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Docket #0362- Hearing regarding existing residential unit diversity across Boston
A
Crowds
are
friends
here,
that's
good!
I
always
feel
better
when
there's
at
least
three
of
us.
You
know
you
at
least
want
to
make
the
day
you
at
least
want
to
have
like
we
got
at
least
get
over
the
open
meeting,
lock
threshold.
So
it's
worth
it
for
the
world
to
see.
Are
you
okay
with
getting
started?
I
oh
yeah
more
than
okay,
all
right,
then,
so
I'm
just
going
to
do
the
opening
remarks
good
morning.
My
name
excuse
me
good
afternoon.
A
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
0362
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
existing
residential
unit
diversity
across
boston,
no
matter
responsible,
counselor
savvy
george
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
february
24th,
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
counselor
sabi
george
lead
sponsor
and
counselor
flynn
from
district
2.,
I'm
going
to
basically
turn
it
over
to
the
lead
sponsor.
Who
could
do
some
brief
opening
remarks
and
counselor
flynn,
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
feel
free,
but
joining
us
here
from
the
administration?
A
Is
tim
davis,
deputy
director
of
dnd
amelia
najar,
who
will
be?
Who
is
the
senior
research
and
development
analyst
at
dnd,
joel
wolf,
special
advisor
for
policy
of
boston
housing
authority,
david
gleich,
chief
officer
of
leased
housing
programs
at
boston,
housing
authority,
michelle
mccarthy,
health
and
policy
manager
at
boston,
bpda
and
lizzie
torres
housing
policy
analyst
at
bpda?
B
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
I
filed
this
hearing
to
this
hearing
order
to
give
us
an
opportunity
to
assess
our
existing
housing
stock.
We
all
know
that
that
we
need
more
family-sized,
affordable
housing
in
the
city
to
stem
the
tide
of
family
homelessness,
but
it's
been
a
challenge
to
ascertain
what
family-sized
units
exist
and
where
we
need
new
units
to
be
built.
We
also
have
concentrations
of
different
kinds
of
housing,
including
low-income
housing,
sober
housing,
supportive
housing,
artists,
live
work,
spaces
and
elder
housing.
B
Some
of
our
neighborhoods
have
disproportionately
more
low-income
and
sober
housing
than
other
neighborhoods,
and
I'm
hoping
that
today
we'll
be
able
to
dig
into
why
those
disproportionate
concentrations
exist.
What
policies
we
have
in
place
or
policies
we
could
explore,
in
tandem
with
changes
to
the
idp
and
implementing
the
affirmative,
fair
housing
zoning
code
to
diversify
our
our
housing
stock.
B
I
look
forward
to
today's
presentations
and
comments
and
conversation,
especially
on
top
of
or
following
the
number
of
hearings
we
had
earlier
this
week
and
hope
you
know
through
some
of
these
conversations
and
discussions
that
we
have
a
much
broader
view
and
a
deeper
understanding
of
housing
stock
care
in
the
city
of
boston,
and
you
know
what
I
say
is
sort
of
the
work.
That's
left
undone.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
colleagues
for
joining
us
today,
as
well
as
the
administration
and
those
presenting
on
behalf
of
this
issue.
C
C
It's
easy
to
build
housing
for
for
the
wealthy.
Any
anyone
can
do
that.
But
can
we
build
housing
for
people
in
need?
That's
the
question
I
ask
is:
are
we
able
to
do
it
and
I
think
we
are,
I
think
the
city
is
doing
a
good
job.
They
see
tim
here
and
see
a
lot
of
the
advocates
in
sheila
as
well,
and
so
I
think,
we're
doing
a
good
job.
Certainly
we
can
do
more
and
that's
where
I
come
from
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
chair.
C
A
D
D
So
I'm
really
delighted
to
be
part
of
the
conversation
this
afternoon
and-
and
we
look
forward
to
probably
talking
about
this
this
again
next
tuesday,
when
we
have
our
hearing
on
the
proposed
master
plan
for
austin
brighton,
because
I
think
family
housing
has
to
be
part
of
that
conversation
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
E
Yes
good
afternoon,
thank
you
to
the
chair
and
the
sponsor
for
calling
this
hearing.
We
see
this
hearing
as
an
opportunity
to
live
up
to
our
values
of
information
justice
in
our
office.
We
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
our
constituents
have
good
access
to
information
in
order
to
push
for
systemic
change
that
we
so
badly
need.
Taking
a
closer
look
at
our
existing
residential
unit.
E
Diversity
across
boston
will
help
us
get
a
better
idea
of
where
we
need
to
push
for
more
affordable
housing,
more
income,
diverse
housing
and
more
social
housing,
especially
as
we
approach
the
budget
season.
It's
important
to
remember
that
simply
throwing
money
at
a
problem
will
not
fix
the
problems
that
exist
within
the
system.
I
look
forward
to
walking
away
from
this
hearing
better
informed
about
the
structural
changes
we
need
to
make.
Thank
you.
F
F
Thank
you,
so
I
am
tim
davis,
deputy
director
of
policy
development
research
at
the
department
of
naval
development.
Thank
you,
councillor,
sabi
george,
for
sponsoring
this
order.
Thank
you,
chairperson
edwards
mejia
flynn
and
braden
all
for
being
here
and
being
interested
in
this
topic.
I
am
going
to
keep
my
remarks
really
really
short.
I'm.
We
are
very
pleased
that
we
are
looking
at
these
issues,
especially
as
we
implement
the
new
affirmatively,
further
fair
housing,
zoning
policies,
but
also
in
our
work
more
generally
and
so
without
further
ado.
G
G
G
G
The
main
takeaway
from
the
slide
is
that
units
with
three
or
more
bedrooms
are
more
prevalent
in
ownership
housing.
When
we
look
at
all
units,
you
can
see
here
that
34
percent
have
three
or
more
bedrooms
when
we
look
at
as
a
percent
of
just
the
rental
units.
That
number
drops
a
bit
to
24
of
all
rental
units
and
then,
when
we
look
at
ownership
units,
the
number
of
three
plus
bedrooms
jumps
to
58
of
all
ownership
units.
G
Speaking
of
our
development,
we
have
this
table
shows
all
of
the
units
permitted
in
the
last
10
years.
So,
as
you
can
see,
of
all
units
most
are
in
one
and
one
and
two
bedroom
units
rental
units
skew
slightly
more
towards
the
studios
and
one
bedrooms
still
with
quite
a
few
two-bedroom
units.
