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Planning, Development, & Transportation - Docket #0342, Order for a hearing to discuss the recovery and revitalization of the taxi industry
A
A
My
name
is
Frank
Baker
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
city's
committee
on
Planning,
Development
and
transportation.
Today,
we're
hearing
docket
zero,
three
four
two:
this
is
a
matter
sponsored
by
Consular,
I,
think
of
consolara.
It
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
Planning
Development
Transportation
on
February,
1st
2023
and
the
docket
summary
is
in
order
for
hearing
to
discuss
the
recovery
and
revitalization
of
the
taxi
industry.
I
want
to
remind
everybody.
This
is
a
public
hearing
of
being
recorded
and
broadcast
live
on,
Xfinity
8,
RCN,
82,
FiOS,
964
and
streamed
on
www.faustin.gov
city-console
dash
TV.
A
Please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
if,
if
there's
anybody
that
wishes
to
testify
public
testimony,
please
sign
over
there
and
we'll
take
that
towards
the
end
of
of
our
hearing
I'm
joined
today
by
the
the
lead
sponsor
Council
hour
again.
Thank
you,
Council
and
council
president
Eddie
Flynn
Council
Lara.
Would
you
like
to
start
with
an
opening
statement.
B
Absolutely
thank
you
so
much
chair
and
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
being
here
today.
I
want
to
extend
my
gratitude
to
my
chair
and
my
co-sponsor
counselor
Baker
and
his
staff
and
Linda
from
the
taxi
Way
Forward
Alliance,
who
my
office
has
been
meeting
with
and
working
with
for
the
last
year,
I'm
glad
that
we
finally
have
some
time
to
sit
at
the
table
and
move
towards
a
result-oriented
conversation
about
what
we
can
do.
B
Now
I'm.
A
big
supporter
of
technology.
I,
understand
that
we
have
to
make
technological
advances
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
way
for
us
to
transition
that
doesn't
disproportionately
harm
our
communities
and
doesn't
disproportionately
harm
an
industry
that
has
been
in
service
to
the
people
of
Boston.
For
so
long.
B
So
today
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
improve,
update
and
modernize
the
Hackney
division
in
relation
to
the
taxi
industry
and
really
having
a
conversation
about
how
the
city
of
Boston
can
really
ensure
that
we're
recognizing
Medallion
owners
as
the
small
businesses
that
they
are
and
make
sure
that
they
have
access
to.
The
small
business
supports
that
we
have
in
the
city
we
expected
to
have
more
members
of
the
administration,
as
some
or
all
of
you
might
not
know.
B
Mel
King's
funeral
is
happening
at
the
same
time
as
this
hearing
and
they
requested
a
lot
of
support
and
a
lot
of
volunteers.
So
a
lot
of
our
cabinet
is
there
at
the
funeral,
so
this
will
not
be
the
last
hearing
and
counselor
Baker
and
I
will
continue
to
work
on
making
this
happen.
But
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
councilor
Baker
and
thank
you
Council
Laura,
both
of
you
working
together
on
this
important
issue
and
I,
think
Council
Laura
said
it
said
it
best.
These
are.
These
are
small.
Many
of
them
are
small
business
owners
in
owned
by
immigrants
owned
by
people
of
color,
and
we
have
to
ask
ourselves:
is
there
a
place
in
Boston
for
them
and
and
I
think
the
answer
has
to
be.
C
Think
I
hope
we're
able
to
show
show
that
to
them
and
I
again
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
Baker
Council
of
our
certainly
certainly
not
a
sexy
issue
supporting
Taxi
Driver
drivers
and
owners.
But
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
I
and
I
commend
my
my
colleagues
for
for
putting
this
hearing
order
forward
and
I
I
support
them
and
I'm
not
going
to
stay
for
the
for
the
hearing.
I
have
another
event:
I
have
to
go
to,
but
whatever
Council,
Laura
and
Council
Baker
decide
I'm
I'm
on
board.
Thank
you.
A
We
know
the
taxi
industry
is
primarily
and
historically
made
up
of
immigrants
and
people
of
color
and
small
and
small
business
and
is
essential
and
is
an
essential
resource
for
elderly
and
the
disabled.
This
sector
needs
better
strategies
and
best
practices
for
drivers
and
Medallion
owners.
Many
individuals
and
taxi
companies
have
also
been
leading
the
charge
using
hybrid
and
electric
vehicles.
A
I
encourage
the
committee
to
further
explore
ways
to
support
this
industry
while
encouraging
environmental
and
Green
Solutions
Council,
routzi,
luigien
and
I
also
have
one
of
those
from
councilor
Aaron
Murphy
DHA
Baker
I'm
writing
to
inform
you
of
my
absence
during
today's
city
council
hearing
on
docket
number
zero,
three
four
two
three.
In
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
the
recovery
and
revitalization
revitalization
of
the
taxi
industry,
a
representative
from
my
staff
will
be
listening
in
and
follow
up
with
me.
A
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
footage
and
following
up
as
need,
be
I
sincerely
regret
that
I
cannot
attend
the
hearing
this
afternoon
as
I
made
prior
commitments.
That
I
must
keep
and
and
and
I
would
just
also
like
to
say
that
I
was
involved
in
this
when
it
was
happening,
originally
went
Uber
and
Lyft
were
kind
of
coming
to
the
scene
when
the
taxi
industry
was
basically
under
attack
and
I.
A
Don't
think
that
we
in
the
city
of
Boston
did
nearly
enough
to
try
and
help
them
all
support
them,
but
I
hope.
Maybe
now
there
is.
There
is
an
opportunity-
maybe
a
business
model,
with
the
with
the
Medallion
sitting
on
the
shelf.
Maybe
there's
a
way
that
we
can
figure
out
how
we
get
more
taxi
owners
medallions
out
on
the
street,
whether
if
it's
through
City,
funded
program
or
whatever,
just
looking
forward
to
ideas
moving
forward
I
know
you
guys
have
presentations.
A
But
I
wanted
someone
in
a
chair
here
today
to
explain
that
to
me
not
to
send
me
a
whole
lot
of
Powerpoints
and
things
with
lists
of
where
the
money
went.
I
wanted
someone
to
energy
to
explain
that
to
me.
So
if
there's
anybody
from
the
administration
here
that
wants
to
do
that.
For
us,
as
the
committee
here
would
like
to
know
what
happened
with
that
money,
if,
in
fact
it
did
go
towards
a
taxi
industry,
the
drivers,
their
families?
A
D
Boston
police
Hackney
on
it,
under
the
direction
of
commissioner
Michael
Cox
committed
to
assisting
the
taxi
cab
industry
in
the
city
of
Boston
to
ensure
another
safe
means
of
travel
for
the
public.
We
regulate
the
Hacked
meat
industry
with
that
first
priority
to
ensure
Public
Safety
in
recent
years
since
the
onset
of
TNC
legislation,
we
found
ourselves
to
not
only
be
the
regular
ladies
of
the
industry,
but
also
advocates
for
the
industry.
D
The
industry
was
once
dominated
by
Medallion
owners
who
owned
and
or
managed
many
medallions,
at
least
a
shifted
taxi
cabs
to
willing
drivers.
However,
as
of
late,
the
predominant
number
of
cabs
on
the
street
are
owner-operated
taxi
cabs,
whose
owners
purchased
them
as
a
means
of
becoming
a
self-employed
small
business
owner.
D
Some
of
the
changes
we
have
made
are
as
follows:
we
changed
the
model
year
from
six
years
to
ten
years.
That's
of
the
vehicles
so
that
they
could
keep
their
vehicles
longer,
provided
that
the
vehicles
meet
Hackney
standards,
so
the
public
weren't
riding
them
unsafe
vehicles.
We
no
longer
require
the
vehicle
to
be
Factory
White.
It
was
in
the
rules,
we
changed
it.
It
didn't
make
sense,
provided
a
painted
white
to
proper
Hackney
standards,
we've
instituted
a
pilot
program
increasing
each
fear
by
a
dollar.
Twenty
is
a
gas
surch.
D
Will
eliminate
the
word
gas
surcharge?
It's
just
going
to
be
the
meter
drop
fee.
It's
a
dollar,
a
dollar
twenty
additional
we've
instituted
a
pilot
program
allowing
electric
vehicles
to
be
utilized
as
taxi
cabs.
This
program.
Some
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
is
that
the
vehicles
weren't
allowed
to
have
sunroofs
Vehicles
also
needed
to
have
partitions.
D
D
It's
Our
intention
to
evaluate
the
safety
of
these
changes
before
deciding
whether
or
not
to
make
them
permanent.
You
know
if
God
forbid
somebody
gets
robbed
or
driver
gets
assaulted,
we're
going
to
say
we
need
the
petitions
again
if
it
turns
out
after
a
study
of
it
for
a
period
of
time
we
feel
comfortable.
Maybe
the
camera
and
the
front
dashboard
is
sufficient
safety
option
and
maybe
we'll
allow
them
to
waive
the
petition.
D
D
A
D
We
contacted
the
New
York
taxi
and
limousine
committee,
and
they
had
had
some
out
there
with
cameras
and
they
said
that,
although
limited
they
haven't
had
any
increases
in
robberies
or
safety
problems.
So
we
said
okay
and
we
put
in
the
pilot
program
that
they
do
have
to
have
a
camera
installed
on
the
dashboard
that
faces
the
driver
in
the
in
the
rear
passengers.
But
we'll
give
it
a
whirl.
They
came
to
us
and
said
that
a
petition
would
deal
breaker,
and
so
we
listened
and
tried
to
accommodate.
A
D
The
petitions
we
have
in
rule
403
certain
standards
that
the
petition
should
be
but
I
think
by
all
those
standards.
It
would
be
a
deal
break
at
the
Tesla
on
the
whatever
grant
program.
It
is
I,
don't
know
if
they're
leasing
them
up
are
buying
them
out
right
on
the
grant
program,
so
I
felt.
What
I
believe
is
is
that
maybe
they
were
leasing
them,
while
they
were
afraid
if
they
had
to
return
the
car
to
Tesla
that
they
would
say
you
damaged
the
vehicle
in
such
and
such
a
way.
D
So
they
asked
us
to
withdraw
that
the
petition
need
for
it,
so
only
for
electric
vehicles
we've
agreed
thus
far,
and
if
the,
if
after
we
have
the
electric
vehicles
out
there
for
a
period
of
time,
that
we
feel
is
sufficient.
I
mean
if,
if
the
first
day
that
they're
out
there
10
Vehicles
go
out
and
10
drivers
get
assaulted,
we're
probably
going
to
stop
the
program
really
fast.
If
a
year's
time
goes
by
and
there's
no
increase,
then
we
may
think
about
dropping
the
petition
as
a
whole.
A
D
No
there's
so
there's
been
some
additional
changes
to
rule
rule.
403
and
I
can
ask
Jen
McConaughey
from
the
Commissioner's
Office
to
see
if
she
could
give
you
the
old
one.
Maybe
from
we've
been
working
on
it.
It's
been
a
work
in
progress
when
I
was
here.
I
was
here
from
2014
to
2018..
I
was
moved
on
to
2019
and
2020
to
different
assignments,
and
then
I
came
back
in
in
March
of
2021..
D
So
but
even
back
in
the
2017
and
2018,
we
were
trying
to
make
changes
to
assist
the
drivers
in
the
industry.
So
she
could
certainly
give
you
like
say,
track
changes
or
the
various
editions
of
rule
403
and
when
superintendent
jacolo,
when
he
was
Captain
in
2008,
rewrote
the
rule.
There
was
a
major
rewrite
at
the
time
and
father
better.
It
made
it
a
much
better
situation
for
everybody
involved,
but
from
2008
to
about
2014
or
15.
There
weren't
a
lot
of
changes
to
it.
A
D
D
People
would
say
well,
why
do
they
have
to
be
fingerprinted
every
year
and
pay
an
additional
fifty
dollars?
Well,
because
when
you
just
submit
their
fingerprints,
you
get
an
FBI
background
check
that
checks
all
the
states,
whereas
if
they
just
came
into
Massachusetts,
you
couldn't
do
it
for
the
sieges.
Maybe
they
have
not
committed
any
offenses
in
Massachusetts,
but
we
wouldn't
know
if
they
committed
an
offense
somewhere
else.
So
that
was
why
now,
when
covet
hit,
we
changed
it
to
every
three
years
come
in
get
fingerprinted.
D
Renew
your
license.
Only
once
a
year
will
inspect
the
vehicles
instead
of
twice
a
year,
so
we've
tried
to
make
things.
You
know
those
whether
they
were
because
of
user
friendly
or
because
of
the
pandemic.
It
was
probably
more
towards
the
pandemic,
but
we're
going
to
keep
those
in
place.
Also,
now
that
we're
past
it,
it
just
seems
to
be
to
work
more
efficiently.
Yeah.
A
D
D
All
we
also
have
what
we'll
say
active
this
202,
that
the
owners
of
the
medallions
did
come
in
and
renew
they
just
haven't,
put
a
put
them
on
a
vehicle,
put
them
back
on
the
road
for
whatever
the
reason,
but
they
want
to.
You
know,
continue
their
ownership.
Now
you
know
rough
math,
that's
about
1300
roughly,
so
that
means
you
know
525
really
on
the
bench.
D
It
could
be,
it
could
be
done
under
the
rules
of
the
in
regulations,
but
we
understand
you
know
between
the
pandemic,
between
between
how
the
industry
has
suffered
with
TNC
legislation,
we
have
not
so
somebody
who
paid
an
exorbitant
amount
for
what
it
didn't
seem
exorbitant
at
the
time
it
might
be
exorbitant
by
today's
standards
might
still
have
it
and
have
the
opportunity
to
sell
it,
for
you
know
at
a
considerable
loss,
but
may
recover
something
for
it.
So
we
haven't
stripped
anybody
of
their
Medallion
yeah.
A
D
So
if
I'm
be,
in
truth,
I,
don't
know
I
remember
from
my
early
ideation
when
I
was
here
in
2018.
There
was
a
lot
of
debate
about
it
because
they
were
going
over
as
private
vehicles
and
paying
private
rates,
as
opposed
to
the
taxi
cab
that
was
going
over
at
commercial
rates.
I
believe
there
was
a
move
afoot
to
try
to
change
that,
so
that
if
it
was
an
Uber,
a
lift
that
they
were
going
to
pay
the
same
commercial
rate
that
the
taxi
cab
was
paying,
whether
or
not
that
has
happened.
D
I
don't
know
like,
interestingly
enough
I,
don't
want
to
talk
too
much
if
the
questions
answered
but
like
we
went
to
massport
like
I
said
we
went
to
hearings
at
massport,
we
went
several
times
to
massport
and
had
conversations
with
them.
Is
there
a
way
of
waiving
the
massport
fee,
which
is
an
additional
fee
beyond
the
tolls?
If
a
taxi
cab
was
coming
in
empty
so
that
they
would
service,
we
asked
them
if
there
was
way
of
waving
the
toll
yeah.
D
If
the
taxi
cab
was
coming
in
empty,
we
went
to
mass
D.O.T
and
asked
for
the
same
consideration
is
their
way
of
waiving
the
toll.
If
the
taxi
cab
was
coming
in
empty,
we
asked
massdot.
Could
the
taxi
cabs,
whether
they're,
empty
or
full,
take
the
HOV
lane?
