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From YouTube: 2019.04.25 Growth Call
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A
Yes,
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description
you
can
get
an
idea
of
what
we're
gonna
be
covering
for
this
call.
A
B
A
We
like
to
think
of
bisque
as
the
only
true
decentralized
Bitcoin
exchange
that
takes
privacy,
security
and
resistance
resistance
to
censorship
seriously,
and
for
more
details
on
how
the
software
and
the
Dow
achieved
this.
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can
check
out
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links
in
the
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future.
A
This
call
we'd
like
to
two
main
things:
hi
Pedro
we'd
like
to
cover
two
main
things:
one
market
update
talked
about
liquidity
and
and
how
the
the
the
network
has
been
doing
over
the
past
month.
Very
positive
news
there.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
Christoph
to
talk
more
about
that
in
a
minute
and
as
well
as
an
idea
for
growing
liquidity
further
that
he
we
came
up
with
a
day
or
two
ago
and
then
the
other
item
is
this
not-so-great
item
of
the
scammer
and
chargebacks
that
we've
been
dealing
with.
A
We've
come
up
with
a
couple
of
proposals
to
mitigate
this
and
hopefully
completely
get
rid
of
this
problem
in
the
future.
So
we'll
talk
more
about
those,
as
well
as
some
UI
considerations
that
that
were
that
we're
thinking
through
right
now
so
for
the
market
update
Christoph.
Would
you
like
to
get
into
that
sure.
B
Thanks
yeah
regarding
the
market
we
had
and
we
will
have
a
very
successful
tower
launch
month,
so
we
do
have
already
more
than
5.7
million
US
dollar
in
total
trading
volume,
with
more
than
1,700
trades
and
1,100
Bitcoin,
but
being
traded.
So
last
last
week
I
was
estimating
roughly
between
four
point,
five
to
six
point:
five
million,
so
I
think
we
are
now
close
enough
that
we
can
say
it
will
be
somewhere
between
six
to
six
point
eight.
So
it's
looking
really
good.
B
It's
it's
mainly
driven
by
the
Monaro
market
as
in
the
past,
and
it's
picking
up
over
the
last
days
again
yeah.
The
other
thing.
That's
very
positive
is
that
the
psq
Bitcoin
market
is
also
going
really
well,
as
you
we
have.
We
have
seen
137
trades
in
total,
with
a
trading
volume
of
nine
Bitcoin
and
if
you
just
look
at
the
time
frame
since
the
issuance
or
the
release
of
the
disk
psq
Pitkin
market,
it's
the
third
biggest
markets
already
on
on
the
network,
so
the
first
is
Manero.
B
B
Being
active
there
and
we,
we
started
to
block
certain
countries
and
banks
and,
of
course,
addresses
to
prevent
that
is
spreading,
but
as
we
are
still
seeing
suspiciously
high
prices
in
other
markets
as
well,
we
got
alerted
so
that
there
might
be
still
some
scam
around
who
are
just
switching
to
different
payment
methods.
So
so,
if
you
are
selling
Bitcoin
against
any
feared
payment
methods,
then
at
the
moment
please
don't
release
your
Bitcoin
and
let
it
go
into
arbitration.
The
arbitrator's
will
tolerate
tolerate
this
this
behavior
and
will
verify
the
trade
in
this
dispute.
B
So
this
protocol
be
created-
and
we
saw
in
the
past
when
it
went
to
trade-
went
to
arbitration.
It's
it's
very
easily
solvable
and
detectable,
if
there's
a
scam
at
work-
and
we
just
want
to
see
it's
not
sure
if
F
most
cameras
around
but
before
we
have
released
our
new
security
measure
measures
to
prevent
scam
scam
in
order
to
make
it
as
hot
as
possible.
B
B
Yeah!
That's
it
already
are
regarding
bad
bad
news.
The
good
news
is.
We
are
already
working
on
different
strategies
to
to
fight
this
scamming
behavior
and
there
are
two
or
three
proposals
at
the
moment
discussed.
So
if
you
are
interested
and
maybe
want
to
give
your
opinion
on
that,
join
us
on
slack
and
look
into
the
github
repository,
maybe
I
can
quickly
show
you
I
will
quickly
to
a
screen
share.
B
B
C
B
Okay,
so
that's
the
the
github
proposals,
a
repository
and
in
the
issue
section.
