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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on December 10, 2020
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Docket #1100 - Ordinance to ensure gender inclusivity on City forms
A
A
I
am
lydia
edwards,
I'm
chair
of
the
government
ops
committee
here
at
boston
city
council,
it's
thursday
december
10
2020,
and
we're
here
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
1100,
an
ordinance
to
ensure
gender
inclusivity
on
city
form
councillors.
Michelle
wu
and
liz
braden
are
the
lead
sponsors
co-sponsors
of
this
proposal,
and
it
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
november
18
2020.,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
executive
order.
We
are
hosting
this
hit
hearing
on
zoom.
A
This
allows
us
to
do
our
jobs
but
at
the
same
time,
balance
the
public
safety
needs
and
concerns
of
the
moment
the
public
may
watch
this
meeting
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
council
dash
tv.
It
will
be
also
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date
on
xfinity
eight
slash,
rcn82,
slash,
verizon
1964.
for
public
testimony.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
A
In
short,
this
proposal
will
require
all
city
forms
documents
and
certificates
to
have
a
gender
or
sex
designation
to
include
a
non-binary
gender
identification
option
to
be
marked
as
x.
The
proposal
includes
a
provision
requiring
that
forms
reflect
gender
inclusion
and
inclusion
of
all
family
structures.
The
proposal
also
requires
the
office
of
intergovernmental
relations
to
prepare
a
report
for
the
city
council
within
60
days
of
passage
of
this
proposal
that
lists
all
city
forms
and
documents
that
require
a
gender
or
sex
designation,
whether
the
form
has
a
gender,
neutral
designation
option
and,
if
applicable,
applicable.
A
Excuse
me
whether
binary
gender
designation
is
required
by
city,
state
or
federal
law.
Participating
today
on
behalf
of
the
administration
is
patrick
vandal
gundell,
the
mayor's
lgbtq
liaison
and
I'm
going
to
get
a
list
of
other
participants
before
I
have
them
announce
who's.
Here
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
announce
an
order
of
arrival.
My
colleagues
who
have
joined
us
today,
along
with
the
lead
sponsors,
counselor,
wu
and
counselor
braden.
We
also
have
counselor
flynn
and
counselor
janie
and
counselor
mejia.
Did
I
miss
anybody?
A
I
think
I
oh
counselor
arroyo
also
is
available
as
well.
Did
I
miss
anybody,
hopefully
not
so
with
that.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
allowed
my
colleagues
to
have
some
brief
opening
remarks.
I
do
and
after
your
remarks
I'll
read
a
letter
into
the
record
from
counselor
campbell
and
then
announce
who's
here,
also
to
speak
in
the
in
in
today's
hearing
so
I'll.
Let
the
lead
sponsors
lead
councillor
wu,
then
councillor
braden.
B
B
Boston
has
a
legacy
of
being
a
leading
city
in
so
many
ways
when
it
comes
to
human
rights
and
civil
rights,
and
we
had
ordinance
around
public
accommodations
protections
a
decade
before
the
state
finally
acted
on
statewide
legislation
and
so
time
and
again
we've
stood
up,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
big
sweeping
changes.
Now
today's
ordinance
is
on
something
that
really
gets
us
down
to
the
interactions
between
every
single
person
and
their
government
right.
B
So
we
need
both
the
legislation
on
the
books,
but
we
also
need
every
single
piece
of
paper
every
license:
every
form:
every
document,
every
confirmation
of
identity
to
really
reflect
our
constituents
and
our
residents
identities.
So
today
we're
talking
about
city
forms
and
the
need
to
be
inclusive
and
have
gender
neutral
options
on
our
forms.
B
Thank
you
especially
to
dom
for
surfacing
this
issue
and
making
sure
that
their
experience
in
city
hall,
which
you'll
hear
about
later,
would
pave
the
way
for
everyone's
experience
to
be
affirming
celebratory
and
the
welcoming
experience
that
that
we
expect
from
our
city
leadership.