Could
they
be
allowed
to
take
HOV
lane?
This
is
some
of
the
ways
that
we
have
advocated
for
the
taxi
industry.
Now,
in
truth,
we
weren't
successful
on
any
of
those
benches,
but
we
certainly
tried,
and
there
were
different
reasons
for
it
in
different.
D
D
Well
again,
back
to
my
earlier,
you
know
self
I've
been
back
for
two
years,
but
I
haven't
checked
with
dpu
on
the
numbers
when
it
was
just
done.
They
were
up
to
almost
a
hundred
thousand
or
two
hundred
thousand
that
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities
had
licensed
for
Massachusetts,
not
all
Boston,
of
course,
but
they
had
licensed.
You
know
what
I
mean
upward
of
180
000
to
200
000..
So.
D
A
A
A
G
G
Great
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
Baker,
counselor,
Lara
and
I,
both
Captain
gokon
folks
in
the
room
so
nice
to
see
so
many
of
our
taxi
drivers
and
taxi
industry
here,
because
I
know
you
all
take
really
good
care
of
our
older
residents
out
there
on
the
road.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
thank
you
counselors
for
taking
the
time
to
highlight
the
importance
of
taxis
in
our
city
and
for
inviting
us
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation.
G
So
I
think
we're
here
the
age
strong
commission,
which
is
the
department
that
serves
older
residents
in
Boston,
because
we
play
a
role
along
with
the
BPD
Hackney
unit
and
other
others
in
the
city
in
the
city's
taxi
coupon
program.
So
this
program
allows
people
over
the
age
of
65
or
younger
people
with
disabilities
to
purchase
discounted
taxi
coupons
for
use
in
taxis,
they're
licensed
by
the
city
of
Boston,
Boston
Taxi
coupon
program
was
actually
established
by
the
BPD
commissioner
via
special
order
on
December
31st
1974.
G
So
it
has
almost
five
Decades
of
service
under
it
and
it's
gone
through
quite
a
number
of
changes
over
the
years.
But
currently
older
and
disabled
residents
of
Boston
can
purchase
up
to
four
booklets
of
Taxi
coupons
per
month
for
a
discount
of
50
percent.
So
we
had
increased
that
to
four
booklets
from
two
booklets
after
the
pandemic,
because
we
went
for
a
while
without
selling
booklets,
and
so
we
were
able
to
kind
of
increase
the
numbers
and
eventually
we'll
go
back
to
selling
two
booklets
per
month
per
person.
G
Funding
for
this
program
comes
both
from
the
taxi
coupon
sales
and
also
from
a
125
yearly
fee
that
is
assessed
for
per
each
Medallion,
that
comes
into
the
Hackney
unit,
but
we
were
actually
able,
in
response
to
a
request
from
the
taxi
industry.
We
were
able
to
waive
that
fee
for
the
FY
22
year
because
for
a
large
part
of
the
pandemic,
we
were
unable,
as
I
mentioned,
to
sell
taxi
coupons
just
because
of
kind
of
the
face-to-face
interaction
of
the
service.
G
So
just
kind
of
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
and
keeping
our
older
residents
and
our
teams
safe.
We
were
down
with
sales
for
a
while,
so
we
did
waive
that
fee
for
the
FY
22
year,
so
that
folks
didn't
didn't
have
to
pay
that,
prior
to
the
onset
of
the
over
19
pandemic,
taxi
coupon
book
sales
were
averaging
about
three
to
four
thousand
books
per
month,
higher
in
some
months
like
during
the
summer,
lower
in
other
months
during
the
winter.
G
When
folks
don't
want
to
go
out
as
much
and
we
were
selling
at
coupons
at
Boston,
City,
Hall
and
also
at
one
of
the
many
locations
that
our
taxi
coupon
coordinator
went
throughout.
The
City
coupons
as
I
mentioned,
weren't
sold
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
but
we
started
selling
them
again
at
the
end
of
June
of
2021
By
Appointment,
both
at
City
Hall
and
in
public
sites
across
the
city.
G
We
now
sell
coupons
at
22
public
sites
across
the
city
of
Boston
that
folks
can
access
at
different
hours
at
on
different
days
and
every
day,
nine
to
five
at
City
Hall.
So
we
are
back
up
to
our
pre-pandemic
sales,
having
averaged
about
3
389
per
month
over
the
last
year.
So
we're
excited
to
to
talk
about
this
next
piece.
G
We
are
actually
in
the
process
of
modernizing
the
taxi
coupon
program
and
I
want
to
thank
our
partners
at
the
mayor's
office
of
new
Urban
mechanics
in
the
BPD
Hackney
unit
for
their
partnership
on
program,
and
also
to
do
it
who's
going
to
be
a
partner
of
ours
on
all
of
the
work
to
come
with
the
modernization.
So
there
was
an
investment
in
do
its
FY,
23
capital
budget
and
and
I
just
I
want
to
mention
their
Capital
funds.
G
But
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
working
up
to
this
modernization
and
Gathering
the
input
that
we
need
in
order
for
it
to
be
successful
because
changing
any
program
you
know
is
very
tricky
and
so
led
by
the
mayor's
office
of
new
Urban
mechanics
with
the
design
research
firm
agency,
the
city
conducted
a
user
experience
report
between
May
of
21
and
September
of
21..
So
we
interviewed
over
30
different
stakeholders,
including
taxi
Riders,
taxi
drivers,
radio
associations,
senior
housing,
Partners
City
staff.
G
We
want
to
be
sure
that,
if
we're
modernizing
that
we're
doing
it
correctly
and
then
we're
getting
the
input
from
all
the
different
stakeholders,
the
report
mapped
out
the
Journey
of
each
of
those
users
days
as
it
relates
to
the
program
and
it
worked
to
understand
what
are
the
parts
of
the
current
program
that
working
really
well
and
what
are
the
parts
that
could
use
Improvement
and
there
are
a
significant
number
that
could
use
Improvement.
But
there's
also
a
lot.
G
That's
working,
well
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
maintaining
so
we're
going
to
use
what
we
learned
through
this
research
to
move
the
program
into
the
21st
century.
Finally,
I've
been
trying
for
a
while,
so
we're
really
excited,
and-
and
so
we
anticipate
work
on
this
starting
over
the
next
couple
of
months
as
we
work
with,
do
it
to
prepare,
what's
needed
to
put
out
a
successful
RFP
and
then
moving
on
to
program
implementation
over
the
upcoming
year.
G
So
I
I
think
there
are
challenges
for
all
parties
involved
in
the
taxi
coupon
program
and
we
hope
that
modernizing
is
going
to
kind
of
reduce
some
of
those
challenges.
But
we
really
want
to
thank
our
partners
in
all
of
this
again,
including
the
taxi
drivers
and
taxi
industry
who
who
really
do
great
work
for
our
older
residents
and
so
I
I
know
before
I,
just
close
counselor
I
know.
G
A
B
There's
a
lot
of
Regulation,
and
you
know
these
TNC
companies
do
not
have
to
go
through
that
level
of
scrutiny,
and
so
one
I
think
that's
a
benefit
to
us
right
when
you
think
about
safety,
when
the
people
in
our
city
are
riding
cabs,
that
you
can
really
ensure
that
the
city
of
Boston
is
regulating,
taxis
and
cabs
in
a
way
that
our
people
can
use
them
safely.
You
know
you
see,
you
see
Uber
and
Lyft
there.
B
It's
very
obviously
a
money
grab
and
it's
at
the
expense
of
our
people
and
so
I'm
heartened
to
hear
that
there
is
so
much
protection
for
the
people
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
I'm
also
curious
about
what
you
think.
Some
of
the
pain
points
are
like
what
is
some
of
the
red
tape
that
makes
it
difficult
for
people
to
kind
of
like
register
or
become
a
taxi.
A
taxi
driver
I
know
that's
some.
B
When
you
put
your
application
in,
and
so
we
are
about
to
start
budget
season-
and
so
I
would
like
to
hear
from
you
what
are
some
of
the
challenges
and
where
we
can
put
resources
to
maybe
see
like
modernize
this
and
make
it
more
accessible,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
earlier
is
that
most
taxi
drivers
are
immigrants,
and
so
do
we
have
like
translation
that
is
offered
on
this.
So
I'm
thinking
about
how
to
make
this
process
more
accessible.
D
B
D
Sorry
about
that,
you
know:
Council
are
again
hit
it
spot
on.
We
thought
that,
back
when
the
tnc's
were
kind
of
guerrilla
marketing
themselves,
that
at
least
we
were
able
to
ensure
people
of
Boston,
the
cab
drivers
that
are
driving
them
from
licensed
Boston
cab
drivers
had
gone
through
a
background
check
and
we
have
certified
them
to
be
worthy
safe
and
that
it
was
you
know
we
hoped
a
good
selling
point,
take
a
cab,
you'll
be
safe,
and
so
that
was
important
to
us.
D
Modernization
like,
like
commissioner
Shea
said,
is
coming.
You
know
we're
getting
into
the
New
Millennium
a
little
behind,
but
we're
trying
to
get
a
lot
more
forms
online.
That's
happening
as
we
speak
as
far
as
different
languages
we
do
require
them
to
drive,
is
to
be
proficient
at
in
the
English
language
so
that
they
can
deal
with
the
clients
that
they're
serving,
but
so
many
things,
though,
we've
we've.
There
was
a
time
when
we
had
a
wait
list
for
a
class
to
get
drivers
into
class.
D
We'd
have
25
drivers
come
in
to
a
class
and
they'd
go
through
a
four-day
class.
Now
we
might
get
one
or
two
come
to
the
front
desk
and
say:
are
you
having
a
class
and
so
what
we
do
is
they
we
give
them
a?
We
try
to
make
it
like.
We
try
to
help
so
we'll
say
his
book
with
you
know,
rules,
regulations
and
some
things
that
we'd,
like
you
to
know
as
a
cab
driver,
go
and
study
it
come
back.
D
Take
the
test,
get
a
70
on
the
test
and
and
we'll
license
you.
You
know,
you
know
the
background
check
is
coming,
the
fingerprints
are
coming
and
and
all-
and
you
know
so
and
I
will
say
that,
like
the
background
check
and
the
fingerprints
like
a
criminal
record
is
not
a
deal
breaker,
you
know,
that's
never
been
a
deal
breaker,
but
we
might
look
at
like
what
that
criminal
record
involves.
And
you
know
what
I
mean
like
look
at.
D
If,
if
somebody
is
a
sex
offender,
we
might
not
they're,
probably
going
to
be
a
no
of
course.
But
but
you
know
what
I
mean
you
know:
we've
got
a
couple
of
people
who
turn
their
lives
around
and
you
know-
and
this
might
be
a
good
way
for
them
to
take
control
of
be
their
own
boss
be
self-employed.
You
know
where
they
might
not
have
maybe
other
opportunities.
D
B
Yeah
and
we
also
I
I,
don't
and
I'm-
not
sure
of
this
and
I,
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
Turner,
say
anything
wrong,
but
I
don't
actually
know
that
the
TNC
companies
are
forthcoming
with
what
their
process
is
and
kind
of
like
what
are
the
things
that
they
consider
when
they're
selecting
drivers.
So
in
2021
there
was
a
special
order
of
the
police
commissioner
that
basically
required
that
Medallion
owners
must
have
a
city
of
Boston
address.
Is
that
still
true.
D
B
B
Okay,
great
I,
I
I
was
asking
because
obviously
we
see
the
cost
of
living
in
the
city
of
Boston
right
and
so,
if
you're,
requiring
that
I
I'm
I
I'm
supportive
of
it
I
think
you
know.
Of
course,
you
know
City
make
sure
that
there's
jobs
for
the
people
who
live
here
in
the
city
and
also
I
know
that
it
can
be
if,
if
people
are
having
a
hard
time,
particularly
taxi
drivers
are
having
a
hard
time
really
bringing
in
a
livable
wage.
D
We
make
sure
all
if,
if
somebody's
buying
a
medallion,
we
make
sure
that
they
have
a
business
entity
that
has
a
Boston
address
with
with
Secretary
of
State
William
galvin's
office,
but
that
could
be,
you
know
same
way
with
the
vehicle.
We
know
we
think
we
you
know,
many
of
them
are
Post
Office
boxes,
I,
don't
think
it's
actually.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
a
a
building
or
an
apartment
or
an
office.
B
Of
course,
okay,
that's
helpful,
so,
commissioner
Shea
the
question.
The
next
question
that
I
have
is
for
you.
Can
you
talk
to
me
about
the
senior
coupon?
What
is
the
process
right?
So
you've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
22
locations
where
people
can
purchase
them
and
they
use
them.
They
give
them
to
the
driver
with
the
driver.
So
can
you
talk
to
me
about
the
life
cycle
and
how
it
goes
from
the
people
purchasing
this
piece
of
paper
to
money
in
the
driver's
pocket.
G
Thank
you
yes,
I
will
I
will
try
to
do
my
best.
My
office
is
responsible
for
kind
of
a
piece
of
that,
but
I'll
try
to
do
my
best
telling
you
the
whole
the
whole
life
cycle.
So
essentially,
what
happens
is
that
the
police,
Hackney
police
print
the
coupons
every
month.
We
pick
up
coupons
from
them
boxes
of
coupons.
G
We
then
sell
them,
so
we
have
kind
of
a
tracking
system
for
sales
and
depositing
of
of
the
the
funds
and
then,
when
the
residents
use
them
in
the
cabs
they
are.
The
booklets
are
10
they're
paper
coupons,
so
it's
ten
one
dollar
coupons
per
booklet
and
they
can
use
them
like
they'd,
be
using
a
dollar
bill
in
a
cab
and
they
give
them
to
the
drivers.
E
G
G
H
G
And
the
check
is
issued
by
by
the
treasury
Department
and
how
long
does
it
take
the
treasury
Department
tissue
the
check?
Well
so
the
way
that
treasury
issues
a
check
is
so
the
way
that
City
checks
work
is
right
once
you
submit
for
a
reimbursement,
it
takes
about
two
weeks
to
get
that
check
issued,
but
the
whole
process
takes
quite
a
long
time,
and
so
the
reason
that
we
want
to
I
mean
there's
many
reasons
that
we
want
to
modernize.
But
a
big
piece
of
that
is.
G
So
the
hope
is
that
we
can
go
to
some
type
of
card
based
system
or
something
like
that,
then
can
kind
of
be
much
more
immediately
able
to
reimburse
somebody
I
think
on
the
you
know,
know
I
think
about
the
older
adult
side
of
that
a
lot
right.
So
a
lot
of
people
can
kind
of
load
money
on
a
card
online
or
something
like
that.
But
there
are
also
people
that
still
need
kind
of
that
in-person
exchange.
G
Maybe
they
can't
go
online
and
so
where
we
need
to
work
through
that
end
of
things,
kind
of
that
user
and
older
adult
end,
but
also
the
whole
process
piece,
so
that
so
that
we're
both
reducing
the
areas
that
there
could
be
error
and
also
making
that
Financial
exchange
much
quicker
for
the
people
that
are
doing
the
service.
Great
thank.
B
B
G
B
G
B
B
I
know
the
administration
is
here
if
you
could
take
that
as
a
we
can
get
those
through
the
chair
request
to
get
the
amount.
