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DOCKETS #0999, #1066, #1095, AND #1141 - Hearing regarding various public safety grants
A
All
right
do
we
have
everyone
in
all
the
panelists
or
no,
I
guess
we'll
get
started
with
folks.
We
have.
A
All
right
shane,
my
last
request-
and
maybe
I
have
to
do
this
on
my
end-
which
I
just
did
never
mind.
So
I
can
see
everyone
good
to
see
everyone
I'm
going
to
go
on
video
and
I'm
going
to
get
started.
A
A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
record
everyone.
My
name
is
andrea
campbell,
I'm
the
boston
city
councilor
for
district
four.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
committee
on
bo.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council's
committee
on
public
safety
and
criminal
justice.
A
I
am
joined
by,
let's
see
councillor
flaherty
counselor
flynn
and
councillor
mejia,
and
I
will
get
their
order
of
arrival
in
a
minute.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
council,
slash
city
dash,
council
dash
tv.
It
will
rebroadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn
channel
82
and
verizon
files
channel
1964.,
we'll
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
testify,
please
email,
shane.pacpp
boston.gov
to
sign
up
and
if
you
are
called,
we
will
give
you
two
minutes
to
offer
your
public
testimony.
A
You
can
also
submit
written
testimony
to
ccc.ps
boston.gov.
Today's
hearing
is
on
a
whole
host
of
grants
and
there
are
several
of
them
that
we
will
review
and
I
will
read
the
dockets
for
the
record.
A
The
first
is
docket
0
0999,
which
is
fy
2020
security
and
security,
the
security
and
the
cities
grant.
Then
docket
1066,
which
is
fy
19
assistance
to
firefighters,
regional
grant
and
docket,
two
more
dockets
dock
at
1095,
which
is
fy
21
state
911
training,
grant
docket
1141,
fy
21
burn
state
justice
assistance
grant.
We
are
joined
by
several
members
of
the
administration
from
the
police
department,
as
well
as
the
fire
department,
and
I
think
that's
it,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
who's
going
to
speak
to
each
grant.
A
A
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us
again.
Thank
you
to
everyone
from
the
administration.
I
know
how
busy
both
fire
and
police
are.
So
I
appreciate
you
being
here
and
taking
time
out
of
your
busy
schedule
and
we
will
jump
right
in
starting
with
docket
zero,
nine,
nine,
nine
marie!
Are
you
gonna
start?
Is
there
someone
else
who's
specifically
going
to
speak
on
this
grant.
C
Can
you
share
with
me
what
999
is
I'm
sorry?
I've
got
the
summaries
in
front
of
the
curiosities.
C
Yes,
actually
I'm
going
to
introduce
you
to
captain
timmy
connolly,
he
is
out
of
the
bureau
of
field
services
and
he's
overseeing
this.
Securing
the
cities
grant,
as
well
as
playing
the
role
of
project
coordinator
until
the
project
coordinator,
could
can
be
hired.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
captain.
D
To
see
you
again,
madam
chair,
just
as
a
high
level
overview
of
the
securing
the
city's
initiative,
it's
a
program,
it's
a
competitive,
repetitive
grant
issued
by
the
department
of
homeland
security
from
the
countering
weapons
of
mass
destruction
office,
and
it
goes
out
to
cities
containing
large
populations
and
substantial
critical
infrastructure
of
a
national
interest.
D
Several
thousand
law
enforcement
officers
will
be
trained
and
equipped
to
detect
material
that
could
be
used
to
make
a
radiological
dispersion
device
or
improvised
nuclear
weapon
and
simple
words
are
dirty
bomb
yeah
our
detection
equipment
is
being
deployed,
will
be
deployed
on
personnel
in
vehicles
and
watercraft
and
vessels
boston's
unique
where
we
are
we're
at
port
city,
so
we'll
we'll
have
to
protect
the
port
as
well
to
effectively
ring
the
region
with
the
radiological
nuclear
detection
capability,
while
effectively
enhancing
public
safety
with
newly
deployed
equipment
to
impact,
and
there
will
be
no
impact
to
daily
operations.
A
Thank
you
captain.
Anyone
else
want
to
add
anything
or
is
that
it
good
shane.
If
you
could
just
quickly
tell
me
the
order
of
arrival
for
my
colleagues
and
then
I
will
open
it
up
to
them
for
questions
absolutely
so
I.
E
F
And
obviously,
as
boston
was
the
the
launching
pad
for
september
11th,
and
we
also
experienced
the
marathon
bombing
where
many
civilians
and
and
our
first
responders
were
seriously
injured
or
worse,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
to
be
on
the
on
the
front
end
of
being
able
to
prevent
and
detect
whether
it's
dirty
bombs,
as
as
tim
had
mentioned
or
other,
I
guess,
weapons
of
destruction.
