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Docket #0418 - Hearing to discuss off-leash dog recreation spaces in the City of Boston
A
Good
afternoon
everybody
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
My
name
is
city
councilor,
ed
flynn
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
city
council
committee
on
city
and
neighborhood
services,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
2020
executive
order,
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
public
leaving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
the
public
conduct
its
meeting
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing.
A
A
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
0418
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
off-leash
dog
recreation
spaces
in
the
city
of
boston.
This
matter
is
sponsored
by
city
council
ricardo
arroyo.
It
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
city
neighborhood
services
on
march
21st,
20
2021.
I
am
joined
by
my
colleague
city
councilor,
ricardo
arroyo,
city
council
of
kenzie
bach.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
counselor
o'malley,
so
at
this
time
I
will
first
let
my
colleagues
offer
opening
statements
and
then
hand
it
over
to
the
panelists
from
the
city
that
are
here
with
us
after
that
I'll
I'll
offer.
Testimony
from
my
colleagues
as
well,
we
are
also
joined
by.
A
A
Director
of
animal
care
in
control
community
advocates
that
are
also
planning
to
testify
are
cara,
holmquist
who's,
the
director
of
advocacy
for
the
mass
society
for
the
prevention
of
cruelty
to
animals
and
claudia
dunn,
who's,
the
vice
president
of
the
dog
park,
association
of
southwest
boston-
and
I
I
know
alexis
I
apologize
for
that
and
you
know
and
I'll
I'll
make
sure
I
have
it
corrected
your
last
name
at
this
time.
Let
me
offer
the
the
sponsor
counselor
arroyo
to
offer
opening
statement.
Council
royale.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
just
before
I
begin,
I
do
believe
that
the
advocates
are
in
the
attendee
waiting
room
if
we
can
let
them
in.
So.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
our
panelists,
and
thank
you
to
the
many
advocates
who
have
lifted
the
need
for
more
equitable
dog
park
distribution
throughout
the
city.
This
has
probably
been
one
of
the
hearings
that
I've
done.
C
That
has
received
the
most
interaction
and
the
most
response,
and
I
think
that
speaks
directly
to
several
things
which
I'll
just
briefly
go
into,
which
is
the
first
is
the
dire
need
for
this
access
to
dog
parks
in
the
city
of
boston,
of
which
there
are
seven
that
are
run
by
the
city.
One's
in
the
public
gardens
in
the
boston
common
one
is
in
the
south
end.
C
One
is,
in
the
north
end
three
are
in
dorchester
and
one
is
in
south
boston,
which
is
managed
by
a
private
of
butter,
but
what
those
neighborhoods
are
essentially
are
high
income
neighborhoods
and
the
reason
for
that
lack
of
access
is
due
to
the
fact
that
the
city
of
boston
historically
has
left
neighborhoods
to
advocate
on
their
own
to
bring
dog
parks
in
which
has
required
private
resources
that
require
private
partnerships.
C
To
get
these
things
done,
and
so
from
that
standpoint
it's
really
important
that
the
city
see
dog
parks,
not
as
something
that
is
sort
of
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
a
hobby
or
a
thing
to
do,
but
rather
a
place
to
allow
our
residents
and
our
constituents,
including
their
animals,
to
have
a
safe
and
equitable
place.
C
A
safe
and
open
place
to
play,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
advocated
for
strongly
as
a
city
councilor
for
district
five,
which
is
roslindale,
mattapan
and
hyde
park,
is
that
we
don't
have
any
on
this
part
of
town.
We
have
none
in
west
roxbury,
there's
none.
I
don't
believe,
there's
one
in
jp.
There's
none
in
park,
there's
none
in
roslindale,
there's
not
a
manapan,
and
this
disparity
is
a
real
issue
for
dog
owners
and
the
other
reason.
C
C
We
would
want
to
make
sure
that
our
children
are
safe
and
healthy
and
have
safe
and
healthy
places
to
play,
and
when
we
don't
do
that,
what
I
have
found
happens
is
that
people
take
risks
that
are
sort
of
unnecessary
or
cause
issues,
for
instance,
taking
off-leash
dogs
on
unleashed
parks,
and
we
have
a
second
set
of
constituent
services.
C
Calls
that
come
in
to
complain
about
the
fact
that
dogs
are
doing
that
or
that
dogs
are
being
walked
in
certain
areas
and
sort
of
that
issue
is
something
that
can
be
addressed
by
creating
safe
and
alternate
spaces
for
them
to
play,
and
so
boston
should
be
a
city
that
works
for
its
residents
when
it
comes
to
safe,
accessible
places
for
dogs
to
play.
It
doesn't,
and
I'm
hopeful
that
after
this
conversation,
we
can
either
have
a
road
map
or
some
idea
of
how
the
city
is
seeking
to
change
that.
D
Sure
just
to
say
that,
in
in
my
district
as
well,
I
see
firsthand
how
much
our
dogs
mean
to
the
families
in
our
district
and
and
how
much
demand
there
is
for
this
kind
of
space.
D
Obviously,
the
rotating
space
on
the
boston
common
is
well
used
and
well
loved,
but
you
know
there's
been
a
long
interest
in
kind
of
a
space
that
would
actually
you
know,
allow
for
allow
for
more
permanent
off-leash
dog
usage,
and
I'm
excited
that
something
along
those
lines
is
in
the
boston,
common
master
plan,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
our
folks
have
weighed
in
on
that.
There's.
E
D
I
grew
up
in
bay
village
and
while
I
was
still
living
there,
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
community
effort
to
put
together
a
small
dog
park
on
this
on
this
sort
of
corner
lot,
and
it
kind
of
happened
with
the
the
acquiescence
of
the
city,
but
not
to
council
royals
point
with
kind
of
the
support
and
the
reality
is
that
the
the
effort
to
actually
maintain
spaces
like
that
is
substantial.
D
So
I
think
it
is
a
part
of
the
sort
of
basic
infrastructure
of
a
city
where
we
have
and
love
our
dogs,
and
I
also
recognize
that
you
know
from
the
park's
perspective.
It
needs
financial
support
and
so
really
just
happy
to.
D
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
delighted
to
be
there.
I
wanted
to
congratulate
councillor
arroyo
for
his
leadership
on
this
issue.
B
I
have
been
a
huge
proponent
of
dog
parks
in
boston
for
my
entire
duration
on
this
body,
and
it
was
10
years
ago
this
upcoming
summers,
august
of
2011,
where
I
convened
the
first
meeting
looking
at
identifying
and
creating
some
off-leash
dog
opportunities
and
a
dog
run
at
millennium
park
in
west
roxbury,
from
that
the
southwest
dog
park
association
of
boston
was
born,
and
I'm
delighted
that
we're
gonna
hear
from
karen
claudia
and
so
many
others
who've
been
so
instrumental.
Obviously,
I
I
am
without
hesitation
supportive
of
this
idea.
B
We
need
more.
The
benefits
of
dog
parks
are
measurable,
for
public
safety,
for
health,
for
socialization,
not
only
of
dogs
but
of
their
owners
as
well.
Again,
the
benefits
are
enormous
and
boston
is
behind
so
many
other
cities
in
establishing
these
off-leash
recreational
areas
and
safe
areas
for
dog,
for
both
dog
lovers
and
those
who
aren't
these
provide
real
services.
B
The
la
the
only
thing
I
would
say,
having
been
on
this
body
for
a
while
and
in
addition
to
our
approach
at
millennium
park,
there
was
also
a
wonderful
group
in
jamaica
plain
that,
several
years
ago,
we
identified
nary
and
actually
had
buy-in
from
the
state
to
allow
for
an
off
an
off-leash
area.
It
is
so
important
in
this
conversation
that
we
stay
united
and
stay
with
it,
and
I've
said
this
to
a
number
of
individuals
through
this
process.
B
Is
that
this
can't
just
be
a
hearing,
and
we
all
talk
to
each
other
and
agree
with
each
other
and
shake
hands
and
call
it
a
day.
The
work
has
to
continue
because
I've
seen
now
twice,
two
very
promising
dog
parks
end
up
being
scrapped
because
of
vociferous
opposition.
So
this
isn't
us
versus
them.
This
really
needs
to
be
upon
all
of
us
to
really
illustrate
the
benefits
of
dog
parks
in
staying
within,
staying
active
and
staying,
pushing
all
of
us
city
leaders,
state
leaders
as
well.
B
So
thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
and
look
forward
to
a
great
hearing.
A
Thank
you,
council,
o'malley
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
arroyo
for
bringing
this
forward.
I've
worked
with
the
city
of
boston
on
issues
impacting
our
our
pets,
especially
dogs,
as
it
relates
to
the
problems
we
were
having
several
years
ago
on
dogs
getting,
unfortunately
getting
electrocuted
on
some
of
our
sidewalks
in
the
city,
but
we
made
great
progress
on
that
issue.
Thanks
to
the
city
of
boston
officials,
I'm
also
a
dog
owner
my
family
and
I
are
dog
owners.
A
We
rescued
a
dog
from
south
huntington
avenue
at
the
site
there
and
our
dog
is
named
curly.
It's
a
little
dog
is
the
dog's
name
curly,
and
I
I
wanted
to
name
the
dog
after
james
michael
curley,
so
it's
molly
curly.
So
because
of
being
from
jamaica
plain,
I
felt
appropriate
to
name
the
dog
curly
anyway
at
this
time.
Let
me
let
me
introduce
commissioner
ryan
woods,
commissioner,
woods.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership,
and
would
you
like
to
give
an
opening
statement.
F
Yes,
thank
you
counselor
and
thank
you
counselors
for
your
support
in
this
important
endeavor.
So
boston
parks
and
recreation
welcomes
all
residents
to
enjoy
our
parks.
We
are
the
stewards
of
a
park
system
that
and
we
must
cater
to
a
wide
section
of
users.
F
F
There's
certainly
many
benefits
to
having
dog
recreation
spaces
in
our
parks.
It
one
gives
dogs
a
legal
area
to
go
off
leash.
It's
positive
activation
in
our
parks,
we've
seen
a
decline
in
negative
activity
in
certain
parks
with
the
addition
of
dog
owners.
F
F
So
with
that,
the
boston
parks
department
recognizes
the
need
to
provide
space
for
all
and,
as
such,
we're
working
to
have
a
dog
recreation
area
in
each
neighborhood.
It's
very
important
to
say
no
matter
who
owns
that
actual
property.
As
councillor
royal
brought
up,
we
actually
have
six
dog
parks
in
one
still
piloted
off
leash
jog
area
at
boston,
common
to
make
a
seventh,
and
there
are
quite
a
number
of
others
on
massport
land,
mass
d.o.t,
land,
dcr,
land
and
other
privately
owned
lots
throughout
the
city.
To
add
to
that
number.
F
So
it's
really
important
that
residents
can
one
try
to
find
a
parcel
of
land
and
work
with
the
property
owners
and
make
sure
that
you
look
into
the
proximity
of
neighbors
there.
Is
you
don't
want
to
have
a
dog
recreation
space
right
next
to
a
direct
to
butter
with
the
the
smells
that
comes
with
the
dog
park,
the
barking
etc?
You
don't
want
to
put
it
in
the
outfields
of
athletic
fields
because
it
causes
divots,
sprained,
ankles,
broken
legs,
etc.
F
F
We
look
for
a
demonstrated
community
support
so
trying
to
find
a
civic
group
friends
group
to
help
with
enforcement
and
programming
in
east
dog
recreation
space
and
just
for
reference.
The
latest
dog
park
that
was
constructed
on
a
city
of
boston
park
was
about
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
construct
as
part
of
the
project.
F
So
we
are
delighted
that
we
did
sunset
if
you
will
counselor
ross's
former
ordinance
that
went
in
place
from
2004-14
as
counselor
arroyo
mentioned,
there
was
equity
issues
that
old
ordinance
in
place
only
had
people
that
had
the
means
and
could
fundraise
had
the
ability
to
implement
dog
parks
in
city-owned
spaces.
F
That
was
sunset
in
2014,
and
now
we
hear
from
communities
in
active
community
processes
for
designs
if
they
like
a
dog
park
in
their
park,
and
we
try
to
find
an
area.
