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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on August 16, 2021
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Docket #0594 - Petition for a special law re: An Act Relative to Certain
Affordable Housing in the Jamaica Plain Section of the City of Boston
A
Cbha
is
here,
and
I
think
we
have
an
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
the
hearing
with
an
opening
statement,
and
hopefully
I
can
get
my
technical
difficulties
settled.
Can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,.
A
Yes,
that's
intentional
until
I
can
figure
out
what
what
is
going
on
so
good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
city,
council,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
monday
august
16,
2021
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
05494
addition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
relative
to
certain
affordable
housing
in
the
jamaica
plains,
section
of
the
city
of
boston.
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
acting
mayor
janie
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
government
operations
on
april
28
2021..
A
In
accordance
with
the
chapter
20
of
the
acts
of
2021.
We
are
having
this
hearing
via
zoom.
This
is
to
help
us
balance.
The
public
health
needs
of
the
moment
also,
but
also
with
the
ability
to
do
our
jobs.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
dash,
council
tv
and
on
xfinity
8,
rcna,
2
and
verizon
964a
will
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
A
A
The
mildred
c
haley
development
is
severely
distressed
and
bha
has
filed,
and
the
city
has
approved
similar
legislation
for
the
whittier
street
for
orient
heights
in
east
boston,
for
bromley,
heath
for
mission,
maine
for
orc,
gardens
for
maverick
gardens
for
west
broadway,
broadway
homes,
old
colony,
west,
washington,
beach
and
franklin
hill.
So
this
is
a
typical
home
rule
petition
that
we've
often
done
for
other
neighborhoods.
At
previous
hearings,
bha
representatives
explained
that
some
relief
from
the
requirements
of
chapter
149
would
result
in
cost
savings.
A
So
we
have,
I
believe,
not
only.
We
are
joined
today
by
joel
wolf
from
the
boston
housing
authority.
We're
also
joined
again
by
my
colleagues,
councilor
matt
o'malley
councilor,
ed
flynn
and
councillor
liz
braden,
I'm
going
to.
If
I,
I
believe
counselor
flynn,
then
counselor
braden
and
council
o'malley,
I'm
sorry
if
I
got
the
the
order
incorrect,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead.
Allow
for
my
college
to
do
some
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
the
administration.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
edwards.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
bha
team.
That's
here.
I
support
this.
I
know
the
incredible
role
bha
plays
in
our
city
and
this
home
rule
petition
will
help
us
move
in
that
direction.
To
make
sure
the
residents
of
the
of
this
development
in
jamaica,
plain
receive.
Decent
housing
at
mildwood
hailey
also
want
to
recognize
our
colleague,
matt
o'malley,
who
has
done
exceptional
work
as
well
at
this
location.
C
I'm
proud
just
proud
to
support
this
home
rule
and
thank
you
to
everyone
here
for
providing
strong
leadership
on
this.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
actually
got
the
order
incorrect.
It
was
counselor
o'malley,
then
counselor
flynn
and
councillor
braden,
so
councilor
o'malley.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
No
problem
at
all.
Thank
you,
counselor
flynn,
for
your
kind
words,
and
I
know
council
braden
as
well.
This
is
obviously
easy.
It
is
so
it's
just.
D
D
What
we're
talking
about
today
is
going
to
really
help
facilitate
something
that
will
be
life-changing
not
only
for
the
neighborhood
of
jamaica
plain
but
for
the
city
of
boston,
as
we
talk
about
an
incredible
partnership
with
jpndc,
with
urban
edge
with
tcb
and,
of
course,
with
bha,
so
to
see
some
real
incredible
support
and
redevelopment,
and
just
making
sure
that
we
have
safe,
clean,
wonderful
places
to
support
this
community.
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
mildred
haley.
I
started.
D
I
continued
a
a
weekly
hot
dog
nights
during
the
summer
that
former
representative
jeff
sanchez
had
begun.
Sadly,
we've
slowed
those
down
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
it's
just
a
wonderful
wonderful
place,
and
I
know
that
sheila
dillon
and
her
entire
team
have
just
and
just
everyone
at
bha,
kate,
bennett,
everyone
down.
The
line
have
been
so
supportive
of
this
incredible
institution.
D
I'm
just
really
happy
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
to
the
next
level
and
to
get
to
this
full
renovation,
the
one
well,
I
have
one
question
I'll
get
to
when
we
get
to
the
q
a
but
otherwise.
