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City Services & Innovation Technology Hearing- Docket #0378- Order for a hearing to increase the pay for Boston Municipal Officers.
A
B
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Brian
Worrell
District
4
City,
councilor
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee,
city
services
and
innovation
technology.
I
am
joined
today
by
my
Council
colleagues,
counselor
Ed
council
president
Ed
Flynn
councilor
Tonya
Fernanda,
Anderson,
councilor,
Julie,
Mejia,
councilor,
Frank,
Baker
and
also
councilor
Louis
Jang.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
council,
Dash,
Council,
Dash
TV.
It
will
be
re-prodcasted
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN
channel
82,
Verizon
FiOS
channel
964..
B
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
beginning
of
this
hearing
and
if
you
wish
to
testify
via
video
conference,
please
email
cora.montron
m-o-n-t-r-o-n-d
at
boston.gov
to
sign
up
when
you
are
called
on.
Please
state
your
name
and
affiliation,
slash,
resident
and
leave
me
your
comments
to
no
more
than
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
can
be
heard.
B
You
can.
You
may
also
submit
written
testimony
by
emailing
ccc.csit
boston.gov
today,
hearing
is
on
docket
number
0378
order
for
a
hearing
to
increase
the
pay
for
Boston
Municipal
officers
expected
speakers.
Well,
we
do
not
have
the
administration
so
we're
only
joined
here
by
Kevin
Coughlin,
president
of
Municipal
Police
patrolsmen
Association,
local
173
I,
don't
have
everyone
else's
name,
but
please
when
I
call
on
you.
Please
state
it
for
the
record
and
the
sponsors
of
this
on
the
right
here.
B
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
so
we're
also
joined
here
by
Harriet
Griffin
who's,
a
municipal
office,
police
officer,
shamaya,
Barrett,
Smith
who's.
Also,
a
municipal
police
officer
I've
named
Kevin
Coughlin
who's,
the
president
of
Municipal
officers,
Francisco
cologne,
vice
president
of
the
municipal
officers
and
Paul
Dolan,
Municipal
officer,
Municipal
sergeant
and
Deborah
Batista
New,
England,
police,
Association,
representative.
C
C
My
Association
I'm
of
bmps
and
I'm
here
to
testify,
on
behalf
of
my
fellow
officers
in
regards
to
an
increase
in
our
pay
I
think
it's
noteworthy
to
know
that
most
of
us,
if
not
all
of
us,
spend
most
of
our
days
and
sometimes
nights
here
as
opposed
to
our
families
and
our
loved
ones.
We
work
diligently.
C
We
work
hard
when
we're
expected
to
do
something
not
only
for
ourselves
but
for
the
constituents
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
as
well
as
for
the
counselors
and
folks
that
work
here
in
the
various
departments,
we
are
implicit
about
making
certain
that
we
take
care
of
whatever
we
need
to
take
care
of
we've.
We've
we've
been
good
at
making
sure
that
people
who
cause
disturbances
here
in
the
in
this
in
City
Hall
that
we
remove
them
at
with
haste.
C
We
make
sure
that
we
record
any
information.
We
do
reports
in
regards
to
things
that
that
happen
and
I
think
I
think
we
we
do
well.
We
do
very
well.
We
do
good
and
I
think
an
increase
is
something
that's
long
overdue
and
we
would
appreciate
the
council
in
terms
of
looking
at
it
and
considering
increasing
our
pay.
B
And
now
I'll
go
to
our
councils
for
opening
remarks
in
order
of
arrival,
but
before
I
pass
it
off
to
my
counselors
I.
Just
want
to
thank
you
to
this
call
to
the
sponsors,
Council,
Finance,
Anderson,
Council,
Flaherty
and
council
president
Flynn.
Our
city
has
an
obligation
to
provide
pay
that,
at
the
very
least,
allows
our
employees
to
fulfill
their
residency
requirements.
Well,
this
is,
of
course,
true
for
all
city
employees.
It
hits
closer
to
home
when
we're
talking
about
a
municipal
protection
officers.
B
These
folks
are
people's
first
contacts
in
City
Hall
daily,
and
they
go
above
and
beyond
to
help
people
navigate
this
Maze
of
a
building
to
keep
us
safe,
respond
to
medical
emergency
and
allow
us
all
to
do
our
jobs
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
this
conversation
and
want
to
specifically
thank
Kevin
Coughlin
and
the
whole
Union
for
bringing
this
forward,
and
with
that
said,
we'll
go
into
order
of
arrival,
starting
with
counselor
city
council
at
large,
Amber
Murphy.
D
I
want
you
to
stay
in
this
job,
but
I
want
you
to
also
know
that
you
need
to
be
paid
respectfully
so
that
you
show
up
and
are
paid
for
what
you're
worth
we
talk
about
it
all
the
time
in
different
departments
for
different
people
in
the
city.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
advocating
for
you
and
not
just
you
know,
taking
a
picture
with
you,
but
also
and
that's
why
we
all
signed
on
and
I
know.
D
B
E
E
University
study
has
found
that
salary,
a
salary
of
198,
sorry
181
thousand
dollars,
is
needed
to
own
a
home.
In
Boston,
the
U.S
Bureau
of
Labor
Statistics
has
recorded
that
Boston
Consumer
Price
Index
has
risen
by
seven
percent
from
2021
to
2022,
with
Energy
prices
increasing
to
29.5
percent
and
food
prices
increasing
by
10.8
percent
and
in
accordance
to
chapter
5,
Section
5-53.3
of
the
Boston
Municipal
Code.
E
Department
Which
is
less
than
200
percent
above
the
poverty
level,
and
fourteen
thousand
fourteen
thousand
and
twelve
dollars
and
30
cents
Less
in
Boston's
average
per
capita
income
and
bmps
maximum
salary
is
fifty
one
thousand
two
hundred
point
six
dollars
which
is
obtained
after
working
for
four
consecutive
years
for
the
bpms,
As
and
bpms
I'm.
Sorry
bmps
plays
an
integral
role
in
protecting
and
preserving
our
publicly
owned
spaces,
while
allowing
the
overstretch
Boston,
Police
Department,
to
focus
on
other
areas
and
city
code
enforcement
officer.
E
Counselor,
chair,
Worrell,
I,
appreciate
you
and
allowing
me
to
to
read
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
with
all
the
politics
in
the
city,
it's
very
difficult
for
you,
the
officers
to
actually
to
have
the
courage,
but
to
have
the
presence
of
mind
to
come
to
me
and
to
say
hey.
This
is
an
issue
or
for
me
to
come
to
you
and
say
I
see
that
this
is
an
issue.
Is
this
an
issue
and
then
you're
responding
well
yeah?
Actually,
in
order
for
us
to
live
in
Boston,
we
not
only
have
to
work
overtime.
