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Docket #0449 - As-Of-Right Zoning Projects and Exploring Imposing Notice Requirements and Other Community-Informed Conditions
A
A
Or
okay
well,
we'll
speak
a
little
louder.
Welcome!
Welcome
to
the
Boston
City
Council
on
the
road
we
are
here
with
the
Committee
on
planning
development
and
transportation.
My
name
is
michele
wu
and
I'm
proud
to
have
the
committee
assignment
from
our
council
president
to
chair
this
particular
committee.
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
our
city
council,
president
Andreya
campbell
and
also
district
city,
councilor,
Kim,
Janey
and
I'm
sure
others
will
join
us
throughout
the
evening.
We
are
here
for
a
hearing
on
docket
number
zero.
A
Four,
four,
nine,
a
matter
sponsored
by
council
president
andreia
campbell
and
referred
to
this
committee
on
March
21st
2018
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
that
is
being
recorded
and
it
will
be
broadcasted
on
channels,
Comcast,
8,
RCN,
82
and
Verizon
1964
replayed
on
Saturday
April
28th
at
5:00
p.m.
please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices,
and
remember
that
we
will
take
public
testimony.
A
So
if
you
wish
to
testify,
remember
to
sign
it
on
the
proper
sheet
right
at
the
door
where
Juan
is,
is
you
can
ask
him
any
questions
and
okay
we'll
get
supper
later
again?
This
is
docket
number
0
for
49,
ordered
for
a
hearing
regarding
as
of
right
zoning
projects
and
exploring
impose
notice
requirements
and
other
community
informed
conditions.
B
Can
you
hear
me
perfect,
Thank,
You,
councillor,
Wu
and
Thank
You,
councillor
Janey
for
being
here
as
well?
I
just
want
to
be
quick,
so
we
can
jump
right
in
this
hearing
is
the
beginning,
I
hope
of
many
conversations
related
to
development
processes
in
the
City
of
Boston,
not
only
for
as
of
right
projects,
but
even
the
projects
that
require
conditional
or
conditional
use
applications
or
variances.
B
The
context
where
this
particular
hearing
order
came
out
of
the
situation
of
Popeye's
right
here
in
Codman
square,
but
I
think
there
are
many
examples
that
other
councillors
could
point
to
as
an
example
as
to
why
we
needed
this
hearing
now.
So
for
the
Popeye
situation.
For
those
who
don't
know
it
was
a
restaurant
that
came
before
the
Codman
square
community
asking
for
their
permission
to
open
asking
for
their
support
with
respect
to
a
conditional
use
application.
The
community
said.
B
No,
we
don't
want
that
in
our
community,
we're
looking
to
do
healthier
food
options
for
our
residents.
The
applicant
then
went
back
to
the
Zoning
Board
or
ice
ISD,
Thank
You
Commissioner
to
ISD
for
an
allowed
use
or
as
a
right
permit,
and
that
meant
that
the
place
or
the
parcel
of
land
that
they
were
looking
to
open
on
was
zoned
for
commercial
use
that
they
could
use.
B
As
of
right,
that
meant
they
didn't
have
to
go
through
a
community
process
so
to
the
shock
of
many
residents
in
the
Commons
gran,
aber
hood,
they
were
walking
down
the
street.
They
saw
Popeyes
under
construction
and
were
angry
and
upset
and,
of
course,
called
our
office
rather
than
focus
tonight
on
the
Popeyes.
B
This
is
a
hearing
to
discuss
the
process
in
general
and
what
we
can
do
differently,
going
forward
to
involve
community
not
only
in
projects
where
they
require
some
variants
or
some
approval
from
the
city
of
Boston,
but
even
looking
at
those
projects
that
are
as
of
right,
where
they
may
not
actually
need
an
additional
approval
to
open,
because
the
parcel
is
owned
a
certain
way.
What
can
we
do
in
those
situations
to
also
afford
community
more
voice
in
those
particular
projects?
B
The
Popeye's
has
since
been
built,
they
went
before
the
licensing
board
and
that
license
was
actually
denied,
so
they're
not
operating
currently
I
have
frankly
mixed
feelings
about
that,
because
they
followed
some
protocol
and
then
constructed
their
restaurant
and
went
to
licensing
expecting
to
get
it
and
they
were
denied.
So
now,
they've
invested,
obviously
money
and
and
built
this
restaurant,
where
they
can't
open
anymore.
So
how
can
we
talk
about
great
making
sure
that
these
processes
of
zoning
ISDN
and
the
licensing
department
are
all
connected?
B
So
these
are
conversations
that
I
hope
to
have
tonight
and
hope
to
be
a
part
of
the
dialogue.
Thank
You
councillor,
Wu
I,
want
to,
of
course
turn
it
back
over
to
her
in
case
councillor
Janie
has
anything
to
say,
but
I
want
to
thank
the
residents
for
being
here
tonight.
It's
a
little
warm
in
here
so
bear
with
us,
but
we
wanted
to
do
it
in
community.
We
wanted
to
do
in
the
evening
time
so
that
folks
from
the
community
could
participate.
So
thank
you
to
my
residents
for
being
here
and
I.
C
Thank
you
so
much
first
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
to
council
president
Campbell
for
sponsoring
this
important
hearing
and
to
councillor
Wu
for
holding
this
hearing
in
the
evening,
holding
it
out
in
the
community
so
that
residents
can
attend.
This
is
a
very
important
subject
matter,
even
though
district
4
is
not
my
district.
This
is
an
issue
that
we
are
facing.
Citywide
I
certainly
get
a
lot
of
you
know,
complaints
or
concerns
being
raised
by
residents
in
district
7.
C
There
is
a
the
project
that
is
happening
now
that
residents
have
not
been
informed
of
because
it's
as
of
right
and
and
with
so
many
lots
being
developed
throughout
the
city
of
Boston,
not
all
of
which
will
require
you
know
a
variance
through
zoning.
It's
just
important
to
make
sure
that
residents
have
a
voice
that
they
at
minimum
are
informed
about
what
is
happening
right
in
their
neighborhood
and
so
I'm.
You
know
excited
to
hear
and
learn
and
hear,
particularly
from
folks
who
are
attending
tonight.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
great.
A
D
Good
evening,
thanks
for
inviting
us
here
tonight,
my
name
is
buddy.
Christopher
I'm,
the
Commissioner
for
inspectional
services
for
the
city
of
austin
isd
is
responsibility,
is
to
enforce
the
building
code,
the
zoning
code
in
the
sanitary
code.
We
are
often
asked
about
how
things
get
through
the
process.
D
You
know
when
a
community
doesn't
want
a
project,
but
yet
the
project
still
is
allowed
to
go
through,
and
we
can
answer
these
questions
and
aren't
always
the
answers
you
want
to
hear,
but
it's
the
truth
and
99%
of
the
time
it's
the
law
and,
basically
you
know
the
definition
of
what
an
as
of
right
project
means.
It's,
basically
that
the
project
is
not
asking
for
zoning
relief
or
building
code
relief.
D
The
city
of
Boston
is
got
an
entire
zoning
code
when
it
was
first
written
back
in
the
70s,
it
was
like
69
pages
I
think
it's
like
up
to
12,000.
So
every
community
has
its
own
nuances
and
its
own
uniqueness.
When
a
project
comes
in
to
ISD,
we
don't
have
an
opinion
on
the
project.
We
analyze
it
against
those
three
codes
to
see
if
it
meets
the
requirements.
D
If
the
project
meets
all
of
the
requirements
and
I
mean
all
of
them,
then
the
project
is
considered
as
of
right
by
that
it
means
that
it
has
already
met
all
the
zoning
statutes,
all
the
building
code
statues.
We
have
not
only
you,
know
the
responsibility,
but
it's
an
audit
for
us
to
give
them
a
building
permit
to
proceed
and
that's
the
way
that
we
act.
Lawyers
the
community
gets
involved
on,
a
variance
is
a
spore
and
the
only
ones
who
can
gives
various
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
in
is
DS
world.
D
If
the
requirement
is
two
feet
and
it's
one
foot
eleven
and
a
half
inches,
it's
not
two
feet,
so
we
deny
it
if
they
want
to.
If
the
applicant
wants
to
continue
that
and
ask
for
relief,
they've
got
to
go
to
the
zone
and
go
to
the
appeals,
the
Enabling
Act,
if
there's
no
important
appearance
online,
and
it's
an
all
these
wonderful
books
about
the
legal
logistics
of
how
it
works.
If
you
like
reading
this
stuff,
it's
very
interesting.
If
you
don't
like
reading
it,
it's
very
boring
I
happen
to
like
reading.
D
E
You,
commissioner,
good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
tonight.
My
name
is
Jeff
Hampton
I'm,
the
senior
zoning
planner
for
the
Boston
planning
and
development
agency
I'm,
also
the
executive
secretary
of
the
Boston
Zoning
Commission
and
the
BPD
A's
liaison
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeal.
So
pretty
much.
My
job
is
anything
that
is
zoning
related
in
the
city
of
Boston
lands.
On
my
desk,
my
the
job
of
the
Boston
Zoning
Commission
is
to
enact
new
zoning
laws
for
the
city.
You
know
to
take
into
account
land-use
dimensions,
health,
transportation.
E
They
aren't
tasked
with
enacting
the
zoning
laws.
They
are
also
tasked
with
approving
institutional
master
plans.
So
the
Harvard's
Northeastern's
BC,
the
city,
knows
what
they're
going
to
build
five
seven
ten
years
out,
they're
in
charge
of
approving
those
plans,
they're
also
in
charge
of
approving
large-scale
development
plans.
That
is
a
predictable
zoning
and
approval
tool.
An
example
is
South
Bay
the
apartments
over
there,
the
restaurants,
the
movie
theater,
was
approved
through
the
development
plan
over
in
that
area.
E
A
Great
thank
you
so
I'll
turn
to
my
colleagues
now
for
questions.
I
do
want
to
recognize
that
there's
staff
in
the
room
from
councillor
Michael
Flaherty's
office
and
from
councillor
Mark,
SEOmoz
office,
I,
again
I'm
sure
others
will
come
in
as
well.
So
we'll
do
questions
and
then
right
now
we
only
have
four
folks
signed
up
to
testify,
so
maybe
I'll
take
at
least
a
few
and
ask
our
panelists
to
stay,
and
maybe
they
can
respond
to
some
of
them.
As
a
group
after
that,
as
well
council
president.
