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From YouTube: Committee on Civil Rights on August 21, 2020
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Docket #0795 - A Hearing regarding the epidemic of violence against transgender and gender non-conforming people
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Not
able
to
see
anything
right
now,
because
we
have
the
slide
up
for
recording
purposes
so
once
you're
ready
to
get
started,
we'll
start
recording
and
we'll
take
the
slide
down.
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All
right,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
before
we
start
recording
and
going
live.
Is
that
I'm
having
a
really
bad
internet
connection
issues,
there's
an
equity
issue
in
my
neighborhood,
so
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
my
internet,
so
that
said,
council
breeding
you
may
have
to
step
in
and
facilitate,
and
so
I
hope
that
you
are
ready,
willing
and
able
to
step
in.
I.
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F
And
and
jacob
do
you
have
the
list
of
panelists
as
well?
I
know
we
were
still
working
on
it
up
until
you
know
a
little
while
ago,
if
you
could
send
it
over
to
me,
I'd
be
great.
A
Yeah
and
council
breeding,
I
think,
in
the
interest
of
of
elevating
the
voices
of
the
people
I'm
going
to
start
with.
If
there
are
any
people
with
public
testimony,
I
want
to
start
with
the
public
testimony.
First,
I
don't
think
we
have
a
lot
of
people
signed
up,
so
I
just
kind
of
want
to
set
the
tone
with
the
voices
of
the
people.
First
is
that,
okay,
you
feel
comfortable
with.
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A
I
think
that's
how
we
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
just
because
we're
trying
to
also
keep
this
within
the
two
hour.
Mark
yeah
that'll
be
good
super,
hey
yeah!
So
no
we're
all
going
to
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
that
and
I'm
going
to
be
extremely
making
a
lot
of
noise
and
anybody
that's
going
over.
So
all
panelists
need
to
know
that
they
got
you
know
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
and
we
got
to
just
keep
it.
A
I
have
yeah.
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A
A
I
see
I
see
friend
is
in
the
house.
What's
the
time
limit,
the
time
limit
is,
I
think,
five
minutes.
A
Okay,
it's
one
o'clock.
I
think
we
should,
in
the
interest
of
beginning
and
ending
on
time,
is
everyone
camera
ready?
I
can't
see
y'all
like
I
can't
see
the
whole
entire
view,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
ready
to
go
that
your
camera,
ready
that
you
feel
ready
to
start
the
live
record
which
we.
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B
Yes,
I
believe
we're
still
waiting
on
chastity
who
said
that
she
would
be
just
a
little
bit
late
and
then
other
than
that.
I
believe
we
have
everyone.
Then
we
just.
B
We
are
still
waiting
on
richard
who
just
appeared
in
the
attendees
list.
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A
No
wait,
I
you
don't
do
that
until
I
tell
you,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gabbling
us
in
right.
Now
I'm
calling
this
hearing
to
order
for
the
record
good
afternoon.
Everyone.
I
am
city
councilor
at
large
and
chair
of
the
committee
on
civil
rights,
julia
mejia,
it's
friday
august,
the
21st
2020-
and
we
are
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
0795
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
the
epidemic,
violence
against
transgender
and
gender
non-conforming
people.
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A
In
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12
2020
executive
modify
order,
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
from
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meetings
in
public
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
via
zoom.
This
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health
accommodation
and
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
A
The
public
may
watch
this
meeting
via
live
stream
at
www,
dot,
gov,
slash
city,
slash,
council
dash
tv.
It
will
also
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date
on
comcast
8,
rcn,
82
verizon
1964.
for
public
testimony.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
at
ccc.civilrights
boston.gov
and
we
will
make
and
will
make
a
part
of
the
recorded
and
available
to
all
counselors
recognizing
our
colleagues.
In
order
of
arrival.
I
also
am
joined
with
my
counselors
colleagues
counselor
flynn
from
district
2
and
at-large
counselor
asapi
george
and
our
co-sponsor
counselor
liz
breden.
A
Our
expected
speakers
today
include
elin
munter,
president
of
the
lgbtq
senior
housing
terrell,
andre
valentine
executive
director
of
the
mass
transgender
political
coalition,
kumar
porter
from
boston
glass,
miss
tanya,
vee,
executive,
director
of
mass
equity,
avadro
cavaro
from
the
boston
humans,
rights,
commission
and
chastity
body
transgender
emergency
fund.
A
I
would
like
to
begin
with
a
brief
opening
statement.
We're
here
for
lots
of
reasons.
Now
let
me
put
on
my
glasses
y'all,
because
I
gotta
say
this
better
we're
here
for
a
lot
of
reasons
we're
here,
because
it
is
in
2020,
more
transgender
individuals
have
been
murdered
than
any
any
year
before
it
we're
here,
because
the
city
of
boston
needs
to
address
and
take
accountability
for
the
murders
that
took
place
in
our
city,
not
just
reader,
rita,
hayster
or
monica
thompson,
georgette,
harris,
monique,
rogers
and
more
we're
here,
because
we
should.
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A
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
conversation,
because
we
have
an
intergenerational
panel
here
with
people
from
a
variety
of
backgrounds,
from
housing
to
public
health,
to
civic
engagement,
and
if
anyone
knows
anything
about
our
office,
we're
always
about
all
means
all,
and
everyone
has
a
seat
at
this
table
to
ensure
that
every
voice
is
heard.
Thank
you
to
everyone
who
has
shown
up
and
we're
excited
to
get
started.
A
F
No
sorry,
I
better
read
myself,
it
helps.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
pleased
to
sponsor
this
summer.
Yet,
okay,
because
you
kind.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
You
know
I've
lost
one
of
the
lost
now
he's
still
here.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
pleased
to
sponsor
this
summer,
yet
critically
important
topic
of
addressing
the
epidemic
of
violence
against
transgender
and
gender
non-conforming
people
as
a
district,
as
as
the
district
council,
council,
district,
nine
city
councillor
for
austin
brighton,
I
want
to
uplift
and
acknowledge
and
name
the
memorialization
of
rita
hester,
a
black
transgender
woman
who
was
murdered
in
austin
in
1998,
which
spurred
the
recognition
of
the
annual
international
trans
day
of
remembrance
every
november.
F
The
senseless
violence
against
trans
folks
has
been
going
on
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
since
before
the
covenant
pandemic.
Yet,
like
other
pertinent
social
issues,
the
pandemic
has
exacerbated
the
lives
of
its
impact
on
the
lives
of
lgbtq
folks,
particularly
trans
people.
F
According
to
the
human
rights
campaign
in
2019,
there
were
27
violent
deaths
of
trans
folks
and
with
21
violent
deaths
this
year.
So
far
in
2020
we
are
on
track
to
for
it
to
be
the
deadliest
year
for
trans
people,
while
75
of
the
voters
in
boston
voted
voted
to
uphold
the
protections
for
trans
people
in
public
accommodations.
F
This
conversation
today
is
critically
important
to
ensure
that
our
city,
services,
agencies
and
programs
adequately
address
the
needs
of
lgbtq
community,
particularly
black
and
brown
trans
women.
We
have
much
more
to
do
for
trans
folks,
but
just
not
just
the
names
of
those
who
make
the
deadlines
if
they
do
at
all.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
many
panelists
who
who
are
on
public
testimony
and
getting
to
work
on
how
to
better
serve
the
community.
The
members
of
the
lgtb
lgbtq
community
in
boston.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
breeding.
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
I'm
having
severe
internet
issues,
so
if,
if
you
all
can
hear
me,
can
someone
say
yes.
A
I'm
going
to
take
myself
off
a
video,
in
the
sake
of
just
trying
to
preserve
whatever
little
internet
access
I
have
so.
I
apologize
on
on
on
my
internet's
behalf,
so
in
the
spirit
of
leading
with
the
voices
of
the
people,
we're
gonna
do
things
a
little
bit
different
and
we
are
going
to
start
off
the
conversation
with
public
testimony.
A
A
A
If
any
jacob,
can
you
help
me
with
identifying
whether
or
not
we
have
anyone
set
for
public
testimony.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
first
call
on
susan
helmy,
please.
If
so,
if
we
can
make
sure
that
she's
is
off
muted.
That
would
be
great.
A
And
actually,
you
know
what,
in
the
interest
of
just
making
sure
that
we
are
really
mindful
of
pronouns?
If,
when
you
introduce
yourself,
can
you
just
let
us
know
what
your
preferred
pronouns
are.
I
go
with
the
she
series
just
because
I
think
it's
important
for
us
not
to
make
those
assumptions
and
susan
I
apologize
when
you
introduce
yourself,
can
you
just
please
let
us
know
what
your
preferred
pronouns
are
susan.
You
now
have
the
floor.
A
H
If
I
may
briefly,
this
is
ivana
cavallo
executive
director
of
the
boston
rights
commission.
Susan,
is
part
of
my
team.
I
told
her
to
come
in
and
help
help
me
with
notes.
I
wasn't
sure
how
long
the
meeting
was
going
so
she's
sticking
around
so
she's,
not
essentially
she's
here
in
the
official
capacity
as
the
executive
assistant
of
the
boston
rights
commission.
F
H
A
F
I
think
I
think
we
may
have
lost
you
kinds
from
here:
you've
lost.
F
F
Sound
yeah,
I
think
I
think
I
will
step
in
as
a
and
ask
richard
dahil
from
the
lgbtq
liaison
of
the
boston
police
department.
Richard
are
you
ready
to
make
your
testimony.
F
Madam
chair,
I
in
your
absence
I
asked
our
first
panelist
to
to
to
to
speak,
so
I
think
I
called
on
richard
day
hill.
I
didn't
know
how
long
you
were
going
to
be.
A
A
Sure
if
I
had
called
on
flynn
sorry,
I
just
want
to
give
our
colleagues
I'm
so
sorry,
guys
and
girls
and
everyone
else.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
give
everyone
an
opportunity,
our
council
colleagues,
to
share
a
few
open,
okay
remarks.
G
Thank
you
council
me
here.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
councillor
mejia
and
council
braden
for
sponsoring
this
hearing,
bringing
attention
to
to
this
important
and
critical
issue.
I
know
council
mejia
in
councillor
braden
have
been
involved
in
active
on
this
issue
and
other
issues
that
impact
the
lives
of
lg
lgbtq
neighbors
for
many
years.
So
we
respect
the
work
that
you
have
been
doing.
G
G
G
G
I
just
want
to
highlight
a
neighbor
from
south
boston,
rich
dahil,
who
works
at
a
boston
place
that
does
an
exceptional
job
of
outreach
on
on
this
critical
issue
always
had
great
respect
for
rich
and
and
his
family
as
well.
So
thank
you,
councillor
brayden
and
thank
you
councillor,
mejia.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
councillor
flynn
we're
gonna
now
go
to
counselor,
andrea
campbell
in
district
four.
You
now
have
the
floor.
J
Thank
you,
council,
mejia,
and
thank
you
council
braden
for
the
partnership.
Aiden.
Also
thanks
everyone
here
and
and
as
we
already
know,
you
know
this
issue
of
violence
against
our
lgbtq
community,
particularly
our
trans
community,
and
our
black
and
brown
trans
community
is
a
major
issue.
It
was
long
before
covent
19
and
it
has
continued
so
I
appreciate
it:
councilor
braden,
bringing
the
the
data
and
the
stats.
J
So
I'm
here
to
listen,
of
course,
to
continue
to
partner
in
this
work
and
do
everything
I
can
not
only
to
make
sure
that
people
are
aware
of
this
issue,
but
that
we
offer
solutions
at
the
local
level
to
solve,
for
it
and
I'll
just
add.
You
know
I
have
a
very
diverse
district
and
this
population
that
we're
discussing
today
in
the
context
of
violence,
of
course,
cares
about
housing.