E
We
not
only
have
to
do
this,
but
our
quality
life
is
poor.
We
have
to
work
up
to
60
80
per
hours
a
week
just
to
make
ends
meet
just
to
pay
our
rent
just
to
stay
in
the
city
that
we're
mandated
to
live
in
order
for
us
to
work
here.
It's
not
fair.
It's
not
right
and
I
applaud
you
for
your
courage
and
I'm
here,
standing
with
you
whether
or
not
this
hearings
are
recorded,
you
can
play
it
over
and
over.
You
can
send
it.
You
can
tag
it,
you
can
ex.
E
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
conducting
this
meeting
and
honored
to
be
a
co-sponsor
with
Mike
colleagues,
Council
Flaherty,
who
couldn't
be
here
but
wanted
to
be
here.
He
had
a
an
emergency
at
his
at
his
home,
but
he
wants
us
to
know
that
he
is
100
in
support
of
the
municipal
offices
also
wanted
to
join
Council
Fernandez
Anderson,
and
thank
you
to
council
Fernandez
Anderson
for
taking
the
lead
for
the
important
leadership
she
is
providing
and
I.
Think
Council
of
Fernandez
Anderson
is
right.
This
is
this
is
about
Justice
and
that's.
F
What
we're
here
for
today
is
is
about
respect
and
justice
for
the
Municipal
Employees
Minnesota
Public
Safety
employees.
You
are
dedicated
professionals,
you
protect
Preserve
public,
open
spaces,
and
you
currently
have
pay
that's
big
old,
the
salary
level
needed
to
live
in
Boston,
as
many
of
my
colleagues
have
mentioned,
I
think
I
came
to
work
every
day
during
during
the
pandemic,
and
I
saw
Municipal
police
officers
here
every
day
as
well
doing
the
work
protecting
the
residents
providing
security
I.
F
Even
thank
you
guys
for
helping
with
the
public
health
Outreach
in
terms
of
providing
assistance
with
checking
people
in
sometimes
we
have
difficult
visitors
come
in.
You
place
yourself,
In
Harm's
Way,
at
times
in
front
of
us
City
councils
in
the
public,
making
sure
we
are
safe.
So
we're
able
to
do
our
job
that
we
were
elected
to
do
by
the
residents
of
the
city.
F
We
make
a
good
salary
in
here.
You
are
putting
putting
your
safety
on
the
line
and
you're
not
making
good
salary
you're
making
peanuts.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned
and
I'm,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I'm
embarrassed
about
it.
I
know.
People
don't
want
want
to
hear
that,
but
I
am
embarrassed
about
how
low
your
pay
is.
F
Your
salary
is,
is
so
low
that
you're
not
able
to
raise
a
family
on
and
you
have
to
and
you're
required
to
live
in
the
city.
I.
Look
around
here
at
the
municipal
police
offices
and
I.
One
of
the
best
parts
of
my
day
is
when
I
come
in,
to
see
you
in
the
morning
and
you're
so
pleasant.
But
do.
But
does
the
public
know
that
this
is
the
most
diverse.
F
F
F
I
think
you
came
here
looking
for
respect
and
I
think
you've
earned
it
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
you
want
to
be
here
asking
for
a
raise,
but
that's
our
job
is
to
advocate,
for
you
you're
our
neighbors
you're
involved
in
our
community
you're,
our
colleagues
and
you
deserve
to
be
treated
with
respect
and
dignity
and
I
know.
My
colleagues
here
are
trying
to
do
that
and
we're
with
you
100
of
the
way.
Thank
you,
Mr
Jim
thank.
G
You
Mr
chair
good
morning:
everybody
I'm
I'm,
supportive
of
you
guys.
You've
been
involved
in
multiple
situations
where,
for
people
that
were
in
my
life,
there
was
occur
to
gods
that
were
there
to
help
I
know.
Council
Fernandez
has
a
story
Damsel
in
Distress,
with
the
tie
up
flat
tie,
you
guys
won't
fix
it.
My
colleague's
father
hit
the
ground
and
you
guys
were
there
to
make
sure
that
he
got
the
proper
treatment
that
he
needed.
G
I've
just
got
a
ton
of
questions
and
just
want
to
let
you
know,
opening
statements
with
you
and
and
I
want
to
drill
down
a
little
bit
on
on
what
your
proposals
are
and,
and
hopefully
we're
going
to
be
successful.
We
do
have
participatory
budgeting
this
year.
It's
been
going
on
for
a
couple
years.
So
hopefully
there
are
some
amendments
prepared
to
help
speak
to
this.
H
Thank
you
counciloral
and
I.
Thank
you
to
the
co-sponsors.
Thank
you
to
the
municipal
police
officers
for
being
here.
I
don't
see
Marvin,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
Marvin
for
his
testimony
and
I
know
it's
a
testimony
that
a
lot
of
you
all
share.
Your
wages,
as
everyone
has
said,
has
failed
to
keep
up
with
inflation.
H
It
is
laughable
how
much
people
make
when
we
look
at
the
cost
of
living
in
the
city.
When
we
look
how
expensive
it
is
to
buy
a
home,
let
me
look
at
the
fact
that
this
is
the
second
most
expensive
city
to
rent
and
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
doing
what
I
think
is
always
important,
which
is
providing
data
here.
H
We
have
data
comparing
the
city
of
Boston,
the
second
most
expensive
city,
to
rent
with
other
cities,
and
we
should
not
be
happy
about
where
we
are
in
terms
of
how
we
pay
people,
how
we
pay
people,
if
you
tell
people.
Thank
you
I
tell
you.
Thank
you
all
the
time.
Thank
you
is
not
enough.
It
has
to
be
reflected
in
how
we
treat
you
and
that,
as
is
reflected
in
your
paycheck
and
so
I'm
happy
and
encouraged
that
we
are
meeting
here
today.
H
Working
for
the
city
of
Boston
has
traditionally
been
a
way
for
people
to
secure
their
way
into
the
middle
class,
be
able
whether
it
be
as
a
municipal
police
officer,
the
clerk
or
as
admin.
This
could
be
a
way
for
you
to
make
a
living.
That
is
no
longer
the
case,
and
we
have
work
to
do
to
make
that
a
reality
for
all
of
you
who
work
in
Server
City
every
day
who
work
overtime,
who
work
long
shifts,
who
are
there
for
all
of
us
in
moments
of
duress?
H
For
me,
my
moment
of
duress
is
always
I,
never
have
my
badge
and
always
need
to
get
into
the
garage.
So
thank
you
all
for
always
opening
the
door
for
me,
but
we
rely
on
your
on
your
dedication
commitment
to
provide
Essential,
Safety
Services
to
the
city
and
to
these
buildings
you
work
callously
to
help
our
building
and
our
city
run
smoothly.
