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From YouTube: Bisq growth call 2018-10-04
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Bisq Growth Call
A
So
why
is
bisque
decentralize
not
just
for
the
sake
of
it,
but
because
this
allows
bisque
to
be
sensitive
resistant,
because
this
allows
bisque
to
offer
more
privacy
than
any
other
exchange,
and
because
this
allows
bisque
to
give
traders
full
control
of
their
funds.
You
do
not
have
to
lose
control
of
your
funds
to
be
able
to
buy
and
sell.
You
do
not
have
to
send
your
money,
be
a
fiat
currency
or
Bitcoin
to
a
company
or
an
exchange
who's
going
to
hold
it.
A
For
you
to
be
able
to
trade,
you
can
do
so
in
a
decentralized
manner.
So
joining
me
Manfred,
Keira
and
Paul,
and
it's
gonna
be
a
short
call
today,
because
Chris
Christopherson,
it
is
not
here
and
we're
gonna
start
off
by
commenting
a
bit
the
the
numbers.
For
the
past
few
weeks,
I'm
gonna
try
to
share
my
screen.
I
always
mess
this
up.
But
let
me
try
here:
we
go
right.
Yeah,
it's
gone
crazy,
but
you
can
see
you
can
see
my
screen
now
right,
Manfred,
okay,
so
here's
the
growth
call
the
agenda
on
github.
A
This
is
by
the
way.
Github
is
the
place
where
you
can
learn
the
most
of
our
bisque,
because
everything
is
published
there,
although,
if
you
want
more
instant
feedback,
slack
is
a
very
good
channel
to
collaborate
for
biscuit.
So
the
first
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
in
the
past
few
weeks
we've
had
a
lot
of
volume
in
the
Monaro
to
Bitcoin
trade
pair
trading
pair.
As
you
can
see
in
the
past,
24
hours
is
being
almost
160,000
dollars.
It's
been
the
highest
trading
volume
trading
pair
on
bisque.
A
Then
I
want
to
take
a
quick
look,
and
this
is
this
is
all
new
by
the
way,
so
we
had
some
large
volume
back
in
December
to
20
2017,
but
that
was
you
know
all
parts
of
the
bubble,
but
it
seems
that
the
Monaro
community
is
really
coming
to
know
bisque
and
enjoy
the
advantages
of
privacy
that
it
offers.
Obviously,
one
area
is
a
privacy
coin.
A
People
are
very
sensitive
privacy
and
and
after
looking
around
most
people,
when
I
read
it
and
so
on,
have
realized
that
the
only
place
you
can
trade
without
having
to
create
an
account
without
having
to
give
up
your
data
without
having
to
even
in
the
case
of
out
coins,
give
your
name
is
bisque
and
to
do
so
safely.
Obviously,
thanks
to
bisques
a
double
escrow
system
and
small
contract,
on
the
other
hand,
we
have
effort
to
Bitcoin
trading
pair.
As
you
can
see,
there
is
actually
a
bit
in
the
offer
book
right
now.
A
There
are
a
few
offers,
but
still
tiny
volumes,
tiny
volumes
hardly
ever
more
than
a
Bitcoin
a
day
and
in
my
opinion
this
should
change.
Obviously,
there
are
more
options
to
trade
theorem
for
manera
of
a
Bitcoin,
and
especially
if
you
don't
care
about
privacy,
but
if
you
do
care
about
privacy,
bisque
is
a
an
option
to
consider
so
to
all
those
theorem
holders
out
there
give
it
a
try.
You
don't
have
to
open
an
account.
A
B
A
Days
of
the
end
of
last
year's
bubble
in
Bitcoin,
these
volumes
are
measured
in
bit
in
Euros
by
the
way.
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
but
but
the
offer
book
is,
you
can
see
it's
very
healthy,
there's
always
more
than
20
offers
over
there
we've
reached
40
some
days
so
there's
activity
and
obviously,
when
the
market
heats
up
and
there's
more
movement
in
the
price
will
be
even
more
activity.
A
But
it's
consolidated
there's
an
enough
uses
so
that
this
can
grow
organically
and
in
a
very
nice
way,
and
we
don't
have
to-
and
we
don't
have
to
I,
don't
think
this
much.