Each
area
that
has
a
dog
park
also
has
to
have
a
water
source.
It's
required
to
have
water
there
for
the
dogs,
if
they're
hot,
also
to
spray
down
and
wash
up
and
be
able
to
clean
up
each
area.
F
We
continue
to
look
forward
to
work
with
residents
to
find
these
spaces
in
our
parks,
and
you
know
whether
it's
on
state
land
city,
land
or
whoever
owns
it
to
try
to
find
and
put
in
a
dog
park
in
each
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
boston.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Woods
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
ask
alexis
trinsky
yup.
Thank
you.
Can
you
say
one
more
time
for
me:
it's
trezinski
brzezinski.
Thank
you
alexis.
Would
you
like
to
give
an
opening
statement
and
before
that
I
just
want
to
say
alexis.
Thank
you
for
your
important
work
that
you're
doing
as
well.
G
Thank
you
counselor.
Thank
you,
counselor.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Animal
care
and
control
is
in
favor
of
additional
dog
recreation
spaces.
We've
heard
from
many
pet
owners
that
there's
a
lack
of
dedicated
off-lease
spaces
that
to
allow
their
dogs
to
be
exercised.
G
Certainly
in
the
west
part
of
the
city,
west
roxbury
rossi,
jp
we've
heard
that
there
is
no
space
for
the
owners
to
exercise
their
dogs.
Animal
control
officers
are
better
positioned
to
have
a
conversation
with
dog
owners
who
exercise
their
dogs
in
violation
of
the
ordinance.
If
there
are
areas
where
they
can
direct
them,
we
think
that
the
creation
of
additional
recreation
spaces
are
helpful
for
both
proponents
and
persons,
who
are
not
necessarily
interested
in
that
they
don't
have
dogs,
because
there's
a
expected
park
usage.
G
If
you
have
those
dedicated
spaces,
the
division
feels
that
we
would
certainly
benefit
from
an
active
group
which
could
aid
in
on
self-monitoring,
similar
to
the
relationship
that
we
have
with
the
rough
in
the
north
end
deep
level
dog
park
again.
G
Chip
in
boston,
well-constructed,
well-constructed,
well-managed
dog
park
parks,
where
users
bring
socially
appropriate
dogs
with
adequate
supervision
and
appropriate
human-to-animal
ratios,
can
only
benefit
in
the
city
of
boston.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
alexis
thank
you
for
testifying
and
for
your
work
at
this
time.
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
questions
from
my
colleagues.
I
just
want
to
check
to
see
if
anyone
else
has
joined
us.
I
don't
believe
so
at
this
time.
Maybe
I'll
start.
First
then
I'll
I'll
ask
council
arroyo
to
go
after
to
commissioner
woods
or
to
alexis.
Can
you
talk
about
you
know
in
in?
I
should
mention.
I'm
also
proud
that
we
have
the.
A
As
commissioner
woods
mentioned,
the
dog
park
in
south
boston
off
of
1st
street.
I
know
the
bpda
in
the
parks
department
are
also
working
with
the
bay
village
neighborhood
association
potential
park
in
the
bay
village,
and
we
all
we
also
enjoy
going
over
to
peter's
park
in
the
south,
bend
as
well
so
to
alexis
or
to
orchard.
A
Commissioner,
woods,
if
you
designate
a
certain
in
parcel
in
a
public
park
for
for
use
as
a
dog
park,
what
is
the
space
that
you
would
need
to
designate
for
a
a
dog
park
in
a
certain
area
of
a
park,
and
does
that
mean
that
if
you
have
a
designated
spot
in
that
park
as
a
dog
park,
does
that
dog
then?
Are
they
able
to
use
the
other
part
of
the
park
as
well?
So
just
want
to
get
your
thoughts
on
that
question.
F
Sure
so,
if
you
look
at
some
dog
parks,
they're
all
different
sizes-
and
I
think
you'll
hear
from
dog
owners
saying
the
the
larger
the
space
the
better.
It
is
the
bigger
runway
for
dogs
to
exercise
and
to
run
outside
one
thing
that
we
look
at
in
certain
dog
parks.
F
If
you
look
at
peter's
park,
for
example,
there's
a
small
dog
area
versus
a
large
dog
area,
so
that
is
about
13
000
square
feet
in
that
dog
park,
and
it
is
sectioned
off
first
small,
dog
and
large
dogs,
but
on
that
same
street
on
washington
street,
you
have
blackstone
franklin
and
the
baseball
little
league
field
at
peters
that
are
also
used
as
dog
runs,
as
some
dog
owners
prefer
not
to
use
the
dog
recreation
space,
whether
their
dog
doesn't
behave
well
with
other
dogs,
or
you
know,
they
may
have
some
concerns
or
issues
that
they
have.
F
But
we
still
find
a
lot
that
it's
more
based
on
convenience
that
people
still
go
to
the
nearest
clean
space
near
their
home
to
exercise
their
pets.
Dogs
are
welcome
in
city
of
boston,
pet
parks,
on
leash
in
off
leash.
Obviously,
in
the
designated
dog
recreation
spaces,
which
we
hope
to
expand
throughout.
A
G
The
if
dogs
are
off
leash,
the
animal
control
officers
at
their
discretion
will
either
issue
a
verbal
warning
or
a
citation
of
first
offense
for
an
off
leash
dog
is
fifty
dollars.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you
alexis,
I
think.
That's.
The
most
important
part
is
the
educational
aspect
of
educating
everybody
about
dog
parks,
the
rules,
the
regulations
and
the
health
and
safety.
Again
I
love
dogs
and
I've
seen
firsthand
the
impact
dogs
have
especially
service
dogs
in
helping
our
disabled
veterans,
which
is
a
very
important
subject
for
me
as
a
disabled
veteran,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
the
care,
also
in
the
training
that
these
dogs
have
and
they've
been
the
comfort
and
the
the
comfort
they
provide
with
disabled
veterans
and
persons
with
disabilities
as
well.
A
C
Thank
you
so
much,
and
my
questions
at
this
moment
are
mostly
for
commissioner
woods
so
first
off.
Thank
you
for
that
answer.
C
As
somebody
who
is
currently
the
city
councilor
for
district
five
and
that's
advocating
for
dog
parks
in
the
neighborhood,
I
have
pretty
basic
questions
that
hopefully
we
can
get
through,
which
is
the
first.
Is
it?
C
Can
you
just
detail
for
me,
as
the
city
of
boston
is
doing
dog
parks
right,
you
kind
of
listed
out
what
what
wouldn't
qualify
as
a
space
right,
these
certain
places
that
are
not
correctly
environmentally
or
geographically
predisposed
for
this,
but
if
we
were
to
create
a
dog
park,
if
I
said
to
commissioner
woods,
I
would
like
a
dog
park
in
high
park.
C
What
steps
would
you
need
to
take
to
make
that
happen
from
from
beginning
to
the
final
one,
which
is,
I
guess,
a
budgeting
one,
but
from
the
beginning
standpoint
of
that,
what
steps
would
you
need
to
say
this
is
a
site.
We
approve
this
site.
We
get
to
get
us
all
the
way
from
initial
request
to
final
destination,
which
is
an
open
dog
park.
F
Sure
so
it
would
start
by
identifying
some
land
in
the
park
and
who
the
land
owner
is.
Is
it
a
dcr
land
because,
I
believe,
specifically
in
hyde
park,
there
was
a
big
push
for
dcr
land
spot
to
have
one
one
of
the
challenges
in
hyde
park
for
us.
Is
we
only
own
three
properties?
F
The
majority
of
all
the
parks
and
hype
are
owned
by
the
state,
so
we
only
have
amitucci
ayakono
george
ray
golf
course
and
then
ross
and
for
ross
we
had
a
lot
of
opposition
at
the
community
meetings
asking
not
from
the
abutters
asking
not
to
put
one
in
that
neighborhood
car.
So
the
leadership
at
the
time
decided
to
go
along
with
the
abutters
in
the
community
for
that
one
design,
but
we
always
try
to
find
an
area
and
I'm
just
giving
a
prime
example
from
roslindale
in
your
district.
F
A
resident
has
reached
out
to
us
found
a
prime
location
behind
the
flaherty
pool
at
it's.
Is
it
frank's,
it's
healey
healey
field
in
roslindale
and
we're
working
with
the
abutters,
which
is
the
housing
authority,
housing
development
behind
it
to
make
sure
they're
fully
supportive
since
they're
the
closest
of
butters?
F
After
that,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
community
process
with
meetings
have
a
discussion
and
from
that
we're
going
to
put
a
suggestion
into
the
budget
if
it
gets
funded
to
add
a
dog
park
behind
the
community
pool
in
roslindale.
So
it's
really
just
to
get
the
community
support
and
make
sure
we
have
a
group
behind
it
because
it
is
self-enforced
by
the
dog
owners,
the
other
ones,
activating
the
space.
Some
of
them
have
halloween
parties
where
they
decorate
their
dog.
F
It
really
is
a
sense
of
community,
so
we'd
love
to
see
it
added.
We
just
like
to
have
that
group
behind
it
that
we,
if
there's
any
issues,
they
can
call
us,
and
we
have
that
relationship
with
them
and,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
about
250
000
on
average
to
bring
the
water
put
up.
The
fences
have
the
pea
stone
to
make
your
dog
park
come
to
fruition,
funding
wise.
C
I
appreciate
that
answer
and
then
just
to
get
back
to
that
other
one,
that
the
point
you
raised,
which
is
hyde
park
and
the
city's
lack
of
sort
of
land
that
they
own
here
I
think,
70
percent
of
high
park
open
land
is
actually
owned
by
tcr.
C
I
was
actually
a
supporter
of
that
dog
park
in
the
thompson
area.
It
was
very
close
to
my
home.
It's
a
perfect
space
for
something
like
that.
Here's
a
question
I
have
for
you
just
on
some
of
the
pushback
that
I
know
we
I've
received
when
I've
spoken
to
the
state
about
this.
C
F
So
right
now
the
maintenance
and
upkeep
of
dog
parks
is
done
by
the
dog
groups.
It's
not
done
by
city
of
boston
and
police.
So,
right
now
we
don't
have
that
model
anywhere
in
place.
Dog
parks
are
maintained,
enforced
programmed
by
the
community
groups
that
rally
around
them,
our
our
maintenance,
crews
and
more
do
the
mowing
of
the
lawns,
the
emptying
of
the
trash
barrel.
Getting
you
know
whether
it's
fields
ready
break
fixing
broken
equipment,
but
right
now
we
don't
have
any
positions
designated
for
dog
parks.
C
F
So
three
of
them
are
very
new
so
of
the
four
that
we
had
in
place
before
that
there
hasn't
been
many
issues
and
if
there
was
an
issue,
we
have
a
direct
contact
with
a
group.
That's
able
to
help
rectify
the
situation.
I
should
mention,
there's
also
foundations
that
some
of
these
community
groups
apply
to.
So
only
two
communities
have
actually
raised
money
to
build
their
own
dog
park.
F
That's
peter's
and
then
ronin
park
in
meeting
house
hill
area
of
dorchester
were
the
only
two
that
self-raised
money
and
for
ronan
park.
They
received
some
money
from
the
stanton
foundation
that
helped
fund
that
effort,
but
they
they
have
signage
up
again.
They
program
their
own.
It's
more
scoop,
the
type
of
language
and
encouraging
dog
owners
to
pick
up
after
their
dogs.
We
have
not
seen
a
large
project.
I
mean
a
large
problem
with
the
the
four
that
we
had
in
place
for
years.
C
And
so
I
guess
for
in
terms
of
state
and
city
partnership,
because
there
are
several,
for
instance,
I
believe
the
east
first
street,
one
is
run
by
massport,
correct,
correct,
yeah,
and
so
there's
there's
a
few
that
are
run
by
state
agencies.
C
Would
there
be
any
issue
if
the
state
were
willing
to
open
up
a
space
in
hyde
park
on
some
of
that
public
land
that
they
own?