There
are
all
proposals
that
are
open
and
the
interesting
ones
that
are
being
discussed
at
the
moment
is
the
delayed
payout
for
Fiat
rates.
If
the
buyers
account
is
fresh,
so
we
want
to
make
it
hard
for
scammers
who
want
to
just
convert
their
stolen
back
accounts
into
Bitcoin,
so
it's
delayed
so
there's
a
chance
that
it
gets
detected
and
and
we
charge
backed
as
a
make
charged
feedback.
So
so
that's
the
one
thing.
B
B
So
I
don't
want
to
get
into
lots
of
detail
because
we
would
have
lots
of
discussions
here.
So,
if
you
want
to,
if
you're
interested
in
more
details,
just
go
into
this
to
one
of
these
proposals
and
and
as
you
see,
there's
lots
of
this
discussion
going
on
and
the
third
one
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
about
self
certification
of
bank
account.
Details
using
IT
verify
digital
certificates,
which
of
course,
is
kind
of
an
open
discussion
at
the
moment
that
we
would
leverage
digital
certificates
that
might
be
issued
by
governments.
B
C
C
B
If
we
kind
of
it
was
discussed
in
one
of
the
proposals
that
if
we
just
allow
trades
demo,
other
demo
trades
with
0.001
something
Bitcoin,
then
the
mining
fee
and
the
deposit
easily
already
might
be
already
enough
collateral
that
it's
not
misused
by
scammers,
and
it
can
also
be
used
ready
to
to
start
this
verification
process
of
account.
Verification
process
where
the
distributed
certification
proposal
is
based
on.
A
Yeah,
if
I
can
just
jump
in
and
add
that
I
think
the
first
of
all
these
none
of
these
measures
are
going
to
apply
to
all
coin
accounts.
Obviously,
there's
no
chargeback
risk
they're,
also
they're
not
going
to
apply
to
cash
based
payments,
either
so
money
orders
Western
Union
by
Cash
Money
grand
face
to
face
all
these
payment
methods.
A
Don't
have
any
of
these
risks
and
I
think
the
to
speak
to
Felix's
point
I
think
that's
something
that
we're
gonna
have
to
maybe
try
to
emphasize
a
little
bit
more
to
make
sure
that
these
are
that
users
know
that
there
is
a
way
to
trade
on
disk
quickly
without
having
to
deal
with
any
of
these.
These
hurdles,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
wait.
I
think
there's
also
maybe
a
couple
other
payment
methods
that
we
can
add
pretty
quickly
to
to
broaden
the
cash
based
payment
methods
that
we
already
have.
D
E
E
In
the
same
way
that
we
have
out
points
out
when
it
comes
in
out
Kony
instance-
maybe
we
could
start
by
facing
this
in
of
them
using
the
certificates
as
a
kind
of
hardened
bank
accounts.
So
you
can
imagine
you
can
still
have
a
super
and
unsigned
account
and
then
to
more
experienced
users
that
want
to
have
bigger
trades.
You
just
offer
a
second
option
that
is
just
hardened
by
a
certificate.
C
B
Yeah
absolutely
yeah
what
I
wanted
to
say
before
Peter
jumped
in
so,
if
you're,
watching
this
and
you're
aware
of
some
cash
based
payment
methods,
we're
not
supporting
at
the
moment,
please
get
in
contact,
create
a
github
issue.
Either
there
is
there
already
some
payment
methods
issues
there,
so
you
can
take
them
as
a
template.
What
we
need
to
integrate
some
of
this
cash
back
payment
methods
and
we'll
try
to
include
them
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Yes,
we
are
just
to
reiterate
for
folks
who
joined,
maybe
afterward
a
very
important
announcement.
We
made
or
recommendation
we
made
earlier
on.
The
call
was
if
you're
trading,
if
you're
selling
Bitcoin
on
bisque,
please
do
not
release
the
Bitcoin
until
well.
I
guess
basically
make
the
trade
go
to
arbitration,
don't
released
a
Bitcoin
immediately.
The
arbitrator's
will
tolerate
a
little
bit
of
delay
beyond
the
traditional
trade
period
until
we
have
better
measures
in
place
to
prevent
this
from
happening.
I
do
have
a
question,
though
sorry.
