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Description
Dockets #0480- 0486 - Fiscal Year 2023 Budget: Public Facilities Department/ Capital budget
Held on April 25, 2022
A
Again,
jim
nice
to
see
everyone
for
the
record,
my
name
is
tanya
fernandez
anderson,
the
district,
seven
city
councilor.
I
am
the
chair
of
boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
this
hearing
is
being
recorded.
A
The
council's
budget
review
process
will
encompass
a
series
of
public
hearings
beginning
in
june
and
running
through
sorry,
beginning
in
april
running
through
june.
We
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
encourage
to
engage
in
this
process
by
giving
testimony
for
the
record.
You
can
do
this
in
several
ways
attend
one
of
the
hearings
and
give
public
testimony.
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
each
departmental
hearing
and
also
at
the
two
hearings
dedicated
for
public
testimony.
The
full
hearing
schedule
is
on
our
website
at
boston.gov
for
slash
council
dash
budget.
A
Tomorrow,
sorry
april
26
at
6,
pm
and
june,
2nd
at
6
pm
as
well.
You
can
give
testimony
in
person
here
in
the
chamber
or
virtual
via
zoom
for
in-person
testimony.
Please
come
to
the
chamber
and
sign
up
on
the
sheet
near
the
entrance
for
virtual
testimony.
You
can
sign
up
using
your
online
form
on
our
council
budget
review
website
or
by
emailing
the
committee
at
ccc.wm
boston.gov,
when
you
are
called
to
testify.
Please
state
your
name,
affiliation
or
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
just
two
to
three
minutes.
A
A
A
All
right,
docket
number
043
orders
for
capital
fund
transfer
appropriation
stock
is
zero.
Four,
eight
four,
two
zero
four
eight
six
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements.
Our
focus
area
for
the
budget
here
for
this
budget
hearing
will
be
capital,
budget
overview,
public
and
public
facility
department.
A
Our
panelists
for
today's
hearing
are
jim
williamson
director
of
office
of
budget
management
obm
jack
hanlon.
Is
that
correct?
Okay?
Thank
you,
deputy
director,
capital
of
obm,
kerry,
griffin,
deputy
sorry,
gary
griffin,
director
of
pfd
and
ellen
mcdonnell
assistant
director
for
administration
and
finance
pfd.
A
President
ed
flynn,
counselor
kenzie
bach
counselor
liz
braden,
counselor,
woodsy,
louisian,
counselor,
aaron
murphy.
Thank
you
for
being
here
today,
we'd
like
to
just
give
you
a
brief
of
what
the
agenda
looks
like
you.
Will
each
have
five
minutes
to
present
your
presentation
for
today?
Hopefully
a
total
of
20
minutes.
A
Then
we'll
go
to
first
rounds
for
council
questions
each
having
five
minutes
then
we'll
go
to
public
testimony.
They
will
be
given
two
minutes
or
limit
of
three
then
a
second
round
and
in
the
same
order
and
then
final
comments
from
the
council.
A
Now
I
like
to
I
mean
I
I
I
like
to
keep
things.
You
know
really
simple,
so
I'm
not
gonna
give
any
like
formal,
formal,
introduction
or
any
type
of
opening
statement,
but
I
think
that
we
know
when
we
think
about
capital,
as
I've
said
earlier,
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
here,
it's
really
about
looking
at
what
makes
sense
in
terms
of
equity
and.
A
There
will
be
hard
questions
and
there
will
be
hard
statements
and
I
think
that
it's
not
it's
not
a
personal
statement
of
people's
character
or
integrity,
rather
that
everyone
here
has
a
job
and
if
we're
addressing
issues
that
we
feel
need
improvement,
that
we
are
collectively
looking
at
it
and
in
agreement
that
it
should
be
more
equitable.
So
I
think
a
lot
of
these,
especially
on
capital.
A
lot
of
these
questions
are
going
to
be
pretty
tough.
A
B
B
It
may
be
physically
loaded
in
fenway,
actually
abiding
fenway
park,
but
it
serves
500
students
from
across
the
city,
90
of
the
students
are
of
color
and
more
than
half
are
economically
disadvantaged,
a
true
city-wide
or
societal
benefit.
So,
oh
well,
the
slides
aren't
on
actually
so
sorry
about
that.
B
A
Excuse
me
a
moment:
is
it
cold
in
here
or
is
it
just
me?
A
D
A
B
Great
it's
on
the
screen
now
so
that,
generally,
the
capital
plan
is
summarized
as
falls.
The
city
maintains
a
large
inventory
of
capital
assets,
hundreds
of
miles
of
road,
dozens
of
bridges
parks
in
every
neighborhood
in
over
300
municipal
buildings,
including
schools,
libraries
and
city
hall.
B
The
city
uses
a
combination
of
general
obligation,
bonds,
federal
grants
typically
for
transportation
projects.
State
grants
like
the
msba
program
for
schools
and
the
city's
five-year
capital
plan
is
broke
into
two
different
project
types.
There
are
projects
whether
they
have
like
a
city-wide
impact
or
are
more
regional
in
impact,
but
there
are
projects
like
schools,
libraries
parks,
open
space,
bridges
and
then
there's
programs
like
tree
planting
and
protected
bike
lanes
and
road
resurfacing
and
sidewalk
replacement
fire
equipment.
City
technology
is
sort
of
our
programmatic
in
nature.
B
We
can
so
later
in
the
presentation
you'll
hear
from
the
public
facilities
department,
the
largest
implementer
of
the
capital
plan,
you'll
you'll,
be
meeting
with
the
second
largest
implementer
of
the
streets
cabinet
on
may
9th
and
the
third
largest
implementer
of
the
capital
plan.
When
you
meet
with
the
open
space
cabinet
on
the
hearing
on
the
26th.
B
With
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
jack
handler
to
walk
us
through
the
sources
of
revenue
that
support
the
plan
where
the
front
the
funding
is
spent
and
who
is
managing
the
work
in
the
city.
F
E
Director
of
capital
planning
and
obm
on
the
next
few
slides
we're
going
to
look
at
a
summary
of
the
of
the
23
plan
and
first
up
is
a
look
at
how
we
fund
the
program.
E
78
of
the
plan
is
funded
directly
by
the
city
of
this
total
2.6
billion
dollars
comes
from
authorizations
that
permit
the
city
to
issue
bonds
that
are
then
repaid
as
debt
service
through
the
city's
operating
budget.
Just
under
six
percent
of
the
plan
is
funded
by
appropriations
from
the
city's
parking
meter
and
surplus
property
funds.
E
Twenty
percent
of
the
plan
is
funded
by
state
and
federal
grants,
and
remaining
two
percent
is
a
mix
of
private
grants.
E
E
E
The
capital
plan
is
a
dynamic
document.
Projects
enter
the
plan
and
they
age
out
when
they
are
completed.
We
shared
with
you
information
about
where
the
projects
are
my
neighborhood
and
city
council.
District
projects
are
distributed
throughout
the
city.
Sometimes
they
appear
uneven
in
their
distribution.
E
For
instance,
the
construction
of
a
new
school
will
substantially
increase
investment
in
a
particular
neighborhood
for
a
period
of
time.
The
perceived
investment
level
appears
to
go
in
the
other
direction
when
a
large
project
exit
exits.
The
plan
in
the
reports
that
we
shared
with
you
there
are
also
sections
that
list
projects
that
span
multiple
neighborhoods
and
council
districts,
and
also
programs
that
have
a
city-wide
impact.
I
encourage
you
to
review
those
sections
as
well
and
to
discover
additional
projects
that
may
impact
particular
neighborhoods
of
concern.
E
E
This
slide
here
shows
project
budgets
allocated
by
the
departments
responsible
for
managing
them.
Pfd
manages
projects
equal
to
41
percent
of
the
total
plan
and
we'll
be
hearing
from
kerry
in
a
few
moments
about
those
projects.
The
streets
cabinet
manages
projects
totaling.
A
third
of
the
plan
and
parks
department
managed
projects
coming
at
nearly
10
over
the
next
several
weeks.
These
departments
will
be
coming
in
to
testify
about
their
budgets
and
speak
in
greater
detail
about
the
projects
and
next
slide
piece.
E
Okay,
okay
th!
This
slide
here
shows
project
budgets.
Let
me
see
I'm
sorry
so
with
this
last
slide,
I
just
want
to
highlight
proposed
staffing
investments
that
will
help
move
projects
through
the
capital
pipeline
as
quickly
and
as
efficiently
as
possible.
To
that
end,
the
fy
23
operating
budget
proposes
10
new
positions
in
pfd,
as
well
as
additional
positions
in
the
streets
cabinet
and
in
the
parks
department
that
will
support
implementation
of
capital
projects
and
also
the
maintenance
of
recent
and
ongoing
capital
improvements.
G
Thank
you,
jim
and
jack
good
afternoon
councillors,
and
thank
you
for
your
advocacy
and
for
your
constituents
and
neighborhoods
as
we
developed
the
fy
23
budget.
Thank
you
to
mayor
wu
and
our
team
for
their
support
and
commitment
to
the
budget
process
to
ensure
a
robust,
diverse
and
resilient
budget.
G
Thank
you
to
the
residents
of
boston
for
your
engagement
in
the
budget
process.
A
special
thanks
to
the
cfo's
office
and
office
of
budget
management.
Pfd
works
throughout
the
year
with
our
financial
partners
to
ensure
both
fiscal
responsibility
and
sustainability.
The
city's
triple
bond
rating
is
a
testament
to
their
work
and
diligence.
G
G
Our
team
of
professionals
works
tirelessly
now
and
throughout
the
pandemic,
to
keep
our
projects
moving
forward,
delivering
excellent
buildings
to
our
client,
end
user
and
the
residents
of
the
city
next
slide.
Please,
who
we
are
so
as
jack
mentioned,
pfd
manages
41
percent
of
the
capital
plan,
which
includes
all
building
construction
and
renovations.
G
Our
portfolio
ranges
from
a
single
boiler
project
to
an
out
of
the
ground,
six
story:
school
building.
We
oversee
the
design
and
construction
of
all
city
buildings
and
maintain
the
highest
standards
of
transparency
and
accountability
next
side,
please,
we
have
a
current
caseload
of
100
projects,
valued
at
almost
1.5
billion
dollars.
We
are
governed
by
mass
general
law,
chapter
149
and
149;
a
for
construction
and
chapter
7c
for
design
contracts.
G
This
next
slide
shows
the
project
life
cycle
of
a
149
and
149a
construction
project.
Both
delivery
methods
require
strict
adherence
to
the
public
procurement
laws
regulating
our
work.
All
of
our
projects
start
with
the
study
to
understand
our
clients
needs,
as
well
as
establishing
an
estimate
throughout
the
conceptual
study
and
design
phase
of
a
project.
We
engage
in
a
vigorous
community
process
next
slide.
Please
pft
supports
the
city's
goals
of
increasing
diversity
among
city
contracts.
G
G
Pfd
is
in
partnership
with
the
environmental
and
office
of
budget
management
and
executes
the
renew
boston
trust
program
which
implements
alternately
financed
energy,
efficient
measures.
We
are
about
to
start
phase
three
of
this
program,
which
will
focus
on
schools
and
city
hall
lighting.
The
previous
phases,
one
and
two
have
yielded
yielded
significant
savings
for
phase
one,
the
actual
savings
there
was
a
total
cost
of
11
million,
actual
savings,
672
000
annually
phase
two
was
19
million
cost
and
savings
projected
savings
of
430
000
phase.
Three.
D
C
E-Builder
has
transformed
the
way
that
we
do
business
over
the
last
two
years.
We
have
gone
from
a
paper-based
approval
and
management
system
to
an
entirely
electronic
one.
This
year
we
were
excited
to
roll
out
our
public
facilities,
commission
approvals,
advertisement
templates,
pre-qualifications
project,
closeout,
additional
services,
approvals,
furniture,
fixture
and
equipment
and
other
processes
this
coming
year.
We're
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
create
new
processes,
enhance
existing
ones
and,
in
particular,
to
take
on
the
management
of
the
e-builder
contract
for
the
city.
