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Docket #1062 - Hearing to consider the benefits of net-zero carbon requirements and incentives for future construction in the City of Boston.
A
B
Is
a
hearing
of
the
City
Council's
Committee
on
Environment
and
sustainability,
and
we're
here
to
discuss
a
docket
that
I
offer
docket
number
zero
one
six
two
in
order
to
consider
the
benefits
of
Net
Zero
Carbon
requirements
and
incentives
for
future
construction
in
the
city
of
Boston.
I
want
to
thank
the
advocates
on
this
issue,
particularly
the
Boston
Clean
Energy
Coalition.
The
well
call
attention
to
the
issue
of
harmful
environmental
impacts
of
residential
and
commercial
buildings.
B
Today
is
the
first
time
we
have
introduced
the
idea
of
Net
Zero
Carbon
to
the
Boston
City
Council,
but
it
is
certainly
will
not
be
the
last
Boston
can
reach
Net
Zero
Carbon
by
committing
to
construction
buildings
in
which
all
carbon
emissions
are
offset
by
renewable
energy
production.
The
mayor
Walsh
has
very
admirably
agreed
to
carbon
neutrality
by
2050
and
Boston's
goal
has
been
set.
This
is
part
of
the
green
print
of
getting
there.
B
We
often
talk
about
blueprints
I
want
to
have
green
print
in
our
lexicon
of
what
we're
going
to
do
on
June,
15th
I
was
with
many
people
in
this
chamber
as
we
facilitated
the
Jamaica
Plain
forums
evening
titled.
How
do
we
get
to
Net
Zero?
It
was
an
incredibly
illuminating
conversation
and
really
helped
prepare
me
to
see
what
the
possibility
could
be
subsequently
on
Wednesday
August,
2nd
I
filed
this
hearing
order
to
discuss
Boston's
role
in
achieving
Net
Zero
Carbon.
B
A
couple
of
items
before
we
get
into
our
panels
wanted
to,
of
course,
acknowledge
and
I'll
introduce
her
for
some
opening
remarks.
The
council
president,
my
dear
colleague
and
friend
on
this
and
so
many
great
environmental
issues,
city
councilor,
at-large,
Michele
Wu
I,
also
wanted
to
acknowledge
a
councillor
elect
the
district
7
city
councilor
like
Kim
Janey,
who
was
with
us
she's
sitting
there
for
now
and
about
three
more
weeks
she'll
be
down
here.
B
We
don't
do
applause
typically,
but
for
our
councillor
elect
who's,
really
been
a
leader
on
this
and
so
many
issues.
We
are
delighted
to
have
you
councillor.
Thank
you
and
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
on
this
very
very
briefly.
Buildings
contribute
to
over
half
of
Boston's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
our
city.
Miss
Boston
is
quickly
becoming
susceptible
to
the
impact
of
climate
change,
with
rising
sea
levels
and
extremely
weather.
We
must
lead
and
coming
up
with
innovative
and
sustainable
solutions.
B
Now
more
than
ever,
there
is
an
utter
paucity
of
leadership
in
Washington
DC
and
it's
up
to
cities
and
towns
to
fight
in
combat
climate
change.
We've
seen
some
cities
leading
in
this
space
across
the
river
in
Cambridge
Massachusetts,
as
well
as
Austin
Texas,
Fort,
Collins,
Colorado
and
Palo
Alto
California
have
already
implemented
successful,
Net
Zero
strategic
plans.
Now,
as
we
move
forward
in
the
construction
of
new
buildings,
we
should
not
only
consider
its
affordability
but
also
the
carbon
footprint
of
these
buildings
for
every
environmental
issue
that
we
work
on.
B
I
always
reiterate:
that's
these
solutions
are
not
only
good
for
the
environment,
but
almost
always
good
for
the
taxpayer
and
the
ratepayer
as
well.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
working
with
council
president
Wu
and
passing
Community
Choice
Energy
has
proven
that
out
most
recently
passed
a
plastic
bag
ordinance,
which
is
will
also
bear
that
out
as
well.
We've
seen
we
have
a
lot
to
get
through.
So
let's
do
jazz
hands
for
applause.
B
Please
we've
seen
it
here
in
Boston,
with
the
Castle
Square
Apartments
in
the
south
end
is
really
a
model
for
the
future
of
energy.
Efficient
residential
buildings
in
2011.
The
energy
retrofits
undergone
by
over
190
of
the
units
of
Castle
square
complex,
ended
up
reducing
energy
usage
by
72%,
and
the
complex
now
saves
213
thousand
dollars
annually.
That's
nearly
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
annually
in
energy
savings
after
the
energy-efficient
upgrade
we're
gonna
hear
from
some
experts
a
little
bit
later
after
the
mayoral
panel,
as
well
as
we
invite
everyone
here
to
testify.
B
Who
can
talk
to
that
point
as
well
as
it
relates
to
buildings?
We
have
an
opportunity
here
and
I
know
where
our
first
panel
is
from
the
mayoral
administration
to
dear
friends,
to
many
of
us
Commissioner
Carl
Specter
Commissioner
of
the
Environment
Department
in
jondells
l,
the
senior
architect
of
sustainable
development
at
the
BP
ta
at
the
BP
da.
These
two
gentlemen
who
I
know
are
committed
to
this
causes
well
are
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
great
work
and
the
strategy.
That's
happening
right
now.
We
applaud
that,
and
we
are
grateful
for
that.
B
B
There
are
sign-in
sheets,
I
have
at
least
three
sheets
already,
there's
more
to
the
left.
We
will
stay
here
as
long
as
it
takes
so
that
everyone
can
testify,
and
the
panels
will
be
the
mayoral
administration
first,
followed
by
the
experts
and
then
advocates
before
we
get
to
public
testimony.
So,
having
said
that,
before
we
get
to
you,
gentlemen,
council
president
Wu
any
thoughts
or
Kassie
well,.
C
Thank
you,
mr.
chairman,
for
your
leadership
on
this
and
so
many
other
issues
that
we're
we're
really
thrilled.
That
Boston
is
now
taking
action
on
in
partnership
with
folks
in
this
room
and
all
the
organizations
that
you
represent.
I
wanted
to
apologize
because
I'm
gonna
be
popping
in
and
out
I
had
one
thing
quickly
scheduled
at
2:30,
so
I'll
be
back
right
after
that.
So
I
wanted
to
say
on
the
record
before
that
that
I
completely
agree
with
whatever
actions.
C
We
can
take
urgently
on
this
that
it's
important
to
talk
about
resiliency
and
adaptation,
but
we
cannot
depend
on
just
waiting
for
every
new
disaster
or
the
impacts
of
climate
change
to
come
and
figure
out
how
we're
gonna
pay
for
dealing
with
them.
We
have
to
actively
take
actions
to
reduce
mitigate
and
prevent
the
worst
of
what
could
happen
today.
C
C
We
are
in
now
as
a
planet,
because
our
current
economic
system
locks
in
these
incentives
for
people
not
to
take
the
most
sustainable
actions,
so
we
have
to
actively
change
the
economic
system
and
I
believe
it's
only
through
putting
some
teeth
behind
regulations
that
we
start
to
shape
the
parameters
by
which
development
happens
and
by
which
business
occurs
in
the
city
and
and
then
we
get
to
the
double
triple
bottom
line,
but
we
do
need
to
take
actions
and
sort
of
codify
these
rules
into
the
law.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
D
Couldn't
agree
with
Michelle
I
did
hear
a
match.
Opening
statement
couldn't
agree
with
both
of
the
more
I
think
the
important
pieces.
When
you
see
Kass
here
it's
really
about
where
he's
gonna
be
in
20
years,
which
is
you
know,
it's
scary,
my
guys
are
20
and
18,
so
they're
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
curve,
but
Kass
and
blaze
are
just
three
and
just
a
little
baby.
D
B
You
councillor
McCarthy
appreciate
that.
Finally,
there
is
a
brief
letter
from
concert
district,
a
councillor
Josh
sake,
I'm,
saying
chairman
O'malley,
due
to
a
prior
commitment,
I'm
unable
to
attend
today's
hearing
regarding
the
benefits
of
NetZero
carbon
requirements
and
incentives.
I
sincerely
regret
that
I'm
unable
to
join
you.
Thank
you
for
taking
such
an
important
topic.
I
share
your
concerns
regarding
the
reliance
of
fossil
fuels
and
the
infrastructure
of
newly
constructed
buildings
and
I
support.
B
Any
efforts
in
this
legislative
body
to
move
the
city
of
Boston
closer
to
carbon
neutrality,
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
video
of
the
hearing
and
any
written
testimony
submitted
today.
We've
been
joined
by
two
more
councillors,
I
believe
I
have
the
order
right.
The
district
tree
city
councilor,
our
friend
Frank,
Baker,
I'm,
sorry
we'll
get
to
councillor
Baker
in
a
minute.
At-Large
counts
are
our
friend
city,
councilor,
Anissa,
asabi
George
welcome
councillor
sabi
George
hate
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
any
opening
thought
Thank
You,
councillor
Baker.
B
Thank
you
both
for
being
and
then
finally,
I
saw
my
dear
friend,
Henrietta
Davis,
the
former
mayor
of
Cambridge
and
former
city
councillors
join
us
as
well
Thank
You,
mayor
Davis,
for
joining
us
gentlemen.
Welcome
and
thank
you
so
much.
Whoever
wants
to
start
just
introduce
yourself
your
position.
I
know
we
have
a
brief
slide
presentation
as
well,
so.
E
Okay,
so
thank
you,
Thank
You,
councillor,
I'm,
Carl
Specter,
commissioner,
in
the
environment
for
the
city
of
Boston.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
to
testify
concerning
docket
1062
regarding
zero
net
carbon
goals
for
new
buildings
in
Boston,
the
City
of
Boston
created
its
first
climate
action
plan
in
2007,
which
we
have
updated
twice
since
then.
Reducing
the
carbon
and
energy
intensity
of
buildings
has
been
an
essential
part
of
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy
from
the
start.
E
Although
we
have
been
focused
on
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
target
of
25
percent
by
2020
with
the
last
state
of
our
climate
action
plan,
which
Mayor
Walsh
released
three
years
ago,
we
began
to
examine
measures
necessary
to
reach
our
long-term
goal.
For
2050
that
was
80%
an
80%
reduction
at
the
time
that
the
plan
was
released,
but
the
mayor,
as
you
noted,
councilor
O'malley,
has
since
raised
our
sights
to
carbon
neutrality.
E
Several
weeks
ago,
mayor
Walsh
announced
the
launch
of
carbon
free
Boston,
a
joint
initiative
of
the
city
with
the
green
ribbon
Commission
and
Boston,
University
and
I
know.
One
of
the
directors
of
the
work
at
Boston
University
is
going
to
be
speaking
at
a
later
panel.
The
initial
phase
of
carbon
free
Boston
is
analyzing,
the
ban
and
costs
of
policies
and
programs,
both
individually
and
collectively,
that
will
enable
Boston
to
reach
its
carbon
neutrality
goal
since
buildings
account
for
about
3/4
of
Boston's
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
E
Various
approaches,
many
approaches
to
reducing
building
emissions
will
be
an
important
part
of
the
ongoing
analysis.
We
expect
this
analysis
to
be
completed
by
next
summer,
at
which
point
it
will
become
one
of
the
bases
for
the
next.
The
third
update
of
our
climate
action
plan-
we
are
also
learning
from
the
experience
of
other
cities,
both
near
and
far.
For
example,
Boston
is
a
member
of
c40,
an
international
network
of
cities
working
on
climate
change
and
Mayor
Walsh
is
a
member
of
the
steering
committee
in
parallel
with
the
carbon
free
Boston
work.
E
Boston
is
one
of
25
cities
around
the
world,
participating
in
sea
forties,
commitment
to
developing
climate
action
plans
compliant
with
the
2016
Paris
Accords.
Among
other
things,
this
means
carbon
neutrality
and
we
are
making
sure
that
the
carbon
free,
Boston
work
is
is
coordinated
closely
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
under
sea
40.
The
city
is
engaged
in
many
other
greenhouse
gas
reduction
activities,
not
least
our
commitment
to
lead
by
example
in
reducing
energy
use
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
its
own
operations,
which
I'm
also
happy
to
describe.
E
F
Thank
You
councillor
O'malley
I'm,
John
Doe,
with
the
Boston
Planning
and
Development
Agency,
the
BP
da
in
its
capacity
is
this
city's
Planning
and
Economic
Development
Agency
works
in
partnership
with
our
sister
agencies,
especially
Carl,
and
the
Office
of
Energy
Environment
and
open
space
to
reduce
Boston's
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Our
approach
to
sustainability
is
holistic
and
includes
human
health,
social
well-being,
site
transportation,
infrastructure
and
Neighborhood
Development.
For
today,
we'll
focus
our
comments
on
the
zoning
article,
37
green
building
regulations,
the
20-17
Boston
climate
change,
checklist
update
and
the
E
Plus
green
building
program.
