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Docket #0220 - Hearing to discuss safety of construction sites in the City of Boston
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A
I
will
first
let
the
um
sponsor
of
the
hearing
off
a
brief
miracle
then
hand
it
over
um
and
ask
my
colleagues
to
provide
an
opening
statement
if
they
wish,
and
then
I
go
right
into
the
panelists
after
that,
I
will
um
open
it
up
to
public
testimony
as
well.
The
invited
panelists
that
are
here
include
dion
irish,
the
commissioner
of
inspectional
services,
mr
ryle
rhodes,
from
the
new
england
region,
council
of
carpenters,
the
carpenters
union
um
and
chris
english
from
the
from
the
mayor's
office.
A
In
recent
years,
the
city
in
the
state
has
been
experiencing
unprecedented
building
boom,
with
the
large-scale
construction
sites
in
many
neighborhoods,
not
here
not
just
here
in
boston
but
across
the
state
as
well.
These
sites
have
heavy
machinery,
cranes
and
equipment,
as
well
as
our
residents,
our
workforce,
pedestrians
most
motorists
and
cyclists
were
in
close
proximity.
Proximity
to
the
work
workers
as
well.
A
Construction
workers
are
often
at
high
risk
of
suffering,
occupational
injuries
in
fatalities
and
according
to
osha,
20
of
worker
fatalities
were
in
the
construction
field.
In
2017,
we
have
unfortunately
witnessed
several
major
accidents
in
recent
years
of
injured
or
even
killed
construction
workers
throughout
the
city
and
state.
A
B
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here
today.
I'm
the
city
councilor
representing
district
8,
which
includes
mission,
hill,
fenway,
back
bay,
beacon,
hill
and
the
west
end
and,
as
such,
have
major
many
major
construction
projects
ongoing
in
the
district,
and
I'm
really
grateful
to
counselor
flynn
for
calling
this
hearing
today,
because
you
know,
I
think
we
were.
We
were
all
in
a
hearing
together
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
pedestrian
safety
and
vision,
zero
and
vision.
B
Zero,
as
folks
may
know,
as
a
catch
phrase,
about
the
importance
of
us
making
sure
that
there
are
no
pedestrian
fatalities
in
the
city,
um
a
goal
which
we
need
to
work
together
towards
in
policy
but
which
we
have
not
reached,
um
and
I
really
think
we
need
to
have
a
vision,
zero
as
well
for
construction
safety.
We
should
have
no
construction
deaths
in
the
city
of
boston
and
we
have
seen
an
unfortunate
number.
B
Both
the
workers
themselves
and,
of
course,
anybody
passing
through
the
scene
living
in
the
area,
and
so
I'm
really
grateful
to
counselor
flynn
um
for
for
calling
us
hearing
today
uh
and
our
isd
um
and
uh
construction
um
industry.
Colleagues,
for
being
here
uh
and
and
like
councillor
flynn,
I'd
be
remiss
not
to
acknowledge
that
throughout
the
pandemic,
our
construction
workers
have
been
so
much
more.
B
But
I'm
just
really
grateful
to
you
know
the
carpenters
who
are
with
us
here
today,
the
boston
building
trades
and
just
this
whole
community,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
be
making
sure
that
we're
taking
as
many
proactive
steps
as
we
possibly
can
to
keep
everybody
safe
on
our
job
sites
across
the
city.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
A
Thank
you,
council
book
um
and
you
are
exactly
correct.
Council
bought
just
last
week.
The
boston
building
trades
at
the
plumbers
union
had
a
food
drive
for
the
laid
off
workers
of
um
local
26.
Those
are
the
hotel
restaurant
workers,
but
they
provided
so
much
food
access
to
um
families
in
need.
So
I
won't
acknowledge,
acknowledge
that
outreach
effort
and
and
thank
the
um
the
workers
of
the
of
the
building
trades.
um
We
are
we're
also
joined
by
sean
lydon
who's,
the
assistant
commissioner
building
division
of
isd.
At
this
time.
C
Thank
you,
chairman
flynn,
councillor
bach,
very
happy
to
be
here.
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
speak
too
long,
I'm
going
to
yield
some
of
my
time
to
deputy
commissioner
sean
lyon,
who
is
actually
our
expert
in
this
area
and
very
proud
to
have
him
on
our
team.
But
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
you
having
this
hearing.
C
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
this
conversation
publicly
to
talk
about
construction
safety
to
to
hear
from
the
public
to
see
how
we
can
improve
and
also
to
share
what
we're
doing
to
build
confidence
that,
despite
the
the
um
the
the
amount
of
construction
activity
in
the
city
that
I
think
we're
doing
a
job,
a
good
job
of
keeping
the
city
safe.
But
we're
always
looking
to
do
better.
C
The
mayor
was
the
first
in
the
country
to
um
half
construction
to
also
make
sure
that
construction
workers
were
safe
and
the
public
was
safe
to
and
to
prevent
the
spread
of
covert
19.
So
sean
will
get
into
some
more
details
about
the
things
that
we're
doing
around
construction
safety
in
general
and
also
safety
around
um
covet
19
on
construction
sites.
So
with
that
uh
I'll
end
there
and
um
and
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
to
deputy
commissioner
sean
leiden.
C
A
You
thank
you,
commissioner.
Before
I
introduce
assistant
commissioner
lyden,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
uh
isd
team
for
working
so
professionally.
During
this
pandemic,
um
it's
been
a
difficult
year
for
everybody,
including
the
people
in
the
construction
industry,
but
under
under
your
leadership,
commissioner,
irish
and
and
sean
lydon.
A
You
know
you
put
a
lot
of
good
safety
precautions
in
place.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
working
closely
with
residents
as
well
is
important.
um
It's
important
that
you
guys
did
that
type
of
outreach.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
uh
the
isd
team.
Having
said
that
assistant,
commissioner
lyden,
would
you
like
to
give
opening
statement.
D
E
um
Basically,
I
would
you
know
I'd
like
to
address.
