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City Services & Innovation Technology Hearing - Docket #0241, supplemental sidewalk clearance program during snowstorm
A
All
right
calling
this
hearing
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Kenzie
Bach
I'm,
the
district
8
Boston,
City
councilor,
and
also
the
chair
of
the
Boston
City
councils
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology
I
joined
here
today
by
my
colleagues
I'm,
the
sponsor
of
this
matter,
my
co-sponsor
counselor
Brian,
Worrell,
District
Four
and
then
the
council
president
Ed
Salina
District
2..
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A
A
Two
four
one
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
a
supplemental
sidewalk
clearance
program
during
snowstorms
in
Boston
and
we'll
be
discussing
this
matter
with
Mike
broll,
the
superintendent
of
streets
for
the
public
works,
works
department
here
in
the
city
and
just
a
little
bit
of
context
on
this
for
folks
just
tuning
in
we
in
the
last
Council
session,
my
office
started
sort
of
drilling
down
on
this
matter.
A
I
represent
a
part
of
the
city
that
has
a
huge
number
of
pedestrians
just
every
day
out
on
the
sidewalks
and
and
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
have
limited
mobility
and
for
whom,
when
the
sidewalks
stay
unshoveled
for
long
periods
of
time,
and
especially
the
sort
of
like
ramps
and
crossings
are
blocked,
they
can
really
be
kind
of
hemmed
in
in
the
neighborhood
for
many
days,
and
so
you
know
really
obviously
want
to
ensure
Mobility
for
all
all
of
our
residents
in
the
city
and
so
kind
of
started.
A
Digging
into
this
and
thinking
about
what
other
cities
do
we
looked
last
session
at
both
the
city
of
Rochester
and
the
City
of
Syracuse
and
their
sort
of
pilot
clearance
programs
recognizing
that
recognizing
that,
obviously,
if
the
city
were
to
take
on
the
entire
burden
of
sidewall
clearance
from
private
property
owners,
that
would
be
an
enormous.
It
would
be
basically
again
the
scale
of
what
we
do
on
the
streets
so
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
best
path
forward
was
for
something
to
help
our
residents
and
I'll.
A
Let
the
superintendent
talk
more
about
it,
but
was
really
gratified
that
the
superintendent
was
able
to
put
some
resources
towards
a
kind
of
informal
pilot
test
program
last
winter.
So
I
want
to
use
this
hearing
both
to
check
in
on
this
and
also
talk
about
kind
of
where
we
go
from
here.
So
I'll
have
more
questions
in
the
question
period,
but
I
just
want
to
let
my
colleagues
make
any
opening
statement
on
the
matter
and
then
we'll
go
to
a
superintendent
parole.
So
what
I'll
do
you
have?
The.
B
Floor.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
superintendent
bro
for
all
what
you
do
in
our
in
our
city.
I
also
wanted
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
Clarence
Perkins
Willie,
Simon
and
all
those
other
people
are
hard
at
work
in
our
in
our
district,
making
sure
that
you
know
the
snow
is
not
also
Snow's
removed,
but
also
just
taking
care
of
our
streets
every
day
and
always
picking
up
the
phone
calls
and
ready
to
respond.
So
thank
you
to
your
team
and
always
being
very
responsive.
B
Like
Council
block
has
said
just
wanted
to
check
in
on
on
the
pilot
program,
seeing
how
we
can
expand
it,
possibly
on
some
more
of
those
high
traffic
areas.
You
know
whether
it's
our
train
stations,
you
know
Ashmont
Station
Shopping
station,
however,
even
like
some
of
our
high
density
traffic,
commercial
areas
like
common
square
Talbot,
Ave,
seeing
how
we
can
expand
the
program,
but
just
here
to
you,
know,
check
in
and
see
see
where
we
go
from
here
and
how
can
we
expand
the
program.
A
Great,
thank
you.
Council
Royal,
president
Flynn.
C
Thank
you,
madam
Sharon.
Thank
you,
Council,
we're
all
as
well,
and
thank
you,
superintendent
Brawl
for
the
important
leadership
and
work
you
and
your
team
are
doing
throughout
the
city
in
during
snowstorms.
Your
team
is
out
there.
C
You
know
sometimes
a
week
before
the
snowstorm
is
coming
preparing
for
that
snowstorm,
whether
it's
public
education
awareness
or
it's
making
sure
your
trucks
are
in
line
or
it's
trading,
the
roads
or
or
or
other
issues,
but
I
have
I
have
had
the
opportunity
to
see
your
team
work
prior
to
a
snowstorm,
and
you
know
we're
fortunate
to
have
such
strong
leaders
and
dedicated
city
employees.
So
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
Public
Works
team
for
for
their
leadership
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
to
my
colleagues
for
bringing
this
forward.
C
It's
an
important
issue.
Snow
removal
like
trash
removal,
Pest
Control.
These
are
the
nuts
and
bolts.
These
are
city
services.
That
government
is
all
about.
We
we
have
to
continue
to
work
together
with
residents
to
make
sure
we
address
all
quality
of
life
issues.
That's
what
we're
here
for
that's
what
residents
expect
from
the
city
council.
That's
what
residents
expect
from
the
mayor's
office
and
the
Departments
as
well,
so
what
I
found?
What
I
find
in
my
in
my
career,
I
guess
is
it's
important
to
work
together.
C
It's
important
to
work,
city,
city
leaders,
but
also
working
with
the
community
working
with
working
with
residents,
non-profits
organizations,
our
seniors
persons
with
disabilities,
but
also
making
sure
we're
working
with
our
immigrant
Community
as
well,
making
sure
that
they
know
exactly
what
to
do
and
how
we
communicate
with
them
is
also
important,
so
there's
other
there's
other
City
departments
that
are
crucial
to
this
process
as
well,
such
as
language
and
communication
access.
Having
said
that,
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
superintendent
bro,
for
the
important
work
your
team
is
doing.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you,
president
Flynn
I'm,
so
superintendent
I'll
hand
it
over
to
you
I
think
you
know
just
a
bit
about
what
we
did
last
year
and
and
what
you're
seeing
us
plan
for
this
year
and
then
I
know
that
I
know
that
in
the
ARP
of
funding
this
summer
we
approve
funding
for
a
kind
of
focused
like
business
districts,
main
streets
pilot,
and
my
impression
is
that
that's
not
slated
to
start
this
winter
that
it's
slated
to
start
a
winter
later.
A
D
Thank
you
very
much.
So
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
with
you
folks
and
kind
of
talk
about
what
our
team
does.
I
I
appreciate
the
kind
words
towards
the
folks
who
work
very
hard
to
keep
the
city
open
and
safe
during
some
brutal
winter,
some
some
brutal
weekends,
some
storms
that
stack
against
each
other
and
some
to
Council
of
Flynn's
point.
You
know
it
it
isn't.
D
You
know
when
the
when
the
weatherman
the
woman
says
it's,
you
know
the
snow
starts
at
five
and
ends
at
you
know
tomorrow
at
2
A.M,
that
those
aren't
really
the
hours
of
operation
they
can
be
long
hours
before
during
and
after
and
the
folks
you
mentioned,
Willie
Simon
and
Clarence
Perkins
in
District,
three
and
District
Seven
do
a
lot
of
work
to
manage
a
good
amount
of
equipment
around
the
city.
D
To
make
that
happen,
and
what
happened
last
winter
was
in
the
with
a
conversation
with
you,
Council
Bach,
that
you
know
kind
of
like
the
need
and
the
want,
and
how
do
we?
How
can
we
get
somewhere
was
the
idea
of
this
pilot
program.
We
rolled
out
upwards
of
60
small
pieces
of
equipment
post
snowstorm
that
would
be
Bobcats
skid,
steers
backhoes.
D
They
would
come
in
in
the
in
our
in
our
efforts
last
year
between
six
and
eight
hours
after
the
storm,
sometimes
a
little
bit
earlier,
if
they
don't,
depending
on
what
time
that
snowstorm
ends
we're
trying
to
get
some
folks,
some
rest
out
of
that
equipment.
The
60
plus
pieces
we
own
20
ourselves.
Those
are
those
are
what
we
call
tracklesses,
which
are
the
small
yellow.
They
look
almost
like
mini
tanks.
D
If
you
will
they've
got
the
blade
up
front
and
have
you
able
to
push
through
brake
brake
paths,
we've
got
some
small
what
we
call
Avant
so
just
those
are
smaller
they're
a
mix
between
a
backhoe
and
a
loader.
We've
got
those
in
our
inventory.