F
All
three
initiatives
are
direct
have
direct
bearing
on
Boston's
carbon
footprint
and
meeting
Mayor
Walsh's
goal
for
carbon
neutrality
in
2050.
Let
me
start
with
the
zoning
article
37
green
buildings
regulation,
which
was
enacted
in
January
2017
on
the
recommendations
of
the
mayor's
green
building
task
force.
These
regulations
made
Boston
the
first
large
city
in
the
u.s.
to
require
private
developers
to
build
green
and
evidence
their
sustainability
practices
of
their
projects
using
the
US
Green
Building
Council's
Leadership
in
Energy
and
Environmental
Design,
also
known
as
LEED
building
rating
systems.
F
The
regulations
are
applicable
to
projects
over
50,000
square
feet
and
require
LEED
certifiable
or
better.
Compliance
is
determined
by
the
Boston
interagency
Green
Building
Committee.
Today,
Boston
is
home
to
over
320
LEED
buildings
and
projects
amounting
to
over
77
million
square
feet
of
green
buildings.
Massachusetts
has
ranked
5th
in
the
nation
for
the
most
green
buildings
and
in
2016
added
the
most
new
LEED
square
feet
of
buildings
nationally.
Both
of
these
are
on
a
per
capita
basis.
F
It's
important
to
note
that
these
totals
include
existing
buildings,
interior
fit-outs
and
numerous
other
projects
that
are
outside
of
our
zoning
regulation.
This
is
by
intent.
Our
goal
is
to
transform
practice
across
the
building
sector
and
to
significantly
broaden
the
beneficial
impacts
of
our
regulations.
The
market
recognition
elements
of
the
LEED
building
rating
systems
enable
us
to
do
that
today.
Our
practices
are
emulated
by
major
cities
around
the
country
and
from
coast
to
coast.
F
The
next
area
of
practice
is
our
climate,
resiliency
checklist,
which
was
just
updated
at
our
October
board
meeting
and
now
requires
projects
to
assess
and
mitigate
impacts,
including
those
due
to
climate
change.
The
resiliency
checklist
incorporates
the
find
and
recommendations
at
the
Boston
research
advisory
group
and
the
climate
ready
Boston
report
that
Carl
has
mentioned.
The
update
also
reflects
the
mayor's
carbon
neutrality
gold
and
includes
specific
performance
targets
for
carbon
emissions,
extreme
precipitation,
extreme
heat
and
sea-level
rise.
F
The
resiliency
checklist
is
a
requirement
of
the
article
80
large
project
review
guidelines
and
is
applicable
to
all
new
projects
over
fifty
thousand
square
feet.
Projects
are
reviewed
by
the
Boston
interagency
Green
Building
Committee
projects
are
required
to
target
and
at
zero
carbon
emissions
and
to
assess
the
design
performance
of
the
proposed
project.
F
Projects
are
required
to
include
measures
to
eliminate,
reduce
or
mitigate
the
adverse
impacts
of
their
carbon
emissions.
Projects
are
also
required
to
identify
future
adaptation
strategies
is
needed
to
meet
or
exceed
the
Net
Zero
Carbon
performance
goals.
So
it's
really
a
two
phase.
Look.
What
can
you
do
now
and
what
will
you
need
to
do
and
can
do
in
the
future?
F
F
There
you
go
one
more
perfect.
The
last
program
that
we
want
to
mention
is
the
E
Plus
green
building
program.
That's
a
plus
as
an
energy
positive.
It
was
launched
by
the
BP
da
in
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
in
2011,
with
the
purpose
of
demonstrating
the
feasibility
for
net
positive
energy,
deep
green
homes
in
Boston.
F
The
first
phase
offered
three
parcels
for
housing
redevelopment
in
a
design:
competition
request
for
proposal
format,
the
RFP
challenge
leading
architects
and
builders
and
developers
to
work
together
to
construct
new
homes
that
use
very
little
energy
about
the
third
of
allowed,
a
third
of
the
energy
that's
allowed
by
code
and
to
exceed
that
load
with
on-site
solar,
renewable
energy
that
the
homes
be
deep,
green,
exceeding
the
LEED
for
homes,
Magnum
requirements.
The
last
of
these
first
phase
projects
was
just
completed.
F
In
fact,
there
are
three
units
for
sale
right
now,
including
one
affordable
housing
unit
in
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood
of
Roxbury.
We
have
three
years
of
data
from
the
first
four
units.
Can
you
advance
the
slides?
Oh
one,
one
more
and
that's
the
first
completed
building
in
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood
and
one
more
please.
F
We
have
three
years
of
data
on
the
performance
of
these
homes
and
what
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
of
the
chart
is
that
they're
exceeding
our
goals
and
surplus
enough
renewable
energy
to
power
an
OK
or
code-compliant
three-bedroom
homes.
So
these
homes
have
proved
out
to
be
net
positive
by
a
good
measure.
The
plus
green
building
program
has
been
expanded
with
the
offering
of
to
larger
city
parcels
which
had
yield
about
80
additional
units.
F
The
design
competition
for
the
EEP
Loess
Highland
Marcella
Street
site,
is
now
open,
so
there
are
teams
starting
to
work
on
the
next
phase
of
this
initiative.
Additionally,
the
e
plus
program
has
been
replicated
by
private
housing
developers
who
have
proposed
and
built
projects
in
Jamaica,
Plain
and
Roxbury,
and
by
the
art
and
by
artists
for
Humanity,
which
has
proposed
an
e
plus
expansion
to
their
existing
building
in
South.
F
Boston,
that
is
under
construction
now,
actually
might
be
the
largest
commercial
energy
positive
building
on
the
East
Coast,
and
when
it's
completed
at
the
small
residential
scale,
we
are
seeing
Net,
Zero
and
net
positive
carbon
buildings
are
feasible
and,
with
normalization
of
these
practices
highly
feasible
in
a
short
time,
we
expect
to
see
the
same
at
small
commercial
scale
buildings
in
time.
One
can
imagine
neighborhoods
of
Net
Zero
and
net
positive
carbon
buildings
dramatically
reducing
our
citywide
carbon
emissions.
F
Our
successes
in
these
endeavors
is
dependent
upon
our
many
partners,
many
who
are
here
who
supported
these
efforts
and
the
extraordinary
leaders
and
practitioners
who
are
building
the
next
generation
of
buildings.
Now,
thank
you
again
for
your
leadership
and
for
the
opportunity
to
share
our
practices
here.
I'm
also
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Well,.
B
Thank
you
both
appreciate
it
and
I
just
have
several
questions.
First,
what
the
preface
is
the
reason
why
I
was
so
excited
to
do
this
hearing
is
I.
Think
it's
safe
to
say
that
virtually
everyone
in
this
room
and
I
know
mayor
Walsh
included,
wants
the
same
goals
here.
We
all,
we
all
recognize
the
urgency
and
we
all
recognize
the
fact
that,
as
cities,
there
are
certain
tools
we
can
do
to
address
this
issue
and
I
was
delighted
and
I
was
I'm
familiar
with
most,
but
not
all
John,
some
of
the
the
programs.
B
You
know,
in
addition
to
climate
ready
and
renew
Boston
and
be
positive,
and
all
these
there's
a
number
of
programs
I
would
argue
that
the
build
PBS
and
certain
other
programs
should
be
include
in
this
conversation
as
well.
There
are
a
lot
of
them.
Is
there?
Is
it
one
of
you?
Is
it
someone
else
who's
sort
of
overseeing
all
the
different
working
groups
and
sort
of
processes
they've
been
put
in
place
to
address
this
well.
E
We've
been,
we've
been
working
very
closely
with
their
colleagues
and
the
public
facilities
department
and,
with
you
know,
the
bps
on
on
their
building
plans,
and
you
know
both
in
terms
of
we're
talking
with
them
about
their
new
buildings.
And,
of
course,
how
are
we
addressing
the
existing
building?
So
the
city
has
put
a
lot
of
programs
in
place.
We've
instituted
a
very
large
energy
service,
contracting
services
contract.
Excuse
me
to
address
the
energy
efficiency
of
existing
buildings.
E
So
you
know
the
the
Environment
Department
works
closely
with
the
departments
that
have
direct
oversight
of
the
efficiency
and
energy
use
in
our
building.
So
there
is
a
lot
going
on
and
but
it's
mostly
coordinated
through
those
agencies
with
the
Environment,
Department
and
I,
don't
know
whether
John,
whether
you
participate
to
serving
as
a
facilitator
and
advisor
of
bringing
resources,
it's
a
collaborative
effort
and
also,
of
course,
with
the
budget.
There's.
B
No
question
on
that:
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
is
that
today
we're
speaking
more
specifically
on
buildings
and
sort
of
development
which
a
lot
of
these
address
others
talk
about
he'll
talk
about
so
transportation,
some
other
things.
Do
we
have
sort
of
a
single
point
person
that
oversees
that
almost
like?
You
know,
director
of
everything,
or
is
there
a
strategic
plan
where
the
heads
of
all
these
meet
and
are
convened
monthly,
to
sort
of
discuss
on
how
our
goals
can
be
in
sync
with
one
another.
G
E
Something
for
us
to
think
about,
certainly
for
for
looking
at
the
energy
efficiency
of
existing
buildings
yeah.
We
do
have
a
such
a
committee
for
that,
through,
what's
called
through
of
the
there,
there
is
a
Standing
Committee
that
with
the
Environment
Department
with
budget
with
the
public
facilities
department
that
meets
regularly
to
coordinate
work
on
perfect.
G
E
B
Again,
that's
that's
very
gratifying
to
hear
and
I'm
not
looking
to
make
more
work
for
people.
Perhaps
I
am
but
looking
at
you
know.
I
was
very
proud
to
played
a
role
working
with
you
and
others
in
the
prior
administration
passing
beardo,
which
is
something
that
I
think
was
long
overdue.
Working
with
the
folks
who
are
discussing
the
existing
buildings.
What
we
can
do,
what
incentives
and
also
the
new
development
down
the
pipeline,
recognizing
you
know
larger
scale
would
be
more
likely
to
come
under,
be
PDA
oversight
and
so
on.
B
So
as
we
talk
about
sort
of
a
strategic
plan-
and
perhaps
that's
what
I
would
like
the
purpose
of
this
hearing
and
subsequent
hearings
next
year
to
really
help
facilitate,
let's
see
if
we
can-
and
it
should
be-
you
or
you
know
either
of
you
or
someone
that
can
help
make
sure
that
all
of
these
groups
that
are
working
towards
the
same
goal
or
on
the
same
page
I
think
there
could
be
enormous
help
in
that.
Secondly,
and
I'm
not
looking
to
sort
of
relitigate,
it
is
involved
in
this
hearing.
B
But
obviously,
as
we
talk
about
you
know,
new
gas
infrastructure,
I've
been
opposed
to
the
West
Roxbury
lateral
pipeline.
The
Back
Bay
pipeline
I
know
some
folks
in
this
room
have
done
some
yeoman's
work
on
that
and
I
am
very
grateful
for
that.
But
my
concern
is:
we
are
building
so
much
infrastructure
for
natural
gas
that
it
is
going
to
make
it
very,
very
difficult
to
reach
carbon
neutral
by
2050.
So
can
either
of
you
sort
of
speak
on
that
again.
I
don't
want
to
sort
of
relitigate
this
we're
talking.
E
Know,
as
you
know,
as
John
mentioned
in
his
remarks,
the
new
climate
checklist
requires
buildings
to
consider
about
how
the
new
buildings
yeah,
how
they're
going
to
contribute
to
reaching
carbon
neutrality
so
that,
even
if
they're,
not
carbon
neutral
today,
what?
What?
How
are
they
thinking
ahead
so
that
we're
not
locked
in
the
way
you
describe
yeah.
F
There's
two
things
that
I
want
to
jump
back
to
your
first
question:
counselor,
it's
worth
noting
that
the
city
operates
with
a
lead
by
example,
standard
for
city
buildings,
as
well
as
projects
that
the
city
has
financing
or
land,
and
so
those
projects
are
required
to
achieve
LEED
Silver
and
in
the
case
of
city
buildings.
They
have
to
be
LEED,
silver
or
better
certified.
F
F
Does,
and
so
let
me
move
on
to
the
second
point,
which
is
Lee.
It
is
holistic,
so
it
includes
things
like
site
and
location
and
other
benefits
which
also
have
significant
carbon
footprints
to
them.
A
better
point
is
to
look
at
re+
green
buildings,
because
at
this
level
of
practice
we
are
building
all-electric
buildings.
They
do
not
have
combustion
within
the
building's.
They
do
not
have
gas
service
that
sits
in
the
street.
There's
no
cost
for
gas
connections.
F
We
see
that
as
the
practice
of
the
future,
we
will
be
less
and
less
reliant
on
gas
for
things
like
heating
and
and
another
sources,
combustion
for
cooking
and
so
forth,
and
and
we
believe
that
practice
is
really
feasible
at
this
point,
you
don't
need
to
bring
gas
and
into
homes
to
have
quality
homes
that
are
efficient
and
safe.
You.
