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City Services & Innovation Technology Hearing - Docket #1144, facility conditions of BCYF pools, and Docket #1145, lifeguard shortage at BCYF pools
A
B
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded,
it's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov,
city-council,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN
channel
82
and
FiOS
channel
964.
we'll
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
So
if
you're
here
with
us
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
up
on
the
sheet
near
the
chamber
entrance
and,
if
you're
interested
in
testifying
virtually
please
email,
Ron
Cobb,
that's
ron.cobb
boston.gov
for
the
link
and
for
all
testimony
we'll
ask
folks
to
just
state
name,
neighborhood
or
affiliation,
and
try
to
keep
comments
to
a
couple
of
minutes.
B
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
1144
order
for
a
hearing
to
address
the
facility
conditions
of
the
vcyf's
pools
to
ensure
city
services
to
all
residents
and
docket
one
one.
Four,
five
order
for
hearing
to
address
the
current
lifeguard
shortage
in
the
bcyf
pools
and
the
sponsor
of
both
these
dockets
is
to
my
left,
councilor
Aaron
Murphy
at
large,
and
we're
also
joined
here.
To
my
right
by
counselor,
Ed,
Flynn
council,
president
and
Council
for
District
Two,
we're
delighted
to
be
joined
here
today
by
a
number
of
members
of
the
administration.
B
I'll
just
read
off
the
names
of
the
panel
and
then
I'll
go
to
my
colleagues
for
opening
statements
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
So
we're
joined
by
Chief
Jose
maso,
our
chief
of
Human
Services
to
the
city
of
Boston,
commissioner
Marco
Rivera
from
Boston
Center
for
Youth
and
families,
Carrie
Griffin
executive,
director
of
our
public
facilities
department
at
Eddie,
McGuire,
director
of
operations
at
Brian,
Ford,
executive,
director
of
facilities,
management
and
Sam
depina,
who
somehow
I
don't
have
your
title
on
my
sheet.
Sam
I'm,
sorry,
but.
B
D
I
had
filed
both
these
hearing
orders
after
our
long
hot
summer
and
also
after
several
meetings
in
Charlestown
regarding
the
clarity
pool
and
realizing
that
I
felt
that
as
a
council,
we
needed
to
be
proactive
and
supportive
to
bcyf
and
the
Boston
public
schools,
and
knowing
that
two
of
the
reasons
that
many
of
our
pools
were
closed
this
summer,
one
was
because
of
service
needed
on
our
pools.
D
It
was
maintenance,
so
one
of
the
orders
is
directly
tied
to
the
conditions
and
facility
conditions
of
our
pools
and
the
other
is
the
Staffing
shortages
and
knowing
that
some
of
our
pools
we
fixed
but
then
had
to
keep
close
because
of
Staffing
shortages
So
after
talking
with
the
chair,
knowing
that
we
should
combine
both
because
we
know
many
of
you
are
going
to
have
to
be
at
both
hearings
and
answers.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
combine
the
two
another
thing.
D
I
do
just
want
to
make
sure
I
say
before
we
get
into
the
conversation.
As
all
of
us
know,
violence
is
up
or
seems
to
be
up
in
the
city,
and
we
need
places
like
our
BC
way.
Bcyf
centers,
community
centers
and
pools
open
for
our
young
kids
to
attend,
but
also
for
our
young
adults
and
young.
Our
teenagers
to
be
employed
at
I
mean
just
yesterday.
We
all
saw
how
24
rounds
were
fired
right
outside
the
Perkins
Community
Center
in
broad
daylight.
D
So
thank
you
for
being
here
and
also
to
be
supportive,
knowing
that
you
are
in
talks
with
the
union
and
how
can
we
address
the
Lifeguard
shortages
and
be
supportive
for
that
conversation,
and
it's
great
that
we're
having
this
hearing
in
December
and
not
scrambling
in
April
or
May
when
we're
hoping
the
pools
get
open.
So
thank
you,
chair
and
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
I'll
get
right
to
the
person.
Thank
you.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
Murphy
president
Flynn.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
you,
madam
chair,
and
to
council
Murphy
for
your
important
work
on
these
issues
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
that
are
here
also
for
their
important
work
on
these
critical
issues
as
well.
I
do
know.
Several
of
the
polls
that
have
been
closed
are
in
my
district,
including
the
Blackstone
School
pool
in
in
the
South
End.
E
And
what
what
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
you
know
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
work
together
and
address
shortages,
but
also
come
up
with
Solutions
of
how
we
can
work
together
during
the
budget
process
and
address
any
Financial
issues
that
we
we
might
have
that
we're
able
to
address
during
the
budget
process
of
getting
our
pools
fixed
appropriately.
So
it's
it's.
E
It's
on
us
as
city
councils
as
well
to
play
a
more
proactive
role
in
advocating
for
bcyf
polls
in
not
just
and
not
just
calling
them
out,
but
working
with
them
to
ensure
that
there
is
adequate
funding
to
to
deal
with
this
issue,
and
one
final
point
I
wanted
to
highlight.
Also
as
I
worked
with
City
councilor
at
the
time,
Kim
Janey,
then
then,
mayor
Janie,
but
one
of
my
top
priorities
over
the
last
five
years
has
been
trying
to
get
BPS
students
into
swimming
lessons.
E
I've
been
I've,
been
fortunate
to
to
have
my
children
get
swimming
lessons
that
are
private
facility
with
the
Boston,
Athletic,
Club
and
but
other
families
are,
or
rather
young,
people
aren't
as
if
aren't
as
fortunate.
So
my
kids
had
swimming
lessons
that
I
paid
for,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
important,
that
every
kid
in
BPS
also
has
that
same
ability,
regardless
of
regardless
of
their
income
and
I.
E
Think
BPS
I,
think
bcyf
working
closely
with
the
YMCA
could
be
that
vehicle,
so
I
want
to
see
us
do
more
work
with
with
students
making
sure
that
they
have
access
to
swimming
lessons.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
again
thank
you
to
the
panel
that
is
here
for
their
important
work
that
they're
doing
across
the
city.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
president
Flynn
and
I'll
just
Echo
everyone's
thanks
to
you
guys
for
being
here.
B
Think
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
often
wrestle
with
as
city
councilors
is
that
on
the
back
end
in
the
city,
things
can
be
very
complicated
and
very
sort
of
bureaucratically,
complex
and
institutional.
But
on
the
front
end
like
our
constituents,
don't
really
want
to
hear
all
that
they
just
want
to
know
whether
the
pool
is
going
to
be
open.
B
So
I
think
that
it's
great
for
all
of
us
to
be
coordinating
and
in
the
same
room.
Talking
about
this
and
I
know
that
you
know
our
pools
are
under
different
ownership
structures
across
the
city
and
different
maintenance
structure,
but
we're
glad
to
have
you
all
here
and
and
like
counselor
Murphy,
said
glad
to
be
having
this
conversation.
B
You
know
in
December
not
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
a
season
where,
what's
what's
closed,
just
closed
and
what's
opens
open
and
I
should
just
say
you
know:
we've
talked
about
this
on
a
number
of
fronts.
It's
certainly
also
true
of
our
schools.
Right
large,
but
Capital
planning
as
Carrie
Griffin
knows
well,
is
really
a
Cascade,
and
so
the
further
out
that
you
can
plan
the
better.
B
It
is
both,
for
you
know,
achieving
kind
of
operational
efficiencies
with
getting
stuff
done
and
also
just
like
setting
clear
expectations
for
everybody,
because
we
all
know
that
you
can't
necessarily
like
you
know,
throw
something
in
at
the
last
minute
if
it
hasn't
been
planned
in
advance.
So
really
glad
we're
having
this
conversation
and
with
that
I
will
throw
it
over
perhaps
I'll,
let
you
guys
dictate
the
order,
but
perhaps
first
to
Chief,
maso.
F
Great
good
morning,
thank
you
so
much
chairwoman
buck
and
council's
Murphy
and
Flint.
It's
wonderful
to
be
here
with
you
today
to
discuss
an
important
issue
and
one
that
is
close
to
my
heart.
Council
Murphy
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
you
for
your
kind
words
and
acknowledgment
of
our
bcy
staff.
Member
in
our
community,
unfortunately
impacted
by
gun
violence.
Thank
you
for
that.
My
name
is
Jose
fmaso
and
I.
F
Am
the
chief
of
Human
Services
I'm
joined
today
again
by
my
colleagues,
Martin
Rivera
Commissioner
of
Boston
centers
youth,
the
families
same
depina,
Deputy,
superintendent
of
operations
at
Boston,
Public,
Schools,
Carrie
Griffin,
the
director
of
public
facilities,
department
and
Brian
Ford
executive
director
of
facilities
management
at
the
Boston
Public
Schools
I'm.
