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Description
Docket #1087 - Message and order to declare surplus City-owned former Public Works Department parcels of vacant land and the transfer of the care, custody, management and control of said property to Public Facilities Commission. The land located at 400 Frontage Road in South Boston being Ward 08, Parcel 01024040, 200 Frontage Road in South Boston being Ward 08, Parcel 01024035 and Frontage Road in South Boston being Ward 08, Parcels 01024036, 01024107 and 01024037
A
Tation
I'm
here
with
my
colleagues
district
councillors,
Eadie
Flynn
and
Tim
McCarthy
for
a
hearing
on
docket
number
one
zero.
Eight
seven
I
want
to
remind
everybody
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
broadcast,
live
on
channels,
Comcast,
eight
RCN,
82
and
Verizon
1964,
as
well
as
as
well
as
the
city
of
Boston
website.
So
if
you
could,
please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices
and
if
anyone
wishes
to
offer
public
testimony
at
the
end,
please
mark
check
the
Box
on
the
sign-in
sheet.
A
Again.
Today's
docket
is
docket
number
one:
zero,
eight
seven
sponsored
by
the
mayor
and
referred
to
the
Committee
on
July
11th
2018
I,
have
to
read
the
docket
for
the
record,
so
bear
with
me.
It's
message
in
order
to
declare
surplus
city-owned,
former
Public,
Works,
Department
parcels
of
vacant
land
and
the
transfer
of
the
care,
custody,
management
and
control
of
said
property
to
the
public
facilities
to
Commission
the
land
located
at
Fort.
A
The
land
is
located
at
400,
fronted
Road
in
South,
Boston
being
Ward
8
parcel
number
zero
one:
zero,
two:
four:
zero:
four
zero:
two
hundred
frontage
road
in
South,
Boston
being
Ward.
Eight
parcel
number
zero
one:
zero,
two
four
zero:
three:
five
as
well
as
frontage
road
in
South,
Boston
being
Ward;
eight
parcels
zero,
one,
zero,
two:
four:
zero:
three:
six:
zero
one:
zero:
two:
four
one:
zero:
seven
and
zero
one:
zero:
two:
four
zero.
A
Three
three
seven
would
either
of
my
colleagues
like
to
give
an
opening
statement
before
we
hand
it
over
to
the
administration,
no
okay,
so
I
guess
just
for
background.
We've
we've
had
a
few
hearings
this
term
on
surplus,
we'll
get
more
into
that.
But
the
idea
is
that
this
is
city-owned
property,
with
a
request
to
transfer
it
to
the
Commission.
That
would
then
allow
it
for
disbursement
to
any
number
of
potential
uses.
Chief.
B
B
Sorry
about
the
mic:
I
Castle,
Flynn,
Council
McCarthy.
Thank
you
for
attending.
If
your
engagement,
as
you
said,
we
are
here,
we
were
seeking
the
counsel
support
for
surplus
in
the
frontage
road
parcel,
which
is
really
the
heart
of
the
city's
basic
city
services
operation,
and
we
are
advancing
that
because
we
want
to
continue
the
exploration
of
a
proposal
that
we
think
can
do
two
things.
One
strengthen
our
ability
to
deliver
great
basic
city
services
in
the
City
of
Boston
and
to
be
able
to
actually
strengthen
and
make
more
resilient
to
neighborhoods
in
our
city.
B
I
am
going
to
briefly
go
through
some
background
on
this
that
we've
been
sort
of
putting
together
over
the
last
eight
months
and
then
so.
The
panel
of
the
five
of
us
are
open
to
all
of
your
questions.
I'm
joined
up
here
by
Commissioner
Gina
fee
and
aqua
cookies.
Our
transportation
department,
michael
Broll,
who
is
our
superintendent
of
street
operations,
hello
Campuzano,
who
is
the
chief
of
staff
for
the
Boston
Planning
and
Development
Agency
and
Tricia
Lyons,
who
leads
property
construction
management,
represents
the
public's
abilities
Commission
as
well.
B
So,
in
short,
over
the
next
ten
minutes,
or
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
four
things.
Well,
just
give
some
background
about
frontage
road
today,
a
little
bit
about
where
it
is
who's
working
there,
how
the
space
is
actually
used.
Second,
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
pressing
challenges
that
that
particular
parcel
is
facing,
and
some
of
the
opportunities
that
were
identified
through
the
city's
public
planning
process.
Imagine
Boston
2030
for
that
parcel
in
the
area
around
it.
B
We
want
to
really
point
out
a
couple
things
we
highlighted
on
this
map
three
different
parcels
within
the
city
of
Boston.
One
is
the
one
we're
in
today
at
the
northern
end,
which
is
Boston
City
Hall,
then
in
the
middle
you
see
South
Station
and
the
third,
the
one
on
the
south.
You
see
frontage
road.
We
wanted
to
highlight
these
three
parcels
really
for
two
reasons:
one
is
to
give
a
sense
of
scale
and
the
other
is
to
give
a
sense
of
proximity
I'm
a
sense
of
scale.
Frontage
road
itself
is
about
18
acres.
B
It
is
a
very
sizable
parcel
again
the
heart
of
the
city's
basic
city
services
operations
and,
second,
in
terms
of
proximity.
It
is
roughly
equidistant
to
South
Station
as
Boston
City
Hall
is
so
it's
actually
fairly
close
to
the
downtown
core,
in
addition,
is
actually
in
many
ways
a
keystone
parcel
in
council
Flynn's
district
at
the
intersection
of
South
Boston's
South
End
in
Chinatown,
and
we
wanted
to
give
serve
that
geographical
context.
B
Second,
the
parcel
is
really
again
the
heart
of
how
we,
the
basic
city
service
operations
in
the
city
of
Boston,
there's
about
500
different
city
staff
who
report
out
of
this
area.
The
vast
majority
of
them
don't
work
day
to
day
at
this
location.
They
are
in
our
neighborhoods
delivering
city
services
on
the
streets,
but
I
wanted
to
walk
through
sort
of
who
works
out
of
these
particular
facilities.
The
northern
end
of
the
frontage
road
is
what
we
call
400
frontage
road
overwhelmingly.
B
That
area
is
the
Public
Works
team,
the
Public
Works
Operations
team
that
mike
oversees
that
includes
our
highway
operations.
So
everything
from
how
we
pick
up
community
litter,
baskets
and
recycling
baskets
across
the
city,
to
how
we
think
about
snowstorms
and
handle
snowstorms
in
the
city
of
Boston,
the
principle,
salt
pile
for
the
city
of
Boston,
is
also
on
this
location.
It
is
what
is
the
sort
of
notched
out
in
yellow
at
the
southern
end
of
that
particular
image?
B
Additionally,
is
the
district
yard
is
the
the
district
yard
for
a
couple
of
neighborhoods
in
the
city
of
Boston?
The
district
yards
are
the
teams
that
deliver
some
of
those
really
core
city
services
like
filling
potholes,
removing
graffiti
addressing
litter
concerns,
etc.
For
most
of
our
neighborhoods,
there
is
a
district
yard
that
is
in
the
neighborhood
itself,
but
we
service
all
of
South,
Boston
Charlestown
and
all
the
neighborhoods
that
essentially
are
north
and
north
and
east
of
Mass
Ave,
so
South,
End,
Back,
Bay,
downtown
North,
End,
Chinatown,
Weston,
etc.
All
out
of
this
particular
location.
B
In
addition,
this
is
also
the
home
to
the
city's
waste
reduction
and
code
enforcement
groups.
Just
before
this
hearing,
Mike
said
that
this
particular
day
and
it's
peculiar
weekend
is
like
a
blizzard
for
our
our
waste
reduction
and
code
enforcement
team.
It
is
a
student
move-in
weekend
in
the
city
of
Boston.
That
is
something
which
the
Public
Works
Department
in
collaboration
with
PT
D
and
many
other
city
agencies,
spend
a
lot
of
time
focused
on
the
waste
reduction
and
code
enforcement
team.
B
Are
the
teams
that
that
oversee
the
delivery
of
trash
recycling
services
and
composting
services
across
the
city
of
Boston,
as
well
as
ensuring
that
things
like
litter
in
public
spaces
and
on
shovel
sidewalks,
are
addressed
in
our
city.
Additionally,
there
are
sort
of
components
of
several
Public
Works
divisions
that
are
housed
here,
but
they
are
not
entirely
here.