Would
there
be
any
legal
complication
or
any
legal
reason
for
which
the
city
could
not
partner
with
the
state
to
bring
something
to
bear
in
any
of
those
spaces?.
F
F
Just
have
to
I
don't
know
about
legal
ramifications:
I'd
have
to
check
with
our
legal
department
on.
We
don't
have
that
model
in
place,
but
typically
right
now,
dcr
maintains
all
dcr
property.
Video
boston
maintains
their
own,
so
I
will
happy
to
run
that
through
our
law
department,
if
there's
any
issues.
C
And
then,
as
a
last
question
for
this
round,
so
that
my
other
colleagues
can
can
kind
of
get
in
from
the
standpoint
of
making
more
dog
parks
available
within
city
neighborhoods
right
now,
there's
more
city
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
them
that
do
the
the
question
I
have
is
in
the
next
fiscal
year
this
year
that
we're
working
on
this
budget
that
we're
working
on
what
plans
do
we
actually
have
in
place?
C
F
So
in
this
budget
we're
in
design
for
some
and
in
those
design
meetings,
it
may
come
up
that
somebody
wants
a
dog
recreation
space
that
may
mean
like
taking
out
a
soccer
field
or
a
baseball
field
in
order
to
put
this
in
in
certain
parks,
as
our
parks
are
pretty
much
developed,
but
the
only
one
that
is
in
process
right
now
is
smithfield
phase
two
in
austin
close
to
harvard
university,
that
is
one
that
is
funded,
also
got
some
money,
I
believe
from
the
neighborhood
improvement
fund
from
harvard
to
help
fund
that
effort.
F
C
F
F
I
I
don't
honestly,
don't
want
to
skip
any
off
the
list.
So
I'm
happy
to
provide
you
a
full
game.
C
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
royal
next
up
is
counselor
bach,
but
before
I
asked
council
block
to
ask
her
questions,
I
wanted
to
make
a
major
policy
announcement
that
my
son
reminded
me.
The
dog's
name
is
marley
curly,
not
kurt
molly,
so
I
wanted
to
set
the
record
straight.
It's
actually
molly
curly,
so
it
was
an
important
announcement
I
had
to
make
during
this
time
so
counselor
block
you're
next.
D
Wouldn't
want
to
stand
in
the
way
of
that
counselor
flynn
ryan.
Could
you
speak
to
specifically
the
boston
common
dog
park?
Master
plan
plan
is
that
is
the
idea
that
that
also
would
be
maintained
by
local
friends
groups,
or
would
it
be
built
into
the
the
sort
of
maintenance
work
that
we
do
at
the
commons.
F
No,
we
would
still
look
to
have
the
same
model
that
we
have
across
the
city,
so
be
asking
those
common
k-9
group
to
be
involved
with
enforcement
and
programming.
F
I
know
the
friends
of
the
public
garden
are
in
favor
of
having
a
designated
off-leash
area,
because
they
have
had
many
problems
with
the
pilot
off-leash
program
with
some
dogs,
obviously
just
not
doing
well
on
voice
control.
You
know
or
running
after
certain
people,
and
so,
if
you,
I
think,
if
you
talk
to
liz
visa
she'd
also
say
how
important
it
is
that
that
made
it
into
the
plan.
D
And
and
one
thing
I've
heard
a
lot
is
you
know,
sort
of
the
need
for
somewhat
different
spaces
for
like
large
and
small
dogs
and
obviously
longer
runs
for
large
dogs,
and
I'm
curious
how
much
as
a
design
principle.
Obviously
it
depends
on
the
space
that
you've
got
available,
but
like
how
much
that's
risen
to
the
fore
when
the
city
works
on
these
things.
F
So
I
think
the
largest
one
is
in
peter's
with
the
13
000
square
feet,
it's
more
based
on
when
you
find
an
area
that
doesn't
have
slow,
isn't
sloped
and
meets
all
the
criteria.
That's
not
close
to
a
butters
windows,
et
cetera
how
much
space
you're
able
to
work
with.
So
we
can
curtail
it
to
be
as
small
as
the
one
that
you
mentioned
in
the
back
bay,
or
I
mean
in
bay,
village
or
as
large
as
ones.
You
know
as
peter's
park.
F
It's
just
you're
taking
out
that
large
portion
of
you
know
public
park
land
that
may
have
been
grass
and
replacing
with
pea,
stone
and
fencing,
and
so,
if
there's
support
for
that,
we
can
make
it
larger.
We
are
finding,
for
example,
garvey
park
in
dorchester
just
was
renovated:
5.1
million
dollar
renovation.
F
The
dog
park
is
on
the
dcr
owned
portion
of
the
park,
and
in
that
area
there
it's
we
still
have
people
using
the
artificial
turf
because
they
still
prefer
not
to
put
their
dog
in
the
dog
recreation
space
at
the
same
park.
They'd
rather
have
the
full
football
field
size
for
their
dog
to
run
on.
F
D
And
then,
in
terms
of
like
in
terms
of
dog
waste,
receptacles
like
and
there's
a
larger
conversation
with
public
works
around,
like
you
know
about
whether
that's
something
that
we
should
have
around
neighborhoods,
specifically
within
your
brief
like
when
we
have
a
dog
park,
do
we
is
it
a
piece
of
that
that
we
want
like
a
separate
receptacle
for
dog
waste,
or
are
we
fine
with
just
having
like
trash
that
it
goes
in
or
how
does
the
city
think
about
that
that
important,
somewhat
unappealing
aspect
of
all
of
it.
F
It
is
all
put
in
the
in
the
same
trash
pill,
but
there
are
designated
trash
barrels
put
inside
the
the
fencing
of
the
dog
recreation
space
or
right
outside.
Usually
it's
a
whole
station.
If
you
will,
with
the
pool
that
comes
with
the
doggy
baggies,
somebody
forgot
them
as
well,
and
we
do
have
those
in
regular
parks
that
don't
have
dog
recreation
spaces,
because
friends,
groups
or
communities
have
requested
dog
dispensers
and
we
are
happy
to
provide
them,
especially
if
there's
a
neighbor.
That's
close
by
that.
F
If
it
runs
out
we're
happy
to
leave
refill
bags
if
they
get
to
it
quicker
than
us,
or
we
can
refill
it
through
three
on
one.
But
there
are
you
know:
barrels
specified
that
are
assigned
right
to
the
dog
recreation
spaces,
so
owners
have
no
excuse,
then,
to
you
know,
dispose
the
waste
right
there
at
the
actual
dog
space.
D
Got
it
yeah
no
and
I
have
to
yeah.
I
have
to
ask
public
works
for
some
some
solutions
on
that
front
in
the
neighborhood,
but
that's
a
separate
issue.
I
I
just
wanted
to
second
council
arroyo's
point.
D
I
I
do
think
that
so
in
in
my
district
there's
a
charles
gates
sort
of
the
area
where
the
the
well
it's
where
the
muddy
river
meets
the
charles
and
it
it
should
be
where
the
jewel
of
the
emerald
necklace,
the
fence,
meet
the
meets
the
esplanade
and,
as
you
know,
got
sort
of
interrupted
by
our
highway
projects,
and
we've
been
working
with
parks
and
lots
of
other
folks
of
the
state
to
sort
of
think
about
how
to
reimagine
that
there
is
a
vision
there
for
a
dog
park
as
a
piece
of
what
might
go,
especially
because
there's
a
section
that
there's
a
section
that
you
know
it's
kind
of
under
a
piece
of
the
highway
ramp.
D
D
I
think
that
project
is
at
the
intersection
of
a
bunch
of
jurisdictions
and
there's
no
way
that
we
will
there's
no
way
we'll
get
it
to
happen
without
major
state
participation
in
leadership
like
it's,
not
something
the
city
can
shoulder
because
the
jurisdictions,
but
at
the
same
time
I
can't
imagine
us
being
successful
without
there
being
a
partnership
with
the
city,
so
just
really
want
to
underscore.
I
feel
like
we
in
solving
in
solving
this
problem
for
our
constituents
like
people,
don't
people
don't
know
or
necessarily
care,
whether
it's
ours
or
the
states.
D
They
just
want
the
you
know
amenity
opportunity.
So
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
to
continue
working
with
you
on
that.
Mr
chairman,
I
think
those
are
my
main
questions
and
comments
for
now.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
It's
a
little
known
fact
that
mayor
curley
had
a
dog
named
flynn,
so
this
is
all
coming
full
circle
now
I
will
be
brief
because
I
want
to
hear
from
our
advocates-
and
I
want
chris
to
show
us
that
beautiful
lab
that
was
on
his
lap
earlier.
I
hope
he
or
she
will
be
testifying
as
well,
but
obviously
commission.
B
A
Matt,
I
think,
you're
I
think
you're
frozen
there
on
the
screen.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
just
waiting
for
a
minute
for
counselor
o'malley
before
we
get
a
response
from
the
commissioner,
but
then
we'll
go
to
the
invited
guests
as
well,
and
we're
also
available
to
take
public
testimony
and
that's
also
an
important
part
of
the
hearings
as
well
public
testimony
in
the
educational
aspect
of
it.
So
we
will
get
to
public
testimony
if
you
could,
if
you
could
just
hold
on
for
us,
we
will
get
to
you.
I
think
council
o'malley
is
back
on
now.
A
C
Just
I
had
one
follow-up
question
for
commissioner
woods:
he
mentioned
that
where
there
have
been
dog
parts,
there
have
been
a
noted
difference
in
the
amount
of
say,
complaints
about
dog
waste
on
sidewalks
and
things
like
that.
Are
there
other
benefits
to
the
community?
Similar?
To
that
that,
I
would
call
you
know,
adjacent
benefits
that
come
with
having
designated
places
for
dogs
to
sort
of
play
and
congregate.
C
F
Sure
I
can
just
read
back
some
of
the
benefits
I
mentioned
one
besides
giving
a
legal
area
having
positive
activation
in
parks
eliminates
negative
activity,
so,
for
example,
the
one
at
garvey
park
used
to
be
an
area
that
was
known
for
drug
activity
and
opioid
usage,
and
now
on
that
dcr
land
they
created
a
dog
park.
So
you
don't
see
that
negative
activity
anymore
and
there's
people
there
from
six
in
the
morning
till
eleven
o'clock
at
night
utilizing
these
parks
for
positive
activity
once
dog
walkers
are
in
parks.
F
They
serve
as
the
eyes
and
ears.
So,
while
they're
there,
they
can
see
whether
somebody's
graffiti
up
there's
broken
glass
and
they're.
Utilizing
the
311
app
to
report
other
issues
where
if
there
was
not
a
dog
space
in
that
park,
they
may
not
be
there
at
the
time
to
report
those
emergencies
in
the
parks.
F
So
we
see
a
decline
in
negative
activity
and
the
benefit
of
getting
to
reach
out
to
other
neighbors
when
dog
owners
are
together
in
the
space
that
sense
of
community
that
they
feel
when
they're
together.
I
have
something
common
shared
ideas
and
coming
up
with
programming.
So
these
groups
are
forming
together
and
creating
positive
programming
in
parks
too,
whether
it
be
a
dog
parade-
and
I
know
the
group
itself
and
has
worked
with
some
private
companies
where
they've
had
dog
biscuit
days
and
handouts
to
everybody.
F
So
you
see
a
lot
of
positive
activity
in
the
in
the
community.
Spirits
of
people.
C
Thank
you
so
much,
commissioner
woods
for
that
that
that
to
me
sounds
like
a
lot
of
bang
for
buck
when
we're
talking
about
what
these
spaces
can
give
neighborhoods.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
see
council
o'malley
is
back.
A
B
Thank
you
counselor
flynn.
How
does
the
sound
how's,
the
visual
or
anything
good,
perfect
good,
and
in
that
time
chris
has
brought
another
dog
before
him,
so
I
will
be
mercifully
brief
and
just
the
best
and
I
was
experienced
best
enforcement
against
people
not
picking
up
after
their
dogs
are
other
dog
owners.
I've
seen
it
firsthand.
It
really
is
it's
a
way
to
sort
of
enforce
it
make
sure
it's
done
well,
so,
chris
it
was
probably
a
decade
or
so
ago,
when
mike
ross
put
forth.
