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Civil Rights & Immigrant Advancement Hearing- Dockets #0928-A hearing regarding the federal court order to pass a new Council district map. #0930- Message and ordinance amending City Council electoral districts. #0935- Documents regarding redistricting litigation. #0936- Documents regarding minutes of the Committee on Redistricting and messages of disapproval. #0937- Documents regarding redistricting archival records. #0941- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts. #0942- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts. #0959- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts.
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B
It
is
May
23rd,
2023,
2
P.M,
for
the
record.
My
name
is
luigien
City
councilor
at
large
and
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
civil
rights
and
immigrant
advancement
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues
today,
I
am
joined
by
Aaron
Murphy
at
large
Vice,
chair
of
this
committee
council
president
Ed
Flynn
District
2.,
counselor,
Frank,
Baker,
District,
three
counselor
at
large,
Michael,
Flaherty
and
I.
Believe
that
is
everyone
for
right
now.
B
This
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov,
Forge,
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8
RCN
channel
82
FiOS
channel
964.
rain
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.civilrights
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public.
Testimony
will
be
taken
during
this
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
here
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
in
at
the
sheet
near
the
door.
B
If
you
are
looking
to
testify
virtually
please
email,
Shane
pack
at
Shane
dot
pack
boston.gov
for
the
link.
Your
name
will
be
added
to
the
list
again,
that
is
Shane
s-h-a-n-e
dot.
Pack,
p-a-c
boston.gov
for
the
link
and
your
name
will
be
added
to
the
list.
Again,
you
are
welcome
to
submit
written
testimony.
You
are
welcome
to
submit
video
testimony
and
all
of
that
will
be
added
to
the
record.
B
We,
the
clock,
is
ticking
and
we
need
to
vote
on
a
map.
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
being
for
their
willingness
to
participate
and
to
help
us
get
to
a
new
map.
As
a
chair
of
civil
rights,
I
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we
are
putting
voters
first
in
all
that
we
do,
and
our
work
here
has
been
doing
just
that,
and
so
yesterday
we
left
off
on
a
map
that
is
currently.
C
Up
the
link
here,
District
district
r.org
forward
slash
plan,
four
slash,
one,
eight
five,
four
three
six
is.
B
Where
we
left
off
yesterday,
I
want
to
thank
again
Central
staff
for
how
accommodating
they've
been
for
this
last
two
weeks
of
a
Juggle
of
trying
to
get
things
scheduled
and
to
members
of
the
public.
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
to
see
if
they
have
any
openings
remarks,
counselor
at
large,
Aaron
Murphy.
You
have
the
floor.
D
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Murphy
council
president
Flynn.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
the
vice
chair.
My
fellow
council
is
Central
staff
members
of
the
public,
both
here
and
at
home,
watching
this
hearing
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson
for
accommodating
this
and
rescheduling
the
ways
and
means
hearing.
As
we
worked
in
the
past
few
days
on
a
new
redistricting
map,
I
want
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
cooperation,
compromise
and
respect.
It's
critical
that
we
put
all
politics
aside
and
work
together.
E
The
redistricting
process
is
one
that
will
require
compromise
from
all
of
us,
and
none
of
us
will
get
everything
that
we
want,
but
we
have
to.
We
have
to
work
with
each
other
and
respect
each
other.
Now
is
the
time
to
put
aside
differences
and
come
together
to
show
positive
leadership
for
the
residents
of
Boston.
We
have
seen
compromise,
give
and
take
during
this
process
already.
It
is
possible
to
come
up
with
a
map
that
we
can
all
agree
on.
That
will
address
the
issues
listed
in
the
court
decision.
E
B
You
Mr
President,
going
on
to
councilor
Baker.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
my
apologies
for
my
absence
yesterday,
a
great
day,
obviously
for
the
flowery
frame
of
my
twins
graduating
from
college
this
weekend,
but
I
was
not
able
to
participate
in
yesterday's
hearing,
but
obviously
I'm
well
versed
on
all
the
matters
to
get
some
feedback
yesterday.
G
Just
for
your
ratification,
as
the
chair
I
happen
to
bump
into
some
folks
that
live
in
Wood,
20,
Precinct
8
at
the
graduation
ceremony,
and
they
had
some
serious
concerns
that
they
would
be
being
shifted
from
I,
think
D5
to
D6
and
and
one
of
the
individuals
had
informed
me
of
that.
G
The
precinct
wood
20
Precinct
date
is
also
the
home
Precinct
of
the
Suffolk
County
district
attorney
and
in
light
of
sort
of
what
had
happened
last
week.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
body
doesn't
do
anything
any
additional
to
to
that
Precinct,
but,
more
importantly,
to
the
Suffolk
County
district
attorney.
G
So
I
just
want
that
on
the
radar
for
folks
as
we're
looking
at
these
precincts
and
where
they're
moving
and
why
they're
moving
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
the
council
president
alluded
to
making
sure
that
there's
no
sort
of
political
agendas
and
any
any
sort
of
political
nefariousness
at
play
to
move
28
out
of
D5
into
D6
as
some
form
of
payback
or
retribution.
G
So
that's
a
and
then
lastly,
at
some
point
whatever
we
decided
to
do
before
we
vote
I
just
want
to
again
through
the
chair,
make
a
suggestion
that
we
contact
through
our
Council
to
let
them
notify
plaintiff's
council
before
we
make
any
final
sort
of
before.
We
take
a
final
vote
just
to
make
sure
that
the
plaintiffs
have
been
consulted
through
defense
counsel,
Corporation
Council
and
the
two
firms
that
were
representing
us
on
the
matter.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
B
You
Council,
Flaherty
and
I
want
to
thank
all
my
colleagues
again.
We
are
here
to
respond
to
the
federal
court
order
and
draw
a
new
map.
We
are
getting
closer
and
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
We
are
going
to
turn
it
now
to
public
testimony
I'm
going
to
start
with
those
who
are
on
Zoom.
First.
B
Oh
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
referred
to.
B
So
for
the
record,
we
have
been
joined
by
counselor
Ricardo
Arroyo
for
District
5
from
District
Five
councilor
Kendra
Lara
from
District
Six
and
counselor
Brian
Worrell
of
District
Four.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
make
an
opening
statement.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
gives
me
concern
about
where
we
are
currently
is,
we
haven't
had
the
time
to
do
a
racialized
voting
pattern.
Study
on
these
Maps
in
the
numbers
on
these
Macs
are
pretty
clear
that
there
are
some
racialized
voting
patterns,
Within
These
districts,
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
lifted
up
and
I
will
continue
to
lift
up.
H
Is
that
the
dilution
of
the
vote
of
Mattapan
in
District
5
is
something
that
I
as
a
counselor
can't
abide
it's
a
neighborhood
of
Interest,
a
community
of
interest
about
70
in
the
district,
and
when
we
are
talking
about
racialized
voting
patterns,
for
instance,
we
have
a
situation
here
where
in
1414,
regardless
of
and
I
just
want
to
say
really
quickly.
That
I
will
save
most
of
this,
because
this
is
opening
and
I
want
to.
H
Let
Community
comment
happen,
but
if
Madam
chair
will
allow
me
to
come
back
to
a
more
a
more
specific
conversation
about
racialized
voting
patterns,
that
would
probably
be
more
appropriate
than
me
using
the
opening
to
do
that,
and
so
I
would
just
reserve
the
ability
to
address
raise
size
voting
patterns
as
IT
addresses,
14,
14,
28
and
other
precincts,
or
the
district
as
a
whole
under
the
current
map
at
a
later
time,
so
that
we
can
go
straight
to
community
comment.
If
we
have
folks
who
are
here
for
that.
Thank.
B
You
Council
letter
you
not
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
glad
that
I
arrived
in
time
to
make
a
statement
about
counselor,
flory's
conspiracy
theory
about
why
we're
moving
28.
I
am
one
curious
as
to
what
information
I
would
have.
What
that
matters
to
me
where
D.A
Kevin,
Hayden
lives
and
two,
why
the
West,
Roxbury,
neighborhood,
Council
World
care,
or
how
that
impacts
that
all
unifying
West
Roxbury,
and
so
if
we
want
to
have
a
conversation
here
that
is
one
civilized,
but
also
one
that
is
based
on
fact.
I
Then
I
ask
that
we
keep
it
like
that,
because
again
we're
talking
about
unifying
a
community
of
Interest
here
we're
talking
about
making
a
change.
That's
in
alignment
with
the
judge's
ruling
councilority.
You
yourself
funded
the
lawsuit
that
gave
us
the
instructions
that
we
have
now.
So,
let's
stick
to
them
and
let's
follow
them
so
that
we
don't
end
up
in
court
again.
Thank
you.
B
J
You
chair,
thank
you,
colleagues,
looking
forward
to
diving
into
the
conversation,
and
you
know
we
want
to
talk
about
conspiracy
theories
I'm,
seeing
a
lot
at
play
and
I'm
happy
that
to
know
that
our
constituents
are
paying
attention
to
us
and
how
we
move
or
don't
move
or
who
we're
moving
with
and
how
all
of
that
looks
because
there's
a
lot
to
be
questioned
here
today,
I'm
looking
forward
to
observing
the
work
that
gets
done
in
this
chamber.
Thank.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
guess
just
for
clarification.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
is
this
a
hearing
or
working
session
of
both
today.
B
It's
both
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we
were
on
a
tight
timeline,
and
so
it's
styled
as
a
public
hearing,
but
also
a
working
session,
so
that
we
can
work
and
also
so
that
we
can
hear
from
members
of
the
public.
K
B
K
Okay
and
and
I,
thank
you
for
that.
If
you
disagree
with
the
suggestion,
will
you
allow,
in
a
working
session
format
to
move
pieces
so
for
clarification
for
questions
or
to
adjust
pieces
in
order
for
us
to
work
collaboratively
and
get
to
a
result,
working.
B
L
No
Madam
chair,
thank
you
happy
to
join
the
conversation.
B
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
think
we
left
off
at
a
good
place
right
now.
We
see
that
all
the
districts
are
within
population,
so
I
like
where
we're
headed
and
it
doesn't
doesn't
look
like
we're
too
far
off
on
a
map
so
looking
forward
to
the
public
testimony
get
into
this
working
session.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
Council
around.
If
we
can
now
turn
to
public
testimony,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
Public's
voice
is
heard.
We
have
folks
signing
up
for
public
testimony
and
we
have
folks
signed
up
for
in-person
Testimony,
we'll
start
with
those
who
are
here
virtually
first
I
believe
first
on
the
list
is
Rachel
paulner.
N
Thank
you.
I'm
I
live
in
West
Roxbury
near
the
board
of
Roslindale
Ward
20
Precinct
11
near
Precinct,
8.
I'm,
a
leader
of
progressive
West,
Roxbury,
Roslindale
I,
sent
written
testimony
yesterday.
Those
comments
still
stand
and
I
hope.
You'll
read
them,
but
after
watching
yesterday's
hearing
I
had
to
testify
again,
I
was
I
felt
so
ashamed
for
our
city,
white
counselors
requests
were
Incorporated,
counselors
of
colors
requests
were
ignored
and
counselor
Fernandez
Anderson
restated
her
request
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
quoting
a
white
person
as
supportive
of
her
request.
N
N
They
said
they've
been
pressed
to
ask
that
Ward
20
precinct
1
or
Precinct
8,
depending
on
the
person
be
in
District
Five.
Isn't
it
a
good
thing
to
you
to
unify
Roslindale?
My
answer
sure
it
is
if
that
were
possible,
there
is
no
map
that
unifies
Roslindale
by
advocating
for
Precinct
one
or
eight
to
be
in
D5.
You
are
asking
to
shift
D5
a
bit
Westward
to
be
a
bit
wider,
a
bit
wealthier,
well,
precinct,
1
and
8
have
been
added
to
D5
the
areas
around
Hyde,
Park,
Ave
and
Cummins
highway,
but
moved
out.
N
Is
that
what
you
wanted?
No,
they
said,
of
course,
not
I
wasn't
told
there
were
other
impacts.
That
is
what
happens
when
changes
are
made
quickly
without
community
outreach
and
education
pitting
neighborhoods
against
each
other.
In
this
case,
Western
Roslindale
residents
have
been
used
as
pawns
against
Northern
Roslindale
residents
and
against
Mattapan
residents,
as
I
wrote
in
testimony
yesterday,
precincts
one
and
eight
have
loads
of
policy
issues
in
common
with
their
neighboring
precincts.
N
In
D6,
though
we
know,
West
Roxbury
does
not
have
roslindale's
welcoming
creative
atmosphere,
yet
at
least
some
of
us
are
working
on
that
with
more
neighborhoods
and
council
districts.
It
simply
will
not
be
that
all
neighborhoods
get
unified
in
the
next
go-round
I,
for
one
would
be
happy
to
discuss
whole
new
configurations
that
share
the
lack
of
unity
more
fairly,
since
population
was
already
balanced
in
our
area.
Please
return
D5
and
D6
to
the
enacted
map
array
then
place
your
return,
your
focus
back
to
the
issue
the
judge
raised
and
as
restrained
away
as
possible.
N
It
just
isn't
fair
to
do
other
changes
without
more
lengthy
Community
involvement.
This
task
should
not
be
used
to
misrepresent
choices
and
polarize
people
counselor
Flaherty's
Point,
unless
D.A
Hayden
runs
for
city
council.
What
Precinct
he
lives
in
is
irrelevant.
Isn't
it
mentioning
him?
Adds
politics
exactly
as
counselor
Flaherty
asks
that
others
not
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
Okay,
give
me
one
second
I'm
gonna
come
on
screen,
my
dear
okay,
great
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
chairman
chairwoman,
Louisiana
to
all
assembled
here
today:
I'm
Cheryl,
Clyburn,
Carfin,
I
use
the
she
serious
I
am
the
executive
director
of
mass
vote,
a
Statewide
voting
rights
and
issue
advocacy
organization,
I
and
my
family
are
lifelong
residents
of
Boston.
I
am
currently
live
in
District
Four
I
offer
testimony
today
that
I
hope
will
ensure
Equitable
representation
for
all
of
Boston
voters,
especially
our
historically
disenfranchised
communities,
in
particular
our
opportunity
districts.
O
I
think
we
need
to
revisit
what
opportunity
districts
are
and
the
standard
definition
is
a
district
that
gives
people
of
color
an
opportunity
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice,
and
we
did
that
10
years
ago,
with
District
Five
in
a
city
that
is
majority
people
of
color.
This
should
not
still
be
an
issue
instead
of
destroying
what
was
created
10
years
ago
regressing
we
should
be
building
upon
it.
Instead,
we
find
ourselves
fighting
to
keep
what
we
had
ten
years
ago.
O
The
council
in
D4
did
not
want
to
make
the
changes,
but
who
would
want
to
give
up?
Perceive
power
and,
as
was
said
earlier
on
today,
no
one
is
going
to
get
all
that
they
want,
and
no
one
should.
All
we
are
saying
is:
please
share
the
pie.
This
is
not
about
who
is
already
in
the
sea,
but
what
makes
sense
as
a
whole.
This
process
should
be
based
on
traditional
redistricting
principles
like
population
balancing
and
when
possible,
creating
opportunity,
districts,
not
destroying
them.
O
Neighborhood
unification
as
much
as
possible
I
believe
Madison
would
be
better
served
to
have
two
District
councilors
representing
them
the
changes
proposed.
You
know
we
spent
some
time
looking
at.
How
could
we
make
this
possible
for
all
of
us
and
the
changes
that
will
be?
You
will
see
as
we
propose
our
findings.
It's
a
current
working.
You
know
the
changes
that
the
counselor
made
on
this
working
map
will
allow
communities
of
colors
to
stay
together
without
destroying
the
efforts
that
we
have
made
over
the
last
two
redistricting
Cycles,
the
most
egregious
change.
O
The
working
map
is
attempting
to
make
is
to
remove
1414
out
of
District
Five.
It
was
with
Precision
10
years
ago
that
this
opportunity
was
created
and
our
Grassroots
organizations
rallied
together
to
support
the
city
councilors
in
creating
such
an
opportunity
District
in
D5,
as
well
as
providing
opportunities
for
economic
empowerment.
We
know
that
there
is
a
preliminary
election
scheduled
and
we
are
trying
to
adhere
to
the
timeline.
However,
we
cannot
afford
to
rush
a
process
that
will
be
in
effect
for
at
least
the
next
10
years.
O
The
Coalition
suggestions
will
balance
the
population
between
districts
and
keep
communities
of
Interest
together.
These
suggestions
also
make
changes
in
as
few
precincts
as
possible
from
2022
enacted
map.
We
at
Mass
vote
urged
the
council
to
adopt
the
proposed
changes,
starting
with
keeping
14-14
in
District
5..
We
know
this
is
incredibly
hard.
Work
and
I
want
to
thank
our
city
councilors
for
their
considerations.
Thank
you.
B
P
P
So
it
will
be
absolutely
unfair
to
have
other
consoles
from
other
District
to
drive,
try
to
dissect
or
divide
distribute,
as
you
guys
can
remember.
During
covet,
there
were
several
candidates
that
went
to
SJC
to
ask
to
reduce
the
signatures
because
of
the
pandemic.
They
were
candidates
and
they
were
heard
their
rights
were
heard
and
we
as
the
candidates
in
District
eight.
It
doesn't
seem
like
we
were
heard
yesterday
and
we
do
have.
P
The
legal
right
still
go
back
to
the
same
judge,
to
ask
that,
since
there
is
no
representation
in
District
8
to
leave
District
8
alone.
Until
there
is
someone
advocating
and
representing
District
8.
in
order
to
be
able
to
make
a
proper
and
fair
equal
decision,
nobody
should
be
making
that
decision.
When
there
is
nobody
to
defend
the
district
8.
P
and
because
of
that,
I
am
still
respectfully
asking
the
councils
to
not
move
any
part
of
District
8
from
District
8,
especially
Mission
Hill,
which
is
a
historical
area,
the
idea
of
moving
it,
because
you
know
it
fits
the
type
of
people
that
are
there.
That
is
not
what
I
heard
from
those
constituents
Hill
as
well.
P
P
Not
they
want
to
be
moved
to
District
Seven,
get
yourself
and
got
enough
people.
They
got
represent
representative.
It
should
not
be
moved
in
there.
I
am
for
progression,
I
am
for
built
tearing
down
the
wall,
like
the
other
lady
said,
give
that
piece
of
pie.
Everyone
should
have
the
right
to
see
that
green
grass
ask
him
to
bring
minority
people
do
with
minority.
That's
exactly
the
definition
of
segregation.
P
That's
exactly
the
definition
of
racial
staring
and
I'm
a
person
of
color
myself,
a
black
woman
and
I
am
to
give
opportunity
so
that
people
can
have
that
piece
of
pie.
I
want
to
be
able
to
see
a
person
of
color
to
to
to
sit
on
the
grass
of
the
reflection,
water
and
Prudential
I
want
to
see
a
person
of
color
to
be
able
to
sit
in
Boston
Garden
without
feeling
like
they
don't
belong
there
and
the
idea
of
cutting
them.
P
If
you
guys
don't
want
to
consider
these
candidate,
including
me
on
what
we're
saying,
then
we
will
be
left
with
no
choice
but
to
go
back
to
that
same
federal,
judge
and
ask
for
preliminary
injunction
to
spay
District
8
until
we
have
someone
to
represent
it.
That
is
exactly
not
what
we
want
right
now.
P
B
P
B
P
B
To
say
thank
you
Casey
and
just
to
clarify
the
record.
Yesterday's
map,
Mission
Hill,
was
not
moved
out
of
d8
and
this
map
that
we're
still
looking
at
Mission
Hill
is
still
in
d8
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
the
record.
Thank
you
Casey.
Thank
you.
Next
up
we
have
Fatima
Ali
Salaam.
Q
Thank
you
very
much
Gerald
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Salam
I'm
the
chair
for
the
Great
American
neighborhood,
Council
I'm,
also
in
most
of
my
life,
has
been
spent
living
in
that
opinion.
I
grew
up
here.
Parents
live
here
still
and
my
husband
and
I
raised
both
of
our
children
here
and
we
were
mean
here.
One
of
the
reasons
I
thought
that
it
was
important
to
testify
today
is
that
over
the
weekend
and
including
Monday
I've
seen
both
so
many
calls
and
emails
from
residents
on
a
couple
of
different
topics.
Q
One
most
were
surprised
that
Mattapan
is
getting
so
much
attention
in
this
redistrative
process.
They
thought
that
it
was
exclusively
around
districts,
two
and
three
and
maybe
part
four,
but
not
that
the
whole
city,
all
of
the
districts,
were
being
moved
there.
They
were
concerned
that
there
were
changes
happening
along
the
different
Gateway
areas,
beginning
from
American,
squared
building
all
the
way
up.
They
saw
what
I
saw
already
that
they
were
surprised
that
there
was
any
discussion
around
they're
moving
from
District
Five
to
four
or
in
some
cases,
vice
versa.
Q
In
particular,
I
got
calls
and
emails.
Those
who
live
in
District,
increasing,
1414
and
part
of
the
area
regarding
clarkwood
Street,
which
is
actually
a
D5
area,
is
part
of
1414
parts
of
Morton
Street
to
what
the
one
that
is
closer
to
Blue
Hill
Avenue,
going
up
and
also
near
Flames
area,
the
Flames
restaurant
area.
Q
So
people
were
surprised
and
from,
but
the
majority
of
people
I
must
say
they
prefer
that
Mattapan
has
two
districts,
not
they're,
not
sure
exactly
where
everything
will
land
and
they
understand
that
nothing
is
perfect
and
they
don't
want
to.
They
don't
expect
to
land
that
way,
but
they
for
most
part
people
do
respect
the
current
boundaries
as
they
are
the
and
they're
recently
the
voting.
Q
Whoever
is
inside
those
seats
knew
that
at
the
voting
tables
during
the
primary
and
the
final
election
with
that
said,
one
of
the
things
that
as
someone
who
has
been
the
last
four
years,
walking
my
neighborhood
during
the
pandemic,
especially
and
getting
to
know
so
many
residents
I,
do
want
to
emphasize
that
most
people
come
to
find
out.
Mattapan
is
a
very
diverse
neighborhood.
Q
You
have
at
least
I've
got
at
least
eight
different
languages
spoken
here.
There
are,
and
seven
or
eight
different
nationalities
that
are
growing
here.
There
are
many
types
of
businesses
that
people
have,
and
it
seems
really
interesting.
Economic
Development
happening
if
Matt
handle,
of
course
is
part
of
the
city
of
Boston,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
striving
to
is
to
receive
Equitable
public
services
and
representation
both
at
the
city,
level,
state
and
federal,
we'll
be
closing.
Q
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
emails
that
I've
been
getting
and
calls,
especially
when
you
look
around
areas
which
have
been
under
a
discussion
of
racing
1414
in
regards
to
areas
of
Wellington
Hill
area,
including
clarkwood
streets
and
part
of
Milford,
also
Hosmer,
Street
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
getting
so
specific,
but
it
is
getting
very
specific.
Q
So,
in
closing,
if
people
would
please
get
that
into
consideration,
I
do
listen
to
when
residents
directly
call
me
and
ask
me
to
express
their
desires.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
Fatima.
Next
up
we
have
Pastor
Jeff
or
Florissant.
R
Sorry
for
my
litmus
is
trying
to
connect
with
my
phone.
Thank
you
so
much
chairwoman.
I
hope
that
you
can
hear
me.
R
Thank
you
so
much
chairman
gentleman
region
and
good
afternoon
to
you
all
the
city
council.
My
name
is
Reverend
Drew
for
Regice,
commonly
name
known
by
Pastor
akiki
with
the
Haitian
Community
executive
director
of
True
Alliance
Center
and
I
would
like
to
bring
my
testimony
in
support
of
this
Democratic
receiving
process.
That
is
basically
a
very
crucial
for
the
Haitian
Community
I've
received
a
lot
of
call
from
many
of
them
asking
me
what
will
happen,
especially
you
know,
marapen
and
Dorchester.
R
Basically,
we
have
a
large
Haitian
population
there
and
so
they're
asking
questions.
R
Where
do
they
fit
within
all
the
discussions,
whether
we
assure
them
that
we
support
the
leadership
of
our
Consular
at
large
and
region
to
understand
and
to
work
with
all
the
City
councilors
just
to
making
sure
that
we
Haitian
Community
does
not
split,
because
that
would
definitely
create
a
just
a
nightmare,
basically
for
many
families,
so
I
totally
understand
how
critical
this
Democratic
process
is
is
to
building
project
power
for
communities
that
have
been
historically
marginalized,
I
believe
that's.
R
R
The
Asian
Community
will
not
want
to
see
any
splitting
among
Mattapan
and
so
in
Dorchester,
because
that
that
will
definitely
disenvanchise
the
communities
and
would
not
give
basically
opportunities
for
them
to
have
someone
of
their
communities
to
be
elected.
