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Public Health, Homelessness, & Recovery Hearing- Docket #0148- Order for a hearing regarding contraception and menstrual product vending machines in the City of Boston.
A
Good
morning
my
name
is
Erin
Murphy
and
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Committee
on
Public,
Health,
homelessness,
recovery
and
mental
health.
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
broadcast,
live
on
Xfinity
8,
RCN
82
in
FiOS
964
and
streamed
on
www.boston.gov
backslash,
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash
TV,
and
will
also
be
rebroadcast
at
a
later
date.
A
A
J-U-A-N-L-O-P-E-Z
at
boston.gov,
with
your
full
name
for
the
zoom
link
at
the
start
of
your
testimony,
please
state
your
name
address
and
affiliation.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
zero.
One.
Four
eight,
this
matter
is
sponsored
by
councilor
Gabriella,
Coletta
and
Consular
routsi
luigien
and
counselor
Ricardo
Arroyo
and
was
referred
to
the
Committee
on
Public
Health
homelessness
in
recovery
on
January
11,
2023.
A
I
will
read
the
docket
summary
and
then
we
can
get
started,
so
this
is
in
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
contraception
and
menstrual
product
vending
machines
in
the
city
of
Boston
I
know
that
the
co-sponsors
will
explain
more,
but
we
will
be
focusing
on
this
hearing
just
on
the
menstrual
product
side
of
this,
because
we
will
be
filing
or
they
will
be
working
different
Avenues
to
work
around
the
contraceptive
products.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
am
joined
this
morning
by
my
colleagues
and
sponsors,
councilor,
Ruthy,
louisian,
councilor,
Gabriella,
Coletta
and
council
president
Ed
Flynn.
A
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
will
quickly
just
do
my
opening
statement
as
a
mom
of
one
daughter
and
I
did
on
my
way
out
here.
Ask
the
young
women
in
my
office
if
they
had
any
good
opinions,
some
I'm
past
the
age
of
needing
these
products,
but
know
that
we
have
to
always
be
strong
Advocates
and
everyone
was
saying
yes,
absolutely
any
way
to
make
this
easier.
A
So
I'm,
just
looking
forward
to
this
conversation,
I'll
share
more
as
we
get
there,
but
I'll
get
right
into
opening
statements
and
then
we'll
introduce
the
administration
panel.
B
Thank
you,
chair
Murphy
I'd
like
to
thank
my
co-sponsors,
Kendra
luigien
and
councilor
Arroyo,
and
also
Council
of
President
Ed
Flynn,
for
showing
up
and
being
such
a
strong
Ally
in
supporter
of
women
and
folks
who
identify
as
women
I'm
going
to
do
some
table
setting,
because
there
has
been
some
welcomed
attention
on
this
topic,
and
we
love
talking
about
it
because
we
want
to
destigmatize
as
much
as
we
can
right.
So
there
are
two
components
of
this
hearing
order
that
we
filed
late
last
summer.
B
The
first,
which
will
be
the
focal
point
of
this
discussion
as
counselor
Murphy
mentioned,
is
to
discuss
what
it
might
take
to
provide
free
or
affordable
menstrual
products
across
the
city
in
easily
accessible
vending
machines.
Menstrual
products
are
necessary,
are
necessary
for
half
of
our
population
and
essential
to
personal
and
mental
health
period.
Poverty
or
not
being
able
to
afford
menstrual
products
is
a
common
concern
for
low-income
menstruating
individuals
in
high
income
countries
according
to
2021.
B
Excuse
me.
According
to
a
2021
study
published
by
The,
BMC
Women's
Health
Journal,
many
young
menstruating
individuals
cannot
afford
products
to
meet
their
monthly
needs,
especially
black
and
brown
people
of
color.
This
may
impact
their
mental
well-being
due
to
the
shame
and
stigma
associated
with
a
lack
of
income
or
accessibility
to
these
products
as
an
age.
My
predecessor
I
was
very
proud
to
work
in
partnership
with
her
Council,
then
counselor
Lydia,
Edwards,
councilor,
Matt,
O'malley
and
counselor
anisasabi
George
to
call
for
menstrual
equity
in
all
of
Boston
Public
Schools.
B
Ultimately,
due
to
their
efforts,
we
secured
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
FY
20
budget
to
provide
menstrual
products
in
BPS,
which
was
a
huge
win
at
the
time,
and
I
have
to
say
that
nobody
was
talking
about
this
and
we
were
met
with
a
lot
of
eyebrow
raising,
but
it
was
something
that
we
knew
needed
to
happen
and
I'm
very,
very
proud
of
that.
There
are
incredible
efforts
taking
place
here
in
the
Commonwealth
at
the
state
level
as
well.
B
In
a
short
time,
we'll
hear
from
Sasha
goodfriend
about
her
dogged
advocacy
around
the
I
am
Bill
sponsored
by
senator
Pat,
Jalen,
rep,
Livingstone
and
rep
Barber.
That
would
provide
access
to
free
menstrual
products
to
all
individuals
in
schools,
shelters
and
prisons.
Boston
can
and
should
be
a
leader
in
our
space.
This
is
our
opportunity
to
be
bold
and
to
be
creative,
as
I
was
initially
researching.
This
idea,
I
was
very
pleased
to
hear
that
the
mayor's
office
of
women
advancement
is
already
working
on
something
like
this.
B
So
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
all,
and
so
as
Boston
considers
this
idea.
We
need
to
consider
who
we
are
trying
to
serve
and
where
some
of
these
menstrual
and
reproductive
Healthcare
deserts
are
Additionally.
The
second
part
of
this
order
is
considering
what
it
might
take
someday
to
get
over-the-counter
methods
of
contraceptive
contraception
in
these
vending
machines
when
they
do
become
a
reality
in
the
fight
for
bodily
autonomy,
everybody
should
have
the
right
and
have
the
power
to
choose.
B
If,
when
and
under
what
circumstances,
they
wish
to
get
pregnant
and
carry
a
child
to
term.
This
is
not
a
new
idea
in
the
city
of
Boston
Boston
University,
recently
launched
Plan
B
vending
machines
on
their
campuses,
offering
it
to
students
at
a
lesser
price
than
what
they
offer
over
the
counter.
Boston
Public
Schools
already
supplies
our
high
schools
with
access
to
condoms
with
a
parent
or
Guardian
opt-out
program.
B
So
we
have
an
incredible
opportunity
here
to
leverage
our
existing
efforts
and
to
meet
this
moment
in
our
country,
where
our
rights
nationally
are
being
pulled
back
and
so
I
really
really
look
forward
to
this
conversation.
I
want
to
thank
the
chair
for
making
time
on
the
calendar,
which
is
so
difficult.
My
co-sponsors
and
my
colleagues
for
supporting
this,
and
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here.
C
D
Morning,
everyone
I'm
very
happy
to
be
with
you
all
this
morning
to
be
talking
about
how
we
can
ensure
the
city
is
meeting
the
needs
of
all
of
our
residents
for
for
women
for
folks
who
identify
as
women
for
everyone
in
the
city
of
Boston
who
has
trouble
accessing
Metro
products
and
contraception.
D
As
my
counselor
colleague
stated,
the
sponsor
of
this,
this
hearing
is
going
to
be
focusing
on
menstrual
products
with
more
work
to
come.
We
all
know
that
with
the
decision
in
Dobbs
V
Jackson,
which
roguley
overturned
Roe
v
Wade
the
U.S
Supreme
Court
overturned
50
years
of
Federal
Constitution
constitutional
abortion
protections
because
of
this
unprecedented
rollback
of
Reproductive
Rights
across
the
country.
We
need
a
whole
of
government
response
to
fight
back
against
attempts
to
restrict
bodily
autonomy.
D
Defending
these
rights
at
the
federal
level
is
not
enough.
States
and
municipalities
must
take
immediate
action
to
expand
reproductive
Health,
Equity
and
health.
Justice
I'm
grateful
to
the
sponsor
and
to
the
administration
for
their
initiative
here
and
making
sure
that
we
are
addressing
period
poverty
and
making
Health
Equity
a
Cornerstone
of
the
administration
and
the
work
of
the
council.
D
We've
already
seen
as
as
councilor
Coletta
stated,
we've
already
seen
colleges
across
the
Commonwealth
take
the
first
steps,
so
we
know
that
this
can
work,
and
so
this
is
part
of
a
conversation
that
a
lot
of
our
non-profit
organizations
have
already
been
leading.
D
I
look
forward
to
hearing
the
testimony
from
from
Sasha
I
know
that
love
your
menses
has
been
doing
an
incredible
work
on
this
issue
for
especially
for
black
and
brown
young
girls
and
women,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
further
meetings
and
working
sessions
where
we're
able
to
bring
folks
in
and
really
talk
about,
the
work
they've
been
doing
and
how
this
will
open
up
the
the
doors
and
really
reduce
stigma.
I
can
tell
you
this.
D
As
a
city
councilor
I'm
often
like
having
to
you,
know
I
as
a
whole
adult
the
stigma
is
still
real
right.
Walking
into
that
like
had
to
text
counselor
Coletta.
Do
you
have
any
on
you
because
I,
you
know
and
and
I
think
that
if
we
had
it
publicly
available
right,
it
would
take
that
away
if
we
were
just
always
available
in
the
city
council
bathrooms
are
always
available.
I
wouldn't
have
to
do
that
and
the
stigma
of
like
not
being
comfortable
talking
to
this
around
our
male
colleagues.
D
Right
like
it
is
our
middle
colleagues
would
not
exist
if
periods
were
not
a
reality
in
this
world
right
and
so.
I.
Look
forward
to
your
leadership
to
making
us
all
feel
more
comfortable
about
having
these
conversations.
Public
access
to
mental
products
breaks
down
barriers
to
care
to
care
and
fight
stigma
around
sexual
health,
and
we
know
that
there
are
Health
deserts
where
black
and
brown
residents
face
limited
access
to
these
Essential
Health
tools.
D
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
counselors
Coletta,
luigien
and
Arroyo
for
sponsoring
the
support
and
hearing
and
for
councilman
Murphy
for
sharing
it
as
well.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
team
from
the
will
Administration
for
being
here
as
well
and
for
the
important
work
you
are
doing
in
this
city.
E
As
my
colleague
stated
I
think
everyone
should
have
the
freedom
to
decide
when
they
want
children
and
have
access
to
contraception,
yet,
for
many
contraception
might
be
difficult
to
obtain
and
can
be
expensive
to
get
so.
There
should
be
ways
of
ensuring
access
to
contraception,
like
vending
machines
which
might
offer
less
expensive
contraceptives
contraceptives.
This
is
an
important
part
of
that
freedom.
E
Menstrual
products
can
be
expensive
but
necessary,
and
for
many
this
is
a
monthly
need
that
can
add
up
in
terms
of
expenses
for
low-income
girls
and
women
being
unable
to
afford
menstrual
products
impacts,
not
only
their
physical
health,
but
also
their
mental
health
as
well.
It
is
important
that
we
explore
ways
to
ensure
that
menstrual
products
are
accessible
and
affordable.
E
I'm
glad
that
we're
having
this
discussion
want
to
again
say.
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
sponsoring
this,
for
the
important
work
they're
doing
and
although
I'm
not
able
to
stay
for
this
entire
meeting,
I
do
plan
to
listen
and
watch
the
video
later
this
evening
to
learn
more
about
the
learn
more
about
the
hearing.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
council,
president
Flynn,
so
we
will
have
two
panels
today
in
public
testimony.
Our
first
panel
will
be
the
administration
panel.
So
when
you
start
just
please
state
your
name
and
your
office,
you
work
at.
We
know
here,
but
just
for
those
watching
in
and
you
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
so
much
Alexandra
Valdez
executive
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
women's
advancement
such
a
pleasure,
to
be
here,
and
thank
you
all
for
holding
this
hearing.
It's
so
important.
I
I
on
my
way
home
on
my
way
to
work.
I
was
thinking
so
amazing
that
we're
having
this
conversation
in
city,
council
chamber
and
so
amazing
that
we're
having
this
conversation
together.
And
how
do
we
think
about
accessibility?
