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Docket #0382 - Order for a hearing on the importance of census and demographic data and the consequences of an undercount.
A
Author
of
the
docket
that
we'll
be
discussing
councillor
aaron
murphy
at
large
and
councillor
ed
flynn,
district,
two
council
president.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel,
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
fios
channel
964..
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
0382
order
for
a
hearing
on
the
importance
of
census
and
demographic
data
and
the
consequences
of
an
undercount.
As
mentioned
this
matter,
was
sponsored
by
councillor
braden
and
referred
to
the
committee
on
march
16
2022.
We
will
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
So
if
you'd
like
to
testify,
you
can
sign
up
over
in
the
corner
here
in
the
chamber.
A
So
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
sign
up
for
that,
yet
if
you
shoot
us
an
email
at
ccc.csit,
boston.gov
ccc.csit
at
boston.gov,
we'll
get
your
request
to
testify,
and
that's
also
the
address
where
you
can
send
written
testimony
will
still
be
accepting
written
testimony
after
this
hearing.
So
please
feel
free
delighted
to
be
joined
today
by
a
number
of
speakers
we're
going
to
take
them
in
two
panels
to
allow
for
counselor
questions
before
I
get
to
those.
A
I
just
want
to
read
into
the
record
an
absence
letter
from
my
colleague
counselor
ruth
c
lujan
at
large,
dear
city
services
and
innovation
technology
committee.
I
regret
to
inform
you
that
I
will
be
unable
to
attend
the
city,
services
and
innovation
technology
committee,
hearing
on
docket
0382,
the
importance
of
census
and
demographic
data
and
the
consequences
of
an
undercount.
A
It
is
vitally
important
that
we
are
getting
accurate
census
data
to
help
ensure
we
measure
what
matters
and
what
matters
most
is
every
person
a
correct
count
of
boston
residents
is
critical
to
be
able
to
send
the
dollars
needed
to
all
communities,
especially
black
and
brown
communities
that
have
been
on
the
receiving
end
of
decades,
of
disinvestment
when
they're
under
counts.
The
allocation
of
federal
aid
is
smaller
than
what
is
needed
and
deserved
by
an
affected
group.
A
This
translates
into
less
census-based
funding,
provided
for
programs
such
as
medicaid,
free
and
reduced
price,
lunge,
supplemental
nutritional
assistance
program
and
many
other
programs
that
rely
on
accurate
census
counts
under
counting
our
immigrant
population.
Our
students
and
our
incarcerated
residents
is
a
civil
rights
issue
at
its
core.
A
A
L-O-U-I-J-E-U-N-E
at
boston.gov,
sincerely
rootsy
louisian
boston
city
councillor
at
large,
we're
joined
here
today.
A
I
will
be
joined
virtually
by
chief,
arthur
jemison
of
the
director
of
our
boston
planning
and
development
agency
and
chief
of
planning,
mr
alvaro
lima,
the
director
of
research
at
the
ppda,
mr
phillip,
cranberry
senior
researcher
and
demographer
at
the
bpda
susan
strait,
who's,
the
senior
project
program
manager
for
population
estimates
program
at
economic
and
public
policy,
research,
donahue
institute,
and
then
ms
beth
wong
who's
the
executive
director
of
the
mass
voter
table,
and
then
we've
got
some
further
folks
who
will
introduce
when
their
panel
is
up.
A
So
we're
really
excited
before
I
go
to
the
panelists.
I
do
want
to
allow
my
colleague
councillor
liz
braden,
whose
stock
at
this
is
to
give
an
opening
statement
and
then
I'll
go
very
briefly
to
colleagues
for
opening
statements.
If
you
like
so
counselor
braden,
go
ahead.
B
We
all
know
that
the
2020
census
was
marred
by
incredible
difficulties,
with
the
with
the
april
first
census
day
falling
just
two
weeks
after
the
pandemic
shut
down
in
march
of
2020
and
as
a
result,
the
enumeration
of
our
city's
residents
was
severely
impacted
in
2010.
Our
sense,
no
census
tract
in
boston
had
a
self-response
rate
below
50
percent,
but
in
2020
29
census
tracts
had
a
self-response
rate
between
30
and
49,
with
particular
tracks
containing
large
numbers
of
off-campus
student
populations
and
hard-to-count
communities.
B
In
my
district
of
austin
brighton
we
had,
we
were
particularly
impacted
by
an
undercount
of
the
population.
We
have
a
79
percent
of
renters
28
of
college
students
and
29
born.
That's
why
I
was
particularly
alarmed
when
the
bpda
research
division
analysis
revealed
that
all
students
population
had
fallen
by
six
percent,
with
a
40
decline
in
group
quarters,
a
concern
also
shared
by
for
the
current
in
correctional
facilities
it
so
in
january
of-
and
you
know,
the
six
percent
is
a
total
of
five
thousand
residents
and
also
brighton.
B
That's
not
not
an
insignificant
number.
On
january
26
2022,
I
filed
docket
zero,
two
zero
three
in
an
order
for
the
city
to
submit
a
kind
question
resolution
operation
case
to
the
census
bureau,
to
dispute
the
2020
census
results
and
the
senate.
This
the
council
suspended
and
passed
the
order.
That
day
today,
we
will
hear
from
susan
strait
of
the
umass
donohue
institute
to
provide
background
information
on
what
the
current
question
resolution
operation
is.
I've
also
invited
susan
to
share
about
the
new
census
program.
B
I
want
to
thank
the
representatives
of
the
bpda
for
being
here
today,
because
why
we
do
not
have
a
city
department
dedicated
to
population
statistics.
The
bpda
has
its
own.
Has
its
research
to
vision,
division
play
an
essential
role
as
the
planning
agency
for
the
city,
so
we
will
be
joined
by
chief,
arthur
jemison,
alvaro,
lima
and
phil
granbury
from
the
bpda.
I
also
look
forward
to
hearing
testimony
from
our
invited
guests,
susan
street
beth,
wong
and
others.
B
So
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
I
will
not
will
hold
us
up
any
longer
and
get
get
to
business.
Thank.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
bpda
team
that
is
here
and
for
their
professional
work
during
the
pandemic.
I
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
chinese
progressive
association
on
the
census,
as
it
impacted
chinese
community
in
and
around
the
south
end
chinatown
south
boston,
in
as
I
mentioned,
it
was
during
the
pandemic
and
also
we,
we
saw
a
large
hate
crime
and
we
saw
a
large
anti-asian
racism.
The
reason
I
mentioned
that
is,
it
was
very
difficult
to
reach
a
lot
of
our
seniors
in
chinatown.
C
C
C
Community
events
in
my
district
to
try
to
working
with
the
chinese
progressive
association
working
with
karen
chen
trying
to
get
as
many
residents
counted
as
we
possibly
could,
but
it
wasn't
enough-
I
I
should
have
done
200
and
not
not
12..
But
my
point
is
this:
these
numbers
are
inaccurate.
We
did
not
count
adequately
the
the
communities
of
color.
We
did
not
count
immigrants,
we
did
not
count
people
living
in
public
housing,
and
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
make
sure
their
voices
are
heard.
C
This
is
a
critical
part
of
it,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
bpda
team.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
councillor
braden
and
council
bloc
as
well.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
president
flynn,
councillor
murphy,.
D
D
D
I
do
know
how
important
that
census
is
to
getting
federal
dollars,
not
just
city
services,
to
the
neighborhoods,
but
also
state
and
federal
funding
to
the
correct
neighborhoods,
and
the
data
also
helps
to
distribute
funds
and
assistance
to
our
neighborhoods.
When
a
community
is
under
counted.
We
know
fewer
dollars
are
sent
there
and
there
are
also
times
when
communities
are
over
counted
and
there's
more
dollars
sent
to
some
neighborhoods
that
may
not
at
that
time
need
it.
D
So
the
disproportionate
allocation
of
funding
will
further
exasperate
inequalities
across
our
city
in
our
country
and
as
an
at-large
city
councilor.
I
obviously
want
equal
representation
in
every
district
across.
I
know
my
council
colleagues,
who
are
district
councillors,
do
an
amazing,
wonderful
job
advocating
for
their
district,
but
I
know
we're
going
to
come
together
as
a
council,
the
13
of
us,
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
right
because
we
need
to
it
matters
to
our
city
to
our
future.
So
thank
you
very
much
chair.
E
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
councillor
braden
for
bringing
this
issue
to
the
forefront
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us
today,
as
we
look
at
the
implications
of
an
undercount
on
our
census
process.
I
really
want
us
to
consider
that
in
the
next
50
days,
we're
going
to
be
finishing
up
the
redistricting
for
the
city
of
boston,
which
is
an
extreme,
extremely
important
process
that
needs
to
be
equitable
for
everybody.
E
As
we
work
to
redraw
the
lines,
though,
the
findings
of
this
hearing
will
not
necessarily
shift
the
raw
numbers
of
people
or
the
under
counted
diverse
populations
of
the
city.
This
data
is
ultimately
going
to
provide
really
vital
information
for
a
fair
and
just
redistricting
process
for
us
on
the
council.
E
Our
city's
diversity
has
shown
that
it
has
grown
as
we've
seen
from
the
most
recent
census
numbers
and
offering
the
ability
for
new
districts
to
have
reflective
representation
is
something
that's
really
important
to
me
and
my
office
specifically.
We
saw
this
debate
happen
already
at
the
state
house
and
in
a
lot
of
ways.
E
It
didn't
really
provide
the
desired
outcome
that
the
advocates
were
fighting
for,
and
so
I
hope
that,
even
though,
even
if
this
discussion
only
aims
to
help
us
move
the
needle
and
to
address
the
undercounted
underrepresented
populations,
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
do
so
in
a
manner.
That's
gonna
not
only
influence
that,
but
that
is
best
for
the
city
of
boston.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
laura
and
for
my
own
part,
because
colleagues
have
stressed
all
the
reasons
why
this
is
important.
I
will
just
add
that
I'm
grateful
to
councillor
braden
for
bringing
us
hearing
forward
and
for
the
panelists
invited
today
in
part,
because
I
think
that
I
think
we
have
some
tremendous
work
on
data
and
demographics
that
happens
both
in
this
building
and
outside
of
this
building.
A
I
had
the
chance
to
work
a
bit
with
alvaro's
team
on
from
really
furthering
fair
housing
and
found
that
the
team
sort
of
grasp
of
the
granular
level
of
detail
about
boston
can
be
incredibly
helpful
to
us,
as
we
think
about
how
you
make
a
more
integrated,
more
just
city
and
and
many
of
the
institutions.
We're
going
to
hear
from
today
are
doing
that
work
outside
of
this
building.
A
I
think
we
haven't
always
done
all
that
we
should
to
make
the
policy
that
we
make
inside
this
building
be
informed
by
that
like
level
of
of
data,
knowledge
and
analysis,
and
so
sometimes
it's
you
know
we're
sort
of
looking
for
those
numbers
but
they're.
Actually,
there
we're
not
necessarily
looking
in
the
right
places,
and
so
I
hope
that
counselor
braden
is
in
part
here,
ushering
us
into
a
period
of
of
being
more
attuned
to
the
resources
at
hand
for
truly
shaping
and
crafting
that
chess
policy.
A
So
with
that,
I
want
to
invite
up
remotely
chief
arthur
jemison,
who
has
mentioned
is
the
chief
of
planning
and
also
the
director
of
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency.
Chief
debt
jemisin
will
be
introducing
alvaro
and
the
vpda
team
and
then
he'll.
He
won't
be
able
to
stay
with
us
for
the
duration
of
the
hearing
due
to
her
personal
commitment,
but
we're
grateful
for
him
for
being
on
to
kick
us
off
so
arthur.
Are
you
there.
G
I
At
any
rate,
can
you
hear
me
a
little
bit
better
now,
I'm
just
trying
to
speak
up
a
little
more,
it's
very
loud
in
there,
but
not
in
here.
A
So
it's
a
problem
with
that.
No
give
us
one
moment.
Sorry,
chief,
all
right
I'll,
take
this
moment
to
note
that
we've
also
been
joined
by
my
colleague
chief
gabriel,
not
chief
counselor,
not
a
promotion.
Gabriella
coletta
from.
G
J
Moment:
okay,
yeah.
A
A
We're
having
technical
difficulties
and
chief
jefferson's
got
a
tight
personal
commitment.
I
think
we're
gonna
just
jump
straight
to
you
alvaro
without
your
introduction
from
the
chief
and
then
we're
hoping
to
have
the
hybrid
fixed
in
time
for
susan
to
speak
to
us
from
that.
So
without
further
ado.
Sorry
about
that.
I'm
recognizing
alvaro,
lima
from
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency.
K
Thank
you
good
morning,
councillor
good
morning,
council,
president
and
good
morning,
council,
bach
and
rhythm,
thank
you
for
the
invitation
and
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
very
important
issue.
For
for
our
city,
I
would
also
like
to
recognize
the
greater
work
done
by
the
research
division
of
the
bpga,
in
particular
biodemographer
phil
granderi.
That's
here
with
me,
christina
kim,
that
is
our
senior
our
deputy
director
and
matt,
was
arresting
her.
That
is
our
same
economist
for
context.
K
We
should
remember
that
the
2020
census
was
administered
and
incredibly
challenging
challenging
conditions
with
the
kovid
pandemic.
We
should
also
remember
that
the
censor
was
conducted
after
years
of
attacks
against
immigrants
and
minority
populations,
budget
cuts
and
the
divisive
campaign
by
the
former
administration
to
add
to
the
census.
A
citizenship
question
that
read
is
this
person
a
citizen
of
the
united
states?
K
K
K
The
issues
I'm
going
to
highlight
today
and
their
implications
are
of
two
types
under
count
and
misclassification
the
under
count.
It
comes
in
for
two
reasons:
one
is
the
under
count
of
the
group
quarters,
the
other.
The
other
is
the
under
count
of
the
household
population,
the
decennial
census
amis
and
I'm
sighting
count
people
at
their
household
residence,
which
is
the
place
where
they
live
and
sleep
in
most
of
their
time.
K
So
that's
that's
how
this
the
census
count
the
population.
We
have
significant
concern
about
the
22
count
of
boston
population,
both
both
in
its
group
quarter
and
its
household
population.
K
The
population
of
this
neighborhood
administrative
records
from
suffolk
county
department
of
corrections
show
that
approximately
500
individuals
living
in
boston's
correctional
facilities
on
april
1st
2020
were
omitted
from
the
boston
census
count.
K
K
In
a
letter
to
the
sent
to
the
census
bureau
last
year,
mayor
kim
jane,
let
their
senses,
the
u.s
census
bureau
know
that
the
city
of
boston
had
the
intention
to
challenge
the
2020
census,
and
this
year
mel
will
send
a
letter
to
the
u.s
bureau
challenging
the
group
quarters
numbers
for
which
there
is
a
a
process.
K
In
the
in
regard
to
the
household
population
in
2020,
in
the
2020
census,
self-harm
response
rates
in
our
boston
census
tracts
is
65
in
2020,
29,
29,
boston
census,
trucks
reported
a
self
response
rate
below
50
tracks,
with
the
lowest
risk.
Self-Response
rates
are
those
with
high
shares
of
off-campus
students
and
or
high
shares
of
foreign
born
residents.
K
It's
it's
it's
important
to
remember
that
on
april,
1st,
most
of
the
students
have
left
the
city,
the
disruptions
caused
by
the
pandemic,
combined
with
mysteries.
We
stressed
fueled
by
afford
to
include
this.
The
citizenship
question
may
have
resulted
in
low
response
rates
and
rates
and
subsequent
under
accounts
of
students
and
foreign
households.
K
We
think
that,
in
addition
of
6500
individuals
missing
from
the
from
group
quarters,
we
estimate
that
around
15
000
to
20
000
individuals
are
missing
from
a
household
population
and
we
are
working
in
a
couple
of
scenarios
to
show
that
it
is
difficult
to
know
exactly
how
much
loss
of
resources
on
the
account
represent.
K
But
if
we
apply
the
estimate
done
by
the
george
washington
university
for
the
16
largest
federal
assets
program
that
distribute
funds
on
the
basis
of
the
senior
census
we
on
their
numbers
is
that
you,
with
every
citizen,
received
2
372
dollars,
we
could
lose
a
total
of
51
to
63
million
in
federal
assistance,
and
these
pro
pro
programs
include
medicaid
supply,
snapping,
section,
8,
housing
vouchers,
highway,
planning,
construction,
low-income
home
energy
assistance,
health
center
program,
child
care
and
development
fund
entitlement
foster
care.
