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Docket #0933 - Hearing regarding community healing and trust building after child sexual abuse
A
A
A
B
A
My
good
afternoon,
everyone
for
the
record,
my
name
is
liz
braden,
the
district
9
city
councilor.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council
committee
committee
on
strong
women,
families
and
communities.
A
I
am
joined
this
afternoon
by
my
colleagues,
counselor
lydia
edwards
of
district
one
and
counselor
at
large,
michael
flaherty.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
dash
council
dash
tv.
It
will
be
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel,
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
fios
channel
964.
A
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
testify
via
video
conference,
please
email,
michellem,
dot,
a
dot
goldberg
at
boston.gov
to
sign
up
when
you're
called
please
state
your
name
and
affiliation
or
residence,
and
limit
your
comments
to
no
more
than
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
can
be
heard.
A
A
C
C
After
talking
with
a
constituent
and
friend
of
mine,
specifically
about
injury
that
she
had
felt
and
how
the
that
that,
when
dealing
with
a
controversy
or
an
issue
with
a
person
who
was,
I
think,
well
a
predator
in
the
community,
I
don't
want
to
tell
her
story,
but
I
do
feel
that
her
story
in
terms
of
specifics,
but
I
do
believe
the
issue
of
how
community
comes
together
falls
apart
after
scandal
has
broken,
is
what
I
wanted.
C
C
This
is
not
trying
to
say
that
we
that
the
system
is
perfect
if
at
anything,
there
are
some
gaps
that
maybe
we
could
talk
about
today.
But
I
want
to
be
clear
to
everybody
as
the
boston
city
council.
Those
gaps
that
we
that
may
come
up
today
cannot
be
fixed
in
our
body.
C
They
would
be
fixed
at
the
state
house,
but
this
is
for
an
affirmative.
Excuse
me
an
informative
moment
for
folks
to
at
least
again
explain
the
impact
on
them.
I
apologize
for
speaking
so
long
counselor
braden,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
people
understood
the
confines
of
this
very
deep
painful
conversation.
C
We
will
not
be
hearing
about
specific
incidents
of
child
rape
or
molestation
we're
talking
about
the
impact
afterwards,
and
I
wanted
to
also
thank
councillor
flaherty
for
his
leadership
and
co-sponsorship
as
well,
because
he
is
one
of
the
first
people
to
try
and
talk
about
this
to
go
to
the
state
house
from
our
body
years
before
I
was
even
on
there,
and
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
leadership
and
the
historical
knowledge
and
also
the
heart
that
he
brings
to
this
moment.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
braden,
for
hosting
the
hearing,
and
also
for
my
colleague
and
co-sponsor
councillor
edwards
for
her
partnership
in
this
issue.
As
she
had
mentioned,
this
body
has
led
on
this
issue
in
the
past
and
more
recently,
our
colleagues
council
flynn
and
council
campbell
had
hosted
hearings
on
domestic
violence
and
sexual
assault
on
behalf
of
the
of
the
city
council.
B
So
it's
it's
not
unique
space,
but
this
hearing
is
unique
and
it's
also
extremely
difficult
for
many
people
to
hear
or
to
participate
in
because
of
the
specific
focus
on
child
sexual
abuse.
These
horrific
abuses
can
take
place
in
an
instant
over
a
period
of
years
and
our
victims,
survivors
and
their
families
in
communities
carry
the
trauma
with
them
for
the
rest
of
their
lives,
and
this
trauma
takes
shape
in
a
variety
of
different
forms.
B
Chairman
hayden
who's
with
us.
He
and
I
had
a
front
row
seat,
working
together
as
assistant
district
attorneys
for
the
suffolk
county
da's
office,
and
can
speak
to
some
of
the
horrific
cases
that
we
dealt
with
and
also
dealing
with
the
victims
and
their
families
and
the
trauma
as
we
prosecuted.
Those
matters-
and
you
know
the
focus
of
this
hearing
is
mentioned-
is
to
discuss
how
we,
as
the
city,
can
empower
our
victims
and
families
with
the
resources
and
services,
and
also
the
appropriate
tools
to
understand.
B
You
know
how
to
cope
with
this
trauma
so
that
they
can
move
forward
in
their
healing
process
in
their
journey.
I
cannot
stress
enough
how
critical
is
for
us
to
identify
and
provide
people
with
a
continuum
of
services.
Providing
an
adequate
continuum
of
services
allows
us
to
meet
people
where
they
are
at
in
their
healing
process.
B
Other
aspects
of
today's
discussion
will
be
about
explaining
how
the
legal
process
works,
how
the
process
can
be
re-traumatizing
to
victims
and
ideas
about
how
we
can
improve
those
processes
and,
of
course,
about
prevention
of
child
sex
abuse.
First
and
foremost,
so
thank
you
to
our
panelists
for
taking
the
time
to
be
here
on
a
friday
afternoon
and
for
your
for
your
work
in
the
space.
We've
got
extremely
talented,
committed,
dedicated
list
of
professionals
here,
and
I
know
it's
not
easy
work.
B
B
So
speaking
on
behalf
of
all
my
colleagues
in
the
city
council
and
the
administration
that
we're
so
grateful
for
all
of
you
being
here
today,
so
look
forward
to
hearing
the
testimony
and
learning
more
about
the
issue
and
how
we
can
continue
to
partner
together
to
provide
a
continuum
of
services
for
those
that
have
been
victimized
and
traumatized
by
sex
abuse.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
my
colleagues.
A
Thank
you,
councillor.
Flaherty
we've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
ed
flynn,
julia
contra
mejia.
Would
you
like
to
make
brief
opening
statement.
D
Sure
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors
for
hosting
this
for
sponsoring
this
hearing.
This
is
an
incredibly
timely
hearing
as
during
the
holidays,
not
just
during
a
pandemic,
but
many
survivors
are
forced
to
be
near,
I'm
the
ones
that
have
abused
them.
I
know
that
this
will
be
an
incredibly
emotional
conversation,
but
I
hope
we
leave
inspired
to
create
change
that
will
make
it
easier
for
people
to
rebuild
and
heal.
As
the
chair
of
civil
rights,
we
talk
a
lot
about
trauma
and
how
that
can
impact
our
whole
village.
D
There
isn't
one
easy
answer
or
remedy
to
this
problem
and
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
to
figure
out
how
to
build
trust
and
to
heal,
and
I
also
just
want
to
uplift
the
the
importance
around
the
stigma
that
exists
in
when
you're
talking
about
sexual
abuse,
especially
in
the
latino
community.
D
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
hush
hush
happening
and
in
many
ways
not
even
trying
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
happening,
and
I
think
that
that
part
of
the
healing
and
that
part
of
the
denial
doesn't
help
when
you're
trying
to
heal.
D
So
I
think
that
when,
as
we
continue
to
have
this
conversation,
I
just
want
to
uplift
the
stigma
that
exists,
particularly
in
communities
of
color
when
it
comes
to
this,
and
I
know
in
the
latino
community,
this
is
running
rampant,
so
really
happy
that
the
makers
have
brought
this
forth
and
looking
forward
to
the
conversation.
A
Thank
you
councilman
here,
councillor
flynn.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
braden,
thank
you,
council,
edwards
and
flaherty
for
filing
the
hearing
order.
Councillor
braden
for
sharing
this
important
hearing
as
well.
Child
sex
abuse
is
extremely
traumatic
to
the
victims
in
their
families,
and
it's
as
councilman
mejia
mentioned.
It's
often
not
talked
about,
especially
in
the
immigrant
communities.
E
I'm
glad
that
we're
having
this
conversation
now
about
how
we
can
help
the
victims
heal
and
help
the
community
heal
as
well.
I
worked
with
councillor
campbell
last
year
on
a
sexual
assault
and
domestic
violence
hearing
we
helped
we
held
that
at
northeastern
university
with
some
of
the
with
their
domestic
violence
task
force
at
north.
At
northeastern
university.
It
was
powerful
to
hear
the
panelists
testimony.
E
I
know
that
these
types
of
issues
are
difficult
to
talk
about
and
often
under
reported
because
of
the
stigma
as
council
and
mahira
just
mentioned.
I
hope
that
we
can
come
together
as
a
community
to
provide
what
is
needed
for
our
sexual
abuse
victims
to
heal
and
rebuild
their
trust.
I
look
forward
to
listening
to
the
panelists
and
learning
more
about
how
the
city
can
be
helpful.
A
C
A
C
Happy
to
introduce
the
the
panel
so
for
panelist
number
one
or
for
the
first
panel
we
have
some
civil
city
state
and
county
agencies
or
partner
agencies
who
are
will
provide
logistical
perspective
of
the
existing
system
that
we
have
and
either
monitoring,
labeling
and
also
in
responding
to
child
sexual
abuse.
We
have
chairman
kevin
hayden
from
the
sex
offender
registry
board.
C
C
We
have
ann
marie
delaney,
the
director
of
family
justice
center
as
well-
and
I
do
I-
we
did
get
written
testimony
from
stephanie
mccarthy
from
the
massachusetts
office
of
victims
assistance,
though
I
don't
believe
she'll
be
here
today.
She
may
be
if
I
didn't
see
her
sign
and
I
apologize,
but
we
did
have
that
as
well,
so
I
wanted
to
first
again
set
the
stage
for
the
current
system
that
we
have.
So
we
can
ask
questions.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
councilor
edwards,
chairman
hidden.
Would
you
like
to
start.
F
Your
good
afternoon,
everybody
and
thank
you
to
all
the
city
councillors
and
to
councilwoman
edwards
and
flaherty
in
particular,
for
calling
this
forum
together
on
this
important
issue
and
inviting
us
it's
it's
good,
to
see
some
old
faces
and
glad
to
be
here
to
give
a
little
insight
on
the
sex
offender
registry
board
and
sort
of
what
we
do.
F
I'm
going
to
be
decidedly
brief
in
in
in
my
comments,
because
I
want
to
turn
the
bulk
of
our
time
over
to
judy
norton,
who
runs
our
victim
services
unit
for
the
sex
spending
registry
board.