G
Thank
you.
Alan
with
our
partners
at
bps
pfd
has
managed
the
massachusetts
school
building
authorities
grant
program
for
the
city
of
boston.
This
is
a
non-entitlement
competitive
program
for
school
building,
construction
and
renovation
projects.
The
core
program
covers
extensive
repairs,
renovations
additions
and
new
school
construction.
G
G
G
The
engagement
center
opened
in
january
20
2022
to
assist
the
public
health
commission,
offering
our
most
vulnerable
population
services
and
resources.
The
east
boston
police
station
will
be
opening
in
june.
The
city.
In
addition
to
these,
the
city
has
made
a
significant
investment
in
library.
Projects
include,
including
recently
opened
dorchester
and
roslindale
branches,
along
with
multiple,
along
with
multiple
library,
studies
for
fields,
corner
eggleston
square
uplands,
corner
carbon
square,
the
west
end
in
chinatown
excited.
G
We
have
a
wide
range
of
ongoing
projects
from
city
hall,
plaza
the
new
carter
school,
the
matahun
community
center
and
the
east
boston
senior
center.
We
are
looking
forward
to
seeing
these
projects
to
completion
over
the
next
few
months
and
years,
and
we
are
excited
to
see
the
impact
that
these
projects
will
have
in
the
communities
that
they
serve.
G
A
I
think
I
was
enjoying
your
voice
and
expected
more
all
right.
I
will
turn
to
my
colleagues
for
questions
and
I'll
leave.
My
last
counselor
lynn.
H
H
H
H
You
know
the
the
job
that
these
city
workers
do,
whether,
whether
it's
police
or
fire,
but
the
impact
it
has
on
the
environment,
the
impact
it
has
on
their
on
their
health,
their
public
health.
And
are
you
working
now
to
design
buildings
to
make
them
more
healthier
for
city
employees,
for
the
public
to
go
into.
G
Thank
you
counselor
for
that
question.
So,
yes,
prior
to
starting
the
construction
on
that
project
and
engine
17
is
actually
in
procurement
right
now,
which
will
have
the
same
mythology
in
terms
of
how
we
built
it,
but
it
yes.
That
is
probably
our
number
one
concern
when
we
started
prior
to
starting
the
construction
of
that
or
even
the
design
of
that
we
went
through
a
year-long
study
where
we
met
weekly
with
the
fire
department,
senior
leadership
and
we
went
through.
G
We
went
and
we
partnered
with
area
hospitals
to
understand
the
risks
and
the
of
the
cancer
rates.
So
the
focus
of
that
entire
study
really
was
the
health
and
wellness
and
the
safety
of
our
firefighters,
and
it's
the
zoning
of
that.
The
air
systems
are
compatibilized,
so
they
they
treat.
It's
almost
like
a
hospital
type
of
or
a
pharmaceutical
type
of
air
ventilation
system,
to
separate
the
zoning
and
to
protect
the
fire
fighters
for
clean
air.
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
and
say
thank
you
to
our
city
workers
that
are
focused
on
that,
because
that's
a
critical
part
of
construction
design
and
making
sure
residents
work
and
live
in
a
healthy
environment.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
your
team.
Madam
chair.
I
don't
have
anything
further.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
dedicated
and
professional
city
employees
that
are
here.
F
F
Here
first
question:
I
was
thrilled
to
see
the
you
know:
significant
staffing
inputs
for
project
management,
because
my
experience
just
being
here
two
and
a
half
years
is
that
I
used
to
think
that
the
trick
was
getting
something
listed
in
the
capital
budget
and
now
I
understand
that
it's
actually
getting
it
executed
on
and
so,
for
example,
a
small
project,
but
one
that
is
that's
dear
to
us
and
on
at
this
point
kind
of
stressful
is,
you
know,
there's
a
little
tool
shed
in
the
boston
public
garden.
F
Folks
have
seen
it
it's
painted
green,
it's
the
one
maintenance
facility
in
the
park,
and
it's
been
in
discussion
for
a
long
long
time.
It
was
a
big
deal.
Everyone
was
very
excited
when
finally
getting
fixes
to
it
into
design,
went
into
the
capital
budget
last
year,
because
it's
it's
literally
falling
apart
and
we've
got
their
rats
and
it's
decomposing
and
it's
also
a
place
that
people
sometimes
seek
shelter
and
we've
had
several
unsafe
situations
with
that,
and
so
you
know
I
was
excited.
F
Last
year,
that
was
in
the
capital
budget,
but
then
it
nothing
happened
on
it
and
it's
just
we've
just
rolled
forward
the
100
200
schedule,
that's
in
the
capital
budget,
so
I
guess
I'm
curious
about
that
specifically
and
what
the
prospects
are
for
actually
getting
a
project
manager
assigned
and
that
executed
on,
and
then
in
general,
I
would
just
say
with
these
10
positions,
obviously
they're
only
good
if
we
fill
them
and
it's
a
really
competitive,
labor
market
right
now.
F
So
can
you
guys
talk
about
sort
of
what
steps
you're
taking
proactively,
what
you've
done
with
omb
to
actually
make
sure
that
these
are
like
competitive
project
management
positions?
How
are
we
going
to
try
to
get
those
people
in
before
more
than
half
the
year
has
spent?
Just
if
you
can
talk
to
me
about
the
project
manager,
challenges
and
plans
in
general,
and
then
I
have
this
very
specific
question
as
well.
G
Okay
sure,
thank
you,
council
for
your
question.
So
it
is,
you
know
we
do
have
a
capacity
issue
in
the
department,
but
cfo
obm
recognized
that-
and
you
know
we
were
talking
throughout
the
year
about
that
in
terms
of
we
are
finding
it
difficult
to
hire
for
some
senior
level
positions
and
project
managers.
There's
three
there's
three
rankings
for
project
managers,
project
manager,
one
project
manager,
two
and
project,
a
senior
project
manager
and
the
complexity
of
those
project.
Project
positions
is
a
range
in
the
quantity
of
work.
G
We're
hoping
and
we've
actually
we've
been
given
authority
to
already
post
those
positions,
their
union
positions
and
we've,
given
we've
been
authorized
to
post
those
now
so
that
we
can
hit
the
ground
running
july
1
with
some
of
the
new
work.
G
Yeah
we've
worked
with
ohr
to
do.
We
recently
did
a
job
fair.
We
did
we're
working
with
them
to
post
them
better,
so
coverage
on
social
media.
We
post
them
at
colleges.
We
are
posting
them
on
trade
magazines.
So
we've
worked
we're
working
very
closely
with
hr
to
get
these
more
highlighted,
but.
F
But
I
guess
my
question
would
be
you
know:
in
a
competitive
labor
market,
there
might
be
an
argument
for
nix
the
project
manager,
one
advertise
more
project
managers
to
advertise.
Like
basically,
you
know
advertise
two
senior
project
managers
just
because
of
obviously
we've
got
grades
or
setting
the
inc,
the
salary-
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
there.
G
Is
well,
we
did
a
myself
and
ellen.
Did
a
ser
did
a
deep
dive
into
this
and
looked
at
every
project
and
gave
it
a
complexity
score,
because
we
wanted
to
understand
what
what
we,
what
we
were
lacking
in
capacity
in
the
type
of
project.
So
a
boiler
project
is
typically
something
you
know
a
pm1
would
do.
G
Msba
projects
are
a
little
more
difficult,
whether
they're
in
erp
or
core,
because
there's
a
lot
of
process
involved
with
msba
in
the
grant
program
and
that
could
go
from
a
p.
Any
any
level
of
project
manager,
something
like
city
hall,
prop
plaza,
would
be
a
senior
project
level
manager
got
it
and
can.
G
Sure
the
two
said:
yes,
that's
in
the
capital
plan,
that's
actually
in
the
plan
for
not
a
study
but
a
design
renovate.
So
we
will
work
with
parks
and
landmarks
to
develop
the
actual
scope
and.
F
Just
telegraphing
it's
a
priority
for
me
for
someone
to
get
assigned
to
the
project
because
it
feels
like
we've
made
no
forward
motion
in
the
last
12
months
on
it,
which
I
just
didn't
sort
of
realize
at
the
time
was
something
that
could
happen
so
you're
getting
my
slightly
slightly
more
sophomore
counselor
sophistication
here
saying.
I
would
really
like
that
and
then
just
I'll
ask
a
question,
but
I
can
come
back
in
my
second
round
on
the
west
end
branch
library,
I'd
love
to
talk
a
little
bit.
I
mean
you
know
really.
I
F
We
did
obviously
the
programming
study
for
the
library
last
year
really
excited
about
the
prospect
of
putting
housing.
Above
that
I
know
it's
like
a
sort
of
first
time
thing,
but
would
love
to
better
understand
kind
of
how
we
see
the
process
for
that
unfolding
over
the
coming
year.
I
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
afternoon.
I
follow
on
on
my
colleagues
questions
my
concerns.
I
have
a
list
of
capital
projects
in
district
nine,
nice
spreadsheet
that
goes
back
to
2014,
and
you
know
you
mentioned
that
projects
enter
a
plan
and
then
you
go
through
the
process
of
study,
design
and
construction
and
they,
when
they
age
out
when
the
construction
is
completed,
do
we
have
any
you
know,
guide
posts
that
are
our
benchmarks,
that
a
project
looks
like
it's
going
off
track
like?
I
Is
there
any
remedial
correction
that
can
be
taken?
I'm
just
thinking
like
mckinney
playground.
It
was
first
a
new
project
in
2016
and
it
is
still
2016..
I
think
this
is
the
starting
of
seven
seven
years
the
brighton
high
school
locker
rooms,
which
I
was
very
excited
to
hear
about
when
I
was
newly
elected
in
2020,
there's
still
no
action,
I'm
not
sure
where
that's
at
in
design,
it's
been
in
design
for
three
years
or
three.
This
is
the
third
financial
year
that
it's
in
design
and
then
ringer
park.
I
It's
just
these
long
periods
of
time
that
we
have
projects
that
are
in
the
capital
plan
for
district
nine
and
nothing
seems
to
be
happening,
and
you
know
our
constituents
are
very
excited
when
they
see
a
project
coming
on
as
a
new
project.
But
then,
if
nothing
happens,
they
just
just
wonder
what
what's
the
problem-
and
I
do
appreciate
the
issues
with
project
managers
and
and
that,
but
even
some
of
the
smaller
projects
it
just
seems
like.
Why
does
it
take
so
long
to
get
to
get
to
get
it
done?.
G
Okay,
so
I've
I
can
start
brighton,
locker
room
is
actually
out
to
bid
it's
we're,
awarding.
We
should
be
awarding
the
contractor
that
project,
hopefully
this
month,
but
that
is
out
to
we
started
that
the
design
of
that
probably
less
than
a
year
ago,
when
we
just
put
it
out
to
bid
the
other
two
projects,
I'm
not
familiar
with
mckinney.
G
G
I
I
The
jackson
man
community
center
is
the
only
the
only
one
we
have
in
austin
brightness,
the
only
bcyf
community
center
in
a
neighborhood
with
75
000
people,
and
we
need
to
have
an
urgent
approach
to
to
making
a
plan
so
that
we
are.
We
have
boots
on
the
ground
and
have
a
plan
in
in
advanced
stages
by
july,
of
2023.
I
Because
we
can't
afford
to
not
have
a
community
center,
it
serves
five
precincts
as
a
voting
place.
It
has
adult
education
after
school
programs.
It
has
a
cool
fema
emergency
center
for
our
neighborhood.
It's
a
cooling
center
eating
center.
It
is
a
very
critical
piece
of
our
infrastructure
and
we
really
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
aggressively
approach
a
plan
to
rebuild
not
only
the
the
the
community
center
but
and
also
the
schools
that
are
attached
to
it.
I
But
the
schools
are
a
whole
different
issue,
but
the
community
center
is
a
really
critical
piece
that
we
need
to
really
keep
keep
on
the
front
burner,
because
it's
the
only
one
we
have
all
the
neighborhoods
have
four
community
centers.
