►
Description
Docket #0324 - Hearing on Civil Rights and liberties of returning citizens and re-entry into their Boston communities
A
B
A
Civil
rights
and
liberties
are
returning
citizens
I'm
in
order
for
a
hearing
on
the
re-entry
into
our
boston
communities.
This
document
is
sponsored
by
myself,
counselor
at
large
legion
and
counselor
brian
morrell,
who
represents
district
4..
I
want
to
thank
our
city
council
staff
ron,
cobb
and
carrie
jordan
for
helping
us
out
today.
A
I
want
to
welcome
everyone
here
in
accordance
with
chapter
20,
of
the
acts
of
2021
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meetings
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
in
person
and
virtually
and
is,
and
it
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
at
www.boston.gov
forward,
slash
city
dash
council
dash
tv
and
on
xfinity
8,
rcn
or
verizon
964.
A
I
want
to
thank
members
of
the
administration
for
joining
dr
rufus
falk
senior
adviser
to
the
mayor,
robert
turner
program
coordinator
in
the
mayor's
office
of
returning
citizens,
and
also
rupert
or
saunders
placement,
specialist
and
digital
intake
coordinator
at
the
mayor's
office
of
returning
citizens.
As
I
said,
my
name
is
rudzi
li-zhen.
I'm
a
chair,
I'm
chair
of
the
civil
rights
committee.
I'm
really
excited
to
be
having
this
conversation
today
around
how
we
can
support
a
formerly
incarcerated
residents,
reintegrate
back
into
our
city,
I'm
here
yeah
as
a
lawyer.
A
Who's
represented
folks
in
the
civil
process,
but
a
lot
of
whom
have
had
you
know
brush
have
been
part
of
our
criminal
legal
system
and
as
a
black
woman
who
grew
up
in
mattapan,
I've
had
loved
ones
who
have
unfortunately
been
dragged
into
our
very
carceral
state.
It's
often
too
easy
to
look
at
and
blame
personal
failures
when
one
of
the
biggest
issues
we
have
around
our
cultural
system
are
the
structural
policy
policy
failures
that
often
rob
people
of
choice
and
ability
to
avoid
the
system
altogether.
A
Renew,
formerly
incarcerated
residents
are
leading
the
way,
and
not
just
and
not
just
talking
about
the
service
deficiencies,
but
also
creating
those
necessary
services,
whether
that
be
folks,
like
leslie
credle
at
justice
for
housing,
donates
watson,
crossroads
consulting
a
lot
of
great
folks
that
we
have
here
today,
andrea
james,
was
here
from
families
for
justice
healing
there
are
so
many
folks
in
community,
many
of
whom
are
themselves
formerly
incarcerated,
who
are
really
leading
the
way
on
what
justice
looks
like
for
for,
formerly
incarcerated.
Folks,
as
I
stated
before,
we
live
in
a
costal
state.
A
The
united
states
today
has
the
highest
incarceration
rate
of
any
country.
The
size
of
the
american
criminal
legal
system
is
not
only
unparalleled,
but
it
is
also
deeply
racist.
African-Americans
latinos
and
indigenous
people
continue
to
continue
to
be
overrepresented
in
our
jails
and
prisons
and
numbers
dramatically
disproportionate
to
their
representation
in
the
population.
A
The
long
and
deeply
racist
history
of
the
american
criminal
legal
system
demands
that
we
take
action
to
right
those
wrongs
of
not
only
the
past
but
of
the
present.
We
must.
That
means
investing
in
our
communities
and
that
includes
investing
in
those
returning
home
from
behind
the
wall,
invest
in
their
recovery,
invest
in
their
economic
success,
invest
in
housing,
stability
and
invest
in
access
to
basic
things
like
access
to
vital
documents.
A
So
I'm
happy
to
everyone
for
being
here,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
off
to
my
my
fellow
colleague
a
co-sponsor
counselor
arou,
but
before
we
do,
I
want
to
just
say
that
in
the
city's
current
budget,
there's
a
1.28
1.28
million
investment
in
the
office
of
returning
citizens.
That's
a
dramatic
increase
from
what
was
really
only
just
staff
capacity
at
about
330
000.
So
I
want
to
give
credit
where
the
credit
is
due
to
sort
of
meeting.
A
I
don't
want
to
understand
how
incredible
it
is,
but
we
have
a
budgetary
process
and
one
that
is
becoming
more
inclusive
of
the
city
council
and
of
our
residents
in
total
and
almost
all
of
the
city
council
members,
all
of
the
newly
elected
ones
committed
to
a
community
process
that
would
commit
1.9
million
dollars
to
the
office
of
recovering
citizens,
not
only
to
fund
the
office
to
this
tune,
but
to
also
think
about
funding
community
grants
so
that
we
are
in
deep,
deep
partnership.
This
work
does
not
happen.
This
work.
A
Actually
it
starts
in
community
and
we're
just
trying
to
catch
up
here
at
the
city
level.
So
we
need
to
do
these
investments
we
need
to
and
can
do
a
lot
more
by
our
formerly
incarcerated
unincarcerated
residents,
and
we
also
must
be
judicious
stewards
of
our
resources
here
at
the
city
level.
That
means
making
sure
that
our
budget
reflects
what
we
value
and
if
we
say
that
we
value
those
who
are
most
vulnerable,
who
have
been
historically
excluded,
who
have
been
structurally
excluded,
it's
time
for
us
to
write
those
wrong.
A
C
C
C
D
E
Could
we
want
1.9
million
for
this
office
and
as
council
agendas
to
acknowledge
like
what's
already
in
the
budget
proposed
for
like
that
came
out
last
week,
is
a
huge
step
in
that
direction.
It's
a
quadrupling
of
the
office
and
at
the
same
time
I'm
sure
you
all
are
here
in
the
audience,
because
you
want
to
get
all
the
way
to
that
1.9
number
and
and
april's
a
starting
point
in
our
process.
So
I
mean
for
me.
E
I
think
that
when
you
think
about
returning
citizens,
they
they
really
are
the
test
of
like
how
our
society
is
working.
Like
you
know,
I
think
that
in
in
so
many
ways
what
we,
what
we
do
is
we
kind
of
like
strip
everything
away
from
folks
who
come
out
of
prison
and
then
we
sort
of,
I
think,
as
a
society
too
often
look
at
their
subsequent
circumstances.
Look
at
recidivism
and
say
gee.
Why
couldn't
you
do
better?
E
You
know
our
economy,
our
social
programs,
everything
that
we
do
just
more
kind
of
open
to
the
possibility
of
a
fresh
start
for
folks,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
that
and
the
idea
that
we
can
focus
that
kind
of
climate
core
work
in
lifting
up
this
community
as
well.
But
I
think
we
all
know
in
the
city
that
you
need
to
have
like
staff
focused
on
something
and
thinking
about
it
every
day
to
really
move
the
ball
down
the
field,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
hear
about
the
work
that
orc
is
doing.
E
A
F
F
I
first
moved
into
this
role
in
may
of
2019,
and
this
has
been
a
fight.
I've
been
trying
to
fight
daily
to
ensure
that
this
population,
these
communities,
that
we
serve
that
oftentimes
get
not
only
have
been
divested
but
have
been
intentionally
structurally
omitted
from
the
process
are
at
the
foot
of
the
table
at
the
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
the
conversation
versus
receiving
the
crumbs
and
being
impacted
by
policy
by
happenstance,
there
needs
to
be
a
level
of
intentionality
around
providing
services,
resources
and
supports
for
this
population.
F
So
this
this
conversation
is
timely,
but
I
feel
like
it's
just
to
start,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
introduce
my
my
colleagues,
robert
turner
and
rupert
saunders
for
the
herculean
efforts
that
they
provide,
for,
I
think,
once
the
office
was
announced,
the
expectations
were
never
met
by
the
capacity,
so
what
the
office
was
sold,
as
was
never.
It
never
was
built
with
the
resources
or
the
capacity
to
fulfill
the
narrative
that
was
produced
out
there,
and
in
spite
of
that,
these
two
gentlemen
have
done
some
amazing
work.
F
F
I
wear
a
city
hat,
but
I'm
a
kid
born
and
raised
in
roxbury,
I'm
a
kid
who
entire
friend
group
I
think
about
my
12
and
under
basketball
team.
I
don't
know
anyone
who
didn't
go
to
prison
so
in
saying
that
we
recognize
how
fragile
your
experience
and
childhood
could
be
and
how
that
can
impact.
Your
trajectory
into
life,
and
unfortunately,
when
many
of
our
brothers
and
sisters
are
returning,
they
still
wear
that
scarlet
letter
when
we
ask
them
to
have
to
to
begin
this
path
of
reintegration
of
society.
F
Systems
have
made
that
so
much
more
difficult
than
it
has
to
be.
So
as
a
city
we've
been
trying
to
streamline
this
process-
and
I
think
this
budget
is
a-
is
a
good
starting
point-
we're
talking
about
increasing
capacity
in
terms
of
staff
but,
most
importantly,
increasing
their
ability
to
fill
in
some
of
the
gaps
that
exist.
So
we've
had
gaps
dealing
with
everything
from
ids
dealing
with
larger
ass,
like
emergency
housing.
F
So
some
of
the
asks
that
we
made
in
this
budget
to
ensure
that
this
new,
this
current
staff
and
the
existing
staff
coming
in
will
be
able
to
fill
in
some
of
those
gaps,
but
also
recognizing
that
the
city
can't
do
everything
there.
There
is
a
the
city
plays
a
vital
role
and
I
think
part
of
this
conversation
is
figure
out
exactly
what
the
role
that
the
city
should
be
playing,
because
there
is
a
larger
network
of
individuals
and
institutions
that
are
part
of
this
process
as
well.
F
We
have
our
community
partners,
we
also
have
state
and
federal
partners
who
have
to
step
up
and
be
a
more
integral
part
into
this
reentry
process.
So
some
of
the
work
that
we've
also
been
doing
is
making
sure
that
we're
fortifying
and
solidifying
some
relationships
with
our
state
partners
in
the
department
of
corrections.
Because
much
of
this
work
we
talk
about
those
ids
can
be
remedied.
F
In
that
doc
space
we
have
individuals
who
are
re-entering
society,
making
sure
they're
actually
leaving
with
those
documentations
versus
showing
to
showing
up
to
return
to
citizens
office
needing
that
work,
and
that's
just
one
more
step
for
us
before
we
can
even
make
a
referral
for
unemployment
or
some
of
these
other
essential
services.
So
not
only
are
we
trying
to
beef
up
the
office
we're
trying
to
assure
that
we're
solidifying
some
of
these
external
partnerships
that
are
so
vital
before
you.
F
You
have
a
report
and
this
report
was
put
together
in
2021
for
those
of
you
in
the
crowd
that
don't
have
the
rapport.
We
can
make
sure
that
it's
public,
if
you
speak
and
send
this
to
you
as
well,
but
did
what
this
report
encapsulated
some
of
the
work
that
orc
is
currently
doing
some
of
the
work.
That's
happened
nationally
and
some
other
office
of
returning
citizens,
whether
it
be
d.c
or
in
houston,
some
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
then
trying
to
figure
out
exactly.
F
What
is
the
role
that
we
want
our
office
of
returning
citizens
to
play,
services
that
we
should
be
prioritizing
populations
that
we
should
be
prioritizing,
ensuring
that
we
are
filling
those
gaps
and
doing
our
due
diligence
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
leaving
folks
oftentimes
in
the
lurch.
I
think
oftentimes.
F
That
starts
in
our
neighborhoods.
And
how
do
we
support
those
individuals
who
are
leading
those
conversations
to
say
that
if
we're
really
talking
about
second
chances,
it
has
to
be
something
that's
from
the
grassroots
or
something
that's
on
a
community
level,
neighborhood
level
where
we
are
open
to
supporting
and
openly
ensuring
that
we
are
bringing
folks
back
into
a
place
where
they
can
be
self-sustaining
and
productive
adults.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
this.
F
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
consistent
present
in
that
space
as
well,
and
then
also
that
we
are
putting
more
emphasis
in
having
some
more
substantive
conversations
with
some
of
these
other
employers
to
ensure
that
you
can't
just
say
that
you're
quote:
unquote:
corey
friendly,
what
does
that
actually
mean
what
it?
What
how
are
you
actually
helping
to
assist
individuals
getting
get
into
back
into
the
employment
market?
So
I
know
you,
you
posed
a
few
questions.
F
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
having
us
today.
I'm
robert
turner.
I
was
hired
at
this
office
in
2017
july
of
2017..
I
had
came
from
the
boston
public
health
commission
over
at
the
woods
mullen
homeless
bureau.
I
am
a
returning
citizen.
I
got
out
in
09,
I
went
back
and
got
my
bachelor's
and
my
master's
and
I'm
also
a
licensed
substance
abuse
counselor.
Having
said
that,
I
do
know
how
hard
it
is,
having
a
criminal
record
of
and
trying
to
get
employment.
B
So
since
I've
been
here,
it's
been
super
frustrating
at
times,
but
I
try
to
be
living
in
the
solution
and
not
in
the
problem.
As
dr
faulk
alluded
to,
we
were
never
really
funded
with
this,
with
the
resources
that
we
need
so
I'll,
just
dive
right
into
what
we
do.
The
office
of
returning
citizens
was
was
created
to
help
returning
citizens
to
recover,
reclaim
and
rebuild
their
lives.
B
Our
office
supports
those
who
return
after
being
incarcerated
and
released
from
state
and
federal
accounting
facilities,
and
we
help
those
who
were
previously
incarcerated
and
we
we
early
on.
We
we
just,
we
knew
we
know,
and
we
still
know
that
there
are
four
or
five
different,
real,
immediate
resources
that
returning
citizens
need
and,
as
you
alluded
to
council
of
warro
is
housing.
B
Housing
has
been
a
really
tough
resource
to
place
people
in
because
of
their
criminal
background.
I've
spoken
with
many
many
men
and
women
who
go
and
live
with
their
grandma,
their
mother,
their
uncles,
their
girlfriends
in
section,
8
or
low-income
housing,
putting
their
apartments
at
risk,
but
their
loved
ones,
love
them.
