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Docket #0863 - re: pest control and illegal dumping in the City of Boston
A
Thank
you
for
attending
the
city
council
working
session.
Today
again,
my
name
is
ed
flynn,
chair
of
the
city,
the
city
and
neighborhood
services
committee,
in
accordance
with
governors,
baker,
governor
baker's
march
12,
2020,
executive
order,
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
in
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meeting
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
working
session.
A
A
A
um
Today's
working
session
is
on
docket
zero.
Eight
six,
three
order
for
a
working
session
to
discuss
pest
control
and
illegal
dumping
in
the
city
of
boston.
This
matter,
as
I
mentioned,
is
sponsored
by
myself.
Council
edwards,
council
braided
referred
to
the
city
on
neighborhood
services
on
july
21st
2021.
We
already
held
a
hearing
on
this,
and
this
is
basically
a
follow-up
working
session.
A
B
Sure
no
just
thank
you
for
holding
this
meeting
and
um
I
know
from
being
a
resident
in
dorchester.
Pest
control
is
a
big,
a
big
thing.
It's
it's
a
lot
of
my
calls
already,
not
just
in
that
where
I'm
city-wide,
I
know,
austin
brighton
suffers
from
it,
but
also
south
boston
and
all
of
the
neighborhoods,
and
then
you
know
illegal
dumping,
something
I
would
definitely
want
to
just
be
more
knowledgeable
on
and
have
the
information.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
join
this
working
session.
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you.
A
A
I
have
been
meeting
with
neighbors
regularly,
who
are
concerned
about
this
issue,
particularly
residents
in
the
south
end
chinatown
and
south
boston
bay
village,
who
are
dealing
with
serious
rodent
issues
and
illegal
dumping.
In
my
conversations
with
them,
we
have
talked
about
different
possible
strategies
that
we
can
employ
to
help
with
this
issue,
including
using
products
that
would
stop
rats
from
reproducing
using
a
new
kind
of
trash
can
increasing
number
of
inspectors
at
isd.
A
As
we
move
into
the
new
year,
I
want
to
discuss
ways
that
the
city
can
adequately
handle
this
issue.
It's
important
that
we
address
measures
for
effective
pest
control
in
keeping
our
streets
clean,
especially
when
we
are
trying
to
keep
our
residents
in
environments
healthy.
I
want
to
thank
the
pianos
for
being
here
today.
I
look
forward
to
this
discussion
with
you
and
I
also
want
to
specifically
say
thank
you
to
our
dedicated
and
professional
city
workers
that
do
this
work
every
day
and
every
night
it's
not
glamorous
work,
but
it's
it's
very
important.
A
It's
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
city
government
quality
of
life
issues
so
we're
paying
attention.
We
know
you
guys
work
hard,
you're
doing
the
job,
but
we
need
to
probably,
as
we
go
forward
in
the
budget
season,
um
put
more
resources
into
this
effort,
because
I
know
you
guys
need
assistance
again,
you're
doing
an
excellent
job.
I
appreciate
it
and
want
to
say
thank
you.
Having
said
that,
um
I
just
want
to
get
back
to
brian
or
john,
um
if
you
guys
want
to
start
with
with
an
opening
statement.
C
Yeah
I'll
jump
in
uh
thank
you.
Counselor
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
welcome
councilman
murphy.
uh
It's
a
pleasure
to
meet
you
and
uh
look
forward
to
working
with
you
with
the
rest
of
my
public
works
team
um
got
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
um
so
the
last
time
we
spoke.
We
talked
about
illegal
dumping
and
you
know
I
brought
up
a
few
points
as
to
you
know,
we
need
to
look
at
more
of
the
the
reasons
why
people
do
it
um
not
so
much.
You
know
just
to
make
a
mess.
C
There's
a
lot
of
financial
reasons.
Why
facilities
uh
you
know
either
the
contractors
will
dump
on
the
side
of
the
street
instead
of
going
to
a
facility
that
charges
you
know,
200
bucks,
a
ton
to
get
rid
of
material,
or
you
know
the
small
small,
uh
remodeling
companies
or
people
that
are
doing
their
own
work
tend
to.
You
know
not
be
a
large
uh
revenue
generator.
uh
You
know,
they're,
not
they're,
not
in
it,
for
the
big
money
and
they
don't
have
the
big
money.