B
Could
not
agree
with
you
more
and
that
that
is
music
to
my
ears.
I
guess
my
concern
and
is
that
with
the
green
light-
and
a
lot
of
this
is
federal,
this
isn't
this?
Isn't
you
guys
want
to
be
clear
about
that,
but
with
the
development
of
more
and
more
natural
gas
infrastructure,
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
failure-
and
this
isn't
we
as
I
see
this
as
we
as
a
society?
So
it's
great
to
incentivize
and
maybe
there's
more.
We
need
to
do,
but
I
also
do
am
a
little
bit
concerned
going
forward.
B
E
If
I
may
I
mean
your
points
very
well
taken
and
I,
and
that's
one
of
the
questions
or
one
of
the
concerns
or
we
are
going
to
be
addressing,
we're-
are
addressing
in
our
carbon
free
box
and
project,
because
the
the
point
is
to
an
analyze,
those
programs
and
policies
we
need
to
put
in
place
to
reach
the
carbon
neutrality
goal
by
2050.
How
do
we
do
that
in
a
practical
way,
both
in
terms
of
you
know
the
financial
sense
and
in
a
political
sense?
How
do
we
structure
that
conversation.
B
To
that
end,
thank
you
for
that.
Carl
I
think
that
it
would
be
worthwhile
reviewing
what
requirements
make
something
LEED
certified,
be
it
platinum
or
otherwise.
I
think
20
years
ago,
having
a
low-flow
toilet
and
energy-efficient
bulb,
you
know
meant
a
lot
more
than
it
does
now.
I'm
not
trying
to
be.
B
You
know
funny
about
it,
but
I
would
say
that
we
have
an
opportunity
as
a
city,
and
this
could
be
through
the
BPD
a
it
could
be
through
zoning
I'm
not
entirely
sure,
but
we'll
get
to
that,
that
we
can
strengthen
the
requirements
to
be
LEED
certified
and
what
it
means
to
be
LEED
certified
in
terms
of
getting
to
our
goal
by
2050.
Where
are
we
at
our
goal?
For
2020
is
25%
and
what's
what's
do
you
have
any
idea
what
the
number
is
now
and
nearly
2018
our.
E
E
It's
come
up
a
bit
from
the
low
point
of
three
years
ago,
when,
when
very
good
weather
and
the
first
you
know
falling
gas
prices
drove,
you
know
all
the
remaining
coal
and
oil,
or
most
of
them
out
of
our
energy
system.
So
we
had
a
big
production
there.
It's
crept
up
a
bit
since
then,
anyway,
that's
where
we
are
now
except
the
the
details
of
the
inventory,
should
be
out
in
the
next
few
things.
Well,.
B
I
would
hazard
a
guess
that
everyone
in
this
room
is
dedicated
to
working
with
you
and
with
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
we
can
meet
and
exceed
that
goal
in
three
years.
Two
quick
announcements
then
I
want
to
thank
city,
councilor,
at-large,
Ayanna
Presley
for
joining
us
Thank
You,
councillor,
Presley
and
I.
Think
it's
an
indicative
that
so
many
counselors
are
here
and
also
I
saw
another
councillor
elect
district
2
city
councillor
like
Ed
Flynn,
Thank
You
councillor
like
Flynn
for
being
here
as
well.
B
D
Just
really
quickly
Matt
you
covered
just
about
everything,
there's
about
five
billion
dollars
and
shovels
in
the
ground
give
or
take.
Now.
How
is
our
policies
now
affecting
the
five
billion
that's
in
the
pipeline,
because
we
continue
to
talk
about
2030
now
2050,
but
you
know
we
have
construction
going
on
now.
So
what's
the
positive
negative
effects
is
there
any
effect?
You
just
got
to
give
me
a
ballpark
explanation
of
what's
going
on
now
sure.
F
I
will
speak
to
the
large
projects
that
are
coming
under
the
BPD.
A
review.
Energy
performances
is
a
key
focus
of
our
review
these
projects
and,
in
fact
our
review
is
prompting
a
number
of
changes
right
before
our
eyes
in
the
industry
and
I'll
point
to
a
particular
nuance,
which
is
building
energy
modeling.
This
is
how
buildings
have
traditionally
demonstrated
their
compliance
with
state
building
energy
codes
in
Boston.
We
actually
require
building
energy
models
early
in
the
project
planning
process.
F
We
do
this
because
we
want
to
understand
how
the
proposed
project
will
perform,
but
we
also
do
this
because
we
know,
if
you
begin,
measuring,
building
performance
up
front,
you
can
make
better
decisions
about
the
building
early
on.
This
is
a
new
project.
We
have
a
new
initiative
in
a
certain
sense.
We
haven't
seen
many
projects
that
have
had
this
kind
of
robust
engagement
built
in
and
have
performance
yet,
but
that
will
come
in
the
next
year
or
two
so
that
that's
one
direct
way
of
how
we're
affecting
practice
around
energy
performance.
F
D
H
I
Baker
good
morning,
gentlemen,
so,
like
it,
can
you
explain
to
me
it's
like
the
new
buildings
that
are
going
up,
anything
that
you
look
at
here?
How
how
difficult
is
it
for
them
to
just
be
lead,
sir
five,
is
it
not
very
difficult
just
using
the
new
the
newer
products
that
are
available
now,
the
building
products
like
like
how
close,
if
you're,
not
really
sharpening
your
pencil,
would
you
get
to
to
being
LEED
certified
on
you
know
any
any
type
of
building
that
we
see
going
on
sure.
F
It's
worth
noting
that
the
suite
of
LEED
rating
systems
has
recently
undergone
an
upgrade.
We
now
require
all
projects
to
comply
with
version
4
of
the
LEED
rating
system.
It's
much
more
rigorous
around
energy,
both
in
terms
of
building
performance,
but
also
in
terms
of
transportation
and
other
criteria.
So
it's
been
if
you
will
reprioritize
with
much
more
of
a
focus
on
carbon
reduction.
At
this
point,
I
would
say
a
code
compliant
building
would
probably
fall
short
of
meeting
LEED
certifiable
without
some
measurable
efforts.
What's
a
little
bit
hard
is
practice.
F
Normalization
folks
know
exactly
what
we'll
accept
as
a
minimum
response
today
and
so
by
nature.
We
don't
see
less.
What's
really
good
is
by
this
ongoing
dialogue.
We
see
better
practices.
So,
even
though
LEED
v4
is
more
rigorous,
we're
seeing
projects
that
are
committing
to
achieving
LEED
Gold,
for
instance,
especially
the
larger
ones
that
are
anticipating
greater
impacts
and
greater
changes.
If
you
will.
F
F
They
are
I,
think
also
quite
enlightened.
We
selected
the
LEED
rating
system
because
it
has
a
market
value
dimension
to
it.
So
it
leaves
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
them
to
realize
by
meeting
our
leadership
goals
in
the
marketplace,
and
so
that's
also
produces
a
lot
of
pressure,
our
second
tier
and
third
tier
practitioners.
F
They
got
to
compete
with
each
other
and,
if
they're,
bringing
in
buildings
that
are
weak
performers,
the
market
will
know
it
and
the
market
will
value
accordingly.
We're
seeing
this
in
the
existing
building
sector,
two
most
close
to
half
of
the
lead
buildings
in
Boston
are
existing
buildings,
and
many
of
them
are
large
high-rise.
Buildings
are
million
square
foot
towers.
F
These
buildings
have
undergone
LEED
for
existing
building
certification
and
have
seen
dramatic
reductions
in
energy
use,
like
you,
itemized
with
Castle
Square,
we're
seeing
huge,
huge
energy
performance
improvements
in
really
really
big
buildings,
and
this
is
outside
of
our
regulatory
space.
This
is
entirely
by
market
practice.
It's
intentional,
but
we're
not
lifting
a
finger
for
these
carbon
reduction
achievements.
Yeah.
F
Glass,
where
the
building
exteriors,
principally
glass,
panes,
there's
a
lot
of
beauty
to
that,
as
well
as
functionality
to
that
most
use
a
basic
curtain
wall
system
that
doesn't
provide
a
great
deal
of
insulation
along
the
exterior.
That's
not
true
entirely.
We
do
have
buildings
lengthy
many,
the
Hancock
Manulife
building
in
South
Boston
that
uses
a
more
advanced
triple
wall
system.
But
the
majority
of
the
buildings
that
are
going
up
are
using
a
double
insulated
wall
system
and
and.
I
F
I
F
It's
it's.
It's
really
a
it's
really
kind
of
a
magic
moment.
If
you'll
allow
me
we
have
seen
fantastic
advances
in
technology
and
in
particular,
in
systems
called
air
source
heat
pumps.
They
can
produce
heating
from
outside
air
in
the
coldest
of
winter
days
and
they
do
it
much
more
efficiently
than
things
like
electric
resistant
heating,
mostly
though
we're
making
our
buildings
much
more
efficient,
and
we
can
do
that
with
no
added
cost.
F
At
this
point
we
do
incur
different
costs,
so
we
spend
more
on
the
building
exterior
on
the
envelope
with
insulation
and
the
thickness
of
walls,
but
we
spend
a
lot
less
on
the
building
mechanical
systems
that
keep
the
buildings
warm
and
cool,
and
then,
of
course,
we
spend
a
lot
less
heating
and
cooling
the
buildings.
There
are
some
important
synergies
here
too,
which
I
think
will
be
significant
going
forward
and
that
is
building
resiliency
to
climate
change.
F
Yes
and
that
envelope
doesn't
go
anywhere,
so
it's
a
it's
a
beautiful
thing
actually
and
the
systems
that
are
supporting
it
now
are
things
you
can
go
to
Home,
Depot
and
buy.
You
know
the
next
time
your
electric
water
heater
bails
out
on
you.
You
will
probably
buy
an
air-source
heat
pump,
water
heater,
it
won't
cost
you
any
more.
The
utilities
will
throw
you
a
bunch
of
money,
it'll
save.
F
I
F
Is
this
is
the
residential
scale
and
it's
probably
the
most
robust
practice
area
right
now
and
in
fact,
I
think
we
expect
to
see
the
state
come
out
with
a
package
of
incentives
to
further
the
small
residential
use
of
air
source
heat
pump
systems
and
air
source
hot
water,
air
source
heat
pump,
hot
water
systems.
So
you'll
see
those
prices
come
down
both
on
the
supply
side,
as
manufacturers,
computer.
I
I
E
And
and
and
the
city
of
Boston
is
now
working
with
several
others-
other
cities
in
New
England,
including
Somerville,
Northampton,
Providence
and
Portland
Maine,
to
say
how
can
we
bring
information
about
air
source
heat
pumps
to
the
residential
community
that
it
can
is
most
isn't
the
best
place
to
take
advantage
of
it?
So
it's
actually
not
homes
that
have
gas,
but
homes
that
have
oil
heating
or
that
have
electric
resistance
heat
now,
yeah.
I
I
E
And
this,
of
course,
is
why
we're
you
know
you
know
here
in
Austin
and,
and
you
know,
and
the
commonwealth
of
course
is
doing
a
huge
amount
of
work
in
this
area
working
to
increase
the
supply
of
renewable
energy
in
the
electric
grid,
and
so
it
benefits
from
that
in
the
long
term,
as
the
grid
becomes
greener.
Okay,.
F
E
F
I
F
The
the
use
of
air
source
heat
pumps
for
heating
has
probably
been
around
close
to
ten
years
now,
which
dramatically
different
is
the
number
of
suppliers,
the
cost
and
the
fact
that
you
can
simply
go
to
Home
Depot
and
buy
these
things.
You
know
it
might
not
be
the
right
thing
for
you,
but
they're
plentiful,
there's
a
lot
more
types
and
a
lot
more
variety
of
the
product
available.
So
it's
getting.
You
know
much
more
user
friendly
with
Plus
buildings.
Our
biggest
challenge
initially
was
buying
systems
that
were
small
enough.
F
B
You
thank
you.
It's
great
questions.
Councillor
Baker
and
thank
you
now.
I
would
only
like
in
that,
despite
the
outward
hostility
in
Washington,
the
market
is
really
stepping
up
here.
Is
that
point
about
heat
pumps,
I'd
say
the
same
thing
with
electric
cars
ten
years
ago.
Very
few
people
could
afford
that,
but
because
of
an
increased
awareness
as
well
as
some
incentives
from
both
the
private
and
the
public
sector,
you're
seeing
more
and
more
people
use
it.
So
that's
why.
I
The
first
person
to
use
one
of
those
burners
it
it
fails
on
you
in
two
years.
If
you
waited
the
five
years,
you
get
a
better
exactly
burner
so
I
think.
If
I
am
Andrea
heard
about
them,
people
using
them,
then
you
know.
My
sense
is
that
they're,
a
little
while
away
from
from
coming
into
wide
use
in
residential?
Would
that
be
safe
to
say,
you're.
