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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on April 1, 2022
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Docket #0400 - Hearing to discuss how the City budget is addressing equity
A
I'm
calling
this
hearing
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
tania
fernandez,
anderson,
district
7
city
councilor.
A
I
am
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
I
am
joined
here
by
my
colleagues
counselor
julia
mejia
and
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
stream
at
boston.gov
for
slash
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8
rcn
channel
82
files
channel
964..
A
A
It's
meant
to
be
an
opportunity
to
discuss
how
the
city's
budget
is
addressing
equity
throughout
the
various
neighborhoods
in
each
of
our
districts.
As
we
know,
the
budgeting
process
is
one
of
the
most
important
public
agents
agency
activities
and
budget
decisions
directly
affect
the
quality
of
life
in
a
community
and
public's
level
of
satisfaction.
With
decision
makers,
I
just
like
to
pause
for
a
moment.
A
Address
a
I
wanted
to
start
differently
and
I
apologize
that
I
they
were
going
a
little
backwards.
I
think
I
have
to
read
it
from
my
phone,
but
in
the
in
the
interest
of
being
the
first
black
woman
to
share
ways
and
means
in
the
city
of
boston.
I
just
wanted
to
read
just
a
couple
lines
from
a
dear
young
sister
who
wrote
me
an
email
yesterday
she
is
a
muslim
in
fifth
grade
and
lives
attend
school
in
east
boston.
A
Her
name
is
majoline
shout
out
to
majoline
sis
salaam
alaikum,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
thinking
of
me
and
writing
me.
So
before
we
begin
she
says
my
name
is
majoline.
I'm
in
the
fifth
grade
live
in
east
boston
and
go
to
the
windsor
school.
A
A
A
Qualified
renters
need
not
apply
and
she
goes
on
to
talking
about
these
issues
and
offering
herself
to
helping
and
talking
about
as
a
muslim,
how
important
it
is
to
her
to
see
a
fellow
muslim
black
woman
from
africa
as
well
as
herself,
and
she
wishes
me
the
best
in
serving
the
city,
and
so
today
I
wore
my
pink
hijab
to
say
thank
you
so
much
majulin,
assalamu
alaikum
to
you
and
ramadan
mubarak,
and
I
pray
that
allah
rewards
you
and
I
look
forward
to
meeting
you.
A
A
A
The
city
does
not
have
an
equity
driven,
accountable
allocation
system
in
place
that
tracks
its
budget,
budgeted
and
actual
revenues
and
expenses
across
district
neighborhoods.
Aside
from
the
capital
budget
and
community
preservation
act
funds
as
stewards
of
the
city
budget
and
representatives
of
our
constituents,
the
city
council
needs
to
know
specific
information
in
order
to
best
advocate
for
our
interests
of
our
constituents
with
emphasized
attention
on
marginalized
communities,
especially
historically
disenfranchised
bostonians.
A
The
issue
is
that
what
the
city's
budget,
what
are
city's
budget
funds?
A
What
are
the
actual
revenues
and
expenses
and
how
are
said
revenues
being
distributed
across
each
neighborhood,
the
more
a
need,
the
more
marginalized
the
neighborhood
is,
the
more
marginalized
the
neighborhood
is
the
more
they
should
benefit
from
an
outlay
of
resources
from
the
funds
allocated
by
the
city.
Otherwise,
pre-existing
inequities
will
reproduce
perpetuating
themselves
right
as
such,
the
act
of
resource
redistribution
may
be
necessary
if
we
are
serious
about
actually
or
actualizing
the
equitable
society
we
claim
we
want.
A
According
to
our
verbage
equity,
not
equality
must
be
the
end
goal
if
the
city
is
to
be
in
need
what
it
has
long
been
in
creed
there,
for
we
need
specifics,
not
gener
generalities.
We
need
content,
not
form,
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
need
actions,
not
words.
How
much
money
is
going
to
support
small
businesses
and
of
that?
How
much
is
going
to
marginalize
communities
and
working
class
owned
businesses?
A
This
stands
for
every
facet
of
resource
distribution,
whether
it
be
community
centers,
quality
of
life,
issues
pertaining
to
parks
and
recreation,
environmental,
cleanup,
trash
recycling
and
composting
health
care,
education,
transportation,
et
cetera,
resources
and
equities,
tend
to
be
interconnected.
So
it
is
vital
that
we
track
all
of
the
elements
which
constitute
our
our
lived
experiences
less.
We
miss
the
enveloping
totally
which
make
up
the
marginalized
and
oppressed
oppressive
situations,
which
many
bostonians
find
themselves
to
be
inhabiting
as
such
as
stated:
specif
specif
specificity.
A
English
is
not
my
first
language
is
key
for
general
data
can
skew
the
end
results
and
lead
one
to
believe
that
all
of
our
constituents
are
equally
benefiting
from
the
plethora
of
resources
that
are
seemingly
available.
Yet,
if
said,
resources
are
not
equitably
distributed,
they
are.
They
act
only
to
disguise
and
continue
conditions
of
inequity
and
create
scenarios
where
many
of
us
for
lack
of
better
explanation
will
essentially
blame
the
victim
for
their
inability
to
better
their
condition.
A
There
is
something
deeply
insidious
about
this,
so
the
quicker
we
can
eliminate
these
proclivities
and
actually
actuate
sorry
a
realm
where
we
can
distribute
resources
in
a
manner
that
will
actualize
the
city
of
boston
that
we
envision
the
better.
We
will
be
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
I've
also
been
joined
by
my
counselor,
my
colleague
ruth,
and
that
we
are
also-
and
I
apologize-
we're
also
here,
joined
by
my
colleague,
counselor
liz
braden.
A
Okay,
I
will
turn
to
my
colleagues
for
additional
opening
remark
for
any
opening
remarks,
but
first
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
panel
today
we
have
we
have
a
list.
A
Yes,
we
do
jim
williamson
budget
director
chief
sugan
idol,
chief
of
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
and
alex
lawrence
chief
of
do
it
and
you'll
correct
me
with
further
new
roles
later
right,
welcome
everyone
and
thank
you
so
much
for
participating,
and
I
think
we
have
some
folks
also
on
panel
joining
us
on
zoom,
and
we
can
address
that
as
we
go
first,
I
like
to
turn
to
my
colleagues
in
order
of
arrival
for
their
one
minute.
A
Introduction
and
remark,
then
we'll
go
to
a
quick
presentation
from
our
panelists
and
then
back
to
our
counselors
for
questioning
and
hopefully
then
address
a
focus
on
zoom
as
well,
so
counselor
mejia,
you
were
here.
First,
you
have
the
floor.
C
Chair
counselor
fernandez
anderson
for
holding
this
hearing
and
for
centering
all
things
equity.
We
have
yet
to
see
the
mayor's
budget,
but
even
before
we
do,
we
need
to
ensure
that
equity
is
rooted
in
every
aspect
of
our
city's
budget.
As
public
officials,
we
like
to
reference
a
lot
of
stats
about
what
life
is
like
for
communities
of
color
and
working
class
bostonians,
but
we
can't
be
content
with
just
naming
those
statistics.
C
They
are
supposed
to
motivate
us
into
action,
so
I'm
hoping
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we're
using
our
budget
to
mostly
most
effectively
tackle
the
greatest
inequities
in
our
city.
I
look
forward
to
this
conversation
and
learning
more
and
I
would
have
to
agree
you
know.
C
Having
sat
through,
I
think
two
hearing
two
budget
seasons
it
it
seems
like
oftentimes
people,
come
in
with
a
big
notebook
and
lots
of
data,
and
it's
incredibly
overwhelming,
especially
for
those
who
have
never
been
in
the
weeds,
and
I
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
switch
things
up
and
when
we
are
answering
questions
that
we're
not
peppering
it
with
beautiful
words
that
we
need
to.
C
You
know
go
to
google
to
decode,
and
so
I
think
we
have
a
responsibility
to
really
be
as
simple,
but
as
intentional
as
possible
in
really
getting
into
the
weeds
of
how
every
single
dollar
is
going
to
impact
communities
that
have
so
often
felt
underserved
right,
and
so
this
is
why
I'm
really
excited
about
the
cabinet,
the
administration
and
the
intentionality
to
really
center
equity,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
whole
sharads
of
public
hearings
that
are
coming
down
the
pipeline.
C
But
I'm
also
incredibly
encouraged
that
we
have
a
black
woman
who
is
deeply
committed
to
equity
in
this,
and
I
think
that
oftentimes
in
the
city
of
boston,
in
particular,
there's
always
been.
This
have
and
have
not
mentality
and
those
who
have
have
a
lot
more
than
those
who
have
not
right,
and
so
this
is
why
I
think
centering
it
in
equity
and
really
being
honest
about.
C
What's
it
going
to
take
to
lift
all
boats
is
what
I'm
really
excited
about,
and
it's
gonna,
I'm
sure
it's
not
gonna
be
easy,
because
this
is
part
of
the
journey,
but
I
do
believe-
and
I
always
say
that
this
is
heart-
work
not
hard
work
and
we
have
someone
who's
leading
with
heart
and
is
willing
to
do
the
hard
work
to
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
be
so.
Thank
you,
counselor
fernandez,
anderson
for
your
leadership
in
the
space,
and
I
look
forward
to
the
hearing.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councilman
here,
counselor
liz
braden.
You
have
the
floor.
D
Madam
chair
and
thank
you
for
being
bringing
this
matter
before
us
this
morning.
It's
very
important
conversation.
I
feel
that
we
should
the
artistic
we
use
to
measure
great
communities.
Great
civilizations,
great
great
countries,
is
how
well
we
take
care
of
the
least
among
us
who,
who
struggle
and
those
who
have
the
greatest
need.
So
I
feel
that
this
is
a
very
timely
conversation
and
a
really
important
one.
We
had
a
great
walk
around
our
business
district
in
brighton
center
last
week
with
the
chief
segun
and
it
was.
D
I
feel
that
that's
a
particular
sector
in
our
city
that
adds
vibrancy
and
interest
and
again
I
feel
that
when
we
get
into
the
weeds,
it's
always
the
big
block
numbers
that
as
country
mejia
says,
don't
tell
us
a
lot,
but
it's
interesting
and
important
to
dig
into
the
weeds
and
get
a
better
handle
on
how
we're
actually
spending
our
money
and
how
whether
or
not
we're
using
it
to
get
the
best
possible
benefit
for
our
neighbors
all
across
the
city.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
holding
this
hearing.
I'm
thankful
that
we
are
having
the
space
to
talk
about
budget
and
about
the
issues
that
are
important
to
all
of
our
communities.
As
we
know,
a
budget
is
a
value
statement
and
we,
for
so
long,
have
ignored
intentionally
excluded
the
needs
of
so
many
of
our
communities.
When
we
talk
about
the
work
of
racial
equity,
it
really
is
about
the
corrective
action
that
we
need
to
take
to
correct
for
policy,
harms
that
we've
done
to
our
communities
and
being
very
intentional
about
our
budget.
E
I'm
excited
that
we
have
an
administration
that
really
is
leaning
in
one
wants
to
apply
a
racial
equity
framework
to
the
work
coming
out
of
the
administration
and
climate
equity
framework.
So
I'm
here
to
learn
as
a
first-year
city,
councilor
learning
the
budget
process
and
to
ask
questions.
So
I
just
thank
you
all
for
being
here,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
holding
this
in
for
really
centering
the
needs
of
our
communities,
those
that
are
always
forgotten
black
and
brown
communities
and
so
excited
for
your
leadership
and
for
this
and
for
this
hearing.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
president
flynn,.
F
Our
city
budget
should
address
long-standing
needs
such
as
housing,
affordability,
stability,
public
health,
pedestrian
safety,
climate
resiliency,
equitable
access
to
city
services,
so
the
that
equitable
access
is
a
crucial
part
of
our
budget,
but
also
listening
to
residents
as
well.
I'm
glad
we're
having
this
discussion
now
to
talk
about
what
exactly
we
can
do
to
improve
the
lives
of
boston
residents
and
again,
just
like
my
colleagues
have
also
mentioned.
We
are
proud
of
council
fernandez
anderson
as
the
first
african-american
woman
chairing
the
ways
and
means
committee.
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
whenever
I
hear
whenever
I
listen
to
you,
speak
council
fund,
I
feel
like
jumping
over
my
seat
and
go
and
give
you
a
big
hug,
but
you
don't
get
a
hug
right
now
we
got
work
to
do.
Thank
you
so
much
we've
been
joined
by
chief
solis
mariangelis,
but
before
we
go
on
just
a
quick
note,
your
will
enable
your
mic
so
no
need
to
touch
it
so
that
there's
less
you
know
pauses
and
confusion,
but
I
did.
A
I
did
want
to
make
a
quick
statement.
So
you
know,
typically,
budgets
are
not
like
budget
hearings
or
processes
are
not
handled
like
this.
From
what
I
understand
being
new
and
coming
in
the
this
is
not
traditional.
So
when
I
filed
this,
there
was
a
lot
of
questions
and
suggestions,
and
you
know
comments
or
whatever
about
you
know.
What
is
this?
Why?
A
Why
not
just
do
it
during
the
listening
during
the
regular
hearings,
the
budget
hearings
and
you
don't
even
have
the
budget
yet
well,
everybody
campaigns
on
the
premises
of
making
the
city
equitable.
Everybody
says
racial
justice.
Everybody
says
all
the
jargons
that
we
know
is
right.
We
all
talk
like
that.
We
all
say
it
and
I
I
personally
to
make
sense
and
being
new.
I
want
to
not
only
I'm.
Not
only
am
I
learning
the
process
with
you
with
my
colleagues.
A
It's
also
my
first
year
right,
but
it's
also
coming
in
with
the
perception
that
well,
if
we
are
truly
to
stand
by
what
we
say
we're
about.
You
know
in
my
beautiful
speech
that
the
beautiful
writers
and
my
team
write,
but
I
want
to
tell
you
this
from
the
heart
right.
Everything
they
said
is
right,
but
what
I'm
saying
to
you
from
my
heart
is
that
there's
I'm
going
to
make
mistakes
and
there
are
going
to
be
learning
curves
and
we're
doing
this
together.
