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Docket #0182 - Hearing regarding a supplemental sidewalk clearance program during snowstorms in Boston
B
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing.
Virtually
this
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health
recommendations
in
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
live
streamed
on
www.boston.gov,
slash
city
dash,
boston
dash
tv.
It
will
also
be
rebroadcast
at
a
later
date
on
xfinity
8,
rcn
82
in
fios
964..
B
B
B
B
The
administration
officials
that
are
here
with
us
include
chief
of
streets,
chris
osgood
and
michael
broll,
superintendent
of
streets
from
the
public
works
department.
B
C
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
flynn
and
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here.
This
hearing
order
really
grew
out
of
what
was
my
first
big
snowstorm
as
a
city
councilor,
which
was
in
december.
We
had
a
13-inch,
northeaster
and,
and
in
that
process
you
know
had
huge
appreciation
for
the
work
that
the
public
works.
C
Team
does
to
clear
all
of
our
roads,
including
when
you
get
hit
with
a
big
snowfall
like
that,
but
in
the
days
afterwards
heard
a
lot
from
pedestrians
folks
who
get
around
our
city
on
foot
and
by
wheel
on
the
sidewalk.
C
So
our
people
with
mobility
scooters
with
wheelchairs
with
strollers
just
finding
that
in
a
large
storm
like
that,
that
also
stays
cold,
where
the
snow
sort
of
freezes
over
the
sidewalks
can
become
impassable
for
our
people,
who
rely
on
them
to
get
around
and
had
a
number
of
constituents
who
felt
like
they
were
effectively
housebound
until
the
snow,
melted
away.
C
And
so,
and
so
this
this
hearing
order
really
came
out
of
an
interest
in
thinking
about
how
we
could
be
a
bit
more
systematic
about
prioritizing
those
pedestrian
needs
to
get
around
the
city.
To
do
critical
things,
access
groceries
visit,
you
know,
visit
family,
go
to
the
store
and,
and
really
thinking
about.
You
know
how
our
systems
could
be
improved
on
that
front.
C
So,
as
we
in
my
office
started
to
look
around
at
kind
of
potential
models,
we
discovered
that
a
number
of
cities,
mostly
slightly
or
a
lot
to
the
north
of
us,
have
have
pioneered
work
on
this
already
and
have
thought
about
ways
that
there
could
be
a
supplemental
city,
sidewalk
clearance
project
that
kicks
in
when
you
have
a
storm
above
a
certain
a
certain
number
of
inches,
and
so
we
found
examples
in
rochester
and
syracuse
new
york.
C
Actually
many
of
the
cities
and
towns
across
vermont,
a
number
of
cities
and
towns
across
canada
and
thought.
You
know.
I
think
we
might
be
just
far
enough
up
on
the
snow
line
in
boston
that
when
we
think
about
core
accessibility,
especially
for
people
with
mobility
challenges
in
the
city,
we
need
to
be
kind
of
re-centering
that
and
thinking
about
how
we
could
how
we
can
institute
a
program
to
help
support
the
kind
of
piecemeal
property
owner
based
sidewalk
clearance
norms
that
we
have
to
date.
C
So
that's
what
we're
hoping
to
talk
about
today,
I'm
really
grateful
to
chief
osgood
and
superintendent
brawl
and
for
being
here
from
the
city
side
and
for
all
the
work
they
do
on
snow
removal.
I
think
we're
safe
now,
but
then
again
it
snowed
on
sunday.
So
I
should
never
say
that
it
seemed
like
not
only
his
head
and-
and
I
want
to
give
yeah
a
special
thanks
to
cory
and
the
ceo
from
syracuse
for
joining
us
today.
C
I
think
I've
said
this
in
a
few
other
hearings,
but
it
is
a
major
silver
lining
of
the
zoom
hearing
format
that
we
are
able
to
invite
our
colleagues
from
other
parts
of
the
country
and
even
beyond
the
country,
and
and
ask
them
about
what
they're
doing
and
how
we
can
learn
from
it.
And
I
also
want
to
thank
brendan
from
here
from
walk,
boston
and
christiana
from
livable
streets.
C
Folks,
who've
been
advocating
for
a
long
time
for
improving
accessibility
around
the
city
and
really
recognizing
the
ways
that
you
know
snow.
Amongst
other
things.
Obviously,
we
look
to
improve
the
walking
environment
in
all
seasons,
but
snow
in
particular,
can
really
trap
a
lot
of
our
bostonians
inside
their
homes
in
certain
weather
conditions,
and
we
want
to
figure
out
how
to
move
beyond
that.
So
excited
hopeful
that
this
can
be
a
hearing
where
we
learn
from
syracuse
and
others.
C
We
hear
what
we're
doing
now
and
we
think
about
you
know
moving
forward
with
some
pilot
in
the
future
to
really
start
tackling
this
in
a
new
way.
So
thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
bark
at
this
time.
I
would
ask
I'd
like
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
they
would
like
to
give
brief
opening
statements
before
I
do
that
counselor
mejia
is
with
us
at
large,
and
council.
Wu
at
large
is
also
with
us
council
of
councillor
braden
from
austin
in
brighton.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
this
really
important
hearing.
I
feel
that
there's
a
real
need
for
this
very
often
after
a
snowstorm
snow
removal.
D
Thanks
to
the
good
efforts
of
our
our
colleagues
at
dpw,
they
do
an
incredible
job
of
clearing
the
roadways
and
I
think
when
we
we
get
into
trouble
when
we
come
to
cross
sidewalks
and
crosswalks
and
corners
where
sometimes
the
snowplow
piles
all
the
snow
up
and-
and
it
makes
it
really
difficult
for
folks
with
a
disability
or
using
an
assistive
device
such
as
a
walker
or
a
wheelchair.
D
I
also
my
background
is
as
a
physical
therapist,
and
I
know
that
when
an
elder
has
a
fall
and
breaks
their
hip,
it
can
be
ultimately
a
life-threatening
in
the
longer
term,
a
life-threatening
situation.
Despite
the
modern
advances
in
orthopedic
surgery,
I
feel
that
many
of
our
frail
elders,
their
life,
is
greatly
impacted.
The
quality
of
their
life
and
their
life
expectancy
is
greatly
impacted
by
that
experience.
D
I
also
think
we
have
an
issue
with
absentee
landlords
in
our
neighborhood
who
are
not
necessarily
as
diligent
about
clearing
their
sidewalks
and
and
removing
leaves
and
and
snow
and
ice
from
the
sidewalks
so
that
they're,
passable
and
safe
for
other
other
pedestrians
and
again
we
have
issues
with
them
with
the
bus
bus
stops
as
well.
Crosswalks
and
bus
stops
are
the
two
big
areas
that
really
impact
people's
ability
to
get
around
and
after
a
snowstorm.
So
I
really
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
thank
you
so
much.
E
Good
morning
and
thank
you,
chairman
flynn,
for
hosting
the
hearing
and
also
for
the
lead,
sponsor
counselor
bach
for
filing
my
office,
routinely,
gets
calls
and
emails
about
sidewalks
and
high
traffic
areas,
particularly
near
bus
stops
that
are
not
shoveled
during
storms
and
it's
probably
more.
E
The
onus
is
probably
more
on
the
mbta
for
that,
but
our
public
works
department
does
a
great
job
on
behalf
of
the
city.
Oftentimes
many
calls
we
get
are
a
result
of
of
different
jurisdictions.
In
some
instances,
private
companies-
you
know
working
to
clear,
you
know
driveways
and
sidewalks,
you
know
and
other
entities
at
different
times
throughout
the
day
or
evening
of
a
storm
and
then
oftentimes
the
city's
being
called
in
to
clean
up
the
mess.
I
should
say
so.
E
This
hearing
is
obviously
it's
an
important
opportunity
to
explore
how
we
could
discuss
efforts.
You
know
particularly
expanding
efforts
of
our
public
works
department.
I
know
from
experience
I
think,
during
the
previous
administration,
or
at
least
during
the
joe
canvan
casaza
days.
I
I
want
to
say
we
had
a
team
of
maybe
four
400
plus
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
we
have
that
type
of
manpower.
So
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
from
commissioner
bruhl
and
chief
osgood
as
to
sort
of
where
the
the
workforce
piece
of
this
has
gone.
E
You
know
helping
our
efforts
here
to
throw
a
shoulder
into
the
snow
removal,
but
I'm
I'm
also
interested
in
learning.
You
know
about
a
program
like
this
and
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense.
I
want
to
talk
about
manpower.
I
want
to
talk
about
liability,
making
sure
that
we
don't
incur
any
liability
in
that
situation.
E
Where
we
make
efforts
to
to
clear
you
know
private
sidewalks
of
of
snow
and
then
you
know,
there's
a
trip
and
fall
incident
and
then
there's
the
finger
pointing
making
sure
that,
as
a
municipality,
we
don't
incur
all
of
that
litigation.
If
you
will
so
again
interesting
concept,
you
know
probably
something
more
on
a
sort
of
a
seasonal,
slash,
temporary
job
opportunity
for
for
our
department,
but
really
want
to
talk
to
the
folks
that
do
it.
E
But,
and
then
anybody
in
like
to
give
commissioner
bruhl
shout
out
for
the
work
that
he
did
this
winter
during
the
snowstorms
that
we
had
and
hopefully
knock
on
wood-
I
don't
want
to
jinx
this,
but
other
than
this
cold
burst
there.
E
I'm
hoping
that
we're
out
of
the
snow
removal
business
until
until
next
season,
but
but
again,
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
guys
do
in
the
team
and
all
those
unsung
heroes
that
work
in
those
trucks
behind
those
plows
and
that
are
elbows
and
shoulders
behind
the
shovels
that
we
don't
often
see,
but
we
know
make
a
great
difference
here
in
the
city.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
F
Yes,
thank
you
to
the
chair
and
to
the
sponsor
for
holding
this
hearing.
When
our
office
first
heard
about
this
hearing,
everyone
had
their
own
nightmare
story
about
how
snow
removal
looks
like
in
boston.
F
I'm
particularly
curious
about
just
the
type
of
information
that
we
share
with
landlords
and
businesses,
because
sometimes
I
don't
know
about
y'all,
but
sometimes
the
the
way
that
people
shovel
it's
like
a
little
thin
little
line,
and
it's
like
okay,
you're
gonna
put
one
foot
in
front
of
the
other
just
to
get
through.
F
So
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
educating
the
public
about
what
safe
snow
removal
looks
like,
I
think,
maybe
we
need
to
drop
a
graph
for
sorts
of
what
that
looks
like,
because
we
make
a
lot
of
assumptions
that
people
know
what
snow
removal
is.
But
I
have
literally
walked
down
streets
and
I'm
like
yo
like
this
is
really
not
removed
like
it's
like
a
little
slither
a
line
and
you're
trying
to
walk
a
tight
rope.
And
if
you
have
a
disability,
it
just
makes
it
a
lot
harder
for
people.
F
G
Good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
so
much
to
the
lead
sponsor
and
the
chair
for
making
sure
this
hearing
happens
now
is
now
is
the
perfect
time
to
have
it
while
we're
moving
into
hopefully
a
quieter
phase
with
time
for
planning,
and
so
this
is,
as
we
all
know,
a
perennial
conversation
that
comes
up
in
the
city
and
one
that
has
so
many
impacts
across
accessibility
and
our
economy
and
the
recovery
as
well.
B
Thank
you,
councillor
wu.
I
would
just
like
to
again
welcome
the
pianist
for
being
here.
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
the
incredible
work.
Our
public
works
team
does,
every
year
day
in
and
day
out,
they're
dedicated
city
employees.
They
work
extremely
extremely
hard.
They
make
our
city
better
we're
proud
of
them.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
public
works
for
almost
40
years.
My
father
was
mayor.
We
we
worked
with
them.
B
Our
phone
number
was
published,
and
people
would
call
us
about
snow
removal
and
we
would
call
immediately
to
not
to
311
but
to
4500
and
work
with
the
public
works
team,
but
dedicated
workers
dedicated
employees,
unsung
heroes
of
our
city.
That's
my
first
point
in
my.
My
second
point
is
I
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
young
people,
professionals
in
boston
and
you
know
going
forward.
I
would
really
like
to
get
them
more
involved
during
snowstorms
in
helping
their
neighbor
being
a
better
neighbor.
B
It's
about
shoveling,
your
elderly
neighbor's
sidewalk,
it's
about
shoveling
for
a
person
with
disabilities.
It's
not
a
day
off
from
your
work,
it's
not
about
having
pizza
and
beer
and
relaxing
and
watching
a
basketball
game.
It's
about
helping
people
it's
about
giving
back.
So
those
are
the
two
points
I
wanted
to
make.
Having
said
that,
let's
ask
let's
open
it
up
to
chief
chris
osgood
for
opening
statements
from
the
city
administration
chief
oil
is
good.
H
Thanks
so
much
counselor
thanks,
so
much
guess
what
flynn
kessler
bach
casa
breed
and
council
flaherty
customer
here,
councillor
wu
for
all
of
your
opening
comments.
Thank
you
for
the
panel
for
being
here.
I
do
want
to
remind
you.
I
H
So
I'll
launch
back
in
my
opening
remarks
are
actually
fairly
short.
What
mike-
and
I
want
to
do
with
our
super
kind
of
street
operations,
micro
and
I
wanted
to
do-
was
basically
just
provide
context
around
what
we
do
today
and
really
have
that
be
as
a
precursor
for
any
future
conversations
and
working
sessions
for
around
a
number
of
issues
which
you
all
raised
in
your
opening
statements
around,
who
is
responsible
for
the
sidewalk
for
how
snow
operations
are
funded
and
for
how
how
the
actual
operations
work.
H
I
do
want
to
note
that
april
17th
of
last
year
was
our
last
snowstorm,
where
we
had
three
inches
of
of
snowfall
and
in
fact,
2020
was
the
shortest
distance
between
sort
of
most
like
significant
accumulated
snowfalls
in
the
city's
history,
where
we
had
snowfalls
in
both
april
and
october.
So,
while
I
hope
we
are
out
of
out
of
most
of
it,
they're
still
we're
still
very
much
focused
on
winter,
so
just
quickly.
H
First,
on
the
legal
side,
I'm
going
to
talk
budget
side
and
then
the
operational
side
on
the
legal
side,
that's
got
some
ways
to
counsel
flaherty's
points.
H
The
responsibility
around
snow
is
shared
by
you
know,
by
many
departments,
as
well
as
by
by
property
owners
across
the
city
in
terms
of
the
roads,
the
city-owned
roads,
the
snow,
plowing
and
assaulting
of
those
roads
is
really
the
responsibility
of
the
public
works
department.
H
State-Owned
roads
are
obviously
the
responsibility
of
the
state
sidewalks.