K
K
My
colleagues
and
I
just
came
from,
and
we
think
the
mass
municipal,
Research
Bureau
for
hosting
us
annually
and
I
was
sharing
a
statistic
at
the
lunch
that
in
2030
85%
of
the
jobs
that
will
exist
then
haven't
even
been
invented
yet
which
begs
a
larger
question
in
terms
of
readiness,
so
in
the
space
of
green
jobs
and
readiness
of
our
students
and
our
workforce,
etc.
I'm
just
curious.
K
You
know,
because
I
think
for
a
long
time.
Issues
in
this
face
we're
seen
as
so
forward,
thinking
and
progressive
and
now
they're,
just
you
know
critically
necessary
and
the
president
also
for
our
future
and
so
from
a
workforce,
an
economy
side
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
If
we
have
any
sense
of
how
many
green
jobs
you
currently
have
right
now
and
as
we
continue
to
have
these
address
the
challenges
relative
to
a
skills
gap,
how
do
we
address
that?
F
F
We
have
great
partners
who
have
helped
us
in
all
of
this
work,
and
it's
worth
mentioning
the
US
GBC
Massachusetts
Council
is
here
our
executive
director,
Meredith
Imam
is
here,
and
the
chapter
has
been
leading
in
an
effort
that
was
recently
awarded
I.
Think
about
250,000
dollars
for
job
training
in
this
specific
area,
with
a
focus
toward
our
younger
practitioners.
F
Recent
high
school
graduates,
in
particular
it's
a
consortium
of
practitioners
and
I,
can't
speak
knowledgeably
about
all
the
aspects
of
it.
But
it's
very
much
on
our
radar
and
I
think
it's
it's
an
incredible
opportunity
to
grow
our
economy
right
here
by
keeping
resources
here,
we're
not
buying
oil
from
wherever
we
get
it
from
we're
using
our
human
resources
and
our
natural
resources
much
more
efficiently
right
here,
and
so
we
create
a
cycle
where
we
all
benefit
better.
K
I
mean
you
know,
certainly
if
we're
talking
about,
if
you
will
a
retraining
of
people
that
are
already
in
the
industry
or
you
know,
in
construction
or
in
the
trade,
certainly
that
you
know
begs
a
larger
question
and
concern
relative
to
equity
and
opportunity
for
these
jobs.
You
know
so
certainly
at
the
fore
of
my
mind
is
you
know:
Madison
Park,
High
School,
and
also
that
we're
not
only
thinking
about
our
youth
but
people
mid-career.
You
know
we
have
a
real
skills
gap
and
an
unemployment.
K
You
know
issue
here
and
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
those
that
are
in
the
greatest
need,
and
also
who
are
the
most
vulnerable
to
environmental
justice
issues-
are
having
an
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
this
economy
in
this
workforce.
So,
just
if
you
can't
at
this
time,
provide
me
with
the
number
and
I'll
think,
maybe
you
could
advise
me
as
to
who
to
follow
up
with,
but
do
we
know
right
now
how
many
green
jobs
we
have
and
where
the
lion's
share
of
them
are
sort
of?
What's
the
geography
and
why.
E
Don't
we
get
that
information
for
you
I
know
the
some
of
the
research
folks
at
the
BP
da
have
looked
at
that
and
other
folks
to
know
we
are,
and
just
as
another
example,
you
know
we
are
very
concerned
about
retraining.
We
are
actually
as
sort
of
a
pilot
program
looking
at
how
do
we
retrain
the
facilities
manage
the
building
managers
of
the
city
of
Boston
so
that
they
are
ready
to?
K
C
C
E
C
E
C
E
C
That
I
think
changing
the
framework
and
the
sort
of
bargaining
or
incentives
that
the
private
sector
is
dealing
with
is
is
really
the
fastest
and
only
way
to
to
ensure
that
we're
gonna
get
there
so
would
be
pushing
ideal
even
sooner
than
the
timeline
of
2019,
to
get
to
the
conversation
about
legal
tools
and
how
we
begin
to
take
back
the
leadership
from
the
west
coast
on
this
issue.
Thank
you
hear.
B
L
E
E
M
N
B
You
go
okay!
Thank
you.
So,
gentlemen,
if
you
don't
mind
you
thank
you.
Both
you've
agreed
to
stay
to
hear
from
the
experts
if
you
just
want
to
grab
those
two
seats
or
those
two
seats,
whichever
pleasure
and
I'd
like
to
invite
down
Christopher
Schaffner
Jana,
Silsbee
Bob
busy,
oh
and
joan
fitzgerald
own
fitzgerald,
if
you
could
just
join
these
four,
and
thank
you
all
for
coming.
B
H
Janice
Silsbee
I
am
a
principal
Perkins
Eastman,
which
is
a
global
architecture
firm,
but
we
have
a
Boston
office
right
up
at
20
Ashburton
place.
Our
work
encompasses
pretty
much
all
market
sectors
of
buildings
and
master
planning,
and
we
are
signatories
to
the
AIA
2030
commitment,
I'm
a
registered
architect
of
25
years,
and
for
the
past
15
years,
I've
been
focused
on
highly
energy-efficient
high-performance
buildings,
including
those
targeting
Net
Zero.
H
H
In
civil
terms,
this
means
that
the
building
produces
as
much
energy
as
it
consumes
now,
a
NetZero
carbon
building
is
slightly
different
and
that
it
is
a
highly
energy
efficient
building
that
produces
on-site
or
procures
enough
carbon
free,
renewable
energy
to
meet
the
building's
energy
and
energy
consumption.
So
in
either
case
the
first
step
is
very
important
to
NetZero
is
to
reduce
energy
consumption.
H
That
is
where
I
as
an
architect
focus
my
efforts
in
the
k-12
projects
that
I
do
I've
achieved,
70%,
lower
energy
use
than
the
national
average,
and
the
way
that
my
project
teams
have
done.
That
is,
first
by
setting
energy
goals
with
clients
early
at
the
beginning
of
a
highly
integrative
process,
utilizing
best
practices
for
massing
and
solar
orientation
and
day
lighting
control
and
then
through.
H
An
air
tight,
exterior
fenestration
with
high
insulating
values
and
I
might
also
add
appropriate
window
to
wall
ratios
and
then
highly
energy,
efficient
systems
for
heating,
cooling,
ventilating
lighting
and
food
preparation
that
are
integrated
working
collaboratively
with
engineers,
users
and
owners.
We
use
energy
modeling
throughout
the
process
to
inform
our
design
decisions
so
that
we
make
ensure
that
we
are
making
smart
and
cost-effective
decisions,
but
it
is
also
important
that
buildings
are
properly
operated,
maintained
and
tracked
so
that
they
continue
to
be
highly
efficient
through
the
years
once
these
measures
are
taken.
H
Renewable
energy
sources
can
provide
the
relatively
small
energy
demands
for
these
buildings.
The
design
and
engineering
community
welcomes
thoughtful
and
practical
challenges
to
improve
the
buildings
that
we
design,
and
we
are
confident
that
such
actions
will
result
in
buildings
that
cost
less
to
operate,
pollute
less
and
are
more
resilient
in
extreme
weather
events
as
design
professionals.
We
encourage
the
public
sector
to
both
require
and
incentivize
actions
which
move
the
city
towards
carbon
neutrality.
We
applaud
the
council's
leadership
on
this
issue
and
we
stand
ready
to
support
you
to
answer
questions.
Thank.
B
M
Afternoon
I'm
Bob
bid
you
I'm
the
senior
vice
president
of
facilities
for
Boston
Medical
Center
I'd,
like
you
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today.
Boston
Medical
Center
is
a
proud
leader
in
the
area
of
environmental
sustainability
and
we'd,
like
we
wanted
to
share
our
experience
with
you.
M
Well.
This
may
seem
like
an
extraordinary
accomplishment
for
a
larger
urban
academic,
Medical
Center.
What
we
have
found
while
on
this
journey
is
that
these
efforts
have
improved
the
resiliency
and
the
quality
of
our
facilities,
while
simultaneously
reducing
the
total
energy
spent
by
nearly
50
percent.
These
efforts
were
multifaceted.
First
and
foremost
came
an
in-depth
space
planning
analysis
which
focused
on
maximizing
the
utilization
or
perhaps
better
described
as
the
productivity
of
the
own
square
footage
of
our
buildings.
M
This
process
led
us
to
launch
our
campus
redesign
plan,
which
consolidates
our
current
two
campuses
into
one,
thereby
eliminating
space
redundancies
which
witnesses
necessitated
by
the
two
Campus
configurations.
The
end
result
provided
us
with
a
roadmap
to
reduce
our
campus
square
footage
by
nearly
400,000
square
feet,
while
simultaneously
growing
the
capacity
to
see
patients
across
most
of
our
service
lines.
For
example,
our
emergency
department,
which
was
already
the
busiest
in
New
England,
will
expand
its
capacity
by
nearly
30%.
M
We
entered
into
a
long-term
screen
steam
contract
with
Veolia,
which
shifted
our
supply
of
district
steam
consumption
over
to
Co
generated
steam,
and
then
the
largest
contributor
to
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
reduction
can
be
attributed
to
working
with
a
better
working
with
a
better
city
to
collaborate
with
post
office
square
garage
and
MIT
to
enter
into
the
largest
collaborative
Power
Purchase
Agreement
for
solar
power
ever
executed
in
the
United
States.
This
contract
produces
power
which
is
equivalent
to
100
percent
of
Boston
Medical
Center's
expected
electric
consumption
upon
the
completion
of
our
campus
redesign
plan.
M
B
O
Christopher,
yes,
so
tough
act
to
follow
mine,
my
name
is
Chris
Shaw
I'm,
the
president
and
founder
of
a
company
called
the
green
engineer,
we're
a
sustainable
design,
consulting
firm
and
to
the
earlier
counselors
question
about
green
jobs.
We
were
one
person
in
2005
today
we're
eighteen
people
and
we're
hiring
and
we're
not
unique.
There
are
lots
of
businesses
like
ours
that
have
grown
as
part
of
the
green
economy.
O
I'm
a
mechanical
engineer,
I'm
a
registered
professional
engineer
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts
I,
served
on
mayor,
Menino's,
green
building,
task
force,
Advisory,
Committee,
and
also
in
governor
Patrick's,
NetZero,
Energy,
building
task
force
and
I
work
on
a
lot
of
those
in
Boston.
My
clients
include
people
like
Boston,
Properties
and
skanska,
and
Tishman
Speyer
and
falen
companies.
O
People
like
that
who
are
building
the
Seaport
and
all
of
the
big
buildings
in
town
and
I
want
to
make
for
real
key
points
about
where
we
are
on
things
like
carbon
free
buildings,
I
think
the
biggest
takeaway
is
that
buildings
have
a
long
life.
So
where
is
a
car
or
consumer
appliance
in
2030?
The
car
you
buy
now
is
probably
honest.
Last
legs:
the
decisions
we
make
on
a
building
today
are
going
to
affect
the
consumption
of
energy
of
that
building
for
the
next
30
50.
O
Perhaps
a
hundred
years
and
the
time
to
put
the
efficiency
measures
in
is
now
when
we're
designing
it
and
building,
and
initially
it's
much
more
cost-effective,
it
can
be
often
done
at
no
additional
cost.
If
we
do
it
now,
and
so
the
biggest
impact
is
at
the
beginning,
not
as
a
retrofit,
and
so
we
talked
a
lot
about
debt,
zero
source,
energy
and
that's
your
site,
energy
units
or
a
carbon
net.
Zero
energy
is
a
really
worthy
goal
and
it's
something
that
some
buildings
are
able
to
achieve.
O
O
First
of
all,
we're
going
to
build
that
savings
into
these
buildings
from
the
beginning
and
move
us
away
from
trying
to
heat
our
buildings
with
fossil
fuels,
and
it's
going
to
increase
the
demand
for
renewable
energy.
When
you
look
at
things
like
what
Boston
Medical
Center
has
done,
what
that's
doing
is
increasing
the
supply
of
renewable
energy
for
everyone,
so
we
are
greening
the
grid
and
getting
to
a
better
place
and
the
technologies
are
viable.
Today
we
can
decarbonize
the
heat,
the
air
source,
heat
pumps,
that
Dalzell
mentioned
these
we're
putting
these
in
everywhere.
O
These
days,
they're
there
they're
really
very,
very
very
viable.
The
fourth
point
that
was
raised
in
the
previous
round
of
speakers
about
the
city
already
having
a
requirement
for
LEED.
That's
a
great
thing
that
we
do
that,
but
the
fact
is
that
LEED
is
not
actually
keeping
up
with
where
we
need
to
be
the
state
base
energy
code
nevermind
this
stretch
code,
the
state
base
energy
code
is
already
more
stringent
than
the
minimum
requirements
of
lead,
so
to
be
simply
a
LEED
certified
building
in
our
office.
O
P
My
last
book
was
called
emerald
cities
where
I
focused
on
the
link
between
economic
development
and
a
city,
sustainability
plan
and
I'll
be
publishing
one
next
year
called
green
ovations.
Urban
leadership
on
climate
action,
I
focus
on
European
and
North
American
cities
looking
at
replicable
policies,
and
one
area
of
course,
is
how
do
we
get
to
zero
net
energy
buildings
and
also
100
percent
renewable
energy?
