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A
We
have
these
girls
calls
every
week
at
this
time
to
discuss
how
the
bisque
Network
has
been
doing
to
discuss
any
current
priorities
for
the
project.
I.
Think
for
this
call
it's
probably
going
to
be
pretty
short,
we'll
just
do
the
market
update
and
then
discuss
the
proposal
that
was
recently
made
by
Wiz
who's,
a
guy
in
charge
of
the
Tokyo,
the
Tokyo
Bitcoin
hackers
meetup
on
making
bisque
more
flexible,
especially
for
newcomers.
A
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
daily
volume
is
good
overall
overall
volume
for
the
month
looks
like
it's
gonna
be
good,
so
that's
good
to
see
not
sure.
There's
much
else
to
say
about
volume
looks
like
a
good
month.
So
far
as
far
as
the
other
item,
the
proposal
on
well
that
was
made
in
the
context
of
the
Japanese
Japan
Meetup
proposal
number.
A
Yeah
there's
a
number
of
interesting
ideas.
There
ideas
that
we've
talked
about
I,
think
for
the
most
part
already,
but
never
really
had
a
a
solid
reason
to
seriously
pursue
them.
Japan
might
be
a
an
opportunity
to
take
some
them
seriously.
So
some
of
the
big
ideas
there
were
making
the
escrow
option
on
bisque
optional
right
now.
A
If
you
want
to
make
a
trade
you
have
to
put
in
a
certain
count
of
parties
have
to
put
in
a
certain
amount
of
Bitcoin
the
trader
the
seller
has
to
put
in
all
of
the
Bitcoin
that
they're
selling
and
lock
it
in
and
it
seems
like
Wiz
and
Niccolo
story
era.
The
BTC
pay
server
project
are
looking
for
an
option
where
that's
not
necessary,
where
you
essentially
just
make
lists
your
your
offer
on.
A
Obviously,
this
introduces
possible
conflicts
with
spam
and
and
other
issues.
Social
engineering.
If
there
is
a
way
to
to
chat
with
other
traders
strangers
on
disk,
and
these
issues
are
in
discussion
on
the
on
the
on
the
proposal
but
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
mention
it
here
in
case,
anybody
had
any
any
input,
any
feedback
or
any
thoughts
they
wanted
to
discuss
on
these
on
this
proposal.
So
far,.
A
It's
yeah
I
mean
one
of
the
one
of
the
counter
points
I
was
made
was
that
it
was
essentially
that
bisque
was
kind
of
overkill
for
that
kind
of
a
use
case.
But
then
the
point
was
made
later
on
that
bisque
is
unsensible
in
a
way
that
a
spreadsheet
is
is
not,
and
there
could
be
a
benefit
to
having
such
a
function
on
bisque
if
we
can
sufficiently
handle
the
spam
problem
and
other
issues
with
the
somewhat
freeform
nature
of
this
kind
of
a
function.
A
So
to
me
it
seems
like
an
interesting
use
case.
Definitely
something
that
doesn't
exist
right
now
and
now
that
local
bitcoins
is
gone
and
it
could
be
a
geographical
thing.
Japan
from
everything
I
hear
tends
that
much
much
lower
crime
rates
much
much
safer
in
general,
so
it's
possible
that
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
a
lot
of
the
safety
issues
that
we
would
in
in
other
places.
B
Even
even
if
it's
not
a
good
idea,
it's
worth
a
test
right
on
a
market
that
we
have
nothing
to
lose
I
mean
what's
the
worst
that
can
happen,
that
there's
a
lot
of
spam.
I,
don't
think.
There's
gonna
be
a
little
spam
because
you
still
have
to
pay
minor
fees
and
so
on
so
well
I
mean
no.
No,
actually
you
don't
have
to.
If
there's
no
escrow,
no
multi-sig
there'd
be
no
minor
fees,
so
just
be
a
post.
Yeah
I
mean
that
the
only
real
dangerous
spam
and
maybe
fraud.