Yet
in
this
fiscal
year
we're
seeing
that
decrease
of
327
thousand
dollars
and
in
the
budget
in
the
budget
Personnel
line
item.
H
So
in
April,
this
committee
and
we
on
the
city
council,
unanimously
passed
docket
zero.
Five,
two
one,
a
municipal
wage
study
order.
This
order
tasks,
the
city
to
conduct
a
review
of
all
of
city,
employees,
salaries
and
incomes,
focusing
on
our
lowest
wage
workers
and
exploring
the
creation
of
a
municipal
minimum
wage.
H
I
say
this
as
a
daughter
of
working
class
immigrants
who
are
watching
my
parents,
you
know:
go
paycheck
to
paycheck
to
see
if
they
had
enough
money.
We
can
reduce
the
stress
of
our
residents
if
we
just
make
it
easier
for
them
to
live
in
the
city
and
if
we
make
it
easier
for
them
to
make
a
living
wage
where
they
can
support
their
family.
So
I'm
with
you
all
the
way,
I
think
my
colleagues
and
I
look
forward
to
this
discussion.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
Council
Louis,
Jane
and
I
have
a
couple
letters
of
absence,
one
from
Council
Liz
Braden
and
the
other
one
from
Renee
bushy,
director
of
city
of
Boston,
labor
relations
and
I'm.
Just
going
to
read
those
two
into
record
Council
Braden
writes
dear
chair,
Worrell
I
am
regretful
and
regretfully,
I
am
unable
unable
to
attend
today's
Hearing
in
the
committee
on
city
services,
innovation,
technology
I
am
firmly
in
support
of
a
living
wage
for
the
city's
Municipal
Protective
Service
officers.
B
I,
look
forward
to
being
in
attendance
at
Future
hearings
and
engaging
in
further
conversations.
Thank
you:
Liz
Braden,
boss,
city
council,
District,
9,
Austin,
Brighton,
director
of
Boston
labor
relations,
director
bushy
rights,
dear
cheer
Worrell.
Thank
you
for
your
invitation
to
testify
before
the
council,
at
its
hearing
on
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation,
technology,
hearing
on
docket
number
zero.
Three
seven
eight,
however,
on
behalf
of
the
various
persons
invited
to
testify,
the
city
of
Boston
must
respectfully
decline
on
your
invitation.
B
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
set
forth
in
the
hearing
order
increasing
the
pay
and
salary
of
the
Boston
Municipal
Protective
Services,
implicates
collective
bargaining
issues
for
two
bargaining
units
with
the
city
of
Boston.
The
bargain
and
for
these
units
is
actively
underway
in
the
city.
Representatives
cannot
disclose
confidential
information,
such
as
collective
bargaining
strategies,
objective
or
similar
such
information
at
the
public
hearing.
I
Good
afternoon
councilor
Worrell
chair
city
services
committee,
my
name
is
Kevin
Coughlin
and
I
stand
before
you
today.
As
a
president
president
of
the
most
diverse
Union
in
the
city
of
Boston,
Boston
municipal
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here,
I'd
like
to
thank
you,
councilor
warrell,
for
supporting
and
holding
this
hearing
today.
I
also
need
to
thank
councilor,
Fernandez,
Anderson,
councilman,
Michael
Flaherty
and
president
councilor
Flynn
for
filing
this
order
for
a
hearing
to
increase
the
pay
for
Boston
municipal
offices.
I
We
also
need
to
thank
councilor
Baker,
Council,
Lara,
councilor,
Arroyo
consulate,
braiding
consulution,
councilor,
Mejia
and
Council
Coletta
and
consulate
Aaron
Murphy
for
their
support
on
all
these
issues.
Sit
with
me
today
is
Sergeant
Paul
Donald.
Vice
president
Frank
cologne
officer,
shamilia
Barrett,
Smith
officer,
Harriet
Griffith
in
our
national
representative
from
New
England
police,
benevolent
Association,
Deborah
Batista.
I
We
are
the
Boston
municipal
offices
and
we
need
your
help
guidance
and
advocacy
to
help
our
members
gain
Fair
inequitable
wages.
We
are
obligated
to
live
in
the
city
of
Boston,
which
has
continually
been
ranked
in
the
top
10
most
expensive
places
to
live
in
the
U.S.
It
was
ranked
second
behind
New
York
City.
Just
last
year,
Boston
housing
expenses,
a
hundred,
are
124
percent
higher
than
the
national
average
futility
prices
of
25
5
higher
in
transportation.
I
I
The
cost
of
living
in
these
two
cities
is
30
percent,
less
than
what
it
costs
to
live
in
the
city
of
Boston.
The
results
of
the
study
do
not
reflect
these
crucial
considerations
and
with
minimal.
At
best
we
strive
to
gain
respect
and
dignity,
fear
inequitable
pay,
a
sufficient
work-life
balance
and
the
opportunity
to
purchase
a
house
in
the
city.
I
We
call
home
Boston,
we,
the
Boston
municipal
offices,
you
see
us
every
single
day
from
helping
you
open
a
locked
door,
assisting
you
to
change
a
flat
tire
after
a
long
day,
work
or
jumping
into
action
to
perform
CPR
to
help
save
someone's
life.
We
are
ambassadors
for
the
city.
We
are
the
face
of
the
city
from
assistant
constituents
at
Boston,
City
Hall,
to
welcoming
Cruise
passengers
at
the
Raymond
Flynn
Industrial
Park.
I
We
constantly
answer
the
call
of
duty
effectively,
for
example,
when
the
city
needed
us
to
screen
and
temperature
check
every
single
person
that
came
into
City
Hall
and
all
the
other
City
buildings
we
obliged
because
it
was
necessary
for
the
city
city
to
stay
operational
and
it
helped
everyone
remain
safe.
We
risk
our
health
and
our
family's
health
because
the
city
needed
our
help.
Now
we
need
the
city
to
acknowledge
our
hard
work
and
respect
alcohol
for
change.
I
We.
We
are
one
of
the
lowest
paid
departments
in
the
city,
with
the
highest
paid
members
being
paid
so
low
that
we
would
need
a
56
percent
pay
increase
to
earn
a
salary
that
would
equal
Boston's
median
income
and
afford
us
to
live
where
we
are
required
to.
In
the
city
of
Boston
at
eighty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
we
are
not
asking
for
that.
We
are
just
asking
for
a
wage
that
is
fair
and
impactful
to
us
to
help
all
our
members
who
have
committed
their
service
to
this
great
City.
I
What
we
are
asking
for
is
fair
and
reasonable,
not
impactful
to
the
city
but
effective
for
every
single
Municipal
officer.
You
see
here
in
the
ones
who
will
join
in
the
future.
We
are
tasked
with
the
challenging
duty.
Every
day
we
have
50
total
offices
to
fill
53
daily
spots.