So
it's
a
big
loss
for
the
city,
so
jesus.
K
The
second
problem
with
this
institute.
It
comes
with
the
changes
on
race
and
techniques,
classification,
the
2020
sensors
made
changes
to
the
collection
and
processing
of
racial
net
initiative,
data
which
have
led
to
large
increases
in
the
some
other
race
and
two
or
more
more
races
categories,
independent
of
actual
demographical
cultural
changes
in
the
population.
K
The
sensible
bureau
collects
data
on
the
population's
race
and
hispanic
origin
and
classifies
them
or
reclassifies
them
following
categorizations
developed
by
the
office
of
managed
budget,
and
that
category
is
one
of
the
most
bizarre
category
you
can
think
because
mainly
the
office
of
managed
budget
defines
who
is
white,
who
is
hispanic?
Who
is
asian
and
and
we
we
have
things
like.
K
We
have
a
definition
of
a
black
or
african-american
person,
having
origins
in
any
of
the
black
racial
groups
of
africa
asian,
so
it
there
is
a
definition
that
independently.
What
is
your
answer
in
the
census
and
then
give
some
examples?
You
will
be
reclassified
based
on
that
definitions
of
the
office
of
managed
budget.
K
On
the
2020
census,
a
person
first
first
market
and
ethnicity,
defined
by
the
following
question-
is
this
person
of
hispanic
latino
or
spanish-oriented
origin?
No,
not
a
hispanic,
latino
or
spanish
irish?
Yes,
mexican
mexican-american
chicano,
yes,
puerto
rican,
yes
cuban!
Yes,
another
hispanic,
latino,
prince
or
foreign
dominican
colombian.
So
what
is
the
problem
with
that?
This
sense
never
tell
anybody
what
a
latino
means:
I'm
brazilian
I'm
from
the
largest
latin
american
country,
latin
america.
If
I
say
that
yes,
I'm
latino,
they
will
come
to
me
as
latino.
K
So
the
the
assumption
is
that
latin
america
speaks
only
in
spanish,
which
is
wrong
because
of
brazil,
but
it's
it's
more
complicated
because
there
are
many
people
in
latin
america,
guatemala,
peru,
bolivia,
mexico,
that
don't
speak
spanish
and
not
of
hispanic
heritage
and
still
today
are
in
a
war
to
affirm
their
attitude.
K
So
the
that
is
the
first
problem
and
and
the
population
will
vary
mainly
how
you
understand
what
is
they
are
asking
in
the
brazilian
community,
for
example,
there
was
a
huge
effort
in
ever
since
to
get
brazilians
to
write
brazilians
under
the
assumption
that
you
are
going
to
be
counted
as
brazilian
and
that
you
mark
latino
and
brazilian,
and
you
end
up
being
non-hispanic,
and
that
is
pending
to
figure
out
when
you
will
answer
the
question
of
race.
K
The
question
of
racism
to
read
this
stranger
also
as
ma:
what
is
this
person's
race
mark
x,
one
or
more
boxes
and
print
origins,
so
here
the
sensors
included
on
the
2010
census,
origin
and
they
mixing
racing
with
origin
without
also
explaining
what
it
what
origin
mean.
K
K
So
if
you
are
a
cape
verdean
and
you
write
that
you
are
black
and
capable
will
be
black
and
another
race.
So
what
that
does?
Is
you
reduce
the
population
of
blacks
and
whites,
depending
what
you
wrote
in
the
box
not
depending
on
your
race,
and
you
will
increase
a
population
of
one
or
more
races
or
a
racing
black
and
another
race
which
is
totally
useless
for
users,
for
example,
for
public
health,
because
you
will
have
me
a
white
brazilian
with
a
black
building
on
these
other,
so
we
brought
back
the
other.
K
We
could
get
a
white
and
another
race
and
add
up
to
the
whites,
but
then
we
will
be
doing
the
same
thing
as
the
sense
we'll
be
reclassifying
the
population
that
the
census
reclassify
it.
But
it's
it's
a
huge
problem.
We
we
filed
on
the
federal
register,
a
critique
of
that
showing
all
the
implications
and
the
need
to
change
this
classification,
particularly
on
a
city-like
bottle.
That's
becoming
more
and
more.
K
So
what
what
are
some
of
the
implications
of
that
second
question
so
first,
like
refer
to
one,
is
that,
besides
making
origin
into
a
racial
category,
which
is
bizarre
using
the
on
the
omap's
categorization
to
reclassify
people's
answer
violate
the
self-identification
basis
of
the
sensor
and
may
mislead
people.
K
K
This
process
of
reclassification
or
misclassification
may
decrease
the
latino
population,
as
I
have
shown
in
the
case
of
the
brazilian
example,
it
may
also
have
increased
the
non-hispanic
report
in
two
or
more
races,
for
example,
in
the
2010
census,
14
around
15
000
people
marketed
that
they
were
hispanic
of
two
or
more
races
in
the
20
cents.
This
number
went
from
15
000
to
close
to
33
000,
and
we
don't
know,
if
is
that
by
misclassification
or
by
self-identification.
K
It
may
have
also
decreased
the
black
population
alone,
depending
how
you
count
it
giving,
for
example,
the
examples
that
will
escape
evidence
that
you
will
not
be
classified
on
the
black
alone,
but
will
be
reclassified
as
black
in
another
race
in
in
the
2020
census,
120,
000,
boston
residents,
17.8
percent
of
the
population
ate
the
shoes
or
were
assigned
there's
some
other
race
category
aid
alone,
either
alone
or
in
combination
with
other
categories.
This
was
large
alive
was
a
large
increase
over
the
2010
census,
where
there
is
only
63
000..
K
So,
finally,
this
gives
a
false
impression
that
changes
a
result.
The
result
of
actual
demographical
cultural
changes
in
the
population
are
not
a
result
of
the
reclassification
or
misclassification
of
the
sensors.
K
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
alvaro
and
I
wanted
to
know
that
we've
been
joined
by
counselor
julia
mahia
at
large
and
philip
did
you
have
anything
to
add
to
alvaro's
presentation
or
were
you
just
gonna
answer
questions
I.
A
Excellent
okay,
so
then
we'll
go
next
to
beth,
wong
and
then
who's
here
with
us.
As
the
president
of
the
massachusetts
voter
table,
executive
director,
sorry
and
then
in
a
moment,
I
will
test
our
system,
which
we
believe
is
back
to
working
and
try
to
get
susan
off
with
us,
but
beth.
Why
don't
you
take
the
floor?.
N
Okay,
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
this
invitation
to
speak
to
you
on
this
important
on
this
important
and
in
timely
manner
matter.
I'm
the
director
of
the
massachusetts
voter
table.
We
work
with
community-based
organizations
across
across
massachusetts
about
45
this
year
and
I
would
say
about
20
to
25
conduct
some
type
of
outreach
program
in
communities
of
color
in
boston,
from
2018
to
2020.
N
We
coordinated
over
a
hundred
grassroots
organizations
to
mobilize
for
the
2020
census
through
the
mass
counts
coalition,
and
we
did
so
in
collaboration
with
the
massachusetts
census,
equity
fund,
you'll,
hear
from
nancy
wagman
and
from
katie
campbell-simons
later
today,
and
then
last
year
we
convened
the
drawing
democracy
coalition
and
are
continuing
to
convene
this
coalition
about
how
we
about
our
vision
for
equitable
maps
in
the
redistricting
process.
We
did
that
at
the
state
level
in
2021,
and
we
are
continuing
to
do
that
here
and
are
working
with
many
of
you
in
2022..
N
So
the
massachusetts
voter
table
began
convening
organizations
to
prepare
for
the
2020
census,
starting
in
july
2017,
and
the
reason
why
we
started
our
preparation
efforts
so
early
was
because
the
census
is
is
a
once
in
every
10
years,
opportunity
to
get
the
foundations
right.
N
We
use
this
data
for
everything
from
allocating
for
the
federal
government,
allocating
the
right
amount
of
funds
to
title
1
school
districts
and
to
ensuring
that
the
right
amount
of
federal
transportation
dollars
are
available
to
to
our
cities,
which
we
all
know
how
important
that
is
these
days.
N
And
then
it
also
determines
important
other
pieces,
such
as
the
number
of
vouchers
for
section
8
housing,
and
so
we
all
depend
on
the
accurate
data
for
this
once
in
a
decade
event,
and
unfortunately,
the
city
of
boston
has
some
unique
factors
that
make
people
difficult
to
count.
A
report
by
the
boston
indicators
showed
that
63
percent
of
all
boston
residents
lived
in
the
census,
cut
tracked,
with
a
low
self-response
rate
in
the
2010
census.
More
than
any
other
metro
area
and
many
bostonians
are
immigrants,
low-income
college
students
and
or
renters.
N
These
are
all
communities
who
are
more
transient
and
harder
to
count.
In
particular,
the
citizenship
question
posed
a
particular
challenge
to
to
boston
into
massachusetts.
Massachusetts
has
the
sixth
largest
proportion
of
foreign-born
residents
in
the
country,
and
so
the
citizenship
question,
combined
with
the
public
charge,
rules
that
were
coming
out
at
about
the
same
time
right.
This
was
the
trump
administration
saying
who
is
a
who
is.
N
These
are
not
my
words,
but
you
know
generally
who
who
takes
resources
versus
who
provides
resources,
and
so
the
combination
of
public
charge
and
the
citizenship
question
introduction
at
about
the
same
time,
in
2017
and
2018
created
a
chilling
effect
in
many
immigrant
communities,
which
we
have
a
larger
immigrant
community
than
most
states
in
the
country
and
so
to
overcome
these
challenges,
some
of
which
were
across
the
board
across
across
the
u.s,
but
some
of
which
were
very
disproportionate
in
boston
and
in
massachusetts,
mass
counts,
trained
community
leaders,
often
in
partnership
with
the
census
equity
fund,
on
how
to
talk
about
the
census
with
their
members
and
clients.
N
We
organized
many
community
events
throughout
2019
and
early
2020
and
we
asked
residents
to
pledge
to
be
counted
in
2020..
In
particular,
I
want
to
highlight
the
work
that
we
did
with
the
city
of
boston
that
was
coordinated
by
sebastian
zapata,
who
was
the
city's
liaison
on
the
census
and
we
coordinated
efforts
with
with
the
city
and
community-based
organizations
and
then
during
the
pandemic.
N
So,
if
we
all
can
remember,
governor
baker
declared
the
the
state
of
emergency
on
march
10
2020,
just
two
days
before
the
online
portal
for
the
census
opened.
That
was
just
bad.
N
You
know
bad
unavoidable
timing
and,
in
addition,
the
group
quarters
operation
was
slated
to
begin
in
april
2020,
but
most
most
college
students
had
gone
had
gone
home
by
then
this
likely
led
to
a
severe
undercount
in
those
in
those
dormitories,
and
this
undercount
has
impacted
the
resources
available
for
the
city
in
the
next
decade
in
all
areas
from
federal
infrastructure
dollars
to
to
the
number
of
child
care
vouchers.
N
One
other
important
component
is
that
I
wanted
to
share.
Is
the
there
was
a
decrease
in
the
black
population
in
boston
by
three
percentage
points?
That
is
a
pretty
substantial
decrease
and
while
there
was
plenty
of
movement
to
places
like
brockton
and
randolph,
which
saw
pop
increases
in
their
black
populations
of,
I
think,
23
and
28
percent.
N
There
likely
also
was
a
pretty
severe
undercount
of
of
the
black
population
in
part
because
of
the
new
classifications
around
race
and
ethnicity
and
the
interplay
between
both
of
those
which
I
think
alvaro
was
describing
in
many
ways.
So,
and
so
that's
why
the
massachusetts
voter
table
supports
the
city's
challenge
to
the
official
account
known
as
the
census
bureau's
account
question
resolution
operation.
N
Assessing
the
impact
of
the
undercount
of
college
students
and
many
immigrant
and
immigrant
populations
and
communities
of
color
during
during
the
group
quarters,
operation
and
and
other
census
enumeration
processes
is
an
important
step
in
ensuring
the
fair
allocation
of
resources
throughout
the
city
and
good
data
for
policy
making
in
in
the
decade
to
come.
So
really,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
invitation
to
speak
and
for
your
time
and
attention
to
this
matter.
A
A
Hi
hi,
yes,
great
excellent.
We
have
you
sorry
about
all
that
this
is
susan
strait
senior
program
manager
for
the
economic
and
public
policy
research
at
the
donahue
institute
at
umass,
amherst
susan.
You
have
the
floor.
G
Oh
hi,
I'm
on
now
great.
Let
me
share,
I
have
a
presentation
for
you.
A
Yeah,
if
you're
able
to
do
the
thing
where
you
hide
the
coming
slides
and
we
just
see
the
main
slide,
it
might
be
a
bit
larger.
G
Sorry,
do
we
can't
quite
hear
you?
Let
me
just
text
wayne
and
see
I
see
some
things
coming
in
okay
looks
good
if
you're
set
I'll
scream
you're
all
set.
Okay,
thank
you
and
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
be
there
in
person
today,
I'm
susan
straight
from
the
umass
donahue
institute
at
the
university
of
massachusetts.
G
I
am
the
senior
program
manager
for
the
population
estimates
program.
The
mission
of
the
population
estimates
program
is
to
ensure
that
census,
counts
and
estimates
produced
by
the
census.
Bureau
from
massachusetts
are
as
accurate
as
possible,
and
I
just
want
to
check
that.
You
can
still
hear
me
need
to
be
in
presentation
mode.
Okay,.
G
Okay,
great
sorry
about
that
anyway,
so
we're
supported
by
a
line
item
in
the
state
budget,
we
have
been
since
2008
again
working
to
ensure
that
estimates
and
counts
for
massachusetts
are
as
accurate
and
robust
as
possible.
I'm
also
the
state
representative
to
the
federal
state
cooperative
for
population
population
estimates,
which
is
a
group
of
state
demographers
working
closely
with
the
population
division
of
the
u.s
census
bureau.
G
G
We
are
not
the
get
out
the
count
outreach
group.
Rather,
we
work
on
technical
issues
with
the
census
bureau,
including
a
lot
of
address
research,
to
make
sure
that
the
master
address
file
used
by
the
census
bureau
for
the
2020
count
was
in
the
best
shape
it
could
be
so,
for
example,
we
worked
with
records
from
mass
gis.
G
In
the
gssi
program
we
submitted
over
2
million
residential
addresses
to
the
census
bureau
and
of
those
they
they
took.
The
updated
lat
long
coordinates
for
over
a
million
of
those.
We
worked
on.
The
local
update
of
census
addresses
program,
making
sure
that
the
census
bureau's
master
address
file
contained
the
addresses
that
cities
and
towns
had
in
their
own
inventories.
G
So
cities
and
towns
submitted
a
hundred
a
hundred
thousand
or
more
addresses
through
that
review,
and
we
we
conducted
a
statewide
review
and
submitted
another
one
hundred
thousand,
so
in
short,
the
state
was
well
prepared,
in
terms
of
which
addresses
the
census.
Bureau
would
canvas
during
the
count.
G
However,
this
doesn't
really
speak
to
how
well
the
people
inside
of
those
households
were
counted
in
2020
following
the
2020
census
count.
There
are
a
number
of
post-census
correction
opportunities
that
we're
working
on,
including
the
count
question
resolution,
the
post-census
group
quarters,
review
and
census
estimates,
challenges
and
I'll
dig
into
those
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
as
at
a
first
glance
of
the
census.
2020
count
for
the
state
as
a
whole
was
robust,
and
here
you
see
the
annual
estimates
produced
by
the
census
bureau
up
through
2019.
G
And
then
a
a
large
jump
up
in
2020.
Sorry.
G
Didn't
expect
that
and
then
you
see
it
kind
of
come
back
down
again.
G
According
to
the
post-enumeration
survey,
massachusetts
may
have
been
overcounted
by
up
to
2.2
percent,
but
that's
just
statewide,
and
we
know
that
there
are
pockets
where
we
had
had
and
have
special
concerns,
as
presented
by
some
of
the
speakers
earlier
today.
So
as
alberto
lima
mentioned,
students
should
have
been
counted
at
the
addresses
where
they
were
at
school.
G
There
was
a
program
we
prepared
for
early
non-response
follow-up,
which
was
scheduled
for
april
9th
to
catch
these
students
before
they
left
for
their
homes,
and
then
we
all
know
what
happened.
The
colleges
closed
earlier.
They
closed
their
campuses
and
their
residences
early
and
the
status
of
those
students
was
unknown.