So
a
fraction
of
our
street
lighting
division
is
housed
here.
B
A
fraction
of
the
city's
engineering
division
is
housed
here
and
a
fraction
of
the
city's
building
maintenance
and
bridge
maintenance
group
is
last
year
in
addition
to
the
Public
Works
team,
which
is
sort
of
the
overwhelming
sort
of
tenant
within
404s
road.
It
is
also
the
place
where
the
senior
shuttle
the
elderly
commissioned
dispatches
its
senior
shuttle
services
across
the
city.
It
is
also
home
in
part
to
the
police,
vehicle
maintenance
division
and
its
radio
and
telecommunication
shop.
In
addition,
the
city's
central
fleet
maintenance
unit
is
housed
out
of
here
in
the
city's
radio.
B
The
city's
auction
lot
is
about
250
spaces
in
the
tow
lot,
another
75
in
the
off
it's
where
the
entire
parking
enforcement
officers
unit
dispatches
out
of,
and
it's
where
our
meter
shop
functions
from
it's
about
9,000
meters,
spaces
in
the
city
of
Boston.
Those
parking
meters
are
serviced
out
of
this
location
here,
stepping
back
from
the
actual
sort
of
who
is
there
part
of
what
the
util
team
looked
at
was.
B
How
is
that
space
actually
used
between
that
particular
location
and
to
other
satellite
locations
that
are
currently
in
temporary
use
by
both
Public
Works
and
transportation?
One
on
Canterbury
Road
for
our
street
lighting
division
and
one
at
12,
channel
Street
for
our
sign
and
signal
shop.
There's
about
a
million
square
feet
of
space
overwhelmingly
that
million
square
feet
is,
is
used
actually
for
vehicle
storage,
about
60%
59%
of
the
land
is
actually
for
vehicle
storage
and
that
breaks
down
into
three
different
components.
B
One
set
of
that
is
for
sort
of
large
vehicle
large
vehicle
storage,
a
lot
of
as
public
works
equipment
that
could
be
Packers.
That
could
be
street
sweepers
that
can
be
snow
blowers,
things
that
are
sort
of
core
Public
Works
equipment.
Another
roughly
19%
is
for
the
city's
toll
at
an
auction
lot
again
about
250
spaces
for
the
tow
lot
and
75
for
the
auction
lot
and
the
balance
of
the
vehicle
storage
space
again.
Another
roughly
19%
is
dedicated
to
a
light
vehicle
storage.
B
This
is
everything
from
employee
parking
to
code
enforcement
vehicles,
another
sort
of
smaller
vehicle,
so
the
city
maintains
as
part
of
its
fleet.
Only
8%
of
the
entire
site
is
actually
sort
of
they're
like
traditional
office
space.
That's
everything
from
our
sort
of
the
headquarters
of
our
highway
operations
and
weights,
reductions,
divisions
to
the
elections,
department,
staff
and
then
that
remaining
third
is
actually
just
a
storage
and
shop
space,
really
our
central
fleet
police,
central
fleet,
the
meter
shop,
storage
for
elections,
etc.
B
It's
roughly
the
space
breakdown
of
this
this
area,
that's
essentially
the
broad
context
of
what's
a
frontage
road
today,
one
of
the
things
that
the
utile
team
looked
at
we're
what
are
really
the
pressing
challenges
that
are
facing
this
particular
site
and
what
are
some
of
the
opportunities
that
have
been
identified
through?
Imagine
Boston,
2030
the
challenges,
and
these
are
challenges
that
are
fairly
well
known
to
to
all
three
of
you.
We
have
a
set
of
old
building.
We
have
rising
tides.
B
This
is
a
site,
that's
in
a
floodplain,
and
currently
the
space
is
either
outdated
or
somewhat
inefficiently
allocated
on
the
old
building
site.
Over
the
last
10
years,
our
city
has
invested
around
27
million
dollars
in
some
critical
repairs
and
infrastructure
on
the
front
of
drobe
campus.
This
includes
everything
from
improvements
to
the
main
parking
structure
at
400
frontage
road,
some
improvements
in
the
central
Fleet
area,
things
that
simply
have
to
be
done.
B
We've
gotten
support
from
Justin
starett,
who
is
here,
who
leads
the
budget
office
to
invest
another
nine
million
dollars
into
what
will
be
a
next
round
of
necessary
and
critical
repairs
with
in
the
frontage
road
campus.
That
includes
making
some
improvements
to
the
sewer
line,
making
some
improvements
to
the
water
line,
making
some
additional
improvements
to
the
curtain.
Walls
there's
an
additional
twelve
million
dollars
identified,
but
unfunded
need
to
do
some
additional
work
on
floors.
B
One
through
four
of
the
garage
at
foreigner
frontage,
road,
the
building
is
sort
of
in
total,
is
been
identified
as
one
that's,
basically
reaching
the
end
of
its
useful
life.
Our
payments
simply
to
keep
it
functioning
at
some
point,
are
going
to
outstrip
the
payments
to
actually
build
a
new,
and
so
we
are
grappling
with
that
every
day
and
perhaps
underscoring
that
this
morning.
B
One
of
the
first
notes
that
Mike
and
I
receive
is
the
fact
that
the
air-conditioning
is
today
at
the
daily
occurrences
that
are
that
are
happening
at
particularly
the
400
frontage
road
site,
which
is
underscoring
the
need
for
us
to
actually
act
and
act
quickly.
Just
to
give
our
team
the
right
type
of
facilities
that
actually
they
can
work
out
of
every
single
day.
B
The
second
thing,
which
has
been
identified
largely
through
the
work
of
the
environment,
energy
and
open
space
cabinet
in
their
work
at
climb
ready,
Boston,
it's
just
the
impact
that
sea-level
rise
is
gonna,
have
on
this
site
and
others
across
the
city.
Already
this
site
has
been
identified
as
a
place
that
in
severe
storms
is
likely
to
flood
in
2050,
we're
expecting
around
21
inches
of
sea-level
rise
and
2070.
We're
expecting
40
inches
of
sea
level
rise
in
both
2050
and
2070.
B
This
particular
site
tire
to
the
site,
is
identified
as
one
which
would
likely
be
flooded
out
in
a
10-year
storm,
as
the
urgency
and
severity
of
this
really
frankly
was
pointed
out
very
clearly
on
January
4th
of
this
year.
We
got
a
snowstorm
in
the
city
of
Boston,
which
was
about
a
14
inch
snowstorm
on
that
day.
But
what
also
happened
is
because
of
the
nor'easter
that
came
at
the
same
time.
B
We
also
had
significant
flooding
throughout
the
entirety
of
tow
a
lot,
the
entirety
of
200
frontage,
road
and
much
of
the
core
operational
area
of
the
400
frontage
road
site.
This
is
not
a
long-term
challenge
that
we
have
need
to
face.
This
is
an
immediate
one,
which
is
really
a
reminder
to
us
that
the
core
services
that
we
need
to
provide
and
making
sure
that
our
city
streets
are
great
need
to
be
reliable
when,
when
the
city
most
needs,
it
can't
be
at
risk
to
things
like
severe
northeast
Nor'easters.
B
The
third
thing
which
has
been
identified-
and
this
is
against
our
familiar
to
many
of
you-
now-
there's
just
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
modernize
and
take
a
better
look
at
how
we
organize
our
city
services.
One
of
the
things
that
is
just
a
challenge
is
again:
we've
got
a
number
of
split
divisions
across
multiple
sites.
The
Transportation
Department
has
some
of
its
operations
team
out
of
200
frons
Road,
some
of
its
operation
team
of
12
channel
Center,
most
of
our
street
lighting
divisions
on
Canterbury
Road,
some
of
those
located
here.
B
Some
of
our
engineering
team
is
in
City
Hall.
The
rest
of
our
engineering
team
is
is
that
frontage
road,
there's
just
an
opportunity
for
us
to
have
people
who
need
to
work
together
actually
be
together
and
that's
something
which
is
of
great
interest
to
us.
We've
also
realized
that,
for
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
the
site
at
400
frontage,
road
we've
got
a
lot
of.
B
We've
got
some
interesting
layout
of
spaces,
which
means
that
there's
some
inefficient
uses
of
the
way
in
which
the
current
floor
plants
are
used
and,
at
the
southern
end
of
the
site
that
200
inch
Road,
we
actually
have
over
200
people
working
out
of
a
very
small
building
in
a
very
space
constrained
environment,
and
so
there's
a
real
opportunity
for
us
to
think
about
how
we
improve
these
spaces.