So
we
understand
that
the
city
council
is
as
close
right
now
to
a
map
that
will
achieve
the
best.
I
would
come
for
all
bostonians
to
keep
communities
of
Interest
together
and
preserve
the
power
to
elect
a
candidates
of
the
choice.
R
So
therefore,
I
will
definitely
urge
the
city
councilors
to
come
up
with
a
compromise,
to
making
sure
that
the
community
of
Interest
are
being
represented
and
and
also
they'll,
be
able
to
remain
and
leave
in
Tech
communities
and
to
know
exactly
what
is
at
stake
for
them
and
they
can
participate
in
this
Democratic
process.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me.
S
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon.
Everyone.
My
name
is
Jacob
love
and
I'm,
a
Staff
attorney
at
lawyers
for
civil
rights
in
Boston.
As
I
stated
before
this
body
last
Friday
I
represent
a
coalition
of
community
groups
that
seek
to
ensure
Equitable
representation
for
all
of
Boston's
voters,
especially
historically
disenfranchised
communities
that
Coalition
has
filed
a
motion
in
the
ongoing
federal
court
case
seeking
to
intervene
as
full
parties
and
emphasize
important
Voting
Rights
Act
issues.
S
The
inter
intravener
Coalition
today
is
proposing
five
precinct
changes
from
the
council's
current
working
map.
I
want
to
make
two
important
points
about
those
changes.
First,
as
others
in
my
Coalition
will
discuss
in
more
detail.
Our
proposed
changes,
including
include
moving
one
of
the
so-called
boot
precincts
1713
from
District
3
to
District
4..
The
Court's
order
decidedly
allows
such
a
change
and
in
joining
the
prior
map,
the
court
took
issue
with
the
process
that
led
to
the
map's
Precinct
configuration.
S
It
did
not
invalidate
the
configuration
itself.
In
more
specific
terms.
The
court
found
that
the
council's
motivation
for
moving
the
boot
precincts
was
improper
but
merely
moving.
Those
precincts
was
not
the
problem.
Second,
the
court
returned
the
process
to
this
body
with
wide
latitude
to
redraw
the
lines.
Although
the
court
order
instructs
the
council
to
draw
based
on
traditional
redistricting
principles
like
population
balancing
and
neighborhood
unification,
it
does
not
dictate
where
any
specific
precincts
must
be
at
the
end
of
the
process,
including
the
boot
precincts.
S
This
all
means
that
changes
to
the
boot
precincts
are
not
off
limits
and
the
council
should
not
operate
under
that
assumption.
Those
precincts
can
and
should
be
moved
to
the
extent
necessary
to
unite
communities
of
interest
and
balanced
population,
and
those
are
precisely
the
reasons
that
the
Coalition
is
proposing
are
changes,
including
moving
Precinct
1414
to
D5.
Our
proposed
changes
keep
matapan
more
unified
in
D5,
which
testimony
has
made
clear,
is
significant
for
that
community
of
interest
and
balance
the
population
between
districts.
S
B
T
T
I'm
a
resident
of
Boston
and
I've
been
engaged
in
this
process
and
thought
that
we
had
a
thoughtful
process,
and
you
know
one
of
the
people
who
was
Gravely
disappointed
that
we
are
here-
and
let
me
just
remind
all
of
us-
we're
here,
because
a
handful
of
counselors
chose
to
invest
in
a
lawsuit
to
stop
a
process
in
a
map
that
was
Equitable
and
well
thought
out
and
created
opportunities
for
people
of
color
to
let
candidates
of
their
choice
and
so
I
think.
T
We
need
to
acknowledge
that
we're
here,
because
a
process
that
was
fair
and
Equitable
was
challenged.
T
This
is
I,
don't
believe
an
opportunity
for
a
reset
I,
don't
believe
it's
an
opportunity
for
a
do-over
most
definitively,
not
in
a
short
amount
of
time,
with
very
little
thoughtfulness.
I
I
think
what
this
is
and
is
an
opportunity
potentially
to
disrupt
what
was
actually
a
very
good
process
that
led
to
an
equitable
mass
and
I.
Don't
think
that
disruption
should
happen.
I
also,
unfortunately,
we're
here
also
because
we
did
not
challenge
or
appeal,
but
the
court
order.
T
So
what
I'm
here
to
say
is
I,
don't
think
we
should
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
reset
or
to
disrupt
something
that
was
fair
and
Equitable,
simply
because
people
don't
want
to
see
Progressive
change
happen
in
the
city
of
Boston
I
think
we
should
hold
to
the
map
with
that
councilor
Lara
has
proposed,
which
Alters
the
3-4
border
with
minimal
other
changes,
preserving
the
creation
of
more
opportunity
to
elect
candidates
of
color
in
the
city
and
in
fitting
with
the
the
redistricting
legislation
that
has
us
here
and
supporting
the
voices
of
the
of
people
of
color
of
Latinos
of
African
Americans
to
have
more
power
to
elect
candidates
that
represent
their
interests
and
that
represent
the
communities
as
as
they
evolve
as
we're
evolving
in
the
city
of
Boston.
T
U
Hello
and
thank
you
for
having
me
today,
my
name
is
Carolyn
Chu
I'm,
a
resident
of
16
6
and
work
in
the
Fields
Corner
area
want
to
Echo
a
lot
of
what
Rita
just
shared.
You
know
around
really
centering
Equity
centering
opportunity
districts
in
this
conversation
and
that
we
did
a
lot
of
really
good
work
in
the
fall
and
I
don't
want
all
of
that
to
be
lost.
U
U
Five
also
want
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
keeping
eight
nine
eight
one
and
nine
one
with
Chinatown
in
the
South
End
and
emphasize
what
Jacob
love
said
around
1713
and
that
that
you
know
we
do
need
to
deal
with
the
D3
D4
border
and
that
that
would
be
a
intuitive
Precinct
to
move
into
district
four,
but
I'm
also
here
and
we
just
submitted
a
letter
representing
both
the
organization.
U
I
worked
for
the
Asian
American
Resource
Workshop,
as
well
as
via
Aid
and
the
Asian
American
legal
defense
and
education
fund,
to
say
that
we
we
submitted
again
the
map
of
the
Vietnamese,
the
core
Vietnamese
precincts
in
our
neighborhood,
and
that
and
to
keep
that
Community
together.
U
We
are
want
to
make
sure
that
16,
1
and
16
3
move
into
District
three
as
a
way
to
make
the
community
whole
and
and
the
letter
should
have
been
submitted
now.
So
you
all
can
see
the
attachments,
but
just
want
to
emphasize
that
you
know
for
the
Vietnamese
Community
to
have
an
opportunity
to
elect
a
can.
U
You
know
a
candidate
of
their
choice
within
a
coalition
District
As,
We,
Know,
A
District,
like
District
3,
is
that
it
is
important
that
16-1
and
16-3
are
moved
into
District
three,
so
I
think
that
is
all
my
flights.
Thank
you.
B
V
Hi,
my
name
is
Chalet
Camillo
I
live
in
1414,
District,
Five
and
I
just
wanted
to
come
on
and
quickly
say
that
we
would
like
to
keep
District
Five,
where
it
is
in
1414,
where
it
is
just
like.
The
last
panelists
said
want
to
keep
District
Five
as
an
opportunity.
District
and
I
agree.
So
I
just
wanted
to
come
on
and
say
that
I
am
I,
don't
know
how
we
kind
of
got
thrown
into
the
dispute
between
two
and
three
and
what
was
going
on
and
I.
V
W
B
X
Okay,
you
can
hear
me
now:
yes,
yes,
so
I'm
just
concerned
with
the
with
the
boundaries
as
it
is
because
we
do
need
that
representation,
because
we've
been
I
said
the
district's
been
neglected
as
far
as
having
good
representation,
so
I
strongly
suggest.
X
Because
of
allowing
the
map
that
yourself,
the
counselor
obliged
you
would
see,
I'm
sorry,
if
I,
you
know
it's
my
first
time
and
I
need
to
educate
myself
more
of
the
of
the
boundaries
and
the
district,
so
that
we
can
identify
I
could
identify
the
boundaries
better,
but
I
I
vote
for
to
keep
the
district
14.
X
because
it
been
it's
been
like
that
for
what
19
2012
you
know,
so
I
just
support
your
boundaries
and
I
I,
look
forward
to
educating
myself
and
be
more
Advocate
to
help
sustain
and
keep
the
boundaries
as
they
are,
so
that
we
can
keep
the
diverse
community
at
matapan
and
Dorchester.
Thank
you.
Y
Hi,
thank
you.
Children,
hi,
I'm,
Linda,
Freeman
and
I'm,
a
member
of
United
for
justice
and
I
live
in
Roxbury
neighborhood
in
D7
I'm.
Just
disheartened
to
hear
about
the
Speedy
process,
but
I
understand
the
city
is,
is
making
having
to
make
a
fast
decision
as
to
not
impact
the
upcoming
election.
Y
Y
Y
Moving
Mission
Hill
into
the
district
makes
more
sense
to
support
the
makeup
of
the
community.
As
counselor
Anderson
has
already
stated.
The
district
already
includes
some
of
Mission
Hill.
This
would
make
our
communities
a
more
aligned
in
interest
with
mission
than
with
Copley.
We
ask
that
you
support
the
proposal
presented
by
our
district
7
counselor
in
keeping
Roxbury
whole
and
aligned
with
Mission
and
keeping
Copley
out
of
District
7..
Y
C
C
B
Z
Okay,
my
name
is
Kathleen
Harrison
and
I
live
on
River,
Street
and
I
believe
it
to
best
to
the
best
interest
to
unite
Wellington
Hill,
which
is
a
black
neighborhood,
because
they
share
the
same
interest
as
District,
4
and
I
believe
it
should
be
in
District,
Four
and
also
half
of
River.
Street
belongs
to
another
representative,
which
that
doesn't
kind
of
make
sense,
so
I
feel
that
14,
14
and
14
5.
Z
AA
Thank
you
appreciate
the
time
as
a
matter
of
pan
resident,
I
I
believe
we
should
be
United
in
Wellington
Hill
robot,
robust
black
neighborhood.
That
means
moving
Precinct
14-14
into
District
Four.
Thank
you.
AB
Hi,
how
you
doing
thank
you
for
for
having
me
so
I
could
share
my
opinion,
I'm
all
for
for
Unity
I
I,
really
don't
like
a
whole
lot
of
division
and
Everybody
Wants
represent
good
representation,
so
I
believe
1414
and
District
Four
should
should
be
together.
AB
AB
AC
Hello,
everyone,
hello,
thank
you
Council
Louisiana,
for
taking
me
out
of
turn.
It
is
Senate
budget
week,
so
I'm
running
back
and
forth
from
chamber
and
I
want
to.
Thank
all
my
colleagues
on
the
council
for
your
work
on
this
very
timely
and
sensitive
task.
Redistricting
is
an
incredibly
difficult
process
to
make
everyone
happy
and
I
know
that
the
voices
and
needs
of
the
communities
of
color
are
being
centered.
AC
It
is
vitally
important
that
we
work
together
to
produce
the
results
that
meet
our
constituents
needs
as
well
as
the
legal
legal
requirements
and
the
framework
that's
been
handed
to
this
Council
I
agree
with
the
work
of
the
council
has
been
doing
to
get
a
consensus
and
believe
that
the
body
is
making
and
will
make
that
happen.
It
requires
a
delicate
and
a
concentrated
effort
to
determine
how
we
build
political
power
in
communities
of
color
in
districts.
Three,
four
five
and
seven
that
sometimes
may
be
into
conflict
with
one
another.
AC
It
is
clear
that
the
chair
is
considering
the
needs
of
those
residents
and
I
know
that
the
chair
is
aware
of
the
gravity
of
the
tasking
her
experience
as
a
black
woman,
an
attorney
who
grew
up
in
this
community,
particularly
Mattapan
positions,
her
well
to
Shepherd
this
process,
but
it
is
critical
that
our
counselors
come
together
to
ensure
we
meet
this
important
deadline.
While
preserving
and
strengthening
communities
of
shared
interests,
who've
historically
been
disenfranchised
by
maps
that
exclude
them
from
meaningful
participation.
AC
I'd
like
to
thank
all
my
colleagues
in
city
government,
the
chair
would
see
Luigi
the
NAACP
and
the
entire
Coalition
for
working
to
try
to
restore
and
build
consensus,
particularly
of
The
Dudley,
Street
triangle,
communities
like
8,
5,
13,
1,
13,
2
and
13
4,
which
is
considered
the
dsni
land
trust
area
within
D7,
a
critically
important
community
of
Interest
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
work.
I
want
to
commend
you
all
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
together
and
I.
Look
forward
to
our
continued
partnership.
W
AD
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
am
I
am
really
concerned.
Oh,
my
name
is
Davido
andelman
I
live
in
15-2
in
both
Geneva.
AD
For
anybody
who
knows
me
knows
that
I
have
been
obsessed
about
about
redistricting
and
about
the
process
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
It's
very
disconcerting
to
feel
that,
and
you
are
exactly
in
one
one
district,
one
city,
council
district
and
then
wake
up
one
morning
to
find
out
that
you
have
been
redistricted
out
without
any
knowledge
without
any
information
and-
and
frankly,
it
has
been
very
disconcerting
and
redistricting
has
taken
plays
one
other
time
in
between
that
time
period.
AD
And
what
we're
doing
now
so
process
is,
is
of
the
utmost
importance
and
I
understand
the
importance
of
redistricting
I
think
you
know
it
is
important
for
the
redistribution
of
how
populations
are
reorganized,
and
you
know
it's
important
for
the
Democratic
process,
but
that
process
needs
to
be
needs
to
be
very
clear.
It
needs
to
be
timely.
It
needs
to
be
done
in
a
way
that
everyone
understands
it.
We
need
to
pay
attention
to
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
in
that
process.
AD
So,
having
said
that,
I
will
say
four
things
that
should
happen
as
I
said
before
an
adequate
amount
of
time.
The
process
needs
to
be
easily
accessible
in
clear
information,
provided
the
community
engagement
process
needs
to
be
respectful
of
all
residents
and
conducted
in
a
way
that
people
feel
feel
respected
and
they
understand
and
be
done
in
a
language
that
folks
feel
most
comfortable
with
with,
and
it
needs
to
be
done
in
smaller
in
a
smaller
setting.
AD
Having
large
city-wide
meetings
is
really
not
a
good
way
to
conduct
the
process,
so
I
I,
just
if
there
if
lines
need
to
be
redrawn,
I
think
it's
more
respectful,
if
you
just
don't
have
say
in
the
case
of
Ward
15
many
years
ago,
you
take
out
Precinct,
2
and
Princeton
five,
and
you
put
that
in
another
city,
council
District.
If
it's
really
critical,
that
lines
need
to
be
redrawn,
it
makes
much
more
sense
say
in
the
case
of
Ward
15,
there
are
nine
precincts.
AD
You
have
five
precinct
and
one
city
council
district
and
four
in
the
other
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
more
sense
and
also,
finally,
that
this
not
be
done
in
a
untransparent
way.
It's
a
process,
I'm
sure
that
a
lot
of
folks
don't
find
particularly
interesting.
AD
However,
today
it's
has
serious
implications
for
how
a
truly
Democratic
process
will
be
preserved,
or
perhaps
not
so.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
my
comments
have
been
submitted
and
maybe
they'll
be
a
little
bit
more
detail
than
I've
been
able
to
say
this
afternoon.
Thank
you
very
much.
AE
Great
thanks,
thank
you
for
taking
my
testimony.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge.
This
has
been
a
difficult
process
with
a
lot
of
puzzle.
Pieces
I
want
to
appreciate
everyone
who
has
done
all
the
work
that
they've
done
so
far,
including
my
own
City
councilor
Lara
encounter
illusion
for
sharing
these
discussions.
I'm
a
resident
of
Jamaica
Plain
I
am
also
part
of
the
steering
committee
of
JP
progressives
and
I'm.
Quite
active
locally
on
elections
talk
to
a
lot
of
Voters
and
we
partner
a
lot
with
other
organizations.
AE
I
worked
hard
in
2020
and
last
year
as
allies
to
the
Coalition
of
interveners.
We
also
participated
in
the
drawing
democracy,
Coalition
and
Community
process
around
redistricting
of
the
state
level.
So
we've
been
having
these
conversations,
I
feel
like
we've
been
steeped
in
them
care
a
lot
about
Democratic
processes
and
I
think
that
the
process
of
collecting
Community
feedback
in
the
last
round
was
really
robust
and
want
to
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
is
maintained
and
centered
and
that's
the
sort
of
closest
thing
we've
had
to
the
input.
AE
So,
given
this
I
want
to
support
the
changes
of
the
Coalition
of
interveners,
that
they've
put
forward
and
and
making
sure
that
sort
of
that
includes
ensuring
the
importance
of
focusing
any
changes
onto
the
map
to
the
specific
handful
of
precincts
that
that
were
mentioned
by
the
the
judge
and
specifically
districts.
Two
three
and
four.
AE
Some
of
this
specific
interventions
are
keeping
Precinct
14,
14
and
D5
I
grew
up
in
the
south
end,
so
I'm
also
particularly
attuned
to
the
importance
of
keeping
eight
one
and
nine
one
together
in
the
court,
Chinatown
precincts
in
the
South
End
and
then
precincts
16-1,
staying
in
D6
keeping
Little
Saigon
together
and
then
the
rest
of
the
interventions
that
the
Coalition
of
interviewers
has
proposed.
I
also
want
to
encourage
the
council
to
keep
Jamaica
plane
and
D6
intact.
We
formed
a
strong
community
of
aligned.
AE
Voters
we've
been
able
to
have
success
in
electing
the
representative
of
our
choice.
Councilora
would
like
to
retain
that
opportunity
and
since
it
wasn't
mentioned
by
the
judge's
decision,
we
think
that
that's
particularly
relevant
so
just
appreciate
all
of
you
for
your
work
and
thank
you
for
hearing
my
testimony
today.
B
Okay,
all
right
I
think
that's
everyone
for
virtual
testimony.
For
now
we
will
now
transition
to
in-person
testimony.
B
We
have
a
sign
up
sheet
here:
Ben
Templeton,
your
first
step
I'm,
going
to
ask
my
vice
chair
to
go
through
the
list
of
public
testimony
in
person.
Thank
you.
D
AF
My
name
is
Ben
Templeton
I
have
handouts
explaining
some
of
my
points.
I
was
told
there
might
be
a
staff
member
to
give
them
to
counselors
I.
AF
I'm
here
to
speak
as
a
resident
of
Mission
Hill
strongly
against
changes
like
those
in
mayor
Woo's
map,
but
also
against
copying
the
status
quo,
both
in
District
8
and
in
all
of
Boston.
During
these
hearings,
we've
heard
counselors
talk
about
the
importance
of
uniting
communities
of
Interest,
which
is
great,
but
I,
don't
understand
why
people
are
acting
like
the
status
quo
city
council
districts
are
communities
of
Interest
I
would
understand
if
you
were
trying
to
follow
the
enacted
map,
which
was
created
by
an
inclusive
community
process
or
since
the
judge
suspended
that
map.
AF
If
you
tried
to
follow
the
spirit
of
that
process
by
creating
districts
that
maximized
the
opportunity
for
marginalized
communities,
especially
those
with
low
voter
turnout
to
have
equal
rights
in
equal
voting
rights
in
Boston.
Unfortunately,
every
map
on
the
table
goes
backwards
in
the
direction
towards
historical
status
quo
inequalities.
AF
I
know.
Many
of
you
agree
that
voters
should
choose
their
politicians,
not
politicians
choosing
their
voters,
but
the
reality
is
that,
right
now
the
city
council
draws
the
lines
and
choosing
the
status
quo
is
still
making
a
choice.
There
is
no
way
to
draw
electoral
districts
that
is
quote
unquote,
not
political.
It
is
by
definition.
Political
and
choosing.
The
status
quo
is
a
bad
political
choice
on
in
this
city.
On
this
map,
choosing
the
status
quo
means
choosing
the
politics
of
white
supremacy
and
the
dominance
of
wealthy
interests
in
Boston
politics.
AF
AF
I've
noticed
that
a
lot
of
City
councilors
want
to
keep
their
precinct,
which
is
understandable,
but
there
sometimes
changes
do
need
to
be
made,
but
I
think
it's
fortunate
that
the
changes
that,
in
my
opinion,
need
the
most
change
are
my
own
District
8,
as
well
as
two
and
three,
because
eight
is
vacant,
I
believe
District,
3's
counselor
is
retiring
and
District
2
needs
to
lose
a
lot
of
precincts
anyways
because
of
overpopulation.
AF
So
my
hope
is
that,
after
decades
and
Decades
of
status
quo
districts
that
have
been
opposed
by
communities
of
color
that
we
will
have
the
chance
to
make
the
changes
that
need
to
happen
just
to
start
with
my
own
District,
eight
most
of
the
district
lives
in
Mission
Hill
in
Fenway,
which
are
lower
income,
mostly
university-centered
districts
that
have
very
low
voter
turnout.
AF
A
small
portion
of
the
district
or
a
small
portion
of
the
population
lives
in
Back,
Bay
and
Beacon
Hill,
but
those
have
often
over
double
the
voter
turnout
and
are
much
wealthier.
That's
why
I
would
ask
you
to
consider
moving
the
Northeastern
University
area
from
district
7
to
District
8
and
moving
the
Back
Bay
Beacon
Hill
area
from
District
8
to
District
2.
AF
again,
choosing
the
status
quo
is
still
a
choice
and
when
there's
a
vacant
District
we
could
be
having
someone
for
10
years,
who
is
basically
represented
by
like
a
millionaire
and
their
friends
who
live
near
them.
Even
if
the
majority
of
the
population
is
voting
for
the
opposite
candidate,
as
happened
in,
for
example,
the
2018
governor
election,
which
in
Boston
was
quite
polarized,
it
was
roughly
equal
across
the
city
and
in
the
current
District
8
as
it
exists.
AF
The
Charlie
Baker
one,
despite
the
fact
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
population
lived
in
precincts
that
voted
for
Jay,
Gonzalez
I
will
try
to
be
quick
because
I'm
pretty
sure
I'm
reaching
my
time.
But
basically
this
makes
District
2
even
more
overpopulated,
but
it
does
mean
that
you
can
unify
all
of
the
precincts
in
Chinatown
and
South
End
mentioned
by
the
Chinese
Progressive
Association.
You
can
unify
all
those
in
District
3
instead
of
District,
Two
and
I
know
this.
AF
This
whole
problem
was
started
by
the
split
of
Neponset
between
District
4
and
District
3..
You
can
unify
that
in
District
Four,
which
is
still
by
a
large
margin,
a
Voting
Rights
Act,
protected
District.
It
would
actually
still
be
the
most
black
District
in
the
city,
and
it
would
be,
it
would
not
need
to
take
areas,
for
example,
from
District
Five
Which
is
less
black
and
would
become
even
more
white
if
it
was
removed.
It's
just
for
those
precincts
like
in
Mattapan
were
moved
into
District
Four.
AF
So
then
you
could
Unite
immigrant
communities
like
the
area
around
Fields
Corner
and
those
chinatowns
and
South
End
precincts
all
of
them
in
District
3,
giving
those
immigrant
communities
the
ability
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choice
rather
and
have
those
white
voters
who
are
very
wealthy
and
very
high
turnout
and
Back
Bay,
Beacon
Hill
and
South
Boston,
all
in
District
2,
rather
than
strategically
Distributing
them,
as
happened
in
the
past
in
a
history
that
we
know
a
city
that
we
know
as
a
history
of
systemic
racism,
allowing
them
to
control
many
more
districts
and
their
actual
population
numbers.
AF
Because
of
the
lower
voter
turnout
of
communities
of
color
and
working-class
communities.
My
plan
is
physically
on
the
handouts.
This
is,
of
course,
just
an
example.
Map
I'm
one
random
person,
but
it
just
proves
that
it
is
possible
to
follow
all
of
these
things
and
I
believe
that
if
it
is
possible,
the
council
should
because
I
don't
want
10
more
years
of
status
quo,
and
the
plan
is
also
online
at
or
example,
is
on
this
online
at
districtr.org
plan.
Slash
one,
eight,
five,
four
zero
one.
Thank
you
all
for
your
consideration.
Thank.
D
AG
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Louis
Elisa
I'm,
a
resident
of
Roxbury
we're
a
12th,
Precinct,
nine
and
I'm
here
again
today,
because
I
was
here
yesterday,
but
I
had
more
time
to
think
and
listen
to
hear
what
was
being
said
and
I
knew.
I
was
compelled
to
come
back,
even
though
there
were
other
things
to
do.
I'm
coming
back,
basically,
to
reiterate
what
I
said,
but
with
a
more
great
understanding
of
the
need
to
say
that
one,
we
can't
have
a
process
that
doesn't
take
into
consideration.
AG
Reality
I
want
you
to
imagine
for
a
second.