C
So
then,
unfortunately,
we
we
see
the
trash
end
up
on
the
on
the
side.
Alleyway
or
um
you
know
somewhere
where
it's
not
supposed
to
be,
and
um
you
know
that's
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
is
the
cost.
You
know
the
trash
costs,
that's
about
90
dollars,
a
ton
and
the
commercial
construction
materials.
You
know
anywhere
from
double
that
to
triple
that
and
uh
some
materials
cost
even
more
to
get
rid
of.
So
um
you
know
trying
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
way
that
we
can.
C
A
lot
of
this
stuff
is
probably
coming
from
out
of
town
from
other
cities
that
have
you
know,
mandates
where
people
have
to
pay
to
get
rid
of
their
trash,
so
it
forces
them
to
take
some
other
things
to
other
cities
to
avoid
those
costs.
So
it's
you
know
it's
not
just
one
issue
here,
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
can
uncover
and
really
work
on.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
um
another
healthy
discussion
and
some
some
more
work
down
the
road.
A
C
It
depends,
um
johnny
can
speak
to
it
more
on
specifics,
but
um
you
know
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
pickup
truck
versus
a
one
bag.
You
know
illegal
dumping
can
be
classified
in
many
things,
and
I
think
you
know
the
power
that
you
and
the
council
have
as
long
as
well
as
the
state
legislature
working
on
increasing
fines.
C
You
know,
maybe
that's
something
we
look
at,
but
um
we
can
give
you
a
list
of.
uh
You
know
all
the
citations
that
we
write
and
the
the
value
for
each
of
them
and
we'll
see
that
you
know
this,
there's
a
so
probably
some
changes
that
we
can
make.
That
can
make
an
impact
almost
immediately.
If
we
include
uh
you
know
a
lot
of
the
commercial
businesses
and
stuff.
You
know
if
the
violation's
not
enough,
you
know
they're
not
going
to
uh
you
know
it's
really
not
going
to
do
anything
to
change
behavior.
C
D
D
What
we're
doing
is
going
out
to
a
neighborhood
with
our
entire
team.
um
A
lot
of
the
work
that
we
do
um
is
before
people
get
up
in
the
morning.
Our
crew
starts
at
four
a.m.
So,
um
just
because
folks
don't
see
us,
um
you
know
we
are
there,
we're
baiting
sewers
and-
um
and
so
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
uh
to
be
in
the
neighborhood.
We
uh
we
distribute
flyers.
D
um
We
meet
the
neighborhood
associations
out
there.
Let
them
bring
us
directly
to
properties
that
they're
having
issues
with
um
and
uh
we
have
the
source
baited
right
before
the
walk,
um
and
so
those
have
been
pretty
successful
um
and
there
is
no
end
date
in
those
um
whatever
neighborhoods
uh
I
I
know
comes
from.
D
We
talked
about
chinatown
um
and
the
south
end,
and
we've
done
quite
a
few
in
the
south
end,
um
but
they
haven't
been
the
full
team
and
so
we're
happy
to
to
go
out
there
with
the
full
team
and
uh
and
mark
especially
some
of
those
alleyways
in
the
back,
the
public
alleyways
um
rodents
it
it
comes
down
to
uh
management
of
trash,
um
and
so
how
we
manage
that.
We
work
closely
with
code
enforcement
uh
who's
a
huge
help
to
us.
um
uh
Our
violations
are
different.
A
Thank
you,
john
hey
john.
Can
I
ask,
um
could
I
get
a
list
of
upcoming
walkthroughs,
regardless,
if
they're
in
my
district
or
not
um
just
so
I'm
aware
of
it
and
I
I
would
like
to
attend
um
some
of
them
um
regardless,
if
they're
in
my
district
or
not
um
so
if
you
can
and
when
you
have
them
scheduled,
you
can
just
email
email
it
over
to
me
just
so.
You
have
enough
enough
um
notice
notice.
D
We
we,
we
will
include
you
you
both
on
it
um
jessica
thomas,
is
the
the
assistant
commissioner
of
constituent
services,
um
and
she
uh
usually
sends
out
the
invite.
So
we
will
uh
we
will
send
those
invites.