A
What
I'm
not
is
lazy
and
so
we're
going
to
take
our
time
we're
going
to
be
patient
with
each
other,
we're
going
to
respect
each
other,
we're
going
to
ask
questions
in
courtesy
and
we're
going
to
extend
grace-
hopefully
god
willing,
in
the
spirit
of
ramadan
starting
tomorrow,
the
entire
budget.
His
first
month
is
going
to
be
with
me
with
no
food
and
water
right,
which
is
amazing.
It's
don't
feel
bad
for
me.
A
Don't
offer
me
nothing,
it's
going
to
be
amazing,
it's
going
to
be
great,
but
what
I
want
us
to
do
is
relax
a
little
bit,
because
I
believe
that
we
are
working
in
an
environment
with
people
that
really
care
every
single
one
of
the
people
on
the
panel
today,
every
single
one
of
my
colleagues.
I
believe
that
we
have
good
intentions
if
we're
ignorant
about
something
we'll
make
those
mistakes.
Let's
not
try
to
be.
You
know
like
pointing
at
each
other,
because
I
understand
the
traditional,
the
culture
of
politics.
A
It's
you
know
us
against
the
system,
I'm
gonna
fight
for
the
people,
that's
not
the
case.
We
want
to
completely
overthrow
that.
We
want
to
work.
We
want
to
build
our
own
new
culture.
How
do
we
build
community
you
and
I
right
and
us
together?
We
can
fight
for
the
people
that
need
us.
So
these
questions
that
are
coming
this
conversation
will
do
it
with
patience,
but
we
have
to
get
to
what's
practical
to
what's
logical.
A
So
with
that
in
mind,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
panelist
and
it's
going
to
be
a
little
funky
because
after
my
colleagues
ask
you
just
one
question
each
they
don't
like
that:
we'll
go
to
the
public
and
we'll
listen
to
them
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
then
they
can
ask
a
thousand
questions
if
they
want.
But
we
don't
want
people
to
wait
all
this
time.
That's
just
ridiculous!
So
welcome
and
I'm
we're
all
ears.
G
Okay,
I
think
I'm
going
to
kick
it
off
so
counselors
fernandez,
anderson,
luigen,
mejia,
braden
and
flynn.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
hearing.
We
think
this
is
a
immensely
important
topic.
G
While
you
know
at
the
budget
office,
we
continue
to
promote
high
quality
delivery
of
service
looking
to
achieve
cost
effectiveness
more
and
more
we're
dedicating
our
analytical
resources
to
looking
at
issues
of
equity.
It's
very
very
important,
we're
not
what
we
want
to
be
today,
but
we're
we're
willing
to
show
you
some
of
the
the
efforts
we're
making
and
we
want
to
be
in
the
vision
to
build
a
city
for
everybody,
so
everybody
can
participate.
G
So
with
that,
I
will
go
on
to
the
first
slide,
and
this
is
this
is
probably
better
to
see
in
printed
form,
but
I'll
read
it.
So
this
is
a
policy
statement
for
the
budget
office
in
terms
of
equity.
We
we
wrote
this
when
the
very
first
chief
of
equity
in
previous
administration
was
appointed,
but
chief
solace
cervera
has
has
reviewed
it
and
tweaked
it
a
little
bit
for
us,
but
it
it
generally
is
in
the
same
vein.
G
G
We
recognize
that
equitable
levels
of
investment
are
in
our
iterative
process
in
a
constant
evaluation
of
city
needs,
the
needs
of
highly
vulnerable
or
historically
excluded
groups
and
resident
requests
and
desires.
All
of
these
make
a
good
investment
in
the
budget
while
we
apply
the
same
quality,
announce
quality
analysis
to
every
request.
Obm
strives
to
address
historic,
uneven
levels
of
investment
and
aims
to
bring
all
services
to
all
neighborhoods
at
the
same
high
quality.
G
So
to
point
out
sort
of
how
one
of
the
efforts
we
made
to
to
look
towards
people
who
don't
typically
participate
in
the
budget
process
who
don't
who,
who
feel
maybe
excluded
or
not
been
brought
to
the
table.
One
of
the
efforts
we
we
highlighted
is
called
moving
to
the
budget.
It
was
a
it
was.
It
was
a
partnership
with
the
budget
office
and
the
mayor's
office
of
new
urban
mechanics
in
this.
G
This
melded
those
those
two
policy
goals
of
both
seeking
and
having
everybody
brought
into
the
table
and
also
hearing
what
people's
thoughts
and
desires
are.
So
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
lots
of
detail,
but
it
it
was
a
partnership
that
we
reached
out
to
to
a
pilot
group
of
folks
in
east
boston
and
through
a
different
approach.
G
I
think
I
think
council,
fernandez,
andersons
and
councilmember
talked
about
some
of
the
the
sort
of
structured
and
very
ways
of
presenting
information
and
to
be
more
informal
and
intentional
and
communicate
it
in
a
more
consumable.
You
know
fashion,
and
that
was
the
effort
of
this.
You
know
it
it
integrated
movement
and
stuff.
There
was
a
lot
of
jokes
that
the
budget
office
was
putting
on
like
a
dance
recital
or
something
like
that,
but
that
that
wasn't
really
the
intent.
G
It
was
really
really
listening
to
people,
people
who
might
have
not
participated
in
the
budget
process,
and
it
it
we're.
It
was
a
pilot
and
we're
looking
to
do
it.
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
is:
it
happened
in
the
spring
of
of
2021
and
the
pandemic
was
sort
of
aligned
while
the
budget
process
was
going
on,
but
really
didn't
have
a
chance
to
like
super
in.
G
You
know
the
the
beginning
of
the
process,
so
I
will
go
on
to
the
next
slide
to
just
talk
about
another,
and
you
guys
are
probably
all
the
counselors
have
participated
in
the
the
budget
listening
sessions,
and
this
is
a
one
of
those
slides
from
that
presentation,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
convey
through
that
listening
session
is
the
budget
process.
G
Priorities
for
the
budget
can
be
surfaced
at
any
time
and
so
usually
there's
lots
of
forums
for
engagement
in
one
one
of
the
things
that
as
a
budget
officer
or
as
an
administration
you
have
to
be
sensitive
to
is,
there
are
very,
very
highly
mobilized
advocacy
groups
and
then
there
are
folks
that
don't
sort
of
aren't,
as
you
know,
they're
the
working
folks,
people
who
live
in
your
neighborhood
people
just
getting
up
going
to
work,
taking
the
kids
to
school.
G
They
don't
have
necessarily
the
time
or
the
resources
to
read
lots
of
reports
and
in
in
delving
or
or
schedule
time
with
counselors
or
city
officials
and
cabinet
officials.
So
there
are,
we
have
to
go
to
where
the
people
are
and
listen
to,
because
they're
going
to
provide
the
best
advice
on
where
the
city
should
prioritize
their
resources.
G
Obviously,
as
a
as
a
government
organization,
we
have
to
put
it
through
the
requirements
of
you
know:
what's
an
appropriate
expense
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
this
circular
talks
about
the
different
stages
of
the
process
we
talked
about
in
the
winter.
We
had
those
budget-focused
listening
sessions.
We
talked
about
changes.
The
the
change
in
the
charter
that
makes
as
council
flynn
anderson
was
talking
about
this
is
a
real
partnership.
G
Now
this
is
going
to
be
a
conversation
to
finalize
the
budget
in
a
very
collaborative
way
with
the
council,
and
we
look
forward
to
that
and
then
there's
the
sort
of
formal
prescribed
budget
hearings
that
you
guys
the
city
council
host,
where
you
know
where,
where
people
can
attend
and
vocalize,
but
I
know
you've
tried
to
make
that
as
open
as
possible
with
people
can
email
and
communicate
in
various
different
ways.
So
so
the
but
the
the
real
takeaway
here
is.
G
Is
the
budget
just
doesn't
happen
between
a
date
certain
minute?
It's
we
hear
about
it
and
the
budgets
aren't
so
restrictive
that
it's
like
paying
for
a
position
and
a
contract
generally,
that's
what
it
is,
but
there's
some
flexibility
to
accommodate
things,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
activities
in
the
budget
that
are
programmatic
in
nature.
So
you
could
you
know
it
you?
Can
you
can
address
people's
concerns
in
a
more
expeditious
way.
G
One
of
the
things
that
you
know
in
this
another
slide-
that
probably
is
maybe
because
I
I
have
I'm
nearsighted
and
I
can't
see-
maybe
you
guys
can
see
it
is
better
than
I
do,
but
we
had
a
survey
that
accompanied
the
listening
tour
and
now
it's
the
the
demographics
and
the
reach
we
we
know
aren't
perfect,
but
it's
something
that
we
we
wanted
to
take
and
we're
trying
to
push
it
out,
and
this
is
all
data
through
march
4..
G
So
we
wanted
it
to
be
feel
the
the
what
the
residents
were.
Communicating
was
done
in
a
time
frame
that
could
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
budget.
So
you
know,
as
of
march
4th
559
people
took
the
survey
528
in
english.
One
out
of
five
respondents
were
from
jamaica,
plain
and
another
one
and
five
were
from
dorchester
and
west
roxbury.
G
59.3
percent
of
the
respondents
chose
to
identify
their
race
as
white
12.4
percent,
as
hispanic
or
latinx
11.6,
as
black
or
african-american
and
6.2
is
asian.
There
was
a
generally
a
good
mix
of
of
ages,
but
you
know
we
feel
that
maybe
the
the
demographic
of
18
and
under
wasn't
super
represented
and
also
the
demographics
of
the
whole
survey.
We
wanted
to
be
more
aligned
with
the
the
demographics
of
the
city,
almost
400
participants
across
four
virtual
sessions.
G
You
know
organized
it
was
virtual,
but
it
was
organized
around
groupings
of
city,
council,
districts,
participants,
shared
feedback
verbally
through
chat
messages
in
in
through
the
survey,
we
also
received
feedback
from
neighborhood
groups,
many
of
whom
highlighted
street
improvements
and
those
those
were.
There
was
some
recurring
themes
that
we
were
seeing.
Some
of
them
attended
more
than
one
session
and
here's
sort
of
a.
G
Okay,
trying
to
get
to
the
next
slide
here
here
we
go
here-
is
the
the
participants
graphically
distributed
by
my
neighborhood,
and
you
know,
and
we
all
know,
engagement
is
sort
of
the
day
of
the
week.
The
time
of
the
day
you
know,
so
the
participants
were
grouped
by
districts.
This
is
no
no
hit
on
any
district.
Some
some
of
the
these
districts
were
saturdays
at
noon.
G
So
that
might
not
be
the
perfect
draw
on
these
type
of
things,
but
those
are
those
are
the
participants
in
the
four
different
sessions.
G
And
then
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
ways
that
we
sort
of
can
help
people
see
where
investments
are
made
geographically,
so
everybody
is
focused
on.
Typically,
most
residents
are
focused
on
where
they
live
and
how
they
get
around
and
how
they
get
back
and
forth
to
work,
how
to
get
back
to
school,
how
to
get
how
to
get
to
church
and
other
places
like
that.
So
this
is
a
map
of
of
capital
investments.
So
we
we
understand
that
not
everybody
is
sort
of
has
access
to
technology
and
things
like
that.
G
But
for
those
who
do
this
is
this
is
a
graphical
map
that
will
give
you
all
the
projects
in
the
capital
plan,
whether
some
of
them
are
programmatic.
Some
of
them
are
building
specific.
You
can
highlight
and
hover
on
on
a
particular
location
and
geographic
area.
It
does
have
the
outline
of
city
council
districts.
G
It
presents
itself
with
the
neighborhoods
as
well,
so
these
are
one
of
the
ways
that
we
we
try
to
communicate
where
investment
is
being
made
around
the
city,
and
with
that
I
think
we're
moving
into
alex
is
part
of
the
presentation.
H
Wonderful
thanks
so
much
council
for
having
me
here,
I'm
alex
lawrence,
I'm
the
acting
chief
information
officer
and
as
counselor
fernandez
anderson
alluded
to
the
beginning,
I'm
going
to
be
transitioning
into
a
role
in
the
administration
and
finance
cabinet
over
the
next
month
to
oversee
people,
operations
of
the
city,
and
I
think
so
this
this
presentation
here
is
sort
of
a
confluence
of
of
where
I've
been
in
the
organization
and
and
where
I'm
going,
and
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying
jim.
H
You
can
keep
me
honest
here
if
I
get
this
incorrect,
but
I
believe
at
least
slightly
over
60
percent
of
the
city's
budget.
The
operating
budget
goes
to
our
personnel
expenses,
so
it
goes
to
the
humans
that
do
this
work,
and
so,
when
we're
talking
about
equity
in
the
budget,
obviously
the
the
humans
that
do
this
work
every
day
is
a
pretty
large
percentage
of
of
the
work.
And
so
thinking
about
the
diversity
and
composition
of
our
workforce
should
be
pretty
relevant
to
this
conversation.
H
So
since
about
2016,
this
dashboard
that
you
can
see
on
the
presentation
has
been
publicly
available.
It's
a
snapshot
that
updates
every
single
day
to
sort
of
show
the
to
show
the
diversity
of
our
workforce
broken
down
by
gender,
ethnicity,.
H
Compensation
and
tenure-
and
you
can
divide
it-
this
is
publicly
available
on
the
website.
So
the
url
is
here
on
the
bottom,
I'm
happy
to
show
anyone
how
to
access
it,
but
you
can
filter
this
by
department
and
see
sort
of
exactly
the
the
various
makeups
along
those
various
kinds
of
filtering.
But
what
that
shows?
You
is
a
point
in
time,
so
jim,
if
you
can
move
to
the
next
slide.
Council
fernandez
anderson
asked
some
questions
about
how
this
has
changed
over
the
past
few
fiscal
years.
H
So
we
spun
up
some
really
quick
analysis,
but
obviously
there's
a
lot
more
questions
that
can
be
answered
here
and,
as
you
said,
counselor
mijia,
just
the
numbers,
don't
tell
the
full
story
here,
and
so
what
we
wanted
to
show
is
that
you
can
see
sort
of
trends
over
over
time
and
how
our
workforce
has
changed
along
a
few
demographic
issues.