B
B
So
there
are
a
couple
of
pull
requests
already
I
in
implementation,
so
Manfred
is
already
quite
far
with
the
delayed
payout,
but
the
reputation
system
I
haven't
seen,
he's
already
started
with
that,
but
we
need
to
also
solve
some
issues
yeah.
Maybe
maybe
we
are
even
able
to
to
release
a
new
version
next
week
already,
so
it.
B
A
A
C
A
C
A
A
I
think
it's
India,
it's
primarily
peer-to-peer
right
now,
but
it
seems
like
the
the
market
is
not
my
impression
at
least,
is
that
the
market
is
not
so
familiar
with
the
privacy
considerations
that
bisque
offers,
and
so
it's
just
hard
to
break
into
the
market.
There's
not
much
of
a
of
a
momentum
in
terms
of
events
and
and
just
avenues
to
reach
people.
At
least
those
are
the
issues
I
found,
but
yeah
it's
great.
If
the
market
can
organically
build
itself
up
or
at
least
get
started,
then
maybe
we
can
try
to
push
it
along.
B
D
Let
me
share
my
screen
yeah,
because
right
now,
people
know
that
bisque
is
a
place
where
they
can
go
to
trade,
but
they
not
always
go
to
bisque
at
the
same
time.
So
there's
some
discrepancies
between
often
makers
in
offer
traders.
So
maybe
we
could
advertise
certain
times
in
the
day
where
there
are
more
trades,
so
people
could
meet
at
the
same
time
and
that
would
improve
the
harmony
between
the
offer
makers
enough
for
trainers.
D
So
if
you
look,
for
example,
at
the
Brazilian
market
decide,
this
is
react
rocky
its
turn
UTC
time,
so
maybe
in
Brazilian
time
it's
a
couple
hours
less,
but
we
can
see
that
from
11:00
p.m.
to
14
p.m.
there's,
almost
no
trades
and
all
of
the
trades
happen
in
this
side
of
the
day.
So
if
you
advertise
that
that's
the
time,
they
should
be
focused
on
more
people
that
usually
thought
that
they
need
to
keep
the
clients
24/7.
Maybe
you'll,
be
able
to
leave
it
just
five
hours
a
day
and
keep
the
office
being
broadcast.
B
D
B
A
A
D
B
Sure
I
think
yeah.
We
can
have
a
look
if
we
are
when
we
take
all
the
data
we
have
from
our
training
statistics.
If
the
pattern
gets
more,
more
concrete
and
more
clearly
yeah
and
sure
we
just
have
to
think
about
how
we
want
to
communicate
that
we
quickly
discussed
it
before
I
call,
we
could
send
out
it
by
Twitter.
Of
course
we
could
post
it
in
the
forum
and
in
some
places
where
people
are
in
the
maybe
even
the
docs
section.
B
If
there's
a
really
clear
pattern
for
traders
to
look
to
look
up
when
it's
the
best
straight
or
you
could
integrate
it
in
our
mobile
client
to
send
out
geofence
push
notifications
or
whether
to
relay
but
yeah,
but
probably
we
try
it
out
small
as
a
trust,
we'll
look
at
a
little
bit
more
data,
so
we
have
a
clear
picture.
That's
great
start!
What
you
did
here
and
yeah.
We
could
try,
sell
out.we
our
Twitter
and
see
if,
if
we
see
an
uplift
in
this
market,
yeah
I
think
it's
worth
was
a
try.
D
B
When
we
had
this
kind
of
liquidity,
events
which
were
organized
by
Felix
or
join
or
trying
to
call
today-
and
it
was
always
a
great
success-
we
made
it
for
one
week-
we
also
had
it
for
headed
for
just
one
day
and
yeah.
It
worked
out
always
pretty
well
and
yeah.
Why
not
doing
it
now
more
structured
for
all
markets
on
a
regular
basis,
just
to
to
focus
its
matchmaking
between
offer
of
buyers
and
sellers
yeah.
A
B
No,
nothing
special,
the
only
thing
I'm
really
looking
forward
to,
because
I
wanted
to
do
it
for
a
long
time,
but
now
it's
this
camera
got
into
it,
because
Pedro
is
on
the
call.
Today,
Pedro
already
started
working
on
new
onboarding
process,
some
screen
design,
which
quite
promising
and
yeah
I
think
at
least
for
me.