That's
there
and
I
know
that
it
may
seem
like
we're,
focusing
a
lot
on
like
these
coupons,
but
the
reason
why
one
because
we
have
you
here,
commissioner,
but
also
I-
think
the
reason
why
that's
so
important
is
because
one
there's
very
little
that
we
can
do
to
backtrack.
What's
already
happened
with
Uber
and
Lyft
in
the
city
right,
but
there
are
supports.
B
It
feels
like
an
untapped
Market
if
we
want
to
support
people
who
have
medallions,
who've
lost
incredible
value
have
lost
their
livelihood
to
really
be
able
to
kind
of
make
a
comeback,
and
at
least
recoup
that
value
and
that
livelihood
for
their
families,
and
so
I,
see
this
as
being
an
opportunity
and
so
I'm.
That's
why
I'm
kind
of
poking,
because
I
would
like
to
see
what
are
the
gaps
and
the
opportunities
for
us
to
be
able
to
support
these
drivers.
I
have
other
are
questions,
but
I
am
going
to
stop
there.
Questions.
B
B
The
pain
points
like
on
the
user
end
of
it
I
think
that
the
work
that
you're
doing,
like
you
said
it's
coming,
it's
already
being
modernized.
We
are
going
to
have
a
budget
hearing
and
so
I
think
that
I'll
just
ask
that
question
we're
at
the
budget
hearing
about
like
where
the
resources
are
to
kind
of
that
modernization
of
what
the
timeline
is
to
make.
Those
changes
I
appreciate
the
answer
about
the
language
because
they
do
have
to
be
I.
I
also
know
that
spoken,
English
and,
like
you
know,
maybe
filling
out
an
application.
B
I
feel
like
it's
different
and
it
might
just
for
accessibility,
make
it
easier
for
people
to
understand
and
navigate,
but
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
Let
me
just
I
just
want
to
double
check.
Thank
you,
chair
for
indulging
me
to
make
sure
that
I
have
it
so
the
small
business
owners-
and
these
are
the
questions
right,
because
we
don't
have
the
cabinet,
The,
Economic,
Opportunity,
cabinet
here
and
so
I-
think.
That's
something
the
most
of
the
questions
that
I
have
about.
B
What
support
we
can
give
drivers
are
on
the
economic
side,
and
so
drivers
did
not
have
access
to
any
other
small
business
grants
during
covid
right.
There
were
so
many
ways
that
we
didn't
really
support
them,
and
so
those
questions
are
not
for
the
administration
members
that
are
here
yeah.
Thank
you.
Okay
and.
A
Captain
I
do
have
a
copy
of
403
here
with
some
changes
on
it,
so
I'll
go
through
that
Emily.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation
and,
like
so
you're,
basically
we're
looking
to
go
to
a
Cod
system
that
can
load
on
there,
and
that
might
be
something
that
would
be
one
thing.
The
city
is
doing
to
try
and
support
the
taxi
industry.
Yeah.
G
A
You're
good,
yes,
thank
you
guys
and
and
in
moving
forward
I.
Would
you
know
it
would
be
nice
to
maybe
in
a
working
session
or
something
here
if
there
is
any
other
plan
outside
of
what
you're
doing
to
try
and
support
the
taxi
industry
and
build
the
tax
industry,
I
mean
we've
we've
a
lot
of
talk
about
Opera
money,
I
didn't
see
any
any
Opera
money
going
towards
supporting
the
taxi
industry,
because
the
taxis
are
realistically
people
that
probably
more
often
than
not
live
in
our
communities
and
in
a
part
of
our
fabric.
A
Where
I
you
were
talking
about
200,
000
trips
and
it
says
half
of
the
Massachusetts
TNC
taxi
rides,
half
of
them,
beginning
Boston
and
75
percent
of
those
end
in
Boston,
so
basically
200
000,
Vehicles.
Most
of
them
are
on
our
streets
all
day
long
and
we're
not
getting
anything
from.
As
far
as
I
can
see
not
anything,
we
got
something
in
legislation
that
went
to
another
state
bureaucracy
that
gave
us
a
grant
that
did
not
translate
into
anything
for
the
taxi
industry,
Tech
the
individual
owners
and
things
like
that.
A
So
I'm
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
see
what
what
else
we
can
do
other
ways
to
support.
You
know
this
500
or
so
medallions
on
the
Shelf.
How
do
we
get?
How
do
we
get
those
up
and
running
I
mean
because
I
think
part
of
the
problem
with
the
taxi
industry,
because
they
were
hurt
so
much
we're
having
a
hard
time
seeing
them
in
our
neighborhoods.
You
might
see
them
at
the
airport
or
around
downtown,
but
they're
not
just
driving
around
the
way
they
used
to
be
it's
all
the
Uber
and
Lyft.
A
I
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
guys
and
whoever
wants
to
stop.
First,
just
your
name,
your
affiliation,
and
you
know
your
statement
will
go.
Whoever
wants
to
sign
first,
we'll
hear
from
everybody
and
then
we'll
ask
questions
Okay
who
wants
to
go
first,
you
wanna
go
left
to
right
or
you
want
to
sound
Linda.
K
K
Think
most
of
the
guys
here
that
have
ever
lost
their
Medallion
or
lost
the
equity
and
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
down
to
18
to
22
was
a
pretty
good
hit
for
most
people
that
were
expecting
to
retire
on
this
I'm.
Not
an
immigrant
I
I
did
grow
up
in
Boston.
My
kids
went
to
school
here.
I,
don't
live
in
the
city
now,
but
I've
Got
Roots
in
Brighton
and
at
Boston
Latin,
and
things
like
that.
K
K
So
far
doing
this
prior
to
that,
I
was
very
active
with
the
Boston
Taxi
Owners
Association,
and
we
were
pretty
much
involved
with
you
know,
suing
Uber
also
litigating.
The
new
I
think
was
chapter
149
that
we
thought
was
not
really
fair
and
didn't
do
enough
to
to
level
the
playing
field
prior
to
covert.
We
I
was
involved
with
Linder
and
other
people
actively
meeting
with
councilor
Baker,
counselor,
Flynn
and
counselor
Campbell's
staff,
and
they
were
very
helpful
and
then
covet
came
and
things
got
a
little
disruptive.
K
For
many
of
us,
the
medallions
were
our
American
Dream,
our
retirement
I'll
be
72
next
year,
I'm
still
working
and
don't
mind
working
a
little,
but
I
wasn't
expecting
to
continue
working
this
much
for
many
of
us.
It
feels
like
something
has
been
stolen
from
us.
Something
has
been
stake
taken
for
a
long
time.
The
investment
was
as
as
strong
as
real
estate
or
whatever,
and
that's
why
you
know
many
guys
saw
this
as
their
their
future.
K
The
way
to
send
their
kids
to
college
and
no
one
ever
expected
the
industry
to
collapse
this
badly
and
I'm,
not
a
mathematician,
but
it
seems
like
it's
about
98
of
its
value
that
was
lost.
That's
pretty
much
everything,
I
I
really
wanted
to
say.
I
just
wanted
to
be
available
to
answer
some
questions.
K
The
one
thing
I
think
Linder
will
be
talking
about,
and
that
resonates
with
me
is
that
we
would
love
a
collaborator
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
that's
why
it
was
great
to
see
you
guys
come
forward
and
really
seem
to
show
concern
about.
What's
happened
to
many
of
the
people
in
the
industry,
everything
takes
forever
and
I
know
what
there's
bureaucracies,
but
it
took
four
or
five
years
to
make
a
few
of
those
changes
to
403..
K
We
would
love
people
that
want
to
work
with
us
to
help
us
not
just
slap
us
if
we
don't
have
enough
wax
on
our
car
or
we
or
or
a
hubcap
fell
off
on
The
Leverage
tunnel.
You
know
we
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
have
you
know.
I
know.
One
of
you
folks
had
talked
about
the
the
old
taxi
advisory
committee
through
Chris
English,
but
that
never
developed
into
anything,
but
we
would
like
to
have
a
partner
in
the
city
of
Boston
that
that
really
wants
to
listen.
K
So
when,
when
we
talk
about
a
toll
issue,
where
we
talk
about
you
know,
you
know
even
the
150
dollars
to
the
to
the
elderly
program
that
we
we
have
been
paying
for
many
years
again,
being
an
old
guy
I'm
saying
to
myself,
why
am
I
being
forced
to
to
subsidize
the
demographic
which
I'm
part
of
you
know?
I,
no
one
is
no
one's,
forcing
a
parking
garage
to
give
me
a
discount,
no
one's,
forcing
Dunkin
Donuts
to
give
me
a
senior
discount
if
they
choose
to
do
it.
That's
fine.
K
We
somehow
50
years
ago,
got
caught
in
paying
150
dollars
to
subsidize
the
program
which
I
have
no
problem
with
seniors
and
the
elderly
and
and
handicapped
getting
getting
a
subsidy.
It's
just.
Why
are
we
paying
it?
So
to
me
the
conversation
needs
to
happen
with
a
collaborative
group
of
City
people
that
would
listen
to
an
argument
saying
maybe
somebody
else
should
pay
for
it.
K
You
know,
and
it's
a
small
issue,
but
it's
a
symbolic
issue
just
like
as
as
Council
breaker
right
now
knows,
he's
heard
cab
drivers
complain
about
the
toll
issue
to
Logan
Airport
when
we're
going
there
empty
it'd,
be
nice
to
be
able
to
to
have
a
partner
that
that
that
can
listen
to
us
and
and
and
doesn't
just
say
no
and
doesn't
just
slap
our
wrist
and
make
it
even
more
difficult
to
function
as
a
business.
But
thank
you
for
the
time.
J
J
Sorry.
Thank
you,
but
I
wanted
to
keep
this
brief,
so
we
could
introduce
the
others.
I
came
to
the
taxi
industry
through
my
dad.
He
started
driving
a
taxi
in
the
late
60s
he's
been
involved
in
the
industry
ever
since
then,
in
different
ways,
when
the
industry
collapsed,
I
came
in
to
help
him,
because
you
know
he's
older
now
and
I
just
saw
the
need
to
help
this
industry.
There
is
a
lot
that
can
be
improved,
I
think
the
competition
with
Uber
and
Lyft.
How
that
came
about
is
sad
and
I'm.
J
L
L
L
L
Yes,
I
had
no
idea
what
it
means,
but
I
found
a
bunch
of
taxi
drivers
who
said
yes,
let's
do
it.
We
are
board
sitting
at
home,
so
we
were
running
all
the
transportation
back
in
the
days
for
the
Public,
Health
commission
and
all
those
homeless
shelters
transporting
people
24
hours
back
and
forward.
It
was
very
successful,
but
it
also
shows
us
there's
more
need
in
Boston,
and
this
was
and
also
one
of
the
reasons
as
it.
L
There
must
be
something
like
an
umbrella
to
bring
back
to
gather
this
action
history,
and
this
was
in
The
Way
Forward
taxi
Alliance,
and
then
we
also
saw
that
there
must
be
more
I
mean.
This
is
not
enough.
We
came
in
with
an
app,
it
was
just
not
enough
and
we
said
hey.
We
need
to
reinvent
how
to
operate
taxes,
and
this
was
happening
now
and
we
were
very
successful.
L
M
Hi,
my
name
is
taxi
operators.
Association
I've
been
with
the
company
for
13
years,
so
I
kind
of
went
through
when
Uber
and
Lyft
came
in
and
I
saw.
You
know
after
the
pandemic,
a
lot
of
the
drivers
wind
up
going
bankruptcy
and
losing
their
medallions
and
the
whole
livelihood
was
taken
away
from
them.
M
We
worked
through
the
pandemic
with
several
drivers
that
continued
on
the
roads,
but
a
lot
of
the
drivers
didn't
come
to
work
during
the
pandemic
and
they
never
came
back
after
that,
I'm
not
quite
sure
where
they
ended
up
if
they're
driving
for
somebody
else,
another
company
or
but
they
didn't
come
back
with
us-
and
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
have
the
opportunity
to
actually
be
involved
in
helping
our
company
to
try
to
be
more
involved
and
what's
happening
and
I
look
forward
to
doing
that.
So
thank
you
for
this.
Thank.
N
N
Yeah,
basically,
my
father
owns
a
garage
and
a
body
shop.
At
the
same
time,
so
I
grew
up
I'm
five
years
old
until
I
went
to
college
kind
of
working
there,
part-time
on
and
off,
went
to
college
got
a
nice
College
job.
Afterwards,
then
I
saw
the
taxi
industry
as
a
way
of
having
a
good
future
quit
my
nice
comfy
state
job
and
started
working.
N
N
Just
said:
okay,
we're
gonna
stare
at
you
and
see
what
you
do
and
seeing
that
The
Medallion
prices
have
gone
so
far
down
from
where
they
originally
I
personally
bought
a
few
and
500
000
range
I
currently
have
one
of
them,
the
other
one
I
just
kind
of
just
let
it
go.
Currently
we
run
42k
medallions
that
we
own
we're
only
running
about
30.
I
got
about
five
of
them
sitting
at
my
garage
now,
because
I
don't
even
have
drivers
for
them.
N
The
average
length
of
my
driver
is
probably
about
28
years
that
they've
been
with
us.
We
just
recently
lost
a
driver
that
was
close
to
40
years
that
he
was
with
us.
He
just
recently
passed
away,
but
so
it's
just
tough
seeing
the
industry
going
from
the
peak
of
it
well
from
when
I
was
young
to
the
peak
and
just
watching
it
crumble,
as
it
is
I
think
the
biggest
downfall
right
now
is
the
driver's
shortage
drivers
now
I
believe
are
getting
older
and
older
back.
When
I
was
younger.
N
Kid
people
were
coming
into
this
country
at
20,
25
years
old,
going,
hey
I'm,
going
to
start
driving
a
cab
then
eventually
buy
one
and
I
don't
see
that
happening
anymore.
I
used
to
get
Stacks
and
stacks
of
applications,
people
to
drive
I
get
maybe
one
a
month.
If
that
and
even
then
it's
it's
funny,
because
it's
I
get
a
regular
basis
of
Uber
drivers
coming
and
saying,
can
I
drive
a
cab,
I
go
whoa,
you
have
to
go
to
Hackney
School.
What's
that
I
have
no
idea
what
that
is.
N
I
didn't
know
you
needed
that.
So
that's
a
tough
thing,
but
my
biggest
thing
is
I
hope
this
Council
we
move
forward
helping
each
other,
and
my
biggest
thing
right
now
is
that
the
city
needs
taxis
just
from
the
price
point
of
view,
because
if
the
taxis
were
not
here,
Uber
and
Lyft
could
charge
whatever
they
want.
We
are
keeping
the
their
prices
low
because
we
are
so
regulated
of
what
we
can
charge,
how
much
we
can
charge
per
miles
per
foot
per
time
that
they
are
sitting
there.
N
A
I
A
A
A
N
Basically,
the
owners
required
for
the
maintenance
and
repair
like
for
us
something
goes
wrong
with
the
taxis,
whoever
responsible
for
it.
We
are
covering
all
the
excise
tax,
Motor
Vehicle,
tax
sales,
tax,
renewal
fees
as
an
owner.
This
is
a
point
of
view,
as
an
owner
they're
not
required
for
those.
So.
A
So
one
thing
is
Surety:
Surety
I
know.