But
we're
happy
to
this
is
something
we
pulled
together
really
really
quickly.
H
H
Sorry,
I
can't
see
them
very
well,
but
I'm
happy
to
just
read
them
aloud
as
a
snapshot.
If
that
would
be
helpful
so-
and
I
should
probably
also
start
by
saying
these
numbers
specifically
speak
to
the
composition
of
our
workforce,
who
are
on
our
who
are
on
our
payroll
systems,
which
is
how
we
gather
this
data.
So
this
is
not
inclusive
of
some
of
the
quasi
agencies.
H
H
Bha
bha,
I
believe,
is
not
included.
Boston,
water
and
sewer
is
not
included.
A
H
Anyone
else-
and
we
also
have
our
chief
data
officer
who's
on
the
line
who
might
be
able
to
to
help
me
here
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
she's
able
to
speak
so
I
was
still
just
trying
to
get
up
to
speed
and
exactly
what
this
data
shows.
So
I
do
know
this
includes
public
safety
and
boston
public
school.
H
It
does
not
include
the
pda,
it
does
not
include
boston,
water
and
sewer
does
not
include
boston,
public
health,
commission
and
you
said
one
more,
but
my
brain
is
political,
bpda,
bha,
bphc,
bh.
Sorry,
thank
you.
Sorry
about
that.
Four.
Those
four
thank
you.
H
So,
overall
percentage
male,
we
have
44.7
percent
and
percentage
female
is
55.3
percent,
and
this,
I
should
say,
is
as
of
updated
of
march
30th.
As
I
said
it
updates
daily.
We
have
the
in
terms
of
ethnicity
data.
H
We
have
48.1
white
30,
black
15
hispanic,
5
asian
1.5
percent
not
specified
this
racial
ethnic
data
is
self-disclosed
as
part
of
the
hiring
process.
So
folks
can
opt
out
of
this.
I
believe
that's
a
federal
law
and
then
so,
yes,
not
specified.
A
Question
yeah:
do
we
did
we
bring
sorry,
I
was:
did
we
bring
the
census,
updated
demographics
for
boston.
A
Can
we
get
it
please?
Thank
you.
I
All
right,
well,
first
of
all,
good
morning,
everybody,
madam
chair,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
all
of
you
and
to
the
idea
of
of
grace
want
to
know
publicly
too
that
I
think
this
is
day
89
for
the
new
counselors
who've
been
doing
a
great
job
and,
along
with
the
rest
of
the
council,
at
the
last
hearing,
which
was
last
friday
on
equity
and
city
contracts,
I
actually
believe
it
was
human.
I
A
Yep,
would
you
allow
me
I'm
sorry.
I
A
We've
been
joined
by
our
counselor
colleague,
brian
warrell.
Thank
you
for
coming.
I'm
sorry,
chief.
I
So
just
as
a
reiteration,
the
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
cabinet
contains
several
departments,
so
there's
the
department
of
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion,
there's
the
small
business
department,
the
department
of
supplier
diversity,
the
department
of
tourism
sports
and
entertainment
and
the
department
of
consumer
affairs
and
licensing,
and
in
total
there
are
86
people
that
work
combined
under
these
departments
and
just
spelling
it
out
by
ethnicity
and
then
gender.
I
So
for
the
total
of
the
departments,
roughly
9.3
percent
identify
as
asian-american
roughly
33
percent,
identify
as
black
or
african-american.
Roughly
18
percent
identify
as
hispanic
or
latinx
roughly
40
percent
identify
as
white
american,
and
there
were
no
unspecified
for
our
team
and
then
in
terms
of
gender.
Roughly
37
percent
identify
as
male
and
63
as
a
female.
I
I
Yes,
so
I'll
just
go
through
again
so
for
aapi.
Roughly
nine
percent
of
the
cabinet
identifies
a
api
33
percent
as
black
or
african-american.
I
I
All
right
and
then
in
terms
of
just
going
back
to
to
that
past,
slide
and
appreciate
counselor
braden,
bringing
up
small
businesses
and
counselor
wells
warehouse
participation
as
as
chair
of
that
committee.
So
in
terms
of
what
the
city
has
spent
to
date,
you'll
some
of
you
may
remember
this
particular
slide.
We
shared
this
back
in
january,
where
we
were
requesting
additional
funds
for
the
small
business
relief
fund
2.0.
I
I
updated
the
numbers
here
just
to
show
where
we
are
as
of
this
week
so
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
think
we're
around
30
million
we're
now
at
33
plus
million
dollars
that
the
city
has
awarded
to
date
through
all
of
the
funds
that
are
up
on
the
screen,
closing
in
on
around
6
000,
small
businesses
that
have
received
grants
and
then,
in
particular,
for
the
small
business
relief
fund.
I
You'll
note
that
around
11.6
million
dollars
have
been
expended
and
awarded
for
that
program
and
around
900
small
businesses
in
boston
have
been
awarded
and
going
on
to
the
next
slide.
These
are
some
rough
estimates
that
we
put
together
around
those
that
have
been
awarded
just
want
to
note
that
these
are
not
100
accurate,
because
we
are
continuing
to.
I
You
know,
make
sure
that
we're
going
through
the
data,
but
these
are
rough
numbers
here:
60
local
45
percent,
women-owned
businesses,
64
that
have
been
awarded
are
by
pac-owned
businesses,
36
identifying
as
immigrant
owned
businesses
and
three
percent
other
again
we'll
get
updated
numbers
to
the
council
and
the
public
after
that
fund
has
been
exhausted
and
then
again
some
of
these
next
slides
are
going
to
be
familiar.
We
shared
these
at
the
hearing
last
friday,
but
again
when
we
think
about
our
budget
and
how
we're
using
city
dollars.
I
Of
course,
contracting
is
a
piece
of
that,
and
so
you
know
again.
We
shared
last
week
of
how
we
are
launching
version
two
of
our
buying
plan
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
aware
of
the
opportunities
for
to
do
business
with
the
city,
and
you
know
as
we're
tracking
women
and
minority-owned
businesses,
lgbt-owned
businesses,
veteran-owned
businesses
etc.
I
The
way
for
us
to
do
that
is
to
ensure
that
our
businesses
are
certified,
and
so
again
these
slides
will
be
familiar
going
to
the
next
slide
of
showing
how
we're
trying
to
increase
the
amount
of
small
businesses
who
are
certified
with
the
city
so
that
we
are
making
these
opportunities
aware
to
them
and
and
awarding
where
possible.
I
I
From
last
week's
session,
820
000
has
been
awarded
so
far,
71
owned
by
people
of
color
52,
specifically
black
owned,
that
received
that
funding
and
and
became
newly
certified,
we'll
see
that
the
39
entities
became
newly
certified
with
the
city
of
boston,
making
sure
that
they
will
have
access
to
the
opportunities
available
through
our
discretionary
spend
and
then
the
next
slide
again
is
just
more
information
in
terms
of
equity
by
neighborhood,
roxbury
and
dorchester,
receiving
the
most
of
that
funding,
as
well
as
becoming
certified.
I
Rarely
know
about
the
opportunities
that
are
available
at
the
city,
so
excited
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
increase
those
numbers
and
again
the
numbers
broken
down
by
race
and
ethnicity,
in
terms
of
who
received
that
grant
funding
and
the
certain
number
of
certified
businesses
and
again,
the
next
few
slides
just
showing
again
from
last
week
and
we'll
note
that
the
council
will
be
receiving
not
only
the
slide
deck
but
responses
to
many
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
last
week
in
writing
from
our
shop
very
shortly.
I
So
this.
So
this
information
will
be
available,
but
just
showing
the
number
of
certified
businesses
in
our
wheelhouse
to
ensure
that
they
have
access
to
opportunities.
So
when
it
comes
to
the
budget
on
our
end,
we're
making
sure
well
what
will
be
available
and
when
the
budget
is
released,
but
making
sure
that
we
are
increasing
these
numbers
significantly
to
ensure
that
folks
have
more
access
to
our
discretionary
spend.
I
Oh,
that
might
be,
you
know
what
I
might
be
the
end
of
that
and
again
I'm
just
kind
of.
I
know
there
are
folks
tuned
in
so
I
apologize
for
kind
of
rushing
through
this,
but
I
also
know
we
want
to
get
to
public
testimony
again,
we'll
make
these
slides
available
to
all
via
our
page
boston.gov
department,
slash
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
again.
A
Thank
you
before
we
move
on
to
our
panelists
john
zoom
and
the
remaining
of
our
pals
chief
soliz
sivera.
Thank
you
has
also
joined
us
and
we'll
first
go
to
my
colleagues
for
a
round
of
questions.
If
we
can
do
at
least
one
question,
if
you
don't
have
any
questions,
it's
I
will
just
keep
going.
But
if
you
do
have
questions,
please
light
up
your
mic.
A
C
How
many
dollars
are
allotted
to
each
neighborhood?
I'm
just
curious
dorchester.
If
there's
a
way
for
us
to
kind
of
break
it
down
per
resident?
What
would
it
look
like
what
what's
the
difference
between
lower
mills
and
seven
hills?
C
What's
the
difference
between
optum's
corner
and
phil's
corner,
like
that
level
of
detail
for
just
analysis
would
be
really
helpful
because
dorchester
is
big,
so
it's
just
it'd
be
helpful
to
have
some
insight
around
that,
and
then
I
also
noticed
in
the
budget
surveys
the
primary
folks
who
participated,
identify
as
white
and
I'm
just
curious
about
what
are
we
doing
to
increase
engagement
and
participation
in
communities
of
color,
and
then
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
you
know.
C
I'm
always
unapologetically
talking
about
the
importance
of
being
equitable
and
uplifting
my
afro-latina
roots,
but
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
chief
I'm
curious
about
the
latino
efforts
that
that
number
was
a
little
bit
low
in
terms
of
engagement,
and
you
know
I
know
latinos
sometimes
don't
see
themselves
reflected
as
people
of
color.
So
there's
some
work
to
be
done
in
that
space,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
what
efforts
you're
going
to
be
making
to
really
lean
into
increasing
engagement
in
the
latino
specific
immigrant
owned
businesses.
C
C
So
can
you
just
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
more
about
you
know
I've
heard
from
several
latino
business
owners,
specifically
immigrant
ones,
that
that
there
needs
to
be
more
attention
put
into
the
latino
engagement.
That's.
I
C
In
the
business
sector
in
particular-
and
I
have
been
criticized
because
they've
said
that
I
am
focusing
primarily
on
just
black
and
what
they
fail
to
realize
is
that
we
are
black
too
but
anyways.
That
is
not
the
topic
of
conversation
right
now.
The
topic
of
conversation
is
what
are
we
going
to
be
doing
to
increase
the
engagement
participation,
resources
for
latino
specific
businesses
so
that
we
could
increase
that
number,
because
21
percent
is
pretty
low,
considering
how
many
latino
businesses
exist
in
the
city
of
boston?
Do
you
know
that
number.
C
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
is,
I
think,
it's
important
for
us
to
do
an
assessment
of
how
many
latino,
because
they're
running
multi-service,
centers
they're
running
you
know
they
have
a
lot
of
different
types
of
businesses,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
lean
in
a
little
bit
more
so
that
they
see
that
we're
making
an
effort
in
in
supporting
them
and
because
there's
significant
language
barriers.
C
You
know
this
is
also
a
conversation
around
information,
justice
and
language
access.
So
this
is
not
just
all
about
what
your
cabinet
is
going
to
be
doing,
because
I
think
everybody
in
the
city
needs
to
take
responsibility
for
that.
But
can
you
just
talk
to
me
about
what
your
vision
is?
Yes,
moving
forward
for
latino
business
engagement,.
I
And
I'll
say
a
couple
things,
one
is
one
reason
I
can
say
I
don't
have.
The
number
on
the
top
of
my
head
in
terms
of
the
number
of
businesses
owned
and
operated
by
different
ethnicities
across
the
city
is
because
we
don't
yet
have
numbers
post-pandemic
of
who
owns
what
the
numbers
I
would
have
in
my
head
are
from
before
the
pandemic,
and
I
think
it
would
be
misleading
to
say
you
know:
25
are
owned
by
whatever
group
went
after
the
pandemic.
I
So
when
it
comes
to
this
particular
grant
that
was
awarded
last
year,
you
know
yes,
I
think
more
needs
to
be
done
to
make
sure
that
not
just
and
I'm
not
to
say
just
latin
next.
I
The
reason
why
is
because
I
I
think
it's
a
language
thing
as
well,
if
we
were
to
look
at
the
black
part
of
me,
believes
that
haitian
americans,
you
know
other
ethnicities,
probably
if
we
broke
it
out
that
way,
we'd
see
low
numbers
there
too,
because
the
city
has
to
increase
its
efforts
to
address
language
issues,
as
you
just
mentioned.
For
us
it's
going
to
happen
through
partnerships,
I
mean
coming
into
this
role.
I
I
always
was
saying
that
the
city
tries
to
do
everything
by
itself,
rather
than
working
with
either
external
organizations
with
those
in
this
room,
sometimes
residents
on
the
ground
to
make
sure
that
information
is
getting
out.
So,
in
addition
to
what
we're
doing
in
terms
of
using
our
communication
methods,
it
is
going
to
be
around
the
folks
that
were
partnered
with
it
is
going
to
be
around
working
with
city
council
is
here.
I
C
Yeah
so
I'll
just
say,
one
last
thing
before
I
get
put
on
mute
is
that
I
know
our
office
was
super
intentional
about
supporting
immigrant
owned
businesses,
not
just
latino
ones,
but
all
immigrant
businesses,
and
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
an
area
of
growth
in
terms
of
how
we
can
measure
our
success
for
equity
and
then
I
would
also
just
like
to
point
out
that
matapan
in
one
of
the
slides
in
terms
of
grants-
and
while
I
was
excited
to
see
dorchester
again
and
roxbury-
has
high
numbers,
you
know
dorchester
is
very
diverse
right.
C
So
that
could
just
be
anyone.
But
I
I'm
curious
to
just
point
out
that
hyde
park
and
matapan
also
have
a
high
immigrant
population
of
the
afro
diaspora,
which
is
you
know,
jamaican
haitian.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
caribbeans
there.