There's
some
innovative
things
going
on
in
the
housing
space.
J
Health
inequities,
domestic
violence,
you
name
it
every
issue
is
relevant
and
and
this
population
of
folks,
particularly
our
trans
community,
are
often
left
out
of
the
conversation
or
not
at
the
table.
So
I
think
we
as
a
city-
all
of
us,
probably
have
to
do
better
and
I'm
excited
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation
and,
lastly,
want
to
thank
alvandro,
cavallo
and
his
team
at
the
human
rights
commission.
That's
important
work
that
you
guys
are
doing,
and
it
definitely
connects
to
this
topic.
J
I
know
counselor
edwards
and
I
started
some
of
the
work
there
with
councillor
zaikum
and
then
continuing
that
with
councillor
flynn,
because
that
commission
has
tremendous
power
to
really
help
in
terms
of
a
wide
range
of
discrimination
cases
for
this
population,
and
so
many
so
thank
you
for
your
work
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and,
lastly,
and
you
know,
I'm
holding
my
my
little
one
here,
often
throughout
throughout
all
these
zooms,
and
I
want
folks
to
know
that
we
see
you
we
hear
you.
J
I
do
hope
that
there
will
be
public
testimony,
but
I
think
this
population
in
particular
when
we
say
black
lives
matter.
We
often
have
to
add
a
name
that
the
trans
community,
the
lgbtq
community,
also
matter
and
so
really
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
and
again,
thank
you.
So
much
to
the
makers,
this
is
critical,
so
thank
you
both
ladies.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
counselor
campbell
I'd
like
to
invite
counselor
asabi
george
at
large.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
yourself
and
the
the
maker
council
braden
for
bringing
this
before
us
today.
We
think
about
the
work
as
government
officials,
we
think
about
the
work
that
we're
charged
with
as
policy
makers
and
legislators
and
the
work
of
city
government.
It
is
to
represent
and
work
for
those
that
feel
the
least
heard
and
the
least
represented,
and
they
are
often
the
most
vulnerable.
K
So
when
we
think
about
the
work
that's
before
us
every
single
day,
and
I
think
especially
about
my
work
and
the
focus
of
my
efforts
around
education
and
access
to
education,
when
I
think
about
my
work,
around
substance,
use
disorders
and
homelessness
and
access
to
mental
health
services,
this
community
in
particular,
is
often
the
the
one
that
is
the
most
left
out
of
not
just
the
access,
but
the
conversations
and
the
dialogue
to
to
create
better
access
and
better
services.
K
So
you
know,
I
think,
about
our
role
and
not
just
the
the
importance
of
having
the
conversation
but
the
critical
nature
of
the
work
that
is
ahead
in
the
work
that
remains
undone
every
single
day.
This
this
important
conversation
today
certainly
will
guide
what
is
left
undone
and
what
needs
to
still
happen.
K
So
I
look
forward
to
participating,
but
I
look
most
most
forward
to
hearing
what
those
action
items
are,
because
I
think
we
for
the
most
part
know
what
they
are
but
to
hear
them
and
to
have
them
reinforced,
especially
those
with
lived
experience
and
the
the
expertise
of
the
experience
to
inform
those
decisions
in
the
work.
That's
ahead.
This
is
this
is
critical
for
us
to
do
so.
I
appreciate
the
time
this
afternoon
for
everyone
who
was
involved
in
the
panelists
for
sure.
Thank
you,
madam.
A
Chair
you
thank
you.
I
moved
down,
hopefully
that
I'm
closer
to
the
modem,
so
hopefully
you'll
be
able
to
see
and
hear
me
so
apologize
for
all
of
the
technical
difficulties.
I
do
I
I
don't
see
any
other
colleagues
here.
I
would
like
to
in
the
interest
of
time
in
honoring,
and
I
mean
you
needed
to
leave
a
little
bit
earlier,
so
would
love
to
open
up
with
you
and
then
go
to
richard.
A
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
the
heads
up
that
richard
you'd
be
going
next,
but
before
before
you
do,
eileen
is
going
to
be
giving
us
a
presentation.
So
we'll
start
with
you
eileen.
We
now
have
the
floor.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
I'm
eileen
montour
pronouns
are
she
hers
and
I'm
with
lgbtq
senior
housing
inc
and
actually,
I
think
all
of
you
counselors
know,
because
we've
received
your
support
and
we
appreciate
it
for
developing
the
first
in
boston,
lgbtq,
friendly
senior
housing,
mixed
income,
mostly
for
affordable
50
of
75
units
affordable.
C
So
we
are,
as
you
know,
building
75
units
in
hyde
park
and
you
might
ask
so
how
will
we
sustain
that
lgbt
identity
and
how
will
it
help
our
community
we'll
have
a
presence
and
an
ongoing
relationship
with
both
the
lgbt
aging
project?
Lgbtq
senior
housing
will
actually
have
offices
in
the
building
and
a
presence
we'll
have
ongoing.
Lgbtq
friendly
programming
have
on
ongoing
lgbtq
cultural
competency,
training
for
all
of
the
staff,
we'll
have
welcoming
signage
and
related
artwork
and
displays
and
we'll
be
doing
continuous
community
outreach
for
residents
as
well.
C
This
will
serve
as
basically
sort
of
an
lgbtq
senior
center.
We'll
have
ongoing
program
services
congregate
meal
sites
in
this
location,
so
we'll
definitely
strongly
keep
that
identity,
and
whoever
comes
will
know
that
you
know
discrimination
or
anything
of
that
sort
would
not
be
welcome
in
this
facility,
and
we
have
intentionally
over
all
these
years
of
preparing
and
laying
the
groundwork.
We've
been
to
the
hyde
park
community
repeatedly
so
many
times
to
the
neighborhood
groups
and
the
different
organizations-
and
you
know
community
programs
to
tell
them
right
from
the
very
beginning.
C
This
would
be
an
lgbt
friendly
senior
community
and
we've
been
warmly
welcomed.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
advocacy
and
education
along
the
way,
so
I
think
again
having
a
safe
place
to
live.
For,
especially
you
know,
all
of
us
lgbtq,
but
especially
the
trans
community
and
trans
community
of
color.
This
would
be
a
safe
welcoming
addition,
and
I
would
say
this
is
our
first
one.
First,
one
in
boston,
it's
actually
the
first
one
in
all
of
new
england,
and
that
being
said,
we're
not
one
and
done
so.
C
K
F
F
Going
to
happen-
and
I
know
for
older
and
for
older
folks
in
the
lgbt
community-
very
often
when
they
were
young
people
and
growing
up
in
their
communities,
they
had
to
hide.
F
It
was
a
very,
very
difficult
time
and
many
of
them
moved
away
from
their
home
communities
and
and
became
more
anonymous
in
big
cities.
But
I
I
know
how
difficult
that
that
time
was-
and
I'm
so
grateful
to
you
and
your
and
your
your
all,
your
colleagues
and
other
activists
for
all
the
great
work
you've
done,
because
I
think
this.
This
is
offering
a
lot
of
older,
lgbt
folks
a
safe
haven
as
they
age,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
Thank
you.
A
I
I
really
do
appreciate
com
council
greeting
you
are
stepping
it
up.
I
you're
such
a
great
co-sponsor
because
you're
helping
me
facilitate
every
time.
My
internet
goes
off.
I'm
just
curious,
if
also,
if
any
of
my
other
colleagues
are
interested
or
asking
any
questions,
or
I
know
you
are
pressed
for
time,
I
mean,
and
I
don't
want
to
hold
you
hostage,
but
I'm
wondering
if
any
of
our
colleagues
you
want
to
show
a
blue
hand.
Oh,
I
see
anissa
counselor
zombie
george,
you
not
have
the
floor.
K
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair.
I
couldn't
find
my
blue
hand
I'm
on
my
phone,
usually
I'm
on
my
laptop,
so
I
don't
know
I
can
easily
access
my
blue
hands
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
presentation.
I
do
as
an
at
large
counselor.
We
spent
a
great
deal
of
time
in
hyde
park.
K
You
know
supporting
this
project
but
hearing
from
constituents
about
this
project,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
to
some
of
the
negative
experiences,
because
it
was
really
surprising
to
hear
some
of
the
challenges
that
you
faced
in
developing
and
pulling
together
this
project,
and
I
think
that
really
speaks
to
some
of
what
we're
discussing
here
today.
K
C
So
again
we
went
we
started.
We
went
to
the
board
of
trade
and
the
main
streets
and
again
all
the
neighborhood
associations,
beginning
in
the
summer
of
2016.,
so
we've
been
back
several
times
and
most
people
were
interested
and
there
were
a
few
people
who
were
well,
not
nice,
but
there
were
very
few.
There
were
just
a
couple
of
them
and
I
think
they
had
personal
issues
and
the
rest
of
the
community
actually
helped
to
address
those
folks.
C
C
So
people
are
strongly
welcoming
of
this
to
my
own
great
amazement,
but
it's
been
very
pleasant
to
experience
that
and
I
think
folks
are
thinking
like
maybe
I'll
apply
to
come
live
there.
You
know
because
it's
welcoming
and
inclusive
of
everyone,
not
just
lgbtq
folks,
so
I
think
it's
it's
been
very
warmly
received.
I
mean
it
was
challenging
waiting
for
the
building
to
become
available
for
development.
You
know
we
had
to
wait,
but
it's
happening
we're
going
forward.
K
A
Thank
you,
thank
you
and
you,
okay,
I
see
counselor
campbell,
your
hand
is
up.
You
have
the
floor,.
J
Thank
you.
I
won't
take
too
much
time
just
so
we
can
get
to
the
panelists,
but
eileen
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this
project
and
engaging
all
the
counselors
on
this
project.
Usually
you
know
I'm
a
district
counselor's
district
by
district
so
really
appreciated
your
intentionality
for
us
to
to
work
with
you
on
this
this
historic
project.
J
I
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
council
mccarthy
too,
obviously,
the
previous
counselor
for
district
five,
who
did
a
lot
of
work
and
making
sure
all
of
us
on
the
council
were
included
in
a
part
of
their
conversations
for
such
a
historic
project.
But
thank
you
con
here
to
continue
to
support
you
in
the
work.
So
thank
you
very
much
eileen.
Thank
you,
kelvin.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
Thank
you
thank
you
councilman
here
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
eileen
as
well.
I
look
forward
to
you
know,
supporting
the
project
up
at
the
zba
and
and
I'm
so
glad
that
you
included
all
the
city
councils
even
councils
outside
of
the
district,
so
it
was
great
to
sit
down
with
with
with
some
people
and
learn
about
the
project,
and
I'm
so
glad
that
you
reached
out
to
reached
out
to
all
of
the
city
councillors
to
educate
us
on
the
importance
of
such
a
project.
C
A
Or
someone
I
just
understand,
really
excited
and
congratulations
on
completing
this
project.
I
do
hope
that
it's
not
one
and
done
and
that
we
have
more
opportunities
to
serve
more
seniors
because
that
situ
you
know
the
the
need
is
great.
So
congratulations
and
happy
that
you
were
able
to
join
us
this
this
afternoon.
I'm
going
to
move
on.
You
are
welcome
to
stay.
A
Let
you
free
if
you
need
to
go,
it's
all
good
in
the
interest
and
thank
you
again
for
being
here
in
the
interest
of
moving
things
along
and
because
we
do
have
time
constraints,
I'm
going
to
ask
each
of
our
panelists
if
we
could
keep
it
no
more
than
for
the
for
the
questions
from
our
panelists
to
no
more
than
five
minutes,
I'm
gonna
go
on
now
to
oops
I
did
I
I
mean
if
you're
still
here,
I
do
have
a
quick
question.