B
Can
you
walk
us
through
just
in
laymen
terms
the
process
overall
for
an
as
of
right
project,
a
conditional
use
in
article
80
I,
think
some
people
have
heard
those
terms
often
use
these
terms
interchangeably
and
when
walking
us
through
that
process,
what
is
required
so
what
notification
is
required
when
who
sends
it
out
who's
responsible
for
letting
community
know?
What
is
it?
What
exists
right
now.
D
F
D
Size
and
complexity
of
the
project,
there
are
various
elements
and
information
you
need.
Basically,
what
you
need
is
a
set
of
drawings
that
articulate
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
do.
You
have
to
identify
the
location
of
it
in
place:
the
structure
of
the
building
on
a
site
plan
so
that
we
can
analyze
it
against
the
zone.
D
The
azomite
project
comes
in
two
ISDN
kind
of
one
fill
out
the
application
kind
of
truth
review
it
for
its
consistency,
with
the
information
that's
needed,
and
then
it
goes
through
a
plans
examining
process
so
that
they
these
there
are
nine
staff
members.
Now
that
review
these
projects
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
almani
would
zoning
in
the
building
Pro.
If
everything
is
alright,
it
is
then
sent
back
upstairs.
The
applicant
is
notified.
It
usually
takes
between
27
to
30
days.
You
are
issued
your
building.
Permit
you
go
forth,
there
is
no
public
notice
required.
D
There
is
no
newspaper
printouts
or
anything
to
do
with
that,
and
then
because
it
is
a
normal,
is
deed
process
for
review
during
construction.
There
are
two
other
considerations
in
zone
one.
It's
allowed
to
it's
conditional
three.
It's
forbidden
if
it
falls
into
the
category
of
conditional
or
forbidden
it's
talking
about.
The
use
like
the
gas
station
is
not
allowed
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
D
So
in
those
cases
it's
a
use
variant,
you're,
looking
for
the
other
zoning
issues
are
things
about
massing
and
density
of
tall
as
the
bill
think
of
wide?
Is
it
how
far
away
is
it
from
the
property
line?
In
some
cases,
what
the
materials
are
made
out
of
a
historic
area
if
there
is
a
violation
that
has
to
go
to
the
Board
of
Appeals?
Is
the
issues
a
rejection
letter
that
says
these?
D
Are
the
articles
that
you're
in
violation
of
the
applicant
then
has
to
go
over
to
our
appeals
board
file
for
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals?
Now
the
way
that
we
do
this
under
Mayor
Walsh
is
that
the
applicant
comes
in
in
applies
highest.
You
will
not
schedule
that
meeting
until
we
have
a
conversation
with
the
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
decides
whether
it's
been
a
bodice
meeting,
the
community
meeting
or
a
big
event,
even
the
real
big
meetings,
Jeff
we'll
get
into
about
the
article
later.
D
There
is
a
20
day,
public
notice
period
for
a
project
to
need
variances,
so
the
director
part
is
within
three
feet
of
the
property
or
will
receive
postcards.
We've
posted
in
the
newspapers,
we've
posted
on
all
the
city
online
social
media,
so
we
can
get
as
many
people
involved
as
we
can
during
that
period.
There
is
the
public
interaction,
whether
it's
community
meeting
or
rebuttals
meeting
everybody.
D
To
voice
their
concern,
compliment
or
complaints
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
responsibility
is
to
listen,
not
to
mandate
not
to
guide
the
discussion,
but
to
listen
to
what
you
feel
about
the
project.
Their
responsibility
is
there
to
take
that
back
to
City
Hall
so
that
they
can
render
their
opinion
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
for
the
people
that
could
not
make
it
to
the
meeting.
The
project
is
scheduled,
the
Court
of
Appeals.
D
We
have
two
types
of
Zoning:
one
is
one
and
two
family
small
business
owning
which
takes
place
on
Thursday
night
at
10:10,
Mass
Ave,
and
then
we
have
the
regular
zoning
which
takes
place
on
Tuesday
wanted
it's
every
other
week.
On
the
eighth
floor,
we
made
on
one
its
noticed.
Everything
is
done.
The
meeting
is
scheduled.
D
The
applicant
gets
the
opportunity
to
present
the
case
to
the
seven
panel,
seven
person
panel
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
and
they
get
to
articulate
whatever
they
want,
whether
they
want
to
go
into
the
nuances
of
the
law
where
they
want
to
go
to
the
community
benefit,
whatever
they
want
to
present
they
get
to
present.
The
board
listens,
asks
questions.
Then
it's
opened
up
to
the
elected
officials.
D
Most
of
the
elected
officials
are
really
well
versed
in
these
projects,
so
they
know
pretty
much
where
they
stand
and
what
their
so
even
the
counselors
themselves
serve.
State
representatives
or
their
representative
will
be
there
to
present
the
elected
officials
opinion
about
the
project.
The
board
then
opens
it
up
to
public
discussion.
They
usually
start
with
those
in
favor
and
they
hear
testimony
it's
totally
at
the
board's
discretion.
How
much
they
listen
to
or
how
much
they
don't.
Listen
to
I
have
been
at
meetings
where
there's
been
50
people
in
favor
of
a
project.
D
The
board
doesn't
want
to
listen
to
50
people
say
the
exact
same
thing
so
they'll,
you
know,
listen
to
people
here
a
few
of
the
comments
and
then
pull
the
people.
All
those
people
in
favor
of
this
project
you
know
show
of
hands
the
people
who
are
opposed
to
the
project,
get
the
exact
same
audience
as
far
as
their
thoughts
and
ideas
same
process.
D
Now
the
board
can
make
I
guess
four
three
before
decisions,
the
applicant
always
has
the
opportunity
to
withdraw.
There's
very
interesting
why
people
withdraw
projects?
Sometimes
they
withdraw,
because
it
wasn't
a
good
enough
community
process
and
they
know
that
of
all
other
times.
They
feel
that
they
haven't
presented
their
case
properly
and
they
want
a
second
shot.
It
all
perfectly
allowed.
The
board
has
to
vote
on
whether
they're
going
to
allow
them
to
defer
the
project
or
not.
When
it
comes
to
the
actual
vote,
the
board
has
three
options:
approved,
denied
and
denied.
D
With
prejudice
approved
is
just
one
sentence:
they
approve
it.
They
can
add
caveats
to
the
decision.
Pra
design
view
it's
actually
anything,
they
can
act,
that's
usually
the
one
that
they
add
to
it
or
if
there's
some
nuance
about
the
design
they
have.
The
authority
to
make
comment
deny
is
simply
that
the
project
is
denied.
The
applicant
cannot
bring
the
project
that
for
a
year
without
substantial
change
to
the
project.
If
the
project
is
denied
with
prejudice
without
prejudice,
then.
G
D
Ist
provides
a
secretary
at
the
board
that
records
all
this
information.
It's
filmed
than
everything
and
publicized.
The
legal
decision
is
then
written
back
at
eyes.
D
in
our
legal
department
could
then
brought
back
the
board.
That
heard
the
case.
It's
very
important
because
there
are
seven
primary
members
and
seven
background
entities,
but
the
seven
members
that
heard
the
case
of
the
ones
who
have
this
the
decision,
no
matter
what
it
is,
comes
back
to
the
board
its
side.
D
If
then
comes
back
to
me
the
way
the
ordinance
reads,
the
building
commissioner
has
to
be
noticed.
Just
they
just
tell
me
a
past,
they
show
up.
Do
we
have
status?
That
starts,
which
is
called
the
20-day
appeal
period
at
that
point,
anybody
in
the
city
of
Boston
can
appeal
this
project,
but
you
gotta
have
a
reason
to
appeal
to
not
like
it
is
not
gonna
hold
wall
at
the
end
of
the
twenty
days.
There
is
no
appeal,
then
the
Board
of
Appeals
ought
as
well
to
issue
the
building
all
right.
E
E
Article
80
was
adopted
by
the
Zoning
Commission
back
in
1996
and
unfortunately,
I
was
there
when
it
happened.
So
there
are
different
types
of
review
that
have
different
types
of
thresholds.
There's
large
project
review,
which
I'm
going
to
use
Dorchester
as
an
example
where
you're,
adding
50,000
square
feet
or
more.
E
You
have
small
project
review,
which
has
different
thresholds
where
it's
15
dwelling
units
or
20,000
square
feet,
there's
also
under
large
project
review,
a
substantial
rehabilitation
threshold,
which
is
any
rehab
project
that
would
cost
more
than
50%
of
the
assessed
value
from
the
year
before.
According
to
the
assessing
office,
there
is
what
they
call
plan
development
review,
which
is
similar
to
the
South
Bay.
You
need
to
have
at
least
one
acre
of
land
and
being
an
area
that
allows
this
type
of
development
to
occur.
E
If
you
are
subject
to
or
elect
to
go
through
plan
development
area
review,
you
are
also
required
at
the
same
time,
to
go
through
large
project
review.
So
is
parallel
tracks,
one
that
is
really
not
affecting
Dorchester.
All
that
much
is
institutional
master
plan
review
and
again,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning
of
the
evening,
those
are
for
colleges,
hospitals
and
the
like.
Those
are
usually
ten-year
master
plans
that
show
dormitories.
E
E
There
are
even
for
small
project
review
where
there
might
be
22
units
of
housing.
There
will
be
be
PDA,
sponsored
events
to
talk
about
the
proposal.
It
allows
the
creation
of
an
impact
advisory
group,
which
is
the
group
that
speaks
for
the
neighborhood
in
relation
to
this
project.
They
get
to
weigh
in
on
mitigation
on
transportation,
the
number
of
units,
the
actual
design
of
the
building
parking
bicycle
rooms.
If
you
want
them,
they
are
chosen
and
they,
the
names
are
submitted
by
the
elected
officials
for
to
be
nominated
for
this
impact
advisory
group.
E
There
is
no
article
aiding
me
process
that
doesn't
have
at
least
three
or
four
public
meetings,
because
a
project
that
is
filed
with
the
BPD
a
that
might
require
a
zoning
relief
at
the
board
of
appeal,
and
it
actually
happened
today
at
the
board
of
appeal,
where
it
started
at
a
certain
number
of
units,
but
after
community
input
and
input
from
the
elected
officials,
it
is
now
down
to
this
many
units.
So
article
80
is
an
incredibly
public
and
transparent
process.