So
I'd
like
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about.
You
know,
moving
ahead,
how
we're
going
to
increase.
I
Yes,
and
and
so-
and
just
one
last
thing
on
the
communication
piece,
because
this
is
a
reminder
of
our
conversation
last
week
of
following
up
with
your
office
on
the
whatsapp
piece,
because
again
you
know
on
the
language
piece:
it's
yes,
the
engagement
we
do
in
person,
but
we
also
have
to
look
at
the
communication
methods
and
channels
that
we're
using
and
right
now
it's
the
what
a
lot
of
folks
use.
I
Facebook,
social,
media,
email
phone,
but
we
have
to
look
at
other
communication
methods
that
are
used
by
other
populations
and
then,
in
terms
of
these
grants.
Yes,
dorchester
is
a
big
place,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate
these:
were
grants
to
to
make
sure
that
minority-owned
businesses,
women-owned
businesses,
immigrant
owned
businesses,
etc
became
certified
with
the
city,
and
so
you
know
yes,
we'll
do
more
to
focus
on
places
like
mattapan
and
hyde
park.
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else,
we'll
come
back
for
questions
for
I'm
sorry,
you
didn't
see.
I
didn't
see
a
light.
E
Blue
jen
yeah
before
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
actually
just
wanted
to
expound
on
some
points
that
that
julie
made.
I
know
for
I've
become
me.
I
mean.
I
know
that
for
planning
purposes,
dorchester
is
often
divided
into
two
neighborhoods,
at
least
from
the
bpda.
E
Grants
or
I
I
actually
think
this
question
may
be.
G
Yeah,
I
I
think
we
were
using
zip
code
so
that
that,
if
there
are
two
two
two
different
zip
codes,
that
you
know
that
we
might
be
able
to
break
it
down
and.
E
I
would
capture
it
yeah,
okay
and
then
just
a
clarification
question
before
chief
idol,
so
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
were
given
to
these
to
small
businesses
to
help
them
with
the
certification.
I
F
F
I
guess
my
my
question
is
for
immigrant
immigrant-owned
companies
and
immigrant-owned
companies
that
are
seeking
a
grant
from
the
city.
Are
there
any
conditions
that
might
preclude
them
from
not
being
awarded
a
grant
based
on
anything
relating
to
immigration,
related
issues
and
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
the
area
in
chinatown
I
represent.
Most
of
the
small
businesses
are
owned
by
immigrants,
but
I
just
wouldn't
want
to
see
a
small
business
not
receive
funding
based
on
some
type
of
immigration
challenge.
Basically,.
I
I
agree
with
you
counselor
and
appreciate
yourself
and
counselor
louisiana
joining
us
in
chinatown
that
that
day,
so
for
to
answer
your
question,
my
understanding
is
yes
that
they're,
you
know
if
they
don't
have
proper
documentation
from
secretary
of
state
or
city
of
boston,
that
it
might
preclude
them
from
from
being
able
to
apply
for
a
grant.
I
But
I
will
say
that
coming
into
this
role
and
having
that
understanding,
it
is
something
that
we
are
determined
to
address,
because
in
addition
to
that,
there
are
other
questions
that
the
chairwoman
has
asked
in
the
past
in
terms
of
owing
money
to
the
city,
and
that
also
precludes
them
and
for
my
office.
In
short,
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
we
are
removing
every
barrier
possible
because
the
businesses
that
need
it,
the
most-
are
the
ones
that
wind
up
not
being
able
to
apply
and
that's
something
that
we
intend
to
fix.
F
D
Brady.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
few,
I'm
interested
in
the
certified
businesses,
what
what
types
of
businesses
are
applying
for,
certification
and
then
and
also
you
know
in
terms
of
are,
are
you
offering,
in
addition
to
grants,
are
you
offering
technical
support
because
sometimes
getting
the
money
is
one
thing,
but
actually
utilizing
the
money
to
develop
your
capacity
is,
is
sometimes
a
challenge.
I
That's
right-
and
you
know
when
we
met
in
january,
requesting
additional
funding.
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
making
sure
that
we're
providing
more
adequate
technical
assistance
services
because
once
the
grant
money
runs
out,
this
is
federal
money,
and
so
once
those
dollars
are
expended,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
our
businesses
are
in
a
place
where
they
don't
have
to
keep
asking
for
grant
money,
but
instead
are
able
to
stand
up
and
and
survive
on
on
their
own.
I
With
you
know,
additional
city
support
like
contracts,
so
in
terms
of
services
and
different
areas
that
are
broken
down
down
into
I'm
happy
to
compile
that
list
and
share
with
you.
I
don't
have
those
numbers
with
me
today,
but
and
then
for
the
question
on
technical
assistance.
Yes,
the
small
business
team
provides
not
only
support
in
signing
up
for
grants
or
helping
people
start
their
businesses,
but
also
providing
technical
assistance
services.
A
variety.
A
You
so
much
just
for
oh
I'm,
so
sorry,
yep.
J
I
just
hit
it.
That's
all
right.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
to
the
panel
for
all
the
great
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
Just
one
question:
do
we
have
any
information
regarding
how
many
applicants
like
applied
for
the
small
business
grant
and
then
is
it
possible
to
break
that
down
by
demographic
and
location?
The
same
way
all
this
all
the
other
information
has
been
broken
down.
Yes,.
I
So
in
the
hearing
requesting
additional
funding,
we
had
those
numbers
to
date.
Then
I
don't
have
updated
numbers
in
terms
of
how
many
have
applied
but
happy
to
share
that
when
we
send
this
final
presentation
and
it
was
broken
down
by
ethnicity,
neighborhood
et
cetera,
so
we'll
we'll
get
that
information
to
you.
Thank.
J
A
Thank
you.
I
know
that
with
you
know,
you
do
have
you
do
calculate
who's
applying
and
who's
getting
rejected.
So
my
question
really
is,
though,
comparing
that
to
the
numbers
of
businesses
that
are
actually
closing
the
businesses
that
are
needed,
the
businesses
that
are
actually
being
sustained
and
are
we
looking
are
we
surveying
businesses
to
understand?
What's
happened,
what's
actually
happening
in
comparison
to
who
we're
helping.
I
So
in
terms
of
a
survey
that
asks
small
business
owners
why
they
may
have
closed
their
doors.
I
don't
believe
we
have
ever
done
something
like
that.
I
think
for
us,
we'd
wind
up
reaching
out
to
folks
to
ask
them
that,
as
opposed
to
sending
out
a
survey
and
then
in
terms
of
I'm
sorry,
I'm
forgetting
the
previous
question
to
that.
A
I
guess
if
we
know
how
many
businesses
we
that
actually
exist-
and
you
know
we
break
that
down
by
demographics,
then
we
can
compare
it
to
the
efforts
that
are
made
to
them.
It's
not
that
I
I
believe
that
it's
not
that
they're.
Actually,
don't
they
don't
need
the
support,
but
rather
the
access
right.
We
we
agree
that
some
of
this
is
bureaucratic
red
tape.
Some
of
it
is
that
they
even
haven't
even
heard
about
it.
A
I
So
I
mean
yes
you're,
correct
that
you
know
as
we're
collecting
that
data
we
can
make
those
matches.
I
know
that
with
you
know,
with
my
being
here,
we
are
working
to
increase
the
efforts
of
reaching
out
to
businesses
that
may
not
have
done
been
done
before,
especially
now
that
we
are
opening
back
up.
I
You
know
part
of
the
reason
for
these
walks
that
we're
doing
is
making
sure
that
we're
reaching
out
directly
to
businesses,
because
again,
some
of
the
ways
we
communicate
are
passive
right,
we'll
put
something
on
facebook,
we'll
put
something
on
twitter
and
expect
that
people
will
see
it.
That's
not
how
it
always
happens,
and
so
it
is
going
to
take
an
effort
to
get
directly
to
businesses
but
happy
to
take
under
advisement
how
we
are
better.
At
using
that
data
to
target
specific
places.
I
Well,
the
numbers
won't
always
be
accurate
because
everything
is
self-identification.
So
when
you
start
a
business,
you
know
you
know
so,
but
yes
I
mean
the
effort
is
going
to
be.
I
mean
again
coming
from
from
where
I
was
I
mean
the
effort
was
to
make
sure
folks
were
certified
et
cetera,
so
that
we
have
a
a
better
understanding
of
who's
out
there,
because
we
can't.
We
can't
address
the
issue
if
we
don't
know
how
many
and
where
etc,
to
your
point.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
have
more
questions,
but
we'll
stop
here
for
a
moment.
If
we
can
go
to
do.
We
have
folks
that
join
us
on
zoom
and
we
haven't
addressed
the
questions
that
I've
actually
submitted
to
the
different
departments
so
bear
with
us
we'll
listen
to
the
panelists,
go
to
the
public.
There's
only
three
people
waiting
for
testimony,
so
that
should
be
quick
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
panel
to
address
the
questions
that
was
originally
submitted
to
by
this
committee.
A
For
the
record,
the
this
committee
invited
the
panels
that
you
see
here
today.
In
addition,
bpd
someone
from
a
representative
from
bpda
doit
is
here
bps
bphc
and
I
think
the
only
one
that
we're
actually
missing
and
we
made
a
mistake
not
to
include
that
is
ons,
and
I
think
that's
also
super
important
to
understand
engagement,
future
engagement
initiatives.
A
So
I
have
a
list
here
and
I
guess
we
could
start
with
bpd.
A
A
K
A
So
I
can,
I
can
go
ahead
and
ask
just
for
the
interest
of
time
to
save
you.
Some
save
us
all
some
time,
and
so
I
think,
if
you
start
with
the
numbers,
the
question,
the
numbers
in
terms
of
demographics
in
the
boston
police
department,
as
well
as
your
top,
your
top
paid
people
so
for
the
top,
10
largest
contractors
or
employees.
A
Please
explain
the
efforts
to
getting
that
and
I
think
that
that
question
is
not
necessarily
the
contract
is
not
necessarily
for
you,
but
for
the
wage.
A
A
K
Okay,
I'll
start
with
the
first
question,
then
how,
in
what
ways
is
the
department
ensuring
civic
engagement
with
the
budget
development
process.
A
Yeah,
I
see,
I
see
what
you're
saying
they
weren't
divided
to
each
department.
K
If
you
can
point
those
ones
out,
because
that
the
questions
that
I
received
for
the
hearing,
madam
chair
was
all
the
questions,
so
we
answered
them
as
best
as
we
could,
so
they
weren't
they
weren't
broken
out
between
the
department.
At
least
the
copy
that
I
have
was
not.
A
Miss
o'brien,
that's
fine,
so
I
apologize
that
it
was
just
one
big
clump
of
questions
that
pertain
to
all
departments
in
the
city
of
boston
and
so
we're
going
to
go
straight
to
wage,
and
I
can
give
you
straight
questions
right
now
that
I
have,
and
hopefully
you
have
the
answers.
K
K
Right
now
we
have
1
812
sworn
officers
that
are
male
and
we
have
303
sworn
officers
that
are
female,
I'll
break
out
the
population
of
quarterly
in
terms
of
ethnicity.
We
have
1
220
officers
that
are
white
342
officers
that
are
black
male
201
officers
that
are
hispanic
male
and
49,
not
asian.
K
With
respect
to
the
female
officers
of
the
swan,
we
have
151
sworn
white
females,
105
black
sworn
females,
40
hispanic,
seven
asian.
Would
you
like
me
to
break
out
the
civilians
as
well.
K
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
so,
obviously,
the
makeup
of
of
our
department
is
primarily
sworn
officers
that
you
see
out
the
street.
However,
there
are
civilians
that
they'll
fill
many
positions
here
on
mainly
on
administrative
levels.
You
know
what
you
see
up
in
nine
moment:
operations
for
call
takers,
the
dispatchers
all
the
administrative
offices
here,
such
as
payroll
public
service
window
fleet
facilities,
telecommunications
isg,
for
the
majority
of
those
positions.
We
can
see
them
in
administrative
and
tech,
technological
positions.
K
A
K
Sure,
of
course,
so
of
the
sworn
officers,
86
percent
of
male
of
that
86
89
are
white.
77
percent
of
black
83
are
hispanic
and
88
are
asian
of
the
female
of
the
female
population.
14
of
the
215
officers
that
we
currently
have
14
percent
of
female
at
14
percent
makes
up
of
11
white
officers,
23
percent
black
17
percent
hispanic
and
13
percent
asian.
K
So
in
total
we
have
707
civilians
of
that
number.
35
are
male
of
that
35
percent
38
are
white,
23
percent
of
black
37
are
hispanic
and
65
percent
are
asian
65
percent.
That
707
are
female
civilians,
62
percent
of
white
77
percent
of
black
63
are
hispanic
and
35
percent
are
asian.
L
K
A
K
Much
I
I
can
also
give
you,
madam
chair,
the
breakdown
two
of
the
ranks
between
female
and
male,
along
with
their
ethnicity
as
well,
that
that
will
help
you.
K
A
L
A
Is
michelle
goldberg
deputy
director
of
I'm
sorry,
not
michelle?
Why
are
you
here
michelle
goldberg
on
zoom,
it's
another
michelle,
okay,
great
hello,.
M
A
Just
two
of
you
all
right,
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
if
you
can,
in
the
same,
in
the
same
respect,
if
you
can
also
answer
the
questions
that
pertain
to
your
department,.
M
A
Oh
absolutely,
please
feel
feel
comfortable
to
say
whatever
you
need
to
say
and.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
members
of
the
council,
members
of
the
audience.
My
name
is
michelle
goldberg.
I
am
the
interim
director
of
finance
for
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency.
I've
been
with
the
city
of
boston
since
2011
and
actually
worked
with
several
folks
panels.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
calling
this
hearing
as
a
self-sustaining
organization.
The
bpda
is
made
up
of
five
business
units.
M
We
have
the
economic
development
industrial
corporation
of
boston,
which
includes
the
mayor's
office
of
workforce
development.
We
also
have
some
501c3s
and,
of
course,
the
boston
redevelopment
authority
from
a
budget
sources
and
uses
perspective.