You
know
the
construction
safety
in
the
city
of
boston,
a
few.
You
know
a
few
pieces
of
uh
information
that
I've
come
up
with.
Obviously
we
all
know
this
is
you
know
unprecedented
time,
not
just
talking
about
covered,
but
construction
in
general
in
the
city
of
boston.
E
In
the
last,
probably,
during
this
last
administration,
we
have
seen
building
go
up.
The
trades
working
the
trickle
down
of
this
is
enormous.
Throughout
the
city
it
it
affects
everybody
to
keep
people
working,
keep
people
going,
obviously
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
safe
manner,
but
what
people
have
to
realize?
This
is
good,
for
you
know
the
the
the
investors
themselves
all
the
way
down
to
the
gentleman
on
the
connor
store,
but
we
have
at
that
point.
You
know
you
have
you
have
people
who
live
in
the
city?
E
People
live
outside
the
city,
you
know
helping
the
economy
within
the
city
by
these
people
working
you,
you
go
home,
you
don't
worry
about.
You
know
taking
you
taking
your
son
or
your
daughter
out
for
a
sweatshirt
or
an
ice
cream
cone,
and
that's
what
we
look
at
and
that's
that
that's
the
way
this
has
to
be
looked.
That
building
is
good
and,
I
have
to
say,
building
in
the
city
of
boston
is
one
of
the
safest
in
the
country.
E
I'd
like
to
just
share
with
you
a
little
bit
of
data
that
I've
done
a
little
bit
of
research
on
once
again
isd
we're
a
huge
role
in
construction
safety
in
the
city
of
boston.
We
have
to
look
at
also
construction
industry,
there's
so
many
different
entities
with
under
the
umbrella.
We
have
you
know
you
have
electrical,
you
have
mechanical,
you
have
gas,
you
have
high-rise
workers,
you
have
steel
workers,
you
have
carpenters,
you
have
laborers,
so
the
construction
industry
in
itself
is
it's
inherently.
E
It
can
be
a
dangerous
industry
with
all
these
different
trades
and
all
these
different
moving
parts,
particularly
in
some
of
the
the
types
of
buildings
that
we
have
gone
up
with.
But
here
in
isd
we
are
building
electrical
mechanical
inspectors,
we're
all
certified
by
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts.
In
regards
to
the
licensing,
certifications
and
required
continuing
educational
requirements
for
code
upgrades
changes
in
policy
shift,
this
ensures
the
city
is
safe
and
effective
code
officials
enforcing
the
requirements
of
these
various
regulations
dependent
upon
national
and
state
requirements
international.
E
Actually,
our
employees
are
required
to
undergo
osha
certification
and
work
in
conjunction
with
osha
officials,
of
national
federal
to
ensure
workplace
in
the
city.
Construction
industry
won
the
most
dangerous
in
the
world
with
fatality
rate
four
times,
the
national
average
of
any
other,
a
second
only
to
fishing
the
fishing
industry.
That
means
that's,
that's
something
to
be
considered.
E
It's
ranked
just
behind
the
fishing
in
national
statistics
into
fatalities.
With
this
said,
massachusetts
is
ranked
in
the
top
20
percent
nationally
in
regards
to
workplace
safety.
The
enforcement
of
code
and
diligence
of
the
inspectors
are
some
of
the
reasons
for
this
statistic,
even
among
one
of
the
greatest
booms
within
the
city
of
uh
within
our
city,
combined
with
this
effort
from
local
inspectors,
the
strong
presence
of
union
workers
in
this
city
and
the
education
and
awareness
that
comes
with
such
as
the
reason
why
we
are
far
above
the
national
standards.
E
In
the
safety
aspect,
with
the
unions
comes
great
training,
there's
they're
required
to
have
training
in
in
safety
measures
in
place
per
their
union,
not
only
for
federal
officials,
local
officials,
but
by
their
own
unions,
and
it's
enforced
at
that
level.
Also
through
all
these
levels,
2019
just
for
example,
3
700
new
units
were
offered
in
the
city
which
coincided
with
nearly
22
000
jobs.
In
the
construction
industry
alone,
the
city
has
collected
over
61
million
dollars
in
permitting
fees
in
2019
11.6
billion
dollars
in
construction,
currently
underway.
E
Boston,
in
addition
to
the
above,
has
collected
over
80
million
dollars
in
additional
revenue
from
new
development.
Once
again,
if
we,
let's
take
a
look
throughout
the
city,
a
lot
of
those
dollars
stay
in
the
city
and
it
goes
down
to
it.
It
helps
everybody
at
the
tragedy
with
the
trench
collapse.
The
commissioner
has
touched
upon
claiming
the
lives
of
two
workers
here
at
isd
with
our
commissioners.
We
took
the
role
of
the
additional
responsibility
of
screening,
all
the
permit
applicants
in
regards
to
their
workplace
safety
records.
E
We
reach
out
to
their
insurance
companies
for
their
insurance
ratings
and
some
of
these
ratings
going
to
be
inherently
high
because
of
the
job
roofers
they're,
going
to
start
a
higher
rating,
but
we'll
screen
that
and
we'll
look
and
they're
going
to
start
at
a
higher
rating
but
we'll
adjust.
We
have
to
work
with
roofers,
no
matter
what
the
rating
is
rating
is
a
standard,
that's
a
number,
but
a
roof
has
to
get
done.
E
If
you
have
no
issues,
you
have
no
workplace
violations,
we're
going
to
give
you
that
permit
to
roof
and
we're
going
to
monitor
that
roof
and
we're
going
to
monitor
you
on
the
roof,
along
with
osha
officials
and
the
last
year
isd.
As
the
commissioner,
as
commissioner
irish
has
stated,
we
played
a
role
both
reviewing
the
enforcement
of
coburn,
19
policy
and
procedure
in
regards
to
the
workplace,
and
I
have
to
say
that
the
major
contractors,
all
the
contractors
within
the
city
of
boston
they
stepped
up
to
the
plate.