Here,
not
only
in
my
current
role
as
chief
of
Human
Services,
but
also
as
a
former
swim
instructor.
A
swim
team,
coach
and
bcy
of
lifeguard
I
was
lucky
to
grow
up
swimming
in
Bee
squash
swimming
pools.
F
20
years
ago,
I
actually
had
the
privilege
of
being
a
lifeguard
at
the
Blackstone
Community
Center
pool
it
was
there.
I
was
able
to
establish
their
first
swim
team.
The
Blackstone
sharks
composed
of
young
black
and
brown
swimmers
out
of
24
swimmers
on
the
team.
There
were
about
18
of
them
that
I
either
had
to
teach
proper
swim
technique
or
how
to
swim
from
the
beginning.
F
The
swim
league
championship
that
year
was
held
at
the
Old
Murphy
pool
now
named
the
lady
Holleran
I,
wear
in
front
of
a
pack
crowd
our
newly
formed
swim
team
that
actually
had
no
diving
blocks
at
the
Blackstone
swim
facilities
was
able
to
finish.
Third
overall
in
the
city
has
Cinderella's
Story
of
sorts,
yet
one
that
was
grounded
in
determination,
perseverance,
ambition
and
belief.
F
I
continue
to
believe
and
I
know.
My
colleagues
share
this
belief
that
all
children
and
adults
in
Boston
deserve
access
to
high
quality,
Aquatics
facilities
and
programming.
Despite
our
commitment
to
this
aspirational
goal,
I
know
that
the
current
state
of
facilities
Falls
well
short
of
this
goal.
When
I
started
in
this
role.
Six
months
ago,
one
of
the
first
meetings
I
had
the
first
week
I
started
I
convened
with
vcyf
staff
with
about
the
state
of
the
pools
and
what
we
could
do
to
begin
to
put
our
pools
on
a
path
to
being
fully
operational.
F
Well,
I
learned
in
that
meeting
and
sense
is
that
it's
going
to
take
a
team
effort
that
includes
not
only
bcyf
staff
and
Leadership,
but
also
the
team
in
public
facilities
in
the
Boston
Public
Schools.
It
would
take
the
work
of
council
as
well,
because
this
project
is
going
to
require
both
significant
Investments
as
well
as
patients.
F
So
today,
I'm
joined
by
some
members
of
the
team
that
we're
working
with
to
restore
our
pools,
in
addition
to
the
folks
that
are
here
today,
I'm
also
grateful
for
the
leadership
and
Partnership
of
Chief
Dion
Irish,
and
for
the
mayor
herself,
who
has
already
made
pools
in
the
area
of
investment
in
a
moment.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
commissioner
to
talk
about
the
current
status
of
our
pools
and
the
challenges
that
bcyf
has
faced
historically
in
keeping
the
pools
in
good
working
order.
F
Commissioner,
Rivera
will
be
followed
by
director
Griffin,
who
will
talk
about
the
steps
we're
taken
to
address
our
current
needs
and
to
set
up
bcyf
BPS
pools
for
success
in
the
future.
As
a
team,
we
are
meeting
regularly
and
taking
steps
to
resolve
the
current
issues
in
a
way
that
is
transparent,
Equitable
and
focused
on
setting
our
Aquatics
facilities
on
a
path
to
long-term
resilience
and
sustainability,
and
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
commissioner
rivetta.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
and
good
morning
here
briefing
my
remarks.
Chief
has
already
expressed
our
commitment
and
to
Aquatics
programming,
not
just
creating
access,
but
quality
swim
lessons
and
the
such,
and
so
with
that
I'll
just
say
that
before
I
begin
so
again,
my
name
is
commissioner
Marta
Rivera
from
the
Boston
7th
Street
and
families
and
I'm
joined
today
by
my
colleague,
who
is
behind
me
Eddie
McGuire.
G
He
is
a
director
of
operations
at
bcyf,
so,
as
the
largest
provider
of
Aquatics
in
Boston,
ecyf
recognizes
how
vital
our
facilities
and
our
staff
are
to
ensure
that
our
children,
adults
and
seniors
have
access
to
pools
and
Aquatics
programming.
And
yes,
we
are
the
largest
provider,
whether
it's
a
charitable,
non-profit
or
a
private
entity.
Bcyf
operates
more
facilities
than
any
organization
and
organizations
combined.
We
operate
and
provide
Staffing
for
19
aquatic
spaces.
This
includes
19
indoor,
year-round,
pools,
two
seasonal
pools
and
a
beach
in
South
Boston
in
general.
G
There
are
efforts
underway
to
make
major
improvements
and
Investments
to
improve
the
condition
of
our
pools
and
to
proactively
maintain
and
sustain
the
the
condition
of
the
pools.
Unfortunately,
this
hasn't
been
the
case
in
the
past,
not
just
our
pool
facilities,
but
other
facilities
have
been
played
with
issues
due
to
deferred
maintenance
and
a
lack
of
proactive
plans
for
maintenance
and
maintaining
and
repairing
the
facilities
on
the
capital
side.
G
Bcyf
has
two
staff
that
maintain
our
Aquatics
facilities,
and
that
includes
the
facilities
that
are
within
BPS
in
a
minute
we'll
hear
from
our
colleagues
and
BPS
around
some
of
those
challenges
and
well
that,
with
that
I'll
turn
it
to
Carrie
and
just
want
to
again
reiterate
our
commitment
to
ensuring
that
we
have
all
of
our
our
pool
facilities,
operational
and
fully
fully
staffed.
H
Thanks
Mata
good
morning
councilors,
so
as
Mata
and
chief
maso
had
said,
we
are
currently
working
with
bcyf
on
doing
a
full
facilities,
assessment
of
their
buildings
and
their
standalones,
their
Standalone
pools
and
community
centers
in
partnership
with
BPS,
who
is
actually
doing
their
own
facilities
assessment.
That
Brian
can
speak
to
so
yes
and
we're
working
with
bcyf
on
a
number
of
projects
in
the
capital
plan.
The
Marshall
pool
the
Roslindale
Community
Center,
the
clarity
pool.
H
A
Good
morning,
everybody,
my
name
is
Brian
Ford
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
facilities
department
for
Boston
Public
Schools.
We
also
have
realized
a
lot
of
the
challenges
that
have
come
from
the
existing
condition
of
the
schools,
as
our
colleagues
have
said,
many
of
them
being
built
a
very
long
time
ago,
with
lack
of
repairs
and
repair.
Our
team
makes
an
effort
to
repair
the
mechanical
equipment.
A
That's
there,
but
maintain
an
old
infrastructure
has
been
increasingly
challenged
with
our
FCA,
which
I'm
sure
you've
at
this
point
heard
a
lot
about
it's
an
assessment
of
all
of
our
buildings.
The
current
status
of
those
buildings,
as
well
as
the
condition
of
the
pools
with
with
this
coming
out,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
have
a
full
analysis
of
what
type
of
work
is
required
to
repair
our
pools
where
our
pools
should
be
at
this
state
and
then
how
we
can
best
strategically
invest
in
them.
D
Thank
you
for
all
of
that
and
I
do
know.
After
speaking,
with
different
people,
City
Hall,
after
the
hearings
at
the
clarity
pool,
it
was
clear
to
me
that
if
the
clarity
pool
was
in
such
bad
shape,
we
probably
should
look
at
all
of
our
pools
and
obviously
found
out
quickly
that
you
guys
already
were
doing
that.
So
it's
one
of
the
things
I
learned
when
I
filed
the
hearing
that
you're
not
just
starting
these
assessments,
because
I
filed
this
order.
It's
been
ongoing
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
D
That
I
was
well
aware
of
that.
So
we're
hoping
that
this
hearing
will
just
continue
to
keep
moving
that
forward
and
then,
when
it
comes
budget
time,
like
councilor
Flynn
had
said,
let's
make
sure
that
we
have
those
assessments
and
we
can
advocate
for
the
work
that
then
will
need
to
be
done,
because
the
study
will
be
done.
But
then
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
plan.
One
thing
that
Kerry
told
me-
and
it
did
make
me
laugh
but
I
remember
it
so
true
she
was
like
we
are
planners.
D
We
don't
like
to
always
be
reacting
so,
however,
we
can,
on
the
council,
help
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
trying
to
patch
things
and
react
that
you
can
be
ahead
of
the
game
is
what
I
want
to
make
sure
this
convert
comes
out
of
this
conversation,
so
knowing
that
we're
touched
on
both
the
facilities,
so
some
of
the
questions
I
have
on
the
facilities
is.