B
B
If
it,
if
it
can
be
done,
if
it
can
be
done
for
one
country
or
for
a
few
countries
as
an
experiment,
it's
probably
worth
a
try,
because
you
know
it
worst
case
scenario:
there's
a
bunch
of
span.
We
have
to
remove
it
in
the
next
version,
best-case
scenario:
there's
actual
real
activity
and
it
seems
to
work
and
people
start
using
bit
small
and
says
they
have
to
keep
this
running.
It's
going
to
reinforce
the
network,
there's
going
to
be
more
bisque
servers
up
and
once
they're
on
it.
B
It
might
as
well
use
it
for
larger
trades
with
escrow
right.
So
so
I'm
I
was
very
skeptical
because
I
I
was
the
first
one
to
say:
hey,
you
could
just
use
the
spreadsheet
for
this,
but
I'm
coming
around
to
to
being
a
worthwhile
test.
I
mean
this
might
be.
The
key
for
many
of
those
markets
were,
were
people
not
willing
to
spend
money
on
Bitcoin
fees
and
so
on,
and
if
it
works,
I
mean
the
only
big
drawback
I
see.
B
Is
that
obviously,
is
gonna
take
time
to
code
that,
on
the
other
hand,
we
already
have
I
mean
what
would
you
have
to
remove
in
the
process?
You
don't
have
to
remove,
so
you
don't
have
to
you,
wouldn't
have
to
fund
the
trade.
The
offer.
Sorry,
then,
in
the
in
the
trade
process,
once
you
put
people
in
touch,
they
would
still
have
to
click
on
payment
made
and
payment
receive
right
to
make
sure
that
yeah
I
reaiiy
really
would
need
to
hear
from
a
dev
how
hard
this
is
to
do,
but
I
I'm
thinking.
B
A
I
don't
know:
I
I
think
that
there's
definitely
a
certain
reasonable
regional
element
to
it,
because
the
when
Wiz
was
we
were
talking
to
was
last
week.
He
seemed
to
indicate
that
people
weren't
really
interested
in
electronic
payments
and
that
at
least
in
the
Japan,
the
yen
area,
and
that
the
face-to-face
market
was
what
they
were
more
after,
which
is
not
the
case
in
the
US
and
not
sure
about
Europe,
but
the
manual
I
think
you're
on
you're
on
mute.
If
you
were
trying
to
say
something
earlier.
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
the
concern
in
my
hand,
or
in
my
head
is
that
the
that
this
is
too
successful
when
people
only
use
it
for
that,
and
then
we
have
a
hard
time
monetizing
there
might
you
know
converting
them
into
paying
users,
but
I
think
that's
probably
too
optimist
or
too
too
forward
I
mean
not
a
concern
right
now.
I'd.
B
Worry
about
it,
but
the
model
the
freemium
model
works
for
so
many
other
sectors,
right
you're
for
something
for
free
and
it's
useful
for
people.
Then
you
offer
additional
services
for
payment.
I
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
mean
having
my
worries
spam
if,
in
fact,
I
shouldn't
even
worry
about
spam,
because
that's
not
a
problem,
this
King
has
never
been
the
problem.
Right
now
is
lack
of
adoption.
Right
I
mean
you
see.
Other
markets
have
much
easier
user
onboarding
and
you
have
local
bitcoins
is
in
180
countries.
Something
like
that.
B
Risk
has
510
active
markets
if
we
count
out
coins,
so
anything
it's
worth
trying
once
if
it's
not
a
huge
effort
and
we
can
find
the
dev
willing
to
try
and
I
don't
know
I
I
reckon
we
should
do
more
small
experiments
tweaking
things
in
different
places
where
there's
nothing,
especially
if
they're
being
requested
by
users
right.
So
if
we.
C
Think
that
yeah
I
agree
that
the
only
concern
is
you
span
and
that's
something.
That
is
a
potential
issue,
because
that
will
be
an
issue
and
there
are
a
lot
of
users,
but
not
now.
So
if
that
is
easily
a
configure
are
to
set
know
when
we
are
going
to
have
this
band
and
we
put
a
maker
fee
and
in
any
case,
I
think
that
make
a
fee
which
doesn't
have
a
minimum
is
not
that
minimum
I.