D
D
B
D
B
G
D
D
They
have
to
go
to
the
Board
of
Appeals,
so
that's
when
they
went
through
the
process
and
then
what
support
and
all
that,
and
then
somebody
on
their
team
realized,
a
sit-down
restaurant
isn't
allowed
use,
and
one
of
the
first
things
I
did
when
I
was
at
ISD
was
explain
what
a
takeout
means,
because
you
can't
go
into
when
I
think
council
was
very
much
with
me
in
these
discussions.
You
can't
go
to
a
restaurant,
not
finish
your
meal
and
take
the
foot
out
without
it
being
a
takeout.
D
D
D
D
B
It's
it's
just
a
new
project
starting
a
new
process,
no
conversation
about
the
previous
application.
If
we
wanted
to
change
that,
if
we
wanted
to
think
about
projects
and
just
starting
with
those
projects
that
were
initially
denied
and
then
say,
refile
to
proceed
as
of
right,
because
they
found
an
allowed
use
like
in
the
Popeye
situation,
how
would
we
go
about,
for
example,
one
maybe
adding
a
sunset
provision
where,
for
example,
they
have
to
maybe
wait
a
month
or
three
months
or
two?
D
Mission
is
we
have
the
enforces
of
the
laws.
I
get
nervous
every
time,
somebody
who
wants
to
just
change
something
without
the
specifics,
because
you've
got
to
be
careful
of.
You
know
the
unintended
consequences
of
your
decision
and
what
we
try
to
do,
and
Jeff
and
I
spent
many
hours
discussing
these
things
in
a
vacuum.
Well,
what
would
happen
in
this
scenario?
What
would
happen
in
that
scenario?
So
not
that
we're
we
objective
is,
but
I
just
make
sure
that
when
you
go
through
the
analysis
of
what
you
want
to
change,
what.
D
B
I
think
there
will
be
more
conversations
to
weigh
the
possibilities
of
any
anything
new,
but
I
would
at
least
like
the
community
to
understand-
and
these
are
questions
that
came
up
from
community
as
well.
What
would
it
take
if
you
wanted
to
change
it
so
that
there
are
sunset
provision,
for
example,
is
required,
or
at
least
there's
a
delay
in
time
in
which
an
applicant
who
was
previously
denied
would
be
able
to
come
back
to
say
ISD
for
an
allowed
use
after
being
denied
under.
D
E
E
Because
it
is
a
state
law
it
would
take.
So
the
city
of
Boston
is
not
subject
to
the
Massachusetts
state
zoning
law.
We
have
our
own
enabling
act
chapters.
Six,
sixty
five
of
the
acts
of
1956
I
believe
may
be.
The
last
time
they
were
amended
was
2001
I
believe.
So
it's
not
something.
That's
done
willy-nilly.
B
Any
so
if,
for
example,
the
owner
didn't
live
at
the
unit
in
which,
like
in
Dorchester
I'll
just
say,
an
address,
75
Ocean
Street.
If
the
owner
didn't
live
there
and
say
lived
in
Milton
with
the
notification
go
to
the
owner
in
Milton,
how
would
we
go
about
changing
it
so
that
the
owner
or
the
tenant,
the
person
occupying
the
75,
Ocean
Street
location
got
the
notification
as
well.
D
D
B
D
D
H
D
D
G
D
D
B
A
C
D
C
I
D
Interpretation
and
I
will
get
yelled
at
for
saying
I'm,
putting
a
dorm
up
my
house
that
affects
my
immediate
neighbors,
because
they're
gonna
see
it
I'm
putting
up
ten
units
of
new
housing
and
what
was
the
three
family
that
effects
of
community
particle
80
projects
effect
the
city.
So
that's
the
gradation
because
I
use
OH&S.
They
have
a
much
better
sense
of
every
community
and
they
know
what
projects.
D
C
If
I
own
a
property
and
want
to
renovate
my
basement,
let's
say
and
I
have
to
get
a
variance
through
zoning.
How
is
that,
then?
How
does
that
impact
the
larger
neighborhood
if
you're,
just
taking
you,
know
the
unfinished
floor,
putting
in
a
floor
some
insulation,
an
entertainment
room,
let's
say
so.
D
Hypothetically,
don't
hold
me
to
it
all
time
the
answer
a
basement
analysis
depending
upon
a
big
identity
where
it
would
go
through.
In
most
cases
it
would
be
a
floor
area
ratio
violation,
meaning
that
the
living
space
is
getting
bigger
of
the
house
and
one
of
the
statutory
requirements
is
only
is
that
analysis
more
aeration,
it
would
go
to
it
would
come
in
to
us.
They
would
ask
for
the
barriers
we
would
notify
neighborhood
services.
They
would
then
decide
whether
this
warrants.
Okay.
D
B
C
J
So
it
really
depends
on
the
courts
version
of
how
they
would
interpret
someone's
damages.
So,
as
commissioner
was
mentioning
before
going
back
to
the
300-foot
interpretation,
typically
in
order
to
have
standing
before
court
to
file
an
appeal,
you
have
to
prove
to
the
court
that
you
are
directly
impacted
and
harmed,
resulting
in
some
sort
of
damage
that
the
court
could
actually
consider
and
litigate.
C
Okay
and
then
this
is
kind
of
off
topic,
but
it
is
about
you
know,
notifying
neighbors,
so
not
so
much
as
a
right
building,
but,
let's
say
demolition,
let's
say:
there's
a
house
and
if
someone
comes
and
tears
down
half
the
house,
so
this
is
an
actual
scenario
in
my
district
that
has
happened.
What
kind
of
notification
just
say
I
have
the
permits
to
do
such
say:
I've
done
everything
right
that
I've
gone
to
your
office
as
the
person
who
owns
this
this
building.
C
D
You
know
it
affects
the
arcing.
Maybe
you
know
the
specific
project
you're
talking
about,
but
nothing
is
that
simple
I
wish
it
were
when
it
comes
to
demolition
of
buildings.
Anything
that's
older
than
50
years.
35
years
old
50
has
to
go
to
the
Landmarks
Commission
for
determination,
whether
it's
of
historical
value
or
not,
and
that
can
be
a
community
process.
Not
almost
so
that's
the
first
place
you
got
to
go
to
that,
then
you
got
to
come
to
ISD
to
get
your
permits
for
demolition.
Those
demolition
in
and
of
itself
is
not.
C
C
C
D
E
There
is
a
zoning
article,
article
85,
that
governs
demolition
delay
that
speaks
to
this
process
and
I
would
imagine
it
would
it
would
catch
those
projects
that,
like
the
commissioner,
said
for
those
buildings
that
are
50
years
and
older?
However,
you
know
if
there
was
something
where
somebody
was
just
doing
in
addition
to
a
building
that
was
built
20
years
ago
and
they
needed
to
tear
down
a
wall
for
whatever
reason
it
wouldn't
be
triggered
under
that
zoning.
Article
I
mean
it's
just
when
you
look
at
the
the
Bears
simplicity
of
it.
E
It's
really
just
an
alteration
of
the
project
you're
taking
down
the
wall,
to
maybe
put
something
else
up,
but
usually
when
you
are
raising
a
building
and
you
go
through
the
demolition
delay
project
hardly
ever
is
it
has
a
fright
project,
but
the
lots
are
just
too
small
nowadays
and,
as
we
all
know,
you
know
those
people
that
are
putting
up
units
9
is
the
magic
number.
You
know
they
always
want
9
units
and
a
lot
of
the
city
is
zoned
for
one
twos
and
threes.
So
anytime,
there's
any
sort
of
demolition.
E
People
want
to
go
bigger.
So
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
companion
with
the
board
of
Appeal
nine
times
out
of
ten,
and
so
the
board
of
Appeal
process
in
terms
of
notification
would
get
noticed,
but
in
terms
of
buildings
that
are
older
than
50
years,
I
don't
know.
If
landmarks
has
any
process
in
place
for
something
like
that.
G
D
Now,
to
just
point
about
big
projects
coming
in
it,
it's
very
funny
at
ISD
we
have
people
come
in
and
you
know
they're
gonna
do
a
a
decent
project,
that's
going
to
involve,
taking
down
a
building
or
two
they
apply
for
their
building
permit
and
they
automatically
assume
they've
got
a
demolition
permit.
It's
true.
They
have
to
come
back
and
get
a
separate
demolition
permit.
But
if
somebody
comes
into
ISD
and
says
we
want
to
demolish
this
building,
that's
all
we
want
to
do,
except
for
the
historical
piece.
C
D
D
C
E
The
zoning
code
does
address
it.
It's
called
an
accessory
use
and
typically
I'll
give
an
example
and
then
I'll
backtrack
to
so.
If
you
were
a
lawyer-
and
you
wanted
to
hang
your
shingle
out
in
front
of
your
house,
you're
allowed
to
do
that,
you're
allowed
an
accessory
use
is
allowed
wherever
that
main
use
is
allowed.
So
if
you
have
a
two
family
in
a
two
family
district-
and
you
want
to
open
up
a
log,
you
know
you
want
to
hang
your
shingle
and
run
your
law
office
out
of
there.
E
You
can,
with
the
understanding
that
that
accessory
use
is
no
greater
than
25%
of
the
floor
area.
So
if
you
took
a
triple-decker
on
Adams
Street
and
you
wanted
to
run
a
business
out
of
the
first
floor,
live
on
the
second
and
rent.
The
third
you'd
have
to
go
to
the
board
of
appeals,
because
it
is
no
longer
an
accessory
use
because
you
have
exceeded
that
25%
of
floor
area.
So.
K
E
It
also
can't
be
open
to
the
public
so
that
it's
very
specific
when
you
look
at
the
zoning
code,
there
is
a
whole
zoning
article.
You
know
dedicated
to
the
parameters
of
in
accessory
use,
whether
it
be
a
driveway,
a
shed
in
your
backyard,
a
swimming
pool,
fences
for
an
accessory
use.
It
can't
be
open
to
the
public,
so
you
can't
have
traffic
coming
in.
You
can't
have
people
parking
in
your
driveway,
it's
very
specific.
If
you
are
doing
that,
it's
not
an
accessory
use.
It's
now
a
business
use
in
a
residential
district.
C
Well,
thank
you
Paul
for
again
for
being
here
and
for
answering
those
questions.
I'm
really
grateful
for
the
opportunity
again.
I
think
this
is
really
important.
I
think
noticing
the
public
is
very
important,
so
I
really
appreciate
this
hearing
order.
Unfortunately,
I
do
have
another
Kim
and
I
have
to
go,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
out
tonight
and
I
wanted
to.
