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From YouTube: The Bitcoin News Show #63 - Decentralized Exchanges
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The Bitcoin News Show for the week of Dec 11th with your host @theonevortex and panelists: @GabrielDVine @carterthomas with special guests @altcoin_io and @bisq_network!
We'll be discussing decentralized exchanges.
Links:
https://www.altcoin.io/
https://bisq.network/
A
Hello
and
welcome
to
another
episode
of
the
Bitcoin
new
show
right
here
on
the
world.
Crypto
Network
thanks,
you
guys
so
much
for
joining
us
again
on
this
Sunday
afternoon,
our
beautiful
ritual
that
we
tried
to
do
every
Sunday
talking
about
Bitcoin.
We
have
a
lot
of
amazing
stuff
to
talk
about
today.
There's
some
amazing
topics.
We
know
we
got
to
see
a
me
to
talk
about.
We
know
that
we,
this
is
the
main
discussion
here.
We
want
to
bring
forth
for
this
episode
of
the
Bitcoin
new
show
is
decentralized
exchanges
and
their
importance.
A
A
A
A
A
Gabriel
sports,
like
passports,
we
love
having
Gabriel
back
again.
We're
gonna,
get
his
opinions,
of
course,
on
the
importance
of
decentralized
exchanges,
but
before
we
go
into
all
of
that
amazing
stuff
and
all
these
crazy
words
like
decentralized
and
censorship
resistance
and
all
that
good
stuff.
Let's
go
ahead
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
CME
I'm
kind
of
curious
I
think
this
is
what's
on
everybody's
mind
right
now.
A
We
have
the
launch
in
a
few
hours
or
may
be
it
launched
already
it's
supposed
to
launch
today,
and
you
know
it's
got
excitement
in
the
air.
We
got
all-time
highs
that
we
experienced
already
today,
so
let's
I
just
want
to
see
from
the
panelists
what
they're
feeling
what
they're
thinking
about
this
so
I
live
in
the
skull
with
Andrew
first
year,
andrew
from
al-qaeda,
I
Oh
like
what
is
your
opinion
on
the
cma
launch
and
also
on
forget
the
other
guys
names
that
are
launching
tomorrow.
So
we
have
another
announcement.
A
C
Love
it
I
think
it's
great
I
think
that
the
I
think
that
a
lot
of
features
traders
are
about
to
get
completely
wrecked,
specifically
because
the
margin
requirements
for
shorting
and
going
along
on
on
any
sort
of
contracts
are
so
ridiculous.
You
know
Forex
or
the
four
hundred
percent
margin
calls
that
a
lot
of
these
guys
are
probably
gonna,
be
taking
so
I
think
it's
really
exciting.
I
think
that
it's,
it's
always
great
I
think
that
the
more
institutions
that
can
get
in
the
closer
we
get
to
the
ETF.
A
Absolutely
couldn't
agree
with
you
more.
You
know,
after
these
future
markets,
it's
going
to
be
the
ETF's
I
tweeted
out
the
other
day.
The
ETFs
are
coming
and
everybody
was
like.
Do
you
have
some
kind
of
secret
information
and
I'm
like
no?
It's
called
what
the
hell
is
happening
in
the
markets.
We
got
three
or
four
futures
markets,
launching
already
that
the
ETFs
is
only
right
around
the
corner
and
when
we
hit
when
January
comes
around
in
2018-
and
we
see
we
look
back
and
we
get
to
see
the
dust
settle
a
little
bit
here.
A
We
can
see
the
20
or
the
2,000
percent
increase
in
Bitcoin
and
going
from
over.
You
know
from
a
few
billions
over
a
half
a
trillion
dollars.
I
think
I.
Think
a
few
people
are
gonna
want
to
get
a
hold.
That
I
think
Wall
Street
might
want
to
make
that
its
new
plaything,
and
we
all
know
what
Wall
Street
does
to
markets.
They
explode
them
into
outer
space.
So
let's
go
next
with
Chris
mr.
Chris
beams
from
bisque.
What
is
your
take
on
this?
We
know
that
you
are
working
on
this
decentralized
exchange.
D
Well,
I
have
to
disclaim
my
relative
ignorance
here
really
because
you
know,
while
we've
built
this
exchange,
we're
not
what
you
would
consider.
You
know
professional
traders
right
or
seasoned
traders,
so
I'm
not
deeply
experienced
with
the
futures
markets
and
so
on.
So
really
like
many
people,
I'm
I'm
eagerly
waiting
and
watching,
and
we
saw
what
happened
with
CBOE
last
week
and
well.
You
know,
that's
certainly
doesn't
seem
to
hurt
the
price.
It's
it's.
You
know.
I
was
laughing
a
moment
ago
in
here
saying
you
guys
are
about
to
get
wrecked.
D
A
I
mean
I
really
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
example
again
of
of
good
money,
pushing
out
bad
money.
We're
gonna
see
what
happens
in
reality.
When
you
put
you
know,
Fiat
up
against
Bitcoin
people
are
gonna,
get
wrecked
when
they're
trying
to
short
break
when
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
a
great
idea.
A
You
don't
want
to
short
this
crazy
mania
that
we
got
going
on
Gabriel
I
know
you
got
a
few
thoughts
at
least
I'm
sure
on
this
and
the
future,
perhaps
of
Bitcoin
on
Wall
Street
and
in
contrast
with
these
decentralized
Changez.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
the
CMA
Gabriel
of
the
launch
and
then
the
I
still
can't
remember
the
name?
Maybe
the
chat
can
help
us
out
with
the
other
company,
that's
launching
futures
on
Monday.
What
are
your
thoughts
Gabriel
on.
E
E
So
I
actually
just
kind
of
pulled
back
a
little
bit
I'm
keeping
my
eye
on
the
chat
here
and
fee
you
people
are
asking
me
out
there
I
know
we
don't
take
things
down
to
kind
of
a
beginner
level
that
often
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
insider
channel
to
an
extent,
but
maybe
some
new
viewers
would
love
to
would
like
to
welcome
you
and
let
you
know
what's
going
on
a
little
bit,
so
the
Chicago
Mercantile
Exchange
is
a
storied
institution.
E
That's
been
a
commodities
trading
center
for
many
decades,
I
believe
they
were
founded
in
the
19th
century
and
what
this
is
is
helping
out
commodity
creators
to
monetize
their
produce.
So
in
the
case
of,
for
example,
cattle
head
you're
a
rancher,
do
you
bring
your
beef
to
Chicago
and
you
want
to
guarantee
when
you
start
breeding
your
foals
in
April,
that
when
you
bring
them
and
slaughter
them
in
six
months
later
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
guaranteed
price?
E
And
so
this
is
where
Andrew
went
wrong
in
assuming
that
futures
are
all
about
speculation
and
gambling.
Actually,
the
speculation
and
gambling
is
on
the
trader
side
they're,
the
ones
who
find
the
prices,
but
really
this
is
a
useful
tool.