B
What
we
typically
rely
on
is
the
blueprint
for
establishing
dog
parks,
which
creates,
of
course,
having
a
and
I
friends,
claudia's
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
It's
a
very
high
bar,
it's
it's
a
higher
bar
than
we
obviously
ask
for
any
other
sort
of
outdoor
recreational
space,
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
make
that
easier.
B
But
until
we
get
to
the
point
that
I
think
many
of
us
agree,
which
is
the
importance
and
efficacy
of
having
a
off
leash
dog
park
in
every
neighborhood,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
process
would
be?
Looking
like
to
establish
city
sanctioned
off-leash
hours
in
parks,
we're
seeing
it
happen
organically
and
obviously
it
can
sometimes
lead
to
issues
between
dog
owners
and
non-dog
owners.
B
But
I
wonder
if
an
immediate
step,
something
that
we
could
be
looking
at
now-
and
I
would
I
would
I
haven't-
asked
kara
this
but
she's
a
dear
friend
constituent.
I
would
venture
a
guess
that
the
mspca
has
seen
an
increase
in
adoptions
this
year
with
more
and
more
people
being
from
home.
So
we
are
seeing
the
number
of
dog
owners
in
the
city
rise
considerably
and
pet
owners.
But
can
you
just
briefly
talk
ryan
about
how
we're
able
to
get
maybe
some
designated
off-leash
hours
and
existing.
F
Parts,
I
think
you
froze
again
counselor,
but
I
I
heard
the
gist
of
the
question,
so
I
think
I
can
respond
yes,
so
we
are
willing
to
do
that.
We
have
done
it
in
the
with
the
friends
of
the
public
garden
and
the
common
canines
groups.
There
is
off-leash
hours.
We
have
put
that
in
place.
That's
been
in
place
for
almost
10
years.
I
know
it
has
not
worked.
F
You
know
it's
been
successful
to
a
degree,
but
there
have
been
problems
with
it.
So
that's
why
the
friends
are
pushing
for
that
designated
space,
but
to
your
point,
until
we
can
get
to
those
designated
spaces,
I
think
the
city
is,
or
the
parks
department
at
least
is
willing
to
consider
off-leash
hours,
especially
at
a
place
like
millennium
or
an
area
where
that
activity
happens.
I
think
we'd
start
with
a
community
briefing
to
find
out
what
hours
that
could
work
for
it.
F
B
Great
thank
you
for
that,
and
certainly
company
is
among
the
voices
that
is
looking.
I
particularly
in
west
rock
spring
millennium
would
be
won
some
number
of
places
in
jp
as
a
temporary
measure
and
then
looking
forward
to
supporting
this
going
forward.
That's
all
for
now,
mr
chair.
I
apologize
for
my
unstable
internet
here
at
city
hall,
but
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
watch
and
participate.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilor
o'malley.
I
I
would
like
to
give
my
colleague
counselor
of
counselor
flaherty
a
brief
opportunity
to
to
weigh
in
he
just
joined
this
council
of
clarity.
H
H
So
I
my
I've,
been
listening
intently
I've
been
in
the
waiting
room
trying
to
get
on
through
some
technical
difficulties,
so
I'm
going
to
defer
my
questions.
Some
of
some
of
my
questions
were
already
asked
answered
by
our
colleagues
I'd
love
to
give
the
advocates
an
opportunity
to
be
heard
here
and
I'll
stay
on
and
listen
to
the
testimony.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
council
flaherty
appreciate
it
appreciate
your
leadership
too,
on
support
of
dog
parks
across
the
city.
At
this
time
we
do
have
some
community
advocates
as
part
of
this
piano.
Cara
holmquist,
who
counselor
o'malley
already
mentioned,
is
the
director
of
advocacy
for
the
massachusetts
society
for
the
prevention
of
cruelty
to
animals.
A
A
I'm
going
to
give
both
of
you
the
opportunity
to
provide
an
opening
statement
if
there's
anyone
else
as
part
of
this
panel.
Just
let
me
know,
but
I
do
have
kara
in
claudia.
So
at
this
time
cara
would
you
like
to
provide
an
opening
statement.
I
Sure,
thank
you.
Councillor
flynn,
councillor
arroyo,
councillor
bach,
councillor,
flaherty
and
city
officials
here
to
talk
about
this
issue.
We
have
worked
on
this.
I
have
worked
on
this
for
many
years.
I
was
involved
with
the
2004
ordinance
that
that
was
mentioned,
and
I
think
just
overall,
it's
really
nice
to
be
on
this
call
would
rather
be
in
person,
but
it's
nice
to
just.
I
I
feel
that
there's
a
greater
it's
I
feel
like
there's
just
more
positivity
than
there
was
back
then,
and
it's
really
nice
to
see
you
know
all
of
this
support
and
that
it's
you
know
not
just
you
know,
should
we
do
this,
but
it's
more
now
just
figuring
out.
You
know
the
details
like
where
and
and
how
and
working
with
the
different
areas
that
may
that
might
be
available.
You
know
in
2004
we
were
talking
about.
I
You
know
how
other
cities
of
our
size
were
playing
ahead,
and
you
know
it's
really
nice
to
see
boston
is,
is
catching
up
and
appreciate
that
I
was
a
resident
of
district
5
for
many
years
and
so
worked
with
claudia
a
bit
on
the
thompson
property
and
tried
to
get
that
going
and
have
been
as
as
counselor
o'malley
mentioned,
involved
with
those
meetings
that
he
started
way
back
when
it
seems
so
we're
we're
very
happy
to
help
help
organize.
We
have
a
behavior
team.
We
have
folks
that
can
help
with
education.
I
As
as
alexis
mentioned,
you
know
it's
important,
that
these
are
socially
acceptable
animals
and
that
people
are
responsible
and
it
all
works
well,
which
we've
seen
is,
is
completely
possible
and
we're
happy
to
help
sort
of
with
that
implementation.
I
And,
if
there's
anything
that
that
we
can
do
we're
around
and
we
have
been
very
busy
as
council.
O'malley
is
correct
as
usual,
and
we
have
been
very
busy
with
people
adopting
animals,
and
the
veterinary
side,
too,
has
been
extremely
busy
everywhere,
just
huge
demand
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
people
can
get
in.
But
it's
it's,
this
period
has
been,
people
are
working
really
hard
with
new
animals
and
keeping
the
veterinary
care
going.
I
So
so
thank
you
again
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
happy
to
help
after
this
call.
A
Thank
you
cara.
Thank
you
for
your
important
work.
Next
up,
I'd
like
to
ask
claudia
if
she'd
like
to
provide
an
opening
statement
as
well.
J
I
thank
you
so
much
for
inviting
me
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
doug
park
association.
We
have
been
basically
dormant
the
last
three
years,
but
we
as
matt
said
back
in
2011.
He
called
the
first
meeting
and,
from
that
point
on,
there's
been
a
slew
of
people
with
a
core
group
of
us.
Who've
worked
on
it
from
2011
until
2017.,
originally
starting
with
talk
about
millennium
park,
but
for
various
reasons
that
wasn't
feasible
at
that
point.
J
In
terms
of
building
a
dog
park,
we
found
and
identified
the
stony
brook
reservation
and
the
thompson
center,
which
had
been
abandoned
closed
because
of
the
1990
disabilities
act.
That
said,
you
could
no
longer
have
separate
facilities
for
children
with
disabilities
to
nine
acres
fenced
in.
Although
a
lot
of
the
fence
is
broken,
it
is
filled
with
graffiti.
J
We
did
we.
The
amount
of
work
we
did
is
rather
extraordinary.
Everything
from
we
formed
an
official
non-profit
status.
To
do
this
work
and
created
groups,
we
recruited
people.
We
began
writing
a
proposal
for
the
thompson
center
to
restore
it
as
use
as
a
dog
park,
but
a
multi-use
park
that
would
have
other
things
for
for
different
uses,
but
also
that
it
would
be
if
we
wanted
to
put
in
spaces
for
those
who
had
service
dogs,
for
example.
J
So
they
would
have
a
place
to
take
their
dogs
to
exercise
the
fact
that
it
was
built
for
those
with
disabilities
made
it
accessible
for
people
even
not
veterans,
but
people
who
might
have
dogs
who
are
in
wheelchairs.
J
We
would
have
a
small
park
a
park
for
small
dogs
apart
for
long
large
dogs,
but
also
walking
trails.
Many
people,
myself
included,
want
to
go
someplace
where
we
can
walk
or
exercise
with
our
dogs,
not
stand
and
watch
our
dogs
play.
So
I
think
the
need
for
multiple
kinds
of
parks
is
important
to
consider,
which
is
why
off
leash
areas
is
really
important
and
having
some
again
the
benefits
of
dog
ownership.
Partially,
it's
huge
stress
reducer.
For
for
people,
we
wrote
the
proposal.
J
We
entered
into
an
mou
with
the
department
of
conservation
and
recreation
we
raised
ten
thousand
dollars
and
which
was
matched
by
the
department
with
twenty
thousand
to
hire
a
feasibility
team
and
then
a
design
team.
Meanwhile,
we
had
online
petitions,
we
did
door
knocking
in
the
neighborhoods
talking
people
who
said
please
do
something
there.
J
We
had
a
very
robust
plan
that
we
wrote
up
and
we
worked
on
and
again
we
worked
with
members
of
hyde
park,
who
were
very
there's
a
small
but
vociferous
group
that
were
opposed
to
this,
and
but
we
worked
with
them,
we
were
going
to
put
in
things
that
would
address
their
needs
as
well
and
we
were
blocked.
Basically,
the
state
rep
at
that
time,
for
some
reason
was
not
in
support.
J
I
think
there
was
a
group
of
people
who
said
they
didn't
want
it
and
he
went
with
them,
but
he
never
met
with
us.
He
never
spoke
to
us.
He
did
not
respond
to
the
letters
calls
from
his
own
constituents
and
at
the
11th
hour
when
dcr
was
supposed
to
unveil
the
two
design
plans
for
the
community
to
vote
on,
they
were
informed
at
the
11th
hour
that
there
was
a
law,
the
from
1967
chapter
750
that
required
the
thompson
center
be
used
only
for
the
care
and
recreation
of
disabled
children.
J
However,
that's
no
longer
a
legal
use,
but
it
put
the
whole
project
the
calabash
on
it.
So
it
was
just
the
rug
was
pulled
out
from
under
everyone
who
spent
you
know
countless
hours.
An
alternative
site
was
offered,
but
nothing
ever
came
of
that
the
dog
park
association.
Often
we
did
cleanups
at
millennium
park
every
year
going
around
picking
up.
You
know
people
say
dog
poop,
but
all
the
other
things
that
accumulate
and
yeah.
We
were
very
much.
J
Those
of
us
who
walk
at
millennium
are
very
much
sometimes
called
the
poop
police,
because
we're
continually
either
offering
people
bags
or
reminding
people
to
to
pick
them
up
and
again,
there
was
a
really
dedicated
group
and
I
will
say,
with
the
pandemic,
there
is
a
huge
group
of
what
we're
calling
pandemic
puppies
everywhere.
J
I
go
at
every
park,
you
see
them,
so
you
have
a
lot
of
new
dog
owners
who
need
to
be
educated,
help
with
dog
training,
and,
I
would
say,
dog
owners
are
constituents
constituency
whose
needs
have
not
been
met
by
the
city.
There's.
There
are
multiple
parks,
multiple
acres
of
parks
for
every
other
activity,
use
constituents
that
that
you
would
possibly
hope
for
and
so
in
terms
of
equity
and
and
fairness
and
all
the
other
reasons
people
have
mentioned
until
we
do
provide
places
for
dog
owners
to
go.
J
They're
continue
to
be
off
leash
in
areas
that
people
don't
want
them
to
be
it's
just
how
human
beings
operate
and
that's
the
nature
of
it,
and
so
that's
a
really
brief
overview
of
a
lot
of
effort
and
time
and
various
strategies
we
put
into
effect.
But
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
and
all
questions.