These
were
sort
of
the
broad
challenges
that
were
identified
and
prior
to
the
the
work
by
uto
prior
to
the
work.
B
That's
happened
over
the
course
this
year
there
was
a
set
of
work
that
was
done
through
imagine,
Boston
2030
in
the
cities
of
long-term
sort,
land-use
plan
and
vision
that
identified
some
interesting
opportunities
for
this
parcel
as
part
of
a
broader
network.
In
imagine,
Boston
2030
there
were
served
five
broad
goals
that
were
identified
goals
around
mixed-use
downtown
core
around
enhancing
our
neighborhoods
around
expanding
our
neighborhoods
around
embracing
the
waterfront
and
around
connecting
networks
of
opportunity.
B
What
is
interesting
about
this
particular
parcel
is
that
it
basically
shows
up
in
three
of
the
five
major
goals
were
identified.
Imagine
Boston
2030!
So
one
of
those
major
goals
was
thinking
about
how
we
sort
of
expand
our
neighborhoods
or
think
about
places
that
are
well
served
by
transit
today,
but
that,
on
most
people's
sort
of
mental
map
do
not
seem,
like
necessarily
part
of
the
city.
B
It
also
plays
a
role
in
the
overall
sort
of
waterfront
and
resiliency
strategy
for
the
city
of
Boston
and
then
finally,
the
city
is
putting
a
lot
of
focus
across
the
board
at
some
of
at
the
entirety
of
the
Fairmount
Quarter
and
the
Fairmount
Line
actually
runs
right
adjacent
to
this
parcel.
So
as
we
think
about
how
we
connect
everybody
who
lives
along
the
Fairmount
line
with
great
opportunities,
there's
a
role
that
this
parcel
may
be
able
to
play.
B
So
these
were
some
of
the
opportunities
that
were
identified
in
imagine
Boston
2032,
as
we
were
doing
this
review
over
the
course
this
last
year
about
this
particular
parcel.
So,
given
the
challenges
that
this
critical
parcel
is
facing
from
outdated
buildings
and
in
sea
level,
rise,
etc,
and
given
some
of
the
opportunities
were
identified,
imagine
Boston
2030.
B
So,
first,
on
the
best
practices
side,
they
highlighted
three
one
is
around
densification.
The
second
is
around
modernization.
The
third
is
around
reorganization.
Densification
was
particularly
clear
in
places
that,
like
the
city
of
Boston,
are
increasingly
seeing
sort
of
land
values
at
a
premium.
We're
increasing,
increasing
development
is
necessitating,
perhaps
a
sort
of
higher
density
in
the
way
in
which
basic
city
services
are
constructed.
B
Both
New
York,
City
and
LA
have
made
investments
in
this
regard
in
New,
York
City,
with
their
their
sanitation
team
and
la
through
their
transit
team,
where
they're,
basically
creating
taking
sort
of
lower
density
buildings,
sort
of
more
surface
parking
and
actually
redesigning
that
space
and
creating
sort
of
a
higher
density
building
as
a
way
of
saving
space
and
more
efficiently
delivering
services.
So
that
was
one
best
practice
they
identified.
The
second
best
practice
they
identified
was
around
modernization
of
the
technology
that
one
uses
to
actually
deliver
services.
B
This
was
particularly
clear
around
things
like
inventory
management.
There's
a
lot
of
inventory.
We
we
handle
around
things
like
sign,
stock
and
parking
meters
and
all
of
our
street
lighting
equipment,
figuring
out
sort
of
new
ways,
better
ways
to
be
able
to
actually
handle.
That
inventory
allows
us
to
reduce
space
and
actually
manage
our
inventory
more
efficiently
and
effectively
and
then
third
there
and
there
are
slightly
conflicting
models
here.
Cities
have
taken
sort
of
two
different
approaches.
B
So
these
are
the
three
best
practices
that
they
that
the
util
teams
are
brought
to
us
and,
as
part
of
that,
overall
effort
then
began
to
take
a
look
at.
Are
there
alternative
ways
in
which
we
can
either
reorganize
on
the
frontage
road
site
or
at
the
frontage
road
site,
an
additional
site,
or
entirely
off
the
frontage
road
site,
where
we
could
actually
still
affordably
and
efficiently
deliver
great
basic
city
services?
And
that's
essentially
led
them
to
what
you
see
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen?
B
Six
different
polymer,
nary
alternatives
and
again
I
just
want
underscore
that
this
is
not
intended
to
be
an
exhaustive
list
or
or
even
sort
of
in
any
way
a
final
list.
But
there's
the
intent
was
just
testing
the
feasibility
of.
Can
we
reorganize
how
we
deliver
basic
city
services
geographically
and
still
do
a
great
job
of
doing
that?
So
one
option
was
to
consolidate
entirely
on
a
single
site
and
two
options
were
identified.
Our
two
locations
were
identified
there.
B
One
is
the
southern
half
a
frontage
road,
so
to
take
the
northern
half
of
frontage
road,
the
area
which
is
essentially
a
bust.
The
West
4th
Street
Bridge
the
area,
that's
closer
to
things
like
the
Broadway,
tee,
stop
and
the
Silver
Line,
and
redevelop
that
for
for
other
purposes
and
use
the
southern
half
and
take
more
of
the
New
York
City
in
LA
approach
of
a
slightly
denser
building
on
the
southern
half
of
the
frontage
road
site.
The
other
place
that
we
looked
at
for
as
a
consolidation
on
a
single
site.
B
It
was
Reed
Street,
which
is
a
street
which
is
adjacent
to
or
right
near,
the
Boston,
Water
and
Sewer
facility.
These
are
some
options
of
how
again
on,
in
this
case,
on
a
three
acre
site.
You
can
imagine
bringing
all
services
under
one
roof
to
be
able
to
serve
more
efficiently
deliver
city
services.
B
Those
were
the
second
set
of
options
they
looked
at
and
the
third
set
of
options
is
really
sort
following
the
Charlotte
model
of
sort
of
broad
sort
of
decentralization.
So
really
thinking
about.
Do
we
take
more
of
our
divisions,
sort
into
our
neighborhoods
so
that
they
are
closer
to
the
the
people
that
actually
serve
across
the
board
instead
of
the
sort
of
the
overall
finding
and
sort
of
key
reason?
Why
we're
here
is
that
it
is
well.
Each
of
these
are
expensive
in
the
overall
cost
is
probably
around
150
to
175
million
dollars.
B
For
us
to
pursue
any
of
these
options,
that's
the
at
least
the
initial
estimate.
It
is
likely
less
expensive
for
us
to
actually
reduce
our
footprint
on
the
frontage
road
site
than
it
is
to
actually
remain
in
our
current
in
our
current
formulation
on
that
area
in
that
area,
and
that's
largely
because
there's
a
number
of
environmental
issues
and
principally
sea
level
rise
issues
that
happen
on
the
northern
end
of
the
site.
B
And,
second,
as
you
look
at
the
site
in
total,
if
we
were
to
actually
reconstruct
on
our
existing
footprint,
we
run
into
a
significant
operational
challenge
of
how
we
continue
to
deliver
great
basic
city
services.
While
we
were
actually
reconstructing
the
entirety.
The
frontage
road
site,
second,
by
actually
redesigning
our
facilities
overall
you've
got
a
good
opportunity
to
think
about
how
we
can
actually
realign
some
our
divisions
so
have
our
entire
BTD
operations,
grouped
together,
have
our
entire
street
lighting
division
together.
B
B
First
from
our
work
over
the
last
eight
months,
you
know
we
just
believe:
there's
there's
urgency
here
we
have
seen
from
this
road
already
flood
during
a
major
storm
when
we
had
to
respond
to
14
inches
of
snow
in
the
city
of
Boston,
we
saw
in
January,
we
saw
it
in
March.
We
are
reminded
had
quite
regular
intervals
of
the
fact
that
the
current
facilities
are
just
reaching
the
end
of
their
useful
life.
There's
some
urgency
in
acting.
B
We
can't
do
nothing
and
continue
to
expect
to
deliver
great
basic
city
services
in
the
city
of
Boston
a
second.
We
know
that
you
know
that
this
is
not
going
to
be
an
inexpensive,
inexpensive
effort.
Around
150
million
dollars
will
be
required
for
us
to
actually
sort
of
reinvest
in
our
basic
city
services
capacity.