So
I'm
very
grateful
to
councillor
braden
for
partnering
on
this,
for
so
many
advocacy
groups
for
always
taking
the
lead
and
making
sure
boston
is
doing
the
right
thing,
and
thank
you
so
much
to
all
the
colleagues
who
are
joining
us
today
as
well.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
I
think
this
is
really
important
work
and
I'm
I'm
really
encouraged
by
the
speed
with
which,
with
which
this
is
moving
forward,
and
I
really
want
to
thank
the
advocates
who
have
come
in
this
afternoon,
dom
and
trey,
andre
and
tanya,
and
our
city
colleagues
at
the
council
college
and
and
the
administration
for
joining
in
the
conversation
this
afternoon,
and
I
look
forward
to
an
ordinance
that
will
be
implemented
quickly
to
ensure
more
equitable
and
inclusive
city
for
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor,
edwards,
for
sharing
this
important
hearing.
Thank
you,
council,
wu
and
councillor
braden
for
filing
this
and
for
your
important
work
on
civil
and
human
rights
issues.
This
is
a
simple
act
that
we
can
do
to
ensure
that
everyone
feels
welcomed
and
accepted
in
our
city.
E
F
Madam
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
makers
for
filing
this.
Surprisingly
enough,
I
don't
have
much
to
say
other
than
it's
about
time
and
I'm
happy
to
see
that
we're
having
this
conversation.
More
importantly,
that
we're
going
to
do
some
things
about
it.
I
haven't
devoted
my
entire
life
to
working
with
young
people
and
working
with
youth.
F
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
makers
for
this.
You
know
as
we
head
into
the
the
new
year.
I
think
it's
fantastic,
that
we're
looking
at
ways
to
make
sure
that
our
government
and
our
government
forms
better
reflect
the
people
who
we
are
servicing,
and
so,
when
it
comes
to
gender
inclusivity,
this
is
one
of
those
ideas
that
is,
it
seems
so
simple,
but
it
makes
such
a
big
impact
on
people's
lives,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
quickly
we
can
implement
this
and
get
this
done.
H
H
This
is
really
important
as
we
seek
inclusivity
and
make
sure
that
we
truly
have
a
city
that
is
equitable
for
everyone.
It's
kind
of
shocking
that
we
don't
already
have
this
on
our
form.
So
I'm
just
grateful
that
again,
it's
moving
forward
to
the
makers
for
bringing
it
forward
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
will
get
it
done.
Thank
you.
A
I'm
beyond
excited
about
this
conversation,
I
think
it's
that's
that's
why
we
had
the
quick
turnaround
to
have
this
hearing
and
to
hopefully
see
if
we
can
get
something
done
even
this
year,
we
want
to
get
it
done
right.
We've
been
doing,
apparently
it
wrong
for
so
many
years.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
to
write
somewhat
the
course
and
to
make
sure
that
people
feel
themed
and
valued
by
the
government
that
is
supposed
to
represent
them.
A
I
just
will
now
read
into
the
record
counselor
campbell's
letter,
dear
chairwoman,
edward
and
colleagues
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
I
regretfully
cannot
attend
today's
hearing
on
docket
1100
for
an
ordinance
to
ensure
gender
inclusivity
on
gender
forms.
Thank
you,
counselors
ruined
braden,
for
bringing
this
ordinance
to
the
council.
The
city
government
should
belong
to
everyone
in
boston,
but
inclusivity
requires
intentionality,
simple
changes
to
the
way
we
operate
can
make
our
city
more
inclusive,
equitable
and
accessible
to
all.
I
will
be
ably
presented
represented.
A
Excuse
me
by
a
member
of
my
staff
at
today's
hearing
and
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
committee's
reports
and
working
with
the
committee
on
any
recommended.
Next
steps.
Sincerely,
andrea
campbell
boston
city
councilor
just
before
so
at
this
point
I
wanted
to
also
note
that
we
have
also
been
joined
and
who
will
be
testifying
with
us.
Is
I
have
thom
wilkins.
