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City Services & Innovation Technology Hearing - Dockets #0144, Order for a hearing to discuss pest control in the City of Boston. #0443- Order for a hearing to discuss trash contracts and procedures in Boston. #0611-Message and order to accept and expend a grant for the Recycling Dividend Program to fund curbside recycling and other programs and policies proven to maximize reuse, recycling and waste reduction.
A
Calling
this
hearing
to
order
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Kenzie
Bach
I'm,
the
district
8
City
councilor,
and
also
the
chair
of
the
Boston
City
councils
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation.
Technology
today
is
April
11th
2023.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
it's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov,
city-council,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN,
channel
82
and
FiOS
channel
964..
A
You
can
send
written
comments
on
this
hearing
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.csit
boston.gov.
Those
will
be
made
part
of
the
public
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
and
I
want
to
thank
folks
who
have
already
sent
us
in
written
testimony.
We've
gotten
some
great
written
comments
we'll
also
be
taking
public
testimony
in
this
hearing.
A
So
if
you
want
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
here
in
the
chamber,
I
know
some
of
you
have
done
this
already,
but
you
can
sign
up
on
those
sheets
in
the
corner
and
if
you
are
watching
from
home-
and
you
want
to
testify-
please
email,
Megan,
Kavanagh
at
Meghan,
dot
k-a-v-a-n-a-g-h
at
boston.gov,
that's
megan.kavanaugh
at
boston.gov,
for
the
link
and
Megan
will
send
you
that
and
add
your
name
to
the
list.
So
today's
hearing
is
on
three
dockets.
A
We
are
taking
care
of
a
comparatively
small
recycling
dividend
program
Grant.
So
that's
docket0611
message
and
Order
authorizing
the
city
of
Boston
to
accept
and
expand
the
amount
of
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
form
of
a
grant
for
the
recycling
dividend
program
awarded
by
the
mass
Environmental
Protection
division
to
be
administered
by
the
public
works
department,
the
grant
will
fund
curbside
recycling
and
other
programs
and
policies
proven
to
maximize
Reuse,
Recycling
and
waste
reduction.
A
That
matter
was
sponsored
by
the
administration
and
referred
to
the
committee
on
March
22nd
2023
and
then
the
two
main
events
are
a
pair
of
dockets.
One
is
docket0144
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
Pest
Control
in
the
city
of
Boston.
That's
co-sponsored
by
council
president
Ed
Flynn,
councilor,
Liz,
Braden
and
counselor
Gabriella
Coletta,
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
January,
11,
2023
and
then
doc
at
zero.
A
So
that's
why
we
put
these
two
things
together
and
I'm,
grateful
to
all
the
co-sponsors
and
I
know
a
few
of
them
will
be
joining
in
a
minute.
Just
a
little
bit
late,
we
did
start
this
hearing
early
and
thank
you
to
everybody
who
accommodated
your
schedules.
I
think
folks
know
that
Mel
King's
funeral
is
this
afternoon.
Obviously
we
didn't
know
that
at
the
time
that
we
scheduled
the
hearing,
but
we
didn't
want
to
cancel
it.
A
So
I
will
go
first
briefly
to
my
colleagues
just
for
quick
opening
statements
and
then
I
will
go
to
the
panel
I'll
ask
Dennis
to
address
the
recycling
Grant
and
then
we'll
move
into
this
broader
conversation
about
pests
and
the
trash
contract
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
So
Council
Braden
yeah
before.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
morning.
This
is
a
perennial
conversation.
I
think
it's
a
really
timely
one.
Just
before
we
launch
into
our
budget
conversations
to
check
in
with
progress
on
trash
control,
trash,
recycle
trash
and
recycling
and
also
Pest,
Control
I,
don't
know,
I
think
our
our
neighbor.
B
My
my
district
is
particularly
impacted
by
the
issue
of
rodents
and
a
lot
of
it
is
driven
by
inappropriate
trash
disposal
and
and
just
in
inadequate
trash
containers
Etc
that
as
control
box
said,
these
two
issues
are
very
very
intricately
related
to
each
other
and
I,
really
look
forward
to
the
conversation
this
morning.
I
know
we're
constantly
sort
of
trying
to
push
the
envelope
and
see
if
we
can
identify
any
other
tools
in
the
kit
that
we
can
use
to
address
this
issue.
B
I
know
from
talking
to
neighbors
and
and
constituent
calls
that
young
people
are
finding
rats
in
their
apartments
in
their
apartment.
Buildings
and
families
are
finding
they
won't
door
to
put
their
kids
out
and
let
their
kids
out
play
out
in
the
yard
because
they've
rodents
running
around.
So
it's
a
very
distressing
issue
for
so
many
of
our
residents
and
I
just
hope.
We
just
continue
to
push
the
envelope
and
see
if
we
can
improve
the
situation.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
this
morning.
C
Thank
you
for
holding
both
together.
Also,
like
you
said,
trash
and
rats
go
hand
in
hand.
So
in
my
neighborhood,
in
Dorchester
on
my
street,
as
we've
spoken,
several
times
is
a
rat
issue.
There's
also
apartment
buildings
and
we've
talked
about
ways
to
support.
How
we
put
the
trash
out
when
we
put
it
out
and
I
know
you
guys
are
experts
in
you,
know
the
food
and
what
how
to
stop
the
rats
and
making
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
possible
and
I
know.
We've
spoken
about
the
walks
with
the
neighborhoods
and
the
you
know.
C
The
information
I
think
the
more
we
push
out
that
information
to
residents
on
how
they
can
be
proactive
and
supporting
this.
It's
not
just
the
trash
pickup
side
of
it.
It's
also
informing
people
in
every
language
and
every
neighborhood,
the
best
ways
to
store
their
trash
and
put
out
their
trash,
and
so
just
looking
forward
to
this
conversation.
It's
such
a
quality
of
life
issue
and
we
are
coming
up
to
budget
season.
C
So
it's
good
time
to
find
out
if
your
department
needs
more
resources
so
that
we
can
deliver
on
what
I
would
say
is
one
of
the
number
one
concerns
when
it
comes
to
Quality
of
Life
issues
and
I
know.
The
311
data
shows
also
most
a
lot
of
their
calls
that
come
into
3-1-1
are
related
around
trash
pickup
and
concerns
around
that,
and
it's
a
public
health
issue
also.
So
thank
you.
A
For
that,
thank
you
chair,
thank
you,
councilor
Murphy,
yeah
I
mean
to
me.
This
is
the
number
one
quality
of
life
issue
in
the
city
and
I
will
say
that
I
as
the
district,
a
counselor
represent
a
bunch
of
neighborhoods
that
just
just
don't
have
containerization
and
that,
obviously,
you
know,
is
a
significant
factor
here
in
terms
of
the
overnight
nocturnal
activity
and
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
my
staff.
Jake
Warner
and
Anthony
Baez
are
here
and
Kennedy.
A
That
was,
you
know,
seen
as
a
real
concern,
because
6
a.m
is
a
harder
time
to
ask
people
to
wake
up
and
put
trash
out,
and
so
the
concern
was
that
more
people
would
put
it
out
overnight,
which
of
course,
they're
allowed
to
do
starting
at
five
I.
Think
that,
especially
with
the
kind
of
Boom
in
the
rap
population
that
we
saw
in
covid
in
our
residential
areas
and
I
know
a
lot
of
that
was
like
a
relocation
but
we've.
A
We
just
need
to
not
have
trash
out
overnight
period
and
especially
in
the
places
that
aren't
containerized
it's
just
it's
just
asking
it's
just
offering
the
rats
a
buffet
overnight
that
I
the
way
I
think
about
it
is
like
the
bags
the
little
ones
fly
bags
might
as
well
not
exist.
It's
like
pouring
out
food
on
the
sidewalk
for
12
hours.
A
You
were
saying
councilor
Murphy,
that
these
two
issues
go
hand
in
hand
and
I
found
myself
thinking
or
claw
and
Claw,
but
you
know
so
I
think
for
us.
We've
been
talking
about
the
draft
contract
for
a
while.
We
know
that
you
guys
are
in
this
moment
of
thinking
about
how
to
rewrite
it,
and
and
for
me,
focusing
on
the
typology
of
the
neighborhoods
and
thinking
about.
A
Can
we
have
a
tailored
approach
for
the
neighborhoods
that
specifically
have
bags
out
on
the
sidewalk
is
important
and
and
I
know
that
we've
talked
in
other
hearings
about
containerization
and
I.
Think
there
are
places
where
there's
real
opportunities
for
a
pilot
on
that
front
and
places
where
that
could
be
a
part
of
the
solution,
but
I
know
that
can't
be
a
solution
everywhere
in
the
district
so
really
interested
in
the
contract
question.
So
that's!
Those
are
just
some
comments
for
me.
A
I
want
to
go,
though,
and
let
the
administration
panel
speak
so
Dennis
I
really
appreciate
it.
If
you
would
just
speak
first,
this
recycling
Grant,
which
is
in
the
committee
and
I'm,
hoping
to
be
able
to
move
forward
next
tomorrow,
so
just
would
love
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
that,
and
then
we
can
zoom
out
from
everybody
on
the
trash
contracts.
In
the
past.
D
A
D
Dennis
roach
I'm,
the
superintendent
of
waste
reduction
for
the
city
of
Boston
I'm,
the
recycling
RDP
Grant
is
an
annual
Grant.
We
apply
for
through
Mass
dep.
We
get
it's
a
tiered
kind
of
system.
We
get
points
for
recycling
programs
we
offer
in
the
neighborhood,
there's
a
lot
of
diverse
diversity
and
inclusion
included
in
those
things
and
how
we
offer
them
in
terms
of
being
multilingual,
multi-neighborhood
all
those
types
of
things,
but
it's
a
tiered
approach
that
we
get
points
and
we
earn
credits
towards
receiving
dollars
to
fund
these
programs.
D
So
over
the
last
five
years
it's
been
a
typical
of
an
80
000
annual
Grant.
We
continue
to
earn
more
points
a
lot
this
year
due
to
curbside
composting
and
some
other
elements.
But
now
the
grant
is
up
to
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
were
present
in
front
of
the
council
to
accept
and
we
will
continue
to
spend
this
money
on
those
particular
type
programs.
So
it's
everything
from
hazardous
waste
days
to
curbside
composting
to
yard
waste
drops
to
curbside
yard
waste.
All
those
things
are
eligible
to
spend
this
type
of
funding
on.
D
Doing
here's
our
grant
process
that
it
has
a
specific
guideline
to
follow,
but
we
are
constantly
in
conversation
with
mass
dep.
We
meet
with
them,
probably
at
least
monthly,
going
through
all
these
programs.
What
we're
implementing
we're,
also
trying
to
anticipate
what
the
next
types
of
rules
and
regulations
they're
putting
in
for
for
for
either
food
composting
or,
as
you
guys
recently
seen
the
mattress
ban.
But
we
just
want
to
anticipate
those
things
before
those
particular
bands
come
in.
So
we're
constantly
meeting
with
them
and
they're
guiding
us
through
the
RDP
process.
E
I
can
go
first,
John
Ulrich
I'm,
the
assistant
Commissioner
of
Environmental
Services
we're
an
enforcement
division
of
Boston
inspectional
services.
Our
main
function
is
the
enforcement
of
the
sanitary
code
as
it
pertains
to
the
rodents
in
trash.
We
have
14
licensed
inspectors
that
cover
22
Awards
across
the
city
and
I.
Appreciate
that
the
council's
continued
work
and
partnership
on
the
issue.
D
D
We
don't
impact
commercial
until
enforcement,
which
which
John
will
kind
of
talk
about
his
role
in
that,
but
we
oversee
everything
from
regular
trash
contracts
to
recycling
contracts,
which
are
the
blue
bins
program
to
you
know
many
food
composting
programs,
including
curbside
project,
Oscar
recycling,
mattresses,
Now
new
to
the
new
this
year-
yard
waste
recycling
programs,
hazardous
waste
recycling
program,
ease
waste.
All
those
types
of
things
that
you
see
in
the
neighborhood
that
come
around
this
summer
paint
and
oil
drops.
So
we
manage
all
those
programs
for
our
residents.
F
Good
morning,
John
Blackboard,
director
of
Code
Enforcement
I'm
in
charge
of
the
Court
Enforcement
Officers
for
the
city
of
Boston
we're
a
24-hour
operation.
So
we
have
offices
out
on
the
streets
24
hours
the
residential
trash
can
be
put
out
after
5
PM,
unfortunately,
commercial
trash
after
6
PM,
so
it
does
sit
out
there
all
night
until
the
trash
picks
it
up
in
the
morning.
Just
because
you
can
put
it
up
that
early
doesn't
necessarily
mean
you
have
to.
F
Obviously
you
would
like
to
see
it
put
up
early
in
the
morning,
but
what
the
trash
does
start
at
6am.
It
needs
to
be
on
the
sidewalk
by
6.
A.M
commercial
stuff
is
a
little
more
heavy
because
it
is
I
mean
most
of
it
is
containerized
the
residential
stuff's,
not
it's
just
put
out
on
the
sidewalk
in
two
ply
bags
and
the
way
the
ordinance
is
written.
That
is
legal.
So
that's
what
we
need
to
look
at.
G
Thank
you,
Council
abok,
thank
you,
Council
block
for
your
leadership
on
this
important
issue
and
for
all
of
my
colleagues,
Council
Murphy
and
Council
of
Raiden
and
all
of
the
other
councilors
for
the
important
work,
but
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
city.
Administration
team.
That's
here
you
know
it's
out
in
the
city
and
in
the
neighborhoods
that
are
doing
a
tremendous
job.
G
Working
on
this
very
difficult,
very
difficult
issue.
Road
and
control
trash
disposal
are
issues
that
I've
brought
attention
to
over
and
over
again
over
the
last
six
years
that,
as
we
all
agreed
as
there
has
been
a
significant
increase
of
rodent
activities
in
the
past
couple
years,
particularly
we've
had
neighbors
reach
out
to
us
in
all
of
the
councilors
concerned
about
past
activities,
as
they
have
reached
out
to
the
mayor's
office
as
well
join
the
budget
process.
G
G
So
I
wanted
to
discuss
ways.
The
city
can
adequately
handle
these
issues,
including
increased
enforcement.
More
public
awareness
and
Outreach
about
proper
ways
of
disposal
disposing
trash
preventing
voting
activities.
I
know
that
some
of
my
constituents
have
also
been
talking
about
doing
a
pilot
program
on
using
those
hard
top
trash
cans
to
prevent
rodents
from
getting
into
the
trash
I
believe
we
actually
did
one
probably
right
before
the
pandemic
in
the
South
End,
not
sure
what
happened
to
that
pilot
program.
G
It's
important
that
we
discuss
measures
for
Effective
Pest
Control
in
keeping
our
streets
clean,
especially
when
we're
trying
to
keep
our
residents
in
a
residency
and
environment
environment
healthy
as
well.
We
need
to
talk
about
how
we
can
better
help
our
neighbors,
especially
those
that
live
in
the
downtown
neighborhoods,
to
contain
their
trash,
that
it
is
so
that
it
will
not
attract
rodents.
G
G
Major
public
health
issue
so
again
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
and
had
a
chance
to
work
with
all
of
you.
Over
the
past
several
years,
we've
had
we've
been
on
numerous
calls
in
the
fields
in
the
field
in
the
different
neighborhoods
I'm
meeting
with
the
residents
on
site.
I
also
have
talked
to
different
cities
across
the
country
in
in
here
in
Massachusetts,
as
well.
G
G
A
Thank
you,
president
Flynn,
a
couple
questions
for
me.
One
of
them
is,
you
know
it
has
seemed
to
me
up
like
observationally
on
Beacon
Hill,
that
the
actual
pickups
have
kind
of
shifted
later
in
later,
and
we're
often
seeing
the
trash
in
the
afternoon
like
get
picked
up
in
the
afternoon
and
so
I'm
I
guess.