B
I
have
the
brother
pastor
hobbs,
who
I
often
times
had
to
literally
beg
for
25
and
god
bless
him.
He's
graciously
helped
many
of
our
returning
citizens
with
25
and
other
external
partners
have
helped
them
with
a
mass
id.
You
cannot
walk
around
without
a
mass
id
period.
You
know
you
need
a
mass
id
to
get
a
job
to
get
resources
to
get,
and
god
forbid.
If
the
law
enforcement
stops
you
on
the
street,
you
don't
have
a
mass
id
health
care.
It's
a
huge
one
because
often
times
when
you're
incarcerated.
B
B
You
know
and
thank
god
for
the
sister
doneesh
watson
back
here
and
the
brother
chris
conway,
because
they've
been
collaborated
with
our
office
on
many
occasions,
because
when
people
come
home
they
need
mental
health,
they
need
a
therapist
and
brother
rupert
and
I
often
say:
please
get
yourself
a
therapist
because
they
can,
they
might
can
get
a
job,
but
they
can't
keep
a
job
and
if
they're,
trying
to
reunify
with
their
families
they
need
they
need.
Some
they've
been
locked
up,
not
to
mention
being
in
solitary
confinement.
B
You
know
for
years.
So
and
then
we
talk
about
education.
We
talk
about
empowering,
we
talk
about
helping
people,
get
real
jobs,
real
careers
and
and-
and
we
have
some
success
stories-
yes,
but
it's
not
enough
and
two
people
can't
do
it
all,
and
you
know
as
as
frustrating
and
as
challenging
as
it
all.
B
It
is
a
lot
of
times
we
may
have
seen,
and
I
have
some
numbers
later
I
can
go
through,
but
we
have
me
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
people
come
through,
but
the
goal
is
to
hopefully
make
sure
that
they're
plugging
into
the
resources
that
they're
seeking.
So
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
grateful
to
be
here-
I'm
grateful
that
your
u.s
council
of
city
are
going
to
fund
this
office.
B
It's
a
long
time
coming,
because
that's
going
to
help
us
to
empower
returning
citizens,
it's
going
to
help
us
to
capture
what
they're
really
looking
for
and
when
they
leave
out
at
our
office.
They
want
to
leave
out
with
hope
and
health
you
know,
and
and
they
want
to
feel
that
they
belong
in
their
communities.
Because,
finally,
I'll
say
what
you
brought
up
brother
warro
is
that
they
come
out
excited.
B
They
come
out
enthusiastic,
but
when
they,
when
they
out
here
for
a
few
24s,
they're,
probably
going
to
get
super
discouraged
very
quickly,
because
no
one's
they're
already
feeling
some
kind
of
way
rejected
from
society
and
their
loved
ones.
So
if
we,
if
we
can't,
show
them
love
and
support
when
they
come
home,
then
this
office
should
not
be
in
place
all
right.
I'll,
stop.
G
Hi,
my
name
is
rupert
saunders
and
excuse
me:
I'm
a
placement
specialist
for
orc,
it's
a
hard
job.
Why?
Because
you
have
so
many
employers
claiming
to
be
quarry
friendly
and
they're.
Not
one
of
the
things
that
orc
we're
not
going
to
do
is
set
our
clients
up
for
failure.
That's
most
important.
We've
established
relationships
with
employees
that
are
corey
friendly
and
you
know
that's
a
good
thing.
One
of
the
things
we
tell
our
clients
when
they
come
out
is
that
you
have
to
get
in
where
you
fit
in.
For
now.
G
This
is
a
temporary
process.
You
know
a
lot
of
times
when
you're
laying
up
there
in
prison
by
the
way
I'm
a
returning
citizen,
also
federal
and
state.
So
I
know
the
ropes.
I
know
how
to
go
at
some
point.
You
got
to
get
tired
of
being
sick
and
tired.
You
know
and
that's
what
we
catch
them
at
when
they
come
to
the
office
and
we
do
our
intake.
We
sit
them
down.
We
have
all
sorts
of
personalities,
we
got
the
rahz,
we
got
the
ones
that
you
know
want
to
intimidate
us.
G
It
doesn't
work
because
what
it
is
is
we
meet
them
where
they're
at.
If
I
got
to
go
back
to
the
hood
and
talk
to
you
to
get
you
back
up
here,
that's
where
we
go,
you
know,
and
they
understand
that
you
know,
because
you
can't
baby
them,
you
can't
pamper
them.
You
got
to
be
upfront
with
them.
You
got
to
be
serious
with
them.
They're
so
used
to
being
told
what
to
do
that
when
you
give
them
the
option
of
making
their
own
decisions,
they
start
thinking
about
things.
G
You
know,
and
we
start
off
with
it
with
a
mild
thing.
If
you
need
job
training,
we're
going
to
put
you
in
a
job
training
program.
If
you
want
a
job,
then
we're
going
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
what
kind
of
work
you
want
and
they
say.
Well,
I
ain't
got
no
resume
man.
I
ain't
never
really
worked.
Yes,
you
did
you
worked
in
prison,
that's
a
job,
an
employer!
Don't
look
at
how
much
you
made
at
the
last
job.
G
They
look
at
where
you
work
okay,
so
we
we
create
a
resume
for
them.
Some
of
them
been
down.
30
years,
but
they
worked
in
maintenance
in
shirley,
they
worked
in,
so
we
create
a
resume.
My
whole
my
whole
point
and
my
whole
goal
is
to
get
them
that
one
job
first.
Why?
Because,
once
I
get
you
that
one
job
on
the
top?
That's
where
it's
going
to
be
on
your
resume,
all
that
stuff
at
the
bottom.
Don't
even
count
you
know,
so
we
use
strategies.
G
You
got
to
use
some
kind
of
strategy,
we
even
get
them
a
seasonal
job.
Just
so
we
can
put
it
at
the
top.
You
know,
because
a
lot
of
times
ups
don't
care
where
you've
been.
They
just
wanted
to
hand
out
the
packages
and
all
that
you
know
we
got
to
make
all
sort
of
strategic
moves
to
help
our
clients.
You
know
most,
if
not
90,
of
our
clients
that
come
to
the
office
are
really
ready
to
get
back
into
society.
They
just
need
to
support.
G
You
know,
you
know
we
get
situations
where
I
don't
have
any
bus
fast.
I
I
don't
know
how
to
get
around.
So
we
got
to
try
to
finagle
that
we
got
to
try
to
figure
a
way
to
help
them
out
in
that
area.
Certain
areas
that
can't
go
in
because
of
past
history.
We
got
to
maneuver.
All
of
that.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
put
them
in
no
harm's
way
or
anything
and
that's
you
know
it's
a
challenge,
but
you
have
to
have
the
passion
for
working
with
returning
citizens.
G
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and
it's
evident
rupert
and
robert
just
from
hearing
y'all
talk
that,
like
you,
have
both
the
passion
and
the
love
and
that
you've
been
doing
it
with
not
a
lot
of
resources.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
the
words
that
you
share
with
us
so
far,
just
the
nuts
and
bolts
so
that
everybody
can
under
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
office
is
and
what
it
currently
looks
like.
So
we're
working
on
a
budget
of
about
330
000
right
now.
F
Currently,
currently,
there's
two
two
staff
people
with
an
opening
open
director
position
that
we
are
looking
to
post
now
that
we
have
a
new
chief
of
human
service.
I
think
a
part
of
this
also
is
that
the
office
of
returning
citizens
is
no
longer
going
to
be
under
the
office
of
public
safety.
Just
for
narrative
says
it.
F
Doesn't
it's
not
a
good
look
to
have
that
office
directly
attached
to
public
safety,
where
we're
already
trying
to
remove
a
stigma,
let's
not
add
an
added
stigma
to
it,
so
it's
gonna
be
moving
under
the
human
service
cabinet.
You
know
we
just
hired
a
new
chief,
so
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
then
we're
gonna
post,
a
director
position
and
it's
gonna
be
a
standalone
department
within
the
human
service
cabinet.
So
we
have
an
open
slot
director
position.
F
A
F
So
yeah,
so
a
portion
of
a
portion
of
the
stat,
the
salary
is
for
a
portion
of
the
budget
for
discussionary
spending.
I'm
just
got
to
give
you
estimates.
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers
in
front
of
me
right
now,
so
for
the
discretionary
spending,
and,
let
me
add
something
as
well
one
one
of
the
gaps
that
isn't
identified
is
a
housing
allotment,
so
that
is
some
of
the
portion
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
as
well.
F
That's
some
of
the
gap
that
we're
trying
to
trying
to
figure
out
and
that's
where
we
really
want
to
lean
in
with
the
council
to
figure
out.
What's
what
is
the
best
method
or
mold
for
that?
We
know
that
there
is
particular
housing
buckets
that
are
out
there.
So
the
question
is
whether
or
not
do
we
tap
into
some
of
these
existing
housing
buckets
to
establish
this.
Is
this
housing
for
returning
citizens,
or
are
we
going
to
add
this
to
the
orcs
budget
so
that
I
would
love
to
have
some
additional
conversation
around
that?
F
What
we
think
the
best
method
would
be
for
that
so
for
the
additional
staff
and
just
to
estimate.
I
believe
it's
about
700,
for
the
additional
staff
members
and
with
remaining
being
for
discretionary,
spend
spending
to
fill
the
gaps,
whether
it
be
around
some
of
the
id
information
paying
for
ids,
paying
for
other
essential
documentation
and
some
of
the
other
sort
of
obstacles
that
sometimes
come
confront.
Some
of
the
clients
that
were
working,
I
think
our
role
is
to
remove
as
many
obstacles
as
possible
to
to
create
that
smooth
transition.
A
Stipends
or
you
know
I
heard
robert
talking
about
and-
and
we
were
talking
about,
the
difficulty
in
in
employment
and
what
you
see
some
cities
doing
is
offering
that
employment
stipend
in
the
very
beginning
to
make
it
more
likely
that
an
employer
will
hire
that
person,
because
you
either
have
a
city
or
a
nonprofit
organization.
That's
willing
to
subsidize
the
first
few
months
of
that
employment,
and
we
have
organizations
here
that
do
that
work,
even
if
it's
not
with
the
returning
citizens.
Population
with
you
know.
A
It's
there's
an
organization
here
called
break
time
and
what
they
do
is
for
our
young
folks
transitioning
out
of
the
foster
care
system
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
They
provide
them
with
stipends
the
beginning
to
start
off
work
so
that
they
an
employer,
is
more
likely
to
take
a
chance
on
someone.
When
you
provide
that
initial
funding
so.
D
A
The
things
that
we're
supporting
and
hoping
to
get
with
more
discretionary
funding
so
that
we
can
do
those
partnerships
with
community
groups
and
also
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
make
it
easier
for
folks
to
accidentally
access
employment.
Absolutely,
I
was
wondering
doc,
dr
fox,
and
robert
and
ruben,
if
you'd
be
willing
to
talk
about
for
you
what
those
additional
employees
would
be
doing
in
in
the
office
of
returning
citizens.
But
I
think
you
spoke
to
those
five
additional
those
case
managers.
Are
they
peer
navigators?
Who
are
they.
F
So
I
think,
we're
still
in
the
process
of
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what's
going
to
be
the
best
fit
in
terms
of
what
the
need
to
we,
what
we
really
want
to
do.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
fitting
the
exact
need,
but
the
idea
is
that
to
have
three
individuals
working
in
the
case,
management,
sort
of
capacity
and
an
additional
to
working
in
a
resource
employment,
specialist
capacity,
but
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
so
again.
F
A
portion
of
the
individuals
will
be
going
into
some
of
these
life
facilities,
whether
it
be
in
the
south
bay
and
nashvilles
of
the
world,
but
also
to
the
department
of
corrections
and
in
the
state
system
ensuring
that
we
are
meeting
individuals
before
they
come
home
connecting
with
those
re-entry
specialists
that
are
behind
the
wall,
to
show
that
there's
a
smoother
transition.
So
friends,
we
have
an
individual
who's
coming
home
in
the
next
nine
months
that
might
be
in
a
minimum
security
at
pondville.
F
How
we
make
sure
that
we're
connecting
with
their
re-entry
specialists
so
once-
and
we
know
they're
coming
back
to
roxbury
or
dorchester-
ensuring
that
there
is
a
smooth
transition
from
pondville
to
the
orc
directly
to
resources
so
again,
and
also
to
a
point
that
the
robber
made
is
about
how?
How
are
we
assisting
and
aiding
the
whole
person?
So
the
mental
health
component,
and
recognizing
that
I
we
have?
F
F
We
are
removing
the
stigma
attached
to
to
sort
of
needing
some
additional
mental
health
support,
so
talking
about
having
somebody
either
on
staff,
or
is
that
are
we
contracting
out
to
ensure
that
we
have
those
resources
at
the
hands
of
our
clientele?
So
I
think
we
still
have
a
level
of
flexibility.
We
haven't
been
tied
in
directly
to
what
those
roles
will
be,
but
without
talking
about
this
case
management
and
then
on
this
referral
side
and
the
referral
side
can
deal
with
everything
from
some
of
those
mental
health
supports
and
some
additional
support.
So.
B
I
tried
to
take
on
that
role
many
times
of
helping,
because
I
just
love
helping
and
I
would
bite
off
more
than
I
can
chew,
but
it's
nothing
wrong
with
when
people
come
home
to
get
them.
Applications
filled
out
because,
simultaneously,
while
they're
building
their
resume
their
job
career
and
they're
rebuilding
their
lives
a
year
later
or
roughly
or
whoever
knows
how
what
kind
of
timeline
they
can
have
these
applications
and
by
that
time,
when
their
number
comes
up
for
an
apartment,
they've
got
an
employer
who
gives
them
a
good
good.
B
You
know
good
word,
they
have.
You
know
they
have
their
family,
they
have
people
from
the
community,
so
a
housing
specialist,
a
liaison
that
that
that
toggles
between
the
federal
and
the
state
in
the
house
as
a
correction
and
and
rupert
rufus,
is
I
get
this
two
names.
They
are
always
all
confused
because
they're
both
right
exactly,
but
we
have
to
have
somebody
who
is
communicating
with
people
inside
the
walls,
the
administrators
behind
the
wall,
because
it
is
an
inside
job.
