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From YouTube: Bisq growth call 2018-07-26
Description
Thanks everyone for joining the call! 👍
Please find the promised links below 👇
Slack Invitation Link
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https://bisq.network/slack-invite ➡️ join the #growth channel
If you’re interested in the upcoming design, join us in the #design channel
Survey Link
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👉 http://survey.io/survey/10363
Proposals and other hot topics
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👉 F2F Trading - https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq-desktop/pull/1607
👉 Future off chain trade protocol - https://github.com/bisq-network/proposals/issues/32
👉 BSQ/DAO oracle - https://github.com/bisq-network/proposals/issues/33
👉 Change fee model to a more simple one? - https://github.com/bisq-network/proposals/issues/31
What is the Bisq DAO?
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👉 https://github.com/bisq-network/docs/blob/master/dao/phase-zero.adoc
👉 Tech Session: An Overview of Bisq - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulmUVh3XjRg
👉 34C3 ChaosWest - Bisq - A decentralized bitcoin exchange - https://youtu.be/Fv-eCchzBZA
For all the questions we weren’t able to answer within the call please join us in Slack. If we’ve missed something please leave a comment below!
A
Hello,
everyone
who
is
watching
hoarding
of
this
week's
growth
call
I'm
Christopher
at
Anita
and
I'm
your
host
today,
as
always,
I
posted
already,
the
Google
hangout
invitation
link
in
the
chat,
so
you
can
join
us
or
meet
here
in
the
Hangout
or
if
you
want
to
watch
the
live
stream
here
on
YouTube
feel
free
to
post
your
comments
and
questions
in
the
live
chat
on
the
Left.
Sorry
about.
A
First
that
we
had
to
skip
last
week's
called
because
I
was
sick,
but
anyways
we
were
thinking,
maybe
have
alternate
calls
growth
calls
and
attack
calls
every
other
week,
so
we
can
maybe
also
cater
more
diverse
topics
to
the
worst
of
the
worst
community.
So
maybe
some
in-depth
text
sessions
and
regular
growth
calls
for
everyone.
So
our
growth
calls
like
the
one
today
are
about
everything
that
helps
growing
the
bisque
Network
bisque.
A
If
you
maybe
don't
know
it
is
the
only
truth,
decentralized
exchange
and
if
you're
interested
in
more
details,
please
have
a
look
at
Chris
presentation
here
in
our
Channel
at
the
Chaos
Computer
Club
conference
today.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
first
results
of
our
new
feedback
form,
which
was
shipped
with
version.
A
0.71.
Also
I'd
like
to
talk
about
everything
else
that
happened
in
the
last
two
weeks.
It
was
kind
of
crazy,
as
the
pistol
approaches
is
nearly
finished.
There's
a
lot
of
news
to
cover
and,
of
course,
I
try
to
answer
all
your
questions.
Unfortunately,
Manfred
and
Chris
can't
be
here
today.
So,
if
I'm
not
able
to
answer
your
questions
today,
we'll
definitely
do
it
in
next
week's
call.
So
without
further
ado,
let's
switch
to
the
slides.
Just
give
me
a
second
I'm,
switching
to
the
slides
every
moment
so.
A
Hey
if
you
already
traded
on
peace,
you
might
have
seen
already
the
congratulations
pop
up
after
your
first
trade,
where
we
asked
you
to
answer
a
short
survey
on
bisque.
So
thanks
for
everyone
who
already
took
the
time
to
answer
it,
it's
really
short
so
I
guess
it
might
take
just
5
minutes,
but
the
feedback
is
really
great.
We've
gotten
so
far
it
were
41
responses.
A
So
let's
get
back
to
the
survey,
the
survey
itself,
if
you
haven't
seen
it
it's
a
mixture
of
multiple
choice,
questions
and
also
freeform
elements
where
you
can
send
us
your
replies
and
I
try
to
compress
your
feedback
into
some
charts
as
good
as
possible.
So
let's
have
a
look
at
the
first
screen,
so
how
did
you
discover
bisque.