I
was
wondering
Dennis.
D
Yeah
I
mean
so
we're
reconsidering
everything
as
part
of
our
new
contracts.
I
think
the
way
the
contracts
are
written
now,
especially
I,
think
when
they
were
one
there
was
a
lot
of
low
bid,
type
scenarios
and
less
focus
on
service.
So
in
low
bed
scenarios
you
get
a
trash
contractor,
that's
obviously
coming
at
the
least
dollars,
so
they're
they're
they're,
cutting
resources,
they're
cutting
trucks
at
certain
times,
based
upon
the
way,
the
contract's
written
and
what's
a
wild
one
to
the
current
contract.
D
So
they're
shifting
a
lot
a
lot
of
resources,
we're
obviously
asking
them
to
shift
a
lot
of
resources
to
get
more
efficient
of
what
they
give
us.
So
that's
why
you're
seeking
some
inconsistent
start
pickup
times
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
the
way
we
look
at
contracts
and
the
way
they're
written
is
a
big
step
forward
and
how
these
are
managed
and
big
step
in
how
we
service
homes
I'm,
not
going
to
say
we're
not
going
to
focus
on
price
because
we
obviously
are
we'll
be
fiscally
responsible.
H
D
D
The
the
reason
that
that
happens
is
is
because
there
are
multiple
pickups
daily
for
those
districts.
Those
are
the
only
two
I
mean
the
weekly
pickups.
Those
are
the
only
two
districts
downtown
in
Roxbury
that
gets
two
pickups
a
week
and
that's
why
they
were
grouped
together.
A
lot
of
the
groupings
is
based
upon
making
it
easier
for
trash
contractors
to
bid
on
them.
So
when
they
designate
a
set
of
trucks
for
the
groupings,
it's
consistent
between
neighborhoods,
they
usually
similar
sized
similar
resources.
D
In
this
particular
case,
it's
because
they
serve
their
residents
two
times
per
week.
We
will
definitely
be
looking
at
all
the
groupings
to
make
sure
they
make
sense.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
tweaks
we
can
make
with
these
groupings.
These
groupings
are
probably
15
to
20
years
old
now,
and
things
have
changed
in
the
city
and
everything
has
changed
so
it's
time
to
relook
to
see
if
we
can
get
more
efficient
into
better
regulate
the
times
in
which
we
pick
up.
Neighborhoods.
A
A
D
D
Is
yeah
we
would
be?
We
would
be
looking
to
have
trash
contracts
to
bid
by
October
November,
so
the
bid
will
probably
go
out
around
that
time
for
about
November
time
frame,
got
it
and
then
and
then
the
start
would
be.
The
completion
of
these
current
contracts
ends.
June
30th
2024,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
the
July
1st
2024
star
for
the
new
contracts.
A
D
It's
definitely
come
back
down
a
little
bit
and
I
also
think
some
of
the
little
programs
we've
managed
have
helped,
or
certainly
curbside,
food
compost
which
took
in
500
tons
in
the
first
six
months
and
is
still
growing
and
expanding
I.
Think
that's
going
to
have
an
impact
over
time,
those
when
they're
happening
in
other
other
jurisdictions.
It
takes
a
little
time
for
people
to
get
fully
involved
with
the
program
and
for
the
cities
and
towns
to
ramp
up,
but
once
it
gets
going,
it
takes
away
some
of
the
tonnage.
D
It
also
takes
some
of
them
very,
more
important,
more
important
materials
off
the
street
in
terms
of
rats
right
are
you
getting
you're
taking
food
out
of
the
actual
trash
and
the
containers
and
putting
them
into
seal
types
of
containers?
So
that's
a
big
program,
I
think,
and
it
could
have
more
impact
on
a
lot
of
things
we're
talking
about
here
today,
but
but
overall
it
did
Spike
Tony
when
people
went
home
during
covid
and
those
tonnages
have
started
to
slowly
kind
of
dissipate.
A
It
okay
and
then
last
question
from
me
before:
I
go
to
colleagues,
so
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
we
do.
President
Flynn
mentioned
illegal
dumping.
We
definitely
have
places
where
that
happens.
I
think
in
particular
places
where
there's
like
large
buildings,
where
there's
a
lot
of
trash,
that's
building
up
people
say
like
oh,
no
one
will
notice
my
like
additional
bag
or
two
and
then
it
can
turn
into
quite
a
lot.
A
And
then
we
have
people
who
are.
You
know
unlucky
enough
to
be
sort
of
the
ones
who
live
at
the
address
where
somebody
keeps
illegally
dumping
and
then
they
get
the
citations
and
I'm
just
sort
of
curious
and
I.
Don't
know
maybe
John.
If
this
is
a
question
for
you,
but
like
what
are
kind
of
investigatory
processes
or
like
if
somebody
comes
to
us
and
says:
hey
I
keep
getting
these
tickets,
but
it's
not
my
stuff
like
how
do
we
escalate
that?
How
do
we
think
about.
F
It
so
what
happens
if
the
officers
go
out
if
they
respond
to
a
3-1-1
complaint
for
an
illegal
dumping,
they'll
physically
put
on
a
pair
of
Rebel
gloves
and
go
through
the
trash
to
see
if
they
can
identify
where
the
trash
is
coming
from.
Back
Bay
is
a
little
tough
because
everybody
drops
the
trash
at
the
mouth
of
the
alleys,
so
the
offices
are
instructed
if
they
don't
find
any
evidence
at
the
month
of
the
hour,
so
they're
not
direct
a
violation
to
that
building,
because
it's
not
fair,
it's
not
coming
from
them.
F
It's
coming
from
the
person
that
lives
full
houses
down
halfway
in
the
alley,
walking
out
to
go
to
work
and
they
drop
the
trash
at
the
multi
alley.
So
if
they
find
evidence,
they
will
issue
the
illegal
dump
in
violation
and
then
what
we
do
is
we
put
in
a
CE
collection
case
for
a
high
rate
to
come
up
and
remove
it,
which
is
the
popular
Public
Public
Works
Highway
division,
they'll
set
a
truck
they'll,
send
somebody
by
and
they'll
physically
remove
the
bags
of
trash.
A
And
what
about
the
situation
where
we
ticket
we
keep
we
ticket
somebody's
house
because,
let's
say
it's
not
the
math
of
an
ally
right,
it's
like
just
in
front
of
somebody's
house,
we
take
it
them.
We
do
it
a
few
times
they
reach
out
to
us
and
say:
look
it's
not
me,
but
we
don't,
but
we
don't
have
evidence
from
the
bags
of
who
it
is.
How
do
we.
F
A
B
Thank
you,
Madam
chair,
I,
have
a
few
questions.
I
think
I'll,
just
continue
on
from
the
the
recycling
I
would
love
to
know
how
the
recycling
of
the
mattresses
is
going.
My
concern
is
Alston
Brighton,
there's
a
lot
of
turnovers,
especially
around
what
we
call
Alston
Christmas
I'm,
expecting
that
we're
going
to
have
thousands
of
mattresses
at
that
time
and
how's
it
going.
What
sort
of
numbers
are
we
getting
and
do
we
see?
B
D
Yeah
I
mean
so
the
Masters,
the
mattress
recycling
brand
definitely
brought
a
unique
problem
to
the
city.
It's
a
very
difficult
Pro
program
for
our
city
to
run.
Nobody
knows
how
to
run
one
specifically,
but
we
put
out
two
contracts
for
bid
and
we
have
two
contractors
that
have
essentially
split
the
city.
D
In
half
there
was
a
guesstimate
on
how
many
mattresses
we
were
getting
for
in
the
city,
and
that
was
about
35
000
annually
that
we
put
out,
which
is,
which
is
a
lot
estimated
to
about
150
per
day
city-wide
that
we
go
pick
up.
So
each
contractor
has
to
handle
75
mattresses
per
day.
They
get
they
get
scheduled
by
3-1-1.
They
get
get
put
on
a
list.
It's
definitely
been
a
work
in
progress,
It's,
something
that
it's
very
hard
to
manage.
D
It's
very
hard
to
anticipate
where
the
volumes
coming
from
where
the
mattress
is
coming
from.
It's
also
very
hard
to
manage,
because
in
a
city
where
we
don't
charge
our
residents
to
pick
up
mattresses,
we
have
a
ton
of
surrounding
jurisdictions
that
do
so
legal
dump,
mattresses
come
into
the
city,
probably
all
the
time
and
we're
trying
to
work
on
them
too.
D
So
it's
a
struggle.
Half
the
city
is
on
basically
a
two-week
wait
window
in
half
the
cities
on
a
two-day
window.
We've
done
something.
This
week,
we've
made
a
change
in
districts
between
the
contractors,
have
been
very
willing
to
work
with
us
and
we're
changing
that
all
around.
So
we
can
kind
of
equally
distribute
them
a
little
bit
better.
So
we
hopefully
knock
that
weight
down
to
you
know
in
in
reality
would
love
our
way
to
be
no
longer
than
48
hours,
but
it's
been
a
working
problem.
Progress
we're
trying
to
get
there.
F
B
D
We
do
well
we're
going
to
have
a
multi-tiered
plan.
We
work
with
our
Highway
division,
but
in
terms
of
our
contractors
we
built
that
into
our
contract
search
periods.
So,
instead
of
having
to
pick
up
75
per
day,
each
contractor
for
the
month
of
May
into
the
first
two
weeks
of
June
have
to
pick
up
150
a
day,
so
they'll
we'll
be
taking
on
more
capacity
of
the
schedule
that
was
built
into
our
anticipation.
D
Those
contracts
with
that
said,
we
still
don't
know
what
the
volume
is,
because
a
lot,
often
people
you
know
they
don't
want
to
call
on.
You-
know
August
30th,
to
get
a
mattress
scheduled
on
May
7th.
Everybody
wants
to
get
rid
of
that
mattress,
probably
on
May
31st
right
before
I
move
out
there.
So
we
do
anticipate
some
issues
and
we're
going
to
have
all
of
our
Highway
team
and
and
everybody
ready
to
kind
of
pitch
in
and
thing.
But
it's
it's
a
diff
difficult
thing
to
manage
for
sure,
but.
D
Yeah,
so
we're
we're
actually
we're
sending
out.
It
should
be
going
out
any
day,
but
we're
sending
out
a
different
mailer
to
everybody
Citywide.
We
were
conventionally
going
to
Target
the
high
volume
areas
for
for
move
outs
in
May,
but
we're
going
to
do
it.
Citywide
that's
going
to
have
information
for
landlords
for
residents
calling
3-1.
It's
gonna
have
all
that
information
that
should
be
going
out
in
the
next
week
or
so.
B
D
D
B
I'm
gonna
do
it
for
time
there
Madam
chair
just
a
couple
more
minutes,
a
couple
more
minutes.
Okay,
the
other
thing
we
see
in
a
lot
of
new
development
in
Austin
Brighton
and
one
thing
that
we've
been
asking
developers
to
do
is
to
actually
build
the
building
so
that
they
can
have
their
trash
containers
in
in
in
the
within
the
envelope
like
underneath.
Whatever.
D
Act
together,
we've
had
some
initial
discussions
with
BPD.
They
often
don't
consult
on
these
types
of
issues,
but
we've
definitely
pushed
that
forward
to
them
that
it's
it's
a
big
concern.
Big
buildings
are
big
concern:
city-wide
they're,
they're,
coming
up
everywhere.
The
volume
of
trash
is
incredible.
It's
adding
to
our
trash
volume
as
they
as
they
pop
up
a
lot
of
the
big
higher
end.
B
B
D
So
we
we
will
service
any
building
one
day
a
week.
These
big
buildings,
some
of
them
size,
need
two
to
three
day.
Pickups,
so
often
they'll
just
go
private
and
they'll
continue
to
go
private,
but
if
they,
what
they
ask
us
for
one
day
of
service
as
long
as
it's
accessible
to
the
curve,
we'll
we'll
we'll
service
it
so,
but
that
doesn't
mean
all
of
our
programs
qualify
for
big
buildings.
D
We've
had
certain
programs
like
food
composting,
which
we
don't
serve
with
big
buildings.
We
have
the
mattress
programs,
which
we
don't
serve
big
buildings
on
it's
consistent
with
the
way
things
are
done
around
the
countries
and
other
cities.
A
lot
of
them
don't
do
big
buildings
at
all
and
we're
so
we're
kind
of
in
the
kind
of
in
between
we
service
on
trash
and
recycling
side,
but
some
of
the
smaller
programs
we
don't
serve
as
big
buildings.
A
D
So
the
pilot
program
began
last
August.
We
contracted
a
company
to
pick
up
curbside
food
composting.
At
the
time
we
rolled
out
in
two
increments
of
five
thousand,
but
ten
thousand
total
residents
inside
a
pilot
program.
It
was
enrolled
very
quickly.
It
started
to
develop
a
wait
list.
There
have
been
people
on
the
waitlist
since
last
September
because
it
enrolled
so
fast.
D
The
the
program
has
been
very
successful.
Today.
It
took
in
the
first
six
months,
took
500
tons
of
food
waste
out
of
our
trash
streaming
into
into
the
composting
program.
I
think,
that's
you
know
very
small,
and
the
impact
they
can
have
over
time
is
people.
You
know
we
get
more
people
on
board
in
the
program.
We
get
more
people
to
use
to
what
they
can
food
compost
and
things
like
that.
D
The
intention
for
the
city
was
to
expand
that
by
10
000
every
year
for
the
first
three
years
of
the
program
for
the
pilot
program,
so
we're
anticipating
on
July
1st
we're
going
to
be
adding
another
10
000
residents
to
equal
20
000
residents.
Currently,
we
have
somewhere
about
six
to
seven
thousand
on
on
the
wait
list.
D
G
D
G
Okay,
not
that
that's
helpful
thanks.
Thank
you,
as
you
know,
I
I
represent
Chinatown
and
we
have
unique
challenges
in
that
neighborhood
on
on
trash
and
legal
dumping
as
well,
and
you
know
that
there
has
to
be
a
in
a
lot
of
the
neighborhood
organizations
are
doing
great
work
on
this,
but
I
think
we
we
have
to
go
back
to
the
basics
and
really
educate
residents
and
business
owners.
G
Many
restaurants,
as
you
know,
educating
them
really
educating
everybody
across
the
city
about
about
the
proper
way
to
take
out
a
barrel,
take
out
recycling
what
to
do.
What
not
to
do
I,
don't
think
we
can
assume
that
people
know
how
to
take
out
a
barrel
what
to
put
in
a
barrel
what
to
put
in
trash
bag.
G
So
my
question
is
the
public
awareness
campaign
has
to
be
a
critical
part
of
that
as
well?
Can
you
talk
about
how
we're
reaching
more
people,
many
of
them
in
my
community?
Don't
don't
speak
English,
they
speak
well,
they
speak
Anthony's
in
Mandarin,
but
they
or
some
or
Spanish.
But
what
are
we
doing
as
it
relates
to
educating
residents
across
the
city.
D
I'd
say
over
the
last
year
to
year
and
a
half
would
really
picked
up
our
public
awareness
campaigns.
We
hired
a
zero
waste
program
manager
create
newly
created
position
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
that
within
that
position,
three
zero
waste
coordinators
report
to
that
position
and
they
focused
on
public
awareness
campaigns.
They
they're
currently
putting
out
the
The
Mattress
materials
they're,
putting
out
Recycling
and
trash
guides
in
multi-languages
that
they
all
call
multi-language
they're,
getting
both
mailed
out
and
posted
to
our
website.
D
We're
rebuilding
our
website
and
our
communication
on
that
way,
and
a
lot
of
it
is
about
educating
people
on
how
to
do
things
properly
and
how
to
set
things
out.
So
we
can
kind
of
change
behaviors
over
time,
so
I'd
say
the
last
year
has
been
the
most
impactful
Public
Works
has
had
in
a
long
time
for
getting
messaging
out.