A
A
A
D
A
Okay,
okay
and
then
we
also
have,
as
I
will,
try
and
say
more
eloquently:
tanya
ness
lusin
apologies
from
mass
equality,
executive
director
of
mass
equality
at
treyandre,
valentine
from
the
executive
director
of
mass
trend
and
transgender
political
alliance.
So
the
administration
had
asked-
and
I
believe
that
the
sponsors
were
okay
with
the
administration
going
first
in
their
testimony,
and
then
I
I
think
again
looking
to
the
co-sponsors
since
this
is,
I
think
it's
a
moment
for
us
to
be
educated
as
well
and
to
listen.
A
J
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair,
it's
great
to
be
here
with
so
many
distinguished
guests
and
I'll
just
go
on
record
of
supporting
the
measure
and
look
forward
to
hearing
the
testimony
as
the
very
first
city-wide
official
to
support
marriage
equality
before
the
good
rich
decision
and
haven't
been
recognized
by
mass
equality
in
the
past
great
organization
and
look
forward
to
continued
partnership,
and
this
is
much
needed
and
looking
forward
to
having
full
support
and
get
this
thing
on
the
books.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
K
Great
thank
you
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
counselors.
Thank
you
for
providing
this
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
around
ensuring
gender
inclusive
language
on
city-related
forms.
My
name
is
patrick
fandell
and
I
serve
as
the
liaison
to
the
lgbtq
community
in
the
mayor's
civic
engagement
cabinet.
My
pronouns
are
he
him
and
his.
K
K
However,
this
summer
it
was
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
registrar
and
the
administration
that
a
couple
intending
to
marry
could
not
accurately
complete
their
marriage
license,
as
one
of
the
pair
did
not
identify
with
the
gender
binary
options.
This
individual
intended
to
note
x,
which
was
not
available
as
it
currently
stands.
The
city
of
boston
cannot
offer
the
option
because
the
commonwealth
massachusetts
forum
is
limited
to
male
or
female.
K
We
intend
to
expand
this
to
include
representatives
from
other
city
departments
to
streamline
the
identification
and
collection
of
documents.
It
is
the
intent
of
the
administration
to
catalog.
These
documents
identify
the
ownership
and
the
process
by
which
the
document
would
have
to
be
updated
and
then
implement
the
gender
inclusive
language.
As
quickly
as
possible,
while
I
am
confident
in
the
shift
to
a
more
gender
inclusive
language,
I
want
to
emphasize
the
massive
scope
of
this
task.
K
In
closing,
mayor
walsh
wholeheartedly
supports
the
intent
of
this
ordinance
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
council
city
advocates
and
residents
across
the
city
further
on
this
much
needed
update
to
the
city's
existing
and
future
documents
to
provide
for
a
more
inclusive
representation
for
every
resident
here
in
the
city.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
I
I
We
live
in
boston,
it's
you
know,
a
giant
liberal
watering
hole
and
also
from
a
more
tangible,
realistic
standpoint.
My
license
has
a
next
gender
marker.
All
of
my
healthcare
providers
give
an
option
for
multiple
gender
options
and
honestly,
as
the
former
vice
chair
of
the
massachusetts
lgbt
commission
on
youth,
I'm
very
very
past
disappointed.
I
After
a
verbal,
a
verbal
altercation
with
a
city
hall
staff
member
who
dismissed
me
by
saying,
take
it
up
with
marty
walsh,
I
decided
to
reach
out
to
the
people
I
knew
who
could
help,
and
here
we
are
today
my
heart
breaks
for
the
people
who
arrived
to
be
married
and
saw
the
same
form
that
I
did
my
heart
breaks,
because
I
know
how
they
felt.
I
mean
this
experience
overshadowed
our
entire
day.
The
rest
of
the
day
was
spent,
making
phone
calls
sending
emails.
I
D
L
L
L
Most
city
forms
are
in
government
forms
in
general,
are
used
at
extremely
sensitive
points
in
people's
lives,
times
of
extreme
joy
and
extreme
sorrow
and
to
risk
being
misgendered
or
not
know
how
to
fill
out.