F
Sign
me
up.
This
council
has
always
had
a
great
relationship
with
our
first
responders,
and
I
intend
to
maintain
that
that
great
relationship,
so
I
appreciate
the
work
that
timmy's
put
in.
I
appreciate
his
training
and
experience
and
I
trust
his
judgment
that
this
grant,
if
approved
by
the
council,
will
be
could
put
to
good
use
and
will
be
protecting
the
citizens
of
boston
and
the
visitors
of
boston.
G
Thank
you,
council
campbell,
and
thank
you
to
captain
conley
for
providing
that
update
and
also
captain
conley
for
the
for
your
work
on
a
lot
of
these
incredible
difficult
issues.
So
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
captain
conley
and,
like
my
colleague
and
friend,
council
flaherty
mentioned
it's
an
important
subject,
and
this
grant
will
be
very
helpful.
H
What
flaherty
said
so
I'm
going
to
follow
his
lead
so,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
today.
In
all
honesty,
counselor
campbell,
I
don't
know
much
about
this
conversation,
but
I'm
here
to
participate
in
the
hearing.
H
I
you
know
it
sounds
like
we
need
this,
so
I'm
gonna
defer
to
your
leadership
and
to
tim
he
knows
what
he's
doing
and
as
long
as
you
know,
the
social
emotional
well-being
of
our
people
are
intact
during
this
particular
process.
I'm
all
in
yes
and
I'll
defer
to
you.
A
Thank
you,
council
mejia
councillor,
sabi
george,
do
you
have
any
questions?
I
will
ask
a
couple,
but
I'm
going
to
go
through
my
colleagues.
First.
Oh
no!
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
don't
sorry
to
tune
in
a
few
minutes
late
too.
Thank
you.
No
problem.
I'm
going
to
take
it
docket
by
docket.
I
guess
the
only
thing
just
counselor,
counselor
counselor
connolly,
you're
going
to
run
for
office
captain
is:
can
we
break
down
specifically
right?
It's.
I
think
it's
a
two
million
dollar
grant.
If
I
have
that
correct
right.
Yes,.
A
Specifically,
what
the
breakdown
is,
and
maybe
there's
a
document
I
know
for
some
of
the
other
grants-
maria
usually
breaks
it
apart
and
sends
it
over
yeah.
I
would
love
to
share
that,
but
we
could
specifically
talk
about
what
the
two
million
dollars
would
be
used
for
and
and
just
how
effective
you
know
not
only
how
necessary
the
resources
are,
but
how
it
speaks,
how
it
correlates
with
the
effectiveness
of
the
department
on
these
particular
tasks.
That
would
be
great.
D
Thank
you
yes,
so
it's
two
million
dollars
for
the
first
year
to
stand
up
and
it's
phase
one.
It's
the
engagement
portion
of
the
grant,
and
that
includes
standing
up
a
a
program
management
office
with
regional
capabilities.
It's
also
developing
several
committees,
an
executive
committee
and
operations
committee,
training
and
exercise
committee,
an
equipment
committee
and
an
information
exchange,
information
sharing
environment
committee.
D
So
there's
a
lot
of
capabilities
that
we
currently
don't
have
and
boston's
very
unique,
where
we're
so
dense
with
our
port
and
our
medical
nuclear
medicine
in
the
region
that
there
is
national
interest
in
and
you
know
what
can
you
know
low
probability
and
so
would
bring
on
a
program
manager
we'd
bring
on
a
finance
person
within
the
first
year.
We
would
use
the
money
to
set
up
that
office
as
well
as
to
purchase
equipment
within
the
region
as
well
as
set
up
tabletop
exercises
and
full-scale
exercises
as
well.
Man.
C
Can
I
just,
of
course,
good
maria?
Thank
you,
we're
also
giving
25
subcontracts
to
our
regional
partners,
because
this
is
a
regional
capacity
grant,
so
that
would
include
other
law
enforcement
agencies
that
need
to
come
to
the
table
and
plan
with
us,
and
that
would
include
resources
for
them
to
be
able
to
utilize
key
staff
to
be
able
to
participate
in
all
of
these
committees.
And
I
could
give
you
a
list
of
regional
partners,
but
they
include
local
pd
such
as
chelsea
everett,
revere
quincy
with
her
and,
as
I
said,
randolph.
C
C
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
No,
I
don't
have
any
particular.
I
think
preparedness
and
coordination
with
regard
to
incidents
that
involve
nuclear.
