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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on August 16, 2017
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Docket #1064- Ordinance providing safe and effective disposal of sharps.
A
Good
morning
everybody,
my
name
is
city
councilor,
Lodge,
Michael,
Flaherty,
chair
of
the
government,
Operations
Committee,
and
we
are
here
today
to
discuss
docket
1:06
for
an
ordinance
to
provide
the
safe
disposal
of
straps.
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
my
colleague,
city,
councilor,
niece
or
sabe
Jorge
to
my
left,
which
referred
to
the
committee
back
in
August
a
second.
We
are
both
joined
by
City
Council
Ernie,
sir
savvy
in
City
Council
Frank
Baker.
A
This
ordinance
would
require
all
retailers
and
distributors
of
shops
for
home
use
to
collect
and
properly
dispose
of
used
shops
at
no
additional
cost
to
the
consumer.
This
ordinance
would
provide
consumers
with
more
convenient
ways
to
return
and
ensure
the
safe
and
environmentally
sound
disposal
of
home
generated
charts.
Any
retailer
found
in
violation
of
any
provision
or
who
fails
to
comply
with
any
of
its
requirements
shall
be
punished
by
a
fine
of
$300
and
now
turn
this
discussion
over
to
my
colleague
in
lead
sponsor
this
time
city
councillor.
Any
society
prefer
other
introductory
comments.
Thank.
B
You
councillor
Flaherty
and
thank
you
all
for
being
in
attendance
today.
Last
April,
councillor,
Baker,
council,
McCarthy
and
I
held
a
hearing
regarding
sharps
disposal
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
we
discovered
over
the
course
of
one
year
that
we
found
the
city
had
collected
20,000
needles
from
our
parks,
our
alleyways,
our
playgrounds
in
our
libraries,
the
city
through
the
mobile
sharps
team,
is
doing
the
best
that
they
can
responding
to
311
every
corner
of
the
city.
B
Bphc
outreach
workers,
police,
fire
and
EMS
are
all
spending
time
picking
up
needles,
and
the
fact
remains
that
we
still
need
help.
This
ordinance
is
simply
a
step
in
the
right
direction
to
really
respond
to
the
symptoms
of
the
crazy
that
we're
facing
in
the
city.
We
have
a
crisis,
no
doubt
when
it
comes
to
really
working
with
those
and
supporting
those
that
are
in
active
addiction.
We
have
a
problem
because
of
that
we've
got
needles
across
our
city.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
community
organizations
that
have
written
letters
and
support.
B
I
appreciate
all
of
you
who
have
come
forward
to
date
with
some
concerns
and
some
challenges
that
you
see
in
the
ordinance
as
it's
currently
been
presented
and
I,
look
forward
to
productive
and
thoughtful
conversation
through
today's
hearing
process
and
in
the
coming
months
through
making
sure
that
this
ordinance
best
reflects
the
needs
of
the
city
and
also
supports
the
businesses
in
our
city.
That
would
have
some
requirements
as
this
ordinance
moves
forward.
So
I
look
forward
to
today's
hearing
and
the
hearings
going
forward.
Thank
You,
council
flighted.
Thank.
C
You
mr.
chair
and
I
just
want
to
thank
Council
George
for
her
for
her
leadership
here
in
this
in
this
area.
You
know
this
is
just
one
part
of
a
larger
problem
and
hopefully
we
can.
Hopefully
we
can.
You
know,
figure
out
what
the
resources
are
and
figure
out
how
we
how
we
can
help
this
problem.
Thank
you.
C
A
A
I
will
review
the
tape
of
the
hearing
upon
my
return,
sincerely
Tim
McCarthy
city
council
from
district
5
and
with
that
we're
going
to
get
right
into
our
first
panel
I
see
that
we're
joined
today
by
buddy
Christopher,
the
inspection
head
of
inspectional
services,
Sara
Mackin,
director
of
a
hope
and
mobile
rap
team
and
Brendon
little
office
of
recovery
services.
I
can
just
ask
them
if
you
could
take
a
seat
over
here
if
it's
appropriate
with
one
chair
short
Christine.
If
I
could
ask
you
for
one
additional
chair,
perfect.
D
First,
thank
you
for
today,
and
you
know
we
want
you
very
clear
that
you
know
mayor
wall
very
much
in
support
of
trying
to
deal
with
this
issue.
It
is
a
big
issue
with
real
is
D
does.
Is
it
every
drugstore
does
visit
every
drugstore
in
the
city,
I
have
actually
brought
a
list
of
the
drugstores
that
we
routinely
go
to.
Our
current
inspections
are
based
on
annual
visit
in
our
purpose
at
that
time
is
to
calibrate
all
the
scales
that
are
better
than
the
pharmaceutical
part
of
all
these
stores.
D
So
you
know,
depending
upon
what
the
actual
outcome
of
the
hearing
is,
and
the
final
formulation
of
the
ordinance
will
like
to
discuss
more
of
the
details
of
exactly
what
it
is
would
be
looking
for
and
how
they
would
develop
a
monitoring
system
for
that
for
the
pharmacy
to
report.
You
know
the
number
of
needles
that
are
being
sold
as
opposed
to
the
number
of
needles
that
are
coming
in,
but
I
do
want
to
come
in
the
shops
team,
they're
an
active
partner
in
highest
ease
adventures
throughout
the
city,
and
they
do
a
tremendous
job.
E
Morning,
Johnson's,
Baker
clarity
and
asaba
George
I
do
have
a
statement.
I
don't
know
if
you'd
like
me
to
read
it
now.
We
look
great
on
behalf
of
the
Public
Health
Commission.
My
name
is
Sara
Mackin
I'm,
the
director
of
a
hope
which
stands
for
access,
harm
reduction,
overdose
prevention
and
education.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
at
the
hearing.
The
Commission
runs
one
of
the
busiest
and
longest
standing
needle
exchange
programs
in
the
state.
E
We
help
prevent
transmission
of
HIV
hepatitis
C
by
compliant
by
supplying
clean
needles
and
ensuring
proper
disposal
of
use
needles.
We
also
help
to
connect
drug
users
to
treatment
when
they're
ready
and
provide
linkages
to
medical,
behavioral,
health
and
social
services.
We
collect
more
needles
than
we
give
out
at
the
needle
exchange
and
have
conversations
with
our
clients.
We
also
call
them
participants
to
help
them
understand
the
importance
of
safe
needle
disposal.
We
were
established
in
1993
and
we
are
among
the
first
needle
exchanges
in
the
state.
