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Docket #1054 - Hearing to discuss house parties and gatherings during the COVID-19 pandemic
B
B
A
A
A
Today
we
are
having
a
hearing
on
docket
number
1054
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
house
parties
in
gatherings
during
covet
19
pandemic.
The
hearing
was
sponsored
by
myself,
counselors,
flaherty
and
braden.
I
am
joined
right.
I
am
joined
at
this
time
by
council
celebrating
council
council
of
charity
council
royal
councillor.
A
A
You
are
called,
please
state
your
name
in
affiliation
in
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
If
you
are
unable
to
provide
testimony
today,
you
may
submit
written
testimony
or
a
two-minute
video
for
our
record
by
emailing
the
committee
at
ccc.cns
at
boston.gov
or
filling
out
the
form
on
our
website
within
48
hours.
A
But
at
this
time
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
and
thank
the
panel
for
being
here,
dion
irish,
who
is
the
commissioner
of
the
inspectional
services
department,
aesha
miller
assistant
commissioner
of
constituent
services,
inspectional
services,
department,
leon,
bethone,
director
community
initiative,
community
initiatives,
bureau,
boston,
public
health
commission,
and
we
have
written
comments
by
the
boston
police
department,
which
I
think
commissioner
irish
will
will
read
at
this
time.
I
would
like
to
ask
councillor
brayden
if
she
would
like
to
give
opening
comments
council
of
braden.
C
C
But
there's
a
huge
number
as
we're
seeing
from
the
numbers
about
50
of
the
new
infections,
are
in
an
age
group
under
39
years
old.
So
it's
obvious
that
there
is
continued
spread
of
this
infection
and
I'd
like
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
we
can
do
to
help
manage
that
and
also
some
understanding
of
how
best
we
can
communicate
the
importance
of
this
basic
public
health
precautions
to
try
and
reduce
the
spread
of
this
infection.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today
and
I
look
forward
to
um
hearing
your
your
comments.
D
Thank
you,
chairman
flynn
and
council
braden,
for
your
partnership
on
this
issue
and
for
my
colleagues
for
for
joining
in
um
house.
Parties
have
always
been
a
major
quality
of
life
issue
across
the
city,
particularly
in
neighborhoods
uh
that
are
in
close
proximity
and
or
our
host
communities
for
our
colleges,
universities,
austin,
brighton
mission
hill
fenway
come
to
mind,
but
we've
also
seen
our
city
undergo
gentrification
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods
are
becoming
younger
and,
as
council
braid
just
alluded
to
uh
we're,
starting
to
see
um
the
the
covered
numbers
tick
up.
D
uh
Chairman
flynn,
and
I
were
on
a
call
recently
with
uh
chief
martinez
and
our
concerns
about
as
they
start
to
sort
of
uh
roll
back
and
and
they're
uh
they're,
asking
that
our
restaurants
and
and
uh
restaurant
and
bar
establishments
had
to
roll
back
to
9
30..
um
These
kids
in
particular.
I
use
the
phrase.
Kids,
the
the
younger
residents
that
we
have
in
the
city-
they're
not
just
going
to
go
home
they're,
not
just
going
to
call
it
a
day
and
say:
oh
geez,
we
can't
we
can't
hang
here
anymore.
D
We
can't
we
have
to
finish
up
and
we
have
to
go
home
home
is
not
going
to
be
an
option.
It's
going
to
be
where
we
going
next
and
uh
and
we're
going
to
start
to
see.
uh
You
know
large
groups
gather
in
people's
homes.
So
if
we
think
that
we
have
a
house
party
issue,
now
uh
we're
gonna
start
to
see
that
exacerbate
over
the
next
few
weeks
uh
as
we
head
uh
into
um
uh
to
the
holiday
season.
D
You
know,
with
aisha
miller
they've
been
doing
great
work,
they've
been
very
responsive,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
they're
going
to
be
participating
in
in
today's
hearing
uh
and
let's
learn
more
from
uh
from
our
partners
at
the
boston
public
health
commission
as
to
what
could
uh
do
better
on
this
front.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Look
forward
to
the
testimony.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
makers.
uh
Obviously,
as
we
see
covered
rates
go
up
across
the
city,
uh
this
is
a
part
of
it.
We
know
that
house
gatherings
uh
or
parties
will
continue
uh
and
will
be
more
of
an
issue
as
uh
people
go
indoors
and
move
indoors
uh
with
the
weather,
and
so
I'm
interested
in
hearing
what
we're
planning
for,
uh
especially
with
the
holiday
season,
with
the
winter
breaks
for
these
colleges
coming
up
with
all
these
different
things
that
are
going
on.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
councillors,
brandon
and
flaherty
for
bringing
this
forward.
As
folks
know,
I
represent
mission
hill
and
fenway
both
places
where
we
have
large
student
populations
and
also
you
know,
I
think
we've
talked
a
lot
about
students,
but
also
a
lot
of
young
folks,
my
age
in
their
upper
20s,
lower
30s,
and
I
think
that
we
all
know
that
right
now.
That
covet
is
a
hard
strange
time
and
that
everyone
is
looking
for
community.
F
But
I
think
just
like
everything
that
we're
learning
about
our
public
health
data
suggests
that
we
just
really
need
to
be
doing
everything
we
possibly
can
to
discourage
indoor
parties
um
in
the
weeks
ahead.
And
it's
something
that
folks
in
my
neighborhoods
are
very
anxious
about,
um
and
I
think
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
resources
um
brought
to
bear
both
by
uh
isd
uh
the
public
health
commission,
bpd
and
then
the
universities
themselves.