So,
in
a
couple
minutes,
I
have
I
just
like
to
say
a
few
things
about
different
approaches
to
getting
there.
P
One
is
interim
policies
and
thinking
about
making
sure
you're
establishing
a
successful
base.
One
is
to
do
piloting
at
the
district
scale
going
beyond
the
building
scale.
To
do
it,
and
then
the
one
is
looking
at
partnerships
with
developers.
So
let
me
start
with
Vancouver,
where
I
was
just
on
the
phone
this
morning
with
people
about
how
they're
implementing
their
plans
Vancouver
has
a
renewable
city
strategy
with
a
goal
to
get
to
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy,
along
with
the
zero
emissions
energy
plan.
P
What
that
means
in
practice
for
say
a
condo
going
up
like
many
of
those
in
Boston,
is
that
right
now
it
has
to
make
two
targets:
one
having
to
do
with
the
thermal
energy
demand
between
32
and
40
kilowatt
hours
per
square
meter
per
year
for
heating
and
25
to
35
for
hot
water,
a
very
ambitious
goal
for
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
That
is
six
kilograms
per
square
meter
per
year.
P
So
just
to
give
you
an
example
of
where
that's
moving
Vancouver,
it's
toward
the
complete
electrification
of
buildings,
as
we
talked
about
we
heard
about
in
the
previous
panel,
and
that's
really
important
for
a
city
like
Vancouver,
because
all
of
its
almost
all
of
its
electricity
comes
from
hydropower.
So
if
you're,
all
electric
you're,
all
green.
So
if
you're
all
electric
six
on
natural
gas.
Now
someone
asked
about
natural
gas
companies.
P
So
they
can
get
ready
to
doing
that
because
it
does
require
news,
techni,
construction
technologies,
so
I
think
that
is
a
strategy
that
anticipates
all
of
the
regulatory
as
well
as
just
construction
technologies
that
are
going
to
be
needed
at
the
district
scale.
We
heard
in
the
last
panel,
very
briefly
about
about
fort
said
in
Fort,
Collins
Colorado.
This
is
an
area
of
two
miles
square.
P
15
percent
of
the
electricity
load
of
the
city
and
what
they're
doing
is
building
to
zero
net
energy
standard
there,
but
I
think
what
happens
when
you
move
to
the
district
scale
from
the
building
scale?
Is
it
allows
them
to
look
at
integration
of
distributed
systems?
So
what
this
is
about
is
moving
energy
from
one
building
to
another
from
one
area
to
the
other,
so
you
can
actually
shave
peak
demand
as
as
part
of
the
process
of
getting
to
zero
net
energy.
P
There's
a
lot
of
software
that
needs
to
be
tested
to
do
this,
a
lot
of
different
technology
geez.
So
this
is
a
public-private
partnership
between
many
software
companies.
So,
in
addition,
speaking
to
the
economic
development
question,
they're
developing
the
technologies
of
the
future
that
are
going
to
build
that
zero
net
energy.
So
before
I
mentioned
about
the
construction
community,
the
development
community,
another
city
I,
follow
closely
as
Malmo
Sweden
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
have
done,
realizing
that
the
building
community
needs
to
learn.
P
This
is
just
establish
this
living
building
partnership,
and
so,
if
a
developer
wants
to
build
in
that
city,
the
city
will
say
to
them:
okay,
we're
expecting
you
to
build
to
say
85
kilowatt
hours
per
square
meter
per
year
and
the
developers
say:
I,
don't
know
how
to
do
that
and
they
said
well
we're
going
to
learn,
and
so
at
each
step,
the
various
developers
and
construction
companies
are
learning.
The
new
technologies
experimenting
finding
out
what
learn
what
works
and
what
doesn't.
P
So
just
if
I
may
one
more
quick
one
because
I
think
there's
a
social
justice
connection
to
this
is
all
at
all
that
we
should
be
building
low-income,
green
housing
as
well
and
there's
a
person.
His
last
name
is
O'connell
who's
developing
in
Philadelphia,
Passivhaus
standard,
affordable
housing.
This
is
for
the
lowest
income
populations.
Passivhaus
just
means
no
external
heating
or
cooling
systems
required.
He's
figured
out
a
way
to
do
this
at
only
about
two
to
three
percent
above
what
it
would
cost
to
be
to
do.
P
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Professor
I
wanted
to
acknowledge.
We've
been
joined
by
our
good
friend,
the
district
9
CID
eight-nine
City
County
District,
nine
city,
councillor
mark
Cielo,
Thank,
You,
councillor,
co-moh
and
I
again
want
to
thank
the
BCC
for
helping
to
put
together
this
phenomenal
panel.
You
guys
covered
so
much
important
stuff.
You
talked
about
the
possible.
You
talked
about
the
practical,
you
talked
about
the
political
and
it
was
really
really
impressive.
B
B
Million
dollars
annually
phenomenal
now
I,
don't
know
the
answer.
This
question
I'm
asking
it
anyway,
I
assume
a
large
part
of
why,
in
all
likelihood
one
year
from
now,
BMC
is
gonna
reach.
Its
goal
has
been
the
co
generational.
Can
you
talk
anyou
talk
about
what
it
is,
why
it's
important,
how
it,
how
it's
been
able
to
be
a
successful
part
of
this
sort
of
portfolio
that
you
put
forward
so.
M
It
is
a
natural
gas-fired
engine,
it's
on
the
roof
of
our
Yaqui
building,
which
bridges
massive,
and
it
essentially
allows
us
to
generate
about
20
percent
of
our
power
on-site
at
a
peak
period,
and
it's
about
35,
more
efficient,
35
percent,
more
efficient
than
a
traditional
power,
because
when
you
generate
electricity
in
a
power
plant,
normally
the
heat
is
extracted
to
atmosphere,
whereas
generating
it
on
site
allows
us
to
utilize
that
heat
to
both
heat
our
facility,
as
well
as
you
know,
for
process
loads,
so
that
we
have
within
the
hospital.
That's
great.
That's.
M
B
M
We
could
have
gone
larger,
however.
The
key
to
getting
maximum
efficiency
is
to
be
able
to
use
that
heat
on
a
year-round
basis
and
most
buildings,
hospitals
and
lab
buildings
generate
a
lot
of
heat,
even
in
the
summer
months,
I
see,
and
so
it's
sized
in
order
to
match
that
heat
load
there
summer
months,
so
that
we
get
maximum
efficiency
and
have.
B
Any
of
the
other
great
institutions
and
hospitals
and
sort
of
LMA
and
elsewhere
reached
out
to
you
to
say:
hey.
We
want
to
do
this,
yes,
they're
fantastic!
Thank
you.
Christo
you've
been
in
this
space
working
here
for
a
while.
You
know
we
talked
briefly
the
other
day
and
I've
sort
of
done
a
little
research.
So
talk
about
how
technology
has
changed
and
I
guess.
The
question
is:
do
we
need
technology
to
continue
to
change
and
wait
to
sort
of
implement
some
of
these
things,
I
think.
O
That's
a
good
question:
I
was
at
a
northeaster
actually
a
couple
years
ago,
their
energy
conference
and
somebody
from
Northeastern
who's
not
here,
spoke
up
and
said
that
you
students
are
going
to
invent
the
things
that
that
fix
our
future.
Basically
and
I
walked
away
from
that
very
upset
and
I
teach
part-time
at
Northeastern
I
told
my
students
there.
No
that's
exactly
wrong.
O
We
have
all
the
tools
right
now:
the
technology
like
LED
lighting,
the
air
source,
heat
pumps,
the
advanced
building,
automation
systems,
the
double
triple
skinned
facades
with
electrochromic
glazing
that
can
shade
itself
all
the
smart
building
technology.
All
the
renewables
at
a
nice
low
price
now
compared
to
where
we
used
to
be
the
time
is
now
to
do
this.
There's
no
reason
to
wait.
Yes,
there
will
be
new
innovations
and
things
will
continue
to
improve,
but
we've
got
everything
we
need
to
reach
any
of
these
goals
right
now,
fantastic
and.
B
Then
Jana
and
Joan,
can
you
talk
about
what
you've
sort
of
seen
in
the
private
sector?
In
your
experience
as
an
architect
and
what
you've
studied
you
referenced
a
couple
of
other
cities:
incentives
that
some
cities
have
you
utilized
to
be
at
a
change
and
Oh
questions
that
who
sets
the
lead
Co,
who
says
is
that
is
that
a
federal?
So
we
said
it
who
sets
Li
what
is
complete.
B
B
O
O
Base
energy
code
is
about
5%.
More
stringent
didn't
leads
minimum
requirement
for
energy.
If
your
leave
platinum
building,
that's
still
a
major
achieve.
So
that's
a
lot
and
lead
covers
a
lot
of
things
besides
energy,
but
just
on
that
energy
piece,
we
can't
rely
on
lead
as
a
requirement
alone
to
get
us
where
we
need
to
be
so
is.
O
Process
there
are
people
advocating
for
different
levels
of
Carbon
Reduction
at
different
levels
of
certification,
yeah,
maybe
something
that
happens.
Certainly
the
bar
will
get
raised
as
building
codes
change,
but
right
now
you
know,
and
and
the
hard
part
is
too-
that
a
lot
of
projects
that
are
actually
under
construction
right
now
are
still
using
the
previous
version
of
lead
because
they
went
for
their
initial
permitting
back
three
four
or
five
years
ago.
Before
that
new
version
came.
B
Right
back
to
Joan
and
Jana,
what
have
you
seen
sort
of
from
the
business
perspective
and
then
from
sort
of
best
practices?
What
tools
or
incentives
have
other
cities
used
to
move
us
to
Net
Zero
or
to
move
their
cities
that
we
could
perhaps
implement
to
move
to?
Net
Zero
wants
to
jump
in
first
well,.
P
I
I
think
the
idea
of
the
need
to
get
the
private
sector
on
board
I
mean
you.
You
often
hear
people
in
the
city
governments
say
well,
we
can't
tell
developers
what
to
do
and-
and
one
of
the
approaches
that
I
I
see
throughout
the
United
States
is
something
that
was
developed
by
an
organization
called
architecture
2030
with
these
2030
districts,
where
you
get
almost
all
of
the
building
owners
and
managers
in
a
downtown
district
to
agree
to
not
net
zero
yet
but
to
very
high
levels
of
energy
efficiency,
water
efficiency
and
Tran
rotation.
P
And
what
I
like
about
this
approach?
Is
that
it's
voluntary,
but
it
really
gets
the
business
community
on
board
and
it's
it's
Seattle
was
the
first
one,
but
it's
not
just
the
Seattle's,
it's
the
Pittsburgh
and
Cleveland
ones
that
are
really
moving,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
combination
of
not
doing
so
much
regulation
that
the
private
sectors
you
know
developers
are
screaming
about
it,
but
getting
them
on
board
and
having
having
them
be
partners
in
doing
it
is
very
effective.
Thank.
H
You
here
in
Cambridge,
I'm,
very
most
familiar
with
Cambridge
I,
have
to
admit,
because
I've
worked
with
them
as
a
long-term
client.
They
have
incentives
that
are
built
into
their
program,
including
like
incentives
for
height
an
area.
I
have
to
say,
though,
that
most
of
the
cities
that
are
doing
the
most
amazing
things
I
mean
even
including
like
Washington
DC,
which
is
the
first
LEED
Platinum
City,
is
that
they're
actually
leading
by
example.
H
It's
getting
the
municipal
buildings
on
board
first
to
show
that
it
can
be
done
and
doing
it
at
costs
that
are
right
in
the
middle
of
the
averages
for
buildings
of
a
similar
type
that
are
being
built
at
that
time
and
I
think
that
so
it's
not
just
standing
back
and
letting
the
developers
you
know
wrestle
with
it.
It's
also
showing
them.
This
can
be
done.
It
can
be
done
at
scale
and
even
right
here
in
Boston
I
mean
you
know.
H
H
Actually,
you
know
increasing,
even
though
it's
version,
four
we're
increasing
our
goals
and
our
energy
efficiency
and
they're
actually
also
looking
at
well
so
there's,
which
is
another
building
standard,
so
I
think
that
it's
by
example-
and
it's
that
the
devil
is
in
the
details
of
a
building
I,
know
a
lot
of
people
talk
about
the
gizmos
and
gadgets
that
you
can
add
to
a
building
to
make
it
energy
efficient.
But
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
like
to
do
as
a
mindset
is:
let's
pretend
we
don't
have
systems.
H
Let's
pretend
that
it
is
that
you
know
event
when
all
the
power
goes
out.
How
can
we
design
a
building
that
doesn't
essentially
can
exist
without
systems,
and
then
we
integrate
the
systems
we
do
the
best
envelope.
We
possibly
can
again
reiterating
what
Chris
said
you
invest
the
dollars
and
the
things
that
last,
let's
not
invest
in
a
system.
That's
going
to
have
a
20-year
lifespan,
which
is
what
most
mechanical
systems
are
at.