E
The
program
is
rooted
in
a
harm-reduction
philosophy
and
we
offer
a
wide
range
of
services,
referrals
and
programming
to
people
who
use
drugs
without
the
precondition
of
abstinence.
We
provide
services
to
approximately
6,000
individuals
every
year
through
our
drop-in
mobile
sites
and
outreach
routes
and
through
overdose
prevention
and
education
efforts.
Throughout
the
city
last
year
we
distributed
over
13,000
doses
of
narcan
and
received
1,100
reversal
reports
from
our
clients,
meaning
that
over
a
thousand
times,
one
of
our
participants
used
an
arcane
kit
that
we
gave
them
to
save
a
life.
E
We
have
more
than
of
115
percent,
syringe
return
rate
thanks
to
vos,
3-1-1,
outreach
routes,
da
hope,
sharp
steam,
kiosks
and
other
community
partners
who
also
conduct
regular
sweeps
in
high-traffic
areas
where
public
injection
often
takes
place
last
year.
A
hope
distributed
about
25,
stops
sorry
250,000
syringes
and
safely
disposed
of
over
three
hundred
and
ten
thousand
used
syringes
through
out
needle
returned
to
the
drop-in
center
and
through
the
a
hope,
sharps
team.
At
the
program,
we
have
a
one
for
one
plus
ten
policy.
E
If
clients
do
not
have
used
syringes
to
exchange,
they
can
get
up
to
ten
clean
syringes,
and
after
that
it
is
a
one-to-one
exchange.
We
do
not
have
a
one-to-one
policy
for
many
reasons.
A
offe
is
open.
Five
days
a
week,
opening
at
7
a.m.
and
closing
at
3
p.m.
we
encourage
participants
to
bring
back
syringes
every
time
they
access
services
and
also
equip
them
personal,
biohazard
containers
that
can
be
returned
to
us
at
the
needle
exchange,
or
they
can
also
drop
off
at
the
syringe
kiosks
throughout
the
city.
E
Many
participants
use
the
kiosks
to
drop
off
syringes
or
discard
of
them
each
night
before
entering
the
area,
shelters
and
therefore
do
not
have
any
to
exchange.
In
the
morning.
Restricting
access
to
clean
syringes
has
been
shown
to
drive
up
HIV
and
hepatitis
C
rates
and
drug
using
populations
which
is
antithetical
to
our
mission
as
an
HIV
prevention
program,
the
safe
disposal
of
needles,
syringes
and
sharps
is
necessary
to
protect
residents,
annotation
and
municipal
workers,
first
responders,
drug
users
and
the
environment.
E
The
Commission
has
a
comprehensive
system
for
addressing
neelix
needle
disposal
in
the
city
city
manage
neo
kiosks
are
located
in
four
areas:
35
northampton
street
clifford
park,
Dimmick
streets,
Neponset
avenue
health
center
parking
lot.
All
of
these
are
outdoor
locations,
accessible,
24/7,
the
sharp
steam
NPCs
kiosks
manually
every
single
week.
These
locations
are
promoted
on
our
website
and
through
promotional
materials
that
are
widely
distributed
to
the
community
as
well
as
advertised
on
social
media.
E
The
Commission,
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission,
has
a
neighborhood
engagement
team
that
consists
of
four
full-time
employees
who
engage
in
street
outreach
overdose
prevention,
education
and
who
also
connect
individuals
to
recovery
services
and
the
shelter
in
the
New
Market
Square
area.
The
team
works
seven
days
a
week
from
8
a.m.
and
4
p.m.
including
holidays
in
during
inclement
weather.
The
outreach
workers
conduct
routine
sweeps
to
pick
up
syringes
in
the
area
doing
outreach
as
well.
We
lost
3
1
1
for
recovery
services
in
the
fall
of
2016.
E
The
city
of
Boston's
301
constituent
hotline
can
now
be
accessed
by
Boston
residents
as
confident
confidential,
24/7
referral
center
for
addiction,
treatment
and
recovery
services.
Anyone
with
a
question
about
substance
use
treatment.
Our
recovery
support
services
can
call
3-1-1
use
the
boss
through
one
app
or
the
website,
to
be
connected
in
triage
to
the
past
hotline
immediately
to
speak
to
addiction.
Specialists
3-1-1
also
serves
as
a
way
for
people
to
alert
our
a
hope,
sharps
team
that
they
have
found
discarded
syringes
in
the
city.
E
The
mobile
sharps
team
currently
consists
of
two
full-time
employees
working
7
days
a
week,
7
a.m.
to
7
p.m.
responding
to
311
301
calls
and
requests
sharps
team
also
conducts
proactive
sweeps
and
homeless
encampments
in
areas
with
high
volume.
Public
injection
efforts
are
continuously
monitored
and
adjusted
to
response
onto
target
areas
of
particular
need.
The
Sharps
team
prioritizes
needle
pickup
in
parks
and
school
yards
and
other
places
that
families
frequent
a
hope,
staff.
The
teen
Lee
conduct
outreach
in
the
Boston
neighborhoods
and
collect
improperly
discarded
syringes
during
those
outreach
routes
as
well.
E
We
have
received
over
4500
3-1-1
requests
since
the
beginning
of
the
Sharps
program
in
2015,
and
over
25,000
syringes
have
been
collected
from
public
spaces
in
collaboration
with
the
boss.
Three
one
one
was
glass
three
one
one
and
the
mayor's
I'm
sorry
class,
three
one
in
City
Hall.
The
team
also
recovers
more
than
two
thousand
syringes
each
week
from
the
city
managed
kiosks
located
around
Boston
service
has
received
positive
feedback
from
constituents
across
the
city
and
we
also
track
pickup
locations
in
order
to
increase
our
understanding
of
patterns
of
use
it
for
targeting
outreach
efforts.
E
To
do
proactive
suits
of
these
hard-hit
areas.
The
other
two
full-time
employees
will
continue
to
work
around
the
city
and
respond
to
3
1
1
calls.
Finally,
needle
exchange
is
also
a
part
of
a
broader
prevention
strategy,
I
like
to
highlight
the
power
of
prevention
by
sort
of
just
naming
one
or
two
statistics
that
I
think
are
a
little
bit
striking
in
Massachusetts
HIV
infections
among
people
who
inject
drugs
have
decreased
by
over
80%
in
the
last
decade.
E
This
decrease
in
HIV
prevalence
is
largely
attributed
to
syringe
access
laws
in
harm
reduction
programming
throughout
the
state.