I
probably
probably
her
input
and
and
her
expertise-
that's
going
to
be
a
much
larger
interest
to
the
folks
here,
but
I
did
want
to
just
give
a
brief
overview
of
our
classification
process.
That's
how
these
offenders
are
identified,
as,
as
most
people
here
probably
know
but
I'll
just
repeat
it.
F
Our
primary
mission
is
to
educate
and
inform
the
public
and
to
promote
public
safety
and
prevent
further
victimization
by
making
sex
offender
registry
information
and
information
with
regards
to
certain
sex
offender
sex
offenders
available
to
the
public
that
happens
through
our
registration
and
classification
process.
F
That
I'm
going
to
just
talk
about
here
briefly,
so
all
sex
offenders
that
are
required
to
register
within
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts
go
through
that
classification
go
through
a
classification
process
whereby
they're
ultimately
determined
to
be
either
a
level
one
two
or
three
sex
offender
level,
one
sex
offenders
being
of
the
lowest
risk
and
lowest
degree
of
danger
to
reoffend
level.
F
Two
offenders
being
considered
to
be
at
a
moderate
risk
of
re-offense
and
degree
of
danger
and
level
threes
determined
to
be
of
the
highest
risk
to
reoffend
and
to
have
the
highest
degree
of
danger
if
they
should
reoffend.
There
are
enough
several
triggering
events
that
can
result
in
that
classification
process.
I'm
going
to
mention
them
briefly
and
then
talk
about
the
classification
process
in
and
of
itself,
because
the
reality
is
is
that,
regardless
of
which
category
you
fall
into
the
classification
process,
they
go
into
will
be
pretty
similar.
F
So
one
could
be
required
to
initially
register
and
be
classified
upon.
The
commission
of
a
new
sex
offense
I.e
a
sex
offender
who
we
have
not
seen
before
they
just
got
convicted
in
court.
They
just
got
received
a
sentence
from
the
court
for
a
sex
offense
that
sort
of
thing-
maybe
they
got
probation,
who
knows,
but
they
were
convicted
of
a
new
sex
offense
they're
now
required
to
register
in
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts,
or
they
were
convicted
of
a
sex
offense
outside
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts,
and
they
moved
here.
F
Offenders
can
also
be
reclassified
up
at
the
request
of
the
board
if
we
have
information
or
reason
to
believe
that
the
risk
of
reoffense
or
degree
of
danger
has
elevated
in
some
way,
and
offenders
can
be
recla
potentially
be
reclassified
down
upon
their
petition
if
they
believe
they
can
demonstrate
to
the
board
that
their
risk
of
reoffense
or
degree
of
danger
has
decreased
in
any
way.
F
So
we
have
an
entire
unit
of
individuals
that
sex
the
vendor
registry
board,
whose
job
it
is
is
to
compile,
gather,
investigate
and
and
organize
all
of
the
document
documentary
evidence
relative
to
a
given
offender
and
relative
to
the
issues
at
hand
with
regards
to
their
criminal
history,
their
sex
offense.
Anything
that
might
bear
upon
the
matters
at
hand
they
need
to
be
classified
for
so
that
could
be
it
can
be
police
reports.
It
can
be
their
court
convictions,
it
can
be
their
border
probation
record
in
their
criminal
history.
F
It
can
be
documentation
relative
to
sex
offender
treatment
that
they've
received.
It
can
be
a
a
whole,
a
litany
of
documentation
relative
to
that
offender
that
we
use
and
look
at
in
order
to
determine
that
offender's
risk
of
reoffense
and
degree
of
danger
once
that
information
is
compiled
is
put
together
in
the
file.
That
file
is
provided
to
the
board
and
the
board
conducts
a
what
we
call
a
preliminary
classification
of
that
offender.
So
we
have
by
statute
and
by
regulations.
F
We
have
38
risk
factors
that
have
been
designed
and
used
to
determine
risk
of
reoffense
and
degree
of
danger,
and
our
board
members
will
go
through
that
file,
apply
those
risk
factors
and
determine
what
that
offenders
risk
over
the
offensive
degree
of
danger
would
be
either
one
two
or
three.
The
entire
process
is
a
it's
a
quasi-judicial
process.
It's
a
qualitative
determination
on
a
case-by-case
basis
of
an
offender's
risk
of
reoffense
and
degree
of
danger,
not
a
quantitative
one.
It's
not.
F
This
is
we're
not
running
information
through
some
sort
of
actuarial
assessment
tool
in
order
to
determine
make
these
determinations,
so
entire
process
is
quasi-judicial
so
once
that
preliminary
determination
is
made
the
people
that
need
to
know
what
that
determination
is
the
offender
and
the
various
parties
are
notified
of
that
of
that
that
level,
and
at
that
point
the
offender
could
accept
that
preliminary
classification,
or
they
could
ask
for
a
hearing
before
a
member
of
the
board
or
before
a
hearing
examiner
who
sits
in
the
same
capacity
as
a
board
member
presiding
presiding
over
an
administrative
hearing,
to
hear
testimony
to
look
at
all
the
evidence
in
order
to
make
that
determination.
F
Almost
all
of
our
offenders
will
will
ask
for
that.
Hearing
I
mean
the
the
hearing
process
is
really
fundamental
to
what
we
do,
because
I
would
say
nine
times
out
of
ten,
maybe
more
the
offender
is
going
to
ask
for
their
hearing,
so
hearing
will
be
conducted.
There
are
council
on
both
sides,
it's
council
for
the
board
and
counsel
for
the
offender.
F
All
of
the
documentary
evidence,
as
well
as
any
testimonial
evidence
with
regards
to
the
offender
and
anything
that
impacts
the
risk
of
reoffense
or
degree
of
danger
is
presented
to
that
board.
Member
or
hearing
examiner
and
that
board
board
member
hearing
examiner
at
the
conclusion
of
that
evidence
will.
F
F
They
can
really
run
the
gambit,
depending
on
the
nature
of
the
offense
and
the
in
the
amount
of
information.
That's
involved,
but
they'll
write
a
decision
that
could
be
anywhere
from
15
to
40
pages
that
reaches
that
determination
as
to
what
the
risk
of
the
offense
is
is.
A
Chairman,
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
can
you
wrap
this
up
and
we'll
go
to
the
next
to
miss
norton.
Thank.
F
You
so
that's
what
I
should
start
to
do
so
that
that
decision
is
subject
to
judicial
scrutiny,
and
that
is
that's
essentially
how
our
classification
decisions
are
reached.
A
Very
good,
thank
you,
I'm
sure
the
panel,
our
attendees,
may
have
further
questions
as
we
go
further
into
the
conversation
we've
been
joined
by
counselor
alissa,
sabi
george
counselor
at
large
and
councillor
and
is
a
savvy
george.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
very
brief
statement
just
to.
G
No,
I
apologize
for
tuning
in
late
carry
on.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
ms
norton,
would
you
like
to
take
it
away.
H
H
As
kevin
said,
we
have
a
victim
service
unit
and
basically,
how
victim
survivors
and
their
families
enroll
with
us,
is
upon
the
conviction
of
an
offender
for
a
registerable
sex
offense,
and
while
we
take
victim
referrals
from
all
state
agencies
and
our
community-based
agencies,
the
predominant
amount
of
referrals
that
come
to
our
side
through
the
district
attorney's
office,
we've
set
up
a
referral
process
with
a
registration
form
and
they
they
complete
that
that
form
and
send
it
to
us
when
the
cases
have
been
resolved
in
court
and
right
now
we
have
11
600
victims
and
parents
and
guardians
registered
with
us
for
notification
and
support
and
assistance
everything
that
kevin
described
in
terms
of
the
process.
H
H
If
the
offender
requests
a
hearing
to
challenge
the
level
they're
also
notified
of
that-
and
it's
also
a
second
opportunity
for
them
to
submit
an
impact
statement
if
they
haven't
done
it
at
the
prelim
process
and
then
whenever
the
level
is
finalized
and
it's
published,
we
notified
victims
and
survivors
of
what
the
level
is
the
same
thing
as
if
there's
court
orders
that
we
receive
that
you
know.
If
an
injunction
is
filed,
stopping
us,
barring
us
from
publicizing
that
information
we
will.
H
We
will
notify
people
of
that
and
if
there
is
a
reclassification
to
increase
or
the
offender
requesting
to
have
that
level
lower,
then
we
will
provide
that
notification
and
then
also
if
the
offender
is
no
longer
subject
to
any
jurisdiction
within
massachusetts.
We
also
notify
them
of
that.
H
But
as
all
of
the
statements
that
you
all
made
in
the
opening
this
does
the
trauma
continues
for
victims,
survivors
and
their
family,
because
you
know
folks
register
for
post
conviction,
notification,
which
is
really
important
because
it'll
tell
them
if
the
offender's
trying
to
get
out
on
parole
or
when
they're
going
to
be
released
into
the
community
or
when
we're
going
to
be
classifying
them.
But
what
that
causes
people
to
do
is
to
revisit
all
of
that
trauma.
H
They
experience
when
the
crimes
are
being
committed
against
them,
and
so
we
try
to
provide
as
much
support
and
assistance
through
our
process
as
we
can
and
being
mindful
of
the
fact
that
if
the
process
itself
can
cause
more
trauma
to
people-
and
I
think
survivors
understand
that
you
know,
there's
laws
that
govern
what
we
do
what's
hard
for
them
is
when
the
laws
that
get
changed
or
there's
court
rulings
that
impact
their
ability
to
access
information
or
get
things
from
a
system
that
they
might
need
with
the
development
of
the
impact
statement.
H
It's
it's
different
than
what
people
might
typically
know
about
the
sentencing
impact
statement
through
the
trial
process,
because,
as
part
of
our
process,
the
impact
statement
gets
marked
as
an
actual
piece
of
evidence.