What
does
that
timeline
look
like,
and
once
we
get
that
timeline?
D
How
can
we
be
supportive
in
those
conversations,
because
I
would
assume
that
we're
going
to
find
out
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
needed
and
not
every
pool
is
going
to
be
on
the
list
and
then
how
do
we
tie
in
the
Staffing
shortages
and
I
know?
We've
talked
a
lot
about
that,
so
I
would
like
Marta
if
you
could
touch
on
or
chief
maso
how
those
talks
are
going.
D
I
know
that
you
worked
hard
over
the
summer
and
like
lifted
some
of
the
restrictions
around
residency
and
full
time
and
others
and
tried
to
make
it
more.
You
know
a
job
that
people
wanted
to
actually
apply
to.
So
if
you
could
speak
to
us
on
how
that's
going
and
how
you
think
will
be
when
it
comes
time
to
start
hiring
more
lifeguards.
G
Great,
thank
you
counselor,
so
I
didn't
make
a
remarks
on
the
on
the
lifeguard
but
happy
to
go
right
into
that.
So
we
currently
have
29
vacant
lifeguard
positions,
and
so
we've
made
a
little
bit
of
progress
with
22
filled
and
that's
we
have
full-time
positions
at
bcy,
full-time,
year-round
positions,
which
is,
of
course
because
of
our
facilities.
It's
also
unique.
G
So
it
helps
us
in
our
operations
to
meet
the
requirements
to
open
pools,
but
we
are
still
like
our
many
municipalities
and
entities
across
the
country
struggling
to
fill
these
positions,
and
since
the
summer
we
did
lift
the
residency
requirement
for
the
most
part-time
positions.
It
is
not
our
desire
to
make
that
change.
For
the
full-time
positions
and
moving
forward,
we
do
we
are
in
talks
with
the
with
our
through
the
late
depart,
Labor
Department.
Through
the
unions.
G
We
are
trying
to
be
competitive
with
our
salaries
and
working
on
other
incentives
to
fill
those
positions
and
hope
to
have
something
to
share
more
concretely
soon.
D
Have
we
implemented
any
programs
with
our
high
schools
to
get
our
students
trained
during
the
school
year?
I
know
the
the
grow
program
at
the
Boston
police
she's
having
swimming
lessons
that
she
hopes
will
lead
to
lifeguard
training
at
the
Dorchester
house.
Now
so
wondering
if
we've
partnered
with
any
of
our
high
school
students.
G
So
we
have
a
junior
lifeguard
position
that
we've
had
for
several
years
and
we
hope
to
build
that
out.
It's
not,
you
know,
generated
a
pipeline,
a
solid
pipeline.
The
way
we
would
like,
partly
because
we
need
to-
and
we
are
committed
to
strengthening
the
our
swimmers
program
so
how
we
train
and
how
we
certify
people
to
swim
and
you
to
swim,
but
we
do
have
a
junior
lifeguard
program
that
we're
looking
to
grow.
G
D
And
before
I
pass
it
off
to
councilor
Flynn,
when
do
we
think
these
assessments
will
be
done,
and
what
are
we
already
seeing
concerns
that
we
didn't
think
we'd
be
seeing
at
certain
pools.
A
Good
morning
so
I
would
say
in
regards
to
our
assessments.
We
have
not
received
all
of
them
back
yet
we're
still
in
the
formatting
we're
expecting
a
lot
of
them
to
come
back
in
the
march
in
in
the
fall
I'm.
Sorry
in
the
spring
that's
coming
up.
We
do
have
an
estimated
amount
on
the
repairs,
so
we
do
have
a
rough
estimate
of
what
it'll
take,
but
we're
looking
for
a
deeper
dive
into
that.
So
we'll
have
to
get
back
to
you.
G
D
D
D
D
So
I
guess
I
just
want
to
be
clear
so
of
the
seven
pools
that
are
closed
right
now
connected
to
our
Boston
Public
Schools.
They
only
closed
on
the
afternoon
evening
and
weekends
or
are
they
also
closed
during
the
school
day?
If.
I
I'm
aware
that
during
the
afternoon,
so
the
ones
had
to
have
Staffing
the
school
have
used
like
the
condo
and
a
few
other
locations
have
the
ability
to
use
it
during
the
school
day.
The
problem
comes
when,
after
in
the
transition
of
hours
for
our
staff
for
full-time
lifeguards
right,
then
you
start
location
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
Marshall
and
them
have
a
program
operating
but
I
do
know.
For
example,
the
condom
does
thank.
B
And
if
folks
can,
just
if
you
can
just
wait
for
the
red
light
to
come
on
just
for
our
folks
who
are
watching
at
home
and
we
they
can
only
have
five
on
at
once.
So
if
you're
curious,
why
they
blink
on
and
off
that's
what's
going
on,
but
just
before,
I
go
to
counselor
foreign
just
to
follow
up
on
this
sorry
I'm
just
trying
to
follow,
because
it
sounded
like
the
two
that
we
had
closed
because
of
Staffing
where
the
Mata
hunt
and
the
Marshall.
B
G
Yeah
so
I
apologize,
it
was
The.
Meta
hunt
was
closed
for
maintenance,
not
stuff.
I
Reopened
over
stash
finished
repair,
some
of
the
pools
such
as
the
Marshall
and
the
Hennigan
were
closed
during
the
summer
due
to
repairs
that
needed
to
take
place.
Those
repairs
were
completed
in
the
fall
and
we've
just
been
able
to
get
the
pools
filled.
So
they're
they're
filled
the
problem
at
this
point
with
those
locations
or
specific
Staffing
that
we're
working
toward
getting
fixed
and.
I
So
another
campaign
was
done
to
try
to
get
more
lifeguards,
which
was
the
second
push
which
you've
seen
on
billboards
and
things
at
the
Chief,
and
the
commissioner
highlighted
and
now
we're
still
working
toward
getting
the
the
staff
we
operate
with
a
minimum
of
two
staff,
but
ideally
would
like
to
have
three
individuals
there
and
in
negotiations
with
the
unions.
At
this
point
for
part-time
staff.
We
are
focusing
specifically
at
for
school
sites
because
we
believe
that
that
position
fits
best
for
those,
so
we're
working
toward
that.
I
But,
right
now
the
pools
are
luckily
I
mean
the
downside
of
not
having
those
facilities
operational
were
we
able
to.
During
the
summer,
we
were
able
to
fix
a
variety
of
different
issues,
but
at
this
point
now
we're
working
to
try
to
get
the
staff
necessary
to
to
keep
them
operational.
But
we
are
looking
to
get
more
than
one
or
two
individuals
at
each
location
to
provide
a
programmatic
approach.
So
it's
like
three
people
we're
looking
for
each
pool
instead
of
just
one
or
two
hires.
B
Okay,
all
right
I
will
have
more
questions,
but
I
want
to
go
to
counselor
Flynn
councilor
fliny
of
the
floor.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
know
you.
We
mentioned
the
the
Condon
the
Blackstone
as
it
relates
to
the
schools
that
are
have
a
poll,
and
the
polls
are
in
good
shape.
We're
just
looking
for
a
life.
God
is:
are
we
doing
any
Outreach
in
terms
of
life,
God
positions
with
any
of
the
colleges
and
universities?
E
Maybe
some
of
the
students
in
the
athletic
programs
might
be
certified
as
lifeguards,
and
maybe
it
might
be
a
great
part-time
job
for
for
someone
to
to
work
several
hours
a
week
as
a
lifeguard
in
one
of
the
city's
pools
and
obviously
giving
back
they're
giving
back
as
well,
and
we
certainly
have
a
pilot
program
here
in
the
city,
but
just
kind
of
just
kind
of
thinking
out
loud
if,
if
we're
doing
any
Outreach
to
the
colleges
or
universities.
G
Thank
you
for
the
question
counselor.
So
we
have
and
that
strategy
has
worked
for
us
to
some
degree
during
the
summer
when
we
have
part-time
positions,
the
seasonal
part-time,
during
the
remainder
of
the
year.
So
after
the
summer,
as
Eddie
mentioned,
my
colleague,
Eddie
McGuire,
there's,
you
know
they
take
off
and
they're
back
to
school
and
we
no
longer
have
part-time
positions
and
they're
not
able
to
work.
The
full-time
schedules.
E
Yeah
student
student
athletes
are
another
opportunity.
Okay,
thank
you.
What
is
the
status
of
the
pool
at
Madison,
Madison
Park.