Two-Bedroom
units
are
our
most
common
unit
size
throughout
the
city
and
then
ownership
skew
slightly
more
towards
two
bedrooms
and
three
plus
units.
G
G
G
G
Alston
now
we'll
move
into
housing
accessibility.
We
don't
have
specific
data
on
this,
but
looking
at
year
built
can
and
seeing
where
the
housing
stock
is.
The
oldest
can
help
us
understand
where
accessibility
issues
might
be
the
greatest,
so
this
table
is
showing
for
each
time
period.
What's
the
distribution
of
buildings
across
neighborhoods,
so,
for
example,
of
all
of
the
buildings
built
between
1940
and
1959,
we
can
see
that
most
of
them
were
built
in
hyde
park,
matapan
and
west
roxbury.
G
The
next
table
shows
a
very
clear
pattern
of
how
old
our
housing
stock
is,
so
this
is
showing
that
same
data,
but
within
each
neighborhood.
So,
for
example,
of
all
the
buildings
that
exist
in
back
bay,
you
can
see
that
62
percent
of
them
were
built
before
1900
and
another
29
were
built
before
1940.,
so
very
old
housing
stock.
We
can
also
see
that
there
are
some
standouts
here
of
neighborhoods
that
had
more
housing
stock.
That's
built
more
recently,
such
as
downtown
and
south
boston,
waterfront.
G
Now,
we'll
move
into
looking
at
our
income
restricted
housing
stock,
so
this
map
shows
the
amount
of
income
restricted
housing.
Each
neighborhood
has
as
a
percent
of
their
total
housing
stock
and
when
we're
looking
at
income
restricted
housing.
Here,
it's
all
any
any
unit
that
has
an
income
restriction,
income
restriction
on
it,
regardless
of
funding
source.
G
Then
a
subset
of
that
income
restricted
stock
are
those
that
have
section
8
funding
here,
we're
talking
about
project
based
section
8,
not
but
not
housing
vouchers.
So
the
map
here
shows
any
project
that
includes
section
8
funding
and
citywide.
There
are
well
over
19
000
units
with
section
8
funding,
which
is
35
of
all
of
the
income,
restricted
housing
and
7
of
our
total
housing
stock.
The
neighborhoods
at
the
top
of
the
table
are
ones
where
section
8
units
are
a
high
percentage
of
all
of
the
affordable
housing
in
the
neighborhood.
G
G
So
this
data
isn't
fully
coded
by
address.
Many
of
the
projects
are
scattered
sites
and
only
listed
in
the
data
that
we
have
by
administering
agency
or
organization.
So
we
don't
currently
have
address
level
data
for
66
of
this
data,
but
for
the
data
that
we
do
have,
we
know
that
seven
percent
of
of
these
permanent
supportive
housing
units
are
in
dorchester,
seven
percent
or
in
roxbury.
G
And
our
last
subset
here
is
artist
housing,
so
the
table
on
the
left
shows
all
of
our
existing
artist
units.
There
are
nearly
600
units,
total
33
of
which
are
income
restricted
of
all
of
the
artist
housing
in
the
city.
A
quarter
of
them
are
rental
units,
and
three
quarters
of
them
are
condos
or
co-ops.
G
H
I
H
A
A
A
A
C
J
I
Okay,
hopefully
this
will
give
everyone
a
little
time
to
handle
the
technical
difficulties.
I
hope
I
don't
cat.
I
hope
it's
not
catching
so.
I'm
michelle,
mccarthy,
upa
housing
policy
manager
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
chairperson
edwards
and
counselor
zobby
george
for
having
us
here
today.
I
wanted
to
talk
briefly
about
the
recent
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
amendments
to
the
boston
zoning
code
and
how
these
amendments
seek
to
enhance
diversity
in
both
who
lives
in
housing,
but
also
the
type
and
size
of
housing
across
the
city.
I
Part
of
the
affh
assessment
requires
developers
to
review
and
respond
to
a
housing
and
household
composition,
community
profile
report.
This
report
was
created
by
the
bpa's
research
and
graphic
information
system
staff,
using
primarily
american
community
survey
data,
as
well
as
some
data
about
income,
restricted
units
and
a
voucher
hold
voucher,
holding
households
provided
by
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
and
the
boston
housing
authority
respectively.
I
The
housing
and
household
community
profile
report
provides
a
great
deal
of
information
to
developers
about
the
level
of
historical
exclusion
residents
have
experienced
at
the
project
site,
as
well
as
the
size
and
type
of
heist
of
households
and
the
size
of
units
within
the
project
area.
Among
many
other
data
points
and
provides
a
comparison
to
the
city
as
a
whole.
I
It's
our
hope
that
over
time
as
developers
fulfill
their
obligations
under
ash,
we
will
see
changes
in
the
community
that
allow
everyone
to
access
the
housing
they
need
and
the
neighborhood
they
want
to
live
in.
Thank
you
again
for
having
us
here
today
to
speak
on
this
topic
and
thank
you,
counselor
asabi
george,
for
your
leadership
leadership
on
this
issue,
and
thank
you
also
to
counselors,
edward
and
bob
for
leading
the
way
on
afsh
and
shaping
that
policy
for
the
city.
B
Go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
chair.
I
have
a
quick
follow-up
question
to
the
presentation.
Amelia
gabe,
which
I
thought
was
fantastic
and
very
informative.
Great.
You
know
a
great
presentation,
sort
of
the
real
numbers
and
what
we
need
to
see
you
mentioned
on
the
sober
homes
that
there's
only
27
in
the
city
and
only
in
three
communities.
G
Yep,
that's
correct
and
sorry
about
my
connection
before
I
heard
someone
trying
to
speak
to
me
and
couldn't
respond,
but
yes,
that
is
correct.
Those
are
certified
only
although
I
did
follow
up
about
that
and
learned
that
most
of
them
most
of
the
sober
homes
in
the
city
are
certified
anyway.
So
this
is
not
cover
it's
covering
most
of
the
universe.
That's
what
I
was
told
it
sounds
like
that
might
not
be
the
case,
but.
B
That's
the
data
that
we
have
yeah
I'd
say:
that's
likely
not
the
case
based
just
to
sort
of
the
anecdotal
ones.
I
know
in
communities
that
weren't,
because
I
think
on
that
list,
if
I
remember
it
was
dorchester
boston
and
roxbury
yep,
and
you
know
there's
many
more
than
that
probably
sounds
probably
yeah
yeah
and
I
think
that
we
could
probably
go
through,
maybe
even
outside.