If
you
took
your
car
into
inspection
and
you
got
a
rejection
Center,
because
your
lights
weren't
adjusted
properly,
they
reject
you
and
they
send
you
back
with
a
sticker
that
you
have
two
months
to
fix.
AG
In
this
case,
you
don't
have
two
months
to
fix
this
rejected
sticker,
but
you
take
it
to
send
it
back
to
your
mechanic
and
and
when
you
come
to
pick
it
up,
you
find
your
engine
on
the
floor
and
you're
you're
brakes
apart
and
you
find
the
windshield
taken
out
and
you
find
your
catalytic
converter
sitting
somewhere
else
and
you
say:
I
just
needed
to
pass
inspection,
because
the
rejections,
because
the
lens
of
my
lights
were
not
adjusted
properly.
This
is
where
we
are
on
the
situation.
AG
With
the
ruling
of
the
judge,
who
said
that
we
had
two
districts
that
we
had
to
adjust.
We
had
to
look
at
not
that
she
said
it
was
illegal.
You
broken
the
laws
of
process
or
that
somehow
we
did
not
do
the
proper
vetting
in
order
to
develop
this
map.
That
became
before
the
judge.
People
had
concerns
and
they
have
right
to
raise
those
concerns.
But
when
the
judge
says,
you've
got
to
adjust
your
lens
and
then
somebody
decides
to
do
a
makeover
for
your
car
you're.
Basically
saying
what
is
this
going
to
cost?
AG
This
I?
Don't
think
that
we
can
put
together
in
the
short
period
time
that
we
have
a
map,
that's
going
to
be
comprehensive
to
reach
the
needs
of
the
cons
and
concerns
of
everybody
who
was
engaged
in
the
beginning
process.
We
went
through
months
to
get
where
we
were.
We
went
through
a
number
of
hearings
and
I
think
that
was
being
challenged,
how
the
hearings
were
handled,
but
it
it
was.
Not
your
car
fails
to
be
roadworthy
or
your
car
can't
be
on
the
road.
It
was
that
you
had
to
adjust
the
lens.
AG
What
we're
doing
now
does
not
give
all
the
people
who
are
engaged
and
involved
an
opportunity,
and,
as
you
say,
we
have
one
District
that
doesn't
even
have
representation
for
them
to
argue
that
maybe
the
steering
wheel
should
not
be
in
the
middle,
but
that
should
be
where
it
started
in
the
beginning.
I'm
asking
that
we
think
about
what
we're
saying
here.
I
think
that
it's
ridiculous
to
say
we're
not
going
to
talk
politics
because
we're
in
a
political
setting.
It's
absolutely
ridiculous,
not
to
say
politics
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
situation.
AG
It's
ridiculous
not
to
take
in
consideration
that
all
interests
can't
be
taken
as
a
separate
item
as
to
how
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
have
something
that
works.
But
what
is
important
for
us
to
look
at
is
there
was
a
process,
a
number
of
people
and
communities
and
groups
were
involved.
It
took
some
time
to
get
there.
AG
What
we're
doing
now
seems
like
people
are
trying
to
take
this
car
and
turn
it
into
an
airplane,
or
maybe
a
boat,
but
it's
not
coming
out
for
the
benefit
of
the
process
that
we're
trying
to
establish,
which
is
Equitable
access
to
politics
and
to
people
who
represent
us
in
the
various
communities
throughout
the
city
of
their
problems
that
we
can
adjust
and
fix
and
get
back
so
that
we
can
pass
inspection.
We
should
do
that
as
quickly
as
possible.
AG
If
we
are
concerned
about
the
quality
of
life
of
all
residents
of
Boston,
all
residents
of
Boston,
not
just
our
own
enclaves
and
our
own
groups,
then
we
have
to
take
in
consideration
that
the
adjustments
that
needed
to
be
made
can
be
done
without
completely
dissecting
the
car
or
having
a
tabular
roster
and
starting
from
the
beginning
and
saying,
let's
get
it
back
on
the
assembly
line
to
rebuild
the
car.
We
want
something.
AG
I'm
asking
that
we
look
at
it
from
a
political
perspective
from
a
human
perspective
from
a
community
perspective,
I'm
representing
the
Garrison
Trident
neighborhood
association,
I
heard
from
11
of
my
members.
Last
night,
we've
been
around
for
44
years,
working
with
the
city
of
Boston
in
the
communities
within
the
Roxbury
area,
I'm
working
with
Rockville
United
Neighbors,
which
are
collective
order.
40
Community
organizations
and
three
people
heard
from
from
that
group
asked.
Why
were
we
doing
this
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
look
at
Council
Laura's
map?
AG
Sincerely,
as
it
requires
the
least
adjustment
to
this
vehicle
to
get
it
back
on
the
road
that
what
other
concerns
we
may
have
for
whatever
personal
reasons
or
political
reasons,
since
this
is
a
political
body
that
we
put
them
aside
for
now
for
the
good
of
the
public,
the
good
of
all
the
public
will
Roxbury
lose
in
any
other
configuration
in
terms
of
access
to
resources.
Yeah
somewhat
will
Dorchester
be
hurt
and
any
other
configuration
Mr.
AG
AG
That
God
is
here
in
the
first
place
to
those
who
were
part
of
the
original
map
and
now,
as
we
come
back
and
ask
for
the
concerns
of
the
community
to
be
taking
consideration,
that
we'd
be
fair
and
what
we're
asking
for
so
that
all
communities,
particularly
in
communities,
the
color
and
communities
of
interest
that
were
there
in
the
beginning
and
went
through
the
process
that
they
are
considering
their
concerns,
be
taken
into
consideration
and
voting
and
then
further
discussion
of
how
we
move
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AH
Hello,
I'm
Vanessa,
snow,
Hyde,
Park
resident
and
the
policy
and
organizing
director
at
Mass
vote
and
I'm,
testifying
with
our
Coalition
of
interveners,
represented
by
lawyers
for
civil
rights
that
consist
of
NAACP
Boston
Branch
Chinese
Progressive
Association,
New,
England
United
for
justice,
Massachusetts
voter
table
along
with
a
few
of
other
Ally
neighborhood
and
Civic
associations.
AH
Collectively
we
are
proposing
five
changes
to
the
map.
That's
currently
on
the
drawing
table.
The
city
council
is
close
to
a
map
that
will
achieve
the
best
outcome
for
all
bostonians
to
keep
communities
of
Interest
together
and
preserve
the
power
to
elect
candidates
of
choice.
We
recommend
five
precincts,
be
moved
from
the
current
working
map,
keeping
Precinct
1414
in
D5
to
ensure
greater
representation
for
residents
along
Blue
Hill
Ave
as
Redevelopment
moves
forward.
Keeping
matapan
in
D5
provides
more
representation
for
the
Immigrant
and
bipoc
communities
of
interest
in
that
District.
AH
Precincts
1601
should
stay
in
D3
to
keep
Little
Saigon
together
and
ensure
that
the
Vietnamese
Community
has
a
strong
representation
in
their
neighborhoods
and
can
remain
whole.
And,
lastly,
we
move
Precinct
1603
to
D
from
D3
to
D4
and
Precinct
6-1
and
37
from
D2
to
D3
to
balance
the
overall
population.
AH
D
You
so
much
Vanessa.
Next
we
have
Clifton
Breakwater,
yes
and
great
white
and
Mimi
Ramos
will
be
right
after
you
can
go
ahead.
Clifton.
Thank
you.
AI
Councilor
Laura
everybody
in
the
community
said
your
draft
is
one
of
the
best
I
just
want
us
to
come
to
an
equilibrium,
because
the
people
of
Boston
deserve
great
representation
and
there's
some
good
people
out
here.
AI
So
I
won't
be
long
and
boring.
We
believe
in
you
we'll
support
each
one
of
you
as
a
community
leader.
I
just
want
us
to
break
the
nonsense
and
come
to
a
conclusion
for
the
people,
because
if
we
are
disorganized,
you
can
imagine
how
the
community
is
feeling
because
they're
really
lost
and
don't
understand
a
lot
of
this
process,
so
without
further
Ado
I'll,
just
like
for
the
people
that
I
love
and
respect
to
come
to
a
conclusion.
AI
AJ
AJ
AJ
Precinct,
17
and
13.
Excuse
me:
Precinct
1713
should
move
in
to
District
Four
to
achieve
population
balance
Precinct
16-1.
It
is
imperative
that
we
keep
Little
Saigon
and
the
Vietnamese
Community
together
in
the
Fields
Corner
neighborhood,
and
we
are
here
to
support
Precinct
six
one
and
three
seven
from
D2
to
D3,
also
to
balance
overall
population.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
We
have
elections
this
year
and
it
is
our
responsibility
on
the
ground
as
Grassroots
organizations
as
civil
rights
leaders,
as
well
as
this
body
to
behave
in
a
manner
that
can
move
our
communities
forward
to
have
healthy
debates,
but
to
listen
to
the
heartbeat
of
our
neighborhoods.
You
trusted
Community
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
when
the
city
did
not
have
enough
hands
to
do
the
hard
work
to
make
sure
that
our
communities
were
fed
and
that
our
residents
were
housed.
AJ
10
years
and
I
would
argue
even
longer
so
take
the
time
to
walk
the
streets.
Talk
to
community,
listen
to
what
the
neighborhoods
have
to
say,
because
we
are
taking
this
issue
very
seriously
and
I'm.
Sorry
that
councilor
warrell
had
to
step
out
when
I
was
speaking
but
I'll
make
sure
to
send
my
notes
into
the
counselor
as
well.
This
is
not
a
debate
over
who
got
the
best
map
in
line,
but
we
have
to
be
okay
with
having
healthy
debates
so
that
we
can
talk
about
what
our
communities
need
to
keep
our
communities
whole.
AJ
We
will
not
divide
the
black
brown
and
API
communities
in
Boston.
We
are
talking
with
each
other.
We
have
a
right
to
organize.
We
have
a
right
to
talk
with
our
counselors,
but
the
behavior
of
this
body
has
been
an
embarrassment
and
I
hope
that
moving
forward,
we
can
take
all
of
the
conversations
and
dialogue
from
Community
into
consideration.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
D
Thank
you,
Mimi
Ramos
we're
gonna
go
to
Virtual
testimony.
We
have
a
few.
D
While
we
get
our
virtual
keyed
up,
we
can
have
Diane
Wilkerson.
Please.
AK
At
the
end
of
my
hallway,
so
I've
seen
bizarre
redistricting
like
no
one
else
has
seen.
I
was
sitting
in
the
courtroom
in
2002,
when
the
then
former
Senate
Speaker
of
the
House
fenerin
testified
was
in
the
courtroom.
The
day
the
judge
ruled
and
ruled
that
he
had
perjured
himself
in
his
redistricting.
Testimony
was
forced
to
resign.
AK
I
spent
the
good
part
of
with
many
other
people
in
the
Coalition
that
you
heard
of
today
heard
from
today
in
the
courthouse
listening
to
the
hearing,
the
preliminarian
junction
and
actually
that's
a
significant,
because
that's
why
we're
here
today,
as
interveners
I've,
never
been
involved
in
seeing
an
illegal
process
where
the
plaintiffs
and
the
defendants
were
one
of
the
same
body.
AK
But
we
witnessed
that
and
watched
the
city
councils
from
this
body
testify
as
plaintiffs,
although
they
were
also
defendants
in
this
lawsuit,
bizarre
bizarre
and
so
going
forward.
We
have
done
what
we
feel
we
needed
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we
actually
have
representation
for
a
community
of
black
brown,
an
Asian
population
of
people
who
are
here
opportunity.
Districts
are
really
my
point
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you,
and
that
is
this.
AK
There
is
no
process
in
which
a
court
will
allow
us
to
undo
opportunity
districts.
You
don't
go
backwards.
You
have
to
be
mindful
of
the
numbers.
There
was
a
comment
at
the
beginning
by
one
of
the
counselors
at
the
need
to
do
a
racial
polarized
voting
assessment,
which
I
know
has
not
been
done
because
we
haven't
had
the
time
to
do
it.
I
think.
If
you
look
at
those
numbers,
you
will
understand
why
we
felt
the
need
to
intervene.
AK
I
am
confident
if
this,
if
this
body
moves
forward
with
the
plan
to
fix
D5
and
D4
by
packing
more
black
residents
into
District
Four
for
what
that's.
This
is
not
a
process
that
you
move
people
because
people
want
them
in
the
district.
It's
supposed
to
be
what
we
need
we're
trying
desperately
to
hang
on
to
district
7
as
a
majority
people
of
color
district
and
all
the
while.
This
Council
has
been
focused
on
packing
more
black
people
into
District
Four.
AK
It
makes
no
sense
that
was
a
very
fragile
line
process
that
we
did
to
get
to
the
opportunity,
districts,
D5
and
D3.
They
are
in
Jeopardy,
depending
on
what
you
do
with
this
map,
and
it's
more
than
just
numbers
and
I'll
just
wrap
up
to
say
this
more
than
just
numbers.
You
have
to
look
at
the
racial
polarized
voting.
You
have
to
look
at
the
voting
AIDS
population.
AK
If
you
do
that,
you
will
understand
why
we
feel
so
strongly
that
you
have
it
in
your
power
to
undo
three
decades
of
progress
simply
by
moving
Ward
1414
out
of
D5,
and
it's
not
about
unifying
70
percent
of
Mattapan
is
nd5.
If
you
wanted
to
really
talk
about
unifying
you'd,
be
talking
about
moving
the
rest
of
matapan
into
D5
instead
of
the
other
way
around,
that's
a
fact,
and
so
we're
watching.
AK
We
hope
that
we
can
come
to
consensus,
but
we
are
more
than
more
than
prepared
and
ready
to
do
what
is
necessary
if
we
shall
not,
even
if
it
means
delaying
an
election,
because
speed
should
not
be
our
goal
here.
We
have
to
get
this
right
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
D
AL
AL
D
AL
Hi,
my
name
is
Erica
Steves
and
I've
testified
regarding
redistricting
before
at
least
a
dozen
times
to
start
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
five
suggested
map
amendments
that
have
been
put
forth
by
the
Coalition
that
have
been
at
the
Forefront
of
pushing
for
equity
and
representation
for
all
of
Austin
residents.
But
my
comments
are
less
about
the
details
of
Precinct
moves
with
the
bigger
picture.
The
forest
I've
mentioned
before
that
precincts
and
Wars
are
the
building
blocks
of
city
council
districts
just
like
they
are
for
census,
tracts.
AL
It's
a
fact
that
the
city
of
Boston
failed
in
its
job
of
representing
the
city
in
a
way
that
provides
a
fairer
and
more
Equitable
way
to
build
wards
that
can
be
rolled
into
subsequent
city
council
districts.
Okay,
it
is
this
failure
to
recognize
forecasts
and
reconcile
population
growth
and
development
patterns
in
the
aftermath
of
the
census
that
led
to
districts
two
and
three
being
far
beyond
the
standard.
AL
The
map
that
was
approved
in
the
fall
offered
the
best
option
to
balance
all
of
those
factors
by
offering
a
reasonable
opportunity
districts
for
communities
of
color
to
elect
the
accountants
of
choice.
However,
due
to
what
I
consider
poor
defense
effort,
the
federal
judge
frankly
placed
value
on
the
concerns
of
the
highest
turnout
precincts
over
all
else,
which
is
directly
counter
to
the
whole
point
of
redistricting,
and
it
says
a
lot
about
the
concerns
around
democracy
and
representation.
AL
So
that
leads
us
to
today.
We
should
not
back
down
from
the
opportunity
to
place
value
on
those
who
have
historically
been
the
least
likely
to
vote.
Some
people
take
issue
with
the
notion
that
Boston
is
a
racist
City.
Yet
nobody
in
my
neighborhood,
even
blinks,
at
that
suggestion,
so
I
urge
us
to
recognize
that
systemic
inequity
is
often
not
seen,
but
we
can
spell
it
when
you
can't
smell
it.
You
can
hear
it
and
you
can't
hear
it
you
can
feel
it.
AL
D
W
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak.
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
W
I
support
the
map
that
unifies
or
reunites
Mattapan,
which
is
Council
rootsie's
map,
because
it
identifies
the
borders
and
boundaries
and
D4
that
have
been
historically
out
of
D4
and
those
neighborhoods
share
the
same
interests
as
the
neighborhoods
and
D4.
Currently.
W
I
also
want
to
share
that
it's
important
for
as
we
make
these
decisions
that
affect
the
community
that
we're
really
focusing
on
the
community
and
not
necessarily
our
own
games,
and
so
with
that
I
just
want
to
share
that
I
definitely
support
the
math
that
we
unite.
Mattapan
Mattapan
is
a
large
community
of
color
and
oftentimes.
It
is
neglected
and
things
don't
get
done.
The
way
that
they
should
get
done,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
that
the
map
that
reunites
District.
AH
B
Thank
you,
friends
and
thank
you
to
everyone
offered
public
testimony.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
time
and
making
your
voices
heard.
This
has
been
a
really
quick
process
that
we
have
had
to
draw
this
new
map
and
trying
to
do
so
with
all
sweet.
So
I
appreciate
everyone
for
giving
their
time.
I
just
want
to
go
over
just
based
on
some
comments.
B
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
bit
what
this
map
does
and
where
it
is,
first
of
all,
responding
to
the
federal
courts,
order
to
make
sure
that
we
were
not
and
permissively
engaging
in
a
constitutional
violation
with
three
and
four,
and
also
there
have
been
several
comments
made
about
16,
1
and
16
3.
They
are
united,
as
we
heard
advocacy
for
United
in
District.
Three,
a
lot
of
this
map
a
lot
of
the
effort.
A
lot
of
effort
was
made
to
maintain
roxbury's
borders.
B
So
you
see
those
have
been
and
remain.
The
same
in
this
map
also
want
to
address
a
comment
about
District
Seven
and
the
changes
that
were
made.
There
was
a
comment
yesterday
about
four
six
and
we
had
I
had
spoken
to
the
counselor
briefly
about
four
six
and
about
that
being
part
of
D7.
There
was
a
conversation
that
was
had
about
what
else
could
possibly
work.
B
I
had
not
actually
done
the
numbers
to
see
if
there
was
a
potentially
another
Precinct
that
could
work,
and
so
another
Precinct
was
added
instead
of
four
six,
and
that
is
just
that.
B
I'm
right
here
for
seven
I
know
that
there
was
some
discussion
at
some
point
about
Mission
Hill
I
do
believe
that
if
we
are
moving-
and
this
was
some
of
the
problem
with
some
of
the
other
maps
that
we
saw
if
we
are
moving
neighborhoods
in
and
out
of
districts,
that
requires
a
larger
Community
process
and
also
there's
no
City
councilor
right
now
for
district
eight
and
so
big
changes
to
District,
eight
are
discouraged,
and
so
I
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record.
B
Obviously,
there's
also
other
changes
once
you
account
for
the
potential
constitutional
violation.
District
4
needs
population,
and
so
some
of
the
historical
relationships
that
D4
had
exist
in
1414
and
1414
was
placed
in
D4.
B
I
know
that
there
are
other
comments
and
I
want
to
seed
it
to
my
colleagues
for
any
comments
on
this
map
and
any
changes,
because
I
believe
this
map
meets
population
variance,
it
listens
to
some
of
the
communities
of
community
interests,
particularly
we
have
eight
one
and
nine
one
that
are
together
in
D2.
B
We
are
respecting
the
Roxbury
line.
We
have
16
1
and
16-3
together
in
District
in
District
three
and
so
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
just
started
with
that
and
put
that
on
the
record.
That's
where
this
map
is
so
councilor
Arroyo
I
see
your
light
is
on.
You
know,
I
have
before.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'd,
like
now
to
address
one
of
the
major
issues
that
I
have
with
this
map,
but
I
want
to
begin
by
thanking
the
community
for
taking
the
time
to
come
here
and
to
Advocate.
I
know
it's
difficult
when
people
are
working
and
these
are
held
during
two
to
five
hours
for
our
communities,
especially
for
folks
who
are
significantly
disenfranchised
to
make
the
time
or
to
even
know
that
these
things
are
happening,
and
so
thank
you
for
that.
H
I
want
to
refer
to
for
my
colleagues
what
has
been
submitted
previously.
It's
under
docket0935
and
I
want
to
refer
to
the
federal
ruling,
specifically
page
10,
where
they
make
reference
to
Dr,
Lisa,
Hanley
and
her
report.
They
summarize
it
and
then
I'll
go
into
the
report.
H
They
say
Dr
Hanley
stated
that
an
opportunity
district
is
a
district
that
provides
minority
voters
with
an
opportunity
to
elect
their
candidates
of
choice,
determining
if
a
district
allows
for
minority
voters
to
elect
their
candidates
of
choice
as
a
functional
District
by
District
analysis
that
requires
an
evaluation
of
recompiled
election
results
and
voting
patterns.
We
haven't
done
that
here.
We
don't
even
have
plans
to
do
that
here
before
we
vote
on
this,
and
so
I
just
want
to
go
into
what
she
did
find
in
the
report
we
already
did
for
my
colleagues.
H
It
submitted
his
docket
90935.
Its
title
is
an
analysis
of
voting
patterns
by
race
and
an
assessment
of
minority
voters,
opportunities
to
elect
candidates
in
recent
Boston
Municipal
elections.
I'll
just
read.
Some
of
the
highlights.
I
was
retained
by
the
city
of
Boston
to
conduct
an
analysis
of
voting
patterns
by
race
and
Hispanic
ethnicity.
H
She
also
for
folks
who
are
wondering
Dr,
Lisa
Hanley
has
35
years
of
experience
as
a
voting
rights
and
redistricting
expert,
and
she
makes
clear
and
I
think
this
is
really
important,
because
we
keep
talking
about
things
like
it
looks
kind
of
funny
or
does
this
or
that
and
those
aren't
really
traditional,
really
the
compactness.
Every
single
one
of
these
would
probably
be
arguably
compact,
as
they
were
created
in
2012,
and
so
the
idea
that
something
looks
kind
of
funny
isn't
really
a
fundamental
redistricting
principle
which
she
makes
clear
is
and
I'm.
H
Quoting
now
from
the
report,
the
Voting
Rights
Act
of
1965
prohibits
any
voting
standard
practice
or
procedure,
including
redistricting
plans
that
result
in
the
denial
or
dilution
of
minority
voting
strength,
and
so,
let's
see
what
she
found
in
her
analysis.
If
you
go
to
page
between
six
of
her
analysis,
she
says
what
she
looked
at.
She
says:
I
analyzed
recent
2015
to
2021
Boston,
Municipal,
preliminary
and
general
election
contests,
most
of
which
included
minority
candidates.
H
The
following
is
a
list
of
election
contests
examined
and
she
looks
at
mayoral
primaries:
mayoral
generals
and
city
council,
District
seats,
primaries
and
Generals,
and
the
reason
she
does
this
is
she
says
that
at
large
you
can
vote
for
four
people
which,
in
her
words
presents
complications
for
conducting
a
racial
voting
block
analysis
in
the
case
of
a
district
race.
For
folks
who
don't
know,
you
have
to
choose
one
candidate,
and
so
what
did
she
find?
I'm
going
to
speak
specifically
to
my
district
in
District
Five?
H
H
A
plurality
of
black
voters
supported
Jean-Claude
sanon,
the
plurality
of
Hispanic
voters,
supported
Arroyo
and
the
plurality
of
white
voters
supported
Maria
as
Del
Farrell,
and
so
they
found
that
in
2019
the
voting
was
polarized,
but
that's
not
the
only
time
they
found
racially
polarized
voting.
They
also
founded
in
2013
for
folks
who
don't
know
the
history
of
District
five.
After
this
map
was
passed
in
2012,
we
had
our
first
I
believe
Haitian
immigrant
to
ever
make
it
to
a
final
in
District
Five.
H
It
was
also
the
first
time
a
person
of
color
ever
made
it
to
a
final
in
District
Five.
That
person
was
Jean-Claude
sanon
and
then,
under
this
map
we
elected
the
first
person
of
color,
who
was
myself
and
I
want
to
be
clear
that
District
Five
does
not
belong
to
any
one.
Individual
I
do
not
think
of
District
Five,
as
mine,
I,
think
of
District
Five
as
belonging
to
the
constituents
and
the
residents
who
live
in
District,
five,
which
is
comprised
of
all
of
High
Park.
H
All
of
Hyde
Park
exists
in
District,
Five
and
then
70
percent
of
matapan
is
in
District
Five
as
it
currently
stands,
and
then
District
Rosen
is
currently
split
between
three
districts,
as
it's
currently
comprised
it's
between
District,
five
district,
four
and
District
Six
and
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second.
H
What
they
came
to
the
conclusion
of
voting
is
often
racially
polarized
I'm,
quoting
voting,
is
often
racially
polarized
in
Boston
Municipal
elections,
particularly
in
the
preliminary
elections,
District
5
has
been
successful
in
electing
a
Hispanic
preferred
candidate,
albeit
only
because
this
candidate
garnered
some
support
from
White
voters
into
a
degree
black
voters,
a
district-specific,
functional
analysis
of
the
proposed
plan
indicates
that
this
plan
will
provide
minority
voters
with
the
same
opportunity
to
elect
their
preferred
candidates
to
city
council,
as
they
currently
have
under
their
present
plan.