E
They
developed
their
own
policy
for
review
by
this
department,
and
if
we
could,
I
know
it's
it's
an
impossible
milestone
to
reach,
but
if
we
could
have
traceability
to
those
on
construction
sites
and
response
in
regards
to
spread
to
covert,
I
would
venture
to
say
we
were
probably
way
below
the
national
average.
As
far
as
any
other
spreading
of
this
of
this
pandemic
goes
on.
E
Worksite
are
from
work
sites
because
they're
highly
monitored
by
their
own
and
that's
a
credit
to
all
these
individuals
doing
the
jobs
in
the
city
of
boston
right
now,
and
if
we
and
if
we
have
come
across
individuals,
we
do
have.
We
we
enforced
reinforced
the
kobe
19
policy,
we'll
stop
the
job,
we'll
levy
fines,
and
you
know
we're
going
to
cost
you
one
way
or
the
other.
E
You
know
we're
taking
very
seriously
here
and
we
and
we
uh
we
back
it
up
in
conclusion,
boston
is
ranked
one
of
the
safest
in
the
nation,
even
at
the
current
time,
being
one
of
the
best
busiest
in
the
nation
with
the
cons
con,
the
construction
that's
going
on
within
the
city,
and
obviously
you
know
once
again.
Just
to
reiterate:
we
need
construction
in
the
city
with
the
with
the
with
the
weather
that
we
have
there's
always
going
to
be
repair
alterations.
E
A
Thank
you
assistant,
commissioner
leiden.
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
before
I
introduce
the
next
uh
pianoist
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
my
colleague,
city
councilor,
mejia
has
joined
us
as
well
as
city
councilor
and
easter
sabe
george
has
joined
us
as
well.
um
Mr
ryall
rhodes
is
a
a
union
leader
with
the
north
atlantic
states,
regional
council
of
carpenters,
um
and
just
want
to
ask
mr
rhodes.
If
you
would
like
to
provide
an
opening
statement.
F
uh
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
flynn,
for
the
invitation
uh
to
this
and
thanks
everyone
else
for
being
here
today.
um
I
will
be
brief,
so
my
name
is
ryle
rhodes.
um
I
am
the
business
manager
of
carpenters,
local
327
in
the
boston
downtown
boston
market,
and
to
talk
about
what
we
do
for
as
far
as
safety,
every
member
of
our
organization
in
the
downtown
boston,
not
just
downtown
boston
but
statewide,
but
we're
talking,
say,
4,
100
individuals.
F
Every
single
individual
has
to
go
through
our
osha
training
program,
which
is
a
two-step
process.
First,
they
have
to
have
a
10,
a
10
hour,
osha
certificate,
and
then
anyone
in
the
supervisor
position
in
our
journeyman
level.
There
have
to
take
the
32-hour
course:
that's
mandatory
to
work
on
any
job
site
in
the
city
of
boston,
which
is
unlike
anywhere
else
in
the
country
we
take
safety
uh
very,
very
uh
seriously,
and
especially
in
today's
market.
F
uh
What's
going
on
out
there
with
the
cove
at
19.,
um
like
mr
lyden
said
earlier,
we
actually
we're
trying
to
take
that
head-on
on
every
single
job
site
in
the
city
of
boston,
where
we
don't
have
people
that
might
come
in
contact
with
someone,
maybe
on
a
job
site
in
the
city
of
boston
and
take
that
home
with
them.
That's
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
because
you
know
a
lot
of
our
workers
use
the
mbca.
F
It's
a
transient
system,
boston,
you
know
you
can
you
can
get
around
that
way
and
that's
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
uh
you
know,
spread
the
virus
anywhere,
but
everyone's
done
a
great
job.
I'm
telling
you,
the
city
of
boston's,
really
stepped
up
um
in
this
market
in
construction
compared
to
anyone
else
in
the
country.
um
We
really
do
have
a
handle
on
it,
and
um
you
know.
F
Job
site:
it's
you
know
you
have
to
check
in
temperature.
Screening
questionnaire,
you
know,
that's
masks
the
whole
nine
yards.
um
Is
it
easy?
No,
do
people
like
doing
it?
No,
but
it's
uh
it's
a
way
of
life
and
that's
the
way
your
life
it's
going
to
be
in
the
city
of
boston,
going
forward
and
um
happy
to
ask
any
questions.
Anything
I
could
do
to
help.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
rhodes.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
thank
you
to
the
leadership
of
the
carpenters
and
so
many
building
trades
across
our
state,
um
especially
on
safety
in
the
workplace.
It's
a
critical
issue-
and
I
know
organized
labor-
is
doing
an
exceptional
job
um
on
on
that
on
that
issue
among
many
issues.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn,
and
thank
you
to
the
commissioner
and
the
assistant
commissioner,
um
and
also
to
you,
mr
rhodes.
um
I
guess
just
one
quick
question
I
had
was
just
um
if
you
could
go
in
in
a
little
more
detail
um
assistant,
commissioner,
leiden
um
about
the
affidavit
system
and
sort
of
exactly
what
came
in
after.
um
I
very
much
remember
the
tragedy
with
the
trench
a
few
years
back
just
so,
I
can
understand
sort
of
how
our
procedures
changed
after
that.
E
What
we
require
is
it's,
it's
a
rating
given
by
an
insurance
company
and
we
have
a
cutoff.
We
have
a
standard
of
1.0,
that's
our
cutoff
and
the
way
it's
rated
by
the
insurance
companies
that
the
higher
the
risk
job
are
the
infractions
that
the
company
itself
has.
They,
they
they're
automatically
assigned
a
higher
risk
to
ensure
we
ask
for
that.
We
take
it
in
once
again,
you
may
have
individuals
or
different
entities
with
a
higher
than
1.0
risk,
which
is
beyond
our
cutoff.
Now
that
is
further
scrutinized.