We've
got
also
some
small
Polarises
that
work
that
do
some
bike
lane
work
for
us
of
note,
for
those
would
be
the
summer
street
bike
lane
and
some
other
work.
It's
kind
of
specialty
work
around
the
city
with
that.
D
Is
that
contractor
piece
then
so
that
so
that
difference
is
what
we
got
last
winter
was
roughly
40
pieces
for
our
contractors
spread
across
the
city.
They
we
initially
rolled
them
out
kind
of
in
a
targeted
idea
of
where
their
High
pedestrian
flow,
where,
where
are
folks,
either
congregating
waiting
for
buses
getting
to
buses
business
districts
that
we
can
that
we
can
break
through
and
open
up
some
pet
ramps.
D
You
know
the
need
for
this
is
the
act
of
plowing
snow.
It
moves
it.
So
you
know
we
don't
it
it's
a
it's!
A
plowing
is
not
a
delicate
operation.
We
don't.
D
We
don't
clinically
place
it
redundantly
overnight
when
it's
falling
two
inches
an
hour
We're
just
trying
to
keep
roads
safe
for
chief
hooley,
commissioner
Cox
and
commissioner
Burke's
teams
to
kind
of
have
access
to
make
sure
that
their
apparatus
can
move
so
that
so
that
plowing
operation
can
move
snow
in
different
places
that
we
then
have
to
come
in
and
rectify,
move
clear,
open
some
spots.
Last
winter
we
saw
some
good
some
some
really
good
results.
With
this
I
I,
we
called
it
a
pilot
last
winter.
We're
done
calling
it
a
pilot.
D
We've
had
contractor
conversations
leading
up
into
this
winter
and
team
conversations.
It's
the
it's
just
a
part
of
our
operation.
Now
so
I.
You
know,
I
always
joke
that
Pilots
Last
for
a
while
in
the
city
we're
trying
to
get
rid
of
this
pilot
early
and
just
call
it
a
part
of
our
operation.
D
So
that's
what
we've
done
and
in
talking
to
the
contractors
and
our
team,
the
Clarence
Perkins
is
really
Simon.
Anthony
Thompson,
all
these
folks,
who
kind
of
you
know,
intimately
know
their
district
and
they
know
it
in
June
and
July.
So
they
know
what
that
ped
movement
is
it's
the
same
movement
in
the
winter.
So
they
know.
You
know
where
that
hot
spots
are
I
made
sure
to
make
a
note
about
Shaman,
T
Station.
When
you
mentioned
it,
that
was
not
one
that
was
on
our
list.
Last
winter
we
did
have
Peabody
Square.
D
We
did
have
Codman,
but
you
know
where
we
are
learning
which
this
is
well,
it's
not
a
pilot
anymore,
and
it's
it's
part
of
our
operation.
It's
everything's,
fluid
and
we'd
love
to
hear
different
spots.
That
are
that
are
not
in
Council
park.
I
think
we
spoke
about
South
Huntington
last
winter
and
a
couple
more
on
the
Fly
they're
going
to
happen
and
I
think
when
we
get
really
good
at
one
spot.
We
might
find
out
that
we're
not
good
at
another
spot
and
we've
got
to
clear
up
that
problem.
D
We're
now
flipping
that
to
same
thing,
getting
the
streets
as
wide
as
possible,
but
also
opening
up
some
pedestrian
walkways
and
some
just
kind
of
high
volume.
To
your
point.
Counselor
Buck
you've
got
a
lot
of
folks
downtown,
which
is
great,
but
there
are
also
business
districts,
West,
Broadway,
East,
Broadway
that
we
that
we,
you
know
Target
on
these
events,
that
we've
kind
of
we've
just
got
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
top
of
the
right
ones
at
the
right
time.
D
There
is
a
there
is
a
you
know:
the
council
Flynn's
point
people
work
very
hard
and
very
long
and
there's
a
you
know
sense
of
how
do
we
give
them
both
break
and
some
you
know
rest
period,
but
also
get
right
back
into
the.
You
know
timely
work
as
well.
So
we
are,
you
know
we
are
working
on
that
Cadence.
We
had
some
good
feedback
from
the
contractors
about.
You
know
how
that
could
look
for
them
our
own
folks.
How
does
that
look
for
them?
D
What
type
of
break
do
they
need
that
we
still
get
the
city
back
open
and
as
safe
as
possible
as
soon
as
possible?
The
contractors
did
come
back
to
us
this.
This
fall
with
you
know
a
good
handful
of
bought
smaller
pieces
of
equipment.
D
So
they've
seen
that
this
is
some
work
that
you
know
was
that
that
we're
looking
to
do
more
and
more,
we
had
one
contractor
I
had
30
skid
stamp
Bobcats
because
they
see
that
you
know
that
the
after
storm
need
that's
very
that's
very
promising,
so
that
number
that
I
had,
which
was
around
roughly
60
on
these
events
during
the
pilot
period,
Well
now
I
think
we'll
I
think
we'll
be
close
to
80
pieces
of
of
equipment
and
considering
we
were
looking
at
last
winter
before
it
started.
D
I
think
I
might
have
quoted
to
you.
Council
block
40
pieces.
We
got
to
60
getting
to
80.
Is
you
know
it's
all
Improvement?
It's
it's
not
every
sidewalk
in
the
city,
it's
not
every
ramp
in
the
city.
It's
it's!
It's
targeted
high
volume
areas
where
we're
just
trying
to
take
some
of
the
burden
stress
off
of
people's
strollers
wheelchairs.
D
You
know
kids
walking
to
school
buses.
It's
just
trying
to
take
just
take
some
of
that
relief
off
of
there.
But
again
to
my
you
know
to
my
point.
D
This
is
this
is
part
of
our
operation.
Council,
you
mentioned
the
harpa
funding,
so
the
streets
cabinet
is
is,
is
taking
that
forward.
It's
the
goal
for
the
winter
of
23
into
24,
starting
which
would
be
a
year
from
now
to
have
targeted
locations
I
think
they
don't
try
to
work
through
business
districts
and
mainstream
organizations
to
kind
of
see
where.
Where
is
that?
Where
can
that?
You
know
breadth
of
money
and
resources
go
to
in
talking
to
Chief
Hodge?
D
We're
kind
of
we're
figuring
out,
you
know,
oversight
and
inspection,
and
you
know
all
those
things
that
go
into
it,
but
it
is,
it
is
on
the
agenda.
It
will
I
I
see
this
coming
for
through
these
Main
Street
organizations
and
through
system
conversations,
and
maybe
looking
at
some
data
as
well
to
see
you
know
truly
where
other
people,
because
I
tell
you
we
know
whether
people
have
it
doesn't
mean.
We
always
know
whether
people
are
right
like
and
we're
the
trouble
spots.
D
So
I
think
that
I
think
going
into
next
winter
that
shouldn't
be
an
issue.
They'll
they'll
be
they'll,
be
a
point
person
there'll
be
folks
kind
of
overseeing
and
kind
of,
hopefully
we'll
have
a
nice
a
map
of
where
we
should
be
and
how
we
should
be
there.
So
that's
that's
all
moving
forward,
but
I
will
tell
you
in
real
time
this
winter
we're
prepared
to
do
what
we
did.
Last
winter,
a
bit
more
I
quickly
took
down
the
note
of
Shaman,
we'll
we'll
continue
to
take
down,
notes
and
I
I.
D
Think
Council
block
can
attest.
You
know
text
or
a
call,
always
works
in
an
email
to
kind
of
you
know,
joystick
us
a
bit
we'll
be
as
Nimble
as
possible.
A
Yeah,
no
I
I
very
much
appreciate,
I,
think
glass
winter.
In
particular,
we
had
that
that
the
inner,
the
West
friends
neighborhood,
we
actually
had
a
lot
of
people
walking
around
on
Peterborough,
Street
and
stuff
and
I
I.
Think
you
guys
helped
us
out
there
a
couple
questions
for
me
and
then
I'll
go
to
my
colleagues.
I
mean
one.
It's
just
great
to
hear.
You
know
yeah,
let's
not
talk
about
it
as
a
pilot
anymore.
So
that's
that's.
Awesome.
A
I
know
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
we
did
talk
about
last
winter
and
this
relates
to
the
Personnel
is
like
and
I
just
also
want
to
sort
of
help.
People
who
are
watching
at
home
understand
right
that
it's
more
or
less
the
same
folks
who
operate
the
plows
as
operate
the
Bobcats
right.
A
A
A
Is
there
a
way
for
us
to
set
expectations
and
we'd
have
to
do
it
storm
by
storm,
but
kind
of
like
you
know,
to
help
communicate
to
folks,
because
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
issues
that
we
were
dealing
with
is
we
had
you
guys
were
so
fast
on
the
draw
with
the
small
equipment
after
the
first
storm,
which
was
one
of
the
shorter
ones,
and
everyone
was
like
great.