A
The
pool
at
Madison
is
operational
apparently
right
now
the
locker
rooms
are
going
through
a
renovation,
but
the
pool
itself
is
functional
recently
had
starting
blocks
put
in,
so
that
we
can
have
swim
teams
and
meets.
C
E
Okay:
okay:
where
is
BPS
in
terms
of
the
Outreach
with
the
YMCA
and
providing
swim
lessons
for
students,
especially
students
of
color?
That's
a
that's
a
major
concern
for
me.
C
Yeah,
we're
on
ongoing
conversation
with
those
Partners
I
would
be
on
Beyond
YMCA
I
would
just
cite
one
example.
On
top
of
my
head
is
the
umana
pool.
We
have
a
partnership
with
YMCA
there
and
they
help
us
in
facilitate
program
in
there,
and
there
are
some
across
the
district.
I
would
I
couldn't
recite
all
of
them
to
you
at
this
moment,
but
I
can
get
that
list
for
you.
C
C
Sure
I
would
say
that
that's
that's
an
issue
that
we're
trying
to
resolve,
based
on
some
of
the
information
that
was
shared
today.
E
C
In
a
sense
that
we
make
sure
that
throughout
the
year
we're
really
understanding
what
our
kids
bring
to
the
table
into
schools
and
their
interests,
we
make
sure
our
staff
is
really
engaging
with
them
and
their
families
about
their
interests,
both
in
the
school
academically,
but
also
social
emotionally
with
their
interests
are
as
Hobbies
if
they
want
to
participate
in
swimming
and
Athletics.
E
A
So
from
the
BPS
standpoint,
when
we
go
through
our
short
term
right
now,
as
we
get
back,
the
FCA
we'll
have
two
things
that
will
happen
out
of
that.
We
will
use
our
racial
equity
and
planning
tool
to
Overlay
the
construction
that
will
happen
in
the
school
in
the
pools
so
that
we
know
that
we
are
targeting
the
right
communities
in
the
right
order.
Another
thing
that
will
happen
is
once
we
have
a
dollar
amount
that
we
can
associate
with
the
average
maintenance
on
a
given
pool.
A
E
My
final,
my
final
question
or
comment
is
when
we
go
into
budget
debate
budget
discussion
with
the
appropriate
departments,
bcyf
BPS
I'm,
going
to
ask
BPS
how
many
students
have
received
swimming
lessons
to
date
and
how
many
students
have
not
received
swimming
lessons
to
date.
I
don't
need
an
answer
right
now,
but
I
do
want
to
have
I.
Do
want
to
have
that
information
during
the
budget.
E
That
is
a
priority
for
me
and
I'm
not
going
to
I'm
not
going
to
give
up
on
this
issue
until
I'm
satisfied
that
every
every
student
in
the
city
has
adequate
swimming
lessons.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Flynn
I
want
to
acknowledge
my
colleague,
counselor
Gabriella,
Coletta
who's
joined
us
from
district
one
I'm
going
to
ask
my
questions
and
then
I'll
go
to
her.
B
So
sorry,
just
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
clear
sense
of
where
we
currently
are
recognizing
that
there's
a
lot
about
the
details
of
where
we're
going.
That
depends
on
these
Capital
assessments.
So
just
the
13
BPS
schools
are
those
included
within
or
separate
from
the
19.
B
B
The
so
the
13
BPS
schools
are
with
pools
that
we
were
just
referencing,
seven
of
which
are
currently
closed.
Three
of
them
because
of
Staffing
are
those
inside
of
or
additional
to
the
19
full
year
round,
they're
they're
within
that
they're
within
that
okay,
that's
what
I
thought
so
so
then,
if
I'm,
just
understanding
the
whole
set,
we've
got
13
and
all
the
BPS
ones
are
indoors
correct.
None
of
them
are
the
right
yeah.
B
So
we
have
13
year-round,
indoor,
BPS,
Affiliated,
but
bcyf
maintained,
pools,
and
then
we
have
another
six
that
are
bcyf
standalone
right
right
and
then
and
then
we
have
two
that
are
that
are
outdoor
yes
and
we're.
Gonna
leave
the
beach
to
the
side,
because
I
mean
yeah,
that's
something!
Yes,
beaches
do
require
maintenance
of
a
kind,
but
at
least
they
have
fewer
mechanical
systems
Okay
so
and
so
of
these
13
that
are
indoor
that
are
BPS.
B
We've
got
three
that
are
closed,
pending
Staffing
four
that
are
closed,
pending
Capital
work
and
then
six
that
are
open,
there's,
seven
open,
seven
that
are
open.
There
are
seven
that
are
open.
How
does
that
add
up?
Because
I
thought
we
listed
Seven
that
were
closed
with
the
conda
and
the
head
again
and
the
Marshall
all
just
pending
staff.
G
So
the
nine
that
are
closed,
I'll
go
to
my
list
as
of
today
and
it's
whether
it's
it's
either
Staffing
or
again
need
for
repairs.
One
is
because
it's
currently
or
one's
currently
Capital,
so
the
Blackstone
okay.
G
Draper
is
under
Capital
Drapers
undergoing
Capital
Improvements,
the
Hennigan
is
Staffing,
okay
and
it
just
as
Eddie
explained
earlier
was
I
was
just
being
put
back
online
as
being
repaired.
The
Holland.
B
G
I
B
G
Winter,
exactly
they
only
open
11
weeks
out
of
the
year
throughout
the
summer
months.
The
clarity
was
closed
this
year,
due
to
dire
needle
renovations,
right
and
and
have
Mirabella
is
functional.
It
was
operational.
B
A
I
Yes,
I
mean
overall,
when
it
would
come
down
to
Staffing.
To
be
honest
is
that
some
of
these
pools
are
operating
at
minimum
staff
right
now,
and
so
the
ones
that
are
operational.
We
would
like
to
try
to
get
more
support
at
those
locations,
because
you
know
operating
one
or
two
lifeguards
with
respect
to
the
safety
ratios,
sometimes
lead
to
us
having
to
shut
down
pools
just
based
on
Staffing.
So
it's
not
just
that
those
locations
are
closed
because
of
Staffing,
but
the
other
locations
are
also
struggling
with
for
staff.
I
B
Got
it
and
is
there
so
when
I
look
at
the
five
that
are
shut
for
Capital
reasons
right
now,
three
of
them
are
BPS
and
am
I
right
in
in
Remembering
Dr
Ford
that
the
director
for
it
that
the
the
BPS
facilities
assessment
that's
due
to
be
done
about
a
year
from
now
right,
because
it
was
an
18-month
thing
or.
B
Okay,
so
you
should
have
a
pretty
clear
sense
by
by
the
early
summer
of
everything,
okay
and
then,
but
on
any
of
those
three
BPS
ones
right
now,
the
Holland,
the
Blackstone
and
the
Mata
hunt
are
there
any?
B
B
B
There
are
things
that
you
guys
probably
already
know
what
the
project
is,
but
it's
pending
fy24
capital
budget
approval
and
then
there's
things
that
you
don't
yet
know
what
the
project
is
and
you're
waiting
on
assessments
and
I'm.
Just
trying
to
understand
where
all
of
the
pools
are
on
that
spectrum-
and
it
might
be
you
know,
I-
might
follow
up
with
you
guys
to
just
check
our
work
after
and
understand,
make
sure
the
council
understands
because
again,
I
think
you
mentioned
right,
you
need
the
council's
patience.
B
You
also
need
our
collaboration
and
the
funding
side
and
I
just
I
want
us
to
I.
Think
I
would
love
to
have
come
out
of
counselor.
Murphy's
hearing
is
just
like
kind
of
a
clear
sense
of
where
everything
is
on
that
Spectrum.
So
that
nobody
feels
surprised
about
where
we
are
with
these
different
ones,.
F
It's
a
great
suggestion,
I
think
that's
something
that
you
could
definitely
work
towards,
providing
for
sure
I,
like
the
way
that
you
actually
put
them
stories.
I,
think
that
would
be
helpful
for
us
too.
So
thank
you
for
that.
H
Yes,
that
that
is
scheduled
to
complete
in
March
up
to
2023.
this
March,
but
there
are
also
two
other
capital
projects
in
the
pipeline
for
the
matter
hunt
to
do
with
code
and
life,
safety
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
the
school
or
the
community
center.
So
I
can
clarify
that.
Okay.
H
B
I
Holland's,
not
a
capital
project,
it
needs
repairs,
there's
issues
with
the
filtration
system
and
then
one
of
the
wall
anchors
fell
out
so
which
is
it
puts
up
the
line.