It's
a
financial
tool
for
commodities
producer
in
the
marketplace
to
lock
in
prices
at
a
future
date,
and
it
enables
them
to
guarantee
that
they'll
be
able
to
make
payroll
and
to
have
a
profitable
business
while
the
market
finds
the
most
efficient
way
commodities
and
facilitate
their
trade
in
the
market.
E
So
Oh
forty
years
ago
was
the
last
time
I
believe
bomani.
Tea
was
added
to
the
Chicago
Mercantile
Exchange,
and
these
were
the
gold
futures
and
so
bitcoin
is.
It
was
a
very
is
a
very
big
step
for
the
you
know
for
the
futures
exchange
in
Chicago
and
blings.
Among
the
you
know,
technorati
that
Square
cash
was
one
of
the
players
in
the
market
for
futures
so
that
they
could
guarantee
that
when
they
offer
their
sort
of
a
brokerage
now
with,
because
they're
offering
buying
and
selling
Bitcoin
through
their
want
to
lock
in
their
prices.
E
So
there's
a
there's
actually
quite
a
bit,
even
though
exchange
is
not
involved
with
physical
or
so
to
speak.
Blockchain
delivery
of
Bitcoin
and
it's
only
cash
settled.
Nevertheless,
that
has
a
very
direct
I,
think
it's
indirect,
but
really
it's
quite
a
direct
influence
on
the
Bitcoin
markets,
the
spot
markets.
E
E
The
fiat
money
can
be
created
a
thin
air
and
printed
to
create
a
position
on
that
side
and
paper
contracts
for
metal
can
be
created
out
of
thin
air.
On
the
other
side,
paper
used
to
be
papers.
Now,
it's
just
digital.
You
don't
even
have
to
go
to
the
printer
and
print
off
a
certificate.
You
can
make
them
out
of
thin
air.
There's
the
naked
shorting
problem
of
commodities,
futures
markets
and
commodities
markets
by
the
first
digitally
scarce
asset.
So
what
we
have
here
is
in
as
a
market.
E
That's
not
open
24/7,
the
Chicago
Mercantile
Exchange,
which
is
going
to
be
trading
futures
on
a
product
Bitcoin
which
is
traded
24/7
every
single
day
and
so
you're
going
to
have
these
massive
dislocations.
They
have
stops
on
their
markets.
If
you've
got,
you
know
a
pork
belly
in
this
market
locally
quickly,
they
can
do
stops
and
nobody
can
trade.
Those
pork
bellies
until
the
CMA
starts
trading
it
again
with
Bitcoin.
E
You
have
the
situation
where
you
could
conceivably
have
a
short
squeeze
where,
on
all
the
squeezes,
all
the
shorts
get
liquidated,
liquidated
liquidated
and
it
keeps
stopping
up
up
up
up.
Nobody
can
trim
a
tit,
it's
freeze
up
and
stuff,
so
much
margin
they're
requiring
people
to
keep
a
huge
amount
of
cash
on
the
exchange.
In
the
in
case
of
this,
the
problem,
it's
still
not
enough
they're
requiring
only
five
times
as
much
as
your
position,
but
it's
conceivable
that
the
exchange
could
be
caught
out
with
30
X
or
100
X,
or
a
thousand
X.
E
A
It's
gonna
be
interesting
to
see
how
these
these,
these
exchanges
that
only
trade
9:00
to
5:00
right
kind
of
go
up
against
this
24/7
liquid
market.
That
is
global
and
you
know
it's
gonna.
Take
is
early
days
as
we
continue
to
say,
but
it's
gonna
be
a
while
before
every
single
major
country
like
London
and
Japan,
and
everybody
has
multiple
futures,
multiple
ETFs,
so
we
could
have
an
actual
kind
of
more
more
of
a
stable
market.
A
But
of
course,
at
that
point,
Bitcoin
is
probably
gonna
be
around
$100,000
at
going
Marc,
so
that
kind
of
thing
is
coming,
but
until
then
it's
it's
just
all
unprecedented.
We
are
going
to
have
to
see
what's
going
to
happen,
there's
a
lot
of
theories
and
a
lot
of
ideas
and
things
that's
going
out
there,
but
so
far
after
the
CBOE,
everything
is
looking
good
and
we'll
see
what
happens
after
the
seamy
so
very
interesting
times,
guys
thanks
again
so
much
for
joining
us.
A
We
have
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guys
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Pacific,
so
I
think
now
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
right
into
let's
go
with
Chris.
First
I
would
like
to
demo
what
I
want
to
do
here.
A
Guys
is
kind
of
have
Chris
from
from
bisque
go
through
his
product
a
little
bit
just
maybe
a
one-minute
demo
real,
quick
and
then
we're
gonna
have
Andrew
from
alkaline
diet.
Io
go
over
his
product
a
little
bit,
and
what
we're
gonna
do
just
really
quickly
is
demonstrate
the
fact
that
these
decentralized
exchanges
are
kind
of
here
now
and
working
because
a
lot
of
kind
of
people
a
lot
of
people
out
there
are
really
too
sure
about
this
thing.
A
You
know
I,
believe
that
2018
is
going
to
be
the
year
of
the
year
of
the
decentralized
exchange
and
so
I
think
this
stuff
is
important
and
coming
up
so
I
want
people
to
be
aware
that
this
is
happening
now
you
know,
coin
bases
days
are
numbered.
All
these
decentralized
exchanges
days
are
numbered
and
we're
going
to
demonstrate
some
of
that
stuff.
Here
now
and
and
afterwards,
I
have
a
bit
of
a
discussion
about
what
we've
seen
here
so
I'll,
take
it
away
Chris
and
go
ahead
and
introduce
the
product.
Let
us
let
us
hear.
D
Cool
thanks,
I'm,
just
sharing
my
screen
now,
and
so
people
should
be
able
to
see
now
the
the
best
client
writing.
The
first
thing
you
notice
is
it's
a
real
desktop
client,
like
you
know,
you're,
actually,
actually
something
you
download
and
running
your
computer,
novel
and
idea,
right
and
and
I'm
just
going
to
show
a
couple
of
screens
here.
I'm
just
show
what
it
takes
to
place
an
offer
to
buy
a
Bitcoin,
but
the
first
thing
you
see
is
a
kind
of
familiar
looking
offer
book
or
order
book.
D
We
happen
to
be
looking
at
BTC
euro
right.
One
half
of
every
trade
on
bisque
is
Bitcoin,
so
you're,
either
buying
Bitcoin
for
for
a
crypto
currency
or
a
national
currency
or
you're
selling
Bitcoin
for
a
national
currency
or
a
crypto
currency.
And
you
know
that's
just
a
couple
of
you
know
quick
points
about
this
like
why
we
exist
is
fundamentally
to
provide
an
on-ramp
and
an
off-ramp
for
people
from
the
fiat
world
from
the
national
currencies
world
into
crypto
into
Bitcoin,
particularly
right
and
out
when
you
need
to.
We
also
do
crypto
crypto.
D
You
know
trading
because
that's
all
easy.
After
you
have
sort
of
solved,
the
crypto
Fiat
problem,
but
you
know-
and
just
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
is
this
stuff
real.