So
that's
something
that
we
that
we
notify
victim
survivors
of,
but
we
so
much
through
the
process.
When
we're
working
things,
issues
will
come
up
and
we
do
a
lot
of
referrals
and
connecting
victim
survivors
with
community-based
agencies.
H
There's
oftentimes
need
for
restraining
orders
and
so
forth,
and
the
effect
is
getting
out
of
custody
where
things
might
happen,
like
the
offender
might
be
using
the
victim's
address
for
their
registration
or
there
might
be
contact
and
violation
of
restraining
orders
and
so
forth.
So
we're
contacting
our
partners,
our
law
enforcement
partners
and
probation
parole
or
the
district
attorney's
office.
H
If
those
situations
tend
to
you
know,
come
up
as
we're
going
through
the
process
and
because
some
offenders
have
to
register,
for
you
know
quite
a
long
time
we're
dealing
with
these
vote
with
victim
survivors
again
and
again
over
time,
so
that
that
support
and
information
that
we
provide
them.
H
It's
it's
it's.
H
I
really
admire
the
courage
and
the
strength
that
we
often
see
from
victim
survivors
and
their
family,
their
willingness
to
stay
involved
with
the
system,
despite
the
challenges
that
that
they
encounter
over
time.
That's
pretty
much
it
in
terms
of
the
program
that
we
provide
for
services.
H
A
You
thank
you
judy.
Let's
see
susan
goldfarb,
would
you
like
to
share
your
testimony
now?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
I
The
team
is
vital
to
supporting
children,
and
this
interview
is
vital
because
it
minimizes
the
number
of
times
a
child
is
interviewed
and
limits
the
number
of
people
who
have
to
speak
directly
with
their
the
child
about
their
victimization
equally
important.
While
this
interview
is
happening,
a
clinician
from
our
team
is
sitting
with
the
child's
parent
or
caregiver
and
seeing
how
they're
doing
finding
out
about
their
concerns,
helping
them
understand
what's
happening
and
think
about
and
help
them
support
them,
invest
supporting
their
child.
I
That's
where
the
counseling
begins.
That's
where
the
trauma
intervention
begins,
and
it's
so
important
that
that
happen.
Concurrently
with
the
interview,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
believe
wholeheartedly
at
the
cac
is
that
kids
survive
abuse.
They
thrive
after
abuse
when
they
have
a
supportive
adult
in
their
life
and
the
adult
who's,
supporting
that
child
needs
support
equally
as
much
as
the
child,
because
without
that
support,
they're
not
going
to
be
available.
So
it's
really
not
just
about
the
child
or
just
about
their
parent.
I
I
I
think
it
would
be
impossible
to
be
here
today
and
not
mention
the
impact
of
covid19
for
kids
and
families
impacted
by
violence
and
abuse.
This
the
pandemic
has
added
immeasurable
stress
to
the
pre-existing
trauma,
and
we
we
feel
that
every
time
we're
talking
with
a
family,
the
conversation
is
never
just
about
the
abuse.
At
this
point,
it's
about
everything
else.
It's
about
school,
it's
about
food,
it's
about
whether
or
not
they'll
be
able
to
stay
in
their
home.
It's
everything
that
we've.
I
I
I
think
it's
important
to
mention
that
our
services
have
been
uninterrupted
during
covid
that,
despite
being
unable
to
meet
families
in
person,
forensic
interviews
are
happening.
Virtually
teams
are
happening.
Virtually
trauma,
counseling
is
happening.
Virtually
training
is
happening
every
day,
virtually
and
in
instances
where
children
may
need
extra
support
either
because
it's
not
safe
for
them
to
participate
in
an
interview
from
their
home
or
if
they're,
too
young
or
if
they
have
a
disability,
we
will
open
the
center
and
they
come
on
site
for
an
interview.
I
It's
deeply
personal
for
many
it's
uncomfortable
for
most,
but
while
child
sexual
abuse
is
hard
to
talk
about,
we
know
that
children
are
safer
when
we
make
it
part
of
the
public
conversation
and
when
we're
ready
to
take
collective
action,
both
to
protect
kids,
prevent
abuse,
be
responsive
when
disclosures
happen
in
communities
and
help
parents,
teachers
community
members
feel
ready.
For
that
moment,
when
a
child
comes
to
them
to
disclose
kids,
don't
talk
about
abuse
because
they're
afraid
they're
they're
worried
they
won't
be
believed,
they're
ashamed.
I
There
are
countless
reasons
that
prevent
them
from
speaking
up
when
they
do
speak
up.
Each
of
us
has
to
be
ready
to
listen,
and
we
have
to
know
what
to
do
so.
That's
why
another
very
important
part
of
what
we
do
is
provide
information
and
training
for
parents
for
community
groups
for
church
groups
for
schools.
I
Everyone
who
needs
to
be
ready
to
respond
to
a
child's
disclosure,
but
also
ready
to
know
how
to
talk
to
their
child,
as
was
raised
at
the
beginning
of
this
hearing.
If
they
learn
that
someone
in
their
community
may
have
harmed
another
child,
we
want
parents
to
feel
comfortable
having
a
conversation
with
their
child
about
whether
or
not
they're,
okay
and
if
they
have
any
concerns.
I
A
Thank
you
so
much
susan.
The
next
panel
member
is
anne-marie
delaney.
Would
you
like
to
share
your
testimony?
Marie?
Oh,
yes,
there
you
are.
I
see
you
ann
marie
hello,.
J
And
thank
you
yes
good
afternoon,
council
members.
Thank
you
for
inviting
the
boston
public
health
commission
to
this
hearing.
I
am
anne
marie
delaney,
the
director
of
the
family
justice
center,
which
is
a
program
of
the
division
of
violence
prevention
at
the
public
health
commission.
J
At
the
commission,
we
utilize
a
public
health
approach
to
reduce
sexual
and
domestic
violence
and
support
survivors
by
implementing
intervention
and
prevention
programming
across
the
life
course
applying
a
holistic
view
by
supporting
organizations
that
interact
with
survivors
to
increase
their
capacity
to
offer
trauma-informed
care
and
prioritizing
a
health
equity
approach
that
recognizes
the
impact
of
multiple
forms
of
violence,
including
child,
sexual
abuse,
structural
racism
and
other
forms
of
oppression.
J
One
way
we
operationalize
our
approach
is
in
the
cross
agency,
collaboration
at
the
family,
justice
center,
a
co
location
of
11
partner
agencies,
supporting
survivors
of
sexual
and
domestic
violence
and
their
families
that
are
seeking
safety,
justice
and
healing
our
partner
agencies
that
provide
services
for
children.
J
Who've
experienced
sexual
violence,
as
susan
has
said,
include
the
children's
advocacy
center,
headquartered
at
the
family,
justice
center
units
of
operation
from
the
boston
area,
right
crisis
center
and
the
program
my
life,
my
choice,
some
of
the
data
of
those
agencies
in
in
the
last
fiscal
year,
susan
referred
to
the
number
served
by
children's
advocacy,
the
barcs
staff
served
40
youth
on
site
and
my
life.
My
choice
provided
for
108
new
clients,
in
addition
to
the
143
they've,
already
have
engaged
in
services.
J
These
are
some
of
the
examples
of
collaborative
initiatives.
One
is
led
by
cac
and
recognizing
the
significant
benefits
of
a
multidisciplinary
collaboration.
The
commission,
along
with
25
other
child
serving
agencies
and
programs,
have
a
formal
agreement
designed
to
support
activities
that,
in
matters
of
child,
sexual
abuse,
provide
effective
approaches
to
investigations,
case
management,
services,
provision
and
prosecutions.
J
The
boston
area,
rape,
crisis,
center's
legislative
advocacy
efforts,
which
you
will
hear
more
about
today
from
the
from
representative
of
barc,
include
organizing
and
in
this
case,
in
support
this
example
in
support
of
the
healthy
youth
act,
which
would
require
school
districts
school
districts
in
massachusetts
that
teach
sex
ed
to
do
so
in
a
comprehensive
way
with
medical
accuracy
and
a
focus
on
consent
and
healthy
relationships.
J
Also,
my
life.
My
choice
provides
a
leading,
comprehensive
approach
to
end
sexual
exploitation
of
girls
and,
along
with
the
commission,
health
commission
works
in
partnership
with
35
member
organizations
on
the
support
to
end
exploitation
now
coalition,
that
was
created
by
the
children's
advocacy
center
in
2006.
J
Other
programs
within
the
division
of
violence
prevention
include
the
capacity
building
and
training
initiative.
Cbti
has
delivered
trauma,
training
to
over
6
000
providers
since
2013,
including
youth
workers,
those
who
so
those
serving
immigrant
and
refugee
communities
homeless
service
providers
and
to
those
in
pediatric
sex
settings
and
the
mayor's
office
of
immigrant
advancement.
J
Yet
another
program
is
start
strong
is
a
teen
dating
violence
prevention
program
with
youth-led
workshops
that
promote
healthy
relationships,
they've
trained
over
twenty
thousand
youth
and
seven
thousand
adults.
In
the
past
decade,
they've
also
developed
a
web
series
that
uses
storytelling
to
help
youth,
understand,
consent,
gender
sexuality
and
trauma,
and
that
is
the
halls
boston.com
together,
we
believe
effective
prevention
requires
an
understanding
of
the
interconnectedness
of
individuals,
their
relationships,
the
organizations
they
interact
with
and
their
various
communities
and
the
policies
that
impact
their
lived.
J
A
Thank
you,
anne
marie.
That
concludes
all
our
testimony
from
our
panel
I'd
like
to
open
pass
it
back
to
the
lead
sponsors
if
they
have
questions
or
first
of
all,
answer.
C
Edwards,
thank
you
councillor,
braden,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
who
spoke
today.
A
lot
of
what
I
heard
today
is
an
amazing
set
of
resources
and
the
analysis
that
goes
into
how
we
handle
specifically
the
perpetrators
and
I'm
going
to
use
intentionally
use
the
word
survivors
of
of
child
sexual
abuse,
and
so
thank
you
for
that
orientation.