So
that
is
something
that
we've
assessed
and
looking
to
work
with
BPS
to
have
repaired.
The
way
I've
been
in
conversation
with
them
about
that.
I
I
An
overall
assessment
is
being
done
of
the
facility,
along
with
our
staff,
to
make
sure
that
we've
acknowledged
and
identified
issues,
but
it
it
could
be
possible
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
to
BPS,
but
that
it
would
be
something
later
on
the
line
that
would
need
a
capital
Improvement
based
on
the
amount
of
work.
So.
B
What
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
with
the
Holland?
Yes,
it's
will.
We
know
what
work
we
are
commissioning
on
the
Holland
before
the
full
facilities
assessment
comes
back
or
are
we
it
does?
It
sounds
like
maybe
we're
waiting
on
that
complete
assessment
before
we
commission
any
repair
work
on
the
Holland.
Is
that
true,
no.
A
So
what
what's
happened
from
bcyf
is
they've,
given
us
the
full
scope
of
work
from
their
employees,
understanding
of
what's
happening
with
it,
and
currently
our
team
is
still
working
to
understand
a
deeper
scope
of
work
and
put
a
dollar
amount
on
it,
so
that
we
can
actually
send
it
out
to
be
contracted
depending
on
that
dollar
amount
will
depend
on
the
plan
that
we
take
for
action,
but.
B
F
A
So
for
the
Blackstone
we've
assessed
that
it
actually
needs
a
significant
amount
of
repairs
right
now
estimated
to
be
over
five
million
dollars,
but
we
definitely
need
a
deeper
dive.
The
building
overall
has
been
submitted
for
msba
project
is
waiting
to
hear
back
from
that
to
see
if
it
will
cover
the
work
for
the
pool
as
well.
B
Overall,
big
and
core
okay,
core
project
yeah,
didn't
we
what
was
was
the
issue
with,
because
we
had
that
whole
issue
about
the
exclusions
of
the
immersive
pool
with
the
Carter.
Was
that
related
to
the
fact
that
it
was
like
a
special
ed
pool,
or
did
we
already
run
this
game
on
the
Carter?
Do
you
remember
Carrie.
H
Yes,
no,
we
did
get
for
reimbursement.
We
did
get
the
square
footage
of
the
pool
included
for
the
cutter,
which
is
not
typical
for
the
msba,
but
we
did
get
that
because
it's
so
entrenched
in
the
programming
of
the
building
for
the
children,
but.
H
Don't
think
we
would
get
it
included
for
this
one
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure,
but
typically
no,
they
would
not.
B
Yeah
and
I'm
just
pushing
on
that,
because
the
last
thing
I
want
us
to
do
is
is
stop
not
work
on
figuring
out
how
to
solve
the
Blackstone.
For
you
know
a
year
while
we
find
out
whether
the
msba
is
doing
it
for
us,
and
then
it's
like
well,
even
if
they
are
doing
the
core
thing,
they're,
not
paying
for
our
pool
repair,
anyways.
C
You
know,
regardless,
regardless
there's
a
a
portion
of
the
overall
cost
that
we
would
have
to
absorb
anyway.
So
we
would
absorb
what
we
could
control
and
that
would
probably
be
one
of
the
areas
that
we
would
have
to
cover
and
msba
would
not
be
impress
us
for
that.
C
Board
right
so
if
we
do
a
whole
building
renovation
or
reconstruction,
that
would
all
be
part
of
one
full
swoop
that
we
do
with
all
the
construction.
But
if
we
need
to
do
a
piecemeal,
we
need
to
get
the
pull-up
up
and
running.
We
would
do
it.
I
think.
The
high
level
summary
is
where
we
can
do
immediate
repairs
to
pools
to
get
them
up
and
running
offline
quicker.
We
will
do
that.
We
can't
we
would
delay
it
for
one
of
these
larger
projects.
Great.
B
G
B
And
that's
one
where
you
think
Marta
that
it's
really
wrapped
by
the
spring.
It's.
G
H
He
ran
into
some
issues
with
the
pool
it
was
never
called
to
replace
the
whole
liner
during
when
we
were
doing
construction
I'm,
not
sure
why
that
was
before
my
time
as
the
Director,
but
a
decision
was
made
and
when
we
went
to
look
at
the
when
we
went
to
the
pool
was
beyond
repair
with
the
amount
of
deterioration
and
holes
in
the
liner.
So
we
made
a
decision
and
we've
had
some
difficulties
with
securing
a
vendor
that
can
do
the
work.
We
also
had
some
areas
with
some
lead
time
issues
with
the
material.
H
F
H
Liner,
yes,
yes,
that's
the
goal
and
we
will
we
would
right
now.
The
schedule
is
showing
June
20th
for
opening.
B
Okay,
got
it
and
then
are
there
any
of
the
pools
that
are
open,
so
I'll
bracket,
the
clarity
for
a
minute
I
know
we
had
a
whole
hearing
about
that
and
I.
Don't
think
I'm
gonna
go
to
counselor
Coletta
in
a
moment,
so
I'll,
let
that,
but
are
there
any
of
the
pools
that
are
open,
plus
the
Mirabella,
which
obviously
isn't
open
because
of
its
seasonality
that
we
kind
of
have.
We
are
expecting
like
to
have
to
close
for
Capital
reasons,
bracketing
staff,
we
don't
know
where
we're
all
going
to
be
with
staff.
B
I
We're
aware
of
pools
that
have
multiple
issues
at
at
hand
that
we
have
tried
to
repair
with
respect
to
some
of
the
standalones.
You
know
the
Mason
pool
has
liner
issues.
I
The
Mason
pool
has
liner
issues
a
variety
of
these
Standalone
pools.
I
mean
Curtis,
Hall
is
fine,
but
the
Mason
pool
definitely
has
some
work.
That
needs
to
be
done.
Overall,
it's
one
of
the
highest
utilized
pools.
I
B
Yeah,
so
I
think
it
would
be
great.
This
is
this
probably
creates
another
bucket,
which
is
anticipated.
Project
need,
because
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
do
right
is
balance
the
need
for
these
projects,
with
the
need
to
keep
pools
open
in
every
region
of
the
city
and
so
I
think
just
us
understanding
like
and
again
giving
people
the
heads
up
of
like
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
close
this
pool
because
we
got
to
repair
the
liner.
B
At
the
moment
of
closing
each
of
the
pools
so
anyways
those
those
are
my
questions-
I
will
try
to
put
together
what
I've
understood
from
today
and
then
maybe
would
love
to
get
that
from
you,
Chief
and
kind
of
check
our
work
and
make
sure
we're
all.
On
the
same
page.
F
For
sure,
just
double
checking
so
I
appreciate
you
elevating
that,
so
it
sounds
like
there's
six
categories
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
so
it's
open
fully
functional
open
with
anticipated
repairs
in
the
future
capital
projects,
unknown
capital
projects,
and
then
we
have
repair,
meaning
like
immediate
repairs
and
then
six
one
is
closed
due
to
Staffing
right.
So
those
are
six
categories
that
I
was
able
to
capture
I.
Think
that's
a
really
great
point
in
the
facilities
assessment.
F
You
find
out
that's
just
large
issues,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
to
your
point-
and
that
was
one
of
our
lessons
learned
this
past
year,
how
to
communicate
in
advance
and
not
to
spring
it
and
saying
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
offline
for
any
particular
season
or
amount
of
time.
So
were
there
any
more
categories
or
were.
F
B
Yeah
and
I'll
go
now
to
counselor
Coletta.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
chair
hi
everybody
hi
again
after
many
conversations,
hi
Eddie
Hi
how.
I
J
You
I'm
doing
well
I
hope
fatherhood
is
treating
you
well.
J
Awesome,
thank
you
councilor
Murphy,
for
bringing
this
to
the
council.
So
we've
talked
a
lot
about
pools
in
my
district
and
apologies
I'm
a
little
sick,
so
I'm
going
to
stay
far
away
and
keep
my
time
speaking
to
a
minimum
and
apologies.
If
my
questions
are
redundant
because
I
was
late
and
apologies
for
being
late
as
well.
J
I'm
gonna
take
my
time
just
wrapping
up
a
few
loose
ends.
Only
because
we've
had
multiple
conversations
around
pools
in
my
district
I
feel
like
we
achieved
the
hat
trick
in
my
district,
where
the
clarity
pool
in
Charlestown
was
closed.
Without
Really,
any
notice
and
I
know
that
that's
something
that
we
inherited
here
all
of
us
because
of
Decades
of
mismanagement
and
bad
decisions.