The
municipal
code
places
that
responsibility
on
the
adjacent
property
owner
and
obviously,
where
that
adjacent
property
is,
is
city
owned,
whether
it's
a
case
of
a
city-owned
bridge,
a
park,
a
public
works
yard,
etc.
It
is
that
city's
department
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
those
adjacent
sidewalks.
H
Otherwise
it
is
the
responsibility
of
the
adjacent
private
property
owner
right
now,
and
the
rules
that
folks,
I
think
are
are
very
well
aware-
are
that
those
sidewalks
need
to
be
clear
and
passable
within
three
hours
after
the
end
of
the
snowfall
or
three
hours
after
dawn.
H
If
the
snow
stops
falling
overnight-
and
it
comes
from
his
point-
the
the
rules
are
that
you
must
be
able
to
provide
a
42-inch,
clear
path
of
travel,
which
is
the
standard
that
we
look
to
hold
property
owners
to,
and
that's
what's
currently
in
the
municipal
code.
That
is
information
that
we
share
out
both
sort
of
through
press
conferences
and
through
a
mailer
that
goes
out
to
every
every
household
in
the
city
of
boston
and
is
in
10
different
languages
on
the
city's
website.
H
But
to
your
point
is
an
educational
message
which
I
think
that
we
very
much
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
to
figure
out
how
we
continue
to
to
promote
to
make
sure
that
every
single
property
owner
is
both
aware
and
delivering
to
that
standard
on
the
financial
side,
which
is
sort
of
an
issue
which
brings
me
headed
into
budget
season.
I
know
that
all
of
you
are
quite
aware
of
the
fy
21
budget
for
snow
operations
in
the
city
of
boston
is
21
million
dollars.
H
If
that
were
a
standalone
department,
it
would
be
the
10th
largest
apartment
in
the
city.
So
obviously,
this
is
a
place
which
we
are
investing
a
significant
amount
of
funding
today
and
there's
that
funding
is
both
for
public
works,
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
the
streets,
as
well
as
for
city
departments,
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
sidewalks
adjacent
to
their
properties.
H
So
contracts
for
things
like
our
school
department,
department
of
neighborhood
development,
et
cetera,
operationally,
as
has
been
referenced
during
the
course
of
this
call,
the
the
public
works
department
really
through,
first
and
foremost,
what
is
today
a
workforce
of
150
people
in
the
highway
operations.
Division
really
focuses
on
plowing
the
roads
assaulting
the
roads
that
work
as
then
supplemented
through
15
contracts,
geographically
spread
throughout
the
entire
city,
which
allow
us
for
our
most
significant
snowstorms,
the
type
that
councilor
bach
referenced.
H
Like
the
december
snowstorm
we
had
in
in
2020,
where
about
13
inches
of
snow
fell,
we
can
ramp
up
to
around
750
to
800
pieces
of
equipment
across
the
entire
city
and,
as
I
think,
members
of
the
council
are
well
aware
and
have
supported
through
previous
budget
efforts.
H
We
have
sort
of
expanded
that
the
set
of
snow
equipment
to
be
able
to
also
address
some
of
the
new
pieces
of
infrastructure
we're
putting
into
into
our
roadways
most
specifically
our
network
of
protected
bike,
lane
infrastructure
that
we've
we've
installed
and
so
added
new
pieces
of
equipment
to
be
able
to
directly
ensure
that
those
bike
lanes
are
free
and
clear
of
snow
following
snowstorms,
obviously
a
whole
bunch
of
city
departments
who
are
not
on
this
call,
who
also
have
significant
snow
operations.
H
Our
school
department,
the
department
of
member
development,
our
parks
department,
all
of
whom
have
snow
operations
that
really
focus
on
their
properties
and
their
sidewalks.
Following
enduring
and
following
a
snowstorm-
and
you
know
we
in
addition
to
the
educational
efforts
that
we
push
through
social
media
through
press
releases
through
the
mailer
around
property
owner
responsibilities.
We
also
do
follow
up
with
enforcement
through
the
code
enforcement
division
within
the
public
works
department.
H
Following
every
snowstorm,
where
our
code
enforcement
team
will
be
out
making
sure
that
property
owners
have
been
able
to
provide,
do
appropriate
snow
clearance
and
there's
a
sort
of
graduated
fine
schedule
based
upon
the
type
of
property,
if
a
property
owner
has
failed
to
shovel
their
sidewalk
and
that
property
is
a
residential
building
with
16
units
or
less
or
fewer
than
16
units.
It's
a
50,
fine
above
16
units.
It's
a
100,
fine,
a
commercial
property.
H
It's
a
200
fine
and
they
will
issue
tickets
accordingly,
sort
of
following
up
on
the
educational
side,
with
enforcement
side,
to
really
make
sure
that
to
council
members
point
that
people
are
aware
of
the
standards
and
that
we
are
collectively
being
able
to
provide
a
city
which
every
single
person
can
be
able
to
get
around.
Just
a
final
bit
of
quick
context
that
mike
and
I
want
to
provide
while
there
is
really
no
such
thing
as
a
typical
winter
in
boston.
H
This
past
2020,
2021
serve
winter,
has
been
so
far
a
pretty
good
benchmark
for
what
winters
can
be
like
in
our
city,
where
we
have
at
least
one
sort
of
significant
snowfall.
So
far,
the
one
that
has
happened
so
far
was
that
one
in
in
december,
several
snowfalls
that
are
served
in
the
four
inch
to
ten
inch
range.
We've
had
three
such
snowfall
so
far
over
the
course
of
this
winter
and
then
another
sort
of
ten
or
so
that
are
fewer
than
three
inches.
H
And
then
you
know
a
dozen
at
least
sort
of
sort
of
icing
events
or
snow
squalls
like
the
one
that
happened
this
past
sunday,
where
teams
are
also
out
making
sure
that
roads
are
properly
assaulted
and
safe
for
travel
and
to
counselor
box
sort
of
you
know
remarks
and
I
think
something
which
which
we
are
all
familiar
with.
H
It's
really
those
those
larger
snow
storms
that
are
followed
by
deeper
freezes
where
the
most
sort
of
concerns
are
raised
around
around
sidewalks
around
intersections,
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversation
about
with
all
of
you
about
how
the
city,
through
through
its
operations
through
its
budget
through
sort
of
the
city,
ordinance,
can
think
about
how
we
ensure
that
all
of
our
residents
are
able
to
get
around.
So
unless
mike
has
anything
to
be
able
to
add
I'm.
I
think
we're
open
for
questions.
J
No,
I
think
I'd
just
say
chris.
As
always,
you
hit
everything.
I
would
just
note
that
that
when
we
talk
about
snow
events,
it's
it's.
You
know
what
used
to
be
the
old
clipper
that
you
would
see
on
the
forecast,
which
was
a
quick
hit,
we're
getting
longer
duration
snowstorms.
So
when
we
talk
about
comedy
events,
we
also
talk
about
links
of
events
and
how
manpower
plays
into
that
and
making
that
150
or
so
workforce
here
safely
throughout
it.
These
events
are,
you
know
they.
J
They
don't
just
end
with
the
snowfall.
They
end
with
folks
shuffling
out
the
next
day
and
you
know
refilling
a
street.
So
it's
very
much
appreciated
the
council's
kind.
Words
about
the
efforts
of
the
men
and
women
of
public
works.
The
winter
months
are
very
hard
on
them
in
there
and
they
and
they
step
up
to
the
challenge
every
year,
and
that
challenge
is
just
growing
with
these
with
it
with
it.
J
With
the
network
of
bike
lanes
that
the
chief
has
mentioned
and
looking
forward
to
hearing
what
you
know,
ideas
we
have
that
are
coming
from
neighboring
towns
or
cities
or
states,
and
how
the
city
as
a
whole
can
kind
of
look
at.
You
know
always
providing
the
best
service
we
can
provide
safely
thanks
chief.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Superintendent
brawl.
Thank
you,
chief
osgood.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
my
colleague
from
dorchester
city
council
of
frank
baker.
Thank
you,
council
baker,
counselor
book.
B
I'd
like
to
start
with
questions
from
our
colleagues
to
the
administration
panel,
would
you
like
to
start
first
council
block.
C
Sure
I'll
just
ask
a
couple
of
questions
and
thank
you
so
much
for
all
that
and
like
yeah
just
want
to
emphasize
how
much
we
appreciate
the
work
that
gets
done
on
this
already,
and
I
I
am
mindful
of
kind
of
you
know
the
challenge
of
adding
another
territory
right,
which
is
the
sidewalk
territory
and-
and
I
do
think
it's
really
based
on
the
feedback.
C
I've
heard
it's
really
about
those
big
storms
where
that
tends
to
be
where
I
think
we
get
those
goat
paths
from
people
who
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
work
to
clear
it
out
and
then
also
it
freezes
and
stays
for
days
and
and
yeah.
It's
sort
of
interested
in
how
we
can
emulate
some
of
the
things.
So
I
know
we'll
hear
about
syracuse
shortly.
I
wondered
if
you
could
just
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
the
city
departments.
C
Kind
of
across
the
board
are
finding
ways
to
clear
various
sidewalk
portfolios
already
because,
because
of
the
sidewalks
that
are
adjacent
to
their
property,
so
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak,
you
know
obviously
from
public
works
perspective,
the
ones
that
you're
responsible
for
but
also
kind
of
what
you
know
about
what
bps
is
doing
and
parks
and
such
kind
of
what
types
of
equipment
we
use
already
for
clearing
cons
like
significant
side,
work,
portfolios
and
and
sort
of
yeah.
What?
C
Also,
whether
on
the
sidewalk
side
for
the
sidewalks
of
the
city,
does
clear
whether
we
use
like
something
different
salt,
wise
from
what
we
use
on
the
roads
or
if
it's
the
same.
So
those
were
just
two.
I
mean
to
me:
that's
like
the
the
to
do
an
expansion
like
this.
It's
people,
power
equipment
and
you
know
salt
equivalent.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
about
those
pieces.
J
So
yeah,
so
so,
where
we
do
step
onto
a
sidewalk,
it's
a
it's
a
bridge
deck.
So
there's
the
the
total
portfolio
of
bridges
across
the
city.
Well,
we
own
some,
the
mbta
owned
some
in
mascot
we've
actually
worked
out
and
it
wasn't.
We
it's
previous
administration
worked
out
an
operation
where
each
of
each
of
these
three
agencies
have
a
different
area
of
the
city.
J
So
we've
got
an
area
where
we
clear
whether
we
own
that
bridge
or
not
mbta
will
have
a
different
section
of
the
city
and
and
massdot
as
well.
So
that's
that's.
That's
one
section
of
sidewalks
that
we
clear
we
also
clear
sidewalks
abutting
any
one
of
our
eight
district
yards.
So
that's
you
know
for
folks
out
there.
That's
you
know,
that's
it!
That's
the
highland
street
yard,
that's
the
dana
rav
yard,
the
western
av
yard
and
the
like.
J
So
we
clear
those
to
city
code,
if
you,
if
you're
listening
to
the
public
works
radio
throughout
the
snowstorm
people
who
are
working
very
hard
on
the
street,
are
often
reminded
by
people
like
me
to
make
sure
that
they're
hitting
the
sidewalks
we
we
we
do
use
salt
when
we
you
know
when
it's
when
it's
on
one
of
those
events.
There
are
some
times
where
we'll
use
a
substance
called
urea.
J
It
doesn't
eat
away
at
the
concrete
as
fast
it's
it's
it's,
I
guess
less
abrasive
material.
We
tend
to
use
from
our
from
our
bridge
team.
That
isn't
always
the
case.
Sometimes
you
know
we're
throwing
salt
to
keep
up
with
the
storm
to
make
sure
we
maintain
that
48
plus
inches
and
maintain
the
safest
path
of
travel.
That's
so
so
that
would
be
the
public.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
and
then
one
of
the
pieces
are
is
our
muni
lots.
J
We've
got
public
works,
took
over
the
care
and
maintenance
of
our
municipal
lots
about
a
year
ago,
so
this
is
our
first
winter
with
them.
So,
while
we're
clearing,
while
the
contract,
is
clearing
that
lot
as
well,
we're
also
staring
for
that
sidewalk
and
again
we
don't.
We
don't
go
to
the
48
inches.
We
go
to
the
clear
full
sidewalk
to
you
know
to
provide
the
service
that
we
hope
everyone's
providing.
J
So
this
so
for
the
bridges
we
have,
we
use,
we
use
contractors
who
come
in
and
they
can
and
and
they
can
shovel-
I
mean
they
can
literally
use
the
old-fashioned,
shovel
and
and
toss
salt.
We
do
own
a
couple
through
our
bridge
department,
small
sidewalk
machines,
they're,
very
lightweight.
They
don't
travel
as
far
so
those
would
do
our
bridges
that
are
closest
to
our
frontage
road
yard.
Luckily,
we
do
have
a
lot
of
bridges
in
that
you
know
berkeley
herald
front.
J
I'm
sorry,
east
4th
stretch
up
so
our
west
footstretch
they're,
very
small
lightweight
pieces
of
equipment
that
aren't
capable
to
traverse
to
hypoc.
But
I
I
want
to
say
that
the
inventory
of
those
are
three
to
four.
Currently
but
again,
a
lot
of
its
shovel.
A
lot
of
it
is
our
bridge.
J
Superintendent
has
a
contracts
out
with
small
landscaping
companies
that
will
that
will
go
the
old
method
to
clear
the
sidewalks
on
those
bridges
and
then
on
the
in
the
in
the
uni
lots
the
contractors
there
will
use
shovels
where
they,
where
they
have
to
when
the
smaller
there's
that
there's
a
lot
on
center
streets
that
are
real
small
across
from
the
school,
the
real
small
sidewalk.
They
got
to
go
shovel
there
when
they
can
use
their
larger
piece
of
snowblowers.
They'll
they'll
actually
use
those.
J
It's
really
everything's
dependent
on
what
they
have
and
then
what
that?
What
that
asset
looks
like
for
access.
C
And
the
last
question
for
me
is
just
because
I
have
more
questions
once
we
hear
from
syracuse,
but
but
what
is
there
a
map
of
for
you
guys
sort
of
like
no
man's
lands?
C
One
thing
that's
come
up,
for
instance,
in
kenmore
square
in
my
district
there's
an
island
that
you
have
to
step
onto
to
cross
a
part
of
the
square,
but
it's
it's
floating
out.
It's
not
in
front
of
anybody's
property,
and
so
nobody
clears
it.
But
if
it's
blocked
it's
impossible
for
a
pedestrian
to
get
through
the
square,
and
I'm
that
one
has
come
to
my
attention.