Here's
what
we've
done
since
this.
H
This
judge
order
talks
about
1912
and
1807..
We
I
hear
a
lot
about
you
know.
Whatever
conspiracy
theories
were
getting
thrown
over
there.
Essentially,
what
we're
talking
about
is
under
no
circumstance.
Is
there
a
map
here
before
us
that
unifies
all
of
Roslindale
I?
Don't
have
that
map?
It
doesn't
exist.
1912
and
1807,
which
were
both
in
the
enacted
map
that
has
since
been
enjoined
but
have
also
been
I,
believe
our
encounter
flowers,
map
and
I
believe
is
also
to
some
degree
in
Council
mayor
Wu's
map.
H
Those
actually
add
those
Roslindale
precincts
back
in
right
now.
This
map
doesn't
add
those
precincts
back
in
and
when
you
look
at
racially
racially
racial
bouldering
patterns,
you're
going
to
see
racial
polarized
voting
patterns,
you're
going
to
see
that
there's
some
differences
there.
But
we've
heard
a
lot
of
discussion
today
about
14,
14
and
28
and
I
think
this
is
worth
looking
at
the
numbers,
because
when
we
had
Professor
duchin
here
and
apologies
to
her
name,
I
think
everybody
essentially
Slaughters
it.
H
Well,
at
the
time
acting
mayor,
Janie
had
120
votes
in
1414
Campbell
had
38
and
28
Anissa
Sabi
Michelle
Wu
had
220
votes,
Anisa
zabi
George
had
126,
so
those
are
your
two
top
finishers
on
both
sides
in
2013
back
to
the
district
race
that
first
race,
these
numbers
are
pretty
Stark
in
1414,
sanon
won
202
to
McCarthy's
102
and
28.
Zenon
got
110
to
McCarthy's
381.
H
in
2015,
1414
again
went
for
sanon
28
went
27
votes
for
sonone
171
for
McCarthy
in
2019.
In
the
preliminary
Mr
sanon
B
myself,
it
was
me
me,
and
him
were
one
and
two
in
28.
Sanon
got
exactly
two
votes:
two
votes
in
the
preliminary
in
2019
to
my
83.,
and
so
folks,
who
want
to
make
this
about
whether
or
not
I
believe
that
28
is
better
for
me
personally
or
14.
14
is
better
for
me
personally,
that's
not
what
I'm
up
here
representing
or
what
I'm
trying
to
represent.
H
What
we
actually
have
is
a
situation
where
there
is
a
very
clear
Dr.
Lisa
Hanley
has
described
it.
Racialized
voting
patterns
within
District
Five
and
what
this
map
does
is
it
literally
only
removes
it
only
removes
from
District
Five
Mattapan
precincts.
That
is
all
it
does
it
solely
removes
from
our
from
District
Five
Mattapan
precincts.
H
It
removes
nothing
else
and
then
it
does
that
in
a
way
where
the
racialized
voting
patterns
that
are
already
been
evidenced
in
that
report
by
Dr
Lisa
Hanley
are
further
strengthened,
not
just
by
the
subtraction
of
those
precincts,
but
by
the
addition
of
21
that
currently
resides
within
councilor
Lara's
District
in
District
Six,
and
so
what
you're
doing
is
you're,
making
a
situation
where
Mata
pans
voting
power,
which
has
been
pretty
clearly
indicated
by
one
the
results
of
elections,
but
also
Dr,
Lisa
hanley's
study,
and
has
been
noted
in
the
in
the
findings
that
we
got
from
the
federal
judge
where
we
have
a
situation
where
mattapan's
voting
power
in
District
5
is
severely
weakened
and
where
racialized
voting
patterns,
which
this
committee
isn't
even
going
to.
H
Try
to
study,
isn't
going
to
have
an
expert
in
here
to
try
to
analyze
and
where
the
numbers
actually
show
that
it
exists
and
where
the
previous
study
actually
shows
that
it
exists.
It
only
further
makes
that
worse,
and
so
what
we're
talking
about
is
for
the
next
decade
and
I
want
to
just
commend
the
council
in
2012
for
getting
here
and
and
putting
a
map
forward
in
a
map
that
did
this.
H
One
of
the
major
aspects
of
difference
here
is
that,
under
the
2012
map
that
was
passed
under
that
map
mayor
Janie
at
the
time
defeated
Michelle
Wu
in
District,
Five
Michelle
Wu
lives
in
1810.
She
lives
in
District
Five
under
the
map
that
we
currently
have
no
changes
period.
Just
the
map
that
we
were
elected
to
Michelle
Wu
loses
to
Kim
Janie
in
that
map.
Under
this
map.
Under
this
map,
Michelle
Wu
beats
Kim
Janey
by
nearly
500
votes,
and
so
when
we're
talking
about
racially
polarized
voting.
H
H
Suddenly,
the
black
mayoral
candidate
is
down
500
votes
and
it's
because
you've
removed
only
matapan,
precincts
and
you've
continued
to
add
precincts
that
have
demonstrated
racially
voting.
Racialized
voting
patterns
based
on
the
study
by
Lisa,
Hanley
and
so
I
would
ask
us,
because
I
don't
believe
that
this
council
is
going
to
bring
in
an
expert
to
break
down
all
of
these
things
in
time
for
us
to
pass
the
map
to
not
move
the
election
date.
H
But
I
would
say
that
if
we
can't
get
to
agreement
on
not
harming
District
Five
in
that
way
that
we
do
delay
an
election,
because
it's
that
important,
what
I
would
say
is
if
we
can't
do
those
things.
We
should
do
our
best
to
minimize
these
harms,
because
the
way
in
which
this
came
about
was
so
that
we
could
essentially
have
a
lawsuit
that,
in
the
judge's
words
dealt
with
white
voting
populations
and
the
lower
Neponset
area
and
we're
essentially
protecting
all
of
that
we're
acting
like
we
can't
be
touched
whatsoever.
For
any
reason.
H
Even
though
half
a
Lower
Mills
is
currently
in
District
Four,
so
putting
1713
into
Lower,
Mills
makes
perfect
sense
from
a
unification
standpoint
and
then
creating
that
population
imbalance
doesn't
allow
me
if
it's
the
stated
purpose
of
this
issue,
to
try
and
unify
Roslindale.
You
could
trade
1713
for
1912
right
now
and
we
could
add
more
Roslindale
to
District
Five,
but
that's
not
really
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
so
from
where
I'm
speaking
to
what
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
is
clear.
H
Is
that
I
think
all
of
the
evidence
we
have
available
to
us
shows
that
there's
racialized
voting
patterns,
including
an
expert
who
says,
there's
racialized
voting
patterns
in
District
5
specifically
and
in
this
map.
All
we
do
is
make
that
problem
significantly.
Worse
and
I've
heard
multiple
people
testify
to
Mattapan
and
making
sure
that
matapan
is
not
diluted
and
I
want
to
speak
to
the
last
mayor,
who
was
here
for
redistricting,
who
also
happened
to
leave
and
live
in
District
Five,
who
submitted
a
letter.
H
H
His
issue
with
this
map
was
that
they
were
watering
down
and
diluting
mattapan's
ability
to
make
elections
and
and
select
candidates
of
their
choosing
in
District
5,
by
continuing
to
jam
it
into
District
Four,
when
seventy
percent
of
it
could
be
in
District,
Five
and
so
his
issue,
and
what
he
sent
a
whole
letter
to
the
city
council
about
and
trying
to
have
that
that
vetoed
map
was
that
he
believed
that
Mattapan
could
exercise
significant
choice
in
District
Five
if
they
remained
in
District
5
to
Simply
reverse
that
work
for
no
reason
for
for
significantly
no
reason
that
has
been
provided.
H
H
There's
no
good
reason
for
that,
and
so,
when
we're
talking
about
these
things,
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
in
good
conscience,
I
could
not
support
a
map
that
creates
that
kind
of
racialized
voting
pattern
for
District
Five
as
as
just
a
resident,
a
lifelong
resident
of
District
Five
in
the
history
of
what
they
were
trying
to
do
with
District
Five
to
Simply
reverse
that
work
and
try
to
say
well
in
the
past,
you
know
Mattapan
had
more
precincts
in
District
Four
than
they
do
now.
H
I
have
not
had
that
articulated
to
me
and
I'll,
just
close
by
saying
that,
as
we
talk
about
these
precincts
specifically
number
by
number
I'm,
not
sitting
here,
trying
to
Advocate
that
we
don't
need
to
unify
Roslindale.
In
fact,
the
enjoined
map
unified
more
Roslindale,
while
preserving
a
Mattapan
majority
in
District
5
than
this
map
does
councilor
Lara's
map,
which
I
have
supported,
does
both
of
those
things
gives
us
more
Roslindale
while
supporting
and
preserving
matapan's
voice
in
District
5.
H
I,
don't
know
how
this
would
survive
that,
and
so
I
am
trying
really
hard
to
keep
the
body
focused
I'm,
not
trying
to
make
it
about
me,
because
this
is
bigger
than
me.
I
see
this
District
as
one
of
the
most
diverse
districts
in
the
city
of
Boston,
District
5
has
had
a
number
of
changes
in
the
last
decade.
It
has
many
communities
of
Interest
there's
a
strong.
H
As
the
chair
knows,
a
strong
Haitian
American
population
there,
but
also
Mattapan,
has
asserted
its
voice
in
District
Five
to
dilute
that
doesn't
actually
unify
District
Five
when
seven
sorry
Mattapan,
when
seventy
percent
of
Mattapan
is
in
District
Five,
all
you
can
do
is
is
make
it
so
that
fifty
percent
is
there
and
fifty
percent
is
here
and
it
weakens
them
in
both,
and
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
that
we
would
continue
to
keep
those
Roslindale
precincts
in
District
Four
when,
if
we're,
if
the
whole
reason
we're
doing
that
to
Mattapan
is
because
we're
allegedly
trying
to
unify
Roslindale-
and
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
then
pack
or
put
all
of
those
precincts
specifically
when
you're
talking
about
the
matapan
precincts
that
we
already
have
here,
who
have
had
shared
Unity
with
those
other
precincts
down
near
and
around
them
out
of
that
District
I,
just
I,
think
that's
I,
think
I've
said
what
I've
needed.
B
You
thank
you.
Council,
Royal
and
I
will
just
state
that
we
have
some
data
from
from
Lisa
Hanley,
but
not
the
data
necessary
to
really
delve
into
what
happens
to
the
candidate
of
choice
for
communities
of
color
in
District
Five.
So
if
there
is
racially
wrote,
if
you
accept
that
there
is
racially
polarized
voting
in
District,
Five
I
believe
that,
under
this
map,
black
and
Latino
voters,
if
they
are
cohesive,
we'll
vote
together
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice,
so
counselor
I'm
just
going
to
move
on
to
other
s.
H
You
very
much,
but
only
for
for
a
minute,
because
I
have
to
move
on.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
It's
not
my
opinion
that
racially
polarized
voting
exists.
That
is
what
Lisa
hanley's
report
found.
I
quoted
her
report.
She
found
that
racially
polarized
voting
existed
in
both
2013
and
2019
demonstrably
in
those
election
results.
That
was
her
finding
second.
B
B
H
H
If
that's
your
stance,
then
you
should
say
that
clearly,
it's
absolutely
a
minority
opportunity
district
and
then
I
don't
understand
how
we're
going
to
actually
say
that
what
a
report
says
when
it's
the
only
report,
that's
been
done,
that
we
haven't
even
bothered
to
try
to
do
another
one
when
that
report
says
there's
racially
polarized
voting,
and
that
makes
these
findings
that
we're
just
going
to
say
well
those
findings
well,
okay,
whatever
and
then
keep
moving
on
like
that.
Doesn't.
B
H
J
The
floor,
thank
you.
So
I
really
do
appreciate.
Consulado
you're,
breaking
all
that
down
for
those
folks
who
are
tuning
in
because
I
think
it's
really
important
I'm
just
going
to
add
a
little
perspective
to
what
I
am
seeing
here
at
what
is
at
playing
and
I
said.
This
yesterday
is
that
we
are
playing
a
game
of
chairmanship
where
we're
identifying
and
switching
things
in
in
in
in
the
interest
of
not
what
is
best
for
this
community.
J
But
what
is
best
for
certain
people
and
I'm,
going
to
name
it
and
I
think
that
it's
really
uncomfortable
to
sit
in
this
space
and
see
sometimes
my
colleagues
being
disrespected
and
disregarded,
and
in
the
interest
of
who
Council
Louisiana
I'm
just
going
to
name
that
it
just
feels
a
little
bit
unbalanced
to
me
and
I
feel
like
there's
some
stuff
here,
that
we
need
to
unpack
in
terms
of
the
rules
of
the
Rules
of
Engagement.
J
That
I'm,
seeing
here
and
I,
feel
like
having
heard
from
communities
in
terms
of
kind
of
like
the
direction
that
they
want
to
move
in
I'm.
Just
curious
about
what
your
willingness
is
to
listen
to.
The
people
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
through
this,
because
what
I
don't
want
and
what
I
am
seeing
Happening
Here
is
because
a
group
of
of
my
colleagues
files
a
lawsuit
against
us
right
now.
He
switched
up
who's
going
to
be
the
the
chair
of
this.
Yes,
I
understand
and
I
respect
your
legal
ego
status.
J
I'm
gonna
be
honest
and
I'm
gonna
push
back
and
I
want
us
to
be
really
mindful
of
all
of
the
Dynamics
and
all
the
politics
that
are
at
play
right
now
and
who
is
carrying
water
for
who
here,
that's
what
I
want
to
get
at.
I
really
want
us
all
to
be
super
honest
about
how
we're
all
moving
in
the
best
interest
of
the
people
who
put
us
in
positions
that
we
are
here
to
Advocate
on
behalf
of
and
right
now,
I
need
you
to
tell
me
what
is
who
are
you
listening.
B
To
well
thank
you,
councilman,
first
of
all,
I'm
listening
to
all
of
you.
I
would
not
be
in
this
position
to
be
doing
the
new
map.
If
a
majority
of
my
colleagues
here
did
not
believe
that
I
would
be
in
the
best
position
to
do
this.
So
that's
who
I'm
listening
to
counselor
councilada,
you
not
have
the
floor,
but
you're
you're,
Mike,
I'm,.
I
Thank
you,
Council
illusion
and
I
think
in
the
interest
of
finishing
counselor
mejia's,
a
statement.
I
think
what
she
was
trying
to
say
is
that
the
majority
of
your
Council
colleagues
voted
to
move
that
ruling
to
civil
rights
under
the
impression
that
we
were
only
moving
the
ruling
and
not
the
redistricting
process,
and
so
that
I
think
she
wanted
to
clarify
the
record
that
that's
not
how
it
happened.
So
a
couple
of
things
and
I
know
that
this
is
not
typically
my
role
but
to
bring
the
temperature
down
a
little
bit
here.
I
If
we
move
514
4-1,
we
get
to
nine
one
and
eight
one
into
District
Two,
and
we
can
listen
to
the
organizations
that
have
been
advocating
to
keep
Villa
Victoria
and
Cathedral
there
if
we
move
6-1
into
D3
from
D2,
and
if
we
move-
and
this
is
you
know-
pending
counselor
Fernandez,
Anderson's
approval,
of
course,
4-7
into
D7.
Now,
if
I
I
would
like
to
have
people
take
a
look
at
it
on
the
screen.
I
If
we
start
from
the
district,
our
plan
eight
one,
eight
four,
seven
hundred
it
unifies
six
one,
and
this
is
what
it
does.
If
we
do
this,
this
is
just
from
the
map
that
was
submitted,
six
singular
precincts
and,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
see
if
there
is
any
like
around
the
edges,
but
I
think
that
this
actually
meets
all
of
the
needs
that
have
not
only
been
brought
forward
by
my
Council
colleagues,
but
that
have
also
been
brought
forward
by
the
community.
It
unified
six
one
and
six
three.
Oh
yes,.
B
Right
now,
this
is
the
current
map.
That's
up
but
I'm
listening
to
councilada.
K
I
I
AM
I
AM
I
District
three,
as
as
planned,
unifies
the
bojan
vote
in
Geneva
neighborhood,
which
we
heard
people
testify
about
today.
It
maintains
Adam
Village
and
Cedar
Grove
in
District
three,
as
was
a
concern
of
my
Council
colleague,
councilor
Baker.
It
unifies
West
Roxbury.
It
has
Roslindale
in
two
districts
instead
of
three,
it
keeps
70
of
matapan
united
in
District
Five
public
housing
in
South
Boston
is
Unified
with
public
housing
in
the
South,
End
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
other
concerns
that
councilor
Baker
had
were
particularly
about
what
we've
been
considering.
I
The
boot
and
I
just
want
to
reference.
Lawyers
for
civil
rights
comments
about
1713
and
1714.,
so
I've
been
making
the
case
that
1714
and
1713
are
actually
both
considered
to
be
Lower
Mills
and
that
by
unifying
17,
7,
13
and
714,
we
can
unify
that
community
of
interest
in
Lower,
Mills
and
secondarily
meet
with
when
making
a
decision
between
moving
it
to
District
three
to
District
Four.
We
can
ultimately
also
unify
Ward,
17.
I
know
that
councilor
Baker
was
concerned
about
doing
that.
I
But
I
think
lawyers
for
civil
rights
is
correct,
that
we
were
told
that
we
couldn't
use
race
as
the
predominant
reason
to
move
the
boot,
but
they
didn't
say
that
we
couldn't
move
the
boot
and
I
think
that
when
we're
following
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting,
unifying
1713
1714
as
Lower
Mills
and
unifying
Ward,
17
holds
up
legally
in
court.
For
for
why
we
are
moving
the
boot
into
District,
Four
I.
I
Think
in
addition
to
that,
councilor
Baker
also
had
concerns
about
District
3
sprawling
up
into
the
south
end,
and
if
we
move
514,
4191
and
8-1
into
District
2
to
unify
eight
one
and
nine
one,
as
we've
been
hearing
from
folks
in
D2
that
it
kind
of
solved
some
of
that
problem,
it
takes
District
3
out
of
the
south
end.
If
counselor
Fernandez
Anderson
is
okay
with
taking
taking
four
seven
I
think
that
we
can
listen
to
to
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten.
I
We
can
listen
to
the
Coalition
and
the
feedback
that
they've
gotten
that
feedback
that
they've
given
us
is
reflected
here.
We
can
also
listen
to
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
our
Council
colleagues.
The
population
deviation
if
we
do.
This
is
4.26
and
the
difference
between
the
lowest
populated
district
and
the
highest
populated
district
is
8.5
percent,
which
is
within
the
allowable
limit
of
10
percent
as
well.
I
I
know
that
6-1
is
a
South
Boston,
Precinct
and
I
know
that
that
doesn't
necessarily
put
South,
Boston
or
unified
South
Boston
whole
and
I
know
that
counselor
Flynn
has
talked
about
wanting
that
the
police
station
is
there
and
that
he
wanted
that
part
of
his
district
also
to
be
unified
in
South
Boston,
but
unfortunately,
I.
I
Don't
think
that
we
can
both
keep
6-1
and
unify
the
public
housing
in
District,
2
and
so
I
think
that
that's
part
of
the
conversation
that
we
should
have
I
would
like
to
show
folks
what
it
looks
like,
because
I
think
that
it
does
all
of
that,
with
still
only
keeping
the
changes
to
the
districts
that
we
were
directed
to
by
the
judge.
As.
B
Well,
thank
you
councilada
and
councilada.
Do
you
have
a
district
R
number
for
that?
Or
can
you
send
a
district
our
number
for
that?
Yes,
okay,
get
the
district
and
we
will
we
will
put
it
up.
Should.
B
E
E
Eight
one
is
Cathedral
Blakely
BHA
Apartments
9-1
Villa
Victoria,
along
with
West
Adams
Street,
which
has
a
BHA
development.
So
I
am
the
person
that
recommended
putting
those
two
precincts
into
into
District
Two
I,
just
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that
and
I
appreciate
people's
testimony.
Advocating
for
that
and
and
it's
good
it's
very
good
testimony.
But
I
was
the
one
that
wanted
to
make
sure
that
eight
one
in
one
eight
one
and
nine
one
is
a
critical
part
of
of
District
two
large
immigrant
community
large
person
of
color
Community
as
well.
E
A
lot
Asian
latinx
African-American
play
a
critical
role
in
the
in
the
cell
event.
6-1
is
also
a
critical
part
of
of
of
South
Boston
as
well
the
diverse,
a
diverse
Community.
My
the
goal
of
the
residents
in
public
housing
throughout
South
Boston
was
always
to
ensure
that
South
Boston
public
housing
BHA
was
United.
They
have
a
lot
in
interest
during
the
pandemic.
I
focused
a
lot
on
food
access,
making
sure
immigrant
communities
had
access
to
food
during
difficult
times.
E
I
have
several
public
schools
in
the
public
housing
developments,
including
the
continent,
including
the
including
the
Perkins
Muriel
and
McCormick
West
Broadway,
also
West
9th
Street
in
Lynch
Old
Colony,
they're
they're
important
Neighbors
in
South
Boston.
They
bring
out
the
best
in
in
US
in
their
critical
part
of
South
Boston
I.
Don't
want
to
exclude
and
divide
the
community
that
the
the
public
housing
developments
in
South
Boston
predominantly
are
people
of
color
and
they
are
part
of
South
Boston.
E
They
have
residents
of
South
Boston
I,
don't
want
to
separate
them
from
from
the
community
in
public
housing.
Tenants
deserve
to
be
treated
with
respect
and
dignity
during
this
process,
West
9th
Street
BHA
is
also
there
and
that's
a
that's
a
diverse
District.
That's
a
diverse
housing
development
made
up
mostly
of
seniors
in
persons
with
disabilities.
So
Madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
a
couple
minutes
to
respond.
B
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
wanted
to
to
see.
Has
anyone
submitted
a
map
because
I
keep
on
hearing
that
70
of
Mattapan
is
in
District
Four?
Has
anyone
presented
that
data,
because
the
map
that
I'm
taking
a
look
at
now
has
40
40.2
percent
of
mattapan's
population
inside
of
District
4
59.8,
59.8
percent
in
District
Five?
Yes,
so
I
do
agree
that
you
know
there's
more
of
Mattapan
inside
of
District
Five,
but
according
to
my
records
and
it's
this,
it
could
get
even
more
generous.
M
If
you're
taking
a
look
at
the
bpdas
map,
it
will
be
having
more
of
a
percentage
in
District
Four.
But
has
anyone
submitted
that
data
to
the
chair
showing
that
70
of
Mattapan
is
in
District
Four.
B
I,
don't
have
that
data
and
I
also
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
like
we've
heard
public
testimony
regarding
the
Mattapan
question
on
both
sides
talk
to
former
city
councilors,
who
represent
D4,
so
it
there
does
seem
to
be
what
is
natural
that
the
desire
to
keep
matapan
in
two
districts
in
District
Four
and
in
District
Five
Council
letter.
You
have
the
floor.
Thank.
B
AM
Zoom
into
sorry,
South,
Boston,
6-1
I'm,
just
making
sure
that
it's
there
yes,
so
it's
in
D2
on
this
map
correct.
I
It's
Indy
two
yep,
it's
in
D2,
okay,
great
so,
okay,
I
get
I
I
get
so
I
would
I
would
just
let's
just
do
them
on
here,
so
that
people
can
see
how
it
moves.
I!
Think
that
if
I
just
save
it
on
here,
maybe
it'll
change
it
for
the
link
that
I've
sent,
but
I
can
go
through
just
for
the
purpose
of
public
of
the
public.
Who
is
watching
to
see
what
the
changes
are.
I
Shane,
are
you
making
the
changes
or
is
Emily
making
the
change?
Okay.
Thank
you.
Emily.
Sorry,
I
don't
mean
to
make
requests
so
for
moving
in
as
it
is
now
moving
into
District
Two,
5
14.
AM
I
AM
T
I
B
I
A
I
Okay,
there
we
go
so
I
think
one
for
example,
right
I
think
that
counselor,
Legion
and
councilor
warrell
have
been
like
I,
think
you're
right,
you've
heard
testimony
about
matapan
from
both
directions.
My
the
argument
that
I
am
trying
to
make
is
because
the
border
of
Four
right-
this
is
population
balance
right.
I
The
border
of
District,
4
and
District
Five
was
not
identified
as
an
issue
area
in
the
ruling
from
the
judge,
and
so
we've
heard
testimony
from
both
sides
and
so
for
me,
if
we're
going
to
make
changes
right
at
that
border,
when
it's
not
necessary
when
we're
balanced
by
population
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
reasoning
is
being
made
in
alignment
with
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting
and
so
Council
Worrell
made
a
question
about
you
know:
where
do
we
have
those
numbers?