This
is
a
remarkable
accomplishment
considering
that,
just
20
years
ago,
HIV
I'm
sorry
injection
drug
use
was
one
of
the
leading
causes
of
HIV
transmission,
and
currently
there
are
over
40
needle
exchanges
in
the
state
and
with
more
communities
poised
to
implement
new,
syringe
access
programs.
The
reduction
in
HIV
rates
among
people
who
inject
drugs
would
not
have
been
possible
without
the
2006
law
decriminalizing
possession
of
syringes.
E
This
law
also
allows
for
the
sale
syringes
over-the-counter
at
pharmacy
statewide
without
a
prescription.
However,
virtually
none
of
these
pharmacies
have
mechanisms
for
safe
return
and
disposal.
We
realize
that
safe
disposal
of
sharps
in
the
City
of
Boston
is
an
enormous
undertaking.
We
are
thankful
for
our
party
partners
across
the
city
departments
and
within
communities,
and
we
welcome
assistance
in
continuing
to
ensure
the
safe
disposal
of
sharps
throughout
the
city.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
testimony.
Today's
hearing,
Thank.
F
You
thank
you
comforted
sabe,
George
clarity
and
Baker.
My
name
is
Brendan
little
I'm
the
policy
director
for
the
mayor's
office
recovery
services,
we're
coordinating
office
that
coordinates
recovery
services
across
the
city,
both
within
the
recovery
services
Bureau
at
the
Boston
Public,
Health,
Commission
and
across
all
city
departments.
We
also
work
closely
with
neighborhood
providers
with
the
state
and
public
safety
partners
within
the
city,
so
I'm
just
here
to
support
this
today
and
I'm
grateful
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
A
A
B
E
E
So
we
have
our
drop-in
center
at
on
Albany
Street,
so
they
can
access
clean
syringes
there
from
7:00
a.m.
until
3:00
p.m.
Monday
through
Friday,
there's
also
a
part
time
needle
access
or
some
injections
program
in
sort
of
near
Egleston
square
or
to
make
a
plane
that's
run
by
AIDS,
Action
Committee
and
people
can
also
buy
syringes
with
with
ID
and
without
a
prescription,
over-the-counter
to
any
CVS
and
Walgreens
in
that
area.
In
Boston
we
have
a
pretty
high
concentration
of
pharmacies
that
do
that
and.
B
E
Primarily
the
people
that
return
syringes
in
our
program,
they're,
usually
community
partners
that
are
picking
them
up
in
sort
of
high
frequented
areas,
but
mostly
drug
users,
are
bringing
them
in
to
return
in
order
to
get
clean
syringes
at
the
kiosk,
because
I
can
tell
you
is
it's
used
citywide
right?
So
there
is
an
ordinance
or
a
law
passed
that
does
not
allow
for
people
to
get
rid
of
sharps
in
this
trash
anymore
and
without
sort
of
a
way
for
people
to
kind
of
dispose
of
that
properly.
E
People
will
kind
of
at
a
loss,
and
so
I
get
several
calls
each
week
for
everything
from
I'm
diabetic
and
I.
Don't
know
where
to
put
my
syringes
or
my
cat
is
high,
Petach
and
I.
Don't
know
where
to
put
those
ridges
or
fertility
drugs.
Cancer,
drugs,
hepatitis,
C,
other
treatments
that
include
injections,
and
we
typically
steer
those
people
towards
kiosks.
But
we
do
know
that
they're
also
used
by
drug
users
right.
B
B
D
As
it
obviously
to
all,
the
work
is
because
there
is
no
mechanism
currently
to
deal
with
that
as
an
isolated.
You
know
trash
source
and
you
know
how
to
contain
it
even
within
the
truck.
So
it
is
something
that
we
are
very
concerned
about,
and
we,
you
know,
we
appeal
to
the
public
to
deal
with
things
properly,
as
opposed
to
just
using
in
the
general
trash
sources
and.
B
E
Not
recently
no
I've
been
stuck,
but
that
was
many
years
ago.
We
have
protocols
in
place
in
case
that
happened,
so
we
do
make
all
precautions
necessary
in
order
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
happen,
including
supplying
Kleenex
at
like
a
pickup
equipment,
needle
stick
resistant
gloves
in
the
kinds
of
retrieving
materials
and
the
containers
that
would
start.
You
know
prevent
people
from
getting
stuck.
So
we're
very,
very
aware
that
that's
a
risk
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
our
people,
that's
paramount
for
anything
else.
It's.
D
B
I
understand
and
not
to
speak
for
them,
but
some
of
the
Public
Works
folks,
when
emptying
out
some
of
the
trash
receptacles
across
the
city,
have
changed
their
practice
of
how
they're
disposing
of
that
garbage
bag.
You
know
you
imagine,
you're,
taking
a
garbage
bag
out
of
the
trash
can
you're
no
longer
slinging
it
across
your
shoulder.
You
are
dragging
it
to
avoid
sort
of
that.
We're.
D
D
A
D
C
D
D
Hourly
discussion
on
it
is
if
the
pharmacies
should
become
part
of
a
recording
statistic
that
says
how
many
needles
that
they're
selling,
how
many
there
you
know
receiving
in
and
that's
something
that
we
would
then
be
able
to
record.
And
then
you
know,
as
defined
in
the
ordinance.
There
is,
if
there's
a
penalty
in
that,
if
they're
not
adhering
to
it
on
a
one-to-one
basis.
So.
C
They
would
need
to
come
up
with
a
report
out
system
that
you
guys
with
over
would
oversee
exactly
okay.
Thank
you,
I'm
Brendan.
This
may
not
be
for
you,
but
we
are.
We
like
councillor.
George
was
talking
about
a
we
kind
of
cross-training,
our
Parks
Department
and
our
Public
Works
Department
OPA.
Is
there
any
sort
of
training
available
for
those
people
and
again
this
may
be
not
for
you,
but
you
have
any
any
insight
into
that.
Like
I
know,.
E
Done
ad-hoc
trainings
throughout
the
city
for
DPW
for
Parks
and
Rec,
and
anyone
else
that
calls
us.
We
don't
really
have
the
capacity
to
provide
training
to
everybody
that
calls
a
splitter
for
what
we
can't
handle.
We
usually
refer
back
to
the
infectious
disease
Bureau
at
at
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission,
who
have
materials
and
trainings.
For
that
purpose.
We
try
to
provide
as
much
support
as
possible,
especially
for
maintenance
entities.