B
You
know
obviously
outside
of
this
hearing
and
just
go
through
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
accurate
listing
or
as
accurate
of
a
listing
as
possible,
because
that's
that's
missing
missing
a
lot
that
that's
it
and
we
don't
have
to
harp
on.
I
think
that
there
is
better
we
can
find
than
that
anyway.
So
I
am
curious,
just
sort
of
in
general,
when
a
developer
comes
to
the
table
with
a
proposal
for
our
project.
What
are
the
policies
or
considerations
that
come
into
place
to
shape
that
development?
B
Do
we
do
we
look
at
like
what
was
recently
built,
or
do
we
say?
Okay?
Well,
this
was
recently
built,
so
let's
do
some
larger
size
units
or
or
smaller
size
units,
although
I
think
you
know
in
your
presentation
and
in
the
presentation
we
see
how
many
of
the
units
are
really
on
the
smaller
side.
You
know
how
do
we,
how
do
we
determine
or
how
do
we
direct
a
developer,
to
build
more
of
a
different
type
of
housing?
I'm
really
interested
in?
I
So
that's
really
been
a
highlight
of
doing
our
ash
work,
which
really
only
was
just
implemented
on
the
15th
so
just
about
three
weeks
ago,
so
we've
been
kind
of
on
an
education
and
outreach
tour
with
the
developers
and
walking
them
through
the
housing
and
household
community
profile
report
that
I
spoke
of
and
really
highlighting.
You
know
the
elements
of
the
community
that
maybe
have
traditionally
been
overlooked.
I
You
know
looking
a
lot
at
income,
race
and
ethnicity
and
other
things
like
that,
because
they're
so
they're
interfacing
with
the
community
through
community
meetings,
but
really
highlighting
household
sizes
and
unit
sizes
and
asking
developers
to
take
a
meaningful
look
at
what
they're
seeing
in
that
report,
and
I
can
provide
a
sample
of
that
as
well
or
demonstrate
it
if
it
helps
to
provide
more
context,
but
just
asking
developers
and
highlighting
that
information
as
part
of
the
meaningful
asfh
assessment.
To
take
a
look
at
you
know.
I
What
are
your
plans
tell
us
both
what
you're
planning
and
how
and
describe
in
your
affha
responses?
How
that
meets?
The
community
need,
while
also
welcoming
in
people
who
may
have
traditionally
been
underrepresented
in
the
community,
so
that
work
is
taking
place
as
part
of
kind
of
the
overall
education
and
outreach
for
ffh.
B
Great
and
then
just
maybe
one
more
question
for
at
least
this
round
and
I'll
say
the
rest
of
my
colleagues,
amelia
talked
a
little
bit
had
one
that
one
particular
slide
on
artist
housing
across
our
city,
which
you
know
it's
great
to
see
that
there
is
some
in
the
pipeline.
It's
great
to
see
that
some
of
it
has
some
affordability
restrictions
to
it.
Do
we
have
an
idea
on
how
deep
those
affordability
restrictions
go
and
then
also
when
we're
working
on
developing
or
with
those
artists,
spaces
that
are
in
the
pipeline?
B
Are
we
looking
to
make
sure
that
it's
appropriately
built
thinking
about
the
medium?
Because-
and
you
know,
if
you're
building
a
a
development
with
20
units
in
it-
you
don't
say:
okay,
these
three
artists
live
workspaces
and
just
make
them
such
because
of
you
know,
equipment
needs.
You
know.
If
you've
got
a
kiln,
you
need
certain
it's
going
to
be
able
to
carry
a
certain
weight.
You
may
need
water
access
to
different
sinks,
and
you
know
sound
proofing.
B
If
it's
some
sort
of
performance
art
are
we
putting
those
considerations
into
place
with
the
developments
and
then
you
know
something
that
I've
heard
from
the
artist
community.
I
know
council
braden
has
heard
it
from
the
artist
community
because
we've
been
in
some
meetings
together.
I
don't
see
her
on
the
screen
anymore.
You
know
some
of
the
you
know
I
like,
when
we're
doing
whether
it's
affordable,
housing
or
sort
of
special
housing
on
site.
B
I'm
not
a
big
believer
in
doing
things
off-site,
but
certain
types
of
housing
do
need
some
unique
or
should
have
some
unique
characteristics
like
artist
housing.
Maybe
there
is
community
space.
Maybe
there
is
shared
creative
space,
so
you
know.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
explore
that?
Look
at
that,
because
that
may
be
the
better
option.
K
We
started
to
notice
that
more
of
the
artists,
liv
income
needs
were
actually
more
in
the
forty
percent
to
sixty
percent
ami
range,
so
we
have
been
trying
to
focus
on
making
sure
that
any
artist
housing
when
it's
being
requested
or
if
it's
looking
to
be
built
by
the
developer
proactively,
already
that
we
are
having
honest
discussions
about
what
kind
of
income
restrictions
are
actually
going
to
be
required
to
actually
provide
the
need
to
the
artists
who
are
currently
looking
for.
Artists
live
workspace.
K
But
we
need
to
be
more
conscious
and
understand
that
not
every
single
artist's
live
workspace
is
created
equal
and
so
making
sure
that
when
we
market
them
that
we
market
them
honestly
for
what
kinds
of
mediums
they
would
be
most
appropriate
for
and
then
right
now,
I
think
there's
just
been
a
lot
of
focus
on
making
sure
that
we're
even
providing
the
idea
when
it's
appropriate.
So
is
it
in
a
location?
K
That's
near
an
artist's
workspace
already,
or
are
we
actually
starting
to
see
a
budding
creative
community
in
that
area
right
now
that
it
would
make
more
sense
to
actually
start
building
them
in
a
new
place
where
they
aren't?
So
you
saw
that
roxbury
right
now
we
have
a
huge
artist.
You
know
community
over
there
that
has
not
been
attended
to
for
a
bit,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
them
in
the
pipeline
over
there.
K
B
C
Thank
you,
council,
edwards
and
I'm
glad
lizzie
to
know
that
you
are
working
closely
on
housing
for
the
artist
community.
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
great,
especially.
I
have
a
large
artist
community
in
in
district
2
as
well
in
the
south
end
and
the
waterfront,
and
I
know
they
add
tremendous
value
to
the
to
the
city
and
to
the
neighborhoods.
C
J
No
sir,
there's
not
a
discrepancy,
but
there
is
a
different
boundary
line
that
we're
using
the
boston.