Thank
you
joel
and
thank
you
dean
for
your
great
partnership
as
well.
B
Sorry,
madam
chair,
I
I've
had
to
jump
off
briefly
for
a
ticket
called
so
I'll
wave
my
time
right
now.
Thank
you.
A
No
problem,
so
I
think
I've
I've
gone
through
the
counselors,
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
administration
and
then
we'll
just
go
through
a
round
of
questions
from
the
from
from
the
counselors.
Just
for
on
record.
Just
for
me
to
note
I'm
highly
supportive
of
this.
I
think
this
is
similar
to
the
process
we
did
for
bunker
hill.
A
I
don't
know
if
I
mentioned
that
bunker
hill
is
the
largest
housing
development
in
new
england
and
something
I've
supported
before
so
I
I
intend
to
support
this
as
well.
I'll
turn
it
over
now
to
the
administration
to
joe
will
from
bha.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
council,
o'malley
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
so
much
members
council,
thank
you
so
much
and
I'm
joined
so
joel
will,
chief
of
staff
at
the
bha
and
I'm
joined
by
dean,
papa
dimitrio,
our
assistant
general
counsel,
who's
worked
on
numerous.
I
I
think
you
did
madam
chair
list.
A
number
of
the
the
past
petitions
and
related
efforts
and
dean
has
probably
worked
on
all
of
them.
So
is
there
any
technical
questions
about
the
the
procurement
piece
of
it
certainly
happen
to
turn
over
there
thanks.
E
Also
council
o'malley
for
your
tireless
support
of
the
community
at
mildred
haley,
at
bromwy
heath
in
the
district
and
for
this
project
as
well.
Madam
chair,
I
think
you
did
go
through
the
purpose
and
intent
of
the
legislation.
I
just
want
to
mention
a
few
pieces
related
to
the
redevelopment
project.
E
Bha
is
seeking
to
move
forward
with
phase
one
of
the
mildred
haley
redevelopment
project.
This
would
cause
for
the
creation
of
673
homes
in
a
new
anime
coal
community
center.
For
those
of
you
who
are
not
from
or
representing
jamaica
plain
that
this
there's
a
there's
a
community
center
on
along
southwest
quarter
park
by
jackson
square,
it's
been
a
wonderful
facility.
It's
going
to
be
a
new
beautiful,
much
more
wonderful
facility
during
the
pandemic.
It's
also
served
as
a
kova
testing
site,
including
for
bha
staff.
E
I've
been
there
multiple
times
myself,
so
we've
made
use
of
it
and
in
the
in
the
redeveloped
community,
it's
going
to
continue
to
provide
a
strong
purpose
and
function
for
the
community.
This
project
is
exciting
for
a
number
of
reasons.
One
is
just-
and
I
couldn't
say
better
than
council
o'malley,
but
one
is
certainly
you
know.
Renewing
and
restoring
some
of
the
existing
public
housing
units.
E
253
units
will
be
replaced
on
a
one
for
one
basis,
as
is
the
basic
bhs
protocol
to
do
one-to-one
replacement
of
the
units
that
are
affordable
at
30
percent
of
income.
But
there's
also
going
to
be
420
new
units,
and
this
includes
some
middle
income
units
as
well.
So
it
will
serve
a
wide
range
of
incomes
and
redeveloped
property
that
this
phase,
one
that
doesn't
encompass
all
of
mildred
haley.
E
We
will
have
a
continued
conversation
about
what
will
happen
with
the
rest
of
the
units
with
the
rest
of
the
community,
but
this
is
the
intent
is
to
move
forward
with
what
has
been
approved
through
the
community
process
through
an
extensive
number
of
both
bha
resident,
as
well
as
epda
and
community-wide
meetings
and
move
forward
there
and,
as
mentioned
building
a
new
600
6800
square
foot
community
center,
there,
the
project
itself,
it's
a
partnership
of
multiple
entities,
dubs
center
street
partners,
that
includes
three
boston-based
non-profits
jpndc,
the
community
builders
and
urban
edge.
E
So
working
collaboratively
on
on
this
effort
and
and
with
the
bha
as
well
as
noted
by
the
chair
and
opening
remarks,
the
legislative
release
is
needed
from
chapter
149.
It's
some
what
antiquated
provisions
that
really
restricts
the
ability
to
move
forward
in
the
manner
that
is
best
suitable
in
this
process
and
and
as
noted,
it
often
restricts
the
bha
from
moving
forward
regardless
of
the
of
the
project
and
the
and
the
intent
afterwards.