Well,
you
know,
we've
been
up
and
running.
We
started
the
project
four
years
ago
took
about
two
and
a
half
years
to
build
it.
We've
been
up
and
running,
live
on
Bitcoin
main
net
for
20
months
now,
and
you
know
just
to
give
a
sense
of
the
progress
before
I.
D
Do
this
quick
demo
in
in
April
of
2016,
when
we,
when
we
went,
live
on
Bitcoin
mainland
dollars
worth
of
Bitcoin
trading
right,
so
whatever
the
trading
pairs
were,
if
he
just
calculated
the
US
dollar
value
of
the
Bitcoin,
it
was
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
so
otherwise
known
as
nothing
right
in
April
of
2016
and
and
you
know,
last
month
we
did
something
like
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
Bitcoin
trading.
Well,
two
days
ago
we
did
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
in
one
day
right,
so
you
know
we're
seeing
explosive
growth.
D
We've
doubled
our
volumes
about
every
three
and
a
half
months.
We've
been
on
an
exponential
curve,
and
this
month
we've
seen
just
go
through
the
roof.
We've
already
done
over
two
million
dollars
this
month,
blowing
away
our
previous
records.
You
know,
so
every
exchange
is
experienced
in
this
massive
growth.
D
We're
just
like
that
with
whatever
slice
is
the
pie
we
have,
but
you
know
we're
just
we're
just
keeping
up
with
it
as
it
goes,
it's
pretty
exciting,
but
what
I
wanted
to
do
here
is
just
to
just
quickly
show
you
know:
there's
lots
of
functionality.
Bisque
is
the
complete
wallet
right.
We
could
spend
an
hour
doing
a
demo
but
thought
it
would
be
cool
to
just
take
a
look
and
see
if
I
wanted.
If
I'm
somebody
new
to
Bitcoin
I
want
to
buy
Bitcoin,
you
could
walk
in
here.
D
You
could
see
all
the
existing
offers.
You
can
see
the
terms
you
know
people
can
trade.
You
know
from
from
this
guy's
doing
anywhere
from
0.05,
Bitcoin,
2.1,
Bitcoin
and
so
on.
Maybe
I
like
these
offers.
Maybe
I
want
to
take
this
trade,
but
I
could
also
place
my
own
offer
right
and
the
way
that
that
happens,
and
you
can
see
the
Fiat
integration
right
really
I
want
to
drive
this
point
home.
The
point
of
this,
the
core
of
bisque,
is
all
about
crypto
Fiat
right.
D
There
are
no
crypto
Fiat
decentralized
exchanges
out
there
and
that's
what
needs
to
exist.
So
you
know
you
see
I,
you
know,
I
have
a
safe
of
accounts
here.
I
live
in
Europe
right,
so
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna.
Do
a
trade
I'm
gonna
offer
to
buy
Bitcoin.
Let's
just
say:
let's
actually
like
do
this
live
like
the
thousand
people
who
are
watching
this
just
come.
D
Take
my
trade
right,
especially
anybody
who
already
has
bisque
running,
and
maybe
we
can
flip
back
to
it
and
see
you
know
see
what
happens
when
the
trade
gets
taken
later,
could
do
another
screenshot
afterward,
let's
just
say,
I'm
gonna,
you
know,
I'm
gonna
buy
I
want
to
buy
point
zero,
five
Bitcoin
at
oops,
that's
a
zero
percent.
Let
me
just
do
that
one
more
time
so
create
a
new
offer
to
buy
Bitcoin
0.05
Bitcoin.
Let's
say
distance
from
market
price:
that's
something
special
in
bits.
D
We
allow
people
to
float
their
offers
and
distance
from
the
market
price,
so
you
could
put
in
an
offer
that
says
whatever
the
market
price
of
Bitcoin
is
I
want
my
offer
to
be
1%
above
that
right
or
even
1%
below
that.
If
you
wanted
to
undercut
the
market
and
what's
the
security
deposit
for
my
buyer,
I'm
gonna
make
sure
that
my
buyer
has
to
put
up
at
least
point
zero
zero
one
Bitcoin
right,
okay,
well,
yep
use
my
lower
value
next
step.
Okay,
it
gives
me
some
popups
we'll
just
cruise
past.
D
This
is
the
thing
if
you
want
to
buy
Bitcoin
on
this,
you
actually
have
to
have
a
tiny
bit
a
Bitcoin
first,
because
you
have
to
put
in
a
security
deposit
everything's,
going
to
get
locked
away
in
a
in
a
two
of
three
multi-sig
escrow
on
the
Bitcoin
blockchain,
all
non-custodial
right,
all
fully
decentralized
and
voila
place
my
offer
to
buy
a
Bitcoin
confirm,
and
at
this
point,
as
soon
as
that
publication
happens
right
and
we're
actually
publishing
Bitcoin
transactions
here
right.
This
is
really
an
exchange.
D
That's
built
on
top
of
Bitcoin,
it's
built
of
and
for
by
Bitcoin
right.
So
this
is
a
you
know.
We
think
of
this
is
an
exchange.
That's
built.
The
way
Bitcoin
is
built
right.
It's
a
peer-to-peer
network.
The
way
bitcoin
is
a
peer-to-peer
network,
it's
very
similar
in
many
ways.
We
think
this
is
the
missing
exchange
protocol
in
application
in
the
Bitcoin
ecosystem.
D
And
now,
if
you,
if
you
cruise
through,
if
you're
somebody
coming
in
and
say
you
want
I
want
to
sell,
excuse
me
if
you're
coming
in,
why
say
say:
I
want
to
sell
Bitcoin.
You
would
see
my
offer
right
here.
Right,
so
if
anybody
wants
to
take
that
I'll
see
it
and
I'll,
let
the
guys
know
here
and
we
come
back
and
do
a
screen
share
and
see
what
it
looks
like
that's
about
it.
For
me
very.
A
Cool
Chris
very
cool,
so
you
can
see
right
there
that
you
can
actually
buy
and
sell
Bitcoin
right
there
in
a
very
decentralized
way.
Now,
of
course,
the
volume
and
these
these
these,
these
decentralized
exchanges
is
very
low,
very
low
compared
to
any
normal
exchange.
But
this
is
where
things
are
going
to
turn
around
right.
Volume
was
also
low
for
Bitcoin
at
one
point,
and
now
it's
$20,000
coin,
almost
so.
I
definitely
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
important.
A
We're
going
to
discuss
more
a
little
bit
later,
Chris
about
why
you
think
that
it's
so
important,
because
I
believe
you
said
you
use
the
words
that
this
type
of
fiat
Bitcoin
in
a
decentralized
manner
needs
to
exist.
So
I
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
minute,
but
first,
let's
go
to
Andrew
now
and
check
out
his
decentralized
exchange
located
at
Al,
Queda,
IO
and
I'd
like
to
give
like
him
to
introduce
his
product
and
give
a
little
bit
of
a
description
as
well
as
a
demo.
So
go
ahead.
Andrew.