F
How
do
we
think
about
making
sure
that
products
are
available
in
every
single
neighborhood
city-wide
to
assure
that
we're
supporting
our
menstruators
all
over
the
city,
which
is
so
important?
I'll
just
talk
about
a
couple
of
initiatives
that
MOA
has
been
underway
in
the
fall.
We
partnered
with
love
your
Menzies
to
specifically
focus
on
the
education
piece.
F
And
it
was
very
I.
I
was
talking
to
one
of
my
colleagues
earlier
as
it
was
an
honest
conversation,
and
it
was
an
opportunity
for
everyone
to
be
honest
in
the
sense
as
to
ask
questions
right
and
and
actually
talk
about
what
they
don't
know
and
talk
about
how
this
conversation
makes
them
feel
and
also
just
brought
a
lot
into
perspective.
How
it
is
so
important
to
think
about
that
education
piece
and
how
it's
so
important
to
make
sure
these
conversations
are
being
had
broader
in
the
fall.
F
How
do
we
continue
the
conversation
and
how
do
we
do
it
in
a
way
that
we're
also
continuing
to
educate-
and
it
was
an
amazing
pop-up
that
was
here
in
City
Hall,
for
a
little
bit
over
a
month
where
we
had
an
amazing
reception
to
also
bring
in
and
uplift
even
more
more
and
to
think
about
how
we,
as
a
city,
are
focusing
on
helping
our
young
girls,
our
menstruators,
specifically
those
and
underprivileged
committees
throughout
the
city.
F
Moa
has
continued
to
partner
and
think
about
what
other
ways
we
are
supporting
and
we
are
uplifting
this
specific
issue
and
we
do
have
some
projects
underway
and
some
initiatives,
and
we
really
really
look
forward
to
think
about.
How
do
we
work
together?
How
do
we
also
amplify
the
issue
by
better,
yet
how
do
we
help
in
our
menstruator
Citywide
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
free
menstrual
products
in
the
city.
C
B
You
so
much
for
that
opening,
Alex
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
work
as
well
on
this
you've
done
an
incredible
job.
The
the
period
pop-up
was
awesome
and
then
the
the
men
for
menstruation
was
incredibly
creative.
So
thank
you
for
that
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
it
went
well.
B
Do
you
have
any
ongoing
projects
that
you
can
speak
to,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
providing
access
to
these
products?
Has
there
been
any
discussions
that
you
can
say
publicly
about
putting
these
on?
Maybe
you
know
city
land,
and
where
have
you
considered
placing
these
sort
of
products.
F
Yeah,
we
have
had
a
lot
of
conversations
as
to
what
it
will
look
like
for
us
to
even
think
about
having
an
initiative.
So
we
originally
had
conversations
internally
I
also
externally
in
city-owned
buildings,
as
well
as
what
it
would
look
like
for
us
to
have
these
in
city
property
and
also
offer
them
for
free,
we're,
still
figuring
and
then
tying
a
lot
of
details
on
the
specific
initiative.
B
Okay
and
have
you
identified
any
locations
that
are
either
menstrual
or
contraception
product
deserts.
I
know
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
closing
of
Walgreens
and
CVS's,
specifically
in
Roslindale
High
Park
and
Mattapan
East
Boston.
There
are
some
places
where
there
are
food
deserts
right,
there's
not
even
any
any
opportunity
to
get
food
or
any
of
these
products.
So
have
you
identified
any
locations
in
the
city
of
Boston
where
you
might
be
able
to
place
one
of
these
vending
machines,
yeah.
F
So
we
actually
have
been
looking
at
a
lot
of
data,
specifically
focusing
on
on
the
different
Mattapan
East,
Boston,
Roxbury
Dorchester
and
looking
at
other
places
as
well.
We
started
looking
at
foot
traffic
on
what
does
a
specifically
at
bcy
of
centers
I
mean
that's
also,
that's
nice
data
that
we
can
grab
and
actually
take
a
look
at
and
that
sort
of
helped
us
think
about.
If
this
is
a
foot
traffic,
what
it
looks
like
in
a
bcyo
center.
B
F
Of
course,
most
importantly,
is
being
able
to
find
funding
right
to
be
able
to
roast
to
have
the
RFP.
It
will
be
specifically,
we
will
have
vendors
come
and
apply
and
the
best
bid
will
be
selected
obviously
by
it
would
be
an
application
making
sure
that
is
very
well
aware.
It's
about
the
city
and
the
next
step
will
be
to
actually
sit
down
and
think
about
locations.
And
where
are
we
thinking
city-wide?
F
Are
we
thinking
specific
locations,
whether
we
start
with
specific
neighborhoods
or
are
we
thinking
of
doing
a
larger
pilot,
more
concentrated
and
depending
on
who
the
vendor
is
thinking,
also
about
the
type
of
machine
and
also
thinking
about
in
how
many
places
one
other
thing
that
is
also
to
consider
right
is
that
not
every
menstruator
uses
a
women's
bathroom
and
not
in
every
location.
There's
gender
neutral
bathrooms
so
also
thinking
about
them
to
perspective
about
also
making
sure
that,
depending
on
the
location,
products
are
offered
in
multiple
locations
inside
that
building.
F
So
that
would
be
another
conversation
to
have
whether,
if
we
hypothetically
choose,
let's
say,
for
example,
city
hall,
or
whether
that
a
bcyf
center.
What,
if
that
specific
location
doesn't
have
gender
neutral
bathrooms?
How
many
and
where
are
we
putting
the
menstrual
products
and
that's
another
great
conversation
to
have
and
then
whether
how
many
locations
we're
looking
at
and
how
much
cost
is
going
to
cost,
depending
on
the
type
of
machine
that
we
choose
to
have
on
the
specific
location.
B
F
So
right
now
Moen,
specifically
working
from
our
past
fiscal
year
budget.
So
we,
our
budget,
is
a
little
bit
of
restraint
for
specific
for
this
fiscal
year
for
fy24,
we
have
definitely
put
into
our
budget
specific
for
the
specific
programming,
but
thinking
at
a
larger
spectrum
and
what
it
will
be
in
RFP.
Definitely
that
should
be
a
larger
conversation
on
how
we
think
about
a
lot
of
more
funds
to.
B
It
okay
we're
about
to
enter
our
budget
cycle,
and
so
this
is
something
that
is
a
priority
of
mine
and
so
I'm
I'm
really
curious.
If
you
could
tell
me
ballpark
how
much
a
pilot
program
would
cost
in
the
city
of
Boston,
if
we're
thinking,
maybe
five
locations
and
I
know
it
depends
on
on
the
machine
in
particular
right.
B
F
Yeah
I
mean
it's
really
hard
to
tell
right,
because
it
also
depends
on
how
much
product
we're
using
in
each
location.
We
can
say:
I
have
looked
on
companies
that
have
charged
all
the
way
from
8
000
per
machine
to
ten
thousand
per
machine,
but
it
also
depends
on
how
much
product
we're
putting
into
the
machine
on
a
monthly
weekly
basis.
So
those
are
numbers
that,
depending
on
once,
machines
are
even
put
into
specific
places
that
we
will
have
to
document
and
say
well
x
amount
of
products
have
been
used
in
this
month.
F
Then
we
will
need
to
reorder
again
or
x.
Amount
of
products
have
been
used,
and
this
week,
then
we
will
need
to
reorder
again
and
also
really
depends
on
the
company
as
well.
Some
companies
might
have
other
machines
that
might
be
cheaper,
a
bit
more
expensive,
so
I
think
it's
thinking
about
a
ballpark
I
would
say,
based
on
the
numbers
that
I
have
seen
from
other
companies.
That's
sort
of
what
I
have
seen
so
far,
but
again
really
much
depends
on
how
much
product
is
used
on
a
monthly
and
a
weekly
basis
as
well.
B
F
It's
something
that
we
are
definitely
very
much
open
to
having
in
the
conversation
as
important
as
menstrual
products
are.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
opening
the
door
for
other
products
as
well,
so
moa's
more
than
happy
to
to
think
about
what
would
that
look
like
and
also
what
would
funding
look
like
for
that
specific
product
as
well?
Okay,.
B
So,
just
to
summarize,
you
all
just
based
on
this
based
on
this
project
in
this
program,
you're,
really
thinking
about
a
City
municipal
buildings,
yes
or
outside
City
municipal
buildings
or
wherever
there
are
gender,
neutral
bathrooms
or
Just
Bathrooms
in
general,
right
so
you're
thinking,
bcyf
right
is
BPL.
A
part
of
the
conversation
I
know
that
there's
a
high
level
of
foot
traffic
through
our
libraries.
Yes,
okay,
is
BPS
part
of
the
conversation
yeah.
F
Everyone
has
been
really
much
a
part
of
the
conversation.
It's
such
a
broader
topic
that
it's
when
we
initially
started
having
our
conversations,
I'm
just
bringing
everyone
together
was
so
important,
because
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
doing
a
lot
of
work
around
the
space,
so
everyone
has
come
together.
Yes
to
have
these
conversations,
which
is
amazing,
definitely
makes
us
put
that
making
sure
that
we're
all
on
one
one
page
with
a
lot
of
this
work.
B
And
my
last
question
and
then
we
can
go
to
my
co-sponsors,
but
do
we
have
any
data,
and
this
is
for
the
BPS
Metro
menstrual
Equity
component
of
this?
But
do
we
have
any
data
on
BPS
providing
these
projects
through
School
nurses,
I
saw
a
stat
from
the
I
am
website
that
School
nurses
pay
a
percentage
of
their
own
salary
for
these
products
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
that
data
anywhere,
and
this
might
be
a
question
for
BPS
but
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
it
us.
F
A
Thank
you
yeah.
Thank
you
awesome.
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
go
to
council
Louisiana,
but
I
do
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
third
original
co-sponsor
counselor
Arroyo
has
joined
us,
but
you
can
go
counselor
Louisiana.
Thank.
D
You
and
thank
you
for
your
answers,
thus
far.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
answers.
Thus
far,
I
think
councilor
I
asked
the
bulk
of
the
questions
that
I
wanted
to,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
a
bit
more
about
It's,
always
important
when
we're
having
these
discussions.
D
That
acknowledgment
that,
like
it's
a
what
we're
doing,
is,
is
innovative,
but
we're
not
the
first
and
that
it's
and
that
it's
happened
and
that
there
are
models
that
we
can
learn
from
and
I
wanted
you
to
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
models
that
we
see
here
in
Boston,
with
respect
to
universities
or
other
cities
that
are
getting
this
right.
I'm
sure
that
there
are
others,
and
so
what
has
the
work
been?
What
work
have
we
done
to
see
the
models
that
exist
at
other
universities
and
around
the
country?
Yeah.
F
So,
just
as
of
right
now,
when
MOA
has
done
a
lot
of
work,
we
have
seen
even
current
private
companies
as
well
as
Pro
through
love,
your
menses
organizations
and
City
organizations
that
have
done
this
product,
whether
that's
partnering,
directly
with
a
non-profit
like
of
your
mentees,
to
also
include
products
by
the
same
way
also
provide
education.
F
That's
also
done
very
well
when
we
think
about
yes,
we
we
have
the
free
products
and
the
bathrooms,
but
how
do
we
attach
to
educational
peace
behind
it
where
we're
also
teaching
menstruators
and
everyone
in
the
community?
The
importance
of
having
this
conversation
we
have
also
seen
like
we
mentioned
on
the
vending
machines
in
northeastern,
which
has
worked
tremendously.
It
was
an
amazing
out
for
by
the
students
everyone
around
it,
and
it
has
received
amazing
feedback
from
students.
D
D
Thank
you,
and-
and
others
do
you
know-
are
there
other
cities
that
have
done
this
and
have
executed
it
in
a
manner
that
we
want
to
learn
from,
or
is
that
additional
research
that
we
have
to
do
yeah.
F
We
have
had
some
conversations
with
additional
cities.
Moa
has
had
some
conversations
with
Somerville
some
conversations
with
DC
and
New
York,
and
it's
something
that
yes,
they
have
piloted
in
different
ways,
but
at
least
from
a
conversations
when
we
have
a
specifically
New,
York
and
DC.
They
do
offer
some
free
menstrual
products,
but
they're
still
thinking
about
how
to
think
about
a
broader
and
more
Innovative
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
it's
accessible
everywhere.