J
The
Parish
Street
pool
is
going
through
a
renovation
right
now
and
is
going
to
be
absolutely
beautiful
by
the
time
it's
done,
but
we
are
still
I
think
nine
months
behind,
of
where
we
really
should
be
due
to
RFP
issues
and
things
that
should
have
happened
that
didn't
and
then
the
Mirabella
pool
was
at
risk
of
closing
down.
During
its
biggest
weekend,
it's
a
beloved
pool
in
the
North
End
because
of
staffing
issues,
and
we
didn't
have
enough
lifeguards,
and
so
that
was
something
commissioner
that
we
avoided.
J
So
thank
you
so
much
I,
remember
being
on
the
phone
with
you
and
saying,
if
I
have
to
lifeguard
this
weekend,
I
will
you
also
said
the
same
thing?
I
know
we
can't
do
that.
Just
put
that
on
the
record,
but
that
was
avoided.
So
I
do
appreciate
that
and
Carrie
you've
been
working
really
really
hard
to
get.
My
district
back
on
track
and
chief
you've
always
been
a
valued
partner
in
this
work
in
Eddie
as
well
too.
I
want
to
give
you
a
shout
out
and
Sam
right
Sam.
J
Thank
you
for
the
amount
of
pool
that
was
also
something
that
was
ringing.
The
alarm
bells
in
my
district
because
East
Boston
high
school
has
been
waiting
for
the
Paris
Street
pool
for
months,
and
we
have
a
strong
advocate
in
Dave
aronella
who's,
East,
Boston,
high
school
swim,
coach
who's
been
calling
me
for
for
months,
trying
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
and
when
they
didn't
have
the
amount
of
pool
they
didn't
have
a
space,
and
so
that
was
something
that
we
avoided.
J
So
thank
you
just
when
it
comes
to
the
looking
at
my
notes,
so
the
junior
lifeguard
program.
That
was
something
that
my
chief
of
staff,
who
was
here
had
told
me
that
you
had
mentioned
Martha
I'm,
really
excited
about
that
and
I'm
wondering
just
because
it
always
has
been
difficult
for
us
to
attract
and
retain
folks
because
of
the
funding
levels.
I
mentioned
that
it's
you
can
get
more
money
and
earn
more
by
scooping
ice
cream
at
jplex
than
lifeguarding
and
there's
something
fundamentally
wrong
about
that.
J
So
I
wanted
to
know
how
we
are
funding
that
and
how
much
money
we
anticipate,
paying
folks
and
just
teeing
up
budget
cycle
for
next
year.
What
that
might
look
like
and
then
how
much
money
yeah
just
what
that'll
look
like
ahead
of
next
year
and
how
much
money
we
will
be
paying
these
folks.
G
I
It
is
it's
like
an
intern
position
in
order
for
you,
so
a
lot
of
the
they
come
in
and
they
intern
under
these
lifeguards
get
the
skill
set
and
then
train,
typically
under
bcy,
up
to
to
get
like
at
the
training
necessary
to
become
a
full-time
lifeguard.
So
they
assist
in
observations
of
the
pool
and
things
not
necessarily
rescuing
because
they're
not
of
age
so
to
we've
lowered
the
well,
not
lowered
it,
but
typically
we
aim
to
have
lifeguards
at
like
16
to
18
and
16
is
really
the
bare
minimum.
I
A
lot
of
these
interns
are
below
that
age,
okay,
and
so
they
don't
have,
but
it's
a
pipeline
that
we've
used
we've.
Unfortunately,
like
everything
else,
though
I
mean
with
the
commitments,
we
have
seen
a
little
decrease
in
participation,
unlike
in
years
before
so.
Overall
Staffing
situation
is
they're
kind
of
in
the
same
boat.
Okay,.
I
J
Needed
to
occur
okay
and
then
the
hours
spent
at
the
pool
would
go
towards
their
lifeguard
certification,
they've.
I
Always
been
given
preference,
especially
if
they
have
experiences
what
I've
been
told
and
Jeff
Mackey
and
Tony
Rosario
have
done
a
fantastic,
especially
Tony.
I
know,
as
a
okay
I've
been
focusing
on
this
for
a
long
time.
Do.
J
We
intend
to
just
going
back
to
the
to
the
I
guess
trained
lifeguards
or
real
life
guards
are.
Do
we
anticipate
giving
them
a
raise
in
trying
to
retain
those
folks
and
attract
new
folks
from
maybe
like
the
Suffolk
swim
team,
bu
swim
team
I'm
just
trying
to
get
creative
here
and
try
to
figure
out
how
we
can
avoid
this
next
year.
G
Yeah
so
this
past
summer
we
did
increase
the
seasonal
lifeguard
position
pay
and
we
also
went
to
The
Residency
commission
to
waive
the
Boston
residency.
We
are
in
the
process
of
increasing
the
salaries
of
our
year-round.
H
G
J
J
Would
you
all
be
able
to
give
an
update
on
the
general
timeline
of
of
where
you
think
will
be?
It
doesn't
have
to
be
month
by
month,
but
maybe
going
into
next
year
what
that
looks
like
from
January
to
June
and
then
June
to
December
of
next
year.
H
Thank
you
Council
for
questions
so
right
now.
The
way
we're
looking
at
the
schedule
is
three
phases.
The
first
phase
would
be
demolition.
Second
phase
would
be
a
partial
opening
in
the
summer
of
2024,
with
the
pool
and
the
filtration
system
up
and
running,
and
then
do
some
temp
facilities,
and
then
the
third
phase
would
be
a
final
turnover
with
the
pool
house
with
fully
compliant
accessible
code
compliant
building.
H
H
In
terms
of
because
this,
if
we
want
to
maintain
our
schedule
like,
we
don't
need
Community
feedback
for
demolition,
so
both
designs
will
be
working
concurrently
and
we
would
like
to
because
the
the
dollar
value
we're
going
to
put
out
the
demolition
of
the
pool
and
the
interior
and
the
filtration
all
underground
piping
and
then
in
June
put
out.
That
would
be
sorry
that
would
be
April
for
demolition
start
demoing
in
the
summer.
Put
it
at
the
same
time
we'll
put
out
the
bid
set
for
the
new
pool.
H
We
figured
that's
six
to
eight
months
worth
of
work
with
the
filtration
system,
and
that
would
be
up
and
running
for
the
summer
of
2024
at
the
end
of
the
season.
We'd
shut,
it
down
finish
the
pool,
and
then
you
know
the
schedule
right
now
is
reflecting
February
of
2025
being
completely
done,
but
they'll
have
their
whole
building
everything
back
for
The,
Following,
Season,
okay,.
J
So
the
pool
house
is
what
we're
really
looking
at
in
2025
as
being
okay,
and
would
would
that
renovation
have
any
with
that
renovation
get
in
the
way
of
any
sort
of
operations
for
the
pool
or
to
have
folks
fully
enjoy
the
pool
in
2024.
J
H
Think
the
construction
won't
get
in
the
way
we
would
we
would.
The
way
we
put
this
out
to
bid
would
be
that
in
that
manner,
so
that,
with
the
expectation
that
we're
not
going
to
have
the
building
100
complete
I
mean,
if
we
can,
you
know,
accelerate
the
schedule.
Of
course,
we
want
to
turn
everything
over,
but
the
way
that
the
current
industry
is
and
what
we're
seeing
on
lead
times.
H
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
the
pool
house
and
the
pool
so
we're
planning
for
just
the
pool
and
filtration
and
some
temp
showers,
so
that
we
can
give
the
community
back
their
pool
for
the
summer.
Well,
we're
also
doing
the
pool
house
that
will
never
stop.
That
will
continue.
J
Thank
you.
I
know
that
there
was
a
commitment
to
not
have
the
community
center
go
there
to.
Thank
you
chief
for
that.
I
think
that
the
one
thing
that
is
missing
or
something
that
was
not
really
made
clear
to
folks
and
shout
out
to
friends
of
the
courty
pool
I
think
some
of
them
are
listening
in
and
I
just
want
to
thank
them
for
their
advocacy.
But
the
the
lease
is
a
huge
thing
where
it's
up
in
2024,
I,
believe
and
so
they
they're
concerned
and
they've
heard
you
know.
J
Yes,
we
will
sign
a
yes,
we
will
sign
it.
I
think
they
want
to
have
something
tangible
in
their
hands
of.
We
will
have
this
land.
This
land
will
be
ours,
we'll
resign,
the
lease
or
something
so
that
we
could
have
it
in
perpetuity.
Has
there
been
any
movement
on
that
or
any
additional
conversations
that
we
could
put
here
on
the
record?
Thank.