A
Actually,
unfortunately,
we
didn't
got
lots
of
responses
in
the
other
section,
so
that
which
is
the
biggest
one.
So
we
have
a
quite
a
diverse
Channel.
How
people
get
to
know.
Bisque
mostly,
is
about
personal
recommendations,
and
we
see
friends.
Colleagues,
we
all
order
the
search
engine
traffic
we
do
get
is
quite
specific,
so
people
rather
search
for
the
bisque
exchange,
download
client,
so
they
do
know
already
was
what
bisque
is
and
and
want
to
download
it.
So
it's
the
information
and
the
discovery
of
bisque
is
mainly
about
personal
recommendations,
which
is
which
is
good.
A
The
next
question
we
asked
was:
how
would
you
feel
if
you
could
no
longer
use
bisque?
The
reason
for
that
is
to
see
if,
if
what
we
provide,
you
is
something
that
you
really
want
to
see,
and
there
was
kind
of
kind
of
surprising
for
me,
so
82%
very
disappointed
normally
in
this
kind
of
service,
if
you
reach
more
than
40%,
it's
a
good
indicator
that
you
already
have
product
market
fit.
So
if
people
get
over
the
hurdle
to
toot
or
frustrate
they're
really
satisfied,
and
then
it's
actually
quite
easy
to
use
this.
A
So
let
me
see
what
my
notes
say
so
yeah
the
next
question
we
were
asking:
what
would
you
like,
Lee
use
as
an
alternative
if
this
were
no
longer
available,
so
there
are
alternatives.
Of
course
there
are
lots
of
centralized
exchanges
and
decentralized
ones,
but
what
we
want
to
provide
with
bisque
is
to
have
a
possibility
to
exchange
in
a
in
a
private
way
in
a
secure
way
and
the
censorship
persistent
way-
and
there
are
not
so
many
options
to
be
honest.
A
People
also,
that's
probably
where
a
couple
of
people
say:
I,
probably
wouldn't
use
any
other
alternative
as
they
besides
face
to
face
trades.
There
is
no
real
alternative
at
the
moment,
but
still
the
responses
were
quite
they're
worse,
so
the
biggest
ones,
of
course,
is
local
Beach
clients,
hotel
hotel
from
the
deck
just
general
other
Texas,
and
lots
of
centralized
exchanges
from
client
base,
bitstamp
and
so
on.
A
That
was
kind
of
surprising
and
not
surprising.
Of
course,
we
to
communicate
that
bisque
is
is
the
way
to
to
trade
in
a
privacy
where
a
way
it's
decentralized,
it's
secure,
but
in
we
really
saw-
and
this
was
kind
of
was
a
free
farm
field
and
and
privacy-
is
this
big
main
topic
for
people
to
use
bisque,
so
security.
Of
course
yeah.
A
That's
also
a
point
and
the
different
centralization
part,
but
mainly
people
who
use
bisque
are
focusing
on
on
the
privacy
point
and
want
don't
want
to
to
any
chaos
ease
and
just
on
bisque.
Nobody
gets
your
data,
your
personal
data,
only
your
trading
peer
might
see,
depending
on
on
the
payment
option.
Of
course,
maybe
CEO
I.
If
you
do
a
super
super
trade
in
Europe,
you
might
see
that
you,
the
name
of
the
person
you
are
trading
with
and
the
ebon,
but
no
one
else
will
see
this
information.
A
So
so
that's
that's
as
private
as
as
could
be,
if
you
want
to
do
feared
to
cryptocurrency
trades.
Of
course,
if
you
do
krypter
krypter
trades
on,
basically
you
don't.
You
just
see
the
address
of
where
to
send
the
crypt
other
cryptocurrencies
to
and
that's
it
then
we
ask
if
you
have
a
recommended
piece
to
others,
and
if
you
say
yes,
how
did
you
recommend
it
to
others?
So
again,
it's
it's.
A
It's
great
to
see
that
so
many
people
are
to
who
trade
on
bisque
also
recommend.
