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From YouTube: 2018.01.18 growth call
Description
Agenda: BTC-USD liquidity, bounties for as-yet untraded fiat currencies, Bisq in China, recruiting developers to work on Bisq.
Notes: https://goo.gl/jakVqt
GitHub: https://github.com/bisq-network/growth/issues/22
A
Okay,
hello,
everyone
who
is
joining
us
live
today
or
watching
the
recording
of
our
first
growth
meeting
this
year,
I'm
full
of
those
who
don't
know
me:
I'm,
Christoph
and
I'm
running
the
growth
net
growth
meeting
today,
just
a
few
organizational
things.
The
meeting
will
run
for
45
minutes.
So
let's
try
to
keep
focused
first,
also
thanks
to
Chris
Sacca,
who
will
write
down
the
meeting
minutes
after
the
meeting
and
just
the
heads
up.
A
This
call
will
be
recorded
and
we
will
publish
it
on
YouTube
afterwards
in
our
new
YouTube
channel
for
everyone
who
is
joining
us
for
the
first
time.
Our
growth
meetings
are
about
exchanging
learnings
and
on
how
to
grow
the
business
work,
and
we
decided
last
year
in
December
that
we
are
going
to
focus
for
the
next
two
months
on
growing,
especially
liquidity
on
bisque,
as
we
didn't
have
any
experiments
over
the
holidays.
A
B
So,
really
to
get
things
about
it,
you
need
a
collaborator
who's
in
the
country
where
you
want
to
start
because
some
of
the
issues
unless
you're
on
the
ground,
you
will
never
know
that
this
payment
system
doesn't
work
or
nobody
uses
it
or
yeah
the
what
the
app
is
blocked
by
the
firewall
of
China
or
something
like
that.
So,
ideally,
you
need
someone
from
our
country
to
collaborate
to
come
to
slack
or
to
come
to
github
and
to
answer
these
questions
and
ask
for
stuff.
B
What's
the
best
way,
I.
Think
of
maybe
attracting
such
a
person
I
think
the
bounty
for
the
first
trade
is
a
good
idea,
because
if
someone
does
the
first
trade
for
Indian
rupees,
for
example,
gets
rewards
that
would
first
of
all
I'm
involved
in
risk.
If
he
runs
into
trouble
trying
to
do
the
first
trade,
he
would
ask
for
help.
If
he
discovers
that
something
doesn't
work,
he
will
tell
us
about
it:
hi,
Chris
and
and
yeah
there's
some
countries
where
we
have
no
one
at
the
moment.
A
B
Ads
which
allowed
better
targeting
by
profession
and
by
region
by
City,
it
was
completely
useless.
It
was
worth
a
try.
You
know
money,
I
thought
it
was
worth
a
try,
but
a
handful
of
clicks,
thousands
and
thousands
of
impressions,
but
just
a
handful
of
clicks
and
I
doubt
any
of
those
translated
into
any
downloads.
So
no
yeah.
C
A
conversation
with
some
namioka
yeah
yeah
I
had
a
conversation
with
somebody.
I
think
it
at
chaos
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
I
can't
remember
it
was,
but
we're
talking
about
China
and
and
some
experience,
and
you
know
they
were
just
telling
me
about
how
how
vibrant
the
markets
are,
whether
it's
you
know
just
kind
of
like
low-tech
OTC
markets
over
we
chat
or
I
mean,
if
you
probably
know
ten
times
as
much
as
I
do.
This
is
just
second
hands.
C
B
The
key
thing
is
to
have
someone
there,
but
you
can
ask
try
this
try
to
download
the
app
try
to
post
him
order,
try
to
do
first
rate
talk
to
a
friend
and
try
to
get
him
to
do
a
trade
with
you
and
get
it
started,
and
if
they
find
that
the
fees
are
too
high
or
that
they
have
plenty
of
other
options.
Fine,
that's
good
enough,
but
we
didn't
have
that
information.
We're
guessing
at
the
moment.
So.
A
C
C
I
mean
that
would
be
amazing
to
have
you
know,
essentially
the
the
how
to
buy.
You
know
Bitcoin
for
for
you
on,
like
you,
like
you
put
in
there,
and
to
have
that
to
have
that
in
Chinese
and
this
amazing.
Maybe
we
can
get
there
but
I
like
the
idea
in
general,
even
though
it's
coming
in
half
way
to
it,
I
think
I
follow
the
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
about
it
most.