This
is
the
nuclear
radiation,
the
nuclear,
that's
the
one
we're
talking
about,
given
the
fact
that
mit
just
across
the
river
has
a
nuclear
reactor
on
campus
over
there.
I
think
these
are
things
that
we
need
to
think
about.
So
thank
you
so
much.
I
don't
have.
H
H
H
Just
because
I
feel
like
oftentimes,
just
all
these
things
happening
in
our
community
and
we
don't
even
know
about
them,
and
this
is
this
is
a
big
deal
or
it
seems
like
it's
a
big
deal,
but
I
think
there
would
be
something
worth
considering
in
terms
of
just
educating
the
public
about
what
we're
doing,
why
we're
doing
it
and
the
role
that
they
play
in
helping
to
keep
us
safe,
just
something
to
think
about,
and
then
I
just
have
two
more
things
just
to
consider.
H
One
is
I'm
just
curious
about
the
cultural
competency
piece
and
and
just
in
terms
of
who's
at
the
table,
because
I
know
when
we're
talking
about
homeland
homeland
security.
Oftentimes
people
feel
a
little
bit
nervous
about
just
things,
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there,
maria,
just
and
and
then
the
last
thing.
Sorry,
someone
just
scared
me
I
should
have.
The
last
thing
is.
Thank
you.
H
The
last
thing
that
I
want
to
just
the
last
thing
is:
is
that
a
dashboard
in
terms
of
feedback
so
that
we
can
continue
to
keep
our
constituents
updated
in
terms
of
what
you're
doing
what
the
outcomes
are
ways
for
us
to
have
our
goals
and
objectives
clearly
stated
and
in
a
way
for
for
people
to
provide
feedback
just
curious?
If
those
things
we
can
consider.
D
I
can
I
can
answer
that
man
on
the
first
part
of
your
question.
I
think
that
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
the
mayor's
office
put
something
out.
We
are
one
of
13
cities
that
have
the
secure.
Excuse
me,
secure
the
cities
program
and
most,
if
not
all
the
other
cities
out
of
the
leadership
from
the
local
governance,
had
provided
some
type
of
a
website
where
people
can
go
to
explaining
exactly
what
it
is
and
into
the
second
component
of
your
question.
D
I
think
that's
a
great
question
for
the
information
exchange
and
the
information
sharing
environment
committee
where
we
could
have
some
type
of
you
know
there
would
be
funding
for
some
type
of
a
website
to
answer
exactly
those
questions
for
transparency,
on
what
we're
doing,
how
everything's
being
done
and
what
goals
and
objectives
have
been
met
and
which
ones
we're
trying
to
reach.
And
you
know,
matrices
yeah.
Absolutely
man.
C
And
I
would
just
second
that
my
answer
to
the
question
is
that
when
we
wrote
the
grant
application,
we
had
to
really
think
critically
and
strategically
about
how
we
were
going
to
meet
each
criteria
that
they
had
given
us
through
the
rfp,
and
so
we've
done
a
little
thinking
around
the
communication
subcommittee
as
well
as
the
other
subcommittees,
because
these
are
mandates,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
important
thoughts
that
you
had
just
come
up
with,
which
is
in
three
categories
that
I'm
looking
at
right
now
will
actually
be
a
culture
that
come
through
that
communication
subcommittee,
and
I
know
that
because
when
we
had
written
the
grant,
a
lot
of
what
you're
talking
about
was
a
requirement
for
us
to
respond
to.
C
And
so
I
appreciate
those
questions
and
those
things
will
be
done
in
within
the
context
of
this
very
important
communication
committee.
That
falls
under
the
overall
structure
of
this
regional
office
that
we're
talking
about.
A
A
You
can't
hear
a
word,
I'm
saying
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
the
second
docket,
which
is
docket
one:
zero,
six,
six
fy
19
assistance
to
the
firefighters,
it's
the
regional
grant,
I'm
not
sure,
is
that
kathleen.
Are
you
going
to
speak
to
that
grant.
I
A
Madam
chair
awesome
I'll,
have
you
do
just
an
overview
and
update
for
the
counselors
and
then
I'll
go
back
around
to
each
counselor
for
any
questions?
Okay,.
I
I
This
grant
is
from
afg,
which
is
assistance
for
firefighters
and
it's
to
cover
all
of
our
covered
supply
needs
and
I'd
be
happy
to
go
through
what
those
details
are,
but
primarily
the
the
largest
of
the
397
000
consists
of
respirators,
but
also
eye
protection.