This
is
awesome,
like
the
ramps
are
clear.
A
D
That
sure
so
January
9th
was
when
we
were
quick,
because
the
storm
was
quicker
and
smaller
January
28th
29th
into
the
30th
was
a
blizzard.
So
to
your
point
it
is
the
same
folks.
It's
it's
kind
of
make
sure
that
everyone's
safe
and
healthy
and
getting
the
rest
that
they
need.
Whereas
with
then
we
can
go
back
to
working
hard
again
for
700
000
residents
and
millions
or
so
people
come
into
the
city.
So
it
is
easier
to
do
it
that
way.
I
mean
you
know.
D
You
know
I,
wouldn't
ask
for
a
big
thump
of
snow,
because
then
that's
a
problem.
You
know
in
actual
real
time
of
clearing
roads,
but
no
it's!
The
Cadence
is
always
set
forth
by
Mother
Nature
and
fortunately
like
it's
in
in
all
avenues
in
all
aspects
of
this,
like
I'm,
just
reporting
on
what
we
do
and
on
how
we
respond
to
Mother
Nature,
to
kind
of
be
clear
that
you
know,
there's
no
there's
no
square
peg
square
hole.
D
There's
no,
but
I
do
think
that
if
we
could,
we
can
understand
what
it
is,
though
it's
only
we
didn't
understand
what
the
last
six
hours
or
eight
hours
or
34
hours
were
so
we
could
communicate
a
you
know,
I
think
a
bit
more
I'll
say
realistically,
you
know,
and
we
tend
to
do
it
with
our
own
social
media
feeds,
because
that's
just
kind
of
how
we
operate
but
we'd
love
to
have
that
you
know
to
be
able
to
kind
of
share
information,
and
then
we
can
get
out
to
different
Networks.
A
Yeah,
no
I
just
think
it
might
be
now
that
it's
more
part
of
our
operation,
I
feel
like
last
year
we
were
almost
trying
to
like
pleasantly
surprise
everyone
with
the
Bobcats
and
so
like,
especially
that
first
storm,
like
they
kind
of
appeared
right
and
then
everyone
was
like.
Oh,
this
is
awesome,
but
then
I
think
yeah
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about.
How
can
we
because
also
I
think
with
our
offices
if
people
reach
out
to
my
office
and
say
hey
like
it's
all
impassable.
D
A
D
Know
you
say
pleasantly
surprised,
which
is
probably
you
know.
I
would
say
you
know
we
just
don't
want
to
set
expectation
levels
that
we
can't
meet
and
in
that
first
year
and
the
only
pilot
year
we
had,
we
did
want
to
learn
from
what
did
today
feel
like
what
does
tomorrow.
Look
like
what
are
the
past
two
days
feel
like
what
does
tomorrow,
look
like
so,
but
yeah,
no
I,
agree.
I
I
can
appreciate
that.
A
D
A
Right
yeah,
it
would
be
great
I'd
love
to
talk
through
the
district,
eight
ones,
but
maybe
we
can
do
that.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
to
counselor
Royal
and
then
we've
been
joined
by
councilor
Ruthie
Louis
Jen
at
large.
So
we'll
go
to
her
for
questions
as
well.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thanks
again,
and
my
question
is
just
simple
question:
is
how
can
we
as
counselors
you
know,
I
know
this
is
going
into
the
second
year
of
the
services
and
I
know.
You
know
to
counselor
box
point
that
you
know
we
created.
You
know
this
service
that
more
people
are
going
to
be
asking
for.
But
how
can
we,
as
counselors,
be
more
supportive
of
of
of
this
program
and
of
these
services
so.
D
I
greatly
appreciate
that
question.
Any
support
we
can
take
in
snow
will
take
I,
think
pre-storm
pre-winter
communicating
I
mean,
like
you
know,
give
us
heads
up
on
places
that
you
think
that
you
know
could
use
this
type
of
relief
and
could
use
this
type
of
work
because
of
The
Pedestrian
floor
because
of
issues
you've
heard
about
redundantly.
D
That's
one
step
two
would
be
helping
communicate
with
with
your
networks
and
your
residents
to
kind
of.
Let
them
know
that
you
know
they're
coming
or
okay.
You
know,
there's
a
pause
or
or
just
kind
of
setting
forth
an
emotion
that
we're
not
doing
every
sidewalk
either.
That
expectation
level
is
important
to
us.
D
The
men
and
women
work
very
hard
and
to
see
that
we
didn't
do
sidewalks
well
with
something
we
don't
do
can
be
a
little
tough
on
the
morale
a
little
bit,
tough
on
the
expectation
levels
for
folks
who
are
charged
with
until
last
winter,
truly
doing
roadways,
doing
850
miles
of
lanes,
and
so
it's
it's.
It's
just
kind
of
setting
for
what
the
right
expectation
levels
that
you
know
and
then
passing
along.
D
You
know
just
because
you
I
I
think
there's
a
spot
right
now
that
needs
it
doesn't
mean
it'll,
need
it
or
doesn't
mean
that
there's
not
too
down
the
street
that
needed
more
and
kind
of
helping
us
put
our
resources
where
they
belong.
That'd,
be
very
that's.
It's.
It
kind
of
goes
back
to
a
litter
basket.
You
know
if
it's,
if
you
know
where
little
baskets
you
go
and
you
want
to
suggest
it,
we
talk
through
it
and
we
kind
of
move
the
resources
that
way.
A
I'm
actually
gonna
great.
Are
you
done
yes,
okay,
I'm
gonna
go
now
to
president
Flynn
and
then
to
counselor
Legion
one
sec.
D
So
every
storm
is
a
little
different.
Some
summer,
big
summer,
small
samurai
storms,
some
are
some
are
squalls
that
come
off
the
ocean,
but
but
but
for
a
large-scale
storm.
We
are
talking
about
our
equipment
a
week
at
a
time
where
you
know
never
mind.
Are
we
not
doing
that
in
August
and
September,
but
as
we
get
more
micro
into
the
moment,
we're
talking
about
equipment?
D
Is
it
a
pliable
event
if
it's
a
plowable
event,
we're
fixing
plows
back
onto
trucks,
we
might
have
removed
those
plows
because
they
were
doing
litter,
basket,
work
and
picking
up
dead
animals
throughout
the
week,
but
they're
not,
but
so
so
we'd,
rather
not
have
them
driving
around
with
the
blades
on
so
so
that's
part
of
it
making
sure
that
the
salt
spreaders
are
working.
Make
sure
that
every
that
that
everything
that
might
have
went
down
last
storm.
D
That's
another
thing
is
that
in
snow
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
physical
act
with
the
roadway
and
you
know
and
you're
scraping
and
you're
pushing-
and
you
know
you
can
have
you
know
countless
breakdown
issues,
whether
it
be
a
hydraulic
leak
or
a
blade
issue
or
a
spread
of
malfunction.
So
we're
making
sure
that
that
equipment
that
was
brought
down
to
Central
fleet
has
been
has
been
returned
if
it
hasn't
been
returned.
D
What's
the
ETA
returning,
if
it's
not
going
to
return
okay,
now
we
have
to
make
up
that
number,
maybe
with
a
contracted
because
we're
down
a
piece
or
two,
and
so
so
that's
kind
of
like
you
know
that
equipment
piece
that
we
talked
about.
We
start
talking
personnel
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
shifting
set
up
that
allows
for
maximum
time
off
for
folks
in
between
these
long.
D
These
long-term
events,
so
we
so
we'd
like
to
get
into
a
split
shift
mode
and
thinking
about
that
at
least
three
or
four
days
ahead
of
time.
So
we
can
implement
it
and
we
can
let
employees
know
so
they
can.
Let
family
members
know
that
they
can
let
you
know
so
they
can
kind
of
set
up
their
life,
we're
about
to
ask
them
to
do
a
lot
of
work
over
over
a
period
of
time.
We
want
to
try
to.
D
Let
them
make
sure
that
they're
letting
folks
know
that
you
know,
maybe
they
won't
be
there
to
pick
up
the
child
from
school.
Maybe
they
can't
do
that
function
at
the
house
that
they
did
before
so
that
so
that
Staffing
conversation
goes
back
and
forth.
As
you
know,
Norman
Parks
and
Danny,
who
are
integral
key
members
of
the
Citywide
snow
operation,
guys
that
you
know
who
who
really
keep
this
city
open.