I'm
the
district
counselor
for
that
neck
of
the
woods,
but
I
wondered
sort
of
like
did
those
types
of
things
land
to
public
works.
J
So,
council,
buck
you've
got
a
few
of
those.
You've
got
some
on
someone
that,
with
the
old
champions,
restaurant
is
down
near
the
hotels
and
the
back
side
of
the
peru.
J
You've
got
a
couple
of
those,
so
we
utilize
pic
and
the
brains
down
there
who
who
have
all
the
planning-
and
you
know
who
owns
what
readily
available
a
lot
of
our
folks
from
the
field,
will
reach
out
to
todd
lining
and
we
get
so
then
you
know,
then
then
we
get
that
you
know
base
of
knowledge
and
we
know
it's
nobody's
or
it's
the
t's
or
it's
or
it's
it's
it's
a
massdot
thing
above
that
you
know
that
exit
that
that
ramp
going
down
there
behind
the
brew,
mall
anyways.
J
That's
that's
not
one
of
them
so
that,
if
those
become
part
of
our
inventory
by
way
of
post
storm,
we
don't
own
it,
but
we,
but
but
you
know,
multiple
311
cases
we,
like
pavlov's
dog.
In
a
way
you
know
the
bell
gets
wrong
and
you
know
if
no
one
owns
it.
We
got
to
address
it.
So,
that's
that's
how
we
come
to
know
those
thoughts
and
then
know
them.
Redundantly.
C
J
Blocked
we
certainly
have
no
policy
stating
pile
snow
into
crosswalks.
So
I
you
know,
that's,
that's
that's
the
fresh
answer,
but
you
know
in
reality
you
know
the
these
folks
are
pushing
snow.
We've
got.
You
know
an
800
piece
equipment,
snow
storm
like
the
december
one,
you
know
rightfully,
so
we've
got
multiple
pieces
of
equipment.
I
think
the
policy
is
less
a
policy
and
it's
more
of
a
reaction
piece
that
you
know.
If
we
see
a
problem,
we
shouldn't
see
a
problem
twice
in
that
area.
J
They
are
pushing
snow.
We
are,
we
are
trying
to
move
it
in
between
cars
and
some
other
issues,
but
we
don't.
We
don't
advocate
push
and
we
don't
appreciate
when
that
happens,
and
we
have
to
react
to
it
after
the
fact
with
those
150
employees
in
there
at
about
40
ish
snow
instructors,
we
call
them
you
know,
and
that
and
and
and
there
and
and
they're
highlighting
those
spots.
So
we
don't
have
them
a
second
time.
B
D
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you.
D
For
the
great
work
you
do,
I
think
we're
just
significant
challenges
for
pedestrians,
especially
and
country
blockers
already
asked
some
of
my
questions
with
regard
to
crosswalks.
I
think
the
crosswalk
issue
is
particularly
difficult
for
folks
who
are
have
mobility
issues
and
very
often
the
the
the
snow
was
piled
in
on
the
crosswalk
at
the
edge
of
the
crosswalk
on
either
side
of
the
roadway,
and
it
is
really
impossible
for
most
people,
especially
elders
and
folks,
with
a
disability
to
get
across
safely.
So
that's
the
big
concern.
D
Is
there
a
what
are
the
penalties
for
not
the
long
term
if
you're,
a
chronic
offender
and
you
just
pay
the
fine
every
two
or
three
times
a
winter
and
then
just
let
it
go?
Is
there
a
way
to
track
people
who
are
chronic
offenders.
H
So
we
council,
we
have
done
some
of
that
analysis
and
have
thought
about.
Are
there
updates
to
the
way
to
the
current
fine
schedule
that
would
sort
of
address
that?
But
the
short
answer
to
your
question
right
now
is
is
no
that
there
it
doesn't
escalate
based
upon
number
of
fines.
It's
simply
the
same
fine
and
whether
whether
that
the
right
intervention
is
sort
of
an
escalating
fine
schedule
or
I'm
frankly,
sort
of
like
leading
with
a
conversation.
D
The
no
man's
land
issue
in
terms
of
the
the
crosswalks
like
islands,
traffic
islands,
tend
to
be
a
big
problem
as
well.
You
can,
you
can
get
the
crosswalk
might
be
cleared,
but
then,
when
you
get
to
the
other
side,
there's
a
traffic
island,
that's
totally
just
a
mound
of
snow
that
you
can't
walk
in.
So
again,
I'd
just
like
to
flag
that
issue
as
a
concern.
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
have
more
questions
when
we
hear
from
our
folks
from
syracuse.
But
that's
all
for
me
now.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
council
brave,
thank
you,
council
brainerd
and
I
failed
to
mention
city
council,
renis
or
sabi
george
is
with
us.
I
want
to.
I
want
to
thank
councilworssave
george
next
up
at
large
city
council.
Next
up
is
city
councilor,
michael
flaherty,.
E
Thank
you,
mr
truman,
and
these
are
questions
that
probably
more
suited
for
a
working
session.
If
that
is
the
desire
of
the
chair
and
the
lead
sponsor,
I
guess
just
wanted
to
see
whether
or
not
dpw
had
any
hesitations
or
concerns
about
a
a
program
like
this
wanted
to
know
whether
or
not
any
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
commonwealth.
E
Have
any
programs
like
this
and
then
obviously
want
to
know,
get
dpw's
perspective
on
what
a
potential
budget
for
a
program
like
this
would
look
like
in
terms
of
the
costs
associated
with
it
in
and
then
flush
out
some
of
the
liability
issues,
I'm
assuming
that
would
have
to
be
careful
around
the
code
as
to
whether
or
not
if
we
made
changes
to
the
code
that
might
open
us
up
to
to
some
liability.
E
So
I
think
the
language
would
obviously
and
again
these
this
may
be
more
appropriate
for
a
working
session.
If.
E
See
fit,
but
those
are
kind
of
that's
where
I'm
at
whether
or
not
they
have
any
hesitations.
Is
there
a
program
any
other
program
similar
to
this
in
the
commonwealth
and
what
the
cost
of
them
associated
the
liability
would
be.
H
So
counselor,
I'm
happy
to
sort
of
start
in
mike.
Please
feel
free
to
add
correct,
so
I
you
know,
I
I
think
we
are
certainly
we
are
very
familiar
with
with
this
challenge,
as
a
city
have
certainly
an
interest
in
working
together
working
with
all
of
you
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
actually
take?
H
How
do
we
actually
think
about
those
changes,
whether
it's
to
code
to
our
educational
efforts,
our
enforcement
efforts,
our
operations
and,
consequently,
council
of
your
point
kind
of
budget
impacts
of
sort
of
any
alterations
to
our
service?
H
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
different
paths
that
it
could
take
and-
and
perhaps
your
point
around
a
working
session-
maybe
is
the
sort
of
the
right
way
the
right
form
to
kind
of
work
through
what
some
of
those
could
look
like
you
know,
one
is
simply
building
off
of
the
existing
approach,
which
is
around
this.
H
This
current
delineation
of
responsibility
where,
but
perhaps
a
bit
to
customer
hill's
point:
do
we
find
ways
to
both
increase
our
educational
efforts,
around
responsibilities
and
to
council
britain's
point
also
think
about
changes
to
enforcement.
H
That
might
that
might
complement
that,
where
there's
not
really
a
change
in
core
city
operations,
we're
just
simply
sort
of
pushing
the
civic
engagement
message
more
at
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
which
is
much
more
comprehensive
of
a
you
know,
a
supplemental
snow
clearance
or
program
on
sidewalks
citywide,
which
obviously
to
cancer
box
point,
has
some
very
significant
impacts
on
the
staffing
that
might
be
needed
and
the
equipment
that
might
be
needed,
but
but
gets
that
some
of
the
concerns
that
are
being
raised
in
this
call-
and
then
you
know
somewhere
in
the
middle
between
those
two-
is
a
little
bit
of
what
you
know
because
of
breeding
council
buck
you
both
referenced,
you
know:
are
there
some
targeted
interventions
that
we
can
be
looking
at
that
are
more
around
some
of
the
intersections
or
medians
for
crossing
island,
some
of
which
we
are
already
doing?
H
I
think
all
of
those
things
come
with
implications
of
frankly,
which
city
department
is
taking
those
on.
How
do
we
fund
it,
staff
it
and
prioritize
appropriately?
But
I
think
all
of
those
things
are
directions
that
we're
happy
to
learn
from
other
cities
and
towns
on
hear
from
our
advocate
partners
who
are
on
this
call
on
and
hear
from
all
of
you
on,
engage
and
further
conversations.
J
Correct
I
just
I'd
specifically
to
the
to
the
council's
question
about
you,
know
the
ability
and
willingness
to
take
on
the
challenge,
and
you
know
we
do
850
miles
of
roadway
and
we
do
it.
You
know
in
large
part
because
of
chief
hooley
commissioner
dempsey,
commissioner
long
and
then
you
know
in
constant
communication
with
them
to
make
sure
apparatus
and
the
ambulances
can,
you
know,
get
where
they
need
to
go
even
in
two
inch,
an
hour
snowstorms
and
that's
always
been
the
focus
of
public
works,
though,
and
ice
response.
J
It's
it's
something
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
keep.
I
mean
we're
a
city
of
hills
right
and
it's
you
know
in
snow.
We
talk
if
you
again,
if
you
heard
the
radio
chat
and
you
shouldn't
hear
all
of
it.
But
if
you
heard
it,
you
would
hear
talk
of
parker
hill
fairmont,
you
know
wellington,
hills
and
seven
hill.
You
know
you
just
do
it's.
It's
we've
got
1400
miles
of
sidewalks
in
the
city.
J
We
have
24
000
pet
ramps.
That's
a
lot
of
work,
that's
a
lot
of
thought
and
you
know
to
the
point
about.
Maybe
a
working
session
or
something
like
that
it
would
it
would
it
would
take
a
you
know,
a
really
good
thought
and
some
you
know
good
ideas
and
never
mind
resources,
but
you
know
to
the
care
and
custody
of
850
miles
of
roadway
in
a
snowstorm
for
public
safety
is
public
works
is
number
one
priority.
J
It's
not
a
perfect
game,
but
it's
something
that
we
have
to
constantly
stay,
diligent
on
and
worry
about,
and
so
to
point
council
flaherty.
It
would
be
a
tough
thought
to
expand
energy
off
of
that
priority
from
from
this
small
unit.
Doesn't
you
know
it?
You
know
it's
it's
it's
just
it's
it's
an
extra
portfolio,
I
think,
was
the
word
that
was
mentioned.
That
has
to
be
somewhere
where
it
can
be
done
appropriately
and
effectively
and
be
successful.
So
I
just
leave
it
at
that.
I.
B
Think,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
of
flaherty
we're
also
joined
by
our
colleague
city,
councilor,
matt,
o'malley,
district
city
council
and
district
city
council
lydia
edwards
as
well.
Thank
you.
Counselors
next
up
city
council
at
large,
mejia,
council,
megha.
F
Yes,
thank
you.
I'm
just
curious.
How
was
the
42-inch
clearing
determined
and
what
is
the
reasoning
behind
it?
Do
we
know
if
that's
the
standard
in
other
cities
and
I'm
also
curious,
how
does
the
city
connect
with
local
community
organizations
main
streets,
civic
associations,
etc,
to
inform
them
about
how
the
city
of
boston
is
addressing
slow
removal?
Going
back
to
the
question
around
like
that
community,
engagement
and
education,
I
think
that
partnering
up
with
some
of
these
local
organizations
might
be
a
good
way
and
I
think
42
inches.
F
It
might
be
helpful
for
us
to
kind
of
show
a
visual
of
what
that
looks
like
because
I
I'll
google
it
and
show
me
a
graph
of
what
that
looks
like.
So
I
think
that
it
goes
back
again
to
my
point,
around
understanding,
information
and
really
being
explicit
about
what
that
looks
like
through
visuals
might
be
a
really
great
way
to
show
what
a
properly
cleared
out
situation
looks
like.
F
So
that's
just
something
I
just
wanted
to
just
add
and
share
with
you
all
and
then
I'm
just
curious
of
cmbta
or
other
state-owned
property
that
is
not
properly
shoveled.
How
does
the
city
bring
that
to
the
state's
attention?
What
kind
of
like?
What's
their
accountability,
for
what
that
looks
like
on
the
state
level.
H
H
They
they
do
issue
fines
to
to
anyone,
including
ourselves,
so
we
hold
ourselves
accountable,
and
so
that
also
does
include
include
the
state.
H
If,
if
there
are
cases
where
whether
it's
an
unshuttled
sidewalk,
the
42
inches
is
what
is
specifically
in
the
the
city
of
boston
code
right
now,
16-12
dot
16
for
those
of
you
who
are
interested
in
looking
up
happy
through
the
chair
to
sort
of
share
that
around
afterwards,
and
that
I
think
stems
from,
I
assume-
stems
from
an
accessibility
requirement
that
was
identified
at
that
time.
H
But
again,
if
that
needs
to
be
updated,
happy
to
work
with
christian
makash
and
and
with
all
of
you
to
see
if
there's
a
way
which
that
should
be
updated
and
in
the
notion
of
just
figuring
out
like
how
do
we
actually
sort
of
explain
what
42
inches
look
like
better
communicate
that
I
think,
whether
it's
through
social
media
through
our
through
our
annual
mail
or
that
goes
out
every
winter,
happy
to
sort
of
think
about
how
we
can
how
we
can
make
that
clearer
and
and
really
reinforce
that
message
that
message,
along
with
the
message
of
asking
residents,
to
really
focus
on
pedestrian
ramps,
shoveling,
sidewalks
and
after
storms,
making
sure
that
our
catch
basins
are
also
cleared
are
sort
of
the
principal
sort
of
civic
engagement,
shoveling
messages
that
we
try
to
get
out.
H
And
anyway,
I
appreciate
the
feedback
that
there's
more
than
we
can
be
doing
there
did.
I
account
capture
all
your
questions.
F
Yeah,
no,
I
think,
maybe
it
it
might
be
helpful
to
to
work
alongside
the
council
to
just
figure
out
kind
of
do.
We
need
to
expand
the
minimum
number
of
inches
that
need
to
be
shoveled.
I
just
think
that
you
know
that
may
be
something
that
we
may
want
to
consider
doing
in
the
future
and
again
I
think
that
probably
would
be
like
a
follow-up
question
or
I
mean
a
follow-up
working
session,
and
I
I
think
there
is
something
to
be
said.
I
know
we
talked
a
lot.
I've
been
talking
about
the
sidewalks.
F
I
I
just
also
want
to
really
be
really
super,
mindful
that
there
are
some
folks
who
even
ride
their
bikes,
even
when
they're
snow
storms,
to
get
to
point
a
to
point
b,
which
kudos
to
them
for
for
doing
that,
and
I
I
think
that
creating
some
space
for
them
to
also
kind
of
help
inform
what
the
new
what
requirements
could
look
like
would
be.