We
can
do
to
push
it
to
the
next
level.
It's
just
going
to
happen.
Dollars
is
slightly
lower
volume
and
I.
Think
this
thinks
to
improve
there.
It's
still
stable.
You
know
we
have.
A
We
have
Bitcoin
straited
every
day,
multiple
trades
every
day,
plus
a
gnome
healthy
or
for
book
with
more
than
ten
offers,
so
that
you
know
if
you
tried,
there's
something
to
do
always
but
but
I.
Imagine
that
there's
less
volume
than
euros
first,
because
you
know
it
started
later,
but
also
because
the
payment
systems
that
we
use
that
we
allow
our
traders
to
use
on
bisque
less
standardized
for
dollars
than
they
are
for
euros.
So,
in
the
case
of
euros,
I
mean
most
of
the
trades
are
either
save
pod
transactions
or
revolute.
A
That's
it
for
this
tiny
face-to-face,
tiny
other
payment
methods,
tiny
volumes
and
that
for
dollars,
this
more
options.
This
cash
deposits,
there's
Zeller
or
Zell,
there's
there's
many
different
options,
and
it
seems
that
that
creates
a
bit
of
friction,
but
that
should
should
help
in
the
future.
Once
more
people
hear
about
it
and
pounds
are
the
big
surprise.
A
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
this
year
trying
to
kick-start
the
pan
market,
but
there
was
always
tiny
activity,
but,
as
you
can
see,
in
the
last
few
months,
we've
actually
had
a
few
blowout
days
with
you
know:
decent
volumes
trading
pounds,
and
nowadays
we
seem
to
always
have
not
as
much
as
of
the
dollars
of
yours,
but
we
always
seem
to
have
activity
in
the
offer
book.
There's
always
someone
buying
and
selling.
So
those
three
markets
are
more
or
less
mature
for
Fiat
there's
more
we
can
do,
but,
but
they
they're,
healthy
and
growing.
A
There
is
nobody
some
interest,
but
they
really
need
to
push
to
be
useful,
so
the
first
ones,
the
Argentine
peso
or
Argentinian
peso
we've
actually
had
on
the
first
trade
last
month
in
September
and
there's
a
couple
of
offers
live
there
and
the
spread
is
relatively
low.
So
there's
a
few
bisque
traders
trying
to
get
it
started,
but
you
know
they
people
need
to
know
that
this
option
is
available,
so
quick
shout-out
to
them.
Surprisingly,
I
don't
know
who's
doing
this,
but
the
Serbian
dinar
also
has
some
offers
available,
and-
and
that's
quite
interesting.
A
So
if
you're
from
Serbia
give
it
a
try,
it's
probably
one
of
the
few
options
to
buy
and
sell
Bitcoin
in
Serbia
cero
trades
in
the
Vietnamese
dong,
but
there's
being
offers
available
for
weeks.
So
there's
obviously
some
trader
from
Vietnam
who
are
probably
trading
in
other
markets
as
well,
but
they
the
interest
in
kick-starting
bisque
so
and
by
the
way
there
is.
There
are
bounties
to
be
won
for
performing
the
first
trade
in
Vietnamese
dong.
A
So
you
know
go
ahead
and
do
it
and
claim
that
bounty.
We
also
have
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
a
market
starting
in
Thai
bats.
You
know
that
that
beautiful
currency
that
almost
shares
the
currency
symbol
with
Bitcoin
and
there's
actually
been
successful,
successful
trades.
All
quite
recent
I
think
the
first
ones
wearing
August,
but
most
of
them
have
been
in
September
and
there's
offers
available
most
of
the
time
so
go
ahead.
Try
and
finally,
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
we've
seen
the
Chilean
peso
our
postal
offers.
A
A
But
next
week
we'll
be
having
a
call
on
the
Dow
hosted
by
manfred
and
others
are
still
there's
still
a
lot
to
say
about
the
Dow,
because
there's
a
lot
going
to
be
happening
soon,
we
hope
to
have
it
on
test
net.
Well,
we
hope
October.
But
you
know
if
it's
November,
it's
no
big
deal
and
we
hope
to
have
the
down
main
net
in
December
before
the
end
of
the
year.
B
A
Has
a
purpose-
and
it's
not
just
some
wild
speculative
vehicle
but
I'll.