The
form
in
that
moment
can
be
disheartening
at
best
and
discouraging
and
isolating
at
worst,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
every
member
of
the
commonwealth
feels
included
and
welcome
now
that
we
have
the
gender
x
designation
as
a
on
our
state
at
the
state
level
on
our
licenses.
L
A
A
A
M
Oh,
I
muted
hi
hi,
wow,
hi,
okay,
so
sorry,
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous.
You
all
talk
so
officially
it's
freaking
me
out
a
little
bit.
I'm
17,
my
name
is
bec.
I'm
a
high
school
senior
and
I
use
data
on
pronouns
and
I
guess
I'm
just
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
experience
with
like
public
forums
and
stuff.
M
Like
that,
you
know,
I
haven't
signed
a
lot
of
them
in
my
lifetime,
only
being
17,
but
you
know
the
ones
I
have
even
just
every
time,
I'm
confronted
with
like
a
a
gendered.
I
guess
gender
language
on
official
forms.
It's
it
kind
of
stares
back
at
me
in
a
way
that,
like
it,
tells
me
that
I'm
not
included-
and
I'm
not
seen
in
my
city
in
my
state
in
my
in
my
country.
M
M
M
So
it's
just
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
have
to
choose
one
of
those
options.
It's
hard
to
have
to
choose
the
option
that
you
know.
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
whenever
I
have
to
whenever.
I
have
to
sign
something
it's
hard
to
have
no
choice,
it's
hard
to
not
have
an
option
against
that,
and
it's
just
it's
exhausting
and
it's
sad,
and
I
just
wish
that
my
country
saw
me
as
like
another
human
being
just
like
the
people
who
use
she
here.
A
Testimony
was
perfect
and
it
was
from
the
heart
and
I'm
gonna
invite
you
to
stay
on
camera
and
be
part
of
this
conversation,
because
we
have
a
lot
to
learn
from
you.
I
hope
you
see
us
as
your
city
councillors,
seeing
and
valuing
you,
and
your
and
and
also
the
mayor,
isn't
here,
but
his
liaison
is
here
as
well,
so
that
patrick,
but
as
you
see
your
local
government,
I
should
say
seeing
and
valuing,
and
listening
and
learning
from
you
thank
you
so
much.
A
D
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
so
so
much
to
beck
and
dom
for
being
part
of
this
with
us
today.
I
I
think
I'll
start
with
patrick,
if
that's
okay,
patrick
since
you're
here
representing
the
administration,
you
know,
I
hear
you
around
the
need
for
the
state
to
also
kind
of
finish
expanding
the
reach
of
their
changes
across
all
of
the
their
licenses.
That
also
touch
different
pieces
of
how
folks
interact
with
the
city.
B
I
think
for
me
you
know,
we've
seen
very,
very
many
examples
in
the
past
where,
even
though
something
was
at
the
state
when
the
city
did
take
action,
it
gave
it
that
extra
momentum
and
pressure
and
leverage
to
accelerate
things.
So
I
I
just
want
to
you
know
for
anyone
who's
watching,
emphasize
that
this,
the
language
of
this
ordinance,
I'm
running
out
of
batteries.
B
The
language
of
this
ordinance
is
also,
and
the
other
forms
documents
that
we
might
not
even
realize
right
so
just
to
basically
put
in
a
requirement
that
we
are
going
to
do
a
proactive
sweep
across
everything
which
it
sounds
like
the
administration
is
already
beginning.
Thank
you
so
much,
but
to
really
just
codify
that
into
a
requirement
and
make
sure
that
the
reporting
and
the
results
of
that
are
transparent
to
the
public
and
to
the
council
as
well.
B
I
had
worked
with
the
administration
just
administratively
on
an
issue
around
birth
certificate
request
forms
which
at
that
time
only
said,
mother
and
father
in
terms
of
the
names
that
you
fill
out
to
be
able
to
request
your
child's
certificate
to
be.
You
know
printed
up
and
and
officially
presented.
So
we
had
that
changed
overnight
to
say
parent,
one
parent
two,
but
you
know
who
knows
at
least
I
don't.