We
have
one,
and
I
really
feel
that
I'm
just
putting
down
a
marker
and
said
I'll,
be
watching
this
very
very
closely.
I
Have
you
any?
It
says
it's
in
study
right
now
that
there's
been
a
hundred
to
be
scheduled
in
2022.
2022
is
almost
finished.
That's
it's.
G
Actually,
a
sign
to
counselor
that
that
project
is
a
study
underway.
It's
actually
combined
with
two
other
areas:
dorchester
and
charlestown,
they're
they're
we're
doing
the
community
processes
independent,
but
we
are
doing
in
in-depth
study
of
that.
G
Not
only
are
we
doing
it
on
the
community
center
itself
for
the
day
for
those
neighborhoods,
but
we're
also
doing
a
sighting
study
which
will
based
on
the
square
footage
of
what
an
ideal
community
center
for
and
community
input
that
will
determine
what
we
can
actually
fit
on
the
existing
state
and
whether
that
is
going
to
be
a
three
building
solution
for
the
you
know,
the
current
school,
the
horace
mann
and
community
center,
or
whether
that
is
going
to
be
a
two
building
solution
with
a
community
center
and
a
k-6.
G
We
have
not
started,
we
started
the
community
engagement
process
for
dorchester
and
charlestown
the
austin
brighton
one
got
added
later
in
the
in
the
year
and
we
will
be
working
on
that
within
over
the
next.
I
would
say
month
or
two.
We
would
be
starting.
The
community
process
for
austin,
brighton,
yeah.
I
J
And
so
yeah
that
was
just
a
question
that
I
should
have
asked
earlier.
The
second
question
I
have
is
regarding
the
process
of
getting
projects
onto
these,
and
you
may
have
reviewed
this.
But
what
what
does
it
take
to
get
and
like
our
input
right
here
at
the
stage
is
limited,
but
I'm
wondering
what
does
it
take
to
get
projects
onto
this
list?
J
I
asked
because,
as
I
stated
earlier,
when
we're
talking
about
equity
and
I'd
love
to
hear
the
equity
vision
behind
the
capital
plan
is
really
about
corrective
action
that
we
have
to
take
for
the
policy
rounds
that
we've
committed
for
folks
in
neighborhoods
that
have
been
historically
excluded
from
the
decision-making
table
like
when
it
comes
together
to
putting
together
capital
plans,
and
I
look
at
some
neighborhoods
and
I
see
you
know
there
are
some
neighborhoods
that
have
a
lot
of
things
in
the
burner
and
then
there
are
some
that
have
very
few,
and
so
I'm
wondering
like
how
does
that
decision?
J
Making
process
happen?
And
what
is
the
equity
lens
then,
on
this
capital
plan?
If
we
continue
to
see
that
disproportionate
attention-
and
then
I
just
want
to
uplift
the
questions
that
my
district
counselors
have,
I
support
the
urgency
of
the
moment
of
getting
that
shad
of
the
work
that
we
have
to
do
in
austin,
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
we
get
more
project
managers
so
that
yeah
and
then
I'll
stop
there.
And
then
I
have
another
question
so.
E
So
the
parks
department
will
identify
a
set
of
park,
improvements
or
playground
improvements,
or
something
like
that.
Property
management
will
identify
a
number
of
municipal
buildings,
same
thing
with
all
our
other
departments,
library,
department
and
everyone
else.
E
We.
What
we
will
then
do
is
determine
whether
or
not
do
they
do
these
project
proposals
meet
a
minimum
criteria.
In
terms
of
is
this
a
city
asset?
Is
it
an
asset
that
meets
the
statute
that
we
can
fund
under
statutory
purposes?
You
know
state
laws
that
say
we
can
do
these
things.
These
things
these
things,
so
those
initial
gates
are
generally
passed
by
most
proposals
that
come
in
to
come
into
the
plan.
E
So
then,
at
that
point,
what
our
charge
is
really
in
the
central
budget
office
is
really
to
sort
of
just
understand.
What
is
the
fire
department
asking
for?
What
is
the
police
department
ask
for
what
is
the
parks
department,
where
the
streets
cabinet
and
just
trying
to
through
basic
questions
like
you
know
who?
What
where,
when
and
how
is
like
who's,
you
know,
why
are
we
doing
this
project?
What's
the
need?
Who's
will
benefit
from
it.
What
you
know
is
it
a?
Is
it
a
neighborhood
park
that
has
a
very
localized
impact?
E
What
type
of
investment
had
been
done
there
in
the
past,
and
it's
really
our
our
effort
is
to
really
try
to
understand.
You
know
why.
Why
is
the
department
asking
for
this?
A
lot
of
departments
such
as
the
parks
department
have
capital
plans
or
or
like
open
space
plans
that
they've
looked
at
what
their
long-term
needs
are,
and
we
are
making
an
assumption
that
the
requests
that
we're
getting
year
to
year
reflect
the
next
perceived
set
of
needs,
so
once
those
all
come
in,
we
then
also
look
at
you
know.
E
Is
this
project
going
to
meet
a
legal
mandate?
Is
it
going
to
meet
a
a
health
and
safety
need?
Is
it
going
to
you
know?
Is
it
in
a
qualified
census,
tract
area
in
terms
of
like
basic
equity,
that
we've
looked
at
other
projects
in
and
at
that
end
of
the
day
we
sort
of
will
sort
of
look
at
and
rate
a
project
and
say
yeah.
E
This
makes
sense
to
do,
and
then
we
know
how
much
money
we
have
available
each
year,
and
so
we
will
try
to
honor
as
many
of
the
department
requests
as
we
can
and
for
the
most
part,
most
projects
that
departments
are
requesting
generally
get
funded
in
the
plan
or
are
included
in
the
plan
in
those
projects.
Even
years
when
we
say
say
we're
not
going
to
include
a
project
in
this
year's
plan,
we're
not
necessarily
saying
no
to
that
project.
E
It
may
be,
you
know,
say
premature
to
by
that
department
to
say
move
forward
on
a
project
an
example
might
be
school
department
is
requesting,
like
funding
for
around
2021
of
the
around
2022
of
the
arp
program.
The
msb
hasn't
invited
the
city
into
that
program.
Yet
so
for
us,
it's
a
bit
premature
to
put
it
into
that
to
put
that
project
in
the
plan.
E
If
the
msba
invites
the
product
city
into
the
po
into
the
program,
we
would
come
back
to
city
council
and
request
funding
for
it
other
other
projects,
a
department
may
ask
for
a
building
like
we
need
to
build
a
building,
they'll,
say
okay,
but
we
need
to
do
a
study
to
understand
what
is
the
program
that
you
need?
What's
the
populations
that's
going
to
be
served,
you
know
we
don't
know
where
this
building
is
going
to
be
so
before
we
make
a
like
a
full
throat
of
commitment
to
the
building.
E
J
It
answers
some
of
my
questions,
and
so
you
know
I
don't
have
the
benefit
of
the
being
a
sophomore
counselor.
I'm
a
new
counselor
still
learning
the
game,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
there
are
some
things
that
there's
some
dissonance
and
there
are
some
things
that
are
lost
in
translation
in
terms
of
trickling
up
like
so
when
I
look
at
some
of
the
projects
on
this
list.
D
J
Know
sort
of
what
I
hear
from
constituents
in
different
neighborhoods.
There
seems
to
be
sort
of
a
disconnect
between
what
we're
planning
for
and
what
folks
are
asking,
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
complete
dissonance
right.
Of
course,
some
of
a
lot
of
these
projects
are
responsive,
but
if
you
look
at
you
know
some
some
things
that
I
hear
in
matapan
and
high
park
aren't
really
reflected
in
terms
of
the
long-term
vision.
So
it
looks
like
the
conversation
that
happens
for
the
capital
budget
is
between
your
office
and
the
departments.
J
I'm
wondering,
if
included
in
this
community
listening
session.
You
also
include
and
incorporate
the
capital
budget
into
that
process,
so
that
it
is
more
reflective
of
what
everyday
people
want
to
see
in
their
neighborhoods
and
so
that
it
is
more
reflective
of
being
rooted
in
equity
and
in
that
corrective
action
you
know.
One
last
comment
is
about.
We
are
under
bonding
for
a
lot
of
projects,
but
you
know
how
I
feel
about
that.
J
I
think
that
we
need
to
just
be
getting
more
cranes
in
the
ground
when
we
have
a
finance
financial
capacity
to
do
that
and
we
under
bond-
and
that
means
price,
that
you
know,
projects
that
we
don't
see
go
through
in
a
year.
Another
project
could
have
gone
through
or
two
or
three
other
projects,
so
I'll
yield
my
time
because
madden
chair
yeah,
sorry,
did
you
hear
the
time
I'm
yielding
now.
I.
E
D
B
To
follow
up,
but
there's
there's
an
additional
part
of
the
listing
session.
We
did
hear
a
fair
amount
of
feedback
about
capital,
particularly
like
dog
parks
and
open
space
acquisition,
but
it's
we
consider
it
sort
of
like,
as
you
said,
like
a
good
chunk
of
them
do
respond
to.
They
voice
concerns
a
lot
of
our
feedback
loop,
but
we
call
it
like
constructively
redundant.
B
So
as
a
as
an
elected
official
you
might
be
advocating
for
it
we're
also
hearing
from
the
the
ons
liaison
we're
also
hearing
it
from
the
local
state.
Rep
we're
also
hearing.
So
any
of
those
we
don't
discount
any
of
the
feedback
loops
that
that
provide
or
or
help
prioritize
investments,
they're
all
they're,
all
valuable
and
they're
all
all
so
maybe
the
age
of
city
agency,
who's,
the
has
the
care
custody,
controller.
B
B
Sure
sure
I
mean
it's
in
where
we
can
work
towards
other
other
metrics
associated
with
with
how
to
assess
this,
but
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
some
of
the
the
the
department
who
has
the
care,
custody
and
control
of
the
asset
has
a
little
bit
of
more
insight
into
why
something,
and
some
of
it
is
coordination,
whether
it
be
funding.
You
know,
maximizing
external
resources,
engineering,
because
a
lot
of
times
we
have
the
same
impact.
Why
can't
we
get
this
straight
and
they're
like
wow?
You
know
you
know
the
t's
doing
this.
A
Yeah
good,
thank
you,
council
murphy,.
K
K
I
was
happy
to
see
like
the
east
boston
senior
center.
I
know
we
need
more
senior
centers,
so
I'm
going
to
always
go
on
record
to
advocate
for
more
stand-alone
senior
centers.
Also,
we
know
that
the
ones
connected
to
schools
can't
start
programming
till
the
afternoon
and
seniors
need
our
support
during
the
day.
Also,
but
happy
to
see.
East
boston
is
getting
one.
When
I
drive
by
garvey
park,
I
always
do
say
I
think
it's
a
success
story
of
the
year
connected
also
to
the
dcr
rink.
You
see
so
many
kids
in
the
playground.
K
Kids,
you
know
playing
football
street
hockey.
Anyone
who
drives
by
it's
it's
great
to
see
it's
being
used.
The
dog
parks
there
also
so
hope
to
see
more
of
those
park
show
up
across
the
city.
K
Also,
let's
see
the
other
one
was
oh,
the
libraries,
the
ribbon
cutting
in
roslindale
and
dorchester,
so
hoping
to
see
more
of
those.
I
know
the
libraries
have
become
you
know
not
just
places
where
kids
go
to
take
out
books,
they're,
really
community
centers
in
our
neighborhood,
so
great
to
see
that,
and
I
do
believe
it
will
come
up
at
the
parks,
department
and
property
management
because
they
own
the
building
but
kind
of
to
go
off
what
council
louisiana
mentioned
like.
How
do
you
get
projects
onto
this
list?
K
I
do
want
to
go
also
on
record.
I've
always
wanted
to
advocate
for
the
animal
shelter
which
I
know,
property
management
owns
the
building
that
menino
gave
them
decades
ago
and
did
a
tour
of
it
so
at
any
chance
or
if
I
could
get
some
insight
after
this
meeting
on
how
to
really
advocate
to
make
sure
we
have
a
permanent
animal
shelter.