B
We
are
quite
familiar
and
you
guys
are
quite
familiar
with
the
implications
of
what
that
means.
The
entirety
of
the
Public,
Works
and
transportation
capital
budget
annually
is
roughly
40
million
dollars,
so
we'd
be
talking
about
the
entirety
of
what
we
are
spending
on
our
streets
for
four
years
to
basically
rebuild
or
reinvest
in
our
basic
city
services
capacity.
B
The
good
news,
though,
is
that,
because
of
the
work
that
has
been
done
over
the
last
eight
months,
we
think
there's
an
interesting
opportunity
here.
We
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
basically
reduce
our
footprint
in
frontage
road
or
to
be
able
to
relocate
off
a
frontage
road
to
free
up
some
open
space.
B
The
northern
end
of
the
site
in
particular,
which
allows
us
to
deal
with
some
of
the
resiliency
and
neighborhood
connectivity
issues
as
well
as
get
some
additional
funding
that
can
help
us
again
reinvest
into
basic
city
services
and
the
infrastructure
we've
got
in
the
city
of
Boston,
so
for
us
in
the
path
ahead.
What
that
looks
like
essentially,
are
these
three
specific
steps.
So
first
is
the
step
that
we've
basically
been
taking
over
the
course
of
2018,
which
is
some
background
research
about
who
is
that
frontage
road?
How
is
that
space
being
used?
B
Are
there
feasible
alternatives
that
we
could
be
looking
at?
Is
it
worth
it
us
to
continue
this
effort
and
to
be
able
to
request
your
support
in
surplus
in
this
property
shifted
from
one
department
to
another,
so
that
we
can
actually
proceed
to
what
our
steps,
2a
and
2b
steps?
2A
and
2b
are
basically
very
important
planning
efforts,
one
which
will
be
led
in
parts
of
the
B
PDA
and
the
other
in
which
one
part
will
be
led
by
the
property
and
construction
management
team.
One
of
those
steps.
B
What
we're
calling
here
step
2a
is
basically
a
deep
dive
into
identifying
locations
in
the
city
of
Boston,
whether
it's
at
frontage
or
other
places
where
we
will
house
our
basic
city
services
team
in
the
future.
Do
that
through
a
public
process
I'm
going
to
the
actual
real
details
of
what
locations
make
sense,
what
divisions
make
sense
together?
What
are
the
actual
designs
and
layouts
of
those
buildings
look
like
and
what
will
likely
cost
be.
B
So
that,
in
short,
is
why
we
are
here
again
fundamentally,
what
we
were
looking
at
is
the
challenge
of
continuing
to
provide
great
basic
city
services
in
the
City
of
Boston
and
a
real
opportunity
here
to
think
about
how
we
realign
our
footprint
at
the
frontage
road
site
to
not
only
improve
the
way
in
which
we
serve
our
neighborhoods,
but
also
think
about
how
we
actually
can
strengthen
our
neighborhoods.
So
with
that
with
that
sort
of
broad
context
and
I
apologize
for
for
going
on.
A
A
Would
love
more
context
on
this,
but
it
feels
like
there
are
few
if
any
parcels
like
this
left,
where
the
city
has
a
major
potential
major
development
opportunity,
we
saw
Winthrop
Square
happened
fairly
recently,
there's
maybe
Court
Street,
but
this
you
know
and
of
course,
trees
already
a
building.
So
it's
a
different
scale
of
conversation.
What
is
this?
How
many
sites
like
this
are
left
in
city
ownership
that
we
would
have
this
scale
of
development
conversation
over.
B
So
and
how
that
applies
a
better
and
interesting.
We
have
a
more
specific
answer.
I
think
you're,
right
that
there
are
not
that
many
parcels
that
are
city-owned
that
are
of
the
scale
that
are
this
contiguous
that
have
these
attributes.
I
think
this
is
there
are,
there
may
be
a
handful,
but
this
is
certainly
would
be
a
small
set
and
the
the
interest,
and
that
is
why
sort
of
the
city
is
pursuing
an
approach.
We're
just
sort
of
tactically
and
had
I
can
talk
more
about
this.
B
A
Yeah,
okay
and
again,
one
of
the
few
remaining
opportunities
to
really
sort
of
cement,
some
public
use
in
an
area
of
the
city
where
there
is
less
and
less
open
space.
There
is
more
and
more
development.
There
are
more
and
more
transportation
challenges
and
congestion.
I
know:
you've,
we've
talked
a
lot
about.
Imagine
Boston
2030.
Has
there
been
any
specific
work
on
this
parcel
in
terms
of
what
you
would
require
or
what
you
would
plan
in
terms
of
open
space,
height,
affordability,
anything
like
that.
C
There
hasn't
been
any
specific
planning.
The
New
Market
area
is
one
that
was
highlighted
in
imagine,
Boston
2030,
as
an
area
for
expanded
growth
that
planning
process
that
planning
initiatives
is
anticipated
to
be
kicked
off
next
year
in
2019
with
our
Planning
Department.
They
are
obviously
aware
of
this
and
will
be
helping
us
craft.
A
C
A
C
Is
he
zoning
currently,
the
rezoning
would
probably
happen
concurrently,
similar
it
as
we
see
with
our
large-scale
article
80
projects
across
the
city,
the
site
is
planned
development
area
eligible.
So
for
a
parcel
of
this
size
and
potentially
a
project
of
this
scale,
a
zoning
overlay
may
be
the
right
tool
to
use.
That
would
obviously
need
the
RA
excuse
me:
B
PDA,
board
approval
and
Zoning
Commission
approval,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
anticipate
rezoning
the
site
ahead
of
any
development
proposal.
I
think
that
would
happen
concurrently
with
an
article
80,
large
project
review
process.
C
E
C
A
It
have
you
considered
other
plans,
besides
disparate
of
disposing
of
the
full
selling
the
entire
site,
for
example,
long-term
99
year
lease
with
the
city
retains
ownership
or
carving
it
up
into
certain
parcels,
if
we
know,
for
example,
through
had
if
there
were
more
of
a
planning
process
first,
that
this
is
one
of
the
few
last
opportunities
for
open
space.
That
would
also
help
with
some
of
the
climate
change
concerns
to
reserve,
that
in
city
ownership
and
then
only
disburse
part
of
a
part
of
the
you
know,
a
subdivided
portion
of
the
site.
Yeah.
C
Made
more
financial
sense
based
on
sort
of
the
evaluation
of
obviously
the
services
that
are
native
there
now,
where
and
when
they
would
be
relocated
and
sort
of
how
that
process
played
out
I.
Don't
think
we've
had
any
discussions
relative
to
subdividing
the
parcel.
It's
certainly
something
that
we
could
continue.
Discussions
on,
but
I
think
the
initial
thought
was
to
put
out
one
RFP
for
the
entire
site
and
see
what
proposals
came
back.
Okay,.
A
So
I
know
my
colleagues
have
other
questions,
so
I'm
gonna
pass
it
on
I,
guess
I'll
just
say
that
the
only
I
think
this
is
great,
that
the
city
is
thinking
ahead
and
planning
and
trying
to
bring
all
these
pieces
together
and
the
connectivity,
the
climate
change
resiliency,
the
the
opportunities
the
only
problem
I
have
right
now
is
with
the
order
of
the
process
in
terms
of
council
participation,
sort
of
ending
with
the
surplus
decision.
When
we
don't
have
any
appraisal
figures,
we
don't
know
lease
sale.
A
A
G
Thank
You
counsel
vote
and
thank
you
for
to
the
panelists
for
being
here
and
presenting
your
proposal
if
I
could
start
with
chief
was
good
the
facility
yeah
frontage
road
services,
the
entirety
of
my
district
provides
high
quality
services,
basic
city
services,
to
my
constituents
and
to
the
other
City
Council's
as
well.
That's
my
top
priority,
his
basic
city
services,
making
sure
that
these
basic
city
services,
regardless
of
what
changes
do
take
place.
These
basic
city
services
continue.
For
example,
last
night
I
was
in
Chinatown
for
three
hours.
G
There
was,
there
was
an
apartment
at
the
30.
30
apartments
didn't
have
any
cold
water,
but
we
had
the
water
and
soil
was
working.
The
Public
Works
was
there.
The
Boston
Fire
was
on
scene,
but
my
point
is
all
the
city
departments
were
working
together
working
hard,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there
are
changes
and
I
expect,
there
will
be
changes.