Are
you
still
here?
A
I
am
yes.
Can
you
just
go
before
I
release
you?
Sorry.
Can
you
just
go
a
little
bit
into
depth
about
the
specific
protections
that
are
in
place
for
transgender
people
when
it
comes
to
finding
affordable
housing,
specifically
for
those
seeking
shelter
or
currently
living
who
are
unsheltered?
At
this
point,.
C
I'm
I'm
afraid
I'm
not
your
expert
on
that.
I'm
just
focused
like
say
like
a
laser
on
getting
this
one
done,
so
we
have
a
place
for
people
to
live
and
again
with
senior
62.
You
know
I
wish
I
knew
more.
I
wish
there
were
more.
I
don't
think
there
probably
is
too
much
since
this
is
unique
in
the
first,
like
you
say,
historic
living
community.
That
would
be
what
would
be
so
welcoming
and
safe.
A
So
then,
maybe
this
could
be
a
good
model
for
us
to
point
to
yes
to
serve
either
different
age
populations
and
yeah
okay.
So
it's
a
good
model
and
a
good
case
study
for
what
it
looks
like
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
I'd
like
to
now
continue
with
the
rest
of
our
panel,
starting
with
richard
the
hill.
L
Actually,
I
am
getting
ready,
but
I
don't
know
why
I'm
not
showing
up
regardless.
My
name
is
richard
dahil.
He
him
and
I
am
a
boston,
police,
deputy
superintendent
and
I
am
the
liaison
to
the
lgtbq
plus
community.
L
The
first
thing
I
was
going
to
talk
about
is
our
outreach
that
we
use
in
the
department
pre
covered
19.
We
had
an
lgtbq
plus
public
safety
meeting
about
every
six
weeks,
and
that
was
that
was
like
a
combination
of
law
enforcement
partners
as
well
as
advocates
so
included
in
those
meetings.
Were
the
fbi,
the
boston
police,
the
state
police,
us
attorney's
office,
the
attorney
general's
office
and
so
on.
The
advocate
side
of
people
who
were
invited
were
the
organizers
of
the
first
event.
L
The
fenway
community
help
bagley
glad
the
masses,
massachusetts,
transgender,
political
coalition,
jri
and
the
trans
emergency
fund.
We're
all
invited
to
go
to
these
meetings
and
they
were
held
about
every
six
weeks.
Originally,
they
were
held
at
boston
police
headquarters,
and
I'm
going
to
be
honest.
They
really
weren't
that
well
attended.
L
You
know
glad
was
always
pretty
much
there
and
the
fenway
community
health
was
pretty
much
always
there.
Boston
pd
was
always
there
in
the
fbi.
So
we
changed
over
at
the
request
to
the
advocates
to
have
meetings
at
different
locations.
They
felt
that
having
the
meetings
at
headquarters
was
was
a
negative
in
terms
of
the
advocates
coming
to
respond.
L
So
we
switched
the
meetings
over
to
to
be
held
at
at
the
offices
of
glad
and
they
were
going
to
be
shaping
the
agenda
and
we,
I
think
we
held
three
meetings
there
and
then
covet
happened
and
the
meetings
have
sort
of
been
put
aside
for
now,
and
we
also,
I
also
worked
a
lot
with
the
organizers
of
first
event.
The
first
event
is
a
if
you're
not
familiar
with
it.
L
It's
a
it's
a
conference
for
trans,
gender,
men
and
women,
and
it
is
the
first
time
that
they
had
it
this
year.
It
was
in
in
boston
previously
it
was
held
out
outside
in
in
some
of
the
suburbs,
and
they
have
this
conference
all
across
the
country
and
the
one
in
the
massachusetts
area
is
the
first
one
of
the
year.
So
that's
why
they
call
it
the
first
event,
so
I
I
did.
L
I
did
work
with
them
in
helping
bring
it
into
boston
for
the
first
time
it
was
successful,
and
that
was
it's
always
around.
Well,
that
was
in
like
the
same
weekend
as
super
bowl
sunday.
We
also
as
part
of
our
outreach
was
we
do
a
lot
of
the
planning
with
the
boston
pride
committee
and
again
you
know
I
mean
that
was
based
on
last
year.
This
year
it
was
mostly
done
by
zoom
meetings
until
it
was
finally
canceled.
L
We
also
the
boston
police
department,
participates
with
the
matthew,
shepard
foundation,
and
I
also
participated
in
the
human
rights
campaign
webinars
for
city
liaisons
to
the
lgtb
community
in
terms
of
training
that
the
department
offers
each
recruit
class
is
trained
in
lgbt
issues,
including
transgender
issues,
and
that
training
is
provided
by
the
fenway
community
health
center,
and
we
also
have
a
e-learning
class
on
issues
related
to
transgender.
That
officers
are
required
to
take.
L
L
L
Just
so,
you
have
an
idea
of
what
we're
dealing
with
so
in
in
2019,
we
had
118
cases
involving
lgtbq,
biased
incidences
and
of
those
10
involved.
Victims
who
were
transgender
five
of
those
victims
were
white,
four
were
black
and
one
was
asian
and
in
2020,
as
of
8
20.
This
this
month
we
had
59
incidents
involving
sexual
orientation,
bias,
four
involved
transgender
victims,
three
were
hispanic
and
one
was
white
part
of
the
problem
with
those
stats.
L
That
is
really
just
a
reflection
of
the
incident
that
were
investigated
by
the
civil
rights
unit,
and
I
I
think
sometimes
we
miss
out
on
that.
Some
of
the
victims,
including
transgender
victim,
could
also
be
victims
related
to
domestic
violence
or
sexual
assault
or
human
trafficking.
So
those
number
those
victims
wouldn't
necessarily
be
counted
in
terms
of
civil
rights,
and
I
think
we
sometimes
sort
of
we
missed
that.
A
I
just
wanted
to
just
give
you
a
little
time.
A
warning
is,
if
you
could
kind
of
in
the
next
20
seconds,
wrap
up
so
that
we
can
continue
to
ask
some
questions.
L
Okay,
all
right
and
the
the
last
thing
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
go
unreported
and
that's
something
that
we
need
to
work
on
is
is
making
sure
that
marginalized
people,
including
transgender,
feel
comfortable
in
reporting
any
crime
that
they
are
victim
of.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sorry
richard
that
we
have
to,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
answer
some
questions
from
our
colleagues,
so
wanted
to
just
be
super
mindful
of
time.
I
know
that
I
did
say
five
minutes.
I
gave
you
an
extra
few.
A
Owe
me
for
the
next
go
round
next
to
council
breeding.
You
now
have
the
floor
with
some
questions
for
richard.
Please.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
richard.
I'm
delighted
that
you're
there
and
doing
your
wonderful
work
in
the
bpd
raising
up
these
issues
and
then
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
afternoon
in
in
relation
to
moving
the
meetings
space
from
police
headquarters.
To
glad
did
you
notice
an
increase
in?
I
know
you
had
a
few
months,
but
did
you
know
and
notice
an
increase
in
participation
at
that
stage?
Did
that
make
a
difference.
L
The
first
one
was
very
well
very
well
attended
and
then
the
next
one
was
not
so
much
so
I
I
think
in
an
ideal
world
I
I
personally
would
like
to
go
to
different
advocacy
offices
like
like
almost
on
a
rotating
basis.
So
so
everybody
has
an
opportunity
to
to
to
host
the
meeting
and
sort
of
control
the
agenda,
but
it
was
a
little
bit
more
attendance,
especially
on
the
first
one
and
in
in
and
hopefully
once
we
stop
back
up
again.
F
Thank
you,
it
seems,
like
you
know,
as
an
lgbt
person
myself
going
into
unfamiliar
spaces,
especially
official
spaces.
When
I
was
a
lot
younger,
it
was
a
bit
daunting
at
times,
so
I
can
understand
people's
reticence
about
going
into
police
headquarters,
but
thank
you
for
moving
the
venue
and
rotating.
It
seems
like
a
great
idea.
I
also
had
a
question
about
in
in
in
the
instance
of
is
there?
Is
there
a
particular
hotline
for
lgbt
violence,
or
is
it
just
part
of
the
regular
reporting
site
system
within
the
bpd.
L
It's
just
part
of
the
regular
reporting
system
within
the
ppg.
I
we,
I
have
had
a
lot
of
instances
where
one
of
the
advocates
would
call
me
and
say
you
know
this
person
doesn't
feel
comfortable
about
making
the
report,
and
I
have
made
an
appointment
at
the
station
to
walk
the
person
in
to
go
through
the
process
so
that
they
feel
comfortable
with
me,
a
police
officer
coming
with
them
as
an
ally
as
they're,
making
the
reports
and-
and
that
has
been
somewhat
successful.
L
I've
only
done
it
a
couple
times,
I'm
more
than
more
than
happy
to
do
it
as
much
as
requested,
but
it
that
has
so
that
there
is
some
sort
of
reluctance.
I
think
for
for
some
members
of
this
population
not
to
want
to
interact
the
police
at
all.
That's
something
that
we
need
to
work
on.
F
Yeah,
I
also
wonder
you
know,
in
terms
of
the
statistics,
like
the
the
incidents
a
lot
of
these.
You
know,
there's
this
violence
out
on
the
street,
but
also
there's
violence
in
the
context
of
your
domestic
situation.
Like
do
and
are
there
any
statistics
about,
you
know
breaking
down
the
incidence
of
domestic
violence,
intimate
partner,
assaults
or
whatever?
L
No
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
try
to
look
into
that,
but
the
problem
is
that,
like
the
domestic
violence
unit,
human
trafficking
unit
and
sexual
assault
unit
do
not
necessarily
don't
track
victims
as
to
whether
or
not
if
they're
transgender,
but
they
do
provide
services.
So
we
have
a
family
justice
center
where
those
those
units
are
there
and
and
the
service
providers
do
work
with
transgender
they'll
work
with
any
of
the
victims.
L
But
they
have
a
system
in
place
to
to
assist
transgender
individuals
and
getting
the
services
that
they
need.
F
That's
very
helpful
to
know
also
I'm
concerned,
you
know
one
of
the
most
vulnerable
stages
of
your
life
as
a
young,
lgbt
person
is.
Is
that
stage
when
you're
sort
of
asserting
your
autonomy
and
and
finding
out
who
you
are
as
a
as
a
teenager?
And-
and
you
know
we
hear
cases
of
families
throwing
their
kids
out
in
the
street
or
assaulting
them
do
we
have
any
metrics
on
on
how
this
is
impacting
youth,
lgbt
youth.
L
I
I'm
gonna
say
it,
it
is
an
impact
and
you
know
I
mean
going
back
in
terms
of
my
own
personal
experience
at
that
age.
I
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
be
dealing
with
the
police
and.
I
L
I
think
that
reluctance
carries
through
so
like
so
like,
like
the
organization
badly,
does
not
necessarily
want
to
bring
police
officers
into
their
safe
space,
and
I
understand
that.
But
it
does
continue
to
sort
of
doesn't
help
in
in
developing
relationships
between
the
police
and
the
lgtb
community.
But
I
understand
that
you
know
I
mean
just
from
my
own
personal
experiences
that
you
might
want
to
go
to
a
a
safe
space
and
you
don't
necessarily
want
a
police
officer
coming
in
to
sort
of
invade
that
space.
F
In
terms
of
the
number
of
lgbt
officers
in
the
bpd,
do
you
have
any
any
statistics
on
that.
L
We
we
don't
and
and
again
we
we're
we're
sort
of
in
a
position
where
we
we
we
don't
ask
people
I
can
tell
you
from
from
the
boston
police
department,
is
that
we
have
a
a
sizable
population
of
lg,
lg,
lesbian,
gay
members,
definitely
of
the
department.