J
You
know
we
did
a
lot
of
research
about
dog
park
design
across
the
country
and
what
makes
for
good
dog
parks
what
makes
for
bad
dog
parks,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
really
really
need
this
and
support
it.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
claudia
thank
you,
kara
and
just
want
to
before.
I
open
it
up
to
my
colleagues
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
your
leadership,
but
also
for
the
important
work
of
of
making
sure
that
our
parks
and
open
spaces
are
inclusive,
especially
for
persons
including
persons
with
disabilities
as
well
who
rely
on
on
dogs,
service
dogs.
A
C
First
and
foremost,
thank
you
both
so
much
for
being
here.
I
know
one
of
you
is
actually
using
your
vacation
to
be
here.
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
that,
and
in
terms
of
my
questions
you
can
hear
mine.
My
dogs
are
are
right
now,
making
themselves
known
I'm
lucky
and
blessed
that
I
have
sort
of
a
front
area.
That's
that's
fenced
in
so
they
can
run
around
and
play
in
with
each
other,
but
most
of
the
city
I
would
assume,
does
not
actually
have
that.
C
In
fact,
one
of
the
things
that
is
deeply
concerning
to
me
is,
as
we
continue
to
build
and
develop
in
the
city
of
boston.
What
we're
really
building
and
developing
is
condominiums
apartment
buildings,
things
of
that
nature,
where
we
really
don't
have
yards
or
open
space,
and
so
as
we
bring
more
density
to
the
city
of
boston
and
as
everybody's
mentioned,
you
know
with
pandemic
puppies
on
the
rise,
but
I
think
homeowner
pet
ownership
has
always
been
a
relatively
high
thing.
C
I
remember
almost
all
of
my
friends
having
pets
when
I
was
growing
up
whether
they
say
license
them
with
the
city
or
not,
and
so
the
the
number
of
pets
I
think
in
the
city
have
always
been
high.
C
I
think
we're
certainly
on
a
high
point
in
terms
of
what's
happened
with
the
pandemic
and
folks
adopting
more
animals,
which
I
think
is
a
very
positive
thing,
but
I
do
worry
about
sort
of
the
lack
of
natural
space
for
them
to
play,
and
so
that's
a
major
reason
for
why
I'm
doing
this
work,
but
for
kara
I
have
two
questions
and
I'm
going
to
ask
them
now
and
then
you
can
answer
them
and
then
that's
it
for
kara.
C
One
of
my
first
questions
really
is:
what
are
the
benefits
to
the
animals
in
terms
of
having
a
legitimate
space
where
they
can
socialize
play
be
healthy,
and
I'm
thinking
about
that?
Oh
from
early
years?
Where
we're
you
know
pandemic
puppies,
but
also
our
senior
dogs,
our
dogs,
who
have
several
years
in
what
are
the
benefits
to
them?
Health-Wise
socially?
How
does
it?
How
does
it
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
them?
C
Because
I
do
think
as
a
city,
we
need
to
be
looking
at
not
just
the
quality
of
life
of
residents,
but
also
also
the
quality
of
life
of
the
the
animals
that
call
boston
home
and,
I
think,
taking
care
of
the
quality
of
life
for
those
animals
is
taking
care
of
the
quality
of
life
of
their
their
humans.
And
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
really
important
thing
for
us
to
do
so.
If
you
could
just
list
the
reasons
why
that's
crucial
in
terms
of
these
spaces
for
dogs
and
then
for
claudia.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
fight.
I
actually
lived
three
or
four
streets
down,
and
I
was
in
full
support
of
that.
C
I
was
off
of
allen
street,
which
is
actually
right
there
and
I
remember
the
the
efforts
that
you
put
in
and
others
put
in
for
the
dog
park,
and
it
was
unfortunate
frankly,
I
have
other
choice,
words
for
it,
but
it
was
unfortunate
that
it
did
not
happen,
and
so
I
I
think
from
the
standpoint
of
your
experience
with
that,
because
I'm
aware
of
just
how
difficult
that
was-
and
it
did
feel
like
a
handful
of
folks
stopped
thousands
of
people.
C
C
We
know
that
commissioner,
woods
brought
up
finding
locations
and
things
like
that
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
battle,
but
I
think
there's
also
other
things
that
probably
you've
learned
along
the
way
where,
if
the
city
were
able
to
make
these
things
more
accessible,
whatever
they
may
be,
whether
it's
work
forms
or
who
to
contact
or
what
that
is.
It
would
make
this
process
better
and
I
would
be
really
interested
in
just
hearing
from
you
what
those
things
might
be
and
then
then
I'm
done,
and
so
thank
you
both
for
that.
I
Thank
you
counselor,
and
it's
it's.
I
don't
think.
We've
met
in
person,
but
it's
nice
to
see
that
the
dog,
the
dog
gene,
runs
in
your
family,
known
your
brother
for
a
while
and
his
dogs.
So,
yes-
and
I
will
submit
written
testimony
also-
and
I
will
include
some
additional
information
from
our
veterinary
staff
about
sort
of
all
of
the
the
benefits
I
mean.
I
I
think
one
of
the
benefits
that
we
see
the
most
you
know
is
that
dogs
get
their
exercise
in
a
different
way
that
they
can't
necessarily
get
on
on
leash
and
that
they
socialize
with
with
other
dogs
and
develop
skills.
Obviously
it's
important
that
that
they
are
okay
in
that
type
of
setting.
It
can
be
stressful
for
some
dogs,
so
having
people
understand
their
dogs
and
that
they
will
work
well
in
that
type
of
area,
and
I
think
you
know
when
it's
possible
having
the
large
and
small
dog.
I
Separate
areas
is
important
to
try
to
put
the
smaller
dogs
so
that
they're
not
in
a
position
where
they're,
fearful
of
the
larger
dogs,
but
the
socialization
is
certainly
important
and
the
health
benefits.
The
exercise
is
important
and
obviously
those
things
are
good
for
us
too,
when
we
have
good
dogs
or
tired
dogs
and
the
the
it's
hard
to
separate
the
benefits
stock
to
the
dogs.
I
You
know
entirely
from
the
community
benefits
that
we
all
get
from
talking
to
other
people
in
the
dog
park
and
I
think
we,
those
of
us
who
have
gone
to
dog
parks,
you
know,
meet
some
of
our
neighbors
and
sometimes
our
closest
friends,
and
we
don't
know
each
other's
names,
maybe
sometimes
but
the
dogs,
it's
really
a
great
sense
of
community,
but
I
think
the
the
benefit
for
exercise
and
then
socialization
for
the
dogs
are
the
main
points,
but
I'll
I'll
definitely
provide
some
more
detail
from
our
veterinarians
and
our
behaviorists,
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
something
that
I
think
about
a
lot
when
people
talk
about
dog
parks
that
you
mentioned
is
just
that.
I
You
know
in
our
more
urban
areas
that
we
just
having
a
fenced-in
yard
and
I
was
fortunate
to
have
a
small
one
on
the
corner
of
cornell
and
walworth,
but
I
think
you're
right,
not
many
people,
you
know
have
that
and
with
the
development.
I
think
it's
just
going
to
be
something
that
is
going
to
be
more
common,
so
having
those
spaces
where
they
can
run
around
is
important
and
also
you
know.
I
think
this
is
hard
to
you
know
when
you
have
been
to
a
dog
park
and
watch
those
dogs.
I
You
know
there's
just
something
so
joyful
about
seeing
you
know
the
pure
happiness
that
they
experience
too,
which
is
obviously
you
know
just
knowing
that
they
are.
You
know,
acting
as
as
dogs
should
and
having
the
space
to
run.
It's
it's
really,
it's
quite
fun
to
watch.
In
addition
to
all
the
other
benefits.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
cara.
I
know
counselor
bach
stepped
off
for
another
meeting,
as
did
council
o'malley,
maybe
maybe
I'll
I'll
ask
a
brief
question
before
we
go
into
public
testimony
or
I'll.
Just
go
back
to
council
royale.
If
he
has
follow-up
questions
to
the
panelists.
C
Yes,
mr
chair,
if
I
could
just
I
think,
miss
dunn
had
a
question
that
I
had
put
on
the
floor
for
her
about
how
the
city
could
work
better
with
their
with
groups.
Trying
to
do
this,
and
I
know
she
has
some
models
I
think
about
this,
but
also
I
I
would
really
appreciate
her
insider.
She
could
just
be
given
an
opportunity
to
answer
that.
J
Yeah,
I
can
also
provide
myself,
and
some
of
the
other
people
from
our
group
provides
some
written
testimony,
but
I
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
one
when
people
are
starting.
These
non-profits
is
some
some
help
and
guidance
in
just
the
mechanics
of
of
starting
a
friends
of
the
and
a
non-pro.
You
know
you
have
to
create
a
non-profit.
J
I
also
think
helping
with
the
messaging
and
helping
with
you
know,
bridging
between
making
that
bridge
between
people
who
don't
own
dogs
or
don't
support
dog
parks
so
that
we
aren't
it
shouldn't,
be
a
us
versus
them
kind
of
thing.
It's.
How
do
we
co-exist?
We
have
to
co-exist
in.
You
know,
parks,
for
you
know
we
have
to
avoid
bicyclists
sometimes,
but
how
do
we
co-exist?
How
do
we
get
a
message
out
and
how
do
we
navigate
some
of
the.
J
Bureaucratic
and
political
landscapes-
we
were
very
lucky
karen
jones,
who
was
our
president-
was
very
skilled
at
this
and
had
a
lot
of
experience
in
that
area
and
actually
that
and
knew
some
people.
So
one
of
the
things
we
were
able
to
do
was
with
working
with
dcr
was
she
had
some
relationships
and
we
know
that
a
lot
of
this
work
in
community,
organizing
and
political
work
is
about
relationships
and
knowing
who
the
right
person
to
talk
to
so
so
that
kind
of
support,
I
think,
is,
is
really
helpful.
J
I
think
there
are
other
things,
but
again
I'd
be
happy
to
kind
of
think
about
them
more
and
maybe
write
those
up
and
get
input
from
other
people
as
well
and
because
I
think,
there's
a
variety
of
of
things.
It
took
us
a
while
to
you
know
gel
together
as
a
group
and
also
figure
out
how
to
focus
our
energies.
But
you
know
we
did
a
lot.
We
did
a
lot
of
work
together
again,
I
think
it's,
it's
just
there's
a
steep
learning
curve.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
that,
and
I
see
the
rest
of
whatever
time
I
may
have
for
this
hearing,
mr
chair,
so
that
we
can
hear
from
the
testifiers.
A
Thank
you,
council
royal,
thank
you
cardi,
and
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
briefly
on
claudia's
comments.
I
I
think
one
aspect
of
this
discussion
is
really
the
communication
understanding
education
between
dog
owners
and
non-dog
owners
about
about
the
role
of
a
dog
park,
and
you
know
the
rules
of
a
dog
park
in
the
rules
outside
of
a
dog
park,
and
I
think,
if
everyone
follows
them,
I
think
would
be
much
better
off.
A
But
again
it's
a
public
awareness
education
campaign,
as
we
as
the
district
city
council
is
know.
Well,
council
royal
knows
well,
I
certainly
do
and
the
others
our
job
is
really
bringing
people
together,
especially
people
that
may
have
a
different,
a
different
opinion
about
a
particular
subject.
A
But
having
said
that,
let
me
go
directly
now
into
public
testimony
and
there
are
several
people
that
have
raised
their
hand
and
if
I
could
ask
if
we
could
try
to
keep
it
under
two
minutes
for
public
testimony,
I
will
not
cut
you
off.
But
if
you
are
able
to
keep
it
under
two
minutes,
that
would
be
appreciated,
so
we
can
get
as
many
people
as
we
can
at
this
time.
Could
I
ask
chris,
I
think
you
have
your
hand
raised
chris
chris
arena.
Would
you
like
to
testify.
K
Yes,
thank
you
chairman
and
thank
you
team
counselors,
many
of
whom
I
have
built
a
personal
relationship
with
over
the
last
couple
of
years
advocating
for
dogs
and
animals
in
the
city.