G
We
were
tracking,
at
the
same
time,
looking
to
see
what
the
self
response
rates
were
during
the
the
2020
count
and
here's
a
map
of
boston.
These
these
blue
areas
represent
tracks
where
we've
identified,
where
we
identified
large
student
counts,
whether
on
or
off
campus,
that
should
have
been
canvassed
in
early
non-response
follow-up
operations
and,
as
you
can
see,
kind
of
the
the
darker,
the
darker,
the
color
red,
the
lower
the
response
rate.
G
G
So
alvaro
also
talked
about
the
stakes
for
massachusetts,
looking
at
1200
to
24
hundred
per
person
per
year
in
federal
funds
leveraged.
And
if
you
start
adding
that
up
over
the
course
of
a
decade,
it
really
starts
to
add
up
to
a
lot
of
dollars
at
stake
for
the
state.
G
So
here
I'm
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
post-census
corrections,
opportunities
and
some
of
the
pros
and
cons
associated
with
each
so
first
there's
account
question
resolution
which
we're
looking
at
now.
It
started
in
january.
It
runs
through
june
of
2023
and
the
goal
or
or
the
of
the
parameters
of
this
program
allows
governments
to
submit
for
missed
or
misplaced
housing
units
or
missed
facilities.
G
However,
the
eligibility
for
or
winning
one
of
these
challenges
is
really
slim.
It's
basically
if
the
census
bureau
had
counted
the
housing
unit
and
then
deleted
it
due
to
processing
errors.
G
So
it's
a
fair,
it's
a
very
hard
bar
to
pass,
because
at
this
point
we
can't
know
unit
by
unit
what
the
census
bureau
counted.
It
also
doesn't
speak
to
how
well
the
people
inside
the
unit
were
counted.
So
we've
talked
about
some
of
the
fears
stoked
up
in
the
pre-census
climate,
which
would
maybe
keep
people
from
coming
to
the
door
or
fully
reporting
their
households,
so
it
doesn't
really
give
an
opportunity
to
correct
persons
for
household
or
even
occupancy
status.
G
The
next
program
is
one
that
I've
worked
on
personally
to
get
into
place
for
the
first
time,
since
this
is
a
new
program
following
2020
the
post-census
group
quarters
review.
This
is
a
program
that
can
restore
missing
group
quarters
facilities.
So
group
quarters
are
things
like
college
dormitories,
correctional
facilities,
nursing
homes
and
critically.
This
program
also
allows
for
correction
to
the
population
count
within
those
facilities.
G
So
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
dorms
that
were
missed
during
the
census
count,
and
we
know
that
there
were
some.
We
know
that
some
were
under
counted
during
the
count,
and
this
program
runs
through
next
summer
and
then
ongoing
each
and
every
year
the
census
bureau
produces
an
annual
population
estimate
for
every
city
in
town
and
this
program
is
currently
suspended,
but
it
may
start
up
in
the
summer
of
2023.
G
This
will
only
capture
change
that
occurs
in
a
place
after
the
census
count,
so
new
housing
units
that
were
built
or
changes
in
the
group
quarters
population
since
2020.,
there's
a
federal
register
notice
coming
out
later
this
fall
and
that
notice
is
an
opportunity
to
inform
new
program
parameters,
and
one
thing
that
I
will
be
asking
for
is
the
opportunity
to
redress
the
concept
of
persons
per
household
in
the
post-census
years
and
then,
finally,
you
may
have
heard
of
the
special
censuses
program
that
is
expected
to
start
up
in
2023.
G
G
G
So
in
the
census
world,
there
are
a
few
different
data
sets
as
you're,
probably
learning
right
now.
So
the
census
count
happens
every
10
years,
but
it
forms
the
base
for
these
annual
population
estimates
which
come
out
each
and
every
year.
The
annual
the
census
count
also
provides
the
framework
for
the
american
community
survey
and
the
population
estimates
create
control
totals
or
are
the
control
totals
for
the
acs,
so
they're
all
interrelated,
and
why
am
I
showing
this
is
that
all
of
them
are
used
in
federal
funding
allocations.
G
All
three
of
these
census
data
sets
and
we're
looking
at
1.5
trillion
annually
across
the
us,
which
will
probably
be
growing
over
the
next
10
years,
and
here's
a
this
chart
is
from
accounting
for
dollars,
report
from
the
brookings
institute,
and
you
can
just
kind
of
follow
how
the
different
data
sets
flow,
decennial
census,
which
informs
population
estimates
which
inform
american
community
survey,
and
these
two
in
turn
inform
all
of
these.
Other
statistics
used
in
the
allocation
of
federal
funding,
for
example,
per
capita
income
or
area
meeting
income.
G
According
to
the
brookings
report,
the
most
frequently
used
population
data
set
is
the
population
estimates,
those
annual
population
estimates
and
then
perhaps
the
most
critical
is
the
per
capita
income
which
determines
the
fmap
of
percentages
for
medicaid,
and
here's
just
a
chart
kind
of
hitting
that
point
home
where
you
see
that
25
programs
rely
on
that
per
capita
income
calculation
representing
almost
62
percent
of
federal
funding
allocations
that
were
measured
in
this
report.
G
A
Okay,
I
think
yeah,
I
think,
there's
some
kind
of
a
lag
okay.
So
I
think
what
we'll
do
now
is
we'll
go
to
counselor
questions
for
any
and
all
the
panelists
that
we've
heard
from
so
that's
bpda,
but
also
back
of
the
voter
table
and
also
susan
at
the
donahue
institute
and
and
then
just
reminding
colleagues
that
we
have
another
panel
as
well.
A
So
we've
got
lots
of
information
to
get
through
today,
but
thank
you
to
you
all
for
so
much
content,
and
I
also
had
the
staff
pass
out
the
press
release
about
the
mayor's
challenge
of
the
2020
census,
which
alvaro
mentioned
in
his
remarks.
So
I'll
hold
my
questions
to
the
end.
I'll
go
first
to
counselor
brayden
for
her
questions.
B
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentations.
I
think
it
gives
us
a
a
better
understanding
of
just
how
consequential
an
undercount
is
in
terms
of
funding,
federal
funding
for
all
sorts
of
programs
and
how
how
our
census
data
informs
policy
making
at
the
city
level,
but
also
the
state
and
federal
level.
B
So
just
really
one
thing
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
could
set
the
table
for
how
we
might
improve
things
like
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
some
corrections.
But
in
terms
of-
and
I
understand
that
you
know
this
is
more
directed
at
susan-
the
the
there's
little
possibility
to
channel
channel
the
off
campus
under
count
and
what
what
options
do
we
have
to
try
and
make
that
make
any
corrections
in
that
space
with
regard
to
off-campus
on
off-campus
student
under
counts,
and
then
also
the
other
question
I
had
would?
B
Could
you
briefly
share
a
bit
about
the
programs
in
between
the
the
census
years,
the
the
the
dice
the
die
centennial?
Where
is
the
city?
Where
does
the
city
of
boston
have
an
opportunity
to
submit
internal
administrative
data
to
the
state
and
the
census
bureau
on
new
kind,
new
housing
units?
You
know
we
see
some
neighborhoods
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
new
development
and
and
then
construction
permits
being
issued,
and
how
can
we
use
that
data
to
inform
any
corrective
action
that
we
need
to
take?
G
Hi,
sorry,
I'm
watching
on
live
stream
to
hear
you,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
lagged,
but
I
think
I've
caught
up.
So
your
your
questions
were
what
were
the
opportunities
to
correct
the
counts
of
off-campus
students
and
also
what
are
the
opportunities
for.
G
Putting
in
new
data
throughout
the
interstencial
years
to
the
census
bureau
so
for
our
off-campus
college
students,
this
is
a
really
tricky
issue
and
it's
the
same
for
whether
you're
an
off-campus
college
student
or
a
person
who
just
didn't
come
to
the
door
during
the
2020
count.
So,
on
the
one
hand,
some
in
some
areas,
the
students
may
have
actually
left
their
apartments
during
during
the
covid
period.
G
Only
now
they're,
you
know
now,
maybe
they're
back
or
maybe
they'll
be
back
next
year
and
the
way
that
the
census
annual
estimates
program
currently
works
is
that
it's
it's
new
estimates
are
used
are
created
using
a
person
per
household
and
occupancy
rate
times.
You
know
the
the
number
of
units
which
include
new
units
that
have
been
added
so
traditionally
that
person
per
household
and
occupancy
rate
were
both
pulled
from
the
most
recent
census.
G
So
your
2018
boston
estimate
is
your.
You
know
updated
number
of
housing
units
in
the
city
times
your
2010
person
per
household
and
2010
occupancy
rate.
G
So
the
concern,
of
course,
is
that
if
the
census
bureau's
population
division
continues
with
this
methodology,
we
will
have
we'll
have
a
problem
in
the
areas
where
the
person
for
household
and
occupancy
rate
work
temporarily
quite
different
from
what
what
they
had
been
and
what
they
will
be
for
the
rest
of
the
decade.
G
So,
under
the
current
methodology
there
is
no
recourse.
However,
this
is
why
I'm
pointing
to
the
federal
register
notice
coming
out
later.
This
fall
as
an
opportunity
to
start
digging
into
what
can
be
up
for
grabs
in
a
post-census
annual
estimates
challenge
program
which,
I
would
argue,
should
include
challenges
or
updates
to
the
persons
per
household
and
occupancy
rates.
G
So
that's
that's
what
I
will
be
pushing
for,
and
you
know,
demographers
in
other
states.
I
think
share,
share
these
concerns
and,
and
it's
something
that
we'll
be
trying
to
put
on
the
table
in
terms
of
the
opportunities
in
between
census
years,
every
city
in
town
is
surveyed
by
the
u.s
census
bureau
annually
on
their
new
construction.
It's
the
census,
building
permit
survey.
G
Actually,
some
cities
and
towns
are
surveyed
monthly,
so
the
census
bureau
again
does
use
the
updates
to
these
housing
units
in
their
estimates
formula
during
the
intercentral
years
in
terms
of
group
quarters,
the
population
estimates
program
at
the
umass
donahue
institute
does
a
statewide
collection
of
updated
group
quarters
populations
for
our
major
types
of
group
quarters,
including
correctional
facilities,
nursing
homes
and
student
housing.
So
we
do
survey
all
of
the
colleges
in
the
state
annually
and
we
submit
that
population
change
to
the
u.s
census
bureau
directly,
which
they
then
incorporate
into
their
annual
estimates.
B
You
can
ask
one
more
also.
This
is
a
question
for
the
bpda
folks.
You
know,
I
know
that
the
bpda
research
division
has
a
has
a
history
of
conducting
extensive
studies
and
publishing,
really
informative
reports
from
the
impact
of
higher
institution,
higher
education
institutions
to
the
city's
housing
market
and
labor
market
surveys,
etc.
K
K
We
work
with
almost
all
departments
to
the
city
if
their
knowledge
is
not
very
specialized.
For
example,
we
provide
data
to
the
police
department,
but
we
don't
know
criminology
they
if
they
have
a
need
for
these
in
general,
the
work
was
not
just
to
invest
the
same
thing
with
the
health
department,
but
all
the
data,
that's
demographic
data
and
economic
data.
We,
we
are
the
providers
of
this
data.
B
K
K
K
We
have
looked
at
the
2010
census
and
if
you
are
assuming
or
the
acs,
if
you
are
assuming
the
size
of
the
household
and
the
vacancy
rate
before
kovitch
and
you
apply
to
the
census,
we
come
closer
to
15
to
20
000
numbers.
So
we
we
tested
this
hypothesis
for
many
different
angles
and
we
come
up
with
the
same
number
and
we
are
going
to
meet
you
with
the
departments
and
say
we
think
you
should
use
that
population,
not
the
sales
population
for
planning
or
budgeting.
K
So
the
the
problem-
and
I
think
that
what
susan
highlight
is
that
everything
that
you
will
come
now
from
now
on
on
the
acs
and
everything
that
the
census
does
the
base
is
the
20
20
census
so
that
you
are
going
to
carry
over.
B
K
That
on
the
account
forward-
and
that
is
that
is
a
problem-
I
mean
we
have
a
flexibility
to
adjust
in
the
large
numbers.
Then
when
we
are
going
to
apportion
this
number
to
the
neighborhoods
that
start
to
be
problematic
and
difficult
to
do,
and
when
we
are
going
to
apportion
this
to
a
smaller
area,
we
have
more
problem
doing
that.
K
A
C
C
As
I
said,
we
did
do
a
knocking
I've.
I
have
three
women
on
my
staff
that
speak
cantonese
amanda
and
we
did
a
lot
of
door
knocking,
but
we
couldn't
really
do
the
the
connecting
with
for
the
internet
because
a
lot
of
our
seniors
don't
have
access
to
social
media
and
the
internet.
N
The
digital
divide
was
a
major
factor
in
the
census.
It
was
the
first
census
that
took
place
primarily
online.
They
did
send
out
paper
forms,
I
think,
sometime
in
the
late
summer
of
2020,
and
we
definitely
did
see
a
spike
in
the
in
self-response
rates
when
the
paper
forms
were
sent
out.
N
But
that
is
definitely
the
digital
divide,
certainly
impacted
the
participation
of
low-income
people,
immigrants
and
elderly
people,
and-
and
I
think,
if
I
remember
correctly-
the
census
bureau
did
not
send
out
paper
forms
until
maybe
the
sixth
mailing,
and
I
think
they
only
sent
them
in
english
and
spanish.
N
If
I
remember
correctly,
it's
been
about
two
years,
but
those
were
definitely
factors
that
led
to
a
lower
self-response
rate
among
people,
immigrants
who,
whose
primary
languages
are
not
english
or
spanish,
and
also
for,
and
certainly
that
must
have
impacted
communities
that
live
in
public
housing
in
boston.
C
C
There
was
a
young
teenager,
a
young
asian
student
and
she
was
getting
on
the
train
going
to
school
and
when
she
got
on
the
train,
the
train
emptied
out,
mostly
mostly
white
white
people
in
the
train
emptied
out
because
they
associated
her
with
with
covert
19,
and
this
was
as
the
pandemic
was
just
starting
and
she's,
telling
us
this
story
at
josiah
quincy
school,
and
then
we
had.
C
Then
we
saw
a
rise
in
the
aapi.
We
saw
a
rise
in
hate
crimes
against
the
asian
community.
I
I
bring
that
up,
because
you
know
the
asian
community
felt
threatened
during
this
period
of
time
and
they
didn't
answer
their
door.
They
didn't
answer
their
phone.
A
lot
of
them
didn't
even
leave
their
apartment
for
over
a
year.
C
I
know
that
because
I
talk
to
them
every
day
my
staff
talks
to
them
every
day,
so
there's
a
undercunt
under
count
for
aapi
community
throughout
throughout
the
city,
including
probably
the
vietnamese
community,
in
dorchester
and
in
in
other
areas
across
the
city,
in
austin
and
brighton
in
east
boston
and
charleston,
with
its
large
asian
communities.
Public
housing
as
well
as
another,
was
another
major
challenge
for
us.
K
So
the
group
quarter,
there
is
a
process,
the
marriage
challenge,
and
I
I
think,
they're
going
to
accept
the
questions.
Then
what
are
you
going
to
change
the
population?
Not
when
we
challenge
the
sense?
Last
time
they
reshuffle
the
population
of
the
count
and
adjust
the
population
of
boston?
K
I
don't
think
that
they
are
going
to
do
this
time,
because
if
you
were
to
change
the
population
of
boys,
you
don't
have
to
change
the
population
of
the
country
of
the
state
of
the
other
states
and
the
country.
So
then
the
question
is:
what
do
we
do
with
that?
I
mean
from
from
our
point
of
view,
we
can
change
the
population
and
use
the
right
population
for
planning
now
for
the
monies
that
come
from
the
federal
government.
K
It's
the
classification
is
a
political
process.
If
you,
if
you
go
back
on
on
the
census,
you
had
others,
and
you
had
so.
The
way
you
get
to
the
census
is
by
political
pressure
and
and
redefinition
of
these,
these
categories-
and
I
think
we
are
in
one
of
these
moments,
where
the
demographic
changes
so
much
that
this
classification,
it
started,
not
making
sense-
and
it
didn't
make
sense
before
but
you're,
starting
to
be
really
bizarre.
Today,.
C
Well,
thank
you,
madam
sure.
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
If
I
could
make
one
final
comment,
I
think
I
think
beth
mentioned
it
in
in
her
opening
statement.