I
can
tell
you
that
a
good
sizeable
portion
are
in
the
upper
ranks
of
the
department,
but
it
is
not
something
that
that
we
have
numbers
on.
L
So
we
couldn't
say
we
have
10
or
or
15
of
the
department
is
a
lesbian
or
gay.
We
do.
We
do
not
have
at
this
time
any
transgender
officers.
I
think
there
might
be,
I
know
of
at
least
one
an
officer
mcqueen
who
works
at
a
worcester,
pd
and
who's
been
a
a
very
good
friend
of
mine
when
I
assumed
this
position
as
a
liaison.
L
F
When
I
came
to
boston
first,
my
first
day
pride
parade,
I
was
in
copley
square
and
I
walked
out
of
old
south
church
and
I
saw
the
mayor
of
boston
with
a
police,
color
guard
of
gay
and
lesbian
officers,
and
I
stood
and
cried
so.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
for
doing
that
job
and
thank
you
to
all
of
the
lgbt
and
all
the
all
the
lgbt
officers
and
the
police
department.
It's
very
important
that
you're
there.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
breeding.
I
am
going
to
see
it.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
bach,
so
she's
also
with
us,
and
I
would
like
to
give
our
colleagues
I
do
have
a
few
questions
for
richard,
but
I
wanted
to
buy
a
show
of
hands
or
just
wave.
A
If
any
of
my
colleagues
have
any
questions
and
then
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
have
the
panelists
all
speak
and
then
we'll
do
a
round
of
questions
with
everyone,
because
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
can
hear
from
everyone
first
and
then
do
questions
so
that
way,
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
to
be.
E
A
G
Councilman
here
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
to
deputy
dale
for
his
testimony,
but
his
important
work
on
on
this
issue
across
the
city.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
the
deputy,
if
he,
if
he
has
an
idea
of
lgbtq
domestic
violence
issues
and
a
lot
of
it,
I
I
would
assume,
is
unreported.
G
I
I
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with
councillor
campbell
and
visit
the
family
justices
institute,
but
do
we
have
a
sense
that
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
crimes
are
are
not
reported
in
in
in
maybe
we
have
to
do
more
public
awareness
campaigns
about
you
know,
services
that
are
that
are
available
to
victims
of
domestic
violence.
L
I
I
do
think
there
is
a
under
reporting
of
domestic
violence
among
both
men
and
women.
L
I
don't
think
it's
as
bad
as
unreported
as
it
was
say
10
years
ago,
15
years
ago,
as
we
become
more
accepted
as
part
of
the
community,
I
think
more
and
more
same-sex
culturals
are
taking
the
same
opportunities
that
a
a
regular
straight
couple
would
do
so
that,
if
they're
a
victim
of
violence,
they
will
call
9-1-1
or
they
will
build
themselves
the
services.
I
think
we
we
still
have
a
ways
to
go,
but
I
think
there
has
been
a
substantial
improvement
over
the
last
10
or
15
years.
L
We
we
don't
collect
stats,
or
rather
that's
not
really
true.
I
do
not
have
those
stats,
but
I
can
I
can,
when
I
get
back
in
in
the
office
on
monday,
I'll
double
check
to
see
if
I
can
get
the
stats
on
that
and
and
forward
it
to
you
in
in
and
I'm
I'm
on
vacation.
So
that's
why
I'm
not
in
uniform
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
but
I
I
will
get.
L
I
will
get
any
any
information
that
I
don't
get
to
you
now
I'll
get
it
to
you.
When
I
get
back
into
the
office
on
monday.
G
Thank
you
deputy.
Thank
you
for
all
your
work
and
again
thank
you
to
the
panelists
and
thank
you
councilman
here
and
councillor
braden
as
well.
A
Thank
you,
so
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
blue
hands.
I
do
have
a
few
questions,
so
just
really
curious
about.
Does
the
bpd
currently
track
acts
of
violence
against
trans
people?
Is
there
any
like
a
dashboard
or
any
type
of
tracking
system.
L
We
do
we
do
track
the
and
again
it
it's
more
for
retract
civil
rights
violations
related
to
transgender
individuals,
which
again
that's
sort
of
different
from
a
a
transgender
person
who
was
involved
in,
say,
a
domestic,
violent
incident
that
wouldn't
be
tracked
by
the
civil
rights
unit.
That
would
just
be
a
domestic
violence
issue
and
and
those
units
do
not
track
based
on
if
someone's,
transgender
or
not
they'll,
just
they,
they
have
their
own
tracking
system.
L
But
the
civil
rights
unit
does
track
in
terms
of
if
someone's,
transgender
or
or
whatever
their
sexual
orientation
might
be.
A
Do
you
see
any
benefit
towards
tracking
and
to
help.
L
I
identify
I
I
I
think,
and
I
I
had
prior
to
this
I
had
I
I
spoke
to
some
of
the
the
the
commanders
of
the
domestic
violence
unit,
the
sexual
assaults
unit
and
human
trafficking
unit
and
to
see
and-
and
they
have
had
some
some
incidents
involving
transgender
individuals,
but
they
don't
necessarily
track
on
that,
but
we
were
going
to
see
if
we
could
sort
of
pull
the
pull
that
information
from
our
records.
L
I
I
don't
necessarily
know
how
how
well
that
was
going
to
be,
because
so
say.
If,
if
someone
is
being
is,
is
who's
transgender
and
is
a
victim
of
human
trafficking?
I
don't
think
they
necessarily
think
of
that
as
a
sort
of
transaction
transgender
problem,
rather
than
just
a
human
trafficking
problem,
so
they
might
not
break
that
break
it
down
that
way,
but
we're
going
to
look
into
that
and
see
if
it,
if
that's
something
we
can
track.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
You
mentioned
that
there's
been
a
committing
community
meeting,
but
they
haven't
been
well
attended.
Besides
changing
location,
what
kind
of
other
ways
do
you
plan
on
boosting
attendance,
such
as
offering
food
and
these
programs?
Is
that
something
that
you
offer
you
can
consider
doing
in
the
future?.
L
I
I
missed
that.
Oh
you
know
I
mean
I
I
I
sort
of
laugh
a
little
bit
other
than
that,
because
one
of
the
advocates
did
complain
that
I
didn't.
I
didn't
give
them
any
food
at
the
meeting.
So
at
the
last
couple
of
meetings
we
did
provide
coffee
and
donuts
to
to
bring
people
in
but
yeah.
I
I
I
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is.
L
You
know
what
I
mean
and
I
understand
the
you
know
what
I
mean:
the
reluctance
for
some
groups
to
sort
of
meet
with
the
me
meet
with
me
at
with
the
police.
Unless
you
know
I
mean
it
seems
to
be.
They
really
don't
want
to
talk
to
me.
Unless
there
is
an
issue
right
then
that
they
want
to
deal
with,
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
just
as
at
the
meetings
have
provided
at
least
some
relationship.
L
So
they
know
if
they
want
to
talk
to
someone
with
the
boston
police
department,
they
can
give
me
a
call
or
they
can
shoot
me
an
email
and
then
they'll
get
they'll
get
a
response.
So
I
think
it's
it's
a
it's
just
a
process
of
of
building
bridges
and
and
for
some
advocates
and
organizations
just
to
be
more
familiar
with
me.
A
A
A
Okay,
I'm
so
sorry
about
that.
Okay,
so
before
I
disappear
again,
I
would
just
highly
advocate
that
food
is
definitely
one
a
really
great
way
to
engage
people.
This
is
the
last
question
that
I
have
what
policies
are
in
place
to
ensure
that
transgender
people
are
not
dna
by
police,
either
on
the
scene
or
afterwards.
L
I
I
yeah
you
sort
of
just
you
sort
of
dropped
out
and
part
of
that
question.
So
what
what
policies
do
we
have?
Oh,
we
have
a.
L
We
have
a
policy
all
right,
so
we
have
a
policy
that
was
created,
so
we
we
do
have
a
policy
and
it
was
a
special
order
that
was
issued
in
2013,
in
conjunction
or
in
in
working
with
the
the
mass
transgender
political
coalition
and
they
they
in
the
department
sort
of
crafted
a
a
policy
and-
and
part
of
that
does
include
that
you
know
we're
not
allowed
to
to
stop
someone
just
because
they're
transgender
we're
not
allowed
to
to
to
conduct
a
search
just
to
identify
who
they
are,
and
that
was
in
2013
and
then
we're
currently
in
updating
our
our
policy
and-
and
we
did
that,
based
on
the
recommendations
of
the
national
center
for
transgender
equality.
L
They
sort
of
did
a
whole
sort
of
top-to-bottom
review
about
policies
and
gave
us
recommendations.
We
have
input
well,
we
we
we,
we
crafted
some
new
policies
and
then
right
now,
they're
being
reviewed
by
the
bureau
chiefs
and
and
once
they
give
an
okay
with
that.
We
will
pass
the
new
policies
to
through
some
advocacy
group
to
to
look
it
over
to
before.
L
We
make
it
official
so
we're
in
that
process
right
now
and
hopefully
in
the
next
month
or
so
we'll
be
able
to
get
that
out
and
and
and
implement
it.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
it's
important
as
you
continue
to
work
on
that
to
let
our
office
know
I'm
the
chair
of
civil
rights,
so
it
just
you
know,
engage
our
office
in
this
process
as
well
as
keeping
the
line
of
communication
with
other
activist
groups
to
help
inform
the
thinking
that
would
be.
I
always
welcome
any
anything
that
so.
L
Absolutely
I
I
will
definitely
once
once
we
get
the
okay
from
the
bureau
chiefs.
I
will
forward
that
to
you
when
anyone
else
is
interested
any
of
the
advocacy
groups,
that's
interested
to
review
it
before
we
go
make
it
official.
A
Yeah,
that
would
be
great
and
in
the
interest
of
not
holding
everyone
here.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
again.
I
don't
see
my
colleagues
any
other
hands
up,
but
would
love
to
be
able
to
move
on
to
the
way
we're
going
to
move
forward.
Is
we're
going
to
have
our
panelists
each
share
some
remarks
and
then
we're
going
to
do
one
wave
of
questions?
A
Can
you
keep
taking
some
of
the
conversation
going
so
without
further
ado.
J
Uncle
campbell,
I
had
my
hand
up,
but
I
I
at
least
I
can't
see
you
it's
okay,
it's
okay!
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
deputy
and
I'll
keep
it
really
quick,
so
we
can
get
to
the
other
panelists.
I
know
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
their
time,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
him
for
his
work
that
he's
doing
every
single
day
in
the
department
in
the
community.
It's
really
fantastic.
J
We
probably
don't.
Thank
you
enough
deputies.
So
really
appreciative
of
your
work.
I
had
a
lot
of
questions
on
the
stats,
but
I
can
follow
up
with
you
as
chair
and,
of
course,
counselor
flynn
who
I'm
working
with
as
well.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you.
Council
mejia.
L
A
I
don't
know
if
anyone
can
hear
me,
because
my
internet
is
just
really
bad,
but
thank
you
I
am
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
speaker
is
kamar
porter
from
boston
glass.
You
now
have
the
floor.
M
Hello,
everyone,
as
julia
said,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
kumar
porter,
my
pronouns.
Are
he
him
and
his?
I
work
at
boston
glass,
which
is
a
lgbtq
plus
center
for
youth
ages,
18
to
the
prevention
network
coordinator,
there
actually
13
to
25.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
also
a
board
member
of
the
trans
resistance,
so
shout
out
to
athena,
vaughn,
chassis,
bowick
and
the
trans
emergency
fund
if
anyone's
viewing
and
would
like
to
donate
to
these
very
pivotal
places,
bostonglass.jri.org
and
transemergencyfun.org
are
places
to
visit.
