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Docket #1352, Order for a hearing regarding diversion services for trash at large Boston venues.
A
A
A
To
order
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Kenzie
Bach
I'm,
the
city
councilor
for
District
8,
and
also
the
chair
of
the
Boston
City
councils
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded,
it's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov,
city-council,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN
channel
82
and
FiOS
channel
964.
and
we'll
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
A
So
if
you
are
interested
in
testifying
here
with
us
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
up
on
the
sheet
near
the
door
if
you're
interested
in
testifying
virtually
please
email,
the
central
staff
liaison
Megan
Kavanaugh
for
the
link,
that's
at
megan.kavanaugh
at
boston.gov.
The
way
that
spell
is
n-e-g-h-a-n
dot
k-a-v-a-n-a-g-h
at
boston.gov.
Written
comments
can
also
be
sent
to
the
committee
at
ccc.csit
boston.gov,
that's
ccc.csit
at
boston.gov
and
those
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
A
So,
if
you're
watching
this
after
the
fact-
and
you
want
to
add
something
to
the
conversation,
please
feel
free
to
email
that
to
the
committee.
The
subject
of
the
hearing
is
docket
one
three,
five,
two
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
diversion
services
for
trash
at
large
Boston
venues.
It
was
sponsored
by
councilor,
Michael
Flaherty
and
referred
to
the
committee
on
November
30th
not
referred
to
the
community
on
November
30th
reverts
I,
think
referred
to
the
committee
at
our
last
meeting,
which
would
have
been
November,
2nd,
2022.
A
and
I'm
joined
here
by
the
sponsor
councilor
Michael
Flaherty
at
large
and
my
other
at
large
colleague,
councilor
Aaron
Murphy.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
just
take
some
brief
opening
comments
from
my
colleagues
and
then
we
will
be
going
to
the
administration
we're
joined
here
today
by
Susan
Casino,
the
recycling
director
for
the
city
of
Boston
and
superintendent
altador.
A
Our
general
superintendent
of
Maintenance
really
excited
to
have
you
both,
but
then
we
we're
going
quickly
to
the
to
the
administration
to
just
sort
of
get
there
take
in
a
bit
of
context
on
what
they
do
and
how
they
coordinate.
But
then
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
a
number
of
panelists
representing
various
institutions
and
so
we'll
get
to
that
in
short
order.
But
first
I
want
to
hand
over
the
floor
to
the
sponsor
counselor
Michael
Flaherty
for
his
opening
remarks.
Thank.
B
So
it's
I
would
like
to
obviously
get
a
sense
as
to
what
the
city's
plan
is
with
respect
to
that
I
know
when
we
started
this
effort
and
I
know
my
former
colleague
City
councilor
and
now
state
representative,
Rob,
consalvo
and
I
LED
efforts
on
this
Council
around
single
stream
recycling
Etc
we've
seemed
to
get
away
from
sort
of
the
waste
portion
of
it
and
the
focus
most
recently
from
this
Council
and
and
others
has
been
around
energy,
so
I
just
want
it
to
be
stated
that
you
know
waste
dictates
a
business
guy,
but
footprint
and
every
corporation
institution,
public
and
private,
seeking
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
achieved.
B
Net
zero
emissions
must
tackle
waste
in
addition
to
energy
and
thinking
about
some
of
our
local
sporting
venues,
for
example,
one
with
a
seating
capacity
of
40
000,
which
is
approximately
the
size
of
Fenway
that
holds
100
major
events
generates
1200
tons
of
trash
per
year.
So
the
goal
should
be
to
divert
that
from
landfills
up
to
80
percent
of
the
venue's
trash
to
conserve
landfill
space,
but
also
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
B
So
in
a
nutshell,
look
forward
to
hearing
from
different
folks
today
to
find
out
sort
of
what
they're
doing
are
there
any
best
practices
out
there?
What
are
some
of
our
competitors
and
other
cities
doing
in
an
effort
to
sort
of
tackle
the
waste
portion
of
our
commitment
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions?
So
look
forward
to
hearing
the
testimony.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Great.
Thank
you
so
much
councilor
Flaherty,
councilor
Murphy.
C
Thank
you
chair,
thank
you
for
being
here,
I'm,
looking
forward
to
this
conversation
and
a
lot
of
what
my
Council
colleague,
Flaherty
already
said,
but
I
often
think,
if
I'm
at
like
my
local
park,
for
a
couple
hundred
people
showing
up
for
a
flag
football
and
they
neatly
clean
up
after
themselves
and
they
leave
the
trash
near
the
barrel
for
pickup.
C
Even
then
I
think
oh,
can
we,
you
know,
make
sure
we're
recycling
out
so
knowing
when
we
have
40
000
people
at
Fenway
or
other
venues,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
putting
procedures
in
place
and
supporting
to
make
sure
that
the
end
result
is
that
we're
recycling?
More
is
important
to
me
and
just
looking
forward
to
the
conversation.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you.
Chair.
A
D
Good
morning,
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
being
here.
This
is
a
really
important
issue.
My
colleagues
have
already
spoken
to
it.
I
think
the
amount
of
waste
that's
generated
is
a
big
concern,
especially
if
it's
not
recycled
it
ends
up
in
our
landfill.
It's
a
huge
it's
huge
cost
or
environment,
and
it's
a
huge
cost
to
the
city
and
to
the
organizations
that
generate
all
this
waste
as
well.
D
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor,
Braden,
yeah,
I
I,
would
just
say
you
know,
city
services
and
Innovation
Technologies,
the
title
of
the
committee
and
there
isn't
any
more
basic
City
service
than
taking
out
the
trash
and
to
counselor
Flaherty's
Point,
making
sure
that
the
recycling
is
actually
getting
diverted,
and
you
know,
we've
had
a
number
of
hearings
recently
and
we're
grateful
to
our
Public
Works
folks.
I
see
some
of
them
here
about
how
we,
the
city,
can
do
that
better
about
how
we
can
improve
our
trash
contracts.
A
Obviously,
we've
made
a
major
move
with
composting
recently
I
think
we
all
know
that
the
single
streams
recycling
broker
system
in
general
is
broken
not
just
for
the
city
of
Boston
but
nationally
and
globally,
and
so
that
puts
us
all
in
the
position
of
saying
like
gee.
What
are
we
going
to
do
now,
but
I
think
that
the
the
very
good
point
that
my
colleague
is
making
with
this
hearing
order
is
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
this
activity,
that's
under
the
control
and
purview
of
the
city
of
Boston.
A
But
then
you
know
we
have
very
large
institutional
Footprints
in
this
city,
both
from
our
universities,
our
Hospital
systems
and,
of
course,
our
major
sporting
venues
in
the
city,
both
of
which
are
in
my
district,
along
with
many
of
those
institutions.
In
fact,
and
so
it's
really
important
for
us
that
we're
all
pulling
in
the
same
direction
and
whereas
with
energy
and
the
Birdo
regulations,
we've
sort
of
been
able
to
regulate
that
I
think
you
know
here.
A
We
just
really
need
a
spirit
of
partnership,
making
sure
that
we
are
all
doing
the
best
that
we
can
on
this
front
and-
and
you
know,
learning
from
each
other
too
and
imposing
you
know
innovative
solutions.
I
think
the
recycling
system
has
changed
a
lot
in
the
last
five
to
ten
years
and
things
that
worked
for
everybody
10
years
ago,
aren't
working
now
and-
and
we
know,
there's
a
lot
of
intelligence
at
our
institutions,
and
so
we're
excited
also
to
learn
sort
of
from
what
folks
are
doing
and
put
our
heads
together
today.
A
I
do
just
want
to
acknowledge.
Councilor
Flaherty
did
a
bit
in
his
remarks,
but
we
are
joined
here
today
by
representative
Rob
consalvo.
Also,
formerly
a
member
of
this
body,
a
city
councilor
I
I
will
I
will
avoid
controversy
by
saying
a
lateral
move,
but
but
we're
we're
grateful
for
his
past
service
on
this
and
I'm
glad
that
he
could
join
us
today.
A
So
I'm
gonna
go
like
I
said
to
our
Administration
panel.
This
is
you
know,
in
the
spirit
of
all
pulling
together
hearing
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do
and
how
we
operate
in
City.
Boston
I'll
do
a
round
of
questions
for
counselors,
but
just
ask
colleagues
to
be
mindful
that
we're
grateful
to
have
been
joined
by
a
number
of
institutional
Representatives
today
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
to
them
as
soon
as
possible
and
thank
everybody
for
joining
us
after
the
holiday
weekend.
A
I
hope
everyone
had
a
great
Thanksgiving,
so
I'll
now
go
to
Susan,
Casino
recycling,
director
and
superintendent
Jose
altador.
If
you
can
both
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
what
you
do
and
and
just
give
us
a
bit
of
an
opening
statement,
and
then
we
can
counselors
come
in
with
questions
so
Susan.
You
have
the
floor.
E
Thank
you
counselor.
My
name
is
Susan
Casino
I
am
part
of
the
city's
zero
waste
team.
I
have
worked
for
the
environment
department
for
the
last
seven
years
on
creating
and
implementing
the
city's
zero
waste
plan
per
the
council's
interest
in
recovering
recyclables
at
large
Boston
venues.
I
can
speak
to
the
recommended
recommended
strategies
stated
in
the
2019
zero
waste
plan
and
some
of
the
Cities
work
to
reduce
commercial
waste
plan
recommends
30
strategies
to
get
to
80
percent
waste
diversion
by
2035..
E
The
council's
interest
in
examining
the
diversion
of
trash
for
the
purpose
of
recovering
recyclables
at
large
Boston
venues
is
in
alignment
with
strategy
21
of
the
zero
waste
plan,
which
recommends
to
and
I
quote,
develop
best
practice
guidelines
and
require
managers
of
large
venues
and
organizers
of
public
events
to
start
implementing
them
end
quote
the
zero
waste
team
has
not
begun
to
implement
this
strategy.
We
are
here
to
listen
to
hear
suggestions
from
the
council
and
invited
guests
about
how
to
move
this
strategy
forward.
E
F
Yep
good
morning
councilor,
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
having
me
sorry,
my
name
is
Josh
altito
I'm,
the
general
superintendent
of
Park
maintenance,
center
of
management
for
the
city
of
Boston
I've
been
with
the
city
for
about
10
years
now,
so
you
guys
know
that
Parks
host
multiple
events
every
year
and
there's
no
question
that
which
ended
a
ton
of
trash-
and
you
know,
welcome
people
from
different
Walk
of
Life
and
from
all
over
the
world.
F
So
we
are
every
day
striving
to
stay
on
top
of
our
trash
removal.
To
make
sure
we
maintain
our
parks
for
everybody
to
enjoy
in
the
city
of
Boston,
recycle
we.
For
short,
we
understand
that
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
Implement
program
in
our
city
parks,
so
we
can
improve
recycling
system.
F
So
we're
looking
forward
to
hear
from
all
of
you
questions
if
I
can
answer
any
questions,
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
providing
more
information.