Is
that
I
think
it's
just
sort
of
the
right
style
right?
C
C
B
We
can
just
break
into
one
of
the
telegram
or
WeChat
groups
and
get
you
know,
one
person
to
make
a
bit
of
a
market
and
then
someone
and
then
to
tell
the
other
guys
hey,
come
here
and
try
this
it's
better
than
local
bitcoins.
Because
of
this
all
that,
then
you
know.
Maybe
something
will
happen.
I'm
also
very
surprised
that
nothing's
happening
with
India.
C
Yeah
I've
been
thinking,
seven
had
any
bandwidth
to
do
anything
about
it
about
Africa
and
pacer.
There
was
a
flurry
of
tweets
recently
where
you
know
it's
been
about
a
month
two
months
now
from
I
think
Kenya
coin
I
had
which
I
know
nothing
about,
but
didn't.
Look
this
reputable
when
I,
when
I
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
even
know
if
that's
a
ICO
or
anything
I
think
that's
just
the
name
of
a
Twitter
handle
and
then
I
won't
get
it
his
name
right.
C
Like
over
the
holidays
is
why
I
didn't
track?
It
I
thought
somehow
he
was
mixed
up
in
a
disk
thread
on
Twitter
somewhere
and
then
and
then
there's
a
guy
who's
been
on
the
forum,
s
Gornick,
who
apparently
has
lots
of
hands-on
experience
with
M,
paisa
and
I
asked
him
go
in
some
detail.
I,
don't
remember
the
details,
but
he
did
write
a
couple
of
paragraphs
about
his.
You
know
real
world
experience,
I
think
in
in
country
with
it
and
so
on.
C
So
I
thought
you
know
just
connecting
the
few
of
those
people
and
see
you
know
see
what's
in
their
network
right,
but
that's
got
to
be.
You
know
a
huge
potential
like
the
most
ridiculous
thing
in
the
world
to
say,
of
course,
Africa
is
huge
potential
potential
for
bits
cry.
Just
don't
really
have
any
access
to.
A
C
B
C
B
C
B
It's
not
worth
it
doing
it
a
few
time,
I
think
it's
the
first,
the
first
experiment,
you
know
the
guy
who
who's
first
to
the
Mount
Everest
or
to
the
South
Pole
get
the
next
guy
he's
just
he's.
Following
the
trail
and
and
then
we
have
to
offer
a
reward
for
the
next
thing,
which
might
be
to
make
a
market
for
a
week
or
so
buy
and
sell
or
to
create
offers.
I
know
it's
something
else,
but
something
you
don't
repeat,
because
there's
a
hundred
50
currencies
that
we
could
be
doing
this.
C
B
A
C
A
Yeah
perfect
in
general,
shell,
shall
we
create
for
each
market
and
a
separate
issue
and
let
let
people
who
want
to
participate
or
be
market
maker
to
add
commencer
or
just
to
try
and
different
issues.
So
they
even
maybe
can
coordinate
a
kind
of
liquidity.
Experiment
like
we
did
for
a
euro
Bitcoin
market.
B
No
idea,
my
idea
is
to
start
very
small,
just
creating
one
issue
for
each
of
these
Nigerian
are
Indian
rupees
rubles,
argentine
pesos,
South,
Korean,
Won
and
Philippine
pesos,
so
coupling
Asia
and
Russia,
and
then
a
bit
of
South
America
create
five
or
six
issues
of
those,
and
then
we
can
individually
target
that
issue
to
social
media
or
to
known
contacts
or
whatever
and
we'll
see
from
there.
I
honestly,
don't
know
what,
if
anybody's
paying
attention
yeah.
C
C
Sorry
I
don't
think
the
mutually
exclusive
either
Christoph,
so
so
this
very
targeted
issue
would
be
just
this
bouncy
right
claim
it
50
bsq,
first
trade,
you
win
right
and
and
then
we
could
also
have
some
little
bit
longer
running
kind
of
bootstrap.
You
know
CNY
liquidity
thread
or
whatever
it
is.
We
want
to
give
people
a
place
to
just
kind
of
have
structured.
You
know
conversation
about
it
sure
but
yeah,
maybe
maybe
the
easiest
thing
is
to
just
get
that
issues
that
Felix
is
talking
about
out
there
see
what
kind
of
interest
is.