It
would
be
the
next
item
on
my
to-do
list
to
tackle
the
user
onboarding
of
new
users
in
abyss,
client,
which
can
be
greatly
improved
and
I,
have
a
feeling
that
it's
also
it
would
also
help
us
boost
liquidity.
E
Just
to
speak
just
to
speak
to
that,
maybe
can
you
speak
just
a
little
bit
on
what
the
main
goal
is
for
the
onboarding?
Is
it?
Is
it
to
understand
how
the
trading
works
to
understand
how
the
wallet
works,
or
you
I,
don't
know
if
you
noticed
on
the
screens,
I
sense
or
I
shared
I
was
also
trying
to
onboard
not
only
for
the
trading
system
but
also
to
to
secure
seeds.
E
B
Me
that's
actually
that
what
what
you
started
to
do
is
for
me,
the
onboarding
and
wanting
to
see
to
have
to
have
to
to
get
to
a
state
in
the
client
where
you
have
everything
configured
kind
of
a
best
practice.
A
configuration
of
the
Europe
is
client
that
you
can
start
trading
immediately,
because
at
the
moment
it
is
it's.
That's
also
a
valid
approach,
how
it
with
now
let
the
user
to
explore
as
much
as
possible
before
doing
too
much
stuff
on
them
on
their
own.
B
But
the
problem
that
we
have,
we
have
been
to
show
lots
of
popups
and
hints
on
the
way
which
my,
which
are
getting
quite
distracted
distracting
over
time.
So
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
reconfigure
the
client
to
set
up
the
account
set
up
a
set
a
password
and
tell
the
explain
more
detail
how
you
can
trade
on
disk
and
how
this
works
and
I.
Think
if
you
do
that,
then
in
a
kind
of
pre-configure.
B
What
I
meant-
or
maybe
there
was
a
misunderstanding
from
my
side-
this
kind
of
onboarding
process
is
not
kind
of
a
tutorial
with
kind
of
screenshots
and
then
you
have
to
go
to
the
client
and
do
this
stuff.
It's
already
configuring
everything
while
doing
this
onboarding.
So
it's
it's,
we
we
would
so.
At
least
that
was
my
point
of
view.
B
We
would
use
already
the
underlying
infrastructure
to
configure
the
client
if
it's,
if
it's
a
problem,
if
the
user
has
to
do
this,
initial
pay
account
configuration
all
in
this
onboarding
and
Tennie
is
the
client
and
he
wants
to
add
a
new
payment
account
and
then
here
he
has
to
look
for
for
it
in
the
in
the
regular
client
yeah.
That's
something
that
we
have
to
think
about,
but
I
think
for
90%
of
the
users.
If
they
start
a
client,
they
might
have
one
or
maybe
two
payment
accounts.
B
They
are
mainly
interested
in
in
one
market
and
if
that's
pretty
configured
or
in
some
some
some
markets
which
they
can
may
be
already
pre-selected
during
some
wedding,
then
they
have
everything
ready,
ready
to
go
and
maybe
not
test.
Maybe
there
is
no
not
even
the
need
that
they
had
new
accounts
later
on
and
yeah,
or
did
I
misunderstood
what
you
wanted
to
do
now.
E
E
We
can
get
a
lot
of
stuff
done,
because
I
think
the
main
problem
about
bisque
is
that
once
you
open
after
the
the
loading
screen
and
you're
all
connected
to
the
network,
you
are
then
presented
with
so
many
options
that
you
don't
really
know
what
to
do
and
like
Bitcoin
is
already
new
for
some
people.
Then
we
have
a
wallet.
You
have
a
an
account.
You
have
accounts
of
fiat
accounts
of
all
kinds,
but
if
we,
if
we
segment
those
very
clearly
one
option
in
one
single
configuration
per
slide,
yeah.
B
E
B
They
are
the
market
with
the
payment
method,
they
just
configured
in
his
own
body
already
pre-selected
and
they
can
just
click
on
on
taking
the
first
offer.
So
that
said,
they
don't
so
yeah,
so
it
so
that
the
taking
of
the
office
comes
this
final
process
of
this
onboarding
and
yeah.
Of
course,
if
there
are
no
offers
and
then
we're,
then
we
have
to
present
them
how
to
create
a
new
offer,
but
for
most
markets
there
should
be
enough
office
available.