G
E
G
C
A
You
very
much
they
will
complete,
also
appreciate
fighting
Sara
and
Brendan
your
time
and
attention
in
qualifying
panel
to
which
is
Patrick
Huntington
from
the
Massachusetts
Bay
associates,
representing
chain
retailers,
Association,
Thank,
You,
commissioner,
and
also
Ryan
canny,
Retailers
Association
of
mehness
who's.
Also,
here
representing
CVS
and
Walgreens,
welcome
to
both
the
blue,
bigoted
state,
your
name
and
affiliation
for
the
record.
You
have
the
pool
to
address
this
issue
and
then
we'll
have
some
questions.
90-Pound.
H
Thank
you
good
morning,
mr.
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Patrick
Huntington
and
I
represent
the
Massachusetts
chain.
Pharmacy
Council,
our
members,
along
with
other
national
chain
drugstores,
operates
65
pharmacies
in
the
city
of
Boston.
Most
of
these
are
traditional
retail
pharmacies,
while
several
others
are
located
within
grocery
stores
such
as
stop
and
shop
and
star
markets.
We
would
like
to
be
recorded
in
opposition
to
the
current
draft
of
this
ordinance,
which
would
require
every
pharmacy
in
the
city
of
Boston
to
operate
a
needle
take-back
program.
H
We
believe
retail
pharmacies
and
grocery
stores
are
not
the
ideal
location
or
setting
for
the
collection
of
this
type
of
hazardous
material.
We
concern
that
it
has
a
potential
to
increase
the
general
public's
exposure
to
these
dangerous
items.
We
are
concerned
that
the
casual
handling
of
needles
by
pharmacy
customers
could
result
in
potential
injury
to
other
customers
for
pharmacy
workers.
The
regulations
require
home
generated
shops
to
be
transported
by
individuals
in
heavy
puncture-proof
plastic
containers.
H
Unfortunately,
we
know
from
experiences
and
other
jurisdictions
that
consume
is
routinely
enter
our
stores
with
the
needles
improperly
stored
and
exposed
to
the
environment.
One
of
our
member
companies
reports
that
their
employees
suffer
a
needle
stick
injury
on
the
average
of
once
a
month,
while
administering
the
take-back
programs
in
the
city
of
San
Francisco.
H
These
accidents
occur
because
of
the
improper
disposal
of
the
shops
by
the
customers
and
despite
the
use
of
employee
safety,
training
programs,
pharmacys
and
Massachusetts
are
now
required
to
provide
each
consumer
with
the
educational
materials
regarding
the
prophetÃs
book
disposal
of
shops
and
the
location,
nearby
collection
facilities.
We
also
sell
prepaid
mail
back
containers
for
the
direct
shipment
to
solid
waste
disposal
facilities.
H
We
would
suggest
that
the
cost
to
implement
sixty
five
new
needle
take-back
programs
in
the
City
of
Boston
may
not
be
the
most
efficient
allocation
of
our
resources,
as
we
seek
to
partner
with
the
city
of
Boston
to
help
address
this
issue.
We
believe
that
our
involvement
should
be
part
of
a
partnership
not
only
with
the
city
but
with
the
needle
manufacturers.
H
Pharmacy
sell
needles
and
shops
across
the
state,
but
a
large
portion
also
come
from
internet
sales
and
from
mail-order
pharmacies
that
are
located
out
of
state.
Last
year,
the
state
enacted
a
product
stewardship
program
for
the
collection
of
unused
prescription
drugs.
The
legislature
determined
that
the
drug
take-back
program
should
be
designed
and
managed
by
the
drug
manufacturers
in
consultation
with
the
Department
of
Public
Health.
We
believe
a
successful
needle
stewardship
program
should
also
begin
with
the
involvement
of
the
needle
manufacturers,
with
retail
pharmacies
participating
as
part
of
that
overall
solution.
H
I've
attached
a
summary
of
that
stewardship
program
with
my
testimony
today,
I
would
also
like
to
note
that
pharmacies
in
Massachusetts
are
closely
regulated
by
the
Board
of
Pharmacy
I
would
urge
the
council
to
reach
out
to
the
board
and
request
their
input
on
this
issue
and
seek
their
guidance
on
how
they
think
it
might
impact
pharmacy
operations.
We
recognize
that
this
ordinance
is
a
proactive
step
to
implement
new
solutions
to
address
the
seek
to
address
a
significant
public
health
crisis.
H
We
would
like
to
partner
with
the
city
on
solutions
that
best
utilize
our
resources,
instead
of
being
forced
into
a
one-size-fits-all
solution
that
may
not
deliver
the
on-the-ground
results
that
are
intended
needy.
So,
for
these
reasons
we
oppose
this
or
as
currently
drafted,
but
look
forward
to
working
with
the
committee
as
you
continue
to
get
discussions
on
this
issue.
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,.
H
A
I
Danny
welcome
Ryan
Thank
You,
chairman
Flaherty,
councilor,
savvy
George
and
councillor
Baker.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
testify
you
before
you
today
on
this
important
matter.
The
retailer's
of
the
record.
My
name
is
Ryan.
Crane
I
am
a
general
Collins
with
the
retailer's
Association
of
Massachusetts.
We
are
a
trade
association
of
4,000
retail
members
from
the
small
mom-and-pop
shops
all
the
way
up
to
the
large
chains.
For
this
matter.
We
do
have
independent
pharmacies
as
our
members,
but
we
also
have
the
large
chains,
including
Walgreens
CVS,
Rite
Aid
operating
in
the
city
of
Boston.
I
That
would
be
directly
impacted
by
this.
This
proposed
ordinance
put
quite
frankly,
I
mean
the
shops
are:
has
this
medical
waste
there
stringently
regulated
by
the
DPH
and
retail
retail
pharmacies,
are
not
waste
disposal
sites
and
on
the
business
of
waste
disposal,
and
because
of
that,
our
association
generally
opposes
any
one-size-fits-all
type
of
approach
to
imposing
waste
management
or
responsibilities
on
the
retailer.
We
are,
however,
committed
to
continue
working
with
the
council,
with
manufacturers
and
with
stakeholders
to
further
promote
the
educational
efforts
for
proper
recycling
and
disposal.
I
But
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background,
most
of
our
efforts
at
the
retail
Association
is
at
the
statewide
level
before
the
legislature
and
at
that
forum,
we've
seen
mandatory,
take
back
proposals
from
anything
from
tires.
Mercury
added,
thermostats,
lamps,
electronics,
batteries
and
now
the
Sharps
piece
and
of
all
the
products
that
are
that
there's
proposals
to
have
our
stores
take
back
the
most
hazardous
and
at
the
top
of
that
list,
would
probably
be
discharged.