Thank
my
colleagues
again.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
A
You
councillor
Janey
I'm,
going
to
ask
just
a
few
short
questions
and
then
before
we
take
any
second
round
from
us,
I
want
to
take
public
testimony
for
ten
minutes.
We
have
four
people
signed
up.
So
if
everyone
sticks
to
the
2-minute
limit,
we'll
get
everyone
in
then
some
of
these
testimony
written
testimony
include
some
of
the
questions
that
we
would
want
to
ask
anyway,
so
so
I
guess
just
to
to
frame
it.
A
It
sounds
like
what
we're
hearing
today
is
that
there
are
some
things
that
state
law
defines
like
the
number
of
days
in
the
notice
periods
and
certain
definitions,
but
there's
a
whole
lot
that
is
kind
of
entirely
within
the
city's
decision
point
particularly
around
one
were
allowed
to
ask
for
any
information
from
the
applicants
about
their
intended
uses
right.
So
if
we
theoretically
wanted
to
create
forms,
that
would
ask
you,
are
you
demolishing
anything?
Are
you
going
to
set
up
this
or
that
we
could
ask
for
that
right.
D
A
A
meaning,
if
we
wanted
to
add
a
question
in
there.
Let's
say
we
were
very
concerned
about:
will
you
have
more
than
you
know?
Will
you
have
a
deliverer
delivery
truck
coming
in
more
than
three
times
a
week
for
a
certain
number
of
hours
or
theoretically?
Could
we
amend
the
forms
to
ask
that-
and
this
is
a
bad
example,
but.
D
D
A
E
The
city
level
that
could
also
be
from
the
transportation
department.
So
if
you
have
a
project
where
you
are
required
to
have
one
or
two
loading
days
and
you
go
through
large
project
review
through
the
BPD,
a
that
will
be
discussed
with
BTD,
because
it's
not
only
the
developer,
ISD
and
the
epa.
It's
all
city
agencies
have
a
seat
at
the
table,
whether
it
be
BTD,
Water
and
Sewer.
Anything
public
works,
so
I
can't
speak
for
BTD.
In
terms
of
what
time
you
know,
loading
docks
can
be
used
or
the
access
to
the
loading.
A
So
once
we
have
the
forms
that
people
fill
out
that
ask
various
things
in
different
departments
have
different
questions.
They
want
to
ask
that
information
is
public
record
right.
So
when
someone
fills
out
a
permit,
that's
anybody
could
see
it
and
it's
really
up
to
the
city's
discretion.
How
we
want
to
share
it
in
who
we
want
to
share
it
with
beyond.
You
know,
satisfying
the
minimum
radius
as
interpreted
from.
D
A
And
I
know
some
of
the
folks
who
are
going
to
testify
we'll
bring
this
up,
but
that
means
that
the
city
could
and
in
some
cases
does
post
online
any
permit,
that's
pulled
for
certain
types
of
projects,
but
we
could
expand
that.
You
know
anytime.
Someone
comes
in
to
file
for
now
all
of
the
CBA,
all
the
variants
requests.
A
D
G
A
Similarly,
I
think
the
other
ask
again
that
will
be
heard.
It's
around,
which
email
lists
receive
those
notifications,
I
know
through
the
BR,
the
BPD
a
particular.
You
can
sign
up
to
get
any
notices
related
to
certain
neighborhoods,
but
there
the
city
could
theoretically
broaden
that
if
okay
do
those
emails
happen
now
with
ISDN.
A
Okay,
so
I
know
we'll
have
more
from
us,
but
I
want
to
take
ten
minutes
of
public
testimony.
The
folks
we
have
signed
up
our
Rick
Yoder
DaVita,
Andelman,
Cynthia,
leche,
Johnson
and
Shawn
wheeler.
So
if
you
could
go
in
that
order
at
this
podium
over
here
again,
please
state
your
name
and
your
address
and
keep
your
remarks
to
two
minutes.
Thank
you.
L
Pardon
me
if
I've
asked
things
have
already
been
answered,
but
I
double-check
on
the
the
question
we
were
raised
with
the
Popeyes
getting
of
a
permit
building
and
then
finding
out
they
couldn't
get
a
license
from
the
licensing
board.
Why
not
reverse
the
process?
You'd
first
get
your
license,
which
wouldn't
cost
very
much.
If
you
got
it
and
then
you'd
know
you
could
apply
for
a
permit
and
then
you
wouldn't
be
stuck
with
the
building
and
can't
use
where
we
are
now.
L
That's
one
question:
the
other
is
on
the
question.
This
is
of
notification
last
year
it
until
sometime
in
the
middle
of
the
year.
You
could
sign
up
for
the
city
and
get
mailed
notices
to
you
by
Ward
of
any
zoning
appeals
that
were
coming
up.
So
you
would
know
you,
wouldn't
you
weren't
dependent
on
your
mayor's
representative?
You
could
see
every
single
one.
L
That's
ended,
there's
no
way
you
can
sign
up
for
an
email
list,
so
one
you
have
to
know,
and
it's
not
on
the
the
city
website
that
you
should
go
to
the
check
the
Herald
and
that
means
checking
every
day
or
going
to
the
web
site
special
website
where
you
can
do
a
search
which
is
glunk,
II
and
I.
Think
it's
intimidating
to
a
lot
of
people.
L
So
basically
you
have
you
can
go
to
the
city's
hearing
notices,
but
those
are
only
come
are
published
like
five
to
seven
days
before
the
hearing,
which
is
an
absurd
short,
a
time
for
a
neighborhood
to
be
notified
to
have
time
to
call
their
counselors
or
notify
other
neighbors
to
write
up
statements
to
do
research
5
days.
7
days
is
ridiculous:
it
used
to
be
now.
If
you
went
to
the
Herald
you'd
find
out
oil.
You
could
find
out
for
weeks
ahead
of
time,
which
is
a
little
more
reasonable.
L
So
my
question
is:
why
can't
it's
as
soon
as
the
Zoning
Board
sends
a
notice
to
the
Herald?
Why
can't
that
be
sent
to
an
email
list
of
anyone,
that's
interested
in
knowing
what
hearings
are
coming
up
so
they'll
get
it
the
same
day
or
the
next
day
after
the
Herald
publishes
it?
That
would
mean
the
neighborhood's
would
be
well
informed
of
what
was
happening
in
their
own
neighborhoods
right
now.
Much
of
us
can
get
bias
unless
they
have
someone
who's
dedicated
to
checking
the
damn
thing.
Every
day.
L
L
Second,
what
any
City
Council
a
City
Board
issues,
a
notice
of
hearing
of
the
city
webs
on
the
city
website.
The
city
computer
program
will
send
out
the
same
notice
by
email
to
anyone
who
has
signed
up
for
notices
from
that
board
will
be
publicized
prominently
that
this
option
is
available.
Three,
it
will
be
clearly
displayed
in
the
email
and
email
notice
that
anyone
made
me
submit
a
comment
for
the
hearing
by
u.s.
mail
or
email.
L
These
comments
we
read
at
the
hearing
out
loud
if
the
person
as
if
the
person
was
there
to
speak
directly
identical
comments,
could
be
bunched
and
read
just
once,
but
all
the
writers
names
will
be
read
aloud
number
five
and
the
practice
of
adding
an
applicant.
A
few
days
before
the
hearing.
Great
now
think
you
can
sneak
someone
in
at
the
end
and
nobody
would
know.
G
L
The
I'm
not
sure
about
the
in
the
zoning
but
I
know
with
the
licensing
board
you
can.
You
can
do
that
and
I'm
sorry
that
no
one's
here
from
the
licensing
board
but
I
think
it's
an
equal
opportunity
for
us
to
have
some
influence,
because
we
can
speak
at
the
licensing
board
about
whether
a
bar
should
go
in
a
restaurant
should
go
in
anything
had
to
do
with
food
and
alcohol.
They
take
public
comment,
but
you
wouldn't
know
it
and
there's
no
way
to
find
out
about
other
than
that.
L
G
M
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
de
vita
Andelman
I
live
at
94
Clarkson
Street
in
Dorchester
I'm,
also
chairperson
of
the
great
abode
in
Geneva
Neighborhood
Association
I,
just
want
to
thank
the
city
councillors
for
giving
us
opportunity
to
actually
have
a
City
Council
hearing
in
the
neighborhood
in
during
evening
hours.
It's
not
so
much
a
problem
for
me
because
I'm
retired,
but
a
lot
of
people
here,
I'm
sure
work
other
jobs
and
it's
much
more
difficult
to
get
down
to
City
Hall
during
daytime
hours.
So
thank
you
for
doing
this.
M
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
familiar
with
as
I
write
projects
and
in
my
work,
life
I
also
had
some
contact
with
the
sanitary
code,
the
building
code
and
the
zoning
code.
But
as
of
right
projects,
I
mean
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
bit
more
respect
in
terms
of
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
what's
going
on
next
door
to
them
across
the
street
around
the
corner
and
in
back
of
them
and
I'm.
M
Frankly,
I
don't
think
it's
asking
too
much
for
people
to
be
informed
and
get
this
information
ahead
of
time.
A
few
years
ago,
the
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
actually
sent
out
notification
to
community
groups
to
community
leaders
about
of
right
projects.
I
think
that
lasted
you
know,
maybe
for
a
year
or
less
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
The
list
stopped.
I
would
like
to
propose
that
and
I
really
apologize.
Mr.
M
Christopher,
that
not
everybody
can
get
down
to
ten
ten
massive
during
working
hours
and
look
at
plans
that
are
submitted
and
description
of
projects
and
who
owns
the
project.
A
lot
of
people
are
not
computer
literate
and,
frankly,
the
ISD
website
is
not
that
easily
navigated
for
people
who
are
not
computer
literate.
M
So
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
there
be
signage
placed
in
front
of
wherever,
as
of
right,
projects
are
happening
with
the
project
description,
the
owner
and
the
contractors
name
address
and
phone
numbers,
the
duration
of
the
project
and
the
permit
number,
and
also
the
city
phone
number
where
people
can
call
if
they
have
issues
with
what
is
going
on.
I'll,
give
you
one
example
as
a
ripe
project
at
eight
Murray
Street,
which
impacted
six
and
ten.
M
The
big
fire
that
happened
about
a
year
ago,
I
happen
to
see
work
being
done
on
the
shelf
and,
unfortunately,
that
developer
and
I
have
had
some
contact
and
relationships
over
the
years
and
not
particularly
positive
ones.
I
said.