F
um
So
I'm
glad
to
be
here
today
and
again
grateful
to
my
colleagues
for
bringing
this
important
issue
forward,
because
it's,
uh
I
think
it
was
important
for
everyone
to
focus
on
singular
super
spreader
events
early
in
this.
But
I
think,
unfortunately,
it's
allowed
people
to
bring
their
guard
down
about
the
idea
that
it
could
be.
F
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Let
me
just
echo
what
my
colleagues
have
said
and
thank
the
makers
for
this
very
timely
hearing.
My
district
certainly
doesn't
suffer
from
a
shortage
of
student
college
parties,
things
that
can
be
super
spreaders.
I
think
this
was
certainly
an
issue
pre-covered,
but
given
where
we
are,
with
the
cases
rising,
giving
where
we
are
with
the
governor's
new
advisory
out
today.
I
think
this
conversation
uh
you
know,
is
right
on
time.
G
G
um
I
will
have
to
step
away
for
part
of
this
hearing,
uh
mr
chair,
but
I
want
you
to
know
that
this
is
a
very
important
issue
and
what
I
don't
what
I'm
not
when
I'm
not
here,
I
certainly
will
make
sure
to
review
the
recording
and
have
staff
on
board
as
well.
So
thank
you
again
for
your
leadership.
Thank
you
again
to
the
makers.
Thank
you
to
the
panel.
A
At
it,
thank
you
council
president.
Before
I
introduce
the
piano,
I
let
me
just
offer
my
opening
comments.
As
council
flair
mentioned,
we
recently
met
on
zoom
with
90
neighbors
in
south
boston,
boston,
police,
captain
boyle,
inspectional
service
department
assistant,
commissioner
miller
data
from
boston
police
has
shown.
Complaints
for
loud
parties
has
has
increased
substantially
compared
to
last
year.
Throughout
the
pandemic,
boston
police
have
encouraged
neighbors
to
continue
to
contact
911
to
report.
This
irresponsible
and
inconsiderate
behavior
isd
has
also
instructed
us
to
email
assistant,
commissioner
miller
from
the
mayor's
problem
property
list
as
well.
A
A
These
parties
often
leave
behind
trash
and
lit
up
all
over
the
streets,
attracting
rodents
and
pests
as
well,
but
it's
a
public
health
emergency.
It's
a
critical
issue.
It's
important
that
we
work
together.
We
are
working
together
as
a
city
as
a
city
government,
but
we
need
the
young
people
in
boston
who
are
having
these
parties
to
step
up
and
think
about
other
people
and
not
themselves
think
about
our
seniors
and
persons
with
disabilities
and
families.
This
is
having
a
devastating
impact.
A
Having
said
that,
I
want
to
acknowledge
dion
irish,
but
but
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
assistant
commissioner
miller,
who
has
done
an
outstanding
job
being
very
responsive,
very
cooperative
in
really
addressing
the
concerns
of
residents.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
assistant,
commissioner.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
commissioner
irish
in
the
ons
team
as
well.
Having
said
that,
commissioner,
irish,
would
you
like
to
open
up.
H
um
This
is
certainly
an
important
and
a
timely
issue.
So
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
and
helping
us
to
spread
the
word
and
to
share
how
we're
going
to
go
about
increasing
our
enforcement
efforts.
As
you
know,
public
health
officials
believe
that
large
gatherings,
particularly
those
in
indo-enclosed
environments,
are
significant.
Contributory
factors
to
the
covet
19
positivity
rate
that
we're
currently
experiencing
mia
walsh
has
directed
city
agencies
to
increase
law
enforcement
in
order
to
discourage
such
activities.
H
At
this
time,
and
my
colleagues
and
I
prepared
to
talk
about
how
we're
doing
that,
I
can
only
think
that,
as
an
undergrad
at
boston
university,
I
was
involved
in
some
of
these
parties,
sometimes
as
a
dj.
So
I
never
thought
that
I'd
be
saying
this,
but
this
is
not
the
time
to
party.
um
This
is
not
the
time,
however,
before
we
get
into
details
about
our
enforcement
strategy,
I
believe
my
colleague
leon
bethune
from
the
health
commission.
H
I
H
The
boston
police,
as
you
know,
is
the
primary
responder
to
party
complaints
throughout
the
city
and
therefore
a
critical
partner
to
our
covert
19
enforcement
efforts.
Commissioner
gross
couldn't
be
here
today,
as
chair
flynn
mentioned.
However,
he
did
send
a
letter
and
I'm
going
to
ask
assistant
commissioner
aisha
miller,
to
read
that
letter
into
the
record.
Please.
J
J
The
bpd
put
together
a
proactive
comprehension
plan
across
multiple
districts
during
the
spring
summer
and
fall
to
address
and
prevent
large
outdoor
gatherings
in
certain
problem
areas.
This
plan
taxed
our
resources,
but
was
extremely
effective,
with
almost
no
contentious
incidents
between
our
officers
and
the
participants
of
the
gatherings.
J
The
lessons
learned
from
this
effort
will
inform
our
work
as
we
go
into
the
winter
months.
The
bpd
has
a
party
line
that
we
publicize
through
our
community
service
officers
and
social
media.
The
purpose
of
this
bpd
party
line
is
to
give
residents
a
direct
contact
for
reporting
the
occurrence
of
loud
parties.
J
J
J
J
A
I
I
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
us
together
today
on
this
important
talk
topic.
um
We
shared
the
council's
concern
about
parties
and
gatherings
at
this
time,
and
we
want
to
be
absolutely
clear.