F
But
it's
great
to
say
that
it's
a
conversation
that,
like
you
mentioned,
we're
not
the
only
ones
having
them
yeah
and
there
have
been
so
many
ways
to
look
at
it,
but
definitely
looking
at
different
ways
of
how
do
we
do
this
in
an
equitable
way
to
make
sure
that
that
everyone
has
access
to
these
products.
D
Yeah
and
I
think
it's
important,
even
though
we're
not
the
first
I
think
it's
still
pretty
radical
and
bold
and
important
for
us
to
be
doing
this
work,
but
there's
always
a
lot.
There's
always
a
lot
to
learn,
especially
from
folks
who
have
like
made
the
same.
You
know
done
done
the
thing
and
made
mistakes
and
learned
from
the
thing
it
helps
us
and
I
think
it's
all
about
just
learning
from
each
other
and
doing
the
work
in
solidarity
building.
D
So,
and
so
you
touched
this
too
right,
there's
this
important
education
component
to
making
natural
products
more
available.
We
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are,
you
know,
considered
considering
those
who,
where
there's
not
a
lot
of
English
proficiency.
So
what
are
we
you
know?
Are
we
thinking
about
how
we
make
the
health
education
more
accessible
to
Immigrant
populations
to
folks
from
English
is
not
their
first
language.
F
So
this
is
something
that's
definitely
at
the
top
of
our
priority.
When,
whenever
the
pilot
or
initiative
initiates
or,
however,
that
looks
like
or
when
we
decide,
depending
on
budgeting,
what
RFP
will
look
like
or
that
educational
piece
would
look
like
making
sure
that
we
are
not
just
being
able
to
translate,
but
also
hold
information
sessions
in
different
languages,
make
sure
that
all
of
the
materials
are
translated
in
a
top
10
languages
in
the
city
of
Boston
is
so
essential.
D
Thank
you,
director,
I,
think
councilor
kalada
asked
A
variation
of
this
question
and
you
address
it
in
your
opening,
but
and
I
talked
about
it
too,
like
how
making
them
more
available
really
also
gets
at
the
stigma
and
the
the
shame
that
is
often
associated
with
the
fact
that
this
very
biological
thing
that
happens
to
women
and
folks
who
identify
that
we
don't
have
these
products
more
widely
available
and
that
one
of
the
things
that
I
saw
that
I
thought
was
very
successful
around
in
the
Reproductive
Rights
Movement
was
just
like
just
just
say
the
word,
abortion
just
say:
abortion
say
abortion
over
and
over
again.
D
I
wonder
if
there's
like
a
similar
sort
of
public
campaign
that
we
can
do
here
to
make
to
reduce
the
stigma
like
I
said
even
with
me,
sometimes
as
a
whole,
adult
like
how
do
we
and
I
did
the
men
from
menstruation
event?
Is?
It
was
a
really
great
way
of
doing
that,
but
if
there
are
other
ways
that
you
think
that,
like
you
know,
we're
elected
officials,
we
talk
to
folks.
Do
you
have
any
tips
or
advice
for
us?
F
Yeah
I
mean
just
having
more
of
these
conversations,
I
think
it's
so
important
and
having
the
opportunity
to
openly
talk
about
it
and
openly
talk
about
it
in
spaces
where
originally,
these
conversations
would
not
have,
especially
within
our
immigrant
communities
around
Ally
and
men,
are
so
important
to
think
about
how
we're
supporting
our
young
girls
or
menstrators,
or
even,
how
are
we
supporting
our
own
families,
our
young
girls,
coming
up
now,
and
it's
so
important
to
have
these
conversations
and
just
bring
in
awareness
and
also
looking
into
what
are
other
non-profit
organizations
doing,
that
we
can
also
be
elevating
their
work
and
how
we
can
continue
to
be
Advocates
around
their
work
as
well.
D
All
right
well,
thank
you,
director,
Valdez
I,
think
we're
going
to
hear
from
some
great
organizations
who
are
Partners,
who
will
learn
from
and
we'll
hopefully
learn
more
and
other
meetings
and
working
sessions,
but
director
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
do
on
behalf
of
women
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
your
Talos
advocacy,
and
it's
always
a
good
thing
when
we're
working
on
something
that
the
administration
is
working
on
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Chair,
thank
you.
Councilor
Arroyo,.
G
Thank
you,
Matt,
chair
I
want
to
thank
councilor,
Coletta
and
councilor
Jen
as
well
for
their
leadership
on
this.
This
is
something
that's
incredibly
important
to
me
in
terms
of
what
and
how
we
are
impacting
our
city
moving
forward
and
how
we
are
leading
on
an
issue
here
that
can
be
a
model
across
the
country.
One
of
my
questions
specifically
on
this
is
this:
is
the
public
health,
homelessness,
homelessness
and
Recovery
committee,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
sort
of
been
frustrated
with?
Is
the
state
house
had
a
bill?
G
Essentially,
the
I
am
bill
that
didn't
make
it
through
I
think
in
2019-2020,
whose
goal
was
to
provide
Administration
products
or
menstrual
products
during
and
for
people
doing
prison
time
in
our
County
prisons,
in
our
jails,
folks,
in
our
homelessness
centers
and
in
our
schools,
is
there
a
way
to
do
a
to
work
in
partnership
with
our
homeless,
shelters
or
our
homeless,
our
homeless
population?
With
this
kind
of
a
program,
is
there
a
way
to
sort
of
work
in
private
partner,
private
public
partnership?
G
F
I
think
that
there's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
work
with
specifically
women's
shelter
and
also
thinking
about
the
need
right
and
a
lot
of
non-profits
do
a
lot
of
this
work
and
that
Focus,
but
as
a
city,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we
are
engaging
and
actually
finding
the
organizations
and
the
shelters
that
are
actually
meeting
ensure
products?
I
think
that's?
We
would
think
about
step
one
and
then
thinking
about
cost
wise.
F
What
it
will
look
like
for
us
to
provide
menstrual
products
to
them
and
also
think
about
what
other
City
departments
are
already
working
with
women's
shelter.
To
think
about
providing
these
products
I
think
it's
something
very
important
to
look
at
whether
what
other
City
departments
are
also
looking
into
women's
shelters
and
providing
menstrual
products.
Yeah.
G
It
would
just
be
good
to
know,
wear
that
need
because
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
non-profits
that
might
be
trying
to
help
step
into
that
void
as
well
right,
but
I
think,
where
they're
not
doing
that
the
city
has
a
responsibility
to
step
into
those
voids,
and
so
it
would
just
be
good
to
know
that
one
side
is
talking
to
the
other.
Side
of
them
were
getting
a
sense
of
what
the
need
is
and
where
that
need
still
is
maintained
to
move
forward
on
that
I.
G
Think
a
lot
of
the
questions
about
budget
or
more
statements
rather
about
budget
have
been
asked
to
like
counselor
Coletta,
but
obviously
it
would
be
wonderful
to
have
some
ballpark
number.
The
council
has
more
power
on
the
budget
than
we've
ever
had
in
the
past,
essentially
to
move
money
around
and
to
adjust
budget
in
different
ways
and
to
add
amendments
to
the
budget,
and
this
would
be
a
worthy
thing
to
do
that.
For
so
it
would
be
really
good
to
have
some
sense
of
what
the
numbers
would
be
to
have.
G
The
city
do
a
pilot
program
on
this,
specifically
for
supply.
For
the
machines
and
for
those
Partnerships,
whether
or
not
they
require,
for
instance,
the
maintenance
of
those
machines,
the
the
stocking
of
those
machines,
whatever
we
think
of
ballpark
number
is
on
that
at
some
point,
would
be
really
good,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
have
one
now,
I
heard
some
some
of
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
know
now
that
we're
heading
into
budget
season
what
this
might
need
to
actually
get
off
the
ground.
Yeah.
G
Which
is
great
one
of
my
questions
was
already
asked
about
locations.
It
sounds
like
you're
thinking
about
bcyf
boss,
Public
Library,
Boston,
Public,
Schools
I'm,
assuming
City
Hall
is
also
on
the
agenda.
There's
a
program
out
of
Brookline
that
they
think
I
think
it
was
2019
where
Brookline
makes
sure
that
there's
and
I
think
this
came
up
with.
G
Not
all
people
who
need
menstruation
products,
use
the
women's
restroom
but
I
think
there's
a
equivalent
where
we
can
do
something
similar
around
our
public
restrooms,
but
they
require
them
in
all
of
their
public,
restrooms
and
so
I.
Think.
There's
there's
a
question
on
obviously
maintenance
and
getting
that
done.
G
But
is
there
any
appetite
for
doing
that
say
with
our
public
libraries
or
City
Hall
as
a
as
a
starter
and
making
sure
that
we
maintain
that
program
for
all
of
our
sort
of
public
restrooms
that
we
are
able
to
sort
of
work
into
that
I'm
we're
much
bigger
than
Brookline,
but
making
sure
that
we
have
that
access
I
think
is
incredibly
important?
Is
there
any
conversation
or
movement
to
sort
of
increase
where
we
do
it
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
in
more
locations.
F
Yeah,
of
course,
I
mean
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
not
everyone
who
meant
treats
uses
the.
F
And
it's
so
important
that
if
we
do
have
this
conversation
and
this
pilot
does
move
forward,
that
the
products
are
offered
in
different
locations,
that
they're
often
also
in
men's
bathroom,
gender,
neutral
bathrooms
and
also
non-bathroom
locations,
make
it
to
make
sure
that
they're
being
accessible.
So,
of
course,
that's
definitely
part
of
the
conversation
yeah.
G
And
I
see
this
as
a
big
part
of
getting
sort
of
this
out
of
bathrooms
and
more
into
public
spaces,
with
the
with
the
ability
to
sort
of
put
it
in
a
in
a
public
way.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
made
more
aware
of
through
sort
of
my
sponsorship
of
this
is
the
stigma
around
menstruation
and
so
I
guess.
G
The
question
is:
is
there
any
programming
that
this
city
is
doing
directly
to
address
that
and
if
there
is,
would
that
benefit
from
increased
in
the
same
conversation
that
we're
having
about
budget
but
increased
resources
or
or
is
it
a
situation
where
we
haven't
done
that?
And
we
need
to
sort
of
create
a
pilot
program
to
sort
of
deal
with
that
is
that
like?
Where
are
we
at
on
just
working
on
stigma?
F
And
so
MOA
has
had
the
opportunity
to
partner
with
non-profit
organizations
like
love,
your
mentees,
where
we
have
hosted
And
Men
from
menstruation
Workshop
or
specifically,
to
talk
about
that
stigma
and
to
also
bring
awareness
and
the
importance
of
having
conversations
with
with
others
who
are
not
menstruators.
And
how
do
we
think
about
educating?
How
do
we
think
about
supporting
and
also
how
do
we
amplify
and
bring
more
attention
to
this
issue
in
a
way
that
we're
making
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
it,
but
yet
learn?
F
G
And
then
just
the
final
aspect
of
this
for
me,
obviously
we're
very
aware
that
it's
probably
never
been
a
worse
time
right
now
in
terms
of
the
environment,
on
the
laws
around
and
where
we
add
our
our
add-on
sort
of
reproductive
Health.
G
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
aware
that
our
universities
do
is
they
do
have
sort
of
subsidized
machines
for
contraceptives,
for
both
men
and
women.
Things
like
Plan
B
things
that
make
it
easier
and
more
accessible
for
individuals.
I
think.
The
idea
here
is
to
start
with
menstruation
products
and
then
sort
of
figure
out
where
to
go
from
there.
G
But
is
there
an
a
lane
essentially
for
the
city,
to
take
a
role
in
making
sure
that
folks
have
access
to
contraceptives,
making
sure
that
they
have
access
to
things
like
Plan
B,
making
sure
that
they
have
access
to
these
things
in
a
sort
of
destigmatized,
more
accessible
way?
And
the
reason
I
say
that
is:
we
do
have
contraception
sort
of
reproductive
Health
deserts
in
the
city
of
Boston.
We
have
a
separate
but
sort
of
related
issue
which
is
Walgreens,
has
left
certain
areas
and
so
I
think.