So.
What
are
you
doing
here?
Oh
I
bought
the
shell
in
now
doing
this
major
renovation
as
of
right.
Well
also
the
same
person.
His
workers
were
throwing
debris
from
the
third
floor
into
the
dumpster
without
a
chute
so
because
I
was
up
at
Roland
Park
walking,
my
dog
and
I
saw
all
of
this.
M
I
was
able
to
call
my
friends
at
ISD
and
said:
please
call
have
an
inspector
come
down
here
right
away
in
stop
this
practice,
but
I
knew
who
that
developer
was
I
was
familiar
with
that
address,
but
not
everybody
has
that
information.
So
I
think
this
is
something
really
basic,
that
the
city
can
do.
That
city
can
require
to
have
appropriate
signage
out
there,
and
so
frankly,
I'd
like
to
see
this.
D
M
A
K
Hello
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name-
is
Cynthia
les
Johnson
and
I'm,
representing
the
Codman
square,
neighbor
Council
I'm,
also
a
resident
of
this
community
at
81
Brent
Street
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
hosting
this
hearing
in
our
community.
It's
very
important
to
do
so.
Echoing
Devidas
points.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
Commissioner
and
ISC
for
being
here
this
evening
and
Jeff
as
well,
because
you've
been
doing
this
for
a
very
long
time.
So,
if
reciate,
all
that
you
do
I
know,
everyone
in
this
room
may
be
tired
of
hearing
about
Popeyes.
K
But
if
you
don't
mind,
I
just
want
to
briefly
share
the
community
perspective
on
how
that
process
went
about
and
just
for
the
record
we
have
as
of
right
issues
for
development
projects
and
news
projects
in
Codman
square,
but
I'm
going
to
focus
my
remarks
specifically
on
this
restaurant
that
was
proposed
in
cotton
Square
and
on
use.
As
of
right.
So
back
in
2016,
a
restaurant
was
proposed
at
570
to
576
Washington
Street.
Here's
a
fast
food
chain
establishment,
you
guys
are
familiar
with
them.
K
Codman
square
residents
were
very
concerned
about
this
proposal
because
we
have
may
fast
food
chain,
restaurants
within
four
blocks,
of
where
it
was
proposed
right
across
the
street.
We
have
one,
you
guys
know
it
as
McDonald's
right.
One
block
further
down
is
where
the
proposed
restaurant
would
have
been
and
then
four
blocks
from
that
a
KFC.
So
we
have
decades
of
experience
of
knowing
what
a
fast-food
establishment
and
our
Codman
Square
neighbor.
K
It
looks
and
feels
like,
and
so
we
issued
this
letter
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
dated
August
15
2016,
stating
that
we
did
not
want
this
establishment,
our
establishment
in
our
community
because
of
the
density,
the
congestion,
the
parking
issues,
the
double
parking
that
would
happen,
the
trash
high
traffic.
All
of
this
comes
with
that
fast
food
culture.
K
So
you
guys
know
highly
processed
foods,
a
lot
of
packaging,
a
lot
of
trash,
a
lot
of
litter
people
moving
in
and
out,
not
a
lot
of
sit-down
going
on
and
again,
we
feel
like
the
experts,
because
we've
been
in
this
neighborhood
for
decades,
with
two
within
four
blocks
of
the
restaurant.
That
was
proposed.
The
reason
why
this
restaurant,
it
is
Popeyes
had
to
go
before
the
Zoning
Board
is
because
they
were
saying
that
they
needed
an
extreme
amount
of
takeout,
because
that's
what
fast-food
chains
are.
K
They
are
takeout
establishments,
it's
fast,
it's
quick,
its
takeout,
and
luckily,
after
issuing
this
letter
and
hearing
all
of
the
opposition
from
the
neighborhood,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
denied
this
application
with
prejudice.
So
we
were
like
wow.
This
is
great
community
process
at
its
best
residents
did
their
job.
This
is
amazing.
Everything
will
be
great
moving
forward
because
I
didn't
even
mention
all
the
health
implications
right.
The
health
inequities
in
this
neighborhood
obesity,
diabetes,
type
2,
we're
bombarded.
We
have
enough.
Our
neighborhood
cannot
handle
anymore.
We
cannot
handle
another
chain.
K
Unfortunately,
after
that
decision,
the
applicant
then
went
back
to
ISD
altered
their
applications.
Slightly
said
that
they
would
have
less
takeout
than
we
all
know
that
they
actually
would
because
we're
very
experienced
with
fast-food
chains
like
it
in
our
neighborhood
and
then,
of
course,
it
was
issued
the
permit
as
of
right
so
hearing
the
chain
of
events.
It's
just
very
frustrating
for
us,
because
our
understanding
is
that
the
intent
of
the
zoning
code
is
to
protect
our
neighborhood
from
development
or
uses
that
aren't
harmonious
with
our
neighborhood
and
I.
K
Understand
that
maybe
the
zoning
code
might
be
outdated
and
they
can't
keep
up
with
our
changing
neighborhood,
because
it's
changing
so
fast.
But
at
the
same
time
we
understand
our
neighborhood.
We
live
in
our
neighborhood
and
we
know
that
we
could
not
handle
or
sustain
this
proposed
chain,
which
would
then
have
us
with
three
fast-food
establishments
within
four
blocks.
And
when
you
leave
here,
please
drive
down
Washington
Street
and
see
it
for
yourself.
We
could
not
handle
it,
and
so
that
is
our
frustration.
K
We
can't
have
of
right
projects
just
because
the
zoning,
so
the
zoning
code
says
that
we
can,
because
the
intent
of
the
zoning
code
is
to
make
sure
that
whatever
is
allowed
as
of
right
in
our
neighborhood,
is
still
harmonious
with
the
neighborhood,
and
so
the
many
projects
that
you're
hearing
about,
and
especially
this
one
is
a
perfect
example
of
how
it
just
isn't
working.
It
does
not
work
for
our
community.
So
my
question
is:
how
do
we
straight
stay
true
to
the
intent
of
the
zoning
code?
K
How
do
we
figure
out
next
steps
that
will
actually
carry
out
decisions
as
of
right
projects
that
are
not
detrimental
to
the
public
welfare
of
the
communities
and
are
harmonious
with
the
neighborhood
I've
heard
tonight
that
we
might
need
to
change
the
zoning
code?
Yes,
that's
a
long
and
tedious
process
and
we
think
that's
a
great
idea.
We
need
to
update
it
and
modernize
it
for
2018
and
for
neighborhoods
like
ours,
but
we
also
need
to
think
about
permit
applications.
K
As
stated
in
the
zoning
code,
zoning
board
heard
that
loud
and
clear,
but
then
somehow
you
could
alter
your
application
just
slightly
and
it's
not
realistic,
fast
food
chain,
culture
type
establishments
like
the
one
that
was
proposed
there
would
be
that,
regardless
of
what
they
apply
for
and
what
they
say,
it
will
be,
and
so
in
those
situations,
I
think
we
can
act
a
little
bit
faster
than
having
to
wait
for
the
long,
tedious
process
of
updating
and
modernizing
our
zoning
code.
Those
are
my
remarks.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention
appreciate
it.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Sean
wheeler
I
live
at
75
Ocean
Street
I
speak
a
little
bit
of
a
disadvantage
here
because
ya
know:
I,
don't
represent
an
organization
I'm
speaking
as
a
neighbor
who's
concerned,
primarily
about
housing
policy.
So
I
appreciate
your
time,
so
I
come
here,
understanding
that
the
outcome
for
this
is
not
supported
by
the
community
I'd
like
to
share
my
understanding
of
the
advantages
of
by
right
zoning
and
suggests
that
maybe
to
get
the
outcome
that
the
community
wants,
it's
not
necessary
to.
N
You
know
to
change
the
availability
of
Esav
right
zoning,
but
perhaps
there's
there's
other
remediations
one
that
comes
to
mind,
for
example,
in
the
new
zoning
for
marijuana
dispensaries.
There's
provisions
for
having
you
know,
stores
being
spaced
out
so
such
that
this
school
can
such
that
a
neighborhood
can
handle
it
and
I
think
it's
somewhat
analogous
to
this
fast-food
situation
and
that
you
know,
perhaps
we
want
to
think
about
using
other
aspects
of
zoning
instead
of
this.
As
of
right
zoning,
the
reason
I
came
is
because
the
scope
seemed
very
large.
N
I
was
a
bit
worried
that
people
would
be
proposing
that
everything
turned
you
know
didn't
turn
into
a
case-by-case
evaluation,
which
I
would
have
very
strong
feelings
that
that
would
be
a
disaster
in
terms
of
positive
aspects
of
as
of
right
zoning.
It
can
help
bring
the
kinds
of
businesses
the
community
want.
You
know
someone
coming
in
to
cod.
Taqaddum
square
would
see.
Ok,
there
is
a
restaurant
here.
We
know
that
we
kind
of
have
a
fast-track
because
we're
restaurant
to
you
know
if
everything
was
by
right.
N
There
would
be
a
lot
more,
at
least
in
efficiency,
and
possibly
some
businesses
would
not
show
up
that.
We
would
want
to
show
up.
It
helps
limit
development
cost
and
that's
the
necessary
condition
if
we
want
to
keep
housing
cost
low
in
the
neighborhood.
The
more
time
that
someone
has
to
spend
with
attorneys,
presenting
to
City
Council
that
the
higher
the
costs
become
for
housing,
and
that's
something
that
I
think
is
important
to
call
out
the
negative
aspects.
N
The
if
we
actually
were
to
drastically
could
tell
as
a
right
zoning
my
worries
that
every
change
would
because
subject
to
community
input
and
I,
don't
know
about
you,
but
I
feel
like
I,
spend
far
too
much
time,
but
community
meetings
anyway,
so
streamlined
processes
makes
sense.
I
am
going
to
highlight
I
set
a
timer
here,
but
I
would
like
to
highlight
one
thing
that
I'm
not
satisfied
with
as
a
bad
for
as
of
right.
Zoning.
Excuse
me
as
of
right
development.
You
know,
as
a
ride
is
only
as
good
as
our
zoning
code.
N
So
one
thing
that
we
see
now
is
that
this
as
a
right
development
combined
with
low
density
combined
with
high
demand,
is
a
recipe
for
a
displacement
in
Dorchester.