I
know
that
uh
tomorrow
is
the
north
end
um
and
the
20th
is
uh
a
section
of
reidville
and
hyde
park.
I
believe-
um
and
so
I
will
get
you
both
of
those
invites
um
when
we,
when
we
conclude
the
meeting.
A
E
Absolutely
good
good
morning,
mr
chairman,
good
morning,
council
murphy
welcome
aboard.
Thank
you
last
time.
We,
since
the
last
time
we
spoke,
we've
done
some
enforcement
in
education
in
chinatown,
specifically
in
regards
to
the
cyclone
permits
we
visited
just
about
every
business
in
chinatown
and
checked
on
their
permits.
If
they
didn't
have
one
they've
been
given
the
application
in
the
directions
how
to
reach
out
to
environmental
services
at
inspectional
services
to
obtain
that
permit.
So
that's
gonna
be
a
big
help
with
john's
team
uh
trying
to
control
the
trash
down
in
chinatown.
E
E
E
B
I'm
not
sure
yeah,
so
um
brian,
I
think
you
mentioned
about
the
the
list
of
fines
that
you
have
I'd,
be
fascinated
to
see
that,
because
I
know
one
um
one
day,
my
aunt,
I
live
in
a
three
family
that
my
aunt
owns
and
she
got
a
like.
I
think
it
was
a
15
fine
for
like
weeds,
but
I
would
just
love
to
see
but-
and
you
mentioned
about
the
education
part
of
it
too
and
john
you
mentioned
that
also,
but
that
would
just
be
great
because
I
know
on
my
street.
B
I
live
on
monsignor
lyden
way
and
there's
several
apartment
buildings,
um
I'm
on
the
corner
near
adams
street.
But
there
is
confusion
around
and
I
would
just
love
to
know
the
correct
answer
about.
When
you
bring
trash
to
the
street.
I've
been
told
because
several
of
the
apartment
buildings
will
put
out
our
trash
comes
on
friday,
thursday,
around
5..
There
could
be
a
mound
like
with
50
or
60
trash
bags,
but
they're,
usually
like
the
white
um
kitchen
bags,
and
the
trash
comes
mate,
sometimes
not
until
noon
on
friday.
B
So
often
when
I
would
come
home
from
work,
there
were
sections
on
my
street
that
just
needed
street
cleaning
immediately.
Just
because
you
know
the
bags
would
open,
but
just
just
that
knowledge
would
be
great
for
me
to
know,
because
I've
heard
that
you
may
have
to
be
in
a
barrel
when
it's
on
your
property.
But
when
you
put
it
to
the
street,
they
don't
have
to
be,
which
is
probably
true.
But
just
knowing
what
you
know.
B
What
information
I
can
share
with
my
neighbors
or
not
or
if
there's
like,
because
several
of
them,
like
you
mentioned
john,
like
absentee
landlords,
not
sure
who
puts
the
trash
out.
But
it
definitely
has
been
an
issue
in
my
neighborhood
before
so,
and
that
list
defines
because
I
just
thought
it
was
kind
of
funny
like
that.
We
got
a
ticket
and
it
looked
like
a
parking
ticket
with
a
picture
that
they
were
like
weeds
under
her
hedges.
B
B
E
Yeah,
so
the
residential
trash
can
be
out
after
five
o'clock
the
night
before
pickup
and
like
you,
like
you,
stated
when
it's
on
your
property,
it's
got
to
be
stored
in
a
secure
barrel,
but
when
it's
out
of
a
pickup
it
does
not
have
to
be
in
a
barrel,
unfortunately,
and
I'm
in
the
same
neighborhood.
So
I
see
it
all
the
time
myself
the
people
coming
through
for
the
cans,
the
bottles
they
ain't
open.
They
can't
open
the
bags
they
came
apart.
E
um
Unfortunately,
that's
something
that's
really
hard
to
enforce,
because
it's
they
just,
they
don't
carry
ids,
and
if
you
ask
them
they
just
they
walk
away
from
you,
but
again,
residential
after
five
o'clock,
commercial
is
after
six
o'clock
and
commercial
trash
can
be
picked
up
any
time
of
the
night
up
until
seven
a.m.
In
the
morning.