It
continue
to
recommend
it
as
obviously
like
to
use
it
and
they
describe
it
in
general.
They
describe
it
as
a
it's
the
best
way
to
do
really
privacy
over
our
secure
trade.
If
you
want
to
do
field
to
crypto
trades,
then
we
ask
what
type
of
person
to
your
think
would
benefit
most
from
peace,
that
there
was
also
a
reason.
A
A
Yes,
of
course,
it's
never
as
easy
as
to
do
a
trade
on
a
centralized
exchange,
as
you
don't
have
this
immediate
sell
and
buy
feeling
from
from
these
exchanges,
although
if
you,
if
you
calculate
them
by
a
transfer
out
of
your
field
money
and
to
the
exchange
and
then
back
and
then
check
out
the
field
money,
then
the
time
frame
is
exactly
the
same
or
even
even
faster
with
risk.
But
it's
it's
more
easy
to
do.
A
Lots
of
lots
of
trades
very
quickly
on
on
centralized
exchanges,
then
bisque,
and
you
need
bitcoins
at
the
moment
to
do
your
to
trade,
a
bisque,
which
also
is
a
hurdle
for
for
new
new
piece.
Of
course,
people
cypherpunks
people,
who
are
very,
we
want
to
trade
in
private
and
don't
like
to
to
have
have
government's
or
anyone
else
to
track
them
down
and
to
know
everything
about
your
activities.
A
Then
we
have
yeah
for
for
small,
medium
sized
trade.
So
at
the
moment
we
do
have
some
some
limits,
which
also
comes
up
every
now
and
then,
why
would
why
we
have
two
straight
limits?
We
don't
have
trade
limits.
You
can
trade
s
as
much
as
you
want.
The
only
thing
that
we
have
on
bisque
is
we
have
limits
per
trade.
A
We
want
to
prevent
that
this
loss
of
fancies
as
little
as
possible
and
as
and
to
make
it
as
painful
as
possible,
first
cameras
to
to
use
bisque
to
to
whitewash
the
money
yeah.
Of
course,
people
who
want
to
do
international
money
transfer
and
have
limitation
in
the
current
system.
That's
that's
a
big
point,
and
and
of
course
in
countries
where
training
of
cryptocurrencies
is
forbidden
is
also
very
interesting
to
use
bisque.
Of
course,
you
should
always
be
aware
that
you
don't
do
anything
illegal
and
we
can't
protect
anyone.
A
A
They
are.
We
got
lots
of
give
us
again
a
free
form,
a
field
where
you
could
reply,
and
we
got
lots
of
different
replies,
yes,
easier
to
use
it's
a
good
plant.
It
is
quite
difficult
to
use
for
first
time
user
and
we
we
do
have
now
to
design
or
UX
experts
who
are
working
on
the
redesign
of
the
piece
client
which
in
the
first
step,
will
be
mainly
a
new
brand
identity,
which
is
very
which
looks
very
nice
and
which
is
the
starting
point
for
polishing
the
client
to
make
it
easier
to
use
it.
A
The
right
way
so
will
not
cut
corners
on
the
cost
of
losing
privacy
or
security,
but
we
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
to
do
the
right
thing
to
trade
in
the
right
way
on
piscis
liquidity.
Yes,
it's
that's
the
reason
why
we
try
to
do
the
liquidity
weeks
every
now
and
then
on
some
some
markets.
We
do
have
good
liquidity
like
Bitcoin
European
dollar
market,
and
it
come
on
arrow,
for
example,
but
there
are
some
markets,
of
course,
which
could
benefit
more
from
liquidity
in
general.
A
We
try
to
help,
but
it's
a
community
effort.
We
don't
have
payment
accounts
in
every
country
in
every
currency.
So
it's
it
really.
We
need
your
help
to
push
your
local
market,
but,
of
course,
if
you
want
to
push
your
local
market,
we
are
here
to
help
may
be
a
support
for
the
new
payment
methods
or
different
trans
our.