B
Point
what
other
forms
there
are
out
there
that
are
having
that
kind
of
very
significant
impact.
So,
patrick,
do
you
have
any
specific
issue
with
this
language
or
is
it
you
know
from
what
you
said?
It
sounds
like
it
just
about
dovetails
exactly
with
what's
already
happening
and
would
be
a
good
way
to
just
codify
that.
K
Dovetails
very
nicely
with
the
work
that
we've
you
know
embarked
on
preliminarily
I
do
you
know,
I
anticipate
the
scope
of
this
to
be
quite
broad,
I
think,
from
a
public
facing
view.
You
know
the
city's
website
serves
as
a
great
springboard
into
various
city
departments.
You
can
find
some
forms
there
to
your
point.
K
I
think,
as
we
expand
upon
upon
this
internally,
the
documents
that
we're
using
you
know
inside
the
building
behind
the
scenes
are
the
ones
where
we
might
find
the
most
opportunity
to
make
the
changes
that
we
need
to
update
to
make
this
a
more
inclusive
form.
So
far
as
anything
that
comes,
I
think
that
you
know
so
far.
I've
done
a
preliminary
search
on
some
of
these.
I
think
most
pertinently.
It
will
come
up
through
hr
and
onboarding
documents.
K
It'll
probably
come
up
in
anything
related
to
small
business
or
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
kind
of
in
those
applications
or
any
certifications
necessary.
I'm
anticipating
with
departments,
for
example,
like
moya
on
the
mayor's
office
of
immigrant
advancement
advancement,
which
interface
with
state
agencies,
but
most
pertinently
with
federal
agencies.
We
might
find
documents
that
you
know
are
restricted
at
a
federal
level
or
language
by
the
agencies
that
oversee
those.
K
Last
night,
I
was
just
trying
to
call
some
outward-facing
documents
and
again
using
the
example
of
moya,
for
instance,
to
apply
to
become
a
u.s
citizen.
All
that
documentation
is
limited
to
the
male
female
gender
by
mary,
so
I'm
hoping
from
the
mayor's
office
from
the
city
councilors
to
use
these
pulpits
that
we
have
to
advocate
to
know
our
state
partners
to
our
federal
partners
and
our
federal
delegation,
the
the
pressing
need
to
foster
a
more
inclusive,
not
only
city
but
inclusive
commonwealth
and
inclusive
country
overall.
K
B
Absolutely-
and
I
think
even
that
you
know
what
I
appreciate
about-
how
we're
approaching
this
with
this
ordinance-
is
that
the
required
reporting
of
what
still
remains
and
and
therefore
be
you
know
within
those
conferences-
and
this
is
a
state
forum,
and
this
is
a
federal
forum.
I
think
also
just
helps
us
direct
public
advocacy
to
to
back
up
the
push
as
well.
So
so
you
have
no
issue
with
the
language
as
it's
written
great.
No.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Patrick,
it's
a
question
for
patrick
in
terms
of
reviewing
the
forms
that
already
exist
and
are
you
know
reviewing
the
the
scope
of
the
forms?
Have
you
any
idea?
I
know
you've
been
talking
about
this
issue
for
some
time.
Have
you
any
idea
how
long
that
might
take,
or
are
we
some
sort
of
sense
of
how
the
scale
of
it
you
say
it
is
quite
broad,
but
how
broad
is
broad
and
and
and
some
sort
of
a
timeline
that
we
might
be
able
to
achieve
these
goals.
K
I
think
that
so
I
know
the
ordinance
mentions
the
60-day
reporting
period.
I
think
that
is
something
that
we're
still
considering,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
can
be
done
to
identify
catalog,
determine
ownership
and
identify
what
processes
would
be
needed
to
change
those
documents.
I
I
would
say
that
so
far
as
scope,
we're
still
in
the
early
stages
of
evaluating
that,
I
think
by
the
60-day
benchmark.
I
think
we
will
probably
have
accomplished
some
good
work.