B
G
C
Yeah
another
one
thing
about
the
education
and
stuff,
also
with
waste
reduction
and
code
enforcement
stuff,
um
especially
in
consular
flint's
district.
You
know
we're
working
on
um
trying
to
get.
You
know
outreach
materials
printed
in
multiple
languages.
I
think
you
know
if
we
have
the
message
it's
a
universal
message
across
the
city.
It
should
be
in
the
languages
which
the
people
understand
what
we're
talking
about
and
especially
in
chinatown.
C
This
seems
to
be
a
large,
larger
disconnect
between
the
residents
and
and
the
message
that
the
city
stops
trying
to
get
out
there,
and
um
you
know
we're
working
on
new
materials
to
get
out
we're
hiring
people
to
get
into
the
neighborhoods
go
to
community
meetings.
Talk
to
people,
you
know
uh
john's
got
people
on
the
grounds
walking
the
streets.
You
know.
um
So
I
think
if
you
know,
if
we
just
leave
it
alone
and
let
people
just
throw
stuff
wherever
and
not
understand,
you
know
it's
our
own
fault
for
doing
that.
C
You
know
we're
just
kind
of
allowing
it,
so
we
need
to
really
just
jump
in
there
and
you
know
get
the
people
that
we
need
in
all
the
neighborhoods
to
so
everybody
gets
the
same
service
and
um
you
know
just
explain.
This
is
how
you
do
this.
You
know
I
mean
everybody's
we're
looking
at
expanding
composting,
but
you
know
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
why
it
was
slow
to
do
it
is.
Is
that
message
you
know
getting
people
to
understand
how
to
do
it,
how
to
do
it
right?
C
How
not
to
fail
right
out
the
gate.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
educating
properly,
and
uh
you
know,
following
up
with
folks
and
not
just
saying
here's
your
bin
figure
it
out.
You
know,
so
it's
we're
just
trying
to
work
through
some
of
that
thing,
but
the
education
and
the
you
know,
working
with
the
language
access
team,
has
been
really
helpful,
um
so
it's
nice
to
have
them
to
assist
once
in
a
while
whenever
we
need
it
really.
C
A
Yeah,
that's
a
good
point.
I
also
want
to
recognize
my
colleague
from
austin
in
brighton
council
liz
braden
council
braden.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
Thank
you
for
the
important
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
this
issue
um
at
this
time.
Council
celebrating.
Do
you
want
to
um
give
any
opening
comment
or
ask
a
question,
or
do
you
want
to
whatever?
Whatever
you
feel
like.
F
No,
I
I
want
to
thank
um
brian
and
your
team.
I
I
know
john
you
were
out
in
austin,
I
call
it
a
rat
safari.
um
We
had
a
rat
safari
last
week.
um
I
really
appreciate
your
efforts
to
try.
It
just
seems
this
everywhere.
I
go
everybody's
talking
to
me
about
rats
and
it's
it's.
uh
I
know
we
had
a.
We
had
a
problem
on
our
own
house
and
um
it's
very
distressing.
F
um
You
know
if
you
have
my
partner's
lived
in
this
house
for
all
of
our
life
and
we've
never
had
rad
trouble,
and
this
year
we've
got
rat,
trouble,
big
big
rat
trouble
and
uh
but
we're
dealing
with
it.
But
not
everybody
has
the
resources
to
be
able
to
do
what
we're
doing
so.
um
I
just
feel
that
you
know
the
best.
Whatever
we
can
do
and
I
had
a
question
and
I'm
sorry
for
my
lateness.
F
I
was
at
another
meeting,
um
you
know
the
the
the
new
technologies
and
and
the
talk
about
this,
um
this
be
it
that
is
a
contraceptive
for
rats
to
help
prevent
them
reproducing
so
frequently.
um
I
I
don't
know
if
we're
looking
at
any
of
those
options,
but
um
I
just
feel
everywhere
I
go
in
the
neighborhood.
Everybody
wants
to
talk
to
me
about
rats
and
it's
it's
sort
of
overwhelming.
At
this
point
uh
I
I
know
so
much
of
you.
F
I've
always
said
it's
a
human
created
problem
because
we
don't
dispose
of
her
trash
and
be
appropriately
and
whatever,
but
I
think
the
issue
that
we
see
in
the
neighborhood
is
that
um
we
have
a
lot
of
absentee
landlords.