The
the
state
law
just
provides
some
barriers
that
are,
unfortunately
do
increase
costs
and
reduce.
E
Most
notably,
the
legislative
relief
allows
us
to
avoid
what
would
be
delays
that
would
so
both
in
terms
of
pushing
the
project
forward
and
and
delaying
some
of
the
improvements
we
would
like
to
collaboratively
bring
to
the
site
in
addition
to
a
higher
higher
dollar
ticket
value.
On
that,
so
I
think
for
the
moment,
I
will
stop
there,
but
we
really
appreciate
the
council's
support.
During
my
time.
You
know:
staff
at
the
city
council.
A
Thank
you:
was
there
anyone
else
from
the
administration
or
were
they
available
just
for
for
questions
or
background.
A
Excellent
and
I
do
see
that
we've
been
joined
by
joanna
hines
joanna,
I
will
we'll
go
ahead
and
have
the
counselors
do
any
questions
that
they
have
and
we'll
just
go
straight
to
you
as
well.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
lower
your
hand,
but
I
do
see
you
okay,
so
for
counselors
I
will
start
an
order
of
arrival
for
any
questions
or
concerns
or
process
thoughts,
both
again
go
through
counselor
o'malley,
then
counselor
flynn
and
then
councillor
braden.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
No
questions
again
other
than
to
reaffirm
my
my
complete.
You
know
my
my
among
the
few
regrets
I
have
of
leaving
leaving
the
city
council
is,
I
won't
be
counselor
when
this
is
done,
but
certainly
we'll
be
there
as
a
as
a
citizen
of
district
six.
Now
the
plan
all
along-
as
I
think
you
articulated
joel
and
for
those
watching,
is
that
we're
going
to
sort
of
rebuild
these
in
phase
this
is
gonna.
D
The
whole
project
is
going
to
take
probably
a
10
or
so
years
on
top
of
what
we've
been
waiting,
but
the
thought
all
along
was
to
start
with
the
anime
call
center,
because
people
don't
live
there
and
then
we
could
eventually
use
that
for
staging
rebuilding
and
allow
folks,
when
we
begin
to
take
down
some
of
the
buildings
so
that
they
can
remain
on
site
in
newer,
cleaner,
better,
better
apartments,
but
obviously
the
anime
call
center
as
you've
referenced
has
been
such
a
resource
during
this
pandemic.
D
It's
been,
it's
been
a
very
active
and
well
used
site.
Mildred
haley
is
not
quite
the
geographic
center
of
the
city,
but
it's
pretty
darn
close
to
it.
So
it's
easily
accessible.
It's
obviously
it's
a
place
where
I've
been
tested.
I
would
bet
15
or
20
times
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
and
I'm
curious
it.
It
would.
I
would
assume
every
time
I
get
tested
I'll
always
say
to
the
folks
who
work
there
you
know.
Are
you
is
this
gonna
be?
D
Are
you
gonna
still
be
open
next
month
and
they'll
say?
Well,
we
only
know
through
the
end
of
the
month,
so
they're
kind
of
they're
not
being
evasive.
I
think
it's
unclear,
but
one
would
think
that
the
testing
site
will
remain
for
a
while,
and
my
question
is:
is
that
going
to
delay
any
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
see
recognizing
there's
still
a
bunch
of
regulatory
steps
that
need
to
be
taken.
E
I,
I
would
admit,
counselor
we
re
we,
you
know
the
testing.
Obviously
operation
is
a
partnership
with
the
health
commission
and
other
entities
we
we
get.
You
know
we
certainly
get
updates
when
it's
extended,
because
it
serves
a
lot
of
dha
staff.
I
do
not
believe
any
testing
operation
would
delay
this
project.
I
think,
if
needed,
we
will
work
with
and
I'll
and
I'll
defer
as
far
as
to
the
testing
operation,
but
I
don't
think
that
that
piece
of
it
would
delay.
I
think
we
would
we
would
work
with
we.
E
We
would
work
with
the
administration
with
the
health
commission
partners
to
make
sure
that
other
resources
were
available
yeah,
but
I'm
happy
to
also
discuss
that
with
igr
and
and
other
folks.
D
Yeah
and
again,
I
don't
think
that
I,
I
guess
my
point
is:
I
would
assume
that
we
will
continue
testing
for
quite
a
while
and
again
there
are
still
several
regulatory
steps
that
need
to
be
taken
before
it's
closed
down,
but
I
do
think
just
you
know,
thinking
out
loud
during
this
hearing.