I
think,
extremely
helpful
to
include
them
in
those
conversations,
and
I
do
think
that
some
of
the
some
of
the
the
non-profit
organizations
in
the
community
outreach.
F
H
One
quick
note,
counselor.
Sorry
on
your
last
point.
I
know
that
both
that
commissioner
makash
commissioner,
shea
and
I
know
actually
many
of
you
sort
of
individually
have
also
been
very
much
promoting
that
that
message
of
engagement
by
community
organizations
particularly
focused
on
helping
shovel
out
neighbors
in
need
and
seniors
in
our
city.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
put
in
on
that
and
perhaps
in
a
follow-up
session
we
can
have
my
conversation
with
the
elderly
commission.
I
think,
with
the
strong
commission
and
with
with
chris's
team.
B
Thank
you
councilman
here
next
up
is,
is
councilwoman
before
I
take
counselor
wu.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
chief
osgood
for
highlighting
the
important
role
that
commissioner
mikash
plays
working
closely
with
the
disability.
Commission
is
a
critical
part
of
snow
removal.
B
I
talked
to
kristen
during
every
snow,
storm
and
she's,
on
top
of
then
she's
working
closely
with
superintendent
bruhl
she's
working
closely
with
chris
osgood's
team
and
danny's
team
as
well.
So
again,
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
chris
for
including
and
making
sure
that
christian
is
part
of
the
ongoing
discussions.
G
B
We'll
go
back
to
we'll
go
back
to
frank
up.
Next
will
be
city
council,
ernesto
sabi,
george.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
just
gonna
fill
up
my
coffee
cup
and
thank
you
for
everyone
who's
here
today.
I
tuned
in
a
few
minutes
late.
So
I
hope
I'm
not
asking
any
questions,
but
just
a
follow-up
question
on
the
city
and
state
city
and
state
property:
that's
not
properly
shoveled.
How
much
money
have
we
collected
in
fines,
in
particular
from
the
state?
That's
what
I'm
most
interested
in.
K
Perfect
thanks,
I'm
also
multitasking
here
you
know.
I
think
that
this
is
really
an
exciting
thing
to
explore
and
I
think
it's
a
certainly
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
make
winter
a
little
bit
easier
for
our
residents
and
I
know
councilor
brock
mentioned
a
number
of
cities.
In
her
opening
remarks.
Sweden
conducted
a
national
study
of
the
impact
of
snow
clearance
policies
and
they
found
that,
because
swedish
swedish
women
are
more
likely
to
walk
that
it.
You
know
disproportionately
impacts
them,
and
you
know.
K
Certainly
I
didn't
realize
how
important
it
was
to
to
clear
snow
until
I
started
pushing
a
baby
carriage
myself
and
you
just
think
about
the
impacts
that
it
has
in
particular
on
women
in
particular
on
parents.
It's
you
know
that
the
the
need
to
do
this
quickly
is
is
really
important
and
I
think
you
know
councilman.
He
has
pointed
around
working
with
community
organizations
and
in
particular
our
main
streets
districts
when
we
think
about
accessing
our
local
business
districts.
How
important
all
of
that
is.
K
You
know
how
often
we're
finding
how
much
we're
collecting
in
fines,
especially
on
that
state
piece
and
just
how
we
you
know,
can
work
more
collaboratively
to
get
this
done
across
our
city,
so
just
grateful
for
the
topic
and
the
opportunity
to
to
listen
and
to
learn
and
to
do
more.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
maker.
B
Thank
thank
you.
Counselor
sabi
george
next
up
is
city
councilor,
matt
o'malley,
but
before
I
go
to
matt,
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
city
council
shout
out
to
matt
walsh,
brandon
turner
and
sean
mclogan
for
excellent
work
as
well.
I
feel
to
mention
them.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
city,
councilor
o'malley.
L
Chairman
good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
apologize
I
was
joining.
This
zoom
call
a
little
bit
late.
Obviously
I
want
to
thank
the
maker
counselor
block
for
her
leadership
here.
L
As
my
11th
and
final
year
on
this
body
wraps
up,
I
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
also
acknowledge
the
incredible
work
of
chief
osgood
and
commissioner
brawl,
both
of
whom
had
far
I
have
more
years
in
this
as
public
service
than
I
do,
but
have
been
amazing
partners
in
this,
and
in
my
time,
in
my
time
on
this
body,
we've
seen
the
snowiest
winter
in
boston's
history
in
2014
and
2015,
and
I
don't
think
2019
2020
was
the
least
snowy
winter,
but
it
was
certainly
one
of
the
one
of
the
the
lesser
amounts.
L
Obviously,
climate
change
has
played
a
significant
role
in
these
major
weather
events
and
we're
seeing
it
reflected
in
how
the
city
can
operate.
But
again
I
I
don't
want
to
be
remiss.
I
know
many
of
the
advocates
I've
got
to
know
through
the
years
as
well.
We
go
back
to
that
2014-2015
winter.
L
When
the
month
of
february
of
15,
I
think
we
got
something
like
20
times
the
average
amount
of
snow
and
it
snowed
something
like
23
out
of
28
days
and
it
was
difficult,
but
but
I
think
the
men
and
women
of
the
boston,
public
works
department
have
just
always
served
with
honor
and
distinction,
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
freddie.
My
croft,
my
who
I
affectionately
refer
to
as
my
big
brother
from
district
6,
who
has
done
yeoman's
work
for
many
many
years.
So
we
are
all
grateful
of
that.
L
Looking
at
ways
that
we
can
even
improve
upon
is
obviously
a
worthwhile
and
important
conversation
to
have.
This
is
something
we've
been
talking
about
for
many
many
years
I
started
the
hydrant
program
for
rf
boston's
youth,
which
has
been
enormously
successful.
I
I
don't
know
the
exact
number,
because
we
have
many
repeat
customers,
but
there
have
been
hundreds
if
not,
if
not
more
than
a
thousand
hydrants
dug
out
over
the
last
several
years
as
well
as
working
with
some
of
our
non-partnerships.
L
You
correctly
mentioned
commissioner
mikash
councillor,
flanders,
chairman
flynn,
also
looking
at
commissioner
shane,
the
elderly
commission,
we
partnered
with
organizations
like
age
well,
west
oxford,
to
try
to
create
some
partnerships.
I
know
my
staff's
been
out
there
helping
some
of
our
older
neighbors
as
well
and
great
volunteer
organizations
like
obviously
walk
boston
but
walk
up
roslindale,
and
so
many
others
that
literally
are
out
there.
So
we
know
this
is
a
collaborative
effort
in
any
way
that
we
can
support
the
efforts
and
bolster
the
efforts.
L
We
also
know
there's
a
price
associated
with
it
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that
the
snowfall
can
be
inconsistent,
so
it's
somewhat
difficult
to
budget
for
this,
but
obviously
it's
a
worthwhile
expenditure
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
the
programs
and
the
support.
Having
said
all
this,
I
know
that
we're
going
to
hear
from
some
panels
from
syracuse
and
others.
L
So
this
is
more
of
a
statement
than
a
question,
but
suffice
it
to
say
chief
oz,
good
and
as
you
transition
in
your
new
role
next
week,
a
driving
factor
of
my
my
final
budget
on
this
body
is
going
to
make
sure
that
our
public
works
departments
have
the
resources
that
they
need.
L
We
anticipate
this
is
going
to
be
a
lean
budget,
but
we
know
going
forward
that
we
need
to
make
sure
the
resources
are
there
to
see
to
you
chief
brawl
and
the
men
and
women
who
work
in
public
works.
Thank
you
for
a
job.
Well
done.
Thank
you
for
the
advocates
for
your
tireless
work
and
thank
you
for
my
colleagues
for
your
leadership.
That's
all.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman
o'malley,
and
thank
you
for
your
incredible
leadership
on
this
important
issue
in
getting
young
people
involved
in
that
shoveling
out
the
hydrant
program
working
with
the
fight
department.
That's
what
this
city
is
all
about
is
working
together.
Boston
works
best
when
we
work
together.
So
thank
you.
Councilor
o'malley,
counselor
baker.
B
H
I'll
start,
then
mike
can
just
recommend
this
two
small
notes.
Obviously
we
see
a
significant
differential,
almost
every
snowstorm
and
then
the
amount
of
snowfall
along
the
coast
versus
in
sort
of
in
austin,
brighton,
west,
roxbury,
et
cetera.
You
know
normally
sort
of
you
know
it
could
be
as
much
as
two
three
inches
four
inches
in
some
of
the
more
significant
snowfalls
where
the
ocean
is
playing
essentially
a
steadying
effect
on
the
on
the
sort
of
air
temperatures
sort
of
close
to
the
shore.
H
Obviously
we
have
seen
in
january
and
in
march
of
2018
2019
2018
sort
of
significant
inland
flooding
through
because
of
storm
city
with
storm
surge,
and
obviously
that
impacted
our
snow
operations
during
the
course
of
those
two
major
nor'easters.
H
J
No,
I
think
that
I
think
that
that
king
tide
married
up
with
that
snow
event
and
it
it
certainly
did
hamper
operations
as
far
as
our
frontage
road
facility
sitting.
On
top
of
that
same
four
point
channel,
we
had
some
flooding
underneath
us
that
came
up
that.
J
Luckily
we
have
two
salt
piles
here,
so
we
had
to
we
could
we
could
use
the
second
one
as
far
as
the
roadway
and
sidewalks
that
king
tide
came
up
to
what
atlantic
commercial
towards
towards
milk,
so
that
you
know
as
far
as
the
snow
and
ice
was
concerned,
it
made
it
go
away.
You
know
we
found
it
to
be.
J
You
know
that
that
tide
assumed
all
the
snow
and
all
the
ice,
but
it
definitely
hampered
that
that
corner
of
our
operation,
we
needed
you
to
divert
trucks
in
the
fort
point,
we've
yet
to
see
it
on
that
side
of
the
bridge.
But
I
don't
I
I
say
yet
because
of
you
know
what's
happening
with
that.
J
King
tide,
near
the
custom
house
has
to
you
know
I
assume,
was
going
to
play
a
role
as
you
get
over
to
those
newer
streets
near
the
courthouse
and
the
like,
but
as
of
right
now
that
was
that
was
the
one
that
had
the
largest
effect
on
us
by
way
of
a
climate
change
or
flooding.
B
Thank
thank
you,
superintendent
and
thank
you
chief.
That
is
that
is
it
for
the
administration.
Piano
you're
certainly
welcome
to
stay
here,
but
we'll
go
on
to
the
community
activists
at
this
time.
B
B
B
Lacuzia,
christina
lacuzia,
director
of
transit,
outreach,
livable
street
science
in
corey,
driscoll,
dunham,
who's,
the
chief
operating
officer
for
the
city
of
syracuse,
new
york,
home
of
the
orange
men.
B
It's
one
of
my
favorite
basketball
teams
and
football
teams.
I
used
to
I
used
to
my
favorite
football
player,
jim
brown,
who
was
a
running
back
for
syracuse
university,
but
out
of
respect
for
our
our
guest
to
our
city,
we
would
like
to
ask
corey
driscoll
dunham.
If
she
would
like
to
provide
her
opening
opening
statement.
M
Thank
you
counselor,
and
thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
to
take
part
here.
I'm
not
saying
I
don't
hear
it
a
lot,
but
it's
nice
to
hear
how
complimentary
the
counselors
are
towards
the
city
staff
members.
That's
no
no
slide
on
our
city
council,
but
it's
just
nice
to
hear
so.
I'm
corey
driscoll
dynamite,
I'm
the
chief
operating
officer
for
the
city
of
syracuse.
I
promise
not
to
be
more
than
a
few
minutes,
but
I
do
have
slides
if
that's
okay,
to
share
okay.
M
So
just
you
know
for
those
of
you
that
that
aren't
familiar
with
syracuse.
You
know
we
are
often
named
one
of
the
snowiest
cities
in
the
united
states.
Our
average
snowfall
is
about
124
inches
and
when
our
mayor
walsh,
mayor
ben
walsh,
came
into
office
pretty
much
the
first
thing
he
said
to
me
on
my
first
day
was
you
know
you
got
your
computer
set
up
great
figure
out
sidewalks,
and
so
that's
what
we
have
been
working.
M
So
let
me
see
if
I
can
do
this,
can
everybody
see
that,
yes,
we
can
okay,
so
this
is
just
a
very
quick
summary
just
to
show
how
much
in
the
city
of
syracuse
we
have
talked
about
sidewalks.
It
has
been
many
years
of
talk.
M
You
know
articles,
you
know
at
least
an
article
a
couple
a
year,
just
highlighting
the
fact
that,
despite
being
one
of
the
snowiest
cities
in
the
country,
we
had
yet
to
figure
out
how
to
effectively
remove
snow
from
our
sidewalks,
and
it
just
seemed
to
be
a
you
know.
Why
can't
you
figure
this
out
and
so
what
we
really
started?
We
narrowed
it
down
to
three
options.
One
was
enhanced
enforcement,
so
we
could
certainly
increase
the
fine.
M
We
could
change
the
ordinance,
make
it
easier
for
folks
to
follow,
make
it
easier
for
our
folks
to
enforce.
We
could
do
a
city-wide
municipal,
snow
clearance.
So
I
know
the
city
of
rochester
is
one
that
we're
often
compared
to.
They
have
a
city-wide
snow
clearance,
where
you
know
they
are
clearing
snow
from
each
one
of
their
sidewalks
after
snow
events
or
we
could
identify
priority
areas.
Where
is
it
the
most
dangerous
places
for
pedestrians
to
be
walking
in
the
street?
Where
are
those
generators
for
pedestrian
traffic
and
focusing
on
those
streets?
M
I
spent
about
three
and
a
half
years.
My
career
in
code
enforcement
and
code
enforcement
is
great
at
documenting
the
issue,
but
in
terms
of
snow
clearance
it
doesn't
code
enforcement,
at
least
for
the
city
of
syracuse,
doesn't
get
the
house
painted
it
documents
that
the
house
needs
to
be
painted.
It
might
initiate
the
fines
for
not
painting
that
house,
but
it
doesn't
actually
go
out
there
and
paint
the
house,
and
our
priority
with
this
program
was
to
clear
the
sidewalks,
not
necessarily
to
you
know
it's
also
staff
intensive
again.
M
These
are
for
syracuse's
resources
to
have
someone
take
the
call
that
the
sidewalk
hasn't
been
cleared,
send
out
the
inspector.