We
start
these
conversations
to
your
point
days
ahead
of
time.
Then
we
start
getting
into
okay.
Now
they
now
that
event's
active.
D
Now
it's
live,
and
you
know
we
we
like
to
do
it.
You
know
up,
depending
on
the
type
of
snowfall,
a
pre-treat,
so
we
can
get
just
a
salt
surface
down
to
kind
of
help,
break
away
it
grinds
up.
The
water
allows
us
to
get
back
to
Pavements
sooner
and
keep
streets
safe
for
a
little
bit
longer.
D
Hills
and
bridges
are
always
what
we
talk
about:
first
Hills,
because
Hills
to
Hills
to
Hills
and
bridges
tend
to
freeze
up
sooner
because
of
the
fact
that
there's
really
no
terraform
underneath
it
it's
a
it's
a
hover.
It's
a
hovering
piece
of
concrete
that
gets
colder,
so
we're
very
lucky
in
our
Fleet.
We've
got
about
60
trucks
with
Aaron
Road
sensors
in
them.
So
that
means
it's
got
the
air
temp,
but
also
the
road
temp.
So
we
can
kind
of
watch
the
temperature
move.
D
We
can
watch
it
Cambridge
Street
bridge
out
in
Brighton's,
one
that
we
check.
Fairmont
Hill
is
one
that
we
check
Pope's
hill.
We
check
Wellington
Hills,
there's
like
there's
like
key
points
of
the
city
where
we
just
kind
of
want
to
see
the
temperature
go
down
and
know
when
we
have
to
push
a
button.
So
that's
so
that's
part
of
that
pre-storm
Into
the
Storm
activity.
D
We
then,
as
you
know,
as
and
now
you're
in
the
event
now
you're
plowing,
now
you're
salting
we're
trying
to
keep
open
every
lane.
We
can
possibly
keep
open,
making
sure
bus
routes
are
safe,
making
sure
that
you
know
Hospital
corridors.
You
know
folks
can
folks
can
move
an
ambulance
in
and
out
of
the
city,
and,
to
my
point
early
about
the
you
know,
the
public
safety
teams,
we
know
I
mean
we're
in
constant
Communication
in
case
they
have,
if,
if
they
have
a
problem,
it's
our
problem.
D
So
we
have
to
you
know
if
it's
a
hill
problem,
if
it's,
if
it's
a
pinch,
Point
problem
we're
in
we're
in
communication
there
as
well,
where
we've
also
been
sending
resources
to
some
bike
Lanes
as
well
to
kind
of
keep
that
Network
as
open
as
possible.
D
I
should
say,
as
it
relates
to
this
post-storm
action,
that
we
that
that
we
took
last
year
and
we're
going
full
time
with
this
year,
that
we
do
also
at
the
same
time,
send
those
60
pieces
through
the
bike
Lanes
again
to
make
sure
the
bike
lanes
are
are
once
again
open
if
they
didn't
remain
open
or
if
they
were
plowed
in
by
way
of
just
people
doing
other
work.
So
we're
also
doing
that
as
well.
So
it's
a
it's
to
your
point.
Council!
C
Yeah
and
I
just
have
one
one
final
question.
Thank
you.
Superintendent
and
I
know.
You
highlighted,
highlighted
the
Hawks
and
and
Danny
knee
as
well
for
outstanding
work,
which
I
agree.
The
the
snow
removal
team
is
doing
an
excellent
job.
C
D
D
That's
that's
someone
who's
herself
and
our
team
will
ping
US
Post
storm
kind
of
give
us
some
heads
up
on
some
pinch
points
everybody
Atlantic
Ave
of
note
last
year
and
a
few
others
just
at
the
top
of
my
head,
but
so
so
we're
trying
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
these
major
ped
ramps
and
these
in
these
heavily
trafficked,
I'm
sorry
traffic,
pedestrian,
baby
carriages
wheelchairs.
You
know,
folks
with
disability
that
that
we're
getting
to
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
get
to
yeah.
C
Thank
thank
you,
superintendent,
and
just
just
for
the
record
for
my
colleagues,
commissioner
McCosh
does
an
outstanding
job
working
as
the
mayor's
commissioner
for
persons
with
disabilities,
but
they
have
a
great
way
of
interacting
with
so
many
residents
across
the
city,
but
their
job
really
is
to
advocate
for
persons
with
disabilities,
but
one
of
the
most
important
things
they
do
is
communicate
with
us,
also
making
sure
making
sure
we
help
them
working
closely
with
public
works
and
ensuring
that
our
streets
and
sidewalks
are
accessible
to
persons
with
disabilities,
people
in
wheelchairs
or
or
families
with
little
kids
and
baby
carriages
too
seniors.
C
So
thank
you,
superintendent
for
highlighting
the
important
role
commissioner
McCosh
plays
as
it
relates
to
Quality
life
issues
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
to
the
sponsors,
and
this
has
been
an
excellent
hearing.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
I
wanted
to
know
if
you
sort
of
have
looked
at
the
models
and
apologize
that
this
question
was
asked
before
in
other
cities
in
terms
of
sidewalk
clearance
like
Rochester
and
I,
believe
Syracuse,
and
what
are
the
best
practices
that
we've
learned
from
from
their
side.
Sidewalk
clearing
program
so.
D
We
we
have
looked
at
Syracuse
as
they
they
paused
it
for
covet
after
one
year,
they've
picked
it
back
up
last
winter
and
they
actually
picked
it
back
up
with
a
good
stretch
of
sidewalks,
they've
I,
don't
know
the
results,
so
I
I
should
say.
I've
looked
into
it
to
know
that
they've
that
they're,
that
their
plan
was
to
do
100
miles
of
sidewalks
post
snowstorms
into
and
to
deploy
resources
as
such
through.
What,
through
an
idea
based
around
metrics
and
data,
who
was
what?
Where
were
they?
D
How
were
they
foot
modal
bike
and
so
I'll
be
interested
to
see
what
they,
what
that
looks
like
last
winter
was
their
first
winter
to
do
it.
Saint
Paul
Minnesota,
deploys
small
pieces
of
equipment,
post,
snowstorm
and
they,
and
and
and
how
they
operate.
Is
they
just
start
doing
sidewalks
until
it
snows
again,
so
it's
more
along
the
lines
of
you
know
how
far
they
can
get
and
what
they
can
do.
D
Intro
to
see
how
kind
of
how
that
how
that
plays
out,
as
far
as
the
end
result,
not
fully
knowing
what
St
Paul
Minnesota
snow
is
like
and
how
quickly
it
can
come
again.
I
know
that
you
know
I
would
say
it's
it's
it's
a
it's
a
model
that
gets
wet.
It
sounds.
It
feels
to
me
like
it's
a
model
that
gets
what
they
can
get
where
Syracuse
seems
to
be
dedicated.
D
100
mile
Network,
the
I
should
say
as
well,
just
to
kind
of
speaking
to
the
Saint
Paul
piece,
while
I've
highlighted
that
we
do
this
post
snowstorm
clearance
of
squares,
we
run
our
internal
pieces,
so
we've
got
I've
known
it
earlier.
We
have
21
of
our
own
small
pieces
of
equipment
that
do
bike
lanes
and
and
can
and
can
break
some
of
these
piles.
They
work
just
kind
of
like
Saint
Paul
does
they'll
just
work
and
they'll
work.
D
D
It
doesn't
end
when
the
contractors
leave
our
city
folks
continue
on
and
our
second
and
third
shifts
will
will
won't
run
the
same
scale
because
he's
on
the
same
bodies
on
at
the
on
those
second
and
third
shifts,
and
we
also
don't
want
to
be
a
problem
and
enabled
where
people
finally
going
to
sleep
after
shoveling
themselves,
and
we
don't
want
to
run
logical
equipment
through
small
areas.
But
but
but
we
are
doing
that
same
Paul
approach,
but
we're
just
trying
to
get
as
wide
and
as
and
as
open
as
we
can
get.
D
E
I
guess
you
know,
obviously
the
the
city's
biggest
priority
when
it
comes
to
snowstorms
is
a
cleaning
of
our
streets
and
making
sure
that
they're,
accessible,
I,
think
councilor
council
president
Flynn
talked
about
making
sure
that
they're
accessible,
especially
to
folks
with
disabilities,
folks
in
little
chairs,
but
there's
also
the
issue
of
of
rams
and
so
I
wonder
what
you
see
as
the
biggest
you
know.
We
already
see
the
challenge
that
exists
with
making
sure
after
we
had
the
big
snowstorm
last
year.
Our
streets
are
cleaned
when
it
comes
to
sidewalks.