D
D
So
that
would
be
my
my
suggestion
if
we
do
have
to
close
it,
because
I
don't
my
my
point
is
I
don't
want
to
see
delay
of
this
project
this
renovation,
when
I
think
there
could
be
other
resources,
but
I
also
want
to
maintain
a
testing
site
in
that
on
that
campus
or
close
to
it.
That's
all.
Thank
you,
joel.
Thank
you.
Dean
continue
the
great
work
anything
I
can
do
in
the
weeks
leading
up
to
happy
to
work.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councillor
flynn.
A
You
may
have
dropped
off
council
braden.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
more
of
a
process
question
in
terms
of
community
engagement.
How
are
the
residents
of
milbert
haley
involved
in
planning
this,
and
and
how
are
you
engaging
with
that
community.
E
Thank
you,
council
right
in
so
we've
had
an
extensive
number
of
community.
Well,
I
I
we
have.
We've
had
community
meetings,
particularly
with
the
residents
over
the
past
several
years,
between
the
bha
and
then
when
it
got
to
that
stage.
The
proposed
development
team
you
know
giving
proposed
plans
showing
that
there
have
also
that
is,
in
addition,
you
know
this
this
process
this,
so
we
had
sort
of
internal
if
you
will
bha
residence
resident
task
force
meetings
over
years,
the
past
several
years,
but
there
were
also
bpda
meetings.
E
In
addition
to
that,
so
I
would
say
that
that's
two
tracks
and
for
the
bha
we
do
intentionally
engage
our
residents
directly
and
to
do
that
in
this
case.
So
that's
about
what
I
can
say
and
I
I
do
I
you
know.
Council
maui
reminded
me
of
something
that
I
want
to
add
just
in
terms
of
because
one
of
the
things
people
you
know,
residents
often
do
want
to
see
improvements
to
their
sites,
their
homes
and
and
one
of
one
of
the
critical
things
is
well.
E
E
How
does
this
work
so
part
of,
as
I
just
mentioned
before,
one
of
the
things
that
always
comes
up
is
the
you
know
the
right
of
return
and
how
the
relocation
piece
works
so
part
of
the
intent
of
the
phased
nature
of
these
developments,
which
is
similar
to
how
we're
working
in
other
areas
is
to
is
to
preserve
that
thing
that
the
first
question
residents
are
mine
can,
if
I
you
know,
if
I
want
to
return,
can
I
can
I
come
back
how
so
again
to
the
to
the
to
your
colleague's
point
that
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
frequent
things
and,
of
course
well
as
well
as
the
design,
and
you
know
what
we
still
have
community
amenities
things
like
that,
so
that
that's
that's.
B
In
that,
no,
I
think
these
are.
These
are
closely
net
communities
and
they
do
want
to
stay
together.
They
don't
want
to
get
dispersed
to
the
four
winds
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
new
units
that
are
being
built
like
some
of
them
will
be
more.
B
What
sort
of
do
we
have
any
projections
on
the
the
price
points
in
terms
of
ami
in
those.
E
C
B
Not
to
worry
it's
just
to
get
some
sense
of
the
range
of
of
price
of
incomes
that
are
going
to
be
eligible
because
that's
where
we're
it's
really.
B
Yeah
very
good:
this
is
a
very
exciting
project
and
thank
you
for
all
the
great
work.
I
know
that
you're
you're
you're
working
across
the
city
and
trying
to
renovate
and
and
make
these
these
buildings
bring
them
up
to
up
to
up
to
speed
for
21st
century
challenges
like
climate
change,
etc.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
as
as
promised
joanna
if
you're
still
here,
joanna
hines,
I'm
gonna
put
you
over
to
should
be
good
to
speak
joanna.
G
I'm
here
I
just
okay,
okay,
thank
you.
You're
welcome
nice
to
see
you
counselor
edwards,
so
I
have
a
question
a
few.
I
was.
I
attended
some
of
these
meetings
earlier
in
the
year
over
zoom,
and
I
was
I
made
comments
about
the
tree,
canopy
loss.
I
believe
that
they're
taking
down
128
mature
trees-
and
it
just
strikes
me
as
so
there's
just
the
conflict
of
interest
here,
especially
given
the
ipcc
climate
report,
which
both
yourself
counselor
edwards
and
mr
malley
or
o'malley.
I'm
sorry.