What
impact
will
that
have
on
basic
city
services,
because,
as
I
said,
that's
my
that's
my
top
priority.
So.
B
That
is
also
my
top
priority
that
is
absolutely
Mike's
top
prior
to
Gina's
top
party.
This
is
a
top
priority
for
the
mayor.
There's
no
question
about
that.
That
is
our.
That
is
our
charge,
and
it
is
very
clear
that
we
will
not
move
forward
with
any
plan
unless
it
actually
sustains
and
strengthens
basic
city
services.
We
do
feel
and
and
and
Mike
and
Gina
can
touch
more
on
this.
H
Firmly,
second,
that
my
small
role
here
is
to
make
sure
that
basic
city
services
from
the
public
works
and
which,
as
you
know,
touches
snow
litter
baskets
code
enforcement,
waste
reduction
street
lighting-
is
only
strengthened
by
whatever
happens
in
this
process
in
talking
internally
Dandini,
one
of
our
top
operational
guys
said
it
best.
When
you
said
whatever
happens
here,
we
need
to
be
better
basically
service
provider
and
the
great
opportunity
that
the
city
has
touches
us
as
well,
and
we
and
we
will
be
better
through
this
process.
H
G
B
The
climate
ready,
Boston
team,
the
team
out
of
energy
environment,
open
space,
is
leading
a
set
of
planning
efforts
right
now
focused
on
the
four-point
channel
in
South
Boston
as
you're
as
you're.
Well
aware,
this,
this
parcel
in
their
eyes
is,
does
play
a
critical
role
in
thinking
about
flood
protection.
Storm
prevention
in
the
future
there
is
gonna
be
some
work
which
they're
looking
at,
which
is
further
to
the
north
up
the
Fort
Point
channel.
B
But
this
this
would
play
survey
an
important
sort
of
secondary
role
in
both
the
pretty
for
the
South
End
side,
and
so
in
no
matter
what
we
do
either
on
the
basic
city,
services,
side
or
through
development.
We
are
gonna,
make
sure
that
what
we
are
building
itself
on,
that
location
is
more
resilient
in
to
the
extent
that
can
contribute
to
the
overall
resiliency
of
the
mate
of
the
neighborhoods
that
you
represent.
Did
we
wraps
gonna?
Make
sure
it
advances
that
as
well.
B
Again,
we
are
already
gonna,
spend
we're
slotted
to
spend
around
nine
million
dollars
right
now.
Nine
million
dollars
is
more
than
Beach
Street.
It's
three
times
our
vision,
zero
budget,
it's
more
than
the
day
and
a
half
bridge
like
this
is
this
is
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
we
are
using
to
do.
Some
really
basic
things
like
repair,
a
sewer
line,
repair
water
line
or
power
curtain
wall'
make
some
fixes
the
elevator,
so
I'm,
just
real
bread-and-butter
things
and
our
concern
is
that
we're
just
gonna.
G
Okay,
I
have
more
questions,
I'll,
just
ask
one
more
question:
Chris
and
then
I.
What
my
colleagues
asked
some
I
know.
You
highlighted
several
departments
that
are
that
are
in
frontage
road
and
that
will
be
impacted,
but
departments
that
aren't
at
frontage
road.
What
type
of
communication
will
you
have
with
them
during
this
process,
and
can
we
also
make
sure
that
if
the
project
does
go
forward
that
a
lot
of
these
city
departments
like
the
parks
department,
there
is
part
of
the
process?
G
The
one
reason
I
ask
is:
over
the
weekend,
I
was
again:
I
was
in
Chinatown
watch
and
Chinese
men
and
women
play
volleyball
at
the
Reggie
Wong
facility
court
that
scheduled
to
probably
be
shut
down
to
state
the
state
owned
property.
But
my
point
is,
you
know,
we're
doing
a
huge
project
like
this.
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
kids
from
Chinatown
or
South
Boston
or
the
south
end
that
need
open
space?
They
need
parks.
We
want
to
continue
these
volleyball
programs.
B
I
think
that
is
a
a
really
interesting
opportunity
in
the
sort
of
the
programming
study,
which
would
be
ahead,
which
would
be
led
by
Trish's
team.
There's
some
interesting
adjacent
to
the
opportunities
that
were
sort
of
flagged.
If
you
think
about
us
being
having
at
least
some
element
of
a
footprint
on
Mass
Ave
across
or
near
10/10,
Mass
Ave,
you
do
form
that
sort
of
that
closer
adjacency
or
synergy
with
both
parks
and
with
ISD
and
with
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission.
B
If
you
think
about
being
closer
to
water
and
sewer
similar
to
your
example
last
night,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
sort
of
through
physical
proximity
think
about
how
we
actually
have
a
closer
working
relationship
with
with
those
divisions
or
agencies.
So
I
think
that
that
is
exactly
the
sort
of
thing
which
we
want
to
wrestle
with
over
the
course
this
year,
so
as
Mike
said
or
as
Danny
said,
that
we
actually
become
better
out
of
this
process.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
There
we
go
good
afternoon,
everybody
I
think
the
one
thing
I
will
say
is
somebody
who's
been
in
that
building
many
many
times,
and
many
spent
many
many
hours
in
that
building.
I
think
it
might
help
to
have
actually
a
little
council
road
trip
to
go
over
there
and
take
a
look
at
the
building
for
real,
because
I
think
that
unless
you've
been
in
that
building,
you
really
don't
understand
the
empty
space
and
in
useless
areas
that
that
building
contains
and
how
much
better
that
building
could
be.
F
If
you
made
it
smaller
and
more
efficient,
you
know
27
million
dollars
just
for
a
couple
years
ago,
we
spent
now
we're
looking
at
another
21
in
the
next
24
months.
It
completely
makes
no
sense
to
continue
to
sink
building
money
into
this
building,
saying
that
the
building
is
actually
sinking
twice
and
you
know
we're
gonna
lose
it
ultimately,
just
a
couple
things
that
you
know
I,
think
the
opportunity
is
huge
here.
F
If
we
had
a
maintenance
facility
that
we
recreated
and
it
certainly
be
a
lot
cheaper
than
continuing
to
fix
the
monstrosity,
that's
there
now
the
district
yachts
could
be
redone
and
if
they
were
redone
properly,
you
could
have
public
works,
obviously
Parks
Department
code
enforcement
and
then
and
then
actually
traffic
enforcement
officers
and
reporting
to
district
yachts,
and
my
thought
behind
that
has
always
been.
You
know
as
a
district
five
city
councilor,
if
I
call
for
say
for
parking
issue.
F
If,
if
traffic
enforcement
officers
have
to
leave
frontage
road
to
get
to
High
Park
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning,
good
luck,
good
luck!
It's
gonna
take
your
now
and
a
half
and
by
the
time
they
get
there,
everybody
who
was
illegally
parked.
It's
probably
gonna,
be
moved
and
it's
just
it's
it's
too
much
time
traveling
and
if,
but
if
you
had
traffic
enforcement
officers
or
code
enforcement
officers,
BTD
parks,
as
well
as
Public
Works,
were
reporting
to
a
direct
yard.
F
A
really
nice
facility,
that
was
you,
know,
upgraded
with
electronics
and
and
top
to
the
top
of
the
line.
We'd
have
a
much
better
basic
city
services
team.
It
would
be
easier
in
the
people
and
you
know
nobody
couldn't
speak
to
it
better
than
Mike.
Can
you
know
we
have
our
contractors
come
in
to
snow?
F
You
know
we
give
them
snow
maps
and
with
highlighters,
and
we
try
to
get
them
to
go
where
they
want,
because
you
can't
say:
hey,
you
know,
go
pass,
stop
and
shop
and
then
and
then
they
say
we're
stop
and
shop
I'm
from
Peabody.
You
know,
but
if
the
guys
in
and
the
women
of
the
basic
city
services
team
are
always
in
that
same
neighborhood,
they
know
that
neighborhood
better
than
anybody
and
then
they
they
give
better
service.
So
that's
just
a
little.
F
My
little
on
the
soapbox
there
I
apologize
but
I
think
it's
a
tremendous
opportunity,
a
couple
questions
regarding
the
site
itself.
As
counsel
was
stated,
you
know
the
thought
of
shrinking
that
site
down
and
built
and
rebuilding.
There
might
not
be
a
bad
idea,
something
because
of
its
central
location.