E
We
can
go
in
and
we
can
look
at
their
at
their
history
and
if
they
do
have
workplace
violations
with
safety
incidents,
we
can
look
and
if
they
do
not
say
once
again,
a
roofer
for
example,
or
an
iron
worker,
they're,
very
high,
they're
high
risk
and
they
are
going
to
come
in
automatically
to
insurance
companies
at
a
higher
rating.
So
we
have
the
ability
and
the
authority
to
scrutinize
that
and
issue
the
permit
or
deny
the
permit,
based
on
that
particular
rating.
B
Great,
thank
you.
That's
that's
helpful
context.
I
wondered
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit.
I
know
that
the
the
immediate
tragedy
that
precipitated
councilor
flynn's
um
hearing
order
today
was
uh
the
person
that
we
lost
in
the
setup
for
the
first
night
celebrations
last
year,
um
and-
uh
and
I
don't
you
know,
I'm
just
I'm
curious
sort
of
what
happened
there
and
what
we
learned
from
it
and
whether
there
was
any
were
any
kind
of
changes
made
after
the
fact.
So
it's
really
a
a
terrible
tragedy.
E
It
was,
you
know,
a
terrible
event,
terrible
tragedy,
particularly
that
time
to
any
time,
but
in
setting
up
a
first
night
and
the
the
glee
that
supposedly
surrounds
what
happened
was
it
was
operator
error.
It
was,
it
was
a
top
heavy
load
coming
off
a
forklift
and
it
tilted,
and
uh
it
should
have
never
happened.
It
should
have
been,
should
have
been
monitored,
monitored
more
closely
by
individuals
and
the
unloading
of
the
load
was
too
big
for
the
for
the
apparatus
that
was
handling
it
and
that's
the
unfortunate
bottom
line.
B
E
B
um
And-
and
I
know,
we've
had
a
few
in
the
last
few
years-
I've
I've
been
aware
of
a
bunch
of
um
fires,
we've
had
of
nearly
completed
buildings,
um
and
I
don't
think
any
of
those.
um
I
think
I
don't
think
any
of
those
has
taken.
Any
workers
lives
they've,
mostly
gotten
started,
while
people
are
off
the
job.
B
But
I
just
wonder
if
um
that's
my
impression
as
a
civilian
is
that
I
feel
like
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
that
in
the
last
few
years,
but
I
don't
know
whether
that's
sort
of
true
from
a
trend
perspective
and
whether
there's
anything
isd's
doing
about
that
and
just
thinking
about
the
fire
aspects
of
worker
safety.
Here
I
can.
E
Address
that
a
little
bit,
um
let's
we'll
go
back
to
ashmont
yeah
with
the
um
obviously
just
almost
completed.
Once
again,
it
was
installation
it
completed
a
generator
pre-test
that
morning
and
the
generator
the
exhaust
on
it.
The
clearance
was
not
the
correct
clearance
on
the
surroundable
surrounding
combustibles
on
that
particular
unit,
and
that
was
uh
that
was
strictly
in
I
mean
once
again,
the
installation
was
not
correct
and
obviously
huge
loss.
Thankfully,
no
lives
lost
what
I
would
like
to
focus
on.
If
we
look
back
throughout
through
building
code,
we've
actually
greatly
reduced.
E
E
You
know,
and
that's
credit
to
the
fire
department,
obviously
with
a
quick
response,
but
also
through
building
code
you're
going
to
have
to
encapsulate
that
particular
unit
of
that
particular
room.
Fire
is
going
to
look
for
oxygen.
It
will
find
no
place
to
find
that
additional
oxygen
to
creep
up
behind
what
they
call
balloon
framing
in
these
particular
instances,
and
also
with
the
fire
alarms
you're
going
to
have
the
installation
of
a
fire
alarm
in
a
three
family
house,
a
new
construction,
three
family
house.
E
The
response
is
there
from
the
fire
department
immediately
and
once
again,
your
sprinkler
system
that's
going
to
buy
time
and,
let's
save
lives.
That's
huge:
that's
huge
in
massachusetts,
state
building,
code,
city,
ordinances
right
now.
It's
huge
and
we're
very,
very
focused
on
that
and
the
incidence
of
fire
and
fatalities
and
injuries
greatly
reduced
on
any
kind
of
rehabbed
project
in
the
city.
B
Well,
that's
that's
great
to
hear
um
and
my
last
quick
question
um
before
I
go
back
to
the
chairman
is
just
um
for
you
or
for
mr
rhodes.
I
know
you
know
throughout
the
city,
and
I
should
say
this
is
not
at
all
um
just
construction
sites.
It's
everywhere.
We
definitely
hear
as
counselors
when
we
don't
have
perfect
compliance
with
mask
wearing
um
you
know
and
and
folks
are
home
and
sometimes
they
see
job
sites,
and
they
say
you
know
it's
a
little.
B
It's
getting
a
little
um
loose
um
and-
and
I
think
you
know
we
all
know
it's
a
hard
thing
to
get
used
to-
and
it's
a
hard
thing
to
use
to
when
you're
out
doing
work.
um
But
I
just
wonder
if
either
of
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
um
measures
to
really
encourage
full
compliance
on
that
front,
because
it
is
something
that
I
would
say
I
get
fairly
regular
calls
about
right
now.
F
Yeah
I'll
speak
about
one
job
in
particular.
I
was
there
two
days
ago.
That's
the
west
end
garage
uh
the
fishman
project
over
near
north
station.
um
There
was
um
a
lot
of
complaints
because
it's
a
very
tight
neighborhood
over
there
in
the
west
end,
there's
a
few
places,
there's
one
restaurant
and
in
particular
apaches.
I
believe
it's
right
there
and
when
you
put
200
construction
workers
in
uh
dump
them
into
one
place,
they're
going
to
want
to
eat
somewhere
and
and
a
lot
of
people
were
a
lot
of
workers.