B
Mean
having
a
person
make
it
fee
has
never
been
a
problem
in
any
market
I've
seen
the
problem
is
always
you
know
if
you're
trying
to
do
a
small
amount
to
test
it
for
the
first
time
and
the
minimum
is
0.005
and
that
ends
up
being
40%
or
50%
of
the
amount.
You
want
to
try
so
yeah
that
that
really
turns
people
off.
C
Yeah,
so
a
baby,
a
maker
free
without
the
minimum
could
work
good,
perfectly
work
and
yeah
and
at
the
beginning
they
could
be
strapping
without
maker
fee
and
then
have
a
McCaffrey
without
a
minimum.
I
think
that
it
could
work.
The
the
face
is
always
the
same,
the
same
problem
mr.
to
have
a
developer,
which
is
able
to
coat
this
time.
C
B
You
know
this
can
be.
This
can
be
a
recruitment
opportunity
right
if
the
Japanese
community
guys
are
really
interested.
Maybe
they
have
a
death
who
can
help
out,
and
you
know,
he's
not
gonna
learn
everything
about
bisque
from
the
start,
but
he
can
help
one
of
the
one
of
the
main
devs
to
do
this
quicker
I
know
yeah.
B
I,
wouldn't,
like
I've,
been
thinking
about
how
to
do
the
modular
things
like
different
options
as
on
it's
a
bit
crazy
to
do
that
for
the
protocol
to
have
like
a
million
options,
but
how
about
you
have
different
trade
protocols
and
you
choose
which
one
right.
So
you
have
a
simple
trading
protocol,
a
simple
order
book
protocol,
which
is
just
you
know,
a
simplest
possible
way
of
posting
an
offer,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about.
B
No
escrow,
nothing
and
you
have
the
the
classic
protocol,
which
is
escrow
multisig
arbitrator,
and
then
that
way
we
only
have
a
gap.
I
mean
a
gap,
a
way
to
fit
in
the
the
new
protocol,
with
two
out
of
two
and
arbitration,
maybe
mediation
or
whatever.
So
so
we
would
end
up
having
bisque
with
I,
know
four
or
five
different
protocols
and
people
can
choose
and
on
the
offer
book
it
would
be
say
very
clearly
which
protocol
was
being
using
each.
We
within
a
tooltip
to
explain
for
newbies
hey
this
one
has
no
escrow.
A
Maybe
we
could
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
on
this.
Please
please
share.
I
was
thinking
about
maybe
having
a
quick
discussion
about
how
to
attract
more
more
contributors
and
develop
a
resources.
I've
been
thinking
lately
about
doing
a
video
series
on
YouTube
of
just
bisque
in
general.
What
is
it?
What
does
it
accomplish?
What
makes
it
an
open-source
project?
A
That's
different
from
any
other
open-source
project
as
a
I,
don't
want
to
say,
like
advertisements,
not
the
right,
the
right
term,
but
just
as
a
friendly
introduction
to
people
who
are
who
are
interested
in
the
project
but
and
may
have
the
skill,
but
maybe
not
the
motivation
to
to
really
contribute
to
the
project,
because
I
was
just
thinking,
I,
don't
understand,
like
theoretically,
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
not
have
too
many
developers.
This
is
a
project
that
pays
people
to
that
work
like
we
shouldn't.
Have
this
problem
and
I
think
it's
a
problem.
A
B
The
only
way
I
can
see
immediately
of
trying
to
attract
of
deaths
is
with
bounties
I
mean
the
moment
a
guy.
You
know,
if
you
give
them
something
interesting
to
do
a
challenge
plus
a
reward,
and
then
you
still
have
to
approach
people
who
know
enough
about
this
and
you
know,
go
up
to
them
and
say
please,
please
take
this
bounty.
Do
you
think
they
ask
for
their
opinion?