Foot
covers
gloves,
coveralls
face,
masks,
decon
supplies
and
hand
wash
and
I'd
be
happy
to
supply
that
list
if
anyone's
interested,
but
we're
very
excited
that
we
did
get
this
reimbursement
from
afg.
A
That
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
questions.
It
was
a
reimbursement,
so
thank
you
kathleen
for
that
clarification
and
if
you
could
send
over
that
list,
that
would
be
wonderful.
I
can
also
share
with
council
colleagues
who
aren't
who
who
are
unable
to
attend
today.
A
A
Thanks
councillor
flynn,
councillor
mejia
any
questions
on
this
specific
grant.
Yeah.
H
No
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
the
ppe
who
are
we
distributing
them
who's
it
who's
it
going
to.
Is
it
going
to
be
to
our
first
responders
to
the
fire
department
where,
where
is
it
going.
I
A
A
I
A
A
Now,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
docket
1095,
which
is
the
fy21
state,
911
training
grant,
and
this
is
in
the
amount
of
457.
A
671.85,
maria
or
I'm
not
sure,
who's
going
to
speak
from
bpd
on
this
specific
grant.
B
E
You,
madam
champion,
good
afternoon,
this
is
christopher
marconis,
director
of
quality
assurance
for
the
operations
division
of
the
boston
police
department,
I'll
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
this
grant.
E
Good
afternoon
happy
holidays
to
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
council.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
E
This
grant
is
an
annual
grant
that
is
awarded
to
the
the
boston,
the
city
of
boston,
it's
divided
between
the
boston
police
department,
the
boston
fire
department
and
boston
ems
to
help
defray
the
costs
of
training,
our
9-1-1
telecommunicators
and
dispatchers.
E
We
have
continuing
education
requirements
in
order
to
keep
our
staff
certified.
This
fully
funds
that
requirement
set
forth
by
the
state,
and
it
also
helps
to
pray
the
cost
of
any
training.
Additional
training
that
we
see
is
necessary
for
our
telecommunicators
and
dispatchers
between
the
police
department,
the
fire
department
and
boston
ems.
So
it
is
an
annual
grant.
A
Christopher,
can
you
just
quickly
speak
to
how
many
folks
get
trained
with
this
these
resources,
which,
of
course,
we
get
every
year
and
what
that
training
sort
of
looks
like
what
the
continuing
training
looks
like
just
for
for
counselors.
Thank
you.
So.
E
We
have
here
in
the
at
least
on
the
boston
police
department
side,
which
is
the
primary
911
call
center
for
the
city.
We
have
about
a
hundred
employees
up
here,
just
over
a
hundred
employees
that
get
trained
through
this
grant.
E
The
state
requires
each
telecommunicator
to
be
a
10
16
hours
of
continuing
education
classes
per
year
in
order
to
keep
this
certification,
so
those
classes
can
be
anything
from
in-house
training
here
on
rules
and
regulations
and
policy
to
classes
for
dealing
with
suicidal
callers
or
de-escalation
techniques.
E
Some
of
them
are
also
geared
toward.
You
know
stress
the
mental
health
for
the
actual
employee,
so
those
those
courses
are
all
paid
for
through
this
grant.
A
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
campbell.
I
have
one
question
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up
regarding
the
stress
that
9-1-1
operators
go
through,
especially
dealing
with
a
lot
of
traumatic
calls
that
come
in.
Do
they
do
they
receive
the
the
right
amount
of?
What
do
they
receive
the
right
amount
of
time
so
that
they
can
go
to
medical
appointments,
whether
it's
mental
health,
counseling
or
or
making
sure
that
we
provide
the
best
medical
care
and
mental
health
services
available
to
them,
especially
in
in
the
difficult
environment
that
they
work
in.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question
council
flynn.
That's
a
great
question.
We've
been
we've
been
working
on
that
for
the
last
several
years,
we've
actually
instituted
a
peer
support
program
up
here
for
all
of
our
staff,
all
of
our
civilian
staff,
where
they
are
able
to
avail
themselves
of
post-incident,
counseling
or
debriefings
after
a
critical
incident.
E
We
also
have
resources
available
through
the
on-site
academy,
which
is,
is
an
academy,
that's
funded
through
the
state
that
assists
all
first
responders
policemen,
firemen
emts
also
now
911
telecommunicators
in
in
dealing
with
critical
incident,
stress
or
stress
that
they
may
bring
home
due
to
the
fact
due
to
their
job
and
their
exposure
to
critical
incident
stress
on
the
job
we
also
have
available.
E
We
we
do
a
lot
of
training
regarding
emotional
distress
and
critical
incident
stress
on
the
job
here
through
this
grants,
so
that
that
is
a
component
of
their
training
and
it's
also
a
component
of
the
peer
support
team.