C
C
In
my
opinion-
and
I
base
that
on
having
four
women
that
work
for
me,
that
are
immigrants
and
they
talk
to
their
friends
and
their
family
and
a
lot
of
their
family
and
friends
did
not
complete
the
census
form
because
you
know
they
they
weren't.
They
didn't
want
the
government
to
know
their
immigration
status,
and
so
we
we
excluded
a
lot
of
immigrants
because
of
that
controversy
that
the
federal
government
placed
on
initially
placed
on
the
census
about
asking
people
their
immigration
status.
C
That
was
hurtful
it
was
racist
in
my
opinion,
and
it
have
it
and
it
had
a
devastating
impact
and
we're
still
feeling
that
today.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
D
Councilor
murphy,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
all
of
your
information,
so
we
know
as
a
body
we're
about
to
undertake
and
quickly
complete
our
redistricting
and
we
care
about
the
correct
numbers
for
that
reason.
But
we
know
that
the
census
gives
us
the
necessary
information
for
a
lot
of
other
things.
D
You
know
some
of
the
more
popular
ones
we're
all
aware
of.
Like
medicaid
snap
mental
health
services
head
start
programming,
it
gives
us
the
correct
data
to
make
sure
we're
funneling
the
federal
state,
and
in
our
case
you
know,
city
dollars
to
the
you
know
when
it
comes
to
health
safety,
family,
community,
education
issues
that
all
of
us
here
on
the
council
care
about.
As
the
chair
of
public
health
and
veterans
and
a
former
teacher,
you
know
I
care
about
all
of
those
things.
D
So
setting
aside
the
redistricting-
and
I
know
the
state
did
use
these
numbers
and
finish
their
process
just
for
you
from
opinion,
because
I
know
you
guys
have
been
working
with
these
numbers
and
women.
What
do
you
feel
is
the
most
devastating
from
this
miscount
from
the
2020..
What
do
you
see
will
over
the
next
we're
two
years
in,
but
we
still
have
eight
years
with
these
numbers?
D
K
I
think
that
the
most
devastating
result
of
the
census
is
started
with
these
going
down
this
escalator
in
many
years
ago,
with
the
president
calling
the
max
the
mexican
rapist,
and
he
started
there
and
end
up
with
that
question
with
many
things
in
in
between
one,
for
example,
was
the
public
charge
that
mainly
tells
you
that
if
you
get
money
from
from
government,
you
cannot
be,
you
cannot
apply
for
citizenship,
so
there
was.
I
think
that
there
is
a
effort
to
undermine
this
thing.
K
So
that's
not
new
every,
since
there
is
an
effort
with
the
most
conservative
folks
that
is
the
constitution,
says
that
you
have
to
count
the
population
of
the
country
not
asking
what's
their
color.
What
is
this
or
that?
And
it's
also
a
way
of
you-
you
disappear
as
a
individual
in
joshua
number,
we
have
around
400
000.
B
K
N
N
So
something
important
to
think
about
in
the
play
between
this
this
city
and
the
state
is.
I
have
a
hunch
that
the
the
wealthier
suburbs
surrounding
boston
are
very
likely
to
be
getting
more
resources
relative
to
boston
based
on
these
self-response
rates
between
boston,
I
would
say
boston
and
gateway
cities
and
wealthier
suburbs
that
are
nearby.
N
That
is
something
important
I
think
to
think
about
when
you
know
in
the
kind
of
resource
allocation
between
city
and
state
in
the
next
10
years,
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
that
plays
out
at
a
granular
level,
but
overall
the
self-response
rates,
I
think,
with
the
exception
of
quincy,
went
down
in
boston
and
gateway
cities
overall,
but
went
but
was
extraordinarily
high
in
and
surrounding
suburbs
that
tend
to
have
a
much
higher
inc.
Have
higher
incomes
tend
to
be
tend
to
have
a
larger
white
population,
etc.
N
So
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind
in
policy
making
and
I
think
how
the
city
approaches
the
state
for
funds
and
then
and
then
nancy
wagman
from
mass
budget.
I'm
sure
we'll
have
lots
of
very
useful
information
about
how
the
undercounts
impact
communities,
and
especially
young
children.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
you
for
the
information
that
you're
sharing
and
for
speaking
plainly
about
the
impact
that.
E
You
know
the
racist
rhetoric
that
we
had
in
the
country
the
impact
that
the
racist
rhetoric
hadn't
had
on
the
census.
I
think
that
that's
something
that
looking
at
immigrants
and
looking
at
latinx
people
as
predators
is
something
that
is
alive
and
well
certainly
here.
E
So
this
is
a
lot
of
useful
information
to
have
and
I'm
grateful
to
have
it
and
I'm
grateful
that
you've
come
here,
but
the
mayor
has
already
challenged
the
results
and
you
shared
a
little
bit
about
what
the
process
was.
If
you
know
if
this
goes
through
and
we
get
the
numbers,
and
so
I'm
curious
in
addition
to
our
general
education
and
the
general
education
of
the
public,
what
is
the
role
of
the
city
council
in
all
of
this?
E
I'm
leaving
the
hearing
early,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
summarize
what
we
do
here
outside
of
having
a
conversation
about
it.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
been
made
obvious
to
me
is
that
we're
looking
at
51
to
63
million
possible
loss
in
federal
funding
that
is
coming
our
way
and
then
we're
also.
The
city
council
has
been
having
constant
conversations
about
the
decreased
level
of
resource.
E
That's
coming
from
the
state
to
boston
that
for
the
next
decade
at
least,
we
are
going
to
be
put
in
a
precarious
position,
particularly
financially,
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
we're
meeting
the
basic
needs
of
the
people
that
live
in
our
city.
So
that's
obvious
to
me:
is
there
anything
else
that
the
city's
council
can
do
or
are
we
mostly
just
you
know,
having
a
conversation
and
educating
ourselves
about
this
issue
and
the
impact
that
it's
had
so
that
we
can
take
action.
N
I
I
love
the
so
what
question
I
think
you
know,
I
think
the
self
I
mean
similar
to
what
I
was
sharing
with
councillor
murphy.
I
think
the
interplay
between
how
state
dollars
impact
the
city
is
is
what's
at
stake.
When
I
see
the
self-response
rates,
I
think,
regardless
of
what
happens
with
the
census
challenge,
I
think
that
if
we
know
that
there
was
an
undercount
in
boston
and
likely
an
over
count
in,
I
think
concord
had
a
rate,
a
self-response
rate
of
like
94
or
something
totally
off
the
charts.
N
But
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
need
in
the
city.
You
know
you
can
walk
into
any.
You
can
walk
into
rosie's
place,
you
can
walk
into
any
public
housing
building,
and
we
all
know
that.
There's
a
lot
of
need
in
this
city.
I
think
you
know
if,
if
I
were
to
you
know,
be
omnipotent
in
some
way.
You
know
I
would,
I
would
say
you
all
have
a
lot
of
relationships
with
state
representatives
in
the
boston
delegation
and
throughout
the
state.
N
I
think
ensuring
that
people
know
that
how
ensuring
that
state
level
decision
makers
know
that
how
the
undercount
has
tilted
the
the
foundation
away
from
resources
for
boston
is
an
important
message
just
to
keep
hammering
home
for
the
next
10
or
so
years.
N
Since
you
know
a
lot
of
the
federal
funding
is,
you
know,
passes
through
the
state
and
then
to
municipalities,
and
so
I
think,
with
anything
that
touches
that
federal
pass-through
funding,
it's
important
to
consistently
talk
about
how
boston
actually
had
some
very
unique
factors
that
made
an
undercount
more
severe
here
than
in
other
municipalities
in
the
state.
M
A
very
important
point
that
susan
made
that
hasn't,
but
something
else
hasn't
been
brought
out
yet
is
there
was
a
the
census,
did
a
lot
of
planning
and
that
planning
was
to
get
the
housing
unit
right
and
we
never
knew
what
that
housing
unit
was.
But
there
was
a
there's,
a
luca
program
that
brought
together
the
the
donor
institute
secretary
of
state's
office
and
all
this
and
much
by
the
work
of
the
city
of
boston.
M
We
in
the
2020
census
have
a
housing
count
of
over
300
1
000
units
of
housing,
which
is
matches
our
development
data,
okay,
okay
and
so
so,
therefore,
there's
a
part
of
the
censuses.
It's
really
really
good.
It
occurred
before
march
of
2020,
though.
Excuse
me,
okay,.
L
M
I'm
not
so
now
in
the
census.
Also,
I've
learned
something
else:
is
their
hands
are
so
tied
because
everything
someone
at
the
census
says
is
open
for
legal
challenge.
So
in
other
words,
the
state
of
new
york
lost
a
representative
in
congress
by
88
people,
so
you
I
mean
88
people
yeah,
so
there
so
there.
M
But
what
we
can
do
is
answer
that
question
is
we
will
be
using
a
population
estimate
program
so
once
a
year
the
census
uses
administrative
data
to
say
this
is
the
population
of
boston
and
it
will
also
will
have
something
called
the
american
community
survey,
which
you've
heard
a
little
bit.
We
refer
to
as
the
acs,
but
this
ongoing
survey
of
the
population
that
is
controlled
to
that
population
estimate
program.
M
M
If
the
the
american
community
survey
was
had
that
about
2.36
2.39,
depending
upon
which
one
so
so
there
is
the
population,
that's
how
we
can
come
up
with
that
other
15
to
20
000,
and
it
is
possible
to
correct
that
if
they
correct,
if
the
census
would
correct,
get
a
more
accurate
average
household
size
and.
M
There's
gonna,
be,
you
know,
there's
a
federal
register,
that's
much
like
we're
doing
right
here.
We're
gonna
be
doing
for
the
federal
government
and
any
participation
that
I
would
strongly
encourage
and
susan
could
be
a
resource
for
us
to
give
us
a
little
bit
more
technical
background.
We
can
give
it
to
you
as
well.
L
K
Think
also
I
mean
the
census
has
a
technical
component
that
what
we
are
doing
challenge
the
census,
but
the
census
is-
is
a
political.
It's
also
there's
a
political
process,
and-
and
I
think
that
the
siege
council-
the
boston
delegation,
through
a
political
process-
it's
it's
possible.
I
mean
the
congress,
has
oversight
of
the
census,
so
you
could
for
sure
impact
on
the
race
classification,
because
that's
a
classification
that
somebody
in
the
table
decided
to
make
it
so
on
the
count.
K
A
Thank
you,
counselor
laura
councillor,
mejia
good.
O
Morning,
everyone
sorry
for
being
late.
I
was
dealing
with
the
burke
stabbing
this
morning
and
helping
to
support
staff
and
families,
and
I
also
have
very
bad
allergies.
So
I'm
sorry
that
I
was
sniffling
while
you
all
were
talking,
I'm
trying
to
contain
it
all,
and-
but
here
I
am-
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
for
being
here
for
the
presentation,
and
I
do
believe
that,
in
terms
of
the
classification,
I
really
resonated
with
the
the
statements
that
you
made
about
how
people
self-identify.
O
O
She
was
like
soy,
india
and
I'm
like
no
you're
not,
and
I
the
reason
why
I
bring
this
into
this
conversation
is
because
there's
also
a
lot
of
colorism
and
self-hate,
even
within
latino
communities
right
and
so,
as
we
start
thinking
about
these
conversations
and
how
people
identify.
O
Sometimes
it's
easier
for
you
to
identify
as
white,
because
you
think
that
it's
going
to
help
you
navigate
the
world
differently,
and
so,
as
we
continue
to
have
these
conversations,
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
also
help
educate
folks,
around
colorism
and
and
what
this
all
means.
So
that
is
real
and
it
still
very
much
exists
within
the
context
of
this
conversation.
I
guess
for
me,
as
we
start
thinking
about,
and
I
love
counselor
lada's
question
about.
O
Where
do
we
go
from
here,
because
I
always
want
to
know,
what's
my
marching
order,
what
what
do
we
need
to
do?
You
know
what
are
some
very
specific
next
steps
that
we
could
take
to
begin
that
process,
of
course,
correcting
I'm
also
thinking
about
the
private
sector
and
the
role
that
they
play.
While
yes,
we're
going
to
lose
thousands
and
millions
of
dollars
from
state
and
funding,
but
I'm
just
curious
of
when
I
think
about
our
universities
that
that
are
here,
I'm
just
thinking
about
philanthropy.
O
I'm
just
curious
about
what
role
those
folks
can
play
in
helping
to
address
some
of
these
funding
gaps,
not
to
say
that
that's
going
to
be
the
solution,
but
I'm
thinking
about
all
hands
on
deck
and
everyone's
going
to
have
a
role
in
in
helping
to
support
our
most
vulnerable
populations.
And
so
I'm
just
curious
what
thought
of,
if
any,
has
been
given
to.
What
do
we
do
and
how
do
we
move
forward?
N
Well,
I
think
in
general
there
are
a
lot
of.
I
noticed
that
a
lot
of
the
city
data
is
is
scattered
across
many
agency
websites.
I
know
that
there
are
some
other
municipalities.
You
know
in
new
york.
City
comes
to
mind.
That
has
has
a
city
demographer.
N
N
Another
piece
is:
there's
also
state
administrative
data
and
right
now
we
only
collect
that
state
administrative
data
in
by
broad
racial
categories,
but
not
by
ethnicity,
and
there
are
big
differences
in
what
a
cambodian
you
know,
a
child
of
a
cambodian
refugee
might
need
versus
a
chinese-american
who
grew
up
in
lexington
right.
N
There
are
big
differences
in
the
aapi
community
and
the
black
community
in
the
latin
x
community,
and
so
I
think,
in
addition
to,
I
think
what
you
named
in
with
the
private
sector
and
also
with
you,
know
the
kind
of
nonprofit
institutions
and
philanthropy
one
other
component.
That
I
think
we
should
also
name
is
how
the
state
collects
administrative
data
to
kind
of
fill
in
the
portrait
of
who
lives
in
boston
and
what
do
people
need.
N
O
And
I
have
one
more
question,
but
it's
for
susan,
I
believe
who's
joining
us
she's.
She
had
to
jump
off.
She
left
the
building
yeah.
I
was
just
curious
to
know
what
pro
why
that
program
was
suspended.
She
had
mentioned.
O
There
was
a
program
that
had
been
in
place
and
had
been
suspended,
so
I'm
just
curious
if
it
was
timing
or
was
strategic
or
why
it
was
suspended,
it
just
seems
really
odd,
but
it's
okay
and
I,
like
counselor
flynn,
really
did
appreciate
working
alongside
you,
beth
and
a
number
of
different
organizations
to
help
support
a
lot
of
the
undocumented
communities
to
help
them
understand
that
you
could
be
counted
and
you're
going
to
be
okay,
I
think
all
of
those
things
have
impacted.
O
Obviously
we
we've
already
named
it,
but
I
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
help
support
the
challenge
right.
More
importantly,
and
I'm
here
for
it,
so
I'm
not
going
to
occupy
any
more
space
for
the
sake
of
occupying
space.
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
Thank
you.
M
I
I
could
try
to
I'm
not
sure
I'd
try
to
answer
that
question
about
from
students.
Yes,
the
program,
I
think
she
might
have
referred
to
suspended
a
program
that
is
suspended
right
now
is
a
population
estimate
challenge
program
and
it's
it's
it's.
The
reason
why
it's
suspended
right
now
is
because
of
the
time
lag,
and
it's
not
nothing.
It's
it's
it's.
This
is
a
usual
process,
so
typically
the
city
of
boston
did
a
population
estimate
challenge
in
2015
to
the
2014
number,
and
so
it
will
it.
M
A
So
I
think
the
idea
is
that
it's
a
it's.
Basically,
there
are
time
windows
where
the
census
lets
you
challenge
the
last
set
of
numbers,
and
then
they
suspend
that
program
when
they're
just
still
settling
the
numbers,
and
then
it
will
go
back
over
again
right,
so
we'll
be
able
to
do
the
challenge.
So
it's.
M
M
So,
in
other
words,
we
we
were
soon
to
be
having
our
first
post
census,
2021
date
of
release
tomorrow
and
so-
and
you
know
so-
we're
all
we're
always
running
the
time
timeline
with
census.
O
Thank
you
for
that,
and
without
dating
how
old
I
am
you
know,
in
20,
in
2000,
I
was
working
at
mtv
and
was
educating
folks
about
the
importance
of
being
counted,
and
here
we
are,
I
don't
know,
150
years
later
and
we're
still
asking
people
to
be
counted,
so
the
work
continues
and
the
reasons
why
people
don't
get
counted
have
not
changed.