Do
the
inspection
issue
the
ticket
you
know,
follow
up
on
the
ticket,
follow
up
to
see
whether
or
not
somebody
has
cleared
it
engage
with
the
property
owner.
It's
just
it's
very
resource
heavy
and,
and
certainly
it
does
work
in
other
municipalities,
but
for
our
municipality.
It
just
didn't
seem
to
make
sense
because
we
wanted
to
just
get
the
sidewalks
cleared,
so
what
we
did
was
we
exist.
M
We
identified
existing
efforts,
so
where
are
we
currently
clearing
for
parks?
Where
are
we
currently
clearing
for
city
owned
properties?
Where
is
the
school
district
that
we
don't
oversee?
It's
a
separate,
separate
agency.
Where
are
they
clearing
snow?
We
have
a
downtown
committee
where
the
downtown
property
owners
pay
into
an
assessment,
and
that
agency
clears
the
sidewalks
for
downtown,
so
that
area
was
covered.
Where
are
the
existing
efforts
happening
right
now?
We
map
those.
Then
we
consulted
with
our
mpo
the
smtc
on
pedestrian
traffic
counts.
Where
are
those
principal
arterials?
M
Where
is
the
highest
demand
for
pedestrian
traffic?
We
really
sort
of
identified
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
from
zero
to
100
in
one
year.
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
clear
all
of
our
sidewalks
in
one
year,
and
so
what
we
decided
to
do
was
focus
on
those
priority
areas
and
found
out
where
those
gaps
are.
If
there
was
a
block
in
between
where
the
downtown
committee
was
clearing
and
a
park,
you
know
we
tried
to
fill
in
that
gaps,
there
would
be
a
continuous
cleared
sidewalk.
M
So
syracuse
is
about
475
miles
of
city
streets.
You
know
the
journey
of
a
thousand
miles
starts
with
a
single
step,
so
we
started
with
we
scaled
it
to
a
place
that
we
thought
both
in
terms
of
size,
but
also
in
terms
of
resources.
We
would
be
able
to
handle.
So
we
identified
20
miles
of
city
streets,
not
necessarily
where
not
necessarily
where
the
most
people
were
walking,
but
where
it
was
most
dangerous
for
people
to
be
walking
in
the
street,
so
it
took
into
account
vehicular,
traffic
and
other.
M
You
know
the
topography
of
the
street,
the
the
character
of
the
street,
so
that
we
were
targeting.
You
know
where
it
was
most
dangerous
for
people
to
be
walking
in
the
street.
So
that's
what
we
did
the
first
winter,
the
second
winter.
We
doubled
it
to
38
miles.
So
that's
you
know:
that's
20
miles
of
city
streets,
that's
generally
40
miles
of
sidewalk,
so
38
miles
of
city
streets.
We
were
clearing
about
76
miles
of
sidewalks.
M
Unfortunately,
for
this
past
winter
we
had
to
suspend
the
program
because
we
because
of
the
coveted
19
financial
impact,
and
so
it
was
probably
the
most
difficult
decision
that
we
needed
to
make,
but
we
ended
up
having
to
suspend
the
program
on
this
past
winter,
but
what
we
are
doing
going
forward
actually
within
the
next
week
or
two
we
will
be
presenting
to
our
common
council,
a
municipal
sidewalk
program
where,
whereby
the
city
will
take
over
responsibility
for
repairing
sidewalks
and
there
will
be
a
fee
to
property
owners
for
that
service
and
in
that
fee
is
included.
M
A
portion.
That's
set
aside
for
snow
removal,
so
that
we
hope
that
by
creating
a
dedicated
fund
funding
source
for
this
program,
it's
no
longer
vulnerable
to
budget
cuts
in
the
future,
and
this
is
just
you
know.
It's
a
supplemental
program.
The
property
owners
are
still
primarily
responsible
for
clearing
snow
and
ice
from
their
sidewalks.
So
this
is
a
supplemental
program.
It
doesn't
absolve
everybody
from
from
clearing
their
sidewalks
in
terms
of
the
liability.
M
You
know
we
initially,
we
we
issued
a
rfp
to
in
our
first
year
to
get
out
there
to
contractors
to
say
hey
we'd
like
to
engage
with
you
on
this
program.
We
decided
that,
particularly
as
a
pilot
program,
we
were
going
to
contract
out
the
service.
It
just
really
made
more
sense
for
us
rather
than
hiring
folks
full-time.
We
didn't
have
the
existing
staff
to
dedicate
to
it,
so
we
contracted
with
an
outside
vendor
and
we
received
zero
bids
and
sort
of
panicked.
M
Initially,
it's
a
new
program
that
we
were
doing
and
people
were
nervous
about
taking
part
in
it.
So
you
know
we
publicized
that
we
didn't
get
any
bids.
We
were
approached
by
a
contractor
who
said
I'm
willing
to
hold
hands
with
you
and
jump
off
this
bridge
and
and
let's
you
know,
let's
see
how
this
program
works.
You
know
our
council
understandably
had
concerns
about
liability.
M
The
contractor
was
required
to
obtain
insurance.
The
city
is
additionally
insured
by
their
policy,
so
that
provides
you
know
some
protection.
The
trigger
is
at
three
inches
of
accumulation.
It
takes
us
about
six
hours
to
clear
those
routes.
We
prioritize
seven
in
the
morning.
You
know
five
or
six
o'clock
at
night
to
try
and
make
sure
that
we're
we're
spreading
it
out.
The
pink
on
this
map
are
the
initial
roots
of
the
first
year.
The
blue
are
the
expanded
roots.
M
The
orange
you
will
notice
we
partnered
with
syracuse
university,
who
has
their
own
snow,
clearing
efforts
on
their
campus,
and
so
they
agreed
to
clear
additional
routes
to
kind
of
make
some
connections
with
our
map.
So
that
was
certainly
very
helpful
and
they
did
that.
You
know
just
they
just
agreed
to
do
it.
We
didn't
have
to.
They
were
already.
They
already
had
the
equipment
we
didn't
have
to
compensate
them
for
that
it
was
just
a
great
partnership.
M
M
Our
hope
is
to
establish
a
fund
through
a
sidewalk
maintenance
fee
to
property
owners,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
expand
the
program
and-
and
that
is
really
our
plan-
that
as
we
as
the
years
go
by,
we
will
continue
to
build
on
this
network
and
prioritize
where
pedestrians
are
walking.
M
You
know
and
there's
certainly
some
debate
among
us
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
for
to
have
a
goal
of
clearing
the
entire
city
of
all
sidewalks
and
whether
or
not
that's
really
a
suitable
return
on
investment,
but
that's
kind
of
a
debate
that
we
continue
to
have
as
of
right
now.
The
goal
is
to
continue
to
build
on
that
network
prioritizing
where
pedestrians
are
walking.
M
Just
listening
to
the
conversation,
coordination
with
snow
plows
is
continuing,
it's
a
continuing
challenge.
It's
just
difficult
to
you
know
clear
those
sidewalks
know
when
the
plows
are
going
to
come
by,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
try
to
continue
to
work
on
with
coordination,
but
it's
certainly
certainly
an
issue.
M
I
think
that
is
all
I
have.
I
will
say
also
that
I'm
standing
in
for
a
large
team
on
the
city,
so
I
will
do
my
best
to
answer
questions.
You
know
we
certainly
had
our
law
department
involved,
our
transportation
planners,
our
finance
team.
So
I
will
I
will
do
my
best
to
answer
whatever
questions,
but
also
I'm
happy
to
provide
any
information
that
I
can
act.
The
fact
to
for
anything
that
I'm
not
able
to
answer
today.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
corey
outstanding
presentation.
Thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
your
great
city
at
this
time.
I
would
like
to
ask
christina
lacucia
if
I,
if
I'm
pronouncing
it
correctly,
who's
the
director
of
transit,
outreach
livable
streets
alliance.
If
she
would
like
to
provide
an
opening
statement
good
morning,
christina.
N
Hey
good
morning,
it's
cristiano
lacusa,
it's
a
very
tricky
name:
okay,
okay,
okay
and
actually
I'm
gonna
tag
team
with
brendan
kearney.
We
put
together
a
presentation
and
brennan.
If
you
would
share
that,
we
can
keep
going.
O
Yeah,
so
so,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
today,
we'll
we'll
tag
team
through
this,
like
christian,
said,
I
was
just
super
impressed
by
what
syracuse
is
doing
so
like
that.
That
is
a
great
great
model
for
for
boston.
I
really
think
so.
What
we're
going
to
do
here
is
we're
going
to
kind
of
set
the
stage
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
people
are
facing
in
boston
and
show
the
images
of
them
dealing
with
those
challenges.
O
Also,
you
know
show
kind
of
what
else
is
going
on
here
in
massachusetts
and
and
then
make
some
recommendations.
So,
as
you
all
also,
we
hear
all
the
time
about
snow
challenges.
Sidewalks
are
super
important
to
make
sure
that
people
are
able
to
get
around
safely
and
conveniently
year
round.
So
this
conversation
is
fantastic.
O
And
you
know
we
have
a
whole
slew
of
resources
at
walkboston.org.
Snow.
Definitely
encourage
you
any
any
links
that
christiana
or
I
reference
here
today
like
they
can
be
found
at
there
and
if
they're
not
there,
we
can
send
them
to
you
afterwards
as
well,
so
you
can
have
them.
O
It's
not
necessarily
that
they
know
because,
as
you
can
see
from
this
map
from
the
state,
like
the
regulations
are
all
over
the
place
here
in
massachusetts.
You
know
some
communities
require
it.
Some
communities
require
it.
Sometimes
some
communities
don't
require
it
at
all
and
that's
for
homeowners
and
then
it's
different
if
you're
a
business
owner
and
it's
different,
if
you're
a
municipality
it
you
know
there
are
it's
all
across
the
board.
O
There
were
a
couple
questions
about
communities
that
do
do
snow
clearance.
Cambridge
has
been
expanding
their
program.
Much
like
syracuse
cities
like
framingham,
they
do
limited.
Snow
clearance.
Newton
has
started
doing
limited
snow
clearance,
so
there
is.
There
are
definitely
examples.
Just
here
in
in
massachusetts
as
well,
and
you
know,
jurisdictions
came
up.
O
Dcr
has
struggled
with
snow
clearance,
but
one
thing
that
they
have
done
is:
they
have
set
priority
scales
of
they're,
committing
to
certain
areas
where
you
know
priority
one
within
you
know
still
during
a
snow
event,
they
will
be
clearing
those
and
those
will
be.
O
You
know
around
access
to
schools,
high
volume,
pedestrian
feeders,
like
transit
and
then
priority
two
is,
you
know
within
12
hours
after
a
snowstorm
and
then
priority
three
is
we
know
that
we
need
to
get
to
this,
but
it
it's
going
to
be
a
while,
so
it
that
was
done
in
collaboration
with
a
number
of
advocates,
after
some
of
the
big
snowstorms
before
that
snowstorm
of
2014
2015.,
because
I
I
think
it
was
the
the
year
before
there
were
some
challenging
areas
on
dcr
properties
and
and
they
they
brought
people
to
the
table,
and
they
said
you
know
tell
us,
you
know
we
have
a
budget
that
we
can't
do
everything
we
understand
that
like.
O
Where
can
we?
Where
can
we
work
to
to
make
things
better,
christina,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
for
a
bunch
of
these
next
slides.
If
you
want
to
share
some
of
the
information
and.
N
Also,
just
to
jump
on
the
point
about
the
the
dcr
example.
I
think
it
was
great
that
dcr
worked
with
advocates,
but
I
think
in
the
boston
context,
while
advocates
definitely
should
be
involved,
and
we
would
definitely
sign
us
up
as
council
member
mentioned,
including
community
members
and
making
sure
that
we
are
hearing
from
our
residents
of
where
do
they
need
to
go
first.
Where
are
those
key
locations
to
help
determine
that
prioritization?
N
We
would
strongly
encourage
that
to
be
the
process
there
and
you
can
go
onto
the
next
slide
great.
So
this
is
we're.
Gonna
go
through
a
number
of
photos
at
this
point.
N
This
is
an
example
of
a
curb
cut
that
was
almost
cleared
in
the
south
end
and,
as
we
know,
the
point
of
a
curb
cuts
is
to
allow
folks,
like
this
woman
here
to
actually
get
where
they
need
to
go,
and
so
not
just
so
doing
a
the
full
job
of
actually
clearing
the
the
spots
that
are
needed
and
making
sure
that
whoever
is
doing
that
clearing
like
understands
why
certain
parts
of
the
infrastructure
need
to
be
cleared
fully.
N
N
Moving
on
to
this
example,
which
is
a
photo
from
blue
collab
in
boston
in
2019,
this
is
after
a
snowstorm,
you
don't
see
snow
around,
but
this
is
a
reminder
that
if
snow
isn't
cleared
completely,
then
the
remnants
after
the
last
storms
can
last
for
weeks
and
continue
to
lead
to
mobility
limitations.
N
So
in
this
example,
this
woman
was
actually
she's
going
backwards
down
over
this
curve
to
get
across
the
street
which,
for
me
taking
this
photo,
did
not
look
very
comfortable
and
was
not
how
you
would
want
to
move
around,
but
also
emphasizing
both
the
timing,
but
also
the
full
clearance
of
snow
is
really
important
to
make
it
actually
accessible.
N
This
next
picture
is
not
from
boston,
but
it's
from
our
neighbor
porter
square
in
cambridge,
and
what
we're
trying
to
show
in
this
photo
not
quite
shown
is
the
quarter
square
t-stop,
and
so,
when
you
have
these
blocked,
curb
ramps
and
high
snow
blind
snow
banks
that
are
blocking
access
to
the
crosswalk
to
get
to
the
transit.
N
Stop,
we
aren't
allowing
people
to
get
around
in
all
the
ways
that
they
need
to
be.
N
And
then
going
on
to
the
next
photo
here,
this
is
pearl
street
in
malden,
and
similarly,
you
can
see
that
there
was,
if
you
look
straight
in
this
photo,
there's
continued
snow
that
blocks
the
the
sidewalk
there
and
so
these
transition
points.
I
know
if
cory
had
mentioned
this
in
her
example
that
if
you
just
have
a
short
stretch,
that's
missed
from
being
cleared,
then
the
whole
section
is
not
really
accessible.
N
So
in
this
case
you're
now
having
to
go
off
a
curve,
there's
no
curb
ramp
because
it's
mid-block
and
you're
having
to
walk
into
the
street
instead
of
continuing
on
the
sidewalk.
N
This
is
another
example
of
where
the
sidewalks
just
weren't
cleared.
The
bus
you
see
in
the
back
is
the
71,
which
is
a
key
bus
route.