I
think
we
have
a
long
way
to
go.
I
think
we
can
certainly
use
more
funding.
D
In
that
sense,
every
time
we
send
out
a
mail
or
city-wide,
it
tends
to
cost
us
50
to
70
thousand
dollars,
so
cost
be
pretty
significant,
but
we
we
definitely
have
a
plan.
We
definitely
have
a
team
working
on
it
and
we're
definitely
looking
for
more
feedback
of
what
people
kind
of
want
to
hear
out
there
in
terms
of
messaging
but
we're
building
it
up
both
in
terms
of
mailers,
multilingual
and
online
presence.
D
G
D
G
G
G
G
D
You
think
so
I
mean
I
I
can
I
can
definitely
speak
to
it.
A
little
bit
we,
my
division,
is
purely
focused
on
residential
trash.
The
environment
department
works
on
the
corporate
side
at
the
commercial
side
of
it.
So
there's
a
there's
a
little
bit.
We
do
work
together
into
things,
but
tidying
up
some
of
these
trash
ordinances
on
the
way
trash
has
put
out
the
times.
Trash
had
put
out
how
it's
put
out.
D
There's
a
lot
of
vague
language
out
there.
So
it's
hard
for
us
to
really
enforce
what
needs
to
be
enforced
out
there
and
how
it's
kind
of
set
out
and
how
it's
labeled
and
what's
the
difference
between
commercial
and
residential
and
how
they're,
co-mingling
and
things
like
that
so
I'm.
Definitely
looking
at
it
from
a
council
perspective
on
how
the
ordinances
are
written
and
possibly
being
updated,
would
be
a
big
benefit.
Not
to
us.
D
G
Could
I
could
I
put
you
as
the
CEO
of
this
voicemail
sure
can
okay,
but
Council
block
is
knows
that
knows
the
budget.
Well,
she
said
you're
not
able
to
get
a
a
bump
in
your
pay,
though.
Okay,
no
problem,
okay,
John
good
to
see
you
too
John
good
to
see
you
I,
remember.
Reading
a
New,
York
Times
article,
maybe
two
months
ago
this
front
page
of
the
New
York
Times
about
what
what
the
city
of
New
York
is
doing
on
Pest,
Control
I,
don't
know
if
I
don't
know.
G
If
you
saw
that
article,
it's
pretty
pretty
interesting
and
I
know
we
talk
often
about
about
this
subject,
but
what
what
are
some
of
the
based
on
your
research?
What
what
have
you
seen
across
the
country,
whether
it's
reading
or
visiting
locations,
what
other
cities
are
doing
that
might
be
helpful
to
Boston?
And
you
know,
maybe
maybe
we
can
use
something
as
as
a
pilot
program.
E
I'm
part
of
an
APM
group
put
on
by
Cornell
where
many
cities
Seattle
New
York
Philadelphia
DC,
where
we
meet,
we
haven't
met
in
a
little
while
the
last
one
I
think
was
during
covet,
where
we
compare
notes
and-
and
a
lot
of
us
are
doing
basically
the
same
thing-
we
have
slightly
different
challenges.
New
York
is
obviously
much
bigger.
E
E
Also,
the
bubble
wraps
was
a
good
addition
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
started
to
use
that
which
is
carbon
monoxide
wrote
an
activity
in
the
city
is
driven
by
food,
so
I
I
think
that
the
the
focus
on
how
we
manage
trash
is
really
Pest
Control.
Our
approach
to
Pest
Control
is
integrated,
Pest,
Management
and
and
the
actual
pest
control
of
trapping
and
using
pesticides
or
using
stuff
like
dry
ice
is
really
the
end
part.
E
E
That
is
the
the
challenge.
So
why
we're
on
this
panel
together
and
focusing
on
trash
and
trash
containment
and
managing
food?
What
kind
of
barrels
we
have
in
parks
and
and
how
we
educate
folks
on
no
one
wants
to
live
with
rats,
and
so
how
do
we
educate
folks
on
on
the
correct
way
to
store
their
trash
and
3-1-1
has
been
incredible
for
us?
E
It
now
goes
directly
to
the
handheld
of
of
our
inspector,
but
if
somebody
doesn't
call
and
report
it,
we
don't
know
this
rodent
activity,
and
sometimes
they
don't
call
until
it's
until
it's
Advance.
The
problem
is
Advanced,
so
our
education,
education,
material,
is
in
six
languages.
We
work
with
neighborhood
groups
to
send
out
digital
copies.
We
fly
enabled
to
where
we
see
increased
inactivity
and
then
we'll
continue.
G
A
You
president,
Flynn
and
I,
want
to
know:
we've
also
been
joined
by
councilor
Lucy
louisian.
Another
co-sponsor
here
I
am
going
to
go
next
to
counselor
Murphy.
Although
not
a
co-sponsor.
She
was
the
first
person
here,
including
ahead
of
me,
a
while
back
so
councilor
Murphy
and
then
councilor
Coletta
and
then
counselor
Louis,
Jen.
C
C
We
have
I
held
the
summer
youth
jobs
hearing
a
couple
weeks
ago,
when
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
there
is:
how
do
we
get
kids
to
know
that
these
jobs
are
there
they're,
seven
thousand
jobs?
They
often
go
half
unfilled
and
we
were
talking
about
in
the
past.
They've
put
posters
like
on
buses,
or
you
know,
Billboards
and
the
cost.
C
You
said
and
I
think
it's
important
to
also
mail
it,
even
though
it's
a
large
cost
in
different
languages,
but
have
we
thought
about
putting
some
like
posters
or
kind
of
doing
an
ad
campaign?
That
way
also,
maybe
just
an
idea
of
not
just
the
mailers
but
different
ways
to
really
advertise
that
the
city
is
kind
of.
C
D
We
did
some
of
that.
It's
just
been
building
up
our
budget
and
getting
more
resources
and
allowing
us
to
and
build
out
our
complete
team
we're
putting
on
our
third
zero
waste
coordinator
this
month.
So
it's
been
a
build
up
of
building
out
these
teams
and
getting
these
resources
in
play,
which
the
city
council
is
approved
for
the
budget
process
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
and
we're
very
grateful
for
it
too.
So
we're
definitely
working
towards
many
Avenues
of
more
mass
education
for
recycling
and
trash
programs.
C
C
Awesome,
you
mentioned
the
neighborhoods
that
are
containerized
and
non-containerized
I'm,
assuming
it's,
because
if
they
don't
have
driveways
or
backyards
to
store
barrels,
but
then
you
mentioned
that
the
landlords
on
or
homeowners
I
assume
also
aren't
required
to
have
barrels.
So
how
do
we
separate?
Could
you
just
go
down
which
neighborhoods
are
those
and
how.
C
D
C
So
you're,
just
basing
it
like
I,
said
on,
if
you
have
a
yard
or
a
driveway
to
store
it,
yeah,
okay
and
the
last
question
is
related
to
the
budget
or
really
a
comment.
If
you
can
share
kind
of
a
few
specifics
on
how
we
can
support
you
through
the
budget
you've
mentioned,
you
know
money
for
the
mailers
or
adding
more
staff
or
how?
What
specifics
do
you
think,
and
you
also
mentioned
how
can
we
be
helpful
in
making
sure
this
contract?
C
Your
writing
is
strong,
because
you
said
the
stronger
you
can
write
the
contract.
We
can
close
some
of
these
loopholes
that
we
see
with
ordinances
and
being
able
to
enforce
kind
of
this
common
sense
that
a
lot
of
us
feel
like
like.
Why
can't
we
do
this?
So
if
you
could
maybe
share
out
a
few
ideas
any
of
you
have
to
during
the
budget
season,
how
we
can
be
very
specifically
helpful
and
not
just
say:
oh,
let's
give
them
more
money
because
we
don't
like
wraths.
You
know
yeah.
D
I
mean
definitely
through
educational
initiatives
to
expand
marketing
type
dollars
that
we
can
increase
our
like
Outreach
and
things
like
that
to
to
all
residents
every
time
and
more
frequently,
when
every,
when
every
all
these
programs
types
of
exist,
we
can
add.
Last
year
we
had
added
a
few
of
these
green
jobs,
which
became
zero,
coordinates
Airways
coordinators,
which
have
been
extremely
helpful.
In
continuing
this,
we
can
push
to
further
Advance
the
food
composting
pilot
we're
going
to
20
000
residents
next
year.
D
You
know,
as
we
kind
of
further
advance,
that
we
get
more
people
signed
up
and
get
those
initiatives
rolling.
That
certainly
is
helpful
and,
as
you
mentioned,
I'm
really
strongly
looking
at
we're
looking
at
our
trash
contracts,
which
will
will
be
looking-
probably
in
unison,
especially
if
we
build
out
this.
This
task
force
with
the
city
council,
but
but
you
know
also
the
ordinances
that
exist
with
it.
D
Council
fin
referenced
some
of
the
programs
that
have
been
going
in
New
York
and
the
last
thing,
and
one
of
the
things
they
did
is
they
don't
allow
trash
to
be
curbside
the
night
before.
If
it's
not
containerized,
it
can
go
out
on
the
curb
the
night
before,
but
it
has
to
be
containerized.
So
that's
that's
an
ordinance.
They.
They
wrote.
That's
a
huge
step
in
the
right
direction
in
terms
of
helping
rodent
control,
so
those
types
of
things
and
those
types
of
initiatives
make
all
the
difference
in
the
world.
E
If
I
could
just
say
some
the
state
sanitary
code,
if
you
do
store
trash
you're
required
to
provide
enough
storage
for
that
trash,
so
in
a
neighborhood
where
somebody
has
a
driveway
or
it's
a
three
family,
you
would
have
to
provide
enough
barrels
for
that
trash
to
be
stored
outside
unless
you're
keeping
it
in
your
home.
So
it
has
to
have
a
tight,
fitting
lid,
waterproof
and
roll.
E
I
Good
morning,
everybody
I
apologize
for
being
late.
I
was
listening
in
though
so.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions,
so
I'm
not
going
to
dive
into
an
opening
statement
or
anything
like
that.
What
I
will
just
say
is
that
my
neighborhoods
East
Boston
Charlestown
in
the
North
End
in
part
of
the
downtown
area,
high
density.
We
all
know
this-
it's
a
perennial
issue.
I
do
have
one
message,
though,
from
a
North,
End
constituent
who
I
was
talking
to.
I
She
wanted
me
to
just
say
that
they
have
rats
as
big
as
moose
in
the
North
End.
So
I
wanted
to
put
that
here
on
the
floor.
I
promised
her
I
would
so.
This
is
an
issue,
and
this
is
a
priority
that
my
constituents
bring
to
me
every
single
day.
I
would
say
we
get
the
most
calls
about
trash.
East
Boston
in
particular,
is
riddled
with
debris
and
trash,
and
we
know
that
pests
and
trash
they
it's
a
symbiotic
right
relationship.
I
I
So
I
would
love
to
see
a
shift
in
that
time
window
for
the
North
End
in
downtown,
in
particular,
but
for
the
trash
contracts
and
I
came
in
late
to
this
conversation.
So
apologies
if
this
was
already
mentioned
in
in
2020
DPW
hired
a
position
to
scrutinize
the
contracts
with
an
eye
of
how
they
can
be
modified
or
even
broken
up
into
multiple
contracts.
To
allow
for
more
customized
approaches.
I
D
D
We
are
trying
to
get
through
the
hiring
process
and
bringing
somebody
on
board.
That's
going
to
basically
re-look
at
these
contracts
and
put
a
little
different
lens
on
it,
a
lens
of
less
about
lowest
bidder,
winning
these
contracts
and
kind
of
skating
through
for
five
years
and
cutting
resources
and
figuring
out
ways
to
do
this
cheaply
and
more
of
along
the
lines
of
being
yes
fiscally
responsible,
but
getting
a
service
delivery
and
a
quality
service
delivery
that
we
expect,
and
that
could
be
anything
from
shrinking.
D
You
know
pickup
times
trash
on
the
curbs
making
sure
they're
hitting
the
neighborhoods
and
certain
Windows
re-districting
certain
neighborhoods,
because
often
for
efficiency
trash
contractors
will
will
roll
into
one
neighborhood
finish
trash
and
then
they'll
be
in
the
second
neighborhood
in
the
afternoon
and
finish
trash.
So
that's
just
the
way
they
work
and
just
to
re-look
it.
The
way
those
things
are
done
is
to
make
sure
Boston
is
getting
its
best
service.
D
D
D
There's
a
there's
a
different
issue
in
in
terms
of
that,
because
the
way
that
they're
written
now
is
very
few
contractors
have
wanted
to
come
in
and
work
inside
Boston
for
many
reasons:
tight
streets,
traffic,
navigating
streets,
a
lot,
a
lot
of
those
types
of
reasons
when
they
can
go
work
in
Suburban
districts
and
just
kind
of
roll
through
the
streets,
a
lot
easier.
So
it's
been
tough,
attracting
quality
trash
contracts
to
the
city
are.
D
We'll
begin
to
look
at
that
through
this
trash
fellow
contract
this
this
summer,
so
we've
reached
out
to
some
of
our
Economic
Development
people
and
alerted
to
the
fact
that
new
contracts
are
coming
in
things
like
and
things
like
that.
So
but
it's
it's!
It's
not
an
area.
That's
flourishing
with
these
types
of
companies,
okay,.
I
And
I
would
just
encourage
to
put
in
best
practices
as
well
when
it
comes
to,
and
they
have
a
tough
job
and
I
I
know
this.
But
what
I
get
is
that
they
don't
put
the
trash
barrel.
They
keep
them
in
the
middle
of
the
street
I've
seen
it
happen
in
East
Boston
on
Saratoga
Street,
there's
trash
flown
everywhere
and
I
get
it.
You
have
to
do
this
in
a
timely
manner,
but
just
best
practices,
if
it's
not
already
in
there
I,
would
encourage
that.
I
D
So
the
whole
Keys
work
completely
independently
from
our
units,
so
they
run
out
of
the
highway
Division
and
they
focus
on
cleaning
the
streets.
They
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
the
the
trash
company
other
than
they'll,
be
in
those
streets
later
on,
usually
probably
focused
around
some
areas
where
trash
kind
of
came
through
so
in
that
particular
neighborhood,
but
there
they
work.
That's
the
highway
Division
and
it'll
work
within
with
the
waste
reduction
division.
Okay,.
I
I
I
see
this
as
an
opportunity,
we
should
get
the
Hokies
linked
up
with
your
Division
and
or
in
the
contract.
Put
that
this
company
has
to
pay
for
Hokies
to
follow
the
trucks
around.
So
I
see
that
as
an
opportunity
that
maybe
we
can
discuss
during
the
the
budget
cycle.
Where
can
I
find
a
copy
of
District
one's
trash
contract?
We.
I
Would
love
to
have
a
copy
of
that
just
to
have
the
most
up-to-date
information
the
other
part
of
this?
So
we
talked
about
illegal,
illegal
dumping?
That's
something
that
occurs
in
my
district,
quite
a
bit.
How
many
cases
have
you
seen
for
illegal
dumping?
How
long
does
it
take
to
rectify
you've
talked
about
an
investigation
and
how
many
staff
members
are
assigned
to
the
investigations
for
illegal
dumping.
F
So
I'd
have
to
pull
the
numbers
on
how
many
cases
we
have
for
illegal
dumpings.
I
can
get
that
to
you.
We
got
14
offices
up
the
street
14.,
usually,
usually
all
three
One
cases
are
answered
within
24
hours.
So
if
somebody
calls
in
the
301
case
this
morning
for
legal
dumping,
one
of
my
officers
is
there
within
a
couple
of
hours,
okay
and
then
it'll
stop
the
investigation,
see
if
they
can
find
him.
That's
where
the
trash
is
coming
from
the
initially
the
violation.