The
department
of
neighbor
development
has
traditionally
used
what
we
call
planning
districts
as
our
boundaries,
which,
for
the
south
end,
was
really
the
south
end
bay,
village
and
lower
roxbury,
and
so
because
we
are
trying
to
unify
how
we
represent
our
data
with
the
bpda.
J
C
J
I
want
I'll
have
to
take
that
message
back
to
our
other
senior
staff,
I'm
not
on
the
development
side
of
this
picture.
We
certainly
I
mean
we're
very
pleased
with
some
of
our
recent
work
with
the
residences
of
brighton
marine,
for
example,
we're
very
pleased
with
our
work
around
vouchers
for
our
veterans
and
that
work,
but
certainly
I
will
take
that
message
back
to
the
development
side
of
our
agency.
J
C
Thank
thank
you
tim.
I
had
a
a
virtual
tour
of
brighton
marine
last
week
with
their
staff
and
the
program
and
their
housing
aspect
they
offer.
There
is
exceptional,
probably
one
of
the
best
one
of
the
best
in
the
country
and
I'd
love
to
see
about
getting
a
couple
of
those
built
throughout
the
city,
not
necessarily
my
district.
C
Although
I'd
welcome
that,
certainly
but
I'd
love
to
see
two
or
three
of
those
types
of
facilities
built
across
the
city
and
hopefully
you
know
we
can
work
together
and
maybe
trying
to
get
at
least
one
one
build
somewhere
over
the
next
year
or
two
years,
but
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
councillor
edwards
and
to
my
colleague,
councillor
isabe
george
and
the
city
administration,
and
the
advocates
as
well.
Thank
you.
E
E
You
know
I'm
just
curious
about
neighborhoods
like
chinatown,
which
have
a
higher
population
of
elders
and
yet
they're
ranked
pretty
low
on
the
list,
and
then
I'm
also
curious
about
affordable
housing
for
lgbtq
youth
and
those
who
are
aging
out
of
foster
care.
I
think
it's
a
good
way
for
us
to
think
you
know
to
think
about
the
concern
of
over
quote-unquote
family
units
being
taken
up
by
roommates,
because
a
lot
of
people,
especially
lgbtq
youth,
the
only
family
they
have
are
in
the
safe
spaces
that
they
call
home
and
family
always
is
in
blood.
E
J
E
Answer
that
sorry,
I
could.
Could
we
just
lean
in
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
further
students
out
of
foster
care,
I'm
also
concerned
and
curious
about
what
type
of
housing
we
look.
You
know
to
support
students
who
are
aging
out
of
foster
care
just
and
I'm
also
just
curious.
While
we're
talking
about
vulnerable
populations,
you
know
affordable,
is
depending
on
how
much
you
make
is
how
much
you're
able
to
afford
here
in
the
city
of
boston
and
so
looking
at
also.
E
What
are
we
doing
around
affordability
for
not
just
artists,
but
people
who,
I
would
say,
are
city
workers.
You
know
some
of
them
are
are
are
can't
even
afford
to
live
in
the
city
of
boston
and
and
some
of
them
are
living
in
apartments
with
five
or
six
other
people
just
to
be
able
to
have
a
boston
residency
so
that
they
can
stay
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
a
number
of
different
vulnerable
populations.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
that
as
well?.
J
I
would
have
to
actually
defer
to
some
of
our
other
staff
on
that.
To
maybe
get
back
to
you.
I
will
see
if
jessica
vote
right
can
join
us
to
talk
about
that
topic
now
and
if
she
can't,
we
can
certainly
have
her
follow
up
with
you
later,
because
I
don't
know
the
status
of
our
work
around
youth
aging
out
of
foster
care,
for
example,.
E
I
Great
thank
you
for
that
question.
Love
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
homeless
services
and
supporting
family
homeless
people,
since
that
was
my
the
the
career
I
transitioned
from
out
of
into
the
policy
manager
job,
so
permanent,
supportive
housing
is
basically
a
affordable
housing.
Subsidy,
that's
paired
with
supportive
services
for
people
who
are
experienced,
chronic
homelessness
and
chronic
homelessness
is
defined
as
it's
a
complex
definition,
because
it's
a
federal
definition.
I
The
services
are
targeted
towards
helping
people
who
have
had
long
experiences
in
homelessness,
be
able
to
gain
the
skills
that
they
may
be
lost,
or
never
had
in
terms
of
being
able
to
understand,
leases
understand
talking
to
a
landlord
paying
paying
utilities,
if
that's
something
that
might
be
part
of
the
housing
and
just
really
kind
of
developing,
giving
people
the
space
to
develop
the
life
skills
and
other
services
they
need
in
terms
of
mental
health.
Physical
health
substance
use
anything
like
that,
while
taking
advantage
of
the
affordable
housing
subsidy.
E
E
I've
worked
in
the
shelter
space
and
worked
with
a
lot
of
women
who
were
transitioning
out
of
shelter,
and
so
I
know
a
lot
of
effort
is
made
for
families
and
I'm
just
curious
again,
going
back
to
this
whole
notion
that
not
everybody
in
the
city
of
boston
is
part
of
a
family
unit.
Are
we
looking
at
this
from
a
diversity
and
inclusive
inclusion
of
all
the
residents
of
the
city
of
boston.
I
Yeah
so,
unlike
the
state
shelter
system
which
is
really
targeted
towards
families,
permanent
supportive
housing,
as
it's,
the
majority
of
it
is
funded
by
hud,
is
really
for
everyone,
a
lot
of
individual
homelessness
and
people
transitioning
out.
So
really
it's
it's.
Anyone
who
qualifies
under
the
the
hud
rules,
regardless
of
household
size,
so
they
regard
a
household
as
being
as
small
as
one
to
you
know
as
many
people
as
exist
in
the
household.
A
Thank
you.
I
just
had
some
quick
comments
and
then
we'll
go
into
the
second
round,
but
I
well.
First
of
all,
I
really
appreciate
the
comprehensive
view
of
the
housing
stock.
I
don't
think
in
all
the
hearings.
I've
had
we
really
just
pulled
back
at
this
level,
so
thank
you,
counselor
sabe
george,
for
even
calling
this
hearing
and
thank
you
amelia
for
that
kind
of
comprehensive
breakdown.
J
A
Yeah,
so
that's
where
the
question
I
was
originally
trying
to
ask:
we
were
like
hello,
hello.