There
should
be
no
parties
or
large
gatherings
held
in
boston
right
now,
due
to
the
covet
19
pandemic,
governor
baker
just
signed
an
updated
order.
uh
Number
54
which
restricts
gathering
the
new
gathering
order,
reduces
the
gathering
size
limits
for
gathering
at
private
residence.
I
Indoor
gathering
at
private
residents
are
limited
to
10
people,
an
outdoor
gathering
at
private
residence,
eliminating
to
25
people
the
limit
on
gatherings
held
in
public
spaces
and
and
event
venues.
For
instance,
a
wedding
remains
the
same.
The
new
order
also
requires
that
all
gatherings,
regardless
of
size
or
location,
must
end
and
disperse
at
9
30
p.m.
I
I
we're
currently
developing
educational
materials
to
be
distributed.
At
inspection
visits
made
to
a
party
house,
these
materials
are
being
designed
specifically
for
the
ages
20
to
29
demographics
and
will
include
it
will
include
a
covet
fact
sheet
information
about
testing
and
a
qr
code
linking
party
attendees
testing
locations.
I
I
We
also
want
to
note
that
we
continue
to
be
proactive
in
our
approach.
We
are
websites
like
meetup,
eventbrite
and
social
media
or
plan
large
gatherings,
so
we
can
reach
out
to
the
organizers
and
prevent
these
gatherings
from
being
held
as
we
find
ourselves
in
the
midst
of
the
flu
season
and
covet.
19
continues
to
spread
boston.
Public
health
commission
want
to
emphasize
that
mass
wearing
and
social
distancing
are
the
key
to
prevent
future
transmission.
A
Thank
you,
mr
bethune,
for
your
for
your
testimony
and
for
your
leadership
on
this
important
issue.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
ask
my
colleague,
um
counselor
braden
if
she
would
like
to
start
off
the
q
a
but
before
I
do
that.
I'd
like
to
recognize
council
me
here,
that's
also
with
us
uh
that
has
joined
us
um
council,
councilor
braden.
C
H
H
Where
we're
um
we're
sending
out
warning
letters,
we're
sending
out
information,
uh
we
we
are
also
going
out
uh
proactively
when
we
have
intelligence
that
that
uh
places
uh
where
their
recurring
parties,
our
parties
are
likely
to
happen,
and
and
when
we
do
go
out
um
to
do
those
type
of
investigations.
I
think
we've
done
about
30
of
those
so
far,
then
that
team
is
consistent
of
isd
inspectors,
um
police
departments
uh
and
depending
on
where
we're
at
it
may
be
a
rep
from
the
local
college
or
a
nearby
college.
H
H
um
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
mixture
of
things
there
some
places
that
uh
sort
of
operating
illegal
clubs
that
are
having
parties
on
a
weekly
basis,
so
we've
teamed
up
with
the
police
department
and
I
think
we've
had
success
uh
and
discontinuing
those
activities.
So
it's
sort
of
a
mix.
Some
of
it
is
education
just
to
remind
folks
that
these
are
the
rules
and
you
shouldn't
be
having
potties
at
this
time.
C
H
C
C
H
um
I'll
leave
it
to
leon
issue
to
talk
about
um
the
uptick
in
sort
of
complaints,
but
we,
we
did
have
a
proactive
strategy
that
weekend
where
we
we
we
uh
met
with
all
the
the
bpd
csos
beforehand,
and
also
the
colleges
to
identify,
addresses
that
we
were
concerned
about
and
we
sent
our
team
out
to
to
over
30
plus
addresses
and
and
also
looked
at
other
addresses
nearby
um
throughout
the
city.
So
east
boston
uh
mission,
hill,
austin,
brighton,
south
boston,.
C
The
other
issue
of
concern
for
me,
is
sometimes
these
parties
start
early
in
the
day
like
they
kick
off
about
three
o'clock,
so
a
9
30
curfew
is
not
necessarily
effective
because
they've
been
partying
since
you
know
mid-afternoon
um
are
there
any
reports
of
of
earlier
in
the
day
apart?
What
time
of
the
day
do
you,
I
obviously
the
evening
time
would
be
more
prevalent,
but
are
there
are
there?
Do
you
ever
get
called
to
parties
during
the
early
afternoon
evening
on
a
weekend.
H
Yeah,
we
haven't
gotten
called
to
any
any
day
parties,
but
we
certainly
want
to
use
this
opportunity
just
to
encourage
the
public
to
to
call
9-1-1
I'll
call
the
the
party
line
that
um
aisha
uh
mentioned
earlier,
so
that
we
are
aware
of
this.
If
this
is
occurring
that
we
want
to
know
about
it,
so
we
can
address
that
as
well.
C
I
And
I
just
I
just
would
like
to
add
that
you
know
if
we
do
um
we're
trying
to
be
as
proactive
as
possible.
If
we
do
hear
about
parties,
we
we
try
to
at
least
um
you
know,
make
phone
calls
and
send
letters
to
those
um
those
addresses
um
to
to
make
sure
that
they
they
stop.
So
we
are.
We
are
doing
that.
D
What
we
don't
want
to
have
happen
is
neighbors
having
to
engage
uh
butters
in
terms
of
telling
them
to
lower
the
music
down
and
or
you
know
that
it's
uh
we're
in
a
pandemic,
and
they
really
shouldn't
be
having
that
many
people
over,
particularly
when
there's
booze
involved
indoor
drugs.
It's
just
it's
a
recipe
for
disaster,
so
short
of
having
our
citizens
engage
their
own
neighbors
indoors
short
of
having
someone
go
by
with
like
a
red
or
a
green
or
a
yellow,
vest
on
behalf
of
a
particular
city
agency.