I
That's
great:
this
is
the
first
time
that
I'm
hearing
of
this
so
awesome,
I,
love
that
and
I
can
tell
my
favorite
friend
on
Chelsea
Street.
That
will
get
an
officer
out
there
to
investigate,
because
somebody
drives
up
to
in
front
of
our
home
puts
all
of
their
trash
in
front
of
her
house
and
she
gets
the
citation
and
it's
just
not
fair.
So
now.
D
F
I
In
terms
of
rat
abatement
and
pesttubating,
just
in
in
general,
have
you
seen
an
uptick
in
a
relationship
between
construction
and
development?
That's
happening
in
Rat
activity.
I
get
a
lot
of
calls
in
my
district,
just
based
on
the
sheer
volume
of
development
projects
that
are
happening
and
they're
worried
that
the
rats
are
coming
from
digging
up
the
the
existing
home.
That's
there
or
wherever
the
proposal
is
or
the
project
is.
Rather
so
have
you
seen
a
relationship
between
construction
and
rat
activity
in
various
neighborhoods.
E
So
we
we
see
an
increase
in
complaints
around
construction,
not
necessarily
the
activity.
I.
Think
that
folks
believe
that
that
construction
causes
Road
and
activity.
If
there's
Road
and
activity
on
the
on
the
property
and
there's
excavation,
it
could
disturb
what's
already
there,
but
we
don't
see
it
increasing
the
activity.
J
K
Thank
you,
I.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues.
I
am
very
glad
to
be
here
with
what
I
think
is
really
an
All-Star
team
of
folks
working
in
this
city
to
get
at
these
issues
that
are
sometimes
feel
Larger
than
Life.
So
I
just
want
to
think
you
know.
I've
we've
been
out
on
calls
with
yeah
with
director
Blackmore
superintendent
roach
a
commissioner.
We
just
I'm.
K
So
I'm
glad
to
be
a
co-sponsor
here
on
the
order
for
hearing
off
for
trash
contracts
and
proced
teachers
in
the
city
of
Boston,
I'm,
already
heartened
by
some
of
what
I've
heard
here,
and
we
know
that
you
know
I
I
always
say
this.
On
my
birthday
last
year,
I
was
here
in
City,
Hall
talking
about
rats
in
our
city
on
a
panel
there's
no
other
way.
K
I'd
rather
spend
my
birthday
because
when
constituents
it's
true
it's
true,
because
when
constituents
call
us
and
complain
about
these
issues,
if
we're
not
getting
these
issues
right,
how
can
they
trust
us
with
the
larger
issues
that
we
want
to
tackle?
And
so
I
encourage
to
hear
that
it
sounds
like
if
I'm
correct,
that
we
are
getting
more
dry
ice
dry
ice
as
being
the
as
an
important
part
of
the
solution
that,
with
the
pandemic
sort
of
weaning
out
a
lot
of
the
rap
Burrows
that
were
created
as
a
result
of
need.
J
E
So
the
food
source
was
disrupted,
and
so
we
we
saw
it
move
around,
and
so
some
of
that
activity
might
might
stay
where,
where
it
moved,
rodents
usually
won't
travel
more
than
300
feet
from
from
their
Borough.
It
it's
difficult
to
calculate
what
the
rodent
population
is,
there's
not
a
really
good
way.
E
We
we
use
measurements
like
three
one
one
complaints,
but
those
are
just
what
people
are
complaining
and
sometimes
there's
multiple
complaints
on
one
issue
so
difficult
to
gauge
the
population,
whether
it's
increased
or
decreased,
but
I
think
the
dry
ice
has
been
incredibly
successful.
The
last
couple
months
we've
been
able
to
access
two
to
three
hundred
pounds
per
week,
mainly
in
the
neighborhood
parks,
Boston
Commons,
Public
Gardens
and
we've
increased
our
soil
baiting,
so
areas
where
we
know
that
activity
increases
or
more
complaints
come
in
during
the
springtime.
E
E
Through,
like
3-1-1
calls
I
the
analytics
team,
we
have
an
analytics
team
at
ISD
and
they
are
working
on
looking
at
the
data,
we're
also
tracking
the
baiting
work
that
we
do
through
a
GIS
mapping
program,
and
so
the
hope
is
that
we
can
start
to
look
at
that
data
from
a
bird's
eye
and
and
it
can
guide
some
of
our
operation
in
the
future.
Thank.
K
You
a
question
regarding
I
believe
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
encouraged
by
I've
been
working
with
my
colleague
and
co-sponsor
councilor
Braden
on
Scott
flower
ordinance
to
hold
our
landlords
more
accountable
of
the
work
that
we've
done
has
been
out
in
Mattapan
and
High
Park
about
dumpsters
and
how
the
dumpsters
have
not
been
properly
maintained.
But
just
yesterday,
after
the
late
mile,
Kings
wake
was
walking
around
to
the
south
end
and
I
was
just
looking
at
how?
Because
of
the
lack
of
containerization,
there
was
just.
K
There
was
just
really
trash
droon
everywhere
in
the
street
and
I
know.
This
is
something
that
our
downtown
neighborhoods
deal
with
all
the
time,
so
I
I
I'd
love
to
take
a
look
at
that
we're
seeing
what
we
can
do
to
model
after
what
New
York
has
done
to
prove.
You
know
to
possibly
ban
putting
out
trash
if
it's
not
containerized
the
night
before
how?
How
big
of
an
impact
do
you
think
that
that
will
have
on
the
the
rat
issue
that
we're
seeing.
E
Any
time
that
we
can
reduce
the
access
to
food
for
rodents,
I,
like
I,
said
before
the
integrated,
Pest
Management
approach,
is
the
best
approach
and
putting
controls
in
that
reduce
the
things
that
create
the
supportive
environment.
Food
is
the
main
driver
of
this.
So
if
we
find
ways
to
reduce
trash
containerize
it,
that
is
where
we'll
be
most
successful
in
reducing
Road
and
population.
K
Another
question
I
think
we've
talked
to
you
about
this
before,
but
about
requiring
landlords
that
have
above
a
certain
number
of
units
to
do
an
additional
pickup
a
week
as
a
way
to
deal
with
the
dumpster
overflows
or
the
strewn,
trash
or
or
issues
of
that
nature.
Just
would
like
to
get
your
thoughts
on
on
that
additional
requirement.
K
E
They're
required
to
be
able
to
store
trash
with
tight,
fitting
Lids.
If
they
don't
have
a
place
to
store
extra
barrels
or
an
additional
dumpster,
then
they're
required
to
to
get
an
additional
pickup.
So,
for
example,
the
tennis
road
we've
made
them
add
dumpsters
and
get
additional
pickups.
So
they
get
one
I
think
one
city
pickup,
and
so
the
requirement
is,
is
that
they
have
enough
storage
and
if
they
don't
have
enough
storage,
they
have
to
get
an
additional
picture.
But.
L
E
Would
respond
to
the
complaint,
write
the
violation
if
we
went
back
multiple
times
and
it's
consistently
overflowing
and
they
don't
have
trash
enough
storage
for
trash?
They
don't
have
any
place
to
add
totes
or
additional
barrels
or
dumpsters.
Then
we
would
require
it
in
our
violation
for
them
to
get
an
additional
pickup.
K
E
K
A
bit
worried
about
the
disaffected
constituent
who
doesn't
have
for
you
know,
after
maybe
decades
or
years
of
neglect,
let
them
think
about
our
black
and
brown
neighborhoods,
where
three-on-one
complaints
aren't
being
made
as
frequently
about
issues
like
dumpster
overflow.
So
those
are
where
I'm
worried
about
other
ways
and
and
opportunities
like
you
know
my
office,
we
can
do
as
much
as
we
can
we're
in
office
of
four
people
and
myself
was
worried
about
how
what
we
can
be
doing
more
proactively
and
not
just
relying
on
and
and
I.
K
D
Can
I
just
add
so
when
I
spoke
earlier
to
expanding
our
waste
reduction
unit?
I
spoke
to
that
we
hiring
three
zero
waste
coordinators,
two
of
which
are
already
hired,
one
which
we'll
be
bringing
on
this
month
that
third
one
is
focused
on
big
building
policy
in
big
building
education,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
these
things.
D
You're
talking
to
now
are
things
that
we're
going
to
be
exploring
and
researching,
and
probably
coming
back
to
the
console
with
some
suggested
ways
to
make
improvements
to
big
buildings
through
whether
it
be
ordinances
or
you
know
some
rules
and
regulations.
But
one
of
the
first
things
is
is
to
create
a
big
building
web
page.
That
has
a
lot
of
these
things
spelled
up
really
easily
for
big
buildings,
for
property
managers
for
landlords
and
then
see
where
a
little
bit
deficient.
D
In
things
that
ways
we
can
improve
services
to
big
buildings-
and
you
know,
look
at
some
big
best
practices
nationally
to
see
if
there's
jurisdictions
that
say
like
if
you
have
over
so
many
units,
you
need
two
pickups
a
week
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
definitely
going
to
get
focused
on
a
position
in
my
office
over
the
next
two
months.
Thank.
K
You
and
I
know
councilor,
Bach
and
I
have
talked
and
I
believe
she
filed
a
hearing
order
to
talk
about
looking
at
the
article
80
process
to
to
potentially
new
developments.
What
we
acquire
you
know
back
in
the
days
the
indoor
shoots
do
we
revert
to
something
of
that
nature?
It
comes
back.
Do
I
have
time
for
two
more
questions.
D
So
we
will
do
that
over
the
next,
the
next
couple
of
months
in
the
trash
below
procedure,
where
we're
looking
at
smaller
portions
of
contracts,
whether
that
be
potentially
breaking
off
yard
waste
yard
waste
is
now
part
of
the
major
trash
contract
they
kind
of.
Do
it
on
the
side
is,
could
that
be
its
own
separate
contract
that
we
can
attract
an
mwbe
type
business
or
a
smaller
contractor
to
come
in
and
take
that
on
and
build
their
their
their
base
up
where
they
can
eventually
compete
with
these
contractors
over
time?
There's?
D
Certainly
smaller
contracts,
like
you
know,
City
agencies
like
BPS
police
and
fire
Trash,
Services
BHA,
that
we
will
look
at
to
see
if
they're
kind
of
we
can
break
those
aside
and
create
more
competition
for
smaller
type
contractors
to
win
them,
and
eventually
they
grow
their
business
where
they
could
be
competitors
of
of
some
of
these
larger
companies
which
seem
to
be
going
away
in
this
around
the
city
of
Boston.
So
awesome.
K
I
think
that'd
be
especially
great.
You
know,
I
am
I,
participate
in
the
composting
program
right
now
and
I
think
it's
excellent
and
this
idea
of
sort
of
like
Browning
the
green
industry,
of
making
sure
that
we're
making
it
accessible
to
black
and
brown
folks
and
industries,
and
my
last
question
may
be
more
of
a
comment
and
I
know
that
when
we're
thinking
about
these
issues
we
always
are
thinking
about
what
government
can
do
and
I
think
we
should
really
be
doing
that.
K
But
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
a
constituent
who
is
in
the
house
who
also
talks
about
what
we
can
do.
Constituents
also
want
to
help
us
solve
this
problem
either.
I
know
that
we
do
love
your
block,
but
if
there
are
other
opportunities
for
us
to
support
beautification
programs
and
projects
like
how
do
we
look
at
and
and
how
do
you
see
constituents
as
as
being
part
of
the
solution
of
of
ensuring
that
our
neighborhoods
are
beautiful
and
dignified
and
clean?
K
And
how
can
we
further
support
and
sort
of
neighborhood
beautification
projects
and
that's
a
particular
shout
out
to
Bob
Binney,
who
brought
this
up
out
of
cocoa
with
the
council?
We
had
in
Beacon
Hill,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
floor
and
for
us
to
think
about
how
we
integrate
our
constituents
into
being
problem.
Solvers
in
this
area,
better.
D
Yeah
I
mean
in
in
terms
of
overall
I,
mean
just
getting
constituents
to
be
bigger
participants
in
some
of
the
programs
we're
running
and
through
some
through
no
fault
of
their
owners,
we're
only
rolling
out
food
compost,
programs
in
small
batches,
but
just
being
used
as
this
type
material.
We
got
to
get
more
of
this
compost
that
we
create
into
the
hands
of
certain
constituents
to
use
in
their
home,
gardens
their
home
areas,
and
things
like
that.
K
A
Thank
you,
councilor
luigien
and
I
am
going
to
allow
just
a
moment
of
virtual
public
testimony
because
we
have
a
constituent
who's,
been
waiting
and
has
to
perform
dental
surgery
in
10
minutes,
so
we're
gonna.
Let
her
join
us,
but
I
do
know
that
I
think
the
issue
she's
going
to
raise
is
one
that
I
was
going
to
ask
about
in
my
second
round,
which
is
and
I
know
it's
separate
from
the
residential
trash
contracts.
A
But
in
a
lot
of
our
mixed
use
districts,
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
really
suffering
from
the
kind
of
like
chaos
of
the
commercial
trash,
pickups
and
especially
like
overnight.
You
know:
we've
got
blocks
in
my
district
that
have
like
five
six
trucks
running
through
them
overnight
and
it's
incredibly
disruptive
and
and
and
that's
something
that
you
know
I
I
know
my
partner
up
at
the
State
House
Jay
Livingstone
has
looked
at
filing
something
on
the
state
side
to
sort
of.
A
M
Okay,
I
prepared
a
statement.
Nearly
every
night
say
25
times
in
a
month.
I
am
awakened
by
trash
trucks,
picking
up
Newbury
Street
trash
between
the
hours
of
11
pm
and
7
A.M.
The
noise
they
make
is
usually
55
to
75
decibels.
Yes,
I
bought
a
decibel
meter
and
that's
with
the
windows
closed
yesterday,
the
trash
was
picked
up
at
4
40
a.m.
This
clearly
violates
the
city
of
Boston's
noise
statute
and
is
extremely
disturbing
to
my
quality
of
life.
M
Quite
often
a
truck
will
come
by
at
midnight
and
then
a
truck
for
another
business
will
come
by
at
3
30
in
the
morning.
So
it's
not
possible
to
get
restorative
sleep
when
one
exits,
the
Star
Drive
exit
for
Copley
Square,
there's
a
sign
on
Beacon
Street
at
Arlington
that
says
no
trucks
between
11
pm
and
7
A.M
I
assume.
The
reason
for
the
sign
is
to
minimize
truck
noise
so
as
to
not
wake
the
taxpayers
up.
M
I
propose
that
a
similar
sign
replaced
at
the
entrance
to
each
alley
in
Back
Bay
and
that
the
noise
statute
be
enforced
and
that
businesses
keep
trash
inside
until
7
A.M,
like
my
Residential
Building,
does
I
see
rats
almost
every
day
and
Back
Bay
in
Fenway.
All
I
have
to
do
is
look
out.
The
window
I
see
rats.
During
the
day
when
I
come
home
from
dinner,
rats
run
past
my
feet
as
I
enter.
My
building
my
building
has
videotaped
the
rat
going
after
someone's
GrubHub
delivery
on
the
front
step.
The
rat
population
is
thriving.
M
Having
trash
picked
up
at
3am
does
not
seem
to
reduce
the
rat
problem.
It
appears
that
more
could
be
done
than
occasionally
baiting.
The
area
I
believe
that
there's
a
large
rat
Barrow
under
the
intersection
of
Gloucester
Street
and
public
alley.
431
every
time,
I
start
a
3-1-1
report.
It's
immediately
closed,
saying,
area
being
monitored
or
will
bait
the
area
again,
but
I
shouldn't
see
rats
every
day.
Please
restrict
these
Rats
from
coming
down
the
alleys
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
instead
off
the
rat
mitigation.
Thank.
A
N
N
Firstly,
my
question
is
having
to
do
with
the
nature
of
this
problem.