What
happens
to
the
the
clinic
so.
B
F
And
then,
secondly,
as
far
as
the
the
citywide
toll
lot
would
go,
how
would
that?
How
would
we
work
that
out
if,
if
you
shrunk
down
the
that
Lodi
area
and,
as
you
said
most
of
it's
used
for
cars,
which
you
build
a
parking
garage
like
a
modern
garage
that
would
house
more
cars
in
a
shorter
small
areas
that
we'd
try
to
do.
B
Now,
that's
only
be
one
of
the
things
they
could
take
a
look
at
one
of
the
things
which
you
know
in
part
for
the
tow
lot,
but
actually
in
many
ways,
much
more
for
the
city
fleet.
Structured
parking
actually
has
a
lot
of
advantages,
just
in
reducing
the
overall
wear
and
tear
and
extending
the
useful
life
of
our
vehicles.
So
there's
potentially
some
good
financial
payback
of
structured
parking.
I
realize
that's
an
odd
thing
to
say
other
conversations,
but
it's
but
it's
something
which
we
it's
useful
for
us
to
to
dive
into.
Okay,
great.
F
You
know
I
really,
you
know
I
will
keep
a
close
eye
on
the
on
the
process,
but
you
know
that
that
I,
as
I
stated
to
begin
I,
really
believe
that
we
should
have
a
little
bit
of
a
road
trip
over
there
and
and
let
the
counselors
see
it's
awful
I
mean
if
you
think
City
Hall
is
bad.
It's
got
nothing
on
City
Hall,
that's
for
sure,
so,
yeah
I
look
forward
to
the
process,
we'll
see
where
coach
thanks
chief
Thank.
I
Our
only
quibble
with
the
previous
speakers
final
line
about
City
Hall
being
bad
I
adore
this
beautiful
brutalist
piece
of
Arts
wanted
to.
Thank
you.
I
apologize
for
my
tardiness
today,
we'll
have
gone
through.
The
PowerPoint
presentation
will
review
the
tape
from
earlier,
but
just
wanted
to
echo
sentiments
made
by
all
three
of
my
colleagues,
starting
with
councillor
McCarthy
I.
I
Twenty
years
ago,
I
interned
in
this
very
body
for
former
at-large
council,
remember
going
to
frontage
road
then,
and
the
physical
plant
was
dilapidated
then,
and
that
was
20
years
ago,
and
and
despite
that,
the
men
and
women
who
work
there
have
done
some
remarkable
stuff,
but
it
it
it's.
It's
not
a
healthy
conducive
place
to
work.
It
needs
a
lot
of
help.
We
have
continuously
put
money
into
it.
So
I
celebrate
this
opportunity.
I,
you
all
are
going
about
it.
The
right
way.
I
I'd
also
agree
with
the
chairs
remarks
that
it
is
vital
that
the
council
continue
to
play
a
role
in
this
process.
So
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
and
hope
that,
as
we
go
forward,
we'll
continue
to
not
only
have
a
seat
at
the
table,
but
really
work
collaboratively,
but
this
could
be
a
remarkable
opportunity
for
our
city
for
being
innovative
being
thoughtful,
as
it
relates
to
climate
change
and
buildings,
I
will
be
pushing
for
if
a
new
building
is
indeed,
our
new
facility
is
built
there
that
we
get
to
a
Net
Zero
Carbon
place.
I
That's
something
that
we
can
do
that
we
ought
to
really
be
considering.
There
is
a
lot
of
land
there
and
I
think
that
we
should
absolutely
entertain
the
disposition
process.
There
could
be
a
way
to
build
something
new
and
innovative
at
little
cost
to
the
taxpayer
offset
some
of
the
cost
with
what
selling
some
of
the
surplus
land,
because
it
is
such
a
mammoth
piece
of
real
estate,
so
I
I,
don't
have
any
questions
other
than
to
say.
I
This
really
represents
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
for
not
only
creating
a
more
efficient
work
place
to
make
sure
that
we
can
serve
our
residents
and
our
constituents
with
the
exceptional
service
that
you
all
have
delivered,
while
at
the
same
time,
being
financially
responsible
and
perhaps
even
turning
a
profit
for
the
city
of
Boston,
so
I
will
continue
to
be
engaged
in
this
process
and
I
look
forward
to
the
weeks
and
months
ahead.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Thank.
A
You
councillor
Malley,
so
just
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
more
into
the
idea
that
there
are
kind
of
multiple
goals
and
moving
pieces
is
the.
Are
you
saying
that,
in
order
to
move
towards
revitalization
and
potential
consolidation
or
improvement,
you
know
has
to
be
better
of
the
city
services
that
we
need
funding
from
the
sale
to
be
able
to
afford
to
do
that?
Or
could
that
piece
come
first
separate
from?
And
it
sounds
like
there's
urgency
to
do
that
anyway,
separate
from
the
actual
disposition,
so.
B
It
is
not
I
would
say
it's
not
a
requirement,
but
it
is
a
compelling
opportunity,
so
the
reality
is
obviously
we
need
to
reinvest.
We
can
reduce
our
footprint.
You
can
actually
fund
that
reinvestment
or
protects
the
a
portion
of
that
reinvestment
by
thinking
about
how
that
development
can
help
support
that.
So
that
is.
That
is
why
these
two
things
were
sort
of
in
many
ways
and
something
apart,
some
linked
together,
but.
B
So
I
will
wait
for
Justin's
stare
to
yell
something
from
over
and
look
at
the
kind
of
it.
But
you
know
we
these
things
at
the
end
of
the
day,
to
your
point
they
are.
There
is
a
separate
effort,
but
we
want
to
pursue
them
in
a
parallel
track
because
we
think
that's
probably
the
best
route
for
the
taxpayer,
so
that
is.
That
is
a
way
that
we
can
actually
do
this
without
crowding
out
other
things
from
our
from
our
capital
budget,
which
is
already
pretty
constrained,
and
that's
why
these
things
were
moving
together.
B
That
said,
if
the
most
compelling
opportunity
that
that
comes
out
of
the
broad
RFP
process
is
something
which
does
not
cover
the
costs
that
it
needs
for
us
to
keep
providing
basic
city
services
until
Justin
sort
of
voices,
his
veto,
like
I,
you
know
I
think
we're.
Basically,
you
know
we
will
find
a
way
to
ensure
that
we're
delivering
great
basic
city
services
and
doing
something
that
really
works
for
the
city
and
for
the
neighborhoods
with
this
parcel.
So.
A
Helpful
to
know
that
there's
not
pressure
on
other
parts
of
the
budget,
but
not
necessarily
that
you
need
to
achieve
a
certain
level
of
funding
in
order
to
do
the
public
services
side.
That's
right,
okay
and
then
just
in
terms
of
location,
do
you
have
any
cost
estimates
for
the
six
alternatives
that
were
explored
so.
B
B
So
all
within
a
somewhat
comparable
range
I
would
want
to
say
that
again
those
six
alternatives,
the
intent
was
proof
feasibility.
That
is
worth
it
for
us
to
go
the
actual
like
site,
selection
process
or
design
programming.
All
all
that
is
that
phase
2a,
which
we
will
then
get
to
actual
locations,
actual
footprints
actual
numbers,
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
yeah.
B
Yep,
so
the
the
mechanics
will
be
something
which
would
be
led
essentially
by
Tricia's
team,
but
in
collaboration
with
us,
which
we
would
engage,
a
party
would
be
a
site,
selection,
programming
and
design
process.
That
is
certainly
a
public
process.
It
would
engage
all
of
you
and
figuring
out.
Where
can
we
do
sort
of
two
key
things?
Where
can
we
deliver
great
basic
city
services
and
be
a
great
neighbor?
Those
are
the
two
things
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
this
process,
and
that
is
going
to
be
critical
for
for
that.
B
So
we
want
to
dive
into
the
details
of
how
do
we
create
great
operational
synergies,
build
the
right
type
of
environments
and
find
the
right
locations
in
neighborhoods
that
have
good
neighborhood
conversations
to
make
sure
that
what
we
are
building
and
where
we
are
building
make
a
lot
of
sense.
I
would
also
note
that
you
know
in
the
six
alternatives
that
were
explored.