D
I
think
that
in
many
instances
we're
going
to
need
the
support
of
our
police
officers
and
was
hoping
that
uh
these
calls,
given
the
the
uh
the
importance
of
uh
of
it,
uh
of
cover
19
and
it
going
from
a
public.
uh
You
know
public
uh
generally,
a
quality
life
issue
to
a
public
health
crisis.
uh
We
might
want
to
elevate
those
calls.
That's
just
my
my
uh
my
ask
is:
how
do
we
elevate
these
beyond
a
uh
priority?
Nine,
which
is
the
lowest
priority
and
they
get
to
the
win?
H
That's
great
question
counselor,
um
you
know.
Sometimes
there
are
competing
priorities
depending
on
what's
going
on,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
this
is
a
priority
for
the
police
department
and
they've
been
very
responsive.
We
are
communicating
with
them
regularly
uh
meetings,
emails
and
you
know
what
what
they're
doing
is
when
they
respond.
They'll
tell
folks
to
knock
it
off
and
um
nine
times
out
of
ten
they're,
probably
gonna,
listen
to
the
police
department,
um
but
when
they
don't
they're,
also
reporting
to
us
about
chronic
activities.
H
E
uh
We
have
some.
You
know,
I
know
in
my
district.
We
don't
have
so
much
of
a
college
population,
so
our
parties
aren't
necessarily
in
that
realm,
but
we
also
they're
they're
limited,
uh
there's
a
few
spots
that
I
know
have
had
parties
uh
and
we've
dealt
with
calling
that
in
but
in
terms
of
uh
you
know
the
holidays,
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
more
activity
from
a
lot
of
different
uh
demographics
uh
and
I
just
want
to
know
what
we're
doing
to
get
ahead
of
that
as
far
as
an
information
campaign.
E
As
far
as
preparing
for
that,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
minimize
that,
because
I
know
for
me,
one
of
my
major
concerns
is
what
happens
when
you
know
thanksgiving
everybody
around.
The
city
is
sitting
down
at
different
houses
or
at
different
homes,
and
what
happens
after
that?
So
what
are
we
doing
to
uh
sort
of
at
least
educate
on
this.
H
Thank
you,
counselor,
that's
another
great
question
and
great
point,
um
because
I
don't
think
that
in
enforcement
and
fines
um
is
something
that
that
should
be
the
primary
tool
when
we're
talking
about
family
gatherings,
I
think
education
is
is
important.
That
chief
martinez
is
already.
On
top
of
this.
We
um
met
yesterday
we're
meeting
weekly
on
this.
I
know
that
uh
we're
putting
together
strategies
on
how
we
could
just
increase
our
education
and
our
prevention
messaging
around
these
type
of
gatherings
going
forward.
I
you
know
leon,
I'm
not
sure.
H
E
Thank
you
because
I
I
agree
with
you.
I
don't
see
how
we
you
know,
I
I
I
have
a
hard
time
seeing
how
we
would
find
people
for
meeting
with
their
families,
but
I
certainly
want
to
try
and
make
sure
that
we
create
a
situation
where
uh
families
at
least
know
the
risks
uh
and
know
to
believe
those
risks,
uh
and
so
those
those
are
things
that
I
would
like
to
see
us
doing
moving
forward,
I'm
glad
you're
on
it.
uh
That's
it
for
me.
A
F
Thank
you
so
much,
um
and
thank
you
again,
uh
commissioner,
irish
and
uh
aisha
and
leon
for
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
for
coming
and
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
about
it
um
leon.
I
wondered
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
um
you
know
I
just
if
there's
any
update
on
where
we
are
in
terms
of
data
and
understanding
spread,
because
I
do
think
that
one
of
our
problems
is
that
people,
just
people,
don't
think
it's.
They
don't
think
it's
them
and
their
family
and
friends
who
are
spreading
covet.
F
And
I
think
it's
why
it's
so
important
for
us
to
all
keep
amplifying
the
message
about
people
getting
tested
uh
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
we're
sort
of
conveying
testing
messaging
to
people
when
we
find
them
in
these
large
gatherings.
But
I
also
just
um
continue
to
think
that
if
we
had
better
data,
helping
people
see
kind
of
the
low-level
clustering
that
that
would
help
um
get
people
to
change
their
behavior.
So
I'm
wondering
where
we
are
on
that
from
a
public
health
commission
perspective.
I
um
We,
um
you
know,
as
as,
um
as
commissioner
irish
has
said,
you
know
I
mean
when
we
go
to
these
parties.
We
try
to
like
make
sure
that
we
um
we
record
the
address
and
and
and
we're
looking
at,
you
know
to
see.
If
any
anybody
get
you
know
so
from
from
us
telling
folks
to
get
tested,
they
usually
do
and
we
have
we.
We
did
find
from
last
week
one
of
these
parties
that
a
few
people
you
know
did
um
get
covered
um
from
from
uh
from
the
party.
I
So
I
mean
we're
we're
you
know
we're
continuing
to
monitor.
um
You
know
uh
the
spread
around
the
city
and,
um
as
for
messaging,
you
know
coming
up
into
the
holiday
season.
We're
gonna
continue
to
put
the
messaging
out
there.
You
know
from
social
media
uh
to
uh
newspapers
whatever,
and
we
also
have
uh
boots
on
the
ground
right
now
um
in
uh
in
the
various
neighborhoods.
F
Great
yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
wonderful.
I
I
know
that
the
there's
been
some
discussion
about
these
materials
that
are
targeted
at
kind
of
that
20
to
20s
and
30s
demographic.
um
I
think
it
would
be
great
uh
for
the
council
to
have
those
to
amplify
more.