If
I'm
going
in
to
drive
for
a
Saturday
night
shift,
I
know
what
I'm
going
to
come
out
of
on
on
a
Saturday
night.
You
might
not
necessarily
know
that
with
all
the
surge
pricing
and
everything
else
with
Uber
and
Lyft,
you
know
if
you
make
a
deal
with
you.
Okay
I'll
make
x
amount
of
dollars,
possibly.
A
L
Maybe
quick
to
them
I
think
in
Boston
what
happened
after
pandemic?
The
model
changed,
so
it
really
went
from
a
the
Fleet
model
to
own
a
drive
operate
model,
so
I
think
over
80.
Meanwhile,
of
those
drivers
are
small
business
owners,
so
yeah
you
have
to
see
now
you
have
a
bunch
of
little
small
businesses
driving
around
where
this
is
where
they
make
a
livelihood.
So
I
think
this
is
very
interesting
to
see
the
switch,
so
they
still
drive
or
still
trust
into
this
model,
because
now
they
invest
in
bottles
medallions.
L
L
They
are
now
here
those
base
problems,
I
think
the
biggest
problem
is
the
reputation,
a
taxi,
something
old
and
Dusty
younger
people.
They
don't
use
taxes,
they
push
a
button
and
request
an
Uber
and
Lyft.
So
besides
fixing
the
I
would
say
it's
the
base
fixing
the
reputation.
So
this
is,
in
my
opinion,
of
course,
provide
technology
that
it's
way
cooler,
but
also
change.
Maybe
the
look,
and
also
what
kind
of
car
picks
you
up,
for
example,
focusing
on
those
electrification.
This
is
I.
L
Think
if
a
Tesla
comes
here
is
a
taxi,
even
the
the
hardcore
Uber
driver
would
say
whoa.
What's
that,
here's
a
10
year
old
little
Camry
and
here's
a
Tesla
should
I,
maybe
try
this
product,
then
the
second
thing
is:
how
can
I
get
those
cars?
Yes,
we
need
technology
like
apps,
you
name
it,
but
this
is
also
maybe
one
of
the
reasons.
What
is
difference
between
a
taxi
cab
and
an
Uber,
an
Uber
can
only
be
requested
by
an
apple
electronic
device.
L
A
taxi
can
also
be
held
on
the
street
on
an
airport
on
an
event
you
just
hop
in
and
drive
so
I
think
this
is
the
main
differences
with
those
two
models.
And
yes,
and
now
it's
really
to
you-
cannot
compete
against
Uber
impossible,
but
now
it's
to
fight
those
Niche.
Where
is
the
industry
tax
industry
better
and
focus
on
that
and
try
to
make
it
work
and
I
think
those
are
the
challenges
now
what
we
have
to
solve.
A
L
For
example,
there
are
caps
out
there
there's
like
there's
a
curb
app.
We
have
an
app
the
wave
app,
but
app
businesses
is
very
challenging
to
compete
to
a
billion
dollar
company
like
an
Uber,
you
know,
so
that's
why
my
thing
is
always
you
have
to
first
attract
people
that
they
like
the
product
and
then
you
give
them
the
all
the
opportunities
how
to
access
this
this
model
so.
L
L
K
A
A
J
So,
just
very
quickly
we're
here
to
talk
about
taxis
today,
but
we
did
want
to
just
introduce
Way
Forward
taxi
Alliance.
It's
a
non-profit
trade
Association
created
to
bring
the
taxi
industry
together
to
collaborate
and
advocate
for
a
more
competitive
and
in
Innovative
environment
for
the
Massachusetts
taxi
industry.
Our
initial
focus
is
Boston
and
our
mission
is
to
increase
profitability
for
taxi
owners
and
drivers
while
providing
an
exceptional
customer
experience
to
passengers.
J
J
J
The
second
Grant
is
the
mass
development,
Finance
Agency
or
mat,
or
mass
development
taxi
and
Livery
business
support
Grant,
and
that
will
be
funding,
marketing
and
educational
initiatives
to
strengthen
strengthen
the
taxi
industry.
So
your
question
Council
Baker,
about
where
the
funds
went
from
Mass
development.
That's
a
portion
of
it.
A
J
J
J
L
Think
the
is
it
a
mass
CC
grant
program,
or
is
it
mainly
to
provide
grants
to
drivers
to
invest
in
electrifications
and
electric
cars
right
now?
We
work
with
Tesla
is,
of
course
not
the
only
brand,
but
right
now
Tesla
is
still
a
brand.
Was
the
biggest
electric
picket
marketing
message
for
electrification
soon,
I
think
many
many
others
are
coming,
but
right
now
this
is
the
start.
L
So
there
will
be
10
Teslas
running
a
pilot
program
for
two
years
here
in
Boston,
equipped
with
new
technology,
and
this
will
be
also,
then
not
just
cars
driving
around.
They
will
collect
a
lot
of
data.
What
we
didn't
submit
to
mass
CAC-
and
hopefully
there
will
be
done
at
around
two
with
more
funds
to
we'll-
have
of
course
way
more
calls
on
the
road
yeah.
So
this
is
a
little
rough
about
this
whole
program.
J
J
Unfortunately,
as
of
the
end
of
2022,
40
percent
of
Boston
medallions
were
off
the
road.
These
medallions
represent
small
business
owners
that
either
can't
afford
to
purchase
vehicles
or
can't
find
drivers
that
want
to
drive
a
taxi.
These
off
the
road
medallions
also
include
medallions
that
have
been
foreclosed
on
by
lenders.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
number
has
changed
since
the
end
of
the
year,
but
it's
pretty
significant.
J
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add
next
slide,
so
this
slide
just
summarized
the
impacts
of
tnc's,
uber
and
Lyft
on
the
Boston
Taxi
industry,
as
you
can
see,
in
2013,
at
the
height
of
the
Market
Boston
taxis
provided
15
million
trips
down
to
2022,
where
there
were
2
million
the
value,
Boston
Taxi
Medallion
values.
As
Captain
Goggins
said
in
2013-14
there
were
some
sales
in
700,
000.
and
they're
running
about
20
000
today,
so
pretty
dramatic
decreases
on
both
sides.
J
J
These
rides
are
being
provided
by
the
same
TNC
vehicles
that
spend
the
day
driving
around
Boston
waiting
for
ride
requests,
and
it's
clear
from
this
data
that
Boston
TNC
rides
not
only
have
negatively
impacted
the
use
of
Boston
taxis
but
also
have
decreased
the
use
of
the
MBTA
trains,
buses,
bikes
and
people
walking.
So
it's
pretty
significant.
J
J
It's
going
to
be
crucial
in
implementing
Innovation
and
improvements.
A
few
areas
of
focus
may
include
future
amendments
to
rule
403,
effective
And,
Timely
Communications,
on
changes
to
rule
403
online
driver
training,
and
all
of
these
things
together,
hopefully,
will
be
key
in
attracting
new
passengers
and
drivers
to
the
taxi
industry.
J
J
J
J
J
One
of
the
things
that
was
changed
in
the
amendment
tool
403
in
2020,
was
the
removal
of
the
Hackney
school
requirement.
So,
as
captain
goggin
mentioned,
if
someone
is
interested
in
becoming
a
driver,
they
can
just
get
the
book
study
it
and
pass
the
test.
So
we
don't
need
to
wait
to
go
to
school
and-
and
that
is
that
was
a
huge
barrier
because
a
lot
of
times
they
would
wait
to
get
enough
drivers
and
then
once
they
got
enough
drivers.
J
J
So
commissioner,
Shea
mentioned
something
that
I
wasn't
aware
of,
and
I
was
ecstatic
to
hear
about
it
that
they're
transitioning
the
program,
the
Boston
elderly
program
from
a
paper
coupon
to
I,
don't
know
if
it'll
be
a
debit
card
program,
but
hopefully
it
is.
She
addressed
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
are
that
do
exist
today.
So
hopefully
we
can
just
be
part
of
that
team
and
provide
our
input
and
updating
that
next
slide.
L
Of
course,
I
I
mean
Texas
is
a
city
kind
of
a
little
bit
part
of
the
city,
so
they
might
should
also
have
access
to
like
government
programs,
for
example
the
Rye
program.
There
are
so
many
Transportation
government,
Transportation
programs,
meanwhile
run
by
Uber
and
Lyft,
so
maybe
also
give
taxes
the
opportunity
that
they
have
access
to
those
programs,
because
you
know
in
the
end,
this
is
good
money
for
the
drivers,
which
is
like
a
kind
of
a
secure
income
for
them.
L
Taxes
still
have
a
lot
of
wheelchair,
accessible
Vehicles,
most
of
them.
They
just
drive
around
and
pick
up
people,
so
there
is
really
no
need
for
them
to
have
those
cars
but
giving
them
access
to
those
kind
of
jobs
that
they
really
need
those
cars.
So
because
at
one
point
the
drivers
just
keep
renewing
them
with
other
cars
because
say
why
should
I
invest
in
a
wheelchair
car?
If
I
don't
have
the
right
business?
L
For
that,
then
sure
cities
can
always
help
promoting
technology
that
people
can
access
those
taxi
cabs
easier,
for
example,
for
companies
who
provide
apps
out
there
and
other
things.
I
talk
a
lot
to
drivers
and
they
always
tell
me,
for
example,
hey:
why
can
we
not
use
bus
lanes
if
we're
sitting
there
in
traffic?
The
bus
lane
is
empty.
L
It's
an
opportunity,
I
mean
there's.
Those
are
little
points,
but
maybe
we
can
address
them.
Maybe
there
is
a
way,
because
going
from
A
to
B
faster
is
not
just
a
happier
passenger.
It's
also,
you
know
less
traffic
instead
of
having
bus
lanes
completely
empty,
I
think
even
in
New
York
you
allow
it
for
a
certain
time.
The
taxi
drivers
can
use
those
spots
Lanes.
So
it
does
a
little
bit
of
about
those
things
where
we
have
opportunities
where
we
could
increase
the
driver.
Income
and
increasing
income
is
also
not
just
having
more
passengers.
J
Next
slide,
and
so
this
is
the
last
Point
and
I'm
going
to
preface
this
by
saying.
I
understand
that
the
TNC
state
law
is
a
state
law.
City
of
Boston
really
doesn't
have
much
say
in
how
to
regulate
it,
but
given
that
half
of
the
Massachusetts
TNC
rides
begin
in
Boston
I
think
it's
time
to
really
see
how
the
city
of
Boston
can
further
regulate
the
tnc's
and
we're
not
even
talking
about
the
delivery
sector,
which
is
like
another
animal
in
itself.
J
You
know:
there's
an
uncontrolled
number
of
tnc's
working
in
Boston
there's
250
approved
TNC
drivers
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts
250
000.
Sorry,
you
know,
even
if
you
say,
half
of
them
are
in
Boston,
that's
still
a
lot
compared
to
the
1825
medallions
on
the
road.
Many
of
these
vehicles
that
are
on
the
road
are
out
of
state
without
estate
registrations,
they're
taking
jobs
from
drivers
and
businesses
from
the
Boston
community.
J
If
this
law
is
not
amended
to
address
Boston's
specific
issues,
the
future
and
health
and
safety
of
Boston,
in
my
opinion,
is
at
risk.
So
you
know
there
I,
don't
know,
legislation
believe
what
we
could
do,
but
Cambridge
actually
entertained
home
rule
petition
their
city
council
actually
approved.
It
could
be
potential
collaboration
with
them,
since
they
have
just
as
much
I
mean
I
think
they
have
the
second
biggest
largest
pickups
of
TNC.
So
and.
J
J
Places
it
was
to
limit
the
type
of
vehicles
that
we're
going
to
be
working
in
Cambridge
and
I'd
have
to
dust
that
off
because
it
was
in
2019
and
then
they
actually
went
to
the
state
house.
It
was
February
2020
and
then
it
got
dropped
so,
but
they
do
have
an
appetite
to
try
and
curtail
the
number
of
vehicles
on
the
road.
J
It's
Cambridge
is
even
worse
than
Boston,
just
because
it's
so
smaller
yeah,
but
again,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
information
to
you
and
if
we
can
just
come
leave
this
meeting
today,
agreeing
to
have
a
team,
that's
going
to
work
in
the
future,
I
think
we've
had.
We
would
have
success.
A
B
How
do
we
make
driving
a
taxi,
something
that
other
people
younger
folks
people?
You
know
who?
May
you
know,
how
do
we
replace
the
transitioning
drivers
at
the
same
time?
I
think
that
there's
a
third
there's,
a
third
prong
there,
that
there
are
some
people
who
are
in
the
hole
who
are
maybe
going
bankrupt
and
so
on,
and
so
that
maybe
do
not
want
to
keep
driving
and
I
do
think
that
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
support,
whether
it
be
by
grants
or
the
city.
B
You
know
just
want
to
have
something
to
show
for
the
massive
investment
that
they
made
I
mean
at
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
liquor
license
and
people.
You
know
they
keep
them,
they
sell
them,
they
make
a
profit
they
build
like
that
is.
It
was
meant
to
be
the
same
thing
and
what
we've
seen
is
just
you
know,
it's
unconscionable
what
we've
allowed
to
happen
with
the
TNC
companies
really
in
the
city,
so
I
have
questions.
B
One
is
I
want
to
talk
about
the
next
steps.
Ultimately,
I
think
that
I,
you
know
all
the
information
that
you
gave
us
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
really
long
time,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
the
next
steps
that
you've
outlined
here.
You've
talked
about
how
to
improve
the
Taxi's
reputation.
So
I
got
that.
B
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
I
think
increasing
the
driver.
Income
is
really
important,
because
I
think
that
you
know
like
counselor
Baker
was
saying
he's
like
I'm
not
going
to
use
an
app,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
not
going
to
use
an
app
and
when
you
talk
about
these
government
contracts,
I'm
thinking
Hospital
contracts
right.
So
how
do
we
create
like
a
public
public,
private
partnership?
You
see
a
lot
of
drivers
there,
but
how
do
we
make
it,
something
that
is
systemic
or
it's
like?
You
have
Vans.
B
You
can
pick
up
people
in
wheelchairs.
There's
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't,
and
so
there
are,
if
Uber
and
Lyft
is
going
to
dominate
kind
of
like
this
kind
of
use
of
Transportation.
There
are
other
places
where
taxis
are
better,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
tap
into
those
places
where
taxes
actually
work
better,
because
that
is
that's
the
that's
the
base.
That's
basically,
that's
that's
the
new
customer
base
right
in
2023
the
world
has
changed.
We
have
Uber
and
Lyft.
B
There
is
a
base
for
using
taxi
drivers
and
those
government
contracts
and
Hospital
contracts,
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
think
that
those
are
really
creative
ways
that
we
can
basically
create
a
new
a
user
base.
For
that,
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
how
you
imagine
us
being
able
to
reduce
operational
costs.
L
I
think
for
operational
costs.
Of
course
you
have
to
reduce
the
general
costs.
This
can
be
fuel
costs.
This
can
be
Insurance
costs.
This
can
be
cost
going
from
a
to
p
through
a
a
toast.
For
example,
for
example,
if
you
drive
an
EV
in
New,
York,
there's
no
toll
or
what
I
see
also
here
is
a
taxes
pay
on
higher
toll
because
it's
commercial
and
not
a
regular,
for
example,
in
New
York.
