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Docket #0199- Policy Briefing: Early Education & Childcare- On-site childcare in the workplace
A
Families
and
communities
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
broadcasted
live
on
Comcast,
8
and
RCN
82.
Please
do
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
electronic
devices.
I
want
to
thank
the
initiator
of
this
policy
briefing
series
and
the
sponsor
for
today's
briefing
council,
president
Wu
for
her
partnership
and
again
for
her
vision
for
this
series
of
briefings
related
to
the
issue
of
early
education
and
care.
A
Today
we
have
covered
a
wide
range
of
topics
within
eec,
access
for
families
that
are
experiencing
homelessness,
professional
development
for
community-based
providers,
funding
mechanisms,
trending
mechanisms
as
well
as
transitions
from
eec
into
bps
kindergarten
and,
more
recently,
access
for
families
with
non-standard
work
hours.
And
now
today
we
are
discussing
on-site
childcare,
we'll
be
joined
by
our
expert
Erin
Kelly,
who
was
a
professor
of
work
and
organization
studies
at
MIT,
Sloan,
School
of
Management,
but
first
I'd
like
to
quickly
recognize
my
colleagues.
A
B
C
Wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
our
series
and
making
sure
that
we're
returning
to
this
from
all
different
angles,
but
regularly
over
an
extended
period
of
time,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
professor
Kelly
for
your
time
tonight
today,
and
also
for
all
of
the
research
and
work
that
you've
done
over
many
years
on
this
topic.
Thank.
D
Professor,
you
have
the
floor
great.
Well,
it's
great
to
be
here
and
I.
Look
forward
to
our
conversation
as
a
bit
of
background.
I
am
a
sociologist
of
work
in
organizations
and
I've
been
studying
how
employers
address
work
family
concerns
for
over
20
years.
Now
it's
hard
to
admit
that,
but
in
recently.
D
In
recent
years,
my
work
has
focused
more
on
flexibility
and
employees
control
over
work
time,
but
some
of
my
earlier
work
did
look
at
employer
sponsored
childcare,
and
so
it
was
a
delight
to
have
this
invitation
as
background.
My
perspective
is
that
early
childhood
education
is
vital
to
our
communities
and
the
development
of
our
workforces.
Support
of
healthy
families
and
children
I
also
support
a
shared
investment
strategy
that
views
this
as
a
public
good,
as
are
supporting
our
children's
development
and
supporting
workers
who
have
parenting
needs
is
certainly
important
for
all
of
us
to
invest.
D
In
that
said,
my
research
suggests
that
employers
sponsor
child
care
in
the
form
of
center
based
care
that
happens
at
the
workplace
may
not
be
that
viable
of
a
strategy
for
reaching
for
addressing
today's
childcare
needs
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
that
leads
me
to
that
conclusion.
D
So
in
1997,
my
dissertation
research
involved.
So
that's
20
years
ago
my
dissertation
research
involved
nationally
representative
survey
of
employers
and
depending
on
how
what
I
did
with
his
statistics,
between
five
and
thirteen
percent
of
workplaces
had
an
on-site
childcare
center.
The
most
recent
data
that
comes
from
a
larger
study,
the
National
Survey
of
employers
in
2014,
finds
seven
percent
of
employers
have
an
on-site
or
near
site
childcare
center.
So
in
twenty
years,
we've
seen
no
increase
and
perhaps
a
decrease
in
the
percentage
of
workplaces
that
are
setting
up
and
in
offering
on-site
childcare.
D
The
other
key
predictors
include
the
size
of
the
establishment.
Obviously,
larger
workplaces
are
more
likely
to
have
on-site
childcare,
centers
the
size
of
the
organization.
As
a
whole
and
sector,
the
public
sector
and
nonprofits,
including
both
nonprofit
Social
Services
and
hospitals,
are
significantly
more
likely
than
private
sector
employers.
D
Currently,
it
also
matters
the
percentage
of
the
workforce
who
are
women,
but
the
occupational
status
of
the
workers
and
the
size
are
the
key
predictors,
and
so
one
implication
of
that
is
that
the
people
who
are
already
quote
winners
in
the
larger
labor
market
are
more
likely
to
have
access
to
this
appealing
form
of
child
care.