We're
looking
at
some
other
alternatives
as
well
to
increase
that
amount
of
training,
because
it
is,
it
is
so
critical.
It's
it's
it's
a
it's
been,
you
know,
underfunded,
and
it's
been
in
such
a
need
for
so
many
years.
It's
being
recognized
now
nationally
as
something
that
needs
to
needs
to
be
there.
G
H
Just
two
questions
one
I
just
well
actually
one
is
a
question
and
the
other
one
is
a
statement.
My
cousin
brenda
ortiz
used
to
work
for
the
9-1-1
and
she
was
like.
I.
H
Yeah
she
worked
there
for
a
long
time
and
I
I
know
that
she
did
really
well
there
and
then
I
have
another
colleague
of
mine,
sylvia
correa,.
H
You
know
these
questions
are
really
in
and
to
support
their
work,
and-
and
I
know
that
handling
these
calls,
as
counselor
finn
said,
is
definitely
very
stressful
and
often
times
we
carry
that
trauma,
I'm
home,
I'm
can't
just
leave
it
at
work
sometimes,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
this
training.
H
What
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
the
trauma
response,
type
of
training
that
you're
that
you'll
be
able
to
provide,
and
then
I'm
also
curious,
around
customer
service,
because
sometimes
I
know
it's
so
stressful
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
in
terms
of
meeting
with
empathy
and
when
there's
so
much
going
on,
like
what
kind
of
skills
are
provided
to
people
so
that
they
can
maintain
their
cool
and
walk
people
through
oftentimes,
difficult
challenges.
E
Excellent
questions,
so
the
the
training
funds
help
us.
They
actually
helped
get
the
peer
support
program
up
here
in
operations
off
the
ground.
We
were
able
to
train
matter.
Of
fact.
E
You
mentioned
one
of
the
members
of
the
team,
sylvia
correa
she's,
actually,
on
the
peer
support
team
up
here
in
operations,
those
funds
actually
paid
to
send
our
folks
to
a
three-day
training
to
get
certified
in
in
peer
counseling
how
to
identify
signs
of
distress
amongst
their
coworkers,
how
to
identify,
after
a
tough
call
coping
skills,
how
to
deal
with
the
trauma.
How
to
deal
with
the
stress
involved
in
taking
a
call
from
somebody.
That's
having
a
bad
day.
E
You
know
having
one
of
the
worst
days
of
their
life,
so
so
that
training,
those
these
training
funds
do
help
with
that.
They
also
help
we
we
do
training
for
empathy,
customer
service
for
our
911
telecommunicators,
because
it
is
vitally
important
because
they
are
the
first,
the
first
they
are
the
true
first
responders.
E
E
We
need
to
have
great
customer
service
because
we
need
to
be
able
to
de-escalate
situations
over
the
phone
and
sometimes
it's
it's-
it's
easier
said
than
done,
but
it
is
a
challenge
and
we
do
offer
extensive
training
and
that
and
we're
actually
getting
ready
to
embark
on
a
new
customer
service
class
this
spring
so
hopefully
march.
I
believe
it's
gonna
be
starting
to
to
kind
of
go
over
some
of
these
things
and
again
it's
constant.
E
It's
ongoing
training,
all
that
is
funded
through
the
training
grant,
telecommunicators
get
it
and
the
state
requires
a
certain
amount
of
these
classes.
Every
year.
H
Yeah,
that's
great
and
then
chris
I'm
just
curious,
acosta
campbell.
One
more
question
is
that
okay,
yeah
yeah
okay,
so
I'm
also
curious
in
terms
of
customer
service
surveys.
Like
do
you
ever
use
an
opportunity
to
survey
how
people
are
experiencing
the
9-1-1
and
then
based
on
what
you
learn,
are
you
able
to
then
share
with
your
employees
on
how
what
areas
of
growth
do
you
do
any
surveying
to.
E
So
we
don't
do
any
surveying
of
the
public
as
of
yet
we
do
have
a
pretty
comprehensive
quality
assurance
program
which
I
run
and
what
we
do
with.
That
is
it's
a
non-disciplinary
approach,
primarily
reviewing
calls
and
incidents,
and
what
we
do
is
we
review
the
call
take
or
the
dispatcher's
interaction
with
the
public
and
through
the
recordings
were
able
to
determine.
Do
they
ask
the
appropriate
questions
for
the
incident
being
reported?
How
is
their
customer
service
skills?
How
are
the
customer
service
skills?