Building
somewhere
in
the
city
is
something
that
I'd
like
to
see
so
happy
to
be
here
and
listening
to
the
great
projects
coming
up.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
L
Madam
thank
you
madam
chain.
Thank
you
to
the
panel
one
of
my
questions
on
the
grove
hall
bcyf.
A
lot
of
a
lot
advocates
were
excited,
there's
a
great
need
for
bcyf
inside
of
grove
hall.
L
You
know
the
community
engagement
started
and,
of
course
you
know
our
neighbors.
Our
residents
want
the
best,
and
in
that
community
engagement
it
sounds
like
we
had
so
many
amenities
that
we
outgrew
the
place
that
we
identified
for
grove
hall
community
center.
Is
there
any
re-engagement
on
having
a
conversation
with
those
advocates
in
grove
hall
to
let
them
know
you
know,
or
just
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
can't
fit
on
that
plot
on
land
that
was
identified,
and
can
you
also,
let
me
know
where
we're
at
in
the.
G
Is
study
for
all
of
dorchester,
so
we
had
we
developed
a
cac
committee
for
advocates
of
each
area
of
dorchester
because
it's
so
vast
and
we
engaged
the
community
and
had
we
had
four
community
meetings
so
far,
basically
to
develop
the
program
once
we
developed
the
program
and
then
we
do
sighting
studies.
So
we
looked
at
five
sites
throughout
dorchester
grove
hall
being
one
of
them
and
for
an
ideal.
G
Essentially,
an
ideal
community
center
would
be
between
forty
five
thousand
and
sixty
five
thousand
square
feet.
The
grove
hall
site
is
forty
three
thousand
square
feet,
so
the
but
again
there
are
other
sites
in
dorchester
identified
as
part
of
that
study,
and
so,
when
we
complete
this
study,
we
will
provide,
I
wouldn't
say,
a
recommendation:
we're
going
to
provide
pros
and
cons
for
each
site
that
we've
identified.
G
Some
being
the
you
know,
we
looked
at
different
pot
lands
for
state
and
city
owned
that
takes.
You
know
that
adds
another
year
to
a
project
to
do
an
a
land
acquisition
the.
So
we
look
at
that.
We
look
at.
We
do
a
test
fit
to
say
which
basically
is
building
blocks
for
what
the
program
looks
like.
So
if,
if
a
community
fails
strongly
about
a
pool
in
an
auditorium
or
a
maker
space,
you
know
we
want.
We
want
all
of
that
feedback.
G
Bcyf
did
a
great
job,
modern,
our
team,
keeping
this
very
active
and
interactive
on
their
website,
and
we
did
we
we
got.
We
got
it
more
than
we
usually
get
for
feedback
from
all
across
dorchester
and
so
basically
we'll
we're
we'll
be
wrapping
that
site
up
in
may
this
may
and
we
will
be
making
a
recommendation
for
not
not
a
recommendation
based
on
the
five
locations
we
will
ident.
You
know
we
will
say
what's
best
for
each.
You
know
pros
and
cons.
G
I
guess
is
the
best
way
to
say
it,
because
some
areas
that
were
identified,
they're
they're
too
dense
they're
too,
maybe
some
too
residential
there's,
not
an
area
where
you
could
put
any
greenery
around
that,
and
that
was
overall.
A
lot
of
the
residents
wanted
some
green
space
in
in
addition
to
having
the
community
center.
G
So
we
will
be
finishing
that
up
in
may
and
we
will
make
a
recommend
provide
a
list
to
the
mayor
and
the
team,
and
there
is
money
in
this
fiscal
year
to
start
a
design
in
deutsches
somewhere
in
dorchester,
based
on
the
sites
that
have
been
identified.
So
there
is
money
that
we
would
be,
starting
probably
in
september,
a
actual
design
and
build
of
a
dorchester
community
center.
L
G
L
L
E
Excuse
me
so
I'm
just
looking
at
district
four.
E
In
this
year-
and
we
there
are
three
we're
proposing
three
new
projects
in
the
plan,
so
the
geneva
cliffs
urban
wild
project
is
an
improvement
there
at
norwell
street
square,
but
there's
also
some.
There
are
also
some
existing
projects
that
are
in
the
plan,
the
fields,
corner
branch,
library.
E
If
I
will
take
a
look
and
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
level
of
investment,
in
terms
of
you
know,
the
we'll
take
a
look
at
we'll,
take
a
look
and
see
what
we
what
has
been
invested
and
what
you
know.
If
there's
other
opportunities.
E
Yeah,
if,
if
they're
specific
nope
the
we,
we
receive
capital
project
requests
from
a
variety
of
sources.
So
if
there's
avenues
to
get
those
requests
to
us
to
consider,
it's
that's
good.
If
there
are
yeah,
if
constituents
are
advocating
for
like
park,
improvement
or
stuff-
and
I
don't
direct-
we
don't
generally
directly
hear
from
a
constituent.
We
usually
hear
it
indirectly
from
a
department
or
an
elected
official
or
something.
E
Yeah,
well,
I
would
say
you
know,
I
guess
for
sort
of
honesty
is:
is
the
capital
planning
process
is
as
good
or
as
bad
as
a
human
system
is
right
and
lots
of
systems
in
city,
government,
state
government
and
everywhere
else
are
imperfect
right?
So
we
attempt
to
respond
to
the
things
that
we
are
the
project
proposals
that
are
put
in
front
of
us
and
we
react
to
those.
So
I
we
don't
react
to
projects
that
we
don't
see
right.
So
that's
could
be
a
pro.
E
That's
a
problem
right
that
I
think
the
chair
has
highlighted
right.
So
if
you
don't
get
the
request,
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
respond
to
something
that
you're
not
saying.
So
we
need
to
look
at
ways
that
you
know.
If
that's
what
is
happening,
we
need
to
find
ways
to
correct
that
and
happy
to
work
with
you
or
any
other
city
councilor
to
make
sure
that's
not
happening,
but
I
you
know
I
did
look
at
you
know
we
shared
some
of
the
information
the
last
few
years
with
you.
E
I
do
see
a
progression
of
increased
investment
since
2018,
where
we
had
it
where
there
was
like
25
million
dollars
allocated
to
district
4.
E
If
it's
just
a
general
program
that
information,
I
guess
I
would
suggest
you
reach
out
to
streets
cabin
and
talk
with
the
asha
and
try
to
get
a
better
understanding.
What
is
happening
specifically
in
district
4.
If
that's
your
area
but
happy
to
work
with
you
on,
you
know,
understanding
where,
where
are
we
short
in
your
view
on
in
this
in
this
plan?
Thank
you
so
much.
A
Thank
you,
council
rowe.
I
have
some
questions
and
they
they
they're,
going
to
sound
kind
of
repetitive,
but
I'm
going
to
try
to
my
best
to
break
it
down
so
that
we
get
more
specific
answers
in
terms
of
your
actual
selection
project
for
selection
process
for
the
capital.
A
B
It
could
could
be
any
number
of
different
things
which
prior
you
know,
projects
are
flagged
so
and
we
don't
want
to
also
discount
departments
so
that
like
public
works
has
has
engineers
who
go
out
and
do
a
survey
all
the
time
and
they
paid
me
in
condition.
So
there
might
be
an
area
in
the
city
that
no
one's
calling
on
it,
but
they
for
whatever
reason,
no
one's
calling
or
flagging
it
as
an
issue,
but
they
know
from
their
professional
expertise
that
that
should
be
addressed.
A
B
Yep,
so
that
that's
one
feedback
loop,
they
they
schedule
it
out,
but
department
chiefs
yep.
If
they
show
up
on
3-1-1.
My
street
is
terrible
fix
it,
please
city,
but
oftentimes.
It's
the
same
folks
who
put
that
call
and
also
call
their
their
city.
Councilor
say
you
know.
Can
you
please
prioritize?
It
go
straight
into
the
marriage.
D
B
So
those
are
all
things
and
the
that
part
of
the
thing
is
called
programs.
That's
the
most
flexible
part
of
the
capital
programs,
because
it's
sort
of
it's
not
you
know
it's
not
like
a
building
where,
where
kerry
is
going
out
and
saying,
I
got
to
do
a
very
specific
set
of
plans
for
it.
It's
sort
of
units
and
rates
on
on
paving
or
sidewalk
repairs.
B
You
try
to
react
to
that,
because
we
had
a
group
of
with
folks
from
the
kennedy
school,
a
team
of
students,
and
they
characterized
that
and
they
they
referred
to,
that
the
name
they
came
up
with.
The
creative
name
was
lumberjack
people
who
are
masters
of
the
public
system,
who
know
who
to
call
when
to
call
on
the
right
time
to
call
did.
B
A
Communities
have
access,
we
had
bu,
look
at
311
responses
and
apparently
it's
the
same
so
affluent
communities,
people
with
money
and
resources
know
how
to
navigate
and
access,
and
there
are
people
that
have
resources
in
poor
communities
as
well,
but
very
limited
right.
So
I
I
want
to
understand
you
get
so
you
get
recommendations
and
then
does
the
mayor
say
I
like
that
recommendation
or
I
don't.
How
does
it
work.
B
I
feel
I
feel,
like
obviously,
there's
been
a
change
change
in
administrations,
but
there's
a
deep
desire
to
be
very
collaborative
with
with
all
folks,
and
there
are.
There
are
like
even.
D
A
A
A
There
are
only
four
four
parks
being
addressed,
but
then
we
go
to,
for
example,
district
eight
and
there
are
seven
and
then
supposedly
there
are
17
dish,
17
parks
in
district
7,
but
then
I
found
that
geneva
cliffs
was
categorized
as
roxbury.
That's
in
dorchester,
it's
not
in
roxbury.
A
I
also
found
that
egglesson
square
was
part
of
in
district
seven
and
at
eccleston
square
is
not
in
district
seven
and
then
the
bcyf
design
that's
listed
under
district
seven,
but
it
says
dorchester,
but
then
today
we
heard
that
we
don't
know
where
it's
gonna
go.
A
A
And
if
the
location
that
my
colleague
council
rarel
is
talking
about
is
on
the
left,
which
is
his
district,
but
the
design
is
listed
as
dorchester
you're
talking
about
district,
his
district,
not
mine,
so
we
just
have
to
make
sure
we
come
through
and
make
sure
we
take
all
of
these
projects.
That
says
that's
under
district
seven
and
I
speak
for
all
of
us.
A
I
think,
and
make
sure
that
they're
going
in
the
right
town
in
the
right
districts
because
it
looks
like
it
looks
good,
but
it's
not
that
it's
not
it's
not
always
accurate
and
it,
and
I
and
I
like
that
there
are
so
many
positive
and
wonderful
projects,
but
then
to
speak
to
counselor,
rorell's
point
or
even
counselor
louisiana's
point
about
that
communication.
A
If
I
come
to
you-
and
I
say
this
is
my
feedback
and
administration
and
other
people
tell
you
that
and
I
didn't
write
it
down
and
we
have
no
metrics
and
we
actually
have
no
formula
on
how
we're
measuring
this,
but
then
the
city,
not
you
guys
here
in
front
of
me,
everyone
is
saying
racism
is
a
public
health
crisis,
but
this
plan
and
then
let's
entertain
me
for
a
little
bit
bear
with
me.
This
plan
is
highly,
is
really
good
because
it
addresses
climate
injustice.
A
Supposedly,
if
that's
the
case,
if
more
black
babies
die
of
climate
injustice
in
matapan,
then
why
are
we
putting
almost
five
ten
times
the
amount
of
money
in
climate
injustice
all
the
way
in
fenway,
where
we
know
black
babies
die
of
climate
injustice
in
mattapan
more
when
we
know
it's
third,
we
die
30
years
sooner
than
back
bay.
So
when
we
look
at
this
budget-
and
we
look
at
matapan
and
we
look
at
areas
in
dorchester
and
we
look
at
roxbury
even
in
roxbury-
let's
break
that
down.
A
That
looks
kind
of
promising
because
it
looks
like
it's
more
there
a
lot
of
projects
that
were
in
the
play
for
years,
but
if
I
know,
for
example,
if
I
have
seven
kids
or
nine
kids
nine
districts,
if
I
have
nine
kids-
and
I
know
one
of
them
well,
one
of
them
is
not
so
bright
one
of
them.