On-Site
childcare
is
appealing
to
workers
because
of
its
convenience
in
many
cases,
and
largely
because
of
the
high
quality
of
care
that
tends
to
be
provided
in
on-site
childcare
centers.
D
However,
many
workers
are
not
interested
in
on-site
childcare
either
because
they
don't
want
to
commute
with
their
children,
because
the
cost
of
that
high-quality
center
based
care
is
still
not
affordable
for
them
in
their
family
or
among
some
hourly
workers.
It
may
not
be
feasible
to
commit
to
a
certain
number
of
hours
of
childcare
if
your
own
schedule
is
unpredictable.
D
If
some
weeks
you
have
24
hours
and
other
weeks,
you're
only
scheduled
or
paid
for
twelve
hours
of
work,
then
having
committed
even
to
a
part
time
slot
in
an
on-site,
childcare
center
just
doesn't
work
and
in
those
cases
it
may
be
more
sensible
for
workers
who
are
facing
unpredictable
schedules
to
rely
on
in-home
care,
often
family
and
friends.
So
I
think
I'll
pause
there
and
see.
If
you
have
questions
and
see
what
else
I
can
share.
C
Well,
thank
you
so
much
I
think
the
your
research
kind
of
backs
up
anecdotally
what
we
tend
to
see
and
hear
from
families,
which
is
that
it's
wonderful
when
it
does
happen,
but
not
quite
sure
why
and
and
how
and
how
to
expand
it
beyond
the
limited
pool
of
usually
higher
income
or
more
professional
jobs.
Do
you
have
any
sense
of-
and
we
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
before,
but
are
there
other
ways
to
tie
healthcare?
C
Access
points
for
lower-income
families
or
parents,
and
our
the
is
the
reason
why
it's
not
more
prevalent
for
lower-income
jobs,
some
other
barrier,
for
example.
You
know
we
hear
a
lot
about
insurance
and
companies
not
wanting
to
bear
the
costs
of
liability
insurance
for
an
on-site,
childcare
and
they're.
So
therefore,
some
other
barriers
that
make
it
a
more
expensive
proposition
and
therefore
only
the
certain
types
of
companies
will
choose
to
go
through
those
hoops
mm-hmm.
D
Would
be
eager
to
have
an
update
myself
on
what
employers
say
currently,
but
my
sense
from
my
previous
interviews
and
and
from
reading
recent
reports
is
that
there
are
some
concerns
about
cost
the
concerns
about
liability
and
the
administrative
questions.
How
do
we
do?
This
are
often
handled
by
contracting
with
a
child
care
organization
so
that
the
employer
is
providing
the
space
and
subsidizing
the
on-site
childcare,
but
is
not
trying
to
actually
run
it
within
as
as
a
part
of
their
business
right?
D
D
However,
that's
been
in
place
since
2002,
and
we've
seen
no
increase
in
this
period
in
in
the
number
of
employers
who
have
responded
by
adding
child
centers
that
maybe
partly
because
governments
and
nonprofits
are
not
covered
by
that
childcare
tax
credit
and
those
are
some
of
the
organizations
that
my
research
suggests
are
more
likely
to
pursue
this.
It's
also
the
case
that
many
private
sector
employers,
don't
have
any
federal
tax
liability,
so
the
credit
is
not
a
financial
benefit
to
them.
D
There
are
over
20
states
with
state-based
tax
incentives,
and
yet
the
available
data
suggests
that
that
hasn't
prompted
a
big
increase
either.
In
those
cases
it
looks
like
maybe
often
five
employers
are
utilizing
the
tax
credit
in
a
given
stage.
Those
data
come
from
an
older
report,
but
I
haven't
seen
any
updates
that
that
suggest
that
there's
and
it
has
been
an
increase.
D
So
your
first
question
was
about
other
possibilities:
I'm
not
an
early
childhood
specialist
and
so
I,
unfortunately,
don't
know
as
much
as
interested
in
as
a
citizen
on
that
topic.
But
there
are
some
states
that
have
provided
a
tax
credit
to
employers
who
subsidize
attacks
a
childcare
investment
fund
right
so
that
they
can
make
a
donation
to
in
this.