If
you
want
to
do
some
translations
and
we
should
integrate
them
quite
quickly
where
we
do
have
a
group
of
people
who
will
now
already
committed
translated
bisque
into
a
Vietnamese
Thai.
A
Also
a
polished,
Russian
translation
also
added
a
Persian
translation,
so
you
can
expect
in
the
next
release,
which
is
not
souls
so
long
away
to
have
a
couple
of
new
languages
available
and
also
currency
for
sure,
of
course,
let
me
see
what
else
do
we
have
here
yeah?
There
was
also
a
point
to
have
the
security
deposit
separate.
That
goes
a
little
bit
into
the
direction
of
proposal.
A
I
want
to
discuss
afterwards
of
the
bonding
response
yeah
to
have
payment
to
have
multiple
methods
in
an
offer
so
that
you
can
create
an
offer
and
say
it's
ok
to
pay
me
with
zipper
and
money
beam
revolute,
so
you
don't
have
to
create
orders
offers
for
for
every
payment
method.
You
want
your
offering,
but
just
to
have
a
kind
of
a
multi
payment
offer,
which
is
also
nice
idea,
then,
which
one
thing
that
also
comes
up
every
now
and
then
the
possibility
to
communicate
with
a
trading
peer.
A
That's
something
also
that
this
discussion,
oh
I,
am
sorry
that
the
labels
are
cut
off
a
little
bit
OpenOffice
when
being
offline.
So
the
idea
was
that
you
don't
have
need
to
have
the
PC
or
laptop
with
you
all
the
time
to
have
it
open
so
to
have
your
office
open
to
be
taken.
This
goes
a
little
bit
into
the
direction
of
the
bisque
API,
which
is
in
development
and
very
close
to
be
finished
and
also
with
another
request.
A
The
mobile
app,
which
is
also
with
12.9%,
requested
a
lot
there's
something
approaching
and
I
will
talk
about
it.
Just
a
couple
of
slides
later
yeah
and
people
also
ask
to
buy
a
bit
to
come
without
Bitcoin.
That's
with
the
current
of
training
protocol,
it's
kind
of
difficult
but
yeah.
We
we
always
open
for
ideas
how
we
could
implement
it
in
a
good
way.
A
This
is
something
we
don't
have
a
trading
limit
per
se,
but
we
have
two
limits
on
office
and
and
we
do
have
different
training
limits
for
different
payment
methods.
So
if
you,
if
you
have
payment
methods
where
the
chargeback
is
basically
zero
or
is
zero
for
a
crypto
Kripalu,
I
exchanges,
then
a
limit
is
one
Bitcoin.
So
that's
that's.
That's
quite
high
yeah.
So
so
that's
it
for
the
or
survey
as
I
said.
A
If
you
want
to
give
us
feedback,
I
posted
the
link
to
the
community
survey
in
the
description
afterwards,
every
feedback
we
read
through
every
response
and
discussing
on
github.
Of
course,
you
can
also
just
go
directly
to
github,
create
a
a
proposal
or
create
a
github
issue.
If
you
think
there's
some
some
other
problem,
we
are
really
responsive,
also
on
slack
and
happy
to
help
yeah
I
mentioned
in
the
last
two
weeks
that
there
was
kind
of
lots
of
activity
and
there
was
lots
of
activity
as
the
Vista
is
nearly
finished,
not
completely
finished.
A
If
the
trading
fees
go
up
a
lot,
other
demanding
fees
could
go
up
a
lot
to
have
a
kind
of
an
Oracle
to
where
people
can
vote
on
anything
that
is
put
up
there
and
could
reuse
it
on
any
anywhere
else.
I,
of
course,
I
will
I
will
post
all
the
links
to
these
proposals
and
discussions
in
the
description
afterwards
yeah,
and
we
are
also
discussing
if
you
could
simplify
their
fee
model
as
this
is
also
something
that
comes
up
every
now
and
then
how?
How
did
it
is
calculated.
A
So
we
do
have
in
the
abacus
the
formula,
but
it's
true.