He
can't
read
that
well,
wouldn't
I
make
sure
that
I
get
him
on
hooked
on
phonics,
wouldn't
I
say
I
know
that
that
baby
that
baby
I
gotta
go
with
him.
I
gotta
help
him.
A
I
gotta
give
him
more
tutoring.
I
gotta
look
out
for
him.
It's
my
job
to
make
sure
that
baby's
okay,
too.
Wouldn't
I
then
go
to
the
baby
and
say
hey
baby.
What
do
you
need
in
order
for
you
to
be?
Okay,
so
you
don't
die,
and
so
it's
the
city's
responsibility
and
that's
the
capital.
We
have
so
much
work
to
do
on
this
capital
in
this
budget,
because
that's
what
that's,
what
it's
looking
like:
we're
fighting
climate
injustice
in
fenway
and
back
bay,
but
people
die
more
of
climate
injustice
in
dorchester,
roxbury
mattapan.
B
No,
I
I
agree
the
not
every
sort
of
you
need
to
target
the
investment
to
try
to
resolve
the
issue,
and
if
there
is,
you
know,
I
believe
I
mean
that's
part
of
the
whole
sort
of
context
within
the
american
rescue
plan.
The
metrics
associated
with
it
qualified
census
tracts
disproportionately
impacted.
That's
that's
the
whole
construct
of
the
resource
allocation
and
you
have
to
sort
of
demonstrate
that
and
that
that's
this
sort
of
came
out
of
the
pandemic
to
say
that
certain
popular
populations
were
more
disadvantaged
or
adversely
impacted
than
others.
B
So
they
they
will
have
a
higher
level
of
investment
needs
to
occur
there
and
that's
precise.
I
think
exactly
what
you
said
about
education
is:
is
a
recurring
theme
that
we
hear
from
from
bps
on
a
regular
basis
that
you
have
to
you
have
to
address
the
need
of
the
child
to
make
it
all
equitable.
So
there
may
be
certain
students
that
the
resources
required
to
get
that
student
to
the
same
level
is
four
times
as
much.
I
mean
there
are
district
placements
that
are
even
significant.
A
So
if
matapan
needs
it
four
times
as
much
and
we
have
a
responsibility
to
look
out
for
matapan,
then
why
is
matapan
getting
43
million
dollars?
Why
is
it
wait?
Because,
if
the
departments,
if
I
want
to
see
how
many
parks
in
open
space
and
beautifications
and
preservations
were
recommended
for
matapan,
if
I
keep
talking
to
you
and
asking
you
these
questions
about
equity
and
you're,
telling
me
the
stock
process,
you
said
you
said
the
department's
coming.
They
recommend
it
well,
never
mind
what
you
approved.
A
A
That's
one
thing
and
then
the
other
thing
is
in
terms
of
what
my
counselor
colleague
bach
was
saying:
if
we're
not
putting
project
managers
and
all
that
stuff,
but
how
we
fund
things
as
well,
that's
how
we're
not
getting
to
them
so,
for
example,
in
the
actual
city
spending
you'll,
see
like
how
much
percentage
of
the
city's
money
is
going
into
each
capital
project
and
how
much
of
grant.
A
So
if
you
fully
fund
fenway
with
cities,
money,
that's
going
to
get
done
right
away,
that's
going
to
get
done
the
money's
there.
We
know
we
got
the
money,
it's
our
money,
we
can
rely
on
it,
but
if
you
only
fund
50
of
something
in
roxbury
and
you're,
relying
on
other
funds
to
come
in
other
grants,
we're
probably
going
to
be
waiting
right,
that's
not
necessarily
a
guarantee-
and
I
think-
and
I
broke
that
down
and
now
I
can
distribute
that
to
everybody
and
we're
wondering
then
what
how
does
that
decision
get
made?
B
E
Yes,
you
just
mean
in
terms
of
like
how
do
we
assign
grant
funds
to
a
particular
project
versus?
Is
that
the
question.
C
E
So
the
the
grants
usually
will
follow
the
the
type
of
project
it
is
so,
for
instance,
the
city
applied
for
a
grant
from
msba
for
the
boston
arts
academy.
We
were
invited
into
the
program
the
grant
is
tied
to
that
project,
so
the
grant
flows
there
right
so
and
then
the
city
makes
up
the
difference,
for
whatever
the
total
project
cost
is
from
the
from
the
grant.
E
E
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
not
sure,
really
how
to
respond
to
the
question,
because
the
grants
are
really
project
based
right.
So,
if
we're
talking
about
fenway
the
say
the
muddy
river
project,
it's
an
89
million
dollar
project.
It's
been
in
the
plan
for
20
years.
It's
largely
funded
with
federal
funds
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
there's
about
10
million
dollars
in
city
funds
to
support
that
for
the
various
phases
that
it's
going
through.
E
A
E
A
D
E
If
a
project
we
want,
if
we,
if
the
city
chooses
to
do
a
project,
that's
not
like
say
eligible
for
any
type
of
grant,
we
would,
in
the
city
choose
to
do
the
project.
We
would
fund
it
with
100
city
funds.
That's
right!
Yes,.
A
A
I
gave
you
an
example
that
mattapan
doesn't
have
money.
Things
are
not
being
funded
if
their
projects
are
not
coming
to
your
table.
They're
not
coming
in
front
of
you,
you're
saying
and
then
jim
said,
hey
it
matters
how
people
can
navigate,
have
this
power
resource
to
navigate
resources,
to
be
able
to
advocate,
to
be
able
to
be
in
front
of
us
with
departments
or
chiefs,
or
you
know
electeds
that
matters
right
so.
E
A
Us
as
a
city,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
go.
Look
at
the
baby.
That
is
right
that
absolutely
that
that
right,
that
needs
more
and
I'm
saying
to
you
that
we
together
have
to
do
a
better
job
at
going
and
look,
we
can't
blame
the
victim
is
what
I'm
telling
you
we
can't
look
at
who
needs
it
and
say
they
did
they
weren't
in
front
of
us?
We
can't
that's,
not
that's,
not,
okay,
our
job.
I
think
together
me
too,
I'm
guilty
of
this,
because
I
should
do
my
job
to
learn
more
to
understand.
A
If
I
knew
if
I
had
known
that
this
was
gonna,
this
was
happening
right.
I
should
do
my
job.
I
should
go,
learn
about
what's
happening.
What's
missing,
it's
my
job,
I'm
telling
you
it's
my
job
and
that's
what
I'm
saying.
I'm
saying
we
can't.
We
can't
do
this
again
or
we
have
to
change
this
right
and
you're,
saying
yeah
we're
willing
to
change
it
and
that's
the
that's
the
beauty
of
this
of
this
conversation.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
we'll
go
to
public
testimony.
If
there
are
any
signed
up,
if
there
aren't,
then
we'll
go
to
second
rounds.
A
We
have
first.
A
Yeah
I'd
rather
it
in
written.
Please.
A
Okay,
so
just
write
it
on
the
paper:
okay,
thanks,
cora,
okay,
derek
evans,
please
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
so
sorry,
I've
taken
up
so
much
time.
I
will
my
time
we'll
do
a
second
round
for
sure.
Okay,.
M
I
want
to
mention
again
malcolm
x
park
in
roxbury,
which
is
district
7
and
where
I
live
within
50
feet,
I
have
a
home
and
other
properties
within
50
feet.
Of
this
part,
we
have,
I
think,
the
city
of
boston
right
now
is
in
a
situation
where,
particularly
in
my
area
of
the
city,
after
decades
of
egregious
municipal
neglect
in
district
7
and
including
malcolm
x,
park,
historical
neglect,
it's
well
known,
it's
nationally
and
internationally
known,
as
well
as
in
the
city
finally
been
recently
as
far
as
the
park
in
the
parks
department.
M
This
much
welcomed
increased
investment
capital
improvement
project.
However,
if
it
doesn't
yield
equitable
outcomes
or
fiscal
responsibility,
that
investment
is
very
much
unwelcome.
M
M
The
malcolm
x
park
improvement
project,
somehow
creeped
during
a
two
and
plus
year
process
of
myself
and
others
being
engaged
in
it
first
fiscally
from
something
that
was
about
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
to
something
that's
now:
8.8
million
that
8.8
million
despite
its
size,
and
it's
welcome
as
a
number
right
of
fiscal
investment
capital
investment
has
somehow
and
despite
the
community's
participation,
has
somehow
morphed
into
this
octopus
of
a
capital
investment
project
that
has
harmful
outcomes
that
we
did
not
participate
in.
Okay,
ask
for
and
do
not
want.
M
A
Thank
you
so
much
sorry,
johanna
hines.
N
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
asking
such
important
questions
and
raising
really
meaningful
points.
Thank
you.
It
was
a
pleasure
to
to
listen
and
to
be
a
part
of
the
just
to
be
a
part
of
the
experience
and
I
have
to
say,
as
a
resident
of
charlestown,
I'm
definitely
jealous
of
those
living
in
other
districts.
N
It
would
be
nice
to
have
some
representation
here
today
or
anytime
in
the
last
month
or
so,
and
it's
really
hard,
because
there
are
big
things
happening
in
charlestown
and
we
we
need.
We
need
a
voice
to
be
speaking
for
us,
so
I
have
a
question.
10
goes
to
parks,
which
is
really
small
when
you
consider
it.
A
third
goes
to
concrete
and
asphalt
for
impermeable
surfaces
like
streets,
which
obviously
need
work,
but
from
that
10
that
goes
to
parks
is
any
of
the.
You
know.
N
I
was
also
told
today
by
the
head
of
the
parks,
department,
design
and
construction
unit,
director
of
the
capitol
plan,
that
I
should
call
3-1-1
when,
after
writing
and
she's
busy
to
her
several
times
with
videos
showing
the
piles
of
black
pellets,
that
kids
in
charlestown
are
tossing
at
each
other's
faces.
Like
it's
sand
at
the
beach.
This
stuff
is
really
toxic.
It
hasn't
been
vacuumed
up
in
10
years
and
yeah.
It's
a
it's.
N
A
public
health
hazard
dogs
are
licking
off
their
paws,
kids
are
getting
it
in
the
chocolate
frosting
on
their
donuts
when
they
sit
in
the
sidelines.
There
should
be
signs
when
you
walk
in
that
discloses
the
full
warning
of
what
this
stuff
is.
So
that's
a
capital
improvement.
That's
been
earmarked
for
charleston
for
quite
a
long
time,
not
sure
why
it
hasn't
been
done.
N
I
just
want
to
say
one
last
thing:
when
we
talk
about
why
certain
grant
money
is
going
to
neighborhoods,
you
nailed
it
on
all
of
that,
but
in
my
opinion,
it's
because
certain
places
have
been
designated
historic
landmarks
and
others
haven't.
Blc
has
been
around
for
almost
50
years.
Where
have
they
been
charlestown
is
the
oldest
neighborhood
in
boston?
I'm
just
talking
about
charleston,
because
that's
where
I'm
from
it's,
not
a
historic
neighborhood
according
to
boston,
that's
crazy
and,
furthermore,
the
lot
the
line
to
get
into
the
blc
right
now
is
around
the
corner.
N
We
I
mean
it's
just
the
playing
field
is
so
broken.
You
can't
get
the
money
unless
you're
landmark
and
you
can't
get
a
landmark
unless
you
wait
in
line
for
10
years
where's.
The
blc
been,
and,
like
you
said
people
in
I
mean
I
don't
where
I
live-
is
not
an
environmental
justice
area
in
the
neighborhood
of
charlestown,
but
I
know
a
lot
of
people
that
live
in
the
housing
in
charlestown
and
they
are
getting
well.
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word.
N
I
mean
400
trees
coming
down
from
charlestown
plan
to
come
down
this
year,
400
trees.
We
have
a
12
total
canopy
coverage
and
347
of
those
trees
are
in
the
environmental
justice
section
of
our
neighborhood
and
the
bricks
that
need
to
come
down
so
that
the
housing
can
be
restored
are
going
to
be
sold
at
a
very
high
price.