E
And
just
another
thing:
just
in
terms
of
the
growth
I,
don't
know,
I've
been
I've
been
doing
a
little
bit
of
an
experiment
with
mostly
family
members,
and
so
what
I've
been
doing
is
just
sending
them
asking
them
to
install
bisque
and
sending
them
to
deposit
through,
like
just
they
just
send
me
the
address
and
then
let
them
let
them
try
it
with
that
deposit.
Hoping
to
at
some
point
get
it
back.
Is
anyone
else
try
to
think
about
a
I?
Don't
know.
E
This
is
very,
it's
very
trust
based,
but
a
way
that
can
be
kind
of
the
first
deposit
can
be
financed
through
a
third
party
or
something
that
allows
people
to
maybe
just
get
their
hands
on
their
first
Bitcoin.
So
they
can
then
not
worry
about
to
posit,
because
the
requirement
of
deposit
obviously
is
a
major
hurdle
for
a
new
user
Bitcoin.
Obviously,
the
people
using
basic
are
already
somewhat
knowledgeable
and
probably
on
Bitcoin,
but
just
thinking
about
the.
E
B
Theft
is
kind
of
lending
markets,
there
was
I,
don't
know
if
it's
still
active
on
the
on
the
basic
forum
are
there
were
people
landing,
giving
way,
also
landing
Bitcoin
for
this
initial
deposit
to
be
expected
paid
back
afterwards?
It
worked.
Sometimes
it
didn't
work.
So
I
have
to
have
a
kind
of
a
professional
like
kind
of
a
landing
market
yeah.
B
E
B
E
B
I
also
also
did
it
personable
with
friends
where
I
just
sent
sent
a
Bitcoin
and
I
guided
them
through
the
client
myself
and
then
just
we.
They
just
send
it
back
yeah,
but
maybe
maybe
we
could
do
something
based
on
this
idea
kind
of
a
referral
system.
We
can
do
real,
a
real
referral
program,
a
warning
user.
Somehow,
because
yeah
we
don't
have
identity,
it
can
be
gamed
quite
easily,
but
maybe
we
can
do.
B
We
can
do
something
with
just
kind
of
a
social
feature
to
the
people
who
refer
other
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
are
aware
of
that,
but
you
can
set
a
referral
referral
code
within
the
client
which
is
then
stored
with
a
trade.
So
what
we
could
do
is
so,
if
you
kind
of
invite
people
to
bisque
and
maybe
even
board
lending
them
some
Bitcoin
and
they
enter
your
referral
code
and
to
some
to
a
trade,
we
could
display
kind
of
a
big
lorry,
ality
batch
or
something
on
the
on
the
avatar
other.
E
B
E
It
came
when
easily
it's
probably
further
better
I
mean,
and
now
that
you're
talking
about
it.
It
just
feels
like
it's
even
way
too
early,
like
there's
other
issues
at
hand
that
it's
even
best,
if,
if
only
more,
it's
users
are
using,
it
and
people
already
understand
understand
what
what's
at
stake.
So
you
don't
get
like
yeah.
D
E
C
B
And
it
could
also
be
with
interest
rate,
so
if
someone
wants
to
do
it
as
a
business,
so
so
not
only
the
deposit
is
paid
back,
but
even
interest
rate
on
on
top
yeah
I,
just
I'm
just
scanning.
Through
your
proposal,
yeah
I
said
with
in
with
the
current
trade
protocol.
I
don't
think
it's
possible
to
implement,
but
with
the
new
trade
protocol
we
could
think
about
adding
this
kind
of
option.
So
so
we
can
build
upon
this
idea
later
on
cool.
A
B
It
we
just
would
need
a
feedback
from
the
green
community.
If
there's,
if
I
think
as
a
father
member
back,
then
there
was
still
a
pull
request
open
but
I
guess
it's
much
already
and
deployed
so
there's.
So
it's
verifiable.
We
are
green
box,
but
yeah
I
think
the
only
thing
that
we
need
to
enable
green
again
is
some
feedback
on
from
the
community.
If
the
transfer
of
money
between
the
two
wallets
works
fine
already
and
if
the
proof
of
transference
transfer
is
also
working,
fine,
then
yeah
we're
happy
to
to
enable
it
again.