M
I
wanted
to
first
talk
about
silence
and
silence,
always
being
violent
in
our
community
violence
in
our
community.
I
wanna
say
our
the
rest
in
heaven
to
all
the
trans
victims
that
have
died
from
any
type
of
violence
towards
us,
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
trans
people,
trans
gender
people,
especially
trans
folks
of
color,
with
with
us
violence,
can
show
up
in
many
different
ways
and
we
are
extremely
disproportionate
community.
Some
of
them
wait.
M
Those
ways
are
not
limited
to,
but
are
simple
as
doctors
visits
court
hearings,
please
policing
us
for
things
as
sex
work
and
other
things
you
know
trying
to
get
homes
and
apartments
and
experiencing
discrimination
in
public
areas.
Things
like
bathrooms.
M
M
I'd
like
to
say
that
these
are
some
of
my
own
experiences
as
well
as
some
of
the
folks
that
I
know
of
trans
experience
and
although
I
work
in
the
community
and
I've
helped
try
to
steer
the
wheel
a
little
bit
us
not
being
in
places
of
power
and
having
representation
has
been
like
a
damning
silence
in
our
community
and
towards
our
community.
So
I
I
encourage
you
all
to
talk
to
us.
M
While
we
are
here-
and
we
will
be
here
for
a
very
long
time-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
and
thank
julia,
especially
for
putting
on
this
panel
and
allowing
us
to
come
to
some
experience
of
what
or
in
insider
experience
of
what
is
going
on
in
our
communities
experiencing
homelessness
and
having
to
do
sex
work
out
of
desperation.
M
And
things
like
that
is-
are
very
pivotal
things
and
reasons
as
to
why
there
are.
We
are
in
vulnerable
places
and
experience
so
much
violence
within
our
community.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
just
listening
today
and
being
here
to
listen
and
hear
us,
and
I
I
really
appreciate.
M
A
Yeah
I'm
getting
used
to
this
situation.
Thank
you.
Kamar
really
do
appreciate
having
you
here
and
your
voice
and
all
the
work
that
you
do
on
behalf
of
our
most
vulnerable
young
people
and
creating
space
for
them
to
step
into
their
power
and
speak
their
truth
and
cause
that
really
good
trouble.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
it.
I'm
really
happy
that
you
were
able
to
join
us
today,
I'm
going
to
ask,
and
no
we,
we
talked
about
the
interest
of
time.
A
I'm
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
to
write
down
any
questions
that
they
have
for
kumar
and
then
once
we
get
done
with
our
presentations,
we're
going
to
go
back
to
questions
okay,
so
we're
switching
things
up
in
the
interest
of
making
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
be
heard.
I
am
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
speaker.
A
Our
next
speaker
is,
I
I've
been
getting
some
support
from
my
next
speaker
is
trey,
andre
valentin.
You
now
have
the
floor.
N
N
N
The
types
of
violence,
trans
and
gender
non-conforming
people
face
is
not
only
about
homicide
in
2015,
the
national
center
for
trans
equality's
u.s
trans
survey
reported
that
transgender
people
experience
three
times.
The
rate
of
unemployment
are
twice
as
likely
to
live
in
poverty.
One
in
five
experienced
homelessness.
N
N
These
are
forms
of
violence,
a
well-known,
a
well-known
constant
experience
in
our
culture
and
the
media
plays
a
huge
role
in
shaping
our
culture,
and
they
are
shaping
a
culture
of
violence
against
transgender
and
gender
non-conforming
people.
The
fbi
reported
a
34
increase
in
anti-trans
violence
between
2017
and
2018..
N
In
2019,
there
were
26
known
reports
of
trans
people
who
were
killed
in
the
united
states.
Ninety
percent
were
black.
Eighty
percent
were
under
the
age
of
eighty.
There
was
also
a
record
number
of
a
hundred
and
eight
138
anti-trans
bills
filed
the
highest
in
anti-trans
legislation
this
year.
So
far
at
least
27
transgender
people
have
been
killed.
The
majority
black
and
brown
trans
women
right
now,
transgender
women
of
color
have
a
life
expectancy
of
35.
N
every
year.
The
violence
against
transgender
people
supersedes
the
year
before
and
as
the
years
go
on,
each
year
is
marked
as
the
deadliest
year
ever
for
transgender
people.
It
is
simply
not
enough
to
have
laws
in
place.
People
organizations,
corporations
and
systems
can
follow
the
law
without
following
the
intent
of
the
law.
N
N
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I'm
so
glad
that
you're
a
part
of
this
conversation
and
look
forward
to
the
question
portion
from
my
colleagues,
because
we
all
have
a
lot
to
learn,
and
this
is
such
an
amazing
opportunity
for
us
to
take
our
lead
from
those
who
are
living
the
realities.
A
So
I
really
do
appreciate
you
being
in
this
space,
and
I
remember
hearing
you
speak
at
the
event
that
chastity
held
a
few
like
a
month
or
two
ago
where
I
had
to
talk
a
man
off
the
ledge.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
that,
but
yeah
I
was
there
and
it
was
great
to
be
in
your
presence.
I'm
gonna
go
next
to
tanya
nissula.
A
O
O
At
least
28
people
have
been
murdered
so
far
this
year
compared
to
26
transgender
people.
Last
year,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
in
just
seven
months,
we've
already
exceeded
the
number
of
transgender
folks
who
have
been
murdered
of
those
of
those
victims.
23
were
transgender
women,
four
were
transgender
men
and
one
was
non-binary.
O
The
epidemic
of
violence
is
particularly
pronounced
for
black
and
latina
trans
women.
We
also
need
to
be
cognizant
that
violence
encompasses
much
more
than
murder.
There
are
also
incidents
of
assault,
both
physical
and
sexual.
There
are
risks
that
are
amplified
through
higher
housing
and
job
insecurities
faced
by
our
transgender
siblings.
O
A
national
ser
national
transgender
discrimination
survey
reported
that
18
percent
of
massachusetts,
transgender
residents
reported
being
physically
assaulted
and
seven
percent
sexually
assaulted.
O
As
we,
we
also
have
problems
according
to
a
joint
study
by
the
national
center
for
transgender
equality
and
the
national,
gay
and
lesbian
trans
task
force.
20
1
of
transgender
women
have
been
incarcerated
at
some
point
in
their
lives
compared
to
a
5
incarceration
rate
among
the
general
population.
That
statistic
jumps
to
47
percent
for
black
trans
women.
O
O
We
need
to
we
need
to
humble
ourselves
and
remember
that
the
international
transgender
day
of
remembrance
has
been
observed
annually
on
november
20th
as
a
day
to
memorialize
those
who
have
been
murder
murdered
as
a
result
of
transphobia
and
that
it
was
founded
to
memorialize
the
murder
of
rita
hester
in
austin
massachusetts.
Boston
is
not
immune
from
this
epidemic.
A
Thank
you
tanya.
Thank
you.
So
much
really
appreciate
you
being
here
and
informing
the
dialogue,
and
you
know
my
hope
is
that
we
always
are
having
a
conversation
about
a
conversation
in
the
public
hearing
about
a
public
hearing.
A
Our
hope
really
is
is
to
get
at
the
core
and
really
help
people
think
and
leave
these
spaces
with
what
we
want
them
to
think
feel
and
do
as
a
result
of
being
here,
because
the
the
time
is
now
for
that
type
of
action-oriented
follow-up
that
is
needed
for
our
people.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
go
next
to,
I
believe
our
next
speaker
is
chastity
and
then
we're
gonna
go
to
evandro.
I
Good
afternoon,
everyone
sorry
just
trying
to
get
a
quick
bite
in.
Thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
chastity
boick.
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
transgender
emergency
fund
of
massachusetts
and
what
we
do
is
we
strive
to
give
our
clients
the
tools
and
resources
to
be
sustainable,
whether
that
is
by
homelessness
prevention,
rental,
startup
transportation
to
their
medical
appointments.
We
actually
also
pay
for
prescription
co-payments.
I
I
You
can't
tell
someone
to
go,
get
tested
for
hiv
and
to
get
on
prep.
If
you
don't
know
they
don't
know
where
they're
going
to
sleep
the
next
night,
I
know
my
own
self.
From
being
my
own
homelessness
experience,
I
was
too
worried
about
being
indulged
in
survival
sex
work,
so
I
could
make
sure
that
I
knew
I
had
a
meal
coming
or
I
knew
I
could
rip
me
a
hotel
room
to
stay
the
next
night
that
is
not
conducive
living
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
stop
that
cycle
of
oppression.
I
There
are
no
programs
in
the
state
or
in
new
england
that
are
actually
doing
the
services
that
we're
doing,
and
this
is
only
the
beginning.
In
october,
we
will
be
starting
our
care
and
support
program
where
members
of
our
community
can
get
mental
health
services,
and
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
insurance.
They
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
cost.
We
will
be
providing
these
services
for
them
and
then
also.
The
main
thing
is
our
transitional
housing
program.
I
We
are
seeking
to
obtain
a
building
in
the
city
of
boston,
to
where
we
can
start
our
transitional
housing
program
where
we
can
take
members
of
our
community
off
the
streets.
Since
we
are
oftentimes
shunned
in
shelters
and
substance
abuse
programs
and
give
them
the
tools
and
resources,
they
need
to
be
sustainable,
whether
that
is
helping
them
get
a
ged
going
to
trade
school.
I
Since
this
new
white
house
has
taken
office,
people
feel
they
have
the
right
to
abuse
us
beat
us
rape
us
and
tell
us
how
we
should
live
our
lives.
I
am
we
are
tired
and
we
are
done
letting
white
cisgender
men
dictate
to
us
how
our
livelihood
should
be
and
what
type
of
services
should
be
offered
to
us.
So
not
only
are
we
about
helping
our
our
clients
with
direct
services,
but
we
are
also
about
policy
change
and
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
of
changes.
I
The
three
trans
women
that
were
attacked
last
week
in
california
by
a
group
of
men
of
color,
just
like,
broke
my
heart,
but
once
again
my
heart
is
breaking
every
week,
because
every
week
is
another
story,
it's
another
girl
being
beaten.
It's
another
girl
being
raped,
it's
another
girl
being
put
in
the
men's
prison.
I
We're
going
to
put
our
foot
on
the
ground
and
we're
going
to
fight
and
work
for
what
we
know
we
deserve
we're
not
asking
for
special
privileges.
We
just
want
to
live
equally
like
everyone
else,
and
I
just
find
that
so
hard
for
people
to
understand
and
grasp
like
that,
we're
human,
just
like
any
other
cisgender,
male
or
female
they're,
good
ones,
they're
bad
ones.
I
We're
continuously
being
discriminated
against,
is
so
many
ways
that
they
get
around
it.
Of
course
we
have
the
new
public
accommodations
law
here
in
massachusetts,
but
it's
not
enough.
It's
not
enough.
We
need
protections
on
a
federal
level,
so
I
just
hope
that
the
people
listening
today,
my
colleagues
and
that
do
this
work
know
that
we
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do,
but
we
need
our
city
officials,
we
need
our
mayor.
We
need
our
governor
to
be
on
our
side.
Talk
is
cheap.
I
I
want
to
see
action,
and
until
I
do
that
we're
going
to
continue
fighting
this
fight,
because
we
have
a
lot
more
services
that
we
need
and
we're
not
going
to
stop
until
we
get
that,
and
so
the
transgender
emergency
fund
is
all
about
reform.
It's
all
about
social
justice,
and
we
are
social
justice
warriors
and
we're
here
to
do
the
work.
A
H
Constantly
here,
thank
you
for
the
invite,
particularly
the
invitation
for
the
lost
human
rights
commission
to
be
here.