B
We
have
so
many
people,
who've
done
so
much
work
on
themselves
through
the
restorative
justice
project
inside
the
prison.
So
when
they
come
out
they've
already
pretty
much
made
amends
they
they
worked
on
themselves.
They
they
they.
You
know
they
they're
ready
to
be
better
people.
So,
but
if
we
have
a
individual
who's,
you
know
communicating
with,
say
the
incredible
messengers
that
are
they
just
hired
roles
in
the
state
prison
system
or
the
federal
or
the
houses
of
correction.
B
That
way,
we
know
that
before
they
come
out,
it's
a
it's,
a
smoother
transition
and
finally,
peer
navigators
people
who
have
been
out
for
maybe
a
year
or
two
who
have
lived
the
experience
who
can
help
them
navigate
their
way
around
the
city
of
boston
because
they're
like
a
deer
in
headlights
when
they
come
out,
so
they
don't
know
their
way
around.
So
we
might
have
them
as
part-timers,
who
can
say,
hey,
let
take
them
and
show
them
around
and
help
them
feel
comfortable.
B
B
Is
money
for
mass
ids
money
for
bus
passes,
money
for
clothing
money
for
stipends,
and
I
loved
your
approach
with
the
employers,
who
would
hire
say
three
months
and
then,
hopefully
you
know
hire
permanently,
but
money
for
job
stipends
and-
and
you
know
just
to
have
just
to
have
that
in-house
discretionary
funds
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
back
bar
and
steal
as
a
city
office
from
you
know,
you
know
in
order
to
get
the
resources
that
they
really
need.
So.
A
Thank
you,
robert
I'm,
going
to
stop
talking
to
that.
My
colleagues
have
a
moment
to
speak,
but
I
love
what
you
all
mentioned
about
wholeness,
because
that's
what
this
work
is
about.
The
journey
walking
the
folks
alongside
walking
alongside
folks,
that
that
journey
to
wholeness
that
we
all
need
to
be
walking
on
right,
but
especially
for
folks
who
are
living
with
the
trauma
of
incarceration
and
experiencing
that.
We
had
hoped
that
more
members
of
the
administration
would
have
been
here,
because
this
is
not
just
a
work
that
have
worked.
A
That
happened
in
silos.
Right
bphc
needs
to
be
part
of
this
conversation.
The
office
of
housing
needs
to
be
part
of
this
conversation
right.
It's
not
just
work
in
the
office
of
recovery
office
of
returning
citizens,
it's
bphc
office
of
recovering
services,
office
of
housing,
because
all
of
us
need
to
own
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
here,
and
it
can't
just
happen.
We're
not.
We
don't
have
the
budget
for
it
all
to
happen
in
one
place.
A
So
you
know
it's
hard
week
because
of
school
vacation
week,
but
we're
hoping
that
the
administration
really
leans
in
to
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
to
help
out
folks
who
it's
you
know
often
too
easy
for
us
to
ignore.
So
I
want
to
just
mention
that
we've
been
joined
by
my
city,
council
colleague,
michael
flaherty,
so
hello
mike,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
something
or.
H
Just
briefly,
obviously
thank
you
for
sharing
and
for
for
hosting
and
sponsoring
it's
good
to
see
everybody.
One
of
the
striking
statistics
was
in
the
original
hearing
order
was
that
the
percentage
of
residents
being
served
by
the
office
of
returning
citizens
has
increased
by
more
than
700
percent
since
the
first
year
of
service.
That's
a
staggering
number
700,
so
obviously
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
current
budget
is
appropriate
to
handle
the
demand,
as
well
as
the
resources
that
the
gentleman
was
just
asking
for
and
also
you
know.
H
Obviously,
as
a
former
prosecutor
and
also
served
as
president
of
this
council,
we
created
a
standalone
committee
on
core
reform
and
we
led
efforts
and
most
recently
council
president
flynn
and
I
had
cheered
and
co-sponsored,
along
with
our
colleagues
a
hearing
on
that
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
making
good
on
our
word
to
those
folks
that
are
returning
and
make
sure
that
those
programs
are
there
for
them
and
and
that
they're
being
connected
to
to
the
resources.
And
so,
if
I
get
a
question,
I
guess
it
would
be.
H
Is
there
a
program
right
now
that
is
that
is
working,
or
there
are
a
couple
programs
that
are
working
like
someone,
that's
coming
out
of
the
house
of
correction
or
out
of
prison?
Is
there
a
program?
That's
that
someone
is
steering
them
to
hey
man.
You
got
to
check
out
this
program
this
made.
This
was
a
game
changer.
For
me,
I
was
able
to
get
my
life
back
on
track
with
employment
and
housing
and
health
care
and
training.
Is
there
a
program
that
currently
exists
that
people
rave
about
and
rally
around?
H
And
if
so,
how
do
we
emulate
that
duplicate?
That
across
the
city?
I
think
that's,
because
a
lot
of
this
is
sort
of
word
of
mouth.
You
know
someone
comes
out,
they've
got,
I
guess
they
got
two
options.
They
can
go
kind
of
go
back
to
go
back
down
the
road
they
were
on,
in
which
you
know
you
you've
seen
that
and
the
recidivism
rate
it's
like
a
spin
drive.
You
go
right
back
through
the
system
or
you
decide
to.
You
know,
take
a
kind
of
a
different
road
and
that
road
is
gonna.
H
H
But
I
guess
what's
what's
that
sort
of
one
if
there's
a
program
that
comes
off
the
top
of
your
tongue
right
now,
that
this
program
works
might
not
even
be
in
boston
or
suffolk
county,
it
could
be
out
in
western
mass
or
it
could
be
in
another
state.
But
I
want
to
sort
of
take
best
practices
and
I
want
to
implement
them
here,
particularly
that
we
have
a
700
increase.
So
clearly,
there's
a
demand
there
if
we're
missing
opportunities
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
I
can
tell
you
this
for
sure.
H
Every
single
day
there
is
a
ceo
moving
his
or
her
company
to
boston.
Why?
Because
we
have
the
best
colleges
and
universities
in
the
world.
We
have
the
best
hospitals
and
network
of
community
health
centers
financial
services,
life
sciences-
it's
all
happening
in,
in
addition
to
championship
sports
teams
right,
we
got
a
lot
of
mojo
going
on
right
now
in
boston.
People
want
to
be
here.
Companies
are
coming
here.
H
We
have
an
opportunity
to
train
the
workforce
for
those
companies
and
I'm
not
talking
about
and
I'm
speaking
as
a
former
teamster,
which
there
are
great
teamster
jobs.
Teamsters
need
drivers.
Great
wages,
great
benefits,
healthcare,
annuity
pension.
It's
all
there
walk
over
to
local
25
today,
I'll
bring
you
over
there
we'll
put
a
lot
of
people
to
work
because
the
demand,
but
when
you're
talking
about
the
jobs
here,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
those
good
paying
jobs
that
careers
are
going
to
folks
that
that
are
trained
and
ready
to
go.
H
And
if
we're
missing
the
boat,
then
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
get
that
right.
Because
again,
the
demand
is
there
on
on
the
on
the
employer
side
as
well.
So
how
do
we
connect
all
these
dots
and
and
if
there
is
a
program
that
currently
works,
then,
let's
you
know
whether
we
have
to
sort
of,
I
guess,
steal
the
idea
if
you
will-
or
we
have
to
create
our
own
program
that
models
that
so
again,
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
the
line
of
inquiry.
H
F
F
The
part
of
this
conversation
is
pulling
all
these
pieces
together
and
I
think
that's
where
we've
been
sort
of
lacking
in
the
level
of
coordination
of
services.
There
are
services
in
in
the
gallery
right
now
that
provide
that
fill
a
gap
that
right
now
the
city
of
boston,
doesn't
feel,
but
there
are
also
services
that
the
city
of
boston
provides
that
are
a
part
of
this
network
of
services
for
returning
citizens.
F
F
There
we
talk
about
returning
citizens,
we
talk
about
second
chances,
but
that
language
doesn't
come
from
it's
not
a
uniform
speech,
it's
not
a
uniform
fight.
I
know
some
of
us
been
fighting
on
the
ground
saying
we
give
millions
of
dollars
to
corporations
to
come
here
and
and
set
up
shop,
but
there's
no
incentives
to
hire
individuals
with
quarries.
There's
no
incentive
like
how
do
we
put
the
pressure
on
some
of
our
corporate
partners
and
say:
okay
you're
going
to
come
here.
F
We
need
to
make
sure
that
you're
hiring
a
certain
number
of
individuals
impacted
by
corey
directly.
How
do
we
write
that
in
like
these
are
some
of
the
fights
that
that
that
haven't
been
had
that?
I
think
we
need
to
really
lean
in
on,
because
to
your
point,
there
are
billion
billions
and
dollars
of
construction,
there's
a
billion
dollars
of
industries
that
are
moving
in
here,
but
we
haven't
put
the
pressure
on
them
to
do
anything
for
the
communities
in
which
we
serve.
So
we
would
love
to
be
a
part
of
those
conversations.
B
I
just
want
to
add
to
that,
is
that
you
asked
about
what
what's
working
one
of
the
partners
that
we
partner
with
is
mass
higher
and
mass
higher
has
a.
We
owe
a
workforce,
innovative
opportunity
act,
program
down
there,
that's
federal
funding
and
we've
gotten
many.
Many
many
and
rupert
can
speak
to
it
of
men.
B
I
don't
know
if
any
women
got
it,
but
they
got
their
cdls
and
they
absolutely
got
into
the
teamsters
union.
Absolutely,
but
you're
right
there
is
a
boston,
is
small.
Boston
is
resource
rich.
It
has
of
several
community
based
organizations
that
when
returning
citizens
come
home,
they
have
may
have
had
a
history
of
substance
abuse
and
they
may
need
a
a
different
kind
of
a
referral.
They
may
need
mental
health,
counseling
and
substance
abuse
counselors.
B
They
often
partner
with
the
gavin
foundation
and
get
atr
and
that's
a
wonderful
program,
I'm
in
long-term
recovery.
I
love
atr,
but
that's
for
that
individual
they
have
mass
hire.
They
have
community
work
services
that
we
help
people
get
their
industrial
commercial
cleaning
in
culinary
arts
through
kneecaps.
So
there
are
partners
that
we
partner
with,
but
we
meet
the
individual
where
they're
at
and
ask
them
what
do
they
want
to
do
and
again
it
could
be
a
temporary
job
and
but
until
they
can
figure
out
what
their
long-term
goals
are.
B
You
know
what
I
mean,
but
one
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
baltimore.
The
city
of
baltimore
has
a
program
called
turn
around
tuesdays
and
the
ceos
or
whoever
collaborated
they
got
together
and
and
and
got
john
hopkins
to
hire
hundreds
of
thousands
of
returning
citizens
and
a
gentleman
that
I
worked
with
bob
mara.
B
He
he's
a
retired
worked
in
the
health
care
field
and
he
wanted
to
get
mass
general
hospital
on
board
with
something
like
that,
and
that
would
be
a
great
great
approach
if
we
could
ever
begin
to
have
those
conversations
but
you're
absolutely
right.
What's
working,
there
are
different,
many
little
different
parts,
that's
working,
but
the
office
of
returning
citizens,
all
in
spite
of
having
just
two
staff.
B
We've
we've
made
a
pretty
good
reputation
for
ourselves
and,
although
we've
cut
kind
of
punched
in
the
mouth
here
and
there,
because
we
can't
be
all
things
to
all
people
and
we're
under
resources
and
underfunded.
But
once
I
feel
like
we
get
funded
and
resourced,
we
can
begin
to
build
up,
which
was
great
and.
F
We
should
be
careful
about
the
sort
of
saying
that
boston
is
resource
rich
too,
because
some
of
those
resources
don't
hit
the
people
who
need
them
the
most,
so
you
can
and
if
you're
not
eligible
or
there
isn't
a
intentionality
around
connecting
individuals
to
those
resources.
There's
no
point
in
having
resources.
If
I
a
I
don't
know
where
they
are
or
b,
I'm
not
even
eligible
to
get
to
them.
So
that's
some
of
the
sort
of
red
tape
that
we
have
to
get
through
as
well.
H
We
have
folks
that
are
in
separate
silos
and
who
are
not
working
together
or
competing
for
the
same
precious
resources,
so
everyone
kind
of
kind
of
will
stay
to
themselves
for
fear
of
maybe
yeah
losing
those
resources.
So
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job,
maybe
of
identifying
those
resources
and
making
sure
that
folks
are
communicating
with
one
another
and
case
in
point.
I
actually
still
have
my
my
cdl
in
case
someone
returning
citizen
wants
to
run
against
me
someday
and
puts
me
out
of
office
right.
H
I
could
go
back
and
drive
a
truck
as
a
teamster,
but
one
other
factor
is
just
for
employers
perspective,
because
we've
had
this
discussion
walking
through
the
ray
flynn,
marine
industrial
park
and
all
those
blue
collar
jobs.
One
of
the
main
concerns
from
the
employers
was
the
fear
of
someone
starting
there
and
then
immediately
going
out
on
on
comp
on
workers
comp.
There
was
a
program
I
think
that
existed.
Maybe
the
federal
government
or
the
state
gun
was
helping
to
maybe
offset
that
in
the
event
that
that
happened.
H
So
I
know
that
that
is
a
concern
from
employers
and
I'm
coming
at
it
from
someone
from
I
was
born
in
the
old
habit
projects.
It's
the
hustle
right.
You
come
out
and
you're
trying
to
do
good
and
you're
trying
to
make
things
better
and
you
get
a
job
and
you
don't
like
the
job
and
or
you
know,
because
you're
just
you
know,
that's
how
your
mind
works.
H
H
How
we,
how
we
eliminate
that-
or
we
offset
that
so
that
well-intentioned
folks
that
want
that
opportunity
want
to
get
the
training
want,
that
job
or
that
career
are
not
incumbent
by
the
person
that
might
have
came
before
them.
That
you
know
was
a
little
cute
and
got
a
little
slippery
and
want
to
kind
of
play.
The
game
play
the
system
a
little
bit
and
that's
in
that's
a
factor
here
that
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
at
least
identify
as
well
that
you
know
trying
in
the
effort.