A
B
In
Africa
we
definitely
need
to
try
Nigeria
and
Kenya.
South
Africa
already
exists,
but
you
know
getting
a
contact.
There
would
be
great
getting
some
South,
Africa
and
slack
telling
us
about.
What's
going
on.
There
would
be
amazing
in
South
America.
We
definitely
need
to
talk
to
Argentina
and
Brazil,
there's
already
being
a
few
trades
with
Brazilian
reais,
but
it's
normally
empty
market
in
Asia.
We
definitely
definitely
need
to
do
China
and
India
to
start
with,
and
then
Philippines
and
Malaysia
are
also
huge
for
metals
market.
A
C
B
C
As
arbitration
right,
so
so
it's
no
problem
right.
It
just
has
to
be
a
caveat
at
the
moment
like.
Actually
it
makes
sense,
probably
for
that
very
first.
You
know
communication
about
those
trades
to
actually
be
in
English
in
in
that
market
right,
because
if
we
give
the
the
sense
that
we
can
speak
Mandarin
right
that
you
know
that
could
be.
That
could
be
real
trouble.
We'd
have
to
run
everything
in
arbitration
through
Google
Translate
and
who
knows
would
work.
C
It
could
be
a
really
bad
experience
so,
but
I
have
a
sense
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
true
at
all.
It's
just
a
gut
feeling
or
assumption
that
anybody
who's
going
to
be
listening
to
very
first
communications,
like
this
from
us
in
China,
is
probably
gonna
speak
English.
These
are
very
early
adopters
or
whatever
right,
I,
don't
know
just
worth
saying.
C
B
A
A
Downloads
again
yeah
the
other
country,
where
we
have
quite
a
lot
of
downloads,
but
no
activity
at
all
is
India
and
Russia.
We
also
have
lots
of
downloads
and
activity
on
the
website,
but
I
also
don't
think
that
I
saw
any
any
Russian
trades
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
yeah
I
quiz.
What
I
wanted
to
ask
you
just
quickly
regarding
the
the
network
issue,
do
we
have
the
feeling
it's
fine
for
this
little
super
little
experiments?
C
This
failed
transaction
broadcast
and
they're
all
under
control
and
there's
no
funds
lost
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
think
it's
ok,
I!
Don't
think
it's
like
imprudent
to
do
this
right
now.
The
only
the
only
real
concern
would
just
be
spikes
in
actual
just
a
normal
arbitration
traffic.
Just
you
know
distracting
from
other
critical
things,
but
I'd
say.
A
C
C
B
Basically
need
someone
to
do
a
minimal
market,
and
that
means
one
by
one
said:
older:
I,
don't
care
how
wide
the
spread
is,
but
to
be
there
for
a
week
so
that
we
can
start
attracting
other
people
and
saying
hey
file
or
you
can
sell
it's
come
it's
the
minimum.
We
need
to
do.
I
mean
we.
Ideally
we
would
do
the
same
thing.
We
did
for
the
Euro,
which
is
four
or
five
traders,
placing
multiple
orders
over
a
period
of
a
week
and.
A
B
A
B
A
C
B
Let's
focus
on
the
payment
method,
which
is
widespread
right,
which
millions
and
millions
of
people
have
so
they
can't
be
chase
QuickPay,
which
you
know
probably
doesn't
have
that
many
uses.
It's
got
to
be
someone
that
something
that
over
50
million
users,
we
are
do
this
for
everything
method.
So,
ideally,
some
kind
of
bank
account
payment
would
work,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
have
chargebacks
or
that
the
chargebacks
can
be
counteracted
with
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
how
we
need
someone
there
to
test
it.
So.
C
C
He
talked
about
having
some
news
bats
week.
That
was
his
plan
haven't
heard
from
yet
it's
not
out
either.
So
he
might
get
some
news
on
that.
I
I'd
really
just
like
to
see
the
data
right.
You
know
what
is
local
bitcoins,
most
popular
payment
method
in
the
states
if
it
is
in
fact
ACH-
and
you
know
in
practice-
they're
not
dealing
with
this
problem.
Are
they
or
we're
gonna
see?
How
are
they
dealing
with
this
problem?
C
C
Yeah
yeah
what
to
do
about
such
that
I
mean
basically,
if
we're,
if
we
can
be
totally
transparent
about
that,
and
let
people
know
look.
This
is
the
risk
profile
right.
We
are
not
going
to
make
you
whole
well
here.