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Can
you
hear
me
now
that
back
and
forth,
because
I
had
a
pleasure
working
with
amelia
when
we
did
when
I
was
at
the
office
of
housing
stability,
and
she
did
this
heat
map
based
on
displacement
emergencies
based
off
of
eviction
data,
so
I've
been
so
familiar
with
her
work
and
that
the
team's
work
and
being
able
to
do
that.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that.
A
A
That's
really
what
affh
starts
with
so
that
this
really
this
really
would
allow
for
we'll
just
use
a
real
life
example
right
of
suffolk
down,
so
suffolk
downs
is
coming
by
east
boston
and
they
propose
all
these
different
things
that
are
completely
the
opposite
of
what
the
neighborhood
looks
like
the
question
then
becomes.
Is
this
new
development
inclusive
of
the
folks
who
live
there?
Right
is
really
being
pathways
for
folks
to
come
into
the
new
housing
and
pathways
to
those
new
jobs.
A
The
new
transportation
opportunities
which
topic
downs
now
is
because
it
has
two
t,
stops
it's
going
to
create
all
these
new
jobs
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
when
you
have
a
new
development,
you
look
at
the
surrounding
communities
around
it
and
you
say:
does
each
one
of
these
communities
have
access
to
this
new
development,
or
this
new
pda
is
that
at
the
30
000
foot
view.
A
Right,
which
is
what
traditionally
they've
they've,
been
able
to
focus
on
the
four
walls
of
the
building,
they're
building
and
they'll
just
be
like
well.
That
is
what
it
is
and
we'll
give
some
mitigation
towards.
You
know
little
league
or
something
like
that,
but
now
we're
like
you,
you
don't
you
bought
the
whole
thing.
You
bought
the
neighborhood.
You
bought
the
history
of
it.
You
bought
also
what
this
future
could
be.
So
therefore,
you've
got
to
look
at
what
you've
bought
realistically
right,
and
so
I'm
really
excited
about
that
conversation.
A
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
The
way
this
map
is
looking,
I
did
I
wanted.
I
wanted
to
just
also
make
sure
I
was
clear
on
some
of
the
numbers
I
mean.
Dorchester
is
just
it's
just
big,
because
it's
for
dorchester
right.
It
also
has
a
majority
of
the
housing
unit
period
right,
okay,
yeah,
so
correct,
okay,
I'm
just
making
sure
in
that
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
now
that
we
have
kind
of
this
understanding
of
what
we
look
like.
A
A
I
mean
it
follows
the
red
line
right,
where
the
concentrations
of
the
most
subsidized
and
the
most
public
housing
is
in
roxbury
communities
of
color
and
that's
not
just
because
of
need.
That's
also
because
of
just
shoving
them
out
of
other
neighborhoods.
Let's
be
very
clear
about
it,
the
history
we
have
in
boston
right,
and
so
some
of
that
is
the
generational
kind
of
pain
and
discrimination,
segregation
that
we
have
today,
so
all
right.
A
So
we
have
what
we
have
and
we're
going
to
be
building,
because
we
have
what
nine
billion
dollars,
I
think,
just
in
yet
this
year
alone
of
construction
projects
coming
up.
So
how
do
we
do
a
visioning
exercise?
I
know
we
did
boston
2030,
but
how
do
you
do
a
visioning
exercise
based
off
these
pain
points?
A
A
B
B
So
we
find
ourselves,
you
know
stuck
in
in
a
particular
place,
but
also,
I
think,
it's
important
to
look
at
some
of
the
historical
contexts
of
some
of
our
neighborhoods
that
maybe
once
were
largely
inhabited
by
families,
and
I
think
we
also
we
look
at
the
data
that
amelia
showed.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
creating
opportunities
for
ownership-
and
we,
you
know,
continue
to
talk
about
in
other
spaces-
the
wealth
gap,
if
we're
not
creating
more
affordable
ownership
opportunities,
that
wealth
gap
is
going
to
persist
period.
End
of
sentence.
A
I
think
my
my
question
and
it's
it's
I'm
agreeing
with
you
everything
you
said,
but
just
to
direct
what
you're
saying
my
question
would
would
be
more,
not
so
much
should
or
shouldn't
we,
but
in
the
visions
that
we
have
where,
where
where
do,
we
need
to
create
more
family
housing?
I
saw
on
one
of
the
slides
with
amelia.
Downtown
is
basically
like
said.
A
Families
aren't
welcome
here,
but
the
way
that
it's
been
developed,
I
mean
that's
what
it
looks
like
look
like
families
don't
bother
to
come
here,
we're
not
going
to
have
a
downtown
family,
and
maybe
I
mean
we
only
have
one
school
at
least
the
the
public
school,
the
otis,
I'm
sorry,
the
otis,
I'm
sorry
the
quincy
the
north
end
and
I
forget
about
elliot
curtis.
It
was
going
to
go
through
every
east
boston,
elementary
school,
sorry,
but
so
maybe
I
mean,
but
why
that's
my
question
right?
A
So
we
know
we
need
certain
things,
but
where
should
they
go
and
so
and
and
that's
the
visioning
kind
of
thing?
Can
we
get
the
city
to
agree
on
that?
We
need
more
family
housing
downtown
just
as
much
as
we
need
them
in
the
neighborhoods
or
maybe
we
don't.
Maybe
it's
not
worth
it
to
us,
because
it's
too
expensive
to
do
it
downtown
we'd,
rather
just
vote
for
families
and
the
neighborhoods.
A
That's
the
kind
of
the
questions
that
I
have
and
then
I'm
gonna,
I'm
one
last
thing
and
then
I'll
go
through
the
round.
Again,
I
really
do
want
us
to
come
up
with
regulations
for
floating
houses.
I'm
gonna
bring
that
up
every
single,
every
single
hearing,
because
there's
a
hundred
beautiful
units
that
are
floating
in
charlestown
or
that
could
be
floating
in
charlestown,
but
they
basically
are
like
yeah,
affordable
stuff,
we're
not
really
housing,
so
we
don't
really
have
to
do
any
of
that.
A
B
Yeah
sure
thanks,
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
wanted
to
add
in
or
chime
in
to
that
it
felt
like
a
working
session
for
a
moment
there.
So
one
yeah
one
of
the
the
questions
I
have
is
around
the
homeless
housing
set
aside.
We,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
artist
housing.
We
talked
about
some
of
the
other
types
of
housing.
How
you
know
what
are
the
barriers
to
families
and
individuals
accessing
the
homeless
set-aside?
B
How
do
we
create
more
of
those
opportunities?
And
you
know
I
I
I
say
you
know.