B
Four
of
them
do
have
some
portion
of
the
frontage
road
site
remaining,
has
a
portion
of
this
that
which
would
probably
have
a
little
bit
less
of
a
community
process,
because
right
now
it
is
the
existing
use,
but
we
would
actually
want
to
be
able
to
engage
Joseph's
lenses,
I
mean
largely
your
positions
and
then
the
frontage
road
conversation
and
all
of
your
constituents
and
thinking
about
if
we
went
with
a
more
decentralized
model.
So.
A
So
the
two-way
does
not
depend
on
the
parcel
being
surplus,
then
right
in
in
terms
in
some
ways,
because
this
is
a
conversation
with
city
services
that
has
to
happen
anyway.
The
administration
cannon
probably
is
already
proceeding
with
thinking
about
funding,
that's
necessary
and
for
the
design
and
consultant
to
come
in
and
all
that
yeah.
B
A
B
A
A
Okay,
but
just
understand
it
because
we've
already
approved
the
budget
for
this
fiscal
year
if
it
needs
to
be
moved
around
all
right
and
then
to
be
the
actual
development
process.
So
again,
can
we
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
timing
of
surplus
coming
first
versus
RFP
in
some
of
the
previous
hearing
surplus
hearings
that
we've
had,
for
example,
have
been
told
that
the
city
has
moved
forward
with
certain
RFPs
without
the
surplus
vote
taking
place
prior
to
that,
for
example,
with
plan
Dudley
assume.
B
I
sense
and
Heather,
you
can
certainly
weigh
on
us
that
the
the
preferences
are
procedurally
is
to
surplus
before
the
RFP
and
one
of
the
values
of
doing
that,
as
it
gives
a
greater
degree
of
certainty
to
RFP
respondents,
we
think
will
simply
get
better
as
if
they
know
with
a
degree
of
certainty
to
something.
With
this
the
city,
the
council
are
serious
about
exploring.
So
that
is
a
I
think
a
benefit
that
we
would
see
by
taking
the
surplus
action
at
at
this
point
prior
to
the
RFP
rather
than
post.
A
A
Is
there
any
thought,
I
mean
I,
guess
going
back
to
the
idea
that
we're
learning
from
Winthrop
Square
in
that
process
at
certain
points
in
that
process,
it
did
feel
that,
because
a
developer,
a
specific
developer
was
already
chosen
and
involved
before
all
of
the
sort
of
procedural
pieces
were
resolved,
that
that
added
different
pressures
and
different
opportunities
for
community
feedback
and
engagement.
A
my
concern
with
again
doing
the
RFP.
A
This
way
before
everything
is
sort
of
planned
out
to
a
certain
degree
of
specificity
is
that
we
lose
out
on
the
guarantee
that
there
will
be
a
certain
number
of
amount
of
open
space,
the
guarantee
that
there
will
be
a
certain
number
of
units
of
affordable
housing
and
we
sort
of
leave
it
to
the
developers
to
suggest
that
as
part
of
their
you
know
the
attractiveness.
But
there
is
no
kind
of
proactive
way
to
specify
what
the
Civic
benefit
should
be
coming
out
of
that
it.
C
Might
be
helpful
if
I
could
just
run
through
sort
of
what
our
anticipated
timeline
is
and
sort
of
where
their
opportunities
for
engagement,
both
from
the
council
and
also
constituents
and
members
of
the
public.
So
obviously
the
surplus
vote
is
what
we're
asking
for
now.
We
would
then
propose
to
work
on
a
draft
memorandum
of
agreement
with
the
city
between
the
city
and
the
Boston
planning
and
development
agency.
That
action
would
need
to
go
to
our
board
of
directors
prior
to
execution.
C
So
that's
obviously
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
formally
weigh
in
either
verbally
or
in
writing.
We
would
then
execute
the
MOA.
We
obviously
have
experience
having
done
that
through
the
Winthrop
square
process,
so
we're
not
working
from
scratch
there
and
I
think
people
were
sort
of
pleased
with
how
that
agreement
was
structured.
Initially,
we
would
then
go
to
the
BPD
a
board
for
authorization
to
issue
the
RFP.
C
This
would
be
prior
to
the
public
facilities
process,
and
so
the
goal
here
I
think
would
be
to
have
the
selection
process
take
place
before
public
facilities
so
that
when
it
goes
for
about
two
public
facilities,
we
have
an
idea
of
to
your
point.
Counselor,
who
the
development
team
is
what
the
project
proposal
is,
what
the
benefits
are
and
just
sort
of
a
better
understanding,
all-around
of
what
we're
hoping
to
see
on
the
site
and
so
I
think
sort
of
having
the
process
go
in.
A
That's
the
exact
same
order
as
Winthrop
Square
right,
correct,
okay,
with
the
same
exact
opportunities
for
a
feedback
or
not
feedback
from
the
council.
It's
a
same
process,
you're
imagining
for
RFPs
and
choosing
one
developer
or
one
idea,
one
concept
and
moving
forward
after
then
workshopping
that,
basically
the
exact
same
correct:
okay,
yes,
okay,
any
further
questions
from
my
colleagues,
penciler
Flynn.
G
G
Therefore,
you
know
because
it
impacts
almost
my
entire.
My
entire
district
I
would
like
to
you
know,
be
a
key
player
as
it
relates
to
working
closely
with
you,
my
colleagues,
keeping
my
constituents
and
councillors
aware
of
the
site.
Progress
and
development
I
think
it's
important
that
I
play
a
key
role
working
closely
with
you
as
the
district
city
councilor.
So
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
advice
or
suggestions
about
my
my
comments.
B
B
We
will
not
move
forward
with
a
development
if
we
don't
have
a
great
basic
city
services
plan.
There
was
not
a
sort
of
other
use
of
Winthrop
Square,
and
so
there
is
a
very
large
role
that
the
council
is
playing
in
this
process
on
the
basic
city
services
side,
which
in
many
ways
is
the
key
companion
process
to
actually
any
sort
of
transformation
on
the
through
the
DPD.
A
and
RFP
process,
which
is
important
and
I
do
think.
B
You
know
you'd
agree
that,
with
the
Winthrop
square
process,
we
are
able
to
invest
in
an
Old
Colony
in
Franklin
Park
in
a
number
of
parks
that
dump
the
done
across
the
city
and
that
it
has
been
a
good
example
of
how
a
public
asset
can
actually
yield
some
greater
public
benefits
through
a
public
process.
That
was
that
was
led
by
the
VP
da.
G
Heather
I
just
want
to
stress
that
this
is
important
to
me.
It's
important
to
my
district
that
I
would
need
to
be
updated,
be
briefed
as
often
as
possible
on
what's
happening
in
in
my
district.
I
also
have
an
obligation
to
inform
my
counselors
and
other
other
constituents
as
well,
but
you
know,
I
would
like
to
play
a
key
role
in
the
dialogue
and
working
closely
with
you
and
that's
something
I
would
I
would
take
very
seriously
absolutely.
C
G
C
I
can
speak
to
that
so
once
we
receive
the
responses
to
the
RFP,
those
will
immediately
go
on
our
website,
so
they
will
be
available
for
the
public
to
view
similar
to
what
we
do
with
Winthrop
Square.
We
held
a
series
of
open
houses
and
obviously
allowed
for
any
interested
constituents,
neighborhood
groups
etc
to
come
in
and
see
their
proposals
and
weigh
in
and
give
feedback
to
our
staff.
C
C
That's
that's
well
noticed
and
that
people
are
able
to
sort
of
comment
on
in
writing,
etc,
but
we
anticipate
are
very
thorough,
an
open
process
leading
up
to
any
selection.
That
would
include
conversations
with
the
council
and
constituents,
as
I
mentioned
once
a
designation
is
made
that
developer
would
need
to
go
through
article
80,
large
project
review,
so
I
think
the
three
of
you
have
certainly
weighed
in
on
projects
in
your
time
here,
you're
familiar
with
the
process,
but
a
letter
of
intent
would
be
filed.
C
Meeting
with
neighborhood
groups,
discussions
with
the
impact
advisory
group
regarding
impacts
and
mitigation
and
the
like,
so
that
process
will
play
out
as
any
other
project
in
and
around
the
city
that
triggered
large
project
review
would
and
would
need
a
vote
from
the
BP
BPD
a
board
ultimately
as
well
that
BPD
a
board
meeting
that
agenda
item
would
more
likely
than
not
actually
be
a
public
hearing.
Given
the
size
and
scope
of
this
project
in
the
potential
zoning
mechanism
that
may
be
used.