The
bpda
is
self-sustaining
and
does
not
receive
funds
directly
from
city
council.
M
We
receive
federal
grants
and
push
those
through
to
community-based
organizations
for
contractual
services
that
support
job
readiness,
programs,
tuition,
reimbursement
programs,
child
savings
accounts
there's
an
extraordinary
amount
of
work
that
goes
on
through
the
office
workforce
development.
We
do
join
in
the
city
council
process
and
traditionally
bring
a
lot
of
information
at
that
time.
A
M
So
I
believe
the
first
question
how
and
in
what
way,
is
the
department
ensuring
civic
engagement
with
the
budget
development
process?
That's
a
great
question:
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency
reports
to
a
board
of
directors.
We
bring
our
board
that
budget.
I
believe
this
year,
it's
june
16th,
upon
sharing
that
with
the
board.
We
then
are
able
to
go
and
have
that
process
with
city
council
as
well,
and,
let's
see
what
is
so
sorry
click
it
around
here.
M
Question
two:
I
believe
that
the
department
works
very
closely
with
the
mayor
around
climate
resiliency,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
racial
equity.
Our
planning
department
has
an
entire
unit
that
focuses
on
climate
resiliency
and
we'd
be
happy
to
bring
more
information
about
that.
M
M
We
do
have
some
personnel
data
that
we
are
able
to
email
along
some
of
the
information
listed
here.
I
don't
believe
we
collect
at
this
time,
so
we're
happy
to
share
that
as
well.
We've
been
working
very
hard
on
the
the
demographics
around
our
contractors.
We
did
participate
in
the
2018
disparity
study
with
the
city.
Of
course
our
spend
is
separate
and
apart
and
so
the
characteristics
of
our
data
is
unique.
M
We
have
put
in
place
an
equitable
procurement
plan
and
have
been
working
to
roll
that
out
throughout
all
of
the
levels
of
spending
in
our
agency
to
make
sure
that
we
take
into
account
the
availability
data.
I
think
you
know
many
counselors
have
pointed
to
this.
You
know
who's
out
there.
How
can
we
be
sure
exactly
who's
missing
out
availability
data?
M
Disparity
studies
are
a
critical
part
of
answering
some
of
those
questions
and
we're
really
excited
about
the
progress
that
we've
made
and
I'd
be
happy
to
share
some
of
our
quarterly
reports
that
we've
brought
to
our
board
of
directors
as
well
scrolling
through
here,
ms
goldberg,
should
I
pause?
Yes,
ma'am.
A
Please,
can
you
give
me
the
report,
I'm
happy
that
you're
working
so
diligently
to
ensure
it.
Can
you
give
me
the
report,
the
actual
demographics
and
of
your
agency.
M
Yes,
let
me
open
up
my
email
here.
I
will
download
this
file
from
our
internal
system
and
I'll
send
that
right
over.
N
A
O
Hi
good
morning
counselor,
my
name
is
nathan
cooter,
I'm
the
chief
financial
officer
for
the
boston
public
schools.
It's
nice
to
be
here
with
you
this
morning.
I
I'm
sort
of
having
this
feeling
of
a
recurring
dream.
I
have
when
I
feel
unprepared
that
I
show
up
for
an
economics
test
and
it
turns
out
it's
a
literature
test.
O
I
had
prepared
this
morning
to
to
talk
with
you
a
lot
about
how
we
embed
racial
equity
into
our
strategy
of
budgeting
and
the
engagement
that
we
do
as
part
of
our
process,
so
not
prepared
to
share
with
you
the
information,
but
I've
had
some
time
and
and
recommend
people
in
the
public
go
and
view
the
dashboard
that
the
city
folks
shared
there.
You
can
see
our
over
11
000
employees
in
the
boston,
public
school,
broken
down
by
demographic
groups,.
O
Yeah
absolutely
happy
to
share
the
the
link
that
was
in
the
presentation
this
morning
as
well.
We
also
on
may
2nd.
We
have
a
number
of
hearings
coming
up
about
the
boston
hope.
Mr.
H
City
moment,
mr
carter.
Yes,
sorry
in
the
in
the
slide
that
I
had
a
screenshot
of
the
demographics
dashboard,
there's
a
link
that
would
allow
you
to
sort
by
the
to
see
the
information
that
includes
bps,
and
you
could
also
see
the
public
safety
agencies
in
that
link.
Thank
you.
I.
A
A
O
The
link
that
I
was
referring
to
was
in
the
presentation
from
the
city
this
morning
and
is
on
the
city's
website.
The
fairly
long
link
is
I'm
happy
to
read
it.
If
that's
that's
helpful,
so
I
could.
O
Austin.Gov
the
city's
website
and
then
what.
O
I
accessed
it
directly
from
the
link
referred
to
in
the
which
was
boston.gov
departments,
slash
diversity,.
O
I'm
happy
to.
I
also
think
it
might
might
be
more
helpful
for
me
to
follow
up
afterwards
with
this
committee
to
share
updated
information
from
our
office
of
human
capital
in
the
same
way
that
the
police
department,
shared
information,
broken
down
between
civilian
and
uniformed
officers,
oftentimes,
we
get
questions
and
can
break
it
down
based
on
teaching
staff
versus
overall
department.
I
don't
have
that
information
for
you
this
morning.
O
In
a
few
weeks,
we
do
have
a
hearing
on
may
2nd,
specifically
focus
on
bps
operations
in
which
human
capital
and
our
recruitment
and
cultural
diversity
office
will
be
prepared
to
answer
any
of
your
questions
about
the
breakdown
of
race
and
ethnicity,
in
the
boston,
public
schools
and
then
also
our
extensive
efforts
to
recruit
educators
of
color
throughout
the
district
and
educators,
with
different
language
capacity.
A
O
O
No,
I
need
to
come
back
with
that
information
to
be
able
to
break
them
down
by
teaching
staff
for
school-based
staff.
If
there's
a
number
of
ways
that
we
can
break
this
information
down
if
you'd
like,
let
me
know
what
what
version
you'd
like
and
we're
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
with
the
team
to
provide
that,
for
you.
A
O
Yeah
absolutely
first
question
was
around
how
the
ways
in
which
the
department
ensures
civic
engagement
within
the
budget
development
process.
This
is
the
boston
public
schools.
Budget
process
begins
in
earnest,
really
in
late
october,
early
november,
working
directly
with
school
communities,
in
particular
school
leaders
on
their
enrollment
projections,
and
then
we
release
our
initial
budget
planning
information
to
schools
in
mid-december
as
part
of
individual
schools
budget
process,
they
engage
with
their
school
site
councils,
which
is
what
is
often
referred
to
colloquially
as
the
pta
or
the
parent
teacher
organizations
in
boston.
O
They
then
individual
schools
submit
their
budget
proposals
to
and
their
their
budgets
to
the
budget
office
in
the
first
week
of
january,
and
we
engage
with
schools
in
a
cross-functional
group
here
in
the
central
office
to
help
them
work
through
their
budget
balance,
their
budgets
that
all
leads
up
to
us,
presenting
a
balanced
budget
to
the
boston
school
committee,
the
first
wednesday
in
february.
That's
a
state
law
that
requires
us
to
present
the
budget
on
that
timetable
from
the
first
wednesday
in
february,
through
the
end
of
march,
which
happened
last
wednesday.
O
I
believe
I
have
the
date
correct.
The
boston
school
committee
engages
in
a
public
hearing
process
for
six
weeks
where
we
have
three
separate
hearings,
specifically
on
the
bps
budget,
and
then
we
have
various
budget
discussions
at
the
regularly
scheduled
school
committee.
Hearings
that
happen
throughout
that
period.
O
At
those
public
hearings,
we
have
one
focused
on
school
budgets,
specifically
so
those
things
that
are
budgeted
directly
in
schools
and
are
managed
by
our
our
school
leaders.
And
then
we
have
a
hearing
on
central
office
budgets.
It's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
engage
directly
with
our
community
and
hear
feedback
from
from
school
leaders,
hear
feedback
from
school
communities,
and
it
often
helps
us
shape
different
parts
of
our
budget
and
refine
our
budget
for
the
final
proposal.
O
Once
we've
completed
that
process,
we
then
start
with
the
city
council
and
excited
to
begin,
as
I
mentioned
in
a
couple
weeks,
our
public
process
with
the
city
in
the
city
council
and
then
throughout
the
year
we
have
a
number
of
different
constituent
groups:
citywide
parent
council,
the
the
special
education
parent
council,
sped
pac,
the
english
learner
task
force,
where
we
will
find
opportunities
to
engage
with
them
about
the
budget
and
make
sure
we're
hearing
from
constituents.
O
And
the
last
thing
I
just
want
to
mention
it's
something
that
I'm
tremendously
excited
about.
We
are
launching
what
we
are
calling
the
reimagine
funding
project
for
the
boston
public
schools,
which
is
going
to
be
a
public
process
for
getting
feedback
on,
how
we
allocate
money
directly
to
schools
and
how
we
fund
our
schools.
O
The
superintendent
has
been
talking
a
lot
about
what
she
calls
her
quality
guarantee,
which
is
guaranteed
set
of
opportunities
and
services
at
each
of
our
schools.
This
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
engage
in
that
process,
there's
so
much
of
our
budget.
That
is
based
on
how
we
allocate
money
directly
to
schools.
O
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
transformative
opportunity
for
us
to
engage
directly
with
the
community
on
what
their
vision
is
for,
how
we
allocate
to
schools
and
how
we
can
ensure
both
our
racial
equity
strategy
and
then
also
our
educational
strategies
can
be
merged
in
our
funding
allocation.
O
The
dr
charles
granson,
who's,
our
chief
of
equity
strategy
and
opportunity
gaps
has
done
tremendous
work
to
embed
the
racial
equity
planning
tool,
which
is
a
a
new,
a
relatively
new
tool
that
we
use
for
planning
for
all
projects
and
all
major
initiatives
at
the
boston
public
schools.
It's
a
multi-step
process
to
ensure
that
we
are
doing
the
necessary
work
to
ask
ourselves
difficult
questions
and
plan
to
support
our
most
vulnerable
students
and
those
who
have
been
historically
marginalized,
and
so
the
racial
equity
planning
process
has
been
used
throughout
the
budget
planning
process.
O
O
But
then
we
also
look
at
mitigating
strategies
for
any
impact
on
school
communities.
The
racial
equity
planning
tool
in
the
budget
process
has
really
led
to
both
shifts
in
how
we
do
budgeting
and
how
we
operate
as
a
finance
team,
but
it's
also
led
to
us
supporting
schools
more
through
enrollment
to
clients.
Something
that
we'll
be
talking
about
throughout.
Our
hearings
is
the
fact
that
boston
public
schools
has
lost
a
significant
amount
of
enrollment
over
the
last
few
years.
A
O
A
Yes
and
that's
okay,
we
all
have
different
styles,
especially
when
we're
reading
that
happens.
To
me
too,
however,
I
think
that
we
have
to
get
to
the
nitty-gritty
of
things,
and
so
it's
come
to
me
that
I
or
I'm
I'm
I'm
learning
right
now
that
this
is
this.
Is
the
performative
stuff
that
we
all
do?
I
do
it
too,
and
it
doesn't
work
like
in
order
for
us
to
really
get
to
the
math,
to
really
understand
your
efforts.
A
A
It's
not
the
best
use
of
our
time
and
that's
for
all
the
departments.
Right.
If
you
do
this
and
I
say
bpda
and
then
I
say
everybody
does
it
that's
not
going
to
help
us
so
we'd
like
to
get
straight
to
the
point,
I'm
going
to
ask
that
you
please
send
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
how
much
time
you
need
in
order
to
actually
answer
the
questions
and
submit
a
report
to
me
before
the
next
time
we
meet.
O
The
question
I
have
for
you,
it
would
be.
How
would
you
like
the
information
broken
down
by
what
subgroups
within
bps?
I
think
you
would
ask
you'd
mention:
can
we
see
it
by
job
roles
and
responsibilities?
It'd
be
helpful
to
know
if
there
are.
If
there
are
categories
of
employees
that
you'd
like
and
then
I
can
work
with
human
capital
team
to
get
it
back
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Yeah
so
faculty
admin
teachers
and
if
there's
still
any
security
or
yeah,
that's
that's
the
three
major
ones
and
then
break
it
down
like
and
then
I'm
going
to
again,
I'm
going
to
send
you
a
follow-up
email
that
is
going
to
give
you
specifics
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
you
just
two
or
three
questions
on
how
are
you
measuring
it
and
what
efforts
are
you
making
to
to
make
it
better,
because
I
think
we
got
an
idea
of
what
exists,
but
I
need
to
see
it
on
paper
and
I
need
that
ahead
of
time.
O
A
I,
what
do
you
think
about
a
week?
I
think
a
week
is
good
because
we're
just
asking
for
numbers
and
what
what
you
have
information
that
you
should
have.
A
O
Appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
prep
ahead
of
time
and
look
forward
to
coming.
A
A
What
I
want
is
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
to
the
point
in
the
budget
hearings
where
we're
answering
the
questions,
because
the
frustrations
from
from
the
council
that
I've
been
hearing
in
the
past
is
that
the
questions
don't
get
answered
and
then
there's
like
this
big
presentation,
and
then
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
hearing
each
other.
And
then
we
ask
questions.
That's
been
asked
already
because
nobody's
really
listening
and
then
it
doesn't
work.
O
Yes,
my
goal
is
to
answer
all
of
your
questions
when
asked
I
apologize
that
I
did
not
understand
the
questions
that
were
going
to
be
asked
of
me
today,
so
I
don't
have
the
information
prepared.
I
will
work
with
the
office
of
human
capital
to
get
you
the
answers
as
soon
as
possible.
I
think
certainly
a
week
sounds
reasonable,
and
and
and
certainly
we
will
be
prepared
to
answer
more
questions
at
the
hearings
just
starting
in
a
few
weeks.
A
O
Because
my
goal
is,
is
the
same
as
yours:
I
want
to
be
very
transparent
and
provide
you
with
answers
to
your
questions.
I'm
not
I'm,
certainly
not
here,
to
to
run
out
the
clock
or
not
answer
your
questions.