F
To
try
to
hurt
people,
I
would
say
that
in
that
instance,
that
that
comes
back
to
the
city
and
us
having
conversations
with
employers,
saying
that
these
are
individuals
that
we
vetted
these
individuals
that
have
gone
through
a
training
process
who
who've
received
their
soft
skills.
And
we
want
to
dispel
that
narrative.
That
individuals
who
are
returning
citizens
or
individuals
who
are
impacted
by
corey
are
just
looking
for
a
next
come
up
now.
These
are
individuals
really
trying
to
change
the
trajectory
of
their
of
their
life
cycle.
F
So
if,
if
it
comes
to
us,
creating
certificates,
saying
that
this
individual
went
through
a
certain
amount
of
training-
and
we
vouch
for
these
individuals,
we
might
have
to
do
that
as
well,
because
a
large
part
of
of
the
gap
for
us
is
placement
and
ensuring
that
individuals
are
being
placed
in
positions
where
they
can
change
their
life
trajectory
and
have
a
real
career
opportunity
to
be
able
to
make
real
wages.
And
if
we
can
take
one
extra
step
with
again
creating
that
level
of
a
certificate
or
saying
that
we
vouch
for
these
individuals.
F
H
A
You,
council
clarity,
thank
you.
I
think
right
now
please
hold
tight.
We
are
going
to
go
to
some
online
testimonials
some
folks
who
are
some
advocates
who
have
to
leave.
So
we
have
on
zoom
leslie
credo
for
justice,
for
housing,
who
is
going
to
offer
testimony
about
some
of
the
housing
challenges
and
opportunities
for
formerly
incarcerated
individuals,
so
leslie
your
time.
A
And
while
that's
happening,
we
also
I'm
delighted
to
note
that
we
also
just
wanna
make
sure
that
this
is
right.
Yeah.
We
also
have
on
the
line
executive
director
for
the
mayor's
office
of
returning
citizen
affairs
from
dc
lamont
carey.
The
executive
director
here
to
you
know,
share
with
us
some
of
the
best
practices
their
office
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
really
great
work.
They've
seen
their
budget
really
substantially
increase
as
a
result
of
the
work
that
they've
been
doing.
A
I
I
I
I
So
23
children
came
out
of
dcf
care
back
to
their
rightful
parent,
because
one
of
the
requirements
for
dcf
is
stable
housing
and
when
you
come
out
of
prison
you,
nobody
has
money
for
housing
right.
Nobody
can
afford
the
the
rent,
and
so
this
pilot
program
created
that
that
avenue
for
those
parents
and
and
so
not
only
are
we
housing
individuals
we're
also
what
we
have
done
is
stabilize
individuals,
increase
public
safety,
provided
a
avenue
for
individuals
to
take
a
breath
and
find
a
meaningful
job.
I
What
we
have
done
is
motivated
people
to
stay
clean
right,
substance,
abuse,
mental
health.
When
you
have
a
subsidy
voucher,
you
don't
want
to
lose
that
right
and
also
we
put
we
where
we
provided
a
way
to
decrease
probation
violations,
parole
violations
a
another
another
way
for
people
to
want
to
hold
on
to
their
lifestyle
one
whole
hold
on
to
their
livelihood.
I
So
housing
individuals
with
subsidy
vouchers
also
motivates
them
to
to
live
trans
transgression,
free
and
drug-free.
So
these
are
some
of
the
solutions
that
we
have
created
since
we
inceptioned
we
have.
We
have
housed
36,
formerly
incarcerated
individuals
and
reunited
23
children
with
their
parents.
Those
are
the
statistics
that
we
can
show.
We
can
prove,
but
the
problem
is:
the
city
keeps
funding
the
same
agencies
and
this
gentleman
just
said
he's
looking
for
a
program
that
works.
This
program
works.
I
We
have
an
outside
evaluator
from
brigham
and
women's
hospital
who
has
been
monitoring.
We
have
partnerships
with
with
ester
healthcare
where
they
get
their
mental
health
substance
abuse,
and
we
have
a
partnership
with
the
city
of
boston
where
they
get
credit,
repair
and
credit
building,
because
it's
18
month
program
and
after
they
finish
this,
their
their
18
months
program,
we're
going
to
transform
them
into
home
ownership
and
provide
them
means
to
purchase
their
own
home.
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
statement
where
you
know
you
could
steal
our
program
or
you
can
mimic
our
program.
That
is
the
problem.
You
know
us
grassroots
organizations,
we
have
the
answers,
we're
directly
affected
and
we
know
what
we're
doing,
but
these
state
agencies
they
come
in
with
all
their
wealth
and
their
money
and
they
don't
want
to
fund
us,
but
they
want
to
steal
our
ideas
and,
and
so
that
right
there
is,
is
why
I
copyrighted
everything
that
I
did
so
I
have
solutions.
I
I
last
I
saw
an
ad
the
other
day
that
the
mayor
funded
38
million
to
the
same
housing
agencies
from
last
year,
and
I
get
phone
calls
every
day
from
individuals
who
are
referred
by
those
same
agencies
that
were
funded
they're,
sending
their
clients
to
me
and
and
and
it
just
doesn't,
it's
just
absurd
that
you
know
they're
funded
and
we're
not,
but
we're
housing,
people
and
we're,
and
we
have
impact
we're
making
an
impact.
We
also
partner
with
harvard
university.
I
A
Thank
you
leslie.
I
know
you're
on
a
time
crunch,
so
I
appreciate
you.
I
know
that
I
I
have
questions
and
folks
have
questions,
but
I
want
to
respect
your
time.
I
saw
you
holding
up
the
far
from
home
report,
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
all
my
colleagues
get
a
copy
of
that.
Speaking
of
colleagues
want
to
acknowledge
that
president
of
the
city
council,
counselor,
ed
flynn,
is
here
and
has
joined
us.
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
And
so
we
have
to
do
a
lot
better
job
of
being
in
deep,
deep
partnership
with
community
and
really
trusting
folks
who
have
lived
that
experience
and
experienced
that
of
pain,
of
incarceration
the
trauma
of
that
to
really
lead
the
way.
So
that's
why
I'm
incredibly
excited
about
the
work
that
you're
doing
the
absence
that
you've
been
doing
around
the
state
and
in
the
city
of
boston.
So
I
thank
you,
but
this
is
a
really
great
opportunity
of
something
that's
working
and
how
we
can
work
together
to
make
it
to
make
it
even
stronger.
A
J
I'm
sorry
I
had
the
mic
on
we're.
Actually
the
mayor's
office
on
returning
citizens
affairs,
I
loved
a
lot
of
the
presentations
that
I
heard
so
far,
so
some
of
what
what
morka
does
in
dc,
one
of
the
things
when
individuals
get
released,
some
of
the
main
things
that
they
need,
as
we
know,
is
the
birth
certificate
and
social
security
card.
J
J
J
J
For
themselves,
and
in
our
belief,
is
that
we
can
get
them
connected
to
opportunities
that
they're
interested
in
not
opportunities
that
traditionally
return
as
citizens
have
been
steered
in
the
direction
of,
and
for
us
that
have
been
in
construction
that
had
been
retail,
but
a
lot
of
returning
citizens
came
home
and
they
want
to
do
computer
programming
or
t.
So
we
connected
with
organizations
that
can
provide
that
they
want
to
get
their
cdl
license.
J
So
the
want
of
the
assessment
is
as
equally
important
as
what
the
needs
are,
because
if
we
can
instill
the
hope
in
the
individuals
that
way
when
we
connect
them
to
employment,
that
they
don't
just
last
at
the
job
for
a
few
days
or
a
few
paychecks,
because
it's
in
line
with
what
they
want
for
themselves.
The
prime
example
I
could
use
if
an
individual
is
interested
in
opening
the
car
lot.
J
J
So
once
an
individual
sees
our
case,
managers
determine
what
the
needs
and
the
wants
are.
We
will
connect
them,
whether
it's
behavioral
health
substance
abuse,
department
of
aging,
lgbtq
veterans,
depending
on
what
the
need
is.
We
know
what
kind
of
organizations
or
sister
agencies
we
need
to
connect
them
with,
but
if
it's
education,
employment
or
job
training,
we
also
have
a
bucket
of
that
is
the
workforce
development
team
that
will
sit
with
them.
J
How
that
creates
an
opportunity
for
them
to
get
into
some
of
these
apprenticeship
programs
or,
and
these
other
accredited
kind
of
programs
that
will
lead
to
the
career
jobs
that
they're
in
search
of
so
our
workforce
development
team
helped
them
get
connected
to
education,
training
opportunities
as
well
as
import
employment
opportunities.
So
our
team
is
actively
in
the
community
building
relationships
with
employers,
but
also
within
dc
government.
We
have
a
lot
of
returning
citizens
that
are
inside
of
bc
government.
J
J
So
any
referral
that
isn't
completed
we
see
that
as
a
whole
in
their
re-entry
plan.
So
none
of
what
we
do
would
be
successful
without
extensive
partnerships
with
other
government
agencies,
non-profit
and
for-profit
entities.
In
this
way,
when
we
connect
to
an
individual,
we
can
kind
of
align
them
with
the
exact
thing
that
they
need
in
order
for
them
to
be
successful
and
housing.
J
So
housing,
vital
records
and
employment
are
the
main
three
buckets
of
things
that
individuals
are
in
search
of
when
they
come
here.
What
I
don't
like
is
that,
if
individuals
get
released
and
goes
into
a
shelter
that
switches
their
focus,
they're
not
focused
on
what
many
of
them
are
not
focused
on
reentry
related
opportunities,
because
they're
trying
to
get
out
the
shelter,
get
something
to
eat
and
get
back
to
the
shelter
in
time
to
have
a
bed.
J
But
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
provide
all
of
the
programming
all
of
the
resources,
because
then
we
become
competitors
to
the
entities
that
exist
in
our
community
that
can
serve
our
constituents,
and
so
our
focus
is
how
we
build
a
strong
relationship
with
quality
programs
to
be
able
to
provide
connect
our
clients
to
the
services
that
they
need.
Then
I
think,
lastly,
what
I
would
say
some
of
the
in-house
programs
that
we
initiated
that
works
for
us.
J
We
have
a
partnership
that
allows
us
to
provide
what
is
called
promise
rise
and
promise
rise.
Allows
us
to
provide
free
cab
rides
for
returning
citizens.
Five
rides
a
week
to
reentry
relay
to
services.
Now
what
is
re-entry
related
services
opportunities?
That
could
be
anything.
It
can
be
an
individual
trying
to
connect
to
get
to
his
children
so
that
he
could
build
the
bonds,
the
family
reunification.
So
we
see
that
as
reentry
related
opportunities,
as
well
as
going
out
for
job
interviews
and
so
forth.
J
Another
program
that
we
implement
is
called
the
gift
of
giving
I
mean
the
gift
of
reading,
because
we
know
the
majority
of
our
clients
are
returning
to
communities
that
are
underserved
that
have
higher
literacy
rates,
but
in
prison.
Our
population
tend
to
read
a
whole
lot
of
books,
and
so
we
want
to
remind
them
that
of
their
enjoyment
of
reading,
but
also
give
that
gift
to
the
children
or
the
young
people
in
their
life.
J
So
one
can
help
build
bonds
between
them
and
cause
the
person
that
return
a
citizen
to
widen
the
world
for
them
that
will
introduce
those
children
to
opportunities.
But
the
main
goal
for
everything
that
we
do
is
want
to
provide
a
real
second
chance
for
returning
citizens
and
to
increase
public
safety,
and
it's
just
our
thinking
that
if
we
can
connect
returning
citizens
to
resources
that
we
can
decrease
public
increase
public
safety,
but
also
give
them
the
tools
to
start
businesses.
J
So
we
have
entrepreneurship
programs
that
we
connect
out
our
staff.
I
mean
our
client
base
too.
We
do
a
whole
lot
of
financial
literacy.
We
do
things
on
know
your
rights,
and
one
of
our
main
partners
is
department
of
human
human
rights.
So
the
department
of
human
rights
enforces
the
barriers
that
we
remove.
That
includes
ban
the
box
on
job
applications
where
an
employer
can't
have
it
on
the
job
application.
J
They
can't
ask
them,
have
they
been
convicted
of
a
crime
during
the
interview,
this
also
covers
housing
when
an
individual
applies
for
an
apartment
or
rent
a
house
to
try
to
get
a
home.
That
can't
be
a
part
of
the
discussion
as
well
as
occupational
licenses.
That
cannot
be
a
part
of
discussion
unless
it's
closely
related
to
the
crime
that
they
were
in,
but
then
they
have
an
opportunity
to
go
before
present
their
case
on
why
they
should
be
given
this
license.
J
So
we
work
tirelessly
to
provide
opportunities
for
returning
citizens,
and
I
think
what
makes
us
unique
in
a
way
is
that
I'm,
a
returning
citizen,
I'm
also
a
cabinet
member
in
the
mayor's
office.
So
I
directly
advise
as
the
mayor
and
advocate
for
returning
citizens
on
what
barriers
that
exist
for
them
and
what
needs
to
be
removed,
and
so
because
of
my
position
because
my
access
to
the
mayor,
we
have
removed
several
barriers.
J
But
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
created
opportunities
where
we
have
this
funding
now,
where
returning
citizens
that
move
into
a
home
with
a
family
member.
Some
funding
can
go
towards
that
household
to
help
stabilize
that
housing
for
a
little
while
longer.
Another
program
that
we're
implementing
through
a
partnership
is
giving
returning
citizens
chromebooks,
because
technology
is
one
of
the
biggest
barriers.
So
we're
doing
things
like
that
to
enable
returning
citizens
to
be
successful,
but
one
of
the
main
keys
is
that
the
focus
is
on
what
it
is
that
they
want
to
do.
A
I
think
that
is
one
really
great
way
that
we
can
help
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
my
if
you
can
and
stay
on
just
in
case
anyone
has
any
questions
as
we
think
about
what
dc
is
doing
and
comparing
it
to
work.
We're
doing
here,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
to
my
council
colleagues,
starting
with
council
orrell.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
either
our
administration
or
or
director
kerry,
now's
the
time.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
to
the
panelists
amazing
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
on.