G
I
didn't
see
your
name
responded
to
in
the
globe
maui
as
saying
we
no
longer
have
the
luxury
of
time
and
yourself
counselor
edward,
saying
that
today's
report
sent
chills
and
terror
through
you.
How
are
we
not
how?
Why
can't
can't
we
do
better?
G
So
I
guess
I'm
begging
the
city
and
the
people
that
represent
us
to
do
better
to
fight
for
the
rights
of
the
people,
the
right
to
breathe.
That
doesn't
mean
you
don't
have
affordable
housing,
but
we
can
do
better
and
rehabbing
buildings
is
one
way
to
do
better.
Not
only
does
that
help
save
the
trees,
but
it
also
reduces
the
footprint
in
terms
of
making
you
know
new
buildings
which
require
cement
and
steel,
both
of
which
are
huge
emitters
concrete.
G
G
You
know
ways
in
which
we
might
save
these
trees,
because
a
one-for-one
replacement
of
mature
trees
is
not
sufficient,
especially
when
those
trees
are
saplings,
and
you
know
how
I
feel
about
this
council
edwards
so
yeah
and
then
question-
and
this
is
something
that
I'm
trying
to
understand
across
the
city,
and
I
think
the
woman
and
again
I
didn't
write
down
your
name.
I'm
sorry
who
spoke
so
eloquently
before
me
about
the
ami
is
an
understanding
of
you
know.
G
It
was
always
called
deeply
affordable
and
now
there's
a
term
called
income
restricted
and
there's
a
huge
difference.
You
know
if
you're,
making
80
000
a
year,
I
I
think
you
should
have
an
opportunity
to
make
to
have
an
apartment
that
would
be
workforce,
but
that's
very
different
than
someone
who's
making
15.
G
and
what's
to
say
that
you
know
so,
if
everyone's
put
on
a
list
at
the
end
of
the
day,
a
bha
list,
the
bha
benefits
from
having
people
closer
to
the
80
000
than
the
15
000.
So
it
just
feels
like
this
there's
a
lack
of
clarity
that
a
term
that
was
understood
as
being
deeply
affordable
is
now
referred
to
in
many
cases
as
income
restricted
and
we're
losing
all
these
trees
and
it
just
I
it
it
actually
it
just
it
it
not
only
baffles
me.
G
It
breaks
my
heart
as
a
mom
and
a
resident,
because
I
you
know,
we
trust
you
guys
to
make
good
decisions
for
for,
for
our
not
only
our
for
our
physical
health
as
well.
As
you
know,
and
I
again,
I
don't
think
it's
ever
been
a
question
of
housing
or
trees.
I
think
we're
just
not
being
creative
enough
and
we're
letting
developers
get
away
with
too
much.
So
what
can
you
do
to
save
these
trees?
G
Let's
save
our
city?
Let's
save
some
of
these
trees.
It's
hot
there's
floods.
We're
going
to
be
inundated
with
all
sorts
of
climate.
You
know
catastrophes
we
need
these
trees,
you
can't
get
them
back.
They
were
there
before
a
lot
of
the
sidewalks
you'll,
never
get
them
back,
not
like
they
are
today
not
in
our
lifetime.
A
Thank
you.
No
thank
you.
So
if
I
don't
know
counselor
o'malley
and
then
I
I
would
also
like
to
I'll
address
some
of
the
comments.
D
Yeah,
no
thank
you.
Madam
chair.
You
know
I'd
certainly
invite
miss
hines
to
observe
alberto
2.0
working
session
next
week.
I
don't
think
anyone
can
question
the
bona
fides
that
this
council
and
my
committee
quite
frankly,
have
put
forth
on
resiliency.
D
Nor
could
we
question
our
commitment
to
deeply
affordable
housing
and
what
is
needed.
I
would
also
you
know,
invite
anyone
to
when
it's
hopefully
safe
to
do
so,
particularly
those
who
live
in
jamaica,
plain
and
it's
one
thing
that
we
really
made
a
big
push
in
getting
folks
who
may
not
have
spent
any
time
in
mildred,
haley
or
bromley
heath
before
that
to
get
involved
with
some
of
our
our
wonderful
mothers
groups,
parents
group
there
to
get
involved
with
some
of
the
hot
dog
nights.
D
It's
a
wonderful
community
and
the
folks
that
live
there
deserve
better
housing
than
what
they
have
they've
been
for.
For
those
that
may
not
know
it's
it's.
There
are
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
physical
plant.
It's
cold.