I
It
overall
hazard
not
only
to
the
employees
working
in
the
store,
but
also
customers
in
the
store
and
around
the
store.
Pharmacies
come
in
all
shapes
and
sizes,
they're
located
mostly
on
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
mostly
located
in
our
Main
streets
and
in
our
downtown
shopping
districts.
There's
going
to
be
a
requirement
that
these
folks
will
not
requirement.
I
Another
concern
is
the
retail
space
every
square
footage,
whether
a
small
small
guy
that
doesn't
have
the
rooms
even
fit
a
kiosk
or
a
large
guy?
Who
has
a
formula
from
your
from
your
corporate
parents?
That
tells
you
what
you
need
to
have
and
where
there
is
a
concern
that
you're
now
going
to
have
to
give
up
that
valuable
retail
space
to
go
ahead
and
put
in
one
of
these
kiosks.
Finally,
there's
a
lack
of
training
on
our
members.
I
The
average
retail
employee
is
not
trained
for
this,
while
the
pharmacist
may
be
the
18
19
20
year-old
cashier
does
not
know
how
to
deal
with
this,
and
if
the
pharmacist
isn't
there
and
there's
an
issue,
what
happens
and
that's
one
of
the
main
concerns
that
we
heard
from
our
members
and
finally
I'd
be
remiss
not
to
discuss
online
competition.
This
ordinance
would
impose
a
requirement
to
take
this
back
and
the
cost
back
compliance
on
our
retail
members
that
are
located
in
city
of
Boston.
I
Yet
due
to
your
jurisdictional
limitations,
you
cannot
reach
out
to
that
online
retailer
who
can
sell
instance
into
the
city
of
Boston.
Yet
those
not
only
is
that
created
the
competitive
City
engines
for
our
members
who
are
operating
here
and
after
comply
at
that
cost,
but
the
needles
that
are
introduced
to
the
stream
and
video
Boston
are
then
going
to
have
to
be
taken
packed
by
our
members
with
no
compensation
from
their
competitors.
So
with
that,
you
know
what
more
than
happening
any
questions
I
have
written
testimony
for
you
as
well
end
up
that.
A
H
H
H
H
G
B
B
So
the
opportunity
now
that
pharmacies
are
providing
their
customers,
their
consumers,
who
are
purchasing
needles,
whether
through
prescription
or
regular
retail,
purchase
without
prescription.
The
only
way
to
return
needles,
sharps
is
through
that
prepaid,
option
or
they'd
have
to
find
one
of
our
kiosks.
H
Walgreens
has
voluntarily,
on
their
own,
agreed
to
set
up
a
drug
take-back
program
across
the
country
that
may
have
eleven
take
back
programs
in
Massachusetts,
and
it's
similar
to
this.
They
found
them
to
be
very
problematic
because
people
come
in
and
they
don't,
they
don't
hit
the
kiosk.
The
drugs
go
all
over
the
floor.
H
What
they're
finding
now
is
that
nursing
homes
and
now
using
so
the
walgreens
kiosk
as
via
dumping
ground,
as
opposed
to
using
the
services
that
they
should
they're
bringing
bags
to
Walgreens,
so
they
have
found
bags
of
drugs
just
on
the
side
of
the
of
the
kiosks
they
find
the
drugs
on
the
floor.
There
was
one
report
that
somebody
came
drop
off
the
drugs.
The
pharmacy
was
closed,
so
they
just
left
them
at
the
front
door.
H
So
it
just
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
that
we
reassume
that
we're
going
to
have
those
same
types
of
problems
when
we
go
to
a
shop
system,
it's
not
perfect,
but
in
the
perfect
world.
None
of
that
would
happen,
but
it's
not
a
perfect
world
and
you
know
we're
going
to
run
into
those
things
just
like
they
said
in
San
Francisco
via
train
to
handle
these
traps,
but
it
happens,
they
can
they
get
inside
line.
Can.
B
You
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
training
staff
receives,
both
from
the
pharmacy
end
in
your
businesses
that
you
represent
in
the
frontline
staff,
so
the
cashiers
the
shelves
stalkers,
what
training
they
receive
when
it
comes
to
handling
medical
materials
or
waste
materials
and
they're
in
the
stores.
I
think.
H
And
I'll
have
to
check,
but
I
think
the
only
waste
material
like,
though,
is
if
they
get
a
vaccination
to
somebody,
so
they
obviously
have
the
gloves
they
give
the
vaccinations
that
goes
right
into
a
collection
box.
That's
behind
a
counter
that
isn't
you
know
it's
not
available
to
the
public
so
and
then,
and
then
we
have
a
waste
management
system
that
comes
in.
B
In
your
testimony,
you
had
referenced
the
need
to
train
staff
because
you
in
your
store
staff,
is
not
currently
trained
and
I
would
suggest
that
we
are
in
a
different
time
in
place
and
that
any
retail
staff
in
a
pharmacy
setting
should
be
trained
to
handle
a
sharp
or
take
back
drugs.
Whether
or
not
they're
able
to
take
back
drugs
that
encounter
that
conversation
happens,
I'm
sure
pretty
regularly
in
a
pharmacy
setting,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
you're
at
front
selling,
candy
bars
or
you're
in
the
back
selling
or
delivering
prescriptions
and.
H
I
think
that's
the
difference
of
a
retail
pharmacy
quit
with
two
things
in
one.
You
know
with
the
pharmacies
in
the
back
in
the
retail,
which
is
growing
larger
every
year
is
the
front.
So
it's
probably
you
know,
maybe
35
percent
pharmacy
and
65
percent
retail,
so
that
person
up
front
even
though
she
works
for
pharmacy.
She
may
have
nothing
to
do
with
that
back
end.
So,
if
we're
bringing
shops
in
the
into
the
store,
not
only
do
we
have
to
train
our
pharmacy
folks,
but
we
have
to
train
all
those
we
will.
H
I
I
B
H
H
A
You
thank
you
for
to
panel
to
adjust
also
noted
that
the
atria
self
had
sent
the
letter
and
of
opposition
s.
Has
a
Massachusetts
independent,
pharmacist
Association,
along
with
another
level
of
opposition
from
the
Massachusetts
chain,
pharmacy
council.
So
just
for
the
record,
but
appreciate
your
time
and
tensions
go
Patrick
and
Ryan
and
we're
going
to
slide
to
panel
3,
which
would
be
community
members.
A
Steven
Fox,
president
of
the
South,
inform
and
sue
Sullivan
of
the
New
Market
Square
business
association
of
both
Steven
and
sue
can
come
up
here
and
then,
after
this
panel
will
transition
into
public
testimony.