C
I
think
part
of
this
conversation
is
about
how
we
one
and
that
stigma,
and
I
think
susan
said
it
wonderfully
it's
about
not
just
making
it
putting
on
the
shoulders
of
the
specific
survivor
and
making
it
so
that
it's
just
about
them
and
that
moment
and
what
happened
to
them.
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
provide
resources
to
hone
in
on
that
person,
but
part
of
this
conversation.
C
C
I've
had
neighbors
who
have
to
live
next
to
each
other
right.
You
go
back
to
the
church
at
some
point.
You
go
back
to
school
at
some
point
and
the
injury
isn't
just
re-triggering
for
the
survivor.
It
is.
Everyone
has
a
dark
cloud
around
them
because
they
know
what
happened
and
they
know
who
they
trusted
and
they
they
all
were
violated
in
some
space
they
performed.
So
part
of
this
conversation
is:
what
do
your
organizations
do
for
that?
Are
there
group
healings?
Are
there
community
resources
I'll?
C
Give
you
an
example
when
there's
a
shooting
there's
resources
from
the
police,
social
workers,
street
workers,
people
who
go
out
to
find
the
potential
perpetrator,
not
the
perpetrators,
but
prevent
the
retaliat
retaliation
from
those
who
are
angry
about
what
happened,
and
they
stick
around
to
try
and
help
heal
that
hot-headed
moment
and
to
deal
with
the
trauma
subsequently.
C
C
I'm
asking
you
what
goes
beyond
that,
though,
because
as
elected
officials
liz
myself
ed
mike,
we
hear
beyond
that,
and
that
that
is
that
I
feel
that
that
is,
and
I
could
be
wrong.
I
want
to
use
the
word
missing
if
it's,
if
it's
really
here
and
I'm
just
not
hearing
it,
but
when
a
scandal
broke
in
one
of
my
one
of
the
communities,
you
know
the
mayor
had
to
come
out
and
address
it.
Neighbors
had
to
deal
with
it
and
and
and
people
carry
this
with
them,
I
believe
in
generational
trauma.
C
A
I
I
can,
I
think
I
can
respond
a
little
bit.
I
don't
think
I
can
my
feeling
about
responding
to
your
questions.
Sort
of
mirrors,
my
feeling
when
a
community
is
feeling
what
you're
describing
because
the
experience
is
this
big
in
our
ability
to
be
responsive
is
not.
That
great
is
not
as
big,
but
I
think
what
I
would
say
is
that
what
we've
experienced
often
are
our
feelings
and
concerns
that
sort
of
go
in
in
two
very
important
directions.
I
One
frequently
when
there's
someone
in
a
position
of
trust
who
hurts
children
and
has
had
access
to
a
lot
of
children,
parents
naturally
and
understandably
worry
about
their
own
kids
yeah
and,
in
those
circumstances,
there's
almost
nothing.
We
can
offer
that
will
take
the
worry
away
completely
right,
but
we
have
had
sometimes
the
opportunity
to
have
a
community
forum
or
to
convene
parents
to
hear
about
their
most
pressing
questions
and
provide
them
some
really
kind
of
grounded
and
intuitive.
I
I
wouldn't
say
advice
because
these
are
things
they
already
know,
but
remind
them
of
the
ways
in
which
that
they
can
support
their
children
and
talk
with
their
children
to
check
in
with
them
about
their
safety
without
bearing
down
on
their
children,
to
ask
them
leading
questions
or
impose
a
worry
on
them
that
the
child
may
not
have
so.
We
do
have,
I
feel,
like
we
are
very
comfortable
talking
with
parents
and
communities
about
how
to
support
their
kids
in
the
face
of
that
kind
of
crisis.
I
I
That
is
a
different
process
of
healing,
and
I
think
it
takes
partnership
almost
in
in
responding
to
that,
because
we,
for
example,
can
come
in
as
professionals
and
offer
guidance
from
our
professional
standpoint.
But
sometimes
I
also
think
you
need
relationship
like
people
in
community
who
have
relationships
with
those
who
have
been
hurt
to
partner
with
us
to
strategize
about
the
best
ways
to
really
give
voice
to
that
hurt
and
talk
about
how
to
heal
it.
I
Nothing
nothing
like
I
said
when
I
started
responding,
nothing
as
that
feels
ideal
or
perfect,
but
I
think
by
even
asking
about
what
can
happen.
It's
a
big
step
because
or
very
typically
nothing
will
happen
or
nothing
organized
will
happen,
and
instead
every
everyone.
Every
agency
is
left
with
those
feelings
alone,
and
I
would
welcome
hearing
from
others
too.
C
Just
wanted
to
note
thank
you.
I
didn't
know
about
the
the
resources
you
can
provide
to
parents
which
I
do
believe
is
necessary.
I
think
we
also
just
acknowledge
parents
or
guardians
ptsd
that
they
go
through
upon
hearing
about
this,
whether
their
child
was
physically
assaulted
or
not
ptsd
is
you
know
it
doesn't?
It
can
be
brought
on
from
knowing
how
close
your
child's
physical
safety
was?
Potentially,
you
know
threatened
by
seeing
you
know
that
a
car
just
missed
your
child
right
and
they
didn't.
C
They
didn't
hit
them
in
the
street,
but
you
saw
how
close
it
was
to
to
losing
your
child.
Ptsd
then
could
result
in
you
not
wanting
your
kid
to
go
outside
by
yourself,
never
allowed
to
cross
the
street
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
bring
that
into
the
room
and
hopefully
by
bringing
it
into
the
room.
We
start
to
think
as
a
collective
and
I
believe,
we're
all
partners
in
this.
C
C
The
forum
will
be
to
this
day.
There
will
be
prolonged
mental
health
services
for
ptsd
you
knowing
what
the
signs
of
ptsd
are
in
the
community
and
then
prolonged
conversations
on
community
healing
and
being
able
to
raise
healthy
kids.
Something
like
that,
like
a.
How
do
we
for
as
long
as
this
community
feels
this
pain,
and
you
know
you
think
about
that
with
the
church.
C
A
Thank
you
councillor,
flaherty,
did
you
have
any
comments
or
questions
yeah.
B
Just
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
three
brief
questions
like
until
the
entire
panel
or
one
on
the
panel
just
are
there?
Are
there
any
prominent
parts
of
the
process
that
you
believe
are
particularly
outdated
or
problematic
or
in
need
of
reform?
And
if
so,
how
can
we
work
together
to
to
bring
about
that
change?
That's
the
first
one.
B
Second
one
is,
I
guess,
have
the
organizations
that
are
present
transition
their
operation
to
to
virtual,
and
how
are
we
working
to
protect
their
children
when
they
are
now
spending
more
time
at
home,
away
from
mandated
reporters
and
additionally,
while
they're
spending
more
time
on
the
computer
and
the
internet
and
all
the
creeps
that
and
predators
that
are
in
in
that
space?
B
I
guess
how
we
training
our
educators
and
non-profits
to
identify
those
signs
of
virtual
online
abuse
and,
lastly,
for
those
that
are
non-panel,
but
folks
that
are
listening
or
tuned
in
if
they're,
watching
the
hearing
and
if
there's
a
question
that
they
have,
that
hasn't
been
answered
or
if
they
don't
feel
comfortable
asking
the
question
or
they
want
to
remain
anonymous,
then
feel
free
to
sort
of
private
message
me
on
the
chat
and
I'm
happy
to
ask
it
towards
the
end
of
the
hearing.
So
that's
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
F
So
we
used
to
do
it
by
way
of
in-person
hearings
both
in
the
communities
and
also
in
the
houses
of
corrections
and
at
the
doc.
But
as
a
result
of
covet,
we've
we've
transferred
the
entire
process.
It
wasn't
easy,
but
we've
transferred
the
entire
process
to
a
virtual
platform.
H
Okay
and
that's
the
same
thing
for
our
contact
with
victim
survivors
and
their
families,.
A
It's
all
done,
it's
all
done
virtually
at
this
point
in
time,
yeah
and
I'm
just
going
to
follow
up
then
in
terms
of
a
physical
exam.
This
might
be
back
over
to
susan
in
in
the
time
of
colvin
like
if
a
young
person
needs
to
have
a
physical
exam
and
a
proper
forensic
process
is
that's
that
you
said
that
still
happens
in
the
in
the
midst
of
colvin.
A
I
So,
in
addition
to
all
of
our
services
going
becoming
virtual,
our
pediatric
sexual
assault
nurse
examiner,
does
come
on
site
in
emergencies
or
acute
situations
or
when
it's
necessary
and
she's.
You
know
she's
got
ppe,
the
full,
the
full
gear,
so
we
she
is
still
available,
and
that
is
still
happening.
I
I
will
say
too
that,
as
far
as
the
remote
there's
been
a
lot
of
concern
about
kids,
not
having
access
to
trusted
adults
and
not
having
the
ability
to
let
someone
know
that
they're
being
hurt-
and
that
was
an
immediate
concern
at
the
time
that
we
all
started
staying
home
very
early
on,
we
started
developing
training.
I
We
did
a
training
with
the
boston
public
schools
before
in
june
before
the
last
school
year,
ended
specifically
around
strategies
for
connecting
with
kids
virtually
to
be
able
to
check
in
around
their
safety
and
make
sure
that
connections
that
otherwise
would
have
happened
in
person
could
could
attempt
to
be
maintained.
You
know
virtually
to
to
make
sure
the
kids
were
okay
and
recognize
when
they're
being
hurt,
and
just
the
last
thing
you
mentioned.
Counselor
flaherty
was
about
online
safety.
I
The
reports
of
kids,
exchanging
indecent
images
and
just
online
risks
have
increased
exponentially
with
the
incredibly
increased
amount
of
time
that
kids
are
spending
online
while
we're
all
at
home,
and
so
we
work
with
the
district
attorney's
office
to
deliver
a
program
called
stop
block
and
talk,
which
is
an
online
safety
curriculum.