It's
imposing
it's
those
large
towers
that
were
built
as
affordable
housing,
sort
of
on
trend
in
the
1960s
and
the
plan
that
we're
going
to
do
here
is
absolutely
going
to
be
life-changing
and
I
believe,
joel
because
of
the
work
that
we'll
be
doing.
D
They'll
also
be,
if
not
net
zero
carbon
right
away,
we'll
get
there
in
our
birdo
2.0
plan.
So
again,
what
we've
been
able
to
do
on
on
trees
itself
on
the
tree?
Canopy
is
not
in
conflict
with
also
providing
individuals,
safe
housing
and
wonderful
and
energy
efficient
housing,
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
feedback,
but
I
I
think
it's
I
think
it's,
mr
mis
misdirected,
to
be
completely
candid.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you-
and
I
just
wanted
to
note
joanna-
is
a
friend
and
a
constituent
from
charlestown
whose
passion
for
the
environment
it
comes
through
consistently
and
she
and
I
agree
that
tree
should
be
centered.
She
and
I
may
disagree
on
certain
tactics,
but
I
wanted
to
note
that
her
heart
is
real
and
she
she's
been
coming
to
our
racial
justice
circles
and
and
working
to
honestly,
integrate
and
and
to
have
equity
and
social
justice
at
the
core
in
our
neighborhood
of
charleston.
A
So
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
do
also
want
to
a
thank
you
joanna
for
reminding
us
of
the
icc
report,
but
also
of
the
comments
that
I
made
and
I
still
stand
by
them,
and
I
think
I
can
stand
by
them
quite
firmly
and
still
support
this
for
a
couple
reasons.
As
you
noted,
as
council
o'malley
noted
that
the
beardo
hearing
that's
the
building
emissions
reductions
hearing
is
coming
up
the
working
session.
When
we're
finished,
I
made
a
commitment
that
that
would
be.
A
A
Of
course,
as
you
know,
are
the
number
one
emitter
of
emissions
in
the
city
of
boston
and
the
way
we
build
has
been
the
reason
why,
and
so
we
need
to
regulate
that
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
reducing
the
amount
and
seven
percent
of
buildings
are
actually
a
part
of
that,
and
I
agree
how
we
develop
has
been
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
that
we
have.
Emissions
issues
and
climate
change
in
boston.
A
A
We've
also
led
on
divestment
from
fossil
fuels
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
we-
and
we
will
have
a
hearing
on
that,
assuring
that
the
city
of
boston's
coffers
and
monies
that
are
in
trust
are
not
also
benefiting
or
invested
in
fossil
fuels.
So
I
believe,
quite
frankly,
the
urgency
and
the
work
that
I'm
doing
me,
because
you
called
me
out
is-
is
evident
in
the
work
that
I've
been
doing
on
environmental
justice
right
now
on
the
substation
in
east,
boston
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
We
agree
that
trees
are
necessary
for
beauty,
for
clean
air
and
also
as
a
matter
of
environmental
justice.
I
think
that
there
has
been
a
back
and
forth
over
how
best
to
get
that
done,
and
you
have
a
commitment
you've
had
it
from
before.
You
have
it
to
today
about
making
sure
that
trees
are
centered
in
part
of
the
process.
We
had
a
separate
hearing
actually
at
the
bpda,
specifically
on
trees
and
and
the
development
of
bunker
hill.
So
this
is.
A
This
is
not
to
the
exclusion
of
them,
and
I
agree
with
you
joanna
you
said
it
perfectly:
it's
not
housing
or
trees.
It
isn't
and
it
shouldn't
be,
but
I
this
process
specifically
about
the
bidding
process
that
allows
for
us
to
go
forward
in
a
more
efficient,
cost-effective
way
is
not
about
housing
or
trees.
It's
about
the
process
and
making
sure
that
this
can
continue.
A
So
I'm
I
don't
know
that
we
disagree.
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
because
you
you
brought
me
in
and
specifically
about
my
sons
of
climate
urgency.
I
wanted
to
respond
to
that.
Counselor
braden
has
raised
her
hand,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
microphone
over
to
her.
B
A
very
brief
comment
just
to
I
know
this
is
slightly
on
the
on
the
side
of
this
discussion
about
replacing
this
housing.
But
I
really
feel
strongly
about
the
tree
issue
myself
and
I
think
the
one-to-one
replacement
may
be
a
little
modest.
Maybe
we
should
be
shooting
higher
than
that.
I'm
trying
to
get.