They
don't
provide
adequate
trash
cans
and
then
their
tenants
don't
use
it
don't
dispose
of
the
trash
appropriately.
So
it's
many
many
many
factors
involved
here,
so
uh
you
know,
I
think
I
think,
there's
no
easy
effects.
We
just
have
to
keep
plugging
away
at
it,
and-
um
and
thank
you
all
for
your
work.
F
A
Well,
thank
you,
council
brad,
and
I
think
council
braden
um
summed
it
up
the
best
is
you
know
every
everywhere
we
go
as
as
district
city
councils,
I'm
and
I'm
sure
this
is
the
case
with
council
murphy
as
well,
but
everywhere
we
go.
People
are
asking
us:
what
are
we
doing
on
pest
control
issues
and
it's
these
quality
of
life
issues
that
these
neighborhood
issues
that
are
critical
are
critical
to
the
residents,
their
their
public
health
issues,
their
quality
of
life
issues?
A
And
you
know
if
you,
if
you
have
a
little
child,
an
infant
child
and
there's
a
unfortunately,
if
there's
a
rat
in
your
house
and
that's
devastating
news
for
you,
if
you're
not
able
to
deal
with
that
the
next.
The
next
step
really,
unfortunately,
is
probably
is
probably
leaving
the
apartment
or
or
the
house.
A
You
would
hate
to
see
a
young,
family
or
or
an
older
couple
leave
because
of
that,
but
that,
unfortunately,
that's
that's
a
that's
a
possibility,
um
so
so
brian
just
wanted
to
get
back
to
you
on
on
on.
One
thing
is
working
with
the
language
and
communication
access
team,
they're
excellent,
and
I
also
have
people
on
my
staff
that
um
that
speak
cantonese
and
mandarin
um
in
writing
in
chinese
and
in
spanish
as
well.
A
C
C
You
know
like
we
want
to
raise
the
fines,
but
don't
find
me,
I
don't
you
know,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
resident's
educated
properly
you
know,
so
I
think
um
if,
if
you
could
have
one
of
his
staff
members
reach
out
to
me
and
we
can,
uh
we
can
have
our
teams
connect.
That
would
be
great.
We
can
work
on
specific
uh
issues
related
to
chinatown.
A
A
What
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
working
with
developers
working
with
contractors
during
the
construction
phase
of
a
site
at
the
site
and
the
follow-up?
I
think
the
critical
part
is
the
follow-up
after
the
work
is
done
and
then
it's
almost
as
if
the
the
contractor
leaves
and
then
then
it's
the
residence.
A
Then
it's
the
resident's
responsibility
to
deal
with
pest
control,
and
that's
that's
not
where
that's
not
what
I
support.
um
I
know
there
is
a.
I
know
there
is
um
requirements
that
the
contractor
has
to
stay,
whether
it's
30
days
or
or
45
days,
but
I
think
we
have
to
hold
contractors
more
accountable
when
they
finish
the
project.
It's
not
just
pack
up
your
gear
and
go
on
to
the
next
project.
It's
it's
staying
here.
A
Having
someone
come
here
frequently
dealing
with
pest
control
being
responsive
working
with
the
city
government,
um
so
I'm
I'm
gonna
call
I'm
calling
these
guys
out.
I
don't
I
don't
like
some
of
their
behavior,
um
but
tell
me
brian
or
john.
What
is
the
current
requirement
and
is
this
a?
Is
this
a
challenge
for
us.
D
D
Currently,
we
ask
them
to
keep
the
pest
control
throughout
the
project
um
based
on
road
and
activity
in
the
neighborhood,
which
is
basically
every
neighborhood
in
in
the
city,
um
and
so
after
that
point
it
would
be
based
on
a
complaint
that
comes
in.
um
If
an
inspector
went
back
out
um
to
to
the
property
for
rodents,
um
it
would
be
because
we
got
a
complaint
that
they
were
seeing
rodent
activity.
A
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
know
it
seems
like
it's
not
enough.
In
my
opinion,
it's
not
enough
that
the
developers
and
contractors
um
you
know.