B
Well,
first
Chris
Congrats
on
all
your
guys's
success
with
the
best
network.
I
think
it's
pretty
much
the
epitome
of
what
a
truly
decentralized
exchange
is
and
I
am
a
huge
fan
of
which
you
guys
have
built
so
congrats
on
that.
So
I
made
a
video
that
I'll
just
play
because
it
has
some
functionality
that
we're
just
about
to
release
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
in
a
second.
B
So
right
now
what
we're
working
on
and
tell
me,
can
you
guys
see
my
screen?
Okay,
yep?
So
this
is
what
we're
working
on
as
our
fully
decentralized
exchange.
We're
gonna
be
launching
this
in
early
2018
and
one
of
the
main
things
that
we're
really
focusing
on
comparative
to
other
decentralized
exchanges
is
really
to
two
core
things.
One
is
instantaneous
transactions
conducted
through
atomic
swaps,
but
also
a
user
experience
that
appeals
to
multiple
type
of
traders,
so,
whether
you're
a
day
trader
or
an
individual,
that's
just
starting
to
get
into
all
coins.
B
A
Is
all
right
have
to
your
Mike
is
getting
a
little
bit
hype.
There's
a
really
high
pitch
frequency
noise.
Coming
from
your
mic,
it's
only
when
you
talk,
so
it
just
maybe
be
aware
of
that.
Maybe
you
can
fix
it
or
adjust
it
or
push
make
sure
your
your
mic
is
plugged
all
the
way
in
or
just
a
little
adjustment.
If
you
could
do
that.
Otherwise,
I
might
try
turning
your
volume
down
a
little
bit,
but
just
be
aware
that
it's
one
interrupt
you
let
you
know
sorry
about
that.
Go
ahead!
A
B
Cool
sorry
about
that,
so
what
you're
seeing
here
this
is
the
product
that
we're
gonna
be
releasing
in
the
upcoming
weeks
and
essentially
the
way
you
can
think
of
this.
Is
it's
really
a
decentralized
version
of
shape
chip,
and
so
we
build
protocols
that
allow
you
to
atomically
swap
any
ERC
20
token
for
even
an
on-air,
C
20
token
we're
gonna
be
adding
order
matching
to
this
right.
Now,
it's
just
peer-to-peer
so,
basically
how
it
works.
Is
you
basically
broadcast
that
you
want
to
atomically
swap
X
Y
Z
token?
B
For
another
token,
and
these
are
the
two
products,
so
this
is
kind
of
live
version
that
were
working
with,
and
then
we
also
have
an
alpha
version
that
people
can
go
and
play
with
today,
and
this
is
all
test
net,
so
you
can
just
topically
swap
just
aetherium
and
Bitcoin,
but
this
is
really
just
a
start
of
what
we're
looking
to
accomplish
and
really
again
what
we.
What
we
view
in
the
market
is
just
when
you're,
when
you're
trading,
you
want
your
trades
to
be
instantaneous,
they
need
to
be
things
need
to.
B
Basically,
when
you
arrive
at
an
exchange,
it
needs
to
be
easily
understandable
in
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
really
powerful
decentralized
exchanges
on
the
market,
but
if
you
look
at
their
daily
trading
volume,
I
think
it's
a
good
indication
that
it,
the
steep
learning
curve,
really
is
what's
holding
it
back,
and
so
what
we
really
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
look
at
centralized
exchange
like
bit
tricks
and
build
a
similar
environment,
but
really
focus
on
the
core
aspects
of
what
decentralization
really
can
offer
to
you,
an
exchange
which
is
improve
security.
B
B
It's
like
every
single
month,
that's
happening
even
the
biggest
centralized
exchanges
in
the
world
have
been
hacked
v
and
X
was
hacked
for
125
thousand
bitcoins,
which
do
the
math
on
that
it's
a
big
loss,
even
you
know,
really
secure
tools
like
shape-shift
has
been
hacked
in
the
past
as
well
for
about
500,
bitcoins
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
going
to
stop
I
think,
as
you
know,
Bitcoin
rides
isn't
value
and
these
central
honey
pits
grow
in
size
and
with
bit
ryx
doing
about
3
billion
and
daily
trading
volume.
B
So
it's
just
really.
You
know
thinking
about
what
kind
of
trader
do
you
really
want
to
appeal
to?
Is
it
someone
who
is
really
interested
in?
You
know
extreme
privacy
and,
if
that's
the
case,
bisque
checks
all
the
boxes
and
takes
it.
Ten
steps
farther
and
the
technology
behind
bisque
is
incredible,
but
if
you're
looking
for
an
experience
that
has
a
user
experience
that
allows
you
to
execute
sure
it's
faster,
it
allows
you
to
fully
be
in
control
of
your
tokens
at
all
times.
D
Well,
thanks
for
all
the
kind
words
from
our
perspective,
it's
very
similar.
Actually,
you
know
all
the
different
decentralized
exchanges
that
are
out
there
that
you
mentioned
even
the
ones
that
you
didn't
read
like
Hodel
Hodel
will
come
online
I
believe
next
month,
right,
January,
18
as
well
is
another.
You
know
peer-to-peer
exchange,
not
fully
decentralized
right,
but
there's
a
spec
from
of
you
know,
peer-to-peer
decentralized,
there's
a
those
you
know.
Various
levels
of
you
know:
security,
privacy,
decentralization
censorship,
resistance
and
so
on,
and
one
thing
is
for
sure.
D
If
I
know
anything
it's
that
we
don't
have
the
answer
and
D
solution
and
B
product.
For
you
know
the
literally
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
that
are
coming
online
every
single
day,
touching
Bitcoin
for
the
first
time,
I'm,
pretty
sure
bisque
is
not
the
global
optimum
for
all
of
those
people
right.
So
it's
going
to
take
all
kinds
of
experimentation.
We
totally
welcome
the
experimentation.
You
know
yeah
good,
say.
B
Though
is
what
you
guys
have
done
at
this?
Is
you
I
view
your
decentralized
exchange
as
if
it
is
basically
decentralized
to
the
point
in
which
the
Bitcoin
is
its
tell
so
I
just
want
to
mention
that,
as
a
as
a
a
notion
of
just
respect
in
terms
of
how
you're
building
it,
because
it
really
is
impressive,
just
how
you've
been
able
to
decentralize
pretty
much
every
aspect
of
the
platform
and
I'm
just
a
family.
So
sorry.
D
D
I
mean
I
can
say
you
know
I
just
say
you
know
kind
of
elevator
pitch
for
bisque
right,
just
us
on
our
own
terms,
not
really
comparing
it
to
anything
else.
Is
you
know
it's
not
a
coincidence
that
the
first
prototype
of
bisque
showed
up
a
couple
of
weeks
or
so
after
mount
GOx
failed
right.
It
was
not
accidental.
You
know,
because
we
suffered
greatly.
That's
right.
We
wanted.
You
know.