You
know
such
a
small
budget
and
I'm
advocating
to
get
you
guys
the
resources
dr
faulk,
you
mentioned,
who
is
deserving
of
a
second
chance
right,
that
we
have
to
do
more
community
work
around
that
is
there
a
certain
population
that
is
more
less
likely
that
we
see
in
our
community.
That's
being
deserving
of
that.
Second
chance.
C
Can
you
rephrase
that,
like
within
within
our
return
citizens,
you're
saying
well
what
I'm
hearing
is
there
might
be
some
population
within
whether
it's
a
crime
that
they
committed
and
like,
if
there's
certain
populations
within
that
return
of
citizens
that
are
less
likely
to
get
some
of
these
opportunities.
These
resources
and
this
assistance
absolutely.
F
So
in
in
the
city
of
boston,
we
recognize
that
disproportionately
black
people
in
general
and
by
black
I'm
using
the
macro
sense.
I
don't
care
if
you
speak
spanish
or
free
french
korea,
I'm
I'm
going
to
define
you
as
black
already
have
systemic
barriers,
and
then
you
add
an
additional
barrier
to
that
around
cory
or
being
labeled
as
returning
citizens.
That
just
puts
you
further
behind
the
eight
balls.
F
So
we're
talking
about
narrative,
that's
some
of
the
narrative
I'm
talking
about,
because
you
can
be
simply
grow
up
in
these
neighborhoods.
You
can
grow
up
on
humboldt
and
have
and
be
viewed
in
a
certain
way.
So
imagine
also
being
somebody
already
are
already
stigmatized
by
a
large
society,
but
then
have
to
carry
a
corey
with
you,
then
that
just
doubles
and
makes
sure
your
sort
of
travels
that
much
more
difficult.
F
C
You
for
that,
and
then,
mr
turner,
you
were
answering
the
question
around
what
programs
work
and
this
question
is
for
everyone
is
there.
I
know
we
mentioned
cdl.
Is
there
any
other
careers
that
we
see?
You
know
returning
citizens
kind
of
excelling?
I
know
a
few
that
that
are
some
great
cooks.
You
know
a
few
that
are
some
great
mechanics,
but
is
there
any
or
those
any
any
other
careers
that
goes
through.
B
Well,
there's
a
combination
and
meeting
people
where
they're
at
sitting
down
having
to
individualize
case
management
session
with
them
I've
heard
anywhere
from
they
practice
barbara.
They
want
to
become
a
barber
while
they're
in
rather
incarcerated
a
lot
of
times.
They
want
to
become
a
licensed
drug
abuse
counselor
because
they
have
had
issues
with
substance
abuse
themselves.
So
I've
referred
them
to
the
old
dr
shades
program
at
umass
boston,
which
is
the
asap
program,
addictions
counseling
program
they
want
to
become
they
want
to
be.
B
They
want
to
go
back
to
school
and
get
their
bachelor's
degrees
in
liberal
arts.
They
want
to,
you,
know,
get
into
the
computers
they
want
to.
You
know
it's
a
combination,
yeah
and
again
I
loved
the
brother
lamont's
spiel,
because
you
know
empowering
people,
because
when
they
incarcerated
for
a
long
period
of
time,
they've
had
plenty
of
time
to
think
about
what
they
want
to
do
or
what
they
want
to
be
for
lack
of
a
better
way
of
saying
it.
B
When
I
grow
up
right,
so
there
are
people
who
come
out
and
they
have
these
goals
and
dreams.
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
you
know
I
cannot
answer
that
in
in
one
sentence,
because
you
have
to
have
that
individual
conversation
with
people
and
to
try
to
help
them
get
on
their
path
is,
I
think,
is
the
key
and
a
goal.
F
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
they
have
access
to
whatever
opportunity
that
they
want
to
do
so.
If
somebody
wants
to
come
on
be
an
entrepreneur,
we
have
resources
within
this
building
that
can
help
facilitate
that
opportunity.
Somebody
who
wants
to
get
their
cdl
because
they
want
to
be
a
plow
driver.
We
have
resources
within
the
city
that
can
help
folks
do
this.
I
think
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
opening
up
the
the
full
utility
box
and
saying
okay.
This
is
what
you
want
to
go
to.
F
We
have
some
some
resources
within
the
city.
We
also
have
some
external
partners
outside
the
city
who
can
help
you
get
to
that
point
as
well,
so,
whatever
area
or
or
sort
of
passion
for
a
career
that
they
want
to
lead,
we
need
to
be
able
to
support
folks
in
that
space
and
open
and
open
up
as
many
opportunities
as
possible.
Awesome
and.
C
C
Okay,
that's
all
I'm
saying
something.
This
is
more
of
an
operational
question
and
700
increasing
your
your
case.
Low
by
700
is
a
lot.
Is
there
a
certain
software
case
management
crm
that
you
guys
are
using
and
also
for
lamont
kerry?
You
know,
can
you
talked
about
what
what
software
you're
using
to
track
all
the
return
of
citizens.
J
So
currently
we
use
salesforce
but
we're
looking
at.
I
don't
know
why.
I
just
slipped
my
mind
some
other
software,
where
we
can
communicate
with
other
agencies,
but
currently
we
use
salesforce
to
track
how
many
people
we
see
the
demographics
of
them
and
so
forth
and
into
your
previous
question
on
the
kind
of
employment
that
returned
to
citizens.
J
I
know
at
least
what,
in
our
earlier
personal
trainers,
real
estate
and
a
whole
lot
of
entrepreneurship,
and
so
we
different
agencies
in
the
gov
government
are
providing
entrepreneurship
programming
now
and
providing
a
little
bit
of
funding
for
returning
citizens
to
start
their
business.
We've
been
having
like
pitch
contests,
but
one
of
the
gentlemen
mentioned
giving
back.
So
we
have
a
lot.
J
The
credible
messengers
generally
work
with
juveniles
and
their
individuals
who
previously
incarcerated,
have
changed
their
life
in
providing
guidance
to
the
juveniles,
and
we
have
violence
interrupters,
who
are
inside
of
the
community,
stopping
fumes
and
connecting
individuals
to
opportunities,
so
we're
giving
returning
citizens
that
opportunity,
through
training
to
be
mentors
and
guides
and
navigators
to
help
not
only
returning
citizens
but
juveniles,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
that
taking
place.
Now.
E
Sure,
thanks
so
much
to
the
panel,
and
definitely,
I
think,
definitely
heard
loud
and
clear
the
message,
particularly
about
housing
and
what
a
challenge
that
is.
I
know
that
for
me,
when
I
last
went
and
talked
on
a
zoom
with
the
office
of
returning
citizens.
Folks,
your
guys's
focus
group.
It
was
all
housing.
I
know
that
you
know
talking
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum
talking
to
our
sore
caseworkers.
E
So
just
but
with
all
that
in
mind,
I
just
wonder
if,
if
there's
any
more
texture
that
you
guys
can
give
to
sort
of
like
what
the
nature
of
the
housing
problems
are,
I
think,
maybe
for
a
moment
bracketing
just
selfishly,
because
I
worked
at
the
housing
authority,
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
the
like,
with
some
with
the
kind
of
deep
challenges
around
public
housing
and
the
federal
housing
laws.
And
all
of
that-
and
I
know
that
was
alluded
to
earlier
by
justice
for
housing.
E
F
So
to
your
point,
it's
everything
from
having
enough
funds
to
to
secure
a
private
rental
in
terms
of
having
the
security
the
first
and
last
that
that's
the
task.
Individuals
who
aren't
returning
citizens
so
let
alone
for
individual
schools
and
employment
options,
don't
provide
a
real
wage.
So
that's
an
issue,
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
innovative
again
recognize
that
individuals
are
going
to
be
at
different
points
in
their
lives.
F
So
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
a
sort
of
all-encompassing
approach
where
we're
trying
to
be
as
innovative
as
possible
recognize
that
different
individuals
going
to
be
at
different
different
points
and
places,
and
that
we
also
need
to
bring
in
some
of
our
regional
partners
as
well,
because
to
to
be
frank,
some
of
some
individuals
who
are
really
trying
to
change
their
lives.
They
can't
they
can't
do
it.
F
B
And
meanwhile,
at
the
same
time,
when
the
office
first
opened,
I
was
trying
to
help
help
them
to
the
best
of
my
ability
fill
out.
You
know,
housing
works,
applications,
bha
applications,
how
home
start.
You
know
any
way
possible
to
get
on
waiting
lists
because,
in
spite
of
it,
they're
still
going
to
be
on
a
waiting
list.
B
The
goal,
hopefully
was
to
be
able
to
try
to
get
them
a
housing
voucher
at
some
point
but
as
as
dr
falk
alluded
to,
there
are
other
approaches,
and
that
is
like
the
cardinals
maderos
program
at
the
ymca
two-year
transitional
model.
They
don't
pay
rent,
they
they
have
an
estimate,
they
save
their
money
and
it
goes
into
an
escrow
account.
The
gym
is
there:
they
work
out
there.
They
they
live
there.
B
Obviously
they
have
some
rules
and
guidelines
to
follow
we're,
trying
to
re-establish
relationships
with
the
cardinals
maduro's
program
and
in
boston
we're
trying
to
establish
relationship
with
the
chelsea
y
in
chelsea,
because
the
feds
had
some
partnership
with
them
over
there
because
time,
the
acronym
for
time
things
I
must
earn
and
and
me
being
a
returning
citizen.
It
took
about
two
three
four
years
before
I
even
got
my
first
apartment.
B
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
I'm
just
saying
that
anyone
who's
coming
out
of
the
penitentiary
today
is
not
going
to
get
immediate
housing
anyway,
but
there
should
be
a
trajectory
and
a
way
to
get
them
on
in
the
pipeline
to
get
them
on
the
track
to
get
housing.
And
I
love
the
brother
laurent's
approach
about
the
band
of
ops,
our
former
governor
deval,
patrick,
the
first
cory
reform
bill.
You
know
to
ban
the
box
where
that
should
not
be
in
the
conversation
for
employee
employment.
B
That
should
not
be
in
the
conversation
for
housing.
It's
what
housing
is
a
very,
very
challenging
challenging
thing
for
returning
citizens,
but
right
as
we
speak,
I'm
getting
people
into
sober
housing,
and
I
thank
god
for
that,
because
it's
a
safe,
sober
environment
through
the
mass
certified
housing,
and
I
wish
it
was
longer
than
eight
weeks
funding.
But
you
know
I'm
only
one
person
thank.
A
J
And
if
I
could,
I
could
pick
it
back,
so
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
in
the
district
one.
When
my
office
looking
at
trying
to
house
return
to
citizens,
we
remove
just
looking
for
houses
and
for
returning
citizens.
We
have
returning
citizens
that
are
seniors
disabilities,
like
every
government
agency
that
exists
in
the
district,
that
the
return
of
returning
citizens
may
fit
into
several
different
categories,
and
this
could
give
them
access
to
housing
for
senior
housing
or
lgbtq
housing.
J
And
so
we
look
at
outside
of
the
tag
of
returning
citizen
and
that
opens
up
a
variety
of
additional
housing
that
we
could
potentially
give
people.
Access
to.
Another
thing
is
that
our
parole
probation,
which
is
called
c
sosa,
they
are
engaged
in
the
re-entry
process
and
they
even
pay
for
housing
to
place
people
in
housing,
and
we
we
currently
do
have.
J
One
of
the
agencies
have
housing
that
allows
for
individuals
that
have
to
get
out
of
town
because
it
may
not
be
safe
for
them
to
remove
into
another
state
like
boston
and
the
last
thing
that
we're
pushing
for
because
there
may
never
be
enough
housing
for
returning
citizens.
So
what
we're
encouraging
organizations
to
do
or
create
its
family
reunification
programs,
and
that
is
for
three
reasons
one.
J
Because
right
now
our
office
focused
only
on
the
individual.
But
again,
as
I
mentioned,
most
of
our
people
are
returning
to
underserved
communities.
So
we
try
to
encourage
organizations
to
create
family
unification
support
groups
so
that
we
can
help
connect
those
families
to
these
other
resources.
That's
going
to
benefit
them
so
that
the
whole
household
will
be
moving
forward,
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
we're
looking
at
housing
hasn't
completely
solved
all
of
our
problems.
But
we
do
have
churches
and
other
organizations
that
are
now
interested
in
the
family
reunification.
J
Support
groups,
that's
good
and
the
last
thing
with
that,
and
that
also
is
going
to
help
us
with
our
individuals
before
they
come
home,
because
one
of
the
things
that
stressed
to
them
is
that
the
family
should
expect
a
return
on
their
investment.
If
they
know
that
it,
the
individual
doesn't
have
a
high
school
diploma
or
skill
set
and
if
they
can
encourage
them
to
get
there
while
they're
incarcerated.
J
E
Great
thanks
so
much
and
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
to
partnering
with
you
all
in
the
housing
front
and
thinking
about
how
we
can
integrate
it
with
some
of
the
programs
being
proposed
on
the
american
rescue
plan
side.
I
just
want
to
apologize
for
the
fact
off
to
go
in
a
moment,
but
I'm
going
to
be
watching.
I'm
sure
we
have
some
testimony
coming,
so
I
will
catch
it
if
I
miss
it
in
person,
but
thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
council,
black
and
that's
very
important,
come
from
her
because
she
chairs
the
kubernetes
recovery
committee
and
the
opera
money.
So
we
do
want
to
see
a
lot
of
that
money
going
to
supporting
our
folks
transitioning
home,
finding
housing.
So
thank
you,
council
bach.
I
wanted
to
turn
to
counselor
council
president
flynn.
If
you
had
anything
you
wanted
to
say
or
questions
you
wanted
to
ask.
K
So
maybe
that
should
be
a
top
priority
for
us
here
on
the
council,
so
listening
and
first
up.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
apologize
for
for
being
late.
Thank
you,
dr
faulk,
and
appreciate
the
tremendous
work
you're
doing.
I
was
listening
to
the
gentleman
from
from
washington
talking
about
cab
vouchers
for
returning
citizens.
I
was
a.
K
I
was
a
probation
officer
for
eight
years
prior
to
becoming
the
city
city
council
at
superior
court,
and
my
my
probationers
couldn't
get
from
their
home
to
suffolk
superior
court
on
the
mbta,
and
I
would
say
what
do
you
mean
you
can't
get
there?