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
policy
in
place
where
they
need
to
be
accountable
for
their
construction
site,
even
after
they
finish
and
to
provide
a
safe
and
healthy
environment
test.
Pest
control
is
it,
but
they
need
to
provide
a
healthy
environmental
site
full
of
residents
and
and
they're
not
doing
that
and
that
it's
almost
passing
the
buck.
Then
it's
the
city's
responsibility
to
to
to
follow
up.
C
They
contact
us
to
get
online
with
the
city's
trash
collection,
provided
that
they're
paying
property
taxes
because
that's
what's
funding
our
um
services
and
a
lot
of
times
these
larger
buildings
won't
have
significant
trash
space.
um
So
I
don't
know
at
what
point
they
get
signed
off
on
the
you
know
when
they're
being
developed
or
the
even
the
drawings,
but
I
think
for
whatever
reason,
the
trash
and
I'm
sure
it's.
C
You
know
the
price
of
a
square
foot
in
the
city's
gone
up
quite
a
bit,
but
I
think
the
trash
needs
to
be
something
that
they're
thinking
of
beforehand
trash
recycling
and
food
waste
composting
or
garbage
disposals
are.
There
needs
to
be
something
where
the
developers
thinking
ahead
of
time
before
it
becomes
a
mess,
and
then
it's
someone
else's
problem
and
then
that
other
developer
moves
on
to
the
next
project.
Like
you
said,
um
you
know,
it
leaves
us
at
a
loss
and
then
the
neighbors
that
allowed
this
to
happen.
A
B
um
Just
one
last
question:
I
know
we
and
I
talked
about
the
trash
and
john
you
live
near
me.
We
also
have
a
big
rodent
issue,
also
and
brian
you
mentioned
about
the
education
piece,
but
is
safety
important
also.
I
know
it
definitely
will
be,
but
I
know
that
many
residents
just
feel
desperate
and
you
must
see
this
consulate
in
brighton
and
alston
all
the
time
and
they
try
to
fix
it
themselves
and
that's
dangerous.
B
I
mean
in
my
own
house
we
had
the
horrible
thing
where
our
dog
died
from
eating
rat
poison
when
we
had
a
really
bad
rodent
issue
years
years
ago,
and
I
live
on
the
corner
adam
street,
so
you
mentioned
also
about
the
contract
is
we
could
sometimes
have
more
than
one
different?
You
know
contractor
out.
There
could
be
the
city
in
one
spot,
a
contractor
and
another
doing
road
work.
B
D
Counselor
murphy,
so
when
we,
um
when
we
by
law,
if
you
live
in
a
single
family
or
you
that
you
own
or
you
live
in
a
two
family
that
you
occupy,
one
of
the
units
you're
allowed
to
do
your
own
pest
control,
we
always
recommend
that
you
hire
a
licensed
pest
control
um
technician
and
that
is
uh
for
liability.
Like
you
said
about,
I'm
sorry
about
your
dog.
D
um
The
misapplication
of
of
pesticides
is
always
a
concern
for
us
um
and
so
education
around
that
um
when
people
do
go
by
it
themselves,
if
they
ask
us,
uh
you
know
there
are
products
at
uh
home
depot
that
have
protective
boxes,
but
we
always
recommend
that
they
hire
a
licensed
pest
control.
uh
Technician
um
for
the
simple
liability
in
case
your
neighbor's,
dog
or
somebody's.
You
know
um
you
you'll
be
held
responsible
if
it's
a
misapplication
and
you
don't
follow
the
label.
B
D
Know
so
they
they
should
reach
out
to
us,
um
and
so
uh
all
of
our
violations
go
right
to
the
to
the
landlord,
um
and
we
would
um
we
would
force
them
to
get
uh
pest
control
on
the
the
property
correct
any
violations.
So
we
enforce
um
the
trash,
the
condition
of
the
property,
anything
that
would
be
a
harborage
or
a
food
source
for
the
rodents.
And
then
we
also
work
very
closely
with
the
housing
division
which
do
more
interior
stuff
um
and
also
address
uh
pest
issues
uh
for
tenants.
F
C
On
that
not
currently,
but
it's
definitely
a
conversation
because
you're,
seeing
more
and
more
of
it,
obviously
with
more
development,
there's
more
of
an
opportunity
to
go
inside
these
buildings
and
see
how
they
actually
design
them.
um
It
would
be
certainly
worth
the
conversation
um
on
our
end.