I
It's
delivered
to
parents,
it's
delivered
to
professionals,
it's
delivered
directly
to
kids
in
schools,
and
it
the
demand
for
that
and
the
need
for
that
has
blown
up
in
the
last
several
months
and
it
there's
it's
being
delivered
monday
night.
It
was
being
delivered.
Yes,
yesterday
I
think
in
a
school
it's
available.
It's
now
available
virtually
and
there's
a
great
need
for
that
kind
of
training.
So
we
do
welcome
inquiries
about
that
and
have
are
really
trying
to
meet
every
request.
That
can
be
right
now
to
deliver
that
information.
I
A
D
I
have
a
few,
so
I'm
just
curious
about
you
know.
The
studies
show
that
the
lgbtq
youth
are
more
likely
to
experience
patterns
of
abuse
and
how
are
we
carrying
our
services
specifically
to
accommodate
lgbtq
and
gender
non-conforming
adolescents?
I'm
also
curious
about
how
are
we
preparing
and
training
families
for
survivors
to
understand
how
to
accommodate
someone's
emotional
needs?
D
D
That's
not
something
that
we
see
and
I'm
thinking,
particularly
in
the
latino
community,
where,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
just
often
slip
it
under
the
rug
and
then
I'm
also
curious,
as
well
as
to
whether
or
not
you're
able
to
do
outreach
in
multiple
languages
and
what
what?
What
kind
of
how
that
outreach
looks
like
in
different
languages
and
also
more
culturally
responsive
to
those
individual
needs.
D
And
then,
lastly-
and
maybe
I
don't
even
know
if
this
fits
here-
but
it's
just
worth
asking-
is
that
in
certain
communities
that
people
you
know
as
young
as
13
years
old
are
dating
or
or
entering
sexual
relations
with
men
as
old
as
20,
and
while
they
that
might
not
be
considered
sexual
abuse
in
in
certain
countries.
D
I
think
it
very
much
is
considered
sexual
abuse
in
this
country
and
I'm
just
curious
about
how
how
that
is
handled
within
your
departments
and
what
that
looks
like.
And
if
this,
that,
if
that
does
not
fit
within
this
conversation,
that
we're
having
we
could.
We
don't
need
to
answer,
but
I'm
just
curious.
E
I
So
many
questions,
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
actually
going
to
be
able
to
answer
them
all.
I
can
say
for
our
team-
and
it's
always
our
preference
to
interview
children
in
their
primary
language,
and
so
our
forensic
interviews
are
conducted
in
both
english
and
spanish.
I
But
unfortunately,
if
a
child
speaks
another
language,
we
do
use
interpreters,
we're
not
able
to
interview
them
in
their
own
language,
because
we
don't
have
trained
interviewers
in
every
language,
we're
a
tiny
team
of
six
clinicians
that
includes
six
clinicians,
three
of
whom
are
spanish
and
english
speaking,
and
the
demand
for
clinical
services
in
spanish
and
for
latinx
families
has
been
enormous
and
we
would
love
nothing
more
than
to
grow
our
mental
health
team
to
be
able
to
offer
more
diverse
staff
and
more
linguistic
capacity.
I
We're
just
stretched
to
the
maximum
and
our
team,
I
think
is
I
mean
if
you
had
asked
us
this.
Five
years
ago,
we
had
one
spanish-speaking
clinician
and
now
with
the
team
that
includes
more
they're,
they
are
striving.
We
are
striving
to
talk
with
the
youth
and
their
families
to
unders
to
deeply
understand
their
experience
of
what's
going
on
and
to
meet
them
where
they're
coming
at
this.
I
So
with
your
example
of
a
13
year
old
and
a
20
year
old,
we
want
to
respect
the
family's
perspective,
but
we
also
bring
in
our
perspective
of
where
that
13
year
old
is
developmentally
and
the
protection
they
deserve.
So
I
would
say,
we're
we're.
You
know
it's
a
continuous
process
of
of
becoming
better
at
navigating
these
differences,
but
they're
vitally
important
susan.
D
Could
I
ask
a
follow-up
before
you
answer
the
rest
of
the
questions
in
regards
to
the
13
to
20
year
old
scenario,
and-
and
I
understand
in
terms
of
the
culture
that
in
certain
countries
that
is
more
acceptable.
D
I
I
don't
know
if
I
would
so
I'm
not
going
to
use
the
word
push,
but
I
would
say:
there's
clarity.
I
mean
13
and
20
is
a
very
13
there's
a
lot
of
clarity
about
13
and
20..
I
think
where
things
get
more
challenging
or
13
and
16
or
13
and
17
and
I'll
speak
for
myself.
As
someone
in
this
work,
I'm
not
going
to
project
my
own.
My
own
valuable
law
is
clear.
I
The
law
is
clear,
that
that
would
not
be
legal,
but
I
think
coming
and
I'll
speak
again
for
the
cac,
not
speaking
for
the
district
attorney's
office
per
se.
Of
course
we
come
at
this
from
elite
through
a
legal
lens,
but
we
also
have
to
come
at
it
from
a
lens,
a
lens
which
respects
the
experience
of
the
the
everyone
involved.
13
and
20,
though
big
difference,
not
okay,
and
that
will
be
communicated.
I
A
You
and
and
move
on
to
our
next
counselor
sami
george.
Do
you
have
any
questions.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
lead
sponsors
of
this
hearing.
It's
certainly
fascinating.
As
a
former
classroom
teacher,
I
do
worry
about,
and
counselor
flaherty
alluded
to
it
or
mentioned
it
directly.
Actually,
I
do
worry
about
when
children
are
home
so
much
and
learning
remotely
and
have
access
to
devices,
and
you
know
where
all
every
young
person
is
looking
for
a
spot
to
sort
of
hide
in
their
house,
so
they
can
participate
in
remote
learning.
G
It
has
certainly
increased
the
risk
and
the
exposure
that
our
kids
are
now
experiencing,
and
I
think
susan
mentioned
the
stop.
Talk,
block
talk,
effort
both
to
inform
and
educate
parents
and
kids
and
community
and
educators
all
this
stuff.
Have
you
seen
a
an
increase?
G
Anyone
in
in
cases
in
the
severity
of
cases
around
sexual
assault,
and
perhaps
two
I
would
imagine,
because
of
isolation
and
the
added
risk,
especially
with
technology
in
particular,
access
detects.
So
much
technology,
perhaps
prolonged.
G
Prolonged
trauma
and
prolonged,
maybe
emotional,
abuse
because
of
a
previous
sexual
trauma.
I
Okay,
I
can
speak
again
briefly.
I
really
you
know
it's
during
this
time
when
each
of
us
is
experiencing
our
own
stresses.
Sometimes
it's
hard
to
know
if
what
we're
experiencing
is
similar
to
what
we
used
or
if
it's
different,
but
what
I'm
hearing
from
our
team
is
that
families
that
our
meetings
and
visits
with
families
when
they
come
in
are
just
they're
really
intense.
I
I
think
the
the
impact
of
isolation,
the
the
responding
to
the
abuse,
a
parent
having
to
rally
in
the
midst
of
all
this,
to
support
a
child.
There
is
a
real
intensity,
that's
being
experienced
and
when
you
pair
that
with
other
needs
that
families
are
having
related
to
food
and
housing
and
security,
I
mean
it's
there's
it's
a
lot
and
I
I
do
think
it
is.
It's
reinforcing
the
need
for
us
to
all
of
us
to
need
to
be
able
to
have
services
readily
available.
I
That
can
support
families,
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
require
a
longer
period
of
being
involved
with
services,
it's
hard
to
say,
but
there
is
definitely
an
intensity,
and
I
also
I
mean
we,
it's
almost
incredible
to
me
that
when
it's
so
hard
for
a
child
to
come
forward
in
the
circumstances,
in
the
isolation
that
we're
now
experiencing
that
when
a
kid,
when
a
young
person
does
find
a
way
to
make
a
report
we
are
hearing
about,
you
know
serious,
sustained,
ongoing
abuse
and
it's
troubling.
H
I
would
add
to
that
too,
that
we
we've
also
been
seeing
that
degree
of
intensity.
You
know
elevating
with
what's
going
on
with
the
pandemic,
and
I
think
you
know
for
sexual
assault
survivors
that
power,
that
feeling
of
powerless
powerlessness
and
not
having
control
over
so
many
things
in
their
lives.
H
You
know
the
impact
on
their
jobs
impact
on
their
kids,
schooling,
that
all
of
that
is
just
exacerbating
all
of
the
trauma
that
they
experience
and
it's
you
know
people
are
really
expressing
they're
having
a
hard
time
gaining
mastery
over
their
day-to-day
lives,
with
all
of
these
things
being
prolonged
into
the
future,
no
with
no
end
in
sight,
there's
hope
with
the
vaccine,
but
people
know
this
is
gonna.
This
is
gonna
continue
for
a
period
of
time.
H
G
Let
me
ask
you
a
quick
just
a
quick
follow-up
question.
You
know
the
silver
lining
and
the
benefit
of
technology
are
services
able
to
be
delivered
in
support
virtually.
G
I
It's
it's
a
real
silver
lining
in
some
ways
it's
increased
access
for
lots
of
families,
and
I
think
it's
something
we're
going
to
continue
to
do.
You
know
on
an
ongoing
basis
when
we
are
still
at
when
we're
able
to
see
families
in
person,
we're
also
going
to
continue
to
see
them
virtually
it's.
It's
been
really
helpful.
A
Counselor
flynn,
I'm
sorry
I
I
seem
to
have
skipped
you
in
the
first
just
before.
Do
you
have
any
questions.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
braden,
thank
you
to
the
panelists
and
I
failed
to
mention.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
the
family
justice
center,
a
while
back
with
council
campbell,
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
excellent
work
the
staff
does
this
so
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
and
then
a
second.