D
We
all
knew
it
was
a
bad
idea
and
then
okay,
we'll
have
to
do
something
about
it
right
and
that's
when
Manfred
started,
you
know
cutting
code
on
this
thing
and
and
and
the
idea
behind
bisque
is
what,
if
you,
what,
if
you
took
a
no
compromises,
approach
to
security,
right
ie,
the
safety
of
your
funds,
keeping
true
to
the
bitcoins
ideal.
If
be
your
own
bank
right
trust,
no
one,
you
don't
own
the
keys,
you
don't
own.
D
The
Bitcoin
right
exchange
transactions
should
be
the
same
way,
so
so
security
right
privacy,
every
centralized,
exchanger
most
of
them
are,
you
know,
I've.
You
know,
we
all
know
people
listen
to
this.
You
know
MLK
ytc
or
you
know,
require
people
to
you
know,
give
sensitive
personal
information
we
think
of
the
the
honeypot
with
storing
your
Bitcoin
on
these
exchanges
as
a
kind
of
obvious
problem
these
days.
That's
just
too
great
a
lure
right.
D
You
know
for
people
to
come
in
and
steal
that,
and
people
do
the
beatings
have
and
will
continue
until
people
learn
that
lesson
what's
less
obvious,
is
that
we're
creating
just
as
much
a
honeypot
by
putting
all
of
our
personal
information
on
these
centralized
services?
There's
absolutely
no
value
whatsoever
for
individual
people
trying
to
buy
and
sell
Bitcoin
to
send
their
passport
and
their
electricity
bill
or
whatever
it
is
that
it
takes
to
prove
that
you
are
who
you
are
that
doesn't
give
you
anything
right.
D
So
what
if
we
took
a
no
compromises,
approach
to
privacy,
rights
of
security
and
privacy,
and
if
even
if
we
nail
10
out
of
10
on
security
and
privacy
in
a
decentralized
exchange,
it's
all
for
naught.
It
doesn't
matter
unless
that
exchange
is
properly
resistant
to
censorship.
Right,
if
that,
if
that
exchange
can
be
shut
down
in
any
way,
then
who
cares
right
if
Bitcoin
could
have
been
shut
down,
it
would
have
been
shut
down.
We
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation
right
now.
D
At
the
level
of
you
know,
decision-making
management,
funding,
governance,
all
of
that
stuff
projects
start
out
with
one
or
two
people,
just
like
this
bid
and
then
and
then
they
become
decentralized
over
time.
Anything
that's
properly
decentralized,
like
Bitcoin,
followed
that
same
trajectory
and
that's
where
we
are
now
right
and
I
won't
get
deep
into
this
now.
But
that's
why
we've
created
you
know,
design
and
created
the
bisque
Dao.
D
That's
why
we're
in
the
middle
of
rolling
out
the
bisque
doll
as
a
way
to
decentralize
all
the
human
factors
of
running
such
an
exchange,
so
we're
in
the
middle
of
that
fulfilling.
You
know
that
third
pillar
of
censorship-
resistance,
we're
not
there
yet
right
that
we're
hopefully
on
our
way
and
that's
why
our
big
mission
right
now
to
grow
the
community
of
contributors
which
maybe
we
could
get
into
more
later.
But.
A
Yeah
and
that's
awesome-
I
mean
you
can
see.
This
is
really
interesting,
because
this
is
basically.
This
is
why
it's
important
we
do
not
want
this
continue
to
store
people's
information
in
these
centralized
silos.
You
see
the
centralization
answer
to
the
hacks
that
are
coming
that
are
continuous
on
these
exchanges.
It
said
just
let's
just
kyc
amore,
let's
just
get
more
in
anthem,
under
a
law
man
to
money
laundering,
laws
and
they're,
no
problem
that'll
fix
it
and,
of
course
we
know
that
it
doesn't.
A
C
Putting
you
know,
have
exchange
going
down
I
personally,
at
least
in
the
short
term.
I
think
that
liquidity
is
the
name
in
the
game
and
I
think
that,
while
the
centralization
of
exchanges
is
important,
if
they,
if,
if
there's
no
liquidity,
it
will
not
attract
people
except
for
those
people
that
already
understand
everything
about
the
tech.
They
understand
the
importance
privacy,
which
is
a
pretty
small
population,
even
within
the
crypto
community.
C
These
days-
and
this
is
taking
a
very
broad
look
at
the
millions
and
millions
of
people
that
have
come
in
to
crypto
in
the
last
12
months,
but
I
think
that
you
do
on
some
level
need
to
cater
to
what
people
want
and
also
realize
that
custodial
services.
That
exchanges
provide
right
now
solves
a
huge
problem.
A
lot
of
people
do
not
want
to
be
their
own
bank,
even
if
it
is
what
crypto
promises
people
they
can
have
like.
It's
not
always
what
people
necessarily
want.
C
These
programs,
but
allowing
people
to
layer
that
into
a
product
or
a
service
that
then
can
have
a
marketing
funnel
built
on
top
of
it,
so
that
you
can
get
this
decentralized
functionality,
the
the
trust
lessness,
the
censorship
resistance,
but
also
have
the
services
and
the
support
that
people
may
need
to
be
able
to
actually
use
them
and
then
I
think
I'm.
You
know
on
the
bigger
picture:
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
decentralization
but
I
also
know
that
the
further
it
gets
from
you
know
what
what
the
government
requires.
C
The
faster
its
gonna
get
shut
down.
I
mean
I,
had
lunch
with
the
guy,
who
gave
a
congressional
hearing
for
icos
and
he's
like
we're
trying
to
push
the
limits
as
much
as
you
can,
but
the
further
out
we
go
the
more
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna
just
crush
this,
and
so
it's
it's
a
balance
and
it's
you
know
I
always
have
to
I,
always
like
to
say
you
know
it's
not
really
about
what
I
want
or
what
I
believe
in
it's.
A
Great
it's!
It's
really
true.
Let
me
just
say
something
real,
quick
and
then
we'll
go
to
Andrew
and
then
Gabriel,
basically
yeah
I
mean
right
now
we
do
have
a
bit
of
a
liquidity
issue
with
these
decentralized
exchanges.
A
Obviously
right
it
is
early
days,
but
this
is
why
I'm
pushing
this
now,
because
we
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
signing
up
right
now
at
coinbase
and
and
bitstamp
in
these
exchanges,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
no
it's
gonna
be
years
before
you
see,
centralized
exchanges
have
that
type
of
liquidity
and
stuff,
and
that's
fine,
but
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
make
this
aware
and
remember,
most
people
don't
really
know
what
they
want,
for
example,
until
it's
kind
of
presented
them
until
the
option
is
presented
to
them
and
I
think
that
if
they
had
the
actual
arm,
if
everything
was
as
easy,
if
being
your
own
bank
was
as
easy,
it's
just
running
an
app
I
think
everybody
would
want
to
do
it
because,
but,
as
you
know,
right
at,
but
as
we've
discussed
here
right
now,
I
mean
you
know
this
stuff
is
this:
this
tech
is
bleeding
edge.
A
It's
early
days
and
it's
it's
not
consumer-level
ready,
yeah
at
all
and
but
but
absolutely
great
points,
Carter
and
I'm.