I
I
was
genuinely
trying
to
answer
the
question
that
you
had
asked,
and
so
I
apologize
if
it
didn't
come
across
that
way
and
look
forward
to
being
more
prepared
for
the
hearings
in
a
few
weeks.
A
A
L
A
Okay,
mr
cutter,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
return
to
a
follow-up,
and
I
hope
that
I
hope
that
you
can
send
me
something
in
advance
so
that
we
can
review
it
in
a
working
session
and
we're
gonna
keep
going
until
we
have
it.
So
we
really
need.
We
really
need
the
the
questions
answered
and
I'm
I
I
apologize
if
the
questions
were
not
communicated
in
the
way
that
you
understood
them.
B
O
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much!
I'm
sorry
before
you
go
mr
cutter.
Did
he
did
he
go?
Are
you
there
constantly
louisiana?
I'm
sorry
before
we
move
on.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
mr
cutter.
E
I
I
don't
at
the
moment
sorry,
I
had
to
step
out
for
a
call.
I
did
just
just
a
pin
something
that
I
am
very
much
interested
in
learning
about
the
resources
resource
allocation
to
recruitment
and
retention
of
teachers
of
of
color.
It's
like
vitally
important
that
we
put
our
resources
as
much
as
possible
there.
So
during
the
the
hearings
that
we
will
have
during
the
budget
season,
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
very
excited
to
talk
about
that.
So
thank
you.
O
Great,
if
I
could,
I
don't,
I
don't
know
if
now
it's
the
right
time,
but
as
part
of
our
final
budget
proposal,
the
superintendent
asked
us
to
identify
an
additional
resources
going
specifically
to
recruitment
and
cultural
diversity
team
to
be
able
to
recruit
and
retain
educators
of
color.
A
Can
we
hear.
A
Now,
from
I'm
sorry,
we
do
have
to
go
to
a
public
to
have
public
testimony
because
they've
been
waiting
and
one.
I
think
that
someone
is
on
a
schedule
to
leave
so
armani
if
we
can
join
if
we
can
add
armani
as
a
panelist,
so
that
we
can
hear
from
him.
A
Welcome,
please
introduce
yourself
and
give
us
your
testimony.
P
Hi,
thank
you
councilor
fernandez
anderson
for
having
this
hearing
today
and
for
inviting
me
my
name
is
armani
white.
I'm
the
director
of
municipal
democracy
at
the
center
for
economic
democracy,
and
we
were
co-chairs
in
the
campaign
for
a
better
budget
along
with
right
to
the
city,
boston
and
femi's,
for
just
as
healing
who
wanted
to
be
here
today
were
unable
to
make
it.
P
We
were
proud
to
advance
the
better
budget
campaign
and
see
over
88
000
residents
of
boston
vote
in
support
of
improving
the
budget
process,
and
so
I
think
that
that
those
votes
in
this
discussion
today
is
in
the
spirit
of
improving,
as
you
counselor
finance
anderson,
have
said,
the
budget
process
to
make
it
more
equitable
and
have
more
input
from
residents.
So
we're
proud
to
be
working
with
the
administration
and
with
you,
counselor,
anderson
and
other
counselors,
on
on
the
participatory
budgeting
process.
P
That
will
be
coming
soon
as
a
element
of
how
we'll
bring
budgeting
and
equity
to
the
to
the
community.
So
just
really
excited
for
this
year
and
proud
of
the
commitment
that
we're
hearing
around
equity-
and
I
know
we
have
not
seen
the
new
budget
and
that's
coming
out,
but
we're
just
really
excited
to
to
have
participated
budgeting,
but
then
also
in
general,
a
focus
on
equity
and
racial
justice
in
this
budget.
P
So
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
hearing
and
for
inviting
us
and
yeah
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
more
of
these
soon.
Thanks.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
white.
If
we
do,
we
have
any
more
people
on
the
panel,
for
I
mean
for
public
testimony.
Anyone
else.
A
Thank
you
can
we
hear
from
and
for
the
panelists
they're
still
here.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bearing
with
us.
It
is
a
long
hearing
and
I
think
that
we'll
go
after
we
hear
from
our
public
testimonies
we'll
go
back
to
the
panelists,
and
I
think
that
counselors
that
are
remaining,
we
can
ask
some
questions
and
then
close
it
for
today
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
have
to
do
round
two,
so
I
think
that's
probably
better
use
of
our
time
can,
can
we
add
diane
wilkerson
senator
wilkins
wilkerson.
N
A
Good
afternoon
senator
can,
can
you
please
give
your
introduction
and
testimony.
N
I
will
and
madam
chair
I
apologize
for
my
lighting,
I'm
not
near
my
strobe
light
or
whatever
that
thing
we
use
it's
upstairs
and
I
didn't
want
to
miss
this.
I've
been
on
from
the
beginning.
First
is
just
to
say
thank
you
for
really
the
wisdom
to
do
this
now
I
know
you
started
saying
some
people
were
questioning,
why?
Why
are
we
doing
this
step
from
the
budget?
N
I
think
this
testimony
is
is
reason
enough
to
justify
why
we
are
doing
it
before
you
get
to
conversations
about
the
budget
if
equity
means
anything
and
the
conversation
and
suggestions
are
going
to
be
helpful,
it
would
make
more
sense
to
have
it
before
the
budget,
and
so
I
thank
you
for
this.
I
thank
you
for
the
thank
the
counselors
who
are
who
spent
their
friday
sitting
here.
Just
a
few
points,
and
I
want
to
hear
the
rest
of
the
presentations.
N
The
the
whole
issue
of
of
equity
in
our
budget
is,
is
really
going
to
be
for
the
city
of
boston
to
test
of
of
how
close
we're
going
to
come
to
what
everyone
says
they
want
to
do.
I
think
that
you
said
that
I
think
I
heard
that
from
councillor
braden
at
the
outset,
but
our
challenge,
the
challenge-
is
not
so
much
about
finding
out
what
residents
want
what
black
and
latino
residents
want
in
a
survey
you'll
find,
I
suspect,
is
going
to
be
the
same
as
everyone
else.
N
Our
issue
is
is
how
we
get
it,
because
how
it's
been
provided
and
how
the
services
have
been
distributed
clearly
hasn't
worked
the
regular
way.
So
we
have
to
do
something
different
and
I
think
the
first
different
thing
we
do
is
to
have
a
conversation
about
this
before
you
get
to
the
budget.
So
again,
I
thank
you
for
that.
The
other
point
is
that,
just
by
way
of
of
of
focusing
the
attention-
and
I
think
councilworld
was
was
was
was
touching
on
this.
N
You
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
about
what
support
the
city
gives
to
its
people.
What
we
haven't
talked
about
is
how
the
city
spends
its
money
and
the
only
way
that
we're
going
to
get
to
true
equity
and
outcome
is
through
procurement
and
through
better
management,
focus
and
monitoring
of
how
we're
spending
our
money-
and
I
hope
that
that
that
is
kind
of
top
of
mind.
For
you,
the
city
of
boston
has
nearly
700
million
dollars
on
an
annual
basis
that
it's
spending
in
contracting,
and
you
know
the
last
time
we
counted.
N
I
think
we
were
at
a
half
of
a
half
a
percent
or
maybe
a
total
of
one
percent
for
black
and
latino
businesses,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
flag
for
the
council
is
that
number
one.
It's
been
a
challenge
for
the
community
for
us.
I
know
I
have
made
three
written
requests
at
this
point
for
an
update
on
city
spending
for
black
and
latino
businesses
during
covet.
N
If
we
just
looked
at
the
last
two
years
and
all
I
think
the
city
is
close
to
a
billion
and
maybe
a
little
over
a
billion
dollars
and
covets
spending
just
in
the
last
22
months,
I
think
it's
a
legitimate
appropriate
question
to
ask
how
we
spent
it.
How
we
are
spending
it
now,
because
the
one
thing
that
is
different
has
been
different
for
the
last
two
years.
N
Is
that
we've
been
spending
the
city's
been
spending
this
money,
the
covid
money
in
a
declaration
of
emergency,
which
means
they
didn't
even
need
to
have
a
bidding
in
process?
That
means
that
there
are
a
lot
of
agencies
and
departments
in
city
government
who
picked
up
the
phone
in
their
procurement
office
and
called
somebody
some
company
to
say
we
need
x,
and
so
we
have
a
right
to
know
who
you
called
and
how
much
you
spent
on
them.
N
We
haven't
had
a
report
since
january
of
2020
and
there's
lots
more
money
to
spend,
and
I
would
think
that
part
of
the
budget
process
for
you,
madam
chair,
I
would
ask,
is
that
you
consider
doing
a
hearing
of
all
the
city's
procurement
officers
and
getting
them
before
the
council.
So
you
can
ask
them
how
what's
the
process,
how
are
they
making
their
decisions
on
how
they
spend
their
money?
N
It's
wonderful
that
we
are
giving
support
to
so
many
businesses
around
technical
assistance,
but
the
bottom
line
is
how
many
of
those
businesses
are
we
doing
business
with
we
do
we
have
4
400
contractors
that
do
business
with
the
city
of
boston.
We
also
have
a
boston
quarry
ordinance,
which
requires
some
form
of
activity
and
a
process
for
those
businesses,
who's
monitoring
that
what's
the
report
on
that,
how
much
money
you
know
does
this
is
the
boston,
public,
school
spending
and
all
of
their
corey
spinach's
with
black
and
latino
businesses.
N
How
much
money
is
the
city
of
boston
spending
and
if
they
can't
answer
that,
they
can't
answer
that.
You
know
that.
That's
that's
the
bottom
line,
and
so
you
know
if,
if,
if,
if
the
certification
process
for
black
latino
women
and
businesses
doesn't
lead
you
to
business,
I'm
clear
that
it
helps
you
get
technical
assistance
money,
but
that's
not
what
businesses
go
into
business,
for
they
go
into
business,
to
get
contracts
and
sell
goods
or
services
or
products
and
make
money.
N
I
think
I
would
ask
you
my
final
question
madam
chair
is
to
ask
them
to
report
how
much
they've
spent.
We
don't
know
that
none
of
this
makes
any
difference.
That's
how
we
get
to
echo.
A
A
I
think
that
you
know
my
my
next
set
of
questions
were
to
go
to
our
chief
of
equity
and
she's
obviously
had
reasons
to
leave
early.
Unfortunately,
this
hearing
does
take
time.
It
was
scheduled
from
10
a.m
to
1
p.m.
I'm
not
sure
why
she
had
to
leave.
I'm
sure
she
had
other
things
to
do
so,
we'll
go
on
to
I
I
don't
expect.
Mr
williamson,
I
don't
expect
you
to
answer
questions
on
equity.
We
were
going
to
go
into
that
this.
That's
the
whole
point
of
this
hearing.
A
A
Because
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
where,
if
she's
coming
back
and
then
I
think
counselor
lujan,
if
you
have
any
questions
at
this
time,
we'll
go
to
that
and
then
I'll
ask
my
final
questions,
and
we
close
after
that.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
had
a.
I
think
I
have
two
three
comments.
One
is
I
like
the
idea,
chief
edo,
when
you
were
talking
about
how
the
city
needs
to
figure
out
how
to
work
better
in
partnership,
especially
around
these
budget
conversations,
because
not
only
in
these
hearings
is
there?
E
Probably,
you
know
you
know
white
residents
disproportionately
represented
in
who
shows
up
the
hearings,
but
if
you
probably
also
stratified
it
by
income,
those
who
are
middle
and
high
income
are
probably
overrepresented
as
well,
and
I
just
ideas
about
you
know
we
made
you
know
the
23
and
the
28,
the
29.
Those
buses
are
free
like
we.
How
do
we
talk
to
people
who
are
engaging
in
riding
our
buses
in
our
public
transportation
system?
E
We're
asking
them
if
they,
you
know
like
that,
the
23,
28
and
29
are
are
free
now,
but
there
are
more
questions
we
can
ask
them,
and
I
think
that
meeting
people
directly
where
they
are
that's
one
opportunity
of
course
working
with
churches
to
really
inject
ourselves
in
community.
E
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
the
administration
is
thinking
about
that
and
again
it's
this
whole
idea
of
getting
city
hall
out
of
city
hall,
so
that
we
meet
people
in
spaces
where
they're
comfortable
to
talk
about
what
they
need
and,
and
then
just.
E
The
second
comment
is
the
importance
of
this
conversation
and
both
looking
internally
and
externally,
both
looking
at
our
our
policies,
our
policies
regarding
equity
and
hiring
in
the
city
and
how
we're
spending
our
dollars
and
and
how
those
values
are
reflected
in
each
department
and
when
it
comes
to.
You
know
how
we're
how
we
are
allocating
resources
to
neighborhoods
and
how
we
are
using
our
city
dollars.
E
I
know
that
it's
not
an
easy
task,
but
that
is
the
task
at
hand,
and
I
appreciate
you
all
for
being
here
and
I
appreciate
the
chair
for
for
holding
this
I'm
hearing.
It
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
data
and
a
lot
of
questions
that
we
still
need
to
get
from
a
lot
of
the
different
departments.
And
hopefully,
when
you
get
that
madam
chair,
you
share
with
all
of
us
that
we
do
have
numbers
to
look
at,
because
it
is
a
lot
easier
when
we,
when
we
have
it.
E
So
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
throughout
the
budget
season
to
make
sure
that
we
are
serving
the
needs
of
our
neighbors
and
neighborhoods
that
have
been
historically
excluded
from
these
conversations.
So
thank
you.
E
C
A
A
No
worries,
questions,
questions
I'll,
have
some
final
questions.
I
think
we
need
to
still
address
bpdhc
and
then
we'll
yes,.
C
So,
okay,
just
some
things
for
us
to
ponder
on
right.
This
is
the
challenge
that
I
I'm
hoping
we
can
all
lean
into.
I
do
really
appreciate
the
effort
that
is
made
to
engage
folks
and
to
counselor
louis
jen's
point
in
regards
of
where
we
find
folks.
C
I
think
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
our
office
has
been
super
intentional
about
is
educating
people,
that
these
are
their
dollars
right.