B
F
But
a
lot
of
these
companies
that
are
operating
in
the
city
are,
you
know
they
really
take
it
seriously
and
if
you're
not
wearing
a
mask,
you
know,
there's
no
tolerance,
you're
out
and
um
just
another
just
to
talk
about
one
other
thing
about
the
um
the
fires
and
the
can
some
of
the
construction
sites
um
in
the
city
of
boston.
If
you're
on
a
major
construction
site,
you
have
to
have
a
hardware
permit
now
the
worker
does
each
individual
worker.
F
So
if
I'm
operating
a
tool
that
might
send
off
some
kind
of
spark
or
help
with
it,
it
could
combust
with
any
kind
of
material.
We
have
to
know
the
safety
precautions
around
about
that
and
that's
uh
another
thing.
A
lot
of
places
in
the
country
don't
have,
except
for
the
city
of
boston,
and
that
goes
for
every
individual
from
a
first
year,
apprentice
to
some
with
25
years
in
the
business.
B
F
F
Know
the
lines
in
the
sand
for
us-
I
don't
know,
um
I
consider
believe
it
or
not.
They
consider
like
um
certain
jobs
on
the
other
side
of
the
river
boston.
I
say:
that's,
not
boston.
That's
cambridge!
I
consider
the
water
their
line,
but
they
do
they've
stolen
a
few,
a
little
area
from
us
um
over
the
years,
but
that's
another
project
that
um
I
can
pass
the
word
along
though
today
definitely
and
say
you
know
you
might
have
to
have
someone
go
over
and
talk
to
someone.
I
do
it
all
the
time
I
do.
F
F
C
G
Yes,
uh
thank
you,
chairman
flynn,
um
and
the
administration
for
being
here.
I
only
have
a
few
questions
and
you
should
be
um
ready
to
go.
um
My
questions
are
um
construction
workers
make
up
the
largest
percent
of
uninsured
workers
and
I'm
just
curious.
What
are
we
doing
to
ensure
that
if
they
get
sick
due
to
covet
or
other
reasons
that
they're
not
missing
out
on
critical
pay.
F
As
far
as
us,
as
far
as
the
union
goes,
um
that's
one
of
the
biggest
fights
we
have
today
in
the
city
of
boston
is
undocumented
workers,
and
some
people
do
not
like
to
recognize
the
fact
that
that
goes
on,
but
it
goes
on
every
day
in
the
city
of
boston
and
um
it's
rampant
in
the
residential
area,
not
as
much
as
in
the
commercial
area,
but
it's
rampant
in
the
residential
commercial
uh
residential
construction
area.
It's
rampant.
F
um
You
know
years
ago,
when
I
first
got
in
like
years
ago,
say
30
years
ago
we
used
to
have
to
watch,
we
used
to
say
we
just
have
to
shut
the
door
from
the
north,
because
we
thought
everyone
was
coming
down
from
new
hampshire
to
work
in
the
city
of
boston.
Well,
that's
not
true
anymore.
It's!
It's
totally!
Flipped
in
new
bedford
fall
river,
rhode,
island,
um
it's
like
the
95
corridor
and
um
it's
one
thing.
That's
one
of
the
biggest
fights
we
have
to
this
day
in
the
city
of
boston.
G
F
Oh
yeah,
we
have
you,
know
the
carpenters.
We
have
probably
nine
full-time
bilingual
uh
people
that
work
for
us
in
the
community,
um
so
we
do
say
say
if
they
go
to
a
job
site
and
we
get
word
that
um
a
company
is
not
paying
an
individual
or
what
happens
a
lot
of
times
not
to
to
make
this
a
big
product
thing
is,
um
they
have
say,
say
ed
flynn.
F
Drywall
gets
the
job
at
a
housing
complex
in
dorchester,
then
ed
flynn
gets
the
job
and
he's
the
subcontractor
he'll
subcontract
the
workout
to
don
irish
drywall
and
sean
lydon
drywall
and
ryle
rhodes
drywall.
So
there's
all
kinds
of
steps
uh
of
undocumented
workers
that
are
on
that
site.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
if
we
hear
that
someone's
not
getting
paid
we'll
go
to
that
job
site
and
we'll
put
you
know,
we'll
bring
it
to
the
light
of
everyone
in
the
neighborhood.
F
F
G
Yeah,
well
I
appreciate
that
answer.
I
didn't
that
was
additional
information
that
I
did
not
ask
about,
but
I'm
glad
that
you
answered
it
and
I
really
do
appreciate
you
um
helping
our
audience,
who
are
tuning
in
understand
the
efforts
that
you
are
are
making
um
to
support
um
workers
workers
rights.
You
know,
I
think
it's
really
important
I'll
just
say
really
quick.
G
C
Irish
thanks
counselor
and
I
will
be
asking
um
sean
just
to
join
in
because
he
may
have
additional
details,
but
um
to
my
knowledge,
did
there
aren't
any
like
recurring
bad
actors?
I
would
say
um
when
I
first
um
took
the
helm
in
june
of
2019.
We
had
that
incident
on
atlantic
ave.
um
It
was
a
roofing
company.
E
I
can
honestly
say
that
it
doesn't
reach
the
stage
of
chronic
offenders
in
the
city
of
boston,
because
our
staff,
here
you
know
who's,
you
know
who
you
know
who
the
unsafe
you
know
people
are
and
the
the
the
people
not
following
protocol
and
not
we
find
unpermitted
jobs.
We
shut
it
down.
As
the
commissioner
said
spoken,
you
know
the
very
unfortunate
incident
on
atlantic
avenue.
We
acted
immediately
in
conjunction
with
osho.
The
job
was
shut
down,
we
did
you
know
pursue.
E
I
mean
the
gentleman
that
it
happened
and
it
was
very
unfortunate
accident.
Once
again,
there
was
error.
All
protocol
was
in
place
and
there's
actually
a
safety
railing
required
that
came
off
the
roof
and
hit
that
young
lady,
very
sad,
and
uh
but
we
did
once
again
in
conjunction
with
the
state
we
pursued.