I
asked
that
question
because
I
think
many
of
you
know
that
that
work
has
been
really
important
to
me,
but
I
and
I
also
understand
some
of
the
challenges
when
we
create
too
many
set-asides,
then
there's
just
there
isn't
going
to
be
a
a
critical
mass
of
anything
when
we
we
can.
We
consider
all
those
set-asides
but
the
homeless,
set
aside,
something
that's
important.
You
know
it's
something
that
I
think
we
should
do
more
of
you
know.
J
So,
obviously
the
more
I
think,
the
more
operating
subsidies
we
have
in
terms
of
vouchers,
probably
the
more
that
we
could
do.
We
do
have
some
projects
that
have
done
more.
We
also
are
working
a
lot
with
our
new
federal
resources
that
have
become
because
of
the
coveted
funding
bills.
We
are
advancing
some
work
to
do
some
rapid
re-housing
work
for
families,
and
so
that
is
going
to
be
that's
starting
to
roll
out
now,
and
so
there's
a
lot
and
that's
gonna
and
we're
gonna
be
using
some
of
our
rental.
J
So
that's
that's.
Some
really
great
work,
we're
working
on
and
also
I
know
that
I'm
not
directly
involved
in
it,
but
I
know
that
other
staff
are
directly
involved
on
the
homeless.
The
family
homelessness
committee-
that's
being
set
up,
so
that's
gonna,
get,
I
think,
provide
us
some
other
solutions
and
some
other
ways
forward
on
that.
That's.
B
Great
and
I'm
glad
that
you're
considerate
of
the
timeline
piece,
because
you
know
setting
up
some
of
these
efforts
and
then
you
know
in
you
know
a
year
or
two
years,
even
to
pull
the
rug
out
from
underneath
families
and
residents
is
just
that's
not
that's
not
productive
for
the
long
term
when
we
think
about
our
lower
income,
families
in
particular.
Have
you
know-
and
I
think
that
this
came
up
in
the
hearing
the
other
day,
one
of
the
one
of
the
hearings
the
other
day.
J
Yeah
yeah,
so
echoing
what
sheila
dillon
said
on
the
call
the
meeting
the
other
day
we
do,
you
know
we
are
actively
looking
to
purchase
existing
rental
properties
and
income,
restrict
them.
Those
are
close
mostly
to
help
existing
tenants
stay
in
their
homes,
so
they
will
have
a
range
of
incomes
as
any
building
naturally
will
have,
but
we
do
have
working
with
a
fund
through
cdx.
There
is
funds
for
buying
land
as
well.
B
Yeah
and
the
maintaining
of
affordable,
how
of
affordability
and
maintaining
those
those
restrictions
is
certainly
an
important
piece,
but
that's
like
the
little
band-aid
on
a
big
wound.
We
need
to
just
find
ways
to
create
that
additional
housing.
I
saw
that
jewel
and
maybe
david
came
off
mute
for
a
second
there.
If
they've
got
something
to
add
to
that.
J
And
and
and
while
we're
waiting
for
while
waiting
for
just
a
second,
I
did
connect
with
jessica,
with
jessica
vote
right
from
our
office
there.
The
neighborhood
housing
division
is
very
much
interested
in
looking
at
some
more
projects
that
work
on
how
to
address
the
issues
of
youth
aging
out
of
foster
care.
J
We
do
have
a
youth
homelessness
report
or
plan
that
was
released
in
2019
on
our
website,
if
you're
interested
in
that,
and
also
the
neighborhood
housing.
Trust
specifically
has
expressed
interest
in
this
issue
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
good,
and-
and
so
I
will
leave
that
there,
and
maybe
we
have
joel
coming
back
in
a
second
or.
L
Good
afternoon,
counselor
again
sorry
for
the
technical
difficulties
that
seem
to
be
plaguing
myself
and
others.
I
just
wanted
to
add
the
so.
The
bha
is
not
looking
to
purchase
land
per
se.
We
do,
however,
have
existing
parcels
that
are
either
let's
say
not
as
dense
as
they
could
be,
or
in
some
cases
not
developed
so
partially
in
conversation
with
well
with
dnd,
as
well
as
counselor
bach
who's,
the
predecessor
in
my
current
role,
in
looking
at
where
we
could
look
at
targeted
sort
of
density
or
targeted
construction.
A
E
A
Thank
you.
I
think
what
I
would
also
I
would
just
maybe
direct
the
conversation
a
little
bit
towards
bha
specifically
and
how,
as
you're
redeveloping
the
housing
developments,
which
is
a
comprehensive
long-term
capital
plan
and
in
some
cases
resulting
in
some
folks
having
to
leave
offsite
and
some
quotes
and
vouchers
moving
around.
How
are
you
or
what
is
your?
L
So
I
think
thank
you,
counselor
and-
and
I
think
david,
if
you
want
to
jump
in
after
this
in
terms
of,
if
there's
anything
relevant
to
the
voucher
programs
or
some
of
the
transitional
components.
Please
do.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
that
as
a
directly
hud
regulated
entity
and,
of
course
the
city
is
also
receiving
funds.
We
have
substantial,
I
think,
body
of
regulation
that
we
have
to
follow
generally
and
beyond.
What
is
obligatory.
L
One
is
the
there's,
the
sort
of
the
language
of
the
deals
and
the
agreements
that
that's
codified
in
the
relationship
between
bha's
ground
lease
and
and
a
new
sort
of
private
actors,
ownership
of
the
building
and
the
legal
protections
that
are
afforded
to
tenants
through
that
ground
lease
additionally,
because
of
and
particularly
because
those
projects
involve
private
development
or
because
they
involve
large
development.
Generally,
they
do
go
through
zoning.
So,
in
addition
to
sort
of
the
process
between
dha
and
a
private
actor.
G
L
I
think
a
couple
a
couple
layers,
a
couple
areas.
I
do
think
that
there
are
some
additional
pieces
to
that,
two
of
which
is
just
in
any
kind
of
redevelopment
project.
Thinking
about,
what's
the
so,
if
there's
a
one-for-one
affordability,
replacement,
just
being
considerate
and
thoughtful
over
time
over
the
type
and
size
and
whatnot
of
unit,
and
the
city,
of
course,
for
its
part,
has
really
fought
for
a
number
of
tools,
for
I
think
you
know,
certainly
some
of
the
tim
and
michelle,
I
think,
have
brought
up
in
the
past.