G
There's
a
priority
on
making
sure
that,
in
all
of
the
places
that
are
dealing
with
this
issue,
that
Boston
is
becoming
the
most
accessible
and
the
most
successful
at
championing
these
issues.
So
I
think
that
there's
some
some
goal
or
priority
for
menstruation
and
menstrual
products
taking
a
lead
as
a
pilot
and
then
sort
of
working
into
contraceptions,
and
these
things
and
I
would
second
that
I
would
agree
with
that.
But
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
there
is
some
plan
moving
forward
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
these
things
accessible.
F
Yeah
I
mean
we
would
love
to
think
about
what
it
will
look
like
and
even
have
those
conversations,
I
think
it's
I'm,
starting
with
Mentor
products
is,
and
it's
it's
key
we're
opening
the
door
to
having
that
conversation
and
and
then
having
the
conversation
of
a
contraceptives.
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
one
to
have
as
right
after
we
see
how
successful
the
whatever
program
that
we
it
is,
that
we're
doing
and
see
how
we're
inputting
into
it.
Citywide
I
think.
G
Yeah
yeah,
no
because
it's
obviously
it's
obviously
related,
but
not
the
same,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
giving
both
of
them
the
sort
of
attention
that
they're
both
supposed
to
get.
Thank
you
both
for
the
work
that
you
do
really
appreciate.
It
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
something
back
on
numbers.
Every
time
we
ask
somebody
from
the
administration
what
they
need.
There
was
like
I'm,
great
I.
Have
it
abundance
so
please
don't
fall
into
that
trap.
A
I
just
have
a
couple
comments,
questions
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
asking
such
great
questions.
We
already
got
a
lot
of
good
information.
A
We
know
that
you
know
our
city
doesn't
run
without
our
Partnerships
and
non-profits,
and
our
community
centers
and
I
I
know
when
the
conversations
here
and
the
council,
it
mostly
is
just
around
the
budget
that
we
control
and
the
Departments
like
was
brought
up.
You
know
BPS
Boston
Public
Libraries,
but
do
we
already
have
or
are
we
thinking
of
having
a
partnership
because
I
know
community
health
centers
often
many
of
the
ones
I
know
offer
contraception
and
free
products.
So
are
we
going
to
work,
maybe
with
them
also
for
other
non?
A
F
I
definitely
think
when
it's
time
to
think
about
this
at
a
larger
Spectrum
or
whether
we
think
about
it,
Citywide
or
whether
we're
thinking
about
a
a
call
to
action
having
community
health
centers
at
the
car
at
the
table
is
so
important,
so
I
think
whatever
the
next
step
is
whether,
if
it's
a
pilot,
whether
if
it's
an
RFP,
whatever
we
decide,
I
think
making
sure
to
have
committee
health
centers
for
the
conversations
it's
so
important
because,
like
you
mentioned
Council
Murphy,
a
lot
of
them
already
offer
products
and
they
offer
them
for
free
and
it's.
F
A
Right,
I'm
thinking
also,
if
there's
an
education
campaign,
because
they're
the
you
know,
nurses,
doctors,
people
working
with
these
women
young
girls,
a
couple
other
things
and
I
know
your
work
with
Matt
O'malley,
but
I
was
proud
to
take
over
the
impact
melanoma,
which
is
what
I
was
thinking
of
when
we
talked
about.
You
know,
others
who
were
doing
this
and
I
know
console
luigien
mentioned
it,
but
there
are
other
non-profits
they're,
not
offering
menstrual
products.
A
But
in
this
case
you
know,
we've
partnered
with
them
to
get
into
museums
around
the
city.
With
you
know
the
sunscreen
dispensers
that
are
free
that
same
idea
of
there's
a
product,
people
need
it.
It
saves
lives.
In
that
case,
you
know
in
other
ways
you
know.
So
how
will
we
partnering
also
with
or
maybe
working
with
those
types
of
non-profits
who
are
doing
a
similar
like
it's
just
an
idea
that
we
could
maybe
bring
those
people
into
the
conversation
because
they're
very
successful
at
expanding
that
program
and
working
with
DCR?
A
And
you
know
outdoor
parks
and
around
the
city,
but
also
you
know,
High
foot
traffic.
They
have
the
data,
so
I'd
love
to
connect
with
that
information.
We
have
there
a
couple
other
things
you
did
and
I
appreciate.
You
highlighted
School
nurses
out
of
pocket
I
know
classroom
teachers
also,
so
we'd
never
get
a
real
number,
because,
unfortunately,
teachers
spend
a
lot
of
money
out
of
pocket
in
nurses
and
I
was
thinking
also.
A
You
know
our
community
centers
staff
if
girls
need
something
if
anyone
needs
something
most
of
the
people
working
in
these
spaces,
just
pull
out
their
own
wallet.
Unfortunately,
so
it's
hard
to
track
what's
really
being
spent
and
what
needed
so
just
want
to.
Thank
you
for
like
highlighting
that
we
do
know
that
there's
lots
of
people
already
knowing
that
there's
an
issue
and
when
we
go
to
food
pantries,
you
know
we
have
dog
food
and
cat
food.
A
Now
we
also
have
diapers
a
lot
of
non-profits
do
diaper
drives
because
we
know
that
alone
can
wipe
out
your
budget,
but
menstrual
products,
too,
are
being
offered
so
making
sure,
maybe
partnering
with
these
great
food
pantries
to
have
maybe
menstrual
cycle
products.
So
when
people
are
going
to
do
maybe
many
of
the
food
pantries
that
I've
you
know
worked
with
or
are
aware
of,
they
have
returned.
A
You
know
families
every
week
it
may
be
a
Saturday
Tuesday,
Thursday
distribution,
so
maybe
kind
of
working
the
two
with
donations
to
food
pantries
that
are
already
working
directly
with
families.
That
would
be
in
need
of
this
and
one
just
last
plug
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
saw
it
but
I
know
it
was
pretty
life-changing
that
Netflix
movie,
that
was
by
the
pad
product,
it
was
the
Academy
Award
documentary.
A
It
was
called
period
end
of
sentence,
everyone
should
watch
it,
it's
pretty
eye-opening
and
even
though
it's
you
know
in
India
and
other
places,
it
affects
so
many
women
and
families
here
the
same
way
that
it
can
just
stop
you
from
living
your
life
fully
and
that's
just
unnecessary
here
in
Boston.
So
thank
you
if
my
colleagues
or
you're
good
too
yep
absolutely
so.
We
have
a
couple
more
questions
before
we
set
you
free.
B
H
B
And
I'm
so
grateful
to
my
colleagues,
it
seems
like
we're
all
aligned,
because
my
line
of
questioning
is
is
very
similar
to
some
of
what's
been
said.
So
I'll
have
two
things
and
then
just
a
comment
to
Anchor
us
and
and
motivate
us
moving
forward.
So
in
the
interim
it
sounds
like
there's
a
long
Runway
to
getting
a
pilot
program
in
this
fiscal
year.
Right,
that's
the
goal.
Yeah
is
that
is
that
pilot
program
and
then
also
while
the
I
am
bill
is
circling
and
circulating
at
the
state
house.
B
B
Can
we
just
with
the
money
that
we
have
buy
these
products
and
give
them
to
the
East
Boston
soup
kitchen
women's
shelters?
While
we
have
this
legislation
going
through
and
then
thinking
about
partnering
with
cbo's
or
maybe
non-profits
like
big
sister
little
sister
Girls
Inc
girl
scouts
things
like
that?
Is
there
a
possibility
for
that,
and
would
you
be
committed
to
looking
into
it?
Yeah.
F
I'm
happy
to
to
look
into
it.
I
think
would
be
nice
to
ask
procurement
and
how?
How
will
we
do
it
in
a
perspective
making
sure
if
it's
over
a
specific
amount?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
order
or
how
do
we
look
into
it
so
yeah
more
than
happy
to
to
look
into
I
think
anything
that
we
can
see
and
offer
and
products.
B
Thank
you
can
I
just
ask
for
a
formal
follow-up
to
the
chair,
just
to
talk
with
procurement
and
figure
out
how
this
might
be
possible
ahead
of
the
fiscal
year,
the
new
fiscal
year.
Yeah,
of
course,
thank
you
director
and
then
just
drilling
into
the
specifics
of
funding
before
we
let
you
go
I.
B
About
the
machines
but
I
want
to
get
into
the
details
a
little
bit
again,
so
I
can
be
effective
in
my
advocacy
with
the
administration
and
through
the
budget
process,
so
machines.
So
you
said
eight
thousand
dollars
to
and
I
missed
the
last
part
of
the
the
the
more
expensive
machines
that
you
were
looking
at
yeah.
F
Like
I
said
it
depends
when
we
were
looking
at
some
other
companies.
It
depends
it
was
ranging,
depending
on
the
machine
and
also
depending
on
the
type
of
products,
because
if
we
want
to
look
into
environmentally
friendly
products,
that's
also
more
right
and
that's
something
that
we
also
want
to
think
of
think
about.
How
do
we
also
our
offering
environmentally
Safe
products?
F
So
it
really
much
depends
and
also
depends
on
how
the
usage
on
a
weekly
a
monthly
basis,
so
it
can
range,
at
least
for
the
companies
that
we
were
looking
at.
But
then
you
have
cheaper
options
that
are
well
as
well
that
are
not
vending
machines,
they're,
just
dispensers
so
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
point
of
us
sitting
down
right,
looking
at
all
the
different
options
and
thinking.
Yes,
there
are
vending
machines,
there's
also
dispensers,
but
there's
also
boxes.
C
F
It
really
depends
on
what
we
want
specifically
and
what
type
of
whether
we
call
it
no
product,
but
what
type
of
machine
or
dispenser
we
want
to
have
in
the
different
places.
So
it
really
much
ranges
from
I
mean
we
looked
at
some
companies
that
were
not
charging
for
the
products,
but
they
were
charging
for
the
machines.
Okay,.
C
F
C
B
And
so
I'm
thinking
in
maximums
here
you
know
so
that
way,
I
can
figure
out
what
my
ass
is
going
to
be
so
I'm
just
hearing
8
000
to
let's
just
say,
I,
don't
know
twenty
thousand
dollars
right,
I
mean.
Maybe
twenty
thousand
dollars
would
cover
some
of
the
products
and
maybe
even
25.
So
if
we're
trying
to
do
five
locations,
that's
at
least
125
000
just
for
the
products
and
the
machines,
Alone
Community,
Education
and
engagement
and
that
language
accessibility
component.
B
F
So
right
now,
I'll
start
with
staff.
Currently
MOA
there's
only.
We
only
have
three
members
of
our
team
Karina's
here,
she's
one
of
them
and
then
Lavi,
which
she
oversees
our
human
resources
and
a
lot
of
our
budgeting.
F
So
we
are
currently
down
two
staff
members
program
manager
and
a
policy
director
which
positions
are
posted,
so
please
I,
encourage
anyone
to
share
and
apply.
But
yes,
right
I
mean
the
more
work
that
we
add
to
the
portfolio.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
Distributing
work
adequately
around
along
the
team,
so
I
am
never
going
to
say
no
to
two
more
staff
members.
So,
yes,.
F
Yeah
I
mean
because
even
if
we
partner
with
a
non-profit
or
another
organization,
who's
already
doing
this
work,
for
example
like
lebria
Menzies,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
compensating
for
their
time
and
for
the
work
and
for
the
resources
and
also
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
elevating
them
I
mean
these
organizations
are
doing
work
and
it's
also
costing
them
money
and
costing
them
time.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
also
uplifting
them
and
also
supporting
them
financially,
as
well.
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
again
for
being
here
what
I'll
just
say
from
this
conversation,
whatever.
What
I've
gotten
is
that
this
conversation
exemplifies
the
importance
of
dreaming
big,
but
how
incremental
change
can
can
be
effective
right,
we're
all
pushing
for
this
pilot
program.
I,
think
this
pilot
program
is
going
to
be
the
vehicle
to
actually
get
something
incredible
done
here
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
so
from
there
I
think
there
will
be
an
argument
once
we
do
this
pilot
program
and
it's
successful.