It's
it's
kind
of
it's
not
so
super
straightforward
to
understand
how
highly
structured
generally,
it's
the
amount
you
want
to
trade
and-
and
we
wanted
to
penalize
everyone
who
was
trying
to
put
out
offers
well
very
far
away
from
the
current
market
price.
A
So
if
someone
puts
50%
of
market
price,
he
will
pay
a
lot
of
fees
as
we
want
to
have
a
very
liquid
market
with
a
small
spread
low,
a
price
distance,
but
maybe
maybe
it's
maybe
there
was
a
solution
for
something
that
might
not
even
occurred.
So
that's
reason
why
we
won't
we're
discussing
now
the
few
model
as
well.
A
Then
there
was
long
long
time
discussion
how?
What
can
we
do
to
not
be
dependent
on
banks
and
banned
some
pea
providers?
And
of
course
we
were
talking,
then
always
about
face
to
face
trades
and
finally
mind
if
I
took
the
time
on
previous
ideas
and
and
implemented
a
first
iteration.
So
if
you
are
experienced,
for
example,
if
you're
experienced
on
local
bitcoins
on
any
other,
if
face
to
face
trading
portals,
what
is
the
where's
the
possibility
to
do
face
to
face
trade?
A
It
would
be
great
to
get
your
feedback
if
we're
missing
anything
on
our
current
implementation.
I
will
also
post
a
get
up
issue
where
there
are
some
screenshots
and
explanation
how
we
plan
to
do
it,
so
any
feedback
from
from
your
side
would
be
greatly
appreciated
and
I
mentioned
the
mobile
app.
So
that's
great
progress
from
your
team,
together
with
Manfred
on
a
mobile
app,
which,
in
its
first
iteration,
will
notify
you.
A
A
We
do
work
on
the
on
the
design
front
a
lot
now
and
if
you're
interested,
we
have
a
design
channel
on
bisque.
So
on
slack.
So
if
you're
interested
just
join
the
channel-
and
you
will
see
the
that
it-
that
we
make
great
progress
and
to
be
honest,
I
think
what
do
we
have
now?
July
I
think
end
of
August.
We
should
have
complete
redesigned
this
client,
so
I
expect
something
on
that
front
as
well.
So
I
will
now
stop
the
screen.
Sharing.
B
B
A
A
I'm
I'm,
pretty
pretty
excited
also
also
the
redesign
Pedro
is
working
on
on
multiple
fronts
and
also
together
with
Rodrigo
I,
think
we
it
will
we'll
put
a
bisque
in
on
to
a
new
level.
So
that's
really
great
if
there
are
any
other
questions
from
from
from
the
audience,
just
just
put
it
into
the
chat,
and
we
try
to
answer
it.
One
more
thing
is
the
end
of
the
month
is
approaching.
A
B
A
A
Yeah
here
here
we
have
one.
So
it
is
it
small,
as
that,
just
right,
I
want
to
have
two
requests:
20
psq
on
this
address
you
get
these
address
within
the
best
client.
If
you
don't
see
the
arrows
icon
on
it
on
the
upper
right
in
the
client,
just
click
Kumar
or
control-d,
depending
on
the
operating
system,
and
then
you
will
see
the
icon
and
there
you
you
can
access
the
bisque
address.
You
then
just
paste
into
this
commutation
quest,
then
on
details.
Of
course
it
can
be
as
little
as
that.
A
A
What
yeah
just
give
give
as
detailed
feedback,
as
you
think,
makes
sense,
and
at
it
and
then
on
the
first
of
the
month,
the
voting
period
period
start
where
it
goes
for
for
three
days
for
everyone
who
already
contributed
to
the
bisque
Network
can
can
put
their
stake
to
towards
for
it
the
compensation
quest
and
if
150
percent,
of
those
who
voted.
What
for
your
commutation
request,
then
you,
you
receive
the
biscuit
open.
So
it's
it's
really
straightforward!
Sorry
and
I
just
see
that
we
have
questions
from
Marco.