We
have
received
letters
of
support
from
a
number
of
folks
from
the
community
moraine.
We
love
presidents
of
Roxbury
path
forward,
Neighborhood
Association,
this
Safari
F.
A
Chief
medical
officer,
Boston
healthcare,
homeless,
Jessi
data,
along
with
the
Claremont
Neighborhood
Association,
along
with
March
free
path
forward,
along
with
residents
and
Balto,
along
with
a
resident
in
candidate
for
district,
seven
Collison
Regas,
and
there
will
be
others
I'm
sure
us
welcome
to
both
Stephen
and
sue
and
whoever
feels
like
taking
the
floor.
First
welcome
and
state
your
name
and
affiliation
for
the
record
good.
J
Morning
and
thank
you
thank
you
for
having
us
I'm,
Steve,
Fox,
I
chair
the
South
End
forum.
The
South
End
forum
is
an
umbrella
organization
representing
the
17
neighborhood
associations
of
the
South
End,
and
for
those
that
are
not
familiar.
I
I
know
that
all
of
the
councillors
are
aware,
but
but
the
South
End
is
probably
ground
zero
for
the
opioid
crisis
in
the
city,
so
this
particular
ordinance
is
of
great
interest
to
us,
probably
more
than
any
other
neighborhood
in
the
city.
J
The
South
End
has
seen
the
impact
of
this
opioid
crisis
and
the
influx
of
sharps
in
our
parks
in
our
playgrounds
on
our
front
Stoops
in
our
front
gardens,
and
we
have
recognized
for
a
long
time
that
there
is
a
crying
need
within
our
neighborhood
for
additional
disposal
sites.
For
example,
our
Public
Library,
the
South
End
Public
Library,
which
is
populate,
which
is
frequented
by
lots
and
lots
of
children
with
the
very
active
children's
program,
has
two
sharps
disposals
within
the
public
library
that
can't
that
is
managed
directly
by
the
librarians.
J
They
are
not
medical
personnel,
but
they
have
found
that
there
is
a
crying
need
for
this
as
a
result
of
finding
needles
in
the
public
spaces
of
the
library,
whether
it
be
by
by
chairs
or
in
the
bathrooms
or
in
the
gardens
or
in
the
front
entranceway.
So
for
the
South
End,
we
are
seeing
the
impact
of
the
lack
of
disposal
sites
and
have
had
to
react
to
it.
We
have
several
neighbors.
J
The
presidents
of
several
of
our
neighborhood
associations
have
actually
taken
it
upon
themselves
to
get
sharps
disposal
boxes
and
to
do
routine
sweeps
of
their
particular
neighborhoods.
In
addition
to
the
three
one,
one
sharps
disposal
team,
in
an
effort
to
try
to
control
the
amount
of
sharps
that
are
being
disposed
on,
our
streets
and
sidewalks.
J
So
from
a
South
End
perspective,
we
believe
very
strongly
that
we
need
additional
disposal
sites
and
we
think
that
it's
reasonable
for
us
to
think
about
the
retailers
who
are
actually
providing
sharps
to
the
public
of
taking
some
sense
of
responsibility.
I
will
add
a
couple
of
other
comments
that
we
have
heard
from
others
and
when
we
talked
about
this
ordinance,
if
in
fact,
this
ultimately
wanted
to
be
pilot
tested.
J
If
we
wanted
to
see
how
well
it
worked,
the
South
Bend
would
volunteer
to
be
one
of
the
pilot
sites
for
for
looking
at
whether
or
not
it
would
providing
our
pharmacies
with
this
kind
of
facility
or
this
operation.
Would
it
would
help?
So
we
would
be
more
than
willing
to
do
that
if,
in
fact,
the
pilot
site
was
was
something
reasonable
that
we
wanted
to
do.
But
in
general
we
are
incredibly
supportive
and
we
would
be
delighted
to
see
this
passed.
K
When
we
talk
to
talk
about
the
South,
End
and
New
Market,
which
are
joined
together
as
we
call
math
and
Cass
mass
Avenue
and
Melanie
caste
Boulevard,
as
we
as
we
fondly
call
it,
and
and
we
share
share
the
same
issues
with
it
with
and
with
the
needles
in
the
area.
We
have
I
see
thousands
of
needles
in
Newmarket
every
week,
on
average
we're
picking
up
three
to
five
thousand
a
month
in
the
New
Market
area
and
there's
very,
very,
very
few
places
for
these
to
go.
K
K
Okay,
while
I
absolutely
agree
with
Sarah,
Adam
and
I,
truly
believe
that
the
needle
exchange
programs
have
done
remarkable
work
in
cutting
down
the
HIV
and
AIDS
and
everything
else
amongst,
because,
unlike
addicts,
okay,
so
I'm
not
I
would
never
say
that
that's
not
a
good
program
is
a
great
program.
I
just
feel
like
the
ones
that
are
providing
the
needles
have
to
take
some
responsibility
in
taking
them
back,
because
there
are
there's
a
serious
lack
of
receptacles
in
the
area.
Steve
and
I
have
talked
about
this
at
length
about.
K
Where
can
we
get
sharps
containers?
There
are
areas
I
have
have
them
on
the
states
that
put
them
on
trash
bein.
You
know.
Next,
to
attach
to
the
big
trash
cans,
I'll
put
sharp
convenient.
We
don't
have
that.
That
would
be
very
difficult
for
us
to
do.
I
think
having
the
providers
of
the
needles
take
them
back
is
a
tremendous
first
step
and
I
reject
the
argument
of
the
gentleman
on
the
panel
earlier.
Who
said
that
you
know
it's,
it's
a
risk
to
the
people
in
the
pharmacy
to
have
been
brought
back.
K
A
K
A
K
K
Interesting
because
they
are
used,
I
mean
the
sharps
containers
that
are
in
Newmarket
I.
Think
Sarah
gave
that
number
on
the
shot.
How
many
sharps
are
picked
up
from
the
containers
on
the
receptacles
and
it's
in
the
thousands?
So
it
doesn't
cut
everything,
but
it
certainly
and
to
have
them
in
the
same
place
that
they've
got
the
needles
to
begin
with.
It
becomes
a
alike
and
return
it
here.
K
J
The
same
is
true
for
use
and
accessing
sharks,
and
so
you
know,
rather
than
walking
into
your
local
Sudbury
CVS,
you
know,
coming
into
Boston
and
being
able
to
be
anonymous,
would
also
be
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
be
experiencing
in
our
neighborhood
and
providing
for
Boston
to
be
able
to
have
a
pickup
at
that.