D
D
Do
that
yeah
I
think
it's
it's
scope,
it's
just
it's
it's
1600
miles
of
sidewalks.
We
have
850
miles
of
roadway,
we've
run
I!
Think
it's
like
1200
Lane
Miles.
When
you
start
talking
about
like
the
Melania
castes,
and
you
know,
Hyde
Park
cabs
with
multiple
Lanes
but
I.
Think
it's
1600
miles
is,
is
that's
a
that's
a
that's
a
heavy
number.
You
know
when
I
tell
you
that
Syracuse
is
looking
to
tackle
100
miles.
That's
impressive,
that
that
impresses
me.
But
it's
you
know
it's.
You
know
1600
miles.
D
We
have
in
the
city
as
far
as
the
full
ownership
of
sidewalks,
which
is
you
know
why
the
city
has
never
tackled
it
internally.
I
think
you
know,
I,
think
that
you
know
things
like
we
did
last
winter
kind
of
can
show
us
how
far
we
can
get
and
how
much
we
can
do.
I
think
we
can
do
more
of
the
square
work
this
winter
than
we
did
last
winter.
Just
because
we've
learned
from
and
we've
got
contractors
and
we're
buying.
D
You
know
our
own
equipment
to
kind
of
adds
that
volume
and
as
that
adds
that
resource.
But
you
know
you
look
at
the
nooks
and
crannies
of
the
city
and
it's
certainly
not
the
nooks
and
cranes.
It's
just
side
streets
where
City
made
up
of
side
streets
with
you
know
last
night,
Halloween
kind
of
highlights.
D
It
is
that
you
know
we
just
you
know
we're
a
city
of
neighborhoods
in
city
of
you
know,
dead
ends,
and
you
know
one
ways
and
you
know
just
a
lot
of
small
streets
that
when
you
start
getting
to
1600
miles,
I
think
that's
that
number.
That's
that!
That's
that!
That's
that's!
That
makes
you
think
you.
E
Know
and
I
guess
a
follow-up
question:
is
we
often
in
as
a
new
city
counselor
one
of
the
questions
that
I
got
a
lot
from
constituents
was
Private
ways.
So
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
snow
removal
looks
like
on
our
private
ways
and
the
challenges
that
that
you
experience
there,
because
it
is
an
issue,
especially
residents
who
you
know
Buy
on
private
ways,
but
may
not
fully
be
aware
of
the
responsibilities
that
that
might
entail.
E
So
if
you
speak
to
the
challenges
of
of
clean
of
snow
removal
on
private
ways
and
on
the
sidewalks
of
private.
E
D
Yep,
so
so
so
we
talk
in
snow
maps
and
in
the
winter
we
got
them.
You
know
our
major
materials,
but
you
know
and
that's
the
and
that's
those
bus
routes,
but
our
district
yards.
They
talk
on
snow
maps
and,
if
there's
a
private
way
inside
of
a
snow
map,
you
know
where
there's
a
there's
a
piece
in
there
or
a
couple
pieces
in
there.
That
is
that
is
hitting
that
redundantly.
The
problem
with
snow
is
that
if
you
don't
get
it
redundantly,
you
have
to
dig
it
out.
D
So
if
you
miss
a
street,
that's
got
16
inches
of
snow.
It's
a
total
different
ball
game.
It's
it's!
It's
it's!
Just
it's
just
far
more
work,
so
is
it?
Is
it
getting
the
same
amount
of
attention
as
a
as
a
Neponset
Ave
through
through
us
on
snow
map?
Gets
it
may
not
get
the
same
size
equipment,
but
it
still
has
a
smaller
equipment
assigned
to
it.
It
is
some
of
the
problems
there
can
be.
You
know
we
don't
own
the
we
don't
own
the
enforcement
of
parking
on
a
private
way.
D
So
if
there's
a
car,
that's
parked
out
of
compliance.
That's
pinched
into
the
corner
or
fire
off
the
curb,
and
it's
not
allowing
that
plow
to
get
to
the
end
of
the
private
way.
It's
tougher
because
you
know
we
don't
have
that
mechanism,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
private
way.
It
isn't
a
city
parking
space,
so
that
can
be
a
little
bit
of
a
of
an
issue.
D
The
the
Back
Bay
alleys
is
a
pretty
good
example
of
that
like
if
we,
if
we've
got
an
issue
getting
around
a
car
in
a
private
alley,
we
try
to
use
a
network
of
folks
that
we
just
know
in
the
South
End
forum
and
the
like
to
kind
of
help,
us
kind
of
communicate
and
move
that
you
know
you
have
the
yellow
lights
on
your
truck,
and
you
hear
it
folks
tend
to
come
out
because
they
hey
they're,
happy,
maybe
or
bad,
but
they
want
to
move
their
car
to
make
sure
that
there's
full
access
so
that
helps
out
the
private
way
work
is
is,
is
something
that
we
that
happens
with
us
to
every
snowstorm.
D
It's
part
of
a
map,
the
sidewalk
working
there
I
couldn't
speak
to
I
this.
There
are
some
sidewalks
in
private
ways:
some
Broadways
have
no
sidewalks,
it's
kind
of
I,
wouldn't
say
hodgepodge
whatever
it's
a
hodgepodge.
It's
a
hodgepodge.
Okay,
I'll
agree
with
you
Sam
it's
so
so.
I
can't
speak
to
that
piece,
but
we
don't.
D
We
don't
enforce
the
sidewalks
in
a
private
way
like
we
would
code
enforcement
on
public
Street
currently,
but
we
are
doing
we
are
putting
small
scale
pieces
of
equipment
inside
of
these
Maps
inside
of
snow
storms.
We're
thinking
it
through.
So
when
I
say
255
Maps
part
of
that
plan
going
into
that
snowstorm
is
okay.
You
need
a
small
piece
for
this
and
this
because
you
know
you've
got
this
small
dead.
End.
D
E
You
and
customer
realized
a
really
great
question
about
what
what
city
councils
can
do:
I'm
wondering
for
residents
listening
and
who
are
sometimes
frustrated
with
the
fact
that
maybe
they're
clearing
their
sidewalk,
but
maybe
there's
a
neighbor
who
isn't
or
an
absentee
landlord,
or
perhaps
it
is
someone
who's
elderly
who
can't-
and
you
know
they
don't
have
the
capacity
to
clear
sidewalk.
What
is
what
what
is
the
action?
What
is
the
most
important
action
that
individual
residents
can
take
when
it
comes
to
helping
us?
E
D
Three
one
one:
three
one
yeah
I'm,
sorry
yeah,
either
either
use
the
app
use.
The
phone
number
use
the
use,
the
computer
create
a
case.
You
know
make
sure
you
give
the
right,
X
and
y's
to
meaning
give
the
right
address.
Sometimes
it's
you
know
we
can
get
you
it's
you
know
address
is
very
important.
We
we
deploy
code
enforcement
post
snowstorms
based
around
not
just
case
volume,
but
you
know
we
become
Pavlov's
dog,
we
become
the
bell
rings
and
we're
going
to
it.
D
Eventually
we
go
downtown
heavy
Centric,
early
business
districts
and
large-scale
management
companies.
That
kind
of
have
to
that.
That
see
a
lot
of
these
people
that
we
talk
about
on
their
sidewalks,
but
then
we
deploy
out
from
the
out
from
there
into
the
neighborhood,
so
I
think
you
know
always
advising
residents
to
use
the
system
to
you
know
to
create
a
311
case.
You
know,
there's
a
there's
a
there's,
a
tracking
number.
With
that
you
can
see
result
you
can
see
resolved
by
way
of
cited,
not
cited
or
you
know.
D
Maybe
you
know
by
the
time
we
got
there.
Someone
did
do
the
right
thing
and
did
clear
it
up,
but
post
snowstorm,
we,
we
deploy
the
18-ish
officers
all
on
sidewalk
work.
E
Okay
and
then
I
guess
my
last
question
is
and
you're
talking
and
speaking
to
the
challenges
and
sort
of
a
successful
sidewalk
clearance
program.
If
you
could
talk
about
Public,
Works
capacity
staff
capacity
like
where
are
you
what
level?
Where
do
you
want
to
be
and
how
the
city
council
can
we
be
helpful.
D
Yeah
I
can
talk
in
volume
and
kind
of
back
into
the
percentages.
We
are
down
30,
CDL,
Drivers
way
down
15
to
16
hoisting
license
those
are
folks
who
who,
who
run
out
of
loaders,
who
either
you
know,
give
assault
into
our
trucks
or
run
the
smaller
back
equipment
that
I
talked
about.
We
are
have
we've
had
some
success.