Councilor
Arroyo
is
not
here.
He
certainly
has
those
numbers.
I
I
did
the
math
myself
and
I.
Don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
there
are,
as
it
stands
only
three
precincts
so
for
Mattapan
and
district
four
and
six
that
are
in
so
I
have
I
know
he
has
the
numbers
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
him,
but
I'm
sure
that
that
can
be
given
to
the
body.
There's
I
want
to
say,
like
15,
000
people
or
something
of
the
sort,
and
that
was
only
for
the
precincts
that
are
all
of
Mattapan.
I
So
we
didn't
even
count
the
precincts
that
were
partially
metapan,
but
mostly
Dorchester,
because
we
didn't
want
to
like
inflate
the
numbers.
So
I
do
for
me.
I
think
that
right,
there's
councilor
baker
has
his
light
on,
and
so
I
know
that
there's
concerns
there,
but
I
do
think
that
keeping
1713
and
1714
is
legally
defensible
by
making
the
but
making
the
case
at
court.
We
keep
the
public
housing
Villa
Victoria,
eight
one
and
9-1
together,
district,
seven
district,
six,
District
Five
and
we
make
the
minimal
amount
of
changes.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
I,
also
thank
you
for
this,
offering
I
wanted
to
also
state
that
my
original
map
had
1713
in
District,
Four
and
part
of
this
is
in
working
together
with
colleagues
in
determining
what
map
we
can
have.
I
think
changes
are
legal
legally
defensible,
but
we
also
know
that
we
as
a
body
have
to
agree
on
a
map
and
so
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
counselor
Baker
for
any.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
One
of
the
comments
that
the
judge
said
when
we
established
a
baseline
map.
She
said
in
this
in
the
city
lawyers
that
we
all
paid
for
I
paid
on
that
side.
Also
as
a
taxpayer.
F
The
city
lawyers
could
not
answer
the
question.
If
you,
if
District
3,
only
needed
1600
People
based
off
the
Baseline
map,
1600
people
to
get
to
the
minimum
where
we
needed
to
be.
F
in
in
2011,
when
I
ran,
there
were
two
females
of
color
that
come
out
of
those
those
precincts.
Andrea
Campbell
comes
out
of
that
Precinct.
That
would
also
get
me
out
of
the
south
end.
F
So,
if
we're
going
to
start
talking
about
reuniting
give
me
my
give
me
my
district
back
to
where
it
was
10
years
ago
and
give
me
Lower,
Mills
Saint
Greg's
Parish
by
the
way
for
anybody,
who's
wondering
Saint,
Greg's,
Parish,
I,
just
I,
so
how
much
I've
heard
people
complain
about
one
and
two
changes
over
here
now
here
it
is
I've
got
seven
new
precincts
up
in
the
South
End
in
places
like
that
which
are
great,
but
don't
necessarily
jive
with
Fields
Corner
and
Saint,
Marks
and
and
and-
and
you
know,
Adam's
corner
and
even
Lower
Mills
for
that
for
that
matter.
F
So
what
I'm
asking
is?
Please
leave
my
Southern
border
alone.
I'll
grow
to
the
north,
where
you
guys
want
me
to
grow
in
the
north,
but
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think.
I
should
again
have
to
take
the
Lion's
Share
of
all
of
all
this
here,
no
need
to
go
at
17,
17
13..
That
should
stay
in
District
three.
It
completes
Dorchester
Ave,
it
completes
an
upon
Greenway
and
also
the
Neponset
River
boundaries.
F
E
Thank
you
Madam,
chair
yesterday,
when
we
were
working
on
on
this
map,
we
were.
We
were
very
close
to
having
something
in
in
good
order,
and
it
seems
now
that
we're
we're
we're
hearing
we're
hearing
people
across
across
the
state
really
on
on
social
media.
But
this
really
is
a
decision
that
should
be
made
by
city.
Council
is
with
input
from
residents,
but
we
had
a
plan
yesterday
that
we
were
ready
to
discuss
today
and
all
of
a
sudden
that
plan
seems
like
it's
slipping
away.
E
I
just
want
us
to
get
back
to
us,
working
together,
listening
to
each
other,
respecting
each
other
compromising.
If,
if
you
have
one
or
two
precincts
that
you're
willing
to
give
up
or
take
that's
that's
critical.
Every
every
District
counselor
should
be
on
board
with
that
come
up
with
one
or
two
precincts
that
you're
willing
to
give
up
and
to
take-
and
it's
it's
it's
about.
E
It's
about
a
give
and
take
it's
about
compromise
in
working
with
each
other
focus
on.
What's
working
and
not
not
the
negatives
all
the
time,
but
we
need
to
come
together.
We
have
less
than
24
hours
and
it's
time
to
put
politics
aside
and
do
what's
best
for
the
people
of
Boston.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
B
You
cousin
president
Flynn
councilman
here
thank.
J
You
chair,
I,
just
want
to
State
for
the
record
that
you
know
in
regards
to
my
colleague,
stating
that
we
paid
our
studied
taxes
for
representation.
I
would
have
to
beg
to
differ
on
that
point.
I
really
don't
feel
like
the
city
really
represented
all
of
us
in
that
situation,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
decisions
that
were
being
made
without
us.
In
that
lawsuit.
J
We
didn't
even
were
even
even
asked
to
testify
so
that
whole
lawsuit
really
did
not
give
counselors
of
color
in
particular
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
decisions
we
made
and
and
why
so
I
just
want
to
make
note
for
the
record
for
those
who
are
listening,
that,
while
those
tax
dollars
we
did
pay,
but
there
was
it
feels
like
representation
without
a
real
representation
there.
So
I
just
want
to
note
that
for
the
record
and
counselor
Flynn
I
really
do
appreciate.
This
whole
notion
that
we
were
close
to
something
yesterday.
J
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
want
to
thank
councilor
Baker
and
president
Flynn
for
their
comments.
I
think
I
think
we
are
working
together.
I
think
the
district
2
reflects
very
much
what
I've
heard
from
both
president
Flynn
and
his
constituents
here
on
the
Boston
city
council,
and
it's
not
any
way
different
from
where
we
were
yesterday
either
so
I
think
I,
I,
agree
and
I
think
that
this
is
in
alignment
with
what
you
were
hoping
to
see
and
I.
Think
in
terms
of
counselor
Baker.
I
I
There
are
your
Council
colleagues
who
are
on
the
floor
here
who
want
to
keep
South
Boston
unified,
and
so
that
really
limits
us
into
what
direction
we
can
move
if
you
need
to
grow,
and
so
this
is
not
meant
to
be
a
slight
and
I
understand
all
of
your
all
of
the
arguments
that
you're
making
in
support
of
keeping
1713
there.
But
what
you've
mentioned
when
I
think
about
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting?
It
doesn't
at
all
stop
us
from
moving
1713
and
1714
over
or
making
sure
we.
I
We
have
an
opportunity
to
unite
a
community
of
Interest
similar
to
in
raw
to
similar
to
Rosendale.
The
South
End
is
not
in
any
map
going
to
be
whole
or
unified,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
for
South
Boston
to
be
as
unified
as
possible
and
so
making
the
consideration
of
keeping
one
Community
whole.
Instead
of
keeping
two
communities
fractured
is
kind
of
where
I'm
at
now,
president
Flynn
and
councilor
Florida
are
talking
about
wanting
to
collaborate.
I
If
you
don't
want
to
move
into
the
south
end,
and
you
feel
like
you
want
to
move
into
South,
Boston
and
they're
willing
to
split,
then
I
think
that
we
can
have
that
conversation
here
on
the
floor,
but
right
now,
I
think
that
this
is
the
direction
that
we
have
to
move
in
and
I
think
that
it
keeps
all
the
communities
of
Interest
together
and
I
also
think
that
it's
not
just
in
alignment
with
what
people
are
looking
here
for
their
districts.
I
think
I
would
like
to
hear
from
counselors.
I
You
know
like
it's,
eight
nine
seven
like
what
are
the
pain
points
of
what's
here
and
how
we
can
Rectify
them,
because,
right
now
it
feels
like
it
feels
like
we're
really
close
I,
don't
actually
feel
like
there's
like
we're
really
far
away.
I
actually
feel
like
this
is
really
close
to
what
y'all
are
asking
for.
I
What
changes
would
you
make
that
are
in
alignment
with
those
principles
and
what
is
the
argument
that
we're
gonna
make
ultimately
about
why
we
want
to
make
those
changes
based
on
what
is
here,
I
think
that
councilority
submitted
a
map
I
submitted
a
map
constellation
submitted
a
map
mayor
Wu,
submitted
a
map
to
for
this
body
for
consideration
and
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
make
six
Precinct
changes
and
kind
of
get
to
a
place
where
it
feels
good
I
think
is
good
for
the
body
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
people
give
it
a
chance
and
if
there
are
actual
pain,
points
or
changes
that
you
would
like
to
see.
I
B
Thank
you
councilada
and
I
just
want
to
also
just
thank
my
colleagues.
I.
Do
think
that
the
work
that
we
have
been
doing
throughout
the
week
is
reflective
and
sort
of
building
towards
a
consensus
on
a
short
time
frame.
I
I
see
here,
the
differences
are
the
differences
that
have
we've
seen
the
biggest
discussion
on
the
14,
the
D4
D5
line
and
the
boot
and
president
Flynn,
who
has
expressed
a
desire
to
keep
public
housing
United
so
I.
B
Thank
you
for
this,
offering
I
know
that
others
will
have
thoughts
and
opinions
to
speak
on
at
the
moment.
I
do
want
to
go
back
to
the
map
that
we
have
been
building
on,
but
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
now
again.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
a
lot
of
the
communities
of
interest
that
we've
heard
from
8191
are
together
in
D2
here
and
this
map.
At
the
end
of
yesterday's
hearing,
when
we
moved
four
seven
into
D7,
that's
where
that
was
first
offered,
and
so
we
have
that
reflected.
B
Negotiating
what
the
bot,
what
makes
most
sense
and
so
I
wanted
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anyone
else,
counselor
Braden,
if
you
have
at.
L
The
question
Madam
chair
in
the
enacted
map
and
and
then
on
your
first
iteration
of
your
map,
1807
and
1912,
were
in
District
Five.
B
Yes,
well,
those
were
I.
Think
again
when
we
were
thinking
about
how
do
we
make
this
work
population
wise?
How
do
we
take
into
consideration
what
counselors
are
looking
for?
1912
and
1802?
Is
that
right?
No
1912
and
1807
yeah
were
on
Baseline
map,
part
of
District
Four,
and
so
you
see
a
reversion
to
that
here.
L
B
Yeah
she's
talking
about
1912
and
1807.,
okay
councilor
out
yeah.
M
So
Castleberry
those
are
my
current
District
Lines,
1912
and
1807..
That's
currently
in
my
district,
yeah
and
1912
is
Jamaica.
Plain
in
1807
is
a
small
portion
of
Matt
apparent,
but
also
Jamaica
Plain
as
well,
and
those
1912
is
is
predominantly
white.
Population
1807
is,
is
a
combination
of
both
and
I.
Don't
think
moving
those
back
into
my
district,
where
they're
currently
at
are
affecting
the
competitiveness
of
of
District
Five.
L
I
think
you
know
just
looking
at
the
the
what
what
voting
age
population
that
we
have
just
the
the
moves
that
we're
making.
We
just
have
to
be
very
careful
that
we
don't
actually
at
some,
as
many
have
already
stated,
that
we
don't
make
District
Five
an
opportunity
District
and
we
remove
that
capacity
to
be
an
opportunity
and
District
3
is
is
not
technically
Dr.
L
Dr
Hanley
said
that
District
3
is
not
effectively
a
an
opportunity
District,
because
even
though
it's
a
majority
minority
district,
there
isn't
voter
cohesion
there.
So
they
don't
have
an
effective
opportunity
District
in
District
three,
so
I
think
we
have
to
just
be
very
careful
that
we
don't
further
degree
and
our
opportunity
to
have
four
yeah
four
Opera
two
majority
minority
black
districts
and
and
an
opera
two
opportunity
districts
in
Boston.
B
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
looking
at
my
notes,
did
I
hear:
was
there
a
constituent
one
of
the
folks
testifying
earlier
today
it
referenced
if
I'm
correct
me
if
I'm
not
wrong
too
and
again
through
the
chair,
it
goes
obviously
to
my
to
my
colleague
from
District
7.
G
with
someone
suggesting
that
we
swap
four
seven
with
ten
five,
so
that
four
seven
would
go
to
d8
and
10-5
would
go
to
D7,
and
if
that
is,
if
that's
my
accurate
understanding
of
what
that
the
resident
was
suggesting,
I
guess
what
does
that
look
like
in
terms
of
all
the
numbers.
H
G
B
B
You
Council
Flaherty,
council
fernandison.
Did
you
have
something
that
you
wanted
to
state.
K
So,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
K
I've
tried
to
be
as
patient
as
possible
because
I
feel
like
the
entire
process,
is
one
that
you
have
to
look
at
in
dominant
an
abdominal
effect,
so
one
District
propels
into
the
other
or
impacts
together
and
in
the
interest
of
working
together
and
putting
together
a
cohesive
map
and
getting
to
a
solution,
one
that
is
Equitable
one.
That
follows
the
judge's
recommendations,
as
well
as
the
protocols
that
we
are
supposed
to
follow
here.
K
I
I've
been
trying
to
reserve
my
comments
because
it's
difficult
because
because
I
know
that
within
the
process
I
give
you
an
example,
it's
it's
almost
like
it's
almost
like
as
you
evolve
or
develop
as
a
person.
You
couldn't
judge
yourself
at
20,
because
you
know
at
30
it's
something
else,
and
then
you
couldn't
judge
yourself
at
30,
because
you
know
what
40
is
something
else,
and
so
it's
interesting
that
we
become
really
reactionary
and
emotional
about
protecting
our
communities
and
keeping
our
neighborhoods
together
and
that's
a
plausible.
K
But
looking
at
the
whole
map,
like
you,
couldn't
just
ask
me,
what
do
I
think
about
four
seven,
if
you
say
four,
seven
I'll
say
well,
four,
seven
and
four
twelve
consolidates
with
4-8
and
that's
keeping
a
community
together
or
neighborhood
together.
Saint
Patel
will
then
be
more
consolidated,
but
then,
if
you
say
to
me,
taking
10-5
as
Casey,
one
of
the
public
testimony
constituents
referred
to
is
going
into
Mission
Hill,
and
that
would
be
splitting
it
into
now.
K
Three
different
counselors
I
already
have
some
of
that
I'm
already
I
already
have
some
housing
in
that
in
Mission.
Hill
I
already
have
a
part
of
that.
However,
the
issue
here
is
that
everyone
is
okay
with
taking
something,
but
then
when
it
comes
to
giving
something,
it
becomes
a
problem,
and
so
when
you
look
at,
for
example,
like
all
of
the
large
counselors
here
can
easily
just
you
know
say
this
that
this
that
and
say
we're
doing
what
the
protocol
States.
K
I
don't
understand
if
we're
supposed
to
keep
this
precincts
that
were
historically
belonging
to
a
certain
District.
Why
are
you
making
those
moves
between
D5
and
D4
I'm
I?
Don't
understand
that
I?
Don't
understand,
I,
don't
understand
if
we're
supposed
to
keep
precincts
that
are
historically
in
a
certain
District
in
that
District
we're
supposed
to
be
able
to
conserve
that.
Why
are
we
taking?
Why
are
we
making
those
moves
between
D3
and
D4
that
I
have
a
problem
with
and
then
the
changes
with
Roslindale?
K
Obviously
that's
an
issue
for
me
and
then,
when
you
go
into
D3
if
D3
needs
to
gain-
and
all
of
this
is
because
D3
needs
to
gain
and
D2
needed
to
shed.
But
then
certain
communities
here
in
this
process
have
been
heard.
The
court
case
recommended
a
certain
thing:
people
had
money
to
fund
the
court
case
and
had
that
been
in
a
disenfranchised
community.
That
might
have
not
been
the
case,
because
we
know
that
historically
communities
of
Interest
raised
less
money.
K
So
if
they
have
money
they
can
go
to
court
and
if
they
couldn't
go
to
court
and
have
influence,
then
they
can
get
heard.
Even
in
this
process,
even
as
counselors
when
I
said
to
you,
can
you
please
is
this
a
working
session?
You
said
yes,
can
you
please
move
so
I
can
see
it
also
I
still
can't
see
it.
The
map
is
like
way
too
far
away,
but
I
said.
K
Can
you
please
move
it
and
you
said
no
and
then
someone
else
said
it
no
and
then
I
repeated
myself
and
then
I
quoted
Jonathan
Cohn
and
then
it
was
like.
Well,
maybe,
but
then
today
my
colleagues
say
move
things
and
you
do
it
and
that
hurts
that
hurts
so
I
feel
I
honestly
do
see
that
some
communities
can
Advocate
strongly
and
some
can't
and
even
in
this
District
me
as
the
person
that
I
am
even
in
this
process.
K
B
There's
we
just
haven't
had
that
in
order
to
move
an
entire
neighborhood
and
so
I
apologize
the
for
the
minute
that
I
heard
four
seven
I
actually
don't
know
where
it
came
from
and
I
was
nervous
because
I
didn't
think
it
was
going
to
population
balance,
but
then
it
did
and
I
was
like.
That
is
a
great
idea.
B
Thank
you
for
offering
and
so
I
apologize
if
it
was
seen
as
anything
other
than
that,
I
have
been
trying-
and
you
know
this
to
really
respect
the
Roxbury
line
and
I
have
done
that
when
other
people
have
said
it
would
be
very
easy.
If
all
we
did
was
go
into
Roxbury,
if
all
we
did
was
do
that
and
I
have
said
and
I
have
talked
to
you
about
it,
and
I
did
everything
that
I
could,
as
is
reflected
in
this
map,
to
reflect
to
to
respect
that
line.
K
You
want
to
thank
you.
Mayor,
Wu
was
willing
to
go
into,
Roxbury
was
willing
to
split
mess
up,
Mattapan
was
willing
to
split
the
back
of
the
hill,
was
willing
to
split
Mission.
Hill
was
willing
to
do
a
lot
of
damage
like
the
map
was
ridiculous
and
that's
my
opinion
right.
K
The
map
was
ridiculous
and
then,
when
you,
your
map
and
Council
Lara's
map
happens
to
be
the
two
that
obviously
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
practical
moves
right
and
what
I'm
saying
is,
you
are
saying
yes,
keep
Roxbury
intact,
I,
don't
have
all
of
Roxbury
still
I
have
probably
90
of
it.
The
district
7
does
we
went
into
South
End
so
that
we
can
fix
the
damage
with
D3.
If
there's
no
need
to
go
into
Mission
Hill,
there's
no
need
to
go
into
Mission
Hill.
K
My
conversation
about
Mission
Hill
was
my
way
of
being
open
to
the
compromise
to
what
needs
to
happen.
So
every
District
can
be
okay,
so
neighborhoods
can
stay
together.
That
was
my
suggestion.
I
don't
have
the
district
7
doesn't
have
a
need
to
go
into
Mission
Hill.
This
recycling
doesn't
have
a
need
to
go
further
into
Back
Bay
I,
don't
I
would
even
know
I,
wouldn't
even
District
Seven
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
connect
or
relate
to
Back
Bay.
K
K
This
D3
is
doing
everything
D3
needs,
South
Boston
is
doing
everything
South
Boston
needs.
Chinatown
is
getting
what
they
want.
South
End
getting
what
they
want.
So
why
would
anybody
even
suggest
not
keeping
Roxbury
together?
So
thank
you
for
that,
but
then
I'm
saying
to
you
in
terms
of
overall
the
overall
map
and
I'm
sorry.
This
is
the
first
time
I'm
talking
like
really
talking
and
so
hang
tight,
be
patient.
Yesterday
I
was
being
rushed
so
like
to
my
colleagues.
K
If
this,
if
this
bothers
you
don't
weaponize
our
conversation,
don't
start
talking
about
how
we
are
being
negative,
because
everybody's
talking
in
a
civil
tone,
everyone
is
just
voicing
their
position.
But
when
you
start
talking,
when
our
colleagues
start
talking
about
their
position,
no
one
is
weaponizing
them
and
saying
this
is
negative.
This
is
this,
and
this
is
that,
oh,
this
is
a
clown
show.
No
one
is
talking
about
the
other.
K
The
the
our
colleagues
like
that,
if,
if
you've
given
D1,
what
D1
is
advocated
for
and
you've
given
D2
what
D2
has
advocated
for
you
have
you've
given
D1
what
a
D1
advocated
for
you've
advocated
what
D2
wanted
you
you've
given
you're
giving
D3
what
D3
wants
you
are
consolidating
you're,
keeping
Roxbury
together,
think
I.
Thank
you.
K
I'm
grateful
you're,
giving
d
a
and
they're
advocating
they're,
not
even
here
and
then
you're,
giving
D4
what
D4
wants,
but
when
it
comes
to
D5
it's
like
eh,
that's
the
sacrifice,
even
if
D7
goes
all
the
way
up
to
80
000
people
and
D5
in
D4
will
be
at
71
000..
K
K
Either
we
take
more
time
or
tomorrow
you
will
vote
seven
and
then
you
risk
it
possibly
being
a
lawsuit
or
we
have
a
conversation,
and
you
ask
be,
let's
be
brave
and
ask
each
other
open
up
a
little.
Let's
look
at
D5.
If
that's
really,
if
that's
really
a
bad
compromise,
let's
try
to
work
so
that
we
can
make
D5
okay,
too
and
I'm.
Just
asking
everybody
take
a
deep
breath
at
the
end
of
the
day,
my
goodness,
it's
a
job.
J
You
chair
and
thank
you
to
councilor
Anderson
for
inviting
us
to
be
vulnerable
and
to
be
fully
expressed
here
in
this
process,
because
this
is
a
very
emotional
exercise.
J
We're
talking
about
people's
lives
here
for
decades
to
come
and
I
think
the
decisions
that
we
make
today
will
have
a
lasting
impact
and
I'm
still
really
struggling
with
the
compromises
that
we're
making
and
who
are
the
casualties
of
the
decisions
that
are
being
presented
and
I'm
still
struggling.
When
I
look
at
the
Dynamics
about
where
people
are
lining
up-
and
you
know
we're
we're
we're
we're
encouraged
not
to
talk
about
the
Dynamics
of
race.
J
However,
if
I'm
looking
at
who
it
is
that
we're
aligning
ourselves
up
with
you
know,
considering
counselor
Coletta's
D1
Consular
Flynn
is
D2
just
like
really
looking
at
the
the
color
Dynamics
about
where
the
situation
is
moving
towards.
It
feels
a
little
bit
like
I
I'm,
not
sure
who
it
is
that
we're
really
here
to
you
know
what
what
that
looks
like
so
I'm
just
going
to
ask
again,
like
I,
did
last
week,
I'm
going
to
ask
again
today.
J
Why
are
we
leaning
into
District,
Five
I,
just
I,
still
have
not
yet
understood
your
reasoning
for
bringing
us
back
to
the
status
quo
of
what
I
heard
some
of
my
colleagues,
you
mentioned
I'm,
just
still
so
confused
as
to
what
is
at
play,
if
you
could
just
clearly
for
the
record
help
me
understand
why
we
are
messing
with
District
Five.
B
Thank
you,
cousin,
Mia,
there's
a
population
issue
when
you
address
the
Constitution
violation,
and
so
you
go
back
to
the
historical
nature
of
where
District
4
was,
and
so
that's
why
we
all
know
that
District,
4
and
District
5
is
where
the
conversation
is
and
there's
Mattapan
on
both
sides.
So
I
hope
that
addresses.
J
No,
it
doesn't
I'm,
sorry
and
maybe
I'm
a
little
bit
slow,
so
I
really
need
you
to
unpack
a
little
bit
further
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna.
No,
because
it's
not
fair.
If
you
want
me
to
make
an
educated
vote
in
an
educated
decision,
it
is
your
responsibility
as
the
chair
to
help
me
understand
the
process.
So
I
don't
think
it
is
fair
for
you
again
to
shut
down
my
mic
because
I'm
asking
questions
for
me
to
be
able
to
understand
the
Dynamics
here.
J
I'm
confused
is
the
whole
exercise
was
the
fact
that
D2
had
an
overpopulation
and
needed
to
shed
and
D3
needed
to
absorb
some
folks.
So
that
was
the
underlying
kind
of
guiding
principles
when
we
walked
into
this
conversation
in
terms
of
how
we
were
going
to
eat.
J
This
elephant
is
one
little
piece
at
a
time
and
now
I
feel
like
we
have
gone
totally
the
whole
different
direction
and
if
my
colleague
laid
it
out
really
clear
that
in
the
last
thing
effort
we
were
able
to
make
District
Five
a
historically,
you
know
to
make
it
an
opportunity
District.
Why
are
we
then
undoing
that
work.