Thank
you.
So
much.
B
You,
madam
chair,
Susan,
great
to
see
you
strategy.
21
has
not
been
implemented
off
the
topic
in
the
Citywide
Council
and
knowing
all
the
parades
and
the
festivals
do.
We
know
which
ones
sort
of
generate
the
most
by
way
of
potential
recyclable
trash,
whether
it's
the
St
Patrick's
Day
Parade,
the
marathon
Pride
Parade
Dorchester
parade
Etc.
Are
there
any
that
sort
of
stick
out
that
would
say
hey.
We
need
to
engage
strategy
21
to
address
that
and
I
envisioned
sort
of
at
the
end
of
the
parade
celebrations.
B
It's
both
sides
of
the
streets.
It's
public
works
and
scooping
everything
up
and
then
at
the
very
end
they
front
end
load.
It
put
it
into
a
truck
and
then
kind
of
weird
as
it
go,
and
can
we
be
diverting
that?
Can
we
be
separating
that
Etc?
That's
the
Solo
cups
to
the
paper
to
the
rappers
to
the
confetti
Etc.
E
So
we
have
not
tried,
we
have.
We
do
not
have
that
kind
of
data
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
work
that
we
would
need
to
do
with
public
works,
to
see
how
the
coordination,
because
I
know
you
know
the
the
venue
holders
or
the
that
are
organizers-
are
responsible
for
their
waste
at
least
paying
for
it.
So
I
think
that
that
would
be
our
first
step
to
sort
of
get
a
handle.
But
you
named
all
the
big
events
and
those
would
be
included.
E
I
know
that
the
environment
Department
probably
a
couple
of
years
ago
now
or
maybe
a
few
actually
before
the
plan
worked
with
Fenway,
with
the
Red
Sox
to
have
a
a
recycling,
zero
waste
event
at
Fenway
and
I.
Think
that
spurred
part
of
the
incentive
for
including
that
in
the
zero
waste
plan,
but
specifically
there
hasn't
been
a
focus
on
the
event
since
then.
So.
A
Great
thank
you.
Councilor
Flaherty,
Council
Murphy.
C
Sure
Council
of
Flaherty's
last
comment
just
made
me
think
and
also
thinking
back
to
when
we
switched
a
single
stream
and
we're
kind
of
used
to
throwing
it
all
in
together
and
when
you're
at
a
restaurant
or
places
that
have
the
different
barrels
where
it
tells
you
like
waste.
Other
things,
maybe
sometimes
I,
have
to
stop
and
think
I'm
like
wait
is
this
recyclable?
Should
I
put
this
in
the
waist
I
think
the
infograph?
The
pictures
are
really
good.
We
talk
a
lot
when
it
comes
to
like
rodents,
which
is
another
thing.
C
I
know
the
Council
always
agrees
on
when
it
comes
to
trash
and
rodents
that
a
lot
of
it
is.
You
know,
education
and
making
sure
we're
translating
in
different
languages
and
getting
out
to
the
neighborhoods
explaining
like
how
to
re.
You
know,
remove
the
trash
and
then
also
you
talked
about
the
25
recycling.
Is
that
overall,
or
is
that
25
percent
of
the
80
percent
of
the
waste
from
commercial
like?
Does
the
commercial
trash
have
a
25
recycling
rate?
C
C
C
C
Barrel
I
can't
wait
to
get
it
yeah,
so
wondering
if
there's
ways
to
incentivize
commercial
waste
removal.
If
you
have
ideas
that
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
Thank
you,
I
I'd
love
to
drill
down
a
little
more
on
the
25
recycling
rate,
so
of
all
the
the
commercial
and
residential
risks
that
we
generate,
25
were
generated,
we're
recycling,
25
percent
and
the
other
75
doesn't
get
recycled.
It
goes
into
the
landfill
whatever
or
incinerated
whatever.
D
So
during
covert
did
we
notice,
you
know,
I
know
the
recite.
You
know
the
folks
who
take
their
cans
and
get
their
the
Redemption
Center.
You
take
it
and
get
your
money
on
the.
Can
those
centers
closed
during
covert?
Did
we
see
an
uptick
in
in
trash
disposed
in
in
that
time,
like
the
sort
of
stuff
that
would
normally
be
would
be
taken
to
the
Redemption
Center
and
recycled
and
gone?
Did
we
see
any
change
in
that
during
covert,
or
is
that
something?
That's
maybe
so.
E
I
I
can
tell
you
that
to
Public
Works
Credit
and
they
only
handle
residential.
They
have
that
data
and
we're
talking
about
commercial,
the
city,
because
the
city
Only
is
responsible
for
residential.
Not
until
this
zero
waste
plan
had
we
even
tried
to
think
about
how
we
were
going
to
measure
our
performance
in
terms
of
commercial,
because
that
data
isn't
required
to
be
given
into
the
city.
So
one
of
the
another
strategy
is
part
of
the
plan
is
how
to
obtain
that
data
to
measure
performance.
E
D
Yeah
and
in
terms
of
the
commercial
I
know,
I
will
talk
to
our
colleagues
in
the
commercial
and
the
big
venues
Etc
and
the
institutions
in
terms
of
recyclable
containers
and
things
that
is
there
any
impetus
to
try
and
insist
on
on
having
this
materials
that
will
actually
be
will
actually
break
down
like
a
plastic
bottle
can
be
around
for
over
500
years.
Apparently
so,.
E
So
bottom
line
in
terms
of
mandates
is
that
this,
the
Commonwealth
of
Massachusetts,
has
banned
recyclable
materials
from
all
Solid
Waste
facilities.
So
that's
transfer
station
landfills
or
incinerators.
So
we,
the
only
mandate
the
city
of
Boston,
has
is
on
owners
of
large
residential
buildings,
but
bottles
and
cans.
You
know
and
plastic
containers
are
part
of
the
waistband
leaf
and
yard.
Waste
is
part
of
the
waistband,
and
you
may
have
heard
recently
November
1st,
that
textiles
and
mattresses
and
large
Genera
and
generators
of
food
waste.
E
That's
a
half
a
ton
or
more
per
week.
That
material
is
also
banned.
So
in
some
ways
since
since
the
city
is
not
directly
responsible
for
commercial
waste,
those
haulers
and
the
their
customers,
they
are
subject
to
inspection
at
any
of
those
transfer
any
of
the
solid
waste
facilities
and
if
they
have
more
than
de
minimis
amounts
of
any
of
those
materials,
their
loads
can
be
rejected.
E
D
A
E
I
the
state
has
data
on
that
and
they
have
you
know
a
practice
of
how
they
decide
and
I
and
I.
Don't
know
it
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
that's
certainly
information
and,
and
it
used
well.
Yes,
I
don't
have
that
information.
A
Yeah
I've
been
interesting
for
us
to
dig
in
on
more
I
think
you
know,
contamination
if
recycling's
become
such
a
big
issue
just
with
all
the
stuff
that
makes
it
functionally
non-recyclable
recyclable,
that
I
worry
I
I.
Have
this
sense
that
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
institutions
and
I
think
this
probably
happens
from
time
to
time.
A
And
so
it
makes
me
think
that
the
inspections
of
the
transfer
stations
must
not
be
very
regular
or
a
very
large
proportion,
or
else
I
feel
like
I,
would
have
heard
about
huge
numbers
of
trash
bags
being
sent
back
from
all
of
us.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
else
on
that,
but
I
might
just
start.
E
Well,
there's
also
I,
you
know,
there's
value
to
these
recyclables.
You
know
you
won't
see
cardboard
getting
mixed
in
the
trash
you
know
there
there
is.
There
is
incentive
for
commercial
businesses
to
separate
to
decrease
their
recycling
costs.
I
I
mean
that
has
fluctuate,
I
mean
I've,
been
in
this
business
for
decades,
and
it's
only
until
the
last.
E
You
know
10
15
years
that
recycling
has
come
close
to
the
costs
of
trash,
but
at
any
rate
that's
changing
back
too
a
lot
of
DeMent
because
of
of
a
lot
of
domestic
markets
have
come
back
and
they're
continuing.
There
continues
to
be
value
in
in
various
Commodities,
so
the
recycling
I'm
not
sure
where
I
was
going
with
that
point.
But
contamination
is
a
huge
issue.
Even
if
you
go
to
you
know
the
cities
that
are
number
one.
E
If
you
were
in
terms
of
Separation,
if
you
were
asked
to
ask
them
what
the
biggest
problem
is.
It's
contamination,
particularly
in
public
space
recycling
because
there's
no,
you
know
Watchdog
and,
as
as
the
other
counselor
said,
you
know
you
go
to
throw
something
out.
You
have
to
think
about
it.
If
you
look
in
the
recycling
thing
and
you
see
there's
trash
in
it,
you
know,
but
there's
no
money,
it's
difficult
to
Monitor
and
that's
why
we
have
to
really
change
the
culture.
E
A
We
are
here
yeah
and
and
that's
a
great
transition
to
my
question
for
you
Josh,
which
is
just
I'm
sort
of
curious
from
the
Park's
perspective.
A
I
mean
I
would
both
say
that
I've
certainly
noticed
lots
of
places
in
the
Parks
where
we
seem
to
have
trash,
but
no
recycling,
bins
and
then
I
know
that
throughout
the
city
where
we
do
have
recycling
bins,
if
you,
if
you
peek
into
them,
you
often
see
like
pretty
like
a
pretty
similar
mix
to
what
you
might
see
in
the
trash
bin
and
so
I'm
kind
of
curious.
A
How
is
the
department
thinking
about
you
know
decisions
about
where
to
site
recycling
bins,
whether
when
we
you
know
often
when
we
have
those
big
events
like
on
the
parade
ground
in
the
common
we'll
set
up
those
cardboard
kind
of
temporary
trash
cans,
but
again
with
those
I,
don't
always
see
a
recycling
option
so,
but
that
feels
like
a
place
where
maybe
we
could
be
more
intentional,
so
I'm
just
I'm
curious
how
we
think
about
that
and
then
on
the
back
end.
Does
Parks
recycling
get
picked
up
by
PWD?
A
F
We
we
had
a
if
you,
you
know,
pilot
program,
that
we
had
a
contract
with
Coca-Cola
back
in
the
days
to
increase
recycle
in
the
Parks.
But
one
thing
that
we
want
to
is
a
level
of
contamination
so
which
we
couldn't
control,
because
people
will
just
throw
you
know
trash
in
the
recycle
so
and
we
didn't
have
a
staff
for
that.
So
the
main
power
was
an
issue
and
we
couldn't
handle
that.
But
you
see
the
Boston
comments.
F
Sometimes
we
do
have
some
recycle
being
in
the
Boston
company
temporarily,
but
again
with
the
large
event.
What
is
the
Hempfest?
What
is
festival
carnival?
It's
really
really
hard
to
just
focus
on
the
recycle
part
of
it.
So
that's.
Why
that's
why
you
know
taking
step
back
but
I
think
that's
something.