Let
Manfred
tell
you
more
about
the
Dow.
Also
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
us.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
pronounce
this
correctly
safe,
Dan
who's,
the
author
of
the
or
the
Bitcoin
standard
he
was
here
in
Madrid
recently
and
whose
book
I
highly
recommend
Manfred.
You
also
wanted
to
talk
a
bit
about
possible
additions
to
the
to
the
tokens
and
coins
available
on
disk
yeah.
C
We
briefly
started
to
discuss
her
even
what
we
can
do
to
boost
the
markets,
the
limited
liquidity
and
we
had
in
the
past,
or
some
stable
coins,
or
in
listed
in
in
bisque,
but
unfortunately
was
never
traded,
so
they
got
removed
over
time.
But
I
think
it
would
be
probably
a
good
idea
to
add
them
as
well
or
to
check
out
which
stable
coins
are
really
mostly
used
like
tater
and
pictures
who
a
store
or
whatever
and
I
mean
that's,
not
an
endorsement
like
with
any
other
out
coins.
C
A
A
Trying
Fiat
for
Bitcoin
on
bisque,
you
are
trusting
your
bank
and
you're,
giving
your
bank
data.
So
here
we
have
some
of
the
disadvantages
of
trusting
a
third
party,
but
on
the
other
hand,
on
bisque.
We
see
that
when
trading
out
coins
you
give
up
less
privacy
than
otherwise
so
there's
always
risks
and
there's
advantages
and
disadvantages.
Yeah.
C
C
They
are
a
little
bit
mortar,
Bitcoin,
maximalist
type
of
person
and
they
don't
have
a
very
high
opinion
about
stable
points
and
the
basic
concept
of
stable,
going
and
I
think
there
is
a
lot
right.
We
solve
the
criticisms
around
this,
especially
because
most
of
their
concepts
are
not
this
interests
at
all
and
so
on.
But
I
think
there
is
a
valid
point.
Maybe
not
not
call
it
stable
point,
because
what
is
stable
but
call
it
pact.
C
C
You
are
entering
a
hedging
contract
and
you
get
the
predefined
exchange
rate
in
future
and
the
one
who
is
offering
you
the
hedge.
He
will
take
a
fee.
So
you
have
to
pay
for
this
for
this
risk
and
it
depends
on
their
volatility
and
of
the
asset,
but
I
think
that's
a
model
which
exists
since
a
long
time
and
when
you
build
next
currency,
which
is
honest
and
expose
the
costs
to
the
use
of
the
pegged
currency,
are
not
hiding
this
or
externalizing
the
cost.
C
A
No
matter
where
you
never
do,
I'd
really
like
to
have
teller
on
bisque,
because
I've
been
reading
all
this
stuff
about
how
tether
is
manipulated
by
bots
on
on
other
exchanges
and
because
you
can't
do
that
on
bisque.
We
might
actually
see
a
true
price
for
tether.
That
tells
you
you
know
how
much
the
market
discounts
the
solvency
of
its
issue.
So
so
I.
Actually
you
know,
even
if
you
don't
like
stable
coin,
so
pegged
coins
it's
good
to
give
them.
You
know,
expose
them
to
the
free
market.
Yeah.
C
Cannot
be
worse
when
they
are
on
bisca
so
but
I
think
yeah
anyway.
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
nice
small
addition.
I
would
not
expect
too
much
in
short
term,
but
mid
term
I
think
we
could
attract
certain
types
of
users.
What
we
don't
have,
probably
at
the
moment
and
the
other
big
thing
will
be
the
API
developers
are
working.
C
A
A
You
know
last
for
a
long
time,
even
after
you
and
I
are
all
gone
and
doing
other
stuff
and
I
was
surprised,
because
if
we
actually
can
keep
up
volumes
similar
to
the
ones
so
that
we're
having
this
week
and
the
previous
week,
the
bisque
Dao
will
actually
be
able
to
to
pay
developers
ahead
and
survive
and
be
an
actual
sustainable
company.
Or
you
know
the
organization.
A
C
C
That's
a
very
good
development.
That's
thanks
to
their
money.