In
these
cases,
a
state
fund
that
increases
access
or
subsidizes
the
care
of
low-income
families
that
reaches
beyond
their
own
workforce.
D
C
How
do
we
ensure
we're
reaching
the
right
type
and
hours
of
care,
but
also
paying
the
child
care
workers
a
living
wage
and,
ideally
more
many
of
the
state
reforms
or
even
the
federal
reforms
that
I've
heard
talked
about
involve
some
combination
of
using
tax
payer
using
tax
dollars
to
subsidize
grants
to
the
workers
there
for
helping
Community
Center
community-based
centers
pay
their
workers
a
higher
wage,
theoretically
increasing
quality
and
attractiveness
to
families
who
may
be
looking
elsewhere
for
more.
You
know
more
center-based
care
rather
than
community-based.
D
D
Well,
my
research
hasn't
compared
the
employer
sponsored
childcare
with
the
other
childcare
investment
strategies,
but
I
will
say
that,
given
the
limitations
that
I
see
in
the
employers
month,
their
childcare
path,
I
think
that
the
other
paths
are
worth
exploring,
at
least
in
tandem.
I
would
be
concerned
if
we
hoped
to
encourage
an
increase
in
child
and
employer
sponsored
childcare,
and
we
allowed
that
to
crowd
out
some
other
strategies
just
because
the
last
20
years
suggest
that
employers
haven't
jumped
on
the
bandwagon.
D
B
So
the
you
know
the
more
folks
telecommuting
and
working
a
more
flexible
work
schedule,
even
in
those
higher
management
level
positions
where
there
was
some
more
flexibility
and
how
we
work,
I
think
all
effects
you
know
all
it
impacts
all
of
this.
It's
interesting
to
me
and
it's
it's
also
fascinating
to
me
that
businesses
aren't
taking
advantage
of
any
incentives,
whether
the
state
or
the
federal
does.
D
B
D
D
A
D
C
D
Sure
I
think
that
the
focus
on
improving
access
to
high
quality
childcare
is
very
important
and
so
I
wish.
You
well
and
I'm
excited
to
see
what
you
pursue
with
that.
With
regard
to
that,
I
agree
with
you
that
the
focus
on
teachers,
wages
and
how
we
can
support
a
living
wage
among
early
education
teachers
is
important
because
that's
related
to
the
quality
of
care
that
our
young
people
get
and
to
the
shortages
and
and
the
opportunities
that
parents
have.
D
The
other
thing
I
would
mention
is
that
addressing
the
concerns,
the
work
family
concerns
of
low-wage
workers
includes
addressing
child
care,
but
also
paid
sick
and
family
leaves
and
considering
how
we
can
support
reasonable
schedules
so
being
sure
that
workers
have
some
advance
notice
to
their
schedules
or
how
there
is
some
sense
of
predictability
so
that
they
and
their
families
can
plan
their
lives.
Take
care
of
the
work
that
they
need
to
do,
but
not
be
faced
with
the
chaos
of
always
changing
schedules.
A
D
A
D
A
A
We
have
found
for
this
workforce
that
is
incredibly
daunting
for
them
already
in
low-wage
jobs
and
again
balancing
their
own
families
that
a
number
of
the
hoops
that
we're
asking
them
to
jump
through
those
who
have
had
family
and
center-based
sillies
for
quite
some
time
now
wanting
to
develop
their
skills
that
it
can
be
costly
and
inconvenient,
and
so
access
to
those
professional
development
opportunities
might
be
something
we
need
to
look
at
as
well.
But
I
was
just
curious
as
to
how
you
are
defining
high
quality
mm-hmm.
D
Quality
I
think
it
it
is
harder
to
define,
and
that
is
again
outside
of
my
area
a
little
bit
because
I'm,
not
an
early
childhood
scholar,
I'm
a
organization
side,
employer,
side,
scholar,
my
hunch,
as
a
parent
and
I
am
interested
in
your
perspective-
is
that
things
like
having
consistency
of
care
and
consistency
of
routines
is
is
very
important
within
in-home,
and
you
know
child
Bay
childcare,
centers
that
aren't
accredited
by
the
national
associations
and
those
are
affected
by
the
childcare
workers.
Wages.
Certainly
right.