Counselor
Braden
indicated
at
the
outset
that
this
is
a
perennial
problem.
I'm,
not
sure
why
we're
still
dealing
with
this
perennial
problem
today.
It
might
be
useful
to
understand
the
answer
to
that
question
so
that
the
fixes
that
we
propose
are
likely
to
succeed
and
not
some
of
the
same
old
attempts
to
address
this
problem.
N
It
also
seems
to
me
that,
based
on
a
reading
of
the
code
and
the
regulations
that,
if
we
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
we
have
14
inspectional
officers
out
on
the
street,
that
if
we
of
course
enforce
the
code,
if
people
adhered
to
the
code
and
find
for
violations
of
the
code,
we
would
go
a
long
way
to
solving
this
problem.
If
we
simply
got
rid
of
the
single-ply
plastic
bags
that
that,
as
everyone
has
who
has
spoken
earlier
noted,
are
troughs
for
rats,
I
think
we
would.
N
N
I
also
want
to
reference.
Councilor
Flynn
made
a
reference
to
a
New
York
Times
article,
which
I
too
found
councilor,
Flynn
very
powerful,
and
one
of
the
things
one
of
the
takeaways
from
that
article
was
that
New
York
City
has
someone
who
owns
the
trash
problem.
They
have
a
commissioner
who
is
the
Czar
are
of
trash
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
issues
we
face
and
and
I
think
this
testimony
this
this
hearing
is
evidence
of
that
is
that
there
is
no
single
person
who
owns
this
problem.
N
Lastly,
I
think
that
there
are
some
best
practices,
not
only
across
the
country
but
across
the
world
and
I
think
it's
probably
time
to
figure
out
what
those
best
practices
are
and
Implement
them.
I.
Don't
think
it's
enough
simply
to
be
part
of
discussions
where
best
practices
are
talked
about,
but
rather
where
they
are
embraced
and
implemented
in
our
city
and
finally,
I'm
wondering
what
we
can
expect
what
citizens
of
Boston
can
expect
in
terms
of
improvement.
N
Is
there
a
dashboard
that
indicates
the
number
of
captured
rats
every
day
and
the
tonnage
of
trash
that
the
Hokies
don't
have
to
pick
up?
Are
there
ways
in
which
we
can
day-to-day
measure
our
progress,
so
that
we're
not
back
here
next
year
with
yet
an
ongoing
perennial
problem
having
much
the
same
discussion
we're
having
now
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
your
attentiveness
to
this
issue.
N
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Stein,
all
right,
I'm,
now
going
to
do
just
a
quick
second
round
of
questions
from
colleagues
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
rest
of
the
public
Testament.
We
have
a
bunch
of
folks
signed
up
in
person,
so
I'll
just
ask
colleagues
to
keep
questions
with
a
question
mark
and
sort
of
focused
so
that
we
can
get
to
the
public.
So
I
guess
for
me
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
on
this
commercial
trash
issue
and
I,
don't
know
Dennis.
A
If
there's
anything
more
that
you
can
say
on
kind
of
I
mean
to
me
I
know
we
need
some
more
power
in
order
to
be
able
to
really
regulate
it,
but
I
do
think
it's
something
where
New
York
has
tried
forcing
folks
to
at
least
coordinate
so
like
a
bunch
of
commercial
properties
on
the
same
alley.
Block
would
all
have
one
truck
or
something,
and
so
they
it
wouldn't
just
be
this
crazy
catches.
Catch
can
I,
don't
know
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
issue.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I've,
definitely
seen
how
New
York
has
tried
to
attack
it
and
try
to
regulate
the
commercial
side
of
things
and
I.
Think
I
think
it
is
a
good
direction
at
least
a
way
to
start
with
how
we
think
about
Boston,
how
we
let
businesses
come
in
and
I
mean
we.
We
have
they're
getting
this,
because
we
have
several
commercial
companies
coming
into
the
same
alley.
Each
night
in
servicing
everybody's
opening
their
own
account
with
whoever's
providing
the
cheapest
price
and
businesses
wise,
so
New
York's
getting
their
hands
around.
D
Regulating
that
I
think
that's
a
that'd
be
a
great
model
to
look
at
for
the
city,
I
believe
as
well.
There
probably
is
an
opportunity
somewhere
too,
to
to
start
to
look
at
I.
Know
it's
starting
to
take
shape
nationally
with
with
electric
versus
gas
powered
vehicles
and
how
that
impacts,
noise,
so
I,
think
the
commercial
side
of
things
could
be
would
be
a
good
way
to
to
start.
A
A
Them
great
yeah,
no
and
I.
Think
and
just
for
folks
who
are
watching
like
I
said
rep
J
Livingstone
does
have
a
bill
related
to
this.
To
sort
of
give
us
more
regulatory,
Authority
and
I.
Think
there'll
be
a
hearing
on
that
in
coming
months.
So
we'll
look
for
people
to
support
on
the
ordinance
front.
I
know
John,
you
mentioned
sort
of
the
ordinance,
but
my
impression
is
that
the
5
PM
rule
is
actually
by
virtue
of
Regulation
from
the
public
works.
A
Commissioner,
I,
don't
think
that
5
PM
is
written
in
I'm
asking
this
question,
because
if
there
was
a
council
ordinance
that
needed
to
change
I
think
we
would
want
to
know
that.
But
my
sense
is
that
the
the
actual
on
the
book's
ordinance
is
pretty
like
pretty
much
sort
of
gives
the
power
over
to
the
public.
A
A
D
I
think
that's
something
we
can
take
a
look
at
in
the
next
couple
week
or
two
and
really
get
back
to
you
guys
about
what
we
can.
You
know
what
we
can
propose
to
you.
That
would
really
help
us
into
picking
up
trash
better
on
the
streets.
So
if
you
give
us
a
little
bit
of
time
on
that,
we'll
we'll
get
we'll
get
back
to
you
with
some
specifics.
A
A
But,
as
you've
heard
me
say,
I
would
really
love
to
go
back
to
that
being
same
day,
especially
if
you
know,
especially
when
we
talk
about
non-containerized
trash,
and
so
if,
if
there
is
an
ordinance
thing
that
needs
to
happen,
I
mean
I.
Think
folks
know
it
won't.
Be
me,
writing
it,
but
I
I
have
good
friends
here
and
I
think
we
we
can
make.
But
what
we
don't
want
is
to
hear
that.
A
A
West
we've
got
a
site
on
Marlboro
that,
because
of
you
know,
it's
sort
of
the
one
address
that
doesn't
have
an
Outback,
and
so
it's
really
and
I
think
I'm
really
interested
in
how
maybe
in
the
in
this
coming
fiscal
year,
we
could
work
with
the
Department
to
do
some
pilots
in
places
where
we
have
residents
actively
asking
for
it.
You
know.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
definitely
have
some
zero
waste
coordinators
out
there
that
are
looking
nationally
and
some
things
to
kind
of
try
and
replicate.
We
haven't
found
something
that
works
particularly
well
in
Boston,
I,
think
I.
Think
proactively.
We
should
we
have
asked
for
some
money
for
a
containerization
pilot
for
next
year,
but
we
don't
have
a
specific
model
in
mind
yet
about
what
we
want
to
build.
We
we
want
to
have
that
money
in
place
as
we
find
some
type
of
solution
for
how
unique
Boston
streets
are.
A
Yeah
no
and
I'm
super
excited
about
that
money
and
that
you
guys
have
asked
for
it
and
I
think
there's
a
real
opportunity
to
kind
of
extend
from
those
conversations
we've
been
having
and
and
really
really
try
something
so
yeah.
So
that's
great
and
then
just
one
other
question.
Sorry
John
on
the
on
the
wrap,
Borough
point
I
mean
Dr
Smith
brought
it
up.
E
Front
so
as
far
as
Miss
Smith
I
think
what
she's
talking
about
might
be
private
property,
which
we're
not
allowed
to
to
do
any
kind
of
treatment.
We
write
an
abatement
and
and
the
violation
states
that
they
have
to
get
pest
control
and
address
the
issue
as
far
as
the
Boston
Commons
we're
in
there
three
times
a
week
with
the
dry
ice
right
now
in
the
the
borrow
RX
Commons
is
a
is
a
challenging
barrels,
we're
working
with
the
parks
department
and
looking
at
different
kind
of
barrels.
E
We
identify
it
we're
in
there
three
times
a
week
at
least,
and
if
something
gets
bad,
they
should
be
caving
them
in
once
they
they
treat
them
and
that's
how
we
identify
if
the
treatment
worked,
we
go
back
in
a
couple
days,
but
they
should
call
if
they're
not
seeing
what
The
Challenge
in
the
public
alley
and
and
I
think
I've
seen
the
complaints
come
in
from
Ms
Smith
is.
Is
that
if
we
go
there
and
we
don't
see
activity
and
there
is
no
violation,
all
we
can
do
is
monitor
the
the
area.
A
Got
it
yeah
and
I?
Think
probably
it's
worth
following
up.
I
want
to
stop
because
I
asked
folks
to
be
brief,
but
you
know
I,
think
this
question
of
when
we
do
write
in
it
for
an
abatement
plan
on
the
private
side
and
something
doesn't
happen,
and
especially
in
some
of
the
places
where
we
have
complex
ownership,
Arrangements
kind
of
like
what
what
our
next
step
is
to
really
make
sure
that
people
are
dealing
with
that
public
health.
So.
B
Chair
we're
hearing
lots
of
really
good
stuff
this
morning,
I
I
just
want
to
clear
up
some
confusion
like
it
seems
that
there's
two
things
that
we've
heard
this
morning,
one
was
that
there's
no
requirement
for
two
and
three
family
units
to
have
for
the
landlords
to
provide
containers,
and
yet
we
also
have
that
if
you
store
trash,
it
has
to
have
a
tight
fitting
lid.
That's
waterproof
and
I'm,
just
going
like
we
see
so
many
of
our
rentals
in
Austin
Brighton,
outside
of
the
outside
of
the
main
big
big
apartment.
B
Buildings
are
those
two
and
three
family
homes
that
are
rented
out
to
to
tenants
and
that's
where
we
see
a
lot
of
our
issues
because
they
don't
seem
to
understand
that
and
they
don't
the
landlords.
Don't
provide
tight,
fitting
containers
with
with
lids
and
it's
just
a
mess.
So
is
there?
Is
there
a
contradiction
or
how
can
we
clean
that
up.
E
So
the
I
believe
the
residents
can
put
out
a
trash
bag
the
night
before
trash.
If
it
falls
within
that,
but
to
store
trash
has
to
be
stored
on
the
property
so
for
three
units,
if
they
weren't
keeping
their
trash
just
in
their
kitchen,
if
they
just
produced
one
bag
of
trash,
they
could
take
that
bag
of
trash
and
put
it
on
on
trash
night.
If
they
are
storing
trash
on
their
property,
it
has
to
be
by
the
sanitary
code.
It
has
to
be
in
a
a
container
with
a
tight,
fitting
lid.
B
E
B
And
that's
that's
probably
the
rule
I
think
that's
that's
so
common
that
that
it's
just
it's
pervasive
and
we
and
we
have
difficulty-
you
know-
contacting
absentee
landlords
and
management
companies
to
get
and
and
I
think
this.
This
seems
to
be
like
a
loophole
that
there's
no
requirement
for
them
to
provide
secure
containers
for
you
it's
what
is
it
yeah?
There
was
no
requirement
for
two
and
three
family
homes
to
have
secured
containers.
B
Yeah,
that
seems
like
something
we
need
to
fix,
right,
yeah
and,
and
then
you
know
in
terms
of
our
our
main
streets
and
our
areas
where
more
more
commercial
spaces
the
barrel
issue.
You
know
we
have
open
top
barrels
that
rodents
can
get
in
and
out
of
very
easily
there's
a
lot
of
if
it's
a
place
where
there's
a
lot
of
restaurants.
There's
a
lot
of
fast
food,
takeout
containers,
Foods
left
Pizza,
whatever
is
left
in
the
in
the
is
there
you
know,
are
we
talking?
E
B
E
They
have,
they
are
more
broaden
proof
than
many
other
barrels.
The
drums
work
well,
if
they're
covered
I
believe
the
public
added
garden
now
has
drums
with
PVC
caps
on
them.
Those
work
really
well
big
bellies
if
they
remain
operating
I
think
sometimes
they
they
might
have
an
issue
breaking
down
or
there's
an
issue
with
the
compactor
inside.
But
it's
a
very
good
system
to
contain
trash.
We're.
D
Going
to
be
piloting
a
program
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
two
months,
probably
from
a
company
called
City
bin
and
they
we're
going
to
use
it
for
our
project.
Oscar
food
storage
containers
that
you
see
around
food
composting
continues
to
see
around
the
city
and
they
complain
to
be
fully
past
proof,
including
rodents,
so
they
used
in
other
jurisdictions.
Other
cities
Harvard
uses
them
now.
B
B
I
think
you
know
the
project
Oscar,
we've
we've.
We
have.
We
get
calls
frequently
of
folks
who
live
in
those
units
that
are
more
than
six
six
units
and
they
really
want
to
compost.
They
don't
want
to
put
their
food
out
in
the
in
the
trash,
and
you
know
having
having
more
accessible
composting
food
composting
opportunities
would
be
really
helpful.
B
Bin
yeah
and
I
do
know
that
I've
I've
had
complaints
from
folks
who
live
in
public
housing
that
this
project
Oscar
was
a
little
close
to
their
apartment
and
not
not
the
most
Pleasant
thing
to
have
a
project
Oscar
a
food
space.
You
know
20
feet
from
your
windows,
so
yeah
I
can
appreciate
them
as
a
challenge.
Thank
you,
madam.
G
E
G
Okay,
I
would
like
to
see
have
having
a
a
a
department
or
an
agency
or
a
working
group,
but
you
know
taking
all
of
the
Departments
that
are
involved
in
Pest
Control
such
as
Jaws
such
as
public
works
such
as
water
and
sewer
environment,
Department,
anyone
that
has
anything
at
all
to
do
with
Pest
Control
Box
department,
but
have
a
senior
person
over
that.
Where
you
are
major,
your
only
responsibility
is
dealing
with
Pest
Control.
E
G
Thanks
John
I
think
one
person
mentioned
I,
don't
know
if
I
was
on
the
video
or
not,
but
I
actually
saw
it
myself
as
a
garbage
truck
was
on
in
the
South
End
or
maybe
it
was
in
the
maybe
it
was
in
the
Beacon
Hill
area.
I
forget,
but
there
was,
there
was
parking.
There
was
a
bike
lane
and
then
it
was
the
garbage
truck
the
garbage
trucks
practically
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
and
so
the
garbage
truck
couldn't
get
to
the
sidewalk.
G
Basically,
so
the
the
guy,
the
garbage
garbage
man
who's
working
very
hard,
very
professional
he's
like
trying
to
go
in
between
cars,
he's
trying
to
go
in
between
the
bikes
he's
going
over
the
the
bike
lane
area
and
again
he's
doing
the
best
he
can
and
he's
professional.
But
it's
it's
it's
a
recipe
for
disaster,
unfair,
in
my
opinion,
unfair
to
the
the
maintenance
man
that
that
has
to
do
that
type
of
do
that
type
of
work
was
setting
him
up
for
failure.
G
D
Gotten
that
you
know
I
think
it's
slowed
down
our
trash
truck
service
in
the
city
streets
of
that
a
little
bit
harder
to
navigate
the
trucks
that
size
has
definitely
slowed
it
down.
We're
seeing
later,
you
know
finish
times
as
we
call
it
in
the
industry
just
because
of
just
harder
streets
to
navigate.
G
And
and
I
also
seen
people
behind
the
garbage
truck.
You
know
beeping
at
the
guy.