We
need
to
reevaluate
again
as
an
Administration,
so
find
a
way
to
to
have
a
campaign
educate
people
about
the
need
for
recycling
in
our
parks
and
then
Implement
that
slowly
I
think
that
can
be
done.
A
Great
yeah-
and
it
feels
to
me
like
we
could,
especially
with
those
things
where
we're
permitting
and
outside
entity
to
come
in.
You
know,
I,
think
that
asking
those
hosts
of
events
to
be
part
of
a
solution
around
recycling,
like
you,
know,
having
really
clearly
labeled
recycling,
bins,
I
I,
increasingly
think
that,
because
of
the
accommodation
contamination
issue,
you
know
we
probably
do
want
to
even
just
move
to
like
this
is
for
bottles
and
cans.
A
Right
like
this
is
not
for
your
other
stuff
that
you
vaguely
squint
at
and
think
might
be
recyclable
right,
I,
don't
know
I
just
I.
It
feels
as
though
we
put
various
requirements
as
you.
As
you
know,
you
work
on
them
right
with
our
with
the
people
who
pull
permits
with
us,
especially
around
you
know,
treatment
of
the
grass
and
where
they
can
put
tent
poles
and
all
those
kinds
of
things
and
I.
A
Just
wonder
if
we
could
make
a
more
a
more
concerted
effort
at
pushing
them
to
be
partners
with
us
on
recycling
as
well.
I.
F
Think
that's
a
great
idea
so
I'll
take
that
you
know
about
the
decommissioning
and
the
people
of
Park
of
parks
and
then
and
discuss
that,
but
that
should
that
can
be
done
and
that
should
be
done.
You
know
what
is
permitting
and
we
can
include
that
line.
You
know
we're
talking
is
is
required
and
that
can
be
done
and
we
can
hold
in
the
carnival
if
they
don't
do
it.
So
that's
a
really
good
idea:
I.
E
I
could
mention
that
we
do
have
wake
up.
The
Earth
has
historically
been
a
a
waste
event
and
that's
all
dependent
on
volunteers,
but
there
are
certainly
Believers
among
Boston
residents
who
care
about
this,
and
you
know,
typically,
the
organ
organizers
of
wake
up
the
earth
I
mean
they've,
been
doing
it
long
enough
that
they
have
a
crew
and
people
stay
after
the
event
and
their
table
set
up
and
everybody's
doing
it
by
hand,
and
it
becomes
a
fun
way
to
end
the
event
but
yeah
it.
A
Absolutely
and
I
think
yeah.
You
know
we
can't
give
up
on
culture
change
the
reality
is
it
feels
really
hard,
but
you
know
there
was
a
whole
different
orientation
towards
littering
writ
large
in
this
country
decades
ago,
and
we
really
did
move
the
needle
on
that
and
I
think
you
know
trying
to
have
that
same
kind
of
shift
where
people
just
think
like
I
couldn't
possibly
throw
a
recyclable
thing
in
the
trash
you
know
just
because
we
haven't
gotten
there
yet
doesn't
mean
we
can't
get
there.
A
Councilor
Flaherty
I
just
had
to
step
out
briefly,
but
he
had
a
question
which
is
just
you
know
with
out
of
the
30s
you're,
always
things
with
number
21
not
having
been
implemented
yet.
What's
the
can
you
give
this
Council
a
rough
sense
and
we
can
follow
up
later
but
like
out
of
those
30
strategies,
sure
how
many
of
them
are
have
not
sort
of
yet
begun
to
be
like
implemented
versus
how
many
are
kind
of
fully
implemented
like
what's
the
spread
of
that?
Well,.
E
So
one
of
our
first
efforts
has
been
with
the
schools
and
implementing
composting
at
the
schools
and
then
with
food
and
food
waste
and
C
D
I
know
that
the
Chiefs
priority
is
in
terms
of
food
waste,
identifying
food
that
is
still
able
to
feed
people.
E
A
C
Have
we
seen
yet
any
mattresses
being
dumped
around
the
city?
I
know
that
was
a
concern
when
we
knew
that
November
1st
was
looming.
Has
it
been
become
an
issue
yet
where
people
don't
know
where
or
leaving.
E
So
if
you're
talking
about
residential
I
am
yes
I
I
would
refer
that
to
Public
Works.
A
A
C
Have
drop-off
days
for
like
batteries,
drug
drop
off
or
paint
drop
off,
but
making
sure
we're
clear
for
people
to
know
that
there
will
be
places
that
not
feeling
like
there's
never
going
to
be
a
place
to
bring.
It
is
important,
I
think
for
us
to
make
sure
we're.
And
lastly,
you
mentioned
schools
and
I
was
a
BPS
teacher
for
a
few
decades
couple
decades,
so
lots
of
waste
lots
of
waste
in
the
cafeteria
lots
of
paper
that
then
gets
mixed
in
with
trash
and
most
of
the
schools.
C
That
I
am
personally
aware
of
unless
a
teacher
took
on
that
task
of
making
sure
the
separated
recycle
a
lot
of
times.
Classroom
teachers
would
take
their
own
like
the
ream
of
paper
like
the
empty
box
and
use
that
and
then
take
that
box
to
put
in
the
one
or
two
recycle
bins,
but
then
oftentimes
when
it
came
time
to
bring
out
to
the
street
it
got
mixed
in
any
way.
Do
we
have
any
idea
on
if
we're
getting
better
on
separating
out
our
recycling,
the
paper
that
gets
thrown
away
at
our
schools?
E
All
the
schools
have
recycling
programs
and
I
know
that
their
collection
is
part
of
the
residential
collection
as
well,
so
they
get
serviced.
You
know
at
least
once
a
week
in
terms
of
what's
going
on
within
the
schools,
so
I've
been
here
long
enough
too,
to
see
it's.
You
know
when,
when
there
was
a
recycling
coordinator
for
the
schools
it
helped
tremendously.
E
There
is
now
recently
the
schools
have
hired
a
zero
waste
coordinator
and
she
is
focused
on
the
composting,
but
the
recycling
is
part
of
that
as
well
and
I.
Think
that
will
be
very
helpful
in
terms
of
compliance
and
I.
Think
part
of
what
made
BPS
open
to
the
composting
too
was
knowing
that
this
waistband
was
coming
and
that
they
would
need
to
be
in
compliance
with
that.
C
As
well,
yeah
I
think
it
goes
to
what
you
already
said,
Shara
that
you
think
you're
doing
the
right
thing.
It
goes
in
the
trash,
but
then
you
find
out
later
it
ends
up
mixed
with
something
else
or
put
into
the
dumpster.
So
thank
thank
you
chair.
That
was
it
thank.
A
You
counselor,
Murphy
and
I
do
just
want
to
say
from
a
public
service
announcement
perspective
that
bostonians
should
know.
If
you
have
a
mattress
that
you
want
to
get
rid
of,
the
best
thing
would
be
if
you
could
possibly
hold
it
until
the
first
of
the
year
and
then
you
can
actually
call
311
and
the
City
of
Boston
is
going
to
have
a
program
where
you
can
schedule
pickup
of
that
mattress.
A
The
challenge
we're
facing
is
that
we
haven't
quite
gotten
the
contracts
in
line
for
that
to
happen,
yet
so
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
a
weird
in-between
period.
So
if
you
have
a
mattress,
you
can
possibly
hold
on
to
it
until
the
first
of
the
year
and
then
call
3-1-1
to
schedule
an
appointment.
That
would
be
great.
If
you
can't
do
that.
Then
there
are
a
number
of
private
mattress
recyclers.
A
There
are
also
some
places
that
accept
it
for
a
donation,
so
we'd
encourage
you
to
do
that.
But
again,
if
there's
anywhere,
you
can
keep
it
until
the
first
of
the
year
call
311
and
we're
going
to
have
a
pickup
system,
a
reminder
that
we
also
have
a
free
pickup
system
for
textiles
that
you
want
to
recycle.
So
you
can
also
call
311
that
exists
today.
So
just
want
to
flag
that
for
everybody,
because
Council
Murphy
makes
a
good
point
we're
in
a
weird
sort
of
interregnum
between
the
state
law
going
into
effect.
A
On
the
first
of
November,
saying
you
can't
throw
away
mattresses
anymore
and
us
getting
this
new
system
up
to
speed,
but
it
is
coming.
We
are
working
on
it
and
I
think.
Certainly
I
will
register
for
our
institutional
partners
that
everyone
thinking
about
how
they're
handling
mattresses,
which
I
know
the
institutions
are
often
specifically
the
universities
and
the
hospitals
dealing
with
at
a
much
larger
sort
of
to
scale
thing.
We
hope
we
hope
you
all
are
also
working
on
ways
to
comply.
A
The
best
with
that
new
regulation,
all
right,
I
think
those
are
all
the
counselor
questions
for
the
administration
and
I'm.
Very
mindful
of
all
the
folks.
We've
got
waiting
to
join
us.
So
I
want
to
thank
you,
both
Josh
and
Susan,
for
being
with
us
today.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
all
your
work
and
Josh,
you
know
it's
funny.
I
I
saw
that
you
were
coming
to
speak
with
us
and
I
thought.
A
You
know,
I
have
a
thousand
things
I
want
to
ask
Josh
about,
but
they're
most
of
them
are
technically
in
counselor
Lara's
Parks
committee
remit,
but
but
we're
really
grateful
to
you
for
keeping
so
many
of
the
parks
in
my
district
and
throughout
the
city.
Looking
so
wonderful,
so
thank.
A
Then
Susan,
thank
you
so
much
for
this
long
outstanding
work
on
zero
waste.
So
thank
you
to
you
both
and
we.
So
we
will
have
I'm
just
going
to
read
the
names
of
the
panelists
who
have
got
on
my
list
and
then
and
we'll
have
you
all
come
up.
A
I
think
I
think
what
we'll
do
I
think,
maybe
just
to
simplify
Logistics,
because
we're
not
overrun
with
counselors
today,
we'll
have
maybe
all
of
you
come
up
and
then
and
just
and
take
these
four,
but
then
also
take
these
three
over
here
and
then
I
can
go
to
people,
but
just
to
note
that
what
I'm
going
to
do,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
with
us,
is
just
ask
people
for
a
really
sort
of
brief
opening
statements
and
and
then
we'll
get
into
questions
and
conversation,
because
that
seems
likely
to
be
more
generative.
A
I
also
want
to
flag
that,
while
we're
not
joined
by
Boston
University
today,
they
did
send
a
statement
and
I'll
read
that
into
the
record
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
But
we're
going
to
be
lucky
to
be
joined
here
today
by
Stephen
boxansky
from
the
mass
chapter
of
Beverage
Association
government
relations
and
we've
got
Deirdre
Manning.
So
folks
hear
your
names,
you
can
just
come
up
and
grab
one
of
these
seats
and
when
we
fill
these
seats
consider
over
here
and
if
you're
with
somebody,
you
can
kind
of
lurk
behind
them.
A
So
we've
got
Deirdre
Manning
from
the
Massachusetts
Convention
Center
Authority
bcca,
their
energy
and
sustainability
manager.