This
is
a
brick
hustle
and
it's
happening
all
over
the
city.
The
bricks
that
are
being
demolished
in
boston
are
worth
a
lot
of
money.
Where
are
they
going?
O
All
right,
so
please
peace,
so
I'm
gonna
put
in
layman's
terms,
I'm
from
roxbury
roxbury
has
been
being
very
gentrified.
We
know
what
it
is.
We
know
that
the
money
goes
to
the
people
who
already
have
it
into
neighborhoods,
that
don't
look
like
ours
and
when
they
do
spend
the
money
in
our
neighborhood.
O
It
is
not
for
us
and
we're
seeing
the
ugly
we
call
it
uglification
of
roxbury,
where
they're
building
these
new
buildings,
that
are,
I
don't
even
think,
they're
led
certified,
but
it's
kind
of
funny
that
they
just
look
horrible
and
it's
obviously
not
for
us,
and
it's
like
how
do
we
get
into
these
meetings
talking
about
a
community
process?
There's
no
community
process,
especially
for
budgeting.
So
it's
like.
O
We
don't
know
where
the
money's
going,
how
it's
being
spent
none
of
that
stuff
and
we
have
to
find
out
how
do
we
get
into
that
conversation
and
most
likely
we
should
be
the
ones
that
are
the
head
of
this
conversation,
because
I
see
in
other
places,
people
get
to
dictate
what
happens
in
their
neighborhood,
whereas
in
roxbury
we're
dictated
too
they're
telling
us
what
they're
going
to
do.
They're,
not
considering
our
voices
they're,
letting
us
know
that
when
we
speak,
they
don't
care
yeah.
O
So
I'm
like
how
do
we
get
into
that
same
room
when
we're
doing
this
budgeting
to
actually
do
the
budgeting
for
the
people
I
mean
because
last
time
I
checked
that's
what
it's
supposed
to
be
about,
it's
supposed
to
be
for
the
people
right.
So
why
are
you
building
for
other
people
and
neglecting
the
people
that
lived
here
already
and
I
want
to
know?
O
I
mean
there.
Is
this
money
here
like
we're.
Looking
at
this
budget
we're
seeing
millions,
there
are
people
that
are
under
house
and
you're
building
parks
in
other
places
that
don't
even
need
them.
So
it's
like,
when
are
we
gonna
start
putting
the
money
where
it
needs
to
go
to
actually
help
the
people
of
the
neighborhood?
O
Because
that's
that's
exactly
what
needs
to
be
happening,
and
then
it's
like
the
environmental
effect
is
always
kicking
our
behind
like
we're.
Always
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
people
with
asthma.
I'm
like
one
of
the
few
people
that
I
know
that
doesn't
have
asthma.
You
know
it's
like
and
you're,
saying,
like.
O
Oh
we're
going
to
just
take
these
trees
and
forget
that
grass
we're
going
to
put
something
that's
going
to
toxify
the
land
in
the
water,
we're
already
sitting
on
top
of
a
brown
field,
how
we
not
spending
money
in
order
to
fix
these
brown
fields
in
order
to
help
the
health
of
the
neighborhood
improve.
Meanwhile,
you're
bringing
other
people
into
this
neighborhood
who
don't
even
care
about
the
neighborhood.
O
P
Yes,
hi
I'm
here.
Thank
you.
Sorry.
I
can't
be
there
in
person,
I'm
here
to
comment
on
malcolm
x
park
and
to
support
the
neighbors,
my
colleagues
and
friends,
and
they
don't
probably
know
this,
but
back
in
the
late
90s
I
used
to
coach
running
at
the
roxbury
y
and
we
would
bring
the
kids
sometimes
to
to
run
around
there,
so
I
feel
very
attached
to
what's
going
on
there.
I
have
four
comments.
P
P
P
P
Yet
dozens
of
trees
are
still
proposed
for
removal
in
this
park
in
an
environmental
justice,
hiasma
neighborhood.
I
know
that
they
worked,
the
team
worked
on
getting
that
number
down
and
I
would
say
if
they
keep
working,
maybe
they
can
get
it
down
even
further
and
every
tree
matters
and
these
neighbors
and
park
visitors
really
value
them.
I
just
looked
it
up
online
and
found
the
american
society
of
landscape.
Architects
has
this
park
on
their
website
and
some
of
the
headings
in
the
description
are
the
natural
setting.
Thank
you
just
follow
it,
oh.
A
A
Q
I
have
some
copies
of
this
for
counselors
that
I
can
give
you
later.
My
name
is
liz
visa
and
I'm
president
of
the
friends
of
the
public
garden
I
also
represent
not
today,
but
I
represent
boston
park.
Abacus
is
really
important
that,
as
at
park
advocates,
we
know
that
the
entire
city
of
boston
and
all
this
green
space
need
advocacy
and
we
don't
want
to
divide
and
conquer.
It's
really
important
that
they
all
get
voices
and
strong
voices.
Q
The
good
news
is
that,
as
a
result
of
the
leadership
of
parks,
commissioner
ryan
woods
and
councillor
kenzie
bach,
we
got
money
into
the
fy
22
budget
to
restore
this
building,
it
is
falling
down.
It
is
dilapidated.
The
maintenance
crew
shares
this
space
with
rats
and
squirrels.
Q
It
is
not
to
code,
it
is
in
terrible
terrible
shape
because
it's
a
wood
structure
every
year.
It
gets
worse.
So
I'm
here
to
plead
with
you
to
advocate
that
the
parks
of
the
pfj
be
public
facilities,
assign
a
project
manager
and
use
the
money.
That's
sitting
there
to
be
used.
It
is.
We
are
very
grateful
and
thankful
that
that
money
was
allocated,
but
it's
been
sitting
and
every
year
this
building
just
becomes
worse
and
worse,
it's
historic
gem,
it's
our
public
garden,
america's
first
public
botanical
garden,
and
it
really
deserves
better.
A
Thank
you,
nice
and
short
sweet.
Can
I
can
I
just
ask,
and
I
don't
know
either
jim
or
the
team.
If
you
can
you,
because
I
sent
an
email
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
date
as
to
when
do
you
think
we
can
get
the
list
of
the
projects
that
were
proposed
but
but
denied.
B
Well,
you
know,
I
think
we
talked
earlier
that
there
there
isn't
really
we
projects
are
are
part
of
a
discussion
with
the
department.
So
it's
it's.
Never
usually
it's
a
city
asset
event.
B
Well,
in
some
some
semblance
of
it,
yes
yeah,
it's.
A
B
B
B
Of
verbal
or
written
request,
well,
we'll
work
on
it
counselor
that's
all
I
can
commit
to
do
is
we'll
we.
We
have
a
spirit
of
collaboration
with
you
and
we
will
we'll
work
in
that
direction.
B
But
if
there
are
any
particular
projects
that
you
want
to
advance
in
any
district
of
the
city,
we'll
be
happy
to
entertain.
That.
A
B
I
think,
particularly
with
programmatic
stuff,
it's
it's
it's
fairly
flexible
in
some
regards
paving
oh
good,
sidewalk,
repairs
and.
A
G
Branch
we're
working
with
bbda,
boston,
public
library
and
there's
an
rfp
that
went
out
for
actually
chinatown's,
I
think
more
advanced
in
terms
of
timing,
but
there
is
one
going
out
if
it
hasn't
already
our
department's
not
managing
that
process,
because
it's
a
different
statute
that
guides
that
once
we
did
once
we
decide
in
the
maya's
office
of
housing
too,
once
a
developer
is
established.
So
it's
it's
an
actual
great
opportunity.
It's
the
first,
the
city's
first
ppp,
which
is
a
private
partnership.
G
So
we're
excited
about
this
and
we're
working
with
the
library
and
the
other
department.
Sorry,
I'm
repeating
myself
and
once
that
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
this
when
they
do
with
bbda
and
because
we
cannot
spend
city
funds
on
anything
that
is
not
city
owned.
G
However,
there
are,
there
are
means
to
you
know
whether
it's
set
up
as
a
condo
or
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
of
all
the
legal
nuances
for
it,
but
where
we
would
develop,
we
once
the
core
and
shell
is
built
of
the
library
we
would.
We
would
then
take
ownership
of
that
piece
and
we
would
be
able
to
use
capital
funds
in
fitting
that
space
out
and
library
is
working.
G
F
Great
and
the
bcyf
tobin
community
center
accessibility
project.
Can
you
talk
about
that?
A
little
bit
in
timeline?
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
Folks
may
not
know
the
boston
breakers,
which
are
wheelchair
soccer
team
for
the
city
plays
in
this
in
the
gym
in
the
tobin.
But
the
only
way
to
get
up
to
it
is
through
this
one
chair
at
a
time
lift
that's
pretty
onerous
and
just
in
general,
of
course,
it's
a
huge
it's
just
a
huge
bcyf
center
and
the
lack
of
accessibility's
been
a
challenge.
G
That
project
we
actually
currently
have
a
retaining
wall
project
that
we're
doing
for
bcyf
at
the
tobin
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
incorporate
it
into
that
to
try
to
expedite
and
take
it
out
as
one
project.
G
But
we
could
look
at
that
counselor
one
one
is
a
different
because
one's
exterior
work,
which
falls
under
a
different
statute
to
do
work,
which
is
actually
can
happen
quicker,
whereas
the
accessibility,
if
it
involves
any
interior
building
work,
then
that
we,
but
we
will
look
at
that.
We
have
someone
that's
assigned
to
that
project.
That
probably
could
do
this
to
in
conjunction
with
that.
F
F
I
think
the
facility
that
they're
in
once
upon
a
time
we
envisioned
being
like
a
larger
campus
for
them,
and
then
we've
left
somebody
with
a
utility
we're
now
giving
like
the
whole
second
floor
of
it
to
ems
training
and
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
nobody's
kind
of
looking
out
for
the
actual
archival
activity
needs
they
have
out
there.
So
can
you
talk
to
me
about
that.
G
Sure
I
believe
we
have
a
study
in
this
year's
budget.
We
are
doing
the
the
current
ems
project
that
we're
doing
out
at
rivermore
there
with
the
archives
is
that's
actually
out
to
bid
right
now
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
pre-qualifications
but
the
actual
archives.
F
Okay,
well,
just
if
I
can,
if
I
can
register
that,
that's
something
I'd
really
like
to
follow
up
on
because,
like
I
said,
I
feel
like
somehow
and
it's
not
to
say
I
think
you
know.
Ems
training
is
important,
but
I
know
that
part
of
the
whole
point
of
getting
that
facility
out
there
when
we
did
was
to
try
to
help
bring
some
of
the
stuff
that
was
kind
of
an
abandoned
basement.
Space
in
bpl
into
the
archives
custody
have
sufficient
space
for
processing
and
proper
storage.
F
I
think
the
project
you
have
is
one
to
allow
them
to
have
rolling
shelves,
so
they
can
store
things
more
effectively,
which
would
hugely
increase
the
storage
space
because
they're
at
capacity
that's
great.
It
really
needs
to
happen,
but
there's
like
considerable
other
things
connected
to
having
a
real
professional
archive,
which
we
have
out
there
in
terms
of
the
staffing
but
which
we
don't
necessarily
have
in
all
the
capacities
and
I'm
just
a
little
bit
afraid
that
we
are
collectively
giving
away
to
other
uses
the
space
that
we
would
need
to
do
that.
F
Well,
so
I'd
also
like
to
understand
the
utility
contract
that
we
have
out
there
and
at
what
point
we
might
consider
giving
that
up.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
bach,
ed
is
not
here.
Come
celebrating.
I
Welcome,
let
me
get
this
thing
to
work.
Good
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
process
of
identifying
projects
that
that
will
will
get
into
a
timeline
into
a
into
a
list,
and
do
you
have
any
written
protocols,
policies
or
procedures
that
guide
this
process?
So
that's
a
standard
practice
that
that
you'd
follow
to
help
standardize
how
how
projects
get
onto
the
list
across
the
city.