E
All
that
is
reviewed,
but
the
call
takers
are
then
we
review
those
incidents
with
them,
particularly
on
the
911
call
taking
side
and
help
them
like
you
said
coach
them.
What
went
right?
What
went
wrong?
What
can
we
do
better?
How
can
we
improve
it
and
kind
of
hone
their
skills
in
on
on
on
what
their
job
is,
and
it
is
beneficial?
E
It's
very
it's
very
eye-opening
at
times,
because
it's
one
thing
to
take
the
call
then,
sometimes
after
after
the
fact
to
listen
to
it,
see
how
you
sound
to
the
public
and
how
the
call
came
across
it
is
it's
a
good
training
tool?
It's
a
good
it's
a
good
coaching
tool.
H
Thank
you
and
I'm
fernando
from
the
mayor's
the
ig
contact
is
here.
I
think
on
the
call.
I'm
gonna
volunteer
myself
when
you
do
the
customer
service
training.
If
you
want
me
to
come
in
as
a
guest
speaker,
I
wouldn't
do
that.
Just
sure.
I
would
love
to
that.
Those!
That's
a
that's
one
of
my
projects.
I
guess,
if
you
will,
is
just
helping
people
with
communication
skills,
and
so,
if
you
want
me
to
come
in
to
be
a
speaker,
I'm
volunteering,
okay.
I.
A
E
A
A
How
do
we
use
our
9-1-1
system
to
create,
in
partnership
with
the
3-1-1
system,
to
create
pathways
for
callers
right
when
they're
calling
about
specific
things
that
it's
not
always
going
to
police
or
always
going
to
officers?
Mental
health
calls
certain
types
of
calls,
maybe
being
redirected
somewhere
else.
So
I'm
curious
chris
from
your
vantage
point,
where
you
set
some
of
your
thoughts
on
that
and
specifically
on
the
resource
side
of
things.
If
you've
given
thought,
maybe
you
haven't
on
just
how
that
would
even
work.
Currently,
with
with
your
current
system
and
resources,.
E
I
I
mean
it
is
it's
we're.
We
have
ongoing
discussions
now
about
alternative
routing
for
901
calls
or
incidents
that
are
called
in
across
the
city.
I
mean
people
call
9-1-1
for
everything,
so
it
could
be
from
you
know
something
is
minor
and
somebody
cut
them
off
in
in
traffic
and
they're
or
they're
they're.
They
have
a
you
know
pet
peeve,
about
something
going
on
on
the
corner.
E
A
street
light
out
or
something
going
on
in
the
neighborhood
that
would
be
better
addressed
by
311,
the
mayor's
office
or
some
other
city
department.
I
I
will
say
it's
a
matter
of
policy
now,
if
it's
a
non-police
matter,
if
it's
something
of
that
nature,
we
do
direct
folks
to
3-1-1.
It
would
be
more
appropriate
to
call
and
deal
with
either
code
enforcement
if
it's
something
going
on
in
their
neighborhood
and
a
building
permit
issue
or
a
noise
issue.
That's
that's
non-criminal
in
nature
or
that's.
E
You
know
not
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
where
it's
loud,
music
or
something
or
a
loud
party,
but
we
are
having
conversations
also
around
the
mental
health
aspect
of
the
calls.
What
to
do
with
folks
that
call
9-1-1
that
are
in
a
bad
way
and
is
that
you
know
they
don't
need.
Maybe
they
don't
need
an
emergency
ambulance?
Maybe
they
don't
need
a
police
car?
Maybe
they
just
need
somebody
to
talk
to.
Maybe
they
need
a
counselor.
E
Maybe
we
can
get
them
services
without
sending
a
police
unit
and
tying
up
a
police
unit
or
tying
up
an
emergency
ambulance.
So
we
are
having
those
discussions
internally
now
between
boston
ems,
boston,
police
and
the
mayor's
office.
So
those
discussions
are
ongoing,
but
we're
always
we're
always
open
to
suggestions.
We
take
sick
over
600
000
incoming
911
calls
a
year
here
in
boston.
E
They
all
primarily
come
into
boston
police
headquarters.
First,
we
triage
them.
If
it's
a
fire
related
call,
we
transfer
it
over
to
boston
fire
if
it's
a
medical
call
gets
transferred
over
to
boston
ems
and
it's
busy
it's
it's
hectic.
Our
staff
works
hard,
they're,
all
great
people.
They
most
of
them
come
from
the
city,
the
city
residents.
They
they
understand
the
neighborhoods
they
live
in.
They
live
in
the
neighborhoods
here
in
the
city.
They
understand
the
challenges.