We've
got
Evan
Harwood
from
the
building
services
manager,
also
for
the
MCCA
and
then
Robin
Pacini,
the
manager
from
the
Boston
Red
Sox,
Andrew,
McFadden
manager
for
the
TD
Garden
Bruce,
Dixon
sustainability
and
energy
management
for
Boston
College
and
Regina
Bolivia.
Also
landscape,
Services,
Boston
College.
So
if
I
can
have
the
like
institutions
stick
together,
so
great
excellent,
all
right.
A
H
Good
morning,
chair
Bach
members
of
the
council
and
staff
and
guests,
my
name
is
Steve
boxanski
I'm
here
today,
as
the
executive
director
of
the
Massachusetts
beverage
Association
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
in
support
of
GeForce
waste
disorders.
We
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
H
H
These
brands
have
all
made
commitments
to
start
using
more
and
more
recycled
content
in
their
containers
in
the
near
future.
There
are
some
bottles
that
are
out
there
now
that
are
including
recycled
content.
The
reason
we
came
here
today
to
support
Michelle
and
G-Force
waste
orders
is
because
we're
not
able
to
get
enough
recycled
plastic
back
in
order
to
meet
those
goals.
So
if
the
Coca-Cola
company
wants
to
use
25
recycled
content
in
all
their
bottles
by
2030,
we
need
to
get
a
lot
more
of
that
material
back.
H
H
H
Currently,
a
lot
of
the
bottles
end
up
as
part
of
carpet
shoe
wear
fleece
materials
a
lot
of
different
uses,
but
we
also
want
to
get
more
of
that
stuff
back
more
Supply
back,
so
the
bottlers
themselves
can
get
more
of
it
back
and
and
turn
that
recycled
plastic
into
new
bottles.
H
Our
association
in
2012
started
the
Massachusetts
recycling
challenge,
which
is
a
small
project
that
has
supported
a
number
of
different
things:
we've
supported
workshops
to
teach
best
practices
to
cities
and
towns
in
their
recycling
coordinators.
We've
supported
numerous
public
space
recycling
projects,
including
along
the
mbta's
red
line
from
Alewife
down
into
down
down
into
Charles
MGH,
and
the
last
couple
Summers
we've
supported
an
awareness
campaign
on
Cape
Cod,
digital
advertising
campaign
to
promote
awareness
about
Recycling
and
litter
prevention
at
the
national
level.
H
The
15
gallon
bins
up
to
the
96
gallon
toters,
with
the
lid
in
the
wheels,
so
the
the
towns
paid
for
most
of
that,
but
American
Beverage,
Association
shipped
in
quite
a
bit
to
help
help
them
get
there.
So
our
industry
understands
we
have
a
responsibility
to
play
a
role
in
making
sure
these
containers
do
not
end
up
as
litter.
We
don't
want
to
see
them
on
the
streets
on
the
parks.
H
We
also
don't
want
to
see
them
ending
up
in
the
trash,
so
they're
going
into
a
linfel
or
incinerator,
so
we're
here
to
support
G-Force
waste
orders
and
and
really
other
ways
to
get
more
bottles
back
and
while
there's
no
Silver
Bullet
to
answer
this
tricky
challenge,
we
do
believe
this
is
a
good
opportunity
that
could
have
a
significant
impact.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
and
support
support,
GeForce
waste
disorders.
Thank
you.
A
Great.
Thank
you
so
much
Stephen
Deirdre,
Manning
and
Evan
Harwood
from
fcca.
I
I
just
wanted
to
start
giving
a
bit
of
background
I
have
a
background
as
an
energy
economic
regulator
and
then
switch
to
working
for
both
Boston
College
and
Smith
college
in
their
sustainability
programs
and
now
feel
a
similar
role
at
the
convention.
Center
Authority
So,
based
on
what
I've
been
hearing
so
far
today,
I
wanted
to
remind
people
that
reduce
reuse.
Recycle
is
the
order
that
people
should
be
focusing
on
so
reducing
waste
so
that
you
don't
need
to
reuse
it
or
recycle.
I
It
is
obviously
you
know
something
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
if
your
end
result
is
having
fewer
things,
either
be
incinerated
or
go
through
the
recycling
process.
I
I
wanted
to
mention
that
creating
markets
is
really
important
and
the
capitalist
Society,
where
we
work
and
live
so
to
the
extent
that
the
city
can
focus
on
making
sure
that
there
are
end
users
who
will
create
a
revenue
stream
for
the
things
that
people
no
longer
need
or
want
reducing.
Overall
costs
for
your
Solid,
Waste
or
recycling
programs
is
important,
but
if
there's
a
potential
for
a
revenue
stream,
then
that
is
something
that
I
think
will
get
more
people
engaged.
I
So
you
have
a
group
of
people
who
want
to
do
the
right
thing:
Millennials
people
who
are
older
care
about
the
environment,
but
if
somebody's
going
to
save
a
dollar
that
typically
gets
people
motivated
to
help
you
on
sort
of
the
ground
up
part
of
your
problem,
I
also
want
to
mention
textiles.
Now,
recently,
our
band
from
landfill
people
don't
know
that
stuffed
animals
can
be
thrown
into
those
bins
and
you
can
use
them
to
make
carpet
had
so
the
extent
that
there's
a
place
where
those
things
can
go.
I
You'll
find
it
a
much
easier
lift
to
get
your
programs
up
off
the
ground,
recycled,
glasses
now
used
in
Asphalt,
so
again
creating
and
then
Market
is
really
important.
As
a
former
energy
economic
regulator,
I
have
seen
that
government
can
play
a
role
in
policy
looking
at
way
back
when
when
you
would
have
a
toilet
that
would
be
flushed
and
four
gallons
of
water
would
go
down
now.
I
I
think
you're
required
to
use
something
with
1.2
gallons,
so
thinking
along
those
lines
when
it
comes
to
recycling,
creating
a
market
is
sort
of
your
best
way
forward
and
then
having
some
sort
of
policy
to
support
that
or
even
support
the
creation
of
markets,
as
we've
seen,
is
super
important
and
then
getting
to
counselor
box
point
of
culture
change
I
feel
it's
really
important
to
engage
the
community
here.
We're
talking
about
commercial
waste.
I
So
if
you're
working
with
companies
that
have
offices
in
Boston
in
working
with
their
human
resources
department
to
have
onboarding
include
a
component
of
what
the
culture
is
in
the
organization
about
recycling
or
reusing,
would
be
super
helpful
and
then,
with
what
councilor
Murphy
said,
I
have
found
that
it's
critical.
It's
certainly
a
long-term
strategy.
If
you're
working
with
K1
students,
which
Ms
Murphy
is
familiar
with,
including
my
very
own
daughter.
I
If
you
get
children
engaged
in
the
importance
of
climate
and
Recycling
and
not
waste,
they
may
even
go
home
and
teach
their
parents
a
thing
or
two,
but
if
we
don't
have
students
early
on
learning
that
this
is
the
way
that
we
do
things.
People
in
communities
in
the
Pacific,
Northwest
and
Northern
California
they've
been
drinking
the
Kool-Aid
for
a
long
time
and
if
you're,
looking
at
the
city
of
San,
Francisco,
their
residential
recycling
rate
or
maybe
their
overall
Municipal
recycling
rate
is
something
in
the
low
70s.
I
And
so
when
you
look
at
Boston
as
25
percent,
there's
a
huge
Delta
and
room
for
improvement.
There
I
also
wanted
to
say,
in
terms
of
the
city
looking
to
sort
of
foster,
the
creation
of
green
teams
in
businesses
get
people
involved
in
the
workplace.
That
will
certainly
help
with
the
end
result
that
you're
looking
for
I
would
also
point
you
to
the
mass
saves
program
for
all
of
the
things
that
they
do
for
community
outreach
to
reach
marketized
communities,
communities
where
English
is
a
second
language.
I
That's
another
place
where
the
city
can
focus
its
efforts
to
improve
the
overall
diversion
rate
of
both
commercial
and
residential
trash
and
solid
waste.
I
would
also
add
a
few
points
for
what
can
be
done
in
terms
of
around
the
city
as
a
city
resident
having
working
water
fill
stations
will
encourage
people
to
bring
a
reusable
bottle.
I
We
don't
sort
of
like
to
use
the
stick
as
opposed
to
the
carrot
in
terms
of
policies,
but
having
that
as
part
of
something
where,
if
somebody
gets
fined
for
doing
something,
that's
not
allowed
and
then
maybe
having
a
publicity
campaign
around
that
not
looking
to
shame
people,
but
if
that
might
be
something
that
gets
people
to
sort
of
cooperate.
That
might
be
something
that
you're
considered.
I
also
wanted
to
mention.
I
I
had
the
opportunity
when
I
was
visiting
family
in
San
Francisco
to
meet
with
the
person
who
oversaw
the
sustainability
program
at
San,
Francisco,
International,
Airport
and
I
was
really
fascinated
with
what
they
did
there,
because
you
can't
really
have
much
in
the
way
of
signage,
because
wayfinding
is
the
most
important
thing
that
you
need
in
an
airport.
People
need
to
get
to
the
right
gate.
They
don't
want
to
miss
their
flight.
I
They
also
come
from
all
over
the
world,
and
so
people
recycle
different
things
in
different
parts
of
the
world,
so
they
won't
know
what
happens
to
be
recycled
or
reused
in
San
Francisco.
So
what
they
did
is
they
narrowed
in
on
creating
opportunities
within
the
vendors
there,
so
you
can't
buy
something
at
the
airport
that
can't
be
recycled,
so
you
might
have
somebody
come
through
with
a
boiled
egg
from
home
and
a
plastic
Ziploc
bag
that
bag
really
can't
be
recycled,
there's
no
place
where
it'll
end
up
in
the
trash.
I
They
have
a
very
high
contamination
rate,
but
everything
that
is
thrown
in
the
trash
at
the
San
Francisco
Airport
ends
up
going
to
a
commercial
composting
facility.
So
that's
sort
of
an
out
of
the
box
way
of
looking
at
well.
Here's
a
big
problem.
You
can't
address
the
community
aspect,
but
you
can
find
ways
around
it
and
then
I
wanted
to
mention.
We've
got
a
couple
of
programs
at
the
convention
center
and
Evan.
I
My
colleague
knows
all
of
the
details
of
some
amazing
things
that
we've
been
able
to
do
with
an
Engaged
group
of
people
specifically
on
Greenbelt,
which
came
to
Boston
not
once
but
twice
and
I
would
like
to
hand
it
over
to
Evan.
He
can
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
all
the
things
that
we
can
do
at
the
convention
center.
J
J
To
an
earlier
point.
We
actually
decided
to
start
separating
our
waste
stream
on
site
within
our
building
as
a
way
to
increase
our
diversion
rate.
So
we
have
a
designated
cardboard
compactor,
a
designated
co-mingle
recycling.
We
bail
our
own
plastic
on
site,
C
dumpsters
and
then
obviously
your
your
normal
waste.