L
L
This
is
the
package,
the
the
small
business
which
can
operate
it
with
lower
costs
and
then
ways
how
to
find
more
people
using
this
product
and
I
always
say
you
have
to
listen
to
the
voice
of
the
person
who
pays
for
it,
and
this
is
the
passenger.
Nobody
else
pays
for
the
ride.
The
passenger
so
I
have
to
do
what
the
passenger
wants
so,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we
need
to
do
figuring
out.
What
does
the
passenger
want
and
give
them
also
access
right
now?
There
are
all
those
taxi
drivers
most
of
them.
L
O
L
It
doesn't
solve
the
the
problem,
because
you
know
it's
you
fight
against
the
billions
50
billion
dollar
companies,
you
don't
just
say:
hey
I
launched
an
app
who
has
hundreds
of
Millions
for
all
the
marketing
you
know.
So
you
have
to
really
focus
on
the
niches,
and
this
I
think
is.
This
is
the
main
thing
to
bring
business
back.
If
you
can
generate
more
business,
more
drivers
will
come
and
they'll
join
this.
This
party,
you
know
so.
L
E
B
I
B
Great
so
that
so
I
I'm
I'm
really
interested
in
that
I
think
that
that's
a
good
way
to
kind
of
move.
More
customers
there
I
I,
want
to
say
something
because
I
don't
want
to
ignore
what
I'm
sure
people
watching
and
what
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
in
terms
of
the
there
was
one
about
the
improve
the
reputation
before
Uber
and
Lyft
joined
The
Fray
I
was
one
of
the
late
adopters
and
so
I
was
not
using
Uber
and
Lyft
when
they
first
got
on
the
scene.
B
I
have
been
left
by
a
taxi
like
I,
have
not
been
picked
up
by
a
taxi
they've
like
I'm
like
taking
a
taxi
to
go
pick
up.
My
groceries
right
and
so
I
know
that
I'm,
young
and
so
people
look
at
my
generation
like
we've
always
been
online.
We
have
not
always
been
online.
I
was
you
know,
I
I
take
taxis,
and
so
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
that
because
you
work
with
taxi
drivers,
I'm
sure
that
you've
heard
like
you've
heard
all
of
this.
B
You
know
all
of
these
things,
and
so
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
what
that
looks
like
for
you
and
like
in
that,
because
you
can
change
the
reputation
by
changing
the
look
making
them.
You
know
hipper,
making
them
more
accessible
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
a
lot
of
people
have
bad
experiences
with
drivers
not
going
into
their
neighborhood
to
pick
them
up
I.
L
L
Tell
me
one
industry
where
you
don't
have
a
standard,
doesn't
matter
what
it
is,
yeah
taxes,
don't
because
you
see
them
as
thousands
of
little
single
people
driving
around
have
their
own
create
their
own
thing.
There
are
drivers
who
are
have
the
best
reputation
ever
yes,
and
there
are
some
who
have
the
worst
reputation
ever
and
also
there
is
no
standard
between.
So
this
is
also
something-
and
this
can
be
maybe
solved
as
training.
You
know
so.
Yeah.
B
L
L
B
Yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
that
and
I
I
appreciate
that
there's
an
understanding
and
also
kind
of
like
a
willingness
to
talk
about
that
and
my
last
question
is
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
identifying
city
of
Boston
Municipal
codes
that
could
address
like
Boston,
specific
TNC
issues.
So
you
know
the
mayor's
really
interested
in
the
green
New,
Deal
she's,
really
interested
in
climate
change.
Having
so
many
Uber
and
Lyft
cars
outside
is
just
killing
our
carbon
emissions,
it's
just
weak!
It's
untenable!
B
We
can't
have
that
many
cars
on
the
road
and
so
I'm
interested
in
kind
of
like
you
know
how
do
we
reduce
the
amount
of
cars
that
are
on
the
road,
but
we
also
get
the
doordash
instacart
delivery
drivers
they're
on
the
street,
they're
double
parking,
it's
just
a
free-for-all
right
and
it's
increasing
traffic
and
it's
just
hurting
the
city
because
nobody
can
get
anywhere
but
part.
The
other
side
of
that
is
that
we
can't
get
people
to
get
on
the
tee,
because
the
T
doesn't
function
so
right.
B
We're
kind
of
like
in
a
cash
22
of
like
working
with
the
state
to
make
sure
that
the
public
transportation
is
working
and
then
figuring
out
how
to
get
less
cars
on
the
road
and
so
I
think
that
taxi
is
kind
of
again
give
a
middle
Road
like
if
you're
talking
about
using
being
able
to
use
the
bus
lanes.
They
kind
of
also
help
us
manage
some
of
that.
But
what
would
you
say
are
like
other
boston-specific
TNC
issues
that
we
could,
through
ordinance,
really
help
regulate.
L
I,
don't
know
if
it's
possible
in
Boston,
but
what
New
York
did
is
they
kept
a
number
of
of
TNC?
So
they
have
like
a
fixed
number
and
you
cannot
have
additional
ones,
which
is
a
little
different,
because
in
New
York
they
need
a
license,
so
they
need
specific
yeah
TNC
plates
so
which
is
different
than
here
in
in
especially
in
Boston,
but
only
in
New
Yorkers
I
I
never
found
anything
about
here
in
Boston,
but
in
New
York
40
of
traffic
is
caused
by
tncs.
L
There
was
a
recent
study,
and
this
is
and
and
I
mean
Boston
is
the
number
one
in
traffic
in
U.S
I.
Think,
meanwhile,
thinking
about
something
like
that,
you
know,
you
don't
need
50
000
cars
if
they
can
be
operated
way
better
and
maybe
the
same
can
be
done
with
10
000
cars,
for
example.
For
because
don't
forget
those
cars
that
most
of
drivers
don't
live
in
in
in
Boston
they
come
in
and
out
drive
for
one
hour
for
two
hours
for
ten
hours
doesn't
matter,
but
this
constant
in
and
out
traffic.
L
N
I
just
want
to
say
that
when
I
drive
through
Boston
I
see
a
lot
of
urban
lists
that
are
out
of
state
plates
non-stop
yeah
surprisingly
I
see
a
lot
of
Florida
plates
with
the
Uber
lift
stickers
with
passengers
yeah
they
didn't
drive
up
from
Florida
they're,
picking
up
and,
and
that
seems
to
be
the
biggest
problem.
I
see:
Rhode
Island,
New,
Hampshire,
New,
York,
again
Florida,
all
those
neighboring
states
with
passengers
and
picking
up
they're
pulling
over.
B
N
A
B
N
K
And
many
of
them
also
have
a
New
York
TLC
played
on
them
taxing
Limousine
Commission,
which
is
one
of
the
bigger
slaps
in
the
face.
If
you're
a
Boston
cut,
because
the
thought
about
being
a
Boston
cab
cruising
the
streets
of
New
York
with
the
Massachusetts
and
Boston
plate
would
most
likely
you'd
be
arrested
at
that
point
in
time,
but
to
see
a
New
York
TLC
plate
all
over
the
city
on
a
regular
basis.
It's
kind
of
heartbreaking
for
a
lot
of
us
yeah,
okay,.
A
Yeah
I
had
thought
a
lot
about,
maybe
a
specialized
plate
for
the
tnc's
that
were
coming
in,
but
you're
absolutely
right,
Steve
they
just
they
rent,
rent
vehicles
and
it
doesn't
matter
where
the
plate
is
it's
it's
just
an
industry
that
has
no
really
no
guide
posts
at
all.
They
just
do
pretty
much
whatever
they
want
and
the
200
000
on
the
street
is.
We
can
see
it,
we
can
see
it
in
the
traffic
we've
had.
We
have
had
some
studies,
but
nothing
that
really
drills
down
and
shows
that.
A
L
This
is
in
the
best
time
in
New,
York,
550,
000
rights
a
day
were
performed
by
what
was
like
13
500,
taxis,
yeah
and
the
utilization
was
only
40,
so
they
could.
This
was
like
all
straight
years
yeah.
So
if
you
really
fully
operate
a
fleet
of
1800
caps
in
in
Boston
and
increase
the
utilization
to
maybe
60
70
percent,
which
is
doable
yeah,
you
can
transport
most
of
those
people.
Yeah
I
mean
this
is
just
you
have
to
see
like
the
utilization
from
everyone
is
just
very
low
caps.
L
What
do
they
have
these
days?
15
20,
the
same
is
like
Ubers,
it's
just
the
amount
of
cars
yeah.
So
if
you
reduce
them
and
with
smart
algorithm
technology,
you
can
do
that,
but
the
TNC
companies
they
don't
they
don't
care
because
for
them
it's
very
important.
As
you
have
your
right
in
a
minute,
you
know,
so
that's
why
they
have
always
10
times
more
cars
than
necessary.
You
know
because
this
is
the
whole
thing
as
fast
as
possible.
You
know
so.
L
A
Yeah-
and
here
we
are
back
again
in
part
of
I-
think
of
the
I'm
just
talking
about
taxis,
you
hear
a
lot
of
people
talk.
You
know
around
Christmas
time,
mostly
shop
local,
go
to
your
local
butcher.
Go
here.
Go
there
like
the
taxi
industry.
Is
how
you
shop
locally
for
this,
because
the
money
is
pretty
much
staying
here
and
I
like
the
idea
of
making
the
fleet
more
updated.
I
mean
it'll,
be
a
lot
to
go
electrified
Teslas.
A
L
L
Walfield
from
Transportation
also
cat
from
SL
from
mayor's
office,
environmental
was
was
a
part
and
I
was
I.
Also
was
mentoring.
Students
there
and
one
presentation
was
the
electrification
of
Boston
taxis.
I
can
look
it
up
extended.
It
was
very
interesting.
There
was
a
whole
bunch
of
a
lot
of
presentations
where
students
digged
into
problems,
and
what
was
very
interesting
is
the
the
conclusion
was
the
electrification
of
Boston
taxes
would
help
to
reduce
the
the
annual
Boston
Transportation
emissions
of
14.
Only
if
you'd
cover
Electrify
taxi.
L
L
L
Will
have
no
more
job,
you
know
if
they
come
with
all
their
lawyers
yeah
and
their
suggestion
was
investments
in
the
conversion
of
of
tax
into
electric
cars,
which
the
numbers
are
not
high,
I
mean
their
their
forecast
was
20
million
dollars
could
convert
most
of
the
taxes,
which
is
not
a
big
number
and
also
install
charging
and
infrastructure
and
provide
free
charging
for
the
drivers.
So
this
is
what
their
suggestion
of
the
presentation-
and
it
was
very
interesting,
yeah.
A
Okay,
I
think
I
I
think
we
need
to
I
think
it
was
Linda
or
Steve
talking
about
to
get
back
together
and
continue
the
discussions
that
we've
had.
Let's,
let's
have
this
as
a
working
sort
of
group
here,
I'll
make
myself
available
and
I'm
sure
console
hour
will
make
herself
available.
Also
I
think
maybe
and
I
know-
we've
gone
through
this
before
particular
changes
in
403
that
you'd
like
to
see.
A
A
So,
let's,
let's
figure
it
out
if
you,
if
we
want
to
do
a
working
session,
maybe
in
a
in
a
month
or
so
something
like
that,
which
is
where
we
come
with
more
solutions
and
the
one
thing
that
I
think
we
need
here
is
someone
from
this
Administration
is
to
get
in
their
head
of.
What's
you
know,
we
saw
the
last
couple
administrations
really
not
do
that
much.
So,
let's
see
if
this
Administration
will
help
us
a
little
more
and
see
what
they,
what
they're
prepared
to
do
for
the
taxi
industry
I.
B
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
appreciate
it.
I
know.
Everybody's
very
excited.
I
want
to
I
really
want
to
hear
from
the
drivers.
There
is
one
of
the
unions,
one
of
the
local
unions.
32Bj,
is
organizing
the
Uber
and
Lyft
drivers.
They
have
a.
They
have
like
a
massive
organization
of
the
Uber
and
Lyft
drivers,
because
they're
fighting
against
Uber
and
Lyft,
because
Uber
and
Lyft
doesn't
want
to
classify
them
as
employees.
They
take
a
bunch
of
their
money,
they
don't
offer
them
any
benefits.
B
You
know
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
the
reason
why
I
say
all
of
that
is
because
when
when
they
saw
that
I
filed
this
they
reached
out-
and
so
counselor
Baker
asked
a
question
earlier
that
was
like.
Why
is
this
better
than
driving
for
Uber
and
Lyft
and
I?
Think
that,
although
that's
not
maybe
a
question
that
we
can
answer
here
now,
when
you
talk
about
changing
the
reputations
of
the
taxis,
there
is
an
opportunity
workers
are
being
exploited.
B
They
are
unhappy
with
the
conditions
that
they
are
working
under,
and
the
taxi
industry
has
an
opportunity
to
provide
an
alternative
right.
You
want
to
increase
the
amount
of
drivers
you
have
all
of
these
drivers
that
are
fighting
against
Uber
and
Lyft
they're
organized
they're,
working
with
the
Union
right
like
these.
This
is
like
there's
an
opportunity.
There
is
an
opportunity
here
right
now
like
it's
like
strike,
while
the
iron
is
hot,
to
kind
of
really
be
very
clear
about
that
question.
Why
this?
And
why
not
that?
B
So
I
think
that
that's
also
something
that
I
would
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
with
the
the
cabinet
here
of
economic
inclusion.
In
terms
of
they
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
how
to
make
sure
that
Medallion
owners
had
access
to
the
grants
for
small
businesses,
and
it's
like
about
being
registered
as
an
LLC
and
like
there's
all
of
these
ways
to
do
it
and
so
providing
training
through
the
administration
to
these
cab
drivers
about
how
they
can
register
as
a
small
business
how
they
can
have
access
to
all
of
these
grants.
B
That
is
something
that
they're,
also
willing
and
open
to
do,
but
also
businesses
that
are
collectively
owned
with,
like
the
workers,
are
much
more
stable,
bring
much
more
income,
people
benefit,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
also
kind
of
like
you
know
for
your
company,
where
you're
like.
Oh,
we
have
maybe
30
people
transitioning
that
into
a
Cooperative.
B
Eo
model
really
helps
drivers
because
everybody
can
kind
of
tap
into
the
profit
and
the
benefit,
and
what
we
saw
during
covid
is
that
small
businesses
that
were
cooperatively,
owned
and,
like
you
know,
worker
owned,
survived
and
were
much
more
sustainable
and
we're
much
more
viable
during
the
pandemic.
So
I
think
that
that's
another
thing
to
consider.
That
is
all
that
I
have.
Thank
you
so
much
chair
for
indulging
me.
A
Thank
you
guys
and
we'll
go
into
working
session.
We'll
get
some
see
if
we
can
get
someone
to
sit
with
us
from
the
administration
to
see
what
the
path
forward
should
move.
You
know,
if
there's
an
appetite
for
any
legislation
on
on
you
know,
maybe
something
that
helps
to
tax
the
industry
that
we
have
to
level
on
the
Boomer,
lift
industry,
the
TNC
industry
it
and
not
to
to
add
on,
but
ultimately
the
Uber
and
lifters
looking
to
get
vehicles
with
no
driver
at
all.
A
So
there's
no
benefit
to
anybody
on
the
as
far
as
working
and
and
helping
their
families.
So
thank
you
guys
we'll
send
communication
out
on
the
next
steps
and
so
we're
going
to
go
to
public
testimony.