B
The
argument
is
there
for
more
resources
and
investment
and
I
think
that
that
could
really
be
powerful,
and
then,
at
that
point,
once
we
have
resources
and
investment,
we
can
partner
effectively
with
love
your
menses
Sasha
for
Moscow
and
some
other
folks
to
continue
this,
and
so
that's
really
the
goal,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
just
thank
you
for
the
conversation
and
and
your
work
already
on
this,
and
there
is
much
work
to
be
done
right,
but
we're
in
it
with
you.
Thank.
F
You
so
much
and
I
appreciate
just
having
this
conversation
and
the
partners
Sasha,
and
it's
now
and
Libby
Menses
for
already
supporting
MOA
in
this
work
and
I.
Think
even
the
smaller
conversations
are
very
important
and
anyone
ever
needs
mental
products.
We
always
have
some
upstairs
and
well
so.
D
C
D
C
D
Oh
just
have
a
quick
Edition
I
want
to
upload
for
cancer.
Colada
said
like
we
have.
You
have
our
full
support.
We
want
to
be
in
this
work
with
you
in
Partnership
for
this
pilot
program
so,
and
just
really
also
just
Overjoyed
it.
Here.
You
talk
about
compensating
our
non-profits
that
are
really
doing
the
work.
It
is
essential
that
we
are
not
just
being
extractive
and
depending
on
Free
Labor
I
I
wanted
to
uplift
I
think
when
Council
Murphy
started
mentioning.
D
You
know
we
also
have
now
I'm,
like
just
you
know,
putting
out
everything.
That's
been
in
my
head
that
I've
heard
about
that
tangential
even
relates,
but
adult
diapers
being
an
issue,
hygiene
products
and
really
centering
our
schools.
In
the
conversation,
a
lot
of
our
schools
have
these
organizations
that
give
out
clothing
to
our
school,
to
our
students
like
Katie's
closet,
but
even
they're,
not
in
every
school
and
they're.
Recognizing
that
a
big
deficit
actually
is
in
the
hygiene
products
is
in
Metro
products
for
your
kids.
D
So
it's
good
to
know
that
BPS
is
part
of
this
discussion
and
there
are
non-profits
in
BPS
that
are
doing
some
of
this
work,
but
that
really
need
that
further
assistance
and
how
and
how
we're
providing
menstrual
and
hygienic
products
to
our
families,
because
it's
not
just
the
students
who
are
you
know
going
in
and
grabbing
clothes.
D
It's
a
families
too,
and
so,
if
we're
able
to
think
holistically
about
how
we're
able
to
provide
hygienic
and
menstrual
products
to
our
families
and
our
young
people
in
schools,
but
also
work
with
non-profits
that
are
trying
to
address
this
issue
with
new
arrivals
again
with
the
English.
You
know,
of
course,
to
be
thinking
about
what
education
looks
like
in
different
languages.
I
think
there's
an
incredible
role
that
a
gap
that
MOA
could
stand
in
when
it
comes
to.
D
You
know
I've
heard
about
it
from
women
veterans
who
talk
about
the
need
for
us
to
be
providing
more
adult,
Adult
Diapers.
So
just
you
know,
there's
there's
a
gap
and
it's
a
big
one
and
there's
so
much
potential
from
for
Moya,
not
Moya,
MOA
too
many
acronyms,
but
in
Partnership.
Sometimes.
B
D
The
mayor's
office
of
immigrant
advancement,
so
when
we're
talking
about
new
arrivals,
that's
for
that
partnership
to
be
a
deep
one
to
really
be
meeting
the
needs
of
of
of
people
who
are
often
forgotten.
So
thank
you
for
your
working,
your
advocacy
and
I
look
forward
to
this
to
continuing
this
conversation.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
in
I
Echo
their
statements
about
making
sure
that
we're
helping
the
champion
whatever
work
you
are
doing
and
whatever
the
resource
is
required
to
do
that
are,
and
so
please
do
get
that
stuff
to
us,
because
it's
a
thing
where
we
end
up
having
the
city
departments
come
before
us
and
say:
oh
well,
we
might
need
more
money
here.
We
might
need
more
money
there
and
then
we
say:
okay
great.
G
A
H
Murphy
and
thank
you
all
the
members
of
the
city
council
for
making
today
happen.
This
is
a
very
historic
moment
to
be
talking
about
periods
in
the
city,
Chamber
and
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here.
My
name
is
Sasha
good
friend
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
mass
now
the
Massachusetts
chapter
of
the
National
Organization
for
Women,
an
organization
that
has
been
building
intersectional
feminism
in
the
Commonwealth
for
over
50
years.
H
This
stock
is
zero.
One
four
eight
for
a
hearing
regarding
contraception
and
menstrual
product
vending
machines
in
the
city
is
an
Innovative
strategy
to
address
contraceptive
deserts
and
people
experiencing
period
poverty
and
in
the
wake
of
the
Supreme
Court's
decision
over
ruling,
both
Roe
v
Wade
and
Planned
Parenthood
versus
Casey.
We
have
to
be
more
Vigilant
than
ever.
In
looking
inwards
at
what
we
could
do
on
the
local
level
to
make
sure
everyone
truly
has
the
power
to
decide
if,
when
and
under
what
circumstances,
to
get
pregnant,
but
I
don't
think.
H
I
was
asked
to
come
here
today
to
talk
about
contraceptives
which
has
been
talked
about
a
lot
of
times
in
this
hearing
room
it's
to
talk
about
period,
poverty
and
we've
talked
a
lot
already
about
the
shame
and
silence
that
has
contributed
to
this
being
something
that
hasn't
been
talked
about.
So
I
just
want
to
explicitly
think
once
again:
counselors
Coletta,
illusion
and
REO
for
bringing
this
hearing
together
today.
H
So
if
period,
poverty
is
a
new
term
for
anyone.
Listening
I
want
to
share
some
of
the
stories
that
we've
heard
from
menstruators
all
over
the
state
that
might
ring
true,
as
relatable
we've
heard
stories
from
young
people
and
people
of
all
ages,
who
thought
they
were
dying
when
they
got
their
period.
For
the
first
time,
I
mean
we've
heard
stories
from
people
who
didn't
have
an
adult
to
talk
to
and
in
some
cases
have
even
tried
to
take
their
own
life
because
they
didn't
have
that
education
around
their
menstrual
health.
H
We've
heard
stories
from
low-income
and
homeless
or
unhoused
menstruators
who've
used
unhygienic
substitutes
instead
of
menstrual
products,
and
this
has
contributed
to
numerous
reproductive
health
challenges
along
the
way
which
can
be
fun
can
be
confirmed
by
medical
professionals
that
we've
heard
from
as
well
we've
heard
from
people
who
have
heavy
flows.
They're
bleed
a
lot
and
panty
liners
don't
cut
it,
and
so
we
know
that
when
we're
talking
about
how
to
meet
the
need
of
all
menstruators,
we
have
to
be
talking
about
people
with
all
sorts
of
menstruating
experiences.
H
And,
of
course,
we've
heard
from
anyone.
Who's
experiencing
poverty
or
who
is
low
income
is
experiencing
period
poverty.
These
are
silent,
undisclosed
choices.
People
are
forced
to
make
in
choosing
between
buying
food,
paying,
rent
and
buying
menstrual
products.
This
is
what
period
Poverty
Looks
like
and
with
all
issues
of
poverty.
H
So
we
partnered
with
the
sheriffs
around
the
state
we
partnered
with
the
Massachusetts
Coalition
for
the
homeless
and
the
Department
of
Public
Health
to
survey
School
nurses,
all
of
the
sheriffs
and
homeless,
shelters
about
what
the
state
of
access
was,
and
we
found
that
over
half
of
the
shelters
were
relying
on
donations
and
access.
The
mental
products
should
not
be
at
the
Winds
of
Charity
and
a
quarter
of
the
shelters
that
we
surveyed
across
the
state
didn't
have
access
to
menstrual
products
at
all
the
same
year.
H
We
of
course
introduced
the
I
am
bill
which
would
make
products
free
in
schools,
prisons
and
shelters,
and
today
that
Coalition,
that
is
working
to
pass,
the
I
am
bill,
has
grown
to
over
400
activists,
Statewide
and
70
organizations.
Last
session,
the
bill
passed
the
Senate
unanimously
bipartisan,
but
we're
now
at
a
third
legislative
session
where
we
need
to
make
sure
periods
are
at
the
front
of
people's
minds
around
the
policy
decision
making
table
and
not
a
new
Fringe
issue.
So
I'm
thankful
that
this
is
a
part
of
that
conversation.
H
So
we're
not
the
first
second
or
third
to
be
considering
this
here
in
Massachusetts.
Also
I
think
it's
important
to
know
that
Boston
is
the
only
city
in
Massachusetts
or
that
I've
heard
of
around
the
country
that
models
menstrual
product,
Distribution
off
of
condom
distribution
and
I.
Think
anyone
who
has
menstruated
knows
that
there
is
not
the
same
need
for
menstrual
products
as
there
is
for
Condoms.
H
You
don't
know
when
you're
getting
your
period,
it
happens
every
month
and
you
can
plan
a
little
bit
more
for
access
to
condoms
and
so
I
think
that
conflating
menstrual
product
distribution
with
condoms.
Actually
contributes
to
the
shame
and
stigma
and
sexualization
around
period
products
which
we
are
actually
trying
to
avoid,
and
this
is
not
the
fault
of
any
one
individual.
This
is
a
systemic
issue
that
we've
all
inherited
that
we
need
to
be
addressing
in
all
levels
of
government.
H
So
quality
of
products
is
really
important
because
they
go
directly
into
your
bloodline
and
if
we
can
do
the
comprehensive
analysis
during
the
procurement
process
to
make
sure
that
those
small
and
growing
businesses
are
already
vendors
with
the
city
of
Boston,
that
would
go
a
long
way
towards
meeting
all
menstruators
needs.
So
thank
you.
So
much.
B
Thank
you
so
much
Sasha
I
am
just
blown
away
by
your
work.
You
really
have
mobilized
the
entire
state
or
excuse
me,
the
entire
Commonwealth
around
this
issue
and
I.
Remember
you
and
I
talking
about
this
in
2018
and
it
really
being
a
fringe
issue,
but
you've
bought
it
to
the
to
the
Forefront
of
public
discussion.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
efforts
and
obviously
you
know
we
we
had
asked
love
your
menses
to
be
here,
lead
a
health,
dignity
matters
and,
and
unfortunately
they
could
not
make
it.
B
You
mentioned
that
the
you
you
did
a
survey
with
School
nurses,
shelters
and
prisons,
and
this
is
where
you
found
out
over
half
of
the
shelters
were
dependent
on
charity.
Do
you
have
any
information
or
data
about
where
they
were
getting
these
donations
from
and
how
they
were
sustaining
those
Partnerships
and
relationships.
H
That's
a
great
question:
we
didn't
really
do
granola
detail
to
find
out
where
their
Partners
were,
but
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
student
universities.
There
are
over
30
period
Chapters
at
universities
that
do
product
drives
always
and
Tampax
are,
of
course,
big
Procter
Gamble
companies
that
are
happy
to
send
out
their
products
and
also
brings
up
the
challenge
of
where
are
we
getting
our
products
from
and
what
quality
products
are
being
donated?
H
Dignity
matters
has
done
an
incredible
job
of
creating
their
own
menstrual
products
in
order
to
make
the
cost
more
efficient
and
do
donations
I
believe
it's
a
dollar
a
person
a
year
on
average,
so
I
think
that
the
landscape
has
also
changed
a
lot
since
2019,
because
during
the
pandemic
there
was
Federal
funding
that
was
available
for
shelters.
That
was
temporary,
that
allowed
them
to
stockpile
on
menstrual
products.
C
B
And
thank
you
for
letting
us
know
about
the
the
partnership
with
Fall,
River
and
New
Bedford,
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
model
that
partnership.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
generally
about
it,
how
it
came
to
be
what
you're
exactly
doing
with
them?
I
know
you
talked
about
the
snap
and
WIC
office
and
DCF,
and
all
of
that,
but
can
you
just
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
those
Partnerships
with
those
municipalities.
H
Yes,
last
year,
we
created
an
advisory
council
with
Liaisons
from
the
community
organizations
that
were
serving
the
people.