You
know
the
company
responsible
and
we
did
act
accordingly,
but
I
can
honestly
say
that
it.
It
rarely
gets
to
the
point
here
permitting
wise.
It's
not
going
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
have
repeat
offenders
and
dangerous
individuals
operating.
E
C
G
That's
great
that's
right
and
my
last
question.
I
know
we
were
talking
about
big
projects
here,
councillor
flynn,
but-
and
maybe
this
may
not
be
the
right
place
for
this
question,
but
I'm
curious
for
the
smaller
mom-and-pop
shops.
Like
you
know,
landlords,
just
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
don't
even
know
about
the
the
process
of
having
to
go
through
permitting
and
hiring
licensing
individuals.
G
We
take
there's
a
lot
of
privilege
in
this
space
that
we
think
that
everybody
knows
things,
but
I
know
a
lot
of
people
y'all
out
there
that
are
doing
things
that
they
don't
even
know
that
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
because
they
didn't
know
about
it,
and
so
I'm
not
snitching,
but
I'm
just
letting.
You
know
that
y'all
need
to
stop
putting
some
information
out
here,
because
these
people
they're
out
here
doing
things
that
they're
not
supposed
to
be
doing,
because
they
didn't
know
that
they
were
doing.
C
No,
that's
excellent
point
counselor.
um
That
is
something
that's
needed.
That's
something
that
we're
gonna
do
that.
I
mentioned
um
a
few
months
ago
seems
like
last
year
at
our
budget
hearing,
we
talked
about
some
of
the
initiatives
that
we
had
planned
around
public
education,
around
construction
safety
and
building
safety.
G
A
A
I
worked
closely
with
um
community
labor
united
with
darlene
lombos
and
with
the
chinese
progressive
association,
but
I'm
still
seeing,
unfortunately
seeing
that
in
many
restaurants,
but
we
we
as
a
city,
have
zero
tolerance
for
um
any
worker
that
doesn't
get
paid,
and
I'm
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
the
comments
from
mr
rhodes
as
well.
He
feels
the
same
way.
Anyone
that
works
a
day
works
a
full
day
should
get
a
full
day's
pay
um
and
that's
what
the
union
is
all
about
is
fighting
for
fighting
for
workers.
So
thank
you.
H
H
But
we
know
that,
since
the
pandemic
and
really
since
march
and
april,
a
lot
of
the
safety
conversations
have
changed.
So
I
just
want
to
appreciate
the
work
that
isd
has
done,
and
uh
commissioner
irish
and
uh
his
team
and
sean's
group,
as
well
as
all
of
our
construction
operators
and
unions
across
the
city,
in
the
very
proactive
effort
they've
made
in
making
sure
that
we're
protecting
workers
and
visitors
to
job
sites
across
the
city
uh
during
the
the
pandemic
and
thinking
about
uh
controlling
this
uh
very
infectious
disease.
H
I
am
curious,
and
some
of
this
has
been
covered
in
uh
the
questions
both
by
uh
counselor
bach
and
counselor
mejia
around
the
changes
in
the
way
that
we
approach
our
work
um
in
creating
safe
environments,
uh
because
of
covid
and
and
obviously
we
don't
want
to
lose
our
focus
on
maintaining
sort
of
the
physical
safety
aspects
of
our
job
sites.
But
recognizing
that
we
do
need
to
respond
now
to
covid
who
at
the
um
so
I'm
curious
about
just
some
of
the
general
shifts
in
job
site
management.
F
I
can
just
if
I
could.
I
could
just
I'm
not
an
expert
on
all
of
it,
but
I
can
tell
you
this:
osha
is
um
overworked
and
underfunded.
That's
for
sure
um
I
don't
think
they
have
enough
um
field
reps.
um
You
know
they're
kind
of
like
the
last
person
you
want
to
call
is
someone
from
osha.
um
Like
I
don't
I
I
I
never
liked.
Even
talking
to
someone
from
oh
well,
you
know
it's
nice.
If
you
run
into
someone
that
works
for
them,
you
talk
to
them,
but
um
even
like.
F
One-On-One,
osha,
really
doesn't
do
anyone
any
good
because
um
they'll
come
in
and
you
know
they'll
look
for
uh
extension
cords
that
are
busted
and
they
really
you
know
they,
like,
I
said
they're
over
me,
they're
overworked
and
they're
underpaid,
and
if
they
really
had
the
teeth,
I
think
uh
it
would
be
great,
but
um
we
we
do
a
lot
better,
calling
the
city
of
boston,
ourself
isd
and
in
a
rep
or
something
like
that,
and
we
you
know
it
we
get
a.
We
get
our
point
a
lot
better.
F
That
way,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
even
if
the
pro
you
know
honestly,
if
a
project
you
know
we
saw
a
union,
we
see
non-union
union
non-union.
The
project
has
to
get
built
um
in
in.
If
it's,
if
it's
going,
it's
just
going
like.
Let's
get
the
end,
let's
get
the
best
we
can
for
the
neighborhood,
and
um
you
know
this.
I
think
the
city
of
boston
has
done
a
better
job
10
times
better
than
all
she
could
ever
do.
Thank
you
well,.
H
H
Any
other,
I
you
know,
sort
of
changes
that
we've
seen
in
um
in
both
the
workload,
because
this
has
been
a
significant
shift.
We
think
about
safety
that
still
remains
paramount,
that
physical
safety
piece,
but
now
we're
dealing
with
the
protocols
that
are
put
in
place
and
probably
will
be
in
place
for
the
foreseeable
future.
C
So
we
want
their
matters
higging
affidavit.
We
want
their
uh
now.
They
have
to
provide
a
coverage
safety
plan.
That
requires
an
additional
review
for
us
now
and
sometimes
some
additional
back
and
forth
between
us
and
applicants,
which
slows
down
the
process
and
it
does
create
more
work.
But
it's
it's.