So
you
have
a
high
quality
transit
connection
here,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
man
on
the
left
side
of
this
photo
is
walking
in
the
street
because
there
is
no
way
to
walk
otherwise,
and
so,
if
he
is
trying
to
get
to
that
key
bus
route-
or
maybe
he
was
just
dropped
off,
there's
not
a
really
good
connection
to
access
or
leave
that
tree
that
key
transit
route.
O
I
think
this
next
example
was
specifically
mentioned
by
in
the
comments
earlier,
but
this
is,
you
know
one
of
those
mid
islands
in
the
back
bay.
This
is
back
behind
the
peru.
You
know
it's
one
of
those,
no
man's
lands
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
heavily
traveled.
This
was
incredibly
icy.
This
was
during
a
massdot
road
safety
audit,
and
a
lot
of
the
conversation
was
whose
responsibility
is
this.
You
know
why.
Why
are
we
not
able
to
clear
these
in
very,
very
heavily
trafficked
areas?
O
Another
example,
this
is
from
worcester,
but
there
are
places
like
this
all
over
boston.
It's
that
change
of
jurisdiction
like
this
is
around
highway
on
and
off
ramps.
So
you
know
it
all
of
a
sudden.
It
changes
to
mass
jurisdiction
and
then
immediately
on
the
other
side,
it
goes
back
to
city
of
worcester
and
neighborhood
streets.
So
there
are
just
these
connections
that
are
really
really
limiting
the
safety
and
accessibility
for
for
people
walking.
O
You
know,
example
here
like
this
is
a
great
example
of
new
infrastructure
that
is
being
cleared
for
people.
Biking
like
this
is
the
watertown
greenway
right
alongside
it
is
a
sidewalk
it.
So
it's
a
pretty
wide
right
of
way
during
the
winter,
the
partner
that
they
have
clearing.
It
only
clears
the
bikeway.
So
that's
fine.
As
long
as
people
understand
that
people
are
going
to
walk
here,
as
you
say,
they
did,
they
did
a
great
job
clearing
the
bus
stops
so
like
these.
O
We
just
need
to
be
clear
about.
You
know
what
the
expectations
are
during
the
winter,
and
you
know
how
users
will
use
the
facilities.
This
is
my
favorite
and
slash
most
hated
photo.
O
This
is
you
know
a
photo
of
an
intersection
in
worcester
where
you
need
to
push
that
button
in
order
to
cross
the
street
here,
however,
you
can't
get
to
that
button.
O
I
was
barely
able
to
get
to
it
and
I'm
6'3
if,
if
you
were
using
a
wheelchair,
if
you
were
not
6'3
and
willing
to
lean
way
across
like
there's
no
way
you're
getting
across
the
street,
because
the
signals
aren't
automatic.
O
N
Great
so
a
couple
of
key
takeaways
and
then
we'll
go
into
some
of
our
recommendations.
So,
as
we
saw
from
all
the
maps
at
the
beginning,
we
really
can't
assume
that
residents
know
the
policy.
It
is
unclear
and
although
there
are
lots
of
really
great
communication
efforts
that
chief
osgoode
had
mentioned
it's
still,
especially
if
you're
new
to
town-
and
we
know
that
boston
is
a
high
turnover
city.
N
There
are
lots
and
lots
of
students
and
new
people
who
are
moving
in
every
year
and
so
it's
hard
to
keep
up
and
then.
Secondly,
an
age-friendly
community
requires
year-round
mobility
and,
as
city
of
boston
is
an
age-friendly
community.
We
do
have
a
requirement.
We
made
an
agreement
that
we're
going
to
to
do
this,
and
so
we
need
to
keep
up
our
end
of
the
bargain,
and
then
municipal
clearing
can
create
safe,
walking
corridors
to
connect
residents
to
transit
and
business
districts.
N
I
think,
as
we
saw
you
know,
lots
of
people
everyone's
a
pedestrian
at
some
point
in
their
travel,
but
some
people
really
rely
on
being
able
to
walk
and
or
roll
to
where
they
need
to
get,
whether
it's
to
transit
or
to
other
key
destinations
so
supporting
that
mobility
is
important
and
then,
lastly,
as
we
saw
for
many
of
the
photos,
curb
ramps
really
need
to
be
cleared.
N
It's
next
when
possible,
for
it's
also
extra
difficult
for
property
owners
when
snow
is
plowed
onto
the
corners
as
it
often
is,
because
it's
a
good
large
space
to
pile
snow,
but
it
makes
it
really
hard
for
individual
property
owners
to
clear
it.
It's
oftentimes
feet
of
height
and
because
it's
been
plowed,
it's
usually
a
little
bit
more
packed
together.
So
it's
even
more
challenging.
N
O
Yeah
and-
and
you
know
here
are
some
of
our
recommendations
like
it
would
be
great.
If
there's
you
know
that
publicly
available
map,
where
you
know
what
happens
in
boston
like
what
what's
our
prioritization,
what
what
do
we
hold
like
we're
committing
to
saying?
Yes,
these
are
the
areas
we're
clearing
and
here's
the
map.
That
shows
that,
because
we
we
hear
a
lot
of
the
times
from
from
people
in
neighborhoods
all
across
boston.
You
know
we
don't
know
why
this
isn't
cleared
and
we're
actually
not
sure
who's
supposed
to
clear
it.
O
So
you
know
that
would
be
great
if
it,
if
there's
something
out
there,
similar
to
that
dcr
map,
you
know
outlining
road
clearance
and
sidewalk
clearance
timelines.
It's
a
huge
frustration
for
people
when
they
see
plows
go
by
numerous
times
down
their
street
and
the
sidewalk
gets
left
untouched
for
hours
days,
etc.
O
It
would
be
great
to
see
plowing
contracts
and
rfps
to
include
pedestrian
area
clearance.
I,
when
hearing
from
corey
about
the
first
rfp
they
put
out
and
they
got
no
responses
back-
that
happened
to
massdot
too
massdot,
has
in
their
new
prioritization
plan
pedestrian
prioritization
plan.
O
The
first
year
they
put
it
out,
they
got
no
responses
back
so
it'll
be
great
to
hear
kind
of
what
what
came
of
that
glory?
O
I
would
love
to
learn
a
little
bit
more,
so
we
can
pass
that
along
to
our
partners
at
nasa,
but
you
know
in
those
rfes
like
include
instructions
on
where
to
leave
snow
piles,
because
right
now
that
that's
not
in
any
of
these
contracts,
christiana-
and
I
were
talking
this
morning-
we're
like
what
is
that
program
where
the
city
gave
small
grants
to
neighborhood
associations
and
christiana
was
like
that's
love,
your
block
so
like.
O
Why
not
love
your
block
winter
edition,
and
you
know
partner
with
our
neighborhood
associations
and
community
groups
that
are
already
out
there,
and
you
know
taking
care
of
these
these
great
areas
like
let
let's
make
it
work
in
the
winter
too,
and
and
then
we're
you
know,
we're
just
hopeful
that
there's
going
to
be,
you
know,
clarification
around
new
infrastructure.
How
would
that
be
cleared
such
as
you
know?
Floating
bus
stops
like
maybe
at
one
time,
people
that
had
a
bus
stop
along
their
sidewalk.
O
B
C
C
C
All
right,
I'm
introducing
here,
mr
tony
knight,
who,
as
I
said,
lives
on
on
the
back
of
mission
hill
tony.
Can
you
test
your
audio,
say
hello
for
us.
B
I
At
least
in
my
area,
which
is
around
mission
hill
back
over
the
hill
kind
of
area
which
is
across
from
the
va
hospital,
we
have
a
terrible
problem
because
it
doesn't
seem-
or
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
real
strategy
on
how
to
you
know,
attack
sort
of
snow
storms
when
we
have
them
and
it
creates
unsafe
situations
for
elders,
for
people
in
wheelchairs
and
for
pedestrians
in
general.
I
I
generally
because
I'm
in
a
wheelchair
and
I
have
cerebral
palsy,
I
have
a
terrible
problem
with
snow
and
ice
being
packed
on
top
of
the
on
top
of
the
curves
that
are
designated
for
you
to
use
the
crosswalks
to
go
back
and
forth
safely.
So
you
don't
get
hit
by
and
lot
of
the
times
when
the,
when
the
clouds
come
through
to
clear
the
streets
of
the
snow
and
the
ice.
I
What
happens
is
the
snow
in
the
ice
pushes
up
against
the
sidewalks
and
it
blocks
not
only
the
sidewalks,
but
it
also
blocks
the
curves
and
the
curbs
are
what
we
use
to,
as
I
say,
get
back
and
forth
using
crosswalks
and
it's
nearly
impossible
to
use
the
curbs
when
we
have
snow
storms.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
tony.
I
really
appreciate
you
sharing
that
with
all
of
us
tony
had
reached
out
to
my
office
and
what
you
know
his
experience.
This
was
very
similar
tony
to
what
we've
been
hearing
about
from
all
the
advocates
and
we're
we're
hearing
from
syracuse
about
a
program.
They've
got
to
clear
a
bunch
more
of
these
sidewalks
more
regularly
so
really
appreciate
you
testifying
today.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
tony
and
thank
you
tony.
I
know
I
know.
I
know
the
area
very
well.
I
go
go
to
the
jamaica
plain,
va
hospital
frequently.
So
it's
a
critical
area,
beautiful
neighborhood,
so
you
have.
You
have
an
outstanding
district
city
council
there.
So
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
I.
C
Have
to
agree
with
you
so
chairman
flynn,
can
I
ask
a
couple
questions.
C
So
one
question
for
syracuse
and
we
were
so
excited
cory
to
learn
about
your
program,
because
when
we
had
first
started
looking,
we
found
rochester
and
rochester
is
sort
of
they're.
Already
at
the
you
know,
900
miles
of
crosswalks
they've
got
15
runs.
I
think
they,
you
know
they
do
them
twice
a
day.
C
It
takes
them
five
hours
and
they're,
putting
a
charge
on
everybody's
property
tax
bill
to
pay
for
it,
which,
I
think
is
you
know
it's
in
the
double
digits
and
my
sense
is
it's
been
a
successful
program
on
their
end,
but
it's
a
intimidating
program
to
scale
up
to
immediately
both
because
I
think
you
know
the
question
of
how
you
pay
for
a
thing
has
to
be
kind
of
hashed
out.
C
People
have
to
see
it
as
a
benefit
and
just
the
logistics
of
kind
of,
as
we
heard
from
our
superintendent
like
kind
of
thinking
about
adding
this
whole
portfolio
on
is
a
lot.
So
we
were
kind
of
excited
to
find
out
that
that
you
that
you
were
sort
of
doing
the
intermediate
thing
of
seeing
what
it
looks
like
to
build.
That
pilot-
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
because
then
I
imagine
we
may
you
know,
try
to
follow
in
your
footsteps.
C
Like
what
I
mean,
you
told
us,
some
of
the
things
you
learned
about
sort
of
you
know
the
contractors
were
unsure
whether
they
wanted
to
get
into
this
business,
and
but
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
sort
of
what
you've
learned
along
the
way
in
the
pilot.
So
in
terms
of,
like
you
know,
did
you
do
a
community
process
to
figure
out
what
those
main
corridors
were
like?
How
did
you
get
that
feedback
it
has?
C
The
you
know
was
in
terms
of
when
we
think
about
why
people
might
not
to
do
take
this
contract
on.
Was
it
a
question
of
people
having
the
right
kind
of
equipment
like?
Was
that
a
limiting
factor
have
you
thought
at
all
about
transitioning
it
as
it
gets
bigger,
maybe
on
into
a
kind
of
city
based
city
and
like
employee
city
equipment
kind
of
type
program?
C
Because
we
talk
a
lot
on
the
council,
and
I
see
my
colleague
counselor
baker
on
about
kind
of
trying
to
trying
to
make
more
of
these
public
services
publicly
provided
and
so
yeah.
So
those
are
a
couple
just
questions
about
community
process
and
and
that
like
equipment
issue
and
the
contracting
and
then
just
any
other
lesson
learned
along
the
way.
I
think
it's
key.
M
Sure,
thank
you
counselor.
So
I
think
you
know
what
we
have
learned
through
this
program,
which
is
helping
to
inform
our
proposed
municipal
sidewalk
program
is
for
us
at
least
that
data
drives
all
so
by
working
with
a
third
party,
our
mpo,
that
made
the
routes
data-driven.
They
were
defendable
because
we
certainly
got
feedback
from
neighborhoods
to
say
well.
Why
is
this
road
on
there?
But
not
this
road
or
you
know
we
have
a
a
road
euclid
avenue.
M
That
is,
I
think,
one
of
the
most
highly
pedestrian
traveled
areas
in
the
county,
because
it
leads
right
into
syracuse
university.
Many
students
live
in
off-campus
housing
along
there
that
wasn't
on
the
initial
route
because
it
wasn't
just
driven
by
pedestrian
traffic.
It
was
also
driven
it's
safer
to
walk
in
the
road
on
euclid
than
it
is
in
a
lot
of
other
areas
of
the
city,
and
so
that's
why
you
know
it's
certainly
a
high
pedestrian
traffic
area,
but
you
know
we
really
targeted.
Look.
The
speed
limit
here
is
40
miles
an
hour.
M
So
it's
a
lot
more
dangerous
for
people
to
be
walking
in
the
street
there
than
it
is
on.
Euclid
ave,
which
has
you
know
much
calmer
traffic,
so
it
really
did
help,
and
I
think
you
know
having
it
driven
by
data
having
it
driven
by
a
third
agency.
That
is
sole
purpose.
Is
transportation
really
helped
legitimize
the
the
routes
that
were
selected
so
that
people
didn't
believe
you
know
it
happened
to
go
by
the
mayor's
house
or
whatever
it
is?
You
know
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
what
it
was.
M
It
was
solely
driven
by
where
people
are
walking
where
it's
dangerous
for
them
to
be
in
the
street.
You
know
in
terms
of
why
we
didn't
get
any
bids.
M
You
know,
I
think
it
was
just
the
first
time
we
were
doing
something
like
this
and
I
think
there
was-
and
I
don't
blame
the
contractors,
but
I
think
there
was
some
hesitancy
where
they
you
know.
We
said
well,
we've
divided
the
city
up
into
four
different
quadrants.
You
can
bid
on
one
you
can
bid
on
four.
You
can
bid
on
two
like
whatever
you
want
to
do.
M
You
know-
and
I
don't
know
what
do
you
think
should
be
the
accumulation
you
know
threshold
and
I
think
we
myself
took
more
of
a
let's
work
together
and
figure
this
out
and
the
contractors
understandably
were
like
no.