Our
volume
I
think
the
last
days
when
we,
when
we
have
two
full
months
like
the
last
week,
I
think
we're
reaching
already
nearly
maybe
breakeven
didn't
a
numbers
exactly,
but
we're
getting
very
close
to
two
on
trading
fees.
What
we
are
spending
determines
on
contribution,
requests
and
average
in
the
last
year
was
something
like
forty
three
thousand
or
psq,
which
is
at
moment
equivalent
to
forty
three
thousand
US
dollar
and
I.
A
C
Actually
I
was
never
taking
this
numbers
too
serious,
because
from
my
experience
there
are
so
many
external
factors
which
can
push
up
the
numbers
extremely
like
especially
I
went
up.
It
comprised
was
going
up.
You
get
suddenly
ten
times
more
volume
without
doing
anything
or
changing
anything,
and
now
it
has
shown
that
I
don't
know
how
many
active
traders
are
there
from
whenever
they're
for
sure,
if
you,
but
maybe
there's
just
five
or
ten,
it's
not
it's
not
a
lot.
C
I
mean
when,
when
we
get
five
or
ten
I'd
hear
em
trade,
us
market
makers,
we
have
maybe
the
triple
of
the
volume,
and
it
can
go
very
quickly,
especially
with
network
effects.
You
know
it's,
it
grows
exponentially
and
then
word-of-mouth
is
is
doing.
Its
job
is
on
its
own,
and
so
so
it
can
be
yeah
I
I
try
to
not
look
too
much
at
numbers
the
same
on
Bitcoin,
because
at
the
end,
when
you
believe
in
the
fundamental
spots
are
behind
it
doesn't
matter.
C
A
Of
patience,
I
I
grow
increasingly
impatient
with
our
inability
to
launch
China
or
India
or
Nigeria
we're
gonna.
We
have
to
do
something
about
that.
We
have
to
offer
a
big
bounty
for
whoever
can
kick-start
the
the
Indian
market
or
the
Chinese
market.
This
come
on.
There's
got
to
be
something
we
can
do.
Yeah
I.
C
Mean
there
are
a
few
problems
related,
and
maybe
we
are,
we
are
not
really
ready
from
their
human
resources
side
or
so.
One
thing
is
that
arbitration
system
needs
improvements
to
make
it
more
flexible
and
and
make
it
possible
to
make
it
more
decent
right.
I
just
spoke
before,
with
with
developer,
who
will
work
on
this
and
hopefully
in
the
next
three
to
six
months.
We
we're
getting
there
and
that's
required
when
yeah,
when
you
have
the
Chinese
market
and
they
don't
speak
well,
English
you
need
basically,
Chinese
are
traitors
or
mediators
on.
A
The
on
the
arbitrator
system
Munford
what
would
happen
if
we
made
it
less
flexible
as
in
the
rules,
are
so
strict
that
the
outcome
is
very
predictable
or
even
imagine
so
imagine,
instead
of
the
multi-sig
being
stuck
being
stuck
when
one
trade
goes
to
arbitration.
Imagine
that
if
a
trade
fails,
the
funds
after
a
certain
lockout
time
immediately
so
not
immediately.
A
A
C
C
It
would
go
back
automatically
to
everybody
like
you
were
the
seller
and
you
have
locked
in
one
Bitcoin
and
then
it
fails.
I
said:
basically,
you
have
the
incentive.
When
I
send
you
the
money
you
received
it,
then
you
open
a
dispute
that
you
never
cut
it
and
then
wait
until
you
get
the
Bitcoin
back
and
then
you
have
to
field
enter,
enter
Bitcoin
and
I
have
nothing
but
I
mean
there
are
the
ideas
where
we
want
to
improve.
It
is
to
to
add
a
mediator
level.
The
mediator
doesn't
have
the
third
key.
C
So
is
a
pure
customer
care
agent,
which
makes
the
system
much
more
secure
and
much
more
flexible,
because
one
problem
is
at
the
moment:
an
arbitrator
cannot
go
easily
on
holiday
or
can
delegate
it
because
here's
the
key
and
you
cannot
give
them
you're
a
bit
funky
to
somebody
else
and
with
mediators.
That's
not
the
case,
so
it's
easier
to
delegate
to
run
it
basically
like
a
customer
care
system
and
in
99.9%
or
there
are
no
road
disputes.