I
feel
like
I
absolutely
have.
Don't
really
have
those
and
I
represent
a
lot
of
those
folks.
I
I
also
do
think
that
um
I
mean
you
mentioned
the
party
last
week.
F
I
think,
to
the
extent
the
health
commission
could
think
about
kind
of
like
being
able
to
share
some
anonymized
examples
about
what
spread
has
looked
like,
because
I
think
that
well
I
recognize
the
data
report
is
there
and
it
shows
an
uptick.
um
I
think
that
there's
still
not
obviously
that
immediate
link
for
folks
to
behavior
and-
and
I
do
think
in
fairness-
the
reality
is-
is
that
a
lot
of
people
in
their
20s
and
30s
are
also
doing
essential,
in-person
jobs,
and
so
I
think
it's
reasonable
for
people
to
say,
hey
well.
F
Is
it
really
my
party,
or
is
it
just
that
I'm
being
exposed
to
more
people
um
out
and
about?
And
I
I
think
that
I
think
that
we
do
have
good
reason
to
think
that
these
indoor
gatherings
are
a
problem
and
that
they're
gonna
become
even
more
of
one
as
as
life
just
moves
indoors
more
into
the
winter.
But
I
think
that
um
I
think
that
being
able
to
sort
of
dramatize
for
people,
what
that
has
looked
like
in
specific
cases
could
be
really
helpful
with
changing
behavior.
F
I
I
think
that's
that's
the
that's.
The
major
thing
is
protect
the
hipaa
protection
of
people's
privacy,
and-
and
so
I
mean
we
can't
say
all
right
at
this
address.
You
know
we
found
40
people,
you
know,
and
you
know
so
you
you
just
gave
everybody
you
know
so
we're
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
do
those
messaging
without
compromising
people's.
Like
you
know,
um
identity
and
and
right,
oh
yeah,
but.
F
We
could
be
saying
there
was
this
house
party
of
40
people
and
then
over
the
course
of
this
week.
This
many
of
those
people
tested
positive
right.
You
could
have
a
kind
of
visualization
that
doesn't
involve
giving
up
anyone's
privacy
that
just
I
just
think
that
um
I
I
just
think
we
have
to
think
about
how
to
make
this
real
for
people,
um
because
it's
just
you
know
it's
the
problem
of
fighting
an
invisible
enemy
that
we've
been
facing
for
a
long
time,
and
when
you
combine
that
with
fatigue,
I
think
it's
just.
F
It's
just
really
important
to
make
it
visual
for
folks,
um
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
all
these
efforts.
I
also
do
want
to
acknowledge
um
you
know.
In
mission
hill,
we
have
had
a
long
tradition
of
challenges
with
house
parties,
um
and
so
this
situation
goes
on
top
of
that.
um
And
I
will
say
that
a
number
of
our
colleges
and
universities
have
been
have
been
providing
folks
um
to
be
in
immediate
touch
with
uh
with
bpd
about
calls
that
they
get
um
to
actually
go
to.
F
Some
of
those
calls
on
thursday,
friday
saturday,
nights
um
and
uh
and
I've
found
that
a
number
of
addresses
that
I've
raised
of
universities
have
been
immediately
checking
their
databases
to
figure
out
if
they're
their
students.
So
I
just
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
work
and
the
work
of
officer
o'rourke
in
mission
hill,
who
really
takes
a
community
service
kind
of
approach
and
goes.
K
L
um
Just
briefly,
not
so
much
the
the
party
situation
um
but
given
where
we
are
in
the
calendar
year
I
wanted
to
you
know,
understand
I
did
have
to
you
know
jump
onto
the
phone,
so
I
missed
some
of
the
conversation.
I
would
agree
with
council
royal
that
we
don't
want
to
find
ourselves
in
a
position
of
fining
people
uh
for
not
doing
the
right
thing.
L
We
want
to
incentivize
people
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
given
the
calendar
year,
we
are
people,
families
will
be
gathering
for
thanksgiving
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
proactively
can
we
do
to
get
the
messaging
out
there
to
council
box
point
around
the
safe
things
to
do?
um
How,
to
you
know,
celebrate
some
of
these
holidays
that
are
coming
up
in
a
much
more
safer
fashion.
I
think
the
more
we
can
give
folks
the
information
and
the
tools
to
to
gather
safely
or
to
limit
you
know
their
gathering
altogether.
L
The
better
off
we
are,
rather
than
trying
to
punitively,
come
to
them
after
the
fafsa
fines.
So
I'm
just
curious
if
anyone
on
the
panel
can
speak
to
any
uh
proactive
thinking
around
messaging
uh
for
the
upcoming
holidays.
So
not
so
much
the
the
college
parties
uh
or
the
the
the
folks
who
are
who
are
gathering
for
cookouts
and
other
types
of
celebrations,
but
just
thinking
of
the
the
the
holidays
that
are
coming
up.
B
H
Yes,
it's
the
messaging
is
um
it's
critical
and
it's,
um
as
I
mentioned
before,
it's
something
that's
top
of
mind
is
something
that
we've
already
been
in
discussion
about.
uh
I
think
there's
been
some
parts
of
the
messaging.
That's
already
been
communicated
in
terms
of
helping
people
to
think
about
how
to
celebrate
safety
this
year,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done
as
we
fine-tune
the
strategy
and
and
launch
a
strategy,
hopefully
with
everyone's
help,
to
really
to
communicate
safer
ways.