E
So
if
that
helps,
but
we're
always
trying
to
do
things
a
little
bit
differently
and
look
at
how
we
can
be
more
efficient
and
more
responsive
to
the
community.
A
No
thank
you
for
that,
and-
and
I
think
it's
an
ongoing
conversation
over
here,
of
course,
on
the
council
side
too.
So
this
is
all
fantastic,
and
thank
you,
of
course,
for
all
that
you
do
and
for
all
of
all
of
your
callers
as
well
and
and
your
staff.
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
counselor
flaherty.
Do
you
have
any
questions?
Counselor
flaherty,
on
this
specific
grant
before
I
move
on.
A
A
F
But
the
range
is
from
a
to
z,
and
so
I
just
want
to
commend
chris
and
the
men
and
women
that
work
for
our
9-1-1
system.
So
thank
you
and
I
will
be.
I
want
to
go
on
record
of
supporting
this
grant.
Thank
you,
madam
president.
Madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
council
flaherty.
Thank
you,
chris.
We'll
move
on
to
the
thank
you
we'll
move
on
to
the
last
grant,
which
is
docket
1141.
This
is
fy21
burn,
state
justice
assistance
grant,
which
I
know
we've
received
in
the
past,
so
who
is
speaking
on
that
one
from
bpd.
J
A
Doing
well,
thank
you,
deputy
superintendent,
for
being
here
I'll.
Let
you
speak
to
it
and
then
I'll.
Do
the
same
thing
go
back
around
and
ask
any
questions
from
myself,
but
also
my
council
colleagues.
J
Okay,
thank
you
for
having
me
and
good
afternoon
to
everybody.
This
is
a
grant
to
the
state
police
that'll,
provide
funds
for
the
mass
state
police
and
the
boston
police
to
share
and
work
in
partnership.
J
This
will
also
enhance
community
trust.
The
mission
is
to
continue
the
work
with
our
community
partners,
continue
to
improve
on
prevention,
intervention
and
suppression
strategies.
Remember
26th
year
with
the
department,
so
I've
seen
firsthand
the
destruction
that
firearms
bring
to
many
families
within
this
community.
J
It
is
clear
that,
even
during
the
pandemic,
the
city
is
seeing
a
problem
with
firearms.
As
we've
seen,
you
know,
the
number
of
firearms
seized
the
number
of
homicides
and
the
number
of
people
show
up
continue
to
rise,
there's
a
lot
of
victims
and
a
lot
of
families
being
affected.
So
you
know,
I
believe
these
funds
are
crucial
and
necessary
to
deal
with
this
issue.
A
Thank
you,
deputy
superintendent,
just
a
few
questions,
and
then
I
can
always
save
the
rest
for
the
the
next
next
round.
Okay,.
J
A
C
I'm
texting
jason
as
we
speak.
This
is
a
passage,
so
the
money
goes
directly
to
st
mass
state
police
and
we
get
a
portion
of
it.
So
let
me
jason's
responding
okay.
B
C
So
jason's
basically
saying
it's
not
an
annual
grant,
oh
yeah,
and
so.
C
Yeah,
I
didn't
think
it
was
either.
Then
I
thought
maybe
I
was
wrong,
but
I
was
right
because
jason,
let
me
know
that
this
was
a.
This
is
not
an
annual
grant.
This
is
what
I
recall
is.
This
is
the
first
time
we've
received
this
amount
of
money
from
the
mass
state
police.
We
do
get
other
mass
state
police
funding,
but
it's
a
different
grant.
So
I
think
and.
A
I'll,
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
go
into
some
other
questions
and
go
around
and
we
can
come
back
no
problem,
so
you
know
this
this
korean,
I
was
just
obviously
we're
talking
about
not
only
guns
but
gun
violence
and
actually
seeing
an
uptick
right
now
right
in
the
city
of
boston,
unfortunately,
which
of
course
is
sad
on
all
fronts,
including
on
our
police
department,
side
and
public
safety
agencies
that
have
to
respond
and
and
also
a
community-based
organization,
so
deputy
superintendent,
if
you
could
just
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
around,
you
know,
this
is
the
summary
is
always
about
how
this
is
supposed
to
allow
us
to
sort
of
address
specific
impact
players,
certain
people
who
are
those
players.
A
How
does
this?
How
do
these
resources
specifically
allow
us
to
do
that?
What's
the
strategy
and
mechanisms
we
we
use
in
order
to
to
reduce
gun
violence,
particularly.
J
We're
obviously
gonna
focus
our
efforts
on
those
individuals
in
as
far
as
you
know,
if
we
get
information
that
individuals
are
possessing
firearms,
obviously
we're
gonna,
you
know
initiate
investigations
to
determine
whether
information
is
credible
and
if
it's
reliable
and
if
it
is
then
obviously
that
that
investigation
will
go
further
and
it
it
could.