It's
only
it's
only
a
dollar
eighty
or
something
a
dollar
fifty
on
the
mbta,
but
returning
citizens
probation.
Is
they
didn't
have
that
two
dollars?
K
F
So
that
that's
a
part
of
the
budget
that
we're
asking
for
to
be
able
to
handle
and
be
able
to
provide
some
for
that
with
that
discretionary
fund
to
be
able
to
sort
of
close
some
of
those
obstacles.
That
currently,
is
this.
Currently,
it's
not
something
that
we're
able
to
do
unless
it's
digging
in
our
own
pocket,
so
moving
forward
we're
trying
to
alleviate
that
as
as
being
an
issue.
K
Thank
you
doctor
and
appreciate
that,
and
I
know
you
only
have
two
people
on
your
team
and
you
guys
do
an
outstanding
job,
have
great
respect
for
the
work
you're
doing,
but
a
budget
is
a
reflection
of
our
values.
So
as
as
a
council-
and
I
know
the
mayor
as
well-
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
the
office
is
fully
funded
with
more
staff,
but
that
should
be
a
priority
of
ours
to
make
sure
that
every
returning
citizen
has
at
least
at
least
a
charlie
card.
K
You
know
having
access
to
the
mbta
to
get
your
birth
certificate
is,
is
a
challenge
my
probationism
they
were
coming
out
of
out
of
incarceration,
had
to
go
to
city
hall
and
they
couldn't
get
there.
They
needed
to
get
their
birth
certificate
so
that
they
couldn't
get
an
id
yeah
and
then
counselor,
warrell
and
council
lieu
jen.
I
think
you
guys
had
it
perfect
and
you're
hearing
those
probation
supervision
fees.
K
F
I
would
say
the
biggest
gap
is
the
housing
piece,
the
housing
piece
and
us
figuring
out,
exactly
sort
of
where
that
should
should
live.
I'm
I'm
of
the
mind
that
it
shouldn't
live
with
the
orc,
but
there
should
be
an
orc
focus
in
terms
of
returning
citizens
in
terms
of
individuals
impacted
by
corey
and
saying
that
we
want
to
designate
listening
to
miss
credo,
speak
about
the
vouchers
and
and
that
she
was
able
to
receive
for
the
bha.
F
That's
something
that
should
be
at
the
very
least
should
exist
within
city
hall,
with
some
of
our
returning
citizens
that
we
that
we
had
coming
through
our
offices
so
there's
ways
in
which
we
can
piecemeal
in
the
short
term,
to
try
to
get
to
250
500
beds,
but
then
have
a
long-term
vision
of
saying.
We
want
to
build
and
establish
housing
specific
for
this
population.
I
think
that's
the
fight
that
we
should
be
fighting
because
without
stable
housing
I
don't
care
how
good
your
additional
program.
K
K
They
fill
out
the
quarry
and
they
get
the
job
based
on
the
cory.
Coming
back,
fine,
so
they're
in
the
job,
maybe
a
week,
maybe
maybe
two
weeks
and
they're
excellent,
excellent
employees.
They
show
up
on
time
they
they
they
work,
hard,
they're,
professional
and
then
the
boss
will
say
to
them.
After
two
weeks
we
know
you're
an
outstanding
employee
yeah,
but
we're
letting
you
go
because
of
you
because
of
your
corey
yeah.
But
but
but
my
question
is
what
is
the
city
of
boston
doing
for
returning
citizens
around
corey
around
corey?
K
So
if
you
have
a
quarry,
you
want
to
apply
for
a
city.
Job
does
boston,
follow
the
same,
the
same
commitment
to
help
returning
citizens
that
that
we
should
be
upholding.
Are
we
doing
our
part
in
terms
of
hiring
and
making
sure
that
cory
is
not
a
is
not
something
that
stays
with
someone
the
whole
time
yeah?
So
what
do
you?
What.
F
The
short
answer
is
that
we
could
be
doing
more.
We,
I
think,
if
we
want
to
be
a
leader
in
this
space,
we
should
be
a
leader
in
this
space
right
now.
I'm
thinking
offhand.
We
have
an
initiative
out
of
the
office
of
workforce
development
in
partnership
with
orc
called
project
opportunity,
and
that
initiative
helps
individuals
with
with
impacted
by
career,
to
get
their
corey
sealed
and
expunged.
F
We're
actually
doing
something
during
re-entry
week
to
provide
we're
doing
some
job
training
for
individuals
impacted
by
corey.
It's
in
partnership
with
mass
higher,
in
partnership
with
lawyers
clearinghouse
to
provide
free,
corey
clinics,
but
to
be
frank,
counselor
we
we,
we
can
always
do
more
and
we
need
a
a
greater
commitment,
not
only
from
city
hall
but
from
some
of
our
employers
throughout
the
city
who
could
easily
if
they
wanted
to
hire
50
individuals
to
say.
F
Okay,
we
want
to
hold
50
slots
for
these
individuals,
we're
not
just
talking
about
just
entry
level
position,
I'm
from
a
real
real
wage
position
where
individuals
can
be
able
to
afford
to
not
only
live
but
thrive
in
the
city.
So
short
answer
is
we're
not
doing
enough,
but
we
can
always
do
more
with
a
more
collective
effort
and
vision
around
saying
this
is
a
priority
for
us.
K
Well
well,
thank
you
doctor
and
thank
you
thank
you,
robert
for
the
the
work
you're
doing
and
the
gentleman
from
washington
dc,
and
I
got
to
say
hello
to
this
gentleman
yeah
this
this
young
fellow.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
great
work
everyone's
doing.
But
again,
a
budget
is
a
reflection
of
our
values.
K
Boston
has
two
full-time
staffers
and
returning
citizens
and
the
gentleman
from
dc
that
office
is
13..
I
was
reading.
I
was
reading
the
notes
here,
13
in
boston,
pretty
much
as
the
same
population
as
as
washington,
roughly
what
fifty
seven
hundred
thousand
people
so
well
anyway,
just
wanna
say
thank
you
to
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
work
you're
doing
and
and
to
council.
Well
we're
all
as
well.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
president
flynn.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
panel.
I
think
administration
thank
director
kerry
for
being
here.
You
know
when
we
started
this
out
for
me,
it
was
about
all
right.
We
need
to
be
meeting
meeting
people's
basic
needs,
that's
what
the
role
of
government
that's,
what
we
should
be
doing
right.
People
need
housing,
they
need
health
care,
they
need
food,
and
so,
when
I
was
thinking
about
this
hearing,
it
was
around
all
right.
A
Let's
talk,
what
are
the
basic
needs,
so
I
met
with
you
all
with
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
in
the
gallery,
and
we
talked
about
basic
things
like
access
to
ids.
We
talked
about
housing
and
we
talked
about
health,
particularly
mental
health,
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
more
that
we
can
talk
about.
There
are
a
lot
that
even
those
three
topics
right
we
could.
We
could
have
this
just
on
housing
for
those
who
were
just
as
involved
formerly
incarcerated.
We
could
we
could
just
talk
about
that,
so
we
realized.
A
I
want
to
stress
again
that
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
the
conversation
we
will
be
holding
the
administration
accountable
to
making
sure
that
we
are
responding
to
the
needs
of
our
communities
right,
our
returning
citizens,
our
members
of
our
communities,
they're
our
neighbors
they're,
our
brothers
they're,
our
sisters
and
we've
got
to
show
up
for
them
because
they're
living
with
trauma,
and
we
want
to
make.
We
want
to
help
everyone
get
the
wholeness
by
meeting
their
basic
needs.
So
thank
you
for
being
here,
and
you
know.
A
We
hope
that
you
stick
around
for
the
conversation.
We
have
a
another
panel
coming
up
of
advocates
who
have
been
waiting
for
their
moment
to
speak.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
joined
by
the
great
tanya
fernandez
innocent
from
district
7
representing
roxbury.
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
If
we
could
have
our
panel
of
advocates
come
down
and
to
see
to
the
seats
and
testify,
you'll
also
be
welcome
to
sit
here.
We
have
jamal
gooding
from
people
affecting
community
change
global.
We
have
denise
watson
from
crossroads:
counseling
joseph
bennett
from
yard
time
entertainment
chris
conway
out
for
good
and
donnell
wright
from
inner
visions,
empowerment
center,
talking
about
these
issues
of
mental
health,
access
to
housing
and
ids
everyone's
going
to
have
about
five
minutes
to
testify,
and
then
my
colleagues
will
be
will
ask
questions.
A
L
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
members
of
the
council.
My
name
is
jamal
gooding.
I
am
a
member
of
the
gbio
committee
working
on
this
reentry
issue.
Gbio
is
an
organization
within
boston,
the
greater
boston
interface
organization
that
is
comprised
of
over
61
organizations
that
is
comprised
of
community
members
pastors
rabbis
and
just
community
members.
L
I
also
am
the
a
returning
citizen.
I
am
also
the
executive
director
and
founder
of
pac
people
affecting
community
change,
and
I
want
to
just
kind
of
preface
that
and
say,
even
though
our
organization
is
in
brockton
massachusetts,
it
operates
throughout
the
south
shore
and
very
much
within
the
boston
rim.
L
So
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
today.
I
had
the
opportunity,
the
distinct
opportunity
to
be
on
a
panel
call
with
mayor
wu
as
a
candidate,
and
we
had
an
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
office
of
returning
citizens
and
during
that
call
it
was
I
myself
who
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
the
mayor
to.
L
We
was
pleased
we
was
elated.
It
was
an
opportunity
for
those
of
us
who
are
on
the
ground
to
finally
say
that
the
orc
would
get
the
resources
that
it
needed
in
order
to
get
some
kind
of.
I
guess
grasp
around
this.
This
issue,
I'm
hearing
today
that
that
budget
of
1.9
that
commitment
that
the
mayor
gave
is
now
gone
down,
and
I
am
here
today
to
ask
you
to
beg
you
to
look
at
that
from
the
perspective
of
we
are
already
fighting
an
uphill
battle.
L
Giving
an
individual
a
job
does
not
solve
the
problem
because
it's
most
likely
not
a
living
wage
and
part
of
the
connection
between
pac
people
affected.
Community
chains,
brockton
and
boston
is
because
the
majority
of
men
and
women
who
are
returning
to
boston
either
because
of
corey
cannot
get
into
living
quarters
or
the
rent
is
too
high.
L
So
when
you
get
out-
and
I
pick
you
up
at
the
door-
and
you
start
working
tomorrow-
because
we
got
you
your
id
and
I
put
you
into
a
room-
and
you
know
in
order
to
get
into
an
apartment,
you
have
to
do
all
that.
You
need
to
do
including
giving
back
there's
a
higher
level
of
certainty
that
people
are
going
to
follow
those
rules,
and
so,
when
they
transition
from
one
house
to
the
next
house
into
their
own.
L
L
We
don't
sleep
because
interacting
with
an
individual
coming
home
doesn't
go
from
nine
to
five
when
they
get
into
an
argument
with
their
girlfriend,
because
they
thought
that's
where
they
wanted
to
go
first
day
and
now
you're
talking
about
all
kinds
of
situations,
and
they
need
someone
to
talk
to
the
one
who
picked
them
up.
Who
got
him
an
id
who
put
money
in
their
pocket
who
gave
him
transportation
who
gave
him
a
place
to
leave?
Is
the
one
they're
most
likely
gonna
call
to
try
to
figure
that
out.
L
L
L
L
Much
like
the
gentleman
from
dc
had
said
if
everyone
who
is
coming
back
to
boston
goes
through
the
office
of
returning
citizens
and
the
office
of
returning
citizens
know
that
y'all
time
entertainment
knows
that
crossroads
knows
that
pack
knows
that
we're
the
ones
that's
on
the
ground.
You
can
pick
up.
You
call
me
today
you're
going
into
a
house
today
and
if
they
don't
go
into
the
house,
then
that
means
that
my
child,
your
child
and
everybody
else's
child
is
in
jeopardy,
because
if
they
got
released
without
an
id,
they
can't
even
cash
their
check.
L
They
can't
even
get
any
food
and
it
leads
them
back
to
a
place
of
desperation.
So
I
beg
you
please
if
nothing
else,
the
1.9
million
dollars
that
the
mayor
committed
to.
I
know
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
at
least
start
us
right
there,
but
that
1.9
million
dollars
was
a
direct
relation
to
the
dc
model,
and
that's
why
we
was
given
it
and
you've
seen
what
they're
able
to
do.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
A
M
M
The
services
that
are
led
by
the
folks
who
are
closest
to
the
pain,
the
buy
us
for
us
services,
the
community
closest
to
the
pain,
should
be
provided.
The
access
in
the
tools
to
assist
with
this
solution,
as
someone
who
knows
pain,
impacted
by
trauma
and
witnessing
violence
at
a
young
age,
experienced
teenage
pregnancy,
the
loss
of
many
friends
and
family
members.
M
M
There
was
no
one
door
that
could
understand
where
to
begin
with
me
time
still
have
not
changed,
but
we
have
an
opportunity
to
make
change
from
age.
19
to
I
was
28.
I
was
in
and
out
of
courthouses
summoned
to
multiple
interventions
that
stemmed
from
incarceration
to
probation,
parole
fees,
probation
fees,
fines
and
maybe
parenting
groups.
M
M
M
M
The
orc
can
be
positioned
to
disperse
grants
and
contracts
to
community-based
and
grassroot
organizations
to
provide
services.
The
services
that
we
know
do
not
exist
and
cannot
be
housed
in
the
orc.
The
services
that
I
believe,
robert
and
rupert
and
rufus
spoke
to.
We
fall
through
the
cracks
right
like
we're.
Talking
about
mental
health.
We're
talking
about
substance
abuse
supports.
If
we're
going
to
address
in
combat
the
recidivism
rate.
We
have
to
start
with.
The
reason
why
folks
are
in
going
in
and
out
of
prisons
is
unaddressed.
M
Mental
health
unaddressed,
substance
abuse
and
we
cannot
rely
on
the
wait
list
right.
We
cannot
rely
on
the
referrals.