One
of
the
largest
components
for
us
is
obviously
food
food
waste
and
we
have
a
whole
back
of
house
composting
program
that
that
we
utilize
as
well.
J
So
if
you
think
for
the
past
15
years,
we've
been
fortunate
enough
to
have
the
majority
of
our
staff
stay,
so
training
was
was
a
big
component
in
refresher.
Training
is
still
a
big
component
to
to
you
know,
keep
keep
the
the
staff
fresh
in
the
programs
running
say
at
our
building.
We
hover
right
around
50
as
a
as
a
diversion
rate
throughout
the
whole
year,
but
it
does.
J
It
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
effort
and
a
lot
of
training,
but
as
the
largest
building
in
New
England,
it's
obviously
very
important
for
us
to
do
our
part
in
divert
as
much
waste
as
we
can
to
deirdre's
point.
We
did
host
green,
build
at
our
building
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
learned
were
it's
more
of
a
culture
like
their
culture,
their
language,
how
they
talk,
how
they,
the
signage
that
they
put
around
their
buildings,
is
completely
different
than
what
than
what
we
had.
J
So
we
were
able
to
learn
quite
a
bit
also
controlling
your
inputs.
What
is
allowed
to
be
brought
into
that
show
the
vendor
buying
they
have
exhibitor
buying,
for
you
know,
I'm
not
going
to
bring.
You
know
melamine
in
I'm,
going
to
bring
something
that
I
can
recycle
or
something
that
can
be
reused
when
green
build
was
on
site
with
their
program
specific.
To
that
event,
we
were
I
think
around
92
percent.
J
They
had
three
bin
clusters
around
the
building
and
volunteers,
instructing
people
who
came
to
the
show
of
where
to
put
things
so
that
they
could
be
properly
diverted.
So,
to
deirdre's
point
earlier,
with,
with
kids
in
school
it'd
be
a
great
Target
to
start
setting
up
some
programs
and
start
with
with
the
youth
to
get
that
culture
and
get
that
language
integrated
into
that
kind
of
everyday
fabric.
J
You
think
of
San
Francisco
Denver,
you
know
Seattle
San
Diego,
that's
all
been
going
on
out
there
and
part
of
the
reason
why
their
diversion
rates
are
probably
a
lot
higher
than
ours
is.
Is
that
buy-in?
But
again,
thank
you
for
for
having
me
today.
This
is
a
great
conversation
to
obviously
learn
from
and
to
talk
about.
K
I
was
gonna
say,
but
so
I
work
with
waste
management
and
airmark
for
our
recycling
waste
program,
as
well
as
the
MGM
Music
Hall,
who
I'll
be
here
speaking
on
behalf
of
since
we
share
one
compactor,
one
trash
compact
or
one
recycling
compact
between
the
two
buildings
on
average,
between
the
two
abilities,
we
see
roughly
40
000
different
patrons
a
night.
K
The
only
accounts
that
only
accounts
for
a
quarter
of
the
trash
in
the
park
throughout
the
park
of
150
trash
and
recycling
bins
placed
together
with
the
understanding
that
fans
want
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
sometimes
it's
unclear
where
those
items
can
go.
We
don't
we
do
not
expect
them
to
get
it
right.
Every
time
there
has
to
be
a
better
way
that
we
can
get
into
those
trash,
bins
and
sort
through
them.
K
We
have
done
many
post-game
waste
swords
over
the
last
six
years
that
I've
been
at
the
Red
Sox
six
or
to
ten
per
season.
We've
tried
to
do
resulting
in
60
to
70
percent
diversion
rate
from
those
trash
bins
that
we've
pulled
from.
K
We
usually
have
15
to
20
workers
ready
at
a
station
to
open
trash
bags.
Weigh
those
trash
bags
go
through
the
bags
sort,
the
recycling
sort,
the
food
waste
into
appropriate
containers
and
weigh
freeway
them
all
the
containers
at
the
end
of
the
see
exactly
where
what
we
diverted
this
process
takes
about
seven
to
nine
hours
after
every
game
and,
as
you
might
have
seen,
a
Red
Sox
game
can
be
7
P.M
to
midnight
and
then
one
o'clock
the
next
day.
K
A
You
thank
you
Robin
and
then
we've
got
I'm
just
gonna
finish.
The
round.
I'm
gonna
do
Andrew
McFadden
from
tdguard
good.
L
Morning,
thank
you
for
having
me
appreciate
the
opportunity.
The
general
manager
at
TD,
Garden
I've,
been
there
for
10
years.
Obviously,
Bruins
Celtics
very
passionate
about
trying
to
improve
our
sustainability.
A
lot
of
our
efforts
have
really
been
focused
on
the
energy
HVAC
lighting,
we're
basically
95
LED,
and
a
lot
of
our
Focus
has
primarily
been
on
the
the
Utility
side,
but
in
2016
we
renovated
our
loading
dock
and
were
able
to
implement
single
stream
recycling
similar
to
the
Red
Sox
in
the
convention
center.
L
It's
a
challenge,
logistical
challenge,
significant
labor
and
Union
environment,
challenging
from
a
volunteer
standpoint,
so
again
grateful
to
be
here
and
grateful
to
hopefully
collaborate
and
partner
with
all
of
you
to
improve.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
then
we've
got
Bruce
Dixon
from
Boston
College,
the
sustainability
and
energy
management
specialist
and
then
Regina
Bolivia,
the
director
of
landscape,
Services,
Mr
Dixon.
Thank.
M
You,
madam
Kim,
good
morning,
everyone
and
good
morning,
councilors
Austin
College,
uses
save
that
stuff
located
in
Charlestown
supporting
a
Boston,
Waste
Management
contractor
to
manage
trash
and
recycling
materials
from
our
campus
on
game
day.
M
My
process
starts
before
the
season
starts.
The
athletic
department
sends
an
email
communication
about
our
sustainability
policies
and
processes
to
season
ticket
holders
on
Game,
Day,
Labs
parking
attendance,
distribute
trash
recycling
bags
and
info
kits
to
each
car
entering
a
designated
tail
spot
tailgating
spot
my
office,
the
office
of
sustainability
manages
the
green
ambassador
program,
paid
students
and
volunteers
engaged
in
person
without
fans
to
educate
and
promote
sustainable
behaviors
during
tailgating,
and
while
the
game
is
in
progress
in
Alumni,
Stadium
I.
N
Good
morning
just
to
follow
up
on
Bruce,
that's
the
pregame
kind
of
process
that
we
have
in
place,
but
the
in-game
process
is
that
we
so
we
distribute
these
kits
to
each
tailgate
Patron
that
comes
and
they
have
the
opportunity
and
they
have
a
little
sheet
that
tells
them
what
they
should.
You
know
what
they
should
recycling
what's
trash
and
they
have
the
separate
bags
for
it
when
they
go
into
the
stadium.
N
We
have
two
rear,
end
compactors
come
through
and
our
staff
goes
through
and
they
you
know
the
staff,
that's
pulling
blue
bags,
the
staff
that
pulling
trash
bags
and
goes
in
the
appropriate
compactor.
So
when
the
tailgaters
come
back
out,
they
have
another
set.
If
this
post
game
tailgating
they
have
enough
set
of
bags
and
our
state,
you
know
their
area
is
clean
and
they
go
and
they
you
know
they
tailgate
more.
N
When
they
leave
campus,
we
have
four
30
yard
containers
dropped
at
on
campus
two
for
recycling
two
for
trash
and
our
staff
goes
through
and
does
the
same
thing
collects
everything
from
inside
the
stadium
from
outside
the
stadium
and
goes
into
those
those
appropriate
containers.
On
a
on
a
daily
basis,
we
strive
hard
to
to
do
Recycling
and
when
Deirdre
was
with
us
years
ago,
started
one
for
one
trash
and
recycling
containers
not
only
inside
the
buildings
but
outside
on
campus.
N
So
my
staff
goes
around
and
we
have
a
what
I
call
a
transfer
station
at
our
300
Hammond
fun,
Parkway
campus,
where
we
have
C
and
D
waste
container.
We
have
a
trash,
Recycling
yard
waste,
so
we're
really
trying
to
do
it
at
all.
All
at
some
level
lots
of
improvement
can
be,
can
be
made,
but
we're
making
a
big
effort
and
we're
lucky
at
a
university
that
you
know
the
students
are
really
they
have
that
culture.
You
know
they're
they're
interested
in
doing
the
right
thing.
N
A
Great,
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
to
everybody
for
those
informative,
but
brief
statements.
Just
because
we've
got
so
many
guests
here,
I'll
go
down
to
start
with
the
again
with
the
sponsor
counselor
Flaherty,
and
then
customer
can.
B
Come
back
here
we
see
just
a
quick
comment,
obviously
appreciate
the
spirit
of
cooperation
and
the
willingness
to
to
sort
of
do
better,
I
guess
and
to
partner
with
the
city
and
to
get
that
buy-in
and
to
identify
best
practices
or
shared
practices,
and
whether
that's
finding
some
technology
or
a
piece
of
equipment
that
might
work
for
the
socks
that
they
can
lend
to
the
Bruins
and
Celtics
that
they
could
lend
to
the
convention
center
I
mean
that's
sort
of
what
I'm
sort
of
sensing
right
now
that
there's
a
willingness
and
a
spirit
here
that
we
can
and
must
do
better
in
that
you
know
short
of
some
of
the
complications
and
around
spacing
and
sort
of
the
labor
piece
Etc,
and
that
was
it
was
not
just
the
other
day.
B
I
think
there
was
a
Bruins
game,
followed
by
immediately
Celtics
game.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
you
could
even
get
the
place
up
to
shape
by
the
next
by
the
next,
by
the
time
that
the
the
next
set
of
fans
come
in.
But
so
those
are
obviously
the
challenges.
Late
games,
doubleheaders
Etc,
so
as
well
as
the
convention
center.
B
Encouraging
the
convention
groups
to
come
in
to
to
think
about
what
they're
bringing
in
ahead
of
time
and,
as
you
know,
there's
a
sort
of
a
two
three
day
setup
where
there's
got
to
be
cans
and
boxes
and
things
everywhere.
So
but
again,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
again
I
appreciate
the
the
spirit
of
cooperation
and
look
forward
to
getting
some
public
testimony
to
see
if
there's
any
other
best
practices
out
there.
Thank.
C
Council
Murphy,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
those,
informative
introductions
and
I
I
mean
I
knew
it
was
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
definitely
appreciate
when
you
spelled
out
the
seven
to
nine
hours,
the
man
hours
that
are
put
in
after
a
convention
after
Red
Sox
game.
You
know
you
think,
when
you're
leaving
a
plane
right,
a
small
plane
and
they're
already
on
the
plane
cleaning
when
you're
trying
to
leave
thinking
of
just
40
000
people
a
night.
It's
a
huge
task,
but
I
keep
hearing
time
and
time
again
from
everyone.
C
Here,
it's
sustainability,
it's
diversion
it's
education,
so
you
have,
and
you
have
the
numbers
right.