Just
hoping
that
you
know,
videos
like
these
will
inspire
people
to
be
able
to
make
that
a
reality
be
able
to
make
the
liquidity
come
to
these
decentralized
exchanges
and
tell
other
people
about
the
importance
of
of
trying
to
get
rid
of
this
whole
idea
of
kyc
and
AML
in
money
and
really
in
services
in
general.
We
just
don't
need
that
type
of
centralization
or
that
type
of
risk
of
all
that
siloed
information
anymore.
A
It's
just
it's
it's
bad
for
bad
for
everybody,
so
Gabriel,
I'm,
sorry,
Andrew,
I,
think
you
had
a
quick
point,
Andrew
and
then
sorry,
Gabe.
B
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
hop
in,
and
let
me
know
if
I
start
cutting
out
again,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
quiddity
the
way
that
I
really
view
liquidity
is
more
traders,
more
volume,
more
liquidity
and
I
think
with
decentralized
exchanges.
When
you
look
at
say,
ether,
Delta
you'll,
see
about
you,
know
five
million
and
daily
trading
volume.
But
when
you
look
at
fit
tricks,
you
see
about
three
billion
and
what
I
attribute
that
to
is
really
a
knowledge
education
gap.
B
So
if
you
think
of
the
technology
adoption
curve,
I
think
what
we're
starting
to
move
in
towards
is
you
have
the
innovators
early
adopters
and
the
mass
majority
and
I
think
everyone
who
is
in
support
of
decentralization
or
is
in
support
of
decentralize
exchanges
really
needs
to
help.
Just
the
entire
community
educate
the
market
on
the
benefits
where
there's
no
server,
downtime
or
hacks
you're
fully
in
control
of
your
tokens.
B
I
think
that's,
what's
really
going
to
start
moving
more
volume
away
from
bit
tricks
or
colonia
and
extra
whomever
over
to
a
decentralized
exchange.
And
what
really
furthers
that
point,
in
my
mind,
was
when
plane,
X
was
having
issues
and
I
believe
around
August.
We
saw
a
massive
shift
from
people
using
Colonia
necks,
moving
over
to
tricks
and
in
my
mind,
these
are
kind
of
like
the
only
two
shops
in
town
they're.
The
only
place
that
has
the
amount
of.
E
Token,
ok,
ok,
hold
on
a
second
hold
on
a
second
I,
really
want
to
jump
in
here
and
say
a
few
things
before
we
go
down
this
road.
Any
further
I'd
like
to
address
some
of
the
things
that
have
already
come
up
before
we
expand
the
conversation
even
further.
Let's,
let's
focus
in
here
I'm
gonna
go!
Thank
you
very
much.
E
I'm
gonna
go
if
you
yeah,
I'm
gonna
go
backward
from
where
we
are
now
in
time
and
address
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
said,
because
I
think
that
the
audience
might
get
misled,
probably
unintentionally,
because
just
we
have
limited
time
here
and
you
say
something
and
the
things
can
be
interpreted
in
multiple
ways.
So
I
think
that
was
touching
on
some
interesting
points
and
I
think
that
you
expressed
them
poorly.
My
friend,
we
have
to
be
really
careful
when
we
talk
about
things
like
this,
that
we
don't
confuse
our
audience.
E
E
That
is
quite
the
opposite
philosophy
of
Bitcoin
bitcoins
philosophy
is
we
are
going
to
create
this
thing
that
cannot
be
stopped.
We're
gonna
create
free
open-source
software.
That
is
so
decentralized.
There's
no
head
to
cut
off
on
the
snake
and
it
is
immortal,
that's
the
goal
of
Bitcoin,
and
so
a
project
like
bisque,
which
Andrew
rightly
pointed
out,
is
decentralized
in
the
same
manner
as
Big
Horn,
where
there
is
peer-to-peer
client-side
software,
that's
nonesense,
herbal.
What
you
have
is
a
situation
where
they
cannot
crush
us.
E
That's
a
quite
a
different
thing
now
and
but
but
on
the
other
side
of
the
coin,
which
is
a
perfectly
valid
point.
Centralized
services
custodial
services,
private,
you
know
centralized.
You
know,
companies
that
are
a
for-profit,
absolutely
have
a
place
in
the
ecosystem
and
I
completely
agree
with
that.
I
also
agree
that
there's
a
big
spectrum
right
so
there's
completely
hardcore
decentralized
chainsaw
machine
gun
get
out
of
my
get
off
my
lawn
Bitcoin
and
then
there's
all
the
way.
E
On
the
other
side,
which
is
hi,
we're
issuing
a
debt
token,
you
know
and
we
might
be
going
a
foul
with
our
company
with
six
people
in
Baltimore.
You
know
we
might
be,
we
might
be
going
to
foul
the
SEC.
That's
you
know,
barely
decentralized
right
and
then
there's
everything
in
between.
So
that's
the
point
that
Andrew
was
making
before
to
that
I'd
like
to
also
agree
with
bisque,
is
extremely
decentralized.
Really,
no
one
can
stop
you
from
trading
Bitcoin
and
and
all
coins
for
fiat
on
biscuits.
It's
it
would
be.
E
It
would
be
nearly
impossible
to
stop
you
to
do
that,
whereas
I'll
coin
dot
IO
might
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
you
know
nudge
or
do
or
do
things
to,
because
it's
not
quite
as
hardcore.
You
know
it's
built
on
the
web
right.
It's
built,
it's
built
in
a
browser.
It's
dependent
on
several
other
technologies.
Besides
Bitcoin,
like
bisque,
is
only
dependent
on
Bitcoin
and
like
distributed
hash
tables,
which
are
like
a
highly.
You
know,
vetted
very
stable
technology,
but
you
know
something
like
alcoa
IO.
Actually
Andrew.
Can
you
hear
me.
A
E
Okay,
could
all
hear
you,
okay,
go
because
I
was
gonna,
ask
you
and
your
question
here
and
I
notice.
He
took
a
zero,
so
I'm,
looking
at
the
chart
for
Alcona
IO
and
seeing
you
know
you
guys,
are
using
react,
you're
dependent
on
her
on
a
JavaScript
database,
which
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
people
use
react
and
it's
very
very
widespread,
but
you
know
there
could
be
issues
with
it
and
you
know:
IP
FS
is
the
very
cutting
edge
technology
you're
dependent
on
it,
Rayden
very
brand-new
technology.
E
You
know
as
new
as
lightning
Network,
basically
you're
dependent
on
that.
So
you
know
bisque
is
much
more
purist,
but
of
course
it's
not
going
to
have
the
agility
of
a
platform
with
so
many
pre-built
components
where
you'll
be
able
to
add
features
very
quickly,
whereas
bisque
might
have
to
take
more
time
because
they're
so
decentralized,
so
I
totally
agree
with
both
Andrew
and
Carter
that
there's
room
in
the
ecosystem
for
a
big
spectrum
of
different
types
of
products
and
services.