For
those
that
do
not
know
me.
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission,
this
commission,
over
the
it's
it's
based
on
law
that
prohibits
discrimination
against
people
within
the
city
of
boston,
particularly
for
this
important
topic.
Obviously,
gender
identity
is
a
protected
class,
so
I've
heard
many
many
many
of
you
mission
is
right.
H
Discrimination
happening
in
so
many
different
ways
to
the
transgender
community
in
the
city
of
boston
and
in
the
state.
This
commission
is
unfortunately,
but
yet,
fortunately
exciting
in
a
sense
that
is
new.
H
The
commissioners
finally
met
for
the
first
three
or
four
times
during
covet
we're
trying
to
get
off
the
ground
right
now
we're
putting
together
benchmarks
in
terms
of
what
the
mission
will
look
like
in
terms
of
what
the
priorities
will
look
like
at
least
for
the
near
future,
going
into
fy
2021
as
we
just
began,
the
I
can
tell
you
that
issues,
discrimination
against
transgender
and
lgbtq
people
in
general
have
come
up
during
our
meetings
as
one
of
potential
priorities
that
we'll
focus
on,
I
believe.
H
Actually,
commissioner,
ann
russo
brought.
This
bro
talked
substantially
on
this
topic,
but
I
came
here.
I'm
excited
that
that
actually,
that
I
was
invited,
because
I
was
able
to
listen
to
so
many
of
the
advocates
and
people's
personal
stories
dealing
with
this
with
this
pandemic.
Violence
against
transgenders
people
and
I've
heard
like
many
of
you-
that
women
of
color
in
particular
are
disproportionately
impacted
to
some
extent.
Unfortunately,
that's
not
new
right,
it's
not
it's!
H
Not
it's
not
isolated
to
just
to
just
the
transgender
people
in
a
sense
that,
as
we
know
as
we
see
through
covet
as
we
see
through
wealth
gap,
people
color
in
black
and
brown
people,
particularly
taking
the
short
end
of
the
stick.
So
I
I
would
like
to
to
say
that
this
commission,
hopefully
will
be
another
tool
in
the
in
the
toolbox
for
this
community
to
reach
out
to.
H
I
certainly
want
to
have
a
deeper
conversation
with
many
of
the
folks
that
spoke,
including
richard
over
in
bpd,
as
well
as
as
chas
chastity.
Unfortunately,
I
had
to
go
behind
and
did
a
tremendous
job
expression
expressing
the
issues
and
the
passion
I
saw
it,
and
I
felt
it
I
feel
for
you.
I
also
want
to
talk
to
trey
all
of
you,
trey
tania,
everyone
that
contributed
from
the
different
parts
of
this
issue.
I
love
to
to
engage
further.
H
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
we're
learning
as
a
commission
we're
listening
with
we're
hoping
to
to
to
be
impactful
in
people's
lives
that
need
the
most,
and
I
see
this
community
as
as
at
least
personally
as
as
a
major
potential
issue
that
will
focus
on,
but
just
to
kind
of
wrap
it
up.
As
as
many
of
you
know
again,
the
commissioner
is
known:
we
are
trying
to
get
off
the
ground,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
susan
susan
helmy
is
the
executive
assistant
of
the
commission.
We
are.
H
We
have
a
budget
of
over
500
thousand
dollars
invested
from
the
operational
budget
that
I'm
sure
all
of
you
are
familiar
with
for
the
city,
so
we're
looking
to
hire
staff
to
help
us
do
the
work,
so
you
know,
engage
us.
This
is
the
time
all
you
city,
counselors,
that
I
see
here
at
flynn.
You
know
obviously
counselor
braden,
who
I
believe
is
one
of
the
key
sponsors
here.
I
see
constantly
bach
campbell
earlier
nissa,
all
folks
that
I'm
familiar
with
anything
we.
H
This
is
the
time
to
sort
of
say:
listen,
let's,
let's,
let's
see
what
we
can
do
in
this
particular
issue,
so
again,
thank
you,
councilman
for
inviting
me
and
I've
learned
so
much
more
so
much
more
than
I
thought
it
would
so.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
We
really
do
appreciate
your
presence
and
it
speaks
volumes
to
your
commitment
to
this
conversation,
and
I
think
you
know
this
is
where
we
get
inspired
about
what
are
some
of
the
policies
we
should
be
pursuing.
A
A
We're
gonna
do
no
more
than
five
minutes
and
I'm
gonna
ask
my
colleagues
we're
gonna
go
through
one
round
of
questions
just
because,
if
we're
gonna
get
through
this
by
three
o'clock,
we
need
to
just
make
sure
that
we
stay
on.
So
we'll
just
have
one
round
of
questions
and
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
ask
your
questions
and
I'm
gonna
go
first
to
the
sponsor
of
this
hearing
order
to
my
colleague
and
co-sponsor
counselor
breed
and
you
not
have
the
floor.
F
F
Who's
been
texting
me
and
saying
about
the
experience
and
she
she's,
echoing
many
of
the
things
that
her
daughter
is
experiencing
in
the
in
the
community,
been
difficulties
even
just
accessing
public
accommodations.
When
you
go
to
the
movies
or
been
poorly
treated
at
the
hospital
appointment
and
been
laughed
at
and
abu
dead,
name
down,
etc,
there's
so
many
they
don't
seem
like
big
things
in
in
in
they
could
seem
trivial
to
those
of
us
who
don't
experience
it,
but
it's
a
very
deep
wound
to
people.
F
If
you
have
to
experience
that
day
after
day,
one
experience
that
she
shared
was
when,
when
her
daughter
came
out
as
trans,
she
was
very
concerned
about
the
safety.
The
first
thing
that
came
to
my
mind
as
a
parent
of
a
trans
child
was
my
child
is
going
to
be
violently
assaulted.
My
child
is
going
to
be
in
danger,
so
I
really
applaud
you
for
your
activism
and
for
raising
up
these
very,
very
important
issues.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
breeden.
I
am
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
in
the
order
of
arrival,
which
I
have
to
look
and
get
my
latest
list.
I
am
going
to
ask
counselor
flynn
if
you're
still
with
us.
A
I
see
that
you
probably
you're
not
on
screen,
so
you
probably
multitasking
because
we
all
like
sometimes
are
juggling
101
things
so
come
to
flynn.
If
you're
here,
if
not
I'll,
go
to
the
next
person
and
then
you
can
come
back
to
us.
The
next
person
on
my
list
is
counselor.
Asabi
george
and
I
know
your
camera
ready
go.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
again,
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
your
presentations
this
this
afternoon.
This
morning
this
afternoon
I
was
in
and
out
so
I'm
I
apologize
if,
if
this
was
covered
in
some
of
your
presentations,
if
it
was
just
say
so
and
I'll
go
back
and
review
review
the
the
video,
I
am
curious
about
the
the
work
that
might
be
happening
or
might
not
be
happening
within
our
school
communities,
in
particular
the
boston
public
schools.
K
I'm
a
former
high
school
teacher-
and
you
know,
especially
during
adolescence
this
making
sure
that
our
students
have
both
the
information
and
the
support
services
in
place
for
themselves
and
also
around
educating
peers.
K
I
think
it's,
I
think,
that's
a
really
important
piece
of
the
work
that
you
or
may
may
or
may
not
do,
and
I'm
curious
about
the
involvement
in
the
school
district
and
the
boston
public
schools
in
particular.
If
anyone
could
speak
to
that.
M
So
I
was
going
to
just
say
that
let
me
put
this
hand
down.
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
boston
glass
definitely
works
with
boston,
public
schools
committee.
M
As
far
as
lgbtq
folks
and
representation.
Again,
I
said
that
we
see
folks
ages,
13
25
up
to
29
actually
for
some
of
the
services
at
boston
glass.
So
we
are
very,
very
much
connected
with
boston,
public
schools
and
before
covid
happened,
we
were
going
to
the
schools
and
providing
support
for
or
like
kind
of
like
as
liaisons
and
getting
getting
support
from.
Anyone
who
had
lgbtq,
plus
advisory
boards
and
things.
M
So
we
would
then
come
in
and
support
them
and
support
getting
bathrooms
utilization
for
trans
folks
and
things
like
that
on
board
in
schools
and
committees
on
board.
With
that
so
boston,
public
schools
have
been
working
very
closely
with
us
and
doing
a
great
job
as
far
as
as
far
as
you
know,
representation.
K
Great,
I
appreciate
that,
and
you
know,
as
chair
of
education
and
someone
who
spends
a
lot
of
time
sort
of
in
the
education
space
any
any
of
you
that
need
support
in
in
doing
this
work,
especially
with
our
schools.
I
you
know
count
me
as
a
as
a
an
advocate
and
a
supporter
for
that
effort.
I
know
that
homelessness
has
come
up,
as
is
one
of
the
the
challenges
and
issues
that
many
within
our
communities
deal
with
and
suffer
from.
K
Is
there
anyone
that
could
speak
in
maybe
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
needs
of
individuals
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
and
it
also
is
often
tied
to
substance,
use
disorders
and
mental
health
issues?
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
could
sort
of
reflect
on
that
in
a
slightly
deeper
way,
as
as
it
pertains
to
this
community,
that's
at
risk.
I
Yes,
I
definitely
can
speak
more
on
that
issue.
I
For
a
transgender
person
when
they
are
experiencing
homelessness,
it
can
start
off
by
being
kicked
out
from
your
family's
home
for
being
trans
and
then
once
you're
on
the
street
trying
to
navigate
your
way.
You
may
end
up
having
to
involve
in
survival
sex
work
and
to
get
you
through
that
survival,
sex
work
and
you
turn
into
survival,
drug
use
and
there's
all
different
types
of
kinds
of
drugs,
and
I
would
just
give
myself
an
example
after
becoming
homeless,
after
leaving
an
abusive
relationship.
I
I
As
someone
who
was
still
new
and
finding
herself,
I
was
very
shocked
and
I
ended
up
on
the
street
that
night
and
ended
up
indulging
in
survival
sex
work
for
the
next
three
months,
and
then
I
got
addicted
to
ecstasy
pills
to
help
me
get
through
that
sex
work,
and
when
I
realized
that
I
wanted,
I
was
tired.
I
didn't
want
to
do
this
anymore.
I
needed
help.
I
wanted
help.
There
was
no
help
for
me
when
I
tried
to
get
into
substance
abuse
treatment
programs.
I
They
were
trying
to
make
me
go
to
a
men's
program
because
they
were
more
considered.
What's
between
my
legs
versus,
what's
going
on
in
my
head,
so
we
that's
the
cycle
of
oppression
that
we
go
through
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
ways
to
break
that
cycle
of
oppression,
and
that's
why
our
transitional
housing
program
is
so
vitally
important
for
us
to
get
this
going.
Why
we
need
a
building.
I
People
are
opening
the
doors
up
us
on
us
and
showers
point
in
to
find
out
what's
in
between
our
legs.
It's
like
we
are
a
freak
show.
So
it's
like,
I
said,
that's
why
I
say
the
homelessness
piece
is
so
very
critical,
because
that
can
stop
the
effect
of
a
lot
of
other
things
that
happens.
The
drug
use
the
mental
health
issues,
because,
when
that,
when
you're
doing
those
types
of
actions
that
is
gonna
weigh
on
your
mental
psyche,
like
I
would
never
I
can.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
counselor
sophie
george
for
your
questions
and
again
to
the
panelists
who
have
responded.
I'm
going
to
go
next
to
counselor
campbell.
You
not
have
the
floor.