Now,
there's
a
spot
here
and
a
spot
here.
I'll
call
out
six
names,
so
you
can
line
up
three
and
three
here.
First
name
is
Valerie
babaljin
Alex,
Pierre,
Joseph,
B,
Pierre,
Gene,
r,
ory,
o-r-y-e,
I
believe
and
one
two
three
four
Rachel
meiselman
and
Raheem
Abbasi.
A
P
Yes,
but
my
question
is
you
have
no
power
whatever
to
accepted
it
because,
for
example,
I
want
to
Logan
Airport
I
get
a
customer,
get
it
coupons
from
the
city
and
I
say
I'm
going
to
drive
you,
but
more
likely,
I,
don't
know
where
to
cash
it,
because
we
are
independent
before
when
you
join
the
cab
company,
you
can
bring
it
to
the
cab
company.
Now
we
cannot
anymore
and
I'm
speaking
the
customer.
The
angel
that
airport
comes
in
you're
not
going
to
drive
the
assay.
P
It's
not
what
I
said:
I'm
gonna
drive
the
customer,
but
I
don't
have
nowhere
to
cash.
The
coupon
and
I
get
bunch
of
them
have
nothing
to
do
with
them
and
finally,
I
dropped.
The
customer
I
don't
get
paid
and
I
just
receive
a
notice
from
Logan
Airport
I
get
violation
for
fifty
dollars
and
if
I
don't
pay
it
I
won't
be
able
to
renew
my
license
is
fair
because
we
are
living
on
Lane
of
Justice.
A
P
P
Q
P
P
A
R
Welcome
good
afternoon
my
name
is
Valerie,
but
I'm,
mostly
known
as
Baba
to
most
people
and
I'm
a
new
driver
compared
to
these
other
guys,
I'm
a
proud
of
her
of
a
wave
Medallion
that
I
purchased
in
2019
and
since
I
purchased
my
wave
Medallion
every
year,
I
get
dropped
from
the
insurance
because
nobody
know
what
to
do:
there's
no
rules
and
regulation.
Every
year,
it's
like
I'm,
starting
a
fresh
with
my
business.
We
talk
about
the
elderly
and
the
handicapped,
there's
nowhere
for
me
to
go
to
requests.
My
equipment
is
more
expensive.
R
So
how
are
you
guys
going
to
help
me
because
we
had
a
nice
speech
on
behalf
of
the
elders
and
the
handicapped,
but
how
are
we
going
to
really
help
them
because
I
do
have
the
equipment
I
do
try
my
best
to
provide
it.
Everybody
knows
me,
as
the
main
handicap
driver
in
Boston,
so
how,
in
my
situation,
going
to
be
alleviated
when
I'm
trying
to
do
the
right
thing.
E
R
A
S
S
Let
me
underline
that.
10
to
12
years
ago,
we
were
looking
at
medallions.
The
value
full
disclosure
I
grew
up
in
the
taxi
industry,
like
some
others
in
this
room
and
my
father,
who
had
just
purchased
a
medallion,
was
looking
at
it
going
up
to
maybe
seven
or
eight
hundred
thousand,
because
in
New
York
they
were
looking
at
the
value
of
medallions,
hitting
1
million.
S
So
I
wanted
to
kind
of
underline
this
Stark
reality
before
I
go
into
some
misconceptions
about
the
industry,
because
I
patiently
listened
to
a
lot
of
people,
even
some
people
who
are
so-called
experts-
and
it's
really
clear
to
me
that
they
don't
know
entirely
what
they're
talking
about
okay.
So
when
we're
talking
about
Medallion
owners,
we're
talking
about
small
business
period,
it's
not
a
matter
of
a
piece
of
ten,
maybe
makes
these
owners
something
like
small
business
owners.
No,
they
are
small
business
owners.
S
S
S
The
issue
with
the
taxi
industry
is
that
a
lot
of
people
simply
again
don't
understand
it
if
you're
talking
about
Uber
and
Lyft.
That
is
not
the
same
thing
as
a
taxi
period,
although
I'm
going
to
say
that
it
should
be
because
Uber
and
Lyft
they're
not
a
technology
company
technology
companies,
they
are
in
the
private,
For
Hire
Transportation
Industries
and
they
have
hidden
behind
technology
to
avoid
the
regulations
that
taxi
owners
have
to
submit
to
you're.
Welcome.
S
Also
I've
heard
a
lot
about
how
there
are
high
percentages
of
immigrants
who
are
involved
in
the
taxi
industry.
That
well
may
be
true,
but
please
let
me
say
we
are
one
big
family,
and
so
we
don't
look
at
each
other.
As
oh
you're,
an
immigrant
you've
been
here
for
50
years,
your
family's
fourth
generation
We,
Are
One
family,
and
so
when
some
of
us
hurt
all
of
us
hurt.
A
S
S
These
taxi
stands
are
not
places
where
people
can
stop
and
eat
their
chicken.
Mcnuggets
pull
over
wait
for
someone
to
hop
out
of
a
store
their
taxi
stands.
Let
the
drivers
ply
their
trade
and
I
think
that
maybe
we
can
work
with
the
city
and
they
can
make
available
where
their
different
taxi
stands
throughout
the
city.
S
S
I
also
want
assistance
to
renew
or
to
jump
start
what
we
had
before
in
the
taxi
industry.
We
had
a
newspaper
Carriage
news,
I'd
like
to
see
that
again
and
then,
when
I
was
growing
up
and
when
I
was
getting
ready
to
go
to
college
I
was
able
to
benefit
from
send
a
taxi
man's
kid
to
college.
I'd
like
to
see
that
again.
S
Last
two
notes,
and
everyone's
being
so
great
I,
would
like
to
see
the
fight
that
is
starting
here
and
the
walls
of
ionella
chamber.
They
need
to
go
to
Beacon
Hill.
There
needs
to
be
a
partnership
between
counselors
and
state,
reps
and
state
senators.
We
can
have
Uber
and
Lyft
coming
in
from
everywhere
and
picking
up
when
Boston
City
cabs.
S
They
can
only
pick
up
here
in
Boston
and
then
lastly,
I'd
like
to
underline
the
need
to
recruit
new
Cab
new
cab
drivers,
because
the
population
is
aging
and
then
finally,
I
have
to
end
with
this
again,
it's
important
to
respect
the
people
in
this
industry.
They
are
professionals,
they
are
intelligent
and
they
are
trained.
Thank
you.
So
much
Council
Baker.
T
T
T
I
feel
sad,
mad
sick
when
I
see
my
city
with
god
with
time,
no
way.
No,
no
regulation.
When
I
when
I
said
regulation,
that's
me
iska,
you
don't
have
lessons
to
do
to
do
so.
You
don't
have
insurance
to
do
so,
not
formulated
black.
You
see
a
partition
when
I
said
regulation.
The
ethnicity
acts
a
private
car,
no
insurance.
T
A
T
U
And
thank
you
to
the
committee
on
Planning
Development
transportation
and
thank
you
to
my
friends
and
colleagues
for
showing
up
today.
My
name
is
Rahim
Abbasi
I'm,
a
lifelong
resident
city
of
Boston
for
the
past
12
years,
the
licensed
taxi
driver
and
in
as
many
years
my
life
has
been
turned
upside
down,
initially
started
driving
part-time.
When
I
was
a
young
man
for
some
extra
crash.
U
My
father,
an
immigrant
from
Pakistan
and
resident
of
Alston
Brighton
for
some
40
years
now,
advised
me
to
get
my
Hackney
license
when
I
was
21.,
he
said,
you'll,
never
know
when
you
need
it,
and
I'll
always
be
able
to
support
myself.
It
was
more
or
less
right
now,
whether
whether
it
was
after
I
quit
my
late
night
job
delivering
pizzas
or
in
between
semesters
at
UMass,
Boston
I
was
always
able
to
drive
a
cab,
make
money,
pay
bills
and
pay
my
tuition
and
even
have
some
spending
cash
on
the
site.
U
In
the
meantime,
the
value
of
medallions,
like
the
one
my
father,
bought,
Rose
and
Rose,
eventually
become
the
value
of
our
home
and
a
nice
neighborhood.
Both
cab
drivers
and
investors
put
down
thousands
of
dollars,
unheard
of
sums
for
working-class
Americans,
even
here
in
Boston,
to
secure
their
place
in
the
middle
class.
Many
thought
of
as
their
ticket
to
Financial
Security
in
an
age
of
uncertainty
then
came
the
Advent
of
smartphones
and
ride
hailing
apps.
We
all
know
the
story:
what
amounted
to
unlicensed
taxis,
prowling
the
streets
of
Boston
and
other
cities?
U
First,
taking
over
The
Late
Night
business,
where
cabbies
made
most
of
their
income
later
taken
over
the
lucrative
airport,
fares,
heading
out
of
town
and
eventually
even
seniors,
heading
to
the
doctor
for
a
checkup.
This
is
all
in
the
past
now,
and
the
era
of
six
figure
mortgages
for
medallions
is
I
originally
were
gone,
but
it's
it's
still
a
reality
for
a
lot
of
drivers
when
it
comes
to
the
city
of
Boston
what
they
can
do
to
Spur
the
recovery
in
revitalization
of
the
taxi
industry.
Here
are
a
few
principles.
U
We
should
keep
in
mind.
First,
one
Fair
meter
rates
for
drivers
and
costs
in
line
with
the
cost
of
living
in
the
region,
so
as
to
be
competitive
with
the
alternative
Services.
The
right
handling
app
is
usually
more
expensive
than
cabs.
Nowadays,
these
fares
should
provide
reasonable
rates
to
passengers
and
make
it
worthwhile
for
drivers
to
accept
all
trips.
U
You
know
we
just
heard
earlier
that
only
a
few
hundred
thousand
has
been
dispersed,
including
this
in
this
should
be
some
of
the
first
funding
for
a
fully
electric
electric
taxes
in
Boston
and
even
charging
stations
at
cab
sends
around
the
city
included
in
this.
We
should
also
recognize
that
the
taxi
industry
needs
to
be
integrated
and
recognized
as
part
of
the
public
transportation
Network
in
Boston
three
really
important
alone
forgiveness
and
refinancing
program
for
Medallion
owners
to
help
keep
cavities
on
the
road
if
they
wish
to
continue
working.
U
U
W
W
It's
no
longer
there,
so
that's
not
just
South
Station
they're,
taking
all
the
Caps
things
out,
they're
destroying
the
cab
industry
by
taking
only
thing.
This
is
why
you
don't
see
taxes
on
the
street
anymore.
Nowhere
to
No
Cap
stand
and
even
the
Gypsy
cabs
come
to
calves
and
take
in
passengers
out
saying,
hey,
I'll,
take
you
and
they
charge
three
times
the
amount
of
attacks.
W
W
You,
don't
see
any
meter
maid
any
taxi
and
plus
I
believe
somebody
said
a
dollar
on
week
we
spend
125
dollars,
we
pay
every
year,
every
taxi
owner
290
dollars
a
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
goes
for
a
senior
150,
not
125.,
for
the
senior
program
I
I
can
ask
around
here,
which
one
of
us
ever
see
one
of
these
coupon,
probably
once
a
year
once
a
year
we
miss
iwati
where's
this
money
going
I.
Try
to
add
it
up
for
1,
750
caps.
W
where's
that
money
going
because
she's
saying
that
I
mean
I
believe
she
said
that
it
goes
the
account
and
you
saw
we
don't
even
know
where
to
cash
that
our
own
money
we
paying
for
it.
It's
that
money
we
pay
for
that
money
and
we
don't
even
can't
even
cash,
for
it
can't
even
get
it
back
and
no,
we
don't
even
see
it.
I
can
ask
anybody
here.
W
B
F
F
X
Good
afternoon
yeah,
my
question
is
that
you
guys
want
to
help
us,
but
the
same
way
you
are
helping
us.
Other
people
are
killing
the
business
like
when
we
get
to
the
airport.
You
will
see.
Logan
Express
has
been
there
for
years.
They
keep
on
increasing
that
one
is
different
after
they
put
the
mbda
buses
to
a
big
passenger
for
free
from
the
airport.
X
The
former
major
said
it
was
a
temporary
after
I
became
permanent.
Now
they
put
new
bosses,
the
back
base
station
and
other
places
three
dollars
to
go
free
to
from
airport,
to
Bagby
from
bagby's
three
dollar
back
I'm
free
from
airport
to
Back
Bay.
So
how
are
you
happy
division
now,
if
you
give
us
Grant,
you
put
us
not
in
there.
So
when
we
are
in
depth,
there's
no
way
to
pay
back
the
our
load.
X
While
you
are
killing
the
business
in
the
other
way,
the
master
just
do
whatever
they
want
to
do
and
they
keep
on
increasing
free
bosses
to
the
airport.
While
we
are
there
sitting
down
Uber
idea,
picking
up
passengers,
we
sit
at
the
pool,
pay
2.25
to
go
into
the
pool.
Sometimes
two
hour:
three
hours
we
stay
there
forever
we
get
no
station
Seaport,
so
I,
don't
know
how
you
gonna
help
us
to
solve
this
problem.
Y
Y
You
have
to
spend
more
hours
outside,
so
you
don't
get
that
so,
but
if
you
gave
us
an
opportunity
at
least
to
make
18
hours
on
the
road
and
get
decent
money
to
feed
the
family,
that's
at
least
something
because
otherwise
we're
just
wasting
our
age
or
time
and
most
of
us
we
work
like
seven
days
a
week
too,
when
you
come
to
the
city
like
the
that
was
my
thought,
like
the
HOV
or
the
Vaseline,
the
cab
stand,
the
only
stand.
We
have
maybe
a
Prudential.
Y
Last
time,
I
had
even
a
fight
with
someone
who
was
picking
up
a
food
standing
in
the
cab
stand
and
I
have
to
pull
in
and
I
said.
I
cannot
stop
here,
he's
about
to
fight
with
me.
There
was
no
law
enforcement,
even
to
I
mean
we
used
to
see
that,
like
even
when
we
pick
up
someone
from
the
best
stuff,
the
NBTA
stop
we
used
to
get
a
ticket
like.
Even
you
not
stop.
You
know
picking
up
somebody
when
you
swing
by
nowadays.
Y
Even
you
don't
see
that,
like
no
no
law
enforcement
to
cooperate
with
the
cab
drivers,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
work
closely
with
the
massport
and
my
at
least
if,
if
the
mascot
can
consider,
oh
I
mean
the
not
the
mask
for
the
Easy
Pass
considered
the
thought
when
we
go
empty
to
the
airport,
because
that's
like
that's
why
he
said
like
four
hours
an
hour
at
four
dollars,
an
hour
which
is
we
deduct
that
2.65?
When
you
come
to
the
right
share,
they
pay
a
dollar
and
65.
There
is
a
difference.
Y
We
pay
extra
dollar
for
that
and
the
massport
also
I
I
wish
like
if
they
can
consider
like
the
support
or
short
trips.
Besides
South
Boston
I
mean
East
Boston
to
give
us
another
wave
for
the
toll
as
well.
When
you
come
to
the
hybrid
or
EV
cars,
why
the
partition
might?
What
is
the
problem
with
my
brother-in-law
car?