C
So
there
would
be
another
formal
opportunity
for
people
to
actually
come
and
speak
to
our
board
and
provide
formal
feedback
and
then
post
BPD
a
board,
presumably
a
Zoning
Commission
action,
which
that
would
be
its
own
public
hearing
as
well.
So
there
are
multiple
opportunities,
both
formally
and
informally,
for
both
the
council
to
weigh
in
and
also
members
of
the
public
to
weigh
in
engage
with
our
staff
and
give
feedback.
And
so
and
we
look
forward
to
that
process
and
our
staff
is
obviously
well
versed
in
in
that
regard.
C
G
Then
the
final
question
I
had
Mike
I
know
the
principle.
Salt
pile
is
that
furniture
owed
when,
when
that
is
moved
or
eventually
moved
what
what
impact
will
it
have
or
what?
What
are
you
thinking
about
in
terms
of
locating
the
salt
pile
to
another
location
that
makes
it
easy
for
every
neighborhood
to
access?
It
sure.
H
So
currently,
right
now
in
that
footprint,
when
we
start
filling
it
up,
which
gets
to
17,000
tons
by
1st
of
October,
that
pile
to
your
point
hits
South
Boston
hits
the
south
end
hits
Charlestown
hits
Chinatown
its
Back
Bay,
Bay,
Village
portions
of
Melanie
HS,
and
also
some
of
our
citywide
thoroughfares,
the
dot
Ave.
May
we
call
the
main
routes,
but
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
concern
of
where
that
pile
goes.
H
H
We
don't
need
front-end
loaders,
that's
one
less
heavy
machinery
that
we
have
to
staff
in
account
for
if
you'd
actually
be
dispersed
that
way,
but
through
this
process
my
chief
concern
is
just
that
question
and
we
will
not
provide
a
weaker
service
when
it
comes
to
those
four
to
five
months
of
the
year.
It'll
be
a
main
point
in
I.
Guess
my
small
role
in
this
thank.
G
You
thank
you
Michael
and
I.
Guess
just
my
final
question
sort
of
asking
so
many
questions,
but
on
to
Commissioner,
do
you
have
any
comments
on
you
know
during
this
process?
What
impact
will
transportation
play
as
we
navigate
trucks
coming
in
to
frontage,
road
and
leaving
frontage
road,
and
how
are
we
going
to?
G
You
know
notify
the
neighborhood
of
what
changes
are
taking
place
as
it
relates
to
traffic?
Are
we
able
to
if
trucks
are
going
into
frontage
road
frequently
and
then
throughout
the
neighborhoods?
Are
we
able
to
take
a
look
at
what
roads
these
trucks
will
travel
and
maybe
decreasing
the
speed
limit
of
trucks,
while
they're
passing
through
the
neighborhood
or
just
long-term
planning
or
thinking
on
your
behalf
of
of
what
what
you
expect.
D
In
terms
of
you
know,
whatever
happens
to
it,
if
there
is
a
construction
phase
with
traffic
management
plans,
certainly
minimize
the
disruption
to
the
community
and
to
the
general
public,
both
with
the
the
weight
and
the
size
of
the
vehicles
and
identified
routes
that
would
be
safe
both
for
the
operators
of
those
vehicles
and
folks
working
on
the
site,
as
well
as
the
residents
and
the
general
public.
That
also
need
to
navigate
those
roadways.
D
F
Just
a
couple
of
things
just
to
kind
of
wrap
up
on
the
on
the
best
practices
slide.
Is
there
a
chance?
I
can
get
a
list
of
like
the
facilities
you
looked
at
just
because
you
know
I
like
to
get
my
hands
on
things.
They've
done.
Secondly,
when
you
go
ahead
through
the
first
process,
are
you
you
taking
them
both
as
one
huge
lot?
Four
hundred
and
then
two
hundred
and
three
hundred
or
you
are
you?
Are
you
separating
them,
the
yellow
and
the
red
like
you're
doing
now,
just
to
show?
F
Where
is
that
I,
just
yeah
cuz
I,
like
I,
look
at
it
and
I'm
thinking
in
my
own
my
own
mind
if
you
built
your
new
facility
at
200
and
300
correct
weight
if
you
move
Commission
fee
and
docket
stuff
over
to,
and
then
you
moved
it
back
when
it
was
completed,
then
you'd
you,
you
wouldn't
have
enough
upgrades.
You
didn't
have
a
any
lapse
of
service
and
then
you'd
be
able
to
move
400
frontage
roads
through.
B
The
northern
end
has
it
probably
has
again
that
transit
accessibility
that
link
between
heads-
it
is
also
the
building
which
is
has
some
more
inefficient
spaces
and
is
has
more
structural
concerns.
The
southern
end
is
one
experiencing
currently
some
flooding
and
some
on
some
serious
operational
limitations
in
terms
of
just
the
available
space,
yeah.
F
Yeah
he
counts
the
Flynn
tastic.
The
question
that
I
was
gonna.
Ask
42
with
the
salt
pot.
I
mean,
will
probably
go
to
societal
some
point.
But
again,
if
we
sunk
the
money
into
our
district
as
we'd
be
able
to
have
bigger
salt
shows
than
a
district
yeah
gee,
maybe
it'll,
take
that
pile
down
for
a
decent
percentage
1/2.
So
it's
gonna
be
interesting
path.
Thanks,
counsel,
Thank,.
A
B
B
B
I
mean
I
think
actually
there's
a
really
interesting
opportunity
to
think
about.
Obviously,
as
you
know,
we
are
doing
a
stretch
in
the
South
Bay
Harbor
trail
right
now,
which
is
actually
would
be
adjacent
to
this
parcel
and
the
crossings
of
the
West
4th
Street
and
the
travela
Street
bridges,
and
then
the
sort
of
the
connection
up
towards
the
Gillette
site.
I.
B
Think,
though,
that
we
have
a
really
interesting
opportunity
here
to
think
about
what
that
Albany
Street
to
frontage
road
to
South,
Boston
connection
looks
like
if
you
thought
about
that
personal
different
way,
and
that
parcel
was
a
parcel.
It
was
permeable
as
opposed
to
what
it
is
today,
where
members
of
the
public
can't
release,
of
course,
through
an
active.
A
C
A
And
then
just
one
last
question
on
the
timing
of
council,
council
and
surplus
votes,
so
legally
the
council
wouldn't
need
to
I
mean
you've
expressed
a
preference
for
greater
certainty
to
have
this
done
before
the
RFP
goes
out,
but
legally
the
council
would
not
need
to
surplus
until
right
before
the
public
facilities.
Commission
vote
is
that
correct.
B
Over
diverted
a
lot
of
our
and
as
you
know
that,
rather
than
sort
of
my
sort
of
a
look,
the
reason,
though
we
are
pursuing
this
approach,
is
that
we
think,
as
a
number
of
just
benefits,
it's
the
preferred
procedure
from
our
law
department.
It
does
offer
that
public
transparency
and
internal
transparency
about
what
we're
doing,
and
we
think
it
gives
greater
certainty
to
the
public
RFP
process
and,
frankly,
we
know
that
we
want
to
move
on
the
basic
city
services
side
we.
This
is.
B
C
Other
paradigm,
yeah
I,
think
so
back
to
your
earlier
question,
counselor
about
the
dudley
parcels.
My
understanding
is
the
only
parcel
that
was
not
surplus
was
the
municipal
lot
and
that's
due
to
the
fact
that
it
has
different
regulations
for
the
parking
facilities
board,
so
I
think
the
other.
The
other
parcels
have
RFPs
have
not
gone
out
and
the
one
that
was
not
surplus
is
a
municipal
lot
and
that
obviously
has
its
own
sort
of
regulations
and
process
that
needs
to
occur,
which
sort
of
prevented
the
surplus
from
taking
place.
Okay,.
A
What
civic
amenity
is
what
Civic
benefits
we
want
to
guarantee
coming
out
of
that
we're
in
the
midst
of
this
housing
crisis,
we're
in
the
midst
of
the
opiate
crisis.
We
are
in
the
midst
of
a
traffic
and
transportation,
growing
challenge
that
all
those
pieces
have
to
be
lined
up,
I
think
from
the
in
in
the
eyes
of
the
the
public.
Before
we
move
to
engaging
a
specific
developer,
that's
my
general
feedback.
Obviously
you
know
there
are
many
other
councillors
here,
so
unless
you
all
have
any
responses
or
other
comments,
I
think
we're
good.