I
want
a
two-to-one
replacement,
because
we
know
that
a
certain
number
of
those
trees
aren't
going
to
survive
and
the
other
part
of
it
is
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
all
of
our
hardscape
is
permeable.
B
A
tree
will
absorb
like
thousands
of
gallons
of
water
in
the
groundwater
in
the
course
of
a
growing
season
and
a
mature
healthy
tree
well,
but
there
will
be
a
there'll
be
an
interim
time
and
I
think
you
know,
as
we
see
increased
per
longer
periods
of
like
intense
rainfall
and
more
extreme
rain
weather
events,
making
sure
that
our
hardscape
is
permeable
and
that
we
do
all
those
stormwater
management
strategies
which
I
think
I
am
sure
will
be
in
the
plan.
B
So
but
it's
really
really
just
to
be
part
of
that
whole.
A
holistic
review
of
how
we
can
make
this
the
most
sustainable
and
and
resilient
space
housing
housing
development
that
we
can
possibly
make
and
and
make
it
just
a
great
place,
a
healthy
place
and
and
a
resilient
place
for
people
to
live.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
joe
wolf
from
bha.
E
Thanks
counselor,
I
just
wanted
to
just
make
a
couple
of
quick,
quick
comments.
One
is
that
I
think
well,
first
of
all
to
your
point,
madam
chair,
this
particular
piece
of
legislation
is
really
about
the
procurement
process,
but
with
that
said,
I
think
the
environmental
protection,
sustainability
and
quality
of
life
both
for
the
residents
surrounding
community
is
something
that
is
incredibly
important.
It's
important
to
me,
someone
who
got
my
start
in
my
career,
working
on
neighborhood
green
space
and
air
quality.
So
it's
something
that
I
I
certainly
think
about
every
day.
E
I
I
think
with
the
individual.
You
know
projects
and
redevelopments.
E
Those
are
iterative
processes,
we're
trying
to
balance
multiple
policy
aims,
and
sometimes
people
are
living
in
housing
that
needs
to
be
improved
for
their
health
and
well-being,
as
well
as
buildings
that
need
to
be
updated
to
the
point
of
yourself
and
to
our
council
pro
tem
president
and
long-time
environment
chair
council
o'malley
that
the
building
emissions
need
to
come
down
as
well.
E
Bha
does
take
feedback
and
input
on
that,
and
I
think
it's
healthy
to
have
that
in
discussion
both
with
us
in
terms
of
our
operations,
as
well
as
when
we're
working
with
any
development
partner
redevelopment
partner-
and
we
also
you
know-
have
thought
fairly
expansively
and
are
continuing
to
do
so
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do
across
the
portfolio
in
terms
of
trees,
green
space,
food
access
and
other
related
areas.
There.
E
We
we
do
have
one-to-one
replacement
of
the
public
housing
units
as
well
as
additional,
affordable
and
workforce
units,
so
I
think
to
counsel
council
braid
into
your
point.
We
would
love
to
have
more
public
housing
units
or
again
use
that
level
built
in
the
city.
It's
something
that
certainly
councilor
bach
has
been
in
dialogue
with
us
about.
Can
we
bring
more
very,
very
affordable
units
or
units
at
public
housing
income?
Sierra?
E
This
project,
though,
is,
is
actually
unique
in
that
we're
adding
a
real
middle
tier,
which
has
been
incredibly
hard
to
do
financially
with
other
projects.
So
it's
something
where
we
will
continue
to
work
with
the
city
and
the
council
with
and
something
we
would
love
to
talk
about.
Can
we
you
know,
can
we
bring
an
even
additional
higher
amount
of
of
the
30
of
income
units
and
and
cite
them
elsewhere,
perhaps
in
targeted
ways-
and
I
personally
do
represent
the
I'm
happy
that
there's
an
urban
forest
plan.
E
I
I
personally
represent
the
bha
in
those
conversations
I'll
certainly
have
to
pull
another
staff.
I
have
gone
back
to
our
operations
team
to
talk
about.
Are
there?
Are
there
peace
outside
of
the
redevelopment
of
preservation
or
whatnot
or
things
you
can
be
doing?
You
know
we
don't
have
resources
to
have
a
staff
arborist,
it's
something
interesting
to
think
about,
because
it's
not
just
at
the
point
of
redevelopment.
E
It's
also
keeping
trees
healthy
and
we'll
we'll
continue
to
engage
and
both
provide
detail
and
respond
to
the
recommendations,
or
if
legislation
comes
from
the
city
out
of
that
tree
planning,
you
know
we'll
certainly
be
there
with
it.