M
I
need
like
solid
guidelines
on
what
and
what
the
expectation
and
threshold
is,
and
so
when
we
didn't
get
any
bids,
it
was
certainly
a
crushing
day,
but
we
publicized
that
to
say:
hey,
we
didn't
get
any
bids
for
this,
because
we
know
that
and
it's
something
that
we're
also
working
on
our
outreach
efforts
to
contractors,
there's
certainly
room
for
improvement
there,
and
so
by
publicizing
we
didn't
get
any
bids.
M
We
got
someone
who
you
know
hadn't
been
engaged
with
the
process
before
saw
that
article
and
came
to
us
and
said
we
know
you
guys
are-
are
figuring
this
out
for
the
first
time,
we're
willing
to
work
with
you
and
hit
some
bumps
in
the
road
and
and
kind
of
figure
this
out
as
we
go,
and
so
we
were
very
fortunate
to
to
have
that
vendor
to
work
with
so
and
and
in
terms
of
transitioning
to
city
workers.
It
has
been
something
that
has
been
brought
up.
M
It
is
something
that
we
are
that
we
are
considering
and
I'm
sure
it
will
be
part
as
as
the
program
moves
forward,
particularly
if
we
are
able
to
pass
this
municipal
sidewalk
program
and
there
is
a
dedicated
fund.
I
mean,
I
think,
the
doing
that
too
soon.
You
know
this
past
year
with
our
budget
constraints
illustrates
why
it
didn't
make
sense
at
this
point
to
bring
it
in
house,
because
we
ended
up
cutting
the
program,
which
means
you
know,
would
we
have
had
to
lay
off
those
workers
who
were
dedicated
to
doing
that?
M
You
know
also,
just
I
could
see
the
argument
both
ways
to
bring
it
in
house.
You
know
right
now.
When
we
have
a
light
winter
great,
then
the
program
doesn't
cost
us
very
much
because
we're
only
paying
by
deployment
and
and
that
way
it's
a
reduced
cost.
Whereas,
obviously,
if
you
bring
on
staff,
you
have
those
staff
full-time
and
then
there's
an
argument
to
be
made
there,
but
just
in
the
initial
stages,
we
thought
it'd
be
better
to
to
work
with
an
outside
contractor.
M
You
know,
certainly
the
condition
to
the
sidewalk
is
a
concern,
and
that's
you
know
if
again,
if
we
are
able
to
implement
a
municipal
sidewalk
program
without
a
doubt,
the
first
sidewalks
we're
going
to
target.
Are
these
ones
that
we
clear
snow?
Because
you
know
it's
obviously
going
to
be
a
lot
less
expensive
and
a
lot
faster
to
clear,
fresh
pa.
You
know
freshly
poured
sidewalks
that
are
all
the
same
with
and
and
don't
have
any
of
the
heaving
or
anything
like
that.
M
So
I
mean
I
really
you
know,
and
that's
and
that's
also
data
is
going
to
drive
our
municipal
sidewalk
program
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
really
that's.
You
know
the
the
challenge
that
we've
gotten.
M
Obviously,
coordination
with
the
snow
plows,
but
also
there
are
people
out
there
who
still
think
we
should
be
finding
their
neighbors
for
not
shoveling
their
sidewalks
and
that's
a
that's,
an
understandable
sentiment
and
that's
a
difficult
conversation
to
navigate
because
it
just
we're
just
not
the
jury's
still
out
on
whether
that's
a
good
source
of
resource
and
use
of
our
time
and
whether
or
not
we
really
should
just
be
focusing
on
the
only
way
to
guarantee
the
sidewalks
get
plowed
is,
if
we
do
it
ourselves,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
conclusion
that
we've
come
to.
M
So
I
mean
there's
still
some
some
back
and
forth
there,
and
also
you
know
we're
clearing
businesses
we're
clearing,
places
that
in
the
past
might
have
contracted
to
have
this
service,
and
you
know
is
that
fair
that
you're
clearing
a
business?
It's
like
look,
the
goal
of
the
program
is
to
get
the
sidewalks
cleared.
We
don't
care
what
property
it's
in
charge.
M
C
Thank
you.
I
see
that
brendan's
got
his
hand
up
so.
O
Yeah,
it
was
just
following
up
on
that.
The
chronic
offender
piece-
so
I
talked
to
the
city
council
in
cambridge
last
month
and
they
had
put
in
a
policy
order
to
have
the
department
of
public
works,
look
at
those
chronic
offenders
and
when
they
issue
citations,
you
know,
is
it
always
the
same
person
you
know?
Is
it
always
the
same
properties
and
what
dpw
had
started
doing?
Was
you
know
they
have
that
list?
O
They
know
who
the
chronic
offenders
are,
so
they
started
doing
proactive
outreach
before
the
snow
season
for
the
next
year
and
they've
reduced
that
recidivism
rate
to
to
improve
clearance.
So
it's
you
know
it's
that
proactive
piece
instead
of
having
to
go
back
and
find
them
again
because
it
doesn't
get
it
cleared.
So
it's
definitely
a
model
to
consider
yeah.
C
That's
great
and
then
my
last
little
question
is
just
related
to
what
I
asked
the
superintendent.
Do
you
guys
use
like
in
terms
of
salties
we're
just
very
concerned
about?
You
know
salt
in
the
waterways,
like
kind
of
a
buildup
in
general,
and
so
I
I
know
my
staff's
looked
into
a
bit
the
places
that
use
beet
juice
around
the
country
and
I'm
just
curious,
as
we
think
about
like,
if,
if
you
did
have
a
municipal
operation
on
the
sidewalks
like
what
you
actually
you
know
throw
behind
you
when
you
clear.
M
It's
a
good
question
because
we
haven't
gotten
into
salting
yet,
but
I
would
imagine
that's
going
to
be
the
next
step
of
our
program
and
I
know
you
know
the
building
services,
staff
around
city,
hall
and
and
one
of
our
other
buildings
next
door
is
that
they
do
use
the
beet
salt
and
that's
what
we
use
around
city
hall.
So
you'll
notice
that
on
a
snowy
day,
the
snow
is
purple
all
around
city
hall,
but
you
know
it
tends
to
work.
So
I
I
don't.
M
I
don't
have
a
definitive
answer
yet
on
what
we
would
use
on
the
sidewalks,
because,
obviously
you
know
we
have
serious
concerns
about
the
use
of
salt
as
well
and
the
impact
on
the
waterways.
You
know
we've
had
neighbors
suggest
to
us
that
we
use
brine,
but
on
some
of
those
hillier
areas
it
just
we
have
used
in
the
past
and
haven't
really
found
it
to
be
effective,
but
we're
always
open
to
you
know
trying
something
new.
M
So
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
definitive
answer
yet
on
what
we
would
use,
but
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
use
the
beet
salt.
It's
kind
of
colorful
and
cool.
C
All
right:
well,
I
have
a
couple
more,
but
I'm
going
to
leave
it.
Mr
chairman,
I
know
where
this
other
counselor's
on
the
call,
so
thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Council
block.
I'm
going
to
hold
my
questions
for
the
very
end,
counselor
liz
braden.
D
Thank
you
mad,
mr
chair.
I
had
to
pun,
jump.
I
had
to
step
out
for
a
few
minutes,
so
just
go
ahead
with
the
next
the
next
person
to
ask
questions.
I
don't
have
any
at
this
moment.
B
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
Liz
council
of
firey.
B
B
Okay
kenzie.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
ask
corey
if
she
could
walk
us
through
when,
when
the
city
of
syracuse
plows
the
snow.
B
M
So
currently
the
only
real
place
that
we
need
to
do
that,
and
I
would
imagine
this
would
be
applicable
to
boston,
because
obviously
the
density
there
is
much
different
than
in
syracuse
is
is
downtown,
and
so
we
do
take.
We
do
in
downtown
syracuse
nights
overnights
and
it's
really
popular
with
the
residents
to
hear
all
that
beeping
to
take
the
snow
from
from
the
piles
and
put
it
into
a
dump
truck,
I'm
embarrassed
to
say
I
don't
know
where
we
bring
it.
So
I
will
find
out.
M
I
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
yeah,
I'm
not
I've,
never
asked
where
it
goes
after.
They
pick
it
up.
So
I
will
have.
B
B
M
Sure
so
illegal,
particularly
illegally
parked
cars
is
an
enormous
problem.
For
us
I
mean,
because
you
never
want
to
back
up
a
snowplow
and
oftentimes
as
a
result,
streets
get
skipped
and
residents
come
out
and
they're
like
whoa,
where
why
did
it
get
plowed?
And
so
we've
tried
to?
We
have
a
snowplow
map
on
our
website
that
tracks
where
the
plows
have
been
and
the
last
time
that
they
were
there
so
that
people
are
able
to
tell
when's
the
last
time.
M
You
know
a
plow
came
down
my
street
because
oftentimes,
if
it's
still
snowing
people
feel
like
they've,
never
seen
a
plow.
It's
like
you
did,
but
it
was
four
hours
ago
and
it's
only
two
inches
an
hour.
So,
and
so
what
we've
tried
to
incorporate
in
that
map
is
an
icon.
That
shows
you
where
we
saw
illegally
parked
cars,
which
is
why
your
street
is
likely
not
plowed
the
biggest
issue
that
we've
had.
This
is
in
our
downtown
area,
and
so
what
we've
tried
to
do?
M
You
know,
technically
speaking,
there's
no
parking
allowed
downtown
overnight,
which
historically
hasn't
been
a
problem,
but
in
the
last
I'd
say
five
to
ten
years,
the
number
of
residents
living
in
downtown
syracuse
has
really
kind
of
exploded.
So
people
are
parking
more
of
their
cars
at
night,
which
makes
it
difficult
for
us
to
clear
snow.
M
M
If
that's
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
that
snow
clearance
for
business
owners
for
residents,
because
there's
nothing
worse
than
having
to
try
and
maneuver
your
car
out
of
a
snow
bank
and
then,
when
you
get
home
at
the
end
of
the
day,
maneuver
it
back
into
a
snow
bank,
because
snow
clearance
hasn't
happened.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question
counselor.
But
you
know
through
for
many
of
the
streets
in
syracuse
the
residential
areas,
there's
odd,
even
parking.
M
B
Thank
you,
corey
that
that
information
was
very
helpful
and
and
and
I'll
ask
a
question
to
to
brendan
and
christiana.
B
B
How
are
we
communicating
with
our
young
professionals
in
our
city,
asking
them
to
be
part
of
this
solution
and
being
part
of
that
solution
includes
picking
up
a
shovel
and
giving
giving
it
one
hour
and
going
next
door
to
your
your
neighbor,
who
might
be
a
senior
or
a
person
with
disability,
but
giving
giving
back
to
the
city
giving
back
to
your
neighborhood
in
in
being
part
of
of
helping
people?
B
A
lot
of
these
young
people
make
big
money,
so
they
they
don't
need.
They
certainly
don't
need
income,
but
I
think
they
probably
want
to
be
asked
to
do
something.
Is
there?
Is
there
any
recommendations
you
have
or
have
you
heard,
of
any
cities
or
towns
that
have
reached
these
young
young
professionals
or
young
people
that
want
to
do
something
like
that?
That
just
haven't
been
asked.
N
Yeah,
I
can
start
on
this
one.
So
the
city
of
somerville
has
a
team
snow
shoveling
program,
so
it
as
the
name
would
imply
it's
for
teenagers
and
it's
to
pair
you
apply
their
via
really
simple,
easy
to
use.
Google
form
you
fill
out
the
waiver
right
in
the
form,
share
your
contact
info
and
where
you
live,
and
it
pairs
those
young
people
with
older
adults,
so
the
seniors
or
folks
with
disabilities
use
a
similar
form
and
it
pairs
them.
So
you
have
an
accountability
for
the
whole
season.
N
The
older
adult
or
whoever
they're
paired
with
will
reach
out
to
them
and
they'll
communicate
before
the
snowstorm
and
they'll
coordinate
to
support
snow
removal.
N
While
I
think
this
is
really
great,
having
a
simple
application
form
is
really
helpful,
especially
something
that
you
can
share
via
social
media
and
other
places,
and
it's
great
to
have
that
accountability
of
having
a
pair
and
it's
great
to
connect
people
of
different
age
groups.
I
think
there's
the
having
the
city
of
boston,
maybe
pay
for
some
of
those
folks
you
can
equitably,
have
it
across
the
city.
We
know
that
some
people
don't
have
the
luxury
of
volunteering
and
so
having
some
financial
incentive
attached.
N
That,
I
think,
would
be
helpful
and
then
also
focusing
not
just
on
residential
areas.
I
think
would
also
be
helpful.
This
really
helps
those
older
adults
get
out
of
their
homes,
which
is
very
important,
and
we
would
definitely
encourage
that.
But
I
would
say
the
add-on
to
this
program
would
be
to
do
clears
of
bus
stops
or
other
key
locations
in
the
neighborhood.
B
Thanks,
thank
you
cristiano.
I
know
there
are
several
groups
that
do
this.
One
of
them
is
at
the
south
boston
laboratory
center.
They
have
an
excellent
program
and
com.
My
colleague
in
east
boston
council
at
edwards
also
worked
with
a
couple
of
non-profits
that
started
a
similar
program
in
east
boston.
I
think
both
are
doing
very
well.
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
this
type
of
outreach
expanded
in
our
city.
I
know
counselor
braden
has
her
hand
raised
council
braden.
Would
you
like
to
weigh
in
with
a
few
questions.
D
D
This
is
not
a
downtown
neighborhood,
but
it's
you
know,
but
there
are
snow
emergency
routes
that
people
park
on
in
the
especially
in
the
evenings
and
there's
no
other
parking
for
them.
That's
that's
where
they
park,
but-
and
we
don't-
we
don't-
have
municipal
lots
for
them
to
move
their
cars
onto
so
that's
something
I
wanted
to
flag
up
that.
It's
an
ongoing
challenge
in
the
winter
time,
actually
having
places
where
folks
can
move
their
cars
and
park
off.
D
We
don't
have
enough
municipal
lots
to
to
accommodate
parking
so
that
we
can
keep
our
emergency
roots
open
and
yeah.
I
just
don't
know
if
there's
any
any
thoughts
or
suggestions,
every
neighborhood
brings
its
own
challenges
and
I
think
that's
something
I
just
wanted
to
put
in
the
mix
as
well
and
then,
with
regard
back
to
the
the
42-inch
sidewalks
42,
inches
shoveling
out
of
a
space,
that's
42
inches
wide
and
very
sometimes
we're
just
at
a
loss
to
know
where
to
put
the
snow.
D
Many
of
the
young
folks
who
do
shovel
out
their
cars
in
the
neighborhood.
They
just
throw
the
snow
on
the
street,
which
is
not
not
no,
you
don't
do
that
and
or
they
shovel
it,
throw
it
onto
somebody's
sidewalk
that
somebody's
just
hold
out.