Local
pharmacy
would
be
an
important
dimension
that
we
should
consider.
What's.
A
A
So
pick
up
in
to
your
point,
the
Met
clinic
they're,
coming
from
all
over
the
state
to
come,
whether
it's
from
inanimate
II
purposes
or
just
convenience,
because
this
is
where
they're
working
or
socializing
so
I
would
concur
at
that
point
as
well,
and
then
Sara
Mackin
had
testified
about
an
80%
decrease
in
the
HIV,
which
is
a
huge,
huge
success
story,
but
she
also
stated
the
statistics
around
the
3
1
1
I.
Look
at
you
too
is
sort
of
ground
zero,
both
from
the
mask
ass
area.
You
guys
calling
three
one
one.
A
J
It
seems
like
we're
we're
always
falling
a
little
further
behind,
as
this
crisis
continues
to
escalate,
and
so
whatever
additional
resources
we
can
provide
to
the
3-1-1
sharps
team
is,
is
really
important,
but
I
think
that
what
we
need
to
recognize
is
what
we've
been.
We've
been
working
on
an
opioid
task
force
for
the
past
year
and
have
been
dealing
with
all
of
these
subjects
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
anticipate
happening
in
the
future
in
the
next
six
months
in
the
next
year,
particularly
with
the
introduction
of
new
drugs.
K
A
B
I,
don't
have
a
question
which
is
a
comment
on
the
mobile
sharks.
Pickup
I
spent
a
few
hours
with
their
team.
Maybe
two
months
ago
now
and
within
first
within
that
few
hours
span,
we
collected
sixty
to
eighty
needles
easily
and
that
also
included
we
just
sort
of
went
and
spot-checked
a
couple
of
the
hot
areas
across
or
that
mass
and
cast
and
just
beyond
area.
So
they
included
travel
time.
We
spend
about
a
half
a
day.
B
It
was
really
one
of
those
really
incredibly
hot
days,
and
you
know
the
team
knew
the
individuals
that
we
were
dealing
with
by
name
really
encouraging
them
to
come
in
and
get
some
water
and
go
for
lunch
a
little
bit
later
in
the
day
and
then
all
sort
of
you
know
hopefully
access
some
services.
So
they're
not
just
doing
a
great
job
of
the
pickup
they're,
doing
a
great
job
at
the
services
delivering
services
and
and
really
delivering
conversation
to
a
lot.
K
Of
support
dancers,
really,
you
know,
I
know
this
is
not
part
of
the
bill,
but
an
interesting
part
could
be
going
forward
and
by
the
way
we
would
also
welcome
new
market
as
if
it
was
the
south
end,
we're
doing
it
as
a
pilot.
We
would
welcome
doing
it
as
a
pilot
as
well,
but
you
know
if
there
was
even
some
sort
of
an
incentive
for
people
to
bring
them
back
to
where
they
got
them,
so
that
if,
if
they're
they,
you
know
what
we
do
with
bottle.
Long-Term.
E
K
G
K
E
J
What
we're
also
seeing
Frank
is
that-
and
we
were
talking
about
this
yesterday
at
the
task
force
meeting-
is
that
as
we're
concentrating
more
and
more
on
math
and
cats,
we're
seeing
a
dice
for
yeah,
so
it's
moving
around
so
moving
those
kiosks
you
know
within
our
community
a
little
further
out
from
the
epicenter
would
be
very
helpful.
Maybe.
C
J
I
G
J
Yeah
we're
it.
We've
always
talked
about
this
as
requiring
a
multidisciplinary,
multifaceted
approach
and
I
think
we're
doing
all
of
that.
I
think
that
the
resources
that
are
working
the
issue
are
working:
24/7
yeah
from
the
bicycle
patrol
to
the
outreach
workers
to
the
you
know,
to
Sarah
to
all
of
the
to
the
needle
exchange.
All
of
those
things
are
working
at
capacity
and
over
time
yeah,
but
the
I
talked
to
sergeant
Freeman
from
d4
in
yesterday.
He
said
you
know
this.
Past
weekend
we
made
three
arrests.
J
He
said
two
of
the
three
arrests
were
people
from
out
of
town,
and
he
said
you
know
one
was
from
New
Hampshire
another
one
was
from
Oregon
and
in
fact
they
both
had
mass
health
cards.
They
already
had
their.
They
already
had
their
mass
health
cards
so
and
what
we're
hearing
from
the
police
on
occasion
is
that
you
know
that,
because
we're
so
responsive
and
because
we
have
resources
that
are
designed
to
assist
people,
that
it
becomes
much
easier
for
people
to
come,
and
so
we're
kind
of
like
in
a
yeah.
K
K
You
just
you
know,
and,
and
we
don't
want
to
just
move
people
around
right.
You
know
that
defense
in
one
area
they
go
to
another
area,
we
just
it.
If
not,
we
need
to
get
to
the
root
of
it
and
and
and
feels
like
the
amount
and
you're
right
right.
The
amount
of
resources
are
being
utilized
down
there.
K
K
K
J
At
this
point,
we're
seeing
we're
seeing
at
any
given
point.
You
know
it's
don't
forget
it's
just
two
weeks
old,
so
we're
looking
at
30
to
40
people
on
a
you
know
and
I
on
any
given
time
basis,
and
the
stats
are
coming
in
at
about
a
hundred
a
day
are
actually
which
is
really
pretty
good
for
the
first
two
weeks,
we're
seeing,
for
example,
homeless,
couples
who
typically
can't
be
together
once
in
would
small
and
the
others
in
South
Hampton,
using
the
homeless
shelter
to
come
together
and
off
the
streets.
J
J
It's
it
is
a
balancing
act
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
civil
rights.
What
judge
coffee
said
to
us
is
that
those
that
have
been
committed
and
I
think
we
were
talking
about
39
as
the
total
population,
since
the
program
began
that
that
they
generally
stay
only
for
30
days,
and
then
the
question
becomes,
which
is
the
question
that
we've
always
had,
which
is
the
continuity
of
service
issue
right.
You
know.
J
K
So
we
would
look
like
tell
us
what
is
needed
to
really
make
a
difference
in
this
crisis,
and
then
we
will
figure
out
how
to
paper.
It's
not
a
pretty
problem.
It's
not
a
state
problem,
it's
not
a
business,
it's
not
a
residential!
If
pharmacy,
if
everybody
and
we
have
to
all
be
willing
to
pay
for
something,
that's
going
to
make
the
difference
and
sure
is
anything.