B
L
Council
Braden
has
the
floor.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
You
know
one
one
concern
that
that
I
have
is
that
by
in
messing
no
messing
by
rearranging
District
Five.
L
L
District
I
think
your
original
offering
increased
the
black
population
in
District
4
by
4.7
percent
and
in
the
and
in
District
Five
District
district
five,
the
black
population
went
down
by
3.9
percent
and
I
think
that
this
The
Advocates
are
saying
that
they
fought
really
hard
to
get
an
opportunity
District
in
District
five
ten
years
ago,
and
they
really
don't
want
to
let
that
go
because
the
feeling
that
we're
sort
of
going
backwards
in
terms
of
that
opportunity,
District
so
and
I
think
you
know
for
me
personally.
L
I
think
really
this
issue,
but
1414
we've
heard
many
Advocates
this
afternoon
say
that
they
want
to
keep
1414
in
District,
Five
and
I.
Think
that's
the
Crux
of
the
matter
in
terms
of
that
black
population
and
then
the
district
District,
81
and
9-1
in
the
South
End
in
District
Two.
That's
that's
the
court.
L
When
they're
in
Coalition
with
Chinatown,
you
have
a
broad
Coalition
of
Hispanic
and
China
Chinese
residents
there
and
then
Precinct,
16,
1
and
16-3
from
moving
from
District
3
to
District
district
four
to
District
three,
that's
the
that's
the
uniting
the
Vietnamese
American
Community,
that's
good!
These
are
the
things
we
worked
on
all
last
fall
and
then
I
I,
don't
really
want
to
speak
to
the
precincts.
But
we
had
a
conversation
yesterday
about
Precinct
four
six
at
the
Prudential
Center
that
it
should.
L
It
should
be
in
District
theater
as
a
way
to
read
it
redistribute
population
out
of
District
Two
and,
if
and
of
District
Seven
I'll
leave
it
to
my
colleague,
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson,
to
see
if
she
needs
to
pick
up
any
population.
But
there
are.
L
There
are
some
precincts
in
that
area
that
wouldn't
wouldn't
disrupt
the
situation
too
much
I,
just
I
just
feel
we
are
so
close
and
if
we
try
and
and
stick
to
the
ideas
of
making
as
few
as
few
changes
as
possible,
I
I
think
the
the
suggestions
of
The
Advocates
and
the
folks
that
were
wed
in
this
afternoon
were
very
valuable
and
we're
not
that
far
away
1414.
He
had
one
nine
one
Seven
Seventeen
thirteen,
sixteen
one,
sixteen
three
and
we're
pretty
close
to
getting
to
where
we
need
to
be.
L
B
You
councilor,
Braden
I,
agree:
I,
think
that
we
are
close,
I,
think
councilada
you're
on
the
floor.
Thank.
I
You,
madam
chair
I,
just
given
councilor
Braden's
comments
and
one
I
agree
so
I
just
want
to
Echo
councilor
breeden's
comments
and
I.
Think
the
response
to
councilmania
had
a
very
clear
question
about
why
we're
moving
into
District,
Five
and
I
understand
the
argument
of
one
that
it
creates
a
population
in
Balance.
But
the
map
that
I
presented
to
the
body
just
a
few
minutes
ago
does
not
have
that
population
in
balance
and
so
we've.
I
There
is
something
here
in
front
of
us
that
is
balanced
population
wise
that
meets
all
of
the
requirements
that
we
have
to
meet
and
does
not
move
us
into
districts
that
we
that
we
don't
have
to
move
into.
I
think
we've
heard
from
at
least
five
counselors
now
that
are
uncomfortable
with
making
changes
to
the
D4
D5
line.
I've
heard
two
counselors
advocate
for
making
those
changes.
I
There
is
an
option
in
front
of
us
that
shows
that
you
can
balance
population
without
touching
that
line,
and
so
I
wanna
I
am
calling
on
us
to
go
back
and
revisit
given.
Who
are
we
are
here?
As
you
said,
this
is
something
that
we
need.
People
to
vote
for
and
to
get
in
line
for
there
are
at
least
five
counselors
here
who
are
saying?
I
No,
we
can't
do
it
and
we've
been
saying
it
for
the
last
hearings,
but
I
think
it's
been
a
hypothetical
and
now
we've
been
able
to
see
a
map
in
front
of
us.
That
shows
that
you
can
balance
the
population.
You
can
make
the
changes
that
you
need
to
make
following
the
judge's
ruling
without
actually
touching
The
District,
4,
District,
5
line
and
I
think
that
we
should
consider.
J
Thank
you,
chair
and
I
I
just
want
to
Echo.
My
colleague
in
terms
of
like
I,
believe
that
we
all
have
to
have
a
can-do
attitude,
and
what
this
moment
calls
for
is
for
us
to
do
everything
in
our
power
to
reach
consensus.
It
would
be
a
really
bad
look
to
have
all
of
the
counselors
of
color
on
one
side
and
all
the
other
councils
on
the
other
side.
J
So
I
think
that
in
the
interest
of
really
finding
some
consensus,
let's
all
roll
in
the
same
direction,
on
the
best
interests
of
our
community
and
I
have
yet
to
really
fully
understand
and
what
I
do
appreciate.
You
know
your
your
response.
Those
folks
who
do
follow
me
just
like
me,
I
bring
my
people
along,
so
we're
all
learning.
You
might
be
a
lawyer.
You
might
know
more
than
all
of
us
and
I've.
J
This
about
that,
we
appreciate
your
your.
You
know
your
credentials,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
a
lot
of
folks
who's,
still
trying
to
understand
why
we're
tapping
into
D5,
if
there's
a
pathway
towards
a
resolution,
that
is
the
least
disruptive,
and
that
gets
us
to
where
we
need
to
be
just
curious
about
what
the
resistance
is
to
consider.
It.
B
K
You
you
have
the
flow
counselor
financing.
Thank
you.
No
I
was
going
to
clarify
councilor
Mejia
I,
appreciate
you
wanting
information,
but
it's
actually
not
her
job,
to
explain
to
you
or
to
me
to
teach
us
but
I
I.
K
Thank
you
for
clarifying,
even
though
you
didn't
have
to
but
I'm
going
to
ask
that
for
that
from
all
of
us
that
we
not
interrupt
each
other
when
we're
talking
that
we
are
able
to
finish
our
points,
but
from
for
myself,
I
will
not
interrupt
you
when
you're
speaking
and
I'm,
asking
that
of
my
colleagues
as
well
not
to
not
to
interrupt
the
chair,
but
also
chair,
Please
Don't,
Cut,
Her
Off.
When
she
needs
to
finish
a
point,
it
may
take
a
little
longer.
K
It
may
strike
a
nerve,
but
if
we
can
be
patient
and
let
each
other
finish,
our
points
and
I
think
that's
a
better
way
of
us
communicating
with
each
other.
M
Floor,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
from
my
data
and
me
taking
a
look
at
these
numbers
is
District
Five
actually
decreases
or
changes
the
back
black
population
by
point.
Eight
percent
in
this
move
from
1414.,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
District
4
has
to
grow
is
we've
all
come
to
the
consensus
that
1601
and
1603
is
a
community
of
Ventures
that
we're
moving
back
into
District
into
District
three.
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
just
highlight
is
we're
moving
two
precincts
out
of
District
Two
District
Four
District
Five.
M
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
just
draw
everyone's
attention
to
is
District
district,
five
district,
five
change
in
in
census.
Over
the
last
10
years,
there
was
an
increase
of
the
black
population,
an
increase
in
the
latinx
population,
an
increase
in
the
Asian
population.
In
District
Four
there
was
a
decrease
in
the
black
population.
M
And
there
was
an
increase
in
the
white
population
in
District.
Four
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
taking
a
look
at
these
numbers
and
drawn
to
the
references
and
using
that,
as
also
just
a
leveling
field,
for
what
we're
advocating
for
and
talking
about
and
on
when
we're
talking
about
redistricting
Council.
H
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
touch
on
a
couple
things.
First,
it
was
asked
about
the
matapan
and
70
of
matapan
being
in
District
Five,
and
so
I
just
want
to
do
really
quick
exercise,
which
is
that
in
District
Five
we
currently
have
14-5,
which
is
Mattapan
1414,
which
is
Mattapan
18
2,
which
is
Mattapan
18
3,
which
is
Mattapan
18-4,
which
is
Mattapan
1821,
which
is
Mattapan.
That
is
six
precincts
in
District
Five.
H
Currently
that
comprise
matapan
for
a
total
population
of
15
682
people,
the
total
population
for
matapan
is
22
617
people.
And
so,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
data,
you
know
numbers
don't
really
lie.
When
we're
talking
about
D4,
we
have
three
matapan
precincts,
14
8,
17,
14
18
1,
which
comprises
about
6805
people.
The
numbers
aren't
even
close
to
the
same,
and
when
we're
talking
about
I,
don't
know
what
that
was
about
point
five
percent
of
my
population.
H
The
black
population
is
down
I'm
somewhere
in
the
Baseline
map
around
45
to
46
black
population
in
District
Five.
This
would
get
me
down
to
about
41
if
this
map
passed
this
way,
but
most
importantly
and
I
really
just
want
to
stress
it,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
as
we
go
around.
This
only
removes
Mattapan
precincts
from
my
district
and
when
we
look
at
the
racialized
voting
pattern,
study,
I
really
don't
think
this
would
hold
up
to
the
scrutiny
of
diluting
mattapan's
vote.
I.
H
All
of
that
in
1983,
1912
and
1807
were
in
District
Five
in
1993
1912
and
187,
we're
in
District
Five
in
2002,
They
removed
1912,
but
kept
18
7,
and
it
wasn't
until
2012
that
18
7
was
removed
so
that
Mattapan
would
have
a
larger
voice
in
District,
Five
and
I.
Just
want
to
be
clear
on
this
point
when
that
vote
was
taken
10
years
ago,
this
Council
looked
very
different.
H
We
have
the
most
diverse
Council
in
the
history
of
the
city
and
it
came
from
that
map
that
was
passed
when
Ayanna
Presley
councilor
Presley
councilor
Royal
councilor
Jackson,
we're
all
pushing
for
this
map.
When
mayor
manino
was
sending
letters
saying
things
like
this
over
concentration
I'm,
quoting
the
concentration
of
black
voting
age
population
and
non-white
voting
age
population
in
District.
4
is
a
particular
concern.
Under
the
map
passed,
almost
70
percent
of
the
district's
voting
age
population
is
black
and
almost
95
percent
is
non-white
in
a
city
where
diversity
is
found.
H
Broadly
I.
Ask
that
you
Endeavor,
to
avoid
over
concentration
of
minority
voters,
and
my
concern
here
is
that
what
you're
really
doing
is
under
this
idea
that
we're
quote
unquote
unifying
Mattapan
one
way
or
the
other.
Let's
tell
the
truth-
nobody's
unifying
Mattapan
on
any
of
these
Maps.
Seventy
percent
of
Mattapan
exist
in
District
Five.
All
you
can
do
when
you
remove
Mattapan
prefix
from
District.
Five
is
actually
dilute
Mattapan.
That's
literally,
all
you
can
do.
You
know
nobody's
unifying
Roslyn
Dale,
because
none
of
these
Maps
actually
do
that.
H
The
only
thing
that
you
can
do
is
essentially
keep
Roslindale
at
about
the
same
percentage
of
neighborhood,
but
when
you
do
that,
in
tandem
with
the
decrease
of
matapan's
vote,
share
the
decrease
of
matapan's
Interest,
then
what
you're
actually
doing
is
creating
a
third
leg
that
isn't
able
to
stand
on
its
own
in
District
Five,
which
was
exactly
why
this
letter
was
sent
and
exactly
why
this
was
vetoed,
and
it's
not
Ricardo
Arroyo.
Talking
about
this.
It's
Dr
Lisa
Hanley,
who
talks
about
racialized
voting
patterns.
H
Who
makes
the
point
that
District
3
isn't
actually
an
opportunity
District,
but
District
5
actually
is
in
that
District
Five
actually
has
racialized
voting
patterns
and
that
those
voting
patterns
were
exhibited
not
just
in
2013
but
in
the
election.
That
first
brought
me
to
the
council
in
2019
and
I
think
it
should
just
be
noted
when
we're
talking
about
these
issues.
I
did
not
win
these
amount
of
fan.
Precincts,
John
klotson
known
won
these
matapan
precincts.
This
isn't
a
situation
where
I'm
trying
to
advocate
for
my
own
personal
interest.
H
What
I'm,
trying
to
make
sure
is
clear
is
that
we
have
racialized
voting
maps
and
racialized
voting
patterns
and
that
those
things
are
real.
Not
only
are
they
real,
they
are
part
of
the
Voting
Rights
Act,
and
not
only
is
that
real
dilution
of
voting
power
for
minority
people
and
for
specific
communities
of
interest
is
a
legitimate
concern.
These
are
legitimate
concerns.
H
I
see
it
as
my
responsibility
on
behalf
of
matapan
as
the
person
who
was
elected
to
represent
matapan
70
of
it
to
ensure
that
we
don't
pass
a
map
that
dilutes
their
voting
power,
that
causes
them
long-term
harm,
and
that
makes
sure
that
what
we're
doing
in
this
is
reversing
a
decade
of
work
that
led
to
a
body
that
looks
like
this.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
councilorio
and
I.
Just
want
to
repeat
that
I
agree
with
you
on
the
numbers
that
you
stated
with
respect
to
you
know
what
John
Claude
sanon
carried
and
what
you
carried
I
think
that's
really
important
I'm
going
to
go
to
councilora.
M
Item
chair
and
I
would
love
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
an
analysis
that
we're
not
hurting
black
voters
in
District
Five,
but
one
thing
I
would
love
to
do,
is
kind
of
take
a
look
at
the
map
that
you're
looking
at
also
Royal
consulate
Royal
on
where
the
matapan
lines
lie
to
see.
You
know
how
you're
doing
that
breakdown
right
now:
okay,
yeah
but
mad
at
Panda,
neighborhood
like
where,
where
does
Matt
depend
in
the
neighborhood
fit
into
all
the
precincts.
H
M
M
Right
so
I
would
love
to
see
that,
because
I
I
feel
like
we
have
well
District
Four
has
more
than
30
of
Mattapan.
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
just
point.
Everyone
like
this
is
not
about
United
Mattapan.
This
is
about
uniding.
M
The
neighborhood
in
Wellington,
Hill
and
1414
is
currently
split
into
two
districts,
District
Four
and
District
Five,
and
it
does
a
weird
circle
around
the
neighborhood
and
all
I'm
saying
is:
if
we're
going
to
be
United,
neighborhoods
and
I
know
we're
not
unite
in
all
the
neighborhoods
across
the
city
of
Boston,
but
where
we
have
the
opportunity
to
unite
neighborhoods.
M
Let's
do
so,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
to
unite
a
black
neighborhood
in
1414
in
our
district
that
was
historically
inside
of
District
Four
since
1983.-
and
this
is
all
I'm
saying,
I
need
a
growing
population.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
unite
a
black
neighborhood
in
District
Four.
Let's
do
so.
Thank
you.
K
Isn't
that
neighborhood
already
in
D5
it's
split
and
isn't
the
point
that
the
majority
is
in
D5
of
the
neighborhood?
That's
just
you
just
ask
I
see
if
you're
not
sure,
you're
not
going
to
take
that
risk
right
of
splitting
and
taking
from
where
the
majority
is
already.
K
K
K
B
Numbers,
thank
you.
Councilor,
Fernandez
and
counselor
I
think
it
was
Mejia,
Vlad
I'm,
not
sure
who
was
first
Casa
Mia.
J
Sorry,
thank
you
I'm,
so
glad
that
everybody
is
paying
attention
to
how
we
all
are
navigating
this.
So
I
think
everybody
tuning
in
buckle
up
I
really
do
appreciate.
Councilor
Anderson's,
a
notion
that
you
know
we
should
be
educated
on
this.
My
and
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear
for
the
record
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
chairs
Dynamics
around
your
decision-making
process
in
regards
to
District
Five.
J
That
is
what
is
still
unclear
to
me,
and
that
is
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
for
those
who
are
following
me,
so
that
they
can
understand
your
intentions
and
I
and
and
I
just
I
still
don't
feel
like.
It
makes
sense
to
me
when
we
have
a
colleague
who
has
already
presented
a
viable
path
forward
when
you,
as
the
chair,
are
going
to
entertain
such
a
recommendation
so
that
we
can
move
in
the
direction
that
we
need
to
go
to.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
to
make
a
point
to
reiterate
again
that
I
hear
counselor
worrell's
argument
in
terms
of
uniting
Wellington
hell
as
one
of
the
micro
neighborhoods
of
Mattapan,
but
I,
don't
think
giving
the
information
that
has
been
presented
to
us
by
the
experts
about
racialized
devotion
patterns
and
about
and
and
given
the
information
that
has
been
shared
with
us
by
councilor
Braden
about
what
we're
doing
to
the
black
population
in
D4
and
D5.
By
making
that
move.
I
I,
don't
think
that
it
is
in
alignment
to
move
to
unify
a
neighborhood
if
the
risk
is
weakening
a
a
district.
That
is
an
opportunity,
District,
right
and
so
I
think
we
have
the
way
we
can
say
hey.
We
want
Wellington
Hill
to
be
together
and
we
usually
when
we're
talking
about
communities
of
interest
and
unifying
communities
of
Interest.
It
is
for
the
purpose
of
growing
their
power.
I
Unifying
Wellington
Hill
here
weakens
the
power
of
the
entire
neighborhood
of
matapan,
as
we've
seen
with
all
the
numbers
that
have
been
shared
with
us
and
the
analysis
that
we
got
at
the
lab
during
the
last
representing
process.
And
so,
although
I
don't
disagree,
that
you
would
be
uniting
Wellington,
Hill
I
think
that
we
need
to
consider
at
what
cost.
And
if
that
is
the
most
prudent
thing
to
do.
For
the
neighborhood
of
Mattapan.
AN
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
think
the
Crux
of
this.
This
conversation
has
to
do
with.
Obviously,
what
defines
a
district
an
opportunity
District
so
are
we
by
moving
1414?
Are
we
therefore
not
allowing
for
district
five
to
be
an
opportunity
District?
Well,
that
one
Precinct
make
a
difference.
B
There's
racially
polarized
voting
and
if
black
and
Latino
voters
vote
together
as
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice
in
District
Five
under
my
map,
I,
don't
believe
that
there
would
be
any
harm
or
any
impingement
on
the
infringement
on
the
ability
of
them
to
elect
the
candidate
of
choice.
Okay,
so.
AN
B
Commissioner,
Coletta
I
right
now
we
are
going
to
transition
to
public
testimony.
We
will
then
take
a
recess.
Council
council
president
Flynn
has
ordered
pizza
for
everyone,
and
then
we
will
return
after
the
recess.
Counselor
counselor
Murphy
will
take
the
we'll,
take
the
lead
on
the
public
testimony
and
then
we
are
going
to
recess.
D
D
I'm,
sorry,
what
I'm
sorry
I
can't
hear
you
nope
I,
don't
think
so
Jean-Claude
you're
next
and
then
we
can
see
if
Karen's
still
here.
AO
AO
AO
AO
Certainly
they
have
been
prioritized
more
for
Rosendale
in
Hyde,
Park
and
Madison
has
been
neglected
for
the
most,
so
not
because
it's
coming
around
to
be
a
stone
that
everybody
wants
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
for
you
guys
who
decided
to
shred,
it
I
think
it's
unfair
and,
on
behalf
of
the
people
of
matter,
pan
I'm
asking
to
keep
it
the
way
it
is
and
not
shredding
it
out.
Thank
you.
D
AP
Yeah,
thank
you.
Counselor
Murphy
good
afternoon
counselors,
we're
here
again
and
I
wish
I
can
offer
something
brilliant
to
resolve
all
of
this,
but
I
I
would
say
that
I
appreciate
all
the
counselors.
AP
You
know
prioritizing
on
community
interests
and
listening
to
the
public
and
also
be
willing
to
make
compromise,
to
get
to
consensus
and
I'm
here
again
to
say
that
you
know
Chinese
Progressive
Association
as
an
organization
with
46
years
of
history
and
fighting
for
justice,
democracy
and
Equity
that
in
those
period
we
should
keep
8191
in
District
Two
and
like
giving
the
testimony
of
communities
and
thinking
about
Community
interests
and
that
the
enacted
map
you
know
had
1414
in
District
5
and
should
really
have
serious
consideration
of
that
and
also
I'm.
AP
Also
here,
because
I
want
to
amend
my
testimony
yesterday
about
the
Eunice
Community,
I,
actually
meant
to
say
Ward,
16,
1
and
16
3
to
be
all
part
of
the
other
pockets
of
the
Vietnamese
community
in
District.
Three
so
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
we
stand
with
the
Coalition
on
prioritizing
Community
interests,
in
a
hope
that
you
know
we'll
create
more
Economic
Opportunity
for
all
of
Boston.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
You
Karen,
the
last
one
we
have
signed
up
for
in
the
chamber
is
Samuel
Pierce,
and
then
we
have
two
online,
so
Samuel
Pierce
your
next.
AQ
Good
evening,
thank
you
very
much.
Vice
chair,
Murphy
members
of
the
city
council,
members
of
the
public
I,
am
actually
happy
that
I'm
hearing
a
lot
more
balance
and
it
sounds
like
continuity
on
some
of
the
changes
we've
talked
about
just
to
be
clear.
AQ
It
sounds
as
though
now
we're
going
to
keep
matapan
a
little
bit
more
whole
and
we're
going
to
keep
matapan
Square,
specifically
in
District
Five,
so
that
is,
is
good
to
hear.
I
do
believe
that
we
don't
want
to
be
distracted
because
we're
talking
about
District,
2
and
District
3,
as
well
as
District
4,
which
was
the
three
districts
that
the
judge
had
mentioned,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
as
well
as
well.
AQ
This
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
the
public
to
testify
when
we're
talking
about
1414,
that's
actually
Morning
Star,
Baptist,
Church
and
so
I'd
like
us,
maybe
to
think
about
having
a
hearing
there
at
Morningstar.
So
people
can
comment
about
how
they
feel
about
1414
and
in
the
area
surrounding
Morningstar,
where
we'd
like
that
to
be,
but
more
specifically
and
what's
the
most
important
is
I
actually
do
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
with
the
Asian
Community.
AQ
As
far
as
eight
one
and
nine
one
staying
in
District,
Two
I
believe
that
councilor
Flynn
has
said
that
he
supports
that
as
well.
I
think
that
talking
about
three
seven
moving
to
District
three
I
think
that
that
was
just
from
District
Two
to
District
three
to
keep
the
balance
of
the
population.
AQ
I
just
want
to
see
if
that
was
still
something
that
councilor
Baker
and
councilor
Flynn
would
would
support,
because
I
do
think
it's
important
that
the
plaintiffs
are
constantly
made
of
reference,
because
we
don't
want
it
to
go
back
to
the
judge
and
have
the
judge
end
up
making
the
decision
as
far
as
making
sure
that
things
are
balanced
as
far
as
some
of
the
Christian
populations.
AQ
The
reason
why
they
were
talking
about
the
boot
is
that
that
was
the
Catholic
population,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
Catholic
churches,
Saint
Brendan
Saint
Mark's
Saint
Anne's,
that
they
also
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
hearing
and
make
sure
that
they
are
satisfied
with
the
new
map.
I
think
that
councilor
warro
agrees
that
he
would
be
willing
to
have
16
11
and
16
10
and
all
those
districts
return
to
Dorchester.
AQ
So
I
think
that
we're
starting
to
see
some
progress
I'm
also
happy
that
I'm
hearing
that
District
8
hopefully
is
going
to
be
left
alone
because
we're
starting
to
act
like
the
Celtics
again,
the
new
Celtics
that
don't
pass
the
ball,
that
just
do
their
own
thing
and
they're
all
over
the
place,
and
so
again
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying
we
do
want
to
hopefully
see
precincts
13
really
be
in
play,
because
we
we
care
about
Ward,
17
and
I
know
that
Joyce
who's,
the
the
chair
of
Ward
17,
would
very
much
appreciate,
hopefully,
they're
being
a
hearing
in
Ward
17,
so
that
they
can
start
to
really
think
about
and
also
advocate
for
themselves.
AQ
D
AR
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
for
Generations,
we
have
worked
alongside
Elders
advocates
in
our
community
to
ensure
that
voting
rights
are
protected
for
those
communities
that
have
been
historically
marginalized
in
this
city.
We
have
seen
tremendous
progress
specifically
under
the
previous
redistricting
process,
which
provided
us
yielded
us
all
with
now.
What
we
consider
to
be
for
opportunity
districts,
three,
four,
five
and
seven.
What
we
see
unfolding
before
us
in
this
chamber
is
an
active
attempt
to
roll
back
the
hands
of
time.