L
Some
of
the
you
know
the
inclusionary
development
using
zoning
and
square
footage
and
there's
a
lot
of
tools
there,
but
the
bha
also,
I
think,
can
be
considered
about
that
in
terms
of
what
it's
asking
of
private
developers
and
how
we're
working
with
with
the
city
and
district
elected
officials.
In
that
regard,
I
think
the
relocate
as,
as
you
know,
from
charlestown
in
particular
some
of
the
relocation
parts
I
think,
are
really
key
here,
and
so
the
phasing
of
buildings
is
one
part.
L
M
I'll
I'll
just
add
that
we,
you
know,
we
implemented
small
area,
fair
market
rents
for
our
voucher
program,
which
I
think
has
been
helpful
in
allowing
families
to
choose
neighborhoods
that
they
have
not
traditionally
chosen
within
boston
and
so
we're
starting
to
see
incremental
changes
with
respect
to
concentrations
of
our
voucher
holders
and
families
moving
to
neighborhoods
that
they
did
move
to
before,
specifically
roslindale
west
roxbury,
seeing
more
people
move
to
those
neighborhoods
than
we
have
in
the
past.
So
that's
a
positive
thing.
M
Additionally,
with
respect
to
project-based
vouchers
and
small
areas
for
fair
market
rents,
they
do
allow
potentially
developments
to
occur
in
some
higher
cost
neighborhoods,
where
previously
they
they
wouldn't
so
we're
starting
to
see
some
proposals
that
come
in
in
those
higher
cost.
Neighborhoods.
Of
course,
there's
always
a
balance
between
the
per
unit
cost
and
the
number
of
families
we
have
to
serve.
But
you
know
that
there
is
some.
M
We
are
starting
to
see
some
changes
because
of
that
policy,
change
and
so,
and
those
pbv's
are
a
great
tool
as
well
with
the
purchasing
that
dnd
is
doing.
We
are
often
able
to
couple
those
pbv's
to
keep
those
properties
affordable
for
low-income
families
as
they
as
they
make
those
purchases.
So,
but
joel
joel
did
a
great
job
I
think
covering
most
of
it.
I
don't
know
if
I
had
anything
else,
joel
that
you
want
to
comment
on,
but.
A
No,
I
think
to
your
point
the
fact
that
we
have
the
new
sfmr,
the
small
area,
increased
vouchers.
We
saw
it.
For
example,
in
charlestown
the
average
voucher
went
up
almost
thirteen
hundred
dollars
and
it
gave
people
purchasing,
but
we
don't
build
for
them.
If
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
if
your
voucher
is
higher,
if
you're,
if
downtown
again
is
what
we
just
saw,
is
still
a
lot
of
one
bedrooms
and
studios
and
is
not
being
built
for
more
families,
it
doesn't
matter
right.
A
L
Yep,
so
I
can
answer
that
in
two
parts
and
yeah,
so
david
runs
our
voucher
or
generally,
our
voucher
programs,
and
I
specifically
for
the
city
voucher-
have
helped
to
co-design
the
program
with
him
for
the
city.
Voucher
bha
began
really
designing
this
program
with
advocates
and
dnd
at
the
table
last
march,
so
about
a
year
ago
right
and
for
context
that
was
prior
to
it
being
funded.
So
we
got
to
that
str.
L
You
know
to
try
to
move
that
process
and
have
a
long
consultatory
process
with
community
stakeholders
that
have
pushed
for
the
program
since
that
time.
You
know
we
we,
we
ironed
out
sort
of
the
relationship
between
bha,
the
city
and
several
ways
of
being
the
the
pathways
sort
of
for
entering
to
that,
and
we
also
have
sort
of
issued
a
request
for
proposals.
That's
open
on
a
rolling
basis
is
currently
open,
so
we
are
in
the
process
now
of
reviewing
that
initial
set
of
proposals
for
funding
and
can
still
take
applications.
L
The
way
that
the
program
is
structured.
I
do
think
it's
relevant
to
this
to
the
last
set
of
questions
at
least,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
one
of
the
primary
purposes
is
to
make
some
existing
income
restricted
units
more
affordable.
So,
for
example,
if
something
is
restricted
at
sixty
percent
ami
or
what's
often
referred
to
as
tax
credit
rents,
it
may
be
made
affordable
to
someone
who's
earning
in
the
thirty
percent
or
household
earning
at
the
sort
of
the
thirty
percent
or
at
the
forty
percent
level.
L
So
some
of
the
cdc
projects
or
other
other
low
income
housing
tax
credit
projects
should
they
choose
to
go
after
this
subsidy
could
be
made
affordable
to
something
that
matches
the
economic
profile.
A
lot
of
low,
extremely
low
income
bostonians,
I
think,
from
a
fair
housing
perspective,
that's
helpful
and
it's
it's
helping,
I
think,
close
a
gap
in
some
instances,
so
we
will
be
awarding
those,
but
because
of
the
the
substantial
time
in
the
sort
of
design
and
the
fact
that
we
really
wanted
to
work
with
advocates.
L
A
I'm
excited
for
them
to
get
online,
though
honestly
I
mean
it's
it's
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
makes
us
again
a
leader
in
this
case
in
this
conversation
that
the
city
would
come
up
with
their
own,
and
I
know
the
city
is
committed
to
making
sure
that
immigration
status
isn't
part
of
that
calculus
for
the
city-based
vouchers,
or
at
least
especially
if
it's
helping
you
deepen
that.
That
means
a
lot
for
a
lot
of
my
constituents,
I'm
sure
for
counselor,
mejia's
and
obviously
counselor
asabi
george's
constituents
all
of
ours.
B
Yeah,
I
just
have
a
quick
comment
and
then
a
quick
question.
I
guess
I'll
start
with
a
question
in
the
comment.
The
other
day
in
one
of
our
multiple
hearings,
you
know
we
had.
There
was
a
discussion
around
the
opportunity
to
fast
track
certain
projects,
especially
ones
that
were
100,
affordable,
deeply,
affordable
projects,
I'm
like
all
in
for
that.
I
think
that's
a
that's
fantastic.
If
we
can
look
for
those
opportunities,
I
wonder,
though,
with
bha
in
particular
and
with
our
vouchers.
M
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
where,
where
we
can,
where
we
can
push
building,
especially
on
the
affordable
pieces,
that
we
have
the
vouchers
and
in
hand
or
available
that
we're
not
going
to
run
out,
because
those
vouchers
can
be
tricky
and
there's
some
difficulty,
sometimes
in
planning
for
them,
and
they
become
surprise
gifts
or
we're
sort
of
waiting
on
the
timing.