You
know
basically
telling
the
guy
to
hurry
up
he's
doing
the
best
he
can
and
someone's
impatient
and
they're,
giving
the
garbage
guy
a
hard
time,
and
it's
putting
stress
on
him
and
his
job
he's
working
hard
as
it
is.
He
doesn't
need
added
added
stress
in
my
in
my
opinion,
but
those
guys
really
do
a
great
job
under
very
difficult
and
a
very
difficult
circumstances.
G
G
D
Submitted
some
some
some
money
for,
like
some
containerization
Pilots,
we
certainly
submitted
some
resources
in
terms
of
Staffing
and
looking
at
you
know,
I
know
we're
always
looking
for
you
know
more
inspectors.
City-Wide
Council
colletta
brought
up
a
point
earlier
about.
You
know
having
Hokies
follow
trash
tracks,
which
we
haven't
looked
at
yet,
which
I
think
is
a
decent
idea
to
take
a
peek
at,
but
we
also
have.
D
We
have
proposals
on
the
table
to
create
a
neighborhood
charm,
which
is
a
hard
to
recycle
facility
that
the
city
will
be
looking
at
to
recycle
all
types
of
things,
from
hazardous
waste
to
E-Waste
to
reuse
type
items.
Things
like
that.
So
we're
looking
at
properties
for
that
which
we've
put
in
a
particular
budget
and
we're
looking
at
more
support,
probably
regionally
about
how
and
we,
how
we
deliver
food
compost.
So
there's
all
kinds
of
initiatives
that
that
have
been
put
into
the
budget
for
those
types
of
programs.
That
would
obviously
appreciate
support
on
the.
D
Higher
it's
higher,
it's
higher
yeah,
so
it's
traditionally
the
last
year
or
two
trashes
is
about
92.
A
ton.
Recycling
fluctuates
it's
month
to
month.
It
got
as
high
as
135
a
ton.
It's
settled
in
right
now
between
we're
at
110
115,
a
ton
to
a
cycle.
Those
numbers
are
constantly
moving
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
were
at
forty
dollars
a
ton
for
recycling.
It
all
depends
on
the
end
markets
and
and
what
the,
what
the
you
know,
what
the
opportunity
is
to
resell
these
materials.
G
And
I
and
I
asked
that
and
that
knowing
I
I
support,
compost
and
again
my
wife
and
I
are
part
of
the
pilot
program.
So
we
support
the
program,
it
does
work,
but
we
also
have
to
acknowledge,
as
we
continue
to
advance
the
composting
program.
City-Wide
eventually
hope.
Hopefully,
everyone
at
some
point
is
is
participating
is
doing
composting.
That
will
be
another
huge
cost
for
the
tax
pays
as
well.
Yeah.
D
G
D
One
of
the
advances
they've
made
is
is
how
to
combine
yard
waste
with
food
waste
and
they're,
trying
they're
trying
things
in
different
areas
and
we're
closely
monitoring
how
to
do
that
to
take
more
trucks
off
the
street
and
keeping
materials
together
and
co-mingled
in
that
particular
way.
But
but
yes,
every
time
you
ban
a
material,
we
now
have
a
mattress
truck
called
there's
two
mattress
trucks
on
the
street.
Every
day
we
have.
G
A
You
council,
president
Flynn,
and
thank
you
for
your
Relentless
advocacy
on
these
issues.
I
should
also
say
that
on
the
composting
pilot,
this
is
a
council
of
haves
and
have-nots.
You
know,
counselor
Flynn
is
in
the
pilot
I.
Think
councilor
Jen
said
that
she's
in
the
pilot
I
am
stuck
on.
Okay,
counselor
Braden
is
in
the
pilot.
I
am
stuck
on
the
wait
list
for
the
pilot.
Counselor
Murphy
is
stuck
on
the
waitlist
for
the
pilot.
So
you
know
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record:
okay,
Ken!
I
Thank
you
chair,
even
though
you
won't
be
with
us
to
help
craft.
This
ordinance
I
know
that
I
will
be
calling
you
frequently
for
all
things:
rats
and
trash
for
VHA
properties.
So
congratulations,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
dive
deeper
into
the
the
contracts
a
little
bit.
The
fines
we
had
mentioned
were
something
that
is
of
interest
to
all
of
you.
What
would
be
the
vehicle
in
which
we
Institute
that
hook?
Is
it?
Is
it
the
contract?
D
So
that
would
go
inside
the
contract
and
we
would
we
would
definitely
be
looking
at
National
best
practices
for
how
to
Institute
those
particular
finds
of
what
dollar
amounts
that
are
effective
nationally
and
that's
part
of
the
trash.
Fellow
that's:
why
we're
getting
a
trash
fellow
on
board,
they're,
going
to
look
at
some
National
Best
Practices,
how
other
jurors
addictions
are
are
making
sure
that
are
their
contractors
are
in
compliance
and
following
the
rules
and
regulations,
and
things
like
that,
so
that's
that's.
D
I
And
we
Echo
my
colleagues
just
trying
to
get
that
job
description
and
job
position
out
there
just
to
get
the
ball
rolling
on
that
I'm,
so
happy
to
assist
in
that
way.
I'm
happy
that
you
underscored
the
The
Hokey
idea.
I
do
think
that
again
there
is
an
opportunity
here
to
get
them
to
pay
for
it
too,
and
so
my
question
is
because
you
had
mentioned
earlier
that
you're
going
to
be
putting
this
out
to
bid
in
November
2023.
D
No,
absolutely
part
of
this
trash
fellow
is
to
work
with.
All
stakeholders
is
to
come
in
begin
to
work
with
all
stakeholders,
whether
it
be
Neighborhood
Services,
whether
it
be
residents,
whether
it
be
the
city
council,
but
to
really
get
General
sense
of
what
everybody's
seen
hearing
out
there
as
we
look
at
National
best
practice
models
and
combine
all
that
and
get
the
best
particular
trash
contract.
We
can
get
out
the
street
next
November.
I
Okay:
okay,
great!
Thank
you!
Something
that
I,
don't
think
has
been
brought
up,
is
just
the
the
public
trash
barrels
that
are
across
the
city.
We
have
them
in
the
North
End
we
have
two
million
visitors,
they
usually
are
are
heavily
used
and
overflowing
I
know
in
East.
Boston
I
have
folks
calling
for
more
trash
barrels,
so
something
that
you
did
not
bring
up
when
we
were
talking
about
your
budget
asks
or
certain
things
that
we
can
help
with
the
budget
or
these
trash
barrels.
I
D
I
I
Thinking
about
how
this
growth,
not
only
just
with
housing
but
with
office
and
workspace,
how
it
will
impact
our
infrastructure,
our
roads,
our
transit
system,
our
park,
space,
all
the
way
down
to
water
and
sewer,
and
then
city
services,
which
is
trash,
pickup
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
you've
been
involved
in
these
conversations
with
the
bpda
and
how
we
weave
your
perspective
in
as
we're
thinking
about
our
growth
in
our
city.
How
we're
going
to
integrate
city
services
and
trash
pickups
for
an
additional
number
of
people
coming
to
our
communities.
D
D
D
So
just
I
will
give
credit
to
the
BHA
who's
come
to
us
and
they
are
working
on
a
pilot
that
was
money
that
we
asked
for
actually
more
of
a
study
about
how
waste
reduction
is
handled
in
BHA
units
and
they
access
some
money.
That
was
given
to
us
through
the
council
to
advertise
for
a
particular
study
in
BHA
facilities.
I
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's
it
for
me.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
your
work.
I
look
forward
to
these
these
future
conversations
and
potentially
calling
you
about
individual
caseloads,
which
you
all
are
very
responsive
and
and
excellent
in
terms
of
your
your
customer
service,
if
you
will
for
constituents,
so
thank.
A
K
Have
the
floor,
thank
you,
councilor
Bach
I
think
you
asked
one
of
my
questions
regarding
the
ordinance
which
we
believe
you
know
is,
is
limiting
and
so
I
look
forward
to
the
new
staffers
coming
on
and
sort
of
working
with
the
council
to
think
about
how
we
can
update
that
just
a
question
about
whether
we
and
it
sounds
like
we
don't
but
correct
me.
If
we
do
that,
we
don't
have
a
public-facing
waste
management
plan
for
the
city
of
Boston.
K
That
could
be
helpful
to
getting
more
to
engaging
residents
and
constituents
and
academic
institutions.
Other
institutions
to
helping
us
find
Solutions
like
do.
Is
there
potential
value
in
having
a
public-facing
waste
management
plan
that
we
can
all
sort
of
look
at
buy
into
figure
out
where
we,
where
we
see
ourselves
so.
D
K
K
K
Okay,
thank
you
that
that
would
be
my
I
have.
That
will
be
my
only
question
for
for
this
moment.
I
know
that
folks
have
been
waiting
to
give
public
testimony,
so
I
want
to
turn
to
them,
and
just
we
look
forward
to
being
in
deep
partnership
with
all
of
you
and
Council
Bach,
even
as
she
sheds
her
counselor
role.
So
thank
you.
A
A
If
you
can
just
come
up
to
either
one
of
these
mics
on
the
side,
if
you
can
make
sure
that
you
speak
into
the
mic,
so
it
means
leaning
into
it
a
little
bit
just
because,
even
though
we
can
hear
you
in
the
room,
if
you
don't
speak
into
it,
the
people
watching
on
the
live
stream
can't
hear
you.
And
if
you
just
limit
your
comments
to
a
few
minutes
and
describe
you
know
what
neighborhood
you
live
in,
or
what
organization
you're
affiliated
with
et
cetera.
That
would
be
fantastic.
A
Just
with
the
start
of
the
pilot,
so
we're
building
that
and
then
the
charm
that
was
mentioned,
the
center
for
hard
to
recycle
materials
is
something
that
the
council
also
put
arpa
dollars
into.
So
I
just
want
a
flag
that
I
think
there
and,
of
course
those
zero
waste
employees.
So
I
do
think.
There's
been
really
good
collaboration
and
we
just
really
appreciate
the
department
being
so
kind
of
open
about.
A
You
know
the
opportunities
and
I
think
the
main
main
main
thing
is
that
we
just
really
don't
want
to
miss
the
opportunity
with
the
trash
contract
to
get
something
as
well
tailored
to
our
needs
as
possible.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
guys
so
much
all
right,
so
Karen
Clark
and
the
meganoff
Karen,
if
you
want
to
just
come,
come
up
to
the
standing
mic
over
there.
A
A
H
O
O
Yeah
here,
yeah
I
think
it's
on
yeah,
okay.
Well,
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
to
testify.
I've
never
done
this
before
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
I've
learned
a
lot
and
I
can
see
from
all
the
professionals
here.
It's
a
very
complicated
issue
and
I'm
frankly,
quite
encouraged
by
everything
I'm
hearing
and
thank
you
for
all
that.
You're
doing
and
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
solutions
that
we've
talked
about.
O
Two
main
ones
of
we
need
proper
containers
and
we
also
need
to
change
the
time
when
residents
can
put
the
garbage
out
if
they're
going
to
put
it
in
plastic
bags.
However,
I
have
a
separate
issue
to
bring
up
which
has
not
really
been
discussed,
and
that
is
residents
putting
out
trash
in
inappropriate
containers.
We
seem
to
be
assuming
that
they're
going
in
plastic
bags,
but
they're
not
and
also
putting
trash
out
any
time
of
day,
okay
I'm
an
expert
in
Fairfield
street,
so
I
have
a
little
photo
Journey
here.
O
The
three
blocks
between
Beacon
Street
and
Boylston
Street-
and
there
are
three
public
alleys
there
and
any
day
of
the
week
and
any
time
of
the
day
you
can
see
in
those
alleys
trash
put
out
in
inappropriate
containers.
So
it's
really
by
changing
the
time
we're
not
helping
to
get
make
sure
trash
is
in
the
appropriate
issues,
a
containers.
So
if
everyone,
if
you
could
just
go,
there,
are
a
lot
of
photos
here,
but
just
to
six
and
seven
please
I
can
describe
the
containers
that
people
are
putting
their
trash
out
in
paper
bags.
O
That
seems
to
be
a
very
popular
One
open
paper
bags
that,
of
course,
build
boxes.
Boxes
are
everywhere
and
open
boxes
where
people
will
just
throw
things
into
the
boxes
and,
of
course,
cardboard
just
pieces
of
cardboard
just
thrown
out
in
the
alley
and
so
on.
Six
I
asked
you:
is
this
an
appropriate
way,
and
this
is
not
Community
dumping?
I?
Don't
think
people
are
driving
in
from
the
suburbs
to
dump
a
paper
bag
here
so
and
then
you
can
see
what
happens
to
Fairfield
Street.
O
This
is
what
it
looks
like
the
sidewalks
when
the
wind
blows
in
Boston,
which
it
always
does.
This
is
what
the
streets
of
this
sidewalks
look
like
if
you
just
flip
down
to
page
eight
and
nine.
This
is
a
question.
Is
this
what
you're,
seeing
here
before
or
after
trash
pickup
it's
hard
to
tell,
because
there
is
a
mess
in
the
street,
but
they're
also
again
bags
set
out
like
McDonald's
fries
boxes,
just
trash
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
problems
is,
you
know
trash
begets
trash.
O
You
know
if
there's
trash
in
the
alley,
people
walking
by
say.
Oh,
this
is
just
a
little
trash
bin.
Let
me
just
throw
my
trash
here,
particularly
look.
My
favorite
here
is
in
the
bottom
of
nine.
If
you
look
at
slide
nine
on
the
right,
the
little
green
bags
there,
those
are
little
doggy,
poop
bags,
I
love.
Now
how
and
I
caught
someone
dumping
one
on
so
it's
like
again
trash
begets
trash,
so
we
just
have
people
dumping
trash
really
anywhere.
O
O
Finally,
before
trash
day,
trash
won't
be
in
any
container,
it'll
be
dumped
on
top,
and
if
you
look
at
slide,
12
you'll
see
what
that
looks
like
in
preparation
for
the
trash
people
to
pick
up
and
then
on.
13
is
again
my
favorite
all
the
boxes
boxes
are
everywhere.
People
are
just
throwing
their
boxes
out
on
the
Alley,
so
I.
You
know
it's
concerning
to
me
that
residents,
it's
very
disappointing.
O
O
Some
of
them
come
back
saying
it's
not
a
violation
which
it
is
some
of
them
say
they
have
issued
the
fines,
but
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
helping
because
it
just
keeps
getting
worse.
As
I
said
any
day
of
the
week,
any
time
of
day
you
can,
you
can
see
that
on
16
you
can
see,
people
are
now
just
putting
it
in
the
alley.
O
If
you
look
at
19,
you
can
see
what
the
sidewalk
looks
like
after
trash
pickup
so
and
then.
Finally,
21
and
20
show
you
that
again
trash
begets
trash.
You
know,
there's
one
doggy
poop
pipe
piled
up,
poop
bag,
there
now
they're
five,
now
they're
six,
and
this
is
a
half
a
block
from
the
trash
container
in
com
app.
So
what's
the
solution?
I've
been
thinking
here,
you
have
all
these
hard
problems.
O
How
do
we
solve
this?
I
think
this
is
a
very
naughty
problem,
but
one
of
the
things
I
thought
of
is
you
know,
president
Flynn,
you
were
talking
about
education.
Are
people
I?
Don't
think
it's
shocking
to
me
that
people
in
Back
Bay
have
to
be
educated,
that
you
don't
drop
your
poop
bags
on
the
corner
and
you
don't
put
your
trash
out
in
a
paper
bag,
but
unfortunately,
it's
not
just
in
Chinatown
I.
Think
people,
even
in
Back
Bay
need
to
be
educated
on
how
to
put
the
trash
out.
O
And
how
do
we
do
that?
Well,
we
need
to
do
that.
Maybe
even
I'm
thinking
like
signs
on
the
corner
of
the
alley
saying
please
do
not
dump
your
trash
here.
There
is
a
proper
receptacle.