We
work
24
7
365
days
a
year
on
a
rotating
schedule.
I
I
We
have
been
operating
at
job
openings
of
30
to
40
percent,
and
it's
all
due
to
the
discrepancies
in
pain,
those
other
comparing
comparable
occupations
receive
25
to
30
percent
more
in
wages
than
our
offices
receive
the
low
pay
and
job
openings
Force.
Our
members
to
fill
the
open
shifts
we
have
had
over
100
shifts
unfilled,
which
forced
offices
to
work
beyond
their
regular
Tour
of
Duty
in
just
the
past
three
months,
inhibiting
their
ability
to
spend
time
with
their
families
or
attend
to
their
other
responsibilities.
I
The
way
we
are
operating
is
unsustainable
and
unfair,
but
it
is
also
amendable.
We
are
looking
to
be
treated
with
respect
and
dignity.
The
rhetoric
of
take
what
you
can
get.
We
can
help
you
out
next
time.
This
is
free.
Money
is
not
a
solution
for
us
anymore.
We
have
heard
that
too
many
times
and
it
never
works
out
in
our
favor.
That
is
why
we
all
are
here
seeking
your
support
and
advocacy.
We
need
help
now
not
later.
I
We
know
this
is
not
a
typical
approach,
but
it
is
a
necessary
approach
approach
for
us
to
survive.
We
have
tried
to
resolve
these
issues.
We
want
this
issue
resolved.
We
were
told
a
year
ago
that
a
weed
study
would
be
performed
on
our
job.
We
have
told
that
a
study
was
the
only
way
we
would
see
a
significant
raise
to
gain
fair
and
Equitable
wages.
I
The
study
was
inefficient
and
inadequate,
to
say
the
least,
and
you
can
see
what
we
received
in
the
handout
I
I
passed
out.
There
was
no
explanation,
no
cost
of
living
adjustment
factored
in
and
it
was
defeat
defeating
to
say
the
least.
We
expected
a
fair,
impartial
study
that
would
help
our
members
survive
in
the
city
of
Boston,
where
we
need
to
live
apartment
rentals
in
the
city
range
from
2157
dollars.
I
For
a
studio
to
three
thousand
eight
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
for
a
three
bedroom,
we
have
done
the
work
explained
our
job
and
our
issues
to
advocate
for
ourselves
to
gain
fair
and
Equitable
wages
for
the
most
diverse
Union
in
the
city
of
Boston.
Now
is
the
time
for
Action
by
you
to
make
this
happen.
We
have
been
told
yeah,
you're
right,
you
are
underpaid.
You
work
too
many
hours.
The
right
challenge
is
needed
in
here
to
do
this
job
you
deserve
more.
We
have
heard
it
all
and
need
this
to
come
to
fruition.
I
We
are
not
asking
for
anything
more
than
what
we
deserve.
What
is
needed
to
survive
in
the
city
of
Boston
in
a
number
that
will
attract
the
appropriate
talents.
We
are
seeking
Equitable
pay
for
the
most
diverse
Union
in
the
city
of
Boston.
You
want
to
change
and
affect
communities.
Here
is
a
perfect
opportunity
to
make
an
impact
for
the
people
who
have
been
excellent
in
this
role
for
years
enough
and
to
offer
new
opportunities
to
the
citizens
of
Boston.
I
A
Hi
I'm
shamelia
Barrett
Smith
I've
been
a
municipal
officer
for
over
three
years,
I'm,
originally
from
Jamaica
and
moved
to
Boston,
to
pursue
a
better
opportunity
for
my
family
and
I.
I
am
married
with
two
kids
I
hope
someday
to
purchase
a
home
for
my
family
and
I
to
enjoy,
and
it's
it's
not
possible
with
our
current
salary
as
a
mother,
one
of
the
biggest
concern
when
working
is
being
forced
to
stay
at
work
because
we're
so
short
staff.
This
happens
often
when
being
forced
I
have
no
one
to
pick
up.
A
My
kids,
my
mom
does
not
drive
my
husband's
in
the
Army
paying
someone
is
too
expensive
on
my
current
salary
and
denying
to
stay
at
work
puts
me
at
risk
of
being
suspended
or
terminated
from
this
job.
This
race
would
make
a
significant
impact
in
my
life
to
try
to
purchase
a
home
from
my
family
and
allow
me
to
provide.
A
J
Hi
good
afternoon
hi,
my
name
is
Harriet
Griffith
I'm
from
Mattapan
I
joined
Municipal
from
another
previous
City
job
in
2022,
I
enjoy
working
as
a
municipal
officer,
but
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
I
have
with
this
job
again
as
shamelia
spoke
on,
is
being
forced
to
stay
for
additional
shifts
in
the
issue.
I
face
are
the
low
wages.
J
A
few
weeks
ago,
my
oldest
daughter
suffered
a
sudden
stroke
because
of
this
I
needed
to
be
there
for
my
daughter,
I
needed
to
be
able
to
go
with
her
to
medical
appointments
and
physical
therapy
activities.
Increase
in
salary
will
help
ease
the
concern
to
provide
and
give
more
Assurance
to
avoid
being
forced
to
stay
for
extra
trips.
I
know
I'm,
not
the
only
officer
who
feels
this
way
or
deals
with
similar
issues.
B
As
we
heard
you
know,
our
our
Municipal
officers
are
dealing
with
a
lot
of
situations,
real
situations
that
can
be
help
change
with
just
an
increase
of
pay,
and
that's
what
we're
here
for
to
Advocate
and
staying
with
you
guys
and
making
sure
that
you
guys
get
the
respect
and
the
pay
that
you
guys
deserve
with.
That
said,
we'll
now
go
to
our
Council
colleagues
for
first
round
of
questioning
and
we'll
start
with
the
lead,
sponsor
counselor
of
Financial
and
descend.
E
Thank
you
chair.
Well,
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
your
statements
and
your
stories
there.
They
they
I
I,
receive
them
and
I'm
with
you.
I
just
have
some
questions
about
exactly
the
pay
and
are
you
able
to
speak
about
what
was
offered
in
comparison
to
where
you
are
in
comparison
to
what
you're
asking
for.
E
I
So
our
initial
offer
to
the
city
of
Boston
and
was
to
have
a
salary
range
from
forty
six
thousand,
eight
hundred
and
ninety
dollars
to
sixty
two
thousand
four
hundred
dollars.
So
that
would
step
one
would
be
the
lowest.
The
last
step
would
be
step
eight.
You
know
it
takes
six
and
a
half
years
to
get
to
step
B,
not
four.
I
I
I
E
E
E
F
F
F
I
Yes-
and
you
know
when
we
started
this
about
a
year
ago,
we
started
this.
A
year
ago,
I've
been
working
on
this.