Y
He
had
purchased
a
200,
222
minivan
brand
new
and
he
had
some
problem
with
the
car
when
he
returned
it
to
the
company
he
couldn't
get
covered
by
the
warranty,
because
he
did
some
partitions
in
the
cab.
They
don't
support
and
the
meters
and
the
dashboard
they
say
like
it's
damaged,
so
we
don't
support
this.
We
don't,
and
that
was
a
really
easy
call
for
them
to
wave
your
warranty,
which
is
which
was
like
even
15
000
miles
on
the
car.
Y
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
here
is
why
ride
share
companies
refuses
the
fingerprint
that's
one
of
the
questions,
because
I
wish,
if
the
city
can
work
with
the
police
department
and
send
Undercovers
where
the
ride
share
drivers
holding
at
the
airport,
some
of
them
they
are
driving
with
influence,
and
if
you
see
that
they
drive
like
fast
on
the
some
breakdown
Lanes.
Even
one
of
the
Caps
recently
totals
due
to
the
right
share
company.
The
ride,
check
driver
came
a
wrong
way
and
I.
Don't
know
this.
Y
A
Z
Yes,
my
name
is
jimenezuelos
and
reason
why
we're
here,
as
you
guys
know,
I
start
driving
a
carbon.
My
early
20s,
now
in
my
late
50s,
these
people
has
been
driving
the
car
before
us
20
years
from
now
we're
still
in
home.
We
are
on
the
same
boat
and
we
see
the
business
just
go
by
us
and
they
take
the
business
away.
We
see
Captain
60
State
going
out
of
business.
This
is
the
most
busy
Captain
like
this
town.
You
know,
rush
hour
is
gone.
Z
If
you
go
on
Fenway
Park,
there
used
to
be
cops
and
it's
gone.
The
back,
Lane
take
it
over
and
one
time
I
was
passing
by
on
Boston
Street.
There's
a
police
acne
was
asking
me:
what
do
you
think
was
I
said
where's
the
captain.
He
said
we're
gonna
bring
them
back
six
months
later,
there's
no
caps
in
back
and
at
the
airport,
it's
in
whatever
we
do.
Nobody,
nobody
cares.
Z
The
cab
driver
is
usually
picking
up
people
from
the
airport,
late
night
shift
and
all
of
a
sudden
would
six
months
later
you
get
massport
put
Uber
on
the
top
of
the
cup
scene.
So
make
it
easy
for
the
Uber
people
for
forget
about
the
camera.
This
is
how
they
treat
us.
You
know
we
just
don't
know
why
and
we
love
driving
the
calves.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that
and
it
just
they
don't
they
don't
treat
us
right.
Z
A
AA
AA
AA
We
have
been
hearing
a
lot
of
words
here
and
somewhere
else,
even
in
the
car
in
the
car,
in
in
in
the
business
that
everybody
tries
to
help
us,
they
say
yes,
taxi
industry
should
not
be
like
this.
You
guys
been
there
and
then
we
know
the
addresses
we
know
where
to
go.
We
know
what
are
we
doing.
We
know
and
everything.
AA
AA
AA
I
really
don't
understand.
Who
is
working
with
us
other
than
sympathy
and
worms?
Where
is
the
action?
I
haven't
seen
that
there
is
no
justification,
that
what
is
happening
to
us
today
is
just
only
words,
but
we
are
painted
we're
working
seven
days
a
week,
we're
not
working
six
days,
we're
not
working
10
hours
or
12
hours.
We
were
working
16
hours
and
Beyond.
AA
AA
AA
How
much
I
am
paying
is
more
than
six
thousand
dollars,
then
where
is
it?
So
that
is
one
number
two.
Let's
say:
let's
talk
about
credit
card
machine
credit
card
machine
are
installed
in
the
car,
but
the
companies
they
are
not
there
to
fix
the
credit
card
machine,
I
paid.
Let
me
tell
you
how
it
works.
AA
All
the
credit
card
Mission
or
the
the
the
companies
close
their
shops,
Friday,
4,
pm,
Friday,
4
pm
they
closed
and
they
come
Monday
by
10
in
the
morning
and
if
you
have
a
broken
meter
on
Friday
night,
you'll
not
be
able
to
work
for
the
three
days,
can't
it's
illegal.
If
how
can
he
found
you?
There
was
three
pyramidalian
he
told
me
earlier.
They
have
the
right
to
strip
The
Medallion.
Take
it
away,
we
pay
money,
but
I,
don't
think
we
own
anything,
but
it's
not
true.
So
this
is
what
is
happening.
AA
AA
Why
are
we
target
six
percent
and
then
they
are
not
there
to
fix
it.
Look
who
is
working
with
us?
No
I,
don't
know.
Airport
is
the
same
thing.
Let's
say:
I'm
sitting
and
I'm
parking
in
Fenway
I
mean
Federal
Hall
sitting
there
waiting
for
a
customer
customer
comes
to
get
into
my
car
and
say
I'm
gonna
go
to
East.
Boston
I
cannot
refuse.
Yes,
I
have
to
take
him,
but
why
would
I
have
to
pay
the
toll
for
him?
AA
AA
AA
It's
not
I,
don't
know
who
did
this
policies,
but
it
is
there
that
we
pay
for
the
person.
Okay,
it's
there,
265
265,
also
my
time
and
then
I
don't
have
to
pay
for,
for
that.
I
don't
have
to
charge
the
customer
and
if
I
charge,
if
I
charge
the
customer.
You
report
me
to
Hackney
and
then
my
license
is.
AA
We
are
here.
We
are
there
not
only
when
it
is
70
degrees,
but
we
are
there
when
it
is
negative
or
below.
We
are
there
for
the
public,
but
the
public
need
to
respect
us.
The
police
officers
need
to
respect
us.
We
need
to
be
heard
where
we
are
trying
to
do
is
giving
a
service
also
making
a
living.
So
thank
you
for
doing
this.
We
really
appreciate
this
I
hope
you're.
Taking
this
lesson,
I
I
I
I.
Thank
you.
A
AB
Okay,
hello,
my
name
is
Nancy
tatunjan,
my
husband
started
driving
a
cab,
and
this
gentleman
right
here
suggested
it
to
him
because
he
was
always
already
already
driving,
and
that
was
about
45
years
ago
my
husband
drove
for
a
while,
not
too
too
long.
You
know
it
was
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
and
he
bought
his
first
Medallion.
He
paid
32
thousand
dollars
for
it.
AB
AB
I'm
really
very,
very
happy
that
you
had
this
hearing
the
past
to
administrations.
I
feel
really
dropped
the
ball.
One
reason
I
feel
that
people
don't
come
into
the
industry
is
because
it's
sort
of
maybe
general
knowledge,
at
least
within
the
industry,
that
the
city
didn't
really
care
and
there's
no.
There
was
no
incentive
to
to
get
involved,
not
by
the
city.
They
should
have
been
incentive
to
get
involved.
I
mean
Outsiders
to
come
into
the
business.
AB
Excuse
me
not
only
did
Uber
and
Lyft
come
in,
but
the
Hackney
Department
in
the
police
department
was
gutted.
I
believe
there
are
only
two
officers
now,
and
so
there
is
nobody
to
go
out
and
monitor,
what's
happening
on
the
road
to
get
Gypsy
cabs
or
Ubers
sit
where
there
are
taxi
stands,
Ubers
sit
there
I
own
I'm,
a
medallion
owner
and
drivers
who
drive
our
vehicles
have
complained
to
me
and
I.
AB
Don't
know
what
to
do
about
it,
that
Ubers
sit
in
the
stands
and
there's
nobody
to
enforce
to
make
them
leave,
and
so
the
taxis
that
are
there
can't
get
into
the
cab
stands.
There's
a
lot
of
little
incidents
like
that
that
so
numerous
to
talk
about,
but
the
taxi
drivers
are
really
getting
the
raw
end
of
the
deal
and
the
owners
are
too
so
I
I
really
do
hope
that
you
take
this
into
consideration.
The
city
needs
a
an
upgraded
image
within
the
taxi
industry
because
it's
been
very
frustrating
for
a
long
time.
AB
AB
Both
the
senior
coupons,
the
290
dollars
that
everybody
pays.
Medallion
owners
pay
a
year.
That's
partly
The
Medallion
renewal,
the
meter
seal,
which
is
required.
You
have
to
pay
the
or
it's
expected
that
you
will
pay
the
meter
seal
and
the
senior
coupons
even
on
medallions
that
are
sitting
on
the
shelf.
So
the
really
weird
part
of
it
is
that
you're
paying
for
meter
seal
where
there's
no
car,
there's
no
seal.
AB
A
AB
Honest
I,
I,
no
I
didn't
and
nothing
happened,
but
at
the
end
of
the
year,
I
got
all
my
checks
back
for
the
medallions
that
I
had
paid
The
Medallion
renewal
only
and
and
so
those
those
medallions
were
not
paid
the
renewal
and
so
now
I
guess
they
are
vulnerable
to
being
seized.
I,
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
I'm
I'm
playing
a
little
Russian
Roulette
here,
but
this
year
again,
I'm
going
to
do
the
same
thing,
because
I
just
think
it's
very
unfair
and
sometimes
you
have
to
take
a
stand.
AB
The
senior
coupons
as
I
say,
I
haven't
I,
didn't
pay
him
on
those
medallions,
but
even
the
medallions
that
I
have
on
the
road
and
that
I
am
paying
the
full
fees
for
my
understanding
and
I
I.
Don't
I
have
not
seen
this
myself,
but
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
millions
of
dollars
that
have
accumulated
in
that
fund
for
The
Medallion
for
the
senior
coupons
and
I
I
think
maybe
for
some
period
of
time,
some
period
of
years.
AB
AC
AC
That's
only
could
happen
if
City
help
us
to
bring
one
app
for
all
Boston
cabs
under
one
Command.
Center
help
us
to
marketing
the
taxi
service
on
their
bed
on
their
on
their
billboard
on
the
sidewalk
of
the
streets.
City
has
a
billboard.
You
know
everywhere
in
a
downtown.
If
you
help
us
the
taxi
service,
this
will
help.
AC
So
we
need
City
must
create
a
diverse
team
with
members
from
the
city
and
the
taxi
stakeholder
to
address
the
taxi,
Innovation
and
Improvement
Hackney
Department
good
to
enforce
the
rules
only,
but
not
for
business
Improvement,
renewing,
The,
Medallion
and
Licensing
must
be
online.
We
cannot
find
space
for
Park
less
than
mile.
Whenever
we
go
drop
the
application
at
The
Happening,
there
isn't
no
parking
available.
We
have
to
go
far
away.
Some
drivers.
There
really
is
very
old.
They
cannot.
You
know
it's
very
hard.
Like
me,
I'm
a
heart
patient,
it's
very
hard
to
walk.
AC
You
know
like
from
a
mile
and
a
half
looking
for
parking
then
come
to
the
Hackney
drop.
You
know
your
renew
application,
so
I
think
this
will
be
good
if
you
force
them
to
have
a
you
know:
everything
renewing
The,
Medallion
and
licensing
on
the
online.
So
you
know
the
city
of
Cambridge.
They
did
a
very
good
job.
I
have
a
campus
in
Cambridge
I.
Did
everything
online
I
pay
online
I
fill
up
the
application
online
I
didn't
have
to
go
to
the
city.
To
do
anything
just
on
computer
and
taxi
stand.
AC
You
know
there
is
a
lot
of
taxi
stands
is
disappearing,
but
is
one
of
the
most
busy
taxi
stand?
Is
it
taken
away
60,
State
Street?
This
is
right
in
a
financial
district
and
it
used
to
be
like
20
caps
we
park
on
the
State
Street.
We
need
that
back.
Please,
that's!
We
really
really
request,
because
only
few
stands
are
busy
in
the
city
of
Boston.
One
is
a
Prudential.
One
was
a
60
State
Street.
So
if
you
give
us
a
stand
back,
we
will
really
appreciate.
AC
State
is
right
here:
60,
State,
yeah
yeah,
exactly
South
Station
is
a
totally
different,
yeah
Gypsy
cabs.
Oh
the
tolls
I
just
hand
to
you
this,
the
the
Hackney
enforcing
the
driver.
When
you
go
to
renew
your
license,
they
enforce
you
to
sign
this
paper,
so
you
don't
charge
the
people
going
to
East
Boston.
This
is
unfair.
Why?
AC
Because
the
masporter
charge
us
2.65
cents
example,
if
you
pick
up
from
Faneuil
Hall,
going
to
East
Boston
what
what
the
fare
is
going
to
be
eight
dollars,
seven
dollars
and
you
pay
265
from
your
pocket.
You
only
end
up
with
a
five
dollar
or
four
dollar,
so
this
is
a
really
unfair.
Why
they
enforcing
when
we
are
paying
the
toll
so
they're
enforcing
us
to
not
collect
from
the
customer.
This
is
unfair.
It
should
be
amended
so
Gypsy
cabs,
lot
of
guys.
Working
with
the
you
know.
AC
Private
cars
Vans
has
a
taxi
sign
on
the
top,
but
a
Hackney
failed
to
stop
them
just
a
day
before
I
can
hand
to
you
when
I
leave.
You
see
this
private
car
has
a
taxi
sign
on
it.
Working
at
the
South
Station
I
talked
to
him.
I
said
that
this
is
illegal.
Why
are
you
doing
that?
He
said
what
does
that
mean?
I
said:
do
you
not
have
supposed
to
have
a
taxi
sign?
You
don't
have
a
medallion
in
your
private
car.
He
says
so
what?
AC
AC
So
meter
increase
our
living
expensive
end
operating
expensive
are
doubled.
The
last
time
we
got
raised
in
2008
and
please
you
know
we
want
40
cents
per
mile
to
be
increased
because
before
mile
is
divided
into
seven.
So
if
you
divide
it
to
eight,
so
is
really
really
help
us
to
get
the
few
more
back
in
our
pocket
I.
We
really
appreciate.
AC
Yes,
please
that's
how
I
think
it
will
be
very
fair
and
we
will
be
still
cheaper
than
ride
share
companies
because
they
are
charging
from
airport
to
this
time.
If
you
check
a
rhino
Uber
app
from
airport
to
here,
they're
about
like
49
bucks,
the
taxis
only
we
make
like
17
19
bucks,
so
people
still
paying
them.
If
we
get
a
40
cents
per
mile,
I
think
we
will
be
in
a
good
handy.
You
know
we
will
make
a
little
more
money
and
we
will
be
really
appreciate
you
and
thank
you
for
your
help.
AC
O
Hi
I'll
try
to
make
this
really
quick,
I'm,
don't
even
I've
never
had
a
driver's
license.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
perspective
as
a
passenger
who
does
rely
on
the
MBTA
and
Medallion
cabs
good
afternoon,
and
thank
you,
counselors,
Baker
and
Laura
for
holding
this
hearing.
When
this
docket
was
initially
referred
to
committee
I
believe
a
city
councilor
said
something
along
the
lines
of
how
his
father
or
grandfather
was
a
taxi
driver.
O
So
now
the
public
has
found
the
magic
formula
of
how
to
Advocate
and
persuade
for
measures
by
this
body
to
materially
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
Boston
residents,
visitors
and
employees
of
Boston.
City
councilor
has
been
personally
impacted
by
something
in
order
to
see
the
value
of
the
public
being
given
a
chance
to
speak
on
how
it
impacts
their
lives.