In
the
past
two
weeks,
we've
been
going
to
a
lot
of
job
fairs
and
putting
that
tent
up
in
our
shingle
up
at
different
places.
D
To
kind
of
you
know,
spread
the
word
and
we've
actually
onboarded
or
in
the
process
of
onboarding
for
those
CDL
Drivers
right
now,
which
has
been
you
know,
a
plus,
fully
staffed
to
Highway,
Division
and
Public
Works
has
around
170
580
employees.
D
You
know
it's
that
at
full
staff.
It's
not
it's
not
a
lot
a
lot
in
1988
a
gentleman
who
who
rants
no
Joe
Cannon,
who
was
one
of
the
best
of
all
times
he
had
405
employees,
Justin
Highway,
and
that
was
1988,
and
there
was
no
city
of
Boston
city
of
Boston
Highway
division.
There
was
no.
There
was
no
311
system,
there
was
no
social
media.
There
was,
you
know
if
someone
answered
a
phone
at
a
desk,
it
might
pass
along
that
information,
someone
else
with
a
desk
and
they
would
deploy
resources.
D
But
my
point
is:
is
that
we're
we're
not
you
know
and
I
think
maybe
400
is
too
high,
but
you
know,
as
we
get
more
scope
of
work
now.
What
we
haven't
really
talked
about
is
bike
Lanes,
but
we've
assumed
bike
lanes
and
we're
assuming
more
bike
lanes,
and
you
know
we
have
to
keep
those
bike
lanes
open
and
accessible.
D
So
you
know
that's
a
that's
a
that's
a
use
of
resources
as
well.
That
comes
out
of
that.
Out
of
that,
you
know
180
employees,
which
right
now
we're
probably
at
135
130ish
that
that
we
just
have
to
figure
out.
How
do
you
use
these
resources?
So
Staffing
is
a
problem.
It's
this
problem
across
the
industry.
It's
a
problem
across
all
municipalities
for
a
lot
of
the
key
work
in
our
world.
D
It's
licensed
drivers
and
other
work,
and
you
know
with
city
government
it's
it
can
be
school
teachers
or
lunchroom
monitors
or
or
you
know
you
know
if
it's
just
a
wide
breadth
of
you
know,
I
think
it's
been
well
chronicled
the
issues
going
on
with
Staffing
and
labor,
but
in
our
in
our
little
world
it's
licensed
drivers.
We
have
been
more
aggressive
with
our
pay
scale.
We
have
been,
you
know
paying.
D
You
know,
we
talk
in
steps
and
grades
and
you
know
starting
people
at
a
different
step.
To
kind
of
you
know
make
sure
we
get
them
in
here.
Counselor
has
been
I'm.
Sorry
Mayo
has
been
like
truly
wonderful
with
you
know
the
putting
us
anywhere
in
front
of
anybody
and
kind
of
you
know
giving
us
all
the
tools
that
we
can
get
on
the
Fly.
We
are
going
to
talk,
learn
long
term,
but
how
do
we
pay?
You
know?
How
do
we
pay
folks?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
incentivize
folks?
D
How
do
we
keep
folks
in
in
our
place?
What
used
to
be
you
know,
I
want
to
work
for
the
city
and
you
know
I.
You
know
the
things
that
drove
them
might
just
not
be
working
as
well
anymore,
so
we
are
looking
at
at
all
avenues.
There
we're
working
with
OBM,
the
people's
cabinet
and
others
the
kind
of
how
do
we?
How
do
we
change
what
we're
doing
if
it's
not
working,
yeah.
E
Thank
you,
superintendent.
You
actually
anticipated
my
final
final
last
question,
which
is
what
are
we
doing
to
ensure
that
these
salaries
are
competitive
with
the
private
Market?
My
understanding
is
that
sometimes
folks
come
in
there's
some
folks
who,
even
you
know,
we
are
I,
think
we're
doing
some
of
the
work
of
helping
folks
actually
acquire
that
licensure
and
that
we're
not
able
to
retain
them
because
we're
not
able
to
offer
competitive
salaries
with
the
private
market
and
so
and
part
of
me
asking.
E
If
we
want
our
city
to
work,
if
we
want
Public
Works
to
work,
if
we
want
our
sidewalks
or
in
our
streets,
if
we
want
our
streets
cleared
and
if
we
want
to
do
this
expansion
work
to
our
sidewalks,
we
have
to
have
staff
better
in-house
and
we
have
to
be
paying
them
competitive
salaries,
not
only
to
affirm
the
dignity
in
their
work,
but
to
also
ensure
that
we
don't
lose
them
as
soon
as
they
come
into
Like
A,
Private,
Industry,
that's
able
to
pay
double
or
something
that's
more
competitive.
D
So
to
your
point
about
how
we
try
to
you
know
we,
you
know
we
hire
somebody,
we
on
board
them.
We
we
put
them
in
our
ladder.
We
may
even
you
know
if
folks
want
it
and
they
raise
their
hand,
we
actually
try
to
recruit
as
well.
We
put
you
in
our
CDL
program
and
we
and
we
and
we
get
you
licenses
and
we
do
our
best.
D
To
kind
of
you
know
help
you
help
us
and
help
everybody,
and
then
you
know
when
they
when
folks
achieve
these
licenses,
if
we're
not
paying
appropriately,
you
know
it's,
you
know.
You
know
folks
folks,
move
on.
You
know,
then
it's
it's
about
salary.
You
know.
If
you
pay
enough
residency,
doesn't
matter,
you
know
and
I
and
I
think
that
you
know
there's
a
certain
extent
that
you
know
folks.
You
know
on
men
and
women
who
live
here
and
work
here.
You
know
they've,
they
said.
D
There's
a
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
good
Pride.
It's
just.
We
have
to
do
the
right
thing
by
paying
them.
You
know
what
this
Market
has
changed
to
so
I
think
there
probably
will
be
an
ass.
That
comes
through
here
at
some
point
in
time.
It
won't
be
classically
from
me,
but
it
it.
We
have
to
look
at
how
we're
paying
the
men
and
women
who
work
awfully
hard
to
keep
the
city
moving
12
months
a
year,
never
mind.
You
know
four
months
of
critical,
Public
Safety,
so
I
I
appreciate
that.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
superintendent
and
thank
you
chair
back
for
indulging
my
questions.
No.
F
You
thank
you
for
holding
this
important
hearing
and
thank
you,
superintendent,
bro
good,
to
see
you
I
know.
A
lot
of
things
have
already
been
said,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
council
president
Flynn
for
lifting
up
the
disability
question.
I
know
we
get
that
a
lot
where
I
live
on
the
corner,
where
there
is
a
school
bus,
stop
in
front
of
my
house
an
MBTA
bus,
stop
on
the
side
of
my
house,
I
have
a
hydrant
and
a
handicap
ramp
and
two
crosswalks
so
I.
F
In
that
one
little
corner
there
see
all
of
the
needs.
We
have
about
making
sure
that
our
you
know
our
crosswalks
are
clear
for
those
waiting
at
the
bus.
Stop
for
those
like
we've
mentioned,
pushing
baby
strollers.
But
my
question,
because
most
of
the
others
have
already
been
addressed,
is
the
relationship
or
how
are
we
doing
with
BPS,
because
I
know
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
calls
last
winter,
going
back
and
forth,
knowing
as
a
school
teacher
that
it
is
in
the
BPS
budget
to
clear
their
sidewalks
fully
around
the
school
I
know.
F
Sometimes
it's
just
a
safe
path
outside
the
front
door,
but
also
around
the
city,
making
sure
that
our
kids
are
able
to
safely
get
on
the
buses
and
then
how?
If
you
just
want
to
talk
to
that.
D
So
the
relationship
with
the
Boston
Public
School
Systems
is
is,
is
one
that's
largely
after
action
after
snowstorms
to
your
point,
you
know:
they've
got
contractors
they've
got
folks
who
are
charged
with
doing
their
parking
lots.
They've
got
janitorial
staff
who
do
sidewalks.
They've
got
other
contractors
who
handle
their
other
like
if
they
got
a
footpath
through
their
property
or
but
we
kind
of
come
in
after
the
fact
on
a
larger
scale.
Snow
storm,
they'll,
they'll,
send
over
high
high
I,
didn't
want
to
say
the
exact
term.
D
100
students
are
more
at
a
bus.
Stop
they've
got
those
highlighted
and
they'll
get
that
to
us
again
on
a
large
scale,
snow
storm.
Then
you
know,
as
we
get
into
snow
removal
and
we're
trying
to
take
the
relief
off
of
you
know
a
Seaver
Street
or
a
Humboldt
in
a
district
we're
also.