For
a
year.
We
we
were
down
to
about
42
43
offices.
We
did
get
significant
increase
in
in,
and
employees
or
offices
where
we
grew
to
about
55
56
offices,
we're
down
we're
now
back
down,
250
offices.
You
know
in
the
Years
time
our
roles
in
our
responsibilities
have
increased
so
where
we
only
might
have
had
42
spots
to
fill
on
a
daily
basis.
I
We
now
have
above
53.,
you
know,
and
I
can
speak
just
recently.
We
just
lost
a
young
female
officer
to
go
not
even
to
a
more
a
job
that
paid
her
more,
but
at
the
very
least
she
was
offered
to
tuition
reimbursement.
Or
you
know
we
have.
You
know
she's
looking
to
grow
in
her
life.
She
was
only
22
years
old
and
she,
you
know
this
this.
You
know
we
have
low
pay,
but
we
also
have
no
incentive
of
growth
or
incentive
to
you
know
help
us.
I
F
J
We
were
the
morning
shift,
I
was
only
overnight
first
and
because
of
medical
reasons,
I
had
to
go
to
the
day
shift.
Typically,
you
have
to.
If
you
drive
you
can't
park
here,
so
we
have
to
park
somewhere
else,
and
then
we
get
shuttled
in
we
come
in.
We
take
off,
we
have
roll
call
and
we
take
our
posts
and
we
rotate.
What
is
it.
J
Reposted
throughout
the
day-
and
it's
usually
us
looking
at
the
schedule-
is
our
biggest
fear
when
we
come
in
to
be
honest
with
you
to
see
if
we're
getting
forced
or
if
we
have
to
make
phone
calls
or
arrangements
or
anything
if
we're
either
going
to
make
it
home
at
the
same
time.
So
that's
the
biggest
concern
right.
There.
A
A
J
F
A
A
F
I
mean
I
I,
listen
to
your
opening
statements
and-
and
you
are
exactly
the
the
people
that
we
want
working
in
city
government
you're.
You
love
your
job.
You're
dedicated,
you're,
professional
you're,
honest
you're,
hard
working
in
losing
two
dedicated
people
like
you
in
in
the
others,
as
well,
because
of
a
low
salary.
F
You
know
it
hurts,
it
hurts
the
resonance
it
hurts
the
city.
I
know
you
have
to
do
what
is
best
for
you
and
your
family,
but
that's,
but
that's
our
job
is
to
is
to
advocate
for
decent
wages,
four
workers
we
consider
ourselves
what
the
most
liberal
city
in
the
country,
the
most
Progressive
city
in
the
country.
F
As
you
probably
can
tell
I'm
very
frustrated
about
this
I'm
very,
very
upset
about
this,
but
but
what
I
do
know
is
that
you
love
your
job
and
you
love
your
city.
You
want
to
stay
here,
but
things
aren't
working
out
for
you
because
of
the
salary
and
because
of
because
of
other
issues
and
I'm
I'm
thankful
that
my
colleague
Council
of
Tanya
Fernandez
Anderson,
took
the
leadership
role
in
and
advocated
on
your
behalf,
because
that's
what
we
need
in
this
city
is
is
leadership
and
I.
F
Think
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
workers
that
work
hard
are
paid
adequately.
You
know,
we've
we've,
given
you
we've,
given
you
resolutions,
we've,
given
you
proclamations,
we've
been
we've,
given
you
coffee
receptions
and
pizza
parties,
and
that's
that's
fine,
but
but
that
doesn't
pay
you
bills
that
doesn't
pay
the
mortgage
that
doesn't
pay
the
rent
that
doesn't
pay
the
water
bill.
F
D
D
D
Thank
you
always
for
being
so
professional
too
from
a
year
ago,
when
you
started
coming
to
our
office,
you
know
you
have
your
folders
and
your
you
do
your
homework
and
you
make
it
very
easy
for
us
to
just
see
what
we
need
to
see
in
not
just
these
nice
folders,
but
then,
and
also
what
you're
sharing
about
your
personal
story
so
just
know
that
we're
going
to
figure
out
how
to
get
this
right.
So
thank
you,
chair.
G
You
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
I
was
in
your
position
12
years
ago,
underpaid
Administration
that
didn't
like
us
and
it's
a
pretty
difficult
position
to
be
in
when
you're,
when
you're
the
head
of
a
household
or
even
in
a
household
trying
to
contribute,
you
don't
feel
like
you're
contributing
because
your
job
simply
doesn't
pay
you
enough.
G
Oh,
but
we
can.
We
I
believe
there
are
some
things
we
can
do
now
again
we're
talking
about
the
group
here
that
the
entire
time
during
the
pandemic,
when
we
were
home
on
Zoom,
they
were
here
they
were
here.
They
were
covering
all
our
buildings,
every
one
of
them
needed
to
come
in.
We
had
Opera
recovery
money.
We
gave
across
the
hall
a
check
for
500
million
dollars
last
year,
nothing
nothing
trickled
down
to
the
to
the
to
the
workers
and
not
just
these
men
and
women.
Here,
nothing
trickled
down
to
anybody.
G
We
didn't
do
we
didn't
do
any
buyouts.
I've
been
here
I'm
in
my
36th
year
and
I've,
seen
probably
three
buyouts
where
they
they
say
to
people
that
are
close
to
retirement.
You
can
get
an
extra
three
years
on
on
your
retirement,
or
even
there
was
talk
of
the
State
House
about
even
people
that
weren't
close
to
retirement
people
that
came
in
during
the
pandemic.
That's
the
key
there,
people
that
came
in
during
the
pandemic.
How
do
we
give
them
extra
time
on
their
retirement?
G
Maybe
it
isn't
the
dollar
amount,
but
we
should
be
looking
at
buyouts.
We
should
be
looking
at
giving
extra
time
on
the
retirement.
They
should
have
gotten
bonuses
last
year
when
we
burned
through
the
500
million,
of
course,
the
500
million.
Still
there
someplace,
we
don't
have
another
shot
at
it.
That's
why
I
had
a
big
problem
last
year
when
we
gave
the
check
for
500
million.
We
don't
have
anything
now
to
say
yeah.
Well,
we
got
a
couple
hundred
million.
We
can
give
you
Kevin
the
difference.
585
000.
B
G
G
000.,
so
if
you
got
your
proposal,
yeah
the
pay
raise
and
then
it
will
cost
them
another
585
000,
you
have
50
offices
or
whatever
yeah,
that
isn't
that
much
money.
So
we
have
that
ability
now
Madam
chair
to
file
amendments
which
I
believe
I've
worked
on
one
that
will
be
part
of
part
of
the
the
the
the
budget
process.
That
I
think
we
hopefully
can
vote
on
and
and
just
say
that
we
want
to
give
this
group
the
money.