This
is
their
money,
while
we
are
where
we've
been
elected
to
vote
on
the
budget,
the
fact
of
the
matter
is:
is
that
the
folks
need
to
inform
that
right.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
zoom
options.
I
think
that
there
is
a
lot
that
we
can
do
in
terms
of
civic
engagement
that
goes
beyond
just
hitting
the
streets.
C
So
I
think
that
there
is
some
opportunity
there,
especially
around
the
fact
that
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
increase
diversity,
and
while
I
appreciate
the
numbers,
fifty
percent,
this
and
thirty
percent-
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
we
break
down
those
numbers
even
further,
and
we
look
at
what
type
of
positions
are
our
folks
are
holding
then
there's
some
equity
issues
there
when
we
really
unpack
the
data.
C
So
I
think
that
there's
some
work
to
be
done
in
that
space
and
the
other
piece
that
I
just
would
like
to
uplift
is
that
this
will
be
my
third
budget
season
situation
right.
The
first
one
was
crazy,
the
second
one
I
learned
how
it
works,
and
this
one
you
know,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
important
for
the
administration
to
recognize
what
this
moment
is
calling
for
and
to
meet
that
moment
with
a
big
dollar
amount
and
and
I'm
going
to
encourage
nate
if
he's
still
on
in
particular
mr
cruder
krueger
krueger.
C
Are
you
there?
Yes,
that's
right
me,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
going
to
survive
this,
this
series
of
education
budget,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
especially
bps,
because
I
am
the
chair
of
education.
C
Look
I
when
it's
time
for
us
to
ask
our
questions.
I
really
would
like
very
yes
or
no
answers.
I
don't
want
to
spend
my
seven
minutes
being
held
hostage
by
one
answer.
I'm
just
not
going
to
tolerate
that
and
I
want
to
go
on
the
record
to
let
you
know
that
if
that's
what
I'm
going
to
hear,
I'm
going
to
be
interrupting
every
step
of
the
way.
C
So
I
I
want
to
just
put
it
out
there
for
anyone
who's
listening,
because
that
is
what
has
been
my
experience
and
every
budget
hearing
that
I've
had
to
endure
is
that
we
get
held
hostage
and
then
seven
minutes
are
up
and
I
still
have
a
whole
bunch
of
the
questions
right.
So
we're
not
going
to
do
that,
especially
in
the
education
one.
C
I
think
it's
really
important,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward,
because
it
is
very
frustrating
when
people
are
trying
to
get
into
the
weeds
of
things
and
it
just
we
don't
get
anywhere
so
neil,
I'm
speaking
to
you,
too,
you
can
make
sure
that
these
folks
come
ready
to
answer
the
question
and
then
the
last
thing
that
that
I
would
say
is
in
regards
to
just
the
overall
intentionality
around
this
specific
hearing
that
we're
having
right
now
in
terms
of
an
equity
lens.
C
It
would
be
helpful
for
me
because
the
way
I'm
I'm
a
visual
learner,
I
would
like
to
see
if
ex
I
I
see
that
chinatown
and
the
south
end
and
certain
parts
of
the
city
has
more
dollars
than
others,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
got
this
one
but
the
I
don't
know
what
the
stock
document
is
called.
But
it's
the
multiple
neighborhoods
for
the
capital
is
this
for
capital.
C
Okay:
this
is
the
capital
budget,
one
I'm
a
city-wide
account
at
large
counselor.
So
you
know,
I'm
always
going
to
defer
to
my
district
colleagues
to
advocate
for
the
things
that
they
want
to
see
in
terms
of
capital
improvement,
but
I
am
a
little
bit
curious
as
to
why
you
know
south
boston,
chinatown,
downtown,
there's
certain
parts
of
the
city
that
has
way
more
dollars
and
and
and
resources
being
allocated
and
again,
I'm
city
wide.
C
So
my
job
is
to
represent
the
city
as
a
whole,
but
my
role
is
also
to
be
super,
mindful
that
it
needs
to
be
equitable
across
the
city,
so
I
just
would
like
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
we
ended
up
with
these
allocations
on
the
capital
front.
This
is
this
is
something
for
us
to
be
mindful
of
there.
There
are
some
discrepancies
there
and
then
that-
and
this
is
a
question:
what
metrics
will
we
use
to
measure
how
effectively
our
dollars
are
being
spent,
especially
on
equity,
related
budgetary
items?
C
If
we
decide
to
spend
millions
of
dollars
on
a
community
development
project,
in
particular
in
a
particular
neighborhood,
how
are
we
measuring
whether
that
was
a
sound
financial
investment
and
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
will
be
able
to
answer
that?
But
what
I'm
always
going
to
ask?
And
I'm
just
putting
it
out
there
is
what
is
our
return
on
investment
for
every
single
dollar
that
you
all
are
going
to
be
advocating,
for?
C
I
want
to
know
like
a
return
or
on
our
equity
investment,
not
just
the
overall
investment,
but
I
would
like
to
know
how
that
specifically
is
going
to
move
communities
who
have
been
underserved
for
far
too
long.
C
How
is
that
going
to
close
the
racial
and
wealth
and
mental
health
and
wellness
gap,
like
those
are
the
sort
of
things
that
I
really
want
you
all
to
come
prepared
with
during,
as
we
continue
we're
going
to
do
department
by
department
later,
if
we,
when
we
do
more
department
by
the
department,
so
this
is
just
an
overview
of
kind
of
how
I'm
going
to
roll
when
I
come
through
for
these
questions
so
that
you
all
come
prepared
to
to
answer
them
with
that
fashion.
But
could
someone
just
tell
me
right
now?
C
What
are
the
metrics
we're
going
to
be
using
to
give
us
an
idea
of
how
that
investment
that
you're
asking
for
is
going
to
lead
into
outcomes.
G
So
I
in
this
is
touching
on
what
alex
did
in
our
prior
job,
which
is
performance.
Metrics
is
something
key
to
any
any
budget
development
and
it's
like
the
effectiveness
and
the
impact
of
the
investment.
While
there
are
certain
you
know,
items
that
can
be
whether
it
be
grants
or
things
like
that
we
can.
You
can
identify
specifically
the
demographics
but
general,
the
general
state
of
city
services,
it's
performance
metrics,
I
mean
some.
G
Some
are
tried
and
true
sort
of
data
that
departments
use
in
terms
of
public
safety
and
what
what's
you
know?
What
is,
but
then
those
metrics
might
not
work
for
everybody.
You
know
those
are
those
are
sort
of
statistics
that
are,
you
know,
reported
for
to
the
the
federal
government
and
things
like
that,
but
it
might
not
be
you
know
a
feeling
of
safety
and
security
might
be
measured
in
a
different
way.
G
No,
no,
what
I'm
saying
is
performance
metrics
in
a
general
sense
are
our
way
the
ways
how
we
measure
our
return
on
our
investments.
So
what
what
are
we
getting
from
the
resources
that
we're
applying.
C
Yeah
so
the
way
I
see
performance
metrics,
like
I
see,
issues
of
violence
in
our
community
in
response
to
mental
health
and
wellness
and
kind
of
how
have
we
leaned
in
on
that
right?
There
are
still
unsolved
homicides.
You
know
there
are
folks
who
are
still
struggling
with
mental
health
and
wellness
issues.
C
There
are
folks
who
are
having
a
hard
time,
keeping
a
roof
over
their
head.
There
are
folks
who
are
dealing
with
food
insecurity.
There
are
folks
who
can't
even
afford
to
live
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
There
are
folks
who
can't
even
get
a
job,
let
alone
so
there's
a
lot.
C
So
how
are
we
then
going
to
take
the
state
of
the
state
of
the
city
and
and
put
together
some
sort
of
dashboard
or
benchmark
that
you
know
within
the
next
two
years,
the
quality
of
life
or
the
mental
health
and
wellness
or
the
increase
on
capital
for
businesses?
We
will
see
how
the
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
that
we
are
approving
are
going
to
have
an
impact
at
on
the
people
who
live
at
16,
corona
street,
like
how
do
we
get
to
that
level
of
accountability?.
G
Yeah,
you
raise
an
excellent
point
and
that's
like
that's
nirvana,
for
a
budget
person.
You
know
how
do
you
measure
what
results
I
mean.
That's
what
we're
all
in
the
business
for
is
to
to
make
to
budget
dollars
that
results
in
change,
positive
change,
and
I
think
we
all
you
know,
I
think,
we've
all
said
we
have
shared
priorities
exactly
almost
the
same
identical
priorities,
one
of
the.
G
It
was
introduced
as
part
of
the
american
rescue
point
act.
There's
lots
of
that.
You
know
impact
analysis.
You
know
that
those
are
those
are
going
to
be
and
that's
a
multi-year
grant
so
there'll
be
there
are
requirements
to
say.
Are
we
are
we
making
a
change?
Is
it
anything
different
than
it
was
before
you
know?
We
want
it
better
than
it
was
before
we
didn't.
We
don't
we
don't
like
the
way
it
was
before.
G
So
look
that,
but
those
are
those
are
not
often
easy
ways
to
measure
things,
but
we
we
seek
to
do
it.
We
look
for
advice,
you
know,
what's
a
good
point
of
metric
to
measure
and
we
will
require
that
departments
to
do
that.
C
So
under
announcement
this
will
be
done.
Is
that
under
the
new
committee
that
we've
created
here
in
the
council,
which
is
government,
accountability,
transparency
and
accessibility
under
that
false
post
audit?
So
that
is
where
that's.
Why
I'm
trying
to
get
us
to
a
point
of
helping
me
understand
kind
of
what
your
framework
is
right,
because
once
we
get
that
budget
approved
that
post
audit?
What
we're
talking
about
right
now,
that's
where
we're
going
to
host
a
series
of
hearings-
and
this
is
where
we're
going
to
go
line
by
line.
C
How
do
we
measure
success
and
impact,
and
I'm
going
to
want
to
hear
from
people
who
are
living?
All
of
these
realities
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
see.
Has
their
quality
of
life
has
improved
because
we're
being
held
accountable
every
year
when
we
approve
this
budget
and
at
some
point
we
have
to
pause
and
ask
ourselves?
C
Are
we
utilizing
our
funds
in
ways
that
are
giving
us
the
return
that
we've
been
asking
for?
So
those
questions
are
going
to
be
unpacked
in
that
space
and
I
would
love
to
work
with
you
all
and
with
the
administration
to
put
together
the
framework
of
how
we
go
about
holding
ourselves
accountable,
because
it's
not
just
about
holding
the
administration
accountable,
and
I
want
to
be
really
clear
about
that.
C
It's
about
holding
the
city
as
a
whole
accountable-
and
that
includes
us
as
city
councilors,
right
because
to
counselor
fernandez
anderson's
point
earlier-
is
that
there's
always
been
this
and
this
is
really
an
opportunity
for
us
to
all
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
the
city
as
a
whole.
And
so
that
is
the
spirit
in
which
I
want
to
operate
in.
But
I
think
it's
really
important
for
you
all
to
understand
kind
of
like
the
things
I'm
struggling
with,
so
that
we
can
work
collaboratively.
C
You
know,
alongside
the
chair
here,
who's
really
holding
us
accountable
and
making
sure
before
you
get
that
money
that
you're
very
clear
on
how
you're
going
to
use
it.
Because
then,
when
it
transitions
into
the
post
audit,
she
and
I
are
going
to
talk
and
we're
going
to
say
tit
for
tat
where
where's
our
money
at
and
that's
the
level
of
accountability
that
this
moment
requires.
And
I'm
hoping
that,
as
you
all
continue
to
think
about
and
prepping
to
being.
These
hearings
that
we
come
with
that
level
of
framework.
C
L
A
Thank
you
class
over
here
appreciate
that
so
we
we
we
thought
about
this
hearing,
and
we
said
that
you
know
my
my
team
and
I
and
some
counselors.
We
said
what
about
equity.
How
do
we
start
looking
at
the
budget
with
an
equitable
lens,
and
we
thought
that
the
first
hearing
in
introduction
to
our
budget
season
should
be
about
equity,
and
I
think
that
the
questions
that
we
posed
were
predominantly
framed
around
equity.
You
came
today
you
presented
and
chief
edua.
Thank
you
so
much
you
really.
A
You
really
touched
on
those
efforts
about
equity
and
mr
williamson.
You
also
not
touched
on
the
equity
per
se,
but
on
the
budgetary
process
in
terms
of
your
efforts
thus
far
to
engage
community.
A
What
we
have
an
issue
with
the
city's,
and
when
I
say
we
I
mean
amina
scott,
my
budget
director
and
I
well.
We
have
an
issue
when
we
look
at
the
budget
is
that
operational
budget
doesn't
necessarily
determine
or
aggregate
data
in
a
way
that
you
can
actually
understand
whether
it's
equitable
or
not.
A
It
doesn't
split
by
neighborhood
because,
as
the
chief
sorry,
I'm
going
to
say,
alex
I
forgot,
your
last
name
is
is
mentioned
basically
that
operational
budget
is,
you
know
mostly
people
and
there's
the
cap,
there's
the
the
human
capital
or
where
we're
spending
where
their
resources
are
going,
and
I
think
you
said
something
over
60.
A
The
problem
with
that
is.
I
think
that
there
is
a
way
to
actually
aggregate
data
to
my
colleagues
point
to
actually
look
at
where
services
are
going
by
neighborhood.
If
we
looked
at
311
data,
if
we
looked
at
other
services,
if
we
looked
at
procurement,
procurement
is
more
obvious.
Obviously,
and
we
have
data
on
that.
A
But
if
you
looked
at
services,
I
don't
know
if
it's
in
311
or
do
it,
you
would
know
where
services
are
being
right
fulfilled
more
in
which
neighborhoods
and
so
we're
currently
working
with
bu,
to
look
at
that
data
and
to
be
able
to
bring
it
in.
But
this
is
all
the
beginning
process
of
a
beautiful
thing,
hopefully
that
we
actually
look
at
these
numbers
and
some
of
this
you
know
this
whole
process
seemed
you
know.
What's
the
point,
and
what
are
we
doing?