E
One
thing
that
Carter
touched
upon
that
I'd,
like
to
kind
of
clarify,
is
that
bisques
structured
absolutely
allows
for
you
know:
atomic
swap
instant
atomic
swaps
to
be
built,
lightening
integration,
and
this
is
for
Andrew
to
you
know.
You
know
an
order
book
functionality.
These
can
all
be
created
in
the
decentralized
fashion
and,
most
importantly,
something
Carter
brought
up.
Is
the
marketing
side.
Bisque
actually
has
and
I
interviewed
a
man
for
car.
So
you
guys
after
this
video,
go
and
check
out
my
interview
with
him
from
earlier
this
year.
E
He
was
the
other
co-founder
of
bisque,
previously
known
as
bit
square.
Those
guys
are
launching
a
Dao
they're
going
to
launch
a
token,
and
this
the
token
is
done
in
a
totally
decentralized
way
once
you
know
once
it
launches,
and
that
will
be
funding,
not
only
development
but
also
marketing
and
social
media
and
all
sorts
of
other
stuff.
So
there
are
ways
to
do
this.
E
It
is
slower,
but
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
those
things
are
possible
and
then
lastly,
I
wanted
to
ask
Andrew
what
the
what
that
logo
under
reactives,
because
there's
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
there.
So
the
IP
FS
is
the
network
storage.
Then
there's
a
your
order.
Matching
Network
and
on
top
is
react
for
the
front
end.
What's
the
thing
that
connects
with
the
raid
in
which
is
the
etherium
instant
transaction
Network
and
serves
of
aetherium,
so
you
guys
are
using
aetherium
I.
Think
that's
really
risky.
E
B
J
s
is
basically
a
JavaScript
library
that
allows
us
to
connect
with
a
smart
contract,
so
that
is
a
service
developed
by
the
etherium
foundation
and
we're
also
gonna
be
updating
this
model
as
well,
because
one
thing
that
we've
been
doing
that
really
kind
of
separates
us
from
other
exchanges
coming
out.
I
guess,
you
could
say,
is
wait.
B
B
B
E
B
Basically,
a
library
for
interfacing
with
smart
contracts,
we're
really
excited
about
it,
because
obviously,
smart
contracts
are
a
big
component
of
just
aetherium
and
it
was
developed
by
an
individual
named
Fabian
who
works
at
the
etherion
foundation.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that
technology
coming
out,
but
just
to
put
it
in
symbol,
one
sentence:
it's
the
library
that
just
interfaces
with
the
smart
contracts
that
we
stand.
A
She
have
something
xx,
mute
or,
but
but
that,
but
the
headphones
of
course
was
causing
the
high
page
so
we'll
see
what
we
can
do,
but
and
yeah
I
think
this
is
really
great
to
have
both
disc
and
all
coin
dot
IO
on,
because
there
really
are
two
ends
of
this
spectrum
as
Gabriel
was
describing.
We
have
one,
that's
just
completely
hardcore
decentralize
not
dependent
on
anything,
and
then
we
have
this
amazing
user
experience.
That's
in
the
web
browser
that
it's
just
like
the
bleeding
edge
latest
and
the
greatest
stuff
be
able
to
trade.
A
The
latest
tokens
with
this
pretty
user
interface,
so
I
think
you
know
that's
really
cool
that
we
have
these.
These
different
ideas
and
I'm
really
glad
that
they're
they're
they're
both
can
be
on
today
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
of
these
types
of
decentralized
exchanges
with
everything
in
between
and
so
I
think.
This
is
just
the
beginning,
I'd
like
to
get
Carter's
comments
on
here.
Now
it's
been
a
minute
since
we've
heard
from
him
Carter.
Let
me
ask
you
what
do
you?
C
Mean
yeah
I,
I
love.
It
I
think
that
the
centralized
exchanges
I
think
it.
It
falls
exactly
into
the
future
of
what
not
only
cryptocurrency,
but
but
what
bitcoin
is
built
on,
or
censorship,
resistance
of
everything
and
I
the
way
I
always
look
at
these
kind
of
situations
is:
how
do
we
get
there?
What's
there?
What's
the
real,
when
you
go
and
ask
the
market
the
more
the
masses
of
people
individually
like?
Would
you
actually
use
this
instead
of
saying
like?
Oh,
we
need
to
educate
these
people.
We
need
to
do
all
this.
C
People
need
to
do
all
this
work
so
that
they
value
it
the
same
way.
We
do.
That's
just
not
gonna
happen
it
historically.
It
never
will
happen
like
that.
You
have
to
kind
of
meet
consumers
where
they
already
are
and
then
start
leading
them
to
water.
That
way
so
I
think
as
long
as
decentralized
exchanges
realize
that
you
can
have
both,
but
it's
very
difficult
when
you
say
this
is
how
it
is.
You
know
you
should
find
this
valuable.
You
know
that
do.
C
You
know
you
can
choose
one
of
900
tokens
to
exchange
quickly
or
easily
so
I
think
having
both
of
those
is,
is
helpful
and
as
long
as
long
as
it
caters
to
what
people
want
and
what
they
will
will
use
I
think
it's
a
home,
run,
I
think
it'll
it'll
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
things.
Happen.
Awesome.
A
Awesome
so
does
anybody
else,
then
have
anything
to
add
before
we
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
outros
Andrew
anybody
nope,
okay!
So
then
guys,
thanks
again
so
much
for
joining
us.
We
had
over
1200
live
viewers.
Here
we
had
a
great
time
demoing
these
products
and
I'm
really
excited
looking
forward
to
these.
These
products
launching
more
features
and
then,
of
course,
looking
forward
to
all
coin
die.
Oh
I
believe
that
launching
early
next
year,
so
that's
gonna,
be
really
awesome.
Let's
go
and
ask
these
guys
where
we
can
find
out
more
information
about
them.
A
B
Just
our
website
all
coined
on
IO,
you
can
also
we
have
a
live
alpha
version
or
atomic
swap
all
available
at
swap
thought
all
coined
on
I/o
or
you
can
preview
our
exchange
user
experience,
UX
that
were
constantly
tweaking
for
feedback
at
preview.
I'll
point
I,
oh,
but
I'd
also
like
to
just
say
that
really
to
further
this
industry
long,
you
know
really
excited
to
see
how
the
decentralized
exchange
projects
come
out
so
again,
congrats
to
Chris
on
everything
you've
accomplished
in
looking
forward
to
you
know
really
marching
along
this
mission
together.
A
C
A
Heck,
yes,
that's!
Well!
That's
what
we're
here
for
people,
the
global
decentralized,
financial
renaissance!
That's
what
we're
all
here!
That's
just
really
great
to
hear
that
people
like
Andrew
and
people
like
Chris
are
are
a
part
of
building
that
amazing
future.
So
Chris,
where
could
we
find
out
more
about
you
and
disc
yeah.
D
People
can
go
to
bisque,
that's
be,
is
Q
dot
network.
That's
the
website
where
you
can
read
up
about
it,
but
mainly
that's
where
you
download
the
app
install
it
run
it
on
your
local
desktop
and
your
and
you're
good
to
go,
or
we
have
a
slack
channel.