If
not
they've
made
it
harder
for
people
to
want
to
do
so.
So
it
just
goes
to
speak
to
how
much
work
we
need
to
do.
A
Thanks
so
much
councillor
mejia,
actually
so
counselor
coletta
is
back
just
in
time.
So,
okay,
okay,
do
you
want
to
go
ahead.
J
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
panel.
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
late,
but
I
have
been
listening
and
my
staff
has
been
here
taking
notes.
Most
of
my
colleagues
have
asked
a
lot
of
my
questions,
but
you
know
my
question
is
kind
of
similar
to
what
council
mejia
has
alluded
to.
Is
you
know,
we've
learned
so
much
from
this
past
census
process.
J
You
know
what
can
we
do
as
a
city
to
educate,
to
be
more
proactive
as
a
council
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
losing
out
on
these
resources
that
are
much
needed
here
in
the
city
of
boston?
So
what
what?
What
are
some
best
practices
you
know
looking
for
that
we
can
implement
here
in
the
city
of
boston?
Is
it
you
know
getting
someone
else
on
mtv
to
to
advocate,
for
us
to?
You
know,
get
the
count
out
or
you
know
what
is
it
more
that
we
can
do.
K
And
I
think
that
the
other
important
question-
and
I
think
that
is
probably
applied
to
low-income
community
money
for
sure
for
immigrant
commitment-
is
not
during
the
census,
but
now
is
to
educate
people
of
the
relationship
between
the
sense
and
their
lives.
I
don't
think
that
that
is
clear.
How
that
will
impact
the
school
where
your
child
goes
and
snap
and-
and
I
think
that
is
that
will
make
for
a
2030,
better
sense
census,
because
I
think
that
connection
is
not
obvious
for
folks
that
this
has
an
impact
on
their
lives.
N
And
then
I
think
in
general,
the
kind
of
year-round,
civic
engagement
and
outreach
that
I
know
so
many
of
you
do
on
city
council
for
every
election,
not
during
elections
and
more
is
part
of
the
kind
of
civic
fabric
that
makes
the
that
makes
the
that
will
make
the
next
census
work.
M
There's
a
technical
comment,
also
that's
maybe
a
little
bit
too
technical,
but
in
2015
the
census
bureau
did
research
to
do
a
better
way
to
ask
this
race
and
ethnicity
question.
It's
called
one
question
and
because
many
latinos
will
say
I
already
answered
the
question
when
I
said
latino
or
not
latino
right
and
then
they.
Why
might
be
an
ask?
A
second
question?
It's
not
just
true
for
the
hispanic
latino
population.
It's
also
true
for
the
the
north
african
middle
east
population
and
the
census
bureau
was
going
to
ask
one
question.
M
Everyone
answered
one
question:
you
would
identify
this
category
so
this
two-step
process,
the
census,
was
overridden
so
census.
Researchers
said
this
is
the
best
way
to
do
away
with
this
large
numbers
of
some
other
race
category
to
get
a
bit
more
accurate
and
it
was
overridden
by
the
office
of
management
budget
was
which
was
a
part
of
the
trump
administration,
and
so
there's
a
political
component
to
the
census
and
to
keep
the
political
component
of
the
census
all
exposed.
I
think,
is
very,
very
important.
H
H
Phil,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
don't
necessarily
have
any
questions
I
have
been
listening
in.
My
staff
has
been
here
taking
notes,
but
I
think
you
know
we're
here
talking
about
correcting
the
census
count
and
how
there
was
a
severe
under
count
of
college
students
and
immigrant
populations,
something
that
we're
filling
in
east
boston
right
and
we're
all
going
to
feel
the
impacts
of
this
for
the
next
10
years
and
leaving
51
million
on
the
table.
H
Did
I
get
that
right
potentially
because
the
undercount
is
devastating,
but
I
think
for
me
I
have
a
comment
to
those
listening
in
eight
years
from
now
about
how
we
can
do
this
better,
and
I
so
appreciate
counselor
warrell's
question
and
it
does
come
down
to
city
investment
and
resources
into
our
own
efforts.
H
The
person
who
was
in
charge
of
all
this
again
putting
respect
on
his
name.
He
was
given.
He
did
this
all
by
himself
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
boston
and
he
was
given
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
play
with,
and
ninety
thousand
dollars
of
that
went
to
community
based
organizations
which
is
great
and
you
all
did
including
mass
voter
table.
You
did
what
you
could
with
that
five
thousand
dollars
which
left
him
ten
thousand
dollars
for
outreach
materials,
marketing
materials
we
didn't
get
on
radio.
H
We
had
printed
decals
on
our
trash
cans,
which
is
great,
but
I
think,
if
you
look
at
comparable
cities
like
philadelphia,
they
allocated
millions
of
dollars
to
this
effort
and
he
was
given
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
which
meant
that
he
relied
heavily
on
organizations
already
in
the
community
doing
the
work
which
is
important,
and
we
should
do
that.
But
I
think
the
city
can
also
back
that
up
with
their
own
resources.
H
So
I
know
there's
going
to
be
one
census
liaison
eight
years
from
now
listening
in
on
this,
and
so,
if
you
can
please
out,
please
try
to
advocate-
and
I
know
that
we
will,
if
we're
still
here
for
more
money,
just
to
make
sure
that
the
city
of
boston
is
doing
what
they
can
so
that
we
can
have
that
foundational
investment.
I
heard
somebody
say
that
earlier
we
can
have
that
foundational
investment,
so
the
city
is
is
doing
what
they
can
for
the
next
round
and
that's
it.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
councillor,
coletta
I'll
I'll,
be
brief,
and
then
I
want
to
bring
our
second
panel
up,
but
I
just
wanted
to
also
echo.
You
know,
thanks
to
beth,
for
all
the
work
on
that
we
were.
My
office
was
excited
to
be
part
of
that
effort,
and
and
I'm
grateful
to
all
the
constituents
who
called
other
constituents,
we
did
quite
a
lot
of
phone
banking.
A
In
my
experience,
the
other
piece
that
hasn't
come
up
so
much
is
that
it
seems
to
be
harder
to
get
self-response
and
civic
activation
in
our
kind
of
new
tall
buildings.
In
a
lot
of
cases,
I
have
a
bunch
of
those
in
my
district,
specifically
the
fenway
and
west
end
parts
of
the
district,
and
it's
just
because
of
the
way
in
which
the
those
buildings
are
enclosed.
It's
I
don't
know.
A
A
A
So
I'm
curious
if
anyone
knows
kind
of
what
went
wrong
there
and
how
to
follow
up
with
our
university
partners,
because
my
impression
is
that
the
government
sort
of
federal
government
directly
liaises
with
them
on
that
front
and
then
my
other
and
then
my
so,
if
you
bet
now
or
anybody
knows
and
then
alvaro
my
question
for
you
on
the
kind
of
going
forward,
is
I
wonder
what
can
we
do
at
least
internally
at
the
city
to
kind
of
keep
our
own
like
parallel,
adjusted
acs
right
that
people
can
consult,
because,
I
think,
like
you
know,
if
my
office
or
any
counselor's
office
or
any
department
is
just
sort
of
looking
for
population
information,
we're
all
going
to
go
to
google
the
same
way.
A
Everyone
else
does,
but
it
seems
to
me
like,
if
the
regardless
of
what
we
can
convince
our
state
and
federal
partners
to
do
if
we,
the
city,
were
kind
of
very
intentional
about
about
keeping
and
also
having
easily
accessible
kind
of
our
alternate
projections.
A
I
think
that
a
big
piece
of
weather
departments
use
them
will
be
whether
that's
kind
of
easy,
easy
to
grasp,
and
I'm
thinking
about
you
know,
even
the
even
the
formerly
furthering
fair
housing
report
generating
website
that
we
all
worked
on
a
year
or
two
back
is
built
off
of
the
last
like
acs
right.
A
So
at
some
point
it's
like
that
needs
to
get
updated
and
what
do
we
update
as
the
base
data
there,
and
so
I'm
sort
of
curious
what
policies
and
proactive
steps
you
think
we
can
take,
even
just
at
the
city
level
to
make
that
what
people
find
when
they're
trying
to
structure
things.
So
those
are
my
two
questions.
We.
K
Are
going
to
put
field
to
work
16
hours
adjusting
to
do
it?
All
that
I
mean
we
are
going
to
try
to
adjust
it
as
much
as
we
can.
As
I
said,
when
we
get
to
the
neighborhood
will
be
harder
and
harder,
and
maybe
with
the
new
acs,
we
can
get
the
characteristics
of
the
population
and
apply
to
a
correct
number.
So
I
think
that
what
that's
what
we
are
going
to
do,
take
it
some
assumptions
and-
and
but
we
have
to
do
that,
I
don't
think
we
can
assume.
K
I
mean
I
think
that
maybe
25
to
15
to
20
000
people,
it's
a
lot
of
people
and
when
you
put
them
in
a
specific
geography,
it's
it's,
it
can
arrive
in
any
neighborhood
of
washington.
You
are
going
to
change
the
dynamics
of
this
neighborhood,
so
we
are
going
to
try
to
allocate
as
much
as
we
can
and
I'm
looking
at
the
housing
dormitories
and
but
I
think
it's
it's
it's.
The
next
step
of
our
job
will
be.
A
L
A
N
If
I
remember
correctly,
there
were
two
ways
of
that
universities
could
do
group
quarters
one
that
was
basically
sending
the
list
of
residents
to
the
census
bureau
and
one
that
was
much
more
hands-on
and
enumerating
student
by
student.
I
think
over
time
most
universities
in
massachusetts
did
switch
over
to
the
the
more
hands-off
method
of
sending
the
student
list.
N
I
I
do
wonder
how
much
implementation
fell
through
the
cracks
in
april
2020
when
every
university
was
moving
their
entire
operation
from
in
person
to
online.
That's
my
hunch.
I
don't
think
that
anyone
had
any
kind
of
male
intent
not
to
follow
everything
by
the
t,
but
to
the
t,
but
I
just
have
a
sense
that,
like
every
institution
there
is
probably
a
lot
of,
and
probably
even
more
so
than
most
institutions,
there's
so
much
scrambling
right.
N
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think
it
just
it
just
again.
It
sort
of
raises
counselor
mejia's
point
about
like
how
can
our
universities
and
our
institutions
be
partners
to
us
and
kind
of
putting
the
pieces
back
together
here?
Having
experienced
this
loss
and
just
recognize
that
we
are
all
in
this
together
and
there
were
some
real
impacts
from
that?
Okay,
I
really
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
with
us
today,
and
I
want
to
welcome
up
our
second
panel
for
some
brief
presentations
and
any
further
counselor
questions.
A
So
thank
you
to
alvaro
and
phil
from
the
vpda
to
susan
from
the
donahue
institute
and
to
beth
from
the
mass
voter
table,
and
now
I'm
welcoming
to
the
floor.
Mr
tim
reardon,
the
director
of
data
services
for
the
metropolitan
area
planning
council,
miss
susan
wegman
wagman.
Sorry,
the
research
and
kids
count
director
from
massachusetts,
budget
and
policy
center
and
miss
katie
campbell
simons
from
the
massachusetts
census
equity
fund
for
drawing
democracy
all
right
and
have
you
have
you
settled
amongst
yourself
in
order
or
shall
I
just
say.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
I
really
I
will
fly
through
my
presentation.
You
have
you
have
my
remarks
and
so
I'll
be
very
very
brief,
but
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
the
importance
of
an
accurate
census
count
and
the
possibility
of
improving
population
estimates
moving
forward.
My
name
is
nancy
wagman.
F
I
am
the
research
and
kids
count
director
at
the
massachusetts
budget
and
policy.
You
can
see
that
our
field
of
happy
researchers
up
on
the
slide
we're
a
think
tank,
focusing
on
policy
solutions
for
equitable
and
thriving
commonwealth.
In
particular,
we
focus
on
state
budget
and
tax
policy
and
on
policies
affecting
the
economic
well-being
of
our
neighbors
across
the
commonwealth,
and
for
that
reason,
accurate
data
from
the
census
is
central
to
much
of
our
work.
So
if
the
next
slide.
Thank
you.
F
I
took
a
look
through
our
recent
presentations
and
you
can
see
here
screenshots
of
some
of
our
slides.
These
are
slides
that
we
use
to
tell
the
story
of
inequality
in
massachusetts
in
our
communities,
income
and
wealth
disparities,
the
state
budget
and
funding
fairness,
homeownership
disparities
in
eviction
rates,
disparate
impact
of
covid
on
communities
of
color.
F
F
All
of
these
presentations
in
these
slides
have
one
thing
in
common
and
each
of
them
has
relied
on
population
estimates
that
come
from
either
the
census,
the
decennial,
the
decennial
census,
the
american
community
survey
or
some
of
the
other
kinds
of
census.
Bureau
estimates.
Here's
another
illustration:
the
ne
casey
foundation's
national
kids
count
project
just
released
their
annual
data
book,
ranking
states
on
16
measures
of
kids
well-being.
F
You
can
have
the
next
slide.
The
massachusetts
ranked
number
one
this
year,
they
use
16
measures
divided
into
four
categories.
It's
worth
noting
for
the
first
time
this
year
the
foundation
could
not
use
the
most
recent
single
year
american
community
surveyed
data
for
their
rankings.
Because
of
the
struck,
the
disruptions
that
affected
the
decennial
census
also
disrupted
the
2020
american
community
survey.
We
can
have
the
next
slide,
look
even
so.
F
F
We
can
only
look
at
national
estimates
right
now
of
2020
estimate
that
kids
under
18
were
under
can
undercounted
by
about
2
that's
about
1
in
50,
so
the
under
count
of
of
the
group
quarters
and
college
students
could
be
part
of
that,
but
just
in
general,
kids
in
general
were
under
counted
and
there
is
a
special
if
you
could
go
back
just
one
slide.
If
you
don't
mind,
there's
a
special
concern
about
the
undercount
of
our
youngest
children.
Estimates
are
that
the
under
count
of
kids
zero
to
four
was
about
five
percent.
F
That's
one
in
20,
little
kids
being
missed,
and
that's
part
of
this
question
of
who's
in
the
household
who
gets
counted
when
a
household
gets
counted.
Are
we
getting
a
complete
count
of
all
of
our
littlest
kids?
So
we
can
move
on.
Not
surprisingly,
there's
equity
concerns.
We've
already
talked
about
the
equity
issues
about
who
is
most
likely
to
be
missed.
F
I
don't
need
to
go
through
this
again,
just
also
to
say
that
non-traditional
households
are
more
likely
to
be
under
counted
people
who
lived
in
multi-generational
families
or
people
who
think
about
the
disruption
of
people.
Doubling
up
during
the
pandemic,
there
was
a
lot
of
disruption
to
who
was
in
a
household
that
has
led
to
these
undercounts
and
that
have
contributed
to
the
undercount
of
kids.
F
The
next
slide.
Please,
there
is
a
lot
of
state.
We've
talked
about
federal
funds.
I
have
a
list
here
of
some
of
the
specific
amounts
that
come
to
massachusetts
based
on
census
counts.
You
can
see,
there
are
billions
of
dollars
coming
to
massachusetts.
Every
year,
a
lot
of
our
federal
covet
relief
was
distributed
based
on
popular.
You
know,
congress
passed
a
lot
of
money;
they
get
it
out
quickly
through
up
just
distributing
by
population.
So
there's
a
lot
of
money
coming
to
the
state.
F
Every
year
you've
talked
about
how
much
comes
to
boston,
specifically
and
most
of
this
funding.
Much
of
this
funding
is
critical,
critical
for
kids
and
it's
obviously
essential
that
our
communities
get
all
they're
entitled
to
on
the
next
slide.
Please,
if
we
don't
take
every
opportunity
to
do
to
what
we
can
to
correct
our
numbers.
Someone
who's
missing
from
the
account
is
missing
for
10
years.
Remember
for
a
kid.
If
a
kid
is
missing
for
from
the
county
are
missing
their
for
their
entire
childhood
10
years
is
a
child's
entire
childhood.
F
So
my
final
thoughts,
there
are
a
lot
of
complicated
reasons
why
getting
an
accurate
count
from
our
communities
and
getting
an
accurate
account
of
our
youngest
neighbors
is
getting
harder
and
harder.
But
we
know
that
our
economic
research,
our
public
health
statistics
and
the
picture
we
paint
of
our
communities
are
all
based
on
data.
We
expect
to
be
accurate
and
we
also
know
that
billions
of
dollars
that
flow
to
massachusetts
in
each
of
our
cities
and
towns
are
based
on
these
numbers.