H
H
The
reason
they
did,
that
is,
they
did
not
want
high-performance
envelopes
with
a
lot
of
insulation
to
be
penalized,
so
your
gross
floor
area
is
that
that
sheathing
and
then,
if
you
add
four
inches
of
insulation
or
five
inches
of
insulation
or
whatever
it
is,
it
still
is
back
at
that
point
of
the
sheathing.
So
everybody
is
on
a
level
playing
field
and
you're
not
penalized.
B
That's
smart,
so
so
a
couple
takeaways
from
that
cities
need
to
lead
by
example.
Obviously
there
are
some
incentives,
and
just
that's
it.
I
had
never
even
thought
of
that,
but
doing
that
can
can
be
different.
The
third
point,
I,
would
say-
and
I've
said
this
to
some
members
of
the
BCC-
is
it's
incumbent
upon
us
as
well
as
members
of
the
community?
We
often
Boston
is
in
its
third
biggest
building
boom.
B
Often,
there's
asked
for
increased
affordability
and
a
trade-off
on
density,
also
important
mitigation
for
the
community,
but
I
would
also
argue
that
as
all
of
us
as
residents,
we
need
to
start
ask
for
more
on
Net
Zero
Carbon
buildings
as
well,
and
that
should
be
a
that
should
be
part
of
the
community
process
in
terms
of
what
we
want
to
see
built
in
our
neighborhoods
and
outside
of
the
downtown.
So
thank
you
for
that.
That's
all
I
have
to
give
a
question
this
caused
our.
L
Clarity:
same
wavelength,
mr.
chairman,
on
the
tools
and
incentives,
because
I
think
that's
one
of
the
issues.
It's
probably
less
to
develop
as
a
Mormon
landlords
and
you
think
about
our
stock.
It's
all
bones
here,
a
lot
of
our
Class
eight
buildings,
40
50
years
old.
Some
are
older
and
in
our
class
be
spaces
even
older
than
that's
right
from
your
personal
experience.
Professional
experience
would
cost-effective
methods.
L
L
Clearly,
the
city,
the
mayor's
office,
the
VRA
and
the
council,
working
with
community
leaders,
kind
of
have
a
good
handle
on
the
new
stuff
coming
out
of
the
ground,
but
you
think
about
the
old
bones
here
in
Boston:
there's
a
lot
of
old
buildings
and
in
order
to
get
those
buildings
retrofitted.
That's
a
conversation
with
the
landlord
to
Matt's
point
on
the
incentives
and
the
tools
I'll
give
it
off
the
table.
Yet.
Are
there
any
immediate
to
cost-effective
ways
to
reduce
the
carbon
footprint?
Well,.
O
I
think
a
couple
things,
one
I
think
the
Birdo
does
quite
a
bit
for
the
larger
buildings.
What
we
find
is
that
people,
often
even
don't
realize
how
efficient
or
inefficient
their
buildings
are
until
they
compared
to
others
and
when
you
find
out
you're
consuming
twice
as
much
energy
as
your
neighbor
you're,
more
motivated
to
do
something.
O
H
I,
let's
say
that
you
know
programs
like
massive,
and
things
like
that
are
actually
have
done
a
tremendous
amount
to
help
finance.
You
know
things
like
putting
insulation
into
attics
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
utilizing
an
understanding.
Where
is
your
energy
like?
How
much
is
your
lighting
versus?
How
much
is
your
heating
and
that
sort
of
thing
is
really
important?
One
of
the
things
that
we
always
talk
about
first
with
our
client,
is
having
an
energy
budget.
H
Actually
is
a
much
smaller
percent
of
the
pie
now,
so
our
next
steps
isn't
focusing
on
lighting
our
next
steps
needs
to
be
focusing
on
those
heating
sources.
You
know
in
heating
systems
and
our
next
steps
need
to
be
focusing
on
than
the
envelope
and
those
types
of
things,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
the
simple
residential.
You
know
projects
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
other
types
of
systems
working
in
their
buildings.
Like
a
hospital.
Does
you.
P
Know
to
build
on
your
point
about
that.
The
energy
budget
people
aren't
aware,
but
even
as
as
good
as
mass
save
is
and
what
it's
done.
The
take-up
rate
on
these
energy
efficiency
programs
is
not
particularly
good,
even
with
all
the
subsidy
and
because
energy
is
such
a
small
part
of
the
budget.
Unless
you're
you
know
low
income,
it's
just
not
very
motivating,
so
some
cities
have
done
some
interesting
things
to
build
public
awareness.
P
Newcastle
Australia
strikes
me
is
that
in
their
downtown
they
have
a
huge
billboard
that
shows
on
time
energy
usage
and
they
have
divided
that
city
in
districts
that
they're
actually
competing
with
each
other
about
who
can
be
the
most
energy
efficient
district.
They
have
schools
where
the
education
programs
are
built
around
competing,
for
which
one
can
reduce
their
energy
consumption.
So
we've
got
a
long
ways
to
go
on
on
getting
people
to
buy
into
energy
efficiency,
even
when
it's
highly
subsidized
and.
H
H
That's
one
place
where
we're
actually
there,
the
city
of
Boston
is
working
to
teach
people,
but
also
even
in
the
Boston
Arts
Academy,
which
I'm
actually
happened
to
be
doing
that
project
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much
by
the
way
for
voting
for
it,
we
actually
are
working
with
them.
They
have
a
highly
advanced
steam
program
and
working
with
them
to
expose
systems
and
to
expose
even
the
wall
construction
and
to
teach
those
kids
to
have
a
different
relationship
with
energies.
H
So
they
know
how
the
systems
work
and
how
the
building's
work,
even
for
just
the
general
light
science
program,
not
necessarily
because
they're
going
to
go
into
the
building
sciences
or
anything
like
that,
but
just
because
we
all
live
in
buildings.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out
about
having
really
highly
efficient
buildings.
Is
that
they're
more
comfortable
I
mean
people,
don't
talk
about
that,
but
actually
having
these
better
envelopes
and
having
these
better
systems
means
that
your
air
quality
is
better
your
you
know.
H
The
thermal
performance
of
a
really
great
window
means
that
it's
not
drafty,
and
you
don't
have
you
know,
have
all
of
that
heat
gain
in
the
summertime.
You
know
have
all
that
draught
in
the
wintertime,
they're
more
comfortable
and
that
actually
reduces
stress
and
makes
people
feel
better.
It
definitely
improves
test
scores.
M
B
You
all
that
was
very
illuminating.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
do
want
to
be
respectful
of
everyone's
time.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
have
one
more
panel
of
some
terrific
advocates
who
I'd
like
to
invite
for
you:
can
clap
about
Barry
I'd
like
to
call
up
for
advocates
Carol
Oldham
from
the
Boston
Clean
Energy
Coalition,
Andy
crasner
from
mothers
out
front
Reverend,
Mary,
Amma,
white
Hammond
and
dr.
Brita
Lundberg.
B
B
Q
R
Q
Q
I
have
two
children
six-year-old
Jonah,
who
loves
Harry,
Potter
and
nine-year-old
Maya,
who
loves
to
bake
as
a
mother,
the
health
and
safety
of
Jonah
and
Maya,
and
their
future
well-being
are
always
on
my
mind,
I
make
sure
my
kids
wear
bicycle
helmets
and
eat
five
fruits
and
vegetables
a
day
and
every
day,
I
oversee
them
brush
and
floss
their
teeth.
I,
don't
know
about
those
of
you
with
kids,
but
getting
kids
teeth.
Brush
is
a
tedious
task.
Q
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
are
tired
and
cranky,
and
we
huddle
in
the
bathroom
to
brush.
Inevitably,
my
kids
complain,
but
I
remind
them
that
their
effort
prevents
them
from
getting
fillings.
Having
a
tooth
drilled
is
not
only
physically
uncomfortable
for
them.
It
also
is
an
expensive
prospect
for
me
for
the
price
of
some
toothbrushes
and
a
couple
of
minutes
a
night.
We
can
ensure
healthy
smile
for
years
to
come.
Q
Now,
with
more
on
the
docket,
we
can't
afford
to
build
these
buildings
with
the
intention
of
retrofitting
them
down
the
road.
We
don't
have
the
time
climate
change
is
already
upon
us.
Each
day
we
choose
not
to
act
to
reduce
our
carbon
footprint
in
buildings.
We
are
borrowing
against
Jonah
and
Maya's
future,
the
future
of
all
Boston's
kids.
The
time
for
action
is
now
protect
our
kids
future.
Thank
you.
Thank.
R
You
to
the
Net
Zero
Carbon
panel
for
hearing
this
testimony.
Let
me
introduce
myself
dr.
Breda
lunberg
infectious
diseases,
physician
member
of
the
occupational
environmental
health
committee
at
the
Massachusetts
Medical
Society
board,
member
of
Green
Newton,
and
a
member
of
mass
health
professionals
for
clean
energy.
I
would
like
to
emphasize
three
reasons
that
the
city
of
Boston
should
consider
developing
in
that
zero
carbon
policy.
First,
there's
a
strong
public
health
argument:
new
construction
relies
heavily
on
natural
gas
for
heating
and
cooking.
R
This
is
a
problem
because
natural
gas
creates
public
health
concerns
from
the
point
of
extraction
at
the
drill
rig
all
the
way
to
the
gas
leaks
in
our
streets
to
where
it
is
burned
in
stoves
and
furnaces
in
our
homes.
Over
900,
peer-reviewed
medical
studies
have
demonstrated
the
serious
health
effects
surrounding
natural
gas
infrastructure
do
most
likely
to
the
substances
introduced
into
the
gas
during
extraction.
R
Benzene
and
formaldehyde
cause
leukemia
and
other
cancers,
particulate
matter
as
lung
diseases,
heart
attack
and
stroke.
Mercury
leads
to
miscarriage
premature
birth
and
neurologic
disorders.
Gas
leaks
and
intentional
releases
of
gas
also
release
ozone,
a
pollutant
that
can
reduce
lung
function
and
worsen,
bronchitis,
emphysema
and
asthma.
R
Childhood
asthma,
according
according
to
many
peer-reviewed
medical
studies,
is
linked
to
living
in
a
home
that
uses
natural
gas
to
cook,
with
gas
burning
stoves
release
many
of
the
same
carcinogens
that
are
found
near
compressor
stations
and
drill
rigs,
benzene,
styrene
formaldehyde,
as
well
as
PM
25,
which
are
microscopic
particles
that
cause
respiratory
disease
and
cancer
in
humans.
Third
methane
is
a
potent
heat-trapping
gas
that
contributes
substantially
to
climate
change
when
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
any
source,
gas
leaks,
power
plants
and
motor
vehicles
are
reduced
or
avoided.
R
We
experience
immediate
health
benefits
right
here
in
Massachusetts
because
of
lower
levels
of
particles
in
the
air
that
originate
from
fossil
fuel
combustion.
For
these
three
reasons,
buildings
need
to
eliminate
gas
and
we
need
to
move
away
from
natural
gas
infrastructure
and
new
construction,
because
we
know
it
harms
human
health.
We
at
Massachusetts
health
professionals
for
clean
energy
consider
advocating
for
cleaner
air
and
a
response
to
climate
change
to
be
part
of
our
professional
responsibilities
as
healthcare
providers
as
a
meta
as
a
mechanism
to
help
mitigate
the
negative
health
impacts
of
fossil
fuels.
R
B
J
Thank
you
come
slow
Molly
for
holding
this
hearing
and
thank
you
for
all
the
counselors
that
are
here.
My
name
is
Wilhelmina
Beaumont
judo
I
am
the
clean
energy
program
manager
for
the
Massachusetts
Climate
Action
Network
I
am
here
to
represent
emkin,
which
helps
chapters
and
cities
implement
climate
friendly
policies
and
projects
like
Net,
Zero,
planning
and
I
am
representing
the
Boston
clean
energy
coalition,
of
which
emkin
is
a
member.
J
The
Boston
Clean
Energy
Coalition
is
a
group
of
organizations
focus
on
helping
Boston
move
from
dirty
energy
to
clean
energy
through
grassroots,
organizing
and
community
engagement.
As
we
all
know,
right
now,
Boston
is
going
through
a
building
boom
with
65
million
square
feet.
Proposed
plans
are
permitted.
Much
of
this
building
is
housing
which
we
need,
but
unfortunately,
due
to
minimal
guidance
around
climate
issues,
many
of
the
developers
default
to
running
the
systems
for
these
buildings
with
natural
gas.
J
This
is
in
direct
opposition
to
the
commitments
that
William
mayor
Walsh
and
the
City
Council
have
made
for
our
community,
including
our
carbon
free
by
2050
commitment
that
the
mayor
signed
the
65
million
square
feet
of
buildings
being
planned
in
built
today
will
last
50
years
or
more
way
past
our
2050
deadline
of
being
carbon
neutral.
I
would
like
to
speak
briefly
to
why
the
city
of
Boston
needs
a
net
zero
planning
process.
Right
now
the
city
has
at
least
13
desperate
planning
processes
that
do
not
work
with
each
other.