When
what
happens
is
that
the
community
gets
input
on
new
buildings
that
are
coming
in,
but
loses
sight
that
new
buildings
are
adding
new
units
they're,
adding
new,
affordable
housing
by
right
development
means,
for
example,
there's
an
11
unit
building
by
Ashmont
station
called
Ashmont
Landing
that
was
simply
bought.
Rehabbed
and
new
residents
came
in.
There
were
no
additional
spaces
for
new
people.
N
There
were
no
additional
affordable
development
units,
affordable
units,
so
that
was
a
net
loss.
I,
don't
blame
as
a
right
development
for
that,
but
it
reflects
you
know
there
was
a
missed
opportunity
to
have
a
discussion
for
an
apartment
building
that
would
support
growth
in
the
community
and
so
I
feel
like
that.
That's
a
bigger
piece,
but
you
know
one
that
I
would
like
to
call
out
the
meeting.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
D
Because
we
understand
the
economic
impact,
you
talk
about
streamlining
zoning.
You
know
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
when
mayor
Washington
was
was
made.
Mayor
was
try
to
look
at
some
some
of
the
simplistic
things
that
don't
make
sense.
He
was
an
app
calorie
proposed
on
Newbury
Street
on
one
corner
and
it
had
lived
across
the
street
for
about
a
hundred
years.
The
park
gallery
when
it
moved
across
the
street.
It
was
a
forbidden
use.
D
We
couldn't
understand
why
I
mean
you
know.
An
art
gallery
would
not
be
appropriate
on
Newbury
Street
in
Boston.
In
the
conversation
again
I
share
a
constable.
It
was
a
bigger
issue.
I
can't
understand
why
any
business
area
in
our
entire
city
shouldn't
support
an
art
gallery.
So
we
addressed
a
lot
of
those
kinds
of
things.
There
was
bakeries
with
fitness
centers
at
one
point,
fences
weren't
even
allowed
because
the
zoning
didn't
speak
to
it.
So
we
are
trying
to
address
a
lot
of
these
things.
I
mean
we've
got.
D
You
know
30
40
years
of
zoning.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
and
dealt
with
and
we're
trying
to
look
at
that.
So
we
are
open
to
suggestions.
We
are
open
to
discussions.
The
councillors
have
done
a
tremendous
job
of
holding
us
the
task,
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
really
paramount
in
in
their
different
districts
and
citywide.
So
you
know
I,
don't
want
us
to
sound
like
we're
saying:
no,
no,
no,
no!
We're
just
saying
that
we
got
a
process.
We've
got
a
listen
to
the
law
and
we're
very
open
to
making
things
go
away.
D
D
You
just
said
we're
trying
to
encourage
business,
which
is
the
economic
base
for
residential
and
you
need
as
much
residential
as
you
do
business
to
support
each
other,
and
so
we
tried
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
these
issues
to
try
to
get
them
out
of
out-of-the-way.
Zoning
change
is
a
very
big
thing.
It
really
is.
D
We
just
finished
the
total
zoning
change
in
South
Boston
and
it
was
totally
supported
by
the
neighborhood
until
it
was
enacted
and
now
we're
into
an
iPod
for
the
second
year,
because
people
really
don't
think
they
like
the
new
zoning
I.
Personally,
you
know
I'm
an
architect
other
than
business
in
the
city
of
Boston
for
30
years,
I
think
the
zoning
itself
Boston's
tremendous
zoning
I
think
it
preserves
neighborhoods.
It
identifies
growth
zones
and
districts
in
a
way
that
is
not
counter
intuitive
to
creating
stronger
communities.
D
It
just
takes
time,
but
you
know
we
continue
to
want
to
work
with
neighborhood
people
with
with
the
council
to
try
to
improve
on
these
things.
So
we
listen
to
everything.
You're
saying
you
know,
I'm
not
gonna,
argue
any
of
the
points,
they're
all
good
points
and
there's
a
lot
of
them
there
that
we've
been
talking
about.
Sometimes
it's
just
a
hurdle
of
process
and
we're
trying
to
address
that
great.
B
Just
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
suggestions
that
were
brought
up
by
folks
who
testified
so
if,
when
it
comes
to
notification
in
right
now,
ons,
for
example,
they
go
out
and
they
flyer
it
sounds
like
we
could
change
that.
And
actually
you
mail
those
units
instead
of
flyering,
for
example,
and
possibly
even
do
it
do
the
notifications
in
different
languages
and
I'm,
saying
that's
because
I
know,
for
example,
for
some
of
the
great
some
good
developers
they
won't
go
through.
B
Ons
they've
actually
come
to
our
office
and
worked
with
us
directly
to
do
their
own
flyering
and
to
do
the
notifications
in
different
languages
to
ensure
that
not
only
owners
of
record
get
the
notification,
but
that
the
tenants
who
live
in
the
in
the
units
also
get
notification.
And
then
we
see
that
the
participation
at
a
community
meeting
with
respect
to
proposed
project
is
more
well
attended.
D
To
sound
negative,
what
language
do
we
may
in
your
house?
What
person
do
we
mail
it
to
in
your
house?
We
see
so
many
even
the
registered
letters
we
send
out
about
zoning
issues.
People
say
we
never
got
it.
We
never
thought.
Oh
and
we've
got
the
return
receipt,
so
I
mean
I.
Think
well.
Mailing
to
me
is
not
the
real
answer.
I
truly,
don't
sign.
Is
there
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
B
That's
something
that
we
could
do
in
the
city
of
Boston,
yeah
and
I'm
gonna
push
back
on
the
language
and
a
notification,
because
that
does
have
a
good
response.
If
someone
receives
it
via
mail
and
then
they
don't
show
up,
but
they
say
we
didn't
know
about
it,
then
that's
different
right
now,
though,
use
I
use
the
example
of
the
ocean
street.
If
we're
sending
it
to
an
owner
who
is
receiving
it
in
Milton,
for
example,
but
the
person
who's
actually
a
butter
living
at
Ocean,
Street
in
Dorchester,
isn't
receiving
the
mailing.
B
Then
how
can
we
make
sure
that
the
folks
who
were
there
in
the
community
received
the
mailing
I'd
love
to
continue
conversations
about
how
we
can
change
something
like
that
sign?
It's
great
going
to
a
point
that
Rick
made
in
terms
of
the
notices
going
out
to
say
the
herald,
for
example,
but
the
previous
practice
which
I
didn't
know
about
I.
Guess
there
was
an
email
that
went
out
to
different
community
Ward's
or
neighborhoods.
D
D
Public
meeting
laws,
but
but
we
can,
we
can
obviously
talk
to
OH&S
about
doors.
I
mean
I.
Isd
is
not
the
mecca
for
the
distribution
of
data.
We
have
other
things
that
are
our
primary
responsibility.
We
do
peruse
the
lists.
We
absolutely
do
because
we
have
to
because
we,
you
know
it's
part
of
our
responsibility.
This.
B
Is
helpful,
another
question
I
had
was
just
building
off
a
point:
I
think
that
Cynthia
was
making
and
that
others
have
made
to
some
of
them
who
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
which
is
a
community
that
is
working
towards
certain
goals
within
their
own
community.
So,
for
example,
I'll
use
fast-food
since
that's
the
topic
of
tonight,
a
community
that
is
working
hard
to
ensure
that
their
main
business
district
is
an
overwhelmed,
would
say,
fast-food
restaurants
or
overwhelming
amount
of
the
same
type
of
business.
So
we've
also
heard
I.
B
D
Was
at
Cynthia's
meeting
a
couple
to
talk
specifically
about
Popeyes
and
I
I
use
the
analogy
of
Burger
King,
because
I
didn't
want
to
keep
talking
about
Popeyes
you
can
in
zoning.
You
cannot
say
we
do
not
want
Burger
King
you'll
end
up
in
court
in
a
heartbeat,
but
you
can
write
zoning
around.
We
don't
want
Drive
ups,
we
don't
want
fast
foods,
you
got
to
define
what
a
fast-food
is
and
stuff,
and
you
can
do
that.
But
again
it's
the
unintended
consequences.
D
So
we
stopped
Popeyes
from
coming
to
the
neighborhood.
But
if
something
like
it
comes
in
that
the
community
does
want,
do
we
rewrite
the
zoning
about
that
I
personally
get
nervous
trying
to
dictate
what
businesses
go
where
the
zoning
does
do
that
on
an
areal
basis,
business
district,
there's
commercial
districts,
industrial
districts
and
that's
the
way
that
that's
intended
to
control
I,
get
nervous
to
say
that
we
will
have
five
nail
salons
in
a
quarter
of
a
mile,
so
the
six
nail
salon
comes
in
and
wants
to
open
up.
B
Community
might
I,
don't
know,
but
I'm
only
looking
at
what?
What
are
the
options
so
I
know,
for
example,
and
other
municipalities
across
the
country,
their
councils,
their
city
councils,
have
used
legislation
or
other
ways
to
do
just
that,
go
into
a
community
and
say
what
is
it
that
this
community
wants
and
rather
than
say,
eat
healthier?
The
community
says:
yes,
we
want
to
eat
healthier,
but
we
want
and
the
only
options
that
continue
to
come
here
tend
to
be
fast
food
restaurants.
B
D
B
And
they
applied
as
of
loud
use,
yeah
and
they're
open
right
and
say
they
got
their
license.
So
I
would
love
to
hear
from
you
Commissioner,
based
on
your
years
of
experience
and
taking
considerations,
some
of
that
balancing
that
we
have
to
think
about
that
Sean
brought
up
what
tools
are
available
to
a
community
to
help
them
reach
their
goals
for
their
community,
and
that
may
mean
we
don't
want,
for
example,
a
ton
of
fast-food
restaurants.
What
tools
could
we
give
you
to
help
with
that
outside
of
saying?
B
D
O
A
Something
that
we
would
have
been
talking
about
in
Roslindale
when
a
when
a
pet
co
wanted
to
move
in
and
did
move
in,
because
it
was
as
of
right.
I
was
I,
mean
I,
don't
I
never
want
to
cheer
when
a
business
goes
out
of
business,
but
Petco
was
fought
so
hard
by
the
community,
and
now
they
just
left,
because
there
were
several
great
local
pet
stores
in
the
area
that
people
chose
to
support
instead
of
Petco,
and
you
could
argue
that
you
know
let
the
market
run
its
course,
but
we
also
would
have
loved.
A
We
knew
Petco,
wasn't
the
business
that
people
wanted
there
and
and
we
wanted
to
support
the
local
ones,
and
we
would
have
loved
to
have
a
different
local
business
owned
by
someone
locally
there.