We
send
a
referral
to
whittier
street
not
to
call
out
names,
but
we're
referring
folks
to
these
systems
that
leslie
credo
also
mentioned
are
getting
funded
year
after
year
after
year,
but
these
services
do
not
reach
our
community.
I
know
this
firsthand
because
before
I
was
doing
the
work,
I
was
the
work.
M
I
was
the
reason
why
the
work
needed
to
be
amplified
mobilized,
while
we
needed
to
talk
about
revamping
an
ecosystem
that
not
just
talked
about
re-entry
as
a
as
a
whole,
but
this
is
this
is
no
cookie
cut.
You
have
young
women,
you
have
young
men,
we're
now
talking
about
servicing
the
youth
okay.
If
we
went
from
300
000
to
1.28
and
now
we're
including
youth
and
we're
not
talking
about
homeless
or
excuse
me,
housing
or
combating
substance
abuse
in
mental
health,
then
we're
still
not
even
there
we're
still
not
even
there.
M
M
There's,
not
one
program
that
can
work
when
we
look
at
re-entry.
I
want
us
to
adopt
the
model
that
we
take
when
we
look
at
homelessness
when
we
look
at
what
we
did
down
on
methadone
mile,
we
all
said
hold
on
this
is
not
good
for
us.
This
is
not
good
for
our
children.
How
can
we
get
this
and
take
this
and
move
this
somewhere
else?
Let's
come
together
collectively,
like
we
did
around
that,
like
we
do
around
medic
medical
and
health
care
for
elderly
re-entry
deserves
that
same
exact
attention
wrap
around
services.
M
We
all
need
to
be
underneath
an
umbrella
where
we're
having
these
conversations,
so
the
donaises
don't
have
to
go
through
this
door
and
that
door
and
tell
her
story
over
and
over
again
to
be
shamed
and
not
be
serviced,
so
there's
so
much
that
needs
to
happen
from
1.28
to
1.9
that
this
is
just
the
beginning.
So
I
appreciate
this
time
and
thank
you.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you,
rosie.
Thank
you.
A
N
D
N
I
was
going
to
start
with
the
notion
of
that
was
written,
but
I'm
gonna
give
you
my
personal
story.
So
the
reason
why
mental
health
affects
me
is
because
you
know
there
was
trauma
in
1989
that
was
done
to
me
and
my
family,
so
it
was
never
addressed
and
it
only
continued
up
until
you
know
april
23
1998,
when
I
was
sentenced
to
life
in
prison
for
murder,
I
didn't
commit.
N
I
had
no
date,
so
I
had
no
reason
to
believe
that
I
was
coming
back
out
here,
but
I
knew
I
had
a
chance
to
come
back
out
here
and
I
knew
once
I
walked
out.
There
would
be
people
helping
me.
That's
what
I
thought
when
I
got
out
there
was
no
help.
I
called
the
office
of
returning
citizens.
They
couldn't
help,
they
didn't
have
it.
He
did
offer
me
a
charlie
card,
though
I
refused
it.
You
know,
but
in
the
process
of
knowing
what
was
going
on,
I
decided
to
start.
N
N
You
know
I
deal
with
some
of
the
most
known
ex-gang
members,
that
probably
out
of
the
business
now
and
out
of
my
generation.
This
brother
comes
to
mind
my
meetings.
Also,
you
know
and
they're
all
returning
citizens
and
they're
all
having
the
same
problems.
Some
of
them
are
just
walking
out
of
the
jails.
N
If
I
can
help
you
I'm
going
to
help
you
if
I
know
someone
that
can
help
you,
I'm
going
to
steer
you
to
that
person,
but
if
we
don't
have
the
help,
how
are
we
supposed
to
help
these
people?
I
am
the
grassroots
I
am
on
the
streets.
I
am
going
places
where
some
of
these
people
can't
go.
I'm
in
neighborhoods,
where
some
of
these
people
can't
go.
I
deal
with
some
of
the
people
that
people
are
scared
to
deal
with.
N
N
A
O
O
O
I
returned
to
school,
obtained
the
necessary
credentials
and
started
the
organization
out
of
the
passion
that
when
people
come
home
from
incarceration,
they
need
the
services.
I
myself
came
home
and
couldn't
find
those
services
I
remember,
being
released
from
shirley
medium
in
2001
with
a
plastic
bag.
They
gave
me
a
check
and
sent
me
on
my
way.
I
was
left
to
find
the
services
that
I
needed
on
my
own.
O
O
Sometimes
it
only
takes
just
giving
that
person
an
opportunity
which
someone
gave
me.
I
walked
into
an
organization
getting
out
of
jail,
but
I
was
in
school.
I
was
going
to
cambridge
college
for
my
substance.
Abuse
license
and
an
organization
gave
me
an
opportunity,
and
that
organization
was
pyramid
builders,
counseling
services.
O
They
gave
me
an
opportunity
to
put
my
life
back
on
track,
but
I
really
believe
that
re-entry
services
start
inside
the
judicial
system
inside
these
jails
prisons.
I
believe
that
a
person
should
be
afforded
the
opportunity
inside
a
department
of
corrections
or
a
place
like
south
bay,
to
get
their
life
back
on
track.
That's
what
started
with
me.
My
last
incarceration
was
at
south
bay
and
they
had
a
program
in
there.
It
was
called
one
two
one
and
one
to
one
was
a
re-entry
program
that
helped
people
learn.
O
O
I
noticed
I
noticed
in
my
quest
for
change
as
a
returning
citizen.
The
first
thing
I
needed
to
address
first
and
foremost,
was
my
mental
health
and
substance
abuse,
because
you
know
we
can
give
these
returning
citizens
all
these
opportunities
and
jobs,
and
things
like
that
housing,
but
if
they
don't
have
their
mental
health
addressed
or
their
subject,
issues
addressed,
then
the
housing
that
we
give
them
only
going
to
turn
into
trap
houses
and
the
jobs
that
we're
going
to
give
them.
O
As
I
started
to
search
for
these
services,
two
words
kept
coming
up
waiting
lists
now.
Counselors
these
two
words
can
mean
life
or
death.
For
someone
coming
home,
like
myself,
there
are
returning
citizens
getting
out
of
prison
or
jail
that
have
a
great
desire
and
willingness
to
do
this
necessary
work
to
become
productive
members
of
society.
O
O
A
P
P
P
P
I
understand
the
importance
of
giving
back
to
the
young
people
who
are
hopeless,
because
I
know
what
it
feels
like
to
be
hopeless
when
nobody
believes
in
you
when
nobody
is
willing
to
give
you
a
chance
counselor.
I
was
one
of
those
individuals
who
did
my
time
when
the
honorable
judge
facto
sentenced
me
on
my
birthday
in
2006.
P
P
Well,
I
did
everything
the
judge
instructed
me
to
do.
I
went
into
that
prison.
I
turned
my
life
around.
I
became
a
leader
and
an
example
for
other
inmates.
I
started
and
ran
programs
inviting
clergy
and
other
members
from
the
boston,
political
establishment
and
they
came
into
the
prison
by
me
and
my
cohorts.
Writing
them
letters
and
they
talked
to
the
inmates
about
personal
and
social
responsibility.
P
When
I
got
out
of
prison
after
doing
my
seven
years,
I
also
was
disillusioned
about
the
help
that
would
be
available.
I
thought
I
would
get
help
when
I
got
out.
I
thought
wrong
because
when
I
left
my
incarceration,
I
didn't
have
an
id
and
I
didn't
have
a
driver's
license.
Why?
Because
I
owed
all
those
fees
that
you
mentioned
earlier,
I
owed
victim
witness
fee.
I
owed
license
reinstatement
fee,
I
owed
so
many
fees,
but
I
didn't
have
no
money.
P
So
when
I
got
out,
I
needed
a
job
because
I
was
on
parole
and
probation.
They
also
wanted
money.
They
wanted
probation
fees,
they
wanted
parole
fees,
so
that
meant
I
had
to
get
a
job.
How
am
I
going
to
get
a
job?
I
don't
have
an
id.
How
am
I
going
to
get
an
id?
I
don't
have
the
money
to
get
a
job,
so
I
found
myself
caught
in
these
cats
22s.
But
yet
here
I
am
an
individual
graduate
with
honors
from
boston
university.
P
I
have
a
real
estate
license.
I
have
a
class
b
commercial
truck
driver's
license,
I'm
certified
in
environmental
health
and
safety
asbestos
removal
contracting,
but
I
couldn't
get
a
job
when
I
finally
landed
a
job
with
stereocycle.
They
hired
me
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
with
a
start
date.
They
were
gonna
fly
me
out
to
langley.
I
believe
it
was
in
texas,
then,
out
to
atlanta
georgia
for
training
three
weeks
I
started
going
to
a
trucking
school.
They
sent
me
to
trucking
school,
they
paid
for
everything.
P
I
started
letting
people
know
the
difficulties
and
the
challenges
I
was
having
trying
to
reintegrate
back
into
society.
No
one
cared
and
society
thought
it
was
me
it
wasn't
me
it's
our
society,
that's
the
problem.
It's
the
system,
that's
the
problem,
it's
not
the
individual
all
the
time,
because
I
know
individuals
that
get
out
and
they
try
and
they
try
and
they
fail
because
the
system
set
up
for
you
to
fail
right.
P
They
looked
at
each
other
and
said,
what's
really
going
on
here
and
that's
when
charlie
baker
stood
up
him
and
made
it
mayor,
marty
walsh
and
he
said
we're
going
to
give
you
a
job
today,
mr
right
and
they
did,
they
gave
me
a
job
working
for
the
state
and
that
was
eight
years
ago
and
I'm
still
in
that
job.
Today
we
do
recover
and
we
do
change,
but
you
can't
get
something
out
of
nothing.
P
Some
of
us
need
that
investment.
Yes,
they're
going
to
be
failures.
Yes,
they're
going
to
people
who
are
not
going
to
do
the
right
thing.
Those
are
the
ones
that
you're
going
to
see
in
the
news.
You're
not
going
to
see
the
success
stories
like
me.
Unless
we
create
our
own
avenue,
we
create
our
own
media
to
let
people
know
there
are
people
out
here
who
have
been
to
prison.
They
are
in
prominent
positions.
P
We
have
started
our
own
businesses,
some
of
us
work
for
state
and
local
government,
and
we
have
not
recidivated.
But
you
don't
hear
those
stories
we're
here
to
tell
you
that
there
are
organizations
out
here
like
mine,
like
many
of
these
individuals
out
here
all
across
this
state
and
we're
willing
to
unify
and
work
synergistically,
because
that's
what
it
takes.
No
one
organization
can
solve
these
problems,
the
office
of
returning
citizens.
We
need
that
1.9
million
dollars
and
we
need
at
least
600
000
of
it
to
go
to
community
grants.
P
Why,
for
them
the
office
of
returning
citizens
to
do
those
assessments,
so
you
can
assess
where
a
person
is
at
mentally
physically,
spiritually,
economically
and
then
they
can
in
turn,
send
and
recommend
these
individuals
to
the
organizations
that
are
best
able
and
suited
to
help
them.
That's
how
you
effectively
use
money.
P
We
want
to
use
this
money
effectively,
not
wasted.
We
know
how
to
do
that.
We
know
how
to
reach
these
individuals,
so
I'm
asking
you
here
today
to
understand
that
the
community
grants
are
for
community
organizations
to
make
sure
that
these
individuals
are
followed
up
on
with
their
needs
to
make
sure
that
those
assessments
are
being
followed
through
and
that
that
money
is
not
wasted,
because
not
one
organization
can
do
it
all.
Thank
you
very
much
for
listening.
A
C
First
and
foremost,
this
is
probably
my
first
term
on
the
council,
one
of
the
most
powerful
panels
I
have
seen
here
at
city
hall.
So
thank
you
all
for
sharing
for
all
the
great
work
that
you
are
doing
and
continue
to
do
in
our
neighborhoods,
because
it's
not
just
a
dollar
amount,
as
I
can't
remember
who
said
it,
but
it's
about
people
right,
it's
about
people
and
then
it's
also
about
the
health
of
our
community
at
the
end
of
the
day.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
just
want
to
echo
what
my
colleague
counselor
were
all
mentioned
in
his
his
comments,
but
this
was
this
was
an
informative
hearing
panel
in
it
really
said
to
us
that
everybody
deserves
a
second,
a
third
chance,
our
re
returning
citizens.
If
we're,
if
we're
serious
about
providing
assistance
and
providing
hope
and
opportunity
for
returning
citizens,
well,
it
costs
money
and
1.9
million
dollars
doesn't
seem
like
it's
a
lot
of
money.
In
my
opinion,
it
seems
it
seems
reasonable
to
me.
K
So
I
certainly
stand
here
with
my
colleagues
in
support
of
that
1.9
million
dollar
figure
for
office
of
returning
citizens
and
I've
referenced.
In
my
comments
earlier,
the
the
city
of
the
the
city
of
washington
dc,
the
population
similar
to
boston,
has
13
full-time
staff
on
their
returning
citizen
office.
K
I
don't
I
don't
know
what
the
what
the
budget
is,
but
but
we
have
to
give
our
returning
citizens
an
opportunity
to
come
back
into
society
and
to
engage
in
society.
They
want
the
same
thing
that
we
want
as
a
is
a
good
job,
good
health
care
and
try
to
be
a
productive
member
of
society
and
re-establish
relationships
with
their
family
and
community.
K
K
A
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
holding
his
hearing
and
to
my
counselor
brian
rowell
as
well.
Of
course,
this
is
extremely
important
and
affect
impact
us
all
in
our
communities.
I
think
you
know
when
I,
when
you
think
about
issues
with
incarceration
or
thereafter
returning
citizens.
I
think
it's
it's
one
that
is
stigmatized,
obviously
to
your
points
today
that
is
stigmatized
to
a
degree
where,
unless
it
affects
you,
unless
it
hits
your
back
door,
then
you're
not
interested.
Q
Because,
let's
be
honest,
like
the
heroin
epidemic,
when
it
began
to
affect
our
counterparts,
our
white
counterparts,
then
the
issue
became
more
sensitive.
Then
we
talked
about
harm
reduction.
We
began
to
look
at
implementation
of
wraparound
services
in
a
different
way
and
to
my
brother
chris
on
the
panel
brother,
joseph,
that
I
know
all
too
well.