We
wanted
to
be
centering,
so
that
was
people
who
were
working
in
DCF
offices,
Wix,
snap,
homeless,
shelters
after
school
programs,
and
we
used
them
to
help
us
recruit
people
to
do
focus
groups
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
were
getting
products
that
people
actually
wanted.
H
We
were
getting
a
sense
of
if
people
were
already
receiving
menstruation
education
and
we
were
hearing
from
young
people,
especially
about
the
decision
to
stay
home
instead
of
going
to
school,
and
what
making
a
comfortable
School
environment
would
look
like
in
order
for
them
to
have
feel
comfortable.
Getting
access
to
menstrual
products,
and
a
lot
of
students
talked
about
being
scared
to
ask
permission
to
go
to
the
nurse's
office
being
yelled
at
by
the
school
nurse
being
charged
quarters
by
the
school
nurse
for
menstrual
products
and
flat
out.
H
We
also
were
able
to
donate
a
product
from
on
flow
in
order
to
distribute
them
to
all
those
sites.
What
was
really
great
was
that
in
Fall
River
after
we
got
the
grant,
we
had
applied
for
the
grant
with
them
and
before
we
received
the
award,
they
had
enough
conversations
to
decide
at
the
superintendent
level.
H
They
were
going
to
make
this
a
policy
to
implement
free
products
in
all
of
their
bathrooms:
middle
school,
high
school,
elementary
school,
gender,
neutral
bathrooms
in
Fall,
River
and
New
Bedford
did
the
exact
same
thing
because
they
all
live
and
talk
working
next
to
each
other
and
got
jealous
of
the
free
access
to
menstrual
products,
and
so
that
became
a
policy
at
the
New
Bedford
City
level,
as
well
proactively
this
year.
What
is
exciting
and
different
about
the
grant?
Is
that
not
only
are
we
able
to
double
the
amount
of
Community
Partners?
H
Quite
frankly,
at
this
point
we
don't
feel
like.
We
need
more
data.
We
already
know
what
the
problem
looks
like
and
we
already
know
what
the
costs
look
like.
The
work
now
is
to
make
this
systemically
sustainable
and
so
we're
working
to
train
Youth
and
adult
organizers,
local
to
Fall,
River
and
New
Bedford
on
our
menstrual
Health
trainings.
Last
year,
we
partnered
with
love
your
menses
to
do
these
trainings
and
this
year
we're
doing
the
trainings
ourselves
with
the
curriculum
that
we
have
evaluations
for
and
next
year.
H
The
organizers
that
we
train
will
do
the
trainings
themselves
in
the
organizations
that
they're
already
working
with
this
is
because
education
in
schools
is
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
health
education
to
standardize.
But
we
know
that
community
centers
is
where
people
are
so
we're
meeting
people
there.
B
I
do
think
that
they're
an
important
voice
in
this
conversation,
and
so
thinking
about
our
budget
process,
not
only
trying
to
get
some
more
money
for
Moa,
but
when
bphc
is
here,
this
is
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
talking
about
this
and
asking
them
on
their
priority
list,
because
there's
there's
many
public
health
issues
that
we're
dealing
with
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
in
addition
to
covid,
but
this
should
really
be
high
up
on
their
priority
list
and
how
they're
utilizing
their
budget
to
invest
in
in
breaking
down
barriers
and
providing
access
to
these
to
these
products.
B
So
it
sounds
like
in
Fall
River
and
in
New
Bedford.
You
really
were
working
hand
in
glove
with
the
school
system
and
the
superintendent
is
that
correct?
Okay,.
H
Kids,
the
school
committee
had
Advocates
who
were
working
with
the
new
superintendent
last
year,
who
the
issue
ring
through
immediately
for
her
that's
great.
B
You're,
giving
us
ideas
you're,
giving
me
ideas,
maybe
next
time
in
this
conversation,
we'll
have
BPS
here
to
discuss
it,
because
there
was
that
one-time
hundred
thousand
dollar
investment,
but
that
was
FY,
20.
and
fy20.
We
all
know
what
happened
things.
B
Priority
shifted
and
so
I
would
like
to
know
the
success
of
that
program
through
BPS
and
what
the
appetite
is
is
to
expand
it
and
figure
out
how
we
can
model
whatever
is
happening
in
Fall
River
to
happen
here
in
in
the
city
of
Boston
in
all
BPS
schools,
I
think
that's
a
moral
and
Civic
obligation
that
we
have
to
our
kids
to
provide
these
products,
but
then
using
that
as
a
model
to
expand
it
to
public
buildings
and
help
what
Alex
is
doing
in
the
Moa
office.
B
So
just
thank
you
for
letting
us
know
about
that
and
you're
already
giving
us
things
to
to
Think
Through
the
last
question
that
I'll
have
and
then
I'll
pass
it
to
my.
My
colleagues
is
if,
if
you
could
have
a
magic
wand
and
I
know,
this
is
kind
of
a
little
question,
but
I
guess:
well,
let
me
reframe
it.
B
What
opportunities
do
you
see
in
the
city
of
Boston?
Is
there
anything
additional
that
you
would
add
to
this
conversation
that
we
haven't
discussed
yet
because
you
are
in
this
work
every
single
day,
you
see
the
gaps,
you
see
the
opportunities.
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
should
be
looking
at
or
considering
as
we
move
forward
in
this
work.
H
I
think
in
my
ideal,
world
I
would
love
to
see
the
city
make
this
a
priority
to
end
period.
Poverty
throughout
the
whole
city.
When
you
work
on
a
bulk
scale
like
with
any
business
or
product
procurement,
you'll
be
able
to
get
the
products
cheaper
and
you'll
you'll
be
able
to
get
higher
quality
products
cheaper
when
it's
so
local
and
each
school
is
doing
their
own
research
to
find
out
which
product
is
best
for
them.
H
If,
with
a
comprehensive
approach,
we're
then
looking
at
sized
products
that
will
have
variety
for
everyone,
because,
like
I
said
before
not
everyone
leads
the
same
amount
and
has
the
same
experience
bleeding,
and
so,
if
you're,
giving
only
panty
liners
to
people,
that's
not
going
to
cut
it
in
terms
of
bleeding
through
the
liner
and
then
bleeding
onto
the
clothes
and
then
bleeding
onto
the
chairs
yeah.
H
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
in
response
to
what
you
were
just
saying
before
about
PPS.
Is
that
there's
a
product
there's
the
cost
of
the
dispensers.
This
is
a
one-time
cost.
It's
not
an
every
year
cost
people
want
stainless
steel
quality
dispensers
that
can't
be
ripped
off
the
wall,
so
that
is
going
to
be
a
capital
expense.
H
The
operational
expense
of
menstrual
products
is
Tiny
in
comparison,
because
the
use
is
often
less
than
the
budget
we're
not
seeing
that
we're
providing
products
for
every
menstruator's
entire
cycle,
and
so
that's,
usually
a
happier
sticker
price
in
BPS.
What's
different
than
Fall
River
is
that
the
janitors
contracts
don't
already
include
changing
menstrual
product
dispensers
and
that
sticker
price
might
be
more
than
the
other
two
combined
somehow
janitors
and
other
cities
haven't
mentioned
that
as
a
problem,
but
it
is
a
problem
in
Boston.
So
that's
a
separate
line
item
perhaps.
B
Thank
you
for
for
elevating
that
and
uplifting
that
that's
something
I
did
not
know.
I
think
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
D
D
My
first
question
is
like
maybe
a
little
like
spicy,
but
like
can
you
tell
us
why
I
hate
so
I
I
stated
previously
that
we're
not
the
first
but
I
didn't
know
that
but
like
we
were
so
far
from
not
being
the
first
right
like
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
states
in
front
of
us
and
a
lot
of
cities?
Why
like?
Why
has
it
been
so
hard?
Why
is
this
not
common
sense?
D
Why
are
we
allowing
other
cities
and
states
to
get
it
right,
like
I
have
the
same
question
about
same
day,
voter
registration
like?
Why
are
we
allowing
ourselves
a
state
with
where
we
have
alleged
Progressive
values
where
we
want
to
care
about
everyone?
Why
is
it
so
hard
for
us
to
get
basic
fundamental
things
right.
H
Great
question
I
think
when
we're
looking
at
spaces
leaderships
that
are
predominantly
people
who
have
never
menstruated.
That
is
usually
my
first
answer.
It's
not
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
when
you
think
of
poverty.
Food
insecurity
is
also
shout
out
to
the
food
bank,
which
would
be
a
great
partner
for
Distributing
this
as
a
dry
good,
and
when
we
are
looking
at
leadership,
that
is
predominantly
people
who
have
menstruated.
H
Perhaps
it
is
the
internalized
misogyny
of
shame
that
is
still
really
uncommon
to
talk
about
periods
in
a
public
space,
and
so
we
have
all
of
that
to
come
back
and
counter
and
make
sure
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
we're
thinking
about
what
our
priorities
are,
that
periods
are
the
first
thing
that
come
to
mind.
This
is
like
hundreds
of
years
that
have
never
been
discussed,
and
so
once
the
conversation
starts,
it
keeps
flowing
as
we
like
to
say:
I
love
it
because
let
it
flow
it's
so
relatable.
H
If
I
was
in
a
room
with
perhaps
a
lot
more
people
and
I
said
who
raise
your
hand,
has
gotten
your
period
without
expecting
it.
Everyone
would
be
raising
their
hand,
but
who
has
talked
about
that?
Probably
never
and
when
we're
in
a
woman-centered
space
Maybe,
we
feel
more
comfortable,
but
then
as
soon
as
you're,
in
a
co-ed
space
or
talking
to
other
people,
all
the
shame
and
stigma
comes
back
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
talking
about
it
and
I
would
also
just
say.
Government
and
in
general,
is
complicated
and
bureaucratic.
H
They
could
come
up
with
the
cost
analysis
themselves.
They
already
know
how
many
bathrooms
they
have.
They
know
what
they're
janitors
contracts
look
like
and
we
could
I
would
love
to
see
that
work
being
done
on
the
municipal
level
so
that
when
we
have
the
stakeholders
all
coming
together,
we're
able
to
hit
the
ground
running.
D
Awesome
well,
thank
you
that
was
a
diplomatic
cancer
and
fire,
but
also
a
really
insightful
one,
especially
for
what
we
can
do.
I
mean,
and
we
are
constantly
in
conversation
with
State
partners
and
your
right
to
Cabinet,
Chiefs
and
so
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
we
take
that
as
action
steps
and
so
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
D
You
also
talked
about
the
types
of
products
and
how
we
can
be
intentional
in
the
procurement
process
about
what
are
the
best
types
of
products
for
menstruating
people,
depending
on
their
the
flow
of
their
period
depending
on
like
if
they,
what
what
they
prefer
to
use-
and
you
talk
about
the
environmental
like
so
so.
There's
an
environmental
angle
here
and
I'm
not
asking
you
to
be
in
a
walking
advertisement
for
a
type
of
product.
D
But
if
there
are
you
know,
what
do
you
think
is
when
we're
thinking
about
putting
our
both
our
environmental
hat
on
our
Equity
hat
on
important
for
us
to
do
both
at
the
same
time?
What
are
the
products
that
we
should
be
trying
to
put
into
our
public
spaces
and
what
work
do
we
have
to
do
because
oftentimes,
the
best
products
right
that
takes
into
account
the
environment
and
that
takes
into
account
A,
Woman's
Health?
This
is
something
that
we
are.
Some
of
us
are
inserting
into
our
Bloodlines
into
our
bodies.
D
What
are
the
best
products
that
we
should
be
aiming
for
in
procurement?
Also
I
mean
just
shout
out
to
share
some
information
with
us,
but
also
there's
probably
work
there
to
disassociate
some
of
the
brands
that
we
know
and
products
that
we
know
from
what
is
actually
the
best
for
us
from
like
a
health
perspective
from
an
environmental
perspective.
So
just
wanted
you
to
dive
a
bit
deeper
on
that.
H
I
think
in
an
Ideal
World
we
would
not
go
with
the
always
and
Tampax
company,
for
example,
because
I
think
that,
from
a
anti-capitalist
perspective,
they
are
probably
contributing
to
poverty
in
the
big
scheme.