There
are
no
arguing,
I,
sent
the
money
and
didn't
receive.
It's
usually
problems.
C
Technical
problems,
usability
problems,
problems
with
banks
and
they
all
can
be
solved
in
consensus,
and
then
the
mediator
can
find
the
solution.
When
both
traders
eye
accepting
the
solution.
Both
traders
are
doing
the
pay
up
transaction
because
both
after
fees,
so
there
is
no
cert
keyholder
needed
and
then
there
are
very
very
few
cases
where
the
real
arbitrator
which
city's
needed
and
then
we
don't
have
the
requirement
that
this
arbitrator
need
to
speak
the
language
of
those
traders.
C
So
when
two
Chinese
are
trading
and
there
is
a
Chinese
mediator
it,
we
don't
need
to
trust
this
mediator.
So
much
there's
still
the
requirement
for
setting
up
at
least
few
pounds,
and
so,
but
it's
much
less
like
required
when
you
hold
the
key
and
could
do
the
payout,
because
the
mediator
cannot
really
steal
something
and
in
the
very
few
cases,
one
in
the
Towser,
probably
where
one
of
the
traders
is
not
agreeing
to
the
outcome
or
one
of
the
traders
is
not
available.
Then
real
meat
arbitrator
need
to
step
in.
C
But
then
it's
okay
to
have
some
translation
services
to
translate
the
dispute
case
and
check
everything
out,
and
that
will
be
a
very
rare
case
isn't
so
that's
our
current
plan
how
to
go
forward
with
arbitration
system
to
make
it
possible
that
we
can
bootstrap
those
markets
and
can
offer
uses
there
to
become
arbitrator
without
exposing
too
much
risk
on
biscuit
sells.
That's.
A
B
Yeah
hi
Manfred
in
high
flix,
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me
on
the
call
today.
I
was
just
one
of
the
contributors
at
the
kickoff
kick-off
September
kickoff
event
that
you
guys
did,
and
that
was
a
lot
of
fun,
so
I'm,
proud
to
say:
I'm
like
a
member
of
the
disc
Dow,
now
I
suppose,
or
a
mistake
holder.
B
The
ten
bsq
tokens
very
proud
of
that,
and
let's
see
yeah
I'm
here,
because
I'm
like
a
big
believer
and
sound
money
and
I,
believe
that
decentralized
exchanges
are
a
key
piece
of
the
puzzle
for
this
for
the
future
that
we're
all
driving
forwards
and
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
this
dowel
will
work.
My
only
other
experience,
reading
or
learning
about
dowse
was
I.
Think
like
the
etherium
Dow
a
couple
years
ago,
they
got
hacked
so
I
think
he
kind
of
gave
dows
a
bad
name.
B
So
I'm
really
hoping
to
see
this
one
succeed
and
I'm
I'm
very
interested
to
see
like
what
the
implications
are
for
the
future
of
work
in
general.
I
mean
I'm
very
hopeful
that
it
will
facilitate
future
bisk
development
in
a
decentralized
way,
but
also
just
in
general.
How
it
will
impact
the
future
of
work
is
something
I'm
really
interested
to
see
yeah
so
I
participated
in
a
kickoff
day,
I'm
running
my
own,
like
full
note
on
a
virtual
private
server,
so
I
have
bisque
running
24/7
now,
which
is
great
and
I
have
successfully
completed.
B
B
B
It
since
it's
instant,
it's
instantaneous
so
as
soon
as
the
Android
app
notification
feature
launched.
That
made
my
life
a
lot
easier,
because
I
didn't
have
to
monitor
bisque
right,
like
it's
a
very
simple
app,
but
just
the
notification
itself
really
I
think
it's
like
it.
I
said
somewhere
was
like
a
ten
or
a
hundred
time.
A
So
much
anybody
by
the
way,
if
you
have
ideas
for
what
we
could
do,
you
know,
github
is
github
or
slack
or
hear
anything
that
you
think
we
should
do
to
try
and
get
more.
So
you
know
we.
When
someone
comes
along
with
your
enthusiasm
and
wanting
to
do
things,
you
know
we
want
to
take
that
energy
and
those
ideas
and
and
try
and
try
we're
willing
to
try.