You
know
that
you're
getting
better
and
that
we
just
need
to.
So
how
can
we,
as
a
council
support
if
it's
putting
like
you
said?
Is
it
the
stick
or
the
carrot
policies
in
place
to
support
all
of
these
big
venues
across
the
city
and
I
was
also
happy
to
hear
because
I
mentioned
it
earlier.
That
signage
is
huge
for
all
of
you
right
it's.
C
So
it's
not
just
me
when
I
at
the
store
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
which
spot
to
put
it
in
that
everyone,
like
you
said
most
people
want
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
then
you're
a
little
confused,
which
one
do
I
put
it
into
and
to
get
to
the
schooling,
the
education
and
I
know
the
previous
panelists.
The
administration
talked
about.
We
went
from
a
recycling
coordinator
to
a
compost
coordinator
at
our
schools,
which
is
great,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
it
in
our
curriculum.
C
We
need
to
be
teaching
our
students
a
curriculum
if
it's
during
science
class
or
if
that
coordinator,
is
also
a
teacher
or
an
aide
who
is
actually
teaching
the
children
in
kindergarten
all
the
way
through
how
to
divert
how
to
coordinate
and
come
up
with
ways
to
recycle.
There's
always
you
know
in
certain
schools.
You
know
certain
classrooms
that
kind
of
take
that
on
themselves,
and
they
always
do
that
amazing
job
where
they're
recycling
better
than
everyone
else,
and
you
wonder
how
do
we
get
that
to
a
bigger
scale?
C
So
the
will
is
there
and
how
can
we
support
to
make
it?
You
know
these
bigger
venues,
which
I
do
appreciate
on
Council
of
Flaherty
wrote
this
order
specifically
around
these
bigger
venues,
not
just
the
house
waste
which
we
also.
You
talked
about
Millennials
I'll
end
on
this.
My
son
is
a
a
millennial
and
definitely
when
he
made
sure
that
we
had
two
barrels,
we
weren't
using
a
small
recyclable.
C
One
is
right
next
to
each
other,
so
there's
always
recyclable
in
one,
it's
not
smaller
than
the
regular
trash
barrel,
and
it
just
makes
it
so
much
easier.
Sometimes
those
simple
things
are
just
putting
something
in
place
in
your
kitchen
in
your
house
somewhere
in
the
right
place,
so
that
no
one
has
the
excuse
to
just
not
do
it,
and
then
it
becomes
habit.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank.
A
You
councilor
Murphy
I
had
a
few
questions.
One
was
just
Andrew.
If
you
could
just
speak
to
what
is
the
garden's
diversion
rate?
Do
you
guys
attract
up?
We.
L
Do
track
it,
it's
approximately
apologize
for
the
delay,
it's
approximately
16
right
now:
okay,
we
generate
the
stats,
updated
here,
641
tons
of
trash
annually
and
we're
currently
recycling
about
100
tons
of
that.
A
So
I
mean
in
a
spirit
of
a
little
friendly
competition,
I
heard
25
from
the
Red
Sox
and
again,
both
are
in
my
district
so
and
BC
I
know
you
mentioned
the
37
to
39
for
the
games
just
for
our
reference.
What
is
it
for
the
campus
overall?
Okay.
A
So
it's
so
you've
gotten
pretty
close
to
the
campus
average
with
the
games
got
it
and
then
MCCA
Fenway
and
the
garden
do
any
of
you
do
like
do
any
of
you
have
a
formal
policy
around
inputs
control
like
where
you're
making
sure
that
the
things
that
you
that
you
know
you're
offering
for
patrons
are
are
things
that
can
be
easily
recycled.
As
you
mentioned,
Deirdre
I'm
just
curious,
whether
to
what
extent
we've
implemented
that
certainly
I
know
that
there
are
places
that
have
shifted
at
what
you
know.
A
I
appreciate
that
and
it'd
be
interesting,
also
to
hear
from
from
you
Mr
Brooks
kaski
about
you
know,
there's
the
question
of
moving
to
more
recycled
plastic.
There's.
Also
the
question
of
moving
more
to
cans
like
I
know,
there's
been
a
move
towards
canned
water
as
a
as
a
more
recyclable
thing
and
I'm
just
curious.
A
I
Sure
I
can
speak
to
that.
We
work
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
depending
on
what
the
client
is
interested
in
and
then
we
have
a
whole
host
of
solutions
that
can
meet
just
about
every
need.
So
in
terms
of
what
you're
driving
at
I
would
say,
the
Pacific
Northwest
would
be
the
convention
centers
that
actually
outright
ban
certain
things,
but
that's
not
the
way
we
operate.
We
look
to
provide
services
that
the
client
is
asking
for,
but.
A
A
Kitchen
and
yeah
family.
K
The
Music
Hall
only
can
do
cans
unless
it's
like
a
an
alcoholic
beverage,
in
which
case
it's
a
compost,
Cup
right,
so
they
are
taking
a
step
heading
away
from
a
step
ahead
of
Fenway
Fenway,
unfortunately,
is
kind
of
constrained
by
sponsorship.
Deals
sure
you
might
have
the
same
issue
where
Coke
only
wants
the
bottles
in
there,
because
they
want
to
recycle
the
bottles
that
way,
they're
100
using
the
same
bottle
every
time
when
they
recycle.
So
there
is
some
constraints
that
we
have
due
to
sponsorship
for
to
make
a
formal
policy.
A
K
A
What
is
the
I
mean?
That's
very
interesting
to
me,
because
I
mean
I
and
I
will
say,
like
I
am
pretty
interested
in
this
extended
producer
responsibility
question
and
how
we
make
you
know
folks,
folks
from
your
industry,
really
be
as
heavily
in
this
game
as
possible
right
so
clearly,
Coke,
probably
because
of
the
type
of
commitments
they're
making
has
committed
to
a
program
where
they're
spending
some
extra
money
on
the
back
end
to
find
those
bottles.
A
You
know
from
a
public
perspective
if
somebody's
picking
through
that
trash
anyways,
it
seems
frankly
insane
if
they're
leaving
behind
all
the
bottles
but
taking
the
Coke
bottles.
I
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
whether
the
industry's
thought
about
a
little
coordination
on
that
presumably
Coke
could
maybe
make
a
new
Coke
bottle
with
some
plastic
from
Pepsi
I.
Don't
know.
H
H
So
those
that's
why
you
see
most
of
our
products
in
those
containers.
Aluminum
is
super
recyclable.
So
is
the
pet
I'm
not
sure
about
specific
programs,
I
I,
it's
my
understanding
that
Coca-Cola
could
take
a
Pepsi
bottle
as
long
as
the
labels
probably
stripped
off,
but
pet
is
pet
and
that's
a
standard.
That's
a
standard
commodity
that
could
be
used.
You
could
mix
all
those
different
bottles
together.
It
doesn't
matter
about
brand,
so
aluminum
can
all
go
together.
Pet
can
all
go
together.
A
Yeah,
so
it
would
be
interesting
and
maybe
we
could
follow
up
separately
with
the
Red
Sox.
It
would
just
be
interesting
to
understand
what
the
back
end
of
that
kind
of
operation
is
and
whether
there
was
any
way
because
again
it's
like
you
know.
If,
if
we
needed
to
just
get,
you
know
some
stakeholders
to
say
yeah,
we
want
to
join
Coke
and
doing
this,
I
mean
it
just.
It
seems
like
having
your
folks
do.
Nine
hours
of
labor
on
site
is.
It
is
a
real
challenge,
logistically
and
and
I'm
all
about,
like.
A
A
L
So,
approximately
three
years
ago
we
did
try
to
initiate
implementing
devices
or
canisters,
if
you
will
for
folks
to
consume
our
food
and
beverage
that
were
compostable
compostable
and
they
weren't.
Basically,
we
would
put
french
fries
in
them
and
we
had
a
lot
of
people
get
burnt
by
hot
food.
I.
Think
that's
one
area
that
I'd
love
to
partner
with
folks
in
this
room
and
figure
out
a
lot
of
our
waste
is
tonnage
and
it's
contaminated
waste,
whether
we're
trying
to
recycle
or
not.
L
If
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
reasonably
logistically
operationalize
a
composting
program,
I
think
that
would
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone:
it
would
decrease
our
waste
tonnage
but
also
front
end
pick
out
a
lot
of
that
recyclable
material.
It's
just
again
in
this
in
a
space
constraint,
not
a
good
excuse
but
just
being
transparent.
It
we've
tried
it.
It's
been
relatively
unsuccessful
from
a
composting
standpoint.
It
also
brings
some
other
sanitization
issues,
Pest
Control,
being
one
of
them.
L
So
that's
an
area
where
we'd
love
to
to
partner
with
folks
in
this
room,
to
figure
out
how
we
could
Implement
something.
That's
realistic,
another
opportunity
where
we're
just
recently
going
on
a
pilot
with
is
kind
of
a
AI
waste
stream.
We
have
over
300
trash
and
recycling
receptacles
in
the
garden
they're
all
next
to
each
other,
Fleet
they're,
all
clearly
labeled
purposely.
L
But
this
you
know
when
fans
have
had
a
couple
of
adult
beverages
to
get
them
to
comply,
can
oftentimes
be
like
managing
and
wrangling
toddlers.
So
there
is
a
technology,
ironically
called
Oscar
that
essentially
kind
of
like
facial
recognition
will
be
able
to
pull
out
and
say:
oh
you're,
throwing
a
cup
into
the
trash
that
goes
into
the
recycle
bin,
where
we
just
got
approval
to
go
ahead
with
that.
Well,
certainly,
once
it's
off
the
ground
would
follow
up
with
the
committee
and
welcome
anyone
to
come
and
take
a
look
at
it.
L
L
L
N
I,
don't
think
we
control
anything
in
terms
of
you
know
what
what's
allowed
in
the
venue
to
be
distributed.
We
do
do
composting
at
our
dining
facilities
and
at
some
level
at
res
halls,
but
at
Big
venues.
It's.
We
just
haven't
we'd
love
to
partner
and
figure
out
a
way,
but
we've
not
gotten
there
yet.
A
Okay,
Council
Flaherty,
okay,
well,
yeah
I
would
just
say
you
know:
we've
got
some.
We've
got
some
great
operations
Minds
in
this
room
right
now
and
I
think
you
know,
I
do
think
that
it
is
on
all
of
us
at
the
different
levels
of
the
legislature.
A
Both
you
know
here
at
the
municipal
level,
up
at
the
State
House
to
to
to
think
about
the
programs
that
sort
of
really
Drive
incentives
and
requirements
like
that
regulatory
side
is
on
us,
but
I
also
think
that
I
think
that
all
of
the
all
of
the
entities
that
run
these
major
venues
have
you
know
Corporate
social
responsibility
commitments
I,
certainly
hear
about
them,
both
vis-a-vis
Red,
Sox
and
the
garden.
Obviously
we
talk
about
them
at
the
universities
and
non-profit.
The
MCCA
is
an
arm
of
the
state
government.