So
a
formula
retail
ordinance
that
some
other
cities
have
enacted
would
essentially
say
if
you
are
a
chain,
a
national
chain
and
they
define
it
as
if
you
have
a
certain
number
of
locations
across
the
country.
A
If
you
have
uniform
packaging-
or
you
know,
everything
is
sort
of
in
a
formula
standardized-
you
essentially
identified
as
a
chain,
then
it's
conditional
in
the
zoning
code
is
what
other
communities
have
done.
So
there
might
be
a
community
that
does
want
Starbucks,
but
they
don't
want
Popeyes
right
or
they
might
want
CVS,
but
not
something
a
fast-food.
But
when
it's
conditional
it
does
allow
the
community
to
have
that
input.
G
G
D
A
Okay,
so
we
have
another:
oh
I,
also
just
wanted
to
recognize.
Joel
well
has
been
in
the
room.
I
was
he's
representing
both
himself
as
resident,
I'm
sure,
but
also
fills
the
office
of
counselor
Lydia
edwards.
So
thank
you
to
counter
Edwards
for
having
staff
in
the
room.
So
we
have
another
round
of
public
testimony,
I'd
like
to
invite
up
Jeanine
Barry,
Victor,
Rodriguez,
Stephen,
Godfrey
and
Vivian
Gerard.
O
No
one
was
notified
until
they
started
construction.
The
day
before
we
saw
the
permit,
so
we
can't
park
here
and
so
they've
been
out.
They
ring
the
doorbell
if
they
can't
get
their
construction
trucks
up
the
street,
we
have
to
move
our
cars
for
them.
They
it's
it's
it's
a
terrible
situation,
but
there
was
nothing
we
could
do
about
it.
There
was
nothing
I
representatives
could
do
about
it.
The
mayor
couldn't
do
anything
about
it
all
because
it
was
has
a
break
right.
D
D
O
O
O
And
that's
that
one
dude
go
through
and
they
lied
about
that
to
begin
with,
so
there
was
a
long
process,
but
they
did
they
didn't
notice.
Anyone
in
the
neighborhood
they
had
a
meeting
the
day
before
they
started
construction.
That
was
the
day
they
notified
some
abutters.
All
about
is,
would
never
notified
they've
been
blasting
for
months
and
months.
It.
O
O
O
Was
nothing
we
could
do
about
it?
We
tried
every
community
group.
Every
representative
tried
to
you
know,
come
help
us
out
and
nobody
could
had
any
legal
way
of
stopping
it.
So
I
just
think
that
they
really
need
to
think
about
changing
the
way
things
go,
because
the
whole
community
was
against
it
and
we
just
couldn't
do
anything
so
I
think
that
they
just
need
to.
There
has
to
be
a
change
for
this
as
of
right.
G
H
Good
evening
everybody
hi,
my
name
is
Victor
Rodriguez
and
remember.
The
common
square
navel
consult
regarding
for
Piper
I
was
supposed
from
the
beginning.
The
reason
why
opposes
because
our
community
needs
some
healthy
food,
we
got
some
type
of
experience.
We
got
different
type
of
ailments
with
our
community,
especially
with
the
elders
I
found
out
through
Popeye,
because
I
think
yourself,
they
came
out
was,
but
they
found
a
rule
this
anyway.
H
G
A
F
Yes,
good
evening,
City,
Council
and
Zoning
experts,
we
appreciate
your
bringing
the
conversation
to
the
neighborhood
I,
wanted
to
speak
of
a
specific
case
that
we
still
don't
ever
women
to
receive
a
Virgo
response
about
it.
I
live
sorry,
I'm,
Vivian
Jia,
by
the
way
when
I
live
on
at
34,
did
Sun
Street
in
fees
corner
and
also
a
president,
be
a
fist
corner
of
Civic
Association
and
yeah.
F
Addition
that's
as
big
as
the
original
triple
decker
and
the
land
when
it
was
pretty
much
donated
by
the
city
under
the
condition
that
it
was
available
and
I
live
a
half
a
block
down
the
street
and
we
never
received
any
notification
or
anything.
The
the
yeah.
That
issue
looks
small
on
paper.
It's
actually
quite
big
and.
F
So
yeah
there
was
the
this
already
set
a
precedent
because
the
same
block
alone
on
Westville
there
was
five
Lots
with
the
same
or
a
strict
did
five
vacant
lots
at
work
given
away
by
the
city
is
supposed
to
remain
open
space.
So
now
it's
seem
like
they
can
just
do
the
same
and
keep
on
building.
So
the
president
is
there
and
then
the
other
issue
is
the
developer
purchase.
The
215
was
real
Street
for
$500,000
for
three
units
and
then,
after
doing
the
construction
for
the
past
year.
F
Now
each
unit
is
for
sale
for
625,000,
so
they
displace
the
people
or
quadruple
play.
The
the
price
of
the
units
have
been
very
disrespectful
and
uncommunicative.
So
I
want
you
to
know
what
I'd
like
to
know.
What's
the
what's
the
threshold
to
get
like
at
least
neighborhood
notification,
when
a
developer
wants
to
build
again
a
3,000
square
foot
addition-
and
we
didn't
even
know
about
it
until
we
saw
it
going
up.
F
So
that's
my
question
and
also,
if
I
cannot
recall
a
more
general
comment
where
this
big
issue
in
Dorchester
and
fist
corner
in
particular,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
very
careless
and
greedy
landlord
Avella
powers.
They
have
no
knowledge
of
no
curiosity,
no
interest
in
the
community
so
just
come
to
do
a
a
quick
flip.
Just
like
this
one
quadruple
the
place
or
the
price
of
the
property
displaced.
Tenants.
That's
a
that's
a
major
issue,
so
this
is
more
like
for
the
City
Council.
F
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
Teresa
Ladson
and
I
live
on
Greenbrier
Street
and
when
I
built,
my
house
I
had
as
of
right
and
soon
as
I
put
my
foundation
in
the
community
called
me
and
said:
I
needed
to
come
to
a
meeting
in
the
city
said
to
me:
let's
be
a
good
neighbor
and
go
to
that
meeting,
even
though
you
have
as
of
right
so
I
think
that
everyone
should
be
a
good
neighbor.
I
think
that
pop
I
should
have
came
back
to
the
community
and
said
we
got
our
permit
and
we
changed
it.
I
I
think
this
is
BS
when
you
get
down
to
it
and
was
saying
we
don't
have
to
do
this.
If
I
had
to
do
it
and
I
had
as
of
right
and
I'm
a
resident
I'm,
not
even
a
business
person,
when
do
we
make
the
businesses
be
accountable
to
us
and
I
like
what
this
young
lady
said,
it's
not
harmonious
with
our
community.
We
have
obesity,
we
have
diabetes,
we
have
high
blood
pressure
and
heart
attacks.
I
Here
we
don't
need
another
fast-food
restaurant
in
I'm
beside
myself,
because
how
can
you
guys
not
listen
to
us
and
so
now
you
get
down
in
the
guy.
He
has
how
other
woman
has
already
built
the
business
they're
losing
money,
because
they've
already
built
the
business,
and
we
said
we
didn't
want
it
in
the
first
place
so
like
he
said,
I,
don't
even
see
them
now.
Why
would
we
not
do
the
license?
I
First
then,
do
the
permit
so
that
we
know
if
they're,
going
to
even
be
a
good
crew
for
the
license,
but
I
just
think
it's
BS
when
you
say
a
business
does
not
have
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
you
say
to
me:
a
resident
I
have
to
be
a
good,
neighbor
and
I
think
we
have
to
change
it.
We
have
to
change
it.
D
And
you
did
the
right
thing
and
we
advocate
all
the
time
that
people
do
the
right
thing,
but
a
Nazarite
project
has
no
law
that
forces
it
there's
no
ordinances
about
good
behavior
of
good
neighbors,
and
we
advocate
all
the
time
that
people
come
back
on
any
project
that
they're
dealing
with
to
let
their
neighbors
go.
The
way
we
look
at
it
is
if
I'm
gonna
live
in
this
neighborhood,
and
the
first
thing
I
do
is
alienate
my
relationship
with
everybody.
D
I
That
we
used
to
get
the
permit
notifications
and
I
was
I'm
a
leader,
I
cheer,
United,
Neighborhood,
Association
and
I
got
those
emails
and
it
was
a
great
help
because
then
I
could
look
at
it
and
say:
okay,
this
is
coming.
This
is
going
to
directly
affect
my
community
and
what
do
I
need
to
do
and
then
I
would
call
my
constituents
and
I
would
say
what
is
it
that
we
need
to
do?
Are
we
in
agreement
with
this?
Do
you
want
me
to
write
a
letter
of
denial?
I
What
do
you
want
me
to
do
and
I
think,
even
if
we're
just
notified
that
we
know
what's
coming
into
our
community?
That
would
make
the
difference
and
I
don't
understand
why
that
stopped,
because
that's
an
email,
that's
a
quick
fix,
so
I
would
request
that
we
stock
that
again
and
I
would
request
that
the
community's
voice
is
heard.
We
are
in
Port
and
we
live
here.
Like
I
tell
everybody
at
my
meetings,
all
the
time
I
can
put
all
my
money
in
this
house
I'm
not
going
nowhere.
I
Mm-Hm
and
you
know
I
will
be
after
you
buddy.
You
know
I
Drive,
you
now
but
I'm
just
saying
we
need
to
do
some
things
differently
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
guys
for
coming
out.
I
mean
it's
a
weeknight.
You
guys
have
young
families,
but
we
got
we
have
two
and
we
need
our
voice
needs
to
be
heard
and
it
drives
me
crazy.
I
I
Don't
know
how
we
fix
it,
but
we
need
to
fix
it,
and
even
if
it's
just
a
simple
email
that
so
that
the
community
knows
in
advance
what's
coming
in
and
then
we
can
notify
whoever
it
is
that
we
need
to
notify,
but
we
have
to
do
things
differently.
This
is
a
mess
and
now
in
that
person
and
what
Andrew
you're
kind
of
mixed,
because
now
they've
got
that
building
up
there
and
they're
not
making
any
money
and
in
one
way
they
deserve
it,
because
they
should
listen
to
us.
I
P
Hi,
my
name
is
Louisa
Birken
I
live
in
a
community,
I
run
the
west
of
Washington,
the
Wow
coalition.
We
handle
streets
down
on
Noor,
Wall,
Street,
Millett,
Park,
Spencer,
Thames
wheel
in
and
after
Wall
Street.