Good
to
know,
it
appears
that
this
Boston
City
councilor's
daddy
issues
have
afforded
us
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
need
of
revitalizing
the
taxi
industry
in
Boston
per
docket
number
zero.
O
Three
four
two:
the
taxi
industry
has
struggled
to
compete
with
Rideshare
companies
in
Boston.
The
struggle
is
the
result
of
Boston's
Municipal
government's
own
failures
to
help
this
crucial
industry
Thrive.
My
parents
did
not
have
cars
when
I
was
growing
up
in
Boston
and
for
transportation
needs
such
as
bringing
groceries
up
the
street
from
Purity
Supreme
to
Boden
Geneva
or
arriving
at
appointments
at
Boston,
Children's
Hospital,
both
Medallion
taxis
and
what
are
colloquial
referred
to
as
Gypsy
cabs,
have
helped
low-income.
O
Working-Class
families
like
mine,
address
such
Transportation
challenges
in
the
city
in
my
mid-20s
after
the
occasional
7
pm
to
2
A.M
shift
at
the
glass
slipper
Medallion
taxi
cabs,
where
godsend
as
safe
and
trusted
Transportation
after
the
club
closed
for
me
to
make
it
home
safely.
The
business
relationships
that
slipper
employees
develop
with
Boston
Medallion
taxis
allow
both
Industries
to
support
one
another,
no
small
feat
in
the
city
that
always
sleeps,
coupled
with
Boston's
utter
lack
of
a
viable
nightlife
and
nightlife
economy.
O
Never
in
my
life
has
a
Boston
Medallion
cab
driver
subjected
me
and
other
passengers
to
the
predatory,
unethical
and
damnary
legal
behaviors
of
Rideshare
drivers
in
Boston.
I
recall
one
night
when
a
friend
called
a
lift
for
me.
So
I
could
get
to
the
Harvard
campus
and
study
in
the
science
center.
The
Lyft
driver
repeatedly
asked
me
if
I
was
sure
that
I
wanted
to
be
dropped
off
at
Oxford
Street
in
Cambridge.
O
He
seemed
inexplicably
upset
that
my
requested
drop-off
was
not
a
residential
address
and
refused
to
let
me
out
of
his
vehicle,
as
he
continued
to
drive
true
story
when
I
calmly,
but
firmly
explained
to
him
that
he
was
risking
getting
a
kidnapping
charge.
If
he
did
not.
Let
me
out
of
his
car,
he
became
verbally
abusive
berating
me
with
anti-black
racial
slurs,
I
flagged
down
some
Cambridge
police
officers
and
gave
him
the
description
of
the
gave
him
the
name
physical
description
and
make
model
and
license
plate
of
his
car.
O
On
another
occasion,
a
friend
of
mine
called
me,
a
lift
as
I
left,
the
Harvard
campus
to
return
to
my
art
studio
in
Roxbury
after
taking
a
circuitous
route
and
feigning
like
he
could
not
understand.
English,
the
Lyft
driver
brought
me
to
Transportation
way
at
General
Edward
Lawrence,
Logan,
International
Airport
in
East
Boston,
a
long
way
from
Roxbury
and
just
driving
straight
down,
Massachusetts
Avenue
to
get
to
Nubian
Square.
O
There
is
not
enough
time
in
this
testimony
to
fully
account
for
the
sheer
Terror
and
criminal
behavior
of
Rideshare
drivers
employed
by
Uber
and
Lyft
in
Boston,
but
my
experiences
are
hardly
uncommon
and
I
want
to
reiterate
through
inaction,
corporate
greed,
worship
of
money
and
self-serving
arrogance,
both
the
past
and
present
mayoral
administrations
and
the
Boston
city
council
have
allowed
these
behaviors
to
thrive.
It's
not
just
a
matter
of
incompetence
from
this
body.
You
really
seem
like
you,
don't
care
about
anyone,
but
yourselves
with
the
exceptions
of
counselors,
Baker,
Mejia,
Murphy
and
Laura.
O
You
all
short
passed
that
residential
picketing
coordinates
really
fast.
You
did
this.
Yes,
you
you!
Let
Rideshare
companies
who
routinely
double
Park
an
MBTA
bus
lanes
obstruct
And,
Delay,
MBTA
service.
You
let
Rideshare
drivers
who
literally
pollute
and
soil
our
air
as
they
sit
idling
wafting
exhaust
fumes
in
the
city's
air.
You
let
Uber
and
Lyft.
Drivers
who
routinely
refuse
fares
to
Dorchester,
Roxbury
and
Mattapan
under
the
biased
pretext
at
Dorchester,
is
too
far
leave
vulnerable
Boston
residents
in
the
night
in
the
dark
of
the
night.
O
In
reality,
the
only
thing
that's
all
the
only
thing
that's
gone
too
far
is
the
tyrannical
emergence
and
begrudging
prominence
of
Rideshare
companies
in
Boston,
as
well
as
Boston
city
council's
unchecked
and
confidence
respective
to
the
taxi
industry
that
has
gone
too
far.
I
usually
stand
before
this
body,
either
naively
offering
practical
comments
and
solutions
or
lodging
criticisms
that
the
competency
or
lack
thereof
of
Boston's
municipal
government
I
closed.
My
testimony
here
today
by
stating
simply
respect
the
taxi
drivers
and
their
passengers,
listen
to
them
work
with
them
and
take
action
to
support
this
industry.
O
AD
AD
Oh,
you
know
when
we
go
to
the
airport
empty,
we
pay
that
in
our
pocket.
It's
a
painful
thing
for
us,
you
know
sometimes
downtown
is
nothing.
We
have
nothing
nothing
to
do
in
downtown,
no,
no
business.
We
have
to
go
to
the
airport
when
we
go,
we
have
to
pay.
265
is
coming
from
our
pocket.
Sometimes
the
job.
Does
it
go
anywhere,
but
Hotel
someday.
We
can
find
a
good
job
too,
but
sometimes
mostly
we
waiting
for
like
two
hours.
We
got
support
Boulevard
so
that
265
come
out
on
our
pocket.
AD
That's
the
only
problem
hit
us
alone.
We
all
have
the
same
problem
going
to
the
airport
empty.
We
can
nothing
in
downtown
Boston.
We
have
no
job
anymore.
We
better
take
over
everything,
leave
everything
we
have
nothing.
We
have
to
go
to
the
airport
empty
and
you
know
that's
the
problem.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
If
we
can
seek
that
for
us,
I'll
be
fully
glad.
AD
AE
My
name
is
Joyce
Rodriguez,
Joyce,
Rodriguez,
Rodriguez,
g-o-e-s,
Joyce,
Rodriguez,
okay
and
I.
Just
am
here
to
commemorate
the
cab
drivers.
I
want
to
remind
the
city
of
Boston
that
when
you
are
in
need
who
comes
to
you
for
your
help,
it's
the
city
of
Boston,
my
dad
drove
in
the
Blizzard
of
78
when
there
was
only
essential
workers
along
with
Emilio.
What's
your
dad's
name,
Amino
garafalo,
Steve
Goldberg,
my
friend
Vinnie
Angie's,
dad
George
Sumner,
and
whoever
else
was
here
who
drove
in
the
Blizzard
of
78.
AE
While
we
were
little
kids
watching
our
dad
go
out,
he
was
driving
my
mother
to
the
airport
because
they
called
her
in
to
see
if
she
could
help
with
the
security.
He
was
loaded
in
six
seven
girls
at
a
time
and
he
was
driving
home
Ted
Kennedy
because
he
had
no
ride
home
because
he
could
at
least
clear
the
air
to
get
to
Washington
or
wherever
he
was
going.
Then
let
me
tell
you
about
9
11.
I
was
a
customer
care
manager
at
Delta
Airlines.
We
were
working
literally
40
hours
a
day.
AE
Those
girls
were
running
down,
jumping
in
a
cab.
There
was
a
cab
every
minute
of
the
day,
getting
them
home,
getting
them
teeth,
getting
them
right
back
to
Delta
Airlines.
We
worked
around
the
clocks
and
it
was
our
Boston
calves,
yep
and
then
I
will
also
tell
you.
Covid
came
what
else
I
had
here.
There
was
something
else,
but
I
can't
find
it,
but
covet
came
Dan
Eagle
got
covert
together.
They
had
to
be
only
12
guys,
though,
that
worked
during
Colvin,
my
husband
right
there
Indian.
He.
AE
There
he
is
who's
married
to
the
wife
with
the
big
mouth.
He
was
driving
all
hours
of
the
day,
running
home,
jumping
in
the
shower
getting
back
to
BMC
cleaning
the
cab
for
ten
dollars,
then
just
they
send
him
over
to
the
Mass
General
Hospital
Mass
General
would
send
him
over
to
Suffolk
to
the
dorms
down
to
Fall.
River
come
home,
clean
up
again,
take
another
shower
and
me
and
my
kids
were
living
in
the
house
with
him.
AE
While
everybody
else
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts
was
nice
home
and
comfortable
collecting
money
and
not
working,
and
yet
you
had
cab
drivers
who
care
for
the
city,
and
this
is
what
you
two
have
to
relate
these
guys
care
for
the
city
and
if
something
happens
outside
right
now,
every
one
of
them
won't
even
ask
you
they'd
get
up
and
run
out
to
go
help,
and
this
is
what
you
got
to
know.
They
got
it
right
here.
That's
all
I
have
choice
where
you
from.
AE
A
AF
Thank
you
for
hosting
this
I
was
listening
before
I
got
here
in
person
and
just
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
thank
you
for
holding
this
I
love
the
hearings
when
we
actually
hear
from
the
constituents
their
concerns
and
there's
lots
of
action
steps
we
can
take
from
here
to
support.
So
thank
you
for
holding
this
hearing.
AF
A
I
AG
AG
We
really
have
an
issue
with
the
Uber
and
Lyft
companies
have
taxi
signs
on
top
of
their
cards
that
say
physically,
they
say
taxi
when
you're
not
doing
Rideshare
they're
parking
at
the
cat
stands
acting
as
Gypsy
caps,
I
mean.
Where
do
you
go
with
that?
You
call
the
police,
they
tell
you,
it's
not
our
matter.
I've
done
it
plenty
of
times.
You
call
the
State
Police,
you
call
9-1-1,
you
call
say
that's
not
our
problem,
I
mean
where's
it
going
to
go
I
mean.
AG
I
AG
AG
I
think
the
problem
is
is,
is
is
a
little
bit
bigger
than
the
40
cents
or
the
20
cents
that
or
or
even
a
two
dollar
I
mean
it's
all
an
issue,
but
I
mean
this
is
really
I
mean
you
really
gotta.
You
know,
take
a
hot
look
at
this
and
see
you
know.
What's
what's
going
on
what
what
what
really
is
happening
here?
A
I
A
A
H
Yeah
I
just
want
to
add
one
more
thing.
It's
really
the
rest
good
points
in
the
past
when
we
park
on
taxi
stand,
even
the
number
of
allowed
taxes
on
a
given
taxi
stand.
If
it's
six
and
for
some
reasons,
sevens
taxi
is
Target
there,
the
Boston
Transportation
division,
they
used
to
come,
give
a
ticket
or
Force
you
out
to
live,
but
I
don't
see
that
anymore.
When
I
see
an
Uber
driver
or
a
gypsy
taxi
driver
on
a
regular
Boston
taxi
stand.
H
When
you
call
the
number
they
said
they
will
send
someone
over
and
they
don't
really
send
anybody
they.
The
last
time
I
talked
to.
They
said
there
are
month
or
short,
so
we
really
need
the
Boston
transportation
department
to
go
around
check
taxi
standards
and
give
tickets
violation
tickets
for
illegally
Market
cars.
H
A
B
Thank
you,
chair
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
For
me,
it's
very
much
highlighted
what
the
necessary
changes
are,
and
some
of
them
are
very
small
and
simple,
and
some
of
them
are
very
big
and
I.
Think
that
counselor,
Baker
and
I
have
been
having
a
lot
of
conversations
here
about
what
are
the
entry
points
to
fix
some
of
these
issues?
B
This
is
not
going
to
be
the
last
hearing
we're
going
to
keep
having
hearings
to
bring
other
people
from
the
administration
into
here
from
more
of
the
drivers,
but
I
think
that
the
reality
is
that
we
didn't
do
enough.
We
didn't
do
anything.
I
would
say
10
years
ago,
when
Uber
and
Lyft
was
coming
into
the
city
to
support.
B
Think
that
now
we
have
to
correct
for
that
and
there's
an
opportunity
for
correction,
I've,
I,
understand,
I,
think
one
of
the
things
that
stuck
out
to
me,
the
most
about
the
public
testimony
was
a
statement
that
said
that
the
city
of
Boston
needed
to
realize
that
their
city
of
Boston
Medallion
holders
are
an
integral
part
of
the
city's
public
transit
Network,
and
that
is
how
I'm
thinking
about
this
right.
I'm,
just
like
this
is
this-
is
the
this
is
a
Transit.
B
This
is
a
part
of
of
our
public
transit
Network
and
Uber
and
Lyft
are
the
private
for-profit.
You
know
kind
of
like
the
greedy
companies
coming
in
and
trying
to
really
extract
money
from
our
cities
and
that's
money
and
resources
that
could
be
going
to
our
families,
who,
like
was
just
mentioned
by
Joyce,
give
everything
to
this
community
raise
their
children
here,
send
their
kids
to
school
here
and
so
I'm
committed
to
continue.
B
A
V
V
V
When
I
came
back,
I
started
driving
the
cab
again
and
I
did
that
for
a
couple
of
years
and
one
of
the
veteran
drivers-
and
he
was
a
veteran
took
me
under
his
wings-
he
said:
you're
a
nice
young
man,
you
work
hard,
you
should
own
your
own
taxi
and
he
helped
me
with
me
working
two
jobs
for
six
years
to
get
the
down
payment
to
buy
a
cap
and
I
saw
his
home.
He
had
six
cabs,
he
lived
in
West
Westwood,
so
I
was
encouraged.
V
V
V
We
were
here
all
the
cab
drivers
and
a
lot
of
the
parents
of
a
lot
of
these
people.
We
supported
the
city,
we
made
it
what
it
is.
We
were
the
only
ballgame
in
town,
millions
of
tourists
coming
in
we
service
them
all
the
businessmen
coming
into
town,
all
the
students
we
delivered
the
packages.
We
did
everything
and
once
the
city
was
revitalized
and
doing
fantastic,
like
we
told
everyone
they
got
in
the
cab,
all
the
visitors.
V
Now
these
people
come
in,
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
get
evasive
species
and
they
ruined
the
city.
I
think
traffic
wise,
there's
thousand
on
the
road
and
they
just
ride
around
once
they
bring
in
someone.
They
don't
go
back.
They
hang
around
the
city,
hundreds
of
them,
it's
like
having
a
baseball
game
getting
out
every
every
hour,
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
these
guys,
they
they
service
this
city
and
meet
a
lot
of
the
people
coming
from
overseas.
V
A
And
thank
you
for
everyone
for
coming
out
tonight.
We
obviously
know
that
you
guys
are
invested
in
our
city.
We
thank
you
for
investing
in
our
city.
Thank
you
for
building
your
businesses
here
and
we
are
going
to
try
and
help
you
as
best.
We
can
we'll
start
meeting
regularly
on
this
and
and
go
from
there.