We've
got
to
make
that
happen.
Otherwise
we're
just
going
we're.
J
E
K
L
You
counsel,
Edie
Flynn
Thank,
You
council
Authority,
vice
chairman
sacrum
councillors,
Baker
Council
George
good
morning.
My
name
is
Edie
Flynn
I'm
here
today
to
express
my
support
for
the
audience
to
provide
for
safe
disposal
of
shops.
I
applaud,
Council
George
for
filing
this
ordinance
in
this
committee
for
the
work
that
is
done
on
this
issue
related
to
public
health
and
safety.
L
The
safe
disposal
of
medical
in
biological
waste
is
a
public
health
issue
that
affects
everybody.
In
my
role
as
a
probation
officer
at
Suffolk,
Superior
Court
for
the
last
nine
years,
I
have
assisted
those
that
were
most
vulnerable
and
I
firmly
believe
we
have
a
responsibility
to
help
those
most
in
need.
I
would
also
like
to
take
this
up
into
opportunity
to
ask
the
council
to
consider
analysis
of
a
plan.
I
have
proposed
to
reopen
the
Long
Island
treatment
facility.
L
L
My
proposal
would
allow
those
seeking
care
to
receive
transportation
by
daily
shuttle
bus
from
Boston
Medical
Center
to
the
waterfront,
followed
by
a
ferry
to
Long
Island.
This
plan
would
help
those
seeking
services
and
receive
much-needed
kale.
The
facility
on
Long
Island
would
need
to
be
upgraded
before
services
can
begin
and
I
would
propose
linkage
for
new
developments.
I
used
to
allow
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission
Commission,
to
float
bonds.
These
would
be
used
to
finance
and
reconstruct
Long
Island
facility.
L
The
city
can
also
create
a
pilot
program
similar
to
those
used
for
hospitals
in
medical
schools
as
well.
Additionally,
I
ask
the
committee
to
consider
a
new
partnership
between
the
Boston
Medical
Center
in
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission.
This
would
be
similar
to
a
partnership.
Previous
partnership,
the
city
undertook
between
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission
in
the
BU
Medical
Center,
to
deliver
health
care
and
medical
services
to
residents.
L
Reopening
Long
Island
is
a
critical
piece
to
Boston's
recovery
strategy
and
again
I
just
want
to
thank
the
City
Council
for
being
strong
advocates
for
helping
those
most
in
need
on
substance
abuse
that
I
also
like
to
say
thank
you
to
the
mayor's
office
as
well,
for
always
being
there
and
supporting
those
trying
to
help
them
get
into
drug
treatment.
Programs.
I
respectfully
request
this
committee
to
consider
analyzing
this
issue
and
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
Thank.
A
B
B
I
think
that
it's
important
to
note
that,
although
this
conversation
about
disposal
of
needles
often
turns
to
the
crisis
of
addiction
that
we're
also
talking
about
families
that
have
chronic
illnesses
that
require
the
use
of
injectables
in
their
home,
also
needing
a
place
to
properly
dispose
of
their
needles.
They're
used
Schacht
without
also
having
the
burden,
which
is
sometimes
often
very
burden
and
burdensome
to
pay
for
that
disposal
after
the
initial
purchase
of
those
needles.
B
B
I
would
like
to
thank
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
this
process,
as
we
go
forward
with
this
ordinance
and
in
continue
these
conversations,
both
hearings
and
working
sessions
around
it,
that
the
conversations
I've
had
to
date
with
some
of
the
locally
owned
pharmacies
in
particular,
and
their
representatives
that
there
is
no
doubt
an
initial
opposition
to
this
ordinance.
I
hear
that,
but
there's
also
a
very
genuine
desire
to
be
helpful
in
this
crisis
that
we're
facing
as
a
as
a
city
and
as
a
nation
as
we
as
we
know
and
I'm.
B
Very
grateful
for
that,
and
the
conversations
I've
had
to
date
have
been
very
I.
Think
productive
and
I've
continued
to
use
the
word
thoughtful,
because
I
think
as
we're
facing
this
crisis
and
we're
talking
about
some
of
the
symptoms
of
the
crisis
that,
as
fossils,
we
can
be
in
this
work,
the
more
productive
we
can
be
in
the
long
term.
B
Retailer
pharmacies,
as
well
as
our
nonprofit
pharmacies,
we've
got
pharmacies
of
lots
of
different
makeup
in
the
city
of
Boston,
so
the
work
will
continue
and
I
appreciate
the
Chairman's
efficiency
and
effectiveness
in
getting
this
meeting
going
and
keeping
us
to
a
decent
hour
as
well,
and
thank
you
councillor,
Baker
also
for
being
with
us
today.
Thank.
C
Just
want
to
wan
tsuu
had
talked
about
like
a
the
campuses,
every
drug
recovery
and
maybe
piloting
this
to
go
across
the
country
or
across
the
state,
but
also
we
should
look
at
a
hope
in
the
past
program
as
far
as
piloting
that
around
the
state
first
and
maybe
that's
a
way
we
can
kind
of
alleviate.
What's
going
on
in
in
the
city
of
Boston,
Thank
You
councillor
Thompson
thank
Council
clarity.
We
actually
have
a
good
crew
here
that
that's
at
least
open
to
what
we
need
to
do
and
we're
working
towards
it.
C
C
If
we,
if
we
blend
the
kiosk,
if
we
are
responsible
for
the
disposal,
I,
don't
know
what
I
don't
know
what
the
right
balance
is
I
think,
ideally,
if
we
can
just
get
more
more
kiosks
around
and
make
it
more
available
to
people,
but
the
person
that's
kind
of
just
got
his
needle
his
or
her
needle,
wherever
that
you're
never
going
to
get
that
person
to
put
it
in
in
the
kiosk.
So
that's
why
we
have
that
our
shops
team,
which
Sara
thanks
its
goals,
it's?
A
Thank
you,
council
Vega,
so
that
will
conclude
the
hearing
I
want
to
thank
the
panel
for
your
time
and
attention
thank
the
lead
sponsor
for
her
commitment
in
for
her
thoughtfulness,
as
well
as
counsel
Baker
for
his
participation
and
for
all
of
you
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedules
to
listen
in
to
offer
both
public
testimony
in
hopefully,
moving
forward.
Working
with
the
lead
sponsor
in
the
committee
chair,
helpful
suggestions
as
to
how
we
can
continue
to
work
together
to
combat
this
crisis
or
with
that
docket
zero
started.