Does
anybody
know
and
the
problem
with
the
administration
not
being
here.
G
We
don't
have
any
information,
we
don't
know
what
their
what
the
Department's
overtime
was
now,
when
my
department
closed
sorry
to
talk
about
me
again,
but
when
my
department
closed
over
a
million
dollars,
this
department
here
had
a
million
and
a
half
in
overtime
and
and
I
could
never
figure
out
how
they
Justified
it.
Not
the
Municipal
Police
the
whole
department
so
kind
of
what
we
were
looking
at
with
the
police
department
moving
overtime
money
around.
G
Maybe
that's
the
opportunity
and
that's
what
I
think
my
my
my
amendment
is
reflective
of
going
after,
because
if
we
hire
more
people,
then
the
need
we
hire
more
people
and
give
them
a
better
wage
and
even
even
going
from
35
to
41
or
whatever,
whatever
whatever
we're
going
through.
You
still
need
another
job.
Do
you
have
Kevin?
So
in
your
contract,
you
have
forced
overtime.
Yes,
when
did
that
get
in
there
do
you
know.
G
It
probably
thank
you
so
anyways
I
think
there's
opportunities
for
us
to
do
here
in
in
in
on
a
on
a
larger
conversation.
I
think
we
should
be
talking
about
buyouts,
also,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
that
are
at
the
end
of
their
City
careers
one
year
two
year,
based
on
what
they
did
in
Colvin.
This
is
the
group
that
was
here
during
covert.
We
should
be
talking
about
bonuses
buyouts
and
how
do
we
get
to
this?
G
If
we
try
and
give
you
another
citation
Kevin
to
your
group,
citation
Commendation
go
like
this.
We
don't
want
it.
We
want
money,
my
brother,
when
he
was
when
he
was
working
for
a
bank
came
home.
Excited
said
to
my
father.
They're
gonna,
make
me
a
big
roll.
My
father
says
that's
great:
how
much
are
they
paying
you?
Oh
nothing!
It's
just
a!
We
don't
want
anything.
We
don't
want
to
be
called
anything,
nothing,
we
want
money,
we
want
and
need
money
and
I.
G
Think
you
have
the
people
on
the
council
that
are
prepared
to
stand
with
you
guys,
you've
been
you've.
You've
been
helpful
to
us
and
I.
Think
I
hope
that
you
have
this
Council
support
and-
and
we
now
have
through
participatory
budgeting,
we
have
a
chance
to
hopefully
get
you
some
money
with
12
years
ago.
G
I
had
some
of
the
counsel
to
to
keep
the
print
Department
open,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
manager
said
no.
That
was
it
that
isn't
the
case
in
2023.
We
do
have
some
power
here
now
and
hopefully
we
use
it
in
it
and
it's
and
it
works
you
know
being
in
the
city
for
as
long
as
everybody's
been
you
know,
nothing
happens,
quick
everything's,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
and
it
never
happens.
G
I
D
I
G
I
G
G
A
contract
yeah
so
that
should
ideally
I.
That
should
ideally
because
that
that
clawback
only
is
only
for
that
one
contract
period
I
might
have
that
wrong.
I,
don't
know,
but
no,
yes,
and
and
so
when
they're
talking
clawbacks
they're
only
talking
percentages.
What
about
grade
changes?
Did
we
talk
about
like
just
totally
change
the
grade?
Yeah.
I
G
G
Yeah
and
then
they
basically
come
and
say
all
the
other
unions
took
this
one.
You
guys
just
take
that
yeah,
that's
where
they
negotiated
in
my
building,
they
negotiated
with
me
first
and
then
then
everybody
else
took
the
deal,
took
the
deal
that
I
got.
Is
there
a
way
for
you
to
say
we
would
like
to
go
first,
we.
G
Yeah
and
again
sorry,
we
don't
have.
We
don't
have
Labor
Relations
here
we
don't
have
anybody
from
budget
here.
We
don't
you
know,
and
that
to
me
shows
you
that
this
is
some
sort
of
game
going
on,
but
it
gets
there's
a
whole
lot
of
problems.
There's
a
whole
lot
of
layers
here,
500
million
is
under
my
skin
right,
the
claw
back.
What
is
what
does
some
another
Union
have
to
do
with
you
guys
you
guys
are
on
the
pay
yeah.
So
all
right,
I've
talked
enough
and
I
didn't
make
any
points.
Sorry,
thank
you.
B
E
E
Actually
we
cannot,
we
don't
have
executive
power,
so
we
can't
tell
the
executive
branch
what
to
do
or
how
to
execute
their
work
or
especially
when
it
comes
to
collective
bargaining.
However,
we
can
increase
the
budget.
We
can
put
the
money
there
and
say
that's
not
a
problem
anymore.
There's
the
money.
E
It
sounds
like
we
have
enough
votes,
and
that
means
that
essentially
we're
a
body
of
13
counselors,
but
because
we're
missing
one
remember:
Council
block
moved
on
we're
only
12
at
the
moment,
and
so
the
code
basically
states
that
we
need
two-thirds
of
the
body
in
order
to
well.
We
need
seven
votes
in
order
to
pass
the
budget
tomorrow,
but
then
it's
two
votes.
It
goes
to
the
mayor.
She
has
a
week
tomorrow
goes
to
the
mayor.
E
E
I'm
on
record,
saying
that
I'm
going
to
support
it
as
chair
I'll
definitely
be
proposing
it
on
the
floor
tomorrow,
so
that
part
is
resolved
but
again
in
terms
of
collective
bargaining,
we're
green
to
actually
make
the
raises
that
we
have
to
leave
to
the
executive
branch,
which
is
the
administration
in
your
superiors
air.
So
look
forward
to.
E
H
Think
shamaya
Harriet,
Kevin,
Paul
and
cologne
for
for
your
presence
here
and
and
for
sharing
so
much
about
your
work
with
us
oftentimes,
and
this
is
what
leads
to
inequity.
People
are
shy
about
how
much
money
they
make.
They
don't
want
to
share.
Well,
when
that
happens,
that's
how
people
take
more
advantage
of
you
right
and
so
that's
a
push
for
pay
Equity
along
race
lines
around
gender
lines.
So
thank
you
for
coming
in
for
being
so
open
with
us
Can.
I
I
mean
from
increa
the
north
side.
Opening
to
you
know
the
the
80
million
dollar
Plaza
renovation.
You
know
we
increased
the
amount
of
yeah
Staffing
level
for
each
shift.
So
morning
we
added
on
four
offices
needed
during
the
day
four
to
midnight
shift.
We
added
on
three
offices,
staff
for
staff
and
level
in
the
three
offices
on
the
overnight.
So
when
we
were
you
know
six
months
ago,
we
might
have
only
needed
eight
offices
on
the
overnight
shift.