More
than
some
of
the
newer
companies
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
work
with
Viv
for
your
V
was
started
just
three
years
ago
by
a
BC
grad,
which
is
younger
than
me
and
she's
incredible.
H
These
are
the
only
products
I
know
of
that
are
biodegradable,
which
is
what
we
want
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
they're
not
in
landfills
and
I'm
sure,
because
they're
biodegradable
they're,
probably
not
the
cheapest.
Yet
you
know
it's
a
new
company,
but
I
think
that
there
could
be
an
opportunity
with
a
contract
as
big
as
the
city
of
Boston,
to
think
about
what
I
would
love
to
see.
What
that
looks
like
they're,
focusing
on
tampons
and
pads
and
I
believe
they
have
cups
right
now.
H
H
On
flow
is
probably
the
most
popular
menstrual
product
distributor
around
the
country.
They
work
with
probably
the
most
amount
of
schools
around
the
country,
school
systems,
and
so
they
also
have
probably
one
of
the
more
competitive
prices
for
secure
dispensers,
but
they
have
little
Variety
in
the
types
of
products,
so
they're
Mass,
producing
tampons
and
pads
and
in
the
short
term
you
know,
that's
probably
what
most
people
want
and
are
most
familiar
with.
H
We've
heard
that
you
know
cups
could
be
great
not
only
from
the
environmental
perspective
perspective,
but
also
for
people
who
are
unhoused,
because
they
that's
one
product
for
the
whole
year
and
if
you're
going
through
lots
of
different
places.
That
can
be
great,
but
it
takes
a
lot.
It
takes
some
education.
It
can
be
pretty
intimidating
to
use
a
new
product.
That's
in
what
might
be
a
sensitive
area,
so
we
need
to
do
in
education
in
order
to
make
sure
that
people
are
comfortable
with
products
before
assuming
that
that's
what
they
will
want.
H
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Sasha
I,
like
counselor
Coletta,
stated
just
you've
been
in
it's
so
apparent,
you've
been
in
the
game
and
that
this
is
the
work
that
we
are
happy
that
you're
the
one
leading
in,
and
so
many
other
organizations
and
like
I,
said
I.
D
Take
that
as
a
charge
to
me
and
my
personal
and
professional
capacity
to
be
doing
the
work
of
de-stigma
destigmatization
and
just
appreciate
the
work
and
the
potential
of
what
we
can
do
here
through
a
pilot
program
and
with
our
partners
and
a
commitment
to
be
putting
periods
first,
I
won't
make
upon.
G
Thank
you
gonna
echo,
my
colleagues
on
thanking
you
for
sort
of
the
very
informative
overview
of
a
number
of
different
things.
G
Some
of
what
I
was
gonna
ask
has
already
been
asked,
because
I
have
great
colleagues,
but
I
was
put
in
charge
of
sort
of
the
shopping
for
me
and
my
loved
one
over
the
pandemic
and
I
am
a
like
Infamous
googler
of
what
I'm
purchasing,
and
so
when
I
had
to
purchase
period,
products
I
said
well,
let
me
just
see
what
the
best
one
is
right.
G
I
didn't
know
what
she
used
normally,
but
I
was
just
looking
through
it
and
it
was
pretty
stunning
to
find
out
just
how
many
toxic
materials
go
into
the
menstrual
products
and
period
products
and
I.
Remember
just
being
like
did
you
know
any
of
this,
and
it
was
actually
not
something
she
had
been
made
aware
of,
but
it
was
also.
G
There
was
a
wild
fluctuation
about
similar
to
like
organic
food
as
to
non-organic
Foods,
as
than
what
the
price
points
were
for
the
different
change,
and
that
was
a
process
there,
where
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
what
product
made
the
most
sense
to
get
away
from
toxic
products.
But
there
was
a
comfort
factor
to
that
as
well
and
I.
G
G
They
also
are
usually
able
to
undercut
on
pricing,
but
this
is
one
of
those
instances
where
I
think,
if
we're
doing
a
pilot
program
at
this
scale,
I
think
you
know
we
were
talking
about
twenty
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
the
city
in
terms
of
what
they
Contracting,
what
they
budget.
That's
really
not
a
whole
lot,
and
so
in
this
instance
I
guess.
My
question
would
be
and
you've
sort
of
spoken
on
sort
of
always
and
other
brands
that
we
should
try
to
avoid.
G
But
this
is
a
specific
one
where
we
were
sort
of
talking
about
a
pilot
where
they
can
grow
as
the
pilot
grows,
and
so
are
there
any
other
sort
of
Brands
and
or
specific
things
to
look
out
for
from
the
toxicity
for
health
standpoint
so
I
know,
there's
an
environment
concern,
but
you
know
for
me:
I'll
be
honest
when
I
was
looking
at
this,
it
wasn't
like
I
cared
much
about
the
water
I
cared
about
my
partner's
Health
like
way
more
and
that
wasn't
even
close,
and
so
from
the
standpoint
of
brands
that
really
specialize
in
taking
care
of
the
product
and
what
you're
putting
into
your
body.
G
The
least
beneficial
products,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
are
trying
to
sort
of
create
this
program,
which
we
are
from
sort
of
the
ground
up,
that
we
are
starting
from
a
healthy
Foundation
of
what
products
we're
putting
into
our
our
system.
So
I
know
that
Rusty
asked
you
sort
of
for
some
of
them.
Is
there
were
some
really
great
local
ones?
Are
there
any
sort
of
bigger
non-local
ones
that
do
the
right
thing,
because
I
also
think
for
folks
who,
who
sort
of
vote
with
their
pocketbooks?
G
It
would
be
a
good
moment
just
from
an
educational
standpoint
to
say:
hey
if
you're
going
to
a
local
store
and
you're
looking
at
them.
These
are
brands
that
sort
of
do
the
right
thing.
You
don't
have
to
necessarily
call
the
ones
that
don't
but
you're
welcome
to
do
them
as
well,
I'm
good
with
that
too.
H
Is
other
than
I?
Think
pads
in
the
role
is
really
interesting,
because
you
don't
need
to
install
a
new
dispenser
so
for
a
low-cost
solution.
You
can
use
the
the
role
that
the
toilet
paper
is
on
to
also
put
the
pads
on
a
roll.
I
probably
should
have
brought
them
for
a
visual
in
case
it's
confusing,
but
they're
they're
covered
in
their
plastic
case
and
they're
perforated
and
and
it's
on
a
roll
like
toilet
paper.
H
And
but
they're
only
pads,
I
think
the
other.
Maybe
you
think,
though,
that's
making
me
think
of
is
period
pain
and
especially
when
we're
looking
at
a
period.
What
we
know
about
period
pain
is
that
women
of
color
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
endometriosis
and
PCOS
and
they're,
also
under
diagnosed,
and
so
with
all
of
this
new
talk
of
period,
poverty
and
taking
away
the
period
tax.
H
It's
also
brought
attention
to
the
period
pain
that
so
many
people
experience
and
how
is
it
that
in
2013
23,
the
best
recommendation
people
have
for
dealing
with
period
pain
is
Advil
which
was
never
made
to
handle
period
pain.
But
there
is
new
innovation,
new,
innovative
solutions
that
healthcare
companies
are
coming
up
with
to
have
droplets
and
vitamins
that
respond
to
the
hormone
levels
that
are
actually
changing
during
menstruation,
so
that
there
could
be
more
holistic
ways
to
addressing
that.
H
So
I
would
love
to
see
the
city's
public
health
committee
also
take
up
how
we
can
provide
more
Health
Solutions
to
people
being
able
to
diagnose
themselves
with
the
medical
professional
earlier
and
have
access
to
their
life
again,
because
those
people
are
missing.
School
they're
missing,
work,
they're,
often
not
able
to
get
out
of
bed
for
a
week
every
single
month,
and
that's
really
debilitating
and
I.
Think
I
would
love
to
see
Boston
as
a
home
to
the
health
and
Tech
hubs
of
the
world.
Invest
putting
that
medication
real
medication.
G
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
I
think
that's
something
we
could
mix
into
a
vending
machine
sort
of
idea
of
putting
that
all
together.
I,
don't
know
you
know
in
terms
of
what
you're,
speaking
to
directly
I've,
had
multiple
nieces,
different
nieces,
who
have
had
to
actually
be
hospitalized
due
to
their
period
and
and
complications
with
it,
and
there
was
like
really
scary
experiences
for
both
of
them
and
so
from
the
standpoint
of
how
we
can
prioritize
not
just
product
but
the
medication
specifically
to
like
these
things.
G
I
think,
if
that's
another
thing
that
we
can
incorporate
into
this,
that
would
be
a
great
step
forward
in
both
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
is
interesting
to
me
as
sort
of
a
man
who
is
used
to
having
like
man,
colds
and
being
very
vocal
about
when
I'm
in
pain
or
sick,
is
the
level
that
those
around
me
that
are
women
have
gone
to
not
show
how
much
pain
they
are
in
or
how
they
are
feeling
because
of
stigma
to
that,
and
so
anything
we
can
do
to
put
medication
front
and
center.
G
G
I
think
having
us
put
medication
or
anything
like
that
into
something
that
is
equally
accessible,
is
really
smart,
and
so
whatever
we
have
in
terms
of
that
for
for
Branding
or
for
specialized
product
I,
think
that's
something
that,
if
you
don't
have
it
now,
but
I
think
it's
be
a
great
idea
for
us
to
roll
into
this
pilot
and
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
G
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and
thank
you
again
to
my
colleagues
for
asking
great
questions.
A
few
things.
You
said
that
just
stuck
out
that
I
wanna
highlight-
and
it
seems
to
be
the
theme
too,
about
the
education
right
and
I
know
as
a
mom
of
four
children.
A
One
daughter
that
and
I
grew
up
in
a
family
where
you
educate
everyone,
not
just
the
girl,
so
I
feel
like
that
was
fortunate,
because
I
know
many
of
my
friends
and
others
I
hear
now
like
just
it
wasn't
what
we
did
growing
up
in
an
Irish
Catholic
household.
It
was
probably
it
seemed
a
little
crazy
to
me,
but
it
was
just
Tau
and
now
I
look
back
and
think.
Well,
that's
how
it
should
be,
and
you
know
myself
in
high
school
and
as
a
teacher
for
over
you
know,
20
years.
A
Knowing
that
shame,
when
girls
feel
like
they
have
to
you
know
where
am
I
going
to
put
my
pad
or
tampon,
if
I
have
to
get
up
and
do
people
know-
and
we
know
that
at
all
ages,
not
just
Teenage
ages,
that
you
know
you
think
people
are
looking
even
though
they
may
not
be,
and
that
can
just
cause.
A
lot
of
you
know
stress
mental
health,
which
brings
me
to
that
idea
of
you
know
we're
talking
a
lot
in
one
of
the
things.
A
One
of
the
reasons
I
ran
for
office
right,
but
we
talk
a
lot
on
this
Council
about
advocating
for
more
mental
health
supports
and
when
we're
tying
it
into
the
budget.
You
know
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars
per
student
spent
if
we
just
put
ten
dollars
per
student
in
that
budget
of
one
point,
we
have
like
1.5
billion
dollars.
A
If
ten
dollars
per
student,
which
we
may
not
even
need
that
much
we
you
know,
we'd
have
half
a
million
dollars
to
make
sure
that
every
school
across
the
system
has
what
they
need
to
provide
our
kids,
our
you
know,
children
who
need
this
also
staff.
Another
thing
I
know
in
buildings:
it's
this.
You
know
the
staff
that
sometimes
needs
that
too,
and
you
know
you
laugh
because
you're
older,
but
it's
like
oh
I,
have
to
now
go.
A
Ask
the
nurse
to
get
the
key
to
go
to
that
weird
closet
in
the
back
of
the
principal's
office
to
like
open
some
stash,
which
then
reminded
me,
you
know
our
nurses
and
I
know
you
tied
in
the
custodians,
so
I
totally
appreciate
contracts
and
change
of
you
know
job
descriptions,
but
we
can
make
it
work
and
I
know
they
would
want
to
make
it
work,
but
they
we
do
have
to
be.
You
know
cognizant
of
that.