H
Folks
to
participate,
um
testing
should
be
an
important
part
of
families
are
going
to
get
together
some
some
things
that
are
going
to
be
beyond
our
control,
but
you
know,
I
think,
at
the
very
least,
people
should
avoid
large
gatherings
and
make
sure
everyone
is
getting
tested
and
even
consider
uh
everyone
wearing
mass.
You
know
even
at
these
gatherings
right.
L
Are
we,
for
example,
commissioner?
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
for
example,
are
we
asking
people
to
quarantine
14
days
before
they
would
gather
for
such
a
a
holiday
gathering?
Are
we
including
that
kind
of
recommendation
beyond
the
mask
wearing?
Are
we
asking
people
to
like
self
quarantine
if
they
plan
to
gather
with
family?
H
Yeah,
so
I
think
we'll
have
more
to
say
on
that.
um
The
chief
martinez
is
taking
the
lead
on
that,
and
you
know
working
with
the
health
commission.
This
is
being
developed,
but
I
would
say
that,
when
um
we're
going
to
need
everyone
to
to
leverage
all
your
networks
to
help
us
communicate
this
message
out
and
and
you'll
be
hearing,
um
you
know
from
us
in
the
very
near
future,
with
some
with
the
overall
plan
of
how
we
can
better
communicate
celebrating
safely
during
corporate
19.
A
C
Thank
you,
uh
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
councillor
mejia
for
letting
me
cut
the
line.
um
I
have
one
question.
uh
An
important
part
of
the
messaging
is
about
testing
um
and
then
the
the
consequence
of
the
next
step
would
be
contact.
Tracing
um
have
people
been
generally
cooperative
with
contact
tracing
or
I
I
hear
reports
of
people
not
being
not
being
cooperative
and
not
sharing
their
contacts
and
and
generally
impeding
that
process.
uh
What's
your
experience
with.
I
That
I
think
I
I
can
answer
that
I
think
on
our
end,
we,
you
know,
we've
seen
um
you
know
a
little
bit
of
both.
I
mean
uh
you
know
folks,
you
know,
um
because
of
privacy.
You
know
with
the
contact.
Tracer
may
not
want
to
uh
divulge
just
that
sort
of
information,
but
you
know,
as
as,
for
the
most
part
you
know,
people
are
cooperating
with
the
contact,
races.
H
Thank
you,
after
that
today
we
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
get
tested
on
a
regular
basis,
at
least
every
two
weeks.
We
have
um
testing
resources
all
around
the
city
and
I
think
folks
need
to
just
rethink
that,
um
not
just
to
get
a
test,
because
you
think
that
you've
been
exposed
or
you're
you're
feeling
ill.
You
could
feel
perfectly
fine.
It's
still
a
good
idea,
if
you're
out
in
public,
if
you're
out
and
about
to
get
a
test
on
a
regular
basis,.
C
C
um
Many
of
the
universities
are
suggesting
their
students
go
home
and
don't
come
back
until
january,
but
I
know
I
know
there
will
be
a
large
cohort
of
folks
who
are
living
off
campus,
who
won't
go
home.
So
um
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
could
ramp
up
some
testing
um
in
austin
brighton?
You
know
the
first
week
in
december
or
something
like
that,
so
that
we
can
try
and
capture
those.
um
That's.
Maybe
the
wrong
word
make
sure
that
those
folks
get
tested
or
offer
them
that
opportunity
and
close
by.
A
M
But
let
me
just
tell
you
that
you
were
just
holding
it
down
and,
like
you
guys,
are
one
of
my
favorite
departments,
um
and
you
know
I'm
always
talking
smack
about
this,
that
or
the
other,
and
I
don't
give
out
a
lot
of
compliments.
So
you
know
you
know
that
you're
I
have
lots
of
love
for
y'all,
um
and
so
I
really
do
appreciate
everything
that
you
all
do.
um
Commissioner,
irish,
I
really
do
appreciate
your
team.
M
M
H
J
um
That
that's
actually
a
pretty
good
question.
So
what
I've
been
trying
to
do,
um
after
speaking
with
the
commissioner
and
trying
to
have
a
good
approach
with
finding
people,
because
we
just
really
didn't
want
to
come
off
like
we're
just
finding
individuals
and
finding
individuals
what
we
did.
um
We
call
the
landlords
and
gave
them
a
preaching
to
so
to
speak
and
a
verbal
warning.
This
is
happening
at
your
residence
and
you
need
to
speak
to
your
tenants
now.
J
J
But
if
I
verbally
speak
to
you,
you
get
a
fine,
um
because
I
think
that
if
I'm
actually
taking
the
time
to
call
you
and
so
you'll
know
what
the
issue
is
and
what's
going
on
with
your
property,
then
you
should
probably
take
that
into
consideration
that
this
is
happening
and
you
speak
to
your
tenants
and
stop
it.
So
what
we're
doing
is
is
we
are
finding
um
those
who
go
against
the
governor's
order.
J
J
um
Without
giving
out
too
much
information,
I
will
say
that
some
of
these
folks
do
live
in
south
boston
and
some
do
not
okay
and,
as
we
speak
to
um
just
about
it's
not
just
happening
in
south
boston,
but
also
brighton,
um
there's
quite
a
few
in
roxbury
mission
hill.
Over
the
past
weekend,
during
the
uh
halloween
weekend,
we
had
um
11
in
roxbury
mission
hill,
seven
in
austin,
brighton
and.
M
J
Are
not
like
you
know,
I
mean
I
have
to
say
this,
that
the
people
of
south
boston
have
been
really
patient.
um
This
has
been
going
on
for
a
while.