My
question
is
today:
is
there
any
way
to
put
like
an
addendum
on
this?
We've
had
a
lot
of
development
within
our
own
community
and
fortunate
for
us.
We've
had
socially
responsible
developers,
we
haven't
had
people
just
coming
in
just
doing
whatever
they
want.
P
We've
only
been
dealing
with
one
developer
well
to
the
city
of
Boston
Oxbow,
and
then
we've
been
dealing
with
mr.
Travis
Lee,
and
they
have
both
been
very
good
to
us.
They
have
both
come
out
whenever
there
was
a
denial
they
always
came
out,
but
I
just
think
that
it's
morally,
that
that's
just
who
they
are
as
a
company
and
they
want
to
make
sure
that
they
look
well
in
the
eyes
of
the
community
and
they
are
participating
into
what
the
community
wants.
P
We
did
ask
for
affordable
housing
when
he
came
and
he
wanted
to
build
a
six
family
house.
We
asked
for
him
to
make
sure
that
we
get
at
least
two
of
those
units
at
an
affordable
price
for
our
people.
That's
in
the
community
for
what
you
guys
say
is
a
affordable
price.
You
know
60,000
a
year,
I'm,
not
sure
I,
don't
make
that
you
know
so
I'm,
not
sure
who
makes
that
a
living
around
me
but
I'm
sure.
P
There's
somebody
cuz,
you
guys
saying
that's
the
median,
but
he
was
very,
very
good
about
coming
in
whenever
he
got
a
denial
he
would
come
in
and
he
would
let
us
know
so.
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
like
an
addendum
or
something
that
you
can
put
out
there
for
the
developers
to
sign
that
say:
they're
gonna
be
socially
responsible.
They
will
listen
to
the
community
and
take
all
those
things
into
it.
I
mean
it's
all
nice
to
say
yeah.
P
We
will
do
that,
but
if
you
actually
have
to
sign
something
that
holds
and
bind
you
to
that,
then
maybe
that
will
be
a
little
bit
better
for
the
community
and
then
the
community
will
feel
like
their
voices
are
actually
being
heard.
I
mean
as
an
african-american
woman
living
in
the
city
of
Boston,
we
always
feel
like
our
voices
are
not
being
heard.
P
So
when
you
guys
decided
or
Popeye's
decided
to
come
in
the
community,
decide
they
didn't
want
it
and
just
because
they
change
one
word
or
two
words
on
the
application
that
doesn't
make
it
okay
for
them
to
still
be
here,
especially
when
door
truss
is
considered
a
food
desert.
We
have
nowhere
to
eat
here,
pizza
and
subs,
nail
shops
and
barber
shops.
That's
all
we
have
so
it's
like
if
we
can
get
better
options,
things
that
the
community
may
want.
P
Besides
these
everyday
regular
things,
I,
don't
see,
Popeyes
going
down,
seaport
I,
don't
see
them
going
down
south
in.
But
why
are
you
trying
to
come
here?
You
know
what
I
mean
like,
so
it's
like
I
think
that
these
companies
and
these
developers
need
to
be
able
to
sign
something
that
holds
and
by
them
to
be
a
socially
responsible
to
what
the
community
wants.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
They
are
trying
to
just
jam
development
in
there
and
the
community
has
stated
time
again
time
and
time
again
that
we
need
to
balance
that
we
need
green
space.
We
can't
just
because
I
should
note
that
Roxbury
has
the
most
buildable
Lots,
that's
remaining
across
the
city,
so
all
eyes
have
been
focused
on
Roxbury
and
we
do
want
development,
but
we
want
equitable
development.
We
want
inclusive
development.
We
want
development,
that's
not
going
to
exacerbate
some
of
the
health
concerns
that
we've
talked
about
this
evening.
We
want
a
development
that
doesn't
displace
people.
Q
We
want
development
that
is
done
in
a
way,
that's
fair
and
that
listens
to
the
people
that
are
currently
there,
not
just
for
the
people
that
you
are
hoping
to
move
into
the
community.
So
I
would
ask
that
we
look
at
zoning
laws
because
I
know
there
there's
one
parcel
and
it's
the
Rio
Grande,
and
that
would
mean
that
we
are
looking
to
have
a
downtown
size.
Building
in
Dudley
square
and
I
know.
Q
Q
So
it
seems
like
you're
taking
away
the
voice
of
the
community,
because
we've
already
had
a
mass
stureplan
I
was
a
part
of
that
master
plan,
some
20
odd
years
ago,
under
David
Lee,
when
they
were
putting
together
that
plan,
and
now
here
we
are
looking
to
execute
that
plan.
So
to
take
the
the
power
away
from
the
community
allows
for
things
to
happen
like
a
Popeye
and
like
other
development
that
you
don't
want
to
see
when
you,
you
Institute
a
plan
within
an
existing
plan
that
already
had
community
input.
Q
So
I
would
just
ask
that
we
look
at
the
zoning
laws.
We
look
at
how
we
plan
neighborhoods
in
a
cohesive
way.
We
look
at
the
commercial
districts
and
you
know
you
should
plan
in
a
way
that
you
put
in
cluster
businesses
so
that
the
businesses
that
are
there
can
support
each
other
they're,
not
all
the
same
type
that
are
inundating
just
one
area
and
we
understand
particularly
for
minority-owned
businesses,
to
open
a
barber
shop
or
a
hair
salon.
Q
Q
R
I
am
Andrew
sharp
I'm,
so
glad
I
came
here.
How
I've
heard
about
these
thanks
Andrea
for
the
Twitter
and
the
stuff,
so
we
got
to
look
at
the
way
we
communicate
now
it's
21st
century,
so
I
agree
with
how
what
you
said
about
getting
the
information
out
just
like
what
you
did
post
on
Twitter
post
on
Facebook.
So
we're
going
to
look
at
that
way
in
which
one
of
the
things
I
would
love
to
see
for
the
development
we're
not
looking
about
yields.
R
We
want
to
get
them
out
of
the
crime
and
stuff,
but
I
don't
see
any
facilities
sports
facility,
those
kind
of
stuff.
So
if
we
can
look
at
development
that
is
focused
on
the
youth,
also
we
need
I
would
love
to
see.
Boston
has
training
for
for
for
youths
like
micro
bein
people
used
to
to
become
my
Usain
Bolt's
and
those
kind
of
stuff.
R
G
A
Then,
at
this
point,
I'll
leave
room
for
any
of
our
panelists
or
the
council
president
for
if
they
wish
to
make
any
closing
statement,
but
I'll
just
say
on
from
my
part
as
committee
chair,
my
obligation
or
my
commitment
is
that
I
think
there
are
some
follow-up
pieces
from
here.
It
sounds
like
there's
a
whole
couple
different
tracks.
One
is
that
there
are
some
communities
that
do
want
to
propose
zoning
changes
either
to
streamline
for
uses
that
they
do
want
to
see
and
exclude
others
that
they
don't
want
to
see
that'll
be
a
longer
process.
A
But
then
there
are
also
some
recommendations.
Just
on
the
notification
which
are
squarely
within
our
jurisdiction
to
change.
Do
we
post
things
online
to
expand
the
radius,
so
the
committee
will
put
together
will
work
with
the
sponsor
and
colleagues
to
put
together
a
list
of
recommendations
based
on
what
we
heard
tonight.
Maybe
we'll
have
another
working
session
or
so
to
collect
more
and
add
that
and
then
we'll
sort
of
formalize
that
list
and
then
run
it
back
through
the
administration
to
see
what's
possible
to
take
off
quickly.
What
might
take
more
time?
A
B
Thank
You
councillor
Wu,
and
thank
you
guys
for
being
here.
It's
warm
and
we
don't
have
water
for
you.
So
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
are
here
and
that
you
did
in
the
evening
and
came
into
community
I,
really
appreciate
it.
I
mean
thank
you
to
the
residents
for
coming.
I,
see
a
lot
of
my
district
for
residents.
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
being
here
and
offering
your
perspectives,
which
aren't
all
the
same,
which
is
awesome.
You
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
conversation
that
we
require.
B
The
requires
balance
and
striking
a
balance
and
striking
compromise.
But
what's
most
important
is
that
we
all
we
hear
from
each
and
every
one
of
you
your
concerns,
as
it
relates
not
just
as
a
right
development
projects,
notifications,
your
suggestions,
but
also
what
you're
feeling
there
was
a
lot
of
frustration
around
the
pup
by
situation,
the
Taco
Bell's
situation
in
Roslindale.
B
So
my
goal
is
to
take
that
frustration
and
channel
it
into
some
solutions
and
ideas
so
that
we
don't
have
the
same
problems
show
up
in
a
month
or
two
months
or
a
year,
so
I'm
gonna
work
with
councilor
Wu
as
well
as
some
of
my
other
colleagues
on
some
solutions.
I
think
some
are
short-term
and
things
we
can
do
in
the
immediate
and
then
others
I
think
a
more
long-term
and
I
will
lean
on
the
expertise
of
folks
who
have
been
doing
zoning
for
a
long
time.
B
This
is
not
an
easy,
an
easy
issue
to
tackle
when
you
talk
about
changing
the
zoning
code,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
us
engaging
with
the
State
House
and
in
requiring
and
asking
them
to
show
up
on
this
too.
So
it's
not
everything
is
not
directly
within
our
control,
but
we'll
continue
conversations
I.
Think
a
working
session
is
the
next
step.
B
I
will
also
add
that
councilor
Edwards
also
had
some
questions
around
zoning,
specifically
variances
and
the
standards
for
approving
those,
and
we
answered
some
of
that,
but
there's
still
some
more
to
be
answered
which
we
can
do
in
a
working
session,
and
there
was
also
some
questions
around
enforcing
once
a
Nazarite
project
is
constructed
and
in
operating,
how
do
we
enforce
the
requirements
that
they
had?
He?
How
do
we
force
the
requirements
that
they
said
that
they
were
going
to
adhere
to?
So
those
were
questions.
B
We
can
also
ask
in
the
working
session,
but
this
is
not
a
conversation
that
we
will
in
tonight.
Thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
we
will
let
you
know
when
the
working
session
will
be
scheduled
as
the
second
part
of
this
conversation.
So
thank
you
again
get
home
safely
and
thank
you,
Council
woo.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
central
staff.
It
takes
a
staff
to
actually
set
up
in
a
community
to
do
a
City
Council
hearing
and
to
follow
all
of
our
laws
and
regulations.