A
C
B
So
I'm
a
product
manager
I
mean
I'm
in
Venice
I'm
in
Santa,
Monica,
California
and
I
work,
basically
for
a
big
tech
company
as
a
product
manager,
and
so
that's
kind
of
I've
done.
Some
development
I
programmed
C++
for
a
couple
years
kind
of
at
the
beginning
of
my
career
and
then
I
focused
on
business
and
product
management.
Mostly
so
I
did
have
one
piece
of
my
one
piece
of
feedback,
I
suppose
I
have
so
far
for
the
disc
application,
the
desktop
app
mm-hmm.
B
That
was
confusing
for
me
when
I
first
used
it
on
my
very
first
trade,
was
after
I
I
completed
a
buy
transaction.
It
asked
me
to
move
the
funds
to
like
either
the
bisque
wallet
or
to
transfer
to
an
external
wallet
and
I
just
found
that
to
be
a
little
confusing,
because
I
expect
once
the
transaction
is
complete,
that
it's
already
in
my
wallet
of
whatever
app
I'm
using
so
I.
Think
I
was
a
couple
clicks
there
that
might
that
could
be
eliminated.
Potentially
yeah.
C
That,
actually,
we
see
a
background
that
would
be
a
great
feedback
for
I
mean
we
are
at
the
protest
of
a
relaunch
after
a
redesign
after
web
pigeon
after
application,
that's
mainly
a
risk
inning
with
the
new
design,
and
so
so
they're,
not
too
many
changes
like
in
that
area,
but
we
are
want
to
go
forward
for
improving
the
usability
around
that
see
you're,
not
the
first
time.
It's
not
the
first
time
that
I
hear
this.
C
This
criticism
here
so
that
for
sure
a
weak
point
and
yeah
when
you
have
any
idea
how
we
can
improve
usability
in
some
areas.
Please
let
us
know:
okay,
it
was
I
mean
just
we
know
already
a
lot
to
improve.
It
was
just
basically
lack
of
resources
that
we
cannot
implement
everything
and,
at
the
moment,
there's
still
also
one
UI
developer
working
and
this,
but
that
would
be
great
yeah.
B
Yeah
I'll
definitely
do
that.
I
took
a
few
screenshots
for
that
one
in
particular,
so
happy
to
do
that
and
on
other
ideas
that
I
find
yeah
I'm
very
familiar
with,
like
the
software
development
lifecycle
and
the
effort
required
to
make
changes.
So
and
it's
taken
me
a
little
while
like
I
was
it's
been
really
interesting
for
me,
learning
how
discs
and
a
dowel
will
work.
B
It's
taken
me
a
while
to
get
familiar
with
it,
the
github
repository
and
with
all
the
slack
channels
and
kind
of
all
the
processes
and
understanding
the
people
that
are
involved.
But
it's
been.
It's
been
a
really
great
learning
experience
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
just
kind
of
keep
taking
it
slow.
Well,
I
have
my
full-time
job
here
that
I,
you
know,
do
but
still
kind
of
trying
to
contribute
where
I
can
and
learning
more
about
how
it
works.
Yes,
yes,.
C
A
A
B
B
B
A
Oh
here
we
go.
Okay,
do
you
think
shape
shift
decision
to
implement
KY
scenes
being
a
part
of
increased
volume?
No
I,
don't
think
so,
but
it
has
brought
some
publicity,
so
I
think
people
who
had
never
tried
this
before
have
started
to
look
for
alternatives
when
they
saw
the
kid.
Was
he
thing
and
we've
seen
her:
we've
seen
feedback
home,
read
it
on
Twitter
or
so
on,
but
I
think
the
way
the
volume
has
grown.
I
don't
think
he
correlates
to
be
honest
mm.
A
The
Monaro
volume
was
already
coming
when
that
happened,
so
maybe,
when
shape
shift
really
implements
kyc,
we
will
see
more
refugees.
Then
there's
another
question.
Maybe
this
doesn't
appear
to
work
on
tour
anymore:
okay,
yeah!
Well,
there
you
go
another
of
the
uses.
Doug
2a9
from
the
chat
says
that
maybe
okay
anything
else,
you
want
to
say
Paul
or
Manfred,
nope.