A
Do
you
have
any
plans
on
creating
a
mobile
implementation
of
bisque?
What
would
be
the
biggest
limitation
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning?
We
do
work
on
the
mobile
implementation
or
on
the
mobile
solution.
Let's
say
on
different
fronts,
so
one
to
have
a
full-fledged
abyss,
client
on
on
the
mobile
app
without
having
any
other
backend
technology
is
kind
of
difficult
because
of
also
performance,
reason
and
implementation
reason
what
we
are
started
now.
A
So
there
is
a
bisque
API
and
development
which
can
orchestrate
and
a
headless
piece
client
and
to
do
the
whole
trading
process
on
the
server
side,
and
then
you,
of
course
you
could
communicate
to
this
to
this
bisque
API
and
to
the
complete
trading
experience.
Of
course,
this
is
maybe
a
little
bit
too
much
for
for
some
users
or
for
most
people
most
users
at
the
moment
to
do
so.
A
We
as
a
little
step
to
the
solution
in
in
the
middle
your
hands
started,
implement
implementing
a
mobile
app
for
Android
and
iOS
to
cover
the
notification
part
at
the
moment,
which
means
that
you
don't
need
to
host
anything
on
your
own.
You
just
start
up
your
piece
client.
Then
you
take
your
mobile
app
mobile
device,
install
the
app
pair
your
mobile
device
with
the
base
client.
So
it
will
be
an
exchange
of
some
some
identifiers
for
encryption
purpose,
and
then
you
can
configure
some
notifications.
A
For
example,
if
a
train
is
taken,
if
your
trade
is
taken,
then
you
will
get
a
push
notification
in
your
mobile
device.
So
so
you
can
then
just
rush
back
home
and
and
continuous
continue
to
complete
the
trade
and
also
get
I.
Think
it's
also
price
alerts
you
could
get.
You
could
get
notifications
on
if
certain
offers
in
your
required
currency
and
payment
methods
is
available.
A
So
a
couple
of
things
that
can
be
done
already
with
this
first
iteration,
which
might
also
be
released
already
in
the
forest,
so
so
stay
tuned
tuned
and
to
do
more,
for
example,
to
accept
trades
and
this
kind
of
stuff.
It
might
be,
then,
a
combination
together
with
a
bisque
API,
which
is
also
close
on
completion
and
yeah.
So
just
just
on
the
mobile
to
adjust
to
only
instant
instant,
install
a
mobile
app
and
to
everything
on
the
mobile
client
will
be
quite
difficult
and
might
take
time.
B
In
theory,
you
could
build
third-party
services.
On
top
of
that
right
say
you
have
say
you
can
have
multiple
disk
Mobile's
acting
on
one
server,
so
say
you're
a
company
that
basically
makes
big
simple
for
third-party
users
and
allows
them
to
do
it
through
a
website
right.
You
could,
they
could
do
the
server-side,
but
obviously
you
have
to
trust
them.
So
you
know
it's
you're
giving
up
something
there,
but
if
the
ease-of-use
justifies
it,
if
it's
false
more
amounts,
it
might
be
worth
it
for
many
people,
yeah.
B
Fact
you
could,
you
could
even
do
a
sort
of
scaled-down
version
without
all
the
basic
options
where
you
are
just
you
know
the
provider,
and
you
have
your
orders
already
there
and
people
don't
need
to
see
the
order
book
or
anything
like
that.
They
just
see.
Oh
look,
you
can
buy
here
just
by
clicking
at
this
price
and
then
they
do
the
back.
The
back
end
I
mean
it's
not
the
ideal.
B
A
A
Not
not
taking
care
of
privacy
or
decentralization
yeah.
Let's
see
if
I
have
any
other
notes
on
my
list,
yeah
if
the
unknown
any
other
questions.
That's
that's
all
for
my
side,
thanks
for
watching
thanks
for
joining
Felix
have
a
good
flight
back
home
and
we
see
each
other
again
next,
Thursday
usual
bye.