You
know
we
have
that
100
child
on
our
list
as
well.
We
we
post
and
do
snow
removal
there.
It's
a
you
know
when
you
talk
more
about
snow.
When
you
talk
more
about
what
we
do,
we
do.
D
We
do
a
lot-
and
you
know
I'm
hearing
that
and,
like
you
know
these
men
and
women
on
our
team
who
are
who
are
who
are
doing
this,
have
that
on
their
list-
and
you
know
our
snow
removal
is
largely-
is
largely
school
bus
stops,
and
then
you
know
that
square
that
sees
you
know
maybe
House
of
worships
that
see
a
lot
of
folks
congregate
on
a
Sunday.
We
kind
of
know
those
spots
as
well.
D
That
kind
of
we
kind
of
try
to
take
that
pressure
off
as
well
be
on
any,
maybe
piles
that
have
occurred
because,
like
I
said
earlier,
when
you
push
snow
you
push
snow
and
there's
piles
are
going
to
occur
places
you
I
truly
wish
they
weren't,
but
they
have
to
go
away
so
it's
kind
of
in
that
Cadence,
but
that
you
know
we
get
that.
You
know
the
school
department
is
very
quick
to
send
us
that
work.
F
And
talking
about
the
bus
lanes
also,
the
bus
stops
school
bus
stops.
Also.
Is
there
a
priority
list?
I
know
you
saying
that
most
of
your
drivers
know
the
neighborhoods
they
know
like
you
mentioned
house
of
worship,
it's
going
to
be
busy
or
this
is
where
the
kids
congregate
to
get
on
a
bus.
D
Yep
so
as
far
as
the
MBTA
bus
stops
go,
you
know
they're
charged
with
handling
their
bus
stops
we
we're
charged
with
making
sure
the
streets
are
wide
enough
for
them
to
get
to
their
bus.
Stop.
If
that
makes.
D
Push
puller,
but
so
so,
as
these
you
know
floating
bus
lanes
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
we
get
some
on
Colombia
Columbus,
some
more
coming
on
Tremont,
so
so
we're
kind
of
working
through,
but
we
always
know
we're
going
in
the
winter
who
owns
what
it
doesn't
mean.
You
know
in
the
middle
of
the
night
it
can
get.
You
know,
you're
pushing
snow
back
and
forth,
but
that
that
priority
list
comes
from
BPS
for
their
bus
stops.
The
MBTA
is
charged
with
their
work
like
they're
at
their
High
scale.
A
Thank
you
so
much
counselor,
Murphy
I
just
had
a
couple
other
things,
one
question
superintendent:
it
was
just
whether
there's
been
any
progress
and
and
I
asked
this
question
thinking
that
it's
sort
of
it's
sort
of
the
task
of
other
people.
Besides
public
works
but
I
think
we've.
We've
talked
before
about
the
fact
that,
like
as
we
create
sort
of
kind
of
like
nebulous
third
public
spaces
in
the
city,
snow
clearance
of
them
becomes
a
challenge,
and
so
obviously
you've
referenced.
A
The
fact
that,
as
we
increase
the
bus,
the
bike
lane
Network,
we
need
to
be
clearing
those
but
I
know.
We've
also
encountered
issues
where,
for
instance,
like
we
do
a
big
bump
out
in
order
to
make
it
safer
to
cross
the
street.
But
then
the
the
bump
out
is
no
longer
in
front
of
a
specific
private
citizens
curve
because
there
might
be
a
secondary
sidewalk
that
is
in
front
of
their
curb,
and
so
then
suddenly,
it's
like
who
owns
the
bump
out
or
we
create
an
island
to
help
pedestrians
cross
a
wide
intersection.
A
And
then
it's
like
who
owns
the
island
and
you
end
up
with
little
go
paths
and
pedestrians
stranded
in
a
busy
intersection
and
I
know
that
in
in
practice,
you've
been
incredibly
accommodating.
D
So
we've
started
those
conversations
with
that
green
infrastructure
areas,
which
is
kind
of
that.
D
You
know
that
just
what
you
just
described-
Fremont
Street's
one,
that's
in
my
head-
we've
got
the
ones
that
were
built
100
years
ago
that
we've
talked
about
down
near
like
the
Westin
Hotel
in
Downtown
near
Champions,
and
you
know
that
area
of
just
islands,
where
you
send
people
to
and
say
well
who
owns
it
and
you
know
so
we're
having
those
conversations,
we're
going
to
have
a
we're
going
to
roll
out
I
think
through
the
streets
cabinet,
someone
who
will
be
a
point
person
to
kind
of
look
at.
D
You
know
how
do
we
who
handles
it?
You
know
if
it's
if
it's
City
grade,
if
it's
not
you
know,
who's
got
the
contracts,
but
we've
started
those
conversations.
I
had
a
conversation
briefly
with
Kate
England
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago
to
kind
of
talk
talk
through
how
this
could
look.
So
everything
is
happening
fast
because
things
will
get
built.
You
know
sometimes
people
say
things
get
built
slow
and
that's
right,
but
sometimes
they
get
built
fast
to
operational
people.
D
You're
then
going
to
maintain
them,
but
we
out
talking
through
that
that
future
problem
that
I
think
has
always
people
walk
themselves
into
and
now,
okay,
now
we
have
this.
What's
going
to
happen
to
it,
we've
got
stairs
and
footpaths
in
the
city
that
go
back
to
like
the
New
Deal
like
Monastery
path
in
Brighton,
the
Alpha
Road
stairs
had
in
foot
way
behind
St
Andrews.
We
like
they're
at
the
88th
and
eastie
like
we've,
got
all
these
things
that
the
highway
division
has
always
handled
we've.
D
We
are
kind
of
using
the
contractors
to
kind
of
help,
help
with
that
burden
and
Clarence
Perkins
actually
just
recently
been
promoted
to
kind
of
oversee
a
lot
of
this
good
work,
which
has
been
awesome
and
with,
and
so
we're
looking
at
that,
the
same
way
with
these
islands
and
these
kind
of
like
you
know
what
did
we
just
build
and
how
do
we
now
maintain
it
forever,
but
those
conversations
are
happening.
A
Great,
that's
awesome
to
hear
and
and
do
we
do,
we
feel
I
mean
Council
Murphy
asked
about
the
schools,
but
do
we
feel
in
general,
like
our
departments,
I,
guess
I,
just
always
wonder
like
it.
It's
it's
anecdotal,
but
as
a
counselor
there's,
like
you
know,
I
think
we
all
have
kind
of
problem.
Sidewalks
we
know
of
that.
We
find
out
are
kind
of
owned
by
a
city
Department
that
isn't
you
guys,
often
and
so.
D
Wouldn't
speak
for
individual
departments.
I
just
speak
to
kind
of
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it,
because
we
do
have
code
enforcement
with
our
umbrella.
We
tend
to
hear
from
folks
and
we
kind
of
alert
folks.
You
know
based
off
of
you
know:
ticket
volumes,
maybe-
and
just
you
know
some
just
some
just
some
you
know
information
we
share
back
and
forth,
but
I
would
be
I'd,
be
over
my
skis
and
inappropriately
in
someone
else's
Lane.
If
I
spoke
about.
A
Sure,
understandable,
I
think
it's
just
like
yeah
I
think
that's
one
of
those
where
the
constituents
you
know
when
we
say
to
the
constituents.
Oh
well,
it's
technically
another
department
from
their
perspective.
It's
like
it's
the
city,
so
it
needs
to
be
clear
and
obviously
the
city
I
mean
I.
Don't
I,
don't
think
do
City
departments
have
a
practice
of
actually
paying
you
guys
for
code
enforcement.
We.
A
Okay,
because
yeah
I
think
that
you
know,
obviously
we
would
rather
see
the
behavior
change
than
the
budget
transfers
as
people
who
you
know,
do
the
budgets.
A
We
think
for
reasons
yeah
and
then
just
I
think
the
other
thing
to
say
is
just
like
for
me,
as
you
know,
like
I,
would
love
to
live
in
a
world
in
which
we
cleared
the
sidewalks
of
the
city
like
I,
I
I
think
that
the
mode
of
getting
around
the
city
walking
is
you
know
it's
a
dominant
mode
in
a
lot
of
the
area
that
I
represent
and
I.
A
Think
that
like
it
should
be
as
accessible
as
people
getting
in
their
cars,
especially
with
so
many
City
residents
who
don't
own
cars,
and
we,
you
know-
and
we
talked
about
the
fact
when
we
did
these.
This
is
related
to
counselor
Louis
Jen's
point.