A
All
of
our
all
of
our
entities
are,
you
know,
sort
of
supposedly
and
formally
committed
to
really
like
upping
these
rates
right
and
so
just
you
know,
short
of
short
of
us
sort
of
like
forcing
everybody
to
like
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
folks
would
be
having
a
conversation
about.
You
know:
hey.
We
control
our
universe,
like
you
guys
are.
A
A
Okay,
I
just
have
a
couple
yeah
of
course
I've
got.
So
if
you
don't
have
any
any
further
questions.
A
Okay,
I
might
just
take
I
just
got
two
folks
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
them.
If
it's
all
right,
I'll
just
leave
everybody
in
their
seats
for
a
moment,
take
the
public
testimony
and
then
we'll
just
check.
If
there's
any
further
closing
statements
from
any
counselors
and
then
we'll
wrap
up,
so
I've
got
Michelle
Gainey
from
GeForce
waste.
A
I'm.
Sorry
I
can't
read
the
last
word
sorters:
okay,
did
you
force
waste
sorters
and
then
I've
got
again
as
mentioned:
State
Rep
Rob
consalbo
14th
Suffolk.
Well,
you
are
welcome
to
take
that
seat.
We
have
a
standing
Podium,
but.
G
No
I'll
be
very
brief.
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
having
this
hearing
today
and
I
want
to
thank
Council
Flaherty,
my
great
friend
for
authoring
this
hearing
order
and
to
council
Murphy
and
councilor
Braden
for
their
interest.
For
the
record.
G
My
name
is
Rob
consolvo
state
representative
for
the
14th
Suffolk
district
and,
as
you
mentioned,
Madam
chair
former
13-year
member
of
the
Boston
city
council
loved
my
time
here
and
always
loved
being
back
in
this
chamber
to
testify
and
participate
and
collaborate,
which
is
what
I
think
is
the
spirit
of
what
I
heard
today
from
Council,
Flaherty
and
I
would
just
say
that
my
interest
in
this
is
one
as
a
freshman
representative.
G
G
As
you
know,
the
climate
roadmap
bill,
which
is
which
is
making
Massachusetts
a
national
leader
and
climate
as
well
as
most
recently,
a
major
offshore
wind
bill
that
is
going
to
put
Massachusetts
first
in
the
country
around
using
and
harnessing
the
power
of
wind,
to
move
away
from
our
dependency
on
fossil
fuels
and
I
was
proud
to
vote
for
both
of
those
Michelle.
G
When
I
was
on
this
body,
many
of
the
ordinances
I
passed
came
from
neighborhood
residents,
Community
leaders,
crime
watch
captains,
school
children,
and
these
ordinances
became
law
and
thrilled
that,
even
in
the
legislature,
many
of
the
bills
that
I've
signed
on
to
and
voted
for
were
driven
by
people
who
live
in
our
community.
G
This
issue
is
no
different,
Michelle
I
didn't
know
before
this,
and
just
asked
for
a
meeting
asked
our
state
representative
to
talk
about
the
issues
around
climate
and
around
waste
diversion
around
Recycling
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
also
take
great
pride
on
Council
floridano.
We've
collaborated
on
many
sort
of
new
forward-thinking,
technological
advances
that
help
Boston
and
the
Commonwealth
do
our
jobs
better,
faster,
more
efficient
and
that
contribute
to
addressing
these
major
issues,
particularly
around
climate
and
around
recycling.
G
So
I'm
thrilled
to
have
had
a
couple
of
meetings
with
Michelle
thrilled
around
this
concept
and
this
idea
of
this
new
technology
to
help
both
large
venues
divert
waste
from
the
recycling,
but
also
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
Commonwealth
of
Massachusetts,
and
so
I
look
really
forward
to
working
with
Michelle
on
the
state
level
to
see
how
we
can
get
this
conversation
started
at
the
state
level
as
we
enter
our
new
legislative
session
after
we
get
someone
in
January,
but
certainly
once
a
city
councilor,
always
a
city
councilor
and
certainly
thought.
G
This
was
a
great
idea
for
the
for
the
the
city
as
well,
and
I
I'm
grateful
that
Council
Flaherty
took
a
meeting
with
Michelle
as
his
constituent,
too
and
I
think
again
in
the
spirit
of
what
are
new
creative
ideas.
What
are
new
technologies?
What
are
things
that
we
can
do
that
sounds
clear
from
this
meeting
that
everyone
takes
this
issue
seriously
and
that
it's
something
we
all
want
to
work
together
to
improve
that
we
might
have.
We
might
need
to
be
looking
at
sort
of
these
other
Technologies
to
help
us
do
that.
G
So
with
that
I'm
grateful
to
be
back
here,
grateful
to
the
council
Flaherty
for
offering
this
and
I
think
this
is
the
first
of
many
conversations
that
we'll
have
going
forward
into
the
new
year
about
how
we
can
work
together
to
address
this
issue.
Thank
you.
A
Great
and
now
Michelle
Gainey.
O
O
So
let
me
just
start
by
saying
thank
you
so
much
for
counselor
Flaherty
for
organizing
this
hearing
and
for,
of
course,
the
state
representative
Gonzalo
for
listening
to
me
to
begin
with,
because
before
he
took
that
meeting
I
can
say,
I
went
through
every
branch
of
our
government
every
Department,
every
everything
for
not
only
meeting
but
also
just
to
to
be
heard
about
this
issue.
O
I
have
15
years
in
the
waste
industry
experience
and
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Michelle
egini
and
I
primarily
worked
with
the
largest
waste
management
company
in
North
America,
managing
their
sustainability
program
in
New
England.
In
that
role,
I
created
and
implemented
waste
reduction
initiatives
for
our
largest
waste,
generating
customers
all
along
the
east
coast,
and
in
that
I
became
acutely
aware
of
how
far
we
are
from
sustainably
and
responsibly
managing
our
waste.
My
startup
GeForce
waste
sorters.
O
It
was
a
result
of
that
experience
and
is
a
way
in
which
we
can
see
the
missing
link
in
the
waste
management
infrastructure.
Okay,
Ethan
yay
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
numbers.
This
is
you
know
the
hearing
effect
finding
and
you
have
a
you
know
that
data
at
your
fingertips
and
I
will
also
have
this
presentation
available
to
you.
But
overall,
whether
you
are
looking
at
national
state
or
local
numbers,
all
of
the
data
is
the
same.
O
We
recycle
far
too
little
and
despite
best
case
scenarios,
you've
heard
from
all
of
our
venues
here
today
and
from
City
representative.
We
have
had
signage
drainage,
we've
had
investments
in
programs
and
education
and
Outreach
and
bins
and
collection
systems,
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
we
still
are
only
recycling
a
fraction
of
material.
O
In
addition,
we
have
had
regulation
legislation
and
mandates
in
place
for
decades.
Yet
we
remain
in
the
low
30s
for
the
past
two
decades
for
recycling
things
haven't
worked,
you
can
advance
Ethan
so
of
that
material
of
that
waste
stream
that
we
have
available
to
us.
Where
is
the
highest
value?
When
you
look
at
all
this
trash,
that
is,
you
know,
75-ish
percentage
of
trash,
the
highest
value
is
in
your
commercial
waste
stream.
O
The
reason
being
we
have
certain
areas,
whether
it's
restaurants,
hotels,
hospitals,
malls
Etc-
that
have
this
material.
As
you
have
already
said,
it's
in
a
controlled
environment,
but
in
particular
it's
the
venue's
waste
stream,
because
it
is
material
that
is
generally
consisting
of
about
40
to
50
recyclable
material.
O
That's
your
cups,
your
bottles,
your
cans,
that's
used
for
less
than
10
minutes
and
then,
in
addition,
you
have
about
20
to
30
percent
organic
material,
high
value
material
that
we
need
for
both
recycle
content,
as
we
heard
from
American
Beverage
Association,
but
as
well
as
for
energy
creation,
as
we
heard
for
composting
programs,
so
next
slide
Ethan.
Thank
you.
O
As
an
example,
just
a
handful
of
venues
in
Massachusetts
generate
over
40
000
tons
of
trash
per
year.
If
we
recover
80
percent
of
that,
we
would
be
looking
at
according
to
Environmental
Protection
agencies,
waste
and
reduction
model.
It's
a
greenhouse
gas
calculator
tool,
we'll
be
able
to
avoid
over
92
000
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent
emissions.
Just
from
that
handful
of
venues
alone,
okay,
next
slide
Ethan.
O
So
with
that
next
slide,
please,
oh
I'm.
Sorry
wait
back
up
sorry
when
we're
looking
at
the
the
current
strategies.
What
we're
lacking
is
the
recyclables
recovery.
What
venues
can
do
facilities
managements?
What
they
are
able
to
do
is
work
with
janitorial
companies,
as
well
as
waste
oil
companies,
basically
just
to
collect
and
transport
that
trash
to
landfills
and
incinerators.
There's
nothing
in
between
to
to
sort
that
segregate
that
recover
that
again,
the
efficiency
is
utmost
because
these
venues-
they
have
events
every
single
day.
Okay,
now
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
thanks.
O
O
Okay,
next
slide.
Sorry
Ethan
thanks.
The
important
component
here
for
all
of
the
venues
and
managers
is
to
realize
that
this
is
an
intermediary
step.
This
is
not
an
add-on.
This
is
not
including
or
not
taking
additional
Staffing
or
having
any
additional
time.
This
is
working
in
concert
with
your
actual
venues.
We
are
looking
at
utilizing
this
machine
again,
it's
mobile,
so
it
can
go
from
place
to
place,
setting
up
and
being
able
to
recover
the
recyclables
from
trash
as
well
as
the
Organics.
O
O
So
in
addition
to
reducing
the
trash,
if
we
were
to
recover
that
80
percent
of
material,
we
of
course
will
be
reducing
our
disposal
costs.
The
attorney
generals
from
12
States,
including
Massachusetts,
had
signed
a
letter
back
in
September,
addressed
to
the
federal
government
with
respect
to
reducing
single-use
Plastics,
and
in
that
letter
they
had
discussed
the
cost
for
Plastics
in
Massachusetts,
as
well
as
some
other
states,
but
I'll
just
mention
Massachusetts
and
they
estimated
11
I'm
gonna,
have
to
read.
O
My
11
of
MSW
by
weight
is
plastic,
which
is
attributed
to
44
million
dollars
in
annual
disposal
costs.
The
venues
themselves
can
talk
about
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
it
costs
to
dispose
of
waste.
We're
looking
at
reducing
your
trash,
which
reduces
your
your
trash
disposal
costs
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
of
course,
is
a
plethora
of
other
benefits
that
you
can
see
here
in
this
last
slide
from
circular
economy
to
social,
environmental
justice.
There
are
a
lot
of
acronyms
up
there.
O
I
won't
as
far
as
the
legislation
goes,
that
this
would
support
the
epr
and
the
PCR
and
so
forth.
I
won't
go
into
the
legislation,
but
again
the
the
slides
will
be
available
afterwards,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
material
on
my
website.