There's
a
lot
at
stake
and
any
opportunity
that
you
can.
L
F
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Why
don't
we
go
next
sorry,
I
have
the
list
up
in
front
of
me.
Okay,
do
you
want
to
go
now.
P
Sure,
okay
yeah!
Thank
you.
My
name
is
katie
campbell
simons
and
I'm
here
today
really
representing
a
couple
different
parts
of
my
life:
I'm
a
lifelong
organizer,
I'm
a
boston
resident,
I'm
a
bps
parent
and
also
have
been
working
for
the
last
six
years,
almost
now
on
census
and
I've
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
a
different
group
of
folks
than
we've
talked
about
today,
but
philanthropy
and
really
am
here
to
share
that
our
philanthropic
partners
in
boston
and
across
the
state
are
totally
in
with
us
and
get
this
issue.
P
They
understand
why
it's
so
important.
They
understand
the
importance
of
getting
out
the
count.
I
came
on
board
in
2017
to
staff
the
mass
census
equity
fund
and
then
continued
on
through
redistricting,
with
the
drawing
democracy
coalition
and
drawing
democracy
fund
working
very
closely,
both
with
nancy
and
with
beth
and
other
community
groups.
P
These
folks,
these
philanthropic
partners
really
see
the
importance
of
getting
out
the
count.
They
understand
that
this
is
not
a
public-private,
separate
issue.
This
is
something
that
we
can
work
on
together.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
some
of
the
key
partners
in
boston,
the
boston
foundation
and
the
heims
family
foundation
access
strategies
fund.
P
They
have
all
miller
family
foundation,
they
have
all
come
in
full
force,
understanding
why
this
is
so
important
and
from
2017
to
really
recently,
we've
raised
and
allocated
a
little
over
two
million
dollars,
mostly
to
community
organizations
across
the
state
to
work
on
getting
out
the
count
and
then
addressing
the
redistricting
process,
and
I
am
truly
amazed
every
day
on
how
much
of
our
lives
is
impacted
by
the
census.
I
just
you
know.
P
We
talked
a
lot
nancy
and
beth,
and
and
the
folks
from
the
city
have
all
shared
all
these
different
numbers
and
it
it
still
blows
my
mind
and
I'm
so
happy
that
a
lot
of
philanthropy
gets
this.
You
know
boston
and
the
city
and
the
state
are
really
seen
nationally
as
a
leader
that
we
have
come
together
during
the
census
work
during
the
the
craziness
of
2020,
and
even
before
that
the
masses
equity
fund
was
talking
regularly
to
the
complete
count
committee.
P
You
know,
there's
been
some,
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
a
lot
of
the
the
sort
of
frustrating
and
the
negative
things
that
we
have
to
face
here,
but
on
a
whole
we're
really
doing
good
work,
and
I
think
it's
the
you
know
some
of
the
questions
that
just
were
raised
were
about
what
should
we
be
doing?
What
should
we
do
differently?
P
We
need
to
do
more
of
this
outreach.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we
talked
a
lot
about
was
you
need
to
support
the
trusted
voices
in
our
communities
and
you
know
of
the
80
organizations
we
funded
statewide
for
census,
about
25.
30
of
them
almost
were
all
here
in
boston
and
they
were
groups
that
were
in
the
community.
They
could
talk
to
folks
folks
who
were
scared
to
come
to
the
door.
P
Folks,
that
did
not
speak
english.
Folks,
who
were
new
residents
and
didn't
understand
our
democratic
process,
they
need
those
folks.
They
need
that
community
and
philanthropy.
I'm
really
happy
some
of
our.
We
had
actually
16
funders
statewide,
but
there
were
about
six
core
groups
here
in
boston
that
all
stepped
up
significantly,
and
they
understood
that.
P
P
We
worked
a
lot
on.
You
know
ensuring
also
the
disabled
community
as
well,
was
getting
support,
because
again
the
technology
divide
was
huge
when
it
came
to
anyone
who
was
visually
impaired.
So
I'm
just
here
to
say
that
you
know
philanthropy
believes
in
this
and
wants
to
continue
doing
it.
They've
asked
me
to
stay
on
we've
now
sort
of
created.
Another
iteration
of
this
group
of
funders
called
the
democracy
funder
network.
We
do
not
want
the
census
conversation
to
go
away.
P
It
needs
to
continue,
and
so
I'm
even
really
happy
to
say
that
both
the
mass
budget
and
policy
center
and
mass
voter
table-
and
I
have
received
a
national
grant
from
the
census
equity
initiative,
which
is
a
national
group
to
continue
having
these
conversations
and
we've
been
doing
some
regional
briefings
talking
about
why
it's
important,
why
you
know
you
need
to
get
out
the
count
why
you
need
to
come,
why
you
need
to
pay
attention,
how
it
affects
your
community,
and
so
that's
going
to
continue-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
this
ongoing
conversation
that
we
need
to
be.
P
Having
is
to
help
people
understand
that
this
is.
It
affects
us.
It
affects
us
all
the
way
down
to
I
know
my
child
loves
school
lunch
and
the
fact
that
he
gets
free
school
lunch
every
day.
You
know
those
are
things
that
could
be
taken
away
right,
so
boston.
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate:
not
only
is
c
nationally
as
a
leader,
but
also
we're
in
conversations
with
national
groups,
both
organizing
and
philanthropy.
P
There
is
a
large
movement
movement
nationally
around
the
census,
addressing
very
specific
issues.
We've
talked
about
today
around
the
race
question
around
gender
around
household.
Those
are
all
being
addressed
right
now.
The
new
census
director
robert
santos,
is
a
researcher
and
data
specialist
and
has
already
been
on
some
national
calls
that
I've
been
on
with
philanthropy
and
organizers,
saying
we
need
to
do
things
differently.
We
want
to
work
together
the
national
foundation
group
that
we're
a
part
of
it's
funded
by
the
funders
center
for
civic
participation.
P
They
have
an
ongoing
conversation.
We
meet
quarterly
and
they've
raised
six
million
to
continue
this
conversation.
They
are
doing.
Some
state
supports
we're
not
getting
any,
which
is
sometimes
the
drawback
of
being
massachusetts
and
seeing
as
progressive
and
and
collaborative,
but
they
do.
P
They
do
ask
a
lot
for
conversation
and
to
to
to
share
how
we've
done
this
collaborative
work,
and
so
you
know,
like
beth,
said
you
know
in
the
city,
our
number,
our
self-response
rate
was
lower,
but
overall
our
state
was
higher
and
in
a
community
like
quincy,
I
just
want
to
hold
them
up
in
that
we
funded
three
different
groups
in
quincy.
They
worked
together
and
they
were
able
to
increase
their
response
rate
and
that's
just
going
to
affect
positively
quincy
for
the
next
few
years,
which
has
had
you
know
exponential
growth.
P
So
I
just
want
to
say
on
behalf
of
the
foundation
community
in
in
the
city
that
they
are
here:
they're
they're
not
leaving
they
really
care
about
this
issue.
They
want
to
work
more
with
the
city,
they
want
to
work
more
with
community
groups
and
agencies,
and
we
don't.
We
don't
see
this
conversation
going
away.
We
want
to
keep
having
it
and
it's
exciting,
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
that,
even
though
we've
seen
you
know,
we've
had
these
challenges
that
we've
faced
a
lot
of
really
good.
P
Work
also
happened,
and
we
want
to
keep
that
growth.
We
want
to
keep
that
happening,
and
the
these
philanthropic
partners
are
here
and
really
want
to
continue
the
work
and
I
plan
to
share
with
wayne
I'll,
send
the
we
have
a
final
report
from
the
math
census,
equity
fund
and
the
drawing
democracy
fund
about
redistricting
and
getting
out
the
count,
and
it
might
be
informative
for
all
of
you
to
see
that
as
well.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
this
today.
Thank
you.
Q
Madam
chair
councilor
bredon
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today
about
the
importance
of
accurate
census
and
demographic
data
for
grant
funding
and
policy.
My
name
is
tim
reardon,
I'm
the
director
of
data
services
at
the
metropolitan
area,
planning
council,
the
regional
planning
agency
for
greater
boston
created
by
an
act
of
the
legislature
in
1963.
Q
Mapc,
is
a
public
agency
that
serves
boston
and
100
surrounding
cities
and
towns
through
technical
assistance,
regional
collaboration
and
policy
advocacy
and
our
regional
plan.
Metro,
common
2050
guides
our
work
to
create
an
equitable
and
sustainable
future
for
all
of
metro
boston.
As
director
of
data
services,
I
oversee
the
agency's
work
on
data
creation,
analysis
and
its
use
in
policy
making,
and
today
I'd
like
to
talk
briefly
about
the
role
that
mapc
plays
in
improving
the
quality
of
census
data.
Q
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
we
use
that
data
to
forecast
the
future
and
how
those
forecasts
are
used
in
transportation
and
planning
and
other
policy
development,
and
I
hope
to
leave
you
with
some
ideas
about
specific
things.
The
city
can
do
with
its
own
data
to
improve
the
quality
of
census,
counts
and
support
data-driven
policy,
making
more
generally
for
my
staff
at
data
services.
Q
When
it
comes
to
census
data,
I
think
the
term
power
users
might
be
an
understatement,
we're
already
using
2020
census
data.
We
had
it
the
day
it
came
out
we're
still
using
2010,
we
use
20,
we
still
use
2000
for
some
things.
We
use
the
american
community
survey
and
pums
and
chas
and
cps
and
ctp,
and
any
number
of
other
products
that
that
other
speakers
have
described
that
that
are
based
on
that.
Q
But
the
point
of
our
work
is
not
just
to
become
experts
in
this
alphabet
soup
of
census
data
products,
but
is
actually
to
help
our
stakeholder
communities,
city
councillors,
residents,
nonprofit
organizations,
mayors
to
do
three
things
to
know
your
communities
better
to
help
anticipate
what
the
future
might
be
like
and
to
make
decisions
that
are
grounded
in
data
and
information
for
these
applications.
A
complete
count
is,
of
course,
very,
very
important,
but
just
as
important
is
accurate
information
about
the
characteristics
of
residents
and
nancy
described
a
lot
of
those
their
income,
their
age,
housing
tenure.
Q
Various
things
like
that
and
our
ability
to
like
aggregate
that
information
and
compile
in
ways
that
are
really
useful
for
communities
and
for
the
public
policy
challenges
that
they
face,
and
so
one
example
of
how
mapc
has
has
worked
on
this
and
and
tried
to
improve
the
quality
of
census.
Data
is
through
something
called
a
participant,
statistical
area
program
or
psap,
with
every
decennial
census,
there's
an
opportunity
to
change
the
boundaries
of
block
groups
and
tracks.
Q
So
those
are
the
census
geographies
in
which
data
are
tabulated
and
the
census
bureau
opens
up
this
process
to
communities.
Mapc
was
the
lead
agency
for
suffolk,
county
and
three
other
counties
in
in
eastern
mass,
and
we
worked
with
other
regional
planning
agencies
and
our
state
partners
to
coordinate
submittals
from
from
the
entire
state
and
the
principal
criteria
when
the
census
bureau
comes
to
its
local
partners,
is
that
each
block
group
and
tract
has
to
meet
certain
thresholds
for
population
and
housing
so
minimum
and
maximum?
Q
So
for
us,
when
we're
working
on
this
across
the
state
or
across
eastern
mass,
a
key
resource
was
a
a
website
called
mass
builds,
which
is
mapc's
collaborative
development
inventory.
We
have
information
on
over
5
000,
develo
housing
and
economic
development
projects
across
the
commonwealth.
We
pull
in
data
from
municipalities,
public
hearings,
news
articles,
other
sources.
We
work
with
our
partners
at
the
bpda
to
include
information
about
article
80
projects,
but
we
also
do
our
own
research,
because
not
every
project
goes
through
article
80.
Q
Not
every
project
has,
you
know,
is
required
to
some
are
in
the
future
and
and
we
collect
information
about
the
number
of
new
units,
the
type
of
unit
the
bedroom
count,
the
affordability,
various
other
things
that
are
that
are
important
to
to
you
know
as
alvaro
and
philip
were
describing
understanding.
Q
You
know
average
household
size
and
other
things
like
that
that
are
that
are
very
important,
not
gesturing
to
nancy,
because
alvaro
is
sitting
there,
of
course,
and-
and
I'm
also
proud
to
say
that
it's
really
really
comprehensive
mass
builds
is
when
we
compare
it
to
census
housing
unit
growth
from
2010
to
2020.
We
capture
more
than
90,
maybe
more
than
95
percent
of
the
net
housing
unit
growth
in
the
city
of
boston
that
we
have
enumerated
project
by
project.
Q
With
a
lot
of
those
attributes
I
described
and
we
cover,
we
have
over
70
percent
of
the
growth
for
the
entire
region.
Overall,
and
with
that
information,
knowing
at
a
very
granular
level
where
new
housing
was
created,
we
could
recommend
block
group
and
track
boundaries
that
counted
for
new
development,
while
also
meeting
the
the
census
thresholds.
Q
And-
what's
I
think,
important
for
your
purposes-
is
that,
along
the
way
we
were
able
to
working
with
bpda
and
and
and
others
at
the
city,
we
were
able
to
achieve
much
improved
alignment
of
census
tract
and
block
group
boundaries,
so,
while
census
tracts
in
particular
along
neighborhood
boundaries
in
boston,
which
I
think
you
know
has
been
an
ongoing
problem,
so
we
split
or
redrew
tracks
that
span
multiple
neighborhoods.
We
adjusted
tracks
at
the
sub-neighborhood
level
so
that
they
followed
natural
boundaries
between
different
parts
of
neighborhoods
and
the
results
will
be
census.
Q
Data
and
american
community
survey
data.
That's
more
accurate
and
less
prone
to
error
at
the
tracks
level
and
track
data
that
can
be
aggregated
to
neighborhood
groupings
that
make
sense
to
bostonians
rather
than
groupings
that
make
sense
to
people
at
the
census
bureau
in
washington
dc
and
all
of
this
was
possible
because
we
had
strong
justification
for
our
proposed
changes
in
the
form
of
mass
belts,
and
so
that
makes
it
a
really
really
important
resource
for
us.
But
it
has
other
applications
too.
Q
Not
only
because
not
only
does
it
include
information
about
development,
that's
happened,
but
it
also
includes
information
about
developments
that
are
in
the
permitting
stages
under
construction,
or
simply
just
sort
of
an
idea
that
somebody's
floated
and
this
information
is
important
when
it
comes
to
that.
Second
big
category
of
work
that
I
described,
which
is
helping
communities
anticipate
the
future
one
of
data
services.
Principal
responsibilities
is
to
prepare
detailed
socio-economic
projections,
that's
at
the
municipal
level
and
all
the
way
down
to
neighborhoods
and
sub-neighborhood
levels.
Q
But
mass
builds
then
becomes
a
really
important
component
of
that
because
we
know
where
projects
are
are
are
are
proposed,
and
so
our
model
can
account
for
new
homes
in
economic
development.
That's
that's
in
the
pipeline,
but
hasn't
been
built
yet
and
just
as
important
as
knowing
about
the
future.
It's
also
important
to
know
what's
on
the
ground
already
and
of
course,
we
use
all
that
american
community
survey
and
census
data
to
provide
accurate
information
about
the
existing
population.
Q
One
of
the
challenges
is
that
the
quality
of
this
mosaic
is
only
as
good
as
the
underlying
municipal
data,
which
varies
widely
to
say
the
least,
and
a
particularly
important
but
problematic
piece
of
information
is
the
assessor's
count
of
how
many
housing
units
are
in
each
building
or
on
each
parcel
and
often
unit
counts
are
inconsistent
with
the
property
type
code.
The
unit
count
was
totally
implausible
and
in
many
cases-
and
unfortunately
this
is
all
too
off
common
in
boston.
Q
The
number
of
units
reported
for
the
building
was
simply
zero,
whether
even
when
we
know
it's
a
100
unit
apartment
building
from
other
sources,
it
simply
doesn't
exist
in
the
assessor
data.
So,
as
a
result,
we
had
to
estimate
a
lot
of
unit
counts
on
our
own
and
we
pulled
in
a
lot
of
other
resources,
and
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
at
that.
Q
But,
of
course,
it'd
be
preferable
to
have
the
municipal
assessor
record,
be
highly
accurate
in
the
first
place
and
that
high
quality
parcel
data
is
great
for
anticipating
the
future
and
it
can
also
be
used
today
for
understanding
the
impacts
of
different
policies.