I
moved
to
boston
five
years
ago
from
washington
dc,
where
I
had
worked
in
a
career
in
politics
and
marketing
for
several
years
lived
in
allston
when
I
first
came
here
and
got
involved
in
that
smith
field.
K
Conversation
very
early
on
for
phase
two
to
advocate
for
dog
parks,
because
the
first
thing
I
noticed
in
the
city
is
when
I
would
visit
friends
in
dorchester
matapan,
pretty
you
know
roslindale
at
the
time
I
was
living
in
in
alston
or
jp.
There
were
nowhere.
There
was
nowhere.
I
could
take
my
dog.
K
I
will
also
note
that
I
have
a
silent,
a
silent,
participator
here,
who's
a
little
shy
and
is
not
going
to
leave
her
commentary,
but
joy
also
is
in
support
of
advanced
advancing
dog
parks
in
the
western
side
of
the
city.
I
am
a
roslindale
condo
owner
now,
a
couple
of
years
after
I
priced
out
the
neighborhood
and
bought
in
raji,
I'm
on
the
am
the
mayor's
animal
commission
as
well.
I
serve
on
the
commission
to
advocate
for
animals
in
the
city
and
I
am
a
foster
family.
K
My
partner
and
I
are
foster
family
through
last
hope.
Canine,
both
of
our
dogs
are
rescues.
I've
had
dogs,
my
entire
life
and
rescued
dogs
as
much
as
I
physically
possibly
could.
My
latest
er
endeavor
has
been
working
with
commissioner
woods
and
alexis
and
parks
about
healy
field,
which
commissioner
woods
mentioned
earlier
in
this
meeting
to
try
to
identify
a
site
on
this
part
of
in
my
neighborhood
in
roslindale.
K
It's
unfortunate
that
we
have
more
roller
hockey,
rinks
in
the
neighborhood
than
dog
parks
coming
from
a
hockey
player
who
also
uses
that
rink
as
well.
You
know
because
hockey,
players
and
dog
owners
also
vote.
I
think,
through
my
experiences
in
allston,
where
we
initially
got
350
signatures
to
build
the
dog
park
in
lower
austin
along
dcr
land
on
the
river,
which
took
three
years
and
eventually
got
taped
by
dcr.
A
very
similar
experience
to
what
claudia
went
through
tabled
indefinitely
and
essentially
the
project
was
killed.
K
There
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
passion,
a
lot
of
interest
around
whether
it's
adaptive,
reuse
of
fields
like
let's
say
making
ball
fields,
dog
fields
in
the
off
season
or
building
dog
parks
in
underrepresented
areas
like
millennium
park,
but
the
issue
that
I've
found
in
every
single
advocacy,
both
in
dc
and
in
boston,
is
going
from
passion
to
action
right
going
from
the
300
400
500
signatures
that
you
can
get
and
setting
up
these
meetings
and
having
these
conversations
to
actually
putting
a
line
item
in
the
budget
and
and
that
very
simple
step
is
an
extraordinarily
difficult
step,
and
I
don't
really
know
what's
what
that
threat
is,
and
so
the
reason
I
wanted
to
leave
my
insights
join
this
meeting.
K
Leave
public
comment
is
that
as
someone
who's
been
involved,
both
in
the
dog
fostering
community
dog
advocacy
and
animal
control
community
is
an
a
dog
parent
of
two
dogs
and
a
activist
in
the
city
and
an
active
voter.
K
Even
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
go
from.
I
know
everyone
in
my
neighborhood
wants
a
dog
park
to
how
do
we
get
one
and
that's
through
no
fault
of
the
system.
I
do
think,
though,
that
it
would
be
especially
as
we're
talking
about
the
budget.
Now
it
would
behoove
the
city
to
think
about
whether
it's
this
year
or
next
year,
actionable
line
items
that
we
can
dedicate
to
the
western
half
of
the
city.
K
I
think
you
know
particularly
matapan
hyde
park,
roslindale
and
jamaica,
plain
quite
frankly
and
austin
brighton,
although
I
think
smithfield
will
be
a
wonderful
I've,
seen
the
plans
for
that
and
it's
what
ryan
had
talked
about
a
big,
a
big
side
and
a
small
side
for
dogs.
K
It's
about
30,
000
square
feet,
that's
what
we
need
and
dcr,
unfortunately,
in
many
of
my
cases
in
the
state
are
not
as
easy
to
work
with
as
the
city,
so
I
hope
that
we
can
get
an
investment
in
actionable
budget
items
out
of
these
meetings
and
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
And
thank
you
and
thank
you
chris.
How
about
roberta
cantkin
roberto?
Would
you
like
to
testify
if
you
were
able
to
keep
it
under
two
minutes?
That
would
be
great
hi,
roberta.
L
L
We're
enthusiastic
about
this
prospect
of
creating
a
local
board
of
residents
who
are
willing
to
partner
with
public
agency
staff,
charged
with
the
creation
and
maintenance
of
our
dog
parks.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
to
make
this
desire
and
this
request
a
reality,
and
I
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
M
Okay,
so
sorry,
you
can't
see
me.
I
have
no
idea
how
to
do
this
all
right,
just
a
second
audio,
okay,
just
let
it
be
all
right.
So
today
I
have
joined
with
the
group
of
jamaica,
plain
activists
who
were
calling
on
dog
parks.
However,
I
live
in
roslindale
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
in
an
effort
to
also
include
roslindale
on
this
issue.
We
three
key
issues
came
up,
which
is
the
fact
that,
and
I
realized
I
realized-
that
some
of
them
were
illegal.
There's
been
a
loss
of
space.
M
Both
the
arboretum
now
is
actively
ticketing.
People
who
put
their
dogs
off
leash,
which
I
was
not
aware
of.
I've
been
a
dog
owner
in
boston
since
2001
and
when
I
was
living
at
archdale,
the
arboretum
on
the
roslindale
side
was
where
my
two
terriers
grew
up.
So
I
was
totally
unaware
of
it
until
about
six
weeks
ago,
when
my
current
terrier
and
I
were
ticketed
so
then,
the
forest
hill
cemetery
has
no
longer
allows
people
to
even
have
dogs
on
leash
going
into
the
forest
hill
cemetery.
M
It
was
alluded
to
several
times
before
that.
There's
the
increased
dog
space
that
there's
increased
everybody.
There
are
more
dogs,
the
pandemic
dogs,
and
this
leaves
less
places
in
roslindale
and
the
the
jamaica
plain
area
for
dogs
to
go.
M
M
M
The
the
I
swear
practically
wore
out
when
those
two,
but
first
two
dogs
passed
away
because
they
took
care
of
us.
So
much,
and
my
current
dog
is
also
an
emotional
support.
Animal
I'm
bringing
this
up
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
living
with
disabilities.
They
may
be
invisible.
Disabilities
or
visible
disabilities-
and
we
know
that
our
dogs
need
to
let
out
that
energy.
M
They
take
up
a
lot
of
energy
when
they're
emotional
support
animals,
or
even
when
they're
service
animals
from
their
the
people
they
care
for,
and
they
need
to
have
that
release,
and
one
thing
that
I
also
want
to
say
as
a
positive,
especially
with
my
newer
dog
who
I
got
as
a
puppy,
she
was
socialization
skills
and
being
able
to
behave
better
results
from
being
able
to
have
her
be
with
other
dogs.
M
Okay,
if
you
ever
have
read
the
season
milan
series
on
books,
he
his
books,
they
totally
explain
how
good
behavior
is
reinforced
by
having
dogs
be
socialized
among
other
dogs.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
very
much
melinda
for
your
testimony,
your
important
testimony
and
your
support
for
persons
with
disabilities,
but
also
I
I
know
your
family's
tremendous
sacrifice
for
our
country,
in
your
advocacy,
your
family's
advocacy
as
well
for
our
disabled
veterans
community
across
the
country.
So
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
tremendous
work
in
assisting
persons
with
disabilities.
A
A
N
Oops,
of
course
I
and
I
will
set
my
timer
for
myself.
N
I
would
like
to
very
very
highly
reflect
what
ms
arendo
just
said,
because
a
lot
of
dog
owners,
including
myself,
have
disabilities
that
you
might
not
see
on
the
outside
or
might
not
be
apparent,
because
I
am
a
young,
a
young
boston
citizen
of
the
last
10
years
today
is
actually
my
30th
birthday,
and
this
is
what
I
chose
to
do
for
the
last
hour
and
a
half,
and
as
long
as
it
was
necessary
because
it's
so
important,
I
am
also
a
dog
parent
from
like
a
pandemic
dog
parent,
but
I've
always
had
dogs
and
especially
times
like
now.
N
In
the
pandemic.
I
have
found
going
to
dog
parks
to
be
like
to
be
an
incredible
source
of
energy
for
physical
and
mental
health
for
all
the
dog
owners.
I
mean
everyone's
smiling
there
and
everyone
talks
about
how
important
it
is
to
them,
not
just
their
dogs,
because
of
how
it
makes
them
feel
to
have
the
dogs
and
talking
about
training.
N
As
ms
arendo
was
saying,
it
is
incredibly
incredibly
key
to
socialized
dogs
when
you're
training
and
in
order
to
do
that,
they
need
to
have
freedom
to
interact
with
dogs
which
a
lot
of
dogs,
simply
just
they
don't
have
access
to
if
they
don't
have.
N
If
there
aren't
other
dogs
at
home
and
they
don't
have
access
to
without
dog
parks,
and
in
this
time
I've
been
going
to
parks
all
around
the
greater
boston
area
everywhere
from
waltham
to
newton
to
I
go
most
often
to
brookline,
and
I
am
willing
to
pay
into
these
programs
that
they
they
have.
I
know,
for
example,
newton
and
brookline
specifically
have
two
great
parks:
the
brookline
ave
playground
and
honeywell
park
and
newton
that
you
have
to
pay
into
their
program
and
it's
one
of
those
things
where
you
know.
I'm
happy.
N
You
know
to
license
my
dog
in
boston
and
to
pay
into
that
program
and
to
see
the
money
go
towards
that
if
it
means
the
health
and
well-being
of
my
dog,
as
well
as
the
community
dogs,
and
it's
it's
just
such
an
important
kind
of
way.
For
that
I
know
my
family
and
and
other
friends,
families
that
we
have
a
community,
and
I
I
do
I
wish
it
was
something
that
was
available
here,
I'm
a
resident
of
roslindale.
N
I
was
a
jp
resident
for
a
few
years
and
we
moved
to
roslindale
once
we
were
able
to
buy
an
apartment,
and
you
know
we
just
we
don't.
We
have
a
driveway
and
that's
where
I
have
the
opportunity
to
play
with
my
dog
and
it's
it's
only
feasible
during
the
pandemic
that
we've
been
able
to
make
these
drives
to
to
parks.
N
That
are,
you
know,
half
an
hour,
sometimes
an
hour
away,
but
that's
because
I
have
the
privilege
of
having
a
car
and
you
know
being
able
to
work
from
home
and
work
things
around
it,
and
I
would
just
you
know
it's
something
that
I
feel
super
strongly
about.
I
would
do
whatever
I
can.
I
just
don't
know
how
to
do
it
to
be
a
part
of
this
movement
and
get
it
going.
N
So
I
really
appreciate
thank
you
to
the
jp
dogs
group,
honestly,
I'm
I
got
through.
I
would
I
found
out
about
everything
through
facebook
and
for
spreading
it,
and
thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
hearing
us
all
out.
A
Thank
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Next
up
colleague,.
O
If
you
could
see
my
face
because
I've
been
in
iran
in
boston
for
over
43
years
and
you
and
I
worked
together
on
question
one
which
unfortunately
didn't
pass
with
the
patient
nurse
ratio,
I
was
representing
the
m
a.
I
was
a
boston
city
nurse
that
became
bmc.
I
used
to
work
nights
on
the
adult
surgical
floor
and
come
out
and
walk
dogs
because
I
had
a
side
business.
At
the
time
I've
been
in
the
pet
care
business
for
over
31
years
in
boston.
Now,
that's
my
main
stay.
I
do
train
dogs.