G
J
So
many
pools
in
my
district
Parish
Street
pool
you
were
able
to
give
a
general
update.
Thank
you
for
that.
You
said
that
there
was
something
wrong
in
the
or
there
there
wasn't
something
made
explicitly
clear
about.
The
lining
was
that
in
the
RFP
that
that
was
missing
or
did
how
was
the
RFP
framed
and
who
put
that
together
and
also
what's
the
process
moving
forward
now,
to
make
to
make
sure
that
we're
Contracting
effectively
and
we're
not
wasting
all
this
time
on
the
back
end.
J
H
The
original
and
I
can
only
surmise
that
it
was
due
to
budget
that
that
this
scope
in
terms
of
doing
a
complete
new
liner
for
the
pool,
so
there
was
a
percentage
of
patching
that
was
owned
when
we
went
to
patch
the
the
the
shell
itself
completely
deteriorated,
so
you
couldn't
even
weld
to
the
what
was
existing
there.
H
So
you
know
we
again
in
terms
of
the
it
would
be
everything
that
we
do
is
149
or
149a,
so
it
was
not
included
in
the
design
and
I
I
believe
that
was
intentional
at
the
time.
I
I
don't
know
when
this
went
out
to
bid
but
yeah
this
this,
it
should
be
at
a
minimum
that
we
would
be
replacing
all
liners
pull
structures.
H
When
we
go
in
to
do
the
pool,
pools,
I
mean
the
pool's.
The
whole
point,
I.
J
Think
we've
all
become
Pool
Experts
the
last
couple
of
months.
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
it
takes,
including
the
lighting,
which
is
something
I
had
no
idea
about
I.
While
we're
talking
about
maintenance
structures
and
just
reviews
and
Audits
and
I
appreciate
the
chairs
question
about.
Are
there
any
future
problems
or
do
we
see
anything
happening?
I
have
to
ask
I
think
the
only
remaining
pool
in
my
district
is
the
Charlestown
High
School
pool,
which
is
why
I'm
going
to
look
to
you.
While
are
there
any
issues
that
you
see
there?
J
A
A
C
B
Thank
you
so
much
councilor
Coletta,
we've
also
been
joined
by
councilor
Michael
Flaherty
at
large
and
I'll
go
to
him
now
for
his
questions.
K
Yeah
I
was
listening
to
the
first
half
in
my
office,
so
most
of
obviously
my
colleagues,
questions
have
been
answered
as
a
Citywide,
Council,
obviously
I'm
I
know
the
the
importance
and
the
significance
of
our
pools
across
the
city
want
to
come
here
personally
to
to
thank
each
of
you,
Carrie
Jose,
Mata,
Brian,
Sam
and
Eddie
for
the
work
that
you
do.
I
know
how
deeply
you
care
about
the
youth
in
our
city
and
the
work
that
you
do
collectively:
schools
and
community
centers,
and
also
in
Property
Management.
K
So
with
that
I'm,
obviously
looking
to
partner
glad
that
we're
getting
our
heads
around
the
pools,
the
maintenance
schedules,
the
repairs,
the
construction,
the
Staffing
I
think
is
alluded
to
really
a
salary
and
training.
Obviously,
is
a
piece
of
that.
Let
us
know
how
we
can
help,
especially
because
we've
we've
got
some
dough.
We've
got
the
Opera
funds
and
also,
as
we're
heading
into
the
budget
process,
the
more
we
know
about
sort
of
some
of
the
capital
issues
and
concerns
the
more.
K
We
obviously
want
to
dig
in
and
try
to
find
a
way
to
solve
the
problem
so
and
you
folks
particularly
Kerry,
you
probably
know
it
better
than
anyone.
You
know
I'm
sitting
here.
Is
it
should
it
be,
should
they
be
concrete,
should
they
be
composite,
should
be
they
vinyl?
Should
they
be
tile?
You
know:
where
can
we
get
the
the
longest
amount
of
time
and
Longevity
out
of
the
materials
that
we're
using
I
mean
so
and
then?
K
What
is
all
that
so
leave
that
up
to
you
in
in
your
team,
but
this
is
just
an
opportunity
for
me
to
come
out.
You
know
right
before
the
holidays,
just
to
say
thank
you
all
for
time
and
attention
that
you
put
in
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
its
residents
and
again
just
look
forward
to
partnering.
We
know
what
the
issues
are.
We
know
that
we
had
a
number
of
pool
closings.
K
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
when
you
think
of
percentage
for
Youth
and
families,
and
even
you
think
about
our
schools.
You
don't
think
that
there's
as
close
to
20
I
think
there's
close
to
20
pools
two
three.
K
Maybe
four
beaches
that
well
there's
a
big
beach,
but
you
have
some
stuff
over
in
each
is
that
then
you
had
a
couple
you
had
in
one
I
think
there's
one
you
have
one
of
an
Easter,
you
part
of
any
of
the
stuff
over
there
in
the
community
said
so,
but
you
think
about
that.
You
think
about
the
sort
of
the
magnitude
that
you
that
you
deal
with
and
and
to
be
very
Frank
a
lot
of
it
over
the
years
has
been
sort
of
a
patch
and
play.
K
You
know
it's
been
a
while
look
at
this,
so
let's
try
to
let's
just
patch
it,
let's
just
patch
it
and
I
think
a
lot
of
times,
it's
not
just
with
centers
for
Youth
and
Family
in
our
schools
with
respect
to
our
facilities.
But
you
come
into
buildings.
We
have
an
aging
Fleet.
If
you
will
I
mean
even
this
building
alone.
K
The
minute
you
see
something
it's
like,
if
you
can,
if
you
can
get
away
with
duct
tape,
you're,
probably
better
off,
because
if
you
don't,
then
it's
going
to
be
a
whole
other
a
whole
other
project
and
and
it's
going
to
cost
a
lot
more
money.
So
again,
getting
to
the
point
of
that
people
were
trying
to
do
the
best
they
can
and
to
stretch
the
dollar
and
during
the
cycle
that
we've
had
some
good
Economic
Times
we've
had
some
bad
Economic
Times
we've
had
resources.
K
So
if
there's
things
that
you
guys
know
or
things
that
you
need
and
let's
try
to
find
a
way
as
the
legislative
branch
of
city
government
through
opera
or
through
a
budget
process
to
to
put
the
best
products,
we
can
out
there
idea
within
obviously
the
confines
that
we
can
do
so
and
again,
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
B
D
I
did
just
want
to
follow
up
on
something.
President
Flynn
had
said
about
his
commitment
and
I
know.
I've
said
it,
and
we've
talked
a
lot
on
this
Council
this
year
about
making
sure
that
every
resident
has
swimming
lessons
or
access
to
Safe
swimming
options
and
I
learned
how
to
swim
at
the
Murphy
School.
D
But
it
was
on
the
weekends
or
at
night,
because
I
know
also
as
a
teacher
there
for
many
years
it
was
only
the
fourth
graders
and
above
and
then
when
we
went
K-8
it
was
just
the
middle
school
and
the
kindergarteners
and
as
a
kindergarten
teacher,
there
often
wish
that
that
was
offered
to
the
little
ones
to
learn
how
to
swim.
D
I
know
that,
there's
only
so
many
classes
the
teachers
can
take
on
so
not
trying
to
add
more
classes
to
our
dedicated
swim
teachers,
but
when
we
look
at
the
options
during
the
school
day,
what
children
have
for
swim
lessons
to
making
sure
that
we're
also
balancing
that
with
options
after
school
was
talking
with
someone
from
the
YMCA
the
other
day
and
thinking
about
kind
of
like
that
metro
library
card.
D
So
thank
you
for
always
everyone
here
who
would
answer
my
call
to
make
sure
that
I
understood,
but
quickly
understood
where
the
full-time
positions
and
being
so
understaffed
that
many
of
your
full-time,
loyal
employees
may
be
a
position
opened
at
a
pool,
and
you
wanted
to
offer
them
that
position
if
they
were
able
to
either
take
that
management
position
or
move
from,
say
the
matapan
pool
to
the
Draper
pool,
because
then
they
could
work
days,
because,
if
you're
as
you
know
or
if
you
don't
know
those
listening
any
of
the
bcyf
pools
attached
to
the
school,
don't
open
until
the
afternoon.
D
So
if
you're
a
full-time
lifeguard
at
a
bcy
at
pool
you
work
afternoon
and
evenings,
you
don't
work
in
the
morning.
If
you're
a
standalone
pool
like
the
Draper
or
others,
you
get
to
work
during
the
day.