You
know
half
a
block
away,
but
to
me
again,
you're
doing
all
this
hard
work
and
you're
making
sure
that
all
and
I've
seen
the
Boston
Public
Works
people
picking
up
the
trash,
but
they
are
awesome.
O
I
mean
they
really
do
a
great
job,
but
really
do
we
want
our
tax
dollars
to
go
to
paying
people
to
clean
up
after
people
who
just
really
can't
understand
how
to
put
put
the
trash
out.
So
hopefully
we
can
educate
our
residents
a
little
better,
because
even
with
all
the
changes
that
you're
making
I
don't
see
that
solving
Fairfield
street,
because
people
just
put
it
out
whenever
they
want
in
you
know
inappropriate
containers.
So
thank
you.
A
P
The
floor
thanks
thanks.
Thank
you
to
City
councilor,
specifically
counselors
block
and
Flynn,
for
holding
the
hearing
today
on
the
trash
and
Garbage
Contract
in
the
rat
mitigation
issues,
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
voice
our
needs
and
concerns
of
our
neighborhood
and
really
participate
in
the
trash
process
and
the
recycling
trash
and
recycling
collection
and
sanitation.
These
issues
dramatically
impact
daily
quality
of
life
on
Beacon
Hill.
P
As
you
know,
and
was
mentioned
this
morning,
the
current
collection
practice
allows
for
residents
to
put
trash
and
recycling
out,
starting
at
5
PM
the
night
before
for
the
6
a.m.
Collection
start
in
many
cases,
as
documented
by
photos
and
printed
booklets,
and
submissions
to
311
calls
to
our
bhca
office.
P
Trash
is
often
out
on
the
sidewalk
overnight
and
routinely
for
that
full
24-hour
period
by
any
reasonable
standard
having
trash
out
and
obstructing
sidewalks
is
unacceptable
and
the
result
are
many
public
health
threats
to
the
residents.
The
non
non-exhaustive
aspects
include
accessibility
and
use
of
the
sidewalks
and
general
cleanliness,
but,
of
course,
providing
a
food
source
for
the
exploding
and
thriving
rat
population,
as
already
described
in
the
city.
The
bhca
has
studied
trash
collection
at
length
and
we
understand
the
complicated
logistical
issues
faced
by
the
city.
P
Beacon
hell
is
an
extremely
dense
neighborhood,
especially
in
the
North
Slope
and
the
contract
in
the
contract.
Now
Beacon
Hill
is
coupled
with
Charlestown
and
the
North
End
and
Roxbury,
as
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
briefly,
we're
acutely
impacted
in
the
same
way,
the
other
neighborhoods
are
specifically
Charlestown
in
the
North
End,
which
it
just
we're
so
dense
and
briefly
in
response
to
educating
neighbors
and
getting
communities
more
involved.
P
We
also,
we
really
look
forward
to
further
partnering
and
continuing
our
collaboration
with
the
city
to
find
a
better
balance
with
the
collection
zones
and
make
sure
that
they're
during
daylight
hours
and
with
respect
to
tip
rates
and
total
tons
of
trash
collected
throughout
the
city.
We
also
are
interested
in,
of
course,
the
reduction
of
illegal
trash
dumps
out
on
the
streets
and
sidewalks
and
the
direction
and
the
reduction
of
overall
trash
volume.
P
The
bhca
steadfastly
supports
the
same
day
pickup,
so
there
is
no
trash
out
on
the
sidewalks
overnight.
Specifically,
a
6
a.m
start
time
for
putting
trash
out
with
collection,
beginning
no
earlier
than
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
again,
trash
should
be
out
only
during
the
daylight.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Q
Thank
you
both
councilor
Bach
and
Flynn,
for
holding
this
Nancy
Morris
wrote
from
Bay
Village
and
I'm
going
to
be
very
brief.
10
years
ago,
I
was
here
trying
to
get
the
part
of
a
group
trying
to
get
trash
pickup
reduced
down
to
two
from
three
days
and
to
add
a
day
of
recycling
which
was
tremendous
to
get
the
trash
off
the
streets
seven
days
a
week.
What
I
hoped
was
down
to
two,
because
five
years
ago,
I
was
also
part
of
a
group
that
was
pushing
for
a
later
drop-off
time
for
trash.
Q
So
we
could
residents
were
encouraged
to
put
trash
out
the
day
of.
Instead
we
got
a
5
PM
to
reiterate:
Beacon
Hill
5
PM
the
day
before.
So
what
I'm
asking
is
for
the
city
council
to
consider
please
having
same
day
put
out
the
trash
and
I
also
am
encouraged
to
hear
Beacon
Hill
say
no
earlier
than
9
pm.
That
way,
the
residents
will
all
be
encouraged
to
put
the
trash
out
the
same
day
and
I
think
we
should
have
a
budget
for
a
trash
SAR
going
for
it.
Thank
you.
A
R
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
this
hearing
I'm
sure
that
Nancy
meant
9
00
a.m
and
not
9
00
p.m.
Yeah
the
pickup
the
6
a.m.
Pickup
is
telling
people
to
put
their
trash
out
the
night
before
it's
not
sort
of
kind
of
saying
you
can
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
put
it
out
to
beat
a
6
a.m.
Pickup
very
few,
a
Back
Bay
is
different
than
most
neighborhoods.
Our
trash
isn't
picked
up
from
the
streets.
R
It
can
lead
to
five
six
seven
different
trash
trucks
coming
down
an
alley.
One
night
we've
had
that
problem.
I
happen
to
live
in
one
of
the
buildings
that
does
back
up
directly
to
an
alley
and,
and
one
of
the
residents
in
our
building
told
me
the
story.
Her
husband
is
now
suffering
from
Alzheimer's.
He
has
a
terrible
time
sleeping
to
begin
with
and
she
is
recorded
as
many
as
seven
different
trash
trucks
over
the
course
of
the
night
and
that's
just
an
impossible.
R
The
the
storage
of
of
trash
from
restaurants
is
I
think
something
that
we
have
to
look
at
as
well.
We
talk
to
them
when
they
come
in
for
new
licenses
and
we
try
and
get
the
indoor
storage
of
trash
that's
a
challenge
because
they
have
to
pay
back
bay
rents
for
the
space
that
they
store
their
indoor
trash
in.
R
R
Clearly,
we
don't
want
to
have
the
kind
of
situation
that
was
Illustrated
along
Fairfield
Street,
which
only
proves
that
that
our
neighborhood
isn't
exempt
from
any
of
the
issues
that
happen
in
any
other
neighborhood
it's
very
hard,
but
please
if
we
can
advance
that
truck
start
time
to
a
later
time,
we'll
have
less
I
mean.
Hopefully
we
can
tell
people,
they
can't
put
their
trash
out
the
night
before
and
they'll
have
a
reason
to
put
it
out.
R
A
J
J
J
Buildings
are
damaged
by
teeth,
sharpening,
as
well
as
the
Vermin
and
feces.
They
introduce
rats
utilize,
a
Subterranean
Network
to
get
around
I,
rarely
see
them,
but
am
reminded
almost
daily
that
I
live
with
them.
I
think
the
city
requires
a
more
comprehensive
program
to
address
the
Subterranean
rat
Network.
J
As
for
containment,
composting
is
the
most
encouraging
development
to
contain
food
waste
and
I'm.
An
enthusiastic
participant,
but
plastic
trash
and
recycling
bags
are
also
part
of
the
problem,
as
well
as
other
previously
mentioned.
Non-Sanctioned
containment
methods
for
but
for
buildings
with
six
or
less
units,
which
are
often
walk-ups
I,
already
hear.
Folks
complain
that
even
moving
combo
spins
up
and
down
is
a
hardship.
A
S
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
holding
this
hearing
I
think
it's
really
important
and
I've
been
here
involved
in
the
last
I.
Guess
two
contract
hearings.
So
it's
good
to
be
back
and
I
feel
like
this
time
is
different.
It
feels
that
including
the
stakeholders,
it's
the
really
the
first
time,
I've
heard
that
in
many
years
so
I
appreciate
bringing
everyone
to
the
table
to
find
a
solution
to
this
complex
problem.
Once
again,
my
name
is
Diana
cauldron.
S
I've
lived
on
Beacon
Hill
for
over
two
decades,
all
over
Beacon
Hill,
which
has
been
a
fortunate
experience
for
my
family,
and
we
know
that
rats
can
cause
disease,
psychological
stress
and
economic
damage.
It
is
Well
documented
that
one
of
the
most
effective
ways
as
we've
discussed
is
to
reduce
the
amount
of
time
that
the
food
or
trash
is
on
the
street,
and
the
recent
dramatic
increase
in
Rat
sightings,
as
evidenced
by
the
3-1-1
reports,
has
led
to
a
decrease
in
overall
quality
of
life
in
Boston
and
in
Beacon
Hill
over
the
past
seven
days.
S
The
second
thing
I'd
like
to
advocate
for
is
for
trash
and
recycling
to
be
picked
up
along
our
Main
Street,
which
is
Charles
Street
first
currently,
trash
and
recycling
can
sit
out
on
that
street
up
until
4
pm
some
days.
This
street
is
bustling
with
visitors
and
residents
and
is
a
prime
tourist
destination.
Tourists
have
recently
commented
to
several
store
owners
on
the
condition
of
the
trash
being
left
on
the
street
and
that
they've
had
to
step
over
it
to
make
their
way
down
the
sidewalk
analyzing.
S
The
impact
of
policy
changes
in
New
York
City
May
provide
Boston
with
best
practices
that
can
be
implemented
with
the
next
trash
contract.
It
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
these
new
rules
impact
the
rat
issue
in
New,
York
City,
beginning
recently
on
April
1st
residents
in
New
York
can
place
their
trash
out
in
bags
at
8
pm.
S
However,
as
early
as
6
PM,
if
they're,
using
a
container
with
the
goal
of
minimizing
the
amount
of
time
on
the
trash
on
the
street
of
up
to
only
four
hours,
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
once
again
that
all
stakeholders
will
be
involved,
please
include
the
Beacon
Hill
civic
association
as
a
stakeholder.
They
are
able
to
facilitate
communication
regarding
quality
of
life
issues
to
all
Beacon
Hill
residents
quite
effectively.
Thank
you
once
again
for
organizing
this
public
hearing
and
working
together
to
improve
the
overall
quality
of
life
for
residents
in
Boston
and
Beacon
Hill.
T
Yeah,
thank
you
for
having
us
I've
been
involved
with
the
rodent
problem
in
in
Boston
for
about
three
years
now
you
know
at
councilor,
Flynn
we've
met
several
times
and
I.
Think
I
would
start
by
saying
that
I've
heard
a
sense
that
hey
the
rat
problem
is
getting
a
little
bit
better.
We're
not
seeing
as
much
as
we
did
during
covid
and
I
would
say
that
that's
a
dangerous
thing
to
say,
because
we've
gone
from
the
rat
problem
being
a
horrendous
problem
to
the
problem
being
a
a
really
bad
problem.
T
So
it's
it's!
It's
not
solved.
It's
not
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
over
these
three
years,
I've
I've,
seen
that
the
individual
departments
have
done
some
really
good
things
to
incrementally
improve
how
we're
handling
the
rats,
but
the
rats
are
winning
and
and
I
would
Advocate
to
just
as
several
people
are
saying,
to
put
a
a
rat
mitigation
or
a
rodent
mitigations
are,
which
includes,
you
know,
garbage
programs.
You
know
trash
programs
as
part
of
that,
as
as
being
a
way
to
look
at
this
in
a
different
way.
T
Not
the
way
we've
been
looking
at
it
in
the
past,
but
looking
at
it
from
a
big.
A
big
bet
perspective
as
an
example,
for
instance
in
Union
Park
we're
going
to
roll
out
trash
bins
that
the
association
is
going
to
fund
and
that's
happening
this
spring.
But
there's
22
percent
of
the
residences.
Don't
have
space
for
barrels.
So
how
do
we
handle
that?
And
one
of
the
big
bets
that
I've
discussed
with
inspectional
Services
is
hey?
T
What
about
you
know:
underground
systems
large
above
ground
systems
that
that
require
specialized
trucks?
And
this
is
a
great
time
to
look
at
something
like
that,
because,
as
you're
going
out
to
bid
I
understand
it,
it
takes
a
long
time
to
get
involved
with
a
very
different
way
of
looking
at
at
trash
removal
and
storage.
But
it
would
be
a
great
thing
to
be
able
to
put
into
the
bid
process
a
way
of
looking
at
neighborhoods,
like
Union
Park,
where
it's
22
percent,
that
can't
utilize
barrels
or
the
North
End.
T
Who
is
probably
90
percent
that
can't
utilize
barrels?
Is
there
a
way
to
put
these
systems
underground
so
that
people
are
putting
their
trash
bags
in
these
large
underground
systems,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
setting
this
mortgage
board
up
for
for
the
rats
themselves
and
I
understand?
You
know
the
first
reaction
from
the
Departments?
Are
we
can't
do
that?
Boston
is
a
different
kind
of
city.
It's
not
like
the
Netherlands,
where
100
percent
of
their
trash
is
in
underground
receptacles.
We
have
very,
very
small
sidewalks.
T
We
have
very
dense
populations,
but
there
are
ways
of
doing
that
and
having
a
czar
in
place
that
would
look
at
researching,
what's
being
done
in
Europe,
what's
being
done
in
New,
York,
City,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
you
know,
finding
these
best
practices
and
and
digging
in
deeper
than
the
individual
departments
can
to
do
this
differently.
I
would
I
would
strongly
recommend
you
know
budgeting
for
Azara
to
do
that.
T
A
L
I.
Think
my
background
in
recycling
might
be
helpful.
One
of
the
things
that
we
found
in
New
Hampshire
Hampshire,
which
is
recent,
is
that
the
change
in
plastic
collection
has
been
dramatic.
They
no
longer
will
pick
up
all
the
plastic
for
recycling.
The
only
thing
that
is
getting
recycled
now
are
the
bottles
like
you
see
here,
the
two
water
bottles,
the
milk
translucent
containers
and
there's
one
other
category.
L
We
have
Source
separation,
mostly
in
New
Hampshire,
Source,
single
stream,
absolutely
ruined
the
recycling
Marketplace,
but
the
number
of
towns
have
taken
it
on
themselves
that
they're
not
picking
up
anything
for
recycling
other
than
these
bottles
and
I'm
talking
plastic
other
than
these
bottles
and
the
translucent
milk
jugs.
So
I'm
wondering
if
the
city
is
looking
at
that
as
an
opportunity,
because,
as
everyone
knows,
trying
to
recycle
plastic
is
a
losing
proposition
financially.
L
L
It's
far
too
large
for
where
we
live,
we'd
have
to
take
it
up
and
down
two
and
three
flights
of
stairs
the
little
refrigerator
bucket
is
too
big
for
the
little
refrigerator
we
have
so
we
had
it
delivered
and
had
to
turn
it
back
and
I've
talked
with
Andre
Scarfo
I
believe
it
is
Andrea
Scarfo
about
in
wave
two.
Could
you
provide
like
bootstrap
does,
which
we
use
the
five
gallon
bucket,
which
we
have
on
our
back
deck,
that's
much
easier
to
handle,
and
it
it's
the
kind
of
environment
we
live
in.
L
It's
it's
much
more
efficient
than
trying
to
Lug
12
gallon
container
up
and
down
the
stairs
and
I.
Think
those
were
my
only
two
yeah
okay,
oh
no
I'm,
sorry,
one
one
more
thing
that
the
motto
has
changed
in
New
Hampshire.
It
is
now
when
in
doubt
throw
it
out
people
today,
I,
don't
know
what
the
contamination
rate
is
in
Boston,
but
the
contamination
rate
in
recycling
has
been
very,
very
high
because
people
are
putting
everything
in
it
and
wish
it
gets
recycled.