E
We
we
have
a
guideline
that
we
share
with
departments
where
we
identify
explain
to
them
what
what
a
capital
asset
is,
how
to
make
a
request,
and
we
give
them
forms
to
complete
and
fill
out
so
that
we
can
have
a
common
understanding
of
what
it
is,
and
we
have
internal
obm
guidance
that
we
share
with
our
staff
to
here's,
how
to
approach
and
how
to
think
about
capital
requests.
E
I
I
think
so
I
mean
the
those
particular
projects
you're
talking
about
like
the
commonwealth
avenue
project
projects.
Those
are
very
long-term
efforts
to
have
them
come
to
fruition.
E
There's
multiple
steps
that
need
to
happen
for
them
to
happen
in
terms
of
being
formally
accepted
or
reviewed
by,
like
the
metropolitan
planning
organization
and
then
putting
being
put
on
the
transportation
improvement
plan
so
that
they
become
eligible
for
future
federal
funding.
That
process
can
take
many
multiple
years.
E
E
So
I
guess,
if
a
project,
if,
if
there's
a
major
project,
say
I
would
use
maybe
cummins
highway
as
an
example
where
the
streets
cabinet
has
proposed
making
improvement
on
commons
highway
from
things
like
harvard
street
down
to
the
square,
and
that
project
is
not
going
to
be
federally
funded.
It's
not
going
to
have
state
funding.
We've
allocated
24
million
dollars
to
that
project.
Streets
cabinet
is
working
through
the
design.
E
J
Thank
you
from
chair.
I
have
two
comments
and
a
question.
So
the
first
is,
you
know,
mayor
walsh's,
first
he's
the
first
to
appoint
a
chief
equity
officer
and
the
reason
why
I
I
hark
on
this
point
is
because,
like
we
all
throw
around
the
word
equity
and
I'm
almost
tired
of
of
saying
the
word-
because
it's
really
important-
she-
she
defined
equity
as
the
corrective
act,
a
corrective
action
that
we
need
to
take.
J
And
so
that's
why
I'm
hiking
on
this
point
is
that
if
we
are
really
rooting
ourselves
in
equity,
it
really
does
have
to
be
about
that.
J
That
is
what
we
would
consider
deep,
deep
community
and
investment
that
is
based
in
equity
right
then,
around
33
34
we
get
to
like
roxbury
mattapan
dorchester.
So
that's
what
the
root
of
these
questions
are
for
a
lot
of
us-
and
you
know
you
know
I
think
chair
madam
chair-
was
trying
to
you-
know,
pull
out
an
analogy
we're
on
if
there's
a
street,
and
there
are
four
houses
right
and
the
first
three
houses,
there's
no
fire.
The
fourth
house
was
a
fire
on
the
fire.
J
There's
a
fire
in
the
on
the
happening
at
the
house.
Your
hose
goes
to
that
house
first,
and
I
think
that
is
a
lot
of
what
we're
trying
to
pull
out
here
and
tease
out.
Second
question:
is
you
know
what
comment
is
on
capital
plan
and
our
ability
to
bond
on
public
land
for
more
for
more
housing?
J
I'd
like
to
see
that
as
part
of
the
capital
plan
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
we
as
you
you
hear
when
we
had
the
bond
here
and
we
talked
about
ways
that
we
can
be
creative
and
addressing
the
affordable
housing
crisis.
That's
not
living
up
to
our
you
know
not
even
meeting
our
debt
capacity,
you
just
you
know.
J
I
love
seeing
the
investments
that
we're
making
in
public
housing
when
it
comes
to
mildred,
haley
preservation,
and
you
know,
improvements
that
need
to
happen,
but
we
also
need
to
be
thinking
about
like
how
are
we
building
and
how
can
we
use
the
tools
at
our
disposal
to
do
that
building,
and
I
think
that
can
also
be
a
part
of
this
kappa
planning
and
then
third,
I
heard
a
really
great
comment
that
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
in
terms
of
timing
and
what
it
takes
for
us
to
to
do
land
acquisitions.
J
G
You
know
when
we
had
to
when
we
were
doing
engine
17,
we
did
a
friendly
taking.
You
know.
We
worked
with
the
church
to
take
the
property
in
front
of
m
and
17.
that
took
about
a
year.
If
it's,
we
also
work.
J
G
Sure
we
went
through
a
relative,
real
estate
person,
and
then
you
know
they.
Basically
we
approached
them
as
saying
you
know
we'd
like
to
look
at
this.
They
we've
got
fair
market
value
and
then
it's
really
a
negotiation
and
then
then,
once
it's
determined
and
settled
they
it
has
to
go
in
front
of.
G
G
G
So
yeah,
and
so
then
that
was
a
but
that
was
a
friendly
taken.
If
there
was
a
you
know,
a
land
acquisition
in
terms
of,
if
we
wanted
to
say
we
wanted
to
do
a
swap
with
the
state
for
a
park
land,
you
know
we
might,
they
might
be
interested
in
something
of
our
property.
So
it's
there's
a
lot
of
legal
nuances
to
it
that
obviously
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
that,
but
we
do
it's
mostly
it's
pretty
much
always.
G
I
think
it's
probably
50
000
square
feet,
at
least
it's
it's
a
ledge
right
in
front
of
the
existing.
It
was
privately
owned.
Prior
it
was
privately
owned
by
the
church.
Okay,
yes,.
K
A
Thank
you,
councilman
murphy,
so
I
think
I
think
it's
helpful
for
the
people
listening
and
obviously
for
the
constituents
that
are
in
the
audience
to
understand
why
we're
going
back
and
forth
and
then,
when
I've
mentioned
before
that,
you
know
the
capital
project,
the
capital
budget
and
we
in
terms
of
what
neighborhoods
are
getting
the
difference
between
matapan
and
fenway
per
se,
and
I
hate.
I
think
that
fenway
deserves
every
bit
of
that
money.
A
But
when
I
talked
about
what
where
the
money
was
coming
from,
and
then
you
just
talked
a
lot
about
in
terms
of
if,
if
it's
a
grant,
if
it's
federally
funded,
we
wait
right
because
there's
no
guarantee
of
that
that
part
of
money
actually
being
ready
to
go,
and
so
that,
I
think
that's.
A
The
point
I
was
trying
to
make
is
that
when
we're
deciding
what
percentage
of
city
money
goes
into
certain
neighborhoods,
it
makes
it
makes
a
big
difference
right,
because
then,
if
we
know
that
only
what
did
I
say
earlier,
if
we
know
that
only
a
certain
percentage,
let's
see
37
for
roxbury
of
the
city
money
is
going
into
roxbury.
A
Then
we
know
that
63
it
has
to
wait
or
it's
kind
of
not
a
guarantee
right
or
we
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
take
it's
unpredictable,
and
so
that
makes
a
huge
impact
is
roxbury.
Just
has
to
wait
longer.
Matapan
has
to
wait
longer,
and
so,
when
we
look
at
all
of
the
neighborhoods
and
what
percentage
of
the
city
money
is
going
where
and
if
100
of
fenway
in
district
7
is
being
funded
by
city
money,
they
have
to
wait
less
because
that
money
is
there.
E
I
I
guess
I'm
I'm
having
difficulty
just
understanding
when
I'm
not
asking
a
question.
I
I
know
I've,
just
I'm
just
try.
I
was
actually
just.
I
was
commenting
on
your
remark.
Yeah.
If
you
don't,
if
you
know,
if
I
may
please
the
fact
of
grants,
I
guess
I'm
not.
I
don't
fully
follow
you
when
you
say
there's
37
and
roxbury,
and
the
63
has
to
wait
so
roxbury
waits
I
I
it
would
be.
A
Yeah,
I
I
know
what
you're
saying,
because
it
depends
you're
like
well,
it
depends
of
the
project
and
what
they
qualify
for.
I
understand,
but
a
choice
is
being
made
as
to
whether
or
not
we
a
hundred
percent
fund
through
city
funds.
That's
still
a
fact,
and
I'm
saying
that
we
can
do
the
same
for
other
areas
as
well,
and
so
when
I
look
in
my
district
speaking
of
just
my
district
and
I
know
that
fenway
is
being
100
funded
by
city
funds
in
the
capital
budget,
but
roxbury
is
being
funded
45.
A
A
A
E
A
A
Okay
and
I'm
so
sorry
that
felt
I
don't
know
I
needed
to
explain
more.
I
guess,
but
I
think
it's
worth
us
looking
at
that
data
in
different
ways,
not
just
for
example.
If
I
give
you
neighborhoods-
and
I
say,
oh
jamaica
plain
is
getting
73
million
or
not
getting
but
proposed
hyde
park
is
getting
five
million
and
I
go
and
I
keep
going
I
go.
Financial
district
is
getting
eight
million,
fenway
kenmore
is
getting
237
million
plus
and
then
I
go.
East
boston
is
getting
100
million,
dorchester's
getting
133
million.
A
A
Are
we
funding
it
with
federal
or
where
the
grants
come,
because
then
we're
talking
about
everyone's
asking
about
how
long
does
it
take
well,
one
of
the
problem
is
how
you're
funding
it
and
if
you're
funding
roxbury
more
than
50
percent
with
federal
stuff
or
grants,
then
we
know
we
have
to
wait
longer.
We
always
have
it's
not
a
new
thing,
and
so
it's
important
for
us
to
really
look
at
those
data
so
that
we
can
say
hey
roxbury
deserves
to
not
wait
for
once
or
matapan
deserves
not
to
wait
for
once.
G
F
G
A
fantastic
school
and
we're
very
excited
to
open
that
up
for
another
in
roxbury
the
dearborn
and
that's
an
msba
project
in
roxbury,
the
dearborn
stem
school,
which
is
another
gorgeous
building.
That
was
also
an
msba,
so
the
investment
was
made
there
through
how.
G
Grand
funding
that
was
probably
this
was
five
years
ago,
so
it
was
probably
obviously
less
because
of
the
the
I
think
the
square
footage,
but
it's
it's
of
the
same
quality
as
the
baa.
It's
gorgeous
the
also
at
the
roxbury
library
that
actually
we
got
grant
funding
from
the
library.
I
forget
the
name
mass
library
association
we
actually
so
when
we
did
that
project.
That
was
another
20
million
dollar
investment.
G
When
we
did
the
bowling
building
again
in
roxbury
that
there
was
no
grant
funding
for
that,
but
the
library
the
school
did
have
grant
funding
associated
with
both
of
those
projects
and
multiple
award
winning
awards
that
we
receive
for
that.
For
those
buildings
we
also
invest
heavily
in
madison
park.
G
G
A
G
We're
doing
a
deep
dive
study
of
the
of
madison
park,
so
I
I
think,
because
the
the
price
tag
on
the
boston
arctic
academy-
that's,
I
think
it's
skewing
the
numbers,
because
if
you
take
away
144
plus
the
money
for
the
money
river,
that.
G
G
The
the
district
allocations.
A
So
it's
okay,
because
jim
said
where
we
can
change
move
things
around.
I
think
I
jim
said
it's
flexible.
So
I'm
happy.
A
To
convince
that
jim
said
no
kidding
it
and
to
my
concert,
colleagues,
please
press
your
button
at
any
point.
If
you
have
questions.
J
Counselors,
just
one
question
that
I
didn't
get
to
ask:
it's
just
curious,
like
you
know,
process
wise,
why?
Why
is
the
capital
budget
done
at
the
same
time
at
the
opera
as
the
operating?
B
Yeah
I
mean,
besides
just
the
integration
of
the
debt
service
as
part
of
the
operating
budget.
There's
probably
there's
typically
different
staff
involved,
like
at
the
department
from
the
operation
side,
the
capital
side.
So
I
think
I
think
there
may
be
some
statutory
requirements
that
needs
to
be
done
in
the
winter
time,
but
I
don't
know
that
it
has
to
it's
not
the
same
statutory
language
like
by
the
second
wednesday
in
april,
or
something
like
that.
B
But
but
it's
there
is
this
sort
of
view
that
people
are
in
a
budget
mode,
but
also
assessing
the
operational
impacts
of.
If
are
you
do
have
to
staff
this?