K
K
If
it's
an
online
form,
if
it
involves
a
third
party,
let's
say
source,
I
just
want
to
be
cognizant
of
that,
so
I
think
we're
still
evaluating
it.
I
think
the
60
benchmark
is
something
that
we
can
work
with
and
then
beyond
that.
Obviously
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
do.
I
just
want
us
all
to
be
cognizant
of
potential
hiccups.
K
I
would
defer
to
igr
for
those
kind
of
discussions,
but
preliminarily.
I
noticed
again
with
agencies
like
moya
and
agencies
that
interface,
I
think,
with
actions
that
require
you
know
the
federal
oversight,
for
example,
immigration
forms
if
it's
a
federal
grant.
If
it's
something
of
that
scope,
I
think
that's
what
I
would
be
worried
about,
so
I
would
defer
again
to
the
igr
team
on
that
front
and
other
members
of
the
administration
on
the
direct
contact
with
those
agencies.
A
F
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
quick
question:
counselor
wu
and
counselor
breeden
and
potentially,
since
you
guys,
are
the
makers
of
this.
I'm
just
curious
is
this:
will
this
also
include
forms
like
in
the
boston
public
schools,
because
I
know
that
during
registration
you
know
we
have
to
pick
genders
is?
Is
this
for
all
or
just
like
things
in
city
hall,.
F
Advocate
for
in
the
boston,
public
schools,
that's
really
important
in
terms
of
the
discussion,
and
I
I
you
know.
I
think
that
this
is
a
no-brainer
to
be
honest
with
you
and
I
don't
think,
there's
a
reason
for
anyone
to
occupy
space
for
the
sake
of
occupying
space.
So
I
don't
have
any
real,
specific
questions
as
it
relates
to
this.
I
just
think
it's
a
no-brainer
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
move
along
with.
So
I
appreciate
counselor
edwards.
D
A
O
You
are
okay.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
I'm
not
at
a
place
where
I
can
be
be
stable.
I
don't
have
my
packet
in
front
of
me,
but
wanted
to
just
say
again
to
the
makers
how
grateful
I
am
for
their
leadership
and
to
those
who
have
shared
their
stories.
Deep,
deep
apologies
for
how
you
have
interfaced
with
city
government
and
how
that
has
made.
O
You
feel
no
one
should
be
made
to
feel
that
way,
and
I'm
glad
that
we
are
doing
something
about
it
in
terms
of
this
ordinance
and
it
has
my
full
support.
So
I
don't
have
any
specific
questions.
I
just
hope
that
we
can
move
it
along
quickly.
I
share
the
concerns
and
excitement
that
this
is
going
to
expand
for
all
city
forms,
housing,
applications,
school
registration,
etc,
and
I
I
just
it
has
my
full
support,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
this
done
and
vote
on
it
in
our
next
meeting.
A
Well,
I'm
I'm
next,
but
then
after
me,
I'll
be
a
counselor
florida,
counselor
box
and
counselor
sabe
george.
I
just
had
a
very
good
question
for
the
administration.
I
I'm
not
hearing
a
no,
but
I'm
not
hearing
a
guess
about
the
ordinance.
So
it's
government
op
chair,
I'm
kind
of
wanting
to
know
that
am
I
is
it
red
light
green
light,
yellow
light.
We.
K
If
I
could
counselor
well,
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
counselor
mahia's
question
about
the
boston
public
schools.
We
will
fully
be
encouraging
all
the
quasi
agencies-
bps
bpd
bfd,
the
bpda-
to
take
up
action
on
this
matter.
I
know
the
intent
of
the
makers
was
to
be
a
broad,
sweeping
change
and
we'd
like
to
underscore
that
comment
as
well.
A
A
With
this
with
this
legislation,
I
just
wanted
to
echo
the
sense
of
urgency
too,
because
you
know
our
city,
human
rights,
commission
and
city
laws
make
clear
that
we
as
a
city
are
not
allowed
to
discriminate
based
on
gender
identity.