B
But
if
you,
if
you
can
get
one
of
them
to
take
a
bounty,
they're
gonna
have
bsq
they're
gonna
be
invested
in
the
project
and
they
they
are
gonna
and
they've
made
the
effort
to
learn
how
how
bisque
works
and
you
know,
learn
the
code
and
then
it's
easier
for
them
to
want
to
be
involved
in
another
project.
Yeah.
B
Well,
I
mean
the
first
thing
is
asking
the
devs
hey.
Would
you
be
willing
to
do
this?
For
a
bounty
I
mean
it
always
works
best
when
there's
they
take
the
initiative
right.
So
these
guys
from
Tokyo
took
the
initiative
and
started
asking
us
for
stuff,
and
this
started
the
discussion,
because
there's
a
need,
there's
a
there's,
a
want
for
it
with
the
deadness.
It's
a
bit
more
complicated,
piss
yeah,
taking
bringing
new
devs
in
is
yeah.
You
have
to
catch
her
interest.
First,
I,
don't
know.
C
A
Yeah,
that's
that's
part
of
what
I'm
thinking,
people
and
I.
Think
rightly
so.
Until
now
assume
that
bisque
was
like
fine,
that
it
had
all
the
resources
that
needed
and
every
because
they
saw
I
mean
progress
every
month
and
every
month,
but
that
changed
recently
and
I.
Don't
know
I
mean
people
regard
this
as
a
cool
project,
I
think
in
general,
but
I
don't
know
that
they
know
at
this
point
in
time
what
its
resource
level
is
like.
A
Yeah
I'll
get
in
touch
with
with
with
at
least
with
Wiz,
because
I've
been
in
touch
with
him
a
little
bit
and
just
see
if
he'd
be
willing
to
just
convey
when
he
talks
about
biscuits,
meetup
to
just
say,
you
know,
make
a
quick
announcement
that
bisque
is
looking
for
developers.
Anybody
in
the
crowd
is
interested
or
anybody
knows
anybody.
A
B
A
B
Think
their
commanding
very
high
salaries
now
at
all
these
protein
companies.
So
you
know
someone
who
knows
how
to
code
and
knows
Bitcoin
and
so
on
is
probably
a
very
busy
person
at
the
moment
and
the
incentive
it's
not
just
incentive,
you
need
the
incentive,
but
you
also
need
to
convince
them
that
this
project
is
important.
Why
it's
important?
Why
you
know
the
time
they
invest
here
is
going
to
be
rewarded,
not
just
in
money,
but
also
you
know
many
years
from
now
business.
That's
still
going
to
be
around.
A
B
It'd
be
useful
because
you
know
if
you're
a
dev
in
India
and
you
you
know,
and
all
the
Bitcoin
exchanges
in
India
are
shut
down.
Oh
you
know,
bisque
is
gonna,
be
one
way
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
buy
and
sell
bitcoins
in
India
or
in
China
or
in
Hong
Kong
Hong
Kong
is
probably
a
hot
spot
right
now,
they're
very
worried
about
all
the
new
stuff
happening.
A
B
A
B
I
think
Wiz
was
going
to
join
about
five
minutes.
Okay,
let's
give
him
that's
giving
a
couple
of
minutes
regarding
the
other
stuff
that
he
asked
for
some
of
the
some
of
the
stuff
he
mentioned
like
reducing
the
minimum
security
deposit,
that's
just
a
parameter
that
should
be
very
easy
to
change.
Yeah.
A
B
That
was
used
as
a
set
parameters,
so
you
know
it
just
came
back
to
you
before,
and
the
anti-spam
measures
I
think
that's
just
basically
the
minimum
fee
size
and
the
minimum
escrow
and
so
on,
and
that's
also
parameters.
Those
should
be
relatively
easy
to
change.
If
we
agree
to
change
them
trading
fees,
I,
don't
think
it's
problem,
but
maybe
the
minimum
fee
is
what
needs
to
be
changed
and
that's
also
just
a
parameter.
I
mean
as
of
all
the
stuff
he
asked
for,
and
it
seemed
reasonable.
B
B
For
sure
I
mean,
if
you
learn,
when
you
do
a
trade,
it
tells
you
what
percentage
you're
paying
in
bisque
fees
and
it
tells
you
what
percentage
you're
paying
in
mining
fees
and
with
a
multi-state
transaction.