We
used
to
work
together
in
behavioral
health
field.
Q
You
can
attest
to
this,
and
you
know
that
there
aren't
enough
supports
and
wraparound
as
we
know,
it
is
not
actually
implemented
and
to
the
sister
that
was
speaking,
you're
absolutely
correct,
wrap
around
services
in
these
rinky-dink
clinics
in
our
community
don't
actually
reach
us
and
they
don't.
They
are
ineffective.
Q
Q
It's
a
very
lonely
place
to
be
in,
but
politics
in
itself
is
entering
the
alliance
den
and
it's
a
very
transactional
culture,
and
so
we
are
doing
our
best
to
figure
out
how
to
bring
these
issues
in
the
chamber.
While
we
give
you
our
thank
yous,
but
what
we're
not
telling
you
is
that
we
feel
your
pain.
We
hear
you
and
we're
working
for
you
and
on
your
side
we
look
for
forward
to
further
collaborate,
but
we
need
your
support
when
that
budget
hearing
comes
up,
we
need
you
to
speak
up.
Q
We
need
the
advocates
to
go
to
every
single
counselor,
irrespective
of
their
demographics,
and
push
them
and
say
we
understand.
This
may
not
benefit
your
leverage
to
advance
your
political
agenda
or
resume,
but
we
really
need
you
to
vote
this
way
and
irrespective
of
how
depraved
black
people
have
become
in
boston
and
racist
boston,
we
need
to
be
able
to
be
brave
and
fight
and
keep
pushing
forward.
I
appreciate
you
accommodating
my
ranting,
but
obviously
this
is
from
the
heart.
A
Thank
you,
counselor,
fernando
anderson,
I'm
glad
you
were
able
to
make
the
hearing,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
even
know
if
there's,
if
I
have
anything,
I
need
to
say
after
that,
I
just
you
know
just
to
contextualize
some
of
the
work
that
we
want
to
do
and
to
continue
to
push
this
issue,
which
is,
is
a
hard
issue
to
get
folks
to
buy
in
and
and
think
about
and
see
like
why
it's
important.
Well,
our
residents
are
important,
our
job.
You
know
the
folks
who
are
elected.
A
The
folks
you
see
here
is
to
think
about
those
who
are
too
easy
to
forget.
You
know
who
we
want
to
forget
and
we
don't
want
to
see
our
own
sins
reflected
in
other
people's
trauma,
and
so
our
work
is
to
do
that,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
the
conversation
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
around
ids,
with
the
department
of
corrections
right
that
we're
gonna
that's
outside
of
my
jurisdiction,
but
I
am
happy
to
step
out
right
like
don't
confine
me
to
just
a
city,
we
have
work
to
do
to
get.
A
A
I
had
initial
conversations
with,
and
I
you
know,
unfortunately,
other
members
of
the
administration
could
be
here
today,
but
boston,
public
health
authority,
boston,
public
health,
commission,
very
much
interested
in
integrating
services,
and
I
was
like
hold
up.
There
are
community
groups
out
there
that
are
already
doing
the
work,
so
we
gotta
we
gotta
talk
about
what
the
model
looks
like
right.
We
don't
need
to
reinvent
wheels.
We
just
need
to
make
systems
work
and
and
to
bring
that
synergy.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I
I
guess.
A
If
I
had
one
question
and
I'm
not
gonna,
you
know
there's
still
folks
waiting
to
testify
and
we're
running
late,
but
just
what
would
that
synergy?
Look
like
to
you
for
folks
returning
home
in
terms
of
accessing
mental
health
between
you
know:
grassroots
organizations,
orc,
boston,
public
health,
commission.
What
would
that
look
like.
M
You
want
to
take
a
shot
at
it,
so
if
I'm
understanding
your
question,
it
would
look
like
creating
a
system
like
a
hub
right.
I
think
I
talked
to
you
about
this,
creating
a
hub
where
the
boston,
public
health,
commission,
the
orc
grassroot
organizations,
workforce
development,
other
departments
that
need
to
have
a
hand
in
this
we're
in
conversation
we're
having
wrap-around
conversations.
M
M
N
N
You
know
and
and
that's
the
thing
it's
built
on
trust
when
these
guys
are
coming
home-
they're
not
talking
to
no
one
inside
the
prison
and
they
dang
sure
and
going
come
back
out
here
and
start
talking
to
someone
that
don't
know
them,
and
they
don't
know
that
person.
So
when
I
create
that
mental
health
group
we
always
in
jail
when
we
sat
in
a
group,
it
was
for
two
and
a
half
days
good
time,
this
ain't
for
good
time.
It's
for
the
rest
of
our
lives.
N
A
C
A
A
A
R
Thank
you
councilwoman,
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
Thank
you
for
this
very
important
hearing.
I'll,
be
brief.
I've
sat
here
from
the
beginning
of
the
hearing
until
now,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
to
all
the
city
councillors,
including
my
own
city,
councilwoman,
anderson
for
staying
in
here
and
and
councilman
flynn
wanna.
Also
uplift
leslie
credo
want
to
uplift
donis
watson,
who
are
women
like
myself,
who
are
formerly
incarcerated.
R
Women
go
to
prison.
Also,
the
majority
of
us
are
the
primary
caretakers
of
our
children
prior
to
us
being
incarcerated
in
cages,
and
when
we
come
home,
one
of
the
first
things
we
do
is
ask:
where
are
our
children
and
how
are
we
going
to
find
them?
Housing
has
been
a
big
issue.
We
can't
get
our
children
back
in
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts
without
appropriate
housing,
so
this
is
really
a
a
significant
issue
for
us.
I
want
to
just
lift
up
name
the
title
we've
heard
about
a
lot
about
the
office
of
returning
citizens.
R
R
I
want
to
just
mention
the
name
of
this
hearing,
as
you
know,
is
an
order
for
a
hearing
on
the
civil
rights
and
liberties
of
returning
citizens
and
re-entry
into
their
boston
communities.
It
does
not
say
to
raise
a
budget
just
for
the
office
of
returning
citizens,
although
I
am
happy
that
there
is
an
increase
being
contemplated
for
that
body.
I
also
want
to,
though,
emphasize
what
this
entire
body
of
formerly
incarcerated.
People
have
said
that
more
needs
to
happen
in
terms
of
flexible
budgeting.
R
We
were
on
the
ground
door,
knocking
to
make
sure
that
our
residents
in
district
7,
the
lowest
funded
historically
district
in
the
city
of
boston.
That
also
is
the
corridor
of
the
most
incarcerated
corridor.
In
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts,
we
have
just
lost
three
young
black
men
to
gun
violence
last
week
alone
and
other
than
the
gang
unit.
R
I
want
to
just
get
us
out
of
the
mindset
of
the
level
of
austerity
that
this
city
has
subjected
black
people
to
for
generations
and
mayors
after
mayors,
after
mayors,
the
level
of
racism
and
austerity
in
our
communities
and
care
for
our
people
that
our
councilwoman
has
just
cited
to
the
racism
intentional,
because,
as
rep
as
councilman
flynn
noted,
the
reflection
of
the
city's
priorities
is
its
budget,
and
I
will
close
with
this
very
important.
We
have
to
get
ourselves
out
of
this
mindset
of
austerity
in
investment.
R
R
Million
dollars
so
respectfully,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
have
this
first
hearing.
We
have
a
long
way
to
go.
A
hundred
and
ninety
million
dollars
reflects
the
priority
of
the
city
of
boston
in
the
most
incarcerated
corridor
made
up
of
my
community
that
I
have
lived
in
for
five
generations
off
of
humboldt
avenue
where
we
have
just
lost
three
young
black
men
again
last
week.
R
It's
an
outrage
if
we
have
to
get
a
budget
that
is
set
to
being
able
to
be
distributed
equitably,
not
through
the
office
of
re-enter
returning
citizens
through
another
community-led
entity
that
can
fairly
and
equitably
distribute
money
and
we've
got
to
be
matched
like
a
gang
unit
is
matched
in
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars.
That's
what
we
deserve.
R
R
A
Thank
you
very
much,
andrea.
I
appreciate
all
the
work
you
do
and
the
work
that
family
treasures
healing
is
doing.
This
is
just
the
beginning
and
we'll
be
in
this
fight
for
the
long
haul.
You
see
your
city
counselors
and
we
care
about
this
issue.
Anyone
else
here
in
person
for
all
the
testimony,
pastor,
hobbs.
S
S
I
love
that
gbio
is
here
and
the
advocacy
that
they're
doing,
but
I
think
with
the
faith
community
as
we
talked
about
even
heart
transformation
as
we
talk
about
doing
resources
again
with
even
coalitions
around
faith-based
entities
in
partnership
with
all
of
these
kinds
of
things.
Because
again
we
talk
about
wrap
around.
If
there's
not
heart
transformation,
then
we
just
give
resources.
That's
really
not
good!
So
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
this.
S
I
look
forward
to
continue
conversations
because
again,
a
lot
of
us
have
been
doing
work,
there's
a
state
of
emergency
line
item
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
I
believe
that
is
still
intact.
I
hope
so
that
healing
our
land
advocated
for
years
of
the
state
of
emergency
healing
and
empowerment
movement,
that
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
talking
about.
So
we've
got
several
different
administrations
that
that
line
item
has
not
done
what
it
was
ever
intended
to
do.
S
That
came
through
years
of
a
quarterly
community
reform
process
via
the
underserved
inclusive
of
our
returning
citizens.
So
again
not
reinventing
the
wheel.
We've
got
a
lot
of
organizations
that
are
doing
some
great
work,
and
I
just
look
forward
to
the
continuing
conversations
about
how
we
can
really
really
really
really
have
this
aggressive.
S
I
call
it
a
state
of
emergency
healing
and
empowering
movement
that
will
have
economic
engines
that
can
be
sustained,
like
this
should
be
seed
money
for
economic
engines
that
will
sustain
these
pro,
be
self-sustaining.
Right,
like
just
quickly
an
example
that
for
to
with
the
housing
or
the
land
stock,
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
use
that
land
to
have
returning
citizens
trained
with
livable
wages
to
participate
in
this
building
boom.
S
S
A
T
T
T
T
I
wear
a
bracelet
that
I
received
when
I
first
was
able
to
return
to
mass
in
person,
and
it
reads
in
latin
and
in
english
begin
again,
it's
a
very
personal
and
powerful
phrase
for
me,
because
that
is
just
what
is
expected
of
all
returning
citizens.
Yet
without
adequate
resources,
funding
and
orc
staffing.
T
How
are
we
to
begin
again?
You
are
severely
handicapping
the
3
000
returning
citizens.
I
understand
a
release
of
the
boston
area
annually
without
these
funds
counselors
do
the
math,
and
I
implore
you
to
do
the
right
thing:
honor,
the
budget,
extra
1.5,
1.9
million
commitment,
so
that
we
can
realistically
have
a
shot
to
succeed
at
beginning
again.
A
A
F
D
A
U
U
For
the
last
25
years,
I've
been
visiting
two
lifers
in
prison
friends
of
mine
and
for
the
last
10
years
I've
been
doing
re-entry
work
for
cambridge
health
alliance.
I
do
that
now
at
the
bill,
rickett
jail,
I'm
a
re-entry
case
manager
and
I'm
currently
part
of
the
greater
boston,
re-entry
task
force,
which
includes
jamal
and
leslie
cradle
jamal
gooding,
and
we're
going
to
have
two
re-entry
fairs,
one
in
brockton
on
saturday
and
one
in
boston
and
dorchester
next
month
and
a
re-entry
summit
in
june.
U
I'd
want
to
say
it's
the
most
rewarding
work,
I've
ever
done
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
rewarding
work
working
with
robert
turner
included
and
people.
I
just
mentioned
jamal
and
leslie,
also
the
most
frustrating
for
all
the
reasons
that
have
been
mentioned,
because
the
funding
is
totally
inadequate
and
1.9
million,
which
I'm
certainly
recommending
is
also
not
adequate
to
meet
the
task,
especially
for
housing,
which
I've
learned
is
the
far
most
important
piece
of
this.
U
U
U
The
other
model
I
want
to
mention-
and
robert
turner
already
mentioned
it
but
turnaround
tuesday-
is
an
awesome
re-entry
model
in
baltimore.
The
ceo
of
johns
hopkins
hospital,
he
retired
and
now
is
the
chairman
of
the
board
of
turn.
Around
tuesday.
They
got
hundreds
of
jobs
in
hospitals
in
in
baltimore
got
an
or
an
award
from
president
obama
for
their
good
work
in
baltimore.
U
U
He
wants
to
come
to
boston
and
do
what
he's
done
in
milwaukee
and
in
new
york
city,
but
he's
created
a
transitional
housing
got
rich
people
to
donate
a
lot
of
the
money,
rich
catholics
in
his
case,
and
they
donate
enough
housing
to
create
rooms
for
25
people
in
in
harlem,
and
they
have
a
program
that
has
transitional
housing
for
a
year,
free
college,
education
and
jobs,
and
we're
trying
to
get
him
up
here
and
try
and
replicate
that
learn
more
about
it.
I'll
stop.
I
think
I've
exceeded
my
two.
A
Sounds
like
we're
all
set
well,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
out
today
for
this
beginning
conversation
on
how
to
support
our
formerly
incarcerated
residents
office
of
returning
citizens,
a
robust
beginning
conversation
that
lasted
three
hours.
You
know,
and
it's
just
to
be,
and
we
just
barely
even
scratched
the
surface
surface
of
the
issues
that
we
that
we
have
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
we're
showing
up
for
folks
who
are
experiencing
and
living
with
the
trauma
of
being
incarcerated
and
trying
to
get
their
basic
needs
met.
A
And
what
are
what
are
we,
if
not
folks,
who
are
trying
to
steward
the
city's
resources
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
we're
meeting
people
where
they're
at
and
we
are
dealing
with
those
policy
harms
rooted
in
racism
that
have
really
hurt
our
community?
So
I
just
want
to
thank
my
fellow
colleagues
for
being
here:
the
administration,
the
panelists
that
we
had
and
everyone
who's
offered
public
testimony.
So
stay
tuned
more
to
come.