A
In
last
week
I
held
a
hearing
on
youth
summer
jobs
and
it
tied
into
nurses,
maybe
being
able
to
help
with
the
working
papers
signing
off
if
they've
already
had
you
know
their
physical
submitted.
So
just
how
do
we
make
government
work
where
it's
easier
in
nurses?
We
do
have
a
budget
that
nurses
buy
Band-Aids
and
aspirin
like
we
just
need
to
put
that
into
their
supply
budget
or
how
we
can
make
it
work.
A
So
I
know
that
the
sponsors
of
this
and
all
of
our
colleagues
will
put
our
heads
together
to
make
sure,
because
this
seems
like
a
something
that
we
should
just
make
happen.
Just
that
other
comment
you
made
about
moving
it
from
the
nurses
or
the
putting
it
in
the
bathrooms
and
I
know
earlier
too
speaking
of
other
public
spaces.
A
But
knowing
that
you
don't
have
to
let
anyone
know
what
you're
doing
or
where
you're
going
you
just
go
and
do
it
and
it's
where
you
need
it
to
be,
and
you
don't
have
to
make
sure
you
brought
it
from
home
or
a
friend
passes
it
across.
You
know
the
table
and
then
maybe
gets
in
trouble,
but
so
definitely
lots
to
talk
about
in
this
always
tying
in
with
the
non-profits.
Some
of
my
best
days
on
this
job
have
been
like
men
to
a
couple
schools
with
Katie's
closet
and
just
thought.
A
It
was
so
amazing
that
we
were
stocking
shelves
with
hygiene
products
that
this
was
something
they
knew
and
the
schools
that
are
fortunate
enough
to
have.
You
know
the
non-profit,
like
that.
That's
most
people
think
it's
just
about
the
clothes
which
is
a
whole
other
social
conversation
we
could
get
into,
but
the
products,
if
it's
you
know
shampoo,
deodorant
toothpaste
but
obviously
also
menstrual
products
are
so
important.
A
So
just
thank
you
for
your
knowledge
and
always
giving
us
ideas
to
go
forward
in
advocating
so
I'd
like
to
just
ask
the
sponsors
if
they
want
to
close
out,
ask
any
other
questions
before
we
see.
I
know
that
we've
checked
there
is
no
Zoom
public
testimony,
but
if
there's
anyone
I
know
no
one
has
signed
up
yet.
But
if
there's
anyone
here
who
wanted
to
testify
before
we
do
closing
statements.
C
A
B
Sure
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everybody.
This
has
been
an
enlightening
conversation.
I
am
surprised
at
how
behind
Boston
is.
B
I'm
in
wealth,
what
there's
21
states
who's
already
done.
This
there's
other
municipalities
in
the
Commonwealth
who
have
made
menstrual
products
free
and
accessible
in
public
schools
and
in
municipal
buildings.
So
we
have
a
lot
to
do
to
actually
realize
and
promote
menstrual
equity.
So
I
did
hear
and
I
always
love
to
summarize
marching
steps
and
and
what
we
learned
in
this
conversation
so
that
we
know
exactly
what
to
do
moving
forward.
B
B
We
obviously
need
to
get
this
pilot
program
off
the
ground,
trying
to
get
women's
advancement,
real
dollar,
Investments
and
resources
to
get
whatever
these
dispensers
look
like
whether
that's
vending
machines,
Boxes
Etc,
utilizing
the
voice
that
we
have
as
a
council
and
our
budgetary
Authority
now
to
move
different
line
items
or
men
line
items
in
the
operating
budget
to
get
her.
Some
more
resources
for
this
pilot
program
and
I
heard
125
000,
give
or
take
maximum
is
what
she
needs.
B
So
I'll
be
thinking
about
that
and
and
prioritizing
that
during
this
process,
I
did
ask
what
it
might
look
like
in
the
interim
to
get
these
project
products
into
the
hands
of
community
and
non-profit
Partners,
and
things
like
Katie's,
closet
and
BPS,
and
so
I
really
look
forward
to
that
follow-up
conversation
that
I've
requested
with
women's
advancement
to
discuss
what
this
procurement
might
look
like
and
and
how
we
can
utilize
the
surplus
of
funds
to
take
immediate
action
into
getting
these
products
out
into
the
hands
of
folks
who
need
it
most
regardless,
though
I
do
love
the
fact
that
in
this
conversation
we
did
talk
about
the
need
to
to
be
intentional
about
identifying
where
these
reproductive
Health
deserts
exist.
B
Ensuring
that
anything
we
do
are
serving
our
most
vulnerable
populations,
low-income
individuals,
immigrant
or
migrant
families,
and
always
putting
them
at
the
center
of
every
single
discussion
and
separately,
just
considering
best
practices
and
thinking
about
large-scale
procurement
right
and
and
how
government
purchasing
could
be
a
statement
of
our
values
so
tying
in
our
climate
and
environmental
goals.
B
Thinking
about
biodegradable
products,
if
we
are
thinking
about
doing
anything
when
it
comes
to
procurement
and
then
supporting
local
startups
and
wmbes,
who
are
doing
this
work,
I
think
that's
really
really
important,
so
I'm
placing
an
emphasis
on
that
in
terms
of
Boston,
public
schools
and
other
municipal
buildings,
thinking
about
the
large-scale
procurement
and
thank
you
so
much
Sasha
for
bringing
up
the
economic
argument
to
this.
It's
cheaper
to
buy
in
bulk.
B
So
that
is
certainly
something
to
consider
when
we're
in
discussion
with
BPS
and
the
equity
lens
on
all
of
this,
having
our
kids
be
able
to
access
these
products
without
going
to
an
adult
and
breaking
down
those
those
stigma.
Barriers
that
shame,
especially
for
our
trans
kids
too,
is
super
important.
So
thank
you
for
uplifting
that
and
the
the
janitor
contracts
were
mentioned
as
well.
B
So
just
moving
forward
in
upcoming
conversations
I
definitely
would
like
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
here,
just
to
talk
more
about
education
and
Health
Solutions
to
identify
reproductive
Health
Care
priorities
whatever's
on
the
docket
for
them
in
the
coming
fiscal
year
and
to
talk
about
health
care,
related
pain
issues
like
endometriosis
I,
hope,
I
said
that
right,
I
have
government,
endometriosis
and
I
would
like
to
just
encourage
everybody
to
consider
and
look
at
what
Spain
did
recently,
which
is
to
have
a
menstrual
office
leave
plan.
B
My
office
instituted
this
last
year,
where
everybody,
men
and
women,
no
matter
what
you
identify
you
get
one
day
it's
a
personal
day
that
is
not
docked
in
the
event
that
you
get
your
period
and
you
are
feeling
some
sort
of
pain,
so
would
encourage
everybody
to
maybe
look
at
that
and
Institute
it
and
then
going
back
to
who
I
would
like
to
have
in
these
conversations.
B
Obviously
Boston
Public
Schools
office
of
health
and
wellness
and
potentially
facilities
to
discuss
what
this
can
look
like
now,
as
we
wait
for
State
legislation
requiring
this
of
all
public
schools.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
my
co-sponsors,
Council
luigien,
always
a
strong
partner
in
this
work
and
strong
champion
of
reproductive
health
care
and
Injustice.
My
colleague
Council
Royal.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
an
ally
in
this
work.
B
D
Thank
you
to
the
sponsor
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue
for
being
centered
in
this
I
am
now
like
even
more
outraged.
D
I
am
upset
at
our
failure
of
leadership
here
in
the
Commonwealth
and
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
so
it's
a
collective
commitment,
I
think
councilor
Coletta
summarized
everything,
and
so
I
don't
have
much
more
to
add,
especially
I'm,
going
to
another
women's
event
where
this
is
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about
I'm,
going
to
just
make
sure
that
all
I
talk
about
is
a
period
poverty
and
period
equity
and
our
failure
to
really
be
leaders
in
this
space,
but
I
will
also
say
thank
you
to
the
administration
because
I
know
oftentimes.
D
Even
if
it's
you
know
the
woman's
office
women's
advancement,
if
it's
their
priority,
there's
so
many
competing
priorities
of
the
administration.
But
our
role
is
to
Center.
What
we
here
is
important.
What
we
know
is
important
and
to
use
Sasha
for
elevating.
You
know
as
a
black
woman,
the
number
of
stories
you
hear,
I
hear
and
I
know
of
folks.
You
know
who
are
suffering
from
endometrial,
endometriosis
and
PCOS
and
fibroids,
and
you
know
we
know
that
when
white
folks
catch
a
cold,
we
catch
pneumonia
and
so
there's
no.
D
It's
no
different
here
when
we're
talking
about
folks
who
are
menstruating
and
we're
talking
about
access
to
products,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
organizations
that
are
really
centered
in
this
work
that
really
Center
black
women
in
this
work,
like
love,
your
menses
and
collab,
counselor,
Colette
I'm
glad
you
took
a
list
of
the
work
we
got
to
do
because
we
got
work
to
do
so.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah
I'll,
just
repeat
thank
you
to
everybody.
Who's
done
work
on
this.
This
is
a
justice
issue
and
is
well
overdue.
I
think
you
know
when
we
see
the
numbers
for
just
how
ridiculously
behind
Boston
is
as
a
major
city
and
Massachusetts
is
a
major
State.
It's
never
usually
in
alignment
with
how
we
perceive
our
own
bureaucracies,
and
so
this
is
something
that
I
would
like
to
see
us
sort
of
escalate
up
the
list
as
quickly
as
possible
for
resources
and
for
getting
this
started.
G
I
want
to
thank
my
co-sponsors
for
their
leadership
on
this
and
our
Advocates
and
volunteers,
and
just
interested
constituents
and
administrative
folks
who
lift
these
things
up
on
a
daily
basis
and
continue
to
do
what
I
considered
to
be
true,
Justice,
work
and
so
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
get
this
done
in
relatively
short
order
and
I
look
forward
to
Future
discussions
and
sort
of
putting
numbers
on
this
and
sort
of
putting
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
on
this,
and
so
I
am
very
excited
about
where
we're
going
from
here
and
I.
G
Think
that
this
hearing,
as
sort
of
an
educational
tool
as
a
laying
out
or
making
a
case
or
an
argument
for
why
this
is
well
overdue,
was
very
successful
in
doing
that,
and
so
I'm
grateful
to
folks
who
gave
their
time
and
their
platform
to
help
make
this
possible.
So
thank
you
to
all
of
you.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors.
I
know
that
this
will
stay
in
committee
because
we're
just
beginning-
and
just
the
conversation
was
great
and
uplifting
that
this
is.
You
know
this
is
a
necessity.
It's
not
an
extra
I.
Think
back
when
my
daughter,
outspoken
in
a
good
way,
but
would
say
hey,
don't
don't
be
putting
menstrual
products
like
in
my
Easter
basket
or
my
Christmas
stocking
those
aren't
like
special.
Those
are
Necessities.
It's
like
feeding
me
right.
So
we
definitely
will
you
put?
A
Don't
you
put
toothpaste,
new
socks
that
well
we
can
talk
later
about
that,
but
it's
it's
not
it's
not
like
you're
gifting,
someone
like
those
like
when
someone
gets
a
nice
shampoo
or
you
know
nice
cologne
they
wanted,
and
then
you
get
a
box
of
tampons,
not
fair,
it's
necessity.
So
thank
you,
for
you
know
continuing
to
uplift
this.
A
We
just
need
to
keep
talking
about
it
and
having
the
conversations
in
spaces
like
this,
where
we
can
make
policy
changes
and
working
alongside
Moya
I
know
when
I
met
with
her
last
week
found
out,
which
I
wasn't
aware
of,
though
that
when
we
added
the
Early
Childhood
Department
in
the
city
of
Boston,
it
really
tore
a
lot
out
of
that
because
it
used
to
fall
under
that
umbrella.
A
So
she
has
a
much
smaller
workflow,
so
I
know
we
advocate
for
lots
of
the
great
departments
across
the
city,
so
I
will
be
and
I
assume,
alongside
my
colleagues
advocating
to
you,
know,
grow
that
department,
so
she
can
help
us
with
that
work
because
that's
where
it's
going
to
come
out
of.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
with
that
this
hearing
is
adjourned.