When
there's
a
bit
of
congestion,
you
know
it
can
easily
go
for
a
small
trade.
It
can
easily
go
to
eight
or
ten
percent,
and
you
know,
if
you
do
a
tiny
trade
on
zero
point:
zero,
zero,
zero
or
one
Bitcoin.
B
It
can
easily
go
to
50
percent
of
the
trade
that
the
mining
fees
I
mean
so
those
those
are
always
going
to
be
too
high
whatever
we
do,
at
least,
if
you
do
an
escrow
as
trade
without
escrow,
you
don't
need
multi-sig
without
multi-sig.
Well,
you
don't
even
need
a
Bitcoin
transaction
right,
so
for
those
like
the
more
I
think
about
it,
I
was
skeptical
at
first,
but
the
most
I
think
the
more
I
think
about
their
scurrilous
transactions
for
tiny
amounts.
B
The
more
I
like
it
because
the
small
trades
were
really
difficult,
very
difficult
because
of
the
economics
because
of
the
minimum
fees
and
the
percentage
that
they
represented
and,
in
fact,
for
small
trades.
The
only
thing
that
might
ever
work
is
just
a
simple
offer:
posting
I'm
thinking.
You
know
five
dollar
trades,
ten
dollar
trades.
Those
are
never
gonna
scale.
B
If
we,
if
we
can
do
that,
I
think
it'd
be
great,
but
yeah
yeah,
the
mining
fees
have
definitely
anti-spam
I
mean
they
won't
be.
If
you
don't
have
to
do
a
Bitcoin
transaction.
But
if
you
the
moment
you
do.
Obviously
this
is
going
to
be
no
spam
there,
because
also
the
security
deposit.
You
get
back
right,
so
you
could
spam
in
fear
with
even
with
a
security
deposit.
But
you
know
you
don't
get
back
the
mining
fees,
so
those
definitely
are
a
cost.
D
D
So,
in
theory,
I
think
only
the
mine
fees
are
enough
to
be
a
spam
prevention.
You
could
just
make
a
transaction
with
the
up
return,
so
you
don't
have
to
spend
any
Bitcoin,
just
the
mining
fees,
and
that
would
be
enough
I
think.
But
the
other
question
is
that,
just
because
it
is
a
small
market,
it
does
necessarily
mean
that
there
won't
be
spam.
I
think
just
a
few
actors
can
create
a
lot
of
spam,
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
that
a
small
market
will
would
be
we'd
be
exempt
from
creating
spam,
so
that
yeah.
A
It's
certainly
true,
I
think
we're
basing
assumptions
more
on
like
what
we've
seen
so
far,
I
think
with
small
markets.
We've
been
okay
in
terms
of
spam,
so
I
mean
it's
something
I
think
that
we
could
probably
just
start
out
with
assuming
hoping
for
the
best,
and
if
we
have
issues
and
we
can
adapt
and
put
in
any
measures,
we
need.
Okay,.
B
A
B
Don't
see
people
like
posting
100
offers
because
which
they
could
do
I
mean
and
they're
not
fulfilling
the
trade,
because
but
they're
the
punishment
is
in
the
reputation
where
I
guess,
but
you
can
just
create
new
users,
so
it
doesn't
really
matter.
You
could
spam
local
bitcoins,
but
we're
not
seeing
it
happen,
but
by.
C
Concerned
events,
but
because,
but
local
because
is
not
decentralized,
so
they
they
don't
have
a
bandwidth
problem.
Today,
I
mean
if
there
is
a
spammer
in
the
music
that
wants
to
spam.
He
he
doesn't
care
about
the
market.
He
will
find
the
hole
and
if
the
hole
is
in
the
Japanese,
Japanese
general,
whatever
he
will
go
there
and
span
the
network,
but
not
because
of
the
Japanese
yen,
just
because
he
was
to
spam
bisque,
he
will
go
them.
I.
Think
that
what
that
was
what
Huey
was
saying.