O
I
have
been
an
advocate
for
many
different
things,
and
here
I
am
advocating
for
more
dog
parks,
because
for
one
thing
we
are
the
number
one
city.
I
did
my
research
for
this
meeting.
The
number
one
city
in
the
country
believe
it
or
not
for
dog
parks
is
boise
idaho.
They
have
5.7
dog
parks
for
every
100,
000
people,
boston.
O
In
the
latest
statistics
I
could
find
ranks
40
for
41st
and
that's
really
kind
of
a
travesty,
because
we're
a
world-class
city
and
we
need
to
bring
up
our
our
dog
park
ratio
so
that
we
meet
the
needs
of
constituents
because
there
are
so
many
dog
families
and
furry
family
members.
For
most
people
have
the
same
standing
or
you
know
they
are
family
members
and
they
do
need.
The
recreation
has
been
brought
up
and
humans
need
that.
O
I
also
researched
a
lot
of
articles
and
there
are
some
articles
which
are
negative
from
dog
owners.
I
hate
dog
parks.
Do
you
know
why
those
those
negative
things
occur
because
there
are
dog
owners
that
are
irresponsible
and
don't
follow
the
rules
of
dog
parks?
So
when
we
get
dog
parks,
we
need
to
have
a
way
of
enforcing
rules
and
there's
very
on
the
internet.
O
You
can
look
up
all
the
rules
and
rights
of
dog
parks
around
the
country
and
we
could
cull
the
ones
and
make
them
tailor
them
to
fit
boston
as
we
create
more
and
more
dog
parks,
and
there
has
to
be
a
way
of
enforcing
them,
because
it's
humans
that
ruin
things
like
that.
But
there
are
two
very
positive
articles
that
I
would
like
to
call
attention
to.
O
They're
simple
and
direct
one
is
dog
parks
101
from
2019,
from
the
trust
for
public
land,
very
good
article
about
creating
dog
parks
and
the
nrpa,
the
national
recreation
and
park
association.
Designing
and
managing
innovative
dog
parks
from
november
2nd
2018
has
really
good
suggestions
and
and
stories
about
dog
parks.
O
And
there
are
many
articles
I
would
say,
as
we
create
more
dog
parks,
which
we
need
to
to
be
a
world
class
city
and
to
meet
the
needs
of
constituents
and
taxpayers
that
we
would
have
citizens
as
part
of
advisory
groups
who
have
a
stake
in
it.
I
think
that's
very
important
that
it's
not
just
elected
officials
or
people
that
are
professionals
in
you
know
in
in
animal
advocacy
or
in
animal
control.
I
think
that
there
should
be
citizens
voices
also,
I
think,
that's
very
important.
O
O
But
one
of
the
things
that
happened
is
a
lot
of
people
came
in
and
they
had
dogs
and
they
started
using
the
parks
with
their
dogs.
And
do
you
know
what
happens
because
I
know
that
the
park
commissioner
said
that
there
are
good
things.
Crime
also
decreases
in
parks
when
dog
owners
walk
and
I'm
also
been
a
volunteer
in
the
southwest
carter
for
over
31
years,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
and
at
all
hours,
people
walk
their
dogs
in
the
carter
and
that
does
deter
crime.
O
O
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
testimony.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
As
a
nurse
in
the
city
of
boston,
valerie
barrett
is
next
and
I
I
would
ask
if
people
could
keep
their
testimony
under
two
minutes,
so
I
can
get
every
resident
that
wants
to
testify
valerie
you're
next.
P
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
I
live
in
high
park,
a
current
dog
owner
I
have
actually
been
advocating
and
organizing
within
the
community.
For
the
past
year,
I've
spoken
to
lots
of
people
that
were
part
of
the
efforts
previously
with
the
thompson
center.
P
I
currently
have
started
a
petition
a
little
over
a
week
ago
and
it
has
over
a
thousand
signatures
in
a
week,
so
that
just
shows
you
right
there.
People
couldn't
sign
quick
enough,
and
we
can
tell
from
this
meeting
that
it
obviously
has
a
lot
of
support,
but
I
think
right
now
where
we're
at
is
we
don't
know
where
we
go
from
here?
So
even
from
this
hearing
I
was
kind
of
hoping
we
would
figure
out,
for
example,
my
petition
with
over
a
thousand
signatures
currently
and
more
every
day.
P
Who
am
I
sending
that
to
and
who's
going
to
tell
us
where
to
go
for
the
next
step?
I
know
like
with
the
high
park.
We
have
a
lot
of
state
land
so
who
from
the
state,
am
I
supposed
to
contact
from
here
on
how
we
can
work
with
the
city?
What
space
is
available?
We
have
tons
of
space
over
here
in
hyde
park,
so
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
imagine
why
we
can't
easily
just
get
come
together
and
find
a
place
for
the
dogs.
P
P
I
was
out
saying
hi
and
meeting
lots
of
other
dogs
in
the
neighborhoods
lots
of
neighbors
and
it
was
constantly
being
brought
up
about
the
non-existent
space
that
we
have
to
bring
our
dogs
there's
no
opportunities
to
socialize
and
many
people
don't
have
fenced
in
yards
where
they
can
run.
So
there
was
a
group
of
us
that
would
often
try
to
meet
up
during
the
day
at
a
local
park
that
was
never
being
used
and
we
really
didn't
see
the
harm
in
letting
our
dogs
play
and
throw
a
ball.
P
But,
of
course
it
goes
against
the
leash
laws,
so
we
were
often
warned
that
we
needed
to
leave
the
park
or
keep
our
dogs
on
leash,
but
we
we
have
no
other
options
and,
as
was
just
mentioned
previously,
the
city
of
boston
is
so
far
behind
other
major
cities
when
it
comes
to
dog
parks
and
I've
been
to
cities
all
over
the
country
where
dog
parks
are
such
a
common,
integral
part
of
the
city.
I
currently
drive
about
25
minutes,
usually
to
get
to
a
dog
park.
P
I
go
to
quincy,
it's
just
pretty
awful
that
we
have
to
do
that
and
a
lot
of
people
don't
have
the
options
to
drive
25
minutes
to
go
to
a
dog
park.
So
if
we
had
that
there
would
be
less
problems
with
dogs
being
off
leash
in
areas
they
aren't
allowed
and
it
really
does
build
a
sense
of
community
meeting
up
with
fellow
dog
owners.
P
This
past
year,
like
we
were
doing
in
the
park,
became
such
a
highlight
in
my
day
and
just
getting
outside
and
talking
to
people
and
watching
the
dogs
play.
Everyone
was
happier.
It
was
a
great
opportunity
to
trade
recommendations
for
local
businesses
in
the
area,
whether
it's,
where
do
you
bring
your
dog
for
training
or
daycare,
or
what
company
did
you
do
use
to
repair
your
walkway?
That's
how
I
found
out
about
someone
in
high
park.
P
I
just
really
gained
so
much
by
getting
outside
and
talking
to
the
neighbors
and
that's
what
kind
of
sparked
me
to
get
organized
and
start
the
petition
and
kind
of
start
reaching
out
to
people
in
the
city.
But
I
haven't
really
gotten
any
further
because
I
feel
like
we
hit
a
dead
end
and
it
shouldn't
really
be
up
to
like
community
members
to
have
to
organize
and
fight
this
hard
just
to
get
a
dog
park
when
other
places
in
the
city.
Don't
have
to
do
that.
P
A
A
A
Maybe
that
person
is
not
on
it's
a
b
e
l,
l,
ew,
okay,
I'm
gonna
go
on
to
the
next
person
is
kelly.
O'keefe
hi,
kelly.
Q
Q
I
feel
that
there
are
so
many
good
reasons
to
add
in
fenced
dog
areas
to
every
neighborhood
in
boston,
many
of
which
have
been
already
mentioned
today,
but
one
of
those
main
reasons
is
equity.
Many
of
us
do
not
have
the
luxury
of
a
private
fenced
in
yard,
for
our
dogs
to
exercise
it
safely,
nor
a
car
to
drive
to
a
dog
park
located
in
another
out
of
range
area.
I
know
I
don't.
Q
In
contrast,
I
can
walk
a
few
blocks
in
any
direction
and
find
a
playground
which
is
a
safe
and
secure
place
for
children
of
the
community
to
play
and
exercise
it.
Yet
there
are
no
safe
and
secure
places
for
dogs
of
the
community
to
be
found
why
the
disconnect,
with
over
seven
thousand
dogs
licensed
in
the
city
in
2020,
the
existing
amenities
for
tax
paying
dog
owners,
do
not
currently
meet
our
population's
needs
and
haven't
for
a
long
time
as
such.
R
Okay,
okay,
great
first
of
all,
thank
you
to
councillor
arroyo
and
everyone
who's
attending
this.
This
meeting
we-
I
represent
the
friends
of
jp
dog
parks
and
a
couple
of
our
members
have
already
spoken,
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
have
over
500
members
of
our
our
friends
group.
R
Currently,
there
are
zero
dog
parks
in
jamaica
plain,
yet
there
are
plenty
of
other
recreational
facilities
throughout
the
neighborhood
that,
unfortunately,
don't
benefit
dog
owners,
so
we're
looking
again,
as
kelly
said,
we're
looking
for
equity.
I
I
have
been
working
with
groups
in
jamaica,
plain
on
and
off
since
2016
to
advocate
for
dog
parks.
R
Unfortunately,
as
has
been
said,
every
time
we
get
close
to
approval,
there's
always
something
that
thwarts
our
efforts.
The
most
recent
efforts
were
with
dcr
to
in
2017
and
2018.
It
received
support
from
the
community,
but
it
only
took
a
few
neighbors
to
completely
crush
that
plan
with
limited
space
and
resources
available.
Some
compromise
needs
to
happen.
R
We
suggest,
as
before,
we
suggest
to
have
a
creating
an
advisory
committee
such
as
in
the
town
of
brookline,
where
all
points
of
view
are
heard
and
a
compromise
is
met
in
brookline.
They
have
learned
to
share
their
public
spaces
and
athletic
fields,
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
something
like
that
here,
as
well,
perhaps
a
hybrid
model,
where
we
have
both
gated
off-leash
parks,
as
well
as
sharing
certain
athletic
fields
with
limited
within
limitations
of
time
and
and
timing
of
the
seasons.
R
Personally,
I'd
like
to
add
that
I've
lived
in
jamaica,
plain
since
1981
and
have
had
dogs
all
of
my
life.
It
has
been
extremely
frustrating
for
me,
as
a
dog
owner,
to
continue
to
push
for
this
amenity
and
not
see
any
significant
results,
while
I'm
also
threatened
with
citations
from
animal
control.
When
I
all
I
want
to
do
is
safely
exercise,
my
dog
many
dog
owners,
like
myself,
see
parks
not
only
as
a
space
to
exercise
and
socialize.
Our
dogs,
but
also
a
place
to
meet
our
neighbors
and
build
community
bonds.
R
Again,
we
we
are
forced
to
to
create
our
own
dog
parks
which
are
currently
illegal
and
we
feel
like
criminals
quite
frankly
when
we
do
so,
and
all
we
want
is
to
have
a
safe
space
for
our
dogs
to
exercise
where
we
don't
have
to
bother
walking
pedestrians
who
are
walking
by
or
people
who
are
walking
their
dogs
on
leash.
R
S
S
A
safe
space,
ideally
fenced
to
exercise
dogs
is
of
paramount
importance
for
dog
lovers
like
myself,
but
also
creates
an
environment
that
is
safe
and
enjoyable
for
non-dog
owners
or
owners
who
need
to
keep
their
dogs
on
leash,
as
council
members
and
others
have
mentioned.
This
is
an
issue
of
equity
on
a
number
of
planes,
whether
it's
accessibility,
racial
justice
or
economic
equity.
S
I
do
think
that
programs,
like
the
green
dog
initiative
in
brookline,
are
something
that
we
can
learn
from
and
perhaps
implement,
but
I'm
really
distressed
to
see
that
there
are
not
more
spaces
that
are
safe
and
accessible
for
residents
of
boston.