J
Thank
you,
council,
mejia,
and
thank
you
so
much
to
the
panelists
and
I
had
goosebumps
through
much
of
the
testimony,
because
I
know
that
all
of
you
are
doing
much
of
this
work
in
your
professional
capacities,
but
you
also
have
your
stories
that
connect
your
personal
that
connects
to
the
work
and
have
probably
suffered
your
own
trauma
with
respect
to
the
very
issues
you're
talking
about,
so
just
appreciate
the
level
of
vulnerability
and
then,
of
course,
the
call
to
action
I
am
with
you.
J
J
Project
we've
been
looking
at
city-owned
buildings
that
have
been
vacant
or
parcels
of
land
that
could
be
built
on
that
have
been
sitting
there
for
years
and
they're,
typically
largely
in
my
district,
but
in
in
communities
of
color,
and
so
we
have
been
tackling
a
working
in
partnership
with
wentworth,
so
many
institutions
to
try
to
activate
these
spaces
for
community
purpose.
J
So
if
you
could
follow
up
with
us
on
what
you
were
specifically
talking
about,
that
would
be
great
would
love
to
continue
that
conversation
as
we
connect
with
folks
in
the
city
and
certain
departments.
I
would
have
put
my
email
in
the
chat,
but
there's
no
chat
feature
here,
so
it's
just
andrea.campbell
at
boston.gov,
I
checked
my
own
email,
so
do
follow
up
we'd
love
to
to
pull
you
in
there
and
give
you
updates
on
what
we're
doing
there
and
then
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
J
J
Of
course
we
want
it
to
be
a
space,
an
institution
and
a
mechanism
that
everyone
feels
safe
and
comfortable
to
use,
and
I
know
counselor
edwards
joined.
I
mentioned
her
earlier
as
we've
been
tackling
this
issue
and
it
was
great
to
have
the
mayor
bring
it
back,
but
I'm
curious
of
andrew.
What
is
the
timeline
currently
in
terms
of
being
able
to
actually
receive
complaints
from
the
community
to
respond
with
appropriate
sanctions
and
various
things?
J
There's
such
a
there's
so
many
tools
there
within
this
tool,
kit
at
the
commission,
so
I'm
just
curious
what
the
timeline
is
there
and
then.
My
second
question
is:
is
for
trey
andre,
which
is
first
of
all.
Thank
you
because
I
think
you
really
hit
upon
what
we
often
talk
about.
It's
not
just
about
laws
in
policies
and
practices.
It's
culture,
it's
in!
What's
in
our
hearts,
it's
what
is
in
our
minds
and
our
spirit.
So
all
of
us
have
work
to
do
with
respect
to
prejudices.
J
We
all
carry
something,
but
I'm
curious
to
hear
from
you
specifically
what
the
city
could
be
doing
more
of
to
shift
our
culture
in
our
various
departments
in
the
council
other
places
to
be
able
to
to
respond
more
appropriately
when
it
comes
to
to
this
work,
but
all
the
work
that
we
do.
Those
are
my
two
questions.
Counselor
here.
A
I'm
just
saying
the
interest
of
time:
I'm
gonna
have
avondro
answer
and
then
we'll
go
to
trayvon.
H
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor,
I'm
happy
that
the
the
interest
of
time
connect
with
you
off
offline
and
discuss
further.
I
can
tell
you
this
much
that
we
are
essentially
at
this
point
drafting
the
intake
form.
We
are
narrowing
it
actually
creating
and
drafting
actual
mission
statement
and
narrowing
the
priorities
so
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
potentially
actually
doing
taking
in
cases-
and
you
know
helping
people
out
the
next
several
months,
I'm
thinking
as
we
go
into
the
fall,
we're
likely
gonna
get
in
the
position
to
do
that
right
now.
H
H
It
says
juncture
getting
the
the
basics
on
so
that
when
someone
say
chastity
calls
or
emails
with
a
comp
with
potential
person
that
wants
to
make
a
complaint,
we
say
here's
the
intake
or
go
to
our
website
and
fill
out
the
form
so
we're
getting
the
basic
infrastructure
in
place
to
get
to
get
ready
to
do
those
things.
Thank
you.
A
N
Thank
you
for
your
question.
What
can
the
city
do?
I
think
there's
so
there's
such
a
range
of
things
that
people
can
do
it
can
be
really
really
small
to
something
like
really
really
big,
right
and
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
start
to
think
about
and
talk
about
actually
instilling
some
lgbtq
curriculum
in
schools
right
to
to
begin
with,
because
kamar
made
the
point
that
it
sort
of
like
starts
off
with
silence
right.
N
That's
that's
one
of
the
things
it's
starting
off
with
silence
and
erasure,
and
so
when
we
have
a
curriculum
in
schools,
I
think
that
that
can
help
to
change
the
culture
working
with
with,
I
think,
the
media
and
the
way
we
also
talk
about
trans
people
and
people
who
are
gender
non-conforming
right
to
really
challenge
those
views.
N
The
views
that
chastity
brought
up
to
really
work
against
that
narrative
and
also
to
do
things
that
are
that
go
towards
investing
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
see
is
actually
a
lack
of
investment,
a
lack
of
investment
of
us
as
people
and
our
potential
to
self-actualize
and
and
enterprise
really
fully
participate
in
our
society.
Right
and-
and
so
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
a
investment
in
in
our
education
and
making
sure
that
that
is
inclusive,
making
sure
that
that
those
places
are
as
safe.
N
No
place
is
safe
right,
let's
just
be
real
right,
but
as
as
safe
as
possible,
right
and
and
that
and
that,
even
within
our
health
care,
centers
right
that
that
the
people
not
only
the
doctors,
but
everyone
who
is
involved,
that
they
know
how
to
treat
trans
people
and
how
to
refer
to
trans
people
and
not
you
not
misgender,
not
that
name
and-
and
I
think
it
it's
also
as
big
as
as
as
policy
change
right
and
things
like
when
we're
when
we're
thinking
about,
even
even
during
the
pandemic
right
now,
the
any
of
the
research
that's
being
done.
N
Trans
people
aren't
being
involved
in
that
right,
even
with
the
research
that's
being
done,
trends
right
and
with
the
vaccines
trans
people
aren't
being
involved,
so
even
policies
that
about
that
are
that
big?
I
think
it's
a
range
of
things
that
we
can
do.
J
A
Lot
of
ideas
that
are
coming
here,
this
is
why
we
host
public
hearings.
You
know
oftentimes
people
think
it's
just
about
accountability,
but
this
is
where
the
real
information
lies.
It's
the
people
who
are
living
the
realities
and
doing
the
work
that
inform
our
thinking,
because
these
nuggets
and
the
things
that
we're
learning
here
are
going
to
set
the
tone
for
the
type
of
things
that
we
pursue
in
the
future,
so
for
people
to
recognize
the
importance
of
these
public
hearings
from
that
space.
A
Much
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
counselor
campbell.
I
am
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
one.
Thank
you.
So
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
counselor
bach.
E
Questions
you
have
any
questions.
Thank
you.
So
much
counselor,
michael
councillor
campbell,
took
my
main
question
about
sort
of
actionable
follow-up,
so
I
guess
I'll
just
quickly
ask
ivandra
whether
it's
anything
I
know
the
human
rights
commission
were
sort
of
operating
off
of
an
old
like
statue
and
authority,
and
I'm
just
curious
whether
whether
any
of
our
like
language
about
protected
classes
for
the
commission
makes
any
reference
to
trans
folks
or
whether
there's
any
like
work.
H
Yes,
in
fact,
I
believe
the
actual
language
is
gender.
Gender
identity
is
protected
right
in
a
sense
that
no
matter
the
choice
you
make
right.
So
it
will.
It
should
be
covered
under
the
language,
but
to
go
back
briefly
on
something
that
trey,
for
instance,
said
is.
Is
you
know
the
human
rights
commission
beyond
taking
complaints?
H
You
know,
can
also
do
education
right?
I
do
think
that
a
transgender
community-
this
is
a
space
that
is
right
for
for
the
narrative
to
be
changed
right
for
people
to
understand
what
the,
what
the.
In
fact
when
I
came
into
city
hall-
and
I
saw
people
putting
their
he
or
she
their
pronouns,
and
you
know
it
didn't
automatically
register
to
what
that
meant
right.
I
think
there's
this
this
commission
was
created
in
the
80s.
H
I
believe
a
lot
of
it
was
because
back
then
was
the
gay
and
lesbian
community,
as
it
was
known
back
then
didn't
have
a
place
to
go
right
because
there
were
there
didn't
exist,
federal
protection
back
then
too.
So
I
think
the
the
transgender
community,
it's
sort
of
to
some
extent,
evolved
from
that
community
and
it's
new
right.
A
lot
of
the
language
that
we're
using
that
I'm
hearing
here
for
today,
as
someone
who's,
you
know
to
some
extent,
could
say
well
educated.
I
still
I'm
adjusting
to
to
understand.
H
You
know
the
different
lingo
that
exists.
So
I
think
a
lot
of
it
is
education
is
a
key
component
that
the
human
rights
commission
can
also
help
with.
D
E
Thanks
so
much
and
yeah,
I
think,
madam
chair
between
that
and
the
questions
about
bps.
I
think
my
colleagues
have
covered
the
area.
I
just
really
want
to
thank
everybody
for
sharing
your
witness
today
and
and
definitely
agree
with
you,
madam
chair,
that
this
has
to
be
a
a
first
step
of
a
continuing
conversation
about
how
the
council
and
the
city
can
can
support.
A
P
Hi,
so
one
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
vulnerability,
for
your
honesty
and
for
your
frankness
and
helping
us
to
understand
how
we
as
a
city,
can
do
better
and
so
I've
taken
down
some
notes,
specifically
about
city
council.
I
am
curious.
F
I
think
we've
lost,
you
got
you.
P
Sorry
about
that
one
question
is:
are
there
any
ideal
city,
ordinances
or
laws
that
you
look
to
in
the
country
that
we
should
be
emulating
or
enhancing?
I
know
that
our
human
rights
laws,
our
human
rights
commission,
is
actually
pretty
one
of
the
most
robust
in
the
in
the
state,
but
I'm
let's
look
beyond
our
own
state
and
see
if
there's
other
examples
of
cities
doing
things
better
in
terms
of
the
legal
structure
and
then
I
I
could
say
over
here
in
east
boston.
P
You
know
we
just
started
to
have,
I
think,
for
the
last
five
years
we
started
to
raise
our
own
pride
flag
and
there's
a
community
growing
community
of
gay,
lesbian
and
trans
folks
in
the
community
and
I'm
asking
for
what
we
can
do
together
or
what
we
can.
What
what
we
can
call
on
you
to
do
within
our
communities
to
have
these
intimate
real
conversations
about
lived
experiences
of
our
neighbors,
and
I
think
that's
just
as
important
as
laws,
because
you
could
we
have
the
you
know
we
passed.
P
You
know
question
three:
we
did
all
those
things
we
we
made
sure
that
legally
in
certain
senses,
we
have
that,
but
still
there's
a
huge
amount
of
lift
pain,
huge
amount
of
discrimination,
huge
amount
of
despair
and
that
people
experience
and
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that,
on
the
day
to
day
that
law
hasn't
trickled
down
or
changed
a
lot
of
minds,
it
just
prevented
them
from
causing
some
kinds
of
injury,
injury
and
only
when
they're
notified,
and
only
when
you
can
go
to
court
normally
when
you
can
have
access
to
that
defense.
P
But
I
believe
in
the
the
day-to-day
difficult
conversations
we
have
series
of
them
for
kids,
with
police
officers
on
race
and
equity,
and
I
would
love
to
to
start
some
of
these
conversations
in
east
boston
we're
a
little
isolated
anyway.
We
don't
really
necessarily
go
so
I'd
love
to
to
have
those
conversations.