This
new
location,
like
the
the
reopening
of
seattle,
plaza,
is
now
we
have
a
more
activated
space,
but
it
is
we
kind
of
require
additional
staff
to
open
the
north
entrance
and
maintain
the
site.
J
Just
I
mean
yeah,
I
it
one
and
for
the
other
could
still
happen
on
a
on
a
slightly
different
schedule.
Where
I
mean
it
would
also
allow
the
extent
you
know
that
we're
able
to
have
an
impact
on
you
know
what
we've,
what
we've
heard
and
hearing
them
at
you
know
at
different
stages
or
what
we
aren't
able
to
get
into
capital
or
what
we
are
able
to
get
into
opera.
Just.
J
I
think
that
you
know
I
I
think,
there's
there's
some
tension
as
you
can
see
and
like
asking
the
questions
of
well,
why
isn't
this
neighbor
getting
this,
and
I
think
that
if
we
are,
if
we
have
different
listening
sessions
off-site
off
cycle,
it
could
also
help
to
bring
more
voices
to
the
table,
because
I
think
you
know-
and
this
has
been
mentioned
before
you
know
the
listening
sessions
this
this-
this
psycho
pilot
and
I
and
I
hope
that,
especially
when
we
are
trying
to
bring
in
people
across
class,
who
can't
hop
on
a
zoom
or
don't
have
the
time
the
resources
to
you
know
to
show
up
at
meetings
that
we
are
being
creative
about,
how
we're
doing
the
outreach
and
we're
cramming
all
this
one
type
of
outreach
at
one
time
that
really
disadvantages
folks
who
are
probably
used
to
being
disadvantaged-
and
you
know
we
should
always
be
thinking
creatively
about
how
do
we?
J
B
How
do
we
undo
that
yeah?
I
completely
agree
with
you,
so
we
that's
that's
part
of
the
iterative
process
to
like.
What's
the
best
way
to
reach
everybody
and
people
who
aren't
you
know
not
necessarily
amplify
all
voices
sort
of
authentic,
you
know
discussions.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
all
every
voice
is
heard
and
all
and
we
attend
to
all
the
needs
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
J
A
You're
welcome.
Do
we
have
any,
is
it?
Is
it
about
the
capital
budget?
Yeah?
Oh
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
You
can
very
much
you
can
have
the
floor.
Derrick
thank.
M
You
you
know
a
dollar
or
10
million
of
them
is
only
as
good
as
what
you
get
for
it,
and
this
is
a
very
good
and
productive
conversation.
I'm
glad
to
see
the
counselors
pressing,
the
city
administration
on
the
more
equitable
allocation
of
dollars
from
various
sources.
I
also
have
to
say
be
careful
what
you
pray
for.
Okay,
if
you
don't
also
demand
an
equitable
implementation
of
those
capital
investment
dollars.
M
The
fact
of
the
matter
is,
and
I'm
going
to
repeat
it,
because
it
has
everything
in
the
world
to
do
since
we're
further
along
on
the
allocation
and
expense
and
in
a
park
in
the
city
in
roxbury
at
malcolm
x
park,
and
in
this
case
this
project
is
so
wasteful
and
hypocritical
of
city
goals
and
irresponsible
in
terms
of
both
budget
and
equity.
The
two
bottom
lines:
it
is
a
case
study
and
what
the
rest
of
the
city
and
underserved
communities
may
end
up
facing.
M
M
M
When
there
is
one
200
feet
away
at
the
higgins
and
louis
school
of
the
same
size,
design
and
type
funded
under
this
mayor,
menino's
schoolyards
initiative
city
says
it's
for
the
benefit
of
school
school
says
we
got
one
okay,
it'll,
add
impervious
surfaces
and
cost
trees
on
the
most
historic
and
enjoyed
permit
by
many
part
of
the
park.
The
unnecessary
two
million
dollar
move
from
natural
sod
to
toxic
turf,
which
will
have
to
be
removed
eventually,
is
a
bad
implementation
of
equitably
allocated
8.8
million
dollars
to
this
particular
park
in
roxbury,
okay.
M
M
All
of
this
and
the
construction
delays,
whatever
it's
costing
on
a
daily
basis
in
the
contract
between
the
city
and
the
contractor,
is
not
fiscally
responsible
and
it
is
not
the
best,
equitable
or
otherwise
allocation
of
these
resources.
Final
point:
the
corrective
to
all
of
this.
M
The
council
has
a
job
to
do
on,
making
sure
that
the
allocations
are
equitable.
The
city
needs
to
empower
residents
and
citizens
and
listen
to
them
when
they
know
not
only
the
history,
the
culture,
the
uses
their
own
ada
neighbors
and
how
they
make
it
through
the
park
or
don't,
but
also
what
constitutes
budgetary
and
equity
shortfalls.
M
We
know
this
stuff.
This
is
not
the
time
to
me.
Testifying
here
today
is
way
past
the
time
for
the
city,
be
it
the
administration,
the
council
or
others
staff
to
be
considering
these
things
be
careful
what
you
pray
for,
because
inequitable
outcomes
will
happen.
If
you
just
throw
money
at
these
communities
that
sorely
deserve
it
and
then
walk
away
and
let
the
contractor
and
city
staff
do
whatever
the
hell
they
want
to
do
to
justify
the
allocation
again.
This
started
as
a
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
project.
M
It
morphed
into
an
8.8
million
with
tremendous,
hypocritical,
wasteful,
harmful,
publicly
environmental,
unjust
outcomes.
Tell
somebody
I
don't
know
who
it
is.
Maybe
I'm
not
in
the
right
place?
Perhaps
it's
our
mayor,
but
somebody
needs
to
know
that
this
is
an
accurate,
demonstrable
metric-backed
fact.
A
So
I
guess
I'm
interested
in
you
know:
where
do
we
go
from
here
right?
How
we
can
work
together
and
I'm
sorry?
We
we
had
a
signage
signing
system
and
you
signed
already,
and
you
wanted
to
speak
again.
Okay,.
A
We'll
take
final
testimony,
and
since
this
is
the
second
round
we'll
and
then
we'll
move
on
from
that,
thank
you.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
This
has
to
do
with
a
point
that
was
made
by
someone
I
one
of
the
I'm
sorry
the
woman
in
the
nice
pink
jacket.
I
don't
want
to
just
call
you
by
your
jacket,
but
you
made
a
comment
about
capital
funding
or
capital.
Money
cannot
be
used
on
city
land.
Did
you
say
that
or
non-city
land?
Okay?
So
I
have
a
question
as
it
relates.
This
is
a
serious
question
because
I
don't
know
the
answer
and
I
really
want
to
know.
N
In
2019,
mayor
walsh
gave
a
30
million
dollar
bond
to
the
bha
for
the
redevelopment
of
public
housing,
a
30
million
bond
was
given
to
boston
housing
authority,
which
I
understand,
may
not
be
the
city,
but
all
of
the
public
courtyard
space
that
those
buildings
sit
on
does
belong
to
the
city
and
they
have
hired
a
developer
to
build
on
top
of
that
space.
N
N
N
Finally,
and
this
is
really
directed
at
the
you
know,
because
the
mayor
has
such
great
ideas
about
being
climate
resilient
being
a
leader
in
the
green,
you
know
movement,
this
turf,
stuff,
there's
not
a
single
place
in
the
united
states
of
america,
where
you
can
recycle
it.
It's
made
of
toxic
materials
pfas
the
stuff
that
you
can
never
get
rid
of
plastics.
That
are,
you
know
the
worst
sort
of
plastics.
N
Where
are
they
going
to
go
when
in
10
years,
when
they
need
to
be
replaced?
There's
nowhere
in
this
country
where
they
can
go?
You
know
where
they're
going
to
go
to
a
poor
country
across
the
ocean
where
they
have
to
burn
it,
because
there's
nowhere
for
them
to
put
it
either,
so
we're
pushing
our
prop
this
bad
choice
onto
countries
that
deserve
better.
I
mean
that's
the
truth
read
about
it:
where
does
it
go
when
we're
done
with
it?
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
Miss
sarah
freeman.
P
Hello
again,
I
was
going
ironically.
P
I
was
going
to
also
mention
the
turf,
it's
still
being
researched,
some
of
the
different
alternatives,
but
the
decision
is
not
clear
that
these
are
healthy
and
they
are
a
challenge
to
dispose
of
each
one
is
tons
and
no
one's
willing
to
take
them,
and
if
there's
a
foundation,
that's
willing
to
upgrade
city
fields.
Maybe
this
city
can
request
that
they
not
be
artificial.
P
Nerf,
like
I
think,
it's
good
intentions
that
maybe
are
going
awry.
Fourth,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
young
people
back
to
malcolm
x
park
for
young
people
in
the
neighborhood
to
learn
about
their
history.
P
These
are
treasures
between
olmstead
and
malcolm
x.
They
could
learn,
you
know,
really
get
engaged
in
a
constructive
way.
So
thank
you
for
thinking
about
all
these
things
and
doing
the
hard
work
of
trying
to
find
good
solutions.
Thank
you.
A
A
There's
so
there's
capital
like
actual
like
budgeted
and
then
there's
actual
spending
right,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
the
prior
years
of
what
was
budgeted,
for
example,
for
d7,
it
was
106
million
and
by
the
way
just
so
you
know
this
is
I
got
all
of
this
from
what
you
sent
me.
I
didn't
you
know,
and
so
what
was
actually
spent.
A
But
then,
when
you
go
to
what
was
actually
spent
in
prior
year,
then
you
will
see
that
let's
see
capital
spent
prior
to
year,
zero
yeah,
so
two
million,
so
a
hundred
and
from
a
hundred
and
six
million
that
was
budgeted
and
then
2
million
was
spent.
A
And
then,
if
you
and
if
and
that's
the
big
difference
right
that,
if
some,
if
monies
are
available
from
the
city,
then
projects
can
move
forward,
and
so
it's
not
it's
not
as
abstract.
Even
if
I'm
only
talking
about
portions
and
I'm
not
going
to
name
because
love
my
fenway
people
and
fenway
itself.
However,
it
is
what
it
is
like
it
doesn't
matter.
A
If
I'm
talking
about
a
portion
of
fenway
or
what
project,
what
matters
is
what
gets
prioritized
by
city
funds
and
by
other
funds,
and
then
we
know
that
one
happens
faster
than
the
other.
So
how
does
that
decision?
How
is
that
decision
made?
And
then,
if
you're
saying
that
it's
a
list
of
things
there
are
criterias
and
you
have
forms,
and
then
you
send
that
over
and
people
fill
them
out
and
then
you
decide.
But
then
I
asked
you:
is
it
a
decision
with
admit
you,
your
team
and
the
mayor
and
council
and
departments?
A
You
said
it's
all
of
the
above
and
then
and
then.
Finally,
we
got
to
a
point
where
it's
like:
okay,
well,
we're
just
not
doing
we're,
just
not
addressing
equity,
we're
just
not
doing
a
good
job
addressing
climate
and
justice
in
poor
black
neighborhoods
in
this
proposal
at
least
right
and
then
I
looked
at
previous
years
and
we
have
all
of
these
comparisons
on
all
levels
percentage
of
money
spent
from
the
city.
Oh
no.
A
We
give
it
to
that
community,
not
this
community
percent
in
all
on
all
levels
in
the
past
few
decades,
how
we
spent
money,
but
then
how
are
we
proposing
to
do
it
this
year?
Not
that
different?
So
we
have
a
lot
to
look
at
and
you're
saying
that
it's
flexible,
it's
all
flexible
and
jim.
Then
you
said,
don't
blame
me.
It's
a
whole
bunch
of
people.
A
No,
no
jim,
I'm
joking,
you
didn't
say
that
you
said
it's
a
whole
team,
so,
but
I'm
looking
forward
for
all
of
us
and
we're
gonna
be
talking
and
I'm
gonna
be
sending
it
back
to
the
counselors,
but-
and
I
really
encourage
that
you
know
igr
sends
us
the
information
or
so
that
we're
prepared
for
the
future
hearings.
If
the
counselors
don't
have
any
other
questions,
I
think
that
we're
good,
I
think
we
can
close
here.