J
While
we
applaud
the
desire
to
plan
for
a
climate
friendly
city
coordination
is
currently
supplementally
and
not
built
into
the
system.
Carbon
free
Boston
is
a
good
idea
that
has
been
delayed.
In
addition,
it
is
my
understanding
that
there
is
no
explicit
portion
of
the
process.
That
is
a
lot,
including
the
public
and
hearing
what
the
community
wants
to
see
by
the
time.
Plans
are
completed
and
integrated
at
this
point,
which
may
be
as
late
as
2020
over
450
new
buildings
would
have
been
built.
J
Those
buildings
we
need
to
be
immediately
retrofitted
to
meet
our
2050
goals.
The
doesn't
make
any
sense.
What
is
needed
right
now
is
a
bold
and
more
immediate
plan
that
focuses
on
the
built
environment,
which,
as
we
know,
is
responsible
for
between
50
and
80
percent
of
Boston's
climate
change
causing
emissions.
We
need
to
launch
a
planning
process
now
that
influences
how
buildings
are
built
today
by
making
them
all-electric,
and
we
need
to
do
this
while
the
carbon
free
Boston
study
is
going
on.
J
G
S
Afternoon
my
name
is
Reverend
Maruyama
white
Hammond
I'm,
a
minister
at
the
Bethel
AME
Church
in
Jamaica
Plain,
and
also
a
member
of
the
green
justice
coalition,
a
coalition
of
predominant
people
of
color
led
environmental
justice
organizations.
So
I
want
to
start
by
celebrating
that
there
are
many
things
to
be
proud
of
here
in
Boston
we
are
a
leader
within
the
country
and
I
want
to
be
thankful
for
the
work
that
the
Department
of
Environment
energy
and
open
space
is
doing,
and
also
very
much
for
the
work
of
dr.
Tiye.
S
Martin
who's
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
to
help
people
not
just
think
about
mitigating
climate
change
but
beginning
to
be
more
adaptive
and
resilient
to
the
climate
future.
So
I
want
to
celebrate
the
work,
that's
being
done
to
encourage
people
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
I
want
to
suggest
that
encouragement
may
not
be
quite
enough.
S
Decades
ago
we
thought
we
were
doing
the
best
job.
We
did
not
know,
and
we
came
to
a
point
now
where
we
realized
that
we
are
really
mortgaging
the
future
of
our
young
people
every
bit
of
energy
that
we
use
right
now.
It's
not
the
allotment
that
God
gave
us
we're
stealing
from
our
grandchildren,
hummin
future
generations
and
then
leaving
the
bill
to
them
and
asking
them
to
take
responsibility
because
we
haven't
taken
responsibility
ourselves.
A
few
weeks
ago,
I
had
the
opportunity.
S
I
was
on
the
honorary
host
committee
for
green,
build,
which
we
recently
hosted
brought
the
sort
of
best
minds
in
green
technology
from
all
around
the
world,
and
I
happened
to
be
at
a
table
with
a
gentleman
from
California
who
sits
on
the
equivalent
of
our
EEE
ACR
energy,
environment,
energy
efficiency,
Advisory
Council,
which
I'm
very
sad
to
see
that
Boston
has
abdicated
its
seat
on
that
council
to
some
other
municipality
and
I.
Wonder
if
we're
trying
to
be
the
leaders,
why
would
we
step
down
from
a
state
council?
That's
looking
at
energy
efficiency,
but.
S
But
I
think
you
know
I
asked
him.
You
know,
I
knew
that
recently,
California
has
taken
the
first
place
away
from
us,
and
we
have
that
back
and
forth
often,
and
he
told
me
that
the
way
they've
moved
forward
is
that
they
don't
wait
on
the
market.
They
shape
the
market
and
that
councils
at
both
the
city
and
state
level,
have
the
opportunity
to
tell
people.
This
is
where
we're
going.
S
Those
same
buildings
will
rely
on
police
and
fire
and
water
services,
and
all
of
those
things
that
that
the
city
helps
to
provide
and
if
we
want
them
to
be
in
line
I,
think
we
have
to
send
a
signal
of
what
it
is
that
we
expect
from
them
and
I
think.
We
all
know
that
this
is
really
a
justice
issue
that
we
as
a
city
are
really
vulnerable.
S
The
fourth
most
vulnerable
city
in
the
country
and
recently
I
or
earlier
this
year,
was
at
a
meeting
of
the
green
ribbon
Commission,
where
we
were
getting
a
presentation
from
UMass
Boston.
We
were
sitting
on
the
eighth
floor
of
a
building
in
the
inundation
district
is,
which
is
what
I
I
call
it
at
this
point,
because
I
think
we
need
to
recognize
what
its
future
is
and
we're
getting
a
PowerPoint
presentation
in
which
we
watch
that
district
become
flooded
and
we're
told
that
that
was
going
to
happen
monthly
by
his
early
as
2060.
S
S
That's
the
kind
of
future
that
we're
handing
over
to
our
children
and
telling
them
that
you
should
figure
it
out
down
the
line.
The
reality
is
that,
right
now,
Boston
is
at
a
crossroads
everywhere.
I
turn
everything
that
used
to
be
an
empty
lot
or
a
small
house
is
being
turned
in
to
fancy
condos.
It
was
hard
and
sad
for
me
every
Halloween
I
hand
out
candy
with
my
next-door
neighbors.
S
For
so
many
of
us
who
have
called
this
place
home
for
decades
for
generations
at
times
and
so
for
those
same
buildings
to
put
pressure
on
the
planet
that
might
force
us
to
leave
this
very
city,
because
it's
not
sustainable
climate,
wise
just
doesn't
make
sense.
If
we
are
gonna
build
all
over
the
city
as
we
currently
are,
then
everything
we
add
to
this
city
should
reduce
the
pressure
that
we
feel
and
the
reality
that
we
face
as
climate
change
becomes
more
and
more
a
reality
of
life.
S
This
is
our
opportunity
and
if
we
wait
10
and
20
years
from
now,
I
don't
know
about
where
you
live,
but
there's
almost
no
parcels
left
in
our
neighborhood
already,
and
so
we've
got
to
move
now
before
we're
celebrating
the
one
to
two
buildings
that
are
green
and
we're
retrofitting
the
thousands
of
buildings
we've
already
put
up.
I
know
it
will
be
tough,
but
my
mother
always
used
to
say
when
we
when
she
gave
us
a
chore,
we
didn't
want
to
do
where
there's
a
will.
S
B
You
Reverend,
it's
very
inspiring
an
impactful
message.
All
of
you
thank
you
and
thank
you
again.
This
was
another
phenomenal
panel.
I,
don't
have
any
questions
per
se
other
than
to
say
you
were
incredibly
impactful
with
all
of
your
statements
and
your
expertise,
and
the
takeaways
I
have
again
is
that
this
is
impacting
obviously
our
kids,
our
grandkids,
the
public
health
piece.
B
The
fact
that
we
do
have
so
many
different
sort
of
cooks
chefs
in
the
kitchen,
where
we
need
to
streamline
and
obviously
the
urgency
is
now
many
of
you
were
and
I've
repeated
this
several
times
because
it
was
so
impactful
at
our
Community
Choice
Energy
hearing.
It
just
so
happened
that
three
consecutive
folks
who
testified
in
public
hearing
one
was
from
Houston
that
family
used
and
the
other
from
Puerto
Rico
the
other
from
the
Caribbean
and
had
all
referenced
in
passing.
B
We
didn't
design
this,
but
they
were
all
their
families
were
impacted
by
these
once
in
a
500
year,
storms,
three
of
which
occurred
in
a
months
period.
So
this
no
longer
when
we
talk
about
the
impact
it's
happening
now,
it
has
happened
already.
So
the
urgency
is
is,
is
we
need
to
take
into
account?
We
need
to
act
now.
So
thank
you
all
I,
don't
any
questions!
Councillor!
Flaherty!
Okay!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
All
very
much
really
really
appreciate
it.
B
Okay,
so
I
have
a
number
of
I.
Think
I
have
four
five
six
pages
of
public
testimony.
Most
folks
have
not
indicated
have
indicated.
They
would
not
like
to
testify
so
I'm
going
to
call
you
down
are
actually
not
down.
This
will
be
the
first
time
using
or
for
me
there
are
two
singular
mics.
There's
one
to
the
left,
one
to
the
right,
I
believe
there's
a
laptop
on
that
one,
but
they
should
be.
Thank
you,
Michael
Ron.
Those
are
both
good
to
go
right.
B
T
B
T
Peter
Popish
50-year
resident
of
Boston,
currently
the
chair
of
the
Boston
society
of
Architects
sustainability,
education
committee
I,
would
recommend,
after
all,
these
valuable
bits
of
information
that
we
have
heard
here,
that
the
City
Council
consider
the
ordinance
to
be
named.
Ned
zero-emissions
coordinates
because
all
the
buildings
that
are
being
built
rely
on
external
power
being
provided
currently
or
until
the
change
of
the
millennium.
T
The
future,
as
you
have
heard,
is
in
electric
and
all-electric
buildings
which
can
be
employed
today
they
are
going
to
be
cheaper.
This
is
a
win-win
situation.
They're
going
to
be
cheaper
for
the
developer
to
build,
as
well
as
for
the
buyer
of
the
building's
it.
There
is,
of
course,
at
this
moment,
a
gap
in
the
terms
of
the
cost
of
electricity
versus
gas.
T
However,
if
we
build,
as
you
have
heard,
towards
the
future
and
look
towards
the
future
for
all-electric
buildings,
they
can
be
implemented
today
and
at
lower
cost
than
the
buildings
that
have
to
rely
on
fossil
fuels.
If
the
ordinance
itself
is
draws
attention
to
this,
it
will
actually
help
everybody
in
terms
of
the
architects,
the
developers,
the
buyers
all
being
aware
that
this
is
the
future
okay
in
part,
it
is
already
here
and
we
can
implement
it,
I'm
going
to
go.
B
A
U
I
think
we
need
to
tell
people
that
they
have
to
build
their
buildings
for
all
electric
and
that
can
be
specified.
It's
not
a
well.
The
city
can't
dictate
this.
It
dictates
a
whole
bunch
of
things
and
that's
really
the
way
that
it
the
only
way
it's
going
to
get
done,
the
incentive
to
then
be
energy
efficient
will
come
because
the
cost
of
electricity
will
eat
them
up.
Otherwise,
when
I
first
bought
a
condo,
I
didn't
buy
a
condo
with
electric
heat.
This
is
back
in
the
1970s
simply
because
of
the
cost
of
operating.
U
That
kind
of
building.
That's
changed
a
whole
lot.
Now
some
of
the
technology
has
been
around
for
a
long
time,
just
gotten
better
and
better
I
was
telling
he
pumps
35
40
years
ago.
So
that's
not
a
new
idea.
It
just
gets
better
yeah,
but
I
think
that
we
have
to
make
people
do
it,
and
our
regulation
system
doesn't
always
keep
up.
The
idea
of
article
37
was
great
and
the
and
the
first
grab
at
it
is
great.
B
That
Lee,
thank
you
very
much.
Excuse
me
appreciate
that
Eliot.
Thank
you
very,
very
much.
Thank
you.
Lee
Humphries
is
next
followed
by
and
well
Andy
testify
on
the
panel
I.
Don't
believe
she
wants
to
testify
again:
you're
good
and
Ellen
watts
and
I
just
Lee.
It's
your
Iran,
perfect
timing.
You're
up
to
testify,
Lee
it
perfect.
Okay,
all
right
so
good,
moving
right
along
Ellen
watts
is
next
followed
by
Carol
Oldman.
B
V
You
for
Mellie,
my
name
is
Ellen
watts.
I
am
the
president
and
co-founder
of
our
Katara
Inc
an
architecture
and
planning
firm
here
in
Boston,
I
lived
in
Boston
for
17
years,
I
now,
AM,
a
small
business
owner
and
work
in
the
innovation
district
I
was
also
a
co-chair
of
this
report,
which
I
hope
may
look
somewhat
familiar
to
you.
Although
it's
nine
years
old
now
it's
called
getting
to
zero.
V
It
was
a
task
force
report
done
with
60
of
us
working
under
the
direction
of
Governor
Patrick
Duvall,
to
set
forth
some
strategies
for
achieving
that
zero
statewide
nine
years
ago,
I
would
agree
with
the
minister
who
just
sat
here.
That
encouragement
is
great.
We
can
celebrate
how
far
we've
come,
but
we
may
need
more
than
encouragement,
I'd
like
just
quickly
to
say
five
things
that
have
occurred
to
me
and
I'd
like
to
follow
up
with
a
longer
letter
to
you
of.
V
Is
a
thing
that's
frequently
said
to
us
by
our
clients
who
are
CEOs,
who
are
the
presidents
of
colleges
and
universities
won't
lead?
Take
care
of
this,
it
is
important
to
understand.
Lead
is
a
rating
system
that
allows
a
lot
of
discretion
on
the
part
of
the
owner
and
the
design
team.
So
you
can
pick
your
points.