We've
been
trying
to
take
a
like
a
subtle
approach
in
just
informing
landlords
of
what
they
should
not
be
doing
and
things
they
should
be
telling
their
tenants
and
with
the
help
of
the
boston
uh
public
health
commission
giving
out
information
to
so
they
can
stop
the
spread,
um
but
the
noise
continues.
J
So
if
you're
a
lifelong
resident,
you're
sitting
in
your
house,
you
may
be
you,
you
know
you
just
want
to
relax,
because
you
really
can't
go
anywhere
and
it
sounds
like
a
band
is
sitting
in
your
living
room.
um
It's
it's
an
issue
and
it's
just
becoming
more
of
an
issue.
So
we
have
we
had
to
find
ways
in
order
to
get
our
message
across.
Where
um
that
we
mean
business.
M
So
let
me
ask
you
this
question
and
um
leon:
this
might
be
for
you
potentially
or
I
don't
think
we
have
anyone
here
from
the
bpd,
um
but
I'm
just
curious.
um
What
at
what
point
do
we
start
with
this
contract
tracing
at
the
very
least
what
schools
these
kids
are
from
and
that
potentially
we
can
then
hold
those
schools
accountable
to,
because
I
think,
when
we're
thinking
about
accountability,
it
has
to
be
360.
M
M
What
opportunities
exist
when
we
do
that
contract
tracing
to
then
hold
these
schools
accountable
and
potentially
give
them
a
fine,
because
they're
not
doing
their
dual
diligence
in
controlling
that
environment.
So
I'm
just
curious
as
to
one,
if
that's
something
that
we
can
potentially
do
and
if
that's
something
worth
looking
into.
I
I
think
I
mean
I
think
um
you
know,
for
the
contact
tracing
I
mean
we're.
This
is
just
starting
up
where
we're
looking
at
you
know.
If
we
go
out
to
the
parties,
you
know
we're
running
a
list
of
the
addresses
and
um
basically
cross-referencing
with
the
contact
traces.
You
know
just
to
see
what
the
correlations
are.
um
You
know
as
moving
it
further
to
see.
If
um
that
person
went
to
a
school,
I
don't
I
don't
think
I
don't.
I
I'm
not
100
sure
if
we've
done
that,
but
I
know
you
know
just
putting
the
address.
You
know
on
notice,
and
so
when
you
know
somebody
comes
in
that
you
know
that
uh
I
got
sick
of
that
address.
We
can
at
least
um
you
know
um
at
least
start
tallying
and
and
and
uh
you
know,
as
long
as
we
get
the
information
from
that
person
that
you
know
they
were
at
that
party,
we
can
start
contact
tracing,
but
the
other
part
of
of
uh
of
looking
at
um
you
know
correlating
with
with
the
schools
we.
I
M
Yeah,
I
just
think
it
would
be
worth
looking
into
in
terms
of
another
layer
of
accountability,
because
it
can
always
just
fall
in
the
city.
It
can't
always.
I
just
think
that
we
always
point
a
lot
of
fingers,
but
we're
not
doing
a
really
good
enough
job
and
really
looking
at
everybody
who
can
be
held
accountable,
including
ourselves
as
residents
too
right
so
we're.
This
is
just
an
opportunity
for
everybody
to
really
lean
into
it
and
then
the
last
thing
that.
H
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
add
um
you
know
not
to
speak
for
the
schools,
but
I
do
want
to
share
from
our
experience
so
far
with
our
enforcement
efforts.
The
schools
have
been
very
much
engaged
and
proactive
they've
been
out
there
at
night
with
us.
They
want
to.
They
want
us
to
inform
them
if
any
of
their
students
are
involved
and
they're,
taking
disciplinary
action
against
students
who
are
having
large
gatherings.
M
M
M
I
think
that
that
would
be
worth
looking
into
in
terms
of
just
getting
the
word
out
and
I
think
working
with
chief
jerome
I'm
putting
together
something
because
they
already
have
the
infrastructure,
for
that
might
be
helpful.
It's
just
something
to
consider
in
terms
of
um
helping
to
raise
awareness
in
multiple
languages.
M
A
A
Can
you,
uh
commissioner,
can
you,
commissioner,
or
uh
mr
bethune,
so
when
there
is
a
large
party
in
in
a
neighborhood,
are
we
recommending
that
everybody
at
that
party
immediately
or
the
next
day
go
to
go?
Get
testing?
um
Is
that
the
message
we
want
to
we
want
to
put
out?
I
I
agree
with
that
messaging,
um
but
I
I
is
is
that
what
we're
asking
yes,
okay,.
I
Absolutely
because
when
you're
drinking
and
you're
in
enclosed
space
and
there's
some
somebody,
that's
asymptomatic,
you
are
more
likely
to
spread
coven
to
all
your
other
partygoers.
So
we're
we're.
um
You
know
emphasizing
to
everyone
that,
if
you're
at
a
party
and
folks
are
not
wearing
masks,
um
you're
an
enclosed
space
which
is
a
you
know,
um
you
know
a
triple
decker
or
or
whatever.
Then
you
need
to
go,
get
you
need
to
go,
get
tested.
I
Yeah
so
yeah,
so
basically
what
we've
been
doing?
uh
uh
The
commissioner
um
uh
irish
mentioned
that
we
uh
we
go
out
as
a
enforcement
and
an
inspection
team,
um
and
so
when
we
get
the
the
three
one
one
call
that
comes
in
we'll
we'll
go
out
as
a
team
um
and
and
investigate
those
part
that
those
that
those
parties,
uh
depending
on
the
neighborhood
and
um
you
know,
as
you
know,
once
we
get
there.