AR
It
is
critically
important
that
this
body
continued
to
move
the
city
of
Boston
forward,
that
we
ensure
that
District
5
is
not
used
as
a
political
football
during
this
process
and
that
we
do
secure,
maintaining
precincts,
1414
and
I
would
argue.
Fourteen
five
in
District
5,
where
they
currently
sit.
Any
attempt
to
move
both
of
those
precincts
out
of
District
Five
and
into
District
Four
is
a
direct
attack
on
the
progress
that
too
many
preceding
even
me
have
fought
so
hard
for
us
to
make.
Additionally,
it
is
critically
important
for
this
body
to
remember.
AR
AR
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
testify
today
I
thank
you
for
your
active
Service
as
counselors
in
this
city,
but
again
I
implore
you
to
continue
to
move
our
city
forward
and
not
to
disrupt
the
progress
that
we
have
all
fought
so
hard
for
and
that
our
elders
and
our
ancestors
have
sacrificed
tremendously
to
make.
Thank
you
thank.
D
You
we
are
going
to
go
into
a
recess.
We
will
check
back
at
six
o'clock
to
let
you
know
how
long
the
recess
will
be,
and
that
being
said,
we're
in
recess.
Thank
you.
D
Back
at
six
o'clock
to
let
the
public
know
yeah
how
long,
but
we
do
not
have
to
come
back.
Knowing
that
the
rule
does
say
you
can
only
have
a
recess
for
so
long
or
the
meeting
will
have
to
end
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
pizza
is
here
yet
it
might
be
several
minutes
away.
I
heard
so
6
20
is
pizza,
so
I
know
that
it
may
be
too
long
for
that.
So.
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B
B
We
are
back
in
session
I
want
to
thank
all
the
members
of
the
public
who
offered
testimony
about
their
thoughts
on
the
maps
and
where
we
have
to
go
I
believe
we
may
have
one
person
yeah
one
person
for
public
testimony
to
speak.
A
A
AS
We
can
hear
you,
you
now
have
the
floor.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
I
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
this
important
process
and
I
apologize.
I
am
I,
I,
actually,
just
have
wanted
to
to
jump
in
I
want
to
serve
as
a
resource.
The
map
that
we
are
currently
under
is
my
2000
12
map,
I
I
also.
So
if
there
are
any
things
that
you
want
to
ask,
that
may
not
be
necessarily
apparent
about
the
past.
AS
Why
we
did
certain
things:
how
we
did
them
and
the
like
I
would
love
to
serve
as
a
resource,
but
one
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
say
to
all
of
you
is
I.
Want
you
to
understand
that
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
you
will
do.
AS
It
is
literally
the
work,
the
most
important
work
as
a
city
councilor,
because
it
really
does
set
about
what
democracy
looks
like
over
the
next
10
years,
and
what
we
have
seen
from
the
map
that
was
previously
passed
is
that
we
have
made
progress,
and
so
I
would
submit
to
you
on
that.
AS
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
always
moving
forward
and
that
we
are
never
moving
backward
and
so
that
we
need
to
continue
to
push
to
ensure
that
there
is
equity
and
opportunity
in
terms
of
people's
ability
to
have
their
voices
heard
through
this
Democratic
process
of
voting.
I
would
also
submit
to
you.
This
hurts
because
you
are
all
making
decisions
that
are
basically
do
I,
take
my
thumb
off
or
my
pinky
toe
off.
AS
In
this
case
my
big
toe
or
the
light,
because
you
were
all
voted
in
by
the
current.
The
current
folks
that
you
are
are
representing,
but
what
we
all
need
to
do
is
to
turn,
as
my
former
boss
would
say,
turn
to
each
other
and
not
on
each
other
in
this
difficult
time,
because
really
each
of
you
come
to
the
table
as
folks
who
have
a
great
deal
of
love
for
the
city
as
well
as
a
great
deal
of
love
for
the
constituents
in
which
you
serve.
AS
This
is
a
very
imperfect
making
of
the
sausage
or
any
other
analogies,
but
it
is
the
most
important
job
that
that
you
will
do.
It
will
also
be
the
part
of
your
job,
where
no
one
will
feel
completely
happy
or
feel
as
if
they
got
everything
that
they
wanted
needed
or
deserved.
AS
But
that
is
the
difficult
part
of
the
process,
as
stance
and
so
I
I
would
just
encourage
each
of
you
to
lean
in
to
make
assumptions
around
attentions
that
are
good
and
do
what
needs
to
happen
do
do
what
needs
to
be
done
in
order
to
move
forward
and
ensure
democracy
in
our
city.
AS
AS
Obviously,
there's
well
over
200
precincts,
and
so
you
are
much
more
close
to
one
another
than
you
are
far
apart
and
so
I
would
I
would
submit
that
when
I'm,
when
we're
listening
and
we're
out
here,
having
conversations
that
you
know
what
my
expectation
would
be
for
people
to
be
putting
forward
Solutions
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
move
forward
so
again,
I
I.
Thank
you
for
your
work,
I.
Thank
you
for
doing
the
hard
work.
AS
I
I
know
what
the
blood
pressure
feels
like,
because
I
have
been
there
and
and
I
will
know.
When
we
did
this
10
over
10
years
ago,
we
spent
one
whole
calendar
year
on
this.
I
I
fell
into
this
rabbit,
hole
and
literally
ended
up
a
year
later,
with
with
this,
and
so
I
I
encourage
you
and,
and
thank
you
in
advance
for
doing
this
work.
AS
I
will
I
will
also
provide
whatever
input
I
can,
if
you
have
questions
about
any
of
the
decisions
that
we've
made
and
the
last
four.
AS
Thank
you
so
much
on
to
this
August
body
know
that
you
continue
to
do
the
most
important
work
in
the
city
and
and
and
get
it
going
through
this
very
difficult
process.
But
each
of
you
is
a
critical
part
of
it,
and
you
are
interconnected
in
this
process
and
know
that
it
can
and
we'll
get
done
and
I
am
confident
that
you
will,
and
you
will
work
together
to
get
this
important
piece
done
for
the
people
of
the
city
of
Boston.
B
Thank
you,
Council
Jackson
appreciate
your
testimony
want
to
also
say
again
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
public
like
councilor
Jackson
stated.
This
is
what
we
do
every
10
years.
It's
gonna
be
hard.
It's
going
to
be
contentious,
it's
a
lot
is
at
stake
for
people,
and
so
I
acknowledge
that
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
given
input
on
the
map
and
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
if
there
are
any
anything
that
else
that
they
would
like
to
state
or
put
on
the
record.
C
B
AM
AT
Thank
you
for
providing
those
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
Jennifer
Christie
of
the
Wellington
Hill
Community
I
understand
this
is
not
a
simple
task,
but
I
do
want
to
say
a
movement
of
wards
14-14
in
1802
from
District
5
into
District
Four,
dilutes
the
black
vote
within
the
Mattapan
neighborhood,
while
reducing
the
community
of
Wellington
Hills
effort
to
be
marginalize.
AT
This
Council
has
the
chance
to
vote
to
provide
opportunities
of
growth
that
impacts
us
for
the
next
10
years.
Instead
of
retracting
our
strides
of
progress,
all
we
request
is
to
not
be
held
back.
We
do
not
grow
just
by
standing
together
in
unity,
Unity
start,
but
also
grow
by
spreading.
Our
reach.
I
must
add
that
Council
Laura's
map
is
the
closest,
in
my
opinion,
of
consideration
for
the
city
as
a
whole.
B
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Shane
do
we
have
anyone
else
lined
up
probably
doesn't
want
okay,
so
I
will
now
turn
it
to
my
colleagues
counselor
Murphy.
You
have
the
floor.
D
Thank
you.
I
was
going
to
say
before
the
break.
Some
of
our
colleagues
were
referencing
the
process.
The
last
time
we
went
through
redistricting
and
councilor
Jackson
brought
up
how
he
could
be
a
resource.
I
do
just
want
to
remind
us
that
Council
of
Flaherty
has
been
on
this
Council
for
over
two
decades,
Now
by
councilor
Baker.
You
were
here,
and
you
were.
D
You
know
one
of
the
voting
members,
the
line
drawing
body
last
time
too
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
leaning
in
on
our
colleagues
that
are
here
on
this
Council
too,
to
make
sure
we're
getting
the
historical
background
of
how
we
ended
up,
adding
District
Five
as
a
opportunity,
district
and
councilor
Jackson
mentioned
it
and
I
know
that's
what
I
had
heard.
Also
that
the
process
was.
D
You
know
over
a
year
long,
a
lot
of
community
input,
yes
hearing
from
Advocates,
but
The
Advocates
did
not
need
to
force
it
onto
the
council.
The
council
knew
their
task
that
that
Census
Data
from
2010
told
them
more
than
just
what
we
needed
to
do.
We
just
need
to
adjust
population
based
on
the
data
that
we
have
from
this
current
census,
but
back
then
they
needed
to
also
add
another
opportunity.
D
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
want
to
take
this
time
to
reiterate
again
the
argument
that
I
have
been
making,
particularly
around
my
district
about
precinct
1
and
Precinct
8
in
Ward
20..
I
The
map,
as
it
is
reflected
now
still
21,
is
already
in
my
district.
It
has
not
moved.
28
is
still
not
being
unified.
I
think
that
my
Council
colleagues
here
are
asking,
for
the
same
reasons,
to
unify
South
Boston
and
keep
South
Boston
together
and
keep
Dorchester
at
the
bottom
of
Dorchester
and
I'm,
making
the
same
request
about
West
Roxbury.
I
What
is
happening
here
right
now
is
that
we
are
again
bifurcating
Rosendale
and
also
breaking
up
West
Roxbury
without
moving
the
20s
and
the
impact
that
moving
21
and
28
into
District,
Five
I
believe
even
with
even
if
1414
was
in
District
5
based
on
the
numbers
that
we're
looking
at
would
create
a
Voting
Rights,
Act
violation.
The
people
in
West
Roxbury
have
been
very
clear
with
me.
They
have
been
supportive
I
met
with
every
chair
of
the
neighborhood
associations
and
the
West
Roxbury
neighborhood
Council,
before
coming
before
this
body.
I
Making
this
request
for
28.
I
presented
them.
My
map
I
told
them
why
I
wanted
to
unite
West
Roxbury
and
they
sent
emails
and
letters
and
support
to
Bringing
28
into
district
6.
21
is
already
there
now
again
everybody's
asking
to
unify
their
neighborhoods
I'm,
asking
so
very
we're
talking
about
one
Precinct.
I
We
are
able
to
unify
an
entire
neighborhood
by
making
one
Precinct
change
by
moving
28
into
District
Six
and
leaving
21,
as
it
is
both
precincts
that
have
West,
Roxbury
and
Rosendale
in
them,
moving
them
into
District
Six
again,
District
Six,
as
seba
Kramer
testified
earlier
today.
They've
done
a
lot
of
work
to
ensure
that
this
district
is
able
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice
and
when
we're
looking
at
21
and
28,
putting
that
into
District
Five
harms
District
five's
ability
to
do
that.
I
Even
when
you
keep
1414
there,
it
switches
from
a
district
where,
where
basically
the
black
candidate
Kim
Janey
won
the
election,
it
actually
switches
that
and
I
believe
that
that's
a
creates
a
VRA
violation
as
well,
and
so
I'm
asking
my
colleagues
to
support
not
only
the
reunification
of
Les
Roxbury,
but
also
maintaining
District
Five
as
an
opportunity
District.
This
benefits
District
Six.
It
keeps
a
community
of
Interest
together
and
also
doesn't
create
a
problem
on
the
other
side
by
moving
28
and
21
into
District
Five.
B
Thank
you,
councilada
I,
take
that
you've
met
with
leaders
in
West
Roxbury,
and
we
have
received
emails
from
folks
and
I've.
Had
conversations
with
folks
about
28
is
where
it
is
and
including
folks
who
work
here
for
the
city
who
are
here
every
day
in
city
council
who
live
in
28
and
28
has
been
in
District
Five
in
28
is
Roslindale.
B
There
are,
there
may
be
a
minority
of
West
Roxbury
in
28,
but
the
reason
why
it
was
in
District
5
and
the
reason
why
it
is
in
District
Five
is
because
it
is
predominantly
Roslindale
so
I
take
your
point.
I
hear
you
and
I'm
going
to
counselor
me
here.
Do
you
have
your
mic
on
okay,
Council
Royal?
You
have
an
icon.
Yes,.
H
No
I'm,
assuming
this
is
like
final
comments,
so
I
just
want
to
note.
One
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
just
reiterate
is
when
we
talk
about
the
study
by
Dr
Lisa
Hanley.
One
of
the
things
that
they
take
into
analysis
is
how
the
mayoral
preliminary
played
out
and
how
people
finished,
and
if
folks
remember
when
Moon
duken
came
in
and
did
her
presentation,
one
of
the
things
that
she
looked
at
was
whether
or
not
changing
these
lines
changed.
H
H
It
doesn't
necessarily
solve
the
voter
dilution,
because
you're
still
removed
Mattapan
in
that
that
framework
I
think
there's
probably
ways
we
can
work
around
that
issue,
and
so
you
know
we're
sort
of
coming
down
to
the
wire,
and
so
my
hope
is
that,
as
we
move
into
tomorrow,
these
kinds
of
framework
issues
of
of
how
potential
the
RAS
are
going
to
be
addressed
as
something
that
we
talk
about.
H
I
also
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
say
that
I
appreciate
how
difficult
it
is
to
have
these
kind
of
hearings
and
be
the
chair
during
these
hearings,
and
so
I
want
to
commend
you
for
how
you
have
attempted
to
manage
this
without
going
too
high
or
too
low
emotionally.
So
I
appreciate
that
from
you,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
said
that
as
well.
Thank.
B
You
I'm
a
lawyer
and
so
I'm
used
to
a
lot
of
people
when
they're
different
temperatures.
I
will
state
that
I
have
not
stated
a
lot
about
this,
but
I
you,
you
stated
Council
Arroyo,
that
in
your
own
election,
Latino
voters
and
black
voters
had
a
different
candidate
of
choice
that
is
going
to
make
it
very
difficult
to
meet.
B
The
second
prong
of
the
jingles
requirement
of
the
three
requirements
that
the
minority
group
or
groups,
which
is
an
outstanding
question
in
the
First
Circuit
of
whether
Coalition
districts
are
recognized,
can
elect
a
candidate,
are
cohesive
enough
to
have
a
candidate
of
their
choice,
to
elect,
and
so
I
know
that
this
is
complicated.
The
Voting
Rights
Act
is
complicated.
H
B
H
There's
not
we're
not
disagreeing
on
that
part.
What
I
am
saying
is
not
that
black
voter
I'm
saying
that
that
is
what
the
analysis
of
this
came
down
with
was
that
black
voters
had
a
very
specific
choice,
and
what
we
are
talking
about
is
when
you
take
out
two
precincts
that
are
essentially
combating
in
this
report
that
dilution
of
essentially
combating
that
racial
polarization.
That
makes
it
so
that
it's
an
effective
opportunity
District
if
you
dilute
Mattapan,
then
you
are
causing
an
issue
where
that
racialized
polarized
voting
is
very
evident.
H
It's
in
this
report,
and
frankly,
we
haven't
done
a
study.
There's
no
study
to
go
off
of.
We
only
have
one
report
that
was
conducted
within
the
last
I
think
October
of
last
year,
so
relatively
recently
that
made
the
finding
that
in
2019,
2013
and
2015
there
was
racial
polarization
within
District
Five
and
how
it
votes,
and
what
essentially
this
map
would
do
is
it
would
remove
Mattapan?
It
only
removes
matapan
precincts,
that's
all
it
does,
and
so
you
are
diluting
black
voters.
That's
a
significantly
black
Precinct,
though
both
of
those
black
precincts.
H
H
Based
I
am
not
saying
that
I'm
going
to
be
making
the
racial
dilution
claim
I
I'm,
not
the
one
who
funds
lawsuits
against
the
body.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
when
we
are
talking
about
this
issue,
when
we
already
have
the
lawyers
for
civil
rights
on
the
screen
talking
about
this,
we
already
have
the
NAACP
talking
about
this.
H
But
what
I'm
saying
is
we
don't
have
to
go
down
that
line
at
all
that
doesn't
have
to
happen
and
we're
acting
like
this
is
set
in
stone
when
this
is
not
set
in
stone.
There's
a
number
of
different
ways
in
which
you
can
piece
this
together,
where
those
concerns
don't
exist
and
one
of
those
ways
you
can
do,
that
is
by
putting
back
1414
taking
21
and
leaving
it
in
district
6.
And
then,
if
you
put
1912
and
put
1713
into
District,
3
you're
back
to
normal,
you
are
literally
back
to
normal.
H
I
would
have
to
look
at
what
the
analysis
would
be
on
the
other
things.
But
it's
not
like.
There's
no
combination
here
that
doesn't
let
us
get
to
this
on
the
margins
without
drastically
having
to
redraw
the
entire
map,
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is.
This
is
very
different
than
what
the
2112
map
was
trying
to
do
and
it's
very
different
different
than
what
was
essentially
passed
and
I.
Understand
that
we're
not
going
back
to
that
map
I'm,
not
saying
anything
about
that.
H
But
what
I
am
saying
is
that
this
has
very
clear,
VRA
issues
just
on
the
one
report
that
we
even
have
on
this,
and
we
don't
have
another
one
coming,
and
so
it's
not
counselor
Royal
saying
this.
It's
that
Dr
Lisa
Hanley
and
a
thing
that
was
submitted
to
federal
court
and
that
the
federal
judge
cited
said
this,
and
so
when
we're
talking
who,
by
the
way
that
same
federal
judge
cited
that
1912
and
1817
are
Roslindale
priest,
18-7,
sorry,
1912
and
187
a
Roslindale
precincts
and
that
she
appreciated.
H
Essentially
she
didn't
use
the
word
appreciated.
But
she
cited
that
two
things
were
done
that
she
sort
of
noted
as
positive
16,
1
and
16
3
going
into
District
3.
She
notice
the
positive
because
of
Little
Saigon
1912
and
187
going
into
District
Five.
She
known
as
the
positive
for
District
Five.
We've
ignored
that
and
not
only
we
ignored
that
we've
ignored
it
in
a
way
that
accentuates
racially
polarized
voting
and
so
I.
H
Don't
I,
don't
want
this
construed
as
Ricardo
says
this
or
Ricardo
says
that
I'm
literally
just
basing
it
off
of
what
Dr
Hanley
has
said.
What
the
federal
decision
has
said
and
what
we
can
do
within
this
body
within
our
power
to
adjust
this
map
in
a
way
that
eliminates
that
concern,
because
I
think
we
are
aware
that
these
Maps
can
be
sued
and,
frankly,
anything
that
has
a
potential
VRA
issue.
H
We
have
already
been
sort
of
told,
will
likely
be
sued
and
so
I'm
just
saying
this
is
a
fixable
issue
that
we
can
fix
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
that
far
apart
from
fixing
it,
but
I
do
think
it's
something
that
can
be
fixed
and
I
would.
Rather,
we
fix
it
than
go
into
a
rushed
vote
with
no
voting
racial
voting
analysis
and
the
only
one
we
do
have
says
that
this
would
accentuate
that
problem.
That's
all
I'm.
B
Saying,
thank
you.
Counselor
and
I
do
want
to
apologize
if
I
made
it
seem
as
though
it
was
your
statistics
or
your
data
that
you're
reading
so
I
just
want
to
read
onto
the
record
and
you
and
you
correct
for
me
if
I'm,
not
including
everything
that
you
stated
so
this
is
talking
about
District
Five
in
a
report
where
she
said
where
she
stated.
B
Eight
candidates
competed
in
the
29th
is
that
what
you're
reading
from
okay
so
eight
candidates?
This
is
when
she
talks
about
District
Five.
She
states
eight
candidates
competed
in
the
2019
preliminary
election
for
this
open
seat.
Voting
was
polarized
a
plurality
of
lab
voters,
supported
Jean-Claude,
sanon,
black,
a
plurality,
a
plurality
of
Hispanic
voter,
supported
Arroyo
and
the
plurality
of
white
voters
supported
Maria,
Estelle,
Pharrell,
White
I
agree
with
you.
There
I
agree
that
that's
what
the
experts
stated.
H
A
H
H
Think
Council
Braden
might
have
more
information
on
this
as
well,
because
I
believe
she's
the
one
who
sought
for
this
report,
but
it
says
District
Five,
has
been
successful
in
electing
a
Hispanic
preferred
candidate,
albeit
only
because
this
candidate
garnered
some
support
from
White
voters
into
a
lesser
degree:
black
voters,
a
district-specific,
functional
analysis
of
the
proposed
plan.
This
is
the
plan
that
I
think
we
actually
voted
on
and
was
enacted,
but
counselor
Braden,
and
that
has
been
enjoined
Council.
Braden
can
speak
to
that.
H
We'll
provide
minority
voters
with
the
same
opportunity
to
elect
their
preferred
candidates
to
city
council
as
they
currently
have
under
the
prior
plan,
and
what
I
am
saying
is
this
map?
I.
Do
not
believe
would
do
that,
and
so
these
conclude
would
likely
change
based
on
the
findings
that
she
already
found,
based
on
the
changes
that
we're
making
this
map.
That's
all
I'm
saying
the
entirety
of
this
is
docket
935,
and
so
it
exists
on
the
record
already
in
terms
of
on
it's
in
our
records
and
I.
Think.
H
It
also
speaks
to
the
concerns
that
the
last
mayor
that
we
had
during
redistricting,
who
also
lived
in
District
Five,
had
raised
about
the
dilution
of
mattapan's
vote
and
the
dilution
of
what
that
does
and
I
think.
It
also
is
important
to
note
that
the
history
of
this
District
after
those
changes
were
made
in
2013.
H
What
I'm
saying
is
we
don't
have
to
do
it,
but
not
only
do
we
not
have
to
do
it,
it
would
likely
create
a
real
issue
for
us
and-
and
we
can
banter
back
and
forth
about
whether
or
not
we
opine
that
maybe
it
does.
Maybe
it
doesn't,
and
maybe
a
judge
will
have
to
decide
that,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
this
report
makes
clear
that
she
finds
racial
polarization
that
she
found.
The
last
map
in
which
19
8,
1912
and
1414
were
in
District,
5,
28
and
21
were
in
District
Six.
H
That's
the
map
that
she's
comparing
it
to
that
map,
didn't
create
problems
with
racially
polarized
voting,
but
they
also
didn't
swap
the
outcomes
of
mayoral
preliminaries
and
they
didn't
remove
districts
where
very
clearly
she
is
saying
in
this
report.
Black
voters
have
specific
interests
and
this
actually
eliminates
them
from
the
map,
and
so
you
know
we
can
talk
about
this
any
other
which
way
you
want
to
do
it.
We
can
try
to
parse
the
sentence
here.
There.
B
I
Thank
you
councilor
region.
Yesterday,
when
we
were
at
the
hearing
and
you
were
making
the
change
by
taking
28
from
21
and
28
from
the
enacted
map
and
putting
it
into
District
Five.
You
read
on
the
list
of
four
people
who
you
had
received.
We've
received
public
testimony
from
X
Y
and
Z
and
read
a
list
of
four
people's
names
who
sent
you.
Email
among
those
names
were
Stephen,
Gaff,
Nancy,
Horowitz
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
I
want
to
for
the
record.
Read
this
into
just.
I
Sent
that
is
correct
so
for
the
record,
dear
City,
councilors
I
am
writing
to
amend
my
testimony
that
I
submitted
prior
to
yesterday's
hearing
because
of
an
unforeseen
cancellation
of
my
previously
scheduled
appointment.
I
was
able
to
watch
most
of
the
hearing
yesterday
watching
helped
me
understand
the
impact
of
the
various
proposed
changes
contained
in
the
map
under
consideration.
I
was
moved
by
state
representative
Holmes
testimony
in
which
he
expressed
concerns
about
the
loss
of
voting
strength
of
those
communities
that
up
until
recently,
have
been
historically
underrepresented
in
our
city.
I
I
became
concerned
about
the
impact
of
those
communities
in
Mattapan
and
in
the
district
represented
by
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson
I
wrote
my
testimony
yesterday
without
being
fully
informed.
After
watching
the
hearing,
I
began
to
feel
like
my
desire
to
have
Ward
20
precinct
1
return
to
District
5
is
Small
Potatoes,
compared
to
the
need
to
ensure
that
all
communities
in
Boston
are
fairly
and
proportionately
represented.
I
I
feel
strongly
that
Boston
has
come
a
long
way
in
the
years
that
I
have
lived
here
and
do
not
want
to
see
changes
that
make
it
more
difficult
for
communities
of
color
to
represent
to
choose
the
represent
candidate
of
their
choosing.
If
precinct,
1
being
returned
to
District
5
makes
it
more
likely
that
the
communities
are
disempowered.
I
asked
that
the
decision
to
return
Ward
20
to
Precinct
one
in
District
5
be
reversed.