So
I
think,
there's
a
certain
level
of
etiquette
that
needs
to
be
encouraged
with
regard
to
snow
removal
and
then
to
safely
to
safely
promote
possible
walkways
across
the
district.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
braden
wanted
to
ask
any
of
our
panelists
if
they
wanted
to
respond
to
any
of
council
braden's
comments
or
or
if
we
want
to
go
back
to
council
block.
I
wanted
to
open
it
up
to
our
panelists
anyway
to
see
if
you
would
like
to
weigh
in.
O
I
I
guess
you
know
we're
almost
two
hours
into
a
hearing
and
the
word
space
saver
has
not
been
mentioned.
Maybe
if
you
know
you
are
looking
for
areas
to
pilot
sidewalk,
snow
clearance,
do
it
in
neighborhoods
that
are
committing
to
not
having
space.
Savers
like
use,
use
areas
on
the
street
for
allowing
plows
to
plow
snow
and
have
that
dedicated
at
corners.
So
the
the
curb
ramps
are
clear
on
the
corners.
O
It's
it's
just
a
just
a
thing
to
throw
out
there.
B
B
C
I
I'm
mindful
of
the
time
I
I
just
wanted,
if,
if
cristiano
or
brendan,
wanted
to
add
anything
about
what
cambridge
or
framingham
are
doing
just
because
I
know
we
did
get
the
question
about
closer
to
home,
we
we
we
think.
Our
syracuse
example
is
a
is
a
sort
of
best
in
class,
but
we're
happy
to
happy
to
know
about
across
the
river
too.
So
if
they
wanted
to
say
anything
about
what
cambridge
is
up
to.
O
Yeah,
so
you
know,
cambridge
has
been
expanding
where
they
are
clearing
snow.
They
had
a
policy
order
a
couple
years
ago.
That
requires
them
to
clear
all
the
separated
bike
lanes
and
they've
bought
equipment
for
that.
But,
alongside
that
they're
thinking
about
how
they
can
expand
their
sidewalk
snow
clearance,
I
think
they're
doing
close
to
20
something
miles
of
sidewalks
at
this
point.
Framingham
is
doing
upwards
of
90
now,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
that
don't
have
sidewalks
in
framingham.
O
Those
are
mainly
on
one
side
of
the
street
they're
using
small
sidewalk
plows,
and
it
is
mainly
connecting
neighborhoods
to
schools,
so
they're
prioritizing
access
to
transit
and
schools.
Newton
has
just
started
doing
sidewalk
clearance
and
I
think
they
have
a
partnership
with
massdot,
so
they're
clearing
some
massdot
property.
I
can
follow
up
on
that
information,
walk
boston
plans
on
doing
more
research
and
investigating
into
some
of
this
across
massachusetts
to
see
you
know
best
practices
so
stay
tuned
on
that,
but
happy
happy
to
share
when
we
have
that.
C
That's
that's
great
yeah
and,
I
think
definitely
we'll
hope
with
the
with
the
chairman's
permission
to
have
a
working
session
on
this
later
in
the
year.
I
think
you
know
we
we
heard
a
lot
of
great
stuff
from
syracuse
today.
I
think
learning
more
about
those
examples
in
mass
and
and
bringing
the
rochester
example
to
bear
as
well.
It's
just
so
important
to
me.
C
I
think,
at
the
you
know,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
know
what
we
spend,
what
we
spend
city
money
on
and
what
we
see
is
sort
of
our
responsibility
to
do
as
a
city
is
a
question
of
policy
prioritization,
and
I
think
that
I
think
you
know
the
superintendent
referred
to
the
fact
we
have
we've
had
a
good
reason
to
prioritize
roadways,
vis-a-vis
public
safety
vehicles
and
access,
and
that's
going
to
continue
to
be
essential.
C
But
I
think
that
we're
more
and
more
coming
to
a
recognition
that
we
have
a
really
good
reason
and,
frankly,
an
essential
reason
to
clear
passive
travel
for
folks
who
are
getting
around
on
foot
and
on
wheels
right,
whether
those
are
stroller
or
wheelchair
or
mobility,
scooter
wheels,
and
that
and
that
that
needs
to
be
part
of
kind
of
the
basic
provision
of
city
services,
so
that
so
that
people
know
that
they're
not
going
to
be
housebound
for
days
just
as
a
kind
of
fluke
of
the
weather.
C
As
somebody
who
represents
a
district
where
I
think
the
majority
of
residents
don't
own
a
car,
you
know
I'm
very
mindful
that
that's
that's!
The
sidewalks
are
the
essential
infrastructure
that
people
are
relying
on
to
get
around.
So
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
creative
ways
that
we
can
start
moving
towards
this
more
systematically
and
really
appreciate
the
department
today
showing
up
and
again
syracuse
and
you
all
from
the
advocacy
community
and
mr
chairman,
and
definitely
hoping
to
continue
this
conversation.
So.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
bloc,
for
calling
this
important
hearing
and
proud
to
share
this
hearing
and
proud
to
share
the
city
and
neighborhood
services.
I
love
this
committee
because
that's
it's
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
city
government
and
I
really
like
to
learn
from
residents
and
and
activists
in
in
cities
and
towns
across
across
the
country,
also
in
our
in
our
own
city,
here
staff
as
well.
That
does
a
tremendous
job.
B
That's
the
great
thing
about
zoom
council
block
that
you
highlighted
is
we're
able
to
learn
about
what
other
cities
and
towns
are
doing
and
it's
informative
and
it
helps
us
become
a
better
city
as
well.
B
Having
said
that,
this
hearing
on
docket
0182
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
a
supplemental
sidewalk
clearance
program
during
snowstorms
in
boston
is
adjourned,
and
we
will
keep
it
into
into
a
working
session.
However,
before
I
do
that,
I
did
forget
to
ask
if
there's
any
public
comments,
so
I
apologize
about
that.
My
my
my
my
apologies
kerry.
Is
there
any
public
public
testimony
from
our
city
president.
A
We
have
two
folks
with
their
hands
raised,
so
we'll
start
with
parker
and
then
we'll
head
to
carol
blair
hold
on
one
moment:
okay,
hey
hi.
This
is
parker
parker
james.
I
live
in
I'm
a
40-year
resident
of
the
charles
gate
neighborhood,
which
is
to
say
the
area
between
mass
avenue
and
kenmore
square
north
of
the
turnpike,
and
I
just
want
to
say
first
of
all,
I'm
speaking
individually
here,
I'm
part
member
of
the
charles
gate
alliance,
but
speaking
as
an
individual
bostonian.
A
I
want
to
come
very
strongly
down
on
in
favor
of
city
wide
municipal,
snow
removal.
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
idea.
I
think
that
will
provide
economies
of
scale
that'll,
allow
us
to
mechanize
snow
or
snow
removal
from
the
sidewalks
in
the
city.
A
A
A
We
have
a
massdot,
we
have
the
dcr,
we
have
the
mbta,
all
of
whom
have
responsibilities
that
they
sometimes
embrace
and
sometimes
shirk
in
clearing
the
sidewalks
in
our
our
community,
we're
one
of
the
most
densely
settled
neighborhoods
in
the
entire
city
and
the
what
I
would
say,
the
fenway,
the
mascot
lma
area
is
one
of
the
biggest
employers
in
the
city
and
the
main
connector
between
charles
gate
and
the
lma
area
is
the
bunker
overpass,
the
sidewalks
along
the
bunker
overpass,
which
I
believe
are
massdot
jurisdiction
and
snowing
winters.
A
Those
do
not
necessarily
get
cleared,
so
I
think
that
would
be
so
great
if
the
city
could
just
sort
of
embrace
all
of
the
jurisdictions
and
if
it
were
possible
to
back
bill
the
other
agencies
like
massdot
and
dcr.
A
That
might
be
one
way
to
overcome
overcome
the
jurisdictional
contradictions
and
I
will
stop
there.
Thank
you
so
much
for
pushing
forward
with
this.
This
is
a
brilliant
idea.
It's
you
know.
I
wish
you
had
decided
to
do
this
40
years
ago.
Thank
you.
B
P
Good
morning,
councillor
the
chairman,
thank
you
so
much
for
putting
me
on.
I,
I
echo
parker
that
that
this
is
a
long
time
coming
and
I'm
very
very
grateful
that
you're
doing
this,
the
counselors
have
done
a
great
job
and
the
panelists
have
done
a
great
job
of
portraying
the
problem.
My
husband
is
recovering
from
a
hip
replacement,
as
you
know,
for
older
people
that
can
be
a
death
sentence
and
his
pledge
is
to
be
out
every
day.
It's
it's
not
good.
P
If,
if
we
make
people
who
are
mobility
impaired
into
shut-ins
when
it
snows,
so
that's
just
about
the
problem
on
partnering,
councilor
mejia
suggested
partnering
and
we
are
ready.
I'm
president
of
chester
square
neighbors
we're
a
very
small
neighborhood
organization
with
lots
of
seniors.
P
We,
our
neighborhood,
is
bisected
by
massachusetts
avenue
roughly
between
tremont
street
and
washington
street
this
year.
I
I
should
say
we
have
about
400
people
on
our
mailing
list
and
when
we
do
an
email,
roughly
150
people
open
it
our
first
snow.
This
year
I
sent
out
an
email
that
said
we
can
do
this.
Do
you
need
help?
Can
you
have
a
shovel
to
loan?
Do
you
have
energy
to
spare
the
response?
P
We
got
a
lunch,
an
offer
of
one
shovel,
three
shovelers
and
one
request
for
help
after
I
went
out
to
check
to
walk
the
neighborhood
after
you
know
the
first
day
and
then
the
second,
the
third
and
then
the
fifth,
and
I
believe
we
had
about
five
non-resident
owners
who
failed
to
plow
who
failed
to
shovel
on
the
first
day
and
by
the
fifth
day
it
was
down
to
three
after
I'd
done,
some
outreach,
you
know
to
the
people
that
I
could
contact
every
corner
was
backfilled.
P
P
I
wonder
if
a
little
education
would
allow
them
to
well
just
finishing
on
the
data
when
I
walked
around
most
of
the
well
every
one
of
the
the
corners
where
the
where
the
sidewalks
meet
had
been
backfilled
by
the
plow
and
occasionally
you
could
see,
or
in
every
case
all
but
one
case,
I
think
there
had
been
an
attempt
to
clear
you
know
a
single
shovel
path
out
into
the
intersection,
which
is
can
be
like
4
feet
or
12
feet,
which
is
a
lot
to
ask
for
in
a
butter
who
has
already
cleared
the
two
corner
sidewalks,
but
in
every
in
general
that
they
had
tried
to
do
that.
P
So
that's
another
problem
and
the
last
issue
was
ice
that
in
maybe
half
a
dozen
cases,
there's
a
downspout
that
empties
onto
the
sidewalk,
and
that
is
the
most
the
most
dangerous
situation
and
it
it
continues
until
the
whole
until
everything
melts
in
the
city.
There's
there's
going
to
be
continuing
a
problem
there.
P
So,
on
those
three
issues,
I
think
on
the
first,
where
the
intersections
are
a
problem,
I
think,
if
you
could
educate
the
plow
operators
to
plow
away
from
the
ramps
that
that
would
be
great
on
the
issue
of
the
and
and
like
brendan.
I
think
it
was.
I
think,
if
you
could
just
choose
a
couple
of
parking
spaces
to
use
to
put
the
snow
that
you
could
take
care
of
the
snow
at
the
intersections,
because
I
understand
where
two
streets
intersect,
you
have
a
lot
of
snow
to
clear.
P
It
makes
sense
they
would
go
to
the
corners,
but
let's
just
push
it
a
little
farther
and
get
it
away
from
the
corners
on
the
non-resident
owners.
I
think
you
need
to
educate
because
of
course
they
have
the
biggest
idea
you
need
to
inspect.
You
need
to
proactively
inspect
it's
not
reasonable.
To
expect
that
there
will
be
somebody
in
the
neighborhood
who
will
go
out
and
squeal
on
their
neighbor,
and
then
it
still
takes
more
time.
P
You
know,
because
I'm
not
going
to
do
that
until
they're,
already
delinquent
for
a
couple
of
days,
right
and
then
more
time
for
the
city
to
come
out
and
inspect
and
then
more
time
and
if
they
find
is
only
50.
I
imagine
it
costs
them
more
than
that
to
get
somebody
to
come
and
clear
it.
So
if
I
were
a
non-resident
owner,
I
doubt
that
I
would
pay
a
lot
of
attention
unless
you
got
on
me
on
the
ice.
I
think
the
only
thing
to
do
is
to
re-engineer
those
corners
of
the
downspouts.
P
I
understand
that
the
water
and
sewer
is
no
longer
requiring
that
the
the
owner
empty
on
the
sidewalk
and
something
has
to
do
something
has
to
be
done
to
retrofit
those
places
where
the
downspout
does
empty
on
the
sidewalk.
So
thank
you
again
for
doing
this.
That's
all
I
have
to
contribute
for
the
moment
and
I
really
appreciate
what
the
idea
of
a
program.
I
hope
you
can
find
some
ways
that
don't
cost
a
ton
of
money,
because
I
know
that's
hard.
Thank
you.
B
Q
Absolutely
thank
you
counselor,
and
I
apologize
for
the
picture
that
shows
up.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Very
briefly,
I'm
with
walk
up
roslindale.
We
submitted
a
letter
of
testimony
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing
that
we
hope
get
shared
with
the
committee
and
really
all
counselors.
Q
Walk
up
rossedell
for
the
last
three
years
has
tried
to
do
a
snow
clearance,
sort
of
volunteer
effort
in
our
neighborhood
clearing
bus
stops
and,
and
the
fact
that
I've
come
to
realize
is
that
the
reason
most
people
aren't
terribly
interested
in
helping
do
that
is
that
the
the
snow
is
piled
so
high
and
so
much
after
even
relatively
small
storms,
that
the
effort
required
to
shovel
it
out
by
hand
just
outweighs
the
ability
of
people
to
sort
of
fathom
how
they
would
make
a
difference.
Q
Doing
that
I'm
one
of
the
people
who
goes
and
does
that.
I
am
frustrated
and
angry
as
I'm
doing
it,
because
I
know
that
this
is
avoidable,
and
yet
I
do
it
because
I
know
that
my
neighbors
need
help,
and
so
I
think
I
think
the
the
notion
of
people
getting
together
and
working
through
community
organizations
is
a
noble
and
nice
one
and
I'm
to
keep
doing
it.
But
I
think
this
is
a
city-wide
problem,
the
city
plows
vehicle
lanes.
Q
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
matt,
for
your
comments
very
appreciated.
Having
said
that,
I
know
there's
no
one
else
with
their
hands
raised.