Detailed
ownership
information
can
identify
patterns
of
speculation
and
extraction
from
certain
communities.
Q
If
the
valuations
are
accurate,
they
can
be
used
to
assess
the
feasibility
of
policies
such
as
inclusionary
zoning
and,
of
course,
if
the
units
are
documented
and
and
accurate
in
parcel
data,
it
provides
another
quiver
in
the
the
the
cities
another
arrow
in
the
city's
quiver
when
they
go
to
challenge
inaccurate
census
data.
Q
Q
How
read
data
resources
such
as
mass
builds
in
the
land
parcel
database,
improve
our
ability
to
know
the
region's
communities
and
the
city's
neighborhoods
to
anticipate
the
future
and
informed
decision
making
and
and
and
to
highlight
that
the
accuracy
and
utility
of
census
data
and
all
the
other
things
that
we
use
demographic
data
for
doesn't
just
depend
on
complete
count
efforts
and
the
way
that
the
the
the
the
survey
is
structured
and
census,
bureau
outreach
and
the
challenge
process.
Q
It
depends
and
benefits
from
good
information
about
land
use
and
development
activity,
information
that
cities
and
towns
and
boston
are
in
the
best
position
to
provide.
So
as
a
result-
and
this
is
kind
of
unfortunately
in
response
to
counselor,
laura
and
counselor
mahia's
questions-
you
know
the
advice
I
would
leave
with
this
committee
is
to
consider
the
following
questions,
which
is:
what
is
the
city
of
boston,
doing
to
create
a
comprehensive
and
transparent
inventory
of
development
past
present
and
future?
A
B
You
well
I.
I
really
appreciate
all
of
your
comments.
I
particularly
appreciate
nancy's
highlighting
the
undercut
of
children.
B
I
know
from
I
was
running
for
an
election
in
2019
and
I
was
going
around
with
my
clipboard
and
I
was
walking
down
the
street
and
there
was
a
family,
a
young
family,
with
their
mom
out
in
the
front
yard,
and
the
little
one
came
up
to
me
and
she
saw
my
clipboard
and
says
we
won't
be
answering
any
questions
and
her
mom
was.
It
was
a
spanish-speaking
family
and
the
little
one,
even
in
2019
they
were
saying
some
official
looking
person
with
the
clipboard.
B
B
I
I
think
I
take
your
advisement
on
on
how
to
how
we
can,
as
a
city,
use
all
the
resources
that
are
available
in
partnership
with
philanthropy
and
ms
mepc
and
everyone,
and
working
in
this
space
to
try
and
ensure
that
we
not
only
lay
the
ground
for
groundwork,
do
the
groundwork
for
the
next
next
census
in
10
years
time,
but
also
try
and
do
some
rehabilitation
or
some
some
repair
of
of
the
deficiencies
of
this
past
census.
So
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
all
your
work.
B
F
May
I
make
a
comment
sort
of
just
jumping
off
of
what
tim
just
said
in
regards
to
the
undercount
of
young
children,
because
one
of
the
ways
they
estimate
or
they
look,
they
analyze
a
census
count
and
try
to
think
about
whether
young
children
are
have
been
counted
accurately
or
not.
Is
they
look
at
vital
statistics
data
for
the
past
year,
the
next
year,
because
our
we
do
know
that
our
public
health
data
about
child
births
is
actually
pretty
accurate
and
so
using
you
know,
tim
was
mentioning
other
administrative
data
resources.
F
That's
just
something
to
think
about
when
we're
trying
to
think
about.
You
know,
I
always
think
about
the
under
kind
of
young
kids.
You
think
about
how
many
kindergarten
classrooms
are
you
going
to
need
to
year?
You
need
in
the
next
couple
years
and
if
you're,
counting
on
census
data
that
may
have
a
significant
count,
that's
tricky
right,
but
we
can
look
to
other
data
sources
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
when
you're
you're
thinking
about.
B
I
I
get
so
excited
when
I
see
young
families
in
the
neighborhood,
because
everybody
says
we
don't
have
families
like
oh
yeah,
we
have
families,
I
see
them,
you
know,
but
it's
really
getting
a
handle
on.
What
will
that
population
look
like
in
10
years
time
and
are
we
given
the
shortage
of
publicly
owned
land
in
austin
brighton?
Are
we
are
we
being
mindful
about
what
the
needs
of
that
community
will
be
in
ten
years
time
in
term
for
for
schools
and
and
support
and
family
family
friendly
facilities?
B
B
You
know
so
I
think
I
I'm
just
really
glad
that
we
had
this
hearing
this
morning,
because
it
emphasizes
the
importance
of
of
gathering
good,
accurate
data,
especially
in
our
senses
and
as
it
informs
so
much,
but
it's
nice
to
know
that
there's
other
ways
to
come
at
it
if
we
have
to
find
a
work
around,
but
thank
you
all
for
your
work
and
I'm
excited
to
continue
this
conversation.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor,
brayden
and
counselor
mihia.
Just
before
you
came
back
tim
tim
ended
his
presentation
with
an
answer
to
your
question
earlier,
but
I'll.
Let
him
reprise
that
if.
L
Q
Yeah
so
my
my
I
concluded
with
some
advice
for
the
committee
in
the
council,
so
things
to
think
about
both
in
terms
of
getting
you
know
being
able
to
draw
good
census
boundaries
to
get
accurate
information
to
challenge
it
well,
but
also
to
do
forecasting
and
policy
analysis,
and
that
is
to
to
look
at
you
know
what
is
the
city
doing
to
create
a
really
comprehensive
and
transparent
inventory
of
development
activity
in
the
city
that
is
really
accessible
and
open
to
stakeholders?
Q
Counselors
your
res,
your
your
constituents
and
so
forth,
and
then
what
is
the
city
doing
to
ensure
that
the
information
about
each
and
every
parcel
is
accurate
and
up-to-date
in
terms
of
its
is
the
valuation
accurate?
The
unit
counts,
the
ownership,
the
condition
of
the
building
and
so
forth,
because
all
of
those
are
really
important
to
knowing,
what's
in
our
community,
what
kinds
of
policies
you
know
who
will
be
affected
by
certain
policies,
either
benefited
or
or
or
otherwise?
And
so
I
think
those
are
two.
Q
Those
are
two
sort
of
data
streams
that
are
within
the
the
purview
of
the
city,
which
are
really
really
important
not
only
to
the
census,
but
also
to
to
planning
and
policy.
More
generally,.
L
L
O
O
Questions,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
so
nancy.
First,
I
just
nancy
right.
I
wanted
to
just
uplift
how,
incredibly
and
all
I
am
of
how
diverse
your
staff
is.
O
I
think
that
that's
really
intentional,
it
seems
like
you've,
given
a
lot
of
thought
to
the
the
work,
and
so
it
definitely
is
reflected
of
the
slide.
Appreciate
it.
That's
not
a
stock
photo.
Those
are
your
people
right
now
great
photo,
and
I
really
do
appreciate
your
intentionality
around
that
effort
and
then
I
wanted
to
just
quickly
ask
okay
katie
katie,
so
I'm
really
excited
about
the
philanthropy
folks,
really
leaning
in
to
the
conversation,
I'm
curious.
O
What
if
any
opportunities
or
conversations
have
been
had
not
just
around
organizing
and
setting
the
stage
for
around
you
know
the
next
round.
But
what
are
they
thinking
in
terms
of
the
role
that
they
play
in
helping
to
fill
some
of
the
gap
in
terms
of
a
funding
perspective,
whether
it
be
providing
assistance
to
nonprofit
organizations
who
are
doing
food
and
security
work
like
how?
How
is
the
funding
community
thinking
about
the
role
that
they
play
in
helping
to
support
the
gap.
P
So
I
think,
there's
there's
a
couple
different
pieces.
The
the
collaborative
work
that's
been
going
on
for
the
last
couple
years.
P
These
folks
are,
I
mean
these
funders
fund
lots
of
different
pieces,
but
what
I've
been
working
with
them
on
specifically
is
supporting
ongoing
civic
engagement,
work
to
ensure
that
organizations
like
vast
voter
table
and
mass
vote
and
neighbors
united
for
east
boston
and
cpa
that
they
can
continue
to
work
within
their
community
to
educate
folks
to
lift
them
up.
P
So
some
of
these
foundations
also
do
direct
service
work
like
the
boston
foundation,
hiams
foundation,
so
I
know
that
they
all
being
the
progressive
funders
that
they
are
are
looking
at
all
these
pieces,
especially
in
the
city,
but
I
would
say,
like
my
experience
mostly
with
all
of
them,
is
on
this,
this
sort
of
civic
engagement
side
and
making
sure
that
this
doesn't
just
pop
up
every
election
cycle
or
every
census
right
that
this
needs
to
be
ongoing.
P
This
needs
to
be
conversation
that
we're
supporting
in
every
community
and
every
organization
that
these
are
not
just.
You
know
once
once
every
10
years
that
we
need
to
be
supporting
and
lifting
up
leaders
in
communities
constantly,
and
so
I
was
just
going
to
say
too
a
lot
of
times.
We
keep
trying
to
tell
ourselves
to
stop
saying
in
10
years,
because
it
we
have
to
start
doing
the
work.
P
Now,
that's
right-
and
I
know
the
you
know,
the
fundraising
piece
in
my
brain
will
start
in
2017,
probably
to
start
you
know
it
takes
a
while
to
raise
a
couple
million
dollars,
so
you
know
we're,
but
that's
why
we
keep
saying
we
have
to
keep
having
these
conversations
and
we
keep.
We
need
to
talk
and
bring
together
multiple
partners
who
can
address
all
these
different
pieces
to
talk
about
how
it
affects
the
school.
You
know
school
school
meals
and
the
funding
for
resources
and
the
for
the
funding
for
transportation
and
buildings,
etc.
P
P
Everybody
had
to
shift
right,
so
we
had
done
our
first
round
of
grants
the
year
before
the
census,
so
that
folks
could
be
doing
education
and
all
these
plans
that
everybody
laid
out
for
you
know:
community
events
and
door-to-door
everything
had
to
shift,
and
I
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
was
really
excited
about
talking
with
national
folks
and
then
local
is
the
a
lot
of
the
funders.
They
got
that
and
they
were
like.
Everybody
needs
to
shift
and
that's
okay,
so
it
wasn't
like
hardline.
No,
you
said
you
were
gonna.
P
P
Beth
mentioned
the
the
phone
calling
which
was
unreal,
the
amount
of
work
they
did
in
that
area
too.
So
that's
an
exciting
thing
and
also,
I
feel
much
newer
to
philanthropy
in
boston
where
folks,
we're
being
flexible
and
shifting
and
thinking
about
all
aspects
of
it.
So
I.
P
O
A
lot
of-
and
I
was
here
for
all
of
it
and
so
to
counsel
morel's
point-
I
am
deeply
invested
in
all
things
that
deal
with
civic
engagement.
It
wasn't
until
I
came
into
this
chamber
that
I
really
learned
why
so
many
of
our
people
feel
disconnected.
O
So,
if
there's
anything
that
I
can
do
to
help
support
you
all
in
your
efforts,
as
you
continue
to
build
those
outreach
efforts,
please
reach
out
I'm
here
for
all
of
it
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
way
to
be
able
to
utilize
our
platforms
to
to
engage
people.
So
please
sign
me
up
for
anything
that
you
have
coming
down
the
pipeline.
O
I'm
really
interested
in
that.
So
thank
you.
You
can
count
on
me
and
then
there
was
one
more
thing
that
I
just
wanted
to
uplift,
and
I
know
this
was
mainly
more
for
the
first
panel,
but
I'm
just
curious.
What
you
may
happen
to
know
in
terms
of
just
outreach
and
engagement
is
that
I
was
recently
in
guatemala.
O
They
are
learning
about
migration
and
climate,
and
why
so
many
folks
are
migrating
or
forced
to
live
to
leave
and
we
were
meeting
with
municipal
leaders
and
there
was
senator
hines
and
eldridge
went
alongside
the
delegation
and
during
that
time,
what
I
learned
there
was
in
guatemala.
O
Some
people
don't
even
speak.
Spanish
there's
like
24
different
dialects,
and
so,
as
we
start
thinking
about
outreach
and
engagement
and
the
connection
of
immigration
patterns,
especially
from
countries
that
they
may,
you
may
think,
because
I
did
and
I'm
always
I'm
a
curious
learner.
I'm
always
learning.
I
don't
act
like.
I
know
everything,
but
I
was
like.
Oh
my
god,
y'all,
don't
speak
spanish
and
it's
24
different
dialects.
O
So
when
you
think
about
folks
who
are
coming
here,
it's
just
another
layer
of
engagement
that
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
in
terms
of
engagement
and
I'm
also
interested
in
learning
more
about
the
little
ones
that
are
not
being
counted.
That's
also
something
that
I
find
to
be
something
that
we
potentially
could
lean
into,
especially
with
the
boston,
public
schools
and
finding
ways
to
engage
them
in
that
process.
They
were.
P
A
great
partner
in
the
in
the
count
sebastian
did
a
great
job
engaging
the
city.
I
know
I
got
to
see
stuff
come
home
and
backpacks,
and
but
the
city
did
a
great
job
in
the
schools
and.
O
If
you
don't
mind,
one
last
thing
I'll
say:
counselor
bach,
just
because
you
took
up
some
of
my
time
is
that,
as
as
we
start
thinking
about
what
else
we
can
do,
I
wanna,
I
think
I
wanna
name
that
the
council,
during
our
budget
season,
we
shouldn't,
have
to
wait
until
10
years
to
allocate
resources
for
this
level
of
engagement.
O
I
think
we
have
a
responsibility
and
an
opportunity
now
to
really
start
making
investments
in
this
conversation.
So
I
just
want
to
name
that
as
something
that
I
think
is
council
morale.
I
know
you
and
I
have
always
talked
a
lot
about
how
we
activate
communities.
O
I
think
that
the
best
way
for
the
city
to
also
do
that
work
is
to
invest
in
it.
Now
alongside
you
all,
as
you
continue
to
do
this
work,
so,
council
real,
I
think
we
should
explore
that.
Whoever
else
wants.
I
just
I
feel
like
civic
engagement
is
key
and
if
we're
not
engaging
community,
then
we're
doing
a
disservice
if
we're
waiting
for
the
10-year
mark.
So
I
agree
just
want
to
name
that.
A
J
Thank
you
to
the
panel
and
I
absolutely
agree
with
council
mejia.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
an
ongoing
effort.
You
can't
just
wait
until
you
know.
20
2030
is
among
us
and
we're
we're
scrambling.
So
whatever
I
can
do
you
know
in
terms
of
the
outreach
or
helping
to
plan,
I'm
here,
I'm
here
and
considering
me
an
ally,
but
I
do
like
the
fact
that
nancy
that
you
highlighted
that
our
young
kids
get
under
counted.
J
So
I'm
just
wondering
you
know:
can
you
can
you
kind
of
dive
into
like
the
impacts
on
you
know?
You
say
you're
missing
an
entire
childhood
right
that
that
scared
me
like
if
I
missed
my
entire
childhood,
like
I
don't
know
who
I
would
be
what
you
know
if
I
would
even
be
in
this
seat.
So
can
you
just
tell
me
about
like
the
impact
to
or
the
ability
to
ensure
all
students
have
the
access
to
appropriate
education
if
and
when
they
are
under
counted.
F
Yeah
sure,
thanks
thanks
for
the
question,
so
I
mean
there
are
lots
of
reasons
why
little
ones
get
don't
get
missed.
You
know,
for,
of
course,
kids
aren't
filling
out
the
forms
themselves.
It's
their
parents
who
are
filling
out
the
form.
So
the
question
is:
why
might
a
grown-up
choose
not
to
include
a
little
one
on
a
census
form?
Sometimes
they
don't
realize
say:
oh
my,
they
don't
care
about
the
babies.
F
You
know
my
kid's,
not
even
in
school,
yet
so
there's
these
sort
of
opportunities
for
this
constant,
continual
conversation
that
we
can
have
through.
You
know
between
the
census
years,
to
just
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
that
you
know
we
we
want
to
know
about
when
when
it's
time
for
the
census,
every
kid
counts.
You
know
that,
in
addition
to
colleges
being
shut
down
during
the
census,
you
know
child
care
is
shut
down
as
well.