I
I
had
a
half
a
dozen
phone
calls
like
this
yesterday,
when
I,
when,
when
presented
in
a
vacuum,
when
the
idea
of
we're
keeping
Ross
and
Dylan
Rosendale
when
it's
presented
in
a
vacuum,
everybody
in
Roslindale
is
going
to
say
yeah.
Of
course,
why?
Wouldn't
you
keep
my
neighborhood
together
when
presented
with
the
impact
that
moving
21
and
28
into
35
will
have
on
these
communities?
This
is
the
reaction
that
everybody
had.
Oh
I
didn't
know.
Oh
I
didn't
consider
that
oh
you're
right,
X,
Y
and
Z.
I
So,
although
you're,
like
hey,
we've,
heard
about
people
working
over
respectfully
from
people
who
work
at
City
Hall
great,
let's
talk
about
what
the
impact
of
moving
28
and
21
into
District
5
does
to
District
Five
right
we're
talking
about
racialized
voting
patterns.
Here
we're
having
a
conversation
about
racialized
voting
patterns.
You
are
taking
a
district
right.
We
saw
racialized
voting
patterns
in
the
Mayoral
race,
meaning
that
in
every
single
black
Precinct
Kim
Janey
won
over
Michelle
Wu
by
large
margins.
That
is
what
we
saw
in
in
the
Mayoral
race.
I
If
you
put
21
and
28
into
District
5,
you
are
flipping
District
Five
from
being
a
Precinct
where
Kim
Janey
wins
to
a
Precinct
with
mate,
where
mayor
Wu
wins.
Did
you
think?
Excuse
me
a
district
where
mayor
Wu
wins
instead,
so
you
cannot
you're
what
you're?
What
you're?
It
is
very
clear
that
we
are
diluting
that
neighborhood
and
their
ability
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice
by
putting
21
and
28
in
that
in
the
in
in
District
Five.
It
is
it's
shown
it's
borne
out,
true
to
be
by
the
Numbers.
I
If
we're
seeing
racialized
voting
patterns
and
we're
seeing
that
overwhelmingly
in
Black
precincts,
Kim
Janey
wins
over
over
mayor
Wu
and
moving
these
two
precincts
which,
by
the
way
doesn't
fully
unify
Roslindale
and
it
doesn't
fully
unify
West
Roxbury
also
makes
it
so
that
District
Five
goes
from
being
a
district.
Where
Kim
Janey
wins
to
a
district.
Where
mayor
who
wins,
then
we
are
effectively
weakening
the
ability
of
the
people
in
that
District
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice.
I
It
is
absolutely
moving
us
towards
a
Voting,
Rights,
Act
violation,
and
if
we
get
sued
again,
what's
going
to
happen,
is
that
the
judge
is
going
to
draw
the
lines
for
us
and
send
it
back.
We
don't
get
it.
We
don't
get
to
say
again
what
that
looks
like,
and
so
again
we
can
talk
about.
Oh,
it's
only
a
block.
It's
only
one
street
of
West
Roxbury,
oh
no!
I
So
again,
o2132
is.
Does
somebody
here
have
any
argument
that
o2132
is
not
West?
Roxbury
o2132
should
be
in
District
Six.
That
is
West
Roxbury.
We
want
to
keep
the
neighborhood
together.
We
should
keep
the
neighborhood
together
now,
if
you
want
to
slice
it
and
dice
it
and
say:
oh
well,
it's
not
that
much.
So
we
shouldn't
keep
it
together.
We
have
an
option
here.
The
option
is
you
unify
one
neighborhood
or
you
keep
two
neighborhoods
separate.
I
You
unify
West
Roxbury
or
you
keep
Roslindale
and
West
Roxbury
broken
up,
and
the
only
thing
standing
in
between
us
and
unifying
that
neighborhood
is
moving
One,
Singular
Precinct
and
leaving
21,
which
is
already
in
district
6
at
District
6..
So
we
are
by
making
that
change
unifying
the
neighborhood
and
we're
also
preventing
a
VRA
violation
in
District
Five
we're
preventing
flipping
D5
from
a
Kim
Janey
District
to
a
mayor,
wood
district
and
we
are
unifying
a
neighborhood
that
has
generally
been
unified.
Now
I,
don't
see
if
we're
following
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting.
I
There's
no
argument
against
doing
that.
Now.
I
can
keep
beating
the
dead
horse
about
how
we
shouldn't
even
be
in
district
6
and
District
Five,
because
we've
already
presented
a
map
that
shows
that
those
changes
in
that
area
are
unnecessary,
especially
for
population
balance,
especially
if
we
want
to
respond
to
the
judge's
ruling.
But
it
seems
that
there
is
nobody.
I
Nobody
is
concerned
about
the
fact
that
we
are
moving
up
in
that
direction
when
we
don't
absolutely
need
to,
and
so,
if
you're
going
to
continue
to
go
there,
then
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
what
the
impacts
of
that
is
going
to
be.
Everybody
here
wants
to
say
that
all
black
people
and
all
the
strength
they
know
we
want
to
have
X,
Y
and
Z
okay.
Well,
let's
tell
the
people
in
Mattapan
that
by
moving
21
and
28
District
5
goes
from
being
a
district
where
Kim
Janey
wins
to
a
district.
B
Thank
you,
councilada
councilor
council,
president
Flynn,
you
know,
oh
sorry,
I
think
councilor
Murphy
was
first.
You
have
the
floor.
D
It's
fine.
Thank
you,
chair
from
what
I
understand
is
true.
Is
that
and
if
you
look
at
the
Boston
election
website,
it
does
tell
us
that
Ward
20
precincts
2489
are
all
Rosendale
precincts
and
based
on
the
population
map
that
I
just
checked
here
behind
me
that
the
population
in
Ward,
20,
Precinct
8,
is
1609.
There
are
nine
residents
living
in
four
households
in
28
that
have
a
Roslindale
zip
code
and
that
the
zip
code
for
the
ward,
20
Precinct
date
is
zero.
D
D
I
I
Clay
Auto
on
Belgrade
Avenue,
which,
by
the
way,
is
off
of
the
Holy
Name
rotary
and
down
the
street
02132,
considered
to
be
West,
Roxbury,
no
02132,
it's
considered
to
be
West,
Roxbury,
double
check
and
a
one
street
which
spreads
all
the
way
up
to
Park
Street
in
West
Roxbury.
Also
o2132.
There
are
houses
there.
If
you
want
to
go,
look
on
the
Zillow
and
see
you
can
look
for
it
yourself.
I
If
you
think
that
o2132
again,
you
can
say,
however
much
you
want
that
o2132
is
not
West
Roxbury
and
therefore
every
o2132,
zip
code
and
Precinct
and
every
piece
of
neighborhood,
including
in
21.
in
21.
It's
only
one
street,
it's
Montclair
Street,
it's
the
same
thing.
There's
seven
houses
21
has
always
been
in
District
6..
It's
the
same.
It's
Apples
to
Apples!
So
if
we
have
one
Precinct
that
is
in
West
Roxbury,
that
is
considered
a
West
Roxbury
in
Roslindale
Precinct,
we
already
have
one
that
has
only
a
small
amount
of
West
Roxbury.
I
Okay,
everybody
wants
to
sit
here
and
Define
their
own
neighborhoods
right.
Oh
no,
South,
Boston,
oh
I,
can't
cut
into
this
thing
in
South
Boston,
because
my
dad's
playground
is
there.
Everybody
gets
to
decide
what
arbitrary
lines
for
their
neighborhood
are.
But
then
y'all
want
to
come
here
and
say:
oh
no,
actually,
that
address
that
says.
West
roxbury02132
is
actually
not
West
Roxbury,
it
is
Roslindale,
it
is
West
Roxbury.
Now
again
you
are
unifying
a
neighborhood
and
we
are
preventing
a
VRA
violation
in
District
Five.
It's
not
just
one
thing,
so
you
can
argue.
I
Oh
it's
not
enough
of
West
Roxbury
to
want
to
make
a
change,
but
the
fact
remains
that
if
you
leave
21
and
28
in
District
5,
it
creates
a
Voting,
Rights
Act
violation
by
flipping
the
district
to
one
where
Kim
Janey
wins
in
the
mayoral
election
to
one
where
mayor
will
wins
in
the
mayoral
election.
So
there
are
multiple
arguments
to
be
made
here:
there's
not
just
one
reason
for
them
to
be
kept.
There.
E
E
Not
politically
popular
decisions
are
not
decisions
that
that
are
popular
with
our
communities.
But
what's
right
for
the
residents
of
the
city
and
what
what
I'm
hearing
a
lot
is,
you
know
the
politics
being
played
in
this
decision-making
process,
so
I
think
if
we
put
politics
aside
and
do
what
we
think
is
best
for
the
residents
of
Boston,
even
though
it's
unpopular
I
think
will
be
a
better
City
for
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
council
president
Council
I,
don't
councilman
here,
Council
Braden,
councilor
Mejia!
You
got
the
floor.
Councilman
here
you
have
the
floor.
Thank.
J
You
I
will
reiterate,
as
I
said
before,
I
only
won
by
one
votes
and
for
me
nothing
gives
me
Greater
Joy
than
representing
the
people
who
put
me
here,
and
only
them
are
the
ones
that
could
take
me
out.
So
I
never
do
anything
with
any
political
calculation
or
a
fear
of
loss,
because
I
don't
have
that
stress
or
that
worry
in
the
way
that
I
roll
and
how
I
talk
and
how
I
show
up
in
this
world.
It
is
what
it
is.
J
I
do
want
to
have
a
better
understanding,
because
we
have
yet
to
answer
the
question
and
I'm
still
trying
to
understand
it.
But
having
hearing
my
colleagues
talk
about
how
we're
really
flipping
the
situation
here,
it's
really
you
want
to.
You
want
to
talk
about
conspiracy,
theory
I'm,
just
going
to
throw
one
out
there.
J
You
know
mayor
Wu
did
nothing
to
in
regards
to
the
legal
case
against
us
right
and
now
we
are
here
carrying
her
water
and
trying
to
dilute
a
the
work
that
has
been
done
prior,
so
I'm
just
curious
again.
J
Who
are
we
here
to
fight
for
and
who
are
we
here
to
represent?
And
while
I
do
appreciate
the
momentum
that
we
were
talking
about
yesterday,
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
confusion
yesterday
and
I
think
today's
hearing
provided
a
lot
more
insight
and
some
clarity
around
the
will
of
the
voters
and
what
we
are
here
to
do
is
to
serve
them,
and
so,
if,
if
we
were
to
do
that,
I
don't
really
feel
comfortable
walking
into
this
chamber
tomorrow,
making
a
vote
when
I.
J
Don't
really
don't
know
what
we're
voting
for
what
direction
we're
moving
in
and
if
any
of
the
changes
that
have
been
proposed
are
going
to
be
considered.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
chair
what
have
what,
if
any
changes,
if
any,
are
going
to
be
made
based
on
the
amount
of
time
and
energy
that
we
have
spent
here
today,
I'd
like
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
that
looks
like
moving
forward.
Thank.
B
You
councilor
Mejia
I,
don't
know
like
yesterday.
We
ended
with
a
map
that
met
population
that
moved
to
a
Precinct
to
ensure
that
we
were
getting
eight
one
and
nine
one
into
District.
Two
I
am
going
to
take
public
the
public
testimony
and
the
statements
that
you
are
that
everyone
is
making
here
and
we
will
have
a
map
to
vote
on
tomorrow.
Yeah.
J
AJ
J
B
So
we've
heard
public
testimony
have
heard
from
my
colleagues
going
to
look
at
the
map
we
and
we'll
continue
to
have
conversations
I
as
a
new
city.
Councilor
have
come
to
chambers
before
and
have
been
uncertain
about.
What's
coming
up,
what's
the
vote,
what
is
actually
going
to
be
in
the
package
and
I
understand
that
and
I
understand
how
that
can
cause
confusion
and
it
can
cause
uncertainty.
It
I
feel
like
it
happens
to
me
almost
every
other
Wednesday,
so
I
I
understand
we
are
operating
under
a
really
tight
timeline.
B
I
wanted
us
to
start
as
soon
as
possible
with
these
Maps,
so
we
could
have
a
longer
time
for
discussion
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
we
delayed
and
therefore
we
had
even
less
time
to
really
discuss
the
substance
of
the
maps
and
so
I'm.
Taking
in
all
of
the
information
that
you
all
are
giving
me
reducing
is
a
very
difficult
process
as
as
I
stated
before,
and
we
I
will
be
looking
at
the
testimony,
the
written
testimony
that
we've
received
reviewing
the
public
testimony
and
we
will
have
a
map
to
vote
on
tomorrow.
J
No
I
appreciate
that
and
I'll
just
the
last
thing
that
I'll
say
is
you
know:
counselor
Flynn
talks
about
a
putting
politics
aside,
but
I
have
to
say
that
nothing
has
been
more
political
than
this
whole
entire
process
in
terms
of
really
trusting
each
other.
J
It's
hard
to
trust
people
when
sometimes
your
best
interest
is
not
what
people's
priorities
are
and
I
am
not
I
I
I'm
disheartened
by
all
of
it,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
your
ability
for
keeping
us
on
task,
despite
all
of
the
trauma
and
drama
that
we're
all
experiencing
as
we
navigate
this.
J
But
it
is
really
interesting
to
see
the
difference
in
terms
of
what
is
before
us
now
and
who
are
the
loudest
voices
and
who
are
not,
and
so
sometimes
those
who
aren't
saying
much
are
saying
it
all
in
terms
of
the
way
that
we're
moving
and
who
it
is
that
we're
fighting
for
and
I
do
appreciate.
Councilor
Murphy
grabbing
her
phone
ready
to
make
note
of
it,
because
it's
already
public
I'm,
just
teasing
you
Council,
Murphy,
I'm
teasing
you
I'm
teasing
you
just
relaxing.
Can
we
yeah?
Can
we
just.
B
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilmania
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
you
stated
and
it
is
the
very
reason
why
redistricting
is
a
contentious
process.
It
does
lead
to
a
lot
of
mistrust
and
distrust,
because
voters
don't
know
if
people
are
thinking
about
them
or
if
they're
thinking
about
themselves,
which
is
why
again,
independent
commissions
for
redistring
is
the
way
forward,
so
that
legislators
are
not
involved
in
drawing
their
own
lines.
I
am
in
at
large
city
councilor.
B
So
in
one
way
the
lines
don't
personally
mean
anything
to
me,
because
everyone
in
the
city
of
Boston
can
decide
they
want
to
vote
for
or
against
me
because
I'm,
an
at-large,
City,
councilor
but
I,
do
understand
how
this
is
and
I
believe
Council
Jackson
say
to
this
as
well.
It
is
a
hyper
emotional
process
because
folks
were
elected
on
these
lines
and
they
have
feelings
about
them.
So
I
appreciate
your
statements:
Council
Lara!
You
now
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
have
a
conversation.
I
think
there
are
changes
that
folks
have
been
unwilling
to
make
in
the
way
that
that
the
map
is
drawn
right
now,
particularly
with
President
Flynn
and
his
comments.
Although
they're
you
you're
trying
to
keep
South
Boston
and
also
keep
the
south
end
and
then
councilor
Baker
doesn't
want
to
go
into
the
south
end,
but
also
wants
to
keep
17-13
and
we're
having
a
conversation
about
compromise
and
people
being
able
to
switch
and
nobody's
budging
here.
I
So
reiterate
the
point
about
21
and
28,
although
of
course,
everybody's
personal
interest
at
every
turn
are
brought
into
this
process
when
we
are
shown
the
impact
of
our
decisions,
whether
they're
being
made
with
personal
lens
or
or
whichever
ultimately
have
to
hang
on
how
it
impacts
people.
And
so,
if
we're
talking
about
how
it
impacts
people,
if
we're
talking
about
how
it
would
impact
opportunity
districts
and
how
it
impacts
the
most
marginalized
people
in
the
city.
Again,
21
and
28.
I
have
a
detrimental
impact
to
the
people
not
to
counselor
Lara,
21
and
28.
Don't
have
a
detrimental
impact
to
council
Lara.
They
have
a
detrimental
impact
to
people,
to
the
people
who
are
most
marginalized
in
our
community,
and
so
we
can
say:
yes,
people
have
their
own
vetted
interests.
People
have
their
own
personal
x,
y
and
z,
28
and
21
do
not
have
the
impact
that
it
has
on
me.
I
It
has
an
impact
on
one,
the
people
of
my
district
who
are
asking
to
unify
the
neighborhood
where
they
can
be
unified
and
two
that's
District
Six,
and
it
creates
an
issue
for
the
most
marginalized
communities
in
the
city
in
District
Five
to
be
able
to
effectively
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice.
That
is
what
is
happening
here,
and
so,
although
I,
don't
argue,
I
think
yes,
absolutely,
let's
get
a
special.
I
I
So
again,
yes,
fine,
great
dilly
dally
and
let's
talk
about
what's
in
front
of
us,
which
is
the
impact
that
it's
going
to
have
on
people,
28
and
21
should
be
in
District
Six.
If
we
really
say
that
we're
caring
about
quote-unquote
communities
of
Interest,
particularly
in
District
Five
and
in
and
are
along
the
border
of
District
Four,.
B
Thank
you,
councilada
I
also
just
want
to
point
out.
Someone
has
pointed
out
to
me
that
28,
because
it's
been
in
your
District,
it's
listed
as
Rosendale
on
your
website
and
in
your
bio
foreign
yeah.
You
can
respond
to.
H
That
yeah,
it
definitely
has
West
Roxbury
in
it.
I,
don't
know
why
we
keep
doing
this
weird
thing:
it's
a
Roslindale,
West,
Roxbury
Precinct,
it's
same
thing
with
21.
Just
like
1912
is
a
Jamaica
Plain,
Roslindale
Precinct.
The
judge
calls
it
the
Roslindale
Precinct.
Some
people
would
call
it
a
JP.
Precinct
neighborhood
lines
are
pretty
much
all
over
the
place,
depending
on
who
you
talk
to
whether
it's
the
post
office,
whether
it's
the
bpda,
who
doesn't
have
the
same
lines
as
the
election
Department.
These
are
all
subjective
to
folks
in
those
neighborhoods.
H
What
I
would
say
is
there's
definitely
02132
zip
codes.
There
are
definitely
streets
within
28
that
are
labeled
as
West
Roxbury.
There
are
definitely
addresses
in
28
who
are
02132,
which
is
a
West
Roxbury,
zip
code.
I.
Don't
know
why
this
is
like
a
point
that
we're
going
to
come
back
to
it
is
a
West
Roxbury,
Roslindale
Precinct,
and
what
I
would
say
in
regard
to
that.
H
Is
that
what
the
judge
made
clear
when
we
were
talking
about
16,
1
and
16-3,
and
trying
to
unite
Saigon
Little
Saigon
or
when
we
were
adding
1912
and
18
7
back
into
District
Five,
so
that
we
could
unite
parts
of
Rosendale
where
we
can
make
a
change
one
small
change
that
unifies
a
neighborhood?
That's
that's
a
redistricting
principle
that
we
should
do
I
know.
Councilor
Braden's
had
her
her
light
on
for
a
while
here,
so
I
think.
Perhaps
she
can
get
into
a
lot
of
these
details
as
the
Cherry
redistricting
I've.
H
Stopped
talking,
I
will
turn
to
her
well
I'm,
just
talking
because
everybody
keeps
acting
like
I,
don't
know
what
my
district
looks
like.
I
know
that
that
is
a
Roslindale
West
Roxbury
Precinct,
just
like
I
know,
21
is
a
West
Roxbury
Roslindale
Precinct,
just
like
I
know,
1912
is
a
Ross
and
Bill
JP
Precinct.
We
can
talk
all
day
about
whether
or
not
it
is
or
it
isn't,
but
that
doesn't
make
it
any
less
true
that
there
is
West
Roxbury
in
28,
just
like
there's
Roslindale
in
28..
Nobody
is
debating
that.
H
H
It's
not
going
to
make
any
difference
to
the
fact
that
the
truth
is,
you
could
still
unify
all
of
West
Roxbury
with
moving
that
one
Precinct
we
can
say
whatever
we
want.
You
can
say,
there's
more
Roslindale
in
that
Precinct
than
West
Roxbury
I
would
agree
with
you,
but
that
doesn't
make
it
less
true
that
there
are
West
Roxbury
streets
in
that
Precinct
and
that
by
putting
it
into
District
Six,
you
would
unify
West
Roxbury.
That's
a
true
argument.
You
can't
say
it's
not
just
because
you
want
to.
H
H
But
what
this
does
is
it
separates
already
unified
Community
within
District
6,
and
it
prevents
us
from
the
ability
to
do
that
all
while
making
sure
that
we're
diluting
the
matapan
vote
chair
so
like
I,
don't
know
what
we're
talking
about
is
basically
what
I'm
saying
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
there's
some
West
Roxbury
or
not.
West,
Roxbury
and
I
talked
to
my
friend
Steve
and
he
said
that's
sort
of
West
Rock's
great,
but
sometimes
they
call
the
rosin,
though
that
makes
no
difference
to
me.
H
There's
streets
in
that
in
that
Precinct
that
are
absolutely
Roslindale
and
their
streets
in
that
Precinct.
That
are
absolutely
West
Roxbury
and
that's
not
debatable
whether
we
think
it's
a
lot
or
a
little.
It's
still,
not
debatable
if
you
put
28
into
district
6,
it
unifies
all
of
West,
Roxbury
and
I.
Think
part
of
what
makes
this
fascinating
is
that
the
District,
5
and
district
6
counselors
are
both
in
agreement
on
what
their
line
should
look
like
and
yet
there's
been
no
movement
on
this
map,
and
so
I.
H
Don't
know
why
we're
doing
that
to
protect
the
ability
to
dilute
votes
in
Mattapan,
but
that
seems
to
be
where
we're
at
and
so
I
don't
know
why
I
would
add
anything
more
to
that.
It's
just
the
fact
that
there's
this
insistence
that
it's
rosin,
those
rosins,
it's
not
all
Rosendale
and
I,
don't
know
why
we
keep
pretending
it
is.
You
have
two
counselors
who
both
represent
district
6
and
District
Five,
who
are
making
clear
that
it's
not.
L
L
I
want
to
go
back
to
Dr
hanley's
conclusion
in
her
report,
because
I
think
the
Voting
is
all
is
often
racially
polarized
in
Boston
Municipal
elections,
particularly
in
preliminary
elections.
We
keep
saying
this
over
and
over
again
as
a
consequence,
districts
that
provide
minority
voters
with
an
opportunity
to
elect
their
candidates
of
choice
should
be
maintained.
L
So
we
shouldn't
be
messing
around
with
this
we've
got.
We've
got
a
record
of
a
district
districts
that
elect
are
able
to
elect
the
candidates
of
their
choice
and
we
shouldn't
be
messing
with
it
and
we
don't
have
the
we
don't
have
access
to
the
analysis
that
we
did
in
the
first
in
the
first
enacted
map.
We
we
did
a
lot
of
analysis
in
that
scenario
and
we
certainly
don't
have
time
to
do
an
analysis
on
this
map
before
we've
all
done
it.
L
L
The
other
thing
that
really
when
we
took
when,
when
we
took
part
and
when
we
started
the
when
we
took
on
the
CH
when
I
first
took
on
the
chair,
the
first
thing
that
we
did
was
to
reach
out
to
the
plaintiffs
of
the
first
lawsuits
against
the
city,
city
and
state
redistricting
and
decade
after
decade.
The
Latino
political
action
committee
versus
the
city
of
Boston
they've
been
doing
this
for
decades,
arguing
and
fighting
over
this
issue.
L
B
Thank
you,
Council,
Brighton
and
I
agree
that
we
should
be
making
sure
that
we
are
maintaining
majority
minority
districts
with
minority
opportunity,
districts,
councilor,
Bay
I,
don't
know
who
had
their
lights
on
first,
so
whoever
counselor
Baker.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I've
compromised
and
people
saying
that
I'm
not
compromising
is
kind
of
disingenuous
I.
Have
what
seven
moves
here
now
more
than
everybody
and
I've
I've
accepted
precincts.
It
took
a
it,
took
a
federal
court
suit
caught
action
for
you
guys
to
pay
attention
to
District
three,
which
I
was
part
of
which
I
proudly
helped
to
fund
and
will
continue
to
fund.
Don't
forget,
we
won,
you
guys
were
wrong.
Didn't
pay
any
attention
to
me:
okay,
Frank!
No.
C
F
To
say
that
I
don't
want
to
go
into
the
into
the
south
end
I've
got
I've
got
four
precincts
in
the
South
End
I
want
to
come
back
to
Dorchester,
but
the
little
snippy
comments
about
people
suing
and
this
and
that
I
I
I.
It
had
to
happen
because
this
body
was
wrong.
This
body
operated
not
in
good
faith.
This
body
hurt
people
and
it's
shown
that
they
discriminated
against
people,
and
it
was
fine
when
50
50
of
the
people
that
would
have
been
a
disrespect
free
in
the
disunity
map.