You
know
these
new
buildings
that
are
coming
into
the
city
with
you
know,
50
to
100
units.
C
C
In
my
you
know
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
it's
it's
more
of
a
commercial
enterprise
when
you're
having
a
large.
You
know
revenue
source
like
like
that:
it's
not
a
single
family
anymore.
It's
not
a
two
family,
three
family
in
austin.
It's
you
know
it's
it's
a
much
larger
scale.
um
So
it's
there's
some
discussion
that
could
be
had
about
you
know
private
collection
happening,
um
you
know
and
then
it's
on
the
landlord.
Although.
C
F
F
Yes,
then,
the
house
next
door,
when
you
have
maybe
10
10
young
adults,
living
um
young
professionals
and
they're
just
running
out
of
they're
just
running
out
of
receptacle
space.
It's
just
it's
all
overflowing
every
every
week.
So
um
I
I
don't
know
in
terms
of
increasing
frequency.
I
know
that's
an
added
cost,
but
yeah.
C
That's
I
mean
you're,
not
doubling
the
volume
you're,
just
doubling
the
amount
of
missions
you're
putting
in
the
streets
and
adding
trucks
to
a
job
that
you
don't
necessarily
need
to.
um
You're,
not
gonna
generate
more
trash.
If
we
pick
you
up
twice
versus
once,
you
know
what
I
mean,
so
it's
like
it's
not
gonna,
really
do
anything
except
put
trucks
on
your
street.
C
F
C
Yeah
we're
working
through
that
still
for
um
we
have
a
couple
of
different
um
strategies
that
we're
working
through
with
um
we'll
be
working
with
chief
hodge
soon
when
he
comes
in
see
what
um
see
what
his
thoughts
would
be
on
it
and
just
want
to
make
sure
we
roll
something
out,
um
you
know
soon
so
yeah,
it's
very
close.
um
We
just
want
to
uh
make
sure
that
we're
giving
everybody
equal
opportunity
and
then
also
adding
a
you
know
some
more
free
options
for
uh
drop-off
programs,
so
yeah.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council,
braden
and
just
following
up
on
council
braden's
comments.
um
She
probably
has
similar
cases
like
I
do,
because
she
has
a
hospital
in
her
district
at
st
elizabeth's
in
the
south
end.
I
have
a
lot
of
medical
medical
professionals
that
live
in
the
south
end
in
the
downtown
area,
too,
is
mass
general,
whether
they're
doctors,
the
nurses,
but
they
they
work.
You
know
non-traditional
shifts,
they
don't
work
nine
to
five
or
eight
to
four.
Sometimes
they'll
work
15
hours
a
day,
sometimes
the
work
24..
A
So
you
know,
there's
no
good
time
for
them
to
put
their
garbage
out
is,
is
the
concern
um
and
we
still
haven't,
come
up
with
a
good
plan,
for
you
know
how?
How
do
we
make
a?
How
do
we
work
with
professionals
like
that?
Certainly
we
don't
want
to
penalize
them.
We
want
to
help
them,
but
how
do
we
make
it
work
for
the
city?
How
do
we
make
it
work
for
the
the
professionals
that
are
in
the
medical
community
or
or
whatever
type
of
job
they
have?
A
A
C
C
um
You
know,
so
you
could
say
that
that
that's
an
issue
across
the
city
for
a
lot
of
residents,
um
but
it's
a
matter
of
getting
those
specific
folks
in
the
room
and
having
a
conversation
and
seeing
what
would
work
what's
doable
from
a
realistic
point
of
view,
and
you
know
what
we
can't
do
or
what
you
know,
what
we're
limited
to
with
contracts
and
then
possibly,
you
know
the
way
that
contracts
are
done.
You
know
perhaps
there's
a
there's
a
testing
phase
or
something
like
that.
C
C
A
A
You
know,
maybe
maybe
the
night
before
trash
the
scheduled
trash
pickup
the
night
before
you
know
you
could
come
to
this
certain
site
on
charmet
avenue
from
seven
o'clock
at
night
to
to
nine
o'clock
at
night,
there'll
be
a
there'll,
be
a
truck
there.