I
mean
risk
for
a
certain
benefit,
I
mean
if
we,
if
we
use
language
like
that,
what
I
do
not
want
to
get
into
is
a
situation
where
we
begin
to
make
people
whole.
For
you
know,
that's
exactly
the
kind
of
centralized
behavior
we
must
avoid.
C
B
C
C
It's
meaningful
right,
you
know
if
we
did
that,
and
you
know
we're
now
voting
every
month,
as
you
may
have
seen
right,
you
know
actually
going
through
these
motions
and
bootstrapping
things
one
by
one
and
it's
you
know,
roll
by
roll
by
roll.
You
know
I'm
playing
18
rolls
right
now,
Manfred
is
playing
about
a
dozen
I
report
on
them
every
month.
It's
a
you
know.
It
absolutely
does
not
work,
you
know.
So
it's
you
so
we
you
know
we
have
to
attract
more
people
and
I'm
thinking
a
lot
about
that.
B
C
Right,
so
so
what
I
recommend
right?
We
just
have
five
minutes
before
this
call
goes
to
by
the
way
what
I
recommend
is
I
write.
The
plan
is,
in
all
caps,
get
more
developers
right.
That's
the
epic
issue
and
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
writing
up
there.
It's
very
blunt,
it's
very
clear
and
there's
a
plan.
You
know
that
fine
is
gonna
evolve,
but
it
includes
it
includes
things
like
actually
beginning
to
market
to
developers
like
very,
very
intentionally
where
we
starts.
You
know
you
may
have
noticed
now.
C
Every
single
conversation
that
I
have
anybody.
Certainly
it's
immediately
publish
to
YouTube
by
the
way
what
I'd
like
to
really
consider
doing
for
these
next
calls
right.
These
next
growth
calls
are
anything
else
we
do
literally.
Let's
just
do
it.
Youtube
live
streams
right.
It's
it's
less
work.
You
know
I'm
having
to
record
this
and
then
upload
it
and
all
this
garbage.
Let's
just
do
live
streams.
Let's
announce
them
say:
hey,
come
come,
hang
out
with
us
right
it's!
Basically,
we
do
a
world
crypto,
Network
style
for
the
bisk
network.
C
You
know,
and
and
and
we
can
just
spin
one
up
any
time-
we
can
get
everybody
permissions
to
do
that
and
stuff
like
that.
So
what
I'm
gonna
start
doing
part
of
that
plan,
this
marketing
isn't
exactly
a
great
word,
but
I
do
think
of
us
developer
marketing,
I'm,
going
to
show
people
everything
we
have
here.
That
makes
it
possible
to
work
with
autonomy
right
that
you
can
actually
come
in
own
stuff.
C
I
do
me
and
Matt
both
do
want
to
bring
on
dedicated
people
that
that
is,
that
is
critically
important
for
the
most
important
things
like
a
dedicated
peer-to-peer
network
developer.
We
cannot
continue
I,
really,
we've
seen
what
happened
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
right.
This
stops
everything
when
we
have
network
issues,
so
we
have
to
bring
on
good,
very,
very
good,
dedicated
people
for
that
and
I
think
that
now
is
actually
time
so
we're
gonna
be
have
some
kind
of
presence.
C
At
fast
and
least
my
chrissteele
is
going
to
be
there
we'll
pass
out
flyers
of
some
kind,
we'll
have
some
sort
of
message:
I'm
actually
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
via
the
graphic
artist
behind
a
parallel
Nikolas
all
of
their
work.
Right
like
that
shirt
that
I'm
wearing
right
now,
I,
you
know
I've
been
talking
to
a
jaraj
there,
who
runs,
who
helps
run
that
whole
show,
and
he
put
me
in
touch
with
Martin-
is
his
name
and
he's
done
all
of
their.
C
You
know:
sort
of
visual
work
from
HTTP
and
from
Carlo
Nikolas
really
hope
he
gets
back
to
me
we'll
see,
but
I
will
start
to
bring
art
into
this
story
right.
It's
not
enough.
It's
not
enough
to
write
things
down.
It's
not
enough
to
have
code
right,
actually
need
to
communicate.
Also,
an
emotional
level
with
the
people
who
you
know
there
are
cypherpunks
being
born
right
now.
It's
like
that
tweet
I
put
out
earlier
I
actually
want
to
specifically
target
this,
because
developers
me
need
them
just.