P
I'll
tell
you
one
conversation.
My
my
church
decided
to
have
was
to
collect
petitions
in
the
foyer
to
to
put
question
three
on
the
ballot
to
begin
with,
and
that
was
what
my
house
of
worship
and
me
and
the
priest
got
into
it.
I
don't
have
to
put
all
my
business
out
there,
but
but
that's
what
I
couldn't
imagine
anybody
whose
child
is
trans?
Who
is
trans
what
that
means,
regardless
of
how
the
question
passed,
they
just
learned
that
this
house
of
worship-
and
these
folks
here
don't
see
me
as
a
human
being.
P
So
I'm
curious
about
any
legal
laws
that
you
find
to
be
ideal,
that
we
should
be
emulating
or
if
we're
you
know,
and
then
how
do
we
have
those
conversations
with
you
or
on
our
own
to
really
make
the
laws
and
the
spirit
of
those
laws
real.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
edwards,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
just
in
the
interest
of
time.
If
some
of
our
panelists
can
speak
to
that,
and
maybe
one
or
two
just
in
the
interest
of
time
and
then
the
rest,
we
could
definitely
follow
up
so
tanya.
I
see
you
shaking
your
head.
I
don't
want
to
call
you
out
chastity.
I
know
you
were
talking
about
policy
earlier,
so
I'm
just
curious,
treyandre
or
kamar.
I
I'll
jump
right
on
in
so
I
feel
as
though
we
need
our
policy
makers
to
listen
to
us
what
we
say
we
need,
instead
of
just
coming
up
with
these
wild
things
that
they
come
up
with
and
say:
no,
that's
all
they
need,
and
they
don't
need
these
protections
and
this
they
don't
need
this.
I
No
there's
a
reason
why
we
say
we
need
what
we
need
and
I
think
that
number
one
not
only
bringing
us
to
the
table
when
making
these
decisions,
but
also,
I
think
that
we
just
need
more
people
in
office
that
really
care
about
humanity
in
general,
because
that's
the
problem
that
I
see
with
congress
they've
been
here
too
long.
That's
the
problem,
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
hold
us
as
a
community.
I
We
need
to
hold
our
policy
policymakers,
like
yourselves,
accountable
for
putting
these
laws
in
place
that
we
say
we
need
just
like
you
know.
Why
is
it
now
2020
we're
talking
about
banning
a
police
show
code?
It's
like
things
that
have
should
been
done.
Let's
get
it
done
and
I
don't
know
what
it
takes
because
I'm
not-
and
you
know
I'm
not
into
politics
like
that,
but
I
would
say
that
let
us
know
what
we
need
to
do.
I
What
we
need
to
do
to
help
you,
get
these
policies
in
place
and
get
these
laws
intact,
because
I'm
more
than
willing
to
do
my
part,
I
know
the
people
I
work
with
will
be
willing
to
do
their
part,
but
I
think
we
need
to
know
what
do
you
need
from
us
to
make
these
laws
happen?
What
do
you
need
from
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
discriminated
against
in
housing
or
seeking
services
in
substance,
abuse,
treatment,
programs
and
shelters?
What
do
we
need
to
do?
A
O
All
right,
so
I
just
just
to
be
clear:
I'm
not
trying
to
be
a
shy
violet,
but
I
do
want
to
you
know
I
am
a
member
of
the
lgbt
community,
but
I
am
not
a
member
of
the
trans
community,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
trans
voices
are
heard.
First
in
this,
I
I
think
from
a
policy
perspective.
I
I
think
the
very
first
thing
we
need
to
do
is
look
at
data.
O
We
fought
really
hard
to
try
trey
andre
mentioned
during
the
covet
epidemic
to
get
that
healthcare
data.
There's
a
lot
of
data.
That's
missing
officer
day
hill
mentioned
that
they
don't
have
statistics
on
what
the
percentage
of
community
members
in
the
boston
police
department
are
there
and
without
actually
having
data,
it's
really
difficult
to
formulate
policy.
O
I
would
like
to
say
that
there
is
an
ideal
model
somewhere
out
there
in
the
world.
I
think
if
there
were
one
more
communities
would
be
copying
it
and
we
wouldn't
have
this
international
epidemic.
It's
not
just
it's
not
just
the
united
states.
The
uk
has
seen
a
spike
in
transgender
violence
this
year
as
well.
This
is,
this
is
something
that
is.
This
is
something
that's
crucial.
There
is
data
out
there.
There's
data
on
homelessness,
there's
data
on
housing,
there's
it
on
employment
discrimination.
O
We
know
that
the
layer,
the
layers
that
go
into
any
kind
of
violence-
and
I
will
also
say
with
regard
to
intimate
partner
violence,
just
because
something
happens
between
two
people
that
know
each
other.
It
does
not
mean
that
it's
not
a
hate
crime,
and
I
think
that
that's
important
to
know-
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
O
We
have
a
sound
policy
for
hate
crime
reporting
and
for
gender
identity
and
reporting,
and
so
that
we
can
catalog
the
data
so
that
we
know
what
the
scope
of
the
impact
really
is
across
all
these
communities
and
how
we
can
effectively
combat
them,
because
each
community,
its
own
microcosm
and
what
works
in
seattle
might
not
work
in
boston,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that
as
well.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
going
to
it
is
now
12
I
mean.
Excuse
me
254
and
I
know
counselor
flynn
you
left
and
you
came
back
so
I'm
gonna
be
nice
and
see.
If
you
have
one
question
that
you
want
to
put
out
into
the
space
because
then
I
would
like
to
I
do
have
one
I
I
do.
I
haven't
asked
my
questions
either
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
respectful
of
the
time-
and
I
also
before
I
move
on-
I
wanted
to
ask
counselor
edwards.
A
G
Thank
you.
I
I
just
had
a
quick
follow-up
to
avandro,
who
I
think
is
doing
an
excellent
job
at
the
human
rights
commission.
It
was.
It
was
established
in
1984
under
under
mayor
flynn,
but
then
it
was.
G
It
was
almost
deactivated
in
the
mid
mid
90s
for
about
15
years,
but
then
mayor
walsh
brought
it
back,
which
I
think
was
one
of
the
best
best
decisions
in
in
city
government,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
evandro:
do
you
have
any
plans
to
you
know
talk
to
residents
of
boston
about
the
human
rights
commission,
whether
you
plan
to
promote
the
human
rights
commission?
H
Thank
you.
Am
I
muted
now,
okay
counselor!
Thank
you
for
that
question
and
thank
you
for
your
support
for
the
human
rights
commission.
I
definitely
want
a
good
give
kudos
to
your
father
mayor
flynn
for
his
leadership
on
this,
even
in
the
80s
right.
I
think,
as
as
one
of
the
council
has
mentioned
earlier,
the
fact
that
the
commission
is
so
robust
and
so
general
it
speaks
volumes
to
to
our
city.
H
We
are
as
a
commission,
in
fact,
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
last
in
the
last
meeting
was
this
potentially
not
only
having
meetings
as
we
have
public
meetings,
but
to
find
ways
to
communicate
with
people
throughout
the
city,
particularly
under
covet.
I
can
tell
you
that
one
of
the
people-
hopefully
that
will
be
hiring
it
will
be.
H
Maybe
the
title
may
change,
but
an
outreach
court
education,
outreach
coordinator,
that's
going
to
be
devising
exactly
that
plan
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
get
our
message
out
there?
How
do
we,
you
know,
build
a
website,
as
you
know,
before
covet
often
these
community
meetings
throughout
the
throughout
the
city
that
happen
that
all
of
you
are
no
attend
all
the
time,
so
they
will
come
to
these
meetings
and
speak
and
have
flyers
in
terms
of
what
we're
doing.
So.
H
That's
certainly
in
the
plan
to
hire
someone
to
focus
on
that
council.
G
Thank
you
evandro,
and
I
appreciate
that
and
just
as
a
point
of
reference,
one
of
the
reasons
I
I
voted
for
the
mayor's
budget.
Among
many
reasons,
is
the
mayor
significantly
put
funding
into
the
human
rights
commission
for
to
make
sure
it
is
active
throughout
the
neighborhood.
So
thank
you
to
mayor
walsh
and
evandro
as
well.
A
F
So,
thank
you
so
much,
I'm
really!
I'm
really
apologize.
I
have
to
dash
off.
I
have
a.
I
have
a
three
o'clock
non-movable
event.
Thank
you
so
much.
This
has
been
an
incredibly
important
and
useful
conversation.
I
feel
that
it's
the
first
step
in
a
journey
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
counseling
mejia
and
all
of
all
of
you
to
try
and
advance
this
work
and
address
the
the
severe
and
difficult
situation
for
our
trans
brothers
and
sisters
in
in
boston
and
further
afield.
So,
thank
you
so
much.
F
I
look
forward
to
continuing
the
work
and
thanks
for
your
time
this
afternoon.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
One
of
the
things
that
the
commission
can
do
and
should
be
doing
is
one,
as
you
know,
told
in
the
in
the
in
the
bill,
is
to
study
discrimination
and
make
recommendations
to
the
city
council
to
the
mayor
about
how
to
update
it.
So
this
could
be
you
know
again,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
keep
talking
to
some
of
the
advocates
here
beyond
today.
H
As
some
maybe
changing
the
laws
we
can't,
we
can't
look
at
what
other
states
are
doing,
what
other
cities
are
doing
and
say:
okay,
there's
a
gap
here
in
the
city
of
boston
and
make
recommendations
to
you
all
to
update
it.
So
again,
it's
an
ordinance
that
obviously
has
to
go
through
both
the
city
council
and
the
mayor,
working
with
the
commission.
A
Okay,
great
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
explore
this
and
and
unpack
it
further
and
figure
out
the
how
we
move
the
work
three
times
and
what
was
appropriate
for
1980
is
very
different
from
2020,
and
there
is
some.
E
But
I
imagine
I
imagine
that
what
she's
saying
is
that
obviously
that-
and
it
really
is
dovetailing
with
the
question
I
had
asked
right-
that
the
mechanisms
we
might
need
legally
in
this
time,
given
how
far
we've
come.
Despite
how
much
we
have
ground
we
still
have
to
cover.
You
know
we
might
need
different
categories
than
were
put
into
the
legislation
in
84.
E
E
A
Oh
well
see
I,
I
love
the
fact
that
you
understand
exactly
what
I
that's
exactly
where
I
was
going
and
this
team
presents
itself
as
an
opportunity
for
us
to
move
beyond
the
dialogue
and
let's
look
at
what
we
need
in
this
moment
in
time
and
there's
a
lot
of
energy
for
that.
So
with
that
said,
just
in
the
interest
of
ending
on
time
would
just
like
to
thank
all
of
our
panelists
for
being
here.
The
administration
and
my
colleagues
for
not
just
showing
up
but
for
being
fully
present.
A
I'm
the
deputy
day
hill
is
so
great
to
meet
you
even
if
it's
via
zoom,
but
but
that's
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
all
need
to
continue
to
be
in
dialogue
and
community
with
each
other.
So,
more
importantly,
is
the
what
we
do
after
the
conversation
that
moves
the
work
forward.
So
thank
you
again
for
being
here,
see
ya,
see
our
office
as
partners.
A
Our
colleagues
that
participated
are
deeply
committed
to
this
conversation
and
thank
you
again
to
the
administration
for
being
all
in
and
more
importantly,
to
our
city
council,
central
staff,
who
make
magic
happen
every
single
day
for
us
on
behalf
of
the
counselors.
So
thank
you
all
have
a
beautiful
weekend
so
great
to
to
be
here
with
you
all,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
I
gotta
go
y'all.
Do
too
so
peace
see
you
later.
Thank
you,
oh
and
this
meeting
is
addressed.