That
will
um
pick
up
your
trash
if
you're,
unable
to
put
it
out
properly.
The
the
next
day.
C
Well,
I
I
we
can
certainly
consider
and
have
this
discussion
and
my
my
first
thing
that
that
comes
to
mind
would
be
you
know,
having
a
truck
parked
in
front
of
council
of
murphy's
house
from
seven
to
nine.
um
You
know
idling
waiting
for
people
to
show
up.
It's
not
really
a
you
know
ideal
for
her.
If
that
was
you
know,
or
if
it
was
in
front
of
your
house
or
in
a
dead
end,
you
know
offer
you
know
some
aren't
salty.
If
there's
a
truck
making
noise
at
nine
o'clock
at
night,
we
get.
A
We're
putting
um
you
know,
quality
of
life
issues
um
increase
and
we
don't
want
to
see
people
move,
move
out
of
the
city
because
of
this
issue.
We
want
to
work
proactively
with
residents
to
make
sure
that
we
we
deal
effectively
with
pest
control
and
again
the
the
city
of
boston
employees
that
work
on
this
issue.
I
think
they're
excellent.
A
I
think
they
do
a
tremendous
job,
but
we
need
more
of
them,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
a
priority
for
us
going
forward
we're
also
probably
going
towards
to
increase
the
composting
as
well.
So,
if
we're
increasing
composting,
um
you
know
we
also
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
resources
to
effectively
do
composting,
and
that
also
includes
more
inspectors
that
includes
public
awareness,
education
campaigns
working
with
residents
to
educate
them
on
composting
on
on
recycling,
we're
almost
paying
as
much
now
on
recycling
as
we
do
on
traditional
traditional
trash
pickup.
A
So
these
are
expensive
issues,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
resources
to
effectively
deal
with
them.
Having
said
that,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
brian,
to
john
and
to
john
um
for,
for
testifying
and
for
your
professionalism
and
for
fio
teams,
professionalism
as
well.
Let
me
ask
council,
murphy
and
then
council
braden,
if
they
want
to
also
give
closing
closing
statements.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
um
and
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
um
your
isd
folks
and
you
you've
been
a
great
resource
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
our
walk
around
and
trying
to
just
work
anything
we
can
do
to
help
um
spread
the
message
to
our
neighbors,
um
about
appropriate
disposal
of
trash,
etc.
F
um
We're
we're
all
in
to
help
you
with
that,
and-
and
there
will
be
you
know-
community
farmers,
markets
and
things
that
we
can.
We
can
bring
the
message
and
share
help
share
it
with
the
community
as
well,
and
this
is
sort
of
an
effort.
We
can't
just
put
it
all
on
you,
you
folks,
to
solve
it.
We
all
have
to
work
together
to
make
any
progress.
So
I
appreciate
um
I
also
want
to
echo
councillor
flynn's,
recommend
suggestions.
F
We
really
need
to
critically
look
at
whether
or
not
we
are
giving
you
enough
resources
to
do
the
job,
because
it's
just
a
it's
just
we
have
an
increasing
population.
um
This
I
don't
know
how
you
all.
Do
it
like
um
there's
so
many
different
aspects
to
what
you
do
in
inspectional
services,
and
um
you
know
just
let
us
keep
us
informed
about
how
we
can
be
supportive
and
what
we
can
do
to
help.
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council,
brazen
braden.
I
also
want
to
recognize
and
say
thank
you
to
kerry
and
to
juan
from
city
council,
central
staff
for
working
on
this
hearing
and
um
very
appreciate
what
you
guys
are
doing
as
well,
and
thank
you
again
to
the
administration
team.
That's
here
and
as
councillor
braden
said,
um
you
know
we're
here
as
as
you
know
I
I
know
all
of
you,
but
we're
here
to
work
closely
with
you.
A
We
respect
the
work
you're
doing
count
on
us
as
allies
and
friends,
and
it's
important
that
we
all
work
together,
because
we
want
the
same
results.
You
do
and
we're
we're
we're
fortunate
to
have
dedicated
and
professional
city
employees
like
you
and
your
team.
So
on
behalf
of
the
city
council,
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you
as
well
and
having
said
that,
um
this
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.