And
we
hear
rumblings
that
they
might
be
coming.
But
we
don't
know
exactly
when
they're
coming.
B
M
Yeah
I
mean
with
with
respect
to
development,
and
we,
the
the
budget,
is
very
difficult
to
anticipate
from
the
the
federal
program,
which
is,
the
you
know
is
where
our
funding
comes
from.
We
actually
just
received
our
we.
We
know
it
when
we
we
just
found
out.
Finally
what
we're
going
to
receive
for
calendar
year
2021,
for
example.
M
Yet
we
we
figure
out
how
to
either
set
those
vouchers
aside
or
request
additional
funding,
as
is
permitted
when
we
we
don't
seem
to
have
enough
under
the
under
the
hud
notices.
So
I
think
there
there's
always
a
way
to
try
to
figure
those
out
those
projects
out.
We
don't
have
an
endless
supply,
but
we
seem
to
be
able
to
as
long
as
there's
kind
of
a
good
time
frame
in
front
of
us
to
to
figure
that
out.
Oh.
B
That's
great
to
hear,
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
I
just
I
wanted
my
comment.
I
suppose
my
note
is.
This
has
been
a
fairly
quick
hearing.
I
think,
on
a
large
topic,
and
I
think
that
speaks
to
certainly
some
of
the
ground
that
we
covered
the
other
day,
but
I
think
more
so
to
the
opening
presentation
that
amelia
emilia
gave.
B
I
I
hope
that
that
slide
deck
is
in
our
inboxes
or
could
be
in
our
inboxes,
because
I
found
that
information
very,
very
helpful,
very
detailed,
and
I
look
forward
to
sort
of
picking
at
it
a
little
bit
more
independently.
So
I
may
send
out
some
additional
follow-up
questions
after
that
that
opportunity.
B
B
You
know
I
know
mayor
janie
has
called
for
that
hearing.
I've
done
that
in
partnership
with
her
over
the
last
few
years.
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
been
a
refile
or
not
so
go
back
and
look
on
that,
but
where
it
was
brought
up
here,
maybe
we
don't
need
a
separate
hearing
order,
maybe
just
a
working
session
on
that
piece
in
particular,
because
I
know
in
a
couple
of
our
neighborhoods:
that's
a
that's
a
particular
concern
as
well
so
amelia.
B
J
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
really
thank
amelia
for
the
work
she
did
on
this
and
she
will
get
that
presentation
to
you
speaking
specifically
on
both
the
supportive
housing
and
the
sober
housing
data
that
was
actually
a
new
data
sources
that
we
pulled
specifically
to
address
this
order.
So
we
appreciate
the
time
and
effort
we
can
take
after
this
to
kind
of
get
that
into
better
shape
and
have
that
is
another
part
of
our
data
that
we
keep
on
an
ongoing
basis.
E
So
sorry,
I
put
my
hand
up
because
I
wasn't
I
had
my
mute
off
because
I
was
my
daughter
was
distracting
me.
So
I
I
wasn't
sure
if
you
had
called
upon
me
counselor
edwards,
but
I
do
have
one
more
question:
if
that's
still:
okay,
yep,
okay,
so
I'm
just
curious,
you
know
I'm
going
back
to
the
the
diversity
housing
right.
I
also
think
about
college
students.
E
You
know
we.
We
have
a
lot
of
students
here
who
grew
up
in
the
city
of
boston
who
can't
afford
to
stay
here.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
include
them
in
this
conversation
in
terms
of
like
housing,
for
students
who
are
from
boston,
and
let's
say
that
other
students
who
are
not,
but
just
like
what
kind
of
pathway
are
we
creating
for
boston,
public
school
students
who
have
graduated
from
our
city,
schools?
E
Who
who
who
want
to
be
able
to
stay
here?
You
know
that
would
be
another
area
of
of
interest
for
me
and
then
I'm
also
curious
about.
There
are
a
lot
of
folks
who,
because
of
their
their
income,
that
they
fall
sometimes
maybe
like
two
or
three
thousand
dollars
over
what
the
affordable
income
you
know,
subsidy
requirements
are,
and
I'm
just
curious
what,
if
any,
efforts
are
being
made
to
help
support
some
of
these
families
who
are
at
you
know
a
hair
two
over
the
subsidy
housing
requirements.
J
So
I
I
think
I'll
take
the
first.
The
first
question
is
really
a
comment
on
the
things
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about,
and
we
really
do
appreciate
that
in
terms
of
how
do
we
make
sure
that
students
who
are
from
here
can
stay
here.
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
income
requirements,
I
mean
many
of
those
are
set
by
the
federal
government.
J
It
is
always
a
proverbial
problem
about
what
to
do
about.
The
folks
who
are
just
a
little
makes
just
a
little
bit
more
than
what
the
income
maximums
are
for
a
program
and
that's
one
reason
why
we
at
our
agency
have
been
committed
to
providing
units
at
a
range
of
incomes
and
providing
people
who
can
kind
of
a
ladder
towards
the
housing
opportunities.
J
So
they
may
not
be
income
eligible
for
a
one
kind
of
rental
unit,
but
they
may
be
income
eligible
for
home
ownership
assistance
where
they
can
actually
buy
something
with
down
payment
assistance
in
the
regular
market.
So
it
means
a
full
range
of
things
and
there
probably
is
always
going
to
be
some
families
who
are
not
going
to
be
eligible
for
one
program
another
and
that
that's
that's,
always
the
problem
of
balancing
out
serving
those
with
the
most
need
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
range
of
income
served.
J
I
So
just
thinking
of
it
that
way
and
thinking
of
the
idea
of
all
the
different
subsidy
sources,
federal
state,
local
funding
sources
and
how
they
have
different
requirements
and
limits
and
in
creating
a
structure.
That's
not
duplicative
of
other
sources,
but
supportive
of
those
other
sources
and
creating
housing
at
a
range.
A
All
if
there's
no
other
questions
from
my
colleagues,
I'm
probably
going
to
go
ahead
and
end
this
a
little
early,
mostly
because
I
think
we're
going
to
come
back
to
this
conversation.
I'll
talk
with
the
lead
sponsor
about.
Maybe
you
want
to
focus
the
next
concentration
on
one
of
the
larger
populations
that
we've
just
learned
about
envisioning,
maybe
specifically
for
about
family
housing
or
visioning,
specifically
around
sober
housing.
But
this
is
incredible
overall
conversation,
and
I
just
really
again
thank
you
so
much
for
the
data.