A
Well,
that's
what
we're
doing
we
are
here
to
say
it's
not
making
sense
we're
here
to
get
uncomfortable,
so
the
information
that
I
that
I
sent,
maybe
the
responsibility
that
I'm
gonna
take,
is
that
we
should
give
more
than
a
week
and
a
half
for
folks
to
answer
questions,
but
that
if
they
don't
answer
the
precedence
that
we
have
to
set
is
that
we
have
to
continue
the
process
and
hold
people
accountable.
A
As
my
colleague
mentioned,
it
means
that
we
want
people
each
department
to
answer
those
questions
and
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
the
administration.
We
want
all
the
quasi
agencies,
we
want
all
the
departments
in
the
city
of
boston,
we
want
it
by
department,
we
want
to
understand
and
specifically
demographics.
A
We
want
to
understand
what
roles
they
play.
We
want
to
compare
the
wages
for
all
chiefs.
We
want
to
compare
them
by
demographics.
We
want
to
compare
them
by
wage,
we
want
to
compare
them
by
sex
and
then
we
want
to
go
into
our
procurement.
We
want
to
go
into
capital
spending.
We
want
to
understand
exactly
because,
if
I
put
out
capital-
and
I
compare
them
by
demographics-
and
I
think
I
put
something
up
on
social
media
and
again
it
stirs
up
the
pot-
it's
like,
oh,
but
you
don't
really
understand
she's
new
yeah.
A
A
So
I
think
that
those
comparisons
are
important
to
talk
about,
because
we
want
to
really
look
at
what
are
the
metrics
if
we
know
that
the
need,
if
the
budget
is
coming,
for
example,
the
400
million
almost
400
million
that
came
in
arpa,
if
the,
if
that
is
coming
for
specific
inequity
for
a
specific
difference
disenfranchised
population
due
to
covin,
then
how
are
we
spending
it
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
the
populations
affected
are
actually
getting
it
right?
And
so,
when
we
look
at
capital
budgets
that
well
those
are
promises
over
five
years.
A
Well,
yeah
we
broke
those
down.
We
looked
at,
you
know.
What's
carrying
over
committed
carryover,
we
looked
at
what
is
being
allocated
in
fy22,
and
then
we
looked
at
the
sum
total
and
still
it
doesn't
add
up,
and
so
it's
not
about.
Okay,
if
I
don't
understand,
if
we
don't
understand
the
community
teach
us
x,
I
and
my
job,
I
think,
is
to
facilitate
that
process
so
that
we
can
all
understand
right
so
that
I
can
say
well.
A
000
people
right
more
than
double
of
fenway,
more
than
double
of
roxbury,
so
we
want
to
break
that
down
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
questions
about
equity
most
of
them
was
about
equity
engagement.
Right
we
talked
about
how
are
you
doing
professional
development?
How
are
you
reaching
people?
How
are
we
understanding
this?
How
are
you
breaking
down
the
data?
And
today
our
chief
of
equity
had
to
leave
early.
A
She
had
to
come
late
at
a
half
hour,
but
she
also
had
to
leave
early
and
so
on
our
part,
we're
going
to
do
a
better
job
in
scheduling.
I
thought
we
did
a
good
job,
but
we'll
we'll
we'll
work
at
it.
A
We'll
do
we'll
do
more
and
we'll
work
together
so
that
admin
administration
counselors
can
get
together
and
even
if
the
other
counselors
are
not
here,
I
don't
care
if
no
one
shows
up
as
long
as
we,
the
admin
and
ways
of
means
is
working
on
ensuring
like
breaking
this
down
and
looking
at
the
metrics.
A
So
my
questions
are
too
like
we
know,
there's
no
metrics
measuring
equity.
We
know
we
understand
that
there
is
nothing
that
shows
us
that,
since
racism
was
declared
a
public
health
crisis,
we
have
not
implemented
any
study
or
any
metrics
or
a
proper
dashboard,
not
the
one
that
exists.
That
actually
shows
you
the
growth,
if
we're
going,
if
we're
actually
building
an
equity
for
actually
investing
in
the
the
marginalized
communities,
if
we're.
Actually,
we
don't
have
that,
and
I
want
to
understand
the
growth
I
want
to
understand.
How
do
we
monitor
this
stuff?
A
How
do
we
know
that
we
got
better
at
it?
Procurement
study
came
out.
How
do
we
know
we
got
better
at
it,
employment?
We
know
that
it's
majority
white,
we
know
we.
I
looked
at
the
numbers.
We
also
know
that
white
staffs
get
more
gets
more
money.
We
also
know
that
men
get
paid
higher,
we
know
the
stuff,
but
we
want
to
look
at
what
can
we
implement?
A
We
want
to
talk
to
you
and
look
at
what
can
we
implement
to
ensure
that
there's
fairness
that
there's
equity
and
I
think
that's
the
next
conversation-
and
I
would
like
to
move
to
a
working
session
so
that
we
can
do
this
together
and
and
look
at
these
ideas
together
and
say:
boston
is
a
city
that
is
exemplary
of
what
it
looks
like
to
really
do
the
work
to
truly
be
equitable.
They
said
public
health.
Racism
is
a
public
health
crisis,
they
mean
it.
A
They
said
they
are
working
for
equity,
they
mean
it
all
those
politicians
elected
they
talk
all
that
stuff
about
equity,
they
mean
it
even
if
they
don't
show
up
fine,
they
mean
it,
and
so
we
should
talk
during
a
working
session
and
we
should
look
at
the
numbers
and
what
I'm
asking
for
all
of
those
departments
again
is
that
they
answer
those
questions,
yes
or
no,
and
if
it's
a
no,
how
they
plan
to
do
it
better.
We
will
reframe
the
question
so
that
it's
easier
to
to
to
just
give
us
the
answers.
A
C
Me
here
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you
chair.
I,
it
would
be
helpful
for
for
us,
or
at
least
for
me,
as
you
all
are
thinking
about
preparing
for
the
hearings
that
we're
going
to
be
hosting
in
the
working
sessions
to
get
a
list
of
things
that
I
know
we
ask
a
lot
of
questions
right.
C
It
would
be
helpful
if
you
can
ask
if
you
could.
Let
us
know
what
you
need
from
us
to
prepare
you
better
right,
like
not
just
a
list
of
questions
but
like,
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
maybe
that's
been
done
in
the
past-
and
I
was
not
invited
to
that
party.
But
if
there
are
things
where
there's
an
opportunity
for
for
us
to
know
what
you
need
to
be
set
up
for
success
aside
from
just
the
questions
right
like
I
want
to
manage
my
expectations.
C
If
there
are
things
that
I'm
asking
for
that,
you
absolutely
have
no
idea
where
to
find
it
like
it's
better
to
know
that
right,
so
that
we
can
help,
at
least
when
I
come
into
these
hearings.
So
we
can
set
you
up
for
success
right
because
everybody's
going
to
be
looking
to
us
to
hold
you
all
to
the
feet
to
the
fire,
but
it's
important
for
igr
or
somebody
to
give
us
some
sense
of
direction
of
as
we
as
we
come
into
these
spaces.
C
What
is
what
do
you
have
access
to
and
what
you
don't
because
to
counselor
fernandez
anderson's
point
like
we
spent.
We
came
here,
you
know,
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
a
preparation
issue
or
what
the
case
is.
But
there
is
an
expectation
that,
when
you
guys
are
going
to
be
hearing
and
spending
time
with
us,
whether
it
be
working
sessions
or
whatever
that
there's
a
sense
of
like
even
nate,
I
don't
need
to
keep
calling
nate
out.
But
you
know
that's
what
I'm
going
to
do.
Nay,
I'm
always
going
to
call
you
out.
C
You
know
he
wasn't
prepared
for
for
some
of
the
questions
that
counselor
fernandez
anderson
had
put
forth,
and
so
I
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
either
manage
our
expectations
or
for
us
to
rise
to
the
occasion
right,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
know
what
is
possible
and
what
is
going
to
be
difficult
so
that
we
can
support
you
all
too.
A
And
just
to
be
fair,
thank
you.
So
much
councilman
here,
just
to
be
fair,
chief
solis
cervera
is
new
right.
So
it's
it's
not
for
us
to
sit
here
and
be
like.
Oh,
she
wasn't
prepared.
She
left
early
blah
blah.
I
don't
like
that.
She
left
early,
but
it's
enough
for
us
to
do
that.
I
think
the
fair
thing
is
she's,
probably
getting
to
know
her
team,
probably
looking
at
strategizing
and
understanding.
A
You
know
this
whole
thing,
I'm
doing
the
same
thing
right
so
we're
all
like
just
trying
to
do
our
job
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
and
we
just
started
so
I
think
just
just
for
the
record
extending
that
and
saying
she's
going
to
need
way
more
time.
It's
a
huge
undertaking.
A
Equity
is
super
important
and
then
for
her
to
have
all
of
these
departments
under
her
and
same
for
chief
ito.
I
think
you
know
you
you
did
you
did
the
best.
You
did
amazing.
Actually,
today,
coming
in
and
delivering,
but
again
it's
it's
a
huge
undertaking.
You
have
a
lot
of
under
you
and
then,
as
I
know,
this
budget,
the
budget
office
is
experiencing
some
changes
and
right
some
moving
around
and
stuff,
so
we
are
taking
all
of
that
into
consideration
and
believe
it
or
not.
A
I
can't
predict
the
future,
but
I
definitely
expected
this
hearing
to
go
this
way,
and
this
is
wonderful
because
what
an
opportunity
we
now
understand
that
we're
not
prepared
to
answer
these
questions.
We
don't
actually
have
the
answers
to
these
questions,
and
so,
if
we
go
on
record
and
saying
we
don't
have
a
metrics,
the
dashboard
doesn't
actually
measure
progress.
A
We
don't
have
a
way
to
monitoring
equity
and
we
actually
don't
know
how
to
implement
any
of
this
yet,
and
we
need
to
have
those
conversations
and
the
whole
thing
declaring
racism
as
a
public
health
crisis
that
has
been
no
true,
intentional
follow-through.
There
has
been
no
true,
intentional
guidelines
as
to
how
we're
going
to
address
it.
A
That's
a
wonderful
thing:
what
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
this
together.
So
I
look
forward
to
that
and
again
I'm
going
to
be
scheduling
in
within
within
two
weeks,
hopefully
closer
to
the
two-week
period
I'm
going
to
reframe
specific
to
each
chief
and
each
department
so
that
it's
more
easier
to
break
down.
I
want
you
guys
to
submit
what's
helpful,
as
miss
council
mejia
mentioned,
so
that
we
can
prepare
for
you
as
well.
A
We
will
do
a
presentation
for
you,
but
I
need
that
information
ahead
of
time
do
not
want
a
presentation
from
you.
I
love
hearing
your
voice,
mr
cutter
and
all
of
you,
but
we
can't
do
it.
We
have
to
change
how
we
do
this
because
it's
just
way
too
much
talking
and
no
not
enough
answers,
and
I
do
the
same.
So
let
me
know
how
we
can
be
more
productive.
That's
what
I
want
for
the
city
of
boston
for
all
of
us.
A
If
there
are
any
comments
remaining
the
panel,
if
you're,
if
you'd
like
to
make
any
comments,
please
sure.
I
Well,
I
I
just
just
to
stand
in
for
my
colleague
a
little
bit.
I
know
that
chief
solo
server
was
at
the
breakfast
for
boston,
fair
housing.
This
is
for
housing
month
and
I
just
wanted
to
have
on
the
record
that
that's
where
she
was
coming
from,
I'm
not
sure
where
I
know
anyway.
I
just
wanted
to
make.
I
You
know
put
that
on
the
record
that
I
know
that's
where
she
was
coming
from
and
and
all
that,
but
I
will
say
I
appreciate
your
comments
earlier
counselor
mejia,
because
the
word
accountability
for
some
reason
has
this
negative
error
to
it.
And
accountability
is
a
good
thing,
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
know
all
these
hearings
that
we've
had
help
us
get
better,
especially
those
of
us
who
are
89
days
into
our
roles.
I
These
questions-
and
we
talked
about
this
last
week
at
the
equity
and
contracting
hearing
like
it,
sets
a
baseline
right.
So
now
we
know
that
this
time
next
year,
when
we're
back
like
these
questions,
inform
that
impact
that
you're
talking
about
right,
the
metrics
that
we
put
together
so
that
it's
a
collective
you
know
we're
achieving
our
collective
vision
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
also
thank
you
for
this
conversation
and
look
forward
to
the
working
session.
H
Excellent,
I
also
just
wanted
to
add
sort
of
you
know.
Yes,
of
course,
there
are
these
technocratic
ways
that
we
measure
success
in
specific
projects,
and
we
say
this
is
an
investment,
and
here
are
the
five
ways
we're
going
to
look
at
it,
but
I
think
to
to
both
of
your
points,
sort
of
tying
those
individual
metrics
into
the
overall
goals
that
we
have,
that
we
want
to
achieve
and
having
those
conversations
about
how
like
the
overall
vision,
everyone
has
for
the
city
translates
to
the
things
we're
doing
translates
to
the
money
we're
spending.
H
I
think
there's
definitely
progress
that
we
could
make
and
putting
those
putting
putting
that
language
into
plain
terms
that
everybody
can
understand.
It's
one
thing
to
have
and
that
our
major
buzzit
team
puts
together
an
incredibly
long
budget
book
with
tons
of
details,
but
being
able
to
translate
that
to
something
that
that
means
a
ton
to
to
our
constituency
is
incredibly
important,
so
excited
to
work
with
all
of
you
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
A
Thank
you
for
our
panelists
that
are
still
with
us.
I
do
apologize
that
we
did
not
have
enough
time
to
actually
go
through.
A
Whatever
presentation
you
have,
I
would
love
to
get
it
by
email
if
you
can
submit
it
if
you've
already
submitted
we'll
be
following
up
with
clarifying
questions,
I
would
like
to
have
those
things
within
less
than
within
a
week
so
that
I
can
have
time
to
prepare
for
our
next
session
or
next
working
session
within
a
couple
of
weeks
again,
please
forgive
me
for
just
going
back
and
forth
and
figuring
trying
to
prioritize
who
we
needed
to
get
to,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
the
session
is
now
closed.