The
second
point
was:
I
was
a
probation
officer
at
suffolk,
superior
court
for
10
years
prior
to
being
on
the
council,
and
I
interacted
frequently
with
a
lot
of
convicted
sex
offenders
that
I
supervised.
E
But
I'm
I'm
wondering
I
guess
my
question
is
for
for
young
young
students
that
that
have
seen
sexual
sexual
assault,
so
I've
been
a
victim
of
sexual
assaults
in
their
home
or
I've
seen
their
one
of
their
parents
engage
in
it.
What
type
of
services
or
education
or
even
philosophy,
do
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
teach
we?
E
A
K
Please
go
ahead.
That's
okay
and
I
I
work
at
the
boston
area,
rape,
crisis
center.
So
our
perspective
is
a
little
bit
different.
We
do
provide
services,
but
over
the
last
10
15
years
we
have
sort
of
switched
our
framework
to
the
prevention
work
because
we
know
services
are
critical,
but
in
order
to
win
sexual
violence
we
have
to
prevent
it.
And
how
do
we
prevent
it
by
doing
a
lot
of
things
that
you
were
asking
comprehensive
sex?
K
Ed
is
the
key
there's
so
many
reasons
so
much
research,
pediatrics,
ob,
gyns,
education,
anyone
that
you
ask-
and
they
will
say,
comprehensive
sex
ed,
because
that
will
prevent
sexual
violence
in
the
sense
that
you're
teaching
young
kids,
the
tools
of
what
a
healthy
relationship
is
and
what
is
not
so
they
will
not
cross
boundaries.
You
teach
others
the
boundaries,
you
teach
consent.
K
K
So
it's
up
to
many
of
us
to
do
the
prevention
work,
it's
up
to
providers
to
do
comprehensive
sex
ed,
but
until
we
have
people
like
you
until
we
have
deci
until
we
have
the
commitment
from
the
state
to
say,
we
are
going
to
take
action
to
teach
boundaries,
to
teach
healthy
relations
to
to
say
what
is
okay
and
what
is
not
we're
not
going
to
get
there.
So
we're
with
you
or
I'm
with
you.
K
Bark
is
with
you
that
we
need
the
support
from
many
other
organizations
because
soar
cac
the
da's
office.
We
are
at
the
end
of
the
services
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
be
like
and
what
we
do.
We
want
our
insecure
models,
but
we
can't
until
the
tools
are
given
for
other
lessons
in
the
youth.
H
H
The
purpose
of
that
information
is
to
help
people
be
informed
of
offenders
that
may
harm
you
or
your
children
as
we
know
that
access
provides
way
for
opportunity,
and
so
we
encourage
people
to
use
that
information
to
be
able
to
protect
themselves.
The
second
thing
is
the
massachusetts
legislative
task
force
on
child
sexual
abuse.
Prevention
just
launched
a
website
called
safe,
kids
thrive
that
has
it's
geared
towards
for
people
that
work
or
volunteer
or
a
recipient
of
services
in
youth
serving
organizations,
and
they
help.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both
katya.
It
seems
like
a
really
appropriate
time
to
bring
you
into
the
conversation.
I
should
have
brought
you
in
right
because
we
had
a.
We
had
a
small.
We
had
two
panels
and
now
we've
got
the
makings
of
one
large
panel.
So
please
would
you
like
to
make
your
presentation
and
then
we'll
do
a
second
round
of
questions.
K
That'll
be
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
the
invitation.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
work
that
us
councils
are
doing
in
cac.
K
So
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
park
at
the
boston
area
crisis
center.
Our
mission
is
to
end
sexual
violence
through
healing
and
social
change.
Our
expertise
in
sexual
violence,
prevention
response
and
education
is
based
on
nearly
50
years
of
work
with
survivors
and
their
families.
K
K
We
work
with
survivors
of
all
genders
from
their
immediate
crisis
to
years
and
decades
later
after
the
assault
occur.
This
includes
survivors
of
child
abuse,
who
often
do
not
disclose
or
seek
support
for
many
years.
Our
goal
is
to
empower
survivors
to
heal
and
seek
justice
in
ways
that
are
meaningful
to
them.
K
A
web
chat,
park.org
backslash
chat,
24
7
medical
advocacy,
which
includes
support
at
the
hospitals.
When
a
survivor
is
there
for
a
sexual
assault,
exam
and
evidence
collection
kid
we
are
still
providing
virtual
visits
and
support
for
saints
during
the
pandemic.
So
survivors
requiring
an
evidence
coalition,
kid
will
still
have
access
to
a
medical
advocate.
K
We
also
provide
case
management
assistance
with
housing,
health
care,
financial
challenges
and
more
we,
you
can't
focus
on
healing
when
you're
worried
about
keeping
a
roof
over
your
head
or
finding
money
to
buy
groceries.
This
program
is
even
more
vital.
Now
that
we
have
ever
seen,
we
have
seen
an
81
percent
increase
of
requests
for
housing
since
the
pandemic
started
in
safe
and
secure
housing
is
prevention
of
sexual
violence.
K
We
also
do
legal
advocacy
through
which
we
help
survivors
understand
their
legal
rights
and
options.
We
assist
them
as
a
they
navigate
the
civil
and
criminal
legal
system,
as
well
as
workplace,
police
policies
and
campus
processes.
We
know
the
criminal
legal
system
is
not
the
answer
for
everyone,
but
if
they
need
it,
we
will
support
them
in
that
process.
K
K
K
We
also
pursue
change
through
the
legislative
and
policy
advocacy
and
over
the
last
15
years
as
a
rape
crisis
center.
We
have
increased
and
really
honed
our
prevention
war,
because
we
understand
that
it's
vital
for
healing
communities
and
truly
ending
sexual
violence
to
address
sexual
violence
as
a
public
health
crisis.
So
we
want
to
be
immersed
in
the
community
and
we
do
provide
community
response
after
incidents
occur,
healing
and
building
trust
after
child
sexual
abuse
requires
a
holistic
approach
in
the
communities
that
we
live
and
work
in.
It
requires
partnerships
and
collaborations.
K
K
Without
these,
a
community
will
be
sending
the
harmful
messages
that
survivors
should
stay
in
silence
and
feel
ashamed
of
what
was
done
to
them.
Silence
and
lack
of
information
is
part
of
what
leads
to
the
perpetrators
inflicting
harm
on
others,
and
it's
really
important
to
understand
that.
It's
not
it's,
not
something
that
victims
look
for.
It's
like
it's
something
that
is
done
to
them.
It's
harm
that
was
done
from
one
person
to
another.
K
Cultivating
open
dialogue
about
sexual
health
and
consent
can
also
increase
the
likelihood
of
youth
survivors
reaching
out
for
support.
We
know
that
suicidal
and
depressive
thoughts
can
significantly
increase
after
a
sexual
assault
reign.
A
national
organization
reported
that
over
approximately
70
percent
of
rape
or
sexual
assault,
victims
experienced
moderate
to
severe
distress
and
a
lot
is
a
larger
percentage
than
any
other
violent
crime.
K
Sexual
violence
is
significant
and
directs
impact
on
the
communities
we
live
in
and
the
communities
and
is
a
community's
responsibility
to
take
a
step
to
prevent
it.
Often,
communities
providers
and
policy
makers
focus
on
addressing
how
to
provide
services
without
focusing
on
preventing
the
behavior
services
are
crucial
for
survivors.
K
They
help
survivors
and
communities
to
better
respond
after
the
harm
was
done
to
them,
and
it
is
time
for
holistic
support
and
services
to
consistently
include
prevention
efforts.
One
of
the
prevention
efforts
I
mentioned
was
the
healthy
use
act.
We
need
to
take
action,
we
need
to
educate,
we
need
to
provide
tools
and
we
need
to
provide
information
and
that's
when
we're
going
to
start
taking
a
significant
steps
towards
sexual
violence
and
support
survivors.
A
Much
thank
you
katya.
I
understand
we
have
someone
waiting
to
make
public
testimony.
Can
we
can
we,
let's
see
who
it
is?
A
L
Council
of
flaherty
council
edwards.
Thank
you
so
much
for
getting
this
on
the
docket,
it's
so
very
important
and
unfortunately
I
had
to
be
one
of
those
parents
that
their
son
was
a
victim.
So
about
eight
years
ago
he
was
exploited
in
a
sex
chat
by
a
neighbor
in
a
in
a
in
a
long
time
community.
L
At
the
time
we
thought
upstanding
person
dad
husband,
etc,
and
he
wasn't
so.
We
went
through
the
whole
process
of
crimes
against
children,
sex
offender
registry
involved,
who
I
tell
you
judy
norton
she's
amazing.
She
helped
me
deal
and
heal
somewhat
through
my
experience
and
I
just
the
reason:
why
is
my
perpetrator
pled
guilty
to
four
counts
of
child
pornography
and
was
sentenced
to
five
years
probation
with
a
gps
and
lived
at
the
bottom
of
my
street?
L
For
all
of
that
five
years,
where
I
had
to
go
by
the
home-
and
you
know,
and
now
he's
gone,
thankfully,
but
and
he
was
a
level
two
sex
offender
which
made
me
as
a
mom
happy
because
I
knew
where
he
was
and
then
I
get
a
email
or
a
call.
I
forget
from
judy
norton
saying
he
appealed
to
the
supreme
judicial
court
for
reclassification
and
won.
So
the
thing
from
me
is,
you
know,
I'm
still
healing
through
it.
L
You
know
he's
my
son's
older
now,
but
I
worry
about
all
the
other
children
in
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts,
and
so
I
think
it's
more
conversation
on
the
laws
that
only
can
go
through
the
state
house
and
the
state
of
massachusetts
for
these
sex
offenders.
So
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
this
panel
because
I
think
it's
so
important,
especially
these
days,
especially
with
covid.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
and
hope
that
somehow
we
can
change
laws
to
help
the
kids
of
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts.