So
knowing
that
you
want
to
be
good
to
the
staff
that
has
stuck
on,
but
then
that
sometimes
meant,
as
you
were,
trying
to
piece
together
just
making
sure
that
pools
were
able
to
stay
open,
that
we
do
also
have
to
allow
our
staff
that
is
working
through
this
option.
D
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
known
and
knowing
that
that
just
added
to
more
of
the
stress
you
all
had
so
I
mean
the
bottom
line,
is
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we
can
just
hire
more
lifeguards
and
knowing
that
we
will
and
I
appreciate
what
council
of
Flaherty
said
and
I
know.
All
of
the
colleagues
who
have
showed
up
to
this
hearing
have
said
that
we're
here
to
partner
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
part
of
the
solution.
D
So
thank
you
for
that
and
I
will
just
ask
one
quick
question
on
the
way
out,
but
they
heard
a
lot
when
we
talked
about
the
Clarity
pool
that
the
Marabella
pool
do
we
know
at
all
what
condition
it
was
in,
because
I
was
hearing
that
maybe
it's
in
worse
condition
than
the
clarity
or,
but
knowing
that
the
assessment
has
a
comeback,
because
that
was
just
another
part
of
kind
of
the
rumor
mill
that
we
were
hearing
when
they
started
to
have
these
hearings.
I
The
pool
is
operational.
Still,
there
are
issues
with
the
society.
Can
you
just
speak
into
the
mic?
The
pool
is
operational
still.
It
is
not
anywhere
near
the
same
condition
as
Clarity
pool,
but
we
have
identified
an
issue
in
the
suction
pipe
that
led
to
an
electrical
fire
over
the
summer,
and
so
that's
been
highlighted
not
only
for
the
chief
and
everybody,
but
the
administration
they're
aware
of
it
we're
assessing
what
the
the
next
steps
are
for
those
for
those
repairs,
but
the
pool
can
be
filled
and
operation.
B
Thanks
so
much,
and
just
one
further
question
from
me
on
the
on
the
Staffing
front,
I
know
you
guys
mentioned
being
in
conversations
with
your
unions,
like
just
without
without
getting
into
the
details
of
proposals
on
the
table
like
what
are
the
broad
big
picture
like
potential
solve
fors
here,
besides
just
paying
everybody
more,
which
is
obviously
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
across
the
board
right
now,.
G
Yeah
so
certainly
wages
other
incentives
again
as
some
of
they've
done
at
the
state
to
retain
to
to
entice
people
to
sign
on
and
also
Eddie
made
mention
of
part-time
positions
and,
again,
all
still
in
conversations
to
try
to
create
an
opportunity
for
some
of
the
part-timers
and
seasonal
employees
that
work
for
us
and
have
been
loyal
over
years.
G
So
we
find
that
there
is
a
pool
of
them
that
would
like
to
stay
year
round,
but
again
they're
college
students
or
have
other
commitments,
and
so
that
would
create
an
opportunity
for
us
to
hire
some
part-timers
to
cover.
Specifically,
as
Council
Murphy
mentioned,
the
School
sites
that
don't
open
till
the
afternoon.
B
Got
it
yeah,
no
and
I
think
obviously,
if
there
were
a
way
in
negotiations
to
both
reward,
our
longtime,
loyal,
full-time
staff
and
also
open
up
that
opportunity,
I
mean
you
know
just
hearing
about
all
of
these.
The
idea
that
there's
and
I
know
I
know
and
Mr
McGuire.
You
made
this
point.
I
know
that
some
of
the
ones
that
are
currently
awaiting
Staffing.
B
It's
also
that
you
know
you've
only
recently
had
them
back
even
theoretically
online,
so
I
know
there's
like
a
process
to
getting
stuffed
up,
but
the
idea
that
we've
got
in
the
context
of
all
of
this
Capital
need
for
pools
that
we
could
have
open.
You
know
as
soon
as
we
have
the
staff
capacity
just
really
underscores
like
you
know
we
we
would
love
to
solve
that
problem.
At
least
given
all
this
can
I
just
do
a
quick
check.
B
Sorry,
the
Flaherty
pool
in
Roslindale
is
that
I
thought
Carrie
that
you
mentioned
a
Roslindale
project,
Community
Center
project
that
was
ongoing,
but
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
for
the
pool
or
just
the
community
center.
Okay,
so
so
the
so
the
Flaherty
pool
is,
is
open
and
is
not
in
that
list
of
anticipated,
immediate
projects.
I
Open-Ended
operational
they've
made
some
immediate
repairs
to
some
of
the
issues
there,
but
we
don't
at
this
point,
don't
foresee
it
being
shut
down.
Okay,.
I
I
I,
don't
believe
Curtis
Hall
is
100
like
that.
I
mean
there
are
certain
things
with
ventilation
that
we've
resolved.
It
would
the
one
that
we
that
I
mentioned
was
the
Mason
pool
and
that's
specific
to
the
liner
and
taking
a
look
at
some
of
the
immediate
repairs
related
to
resolving
that.
F
B
Awesome
and
then
I
know,
but
I
only
have
like
two
left
to
ask
for
that.
I
The
Quincy
pools
operational
again:
we've
immediate
Small,
Time
repairs.
I
G
Was
almost
like
a
disclaimer
I
was
going
to
make
because
we
have
I
mean
they're.
Very
you
know
complicated
mechanisms,
and
so
we
have
had
instances
where
the
motor
goes
out
or
again,
like
the
marbellas.
You
know
something
breaks
or
leaks,
and
this
happens
quite
frequently
where
we're
having
to
shut
down
a
facility
for
a
day
or
two
until
we
resolve
it
or
something
isn't
dehumidifying
or
somewhat.
The
other
very
delicate
balance.
B
Got
it
yes
and
yes,
I
understand
things
can
happen
to
pools
at
any
point,
and
obviously,
like
you
say,
until
we
get
you
guys
more
staff,
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
redundancy
in
your
in
your
human
capital
and
sorry,
and
just
because
I
realized
I
got
confused.
Are
there
19
pools,
total
or
21
pools,
total
18.,
nine,
okay.
G
B
And
what
about
and
what's
the
deal
with
the
curly
is
that
counted
in
that
number,
so
that
would
be
the
beach?
That's
that's.
That's
counted
as
the.
G
So
if
there's
we're
talking
about
aquatic
faces
faces
with
water,
whether
indoor
outdoor
or
a
beach
apologies,
there
are
19.
So
that's
what
the
I
got
it
again
with
the
Carly.
There
are
18
pools
of
those
18
to
our
outdoor
seasonal
pools
and
there
are
five
freestanding
bcyf
pool
facilities.
B
Yep
got
it
and
then
the
and
just
a
flag
that
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
it
doesn't
seem
like.
The
bcyf
Marshall
shows
up
on
your
guys's
online
list
of
all
the
Aquatic
facilities.
Even
though.
I
B
G
B
Just
a
note
make
sure
that
gets
added,
yeah
and
yeah
no
I
mean,
and
it's
you
know,
I
think
it
has
to
be
said
again
that
all
of
you
know
each
of
these
places
means
so
much
to
each
of
the
like
communities
around
them
that
you
know
it's
almost
overwhelming
to
talk
about
them
all
at
once,
just
because
they're
they're
so
important
to
so
many
bostonians.
B
B
So
just
but
just
flagging,
like
many
things
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
the
bcyf
type
public
facilities
that
we'd
love
to
see
in
the
district.
Obviously
we
love
the
bcyf
token,
but
it
doesn't
come
complete
with
a
pool
we
do
have
pickleball
there,
yes
and
and
an
excellent
basketball
court,
although
I
feel
like
I,
could
use
some
air
conditioning
in
the
summer,
but
anyways
that's
another
topic.
B
Okay,
I
think
that
that's
everything
yeah
I'll
follow
up
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
about
about
where
you
guys
are
on
all
this,
but
really
seriously
appreciate
all
of
your
guys's
work
across
all
the
teams
and
and
know
that
it's
it's
hard
work
and
that
again,
I
think
the
key
thing
is
is
like
you
know
you
can't
you
can't
magic
out
of
thin
air
Capital
project
that
is
going
to
take
18
months
or
it's
going
to
take
24
months
or
whatever,
like
it's
going
to
take
the
time
it's
going
to
take,
but
I
just
think
we
want
to
be
able
to
be
as
clear
and
transparent
with
bostonians
and
also
give
people
the
confidence
that
you
know
where
we
may
not
have
had
the
same
planning
lens
on
some
of
this.
B
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor,
Murphy
and
I'll
just
check
if
we
have
any
public
testimony.
Okay,
seeing
none
this
hearing
of
the
Boston
City
council's
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you.