F
So
those
there
had
been
a
lot
of
efforts
to
do
education
through
family
child
care,
child
care
facilities
to
you
know
encourage
at
pickup
giving
out
flyers
that
sort
of
thing,
so
that
was
another
missed
opportunity
that
was
unique
to
2020,
but
I
think
this
can,
as
as
katie
was
saying
now
and
moving
forward,
can
keeping
the
conversation
going
about
the
importance
of
the
census.
F
What
we
are
doing,
along
with
the
voter
table
and
the
census
equity
fund,
is
we're
talk
in
conversations
around
the
state,
we're
talking
with
service
providers,
the
community
action
agencies.
They
are
receiving
abcd
they're
receiving
the
federal
funds
for
wic
for
head
start.
All
of
these
federal
funds,
we're
talking
about
they're,
the
ones
out
in
the
communities
distributing
those
services
right.
So
the
extent
to
which
our
community
agencies
are
also
understand
the
impact
of
an
accurate
count
so
that
they
become
they
in
their
sort
of
in
their
their
facing
families.
F
They
are
also
aware
of
why
an
accurate
count
is
really
important
for
their
community.
So
I
think
this
continual
conversation
is
really
important
and
when
I
say
a
kid
is
missed,
you
know
if,
if
a
kid's
missing
from
the
count,
that
means
their
community
might
not
be
getting
the
head
start
dollars
might
not
be
getting
the
money
from
the
child
care
block,
grant
that
might
get
distributed
to
their
community.
Their
community
might
not
get
the
title
one
funding.
F
F
These
formulas
are
complicated,
I'm
not
going
to
pretend,
but
if
they're
not
included
their
communities
are
not
getting
enough,
and
in
fact
that
was
a
message
we
found
really
helpful
with
parents
is
helping
them
understand
that
this
was
that
the
count
brings
the
census
count
helps
bring
money
to
their
libraries
to
their
schools
that
it
that
it
goes
for
things
that
that
they
really
care
about,
and
I
think
we
as
a,
I
think
we
as
as
a
nation,
don't
understand
some
of
these
connections.
Well
enough.
J
Thank
you,
and
as
mentioned
before,
I'm
happy
you
know
to
work
with.
You
know
all
the
pa,
all
the
experts
on
the
piano
on
making
sure
that
this
conversation
is
happening
throughout
the
year.
So
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
I'm
here
and
I'll
definitely
be
reaching
out
to
you
guys
to
bounce
some
ideas
off
of
it,
and
I've
never
saw
someone's
face
light
up
as
much
as
yours.
J
Ten
when
you
talked
about
data-
and
I
do
truly
believe-
and
I
know
a
lot
of
other
counselors-
believe
that
you
know
our
policy
should
be
rooted
in
data
and
especially
the
outcomes
that
we're
trying
to
create
so
getting
that
data
right
here
in
the
city
of
boston
is
is
very
important.
A
Q
We
have
not
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
You
know,
I
think.
We've
we've
been,
you
know
working
with
bpda.
They
obviously
have
a
vested
interest
and
a
lot
of
knowledge
on
it,
as
well
as
neighborhood
development,
but
we
have
not
engaged
directly
with
the
assessors
about.
It
would
be
happy
to
do
so.
A
Yeah,
it
just
seems
to
me
like
that's
something
that
we
all
and
again
that
we
could
facilitate.
I
mean
I,
it
chimes
with.
We've
had
several
properties
in
my
district
recently
that,
for
various
reasons,
residents
have
taken
an
interest
in
and
then
have
found
that
the
assessing
data
does
not
reflect
the
reality
on
site,
so
I
think
it
would
be.
A
It
would
be
good
to
understand
what
that
problem
is
at
a
systems
level
and
try
to
address
it,
especially
because
it
can
cut
it's
sort
of
very
helpful
for
this
gut
check
right
about
like
who
did
we
actually
manage
to
reach
in
this
process,
and-
and
I
guess
just
a
question
for
all
of
you
on
that
kind
of
data
front.
A
We
have
to
literally
count
the
people,
even
though
we
have
all
these
data-based
ways
to
sort
of
know.
Who's
there,
but
then,
ironically,
we
miss
more
people,
physically
counting
them
than
we
do
in
the
administrative
stuff
by
and
large,
although
there's
also
populations,
as
we
know,
for
instance,
like
often
in
you
know,
officially
subsidized
affordable
housing.
There
will
be
people
living
in
units
who
are
not
listed
in
the
formal
administrative
data,
so
there
are
definitely
some
places.
A
It
goes
the
other
way,
but
I
just
wonder
if
you
think,
because
somebody
mentioned
the
new
census
director,
whether
you
think
there's
any
openness
to
putting
more
of
this.
These
like
database,
at
least
like
guard
rails
and
checks
like
into
the
system
at
the
census
level
like
like,
I
would
want
the
census
to
be
going
sure
seems
like
the
vital
statistics.
Data
for,
like
the
city
of
boston,
suggests
we're
getting
a
real
out
of
under
count
of
kids
and
like
have
some
kind
of
their
own
guard
rails.
A
P
My
understanding
is,
I
mean
they.
They
do
that
collaborative
piece
with
luca
already
right,
where
they
rely
on
our
state
data
to
check
all
the
addresses-
and
I
mean
that's-
the
physical
building
luca
is
the
right
right,
there's
so
many
there's
luca
and
then
what's
the
other
blankie
and
the
other
one
there's
two
different
address
processes,
but
they
do.
They
rely
on
state
data,
they
rely
on
other
sources
and
in
fact,
during
the
census
they
do
rely
on
some
other
data
to
fulfill
areas
where
they're
not
getting
the
information
they're.
P
You
know
he's
a
data
person
and
researcher,
so
they
haven't
made
any
specific
pronouncements
yet,
but
they
are,
I
mean
I
get
almost
daily
emails
from
the
census,
bureau
and
they're
making
a
lot
of
changes.
So
I
don't
know-
maybe
either
of
you
have
heard
more
clarity
from
him,
but
I
haven't
heard
like
specifics
so.
F
Susan
actually
might
be
a
really
helpful
resource
on
this
because
she
follows
this
certainly
far
more
effectively
than
I
do.
But
there
is
this.
There
are
cons.
There
is
a
national
concern
about
how
the
about
the
overall
census
under
count-
I
mean-
I
mentioned
specifically
the
undercount
of
kids,
because
it's
getting
worse
for
kids-
and
you
know,
the
american
community
survey
is
a
specified
percentage
sample
based
on
this
based
on
the
census
or
it's
a
specified
number
yeah,
and
that
becomes
a
smaller
and
smaller
percentage
of
our
total
population.
F
So
the
american
community
survey,
you
know
if
you
know
it
starts
to
have
bigger
and
bigger
kind
of
margins
of
error,
as
the
population
that's
estimating
to
so.
There
are
concerns
about
this.
I
think
in
the
demography,
community
and
people
are
trying
to
figure
things
out,
they're
talking
about
this
blended
base,
which
would
combine
it's
beyond
me.
I
really
don't
follow
it
in
detail
enough,
but
I
do
there
are
concerns.
I
mean
your
concerns
are
matched
at
the
state
at
the
national,
so
I
think
it.
F
Q
I
I
think
I
I
don't
have
any
particular
insight
on
the
you
know,
sort
of
quite
some
of
the
questions
about
sort
of
the
accuracy
of
the
counts
in
terms
of
using
other
data.
I
will
say
I
think,
for
us
the
big
kind
of
advocacy
effort
that
we're
involved
in
and
partner
with
with
regard
to
census.
Data
processes
actually
has
to
do
with
the
way
that
the
census
is
dealing
with
with
privacy
and
the
responsibility
not
to
disclose
personal
information,
and
this
is
a
complicated
topic
and
one
that
I
probably
shouldn't
bring
up.
Q
But
that
is
going
to
have
profound
and
disproportionate
impact
on
smaller
geographies
on
smaller
populations
within
a
geography
there's
going
to
be
just
fewer,
there's
going
to
be
less
information,
available,
sort
of
less
like
cross
tabulations
and
to
me
that's
actually
kind
of
the
biggest,
because
this
will
all
affect
how
the
census
bureau
tabulates
the
results
from
2020
and
the
results
of
forthcoming
american
community
surveys,
and
so
to
us
like
that's,
actually,
a
really
that's
our
focus
of
census.
Q
Advocacy
right
now
is
pushing
them
to
to
to
try
to
do
disclosure
and
avoidance
in
a
way-
that's
not
so
damaging
to
the
utility
of
the
data
and
be
happy
to
talk
with
with
you
about.
You
know
what
the
city
might
do
or
how
you
might
partner
on
some
of
that
outreach-
and
you
know
I
do
think
it's
probably
time
to
engage
our
congressional
delegation
in
this
as
well.
Given
the
the
timing
and
the
number
of
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
at
the
census
bureau.
A
A
As
we
all
know
on
the
council,
there
can
be
kind
of
like
micro
communities
that
you
really
want
to
understand
when
you're,
when
you're
trying
to
help
support
them,
and
so
it's
frustrating
not
to
be
able
to
drill
down
at
that
level.
Yeah,
and
I
think
obviously
I
mean
to
me
also
the
the
question.
That's
also
highlighted
in
the
mayor's
letter-
and
that
was
mentioned
here
before
about
sort
of
the
outdated
way
of
of
sort
of
asking
separately
about
hispanic.
Latino
identity
just
seems
to
be
like
you
know.
A
I
think
it's
it's
great
for
us
to
be
able
to
capture
the
fact
that
we
do
have
like
a
growing
multi-racial
population
in
the
city
of
boston
and
america,
but
when,
when
the
way
that
you
do,
that
obscures
like
the
detail
about
that
community
and
sort
of
turns
everything,
instead
of
being
really
specific,
turns
everything
into
like.
Oh
people
are
other
in
this
other
box,
I
mean
I've.
Seen
I've
been
seeing
people
do
the
graphs
that
compare
2020
with
2010
to
2000.
A
It's
just
like
again,
it's
not
telling
us
the
level
of
granular
detail
that
we
need
about
about
our
community.
Here
in
boston,
in
order
to
be
supportive
folks,
so
yeah
lots
of
work
ahead.
Thank
you
all
thank
you
for,
for
both
panels
to
tim
and
nancy
and
katie,
and
also
I
just
want
to
shout
out
alvaro
and
phil
from
bpda
for
hanging
out
with
us
for
the
whole
duration
of
this
three
hour
hearing
and
thanks
susan
and
all
the
counselors.
A
I
think
I
don't
see
any
public
testimony
sign
ups
in
person.
Oh
there
is
do
we
have
one
public
testimony?
Okay,
so
then
it
sounds
like
we
have
one
in
person.
So.
O
A
L
A
All
right
here
we
go
all
right:
we've
got
melissa
s,
a
former
census,
taker
you're
recognized
for
public
testimony.
You
can
go
to
either
of
these
mics
and
megan
will
turn
it
on.
I
Awesome
I'm
going
to
make
this
quick,
because
I
need
to
go
to
dunkin
donuts.
My
name
is
melissa.
I
want
to
start
by
expressing
my
immense
gratitude
to
counselor
liz
braden
for
filing
this
hearing
order
and
I'd
like
to
congratulate
her
on
her
recent
move
to
chair
of
the
redistricting
committee,
a
fun
fact.
Councillor
braiding
is
the
only
elected
official
whom
I've
prayed
was
elected
to
public
office.
So
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
sisters
of
st
joseph
of
boston
in
a
manifold
sense.
I
Boston
is
truly
blessed
to
have
counselor
braden
work
tirelessly
on
this
redistricting
process,
and
I
also
want
to
commend
the
work
of
councillor
bach
on
this
matter
as
well.
Now,
what
am
I
doing
here?
I
worked
in
person
as
a
census
taker
during
the
2020
covet
pandemic
as
required.
I
want
to
state
that
the
statements
contained
in
my
public
testimony
here
do
not
represent
the
united
states
census
bureau.
My
public
testimony
does
represent
a
proud,
born
and
raised
boston
native
dorchester
woman
by
way
of
roxbury
and
brighton,
who
experienced
the
most
significant
upward
social
mobility.
I
In
my
adult
life
after
I
was
sworn
in
as
a
census
taker
in
august
2020.,
my
sister's
job
was
obviously
not
without
challenges.
As
an
aside,
if
city
councilors
think
it's
stressful
to
deal
with
protesters
then
take
a
moment
to
consider
what
it
was
like
to
be
a
young
black
woman,
a
federal
employee
at
that
knocking
on
stranger's
doors,
asking
them
for
information
at
what
was
arguably
the
height
of
governmental
mistrust
in
the
year
2020..
I
My
testimony
represents
a
boston
latin
school
dropout
whose
math
learning
disability
dyscalculia
was
only
formally
diagnosed
during
my
senior
year
of
high
school
in
boston,
public
schools.
My
testimony
represents
someone
who
still
experiences
a
great
deal
of
math
anxiety,
yet
was
able
to
feel
confident
in
meticulously
collecting
data
for
the
census
bureau,
pursuant
of
the
lifelong
oath
of
office
to
united
states
constitution
and
the
oath
to
data
stewardship
that
I
took
when
I
first
began
working
in
the
nrfu
non-response
follow-up
unit.
I
My
testimony
represents
a
laborer,
a
dancer
and
a
working
artist
who
was
able
to
use
skills.
I
learned
as
a
dancer
to
be
able
to
approach
said
strangers,
knock
on
their
doors
and
ask
them
that
simple,
yet
profound
and
critical
question.
Can
you
give
me
your
best
guess
as
to
how
many
people,
adults
and
children
resided
at
this
census
address
on
april
1st
2020,
the
inordinate
den
of
discourse
regarding
census,
data
for
congressional
district
seats,
apportionments
and
wards,
or
whatever
tends
to
overshadow
the
manifold
uses
of
that
collected
data?
I
Not
many
people
know
that
the
census
bureau
conducts
year-round
surveys.
In
fact,
just
a
couple
months
ago,
I
filled
out
a
household
pulse
survey
in
july.
Consequently,
I
was
able
to
use
and
replicate
the
format
of
that
survey
and
write
a
draft
for
a
future
survey
questionnaire
for
boston
residents,
particularly
for
targeted
outreach
at
the
mass
and
cass
area
of
boston.
I
Trusting
my
experience
as
a
previous
census
taker.
I
wrote
a
draft
of
this
survey
after
I
had
a
very
productive
conversation
with
councillor:
frank
baker,
one
of
the
few
boston
city
council,
who's,
actually
willing
to
listen
and
speak
to
bostonians
to
collaborate
on
common
sense
solutions
to
concerns
and
problems
raised
by
constituents.
I
I
won't
spend
the
rest
of
my
time
here,
arrogating
and
aggrandizing
how
important
my
work
as
a
census
taker
was,
and
is
I'm
too
much
of
a
virgo
for
that
and
as
a
side,
I'd
like
to
wish
a
happy
belated
birthday
to
counselor
coletta,
also
a
virgo
as
any
writer
thinker
person
knows
it
is
better
to
show
not
just
tell
I
asked
this
body.
Let
me
show
you
let
the
hard-working
former
census
bureau
employees
who
were
furloughed
show
you
the
importance
of
collecting
accurate
census
data
respectfully
give
us
our
friggin
jobs
back.
I
I
asked
this
body
to
continue
to
build
upon
the
work
of
mayor
kim,
janey
and
enact
a
formal
recount
of
the
2020
census,
count
immediately,
you're,
clearly
working
on
that
appreciate
that
hire
back
all
the
previous
census.
Workers
who
were
furloughed
due
to
pandemic
panic
and
political.
At
times,
presidential
gamesmanship
and
dire
delays
make
investments
in
the
boston.
Municipal
research
bureau
create
low-income,
off-campus
housing
for
college
students
and
college
students
beyond
the
traditional
age
of
college
students,
adult
learners
like
myself,
who
take
courses
at
roxbury,
community
college
and
harvard
extension
school
think
outside
the
box.
I
The
word
census
comes
from
latin.
This
ought
to
be
an
accessible
resource
for
adult
learners
as
well.
An
accurate
census,
count
and
good
faith.
Constitutional
efforts
to
count
each
and
every
person
and
account
for
and
two
each
of
boston's
dared.
Neighbors
will
be
the
manifold
benefit
and
utility
for
not
only
2020
but
for
years
to
come,
and
I
recognize
the
separation
of
church
and
state.
But
I'm
going
to
close
with
a
portrait
of
a
daughter
of
saint
joseph
eyes,
open
to
the
world,
both
miserable
and
sinful.
I
A
Thank
you
so
much
melissa
for
that
testimony
and
for
your
service
in
the
census
in
2020.
with
that,
I
think
that's.