You
can
find
a
link
to
that
and
get
an
invite
we're
on
twitter
at
bisque,
underscore
network
and
and
yeah
I'll.
D
Just
just
say
one
last
comment
here,
which
is
that
you
know
when
it
comes
to
decentralized
exchanges
like
all
decentralized
technologies,
we're
playing
a
long
game
and
we
best
play
it
together
right.
It's
the
same
story
that
we've
seen
play
out
over
and
over
and
over
again
like
with
the
internet
right
there
were
private
internet's,
wants
it
to
be
private
in
internets,
and
they
got
crushed
by
the
actual
internet
right
as
loosely
formed
protocols
and
standards
came
together
right,
IETF
style
and
all
kinds
of
different
collaboration,
w3c
style,
all
that
different
kind
of
collaboration.
D
That's
the
opportunity
that
before
us
now
write
what
bisque
is
is
three
things
right:
it's
a
desktop
application!
That's
the
obvious
part!
It's
a
peer-to-peer
network!
A
lot
like
bitcoins,
that's
kind
of
obvious
to
when
you
look
at
it
what's
less
obvious,
is
the
protocol
right.
What
bisque
is
is
a
protocol
for
peer-to-peer
direct
peer-to-peer
exchange
of
crypto,
crypto
and
crypto
fiat
right
and
that's
the
thing
that
hasn't
existed
before
and
that
isn't
proprietary,
the
bisque.
D
That's
all
free
and
open-source
software,
and
we
have
you-
can
think
of
bisques
protocol
today
for
trade
and
crypto
fiat
in
a
decentralized
way,
as
essentially
a
prototype,
a
working
prototype
of
that
kind
of
protocol.
We're
very
interested,
very
excited
about
opening
that
up
right.
Having
other
decentralized
exchanges
participate
in
that
that's
all
possible,
especially
as
lightning
comes
online,
and
all
these
different
decentralized
exchanges.
Why
not
work
together?
I
think
that's
going
to
happen
in
any
case
right
and
we're
in
no
rush
right,
especially
here
at
bisque,
by
the
way
we're
in
no
rush.
D
B
To
really
build
the
platform
that
everyone
deserves
in
this
community,
the
better
and
we're
also
not
doing
an
IC
o----,
where
you
have
no
plans
to
so
yeah
I'm,
definitely
reaching
out
to
you
because
I
think
this.
What
makes
this
community
so
special
is
just
how
open
people
are
to
help
each
other
with
open-source
technologies.
A
What
we
do
right
here
in
the
world
we
are
connecting
all
the
time,
but
all
right
you
need
connecting
one
after
another.
So
that
is
great
to
hear
you
guys.
As
chris
said,
I
mean
we
have
to
do
this
together.
You
know
whether
you're
in
Bitcoin
or
aetherium,
the
there's
your
projects
will
overlap
at
one
point,
because
we
do
we.
We
want
to
build
this
internet
work
right
up
like
jeans,
and
this
is
going
to
be
the
future
and-
and
it's
really
really
important-
that
we
don't
have
too
much
animosity
towards
each
other.
A
E
You
know
the
best
place
to
find
me
is
on
Twitter.
You
know
you,
you,
you
go
for
a
walk,
you
waiting
in
line
to
the
store
and
just
bring
up
Twitter.
You
know
so
I'm
always
on
there
and
there's
so
much
crypto
knowledge
and
wisdom
to
be
gained
there.
You
know
I
highly
recommend
that
you
curate
your
bubble
and
don't
allow
any
stupid
people
in
it
and
and
you'll
find
wisdom.
You
know-
and
hopefully
I
can
help
you.
E
You
know
hook
up
with
some
other
people,
just
like
we
do
here
on
the
world
crypto
network,
where
we
just
bring
the
love
and
show
everybody
how
many
commonalities
we
have.
You
know
as
much
as
I
as
I.
You
know
just
certain
projects
that
I,
don't
think
are
good
or
whatever
every
things
can
turn
around
things
can
change,
and
what
Chris
is
saying
is
is
so
incredible,
I
just
really
love
your
approach
of
you
know
consistent
solid
grab.
E
You
know
progress
one
step
at
a
time
and
what
that
means
to
me
is
kind
of
realizing
the
vision
of
what
Carter
was
saying,
which
is
that
you
know
the
centralized
choices
are
think
something
you
can
pop
bring
up
really
quick
turn
it
around
make
a
lot
of
money
and
then,
after
a
certain
amount
of
time,
the
decentralized
alternatives
become
so
powerful,
like
a
tidal
wave
and
it's
just
millions
and
millions
of
people.
You
know
on
the
internet,
on
Bitcoin
and
with
Pro
to
accept
decentralized
protocols.
E
E
You
know,
like
Carter,
was
saying
making
great
points
about
that.
You
know
making
it
easy
making
it.
You
know,
making
security
a
little
bit
easier
or
just
being
or
just
being
a
dependable
third
party,
perhaps,
and
and
that
way
we
can
work
together
on
all
these
different
types
of
ideas
and
everyone
can
be
focused
on
what
their
talents
are,
whether
it's
you
know,
base
layer,
stuff,
UX
design,
customer
service.
Everything
like
that,
so
I
think
we've
got
a
really
really
bright.
Future
bitcoins
rise
has
brought
us
to
yet
another
level.
A
Guys
it
was
a
great
great
having
you
guys
on,
and
this
is
just
a
great
point
Gabriel
that
you
know
bisque
is
a
protocol
as
well.
So
if
you
are
a
UX
team
like
Andrew
has
over
there
all
coined
that
way,
oh,
you
could
just
run
every
you
could.
Just
you
know,
write
your
software
to
run
over
the
top
of
the
protocols
it's
like
in
addition
to
what
you
guys
are
doing
now.
A
So
it's
just
great
we're
gonna
watch
all
this
interoperability
and
then,
when
you
slap
lightning
above
that,
it's
gonna
get
really
really
really
fun.
So
I'm
really
excited
for
the
future.
You
guys
2018
is
going
to
be
huge.
Make
no
mistake:
we'll
we
got
the
half
a
trillion
this
year,
we're
going
to
get
way
way
higher
next
year,
so
thanks
again
guys
so
much
for
joining,
really
really
appreciate
the
time.
We
really
like
again
want
to
thank
our
guests.
So
much
guys.
Thank
you.
A
So
much
for
joining
us
and
donating
your
time
here
to
the
audience
and
thanks
again
to
our
1200
plus
live
viewers
had
a
great
time,
thanks
to
everybody
in
the
chat
who's
just
running
around
all
sorts
of
fun
stuff.
Talking
about
how
I
sound
very
interesting
at
2x,
speed,
I'm,
sure
I
do
I!
Think
you
guys
again,
so
we
will
be
back
again
next
Sunday
at
12
p.m.
Pacific
right
here
on
the
world,
crypto
Network!
So
again
guys
thanks
so
much
for
joining
until
next
time.
Keep
talking.