A
A
Someone
can
answer
this
when
you
have
a
child
who
was
abused
when
they
were
pre-verbal
very
often
they're
not
able
to
articulate
what
happened
to
them,
but
they
do
know
that
there's
something
a
mess
with
themselves
and
sometimes
they
don't
realize
that
they
know
something's
wrong,
but
they
can't
articulate
it
and
maybe
years
later,
when
they're
adults
or
teenagers
or
something
that
this
sort
of
becomes
unmasked,
and
they
realize
that
this
is
something
that
happened
back
then.
A
I
That's
very
hard.
I
I
think,
if
there's
a
concern
that
a
child
who's,
either
pre-verbal
or
too
young
to
have
a
an
interview
has
been
hurt.
I
think
that's
when
we
rely
on
others,
whether
it's
police,
detectives
or
social
workers
to
you
know
be
able
to
establish
information
so
that
we
know
what
might
have
happened
to
them.
I
mean
it's
always
I
mean.
I
Isn't
it
always
a
shame
that
we
have
to
rely
on
kids
to
tell
us
about
their
experience,
that
we
have
to
wait
for
them
to
disclose
and
then
give
us
the
details
I
wish
in
a
better
world,
the
burden
would
lie
elsewhere.
It
would
either
lie
on
adults,
finding
information
and
evidence,
or
just
some
other
way,
to
confirm
that
a
child's
been
hurt
when
kids
are
pre-verbal,
it's
really
really
hard
and
I
think
it
does
turn
into
more
of
an
investigation.
I
As
far
as
determining
what
may
have
happened
in
terms
of
healing
I
mean
I
would,
I
would
invite
others
here
too,
to
chime
in
on
this.
I
would
imagine
that
that
is
different
for
different
individuals
and
could
be
a
lifelong
process
of
understanding
one's
experience
and
what
the
source
of
it
is
and
coping
with
it
and
coming
to
terms
with
it
very,
very
difficult.
A
This
is,
this
is
a
difficult
subject,
a
sensitive
subject,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
work.
I
think
contra
mejia
indicated
that
she
had
some
more
questions.
I
will
as
anyone
else
if
anyone
else
got
pressing
question.
I'd
like
to
swing
back
to
council
me,
councillor,
edwards,
here
the
lead
sponsor
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
consumer
here.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
I
wanted
to
first
thank
kathy
for
her
leadership
and
her
I
mean
that
was
it's
hard
as
a
parent
to
admit
that
happened,
and
I
think
she
represents
a
lot
more
people
in
our
city
and
our
state
than
we
we
care
to
admit
and
so
kathy.
Today
you
gave
a
lot
of
people
a
voice
through
your
bravery.
C
I,
and
through
your
own
reaction
to
this,
and
I
I
just
I
don't
I'm
not
a
parent,
but
I
can't
imagine
those
of
us
who
are
how
how
much,
especially
those
who've
gone
through,
what
you've
gone
through,
how
seen
they
feel
right
now
by
the
city
council
by
by
a
lot
of
these
agencies
and
also
being
on
the
other
end
of
receiving
the
notice
that
you
will
no
longer
know
where
the
person
is,
who
who
hurt
your
child
or
wanted
to
hurt
your
child,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
that
we
carry
that
to
the
state
house
to
understand
the
impacts
of
some
of
the
laws
that
they're
pressing
that
judy
and
other
folks
absorb
have
to
enforce.
C
And-
and
I
again
I
wanted
to
thank
them
for
that.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
So
to
katya.
The
question
is
so
for
the
other
parents
like
kathy
for
the
larger
community,
who
are
now
either
in
ptsd
or
dealing
with
the
reverberating
effects,
who
might
be
living
down
the
street
from
what
services
does
bark
provide.
K
Absolutely-
and
we
do
a
lot
like
so
in
the
series
we
can
do-
individual
counseling
so
kathy
will
qualify
for
free
confidential
services
as
a
parent
of
a
survivor
or
a
parent
of
a
sexual
assault,
survivor
survivor,
so
we
will
be
able
to
do
individual
counseling
for
her
for
her
son.
We
could
do
group
counseling
for
her.
We
run
different
groups
throughout
the
year.
K
K
We
will
be
able
to
help
them
navigate
with
any
process
if
they
wanted
to
do
any
civil
suits
to
the
church
or
if
it
was
a
coach
like
so
we
will
be
able
to
provide
civil
services
by
attorneys
at
the
at
the
office
and
they
will
give
them
more
information.
We
could
also
add
their
requests.
We
could
come
into
the
community
and
have
a
conversation
and
we
could
try
to
hold
a
group
in
the
community,
a
community
response
conversation.
K
K
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
really
trying
to
do,
especially
with
the
cops
team,
is
to
do
a
lot
of
bystander
intervention
and
bystander
intervention
doesn't
mean
that
it
has
to
be
as
a
direct
result
of
an
incident
based
on
responses
that
we
all
have
towards
someone
who's
disclosed
in
a
friend
of
ours
who
came
to
us
like.
Oh,
I
just
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
something
that
happened
to
me
20
years
ago.
That
is
done,
but
I
just
want
to
disclose.
K
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
know
I
asked
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
only
got
probably
like
one
answer,
because
I
went
on
and
on
and
on
so
sorry
about
that.
But
I
would
like
to
know
a
few
things.
One
is
around
the
lgbtq
support
services.
D
And
then
the
last
question
is
around
counselor
edwards
was
talking
about
the
you
know,
the
passed
on
trauma
trauma
that
exists
and
I'm
just
curious
about
oftentimes
parents.
Do
those
parents
to
experience
their
own
experience
with
childhood
sexual
abuse,
then
pass
it
on
to
their
children
in
terms
of
by
being
overly
sensitive
about
certain
things,
and
so
what
type
of
counseling
and
third
welcome?
D
What
kind
of
resources
do
you
offer
families
so
that
things
that
they
may
be
not
creating
scenarios
in
their
heads
about
some
of
the
things
that,
if
their
child
is
displaying
certain
things
that
they
don't
automatically
assume
that
it's
something
bad
it's
just
might
be
just
kids
acting
the
way
that
they
do
like?
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
type
of
support
services
are
for
for
families
like
that.
K
That's
a
lot:
no,
that's!
Okay!
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
hone
in.
In
one
part,
I
was
born
and
raised
in
puerto
rico.
I
came
to
this
country
or
united
states
for
school,
and
I
stay
so
working
with
the
latino
communities.
K
Spanish
is
my
first
language
working
with
the
latino
community
is
my
thing
like
this
is
my
passion
and
since
I
started
doing
a
lot
of
the
prevention
work
and
the
policy
side,
that
has
been
something
they
have
been
pushing
a
lot
because
of
the
amount
of
trauma
the
the
latino
community
experience
back
in
their
countries
in
the
process
of
coming
here.
K
The
historical
trauma
when
I
think
about
prevention
and
when
I
think
about
sexual
violence
and
what
I
know
now
is
not
what
I
knew
back
in
my
early
years,
because
that's
not
how
I
was
talked
back
home
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
it
was
so
critical
is
that
it
wasn't
talk,
because
so
many
people
experience
sexual
violence
in
in
latino
communities.
K
The
rates
of
sexual
violence
in
latino
communities
is
sky
high
and
they
kept
it
secret
and
they
passed
some
of
the
behavior,
and
for
me,
it's
like
it's
not
that
they
don't
want
to
talk
about.
It
is
that
they
might
not
know
what
happened
to
them.
They're
coming
to
terms
they're
dealing
with
the
trauma
they're
dealing
with
the
ptsd
so
addressing
it
with
their
children,
they
might
not
have
the
tools.
K
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do,
especially
with
the
healthy
news
coalition
is
to
get
into
the
gateway
studies,
is
to
do
curriculum
for
parents
of
the
latino
community.
So
we
can
start
teaching
the
latino
community.
That
behavior
is
not
okay,
it's
not
okay,
back
home
is
not
okay
here
and
we're
going
to
give
you
the
tools
on
how
to
address
it
and
that
will
most
likely
have
to
include
counseling
for
the
parents,
because
they
experience
years
and
years
of
trauma.
K
K
We
have
spanish-speaking
clinicians.
We
have
bicultural
and
bilingual
clinicians,
so
it's
not
just
bilingual
work.
It's
by
cultural
work.
It's
people
that
have
lived
experiences.
They
grew
up
outside
united
states.
They
grew
up
in
those
communities.
So
we're
trying
to
do
that
as
much
as
we
can
and
especially
with
the
lgbtq2
community.
K
They
have
been
so
many
misconceptions,
so
so
much
misinformation
and
so
much
closure
for
them
to
be
welcome.
So
we
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
trainings.
K
We
do
groups,
so
all
of
our
services
are
comprehensive
and
they
include
the
different
communities,
but
the
rates
of
sexual
violence,
especially
in
the
use
on
the
lgbtq
community,
is
significant
and
then
the
latino
communities,
so
we're
two
things
that
we're
really
trying
really
hard
to
address.
K
A
You
know
the
the
focus
of
the
conversation
was
about
healing
and
trust
building
for
child
sexual
abuse.
I
just
want
to
round
back
and
and
think
about.
Perhaps
you
know
laying
down
some
some
must-haves
in
terms
of
how
we
get
there
and
like
a
roadmap,
a
roadmap
for
communities
to
to
help
that
healing
process.
You
know,
let's,
let's
throw
it.
A
I
think
your
suggestions
about
really
good
sex
ed
is
is
a
really
good
start,
but
the
other
thing
about
healing
the
harm
after
it's
happened
like
there's
a
whole
intergenerational,
there's
a
whole
intergenerational
generational
trauma
that
happens
like
very
often
parents.
Grandparents
were
victims
of
sexual
abuse
themselves,
so
when
it
comes
to
their
children
or
grandchildren,
it's
the
whole
thing
just
kicks
off
again
and
in
bygone
days
it
was
like
not
talked
about
so
and
now
in
this
time.
A
The
way
we
get
to
healing
is
to
talk
it
out,
take
it
out
and
look
at
it
in
daylight
and
and
talk
about
it,
but
for
many
cultures
and
families,
that's
not
the
way
it
was
done
in
the
past.