H
Not
much
more
to
add
other
than
you
know,
uh
the
relationship
is
um
strengthened,
um
strong
with
the
police
department
um
in
terms
of
communication
around
this
effort,
identifying
properties
that
um
that
the
police
want
us
to
follow
up
on
we're
getting
great
reports
from
them.
So
um
the
partnership
is
going
well
so
far
with
enforcement,
so
anyone
who's
considering
having
parties
on
a
regular
basis
or
legal
clubs-
and
you
know
the
party's
over
this-
is
not
the
time
to
be
partying.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
um
Mr
bethune,
I
guess
my
final
question
is,
um
you
know
like
us
all.
We,
we
have
great
respect
and
admiration
for
our
dedicated
city,
employees,
our
police,
our
isd
team,
our
public
health
team
when
they
respond
to
a
house
party,
our
city
employees.
In
you
know
there
was
a
recent
party
you
mentioned.
There
was
80
people
or
50
people.
H
um
So
you
know
we
if
we
can
accomplish
it
by
being
10
12
feet
away
by
seeing
what
we
need
to
see
and
addressing
it.
That's
what
we're
doing
um
with
respect
to
testing.
We
are
not
only
encouraging
all
of
employees
to
get
tested
on
a
regular
basis.
Mayor
walsh
has
also
offered
a
benefit
where
every
employee
gets
an
hour
um
every
two
weeks,
every
14
days
to
get
a
test.
H
I
Thank
you.
I
have
got
the
same
um
as
uh
commissioner
irish
um
same
thing
on
the
boston
public
health
commission.
All
our
inspectors
are,
you
know,
trained
to
uh
be
uh
maintain
physical
distance.
um
They're
all
um
uh
have
ppe
um
that
they
carry
around
uh
hand
sanitizer
one
of
the
things
we
do
do
when
we
go
to
these
parties
is,
we
do
give
out
um
hand
sanitizers
yeah,
um
along
with
all
the
coveted
information,
um
and
so
our
folks
um
are
well
aware
um
of
all
the
testing
um
sites
around
boston.
A
um
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
your
outstanding
work
on
this
issue
and
many
issues
across
the
city
commissioner,
irish
and
mr
bethune
and
assistant
commissioner
miller
as
well,
and
uh
the
isd
team.
The
boston
police
team
as
well
they're
they're,
providing
exceptional
service
to
our
residents,
often
often
criticized,
but
there
they
go
to
work
every
single
day
they
get
up
in
the
morning.
They
do
their
job
and
they're,
trying
to
they're
trying
their
best
to
um
keep
our
city
safe
and
all
residents
healthy,
um
as
others
are
as
well.
A
A
K
The
best
I
can
um
thank
you
for
the
makers
of
this
hearing.
uh
I
am
lori
radwin.
I
live
in
roslindale
and
I
have
a
phd
and
I'm
a
nurse,
so
uh
this
hearing
is
going
to
be
full
of
evidence
simply
put
as
in
health.
Care
processes
are
important,
but
outcomes
are
the
true
test
and
our
colleges
and
universities
have
not
done
well
when
controlling
covet
outbreaks
and
they
are
continuing
to
contribute
to
the
spike
in
cases
in
boston,
so
part
in
terms
of
parties
and
gatherings.
We've
seen
it
in
the
press.
K
K
um
So,
from
late
august,
through
late
october,
they
had
21
on
campus
events,
but
the
really
scary
part
is
they
had
over
five
times
that
number
off
campus.
There
were
121
events
off
campus
during
that
time,
and
a
bu
blog
also
described
that
a
single
one
night
off-campus
party,
led
to
a
cluster
of
14
cases.
K
College
athletics
events,
college
athletic
events
violate
governor
baker's
limits
because
they
exceed
25
persons.
University
academics
and
athletics
leadership
acknowledge
that
they
risk
the
spread
of
covid
and
they
also
acknowledge
that
they
would
have
really
consequential
financial
outcomes
if
they
don't
hold
these
events.
But
athletic
events
result
in
an
increase
in
campus
cover
cases,
it
can
be
as
low
as
25
percent
to
as
high
as
822
percent.
That's
not
a
typo
under
the
worst
case.
In
our
scenario,
um
this
is
the
rate
of
increase
that
scientists
calculated
for
the
worst
possible
scenario.
K
K
So,
according
to
the
scientifically
based
projections,
we're
going
to
have
to
expect
a
spike
in
bc,
coveted
cases
because
of
this
athletic
event,
I'll
I'll
say,
as
I
said
in
october
briefly,
that
campus
covet
cases
are
related
to
cover
cases
in
the
county.
uh
Researchers
tell
us
that
in
the
fall
when
colleges
opened,
they
had
an
increased
3,
000
additional
u.s,
coveted
cases
per
day
and
students
coming
from
outside
areas
with
high
cloven
races,
particularly
added
to
the
column.
K
So
in
summary,
despite
the
processes
that
bcbu
and
northeastern
put
into
place,
the
science
tells
us
that
the
outcomes
were
very
bad
and
based
on
science.
We
should
anticipate
more
spikes
in
college
and
county
coveted
cases
if
processes
aren't
changed
based
upon
the
science.
Common
sense
holds
that
all
upcoming
college
athletic
athletic
events
should
be
canceled
and
students
should
not
return
to
campuses.
In
the
spring,
thank
you.
A
A
Well
again,
thank
you
to
the
pianist
for
for
your
outstanding
leadership
for
your
testimony
again
to
my
colleagues,
uh
mayor
walsh's
team,
um
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
kerry
and
juan
at
central
staff
for
helping
us
organize
today's
testimony.
Today's
hearing,
thank
you,
everybody.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.