We
now
currently
need
about
11.
H
Okay,
so
that's
causing
some
of
the
strain
and
the
overtime
requirements
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
with
respect
to
this,
the
data
that
was
provided
here
reason
why
I
think
it's
beneficial
is
because
the
city
of
Boston
trumps,
all
of
these
other
cities
when
it
comes
to
the
cost
of
living
and
how
expensive
it
is.
So
I
think
this
data
is
telling,
for
that
reason,
we're
not
even
making
the
most
amount
of
money,
but
all
among
this
list
we
are
the
most
expensive
city.
H
So
if
there's
anything
that
we're
able
to
Garner
from
this
data,
it
is
that,
and
so
I
think
that
it
tells
us
enough-
and
it
tells
us
that
you
all
deserve
to
be
paid
more,
so
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
I
think
my
colleagues
asked
most
of
my
questions
except
if
what
is
the
relationship
between
MPS
and
the
security
systems
program
here
is.
I
Are
you
asking
like
what's
our
involvement
with
the
security
system,
so
we
oversee
you
know
we
have
access
to
the
camera
system
throughout
City,
Hall
and
various
other
buildings
throughout
the
city,
and
we
also,
you
know,
have
access
to
that.
The
security
S2
system
which
helps
you
know,
unlock
doors
and
set
things
like
that
from
you
know
just
downstairs
at
the
security
desk.
H
I
There's
a
few
Panic
buttons.
You
know
at
City
Hall
that
I
think
in
the
cons
some
of
the
council's
office
that
goes
straight
to
the
security
desk
downstairs
so
yeah.
You
know
in
in
this
initial
emergency,
where
we're
receiving
the
first
call-
and
you
know
managing
it
from
from
that
point
on
whether
it's
to
call
for
help
with
Boston
police.
You
know
and
also
assigning
offices,
to
go
check
on.
I
H
Okay,
well,
I
want
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
worth
of
treaty
for
the
city
for
supporting
all
of
us.
If
you
say
that
we're
a
Union
City,
we
support
our
unions.
We
need
to
support
you
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
and
I
stayed
with
my
colleagues
and
support.
I
want
to
say
Messi
on
being
to
all
of
my
MPS
officers,
who
are
Haitian,
who
are
always
greeting
me
with
words
from
the
island,
so
I
miss
you.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
Council
Louis,
Jen
and
I.
Just
have
a
few
questions
and
I
just
want
to
also
just
say,
like
some
of
the
municipal
offices,
I
grew
up
with
a
few
of
them
in
the
crowd.
So
this
is
definitely
you
know
important
to
me
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
making
an
impact.
You
know
not
only
in
the
lives
of
everyone
here
in
the
city
of
Boston.
One
of
my
questions
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
idea
of
creating
this
resolution.
B
I
know
we're
talking
about
pay
a
lot
here,
but
in
terms
of
benefits
and
I
know,
you
brought
this
up
a
little
bit.
Kevin
is
you
know
one
of
the
benefits
that
you
would
like
to
see,
maybe
like
tuition
reimbursement,
because
that's
what
one
of
the
young,
ladies,
you
said,
left
because
you
know
the
lack
of
benefits
that
this
job
offered.
What
are
some
other
benefits
that
you
would
love
to
see?
You
know
come
with
the
job.
I
You
know
collectively,
as
a
group
I
think
one
of
the
you
know
our
biggest
concern
is
to
pay
I
and
I
know
what
you're
asking
and-
and
you
know
for
myself
personally,
you
know
I
decided
a
few
years
ago
that
I
wanted
just
like
Harriet's
thinking
like
I
I
want
to
do
something
more.
This,
the
the
salary
we
have
here
is
not
enough.
I
It
would
be
very
helpful
if
there
was
any
you
know
and
I
think
it
goes
to
show
like
the
work
that
we've
done
by
providing
some
of
these
stats
and
progress
in
this
argument
of
more
pay.
Is
you
know
totally
because
of
my
pursuit
in
my
educational,
Endeavors
and
I?
Think
you
know
if
we
were
able
to
offer
that
some
benefit
like
that
to
everyone.
It
would
just
help
progress.
The
city
as
a
whole,
never
mind.
I
Just
our
department
and
give
people
the
opportunity
you
know
to
learn,
you
know,
I
was
never
someone
who
who
enjoyed
school.
I
was
always
an
athlete
and-
and
you
know
when
I
decided
to
go
back
to
school
four
years
ago.
I
wouldn't
never
have
thought
I
would
still
be
in
school
till
this
day,
but
other
than
like
educational,
like
I
know
we
would
enjoy.
You
know
more
training,
opportunities
and
stuff,
but
for
us
to
answer
like
exact
benefits,
we
would
love
like
to
have.
I
B
E
E
If
I,
if
I
care
about
you,
this
means
I
respect
you
and
if
I
respect
you
I
pay
you
and
that's
not
for
me,
but
I
mean
just
in
general
and
I
feel
like
people
should
be
paid
when
you're
saying
that
you
respect
them
and
I
agree
with
Council
Baker
one
more
citation,
I
think
I
want
to
vomit,
so
I
think
I
will
be
moving.
Definitely
looking
into
the
resolution.
E
Thank
you,
chair
for
your
recommendations
to
recommending
some
incentives
and
tuition
reimbursement,
I
got
some
trainings
other
types
of
I,
don't
know
Pathway
to
maybe
savings,
or
we
could
look
at
other
departments
or
other
unions
and
what
incentives
they're
offered
bring.
We
could
provide
that
in
the
OR
stipulate
that
in
the
resolution
again,
it's
a
resolution
to
acknowledge
and
to
say
that
we
are
going
on
record
and
support
of
such
things.
E
So,
looking
forward
to
filing
that
late
and
hopefully
councilor
president
Flynn
will
take
it
out
of
order
and
I
leave
that
to
his
discretion.
But
in
terms
of
the
amendment
tomorrow,
I
will
definitely
put
Council
Baker's
Amendment
on
the
floor.
As
you
can
see
here,
there
are
at
least
five
or
six
of
us
who
are
in
support
of
this
amendment.
As
a
chair
with
my
I'll
use,
my
discretion
and
I'll
definitely
put
on
the
floor.
E
I'll
just
have
to
calculate
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
over
600
000,
obviously,
until
tomorrow
look
forward
to
that
to
our
vote
and
then,
after
that,
it's
for
you
to
Advocate
continue
to
lobbyists
so
that
we
can
override
The
veto.
If
one
should
come
our
Direction
and
we
will
need
eight
votes
to
do
that
other
than
that
I'm
I'm,
very
proud
of
you,
Kevin
and
Mr.
E
F
I
think
this
issue
is
about
respect
and
dignity
and
justice
in
this
body
often
goes
around
to
the
city
to
various
neighborhoods.