The
most
important
thing
is
public
health
and
public
safety,
so
that
has
added
an
additional
review
for
us.
C
Also,
we
we've
done
extensive
trainings
for
our
inspectors
to
um
so
that
they
can
have
a
better
eye
towards
the
public
health
protocols
that
now
need
to
be
in
place.
On
job
sites,
so
now
that's
an
additional
thing
that
inspectors
are
looking
for
on
job
sites.
um
With
respect
to
um
how
busy
things
are,
um
we
are
seeing
a
we're,
not
seeing
any
drop
off
and
permit
requests,
and
I
think,
we're
probably
busy
now
than
we
were
before-
and
we're
doing
a
permit
applications
our
reviews,
it's
all
remote.
C
Now
our
inspections
are
in
person,
but
everything
else
all
the
other
parts
of
the
process
is
now
being
done
remotely,
which
does
have
some
communication
challenges
and
has
required
us
to
um
to
do
a
lot
more
education
and
a
lot
more
outreach
uh
with
folks
seeking
permits
for
variety
for
whatever
reason.
um
So
I
want
to
just
take
an
opportunity
just
to
remind
folks
that
they
should
visit
our
website.
C
We
have
a
covet
informational
page
that
it
explains
how
you
can
access
everything
that
you
need
to
access
from
isd,
whether
it's
through
our
permitting
process
or
any
other
part
of
isd.
There's
um
there
are
new
ways
and
modified
ways
for
use
to
get
for
you
to
get
services
from
isd
so
visit
our
page
at
um
cityofboston.gov
and
visit
the
isd,
informational
corporate
19
webpage.
F
F
Yeah,
please
I'm
sorry
just
I
would
hate
to
be
sitting
there
where
um
isd
is
because
these
covet
plans
are
so
you
know,
every
single
company
has
a
different
covet
plan
and
a
different
way
to
deal
with
it,
and
it's.
um
We
just
went
through
a
little
training
yesterday
on
on.
You
know
what
happens
when
someone
actually
gets
covered
or
gets
sent
home
with
it
or
uh
who's
responsible
for
paying
him.
Does
he
get
paid?
Does
he
not
get
paid
and
tracing?
A
A
um
I'll
start
with
uh
mr
rhodes,
mr
rhodes,
when
when
a
young
person
starts
off
in
the
apprenticeship
program,
can
you
talk
about
the
safety
training
that
person
would
receive
as
an
apprenticeship
and
then
each
step
moving
up
until
it
becomes?
um
You
know
fully
certified
and
is
that
training
all
continued?
F
Absolutely
so
when
um
say
say
you
come
off
the
streets
of
boston.
You
know
totally
nothing
like
myself
when
I
did
uh
33
years
ago,
I'm
kind
of
aging
myself
um
I
walked
and
I
didn't
know
what
a
hammer
was
to
compared
to
a
screwdriver,
but
I
just
knew
this.
I
could
make
5
25
an
hour
compared
to
the
425
I
was
making.
So
I
said.
Oh,
this
is
a
good
move
um
so
right
when
they
start,
they
get
a
general
overview
of
the
whole
program
and
what
it
takes
to
be
a
carpenter.
F
They
do
a
whole
week
of
just
basic
training.
It's
like
a
basic
uh
safety
training
about
tools
how
to
dress
how
to
act,
how
to
protect
their
eyes.
Their
you
know,
hard
hat
safety
gloves
uh
working
conditions.
How
to
stay
safe
in
certain
working
conditions
outside
is
different
than
inside.
Of
course,
um
heights
um
they'll
be
introduced
to
um
you
know
the
different
types
of
equipment
they
might
use
on
a
big
large
scale
like
um
aerial
lifts
um
and
then
they'll
be
introduced
to
um
their
personal
protective
equipment,
their
harnesses.
F
So
when
they're
lift,
you
know
climbing
any
type
of
scaffold
you
have
to
get
certified
in
the
scaffolds.
It's
pretty
it's
a
lot,
the
first
time.
So
that's
why
they
kind
of
they
kind
of
go.
It's
spread
out
over
four
years.
um
You
know
the
first
time
is
like
a
generalized
um
addition.
Just
to
keep
them
safe,
make
sure
they
go
home
with
the
ten
fingers
in
you
know
every
what
they
went
to
work
with
um
safety
on
the
saws,
uh
any
kind
of
power
tool
they
can
touch
uh
when
you're
a
first
year
apprentice.
F
That's
what
you
really
have
to
be
safe
about
um
a
lot
of
accidents
happen.
That
way,
you
know,
um
and
the
other
thing
is
just
general
like
um
safety
of
a
person
as
far
as
carrying
certain
things
uh
on
a
in
a
building
like
uh
how
to
walk
upstairs
with
equipment
um
stuff,
all
that
training
is
like,
maybe
the
first
year
um
and
then
uh
the
at
the
second
time
at
school.
It's
like
probably
after
the
first
six
months
they
do
their
osha
um
10.
F
uh
osha
10
is
like
is
comes
right
from
the
federal
government,
those
standards.
um
Everyone
has
to
do
that.
But
then,
by
the
time
they
graduate
every
single
kid
should
have
a
32-hour
osha
card
in
their
pocket,
which
is
pretty
much
covers
it
all.
There's
one
other
certificate
above
that
it's
500
hours,
which
is
you
know,
I
don't
think
anyone
uh
normal
guy
will
have
that
certificate
walking
around
it's
a
long
journey.
F
You
know
it's
a
long
journey
every
and
then
not
just
um
the
training
they
receive
at
the
school
um
they're
gonna
they're
gonna
require
job-specific
training,
because
every
job
is
different.
They
might
be
on
a
high-rise
they
might
be
down
in
the
tunnel.
They
might
be
on
the
mbta
tunnel
working
at
night.