A
A
T
Hi
thanks,
I
am
a
hyde
park
resident
and
have
a
coveted
pup
here
who
we've
had
for
just
just
under
a
year
now-
and
I
agree
with
everybody
who
has
talked
about
both
the
joy
of
having
a
dog
as
part
of
your
household
and
the
overall
benefits
to
the
dog
and
the
community.
If
there
are
good
spaces
for
for
these
animals,
I
wanted
to
first
of
all
just
say
that
I
lived
in
new
york
city
for
a
number
of
years
with
a
dog
and
the
parks
there.
T
Many
of
the
parks
have
off
leash
hours,
which
has
been
discussed
here,
and
that
really,
I
got
to
say,
worked
out
really
well
and
you
know
very,
very
densely
populated
areas.
You
know
from
six
to
eight
or
something
that
was
allowed
for
the
dogs
to
be
off
leash
and
the
dog
owners
you
know,
took
good
care
of
the
place
after
them.
A
Can
you
please
go
on
mute,
please?
This
is
a
zoom
conference.
T
T
The
idea
that
the
community
itself
has
to
raise
250
000
to
implement
a
dog
park
ends
up.
You
know
benefiting
those
communities
that
are
capable.
You
know
they
can
easily
put
their
hands
on
that
kind
of
money.
It
also
sort
of
speaks
to
an
idea
that
this
is
not
a
legitimate
use
of
public
funds,
which
I
think
is
just
like.
This
should
be
part
of
a
budget.
This
should
be
part
of
a
how
we
think
about
our
our
public
spaces
and
the
way
parks.
T
Commissioner,
woods
discussed
the
limitations
on
where
a
park
can
go
and
the
needs
it
seemed
like.
There's
just
ends
up
being
a
self-fulfilling
outcome.
Here,
where
we
have,
you
know
very,
very
difficult
to
reach
very
limited
dog
parks
that
are
sort
of
you
know
it
creates
a
bar
that
is
extraordinarily
difficult
to
reach.
You
know,
we've
got
somebody
noted
in
hyde
park.
We
have
really
nice
public
spaces.
We
have
really
nice
spaces,
there's
colella
field
here,
which
would
make
for
a
wonderful
dog
park.
T
It's
very
seldom
used
by
people
for
any
other
reason,
yet
you
know
it
can't
be
used.
So
I
would
just
like
to
you
know
hope
that
our
government,
our
city
government,
you
know-
actually
makes
this
and
you
know
the
mayor's
office-
makes
this
a
priority
that
become
that
you
know
filters
down
to
the
parks
department
that
this
did
this
become
something
that
they
have
to
implement,
that
it's
not
something
where
we're
just
left
to
the
you
know
that
it's
left
to
the
individual
communities
to
advocate
forcefully
and
then
raise
money.
That's
not
like.
A
Thank
you,
jay
jackie
white
hi,
jackie
you're.
Next.
E
Hi
there
thank
you
so
much
chairman
and
council
members.
I
really
I
want
to
echo
what
everyone
has
said
so
far
about
the
tremendous
need
for
dog
parks
in
boston.
I
currently
live
in
roxbury
and
that's
one
area
that
I
haven't
heard
mentioned
so
far.
I
previously
lived
in
the
south
end
where
I
had
access
to
both
claredon
dog
park
and
peter's
dog
park
and
moving
here
to
roxbury.
E
I
certainly
was
at
a
loss
at
the
at
the
lack
of
space
for
dogs
and
during
the
pandemic.
I
lost
my
dog
of
11
years
and
I
ended
up
getting
a
new
puppy
and,
as
a
result
of
having
a
new
puppy,
I
was
able
to
meet
a
lot
of
neighbors
and
in
the
neighborhood.
E
It
really
is
discouraging
to
think
we
could
spend
five
six
seven
eight
ten
years
working
on
a
dog
park
only
to
have
it
shut
down,
particularly
since
our
dogs,
for
me,
don't
live
that
long,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
one
thing
that's
unique
about
roxbury
is
there
are
lots
of
city-owned
plots
and
we
have
actually
been
using
some
one
of
them
temporarily,
and
I
will
say
that
it
does
cause
tension
with
neighbors
when
we
we
don't
have
places
for
our
dogs
to
play.
There's
a
lot
of
frustration
about.
E
You
know:
people
not
picking
up
after
their
dogs
or
people
who
are
scared
of
of
dogs
and
don't
want
to
see
them
as
frequently
on
the
street,
so
kind
of
having
a
safe
place
contained
place
where
dogs
can
play
is
very
much
needed
and
from
my
perspective,
what
I
really
feel
we
need
is
transparency
on
this
process
echoes
what
others
have
said.
The
250
000
is
just
not
feasible,
particularly
among
my
neighbors
here
in
roxbury
and
from
an
equity
standpoint.
E
We
need
to
have
a
place
for
our
dogs
to
socialize,
it's
good
for
their
health.
It's
good
for
our
health,
and
so
you
know
clarity
on
you
know
whether
or
not
we
have
to
establish
a
non-profit
whether
or
not
we
have
to
raise
250
000
and
then,
if
we
let's
say
we're
able
to
do
all
that,
then
what's
the
next
step
after
that,
to
actually
make
this
this
thing
a
reality.
E
So
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
today
and
I
look
forward
to
having
some
clarity
and
transparency
in
this
process
so
that
we
can
get
access
to
dog
parks
for
the
humans
and
the
dogs
that
greatly
need
them
here
in
roxbury.
So
thank
you
all.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
Testimony
next
up
is
elizabeth.
U
You
and
thank
you
all
for
your
work,
all
the
counselors,
the
city
councilors,
I'm
fine
with
dog
parks,
although
I've
never
been
a
dog
owner
other
than
when
I
was
a
kid,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
unfenced
off-leash
dog
parks,
as
it
applies
to
the
charles
gate
park
that
is
in
the
process
of
being
created.
U
It's
part
of
olmsted's,
muddy
river,
but
it's
broken
up
by
it
starts
at
the
charles
and
then
it's
broken
up
by
beacon
street.
U
Then
there's
a
block
about
a
block
with
between
beacon
street
and
comm
ave
going
towards
brookline,
and
then
it's
broken
up
by
that
area
of
comm
ave
and
then
there's
another
section
of
the
park
and
then
there's
a
third
break
for
comm
ave
going
into
boston
and
then
there's
a
break
between
that
one.
The
cross,
comm
ave
to
newbury
street.
So
there's
it's
a
very
small
park.
U
I'm
sorry
and
I
think
there's
that
I
thought
that
what
we
were
talking
about
today
was
off-leash
parks
and
it's
just
too
small
a
I'm
fine
with
a
park
going
in
for
dogs,
but
it
should
be
because
it's
so
small
it
would
have
to
be
fenced
because
it's
just
too
small
for
an
off-leash
area,
at
least
that's
what
I
think,
given
the
number
of
people
that
would
be
using
it,
many
of
which
would
be
children
and
carriages
and
given
I'm
in
back
bay,
there's
a
lot
of
older
people
and
the
closest
park,
I
think,
is
really
at
clarendon
so
and
then
there's
the
comm
ave,
the
mall
with
a
few
benches,
but
that's
about
it.
U
So
I
just
don't
think
it's
big
enough.
It's
certainly
big
enough
to
have
a
dog
park.
I've
never
quarreled
about
that.
It's
been
in
the
works
for
about
a
year,
creating
it
and
raising
the
money
for
it,
etc.
But
it's
just
not
big
enough
to
have
an
off
leash
section.
The
dog
area
needs
to
be
fenced
in
am
I
within
the
two
minutes?
Yes,.
B
A
Are
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
elizabeth
for
your
testimony.
Alan
you're
up
next.
A
Going
once
going
twice,
okay,
that
one's
not
with
us,
that's
that's
all!
I
have
for
public
testimony
at
this
time.
I
would
like
to
give
it
to
council
arroyo
for
his
closing
statement
and
and
then
I'll
and
then
I'll
make
final
comments
at
the
very
end,
but
council
arroyo.
Would
you
like
to
make
closing
statements
before
we
conclude.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
my
camera's
off
just
to
to
preserve
the
battery
of
my
phone
here,
but
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
testimony
for
their
engagement.
This
is
certainly
not
the
end
of
this
process
to
be
clear.
At
least
I
hope
this
was
my
intermination,
my
my
what
I
understood
and
I'll
follow
up
and
make
sure
that
it's
not
the
case.
I
believe
what
commissioner
woods
was
referring
to
at
the
250.
C
000
is
that's
the
general
cost
of
a
dog
park
and
that
the
city
does
foot
that
cost
and
when
they
build
them,
that
would
be
the
budget
request
that
would
be
made
of
the
counselor
to
accommodate
in
the
budget,
but
I
will
certainly
follow
up,
and
I
don't
know
if
he's
still
here
on
that
particular
piece,
because
I
agree
expecting
all
of
our
communities
to
be
able
to
come
up
with
250
000
individually.
C
Is
I
mean?
That's
that's
wild.
I
couldn't
even
imagine
having
to
do
that.
So
that's
that
shouldn't
be
the
case.
C
I
would
certainly
advocate
for
that
not
to
be
the
case,
and
it's
my
hope
that
commissioner
woods
was
not
implying
that
that
is
the
way
that
that
has
to
happen,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
advocating
for
continued
dog
parks
in
the
city
I'll
be
seeing
what
what
it
would
take
to
try
and
get
one,
if
not
in
this
fiscal
year
and
the
next
fiscal
year
and
engaging
with
the
community
on
bringing
those
directly
to
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent.
Certainly
so
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
our
panelists.
A
Thank
you,
council
arroyo.
I
want
to
say
thank
you,
council
arroyo,
for
bringing
this
hearing
order
forward.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
on
the
city
council
for
testifying.
A
I
want
to
thank
the
city
administration
team
that
also
testified,
as,
along
with
the
community
advocates
carroll
home
quest
from
the
mspca
and
claudia
dunn,
from
the
from
the
dog
park
association
of
southwest
boston.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
advocates
and
residents
of
boston
for
testifying
for
your
informative
discussion
here
this
afternoon,
as
a
in.
In
closing,
let
me
just
let
me
just
say
that
this
hearing
auto
is
brought
forth
by
council
council
arroyo
and,
as
the
chair
of
this
committee,
I
would
like.
A
I
would
like
to
keep
this
discussion
in
committee
for
a
follow-up
conversation
in
discussion
discussion,
which
would
be
a
working
session
and
so
I'll
work
closely
with
council
arroyo
and
with
the
administration
team
and
have
a
follow-up
discussion
on
where
we
go
from
here,
but
that
will
include
testimony
again
from
from
city
officials
and
in
the
meantime
I
know,
there's
some
outstanding
questions
you
could.
A
So
again,
this
is
the
first
step.
It's
not.
The
final
step
in
a
working
session
is
basically
listening
in
depth
to
a
detailed
discussion
from
people
that
council
royal
might
recommend
experts
such
as
yourself
on
where
we
go
from
here
and
what
are
the
next
steps
to
make
make
this
possible.
A
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
one
final
point.
I
still
think
there's
a
a
breakdown
in
communication
between
dog
owners
and
non-dog
owners
that
we
have
to
bridge
that
gap,
and
that
takes
all
of
us
to
be
part
of
it
and
city
officials,
residents
of
the
city,
dog
owners,
non-dog
owners
about
how
we
work
together
because
having
such
conflicts
is
not
healthy.
A
It's
not
it's
not
good
for
the
city,
it's
not
good
for
for
our
residents
and
it
only
divides
divides
people
and
our
job
here
as
a
city
as
a
city
council.
As
a
body
is
trying
to
bring
diverse
opinions
together,
listen
to
people
respectfully
and
come
come
up
with
some
type
of
compromise
that
works
best
for
everybody.
A
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
public
awareness
education
campaign
on
this
critical
issue.
I
don't
think
I
don't
pretend
to
be
an
expert,
but
if
I
can
continue
to
be
helpful,
please
include
me
in
that
discussion
at
this
time.
The
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss,
off-leash
dog
recreation
spaces
in
the
city
of
boston
is
over
and
I
will
take
final.
I
will
follow
up
with
council
royal
on
on
next
steps.