Most
plastic
today
is
not
recycled.
It
goes
through
the
Murph.
L
U
Excuse
me,
but
also
the
coordination
of
mixed
commercial,
restaurant
and
residential
environment.
There
needs
to
be
some
comments
in
the
regulations,
I
think
about
joint
responsibility.
Newbury
Street
has
become
a
large
restaurant
and
folks
who
live
behind
it,
who
share
the
alley,
obviously
are
dealing
with
with
that
issue.
U
The
second
thing
that
that
I've
heard
today
is
the
need
for
a
public
education
campaign
and
I
think
that
the
city
council
is
in
a
wonderful
position
to
actually
go
out
front
and
advise
folks
in
the
city
what
they
should
be
doing
to
help
the
trash
problem.
Signs
and
alleys
are
also
important,
but
education
in
a
population.
That's
fluid
that
changes
each
year.
U
I
just
returned
from
cities
which
have
dealt
with
this
problem,
San
Francisco,
Los,
Angeles
and
Chicago,
and
they
have
restricted
collection
times.
They
have
required
hard
containers
in
Europe.
They
have
containers
that
take
up
space
at
the
end
of
alleys,
not
in
each
building.
All
of
those
I
would
hope
that
city
council
considers
so
again
I
appreciate
the
efforts
being
taken
by
the
committee.
U
V
Yes,
thank
you
councilor
buck
and,
as
you
mentioned,
I
live
in
the
North
End,
but
I'm.
Also
the
chair
of
the
alliance
of
downtown
Civic
organizations,
which
is
an
alliance
between
many
of
the
folks
who've,
already
spoken
on
individual
neighborhood
issues.
One
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
do
is
reinforce
what
Back,
Bay
and
Beacon
Hill
and
Bay
Village
and
all
of
South
and
all
the
other
organizations
have
said
that
there
are
specific
neighborhood
needs.
V
So
you
won't
be
able
to
issue
a
fine.
It's
an
out-of-towner
or
someone
cleaning
up
after
and
out
of
town
or
who's
going
to
do
this.
So
we
have
sort
of
allowed
ourselves
to
fall
into
this
trap.
Where
we
can
res,
we
can
educate
every
resident
in
the
city,
but
but
you
still
have
four
thousand
growing
number
of
people
who
are
going
to
be.
You
know
staying
in
a
de
facto
hotel
which
is
not
paying
for
trash
removal.
They
are
not
paying
for
security
they're
not
paying
for
Public
Safety.
V
They
are
free
riding
on
the
city
budget
and
I
would
just
suggest
that,
as
you
think
about
budgets
and
as
you
think,
about
a
solution
to
this
problem,
in
addition
to
maybe
coming
up
with
a
czar
and
desiloing
some
of
the
trash
removal,
when
and
I
would
say
when
not.
If
we
revisit
the
the
short-term
rental
rental
ordinance,
we
should
make
sure
that
there's
a
mechanism
so
that
these
folks
can
fund
their
own
trash
removal,
because
right
now
it's
free
riding
on
the
backs
of
all
the
neighborhoods
and
that's
just
wrong.
H
Good
afternoon
I'm
representing
I
own,
a
condominium
and
three
family
in
Adams
Village
in
Dorchester,
so
I'm
representing
the
other
two
owners
as
well.
I've
lived
in
the
city
for
70
years,
50
in
South
Boston
in
the
last
20
in
Adams
Village,
and
have
never
had
a
rat
problem.
Prior
to
three
years
ago.
H
The
owners
and
my
Butters
seem
to
be
very
conscientious
about
their
trash
or
I
know
we
are
but
we're
on
our
third
rat
infestation.
The
first
one
is
prior
to
covid
and
it
occurred
upon
the
construction
of
a
four
unit.
Condo
building,
just
two
houses,
two
or
three
houses
down
the
street.
So
I
was
surprised
to
hear
that
it
constructed
that
that
construction
isn't
a
contributor
to
waking
up
the
rat
so
to
speak,
but
the
they
seem
to
be
traveling
and
I
may
be
talking
about
a
correlation
as
opposed
to
a
causation.
H
The
second
infestation
was
after
covid.
It
was
early
this
spring
and
we
had
two
rats
in
the
building
in
the
cellar
and
the
city
was
responsive
when
I
called
and
I
I
was
grateful
for
that
environmental.
The
environmental
health
inspector
came
out
by
that
time.
We
had
remedied
what
the
Terminators
had
identified
as
a
possible
Port
of
Entry
to
our
basement.
So
during
the
second
rat
infestation
this
summer
we
didn't
have
rats
in
the
building.
Nevertheless,
we
were
outside
shoveling.
H
H
So
my
initial
reason
for
being
here
was
thinking
that
the
city
could
extract
some
kind
of
remuneration
for
construction
with
these
huge
Contracting
companies
to
facilitate
we
have
now.
The
expenditure
has
been
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
but,
as
I
said,
the
covid
certainly
contributed
to
this,
which
I
hadn't
considered
until
I
received
the
notice.
But
there
was
an
infestation
prior
to
covid
and
the
only
thing
that
had
changed
in
the
neighborhood
was
construction.
W
Hello,
everybody
I
am
Susan
Buda
from
the
Bay
Village
neighborhood
and
I
really
want
to
thank
you,
counselor
block
Bach
for
your
leadership
on
these
issues.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
I
want
to
thank
you.
Public
works
because
you
and
your
staff
do
so
much
and
we
do
appreciate
it.
I
can
only
imagine
the
Herculean
effort
that
you
all
have
to
put
in
to
help
us
manage
it
and
I,
especially
thank
you
for
the
zero
waste
movement,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
that.
W
So
we
have
also
seen
a
huge
uptake
in
rodent
and
trash
activity,
especially
since
the
new
capital
trash
management
contract
had
commenced
the
last
time
they
won
the
contract,
maybe
10
to
15
years
ago
we
were
in
an
uproar,
the
city
heard
and
moved
to
a
different
company.
I
think
it
was
waste
management,
but
then
Capital
One
this
last
contract
again
and
guess
what
we're
an
uproar
this
company
may
be
cheaper,
but
the
quality
is
a
mess
that
one
hour
earlier
pick
up
to.
W
6
a.m
especially
leaves
trash
on
the
street
all
night
we
even
had
a
rat
in
an
apartment
behind
us
with
a
family
with
a
three-month-old
baby.
Now
we
have
to
get
over
not
treating
private
property,
because
the
baby's
family
has
a
irresponsible
absent
landlord.
They
are
brutally
stuck
the
reds,
don't
know
they're
on
private
property.
So
why
do
we
draw
a
line
to
treat
only
public
areas
if
the
residents
want
service?
W
And
finally,
in
that
line,
is
the
Ronin
issue
really
worth
the
lower
cost
of
Waste
Management
contracts?
Capital
didn't
work
before
it's
not
going
to
work
now
and
I,
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
work
in
the
future,
but
let's
look
at
basic
biology.
The
key
to
effective
trash
management
is
eliminating
the
food
source.
W
I
turn
our
attention
back
to
food
I.
Thank
you
for
the
compost.
Pro
program,
I
use
it
I,
find
it
easy.
I
am
so
grateful
for
this
environmentally
friendly
initiative.
We
need
to
focus
and
expand
the
compost
program.
The
bins
are
small
and
yes,
I
agree.
Five
gallons
would
work
too.
Once
the
food
is
contained
and
out
of
the
general
trash,
the
rodents
can't
survive
and
I
heard
you
counselor
Bach
about
that.
We
don't
have
the
infrastructure
yet,
but
talk
to
bootstrap.
W
Let's
get
creative
pave
a
path
for
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
to
contract
for
pickup
and
compost
in
different
areas
of
the
city
like,
for
instance,
a
company
serving
Hyde
Park
should
not
also
have
to
serve
East
Boston.
The
geographical
area
is
too
large,
so
for
now,
I
encourage
expanding
and
densely
populated
districts,
maybe
also
add
better
composting
bags
as
the
ones
that
come
with
the
bins
really
leak
and
they're
a
problem,
but
generally
the
bins
when
locked
worked
really
well.
W
W
It's
almost
unreasonable
to
think
that
we
would
all
get
up
at
5
30
a.m
to
put
our
trash
out,
but
we
used
to
do
it
before
7,
A.M
and
trash
wasn't
on
the
streets
all
night,
at
least
that
volume
and
then,
if
it's
such
a
small
window
as
was
talked
about,
what
do
the
many
medical
personnel
who
work
12
plus
hour
shifts?
You
know
they'd
Miss,
every
single
trash
window?
W
All
right
I
also
want
to
commend
the
311
response.
App,
it's
wonderful,
but
it
does
take
long
and
every
report
is
not
app
addressed
timely.
You
know,
I
reported
something
at
12
p.m,
and
it
was
viewed
until
after
5
PM
and
of
course
it
was
deemed
legal,
could
BTD
get
involved
in
trash
ticket
violations?
It's
just
a
thought,
and
so
you
know
my
comment.
There
would
have
caused
me
a
fine
last
weekend.
Unbeknownst
to
me
are
tenants
who
moved
out
Sunday
morning
put
a
large
mass
of
trash
out,
probably
around
5
a.m.
W
W
We
were
thankful
that
there
was
not
food
in
the
pile
we
apologize
to
our
neighbors,
but
we
as
owners
deserved
a
ticket
and
if
it
was
a
fast
I'm
sure
somebody
reported
it,
but
if
it
was
fast
we
would
have
gotten
it
and
that
would
hurt,
but
these
violators
were
leased
tenants.
But
let
me
also
speak
to
Airbnb,
as
we
have
run
a
legal
City
registered
Airbnb
for
a
number
of
years.
Our
policy
is
really
strict.
W
Not
all
all
the
owners
are
the
same
and
yes
go
after
the
illegal
units,
and
it
will
help
a
lot.
I
just
want
to
say
it's
a
great
idea
for
a
city
trash
manager.
I
do
not
like
to
refer
to
this
position
as
a
czar,
because
we've
had
enough
about
dictators
and
those
who
want
to
be
elected
officials.
We
need
a
full
bottle,
Bill
five
to
ten
cents,
for
every
plastic
bottle
or
can,
if
it's
water
or
not
I
mean
it's
still,
a
plastic
bottle.
W
I
like
the
idea
of
charging
super
buildings,
we
want
to
stop
that
throwaway
mindset
and
larger
buildings
might
have
more
way
and
counselor
Flynn
I
appreciated
the
concern
about
Chinatown
and
just
want
to
add
that
the
education
must
be
also
culturally
appropriate
communication
and
that
rises
just
beyond
a
flyer.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
and
thank
to
all
the
counselors
that
were
here
today.
X
Hi
I'm
Sharon
Durkin
I
live
on
Anderson
Street
in
Beacon
Hill.
First
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who's
here
today
and
I
want
to
thank
our
counselors
for
listening
I.
There
are
many
ways
to
spend
our
Tuesday
morning,
but
we're
here,
and
it
means
a
lot
that
so
many
people
who
have
been
involved
in
the
community
for
decades
or
here-
and
this
is
the
issue
that
they
care
about,
and
this
is
the
issue
they
want
to
amplify.
X
I
want
to
thank
these
residents
for
wanting
our
city
to
be
a
clean,
safe
space
and
a
place
that
you
know,
I
think
about
accessibility
as
one
of
the
issues
with
with
trash
and
when
we
put
stuff
out
at
night
it
makes
it
very
inaccessible
for
our
residents
to
get
around
the
city,
particularly
on
Beacon,
Hill
I.
Think
about
this
as
an
opportunity
to
be
part
of
our
civic
education.
X
When
I
moved
to
Beacon
Hill
over
eight
years
ago,
I
remember,
learning
having
a
neighbor
knock
on
my
door
and
tell
me
what
the
deal
was
with
trash
and
we
all
need
that
neighbor.
But
we
also
all
need
to
be
that
neighbor.
So
we're
all
here
and
we're
all
a
part
of
that
process.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
and
I
keep
thinking
about
bait
bait
versus
the
wrap
Buffet
on
Beacon
Hill.
X
Why
would
people
choose
to
or
why
would
our
rats
choose
to
take
bait
when
they're,
given
two
opportunities
to
feed
endlessly
overnight,
so
just
want
to
amplify
those
issues,
some
issues
that
have
been
sort
of
I.
My
friend
is
on
the
live
stream
and
she
told
me
to
mention
that
she
thinks
trash
trackers
on
trucks
would
be
a
great
idea.
X
A
Thank
you,
Sharon
I,
think
with
that.
That
concludes
all
of
our
public
testimony.
Yeah,
great
and
I
I
just
really
want
to
thank
our
city
folks
for
staying
for
the
whole
time.
Obviously,
it's
been
a
three
hour
hearing
and
we
really
appreciate
you
guys
staying
to
hear
the
public
speak
as
well
and
to
everyone
in
the
public
who
did
come
and
spend
your
whole
Tuesday
morning
with
us.
A
D
A
And
and
I
would
just
say
on
the
on
the
back
end
infrastructure
on
composting
to
subuta's
point.
That's
actually
part
of
the
reason
why
we
put
arpa
dollars
into
that
is
because
arpa
dollars
have
a
strict
spending
deadline,
so
we're
trying
to
kind
of
accelerate
the
creation
of
that
so
that
we
can
ramp
up
the
composting
and
pile
it
as
quickly
as
possible.
A
But
just
you
know,
I
think
really
glad
to
have
John
here
from
ISD
and
John
here
from
from
code
enforcement
and
yeah
I
think
the
way
that
I
think
about
it
is
you
know
when,
when
people
are
behaving
badly,
we
send
out
code
enforcement
when
the
rats
are
behaving
badly,
we
send
out
an
ISD
Environmental
Services,
but
it
really
is
Dennis's
shop.
It's
the
it's!
D
D
A
Yeah
and
so
I
mean
I.
Think
again,
when
you
talk
about
like
what's
Upstream
just
for
folks
who
are
here,
that's
part
of
why
we
all
have
to
push
the
people
who
create
receptacles
to
actually
like
move
towards
just
much
more
like
easily
recyclable
materials
like
in
the
and
in
the
long
run
in
this
country.
It's
probably
going
to
involve
making
companies
much
more
responsible
for
the
disposition
of
the
materials
that
they
put
out
into
the
world.
A
So
you
know
I,
think
that's
that's
a
piece
of
of
where
it's
really
important
to
have
citizen
advocacy,
because
I
think
we're
we're
more
likely
to
get
there
by
everybody
kind
of
owning
what
they're
producing
than
everybody
individually
owning
what
they're
using
if
that
makes
sense.
So,
but
but
we've
got
a
fire
on
all
cylinders
still
on
it.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
again
to
the
public
and
and
especially
to
my
colleague
council
president
Flynn
president
Flynn,
since
you're
still
here.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
important
work
that
you've
done
for
many
years
on.
Neighborhood
quality
of
life
issues
you've
been
excellent,
providing
exceptional
leadership
on
these
issues,
along
with
the
dedicated
team
from
mayaboo's
office
that
are
here
with
us
as
well,
so
I
want
to
acknowledge
these
professionals,
but
also
thanking
the
residents
for
their
commitment
to
the
city
to
their
neighborhood.
But
what's
also
important
is,
is
that
you
hear
you're
engaged
you're,
letting
your
city
councils
know
exactly
what's
important
to
you.
G
I
know
there
are
people
that
are
watching
and
listening
on
on
live
stream
or
on
cable
television,
but
it's
it's
important
for
you
to
contact
your
atlawed
city
councilors
or
your
District
City
councils.
Both
I
should
say,
and
let
them
know
that,
although
this
is
not
a
sexy
issue,
this
is
a
real
important
issue.
It
impacts
almost
everybody
across
the
city.
It's
about
quality
life
issues,
it's
about
public,
safe,
Public,
Safety
too,
and
public
health,
but
during
this
budget
season
your
voice
is
important.