I
was
at
an
event
today,
speaking
in
favor
of
workers,
rights
for
postal
workers,
as
with
Council
of
Murphy
and
Council
Louisiana,
we
recently
at
an
event
with
the
Greater
Boston
labor
Council
in
Dorchester
for
other
workers
as
well,
including
including
medical
professionals.
Recently.
F
But
you
are,
you
are
here
asking
for
this,
that
same
level
of
respect
that
same
level
of
dignity,
you're
asking
for
justice,
and
you
have
you
have
fellow
city
workers
that
we
see
every
day.
How
could
we
possibly
pass
you
every
day
and
you
ever
you're
willing
to
put
your
life
in
the
line
every
day
for
us,
and
we
not
acknowledge
that?
We
not
think
about
that
you're
doing
everything
you
you
need
to
do.
F
Making
the
residents
in
the
visitors
safe
in
this
building
and
the
only
thing
you're
asking
for
is,
is
respect
and
I.
Think
you
came
to
the
right
place,
seeking
respect
and
I
think
this
is.
The
job
of
the
of
this
body
is
to
stand
up
for
people
for
workers
and
I.
Think
that's
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do.
Maybe
maybe
it
gets
done
this
week.
Maybe
it
doesn't,
but
I
think
I
can
speak
on
behalf
of
all
of
my
colleagues
in
saying
we're
not
going
anywhere
and
we're
with
you
100
percent.
D
So
thank
you
again,
and
hopefully
it
will
pass
this
week,
if
not
we're
going
to
stay
at
it,
because
this
is
something
I
know
that
sometimes
in
the
news
or
when
people
watch,
they
don't
think
we
always
agree.
But
I
do
love
when
we
can
get
behind
something
together.
As
a
body,
it
shows
what
we
really
do
stand
for
and
what
we
most,
if
not
all,
of
us,
value
that
we're
here
to
help
people,
especially
our
colleagues,
because
I
consider
all
of
you
a
colleague.
So
thank
you
for
everything.
Thank
you
chair
thank.
G
I
Yeah
so
I
don't
have
the
exact,
like
exact
number
of
like
what
property
management
wants,
but
I
know
we've
always
tried
to
get
to
about
65
to
set
like
we
probably
need
about
72
offices
to
be
fully
staffed,
but
that
number
changes
frequently
from
you
know,
I
mean
just
about
a
month
ago.
We
got
a
a
something
added
on
like
we're:
we're
now
working
24
7
at
China
trade,
so
the
amount
of
offices
we
need
is.
I
We
were
there,
but
they
added
the
The
Vocational
officer
on
the
overnight.
So
like
situations
like
that
happen,
often,
you
know
I
know,
there's
a
huge
investment
going
into
Property
Management,
where
they
transition
into
take
over
the
bcyf
buildings
and
stuff,
so
I
think
there'll
be
more
opportunities,
for
you
know:
amount
of
offices
to
grow
so.
C
I
I
Like
you
know,
you
know
we
we
weren't
in
Collective,
but
we're
not
in
Collective
bug,
you
know.
So
what
we
were
going
over
is
the
the
wage
study.
So
from
you
know,
one
of
our
Pro
from
our
proposal
to
what
the
city
originally
proposed
was
so
off.
We
we
could
never
agree
to
it.
You
know
someone
asked
you
know
if
we
were
able
to
split
the
difference.
Oh.
G
I
G
I
G
I
Absolutely
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
things
and
like
I
said
earlier
is
like
we
take
advantage
of
every
opportunity
we're
given
especially
training
opportunities.
We
have
you
know,
offices
who
have
been
here
for
30
years
to
you
know
someone
who's
been
there
six
months
with
the
police,
Reform
Bill
there
just
hasn't
been
someone
able
to
take
on
the
work
so
to
say
to
figure
out
the
the
approach
to
how
many
hours
are
needed
by
so,
and
so
you
know
the
the
years
of
service
can
help
count
towards
certification.
I
G
You
guys
come
across,
and
this
is
my
last
I'm
about
done
here.
Mr
chair,
have
you
guys
come
across
any
situations
where
you
you've
had
to
restrain
people,
and
are
you
not
so
like?
What
do
you
do?
Someone
obviously
needs
to
be
restrained.
You
could
get
in
trouble
if
you're
going
to
restrain
them
yeah.
So
what
like,
what
you
just
run
me
through
your
decision
making?
What
do
you
do?
Hey
get
off
that
person
shop,
kicking
that
kid
in
the
head,
yeah.
I
I
You
know
I
think
some
of
our
protection,
some
of
rights
might
have
been
been,
has
changed
because
of
the
police
reform.
But
you
know
our
the
expectation
of
what
we
do
has
not
changed,
and
you
know
we
don't
approach
the
job
differently
as
much
as
we
probably
should,
because
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
just
here
to
help
and
try
to
protect
so
yeah
I.
Think
if
anything.
K
G
K
You
yeah
and
it's
definitely
difficult.
It's
definitely
difficult,
but
you
know
I
attribute
this
to
everyone
here
on
this
panel,
the
people
sitting
behind
me
that
come
in
here
every
single
day
and
are
expected
to
perform
their
duties
and
they
do
that
on
a
daily
basis
and
as
a
supervisor
I
think
that's
all
we
can
ask
for,
and
you
know
it's
it's,
you
know
it
means
a
lot
to
stand
by.
You
know
the
men
and
women
of
this
department
daily,
and
this
is
why
we're
doing
it.
K
H
K
And
appreciate
everyone
that
has
stepped
up
today.
It's
not
like
I,
believe
Council
Fernandez
and
said
it's
not
the
not
the
easiest
thing
to
do
so.
I,
I
credit.
All
these
people
here
sitting
to
the
right
of
me
immensely
and
people
that
came
here
on
their
day
off
and
you
know
just
just
means
a
lot
but
I
appreciate
it.
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
G
Yeah
well
I'm
I'm,
on
my
way
out
the
door
myself
I'm
finishing
up
my
last
term
and
I'm
I'm
being
asked.
You
know
best
and
worse
sort
of
thing.
If
we're
able
to
get
you
guys
up
and-
and
this
is
because
I
negotiated
with
them,
I
negotiated
with
these
departments.
I
know
how
it
went
if
we're
able
to
get
this
raise
for
you.
This
would
be
one
of
one
of
something
that
that
all
of
us,
but
myself
on
the
way
out
the
door
will
be
will
be
proud
of.
G
B
B
You
guys,
you
know
we,
we
love
you
guys
and
we're
here
fighting
for
you
guys
and
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
out
your
day
to
Advocate,
because
this
is
what
advocacy
looks
like
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
taking
that
vote
on
on
the
amendment
in
the
resolution.
So
thank
you
again
in
this
meeting
is
adjourned.