The
energy
threshold
is
a
mirror
used
to
be
ten
percent
better
than
code
and
now
not
even
as
good
as
our
state
building
code.
So,
yes,
you
can
make
a
building.
A
V
V
We
have
built
a
portfolio,
and
many
of
the
architects
who
were
representing
in
testimony
here
today
have
shown
that,
with
a
conventional
budget
for
a
school
for
an
office
building
for
a
laboratory,
even
you
can
build
a
net
zero
building
and
we
would
encourage
a
database
of
those
examples
to
be
known
as
well
as
their
reduction
in
operating
costs,
so
same
first
cost
and
reduction
in
operating
costs,
making
it
a
very
wise
financial
decision.
Next
is
the
objection
that
regulation
is
not
necessary.
V
Some
say
because
you
can
always
go
beyond
what
the
code
requires
well,
but
the
code
protects
us
from
all
kinds
of
hazards
from
tripping
to
death
by
fire
to
a
fixation
by
chemical
fumes.
The
general
public
expects
that
it
will
protect
us
visa
vie
climate
and
it
is
not
satisfactory
right
now.
Furthermore,
if
you
had
cancer,
would
you
really,
like
your
doctor
to
say,
go,
take
an
aspirin.
You
can
always
do
more
if
you
want,
but
for
now,
let's
just
take
an
aspirin
I
believe
we
need
a
precautionary
approach
to
the
environment.
V
Fourth,
I'd
like
to
say
one
of
the
things
that's
important
to
underscore
about
this
study.
It
was
a
equip.
There
are
no
such
things
as
Net
Zero
buildings.
There
are
only
Net
Zero
operators,
training
and
education
is
really
important
for
facilities.
People
as
well,
they
well
as
well
as
the
owners
of
these
buildings,
identical
building
studies
have
shown
can
operate
in
a
four
full
different
manner.
Even
if
they're
designed
exactly
the
same
and
could
be
not
zero,
they
can
be
operated
differently.
V
B
W
W
B
X
I'm
Jack
rig
I'm
a
resident
Back
Bay
since
1998
I
came
to
speak
about
the
citizens
who
live
in
the
city
and
the
infrastructure
needed
to
support
those
that
wish
to
do
that,
and
we
want
to
encourage.
We
never
plan
to
fail,
but
we
often
fail
to
plan.
One
of
the
unsexy
parts
about
electric
vehicles
happens
to
be
oak
governance
and
oversight.
We
are
looking
at
a
situation
that
we
hope
in
the
future
will
see
tens
of
thousands
of
electric
vehicles
owned
by
residents
living
in
the
city.
X
There
are
many
many
garage
orphans
of
those
cars
to
that
park
in
the
street
and
we
will
have
to
provide
a
system
or
a
network
charging
systems,
both
conductive
and
inductive,
to
those
vehicles
that
are
owned
by
residents
who
live
in
the
city.
To
many
of
the
plans
currently
favored.
Only
those
that
commute
into
the
city
or
visit
the
city
and
the
public
good
is
not
represented
for
residents
who
live
in
the
city,
in
fact
they're
handicapped.
X
I
would
invite
the
council
and
any
of
those
organizations
statewide
to
give
due
consideration
to
the
coordination
between
not
only
the
city
departments,
but
the
state
departments
such
as
the
DMV,
which
would
be
key
to
gathering
information
from
the
distribution
and
the
placement
and
location
of
electric
vehicle
users
and
be
able
to
track
the
ten
percent
or
so
of
electric
vehicles,
which
will
be
conversions
from
gas
powered
vehicles
as
they
experimental
vehicle.
That
is
still
subject
to
safety
inspection,
at
least
on
an
annual
basis.
X
Again,
if
we
fail
to
provide
the
rules
and
the
guidance-
and
we
let
this
just
develop
wildly,
it
is
all
too
often
that
we
don't
bother
to
have
the
rules
put
in
place
for
enforcement
or
for
transparency
or
accountability
or
metrics
for
dashboards,
for
effective
presentation
and
delivery
of
services
to
the
public
until
after
something
has
grossly
gone
wrong.
Let's
not
let
somebody
get
hurt
or
killed
before
we
decide
to
plan
and
put
the
rules
in
place
for
welcoming
this,
our
network
of
support
to
our
residents
of
the
city.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
Y
You
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor,
for
holding
this
hearing.
It's
been
very
very
enlightening.
I
believe
that
we
cannot
get
to
carbon
zero
if
we
don't
break
free
of
our
dependency
on
carbon
fuels
across
this
country.
People
are
rising
up
opposing
the
further
development
of
infrastructure
in
support
of
carbon
fuels,
gas
pipelines
and
oil
pipelines
across
the
country
are
being
stood
up
against
because
there's
no
future.
If
we
continue
that
dependency,
the
burning
of
fossil
fuels
has
caused
global
warming.
Y
We
know
that
and
it
will
continue
to
do
so,
a
dangerously
accelerating
rates,
unless
we
say
no
to
carbon
fuels
and
before
the
City
Council
is
an
opportunity.
I
believe
to
do
so.
Many
of
us
believe
that
it's
a
moral
imperative
that
we
encourage
the
city
of
Boston
to
not
allow
any
more
new
buildings
to
go
up
that
are
going
to
burn
carbon
fuels.
Y
Y
Perhaps
we
should
let
them
let
them
absorb
some
of
the
costs
as
a
condition
for
building
in
this
wonderful
city,
that's
committed
to
reducing
greenhouse
gases.
Let
them
absorb
some
of
those
costs
as
a
price
for
doing
business
in
this
city
and
for
helping
the
clean
energy
sector
develop.
And
finally,
let
them
absorb
some
of
those
costs
as
an
emblem
that
they
too
care
about
the
planet
and
not
just
about
short-term
profits.
Y
The
developers
supported
by
the
fossil
fuel
industry
will
make
the
argument
that
clean
energy
is
prohibitively
expensive.
They
offer,
however,
no
analysis
of
that
assertion.
Moreover,
their
assertion
ignores
several
important
considerations
having
to
do
with
costs.
First,
as
the
clean
energy
sector
responds
to
new
demand,
as
it
develops
new
technologies,
which
we
heard
about
today
and
as
it
and
as
it
begins
to
compete,
new
energy
sources
will
be
developed
and
prices
can
reasonably
be
expected
to
decline.
Y
Second,
the
multimillionaires
to
whom
the
developers
are
marketing
their
luxury
housing
can
likely
afford
to
pay
a
bit
more
for
clean
energy
until
the
price
stabilizes
and
comes
down.
Third,
the
assertion
about
clean
energy
costs
being
too
high
steps
completely
around
the
intensively
high
costs
of
dirty
energy
to
life
and
property,
see
sandy
Harvey,
Irma
and
Maria.
Y
Those
hurricanes
are
generally
recognized
as
having
been
made
more
destructive
by
global
warming,
which,
in
turn,
is
worsened
by
greenhouse
gases.
I
encourage
the
City
Council
to
help
the
developers
and
the
people
in
the
fossil
fuel
industry
toward
their
better
selves
by
requiring
them
to
be
part
of
the
transformation
of
the
world
from
fossil
fuels
to
clean
energy
somewhere
in
government.
Y
B
Z
Z
Z
B
G
B
B
N
All
of
that
is
because
somebody
used
lead
in
their
paint
right
and
they
didn't
pay
for
that
cost.
So
this
way
we're
just
kind
of
passing
on
the
cost
to
the
future,
and
this
one
would
be
unbearable
for
the
next
coming
generation.
So
we
should
be
completely
conscious
of
that
and
in
terms
of
doing
development,
we
can't
avoid
doing
development,
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
development,
but
it
should
be
done
without
the
destruction
of
the
future,
which
means
we
need
to
do
sustainable
development
and
carbon
3.
N
Boston
is
a
great
initiative
and
Net
Zero
will
be
a
critical
part
of
that.
I
have
studied
a
little
bit
of
the
climate
change
checklist
because
I
live
in
East,
Boston
I'm,
watching
the
waterfront
development
going
on
and
a
lot
of
these
buildings
have
been
permitted
already
and
they
do
according
to
whatever
the
permit
allowed
at
the
time
of
the
permit.
N
However,
there
is
a
checklist
that,
as
developed,
which
has
which
makes
you
think
it
actually
does
make
you
think
when
you
go
through
the
checklist,
it
makes
you
think
how
prepared
you
are
to
face
all
the
threats
that
you're
going
to
face
as
a
waterfront
development,
in
terms
of
both
stormwater
and
sea
level
rise
and
urban
heat
island
effect.
All
that,
but
it
does
not
make
you
commit
to
any
action
that
you
are
taking
in
terms
of
those
threats.
N
It
asks
you
to
make
a
list
of
things
that
you
are
doing,
and
so
you
may
list
a
few
things
and
then
that's
where
that
ends,
whether
you
actually
do
it
now
nobody's
going
to
hold
you
accountable
for
that.
So
in
that
sense
the
checklist
is
toothless
and
for
us
to
actually
have
some
teeth,
it
needs
to
be
played.
N
May
made
part
of
the
requirement
and
that's
what
that's
where
the
point
about
cancer-
and
it
wouldn't
be
named
nice
of
the
doctor
to
say,
take
an
aspirin
and
you
can
always
do
more
that
that
doesn't
work.
So
we
need
to
bring
it
into
the
code
to
say
this
is
what
is
required
for
us
to
have
a
sustainable
development
Thank.
You
very
thank.
G
Sir
hi,
my
name
is
Dan
Bailey
I'm,
also
a
resident
of
East
Boston
I
want
to
thank
you
for
holding
the
hearing.
I
was
thrilled
to
see
the
carbon-free
Boston
initiative
announced
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
crucial
step
and
the
time
for
action
is
now
it's
easy
to
make
commitments
about
our
carbon
future.
It's
it's
tough
to
take
action
and
I
think
this
will
be
an
important
step
in
that
direction.
G
And
when
you
do
that
kind
of
analysis,
you
tend
to
find
that
even
a
new
green
building
can
take
between
10
and
80
years
just
to
make
up
for
the
carbon
emissions
associated
with
constructing
the
building
and
I
found
in
my
own
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it's
true
across
the
city
that
was
the
current
wave
of
building.
G
We
tend
to
be
demolishing
and
replacing
buildings
at
kind
of
an
alarming
rate
and
I
think
I
know
in
many
cases
unnecessarily
so
so
I'd
like
to
urge
the
council
to
consider
buildings
from
a
lifecycle
analysis
perspective
and
to
recognize
that
there
is
one
of
the
ways
to
limit
carbon
emissions
is
to
encourage
the
reuse
of
buildings.
So
we
tend
to
focus
a
lot
on
on
reducing
residential
waste
and
recycling
cans
and
bottles.
I
think
it's
time
that
we
also
started
thinking
about
recycling
buildings.
G
G
B
B
We
had
some
trepidation
holding
the
hearing
now,
because
it's
the
last
tomorrow's
Wednesday
is
the
last
council
meeting,
but
there
was
a
big
council
lunch
and
earlier
there's
a
lot
going
on,
but
the
fact
that
we
had
seven
councillors
and
two
councillors
electro
and
thank
you
for
the
advocates
for
making
that
happen.
That
shows
how
important
this
issue
is
to
all
of
us.
I
am
going
to
conclude
the
hearing
presently
and
then
in
the
new
year
we
will
start
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
procedure
will
be.
B
It
may
be
a
hearing
and
order
again
it
may
be
more
of
a
less
formalized
working
session,
which
actually
I
prefer
for
talking
about
issues
like
this,
but
rest
assured,
you
have
my
commitment,
obviously
working
with
the
BCE
seeing
so
many
great
advocates.
We're
gonna
continue
this
we
are
closer
to
2050
than
we
are
than
we
were
to
1983
and
most
of
us
remember,
1983,
and
it
doesn't
seem
that
long
ago.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
I.
B
Think,
as
I
said,
there
were
two
sort
of
most
important
takeaways
from
this
or
three
takeaways
one.
We
know
what
has
been
done
to
great
success
in
other
cities
and
that's
some
of
those
things
we
should
be
emulating,
particularly
in
California,
particularly
in
Vancouver,
particularly
in
Denver
and
some
other
cities.
B
Secondly,
we
have
a
lot
of
good
people,
well-intentioned
people,
doing
good
work
at
the
city
level,
who
want
to
make
sure,
there's
a
better
streamlined
process
and
a
better
oversight
and
really
a
master
print
going
forward
or
sort
of
a
master
plan
going
forward,
and
then
thirdly,
we
do
not
have
the
luxury
of
time
full
stop.
We
have
to
act
now
we
have
to
really
the
conversation
should
be
over
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
B
We
need
to
invest
in
renewable
interest:
renewable
energy
infrastructure,
not
the
same
old
fossilized
fuels,
because
we
will
never
get
out
of
this
mess.
So
we
have
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
I
know
I've
got
the
best
team
to
get
it
done
so
for
now
and
2017.
This
hearing
is
adjourned,
look
forward
to
getting
back
to
work
in
2018
Happy,
Holidays,
Happy,
New
Year's,
everybody.