When
we
sort
of
did
working
sessions
looking
at
Rochester
and
Syracuse,
you
know,
Rochester
obviously
adds
substantial
additional
resources
to
get
that
done
like
they.
A
They
charge
a
fee,
they
basically
they've
taken
on
the
work,
but
then
they've
also
assessed
to
feed
all
the
property
owners
to
basically
pay
for
doing
that
in
volume
and
so
and
then
on
the
Syracuse
side.
I,
agree,
I
think
we
got
to
keep
following
their
pilot
with
interest.
They
came
and
talked
to
us
and
then,
as
a
superintendent
said,
they
kind
of
then
froze
their
project
after
a
year.
So
it
was
a
little
bit
hard
to
to
follow
the
development
there.
A
It's
kind
of
interesting
because
well
they're
doing
a
lot
of
the
work
on
the
city
Side.
They
they're.
They
also
have
kind
of
like
one
Keystone
institution,
Syracuse
University
there
and
they've
kind
of
built
this
also
as
a
partnership
with
the
university.
They
thought
about
kind
of
Pathways
that
were
being
like
kind
of
standard
pedestrian
routes
that
people
were
walking
and
in
the
places
where
the
institution
had
those
they
kind
of
got
some
help
there.
So
I
think
it
raised
an
interesting
question
for
us
of
like.
A
Could
we
be
asking
our
institutional
Partners
to
do
some
more
of
that
type
of
work
in
addition
to
their
own
frontages?
Like
hey
help
us
with
these
connections,
but
it's
there's
both
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
that
in
Boston,
and
it's
more
complicated
than
having
like
one
major
Keystone
institution
in
the
way
that
they
do,
and
at
least
the
university
kind
of
area
of
Syracuse.
A
A
What
I
just
want
to
express
and
appreciate
is
that
you
know
we
had
those
conversations
last
year
about
kind
of
all
these
sort
of
more
formal
things,
and
it
was
sort
of
like
well
the
city's
not
going
to
instantly
jump
to
doing
a
new
property
tax
assessment
for
sidewalk
clearance,
and
we
also
you
know
we
aren't
quite
sure
how
to
set
up
the
same
level
of
formal
partnership
that
Syracuse
is
doing.
But
I
just
really
appreciate
that
the
superintendent
kind
of
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
said
like
well.
A
What
could
we
do
fast
and
you
know
what
resources
are
available
and
basically
put
out
the
call
for
like
who
has
Bobcats
that
they
could
bring
in
and
and
so
I
just
you
know,
I
think
you
know
that
I'm
I'm,
like
always,
trying
to
nudge
Us
in
the
direction
of
just
clearing
all
the
sidewalks,
with
the
recognition
that
I
mean
you
need
to
get
at
least
back
to
that
400
again.
A
If
we
were
going
to
do
that,
and
instead
we're
having
a
tough
time
hiring
right
now
so
but
I
just
I,
just
really
want
to
say
how
much,
how
much
I
appreciate
the
initiative
that's
been
taken
here
and
and
the
the
real
progress
that
I
feel
like
my
constituents
saw
last
winter,
and
so
the
idea
that
we're
going
to
add
some
more
equipment
there
and
you
know,
and
that
we'll
all
learn
more
about
how
to
Target
it
time-wise
location,
wise
and
then
that
we
build
towards
this
kind
of
you
know
fun.
A
The
arpa
funded
thing
next
year
with
the
main
streets
districts
and
really
you
know
for
all
of
us,
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
be
able
to
say.
Oh
yeah,
that
District,
like
that's,
covered,
and
it's
not
just
ramps.
It's
you
know
the
sidewalks
and
we
kind
of
we
can.
We
can
tell
constituents
what
to
expect
on
that
front
because
I
do
think.
A
Like
you
know,
expectations
is
a
significant
piece
of
this,
because
people
want
to
plan
their
lives
and-
and
it's
really
tough,
if,
if
your
Mobility
limited
and
you
get
out
thinking,
you're
going
to
be
able
to
run
an
errand
after
a
storm,
and
you
just
discover
that
you
can't
or
you
feel
like
you're
in
danger
of
falling
so
yeah.
A
So
that's
just
a
a
long
way
of
saying
thank
you
for
all
that
you're
doing
and
and
we're
gonna
keep
partnering
on
this
and
and
I'm
really
excited
about
it
and
and
hopeful
for
all
of
our
sake
that
it's
a
mild
winter,
but
but
grateful
grateful
for
you
making
the
time
to
talk
to
us
about
it.
We
obviously
wanted
to
kind
of
do
this
check-in
before
the
first
snowflakes
hit
the
ground,
and
we
did
succeed
in
that.
A
So
at
least
there
I
want
to
just
go
to
colleagues
I'll
just
checked
it
with
counselor
luigien
and
then
go
to
my
co-sponsor
for
the
for
and
closing
again.
E
Just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
holding
this
meeting,
especially
holding
this
hearing,
especially
before
we
get
any
snow
on
the
ground,
which
you
know,
Boston
we've
had
Halloween
tricks
of
of
a
snowstorm,
and
so
just
want
to
again
reiterate
how
important
it
is
to
the
work
that
you
do
and
want
to.
Thank
you
because
oftentimes,
the
folks
who
keep
this
for
City
running,
don't
hear.
Thank
you
enough.
So
thank
you.
E
We
know
it's
incredibly
challenging,
especially
when
all
you're
here
hearing
is
the
tweets
and
the
and
the
messages
of
like
hey
you're,
not
doing
enough
you're,
not
doing
it
fast
enough.
It's
just.
It
can
be
a
moment.
That's
really
tense
for
the
city
when
folks
are
trying
to
run
those
errands
when
folks
are
trying
to
get
to
school,
and
there
are
these
snow
banks
that
are
really
preventing
them
from
getting
there
and
so
I
think.
E
We've
heard
the
call
to
action,
at
least
for
myself
as
a
city
councilor,
is
that
continuing
to
encourage
residents
to
call
3-1-1
to
put
in
any
issues
on
the
streets
or
sidewalks
continue
to
cite
absentee
landlords
who
fail
to
properly
clear.
E
The
sidewalk
I
think
that's
incredibly
important
to
hold
them
to
tasks
to
all
the
ways
in
which
they
undermine
the
good
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
here
in
the
city
and
also
how
we
can
support
you
as
a
city
council
when
it
comes
time
to
budget
hearing
to
ensure
that
we
are
paying
those
who
are
making
our
city
work,
a
competitive
salary
so
that
they
want
to
come
here
and
stay
here
and
work
with
us,
especially
our
CDLs,
those
with
licenses.
E
So
this
is
a
call
out
to
anyone
who
has
a
CDL
license
or
wants
to
get
one.
The
city
of
Boston
wants
you,
and
so
I
apprec
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you're
doing,
and
we
will
try
to
remember
this
hearing
and
the
grace
of
which
you
presented
the
information
when
we
start
getting
calls
from
our
constituents
during
storms
and
just
know,
I
hope
people
know
how
hard
we
really
are
trying
to
work
to
solve
these
problems
that
you
know
right
now.
E
It's
not
everyone's
Focus,
because
there's
no
snow
on
the
ground,
but
they
become
critical
issues.
So
thank
you
to
thank
you.
Superintendent
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
residents
who
help
out
and
clear
their
neighbors
sidewalks
I
mean
who
really
help
us
make
this
a
a
better
City
by
looking
out
for
our
neighbors,
and
so
thank
you
to
our
residents.
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues
and
thank
you.
Superintendent.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
again,
and
thank
you,
superintendent,
bro
and
also
just
want
to
just
you
know,
lift
up
the
names
of
the
the
superintendents
in
the
in
the
yard,
Clarence
Perkins,
Lily,
Simon
and
also
Norman
Parks.
You
know
those
guys
every
time
I
call
they're
there
during
the
snowstorm
during
trees
falling.
B
You
know
every
day,
so
thank
you
guys
again
and
also
any
way
that
we
could
be
supportive
of
a
city
council
office
I'm
here
to
be
supportive
of
those
guys
in
of
your
work
that
you
continue
to
do
to
make
sure
that
you
know
our
city
is
safe,
clean
and
the
snow
gets
declared
I
used
to
work
in
facilities,
management
and
I.
I
can
remember
you
know
it's.
You
know
months
before
the
snowstorm
checking
on
the
equipment.
B
A
Oh,
thank
you
so
much.
We
don't
have
any
public
testimony
signed
up
today,
so
we
look
forward
to
all
partnering
on
this
throughout
the
winter
and
with
that
this
hearing
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All.