So
so,
if
our
forms
are
not
in
line
with
our
own
legal
code,
we're
subject
to
liability
honestly,
so
I
prefer
to
close
that
loop
and
make
sure
that
we
are
not
and
with
a
sense
of
urgency,
quite
frankly,
to
make
sure
that
we
we're
lucky.
A
I
N
Bach,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thanks
so
much
to
patrick
from
the
administration
and
especially
to
dom
and
back
for
sharing
your
stories
and
and
to
tanya
for
being
here
for
mass
equality.
I
agree
with
everyone
that
this
is
urgent
and
something
that
we
should
be
doing
without
delay,
and
I
I
really
want
to
underscore
to
me
there's
sort
of
two
dimensions
of
this.
One
that
I
think
we've
heard
really
strongly
and
movingly
from
all
of
you
is,
is
how
you
know
you
should
not.
N
P
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair,
and
I
apologize
for
coming
into
this
hearing
a
little
late
and
missed
some
of
the
earlier
questions,
but
my
one,
my
one
thought
my
one
sort
of
question
and
wonder:
if
this
is
an
appropriate
place
for
it,
I
think
it
may
be.
Are
we
have
we
looked
at
our
building
code
regulations
at
all
to
see
if
there
is
language
that
requires
things
like
a
men's
restroom
or
a
female's,
restroom
women,
or
is
that
language
in
there
or
and
can
we
adjust
and
adapt
that
language.
D
A
P
It's
the
the
specifically
around
building
code,
where
that
may
be
like
state
ordinances
too,
like
there
are
certain
requirements
of
certain
things,
so
that
language
in
that
code
may
be
something
that
we'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
in
a
different
way.
Correct
that
that's
the
only
thing
that
I'd
add
to
the
conversation.
P
F
Yes,
I
had
one
more
question:
it
was
a
more
of
an
afterthought
and
I'm
not
sure
if
this
I'm
just
going
to
throw
it
out
there
where's
counselor
edwards,
so
there
you
are,
I
like
to
see
your
face
when
I'm
talking
so
I'm
just
curious
about.
I
know
we're
talking
specifically
about
language
on
forms,
but
I'm
also
just
wondering
you
know,
and
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
can
consider
down
the
pipeline
counselor,
wu
and
reading.
F
Maybe
something
else
is
that
also
how
educators
address
students
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
utilize
this
opportunity
to
it's
not
just
about
forms,
but
even
how
customer
service
right
when
you
go
pay
your
parking
ticket?
You
know,
if
you
call
me
ma'am
what
about,
if
I
don't
identify
as
man
like,
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
take
this
step,
one
step
further
and
not
just
about
forms,
but
also
verbal
communication?
F
A
I
think
what
would
be
great,
if
is
if
patrick,
could
come
back
to
us
with
how
gender
identity
and
gender
equity
is
taught
in
our.
I
know
I
did
training.
For
example,
when
I
worked
for
the
city
of
boston,
you
go
through
the
training,
you
get
an
orientation,
so
it'd
be
great
to
know
how
we
we
orient
our
employees.
I
think
part
of
that
part
of
dom's
experience
was.
Somebody
clearly
did
not
have
training,
correct
training
in
how
to
deal
with
gender
identity.
A
So
that's
one
thing
we
should
we
should
commit
to.
I
don't
know
that
the
ordinance
necessarily
would
be
the
proper
vehicle
for
that
commitment,
but
I
think
I
see
with
patrick's
head
nodding.
I
think
we
we
can
get
that
commitment
and
training
and
then,
as
it
transitions
over
into
boston,
public
schools,
I
think
we
can
easily
get
the
superintendent
casilius
to
commit
to
that
as
well.
A
F
And
counselor
edwards:
do
you
think
in
terms
of
this
ordinance,
would
we
be
able
to
ask
a
counselor,
wu
and
council
bleeding
since
it's
yours,
so
I
should
be
asking
y'all,
but
through
the
chair
to
acquire
where
it
looks,
I
just
need
that.
Do
you
think
it's
possible
to
have
like
a
dashboard
so
that
we
can
see
which
of
our
city
agencies
have
not
been
living
up
to
this?