F
A
What's
what's
your
advice,
recommendations
or
um
or
opinion,
we
often
see
construction
sites
in
dense
neighborhoods,
but
the
the
construction
you
know,
scaffolding
or
the
equipment
oftentimes,
is
in
the
middle
of
the
sidewalk.
um
I
know
I
know
inspectors
will
come
out
from
isd,
but
what
what
can
we
learn
from
that
or
how
can
we?
How
can
we
deal
with
that
situation?
E
E
Actually
counselor,
if
you
call
isd
isd,
we
will
have
an
inspector
out
there
promptly
once
again,
but
we
have
what
we
have
to
look
at.
We
have
to
consider
the
job
site
itself.
If,
if
equipment
has
to
be
loaded
onto
that
site,
we
have
they
have
to
cross
the
sidewalk
they
have
to,
and
then
what
we're
looking
at
okay
dpw
permits,
perhaps
please
detail
to
get
that
equipment
and
all
the
stock
in
and
off
the
site.
E
There
will
be
obviously
a
limited
time
and
that
will
be
done
in
an
efficient
manner.
That's
our
job
when
it
nothing
nothing's
to
hang
around
on
the
sidewalk,
nothing,
uh
nothing
unsafe
or
dangerous.
Unless
there
is
it's
required,
you
know
just
because
they're
working
on
the
specific
elevation
of
the
building
itself,
that
has
to
be
there.
Otherwise,
if
it
is,
anybody
feels
it's
an
unsafe
situation
or
it's
been
ongoing
for
too
long
call
us.
We
will
address
it
and
we'll
address
it
with
the
contractor
and
other
homeowner.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
and
my
final
question,
maybe
as
a
follow-up
um
with
the
with
the
construction
site
in
in
a
neighborhood,
if
the,
if
the
company,
if
the
company
has
done
work
for
the
weekend
on
a
friday
afternoon,
they're
going
to
come
back
monday
or
they
may
come
back
a
week
later.
What
is
the
protocol
for
making
sure
that
you
know
the
the
the
equipment?
E
I
may
once
again
that's
the
responsibility
of
the
end
of
the
company
itself
and
what
we
have
to
consider
too,
that
equipment
is
very
expensive
and
costly
and
the
liability
so
99.9
of
the
cases
they're
going
to
make
sure
that
they're
lyft
it's
it's
non-accessible
and
uh
to
any
individual
and
obviously
you
know
nothing
is
fail.
Safe
we've
had
some
incidents
where
you
know
people
have
climbed
lifts
and
with
tragedy,
but
you
know,
for
the
most
part,
the
job
site
is
required
to
be
secured,
fenced,
locked
and
uh
no
access
to
that
site.
E
D
A
I
J
J
J
um
You
know,
protocols
and
and
policies
on
the
construction
sites,
but
uh
always
good
every
once
in
a
while
to
sort
of
have
a
quality
control
check,
which
is
my
sense
as
to
what
you're
looking
to
do
here
as
the
chair
and
obviously
we'll
continue
to
support
those
efforts
so
to
the
construction
partners
that
are
uh
that
are
here
and
listening
in.
uh
We
continue
to
uh
look
forward
to
working
together.
They
add
tremendous
value
to
our
city
as
we
continue
to
see.
J
You
know,
buildings
come
up
out
of
the
ground
and
uh
you
think
about
we
best.
The
most
colleges,
universities
and
hospital
and
network
of
community
health.
Centers-
and
um
you
know,
boston-
is
a
safe
and
livable
city.
People
want
to
come
here
and
it's
the
partnership
we
have
with
the
uh
the
construction
companies
and
the
building
trades
that
are
are
a
big
part
of
that
success.
So
I
appreciate
those
that
are
participating
and
listening
in
and
uh
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
as
the
chair.
Thank
you.
Council
fund.
A
K
You,
uh
mr
chair,
I'm
I'm
joining
a
little
late
here.
I
want
to
appreciate
you
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue,
not
just
as
chair
of
the
committee,
but
as
someone
who
cares
deeply
for
workers
in
our
city.
I
want
to
thank
the
panel.
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
um
the
hearing
to
find
out
what
more
we
can
do
around
safety.
um
I
think
there
are
additional
conversations
we
need
to
have
in
terms
of
wage
theft
and
again
making
sure
that
our
workers
are
protected.
K
A
A
Signed
up
for
public
testimony,
no
one
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
excellent
and
um
before
I
before
we
depart.
um
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
being
here
for
commissioner
dion
irish
assistant,
commissioner
sean
leiden,
mr
ryle
rhodes.
I
know
the
mayor's
office
as
well.
My
colleagues
um
are
also
here.
A
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
tremendous
um
information
that
you
provided,
the
general
public
to
to
isd
team
and
to
mr
rhodes
and
as
chair
of
the
city
and
neighborhood
services,
I
especially
like
to
work
on
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
city
government
issues
and
to
be
informative,
so
it's
informative
to
the
public.
I
know
we
had
a
hearing
commissioner
and
assistant
commissioner
recently
on
pest
control
um
on
illegal
dumping.
A
We
have
one
coming
up
on
um
the
workings
of
the
water
and
sewer,
and
so
it's
these
issues
aren't
safety,
but
they
I'm
on
sexy,
but
they
impact
the
quality
of
life
of
residents
and
of
so
many
people
across
the
city.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
isd
team
for
their
professionalism
working
with
the
residents,
but
also
using
this
as
an
opportunity
to
educate
the
public
as
well,
because
I
think,
that's
also
part
of
our
job.
um
Having
said
that,
I'm
I'm
so
proud
to
represent
district
2..
A
We
have
a
lot
of
ongoing
construction
that
is
taking
place
in
my
district
and
I'm
proud
of
the
workers
that
are
there,
helping
build
a
strong
economy
and
making
sure
that
safety
safety
protocols
are
part
of
that
strong
economy,
and
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
um
mr
ryle
rhodes
from
the
cop
in
his
union.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
the
other
building
trade
setup
that
we
deal
with,
that
we
work
with
and
uh
say.
Thank
you
to
the
issd
team.