So
I'd
just
like
to
give
it
back
to
counselor
edwards,
perhaps
to
we
have
about
20
minutes
left
we're
not.
A
We
can
talk
for
as
long
as
we
want,
but
we
have
a
sort
of
four
o'clock
target
and
I
just
want
to
wrap
up
the
conversation
and
make
sure
that
the
lead
sponsors
are
satisfied
that
we
have
addressed
all
the
issues
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
this
afternoon.
C
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
braden.
We
certainly
have
addressed
that
and
then
some
I'm.
I
am
very,
very,
very
encouraged
by
the
people
who
came
and
testified
today
and
the
services
that
are
happening,
but,
most
importantly,
I'm
encouraged
by
their
own
words
about
how
this
was
a
long
overdue
conversation.
It
needs
to
happen
again.
C
So
the
first
thing
I
would
like
is
for
the
the
chair
to
consider
keeping
this
in
committee
so
that
we
can
have
this
either
on
a
quarterly
basis,
or
at
least
once
a
year
conversation
as
we
talk
about
our
budget
as
we
talk
about
all
everything
else
on
a
regular
basis
that
is
in
our
forefront
and
mind.
This
should
be
there
too.
So
I'd
like
to
ask
for
that
commitment,
and
then
I
I
hope
that,
in
terms
of
your
timeline
and
building
blocks,
there's
there's
different
ways
to
go
here.
C
One
was
the
legislative
process
and
the
ideas
around
what
we
can
support
at
the
state
house
and
kathy
will
certainly
be
part
of
helping
to
lead
that
way.
There
too,
and
then
there's
also
informing
communities
about
resources
we
have
and
then
learning
from
barc
and
other
community
based
resources.
What
money
you
need
to
expand
the
resources
that
you
have
because
hearing
that
we
need
to
even
get
more
resources
for
the
latino
community.
C
I
can
imagine
it's
the
same
for
the
haitian
community
or
for
the
vietnamese
community
or,
for
you
know,
new
immigrants
from
wherever
they
are
another.
I
mean
there's,
there's
levels
right,
and
so
how
do
we
expand
those
things
as
well?
I
think
the
same
trauma
the
same
understanding
of
how
to
work
with
police.
These
are
all
barriers
that
we
face
when
we
come
to
a
new
community
or
country.
Even
so,
thank
you
all
so
much.
I
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation
and
building
on
the
resources
that
we
have.
H
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing
I
was
remiss
I'm
not
mentioning.
We
have
a
wonderful
partnership
with
the
boston
police
department's
sex
offender
registry
unit
and
they've
been
a
great
resource
for
victim
survivors
and
families.
When
ever
there's
been
an
issue
of
concern,
you
know
a
safety
issue
or
something
happening
any
anytime.
We've
ever
contacted
them
to
address
that
they're
very
responsive
and
take
action
very
quickly
and
are
very
good
on
the
communication,
and
we
really
really
appreciate
and
value
that
partnership
with
them.
J
And
if
I
might
also
add
the
the
family
justice
center
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
that
framework,
the
the
boston
police,
family,
justice
group,
so
the
four
units
of
detectives
crimes
against
children,
domestic
violence,
sexual
assault,
human
trafficking
are
all
headquartered
at
the
fjc
and
have
opportunities
back
and
forth
with
other
community
partners
that
we
didn't
mention
today.
But
the
massachusetts
alliance
of
portuguese
speakers,
the
the
the
asian
task
force
and
the
association
of
haitian
women
and
the
collaborations
that
have
gone
on
as
one
example.
J
I'm
thinking,
one
that
the
alliance,
portuguese
speakers,
along
with
children's
advocacy
some
time
ago,
put
together
a
in
in
targeting
communities
where,
whether
it's
under
reporting
or
specific
communities,
parents,
clergy
or
otherwise,
who
are
looking
for
understanding
the
signs
response
long
term,
you
know
sort
of
immediate
short
term
and
long
term.
So
it
is.
There
is
a
lot
to
say
and
a
lot
to
do
and
we're
very
grateful
for
this
opportunity
and
for
those
who
have
been
to
the
family,
justice
center
councillor
flynn
and
andrea
campbell.
J
L
If
I
may
say
something
just
quickly,
I
the
boston
police
department,
it
took
me
probably
five
times
to
get
all
level
two
sex
offenders
in
my
community
way
back
when
it
wasn't
easy
for
me,
if
they
don't
have
it
in
my
community.
L
H
A
Excellent
counselor
flaherty.
Would
you
like
to
have
any
further
questions,
or
would
you
like
to
make
some
closing.
B
This
is
very
informative
and
it's
clear
that
we
need
to
keep
pressure
on
you
know,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
victims.
It's
you
know
it's
an
interesting
phenomenon
where
the
perpetrator
is
arrested,
tried,
convicted,
sentenced,
and
then
I
guess
through
good
behavior
or
not
reoffending.
B
You
know
get
to
sort
of
move
forward
and
maybe
even
step
down
on
you
know,
through
probation
and
in
sort
of,
I
guess,
downgrade
the
level
of
of
how
he
or
she
is
viewed
as
a
sort
of
as
an
ex-offender.
So
but
that
doesn't
help
the
victim.
B
So
I
appreciate
the
courage
of
those
that
will
only
come
forward
into
to
offer
testimony
and
we'll
continue
to
stand
with
them
in
partnership
as
a
city
council
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
for
for
them,
and
and
it's
really
about
them-
it's
you
know
and
we're
obviously
we're
in
a
world
of
second
chances.
We're
in
a
world
of
you
know
recognizing
when
people
have
paid
their
debt
to
society
and
and
trying
to
find
a
way
to
allow
them
to
move
on.
B
But
this
is
a
you
know
particularly
difficult
situation.
In
many
instances
they
have
pretty
horrendous
and
heinous
criminal
acts
and
sexual
abuse
in
particular,
that
will
stay
with
the
victims
for
the
rest
of
their
lives.
And
it's
you
know
how
do
we
carve
out
and
pay
particular
attention
and
put
a
special
focus
on
on
those
victims
and
making
sure
that
they
have
the
resources
and
make
sure
they
have
continued
support
and
protection
from
from
the
perpetrators?
Even
though
the
event
happened
a
while
ago
ian
door,
the
person
is
has
paid
their
debt.
B
So
that's
for
me,
it
was
just
about
you
know.
Recognizing
that
we
need
to
continue
to
refocus
on
how
we
can
do
better,
and
I
look
forward
to
continue
working
together.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
hosting
a
friday
afternoon,
and
thank
you
for
the
panel
all
of
the
time
and
talent
that
went
into
that
goes
into
all
of
the
work
that
you
guys
do
and
and
appreciate
that
family
justice
center
obviously
has
been
a
it's
been
a
great
asset
for
our
city
and
again,
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone.
B
And
thank
you
to
the
co-sponsor
in
this
who's
done
great
great
work
in
the
space.
Also
as
a
as
an
attorney
and
someone
where
we
share
constituencies,
and
we
want
to
work
together
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
for
folks
out
there
in
our
neighborhoods.
A
D
Just
thank
you
to
the
makers.
Thank
you
to
you,
chair
woman,
for
moderating
this
conversation
and
to
the
panelists
and
to
kathy
for
showing
up
and
speaking
your
truth
and
holding
us
accountable.
We
definitely
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
around
sex
offenders
who
often
times
go
unregistered
here
in
the
city
of
boston
and
there's
very
little
way
for
us
to
hold
them
accountable
and
our
family
safe.
So,
thank
you
so
much.
It
was
a
great
car.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor,
brayden,
and
just
wanted
to
highlight
what
ian
marie
mentioned
and
what
council
edwards
mentioned
on
on
language
access,
but
I
do
a
lot
of
outreach
in
the
asian
community
and
went
to
the
asian
task
force
against
domestic
violence
and
met
with
the
executive
director,
and
I
asked
her
what
her
number
one
challenge
or
concern
was
as
an
organization,
and
she
said
language
access
just
in
the
asian
community.
E
I
I'm
probably
guessing
at
the
number,
but
she
she
said,
there's
like
15
or
20
different
distinctions
of
of
language
or
dialects,
and
they
just
don't
have
the
resources.
But
language
access
plays
a
critical,
critical
role
as
as
we
all
know
and
and
the
other.
The
other
point
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
is
the
role
of
coming
from
the
probation
department
or
in
the
court
system.
E
But
the
role
of
the
victim
witness
advocate
that
is
assigned
to
the
district
attorney's
office
also
is
a
great
resource
working
closely
with
the
victims,
family
and
interacting
with
the
sometimes
interacting,
with
the
probation
staff,
interacting
with
the
police,
but
especially
interacting
with
the
with
the
family,
with
the
impacted
family.
So
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
as
well.
Thank
you
to
the
makers,
thank
you
to
the
pianist
for
being
here,
but,
more
importantly,
for
the
incredible
work
you
do
on
this
important
subject.
A
Thank
you
councillor
flynn,
just
to
wrap
up.
I
really
want
to
express
my
gratitude
to
the
the
lead
sponsors,
counselor
edwards
and
councillor
flaherty,
for
bringing
forward
this
really
important
conversation.
A
I
want
to
thank
all
my
my
council
colleagues,
but
and
more
especially,
I
want
to
thank
kathy
dougherty
and,
and
all
of
you
folks
who
work
in
the
field
every
day.
This
is
invaluable
work.
It's
really
important
work.
A
It's
often
work
that
goes
unnoticed,
but
I
think
it's
my
commitment
to
keep
this
in
committee
and
to
continue
this
to
follow.
Counselor
edward's
suggestion
that
we
will
revisit
this
on
a
regular
basis
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
the
ball
forward
down
the
field,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
collaborate
with
you
all.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
time
taking
your
time
this
afternoon
to
come
and
talk
with
us
and
with
that
said,
unless
there's
any
other
comments,
I
will
move
to
adjourn
this
meeting.