Is
there
their
way
for
accountability?
F
B
Is
it
the
same
forms
that
they
put
out
over
and
over
again
or
different
ones
every
time?
So
I
think,
for
you
know
at
least
for
on
on
my
part,
I
won't
speak
for
counselor
braden
herself,
the
it
was
important
to
have
the
accountability
piece
of
making
sure
that
there
was
a
formal
requirement
of
a
report
back
to
the
council
within
a
certain
time.
C
You
know
this
is
what
we're
aspiring
to.
We
might
screw
up,
but
let
us
know
when
we're
screwing
up
so
to
speak.
You
know
this
is
a
learning
curve
for
for
many
people
who
are
unfamiliar
with
the
with
this
this
language,
so
I
think
a
honeymoon
period
to
educate
and
engage
people
in
the
conversation
would
be
very
appropriate
at
training
and
training
is
very
essential.
A
L
O
M
I
completely
agree
about
you
know
the
the
fact
that
forms
can
really
spark
that
kind
of
conversation
or
that
thought
process
in
people,
and
I
agree
that
you
know
just
seeing
how
many
non-binary
people
exist
in
your
space.
Like
is
a,
I
think,
it's
a
good
reminder
and
it
might
prompt
some
people
to
stop
to
be
more
open
and
willing
to
learn.
M
Yeah,
it's
sorry,
I
kind
of
want
to
spend
any
time
I
thought
yeah.
So
the
teachers
don't
really
use
my
pronouns
at
all,
which
is
a
little
bit
weird
because
they're
adults,
they
should
you
know
they're
they're
educators.
They
should
have
to
learn
about
these
things
and
they
should
have
to
treat
their
students
in
ways
that
make
them
feel
comfortable
and
safe.
M
You
in
front
of
20
of
their
classmates
repeatedly
or
just
have
all
of
those
20
other
classmates.
Take
that
as
a
sign
of
yeah.
You
can
do
that
now,
that's
allowed
you
can
you
can
just
misgender
me
and
detonate
me
as
much
as
you
want
and
it's
because
neither
of
them
have
the
proper
education
and
the
proper
tools
to
actually
be.
You
know
good
about
this
and
allow
people
to
feel
safe
and
comfortable
in
their
spaces
and
I'm
tired
of
having
to
educate
people
everywhere.
M
A
M
A
M
A
Well,
so
we
have
the
support
of
the
administration
and
we
have
wonderful
legislation
before
us.
I
think
what
we
can
do
in
the
next
less
than
a
week
and
the
la
in
the
next
six
days,
seven
days
that
we
have,
we
can
make
sure
that
we
are
all
cleared
down
to
the
comma.
I
don't
think
we
need
a
working
session
on
this.
I
think
we
can
do
this
amongst
ourselves,
so
I
encourage
advocates.
I
encourage
everyone
who
spoke
today.
A
The
legislation
is
not
complicated
and
we,
if
you
would
like
a
copy
of
it,
christine
o'donnell
or
you
can
email
the
committee
ccc.go
at
boston.gov.
We
will
give
you
a
copy
of
it.
We'd
love
to
hear
your
thoughts,
so
the
co-sponsors
have
would
love
to
hear
everyone's
thoughts
about
how
we're
going
to
get
this
done
next
week.
C
I
just
want
to
thank,
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
participating
in
the
conversations
bec.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
what
you
shared
with
us
in
dumb
and
and
tanya.
Thank
you
so
much
for
and
patrick
thank
you
for
all
being
here
and
I'm
very
very
excited
to
see
this
move
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
K
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
the
counselor
just
mentioned.
I
I
this
is
truthfully
my
first
city
council
hearing
testifying
at,
but
I
I
think
the
the
importance
of
the
discussion
we're
having
here
today
has
such
greater
implications
than
any
one
of
us
and
the
little
bit
of
kindness
and
value
that
this
change
will
bring.
Not
only
the
residents
of
boston,
but
you
know,
hopefully
inspire
other
cities,
municipalities
across
the
commonwealth.