Just
so
we
can
get
into
the
the
Q
a.
But
if
someone
does
have
particular
questions
about
the
legislation
happen
to
answer
those
as
well
and
that
the
last
slide
I
think
that
that
was
the
last
slide.
It
go
ahead.
Ethan.
A
Okay,
thank
you
great.
Thank
you.
So
much
Michelle.
Thank
you
for
that.
Testimony
and
yeah.
No,
definitely
we're
everyone's
putting
their
thinking
caps
on,
and
this
is
something
I
want
to
go
around
just
to
my
colleagues
for
any
any
closing
comments.
A
I
know
that
Council
Brandon's
rejoined
us
so
counselor
breed
and
I'll.
Just
give
you
the
quick
crib
notes
that
at
the
BC
football
game,
tailgates
are
currently
beating
both
the
Red
Sox
and
TD
Garden
on
recycling
rates,
so
we've
got
a
37
to
39
percent
diversion
versus
25
and
60
BC.
So
just
that's
yeah
see
that
was
a
rare
moment
there.
A
So
so
yeah,
it's
just
making
you
aware
that
they're
here,
if
you
wanted
to
have
any
any
a
quick
back
and
forth
with
them,
but
I'll
just
go
first
to
the
sponsor
counselor
clarity.
Thank.
B
A
Yes,
sorry
and
we've
been
joined
by
council
president
Ed
Flynn
as
well
so
counselor
Flynn.
Thank
you
for
joining.
B
Us
thank
you,
madam
chair
Michelle.
If
you
could
just
take
us
through
US
you're
out
at
Gillette,
Stadium
and
after
the
game
in
the
sort
of
the
staff,
is
putting
the
janitorial
staff
as
cleaning
up
all
the
cups
and
wrappers
and
bottles
and
cans
from
both
the
parking
lot,
the
tailgate
portion
plus
inside
the
stadium,
and
then
you
kind
of
come
out
of
nowhere
with
that
trailer
system.
And
then,
where
do
you
set
up?
B
O
Sure
so
it's
a
it's
built
on
a
25-foot
trailer.
It's
hauled
by
a
an
F-150
and
it
is
designed
this
way
because
of
the
the
mobility
That's
essential.
So
obviously
Gillette
has
a
handful
of
games
and,
yes,
they
generate
quite
a
bit
of
trash,
but
they
don't
need
a
system
year
round
and
even
Fenway.
It
has
100
events
again.
It
doesn't
need
a
system
year
round,
so
being
able
to
have
something.
Mobile
was
crucial,
but
also
being
able
to
handle
that
waste
that
you're
talking
about.
O
In
my
experience
in
doing
the
waste
source
for
all
these
large
generators
over
the
the
years
in
the
industry,
the
Imports
were
crucial
to
understand
the
volume
and
the
types
of
material,
the
specific
composition,
so
that
we
would
have
the
Machinery
necessary
to
handle
the
liquid
waste,
as
well
as
the
the
food
waste.
What
is
essential
about
this
type
of
waste
stream
and
why
it
is
so
valuable
is
because
it
is
almost
untouched
what
you're
thinking
about
in
those
ketchup,
packets
packages
and
things.
O
Yes,
it
is
messy,
but
it's
not
like
your
your
mixed
Residential
Waste,
where
it
has
been
mixed
with
I
call.
It
everything
under
the
sun
and
has
been
compacted
we're
on
site
at
these
events,
where
the
material
has
been
touched
for
10
minutes
or
less,
and
it's
not
compacted.
So
it
is
a
pristine
waste
stream
and
is
definitely
not
a
waste
stream
for
incineration
or
landfill
easily
low
hanging
fruit
to
recover
this
material.
O
We
have
two
belts
inside
of
the
mission
inside
of
the
mobile
unit
and
all
of
the
heavy
liquid
material
that
food,
organic
material
will
stay
on
that
first
belt
and
the
sorters
will
be
flipping
off
the
recyclables
up
to
the
secondary
belt.
There's
a
liquid
catch
Basin
as
well
to
remove
and
extract
the
liquids
and
our
next
Generation
machine.
Eco
Beast
will
have
some
AI
that
will
be
installed
in
order
to
capture
packaging
data,
which
is
essential
for
all
of
the
compliance
to
legislation
for
Consumer
brands.
B
O
Sure
four
inside
there
are
waste
orders
with
a
trash
barrel
in
between
them,
because
there's
still
about
10
to
20
residual
waste
and
then
four
runners
outside
and
those
Runners
will
be
weighing
the
material,
inbound
and
outbound.
So
we'll
understand
exactly
what
we're
collecting
sorting
and
putting
into
the
respective
barrels
compactors.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
Flaherty,
councilor,
Murphy,.
C
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It
was
very
informative
and
Robin
I
could
see
you
thinking
over
there
and
you
had
mentioned
that
after
games
and
you
probably
do
it
at
the
other
venues
too,
but
you
had
specifically
mentioned
sometimes
eight
to
nine
hours.
Do
you
see
a
system
like
this
helping
with
the
Sorting,
because
I
did
say
I
liked
your
graphics,
that
there
are
still
people
there
on
the
end
after
it's
sorted
out,
yeah.
K
M
K
C
D
Thank
you,
I
I
I'm,
going
to
review
the
most
of
the
tape.
I
had
a
meeting
to
take
offline,
so
I
really
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Michelle
I
think
it's
definitely.
We
need
to
pull
out
all
the
stops
and
find
workable
solutions
to
to
really
get
that
quality
recyclables
and
get
them
capture
them
and
get
them
recycled.
It's
very
discouraging
to
know
that
we
have
we
have
recycled
streams.
We
put
a
lot
of
everybody's
very
conscious.
D
We
want
to
recycle,
but
if
it's
re
it's
contaminated,
it's
it's
not
sorted
and
it's
not
of
very
much
value
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
it's
recyclable
at
all
at
the
end.
So
thank
you
for
these
Innovative
and
forwards
thinking,
ideas.
We
we
definitely
need
to
come
up
with
some
really
good,
workable
Solutions.
So
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Thank.
A
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors
as
well,
and
to
the
panelists
city
officials,
state
representative,
consalvo
I
apologize
for
being
late,
I'm
going
to
watch
the
video
later
this
evening
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
my
Council
colleagues
for
the
important
work
they're
doing
on
these
quality
life
issues.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
great.
A
Flynn
and
I
should
have
said:
I
was
giving
BC
their
Laurels,
but
in
fact
the
highest
diversion
rate
on
the
panel
does
go
to
the
MCCA
at
the
50,
so
I
just
want
to
register
that
I
did
know
that,
and
you
know
again,
this
is
just
it's.
It's
such
an
important
issue.
It's
and
we
we,
the
city
of
Boston,
cannot,
as
a
city,
have
the
kinds
of
diversion
rates
that
we
want
without
the
partnership
of
of
all
of
you.
A
So
you
know
I
guess
my
takeaways
from
this
are
very
much.
You
know
thank
you
to
all
of
you
who
are
working
on
this
and
thinking
about
it,
and
it's
clear
that
there's,
like
you
know,
capable
operations.
Folks
who
are
worrying
about
this
every
day
at
all
of
your
institutions,
I
think
that,
but
I
think
like
we
can
collectively
do
better
I.
Think
right,
there's
there's
these
questions
of
of
of
the
Sorting.
A
It
does
feel
like
you,
have
this
kind
of
captive
audience,
and
so
you
know
I
think
any
behavior
modification
is
great
I'm
going
to
be
really
interested
to
see
what
the
AI
does
for
us,
but
I
also
think
that
baking
in
how
your
patrons
operate
and
then
figuring
out
you
know,
are
there
back
end
ways
of
getting
that
sorting
done,
as
we've
discussed
today
seems
really
important.
I
think
that
everybody
really
looking
at
their
inputs
feels
important.
A
You
know
it
to
me.
It's
just
like
you
guys,
you
guys
decide
what's
on
offer
and
I
think
I
think
patrons
are
relatively
unconcerned
with
the
container
that
their
beverage
is
in
most
of
the
time
and
the
kind
of
details
of
it.
They
may
have
some
opinions
all
around
the
margins,
but
but
I
think
that
you
know
it's
a
place
where
we
can
just
change.
A
We
can
just
remove
the
difficult
to
deal
with
options
from
the
table
and
you
know
and
I
think
I
think
we
in
the
city
of
Boston
the
compote
we
we
talked
today
mostly
about
the
Plastics
issue
and
really
appreciate
the
mass
chapter
of
the
beverage
Association
being
here
with
us,
but
I
think
just
won
a
flag
because
we
talked
about
it
less,
except
vis-a-vis,
the
garden.
You
know,
obviously
the
composting
issue
and
what
to
do
with
oils
and
all
that
you
know
it's
huge
and
we're
definitely
interested
in
the
city.
A
I
think
you
I
think
I
think
everyone
expects
right
that,
like
there's
gonna,
be
more
government
scrutiny
on
that
side
of
the
house
in
the
next
five
years.
I
think
everyone
has
kind
of
seen
that
coming
for
a
while
I,
don't
think
I'm
breaking
any
news
there
and
so
I
think
that,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
all
anticipate
that
and
instead
of
waiting
until
it
comes
in
figuring
out,
what
are
these
like
to
scale
composting?
A
And
you
know,
and
like
vegetable
oil
and
like
all
that
kind
of
solutions,
you
know
if
you
guys,
figure
out
a
good
system.
It
will
help
us
figure
out
good
systems
that
scale
for
all
the
little
mom
and
pop
operations
in
the
city.
So
it
really,
you
know
that's
the
thing
is
like
you
guys.
You
have
unique
challenges
because
of
the
acuteness.
A
If
you
have
all
this
use
and
then
all
these
users
leave,
but
you
also
have
you
know
unique
abilities
to
kind
of
come
up
with
contained
systems,
just
the
fact
that
so
many
of
you
have
compactors
on
site
and
that
kind
of
thing
it.
It
feels
like
we're
going
to
need
you
to
lead
the
way
on
this.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
have
everybody
here
and
just
say:
let's,
let's
work
keep
working
on
this
together,
councilor
Floyd
did
you
have
any
finals.
B
Just
finally,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair
for
for
hosting
thank
you
for
my
colleagues
for
being
here
and
thanks
for
everyone,
their
time
and
their
attention
and
their
experience
and
the
spirit
of
collaboration
as
we
all
recognize
that
we
can
and
must
do
better
with
respect
to
our
diversion
rates
in
the
city,
both
privately
and
publicly.
B
So
that
said,
look
forward
to
continued
collaboration,
appreciate
Michelle's
presentation
and
her
attention
to
detail
here
and
again,
look
forward
to
working
through
the
chair
and
with
the
administration
and
some
of
Boston's
best
Partners,
who
are
in
this
room
and
your
respective
entities.
So
thank
you
for
for
being
here.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
Megan
do
we
have
any
virtual
testimony?
No
okay,
seeing
none
this
hearing
of
the
Boston
City
council's
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All.