So
we're
happy
to
continue
to
engage
in
those
conversations.
It
is
something
that's
important,
as
is
the
quality
of
life
for
the
residents
who
live
in
units
that
desperately
need
to
be
updated.
I
think
we
can
really
balance
both
and
get
affordable
housing
and
public
housing
there.
It's
something
we're
committed
to
do
so.
E
You
know
hope
to
continue
to
move
forward
on
on
this
project
and
others.
While
you
know
ensuring
that
we're
doing
both
the
local
and
global
right
thing,
and
certainly
to
the
point
with
birdo
we're
going
to
have
to
it's
a
really
significant
reduction
that
the
bha
will
have
to
make.
I
have
been
asking
our
energy
manager
to
run
numbers
on
that.
Just
looking
at
the
targets,
the
council
and
the
and
the
administration
are
proposing.
E
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
for
coming
today
on
less.
I
think
the
administration
has
any
other
comments.
If
anyone
else
has
anything
else
to
say
I
I
don't
have
any
more
questions
on
the
procurement
process
and
allowing
for
this
to
go
for
the
for
the
exceptions
to
recruitment
process.
The
way
this
would
go
is
this
is
a
homo
petition.
So,
after
it
comes
out
of
city
council,
it
would
then
still
have
to
go
to
the
state
house
for
for
additional
vetting.
A
A
Sarah
freeman
there
we
go,
you
just
need
to
unmute.
H
Yourself,
yeah
hi.
Sorry,
I
only
have
a
moment
before
another
meeting,
but
I
just
and
I
tendedly
I
hear
that
we're
on
a
different
topic,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
for
hopefully
thank
you
in
advance
for
really
taking
johanna's
and
other
comments
to
heart
that
we
have
this
urban
forest
plan
going
on.
We
have
councilor
arroyo's
proposed
ordinance
coming
up
and
at
the
same
time
we
have
these
plans
that
are
pretty
far
down
the
road
already,
and
I
guess
I'll
invoke
john
kerry.
H
If
any
of
you
are
old
enough
to
remember
or
replayed
when,
when
he
was
running
for
president
talking
about
vietnam
and
who's
going
to
be
the
last
person
to
die
in
a
war
that
he
didn't
support,
I'll
ask
you
all
to
think
which
is
going
to
be
the
last
project
that
kind
of
makes
it
convenient
for
for
the
development
by
allowing
a
clean
slate
rather
than
raising
the
bar
and
and
getting
the
much
needed
housing,
but
asking
the
developers
to
work
around
some
of
these
trees
that
it's
going
to
take
80
years
for
these
new
trees
to
get
that
height
or
60
years.
H
You
know
we're
talking
generations
and
just
try
to
get
the
city.
I
don't
know
when
will
be
that
magic
moment,
but
we're
we're
and
I'm
glad
to
see
joel
in
on
the
other
side.
Now
it
may
be
hopefully
having
some
influence
on
this.
It's
not
easy
to
change
the
culture,
but
at
some
point
we
need
to
make
the
discussion
more
balanced.
So
I
hope
you
all
will
take
that
to
heart
and
act
accordingly.
H
A
Well,
first
of
all,
thank
you
so
much
for
for
testifying
and
I
think
we
I
know
I
counsel
o'malley
and
I
responded
earlier,
but
this
is,
I
don't
know
if
you
came
in
the
middle
of
those
responses,
but
no.
H
A
D
No
always
good
to
see
sarah
and
sarah
someone,
I
know,
has
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
mildred
haley
and
getting
to
know
the
residents,
so
I
know
she
again.
I
think
I
think
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page
here.
I
think
we
know
that
we
need
more,
better
housing
and
deeply
affordable,
and
certainly
looking
at
the
guiding
principles
of
environmentalism
is
something
that
that
I
know
sarah
and
I
have
worked
very
closely
on
and
and
we
will
continue
to
do,
that.
A
Okay,
unless
I
see
another
person
here
for
public
testimony
just
checking
again,
I
don't
want
to
close
out
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
all
for
attending
today's.
I
appreciate
the
the
voices
and
also
the
consideration
and
again,
as
I
stated
after
the
city
council
votes
on
this,
assuming
it
gets
out
acting
mayor
then,
must
sign,
and
then
it
must
go
on
to
the
state
house
for
further
consideration.
A
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
out
today's
hearing.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
take
care.
Thank
you.