Progress
to
you
know,
search
one
arrest
or
something
along
those
lines.
A
And
the
grant
talks
about
you
know
targeting
specifically
violent
impact
players,
who
are
the
impact
players?
What's
the
number
of
impact
players
that
we're
talking
about
is
this
work
done
in
coordination
right
with
the
ssy
grants,
the
other
grants
that
are
also
sort
of
targeting
impact
players,
or
is
this
different
in
this
different
set
of
individuals.
J
A
Okay,
that
would
be
that
would
be
just
helpful
as
I
can
for
I
can
for
me
to
share
with
council
colleagues,
not
only
because
you
know
the
description
is
so
general
right
says
it's
targeting
violent
impact
players
right.
You
know
what
does
that
actually
mean
if
we
could
get
a
a
bigger
or
a
longer
description
on
that,
so
I
can
share
with
council
colleagues,
particularly
those
who
had
to
jump
off
earlier,
who
couldn't
attend
and
then
maria
if
we
could
get.
Obviously
this
is
a
one-time
grant.
The
first
time
we're
receiving
it.
A
That's
fine,
we
can,
you
can
jason
can
follow
up
and
then
the
second,
my
last
question-
and
I
can
wait
for
the
next
round-
is
it's
300
000
right?
So
what's
the
specific
breakdown
of
where
the
dollars
go?.
C
So
I
can
answer,
I
just
got
off
the
phone
with
jason
and
basically
this
is
the
state's
jag
grant
that
they
subcontract
to
us
and
that's
why
we
have
never
got
it
before.
In
the
past,
we've
received
this
jag
grant
as
well.
So
when
you
think
of
the
federal
jag
grant,
the
federal
one
is
the
one
that
pays
for
the
domestic
violence
advocates
they
pay
for
a
new
hub
coordinator
and
they
pay
for
some
technology.
Folks
that
allow
us
to
do
the
the
incident
database
work
with
the
new
mark.
C
43
that
goes
directly
to
us.
This
grant
is,
is
actually
the
mass
state
police
grant
that
they
sub
contract
to
us
and
those
funds
go
towards.
As
you
know,
as
we've
already
discussed
those
involved
in
guns
and
gang
activity,
they
are
that's
a
broader
group
than
the
ssyi
database
group.
C
The
database
group
is
the
same,
but
it's
a
smaller,
more
targeted
group
than
my
assumption
is
the
broader
group
of
people
that
will
be
the
work
of
both
mass
state
police
and
the
boston
police,
because
some
of
those
activities
will
be
cross
jurisdictional
line
activities.
C
The
the
the
subcontract
that
went
to
the
bpd
is
for
overtime
for
the
gang
unit
to
participate
in
mass
state
police
multi-jurisdictional
activities.
Some
of
these
activities
will
obviously
get
integrated
between
guns
and
gangs
and
and
also
trafficking,
often
in
other
crime
categories.
So,
and
so
the
work
is
not
only
multi-jurisdiction
and
cross
crosses
crosses
lines
between
sort
of
greater
boston
communities,
but
they're.
C
Not
it's
my
assumption
that
it's
not
just
targeting
just
the
guns,
it's
more
widespread,
it's
the
connection
between
the
guns,
the
gangs,
the
drugs,
the
trafficking
and
other
criminal
enterprises.
So
I
that's
frankly
because
it's
this
first
grant
and
it's
a
pass-through
and
we
didn't
write
it.
That's
all
I
know
about
it.
So
we'll
get
you
the
answers
to
your
other
questions.
A
If
we
could
get
a
breakdown
of
the
300
000
right
of
summer's
used
for
overtime
for
the
gang
unit,
I
think
folks
would
want
to
know
that
and
then,
where
else
the
dollars
go
in
the
department
to
respond
to
all
of
this-
and
my
last
question
is,
you
know,
there's
shot
spotter
technology
in
here,
I'm
assuming
a
percentage
of
the
dollars
go
to
that
technology,
the
shotspotter
technology
as
well.
No,
no
nothing
in
here
goes
okay.
C
Again,
this
description
is
vague,
because
it's
this
subcontract
that
we
received
in
order
to
answer
some
of
these
questions.
We'd
have
to
get
a
copy
of
the
grant
that
the
mass
state
police
wrote,
because
it's
their
grant.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
now
go
on
to
counselor
flaherty.
Do
you
have
a
question
yeah.
F
I
it's
not
often
that
the
states
are
throwing
around
grant
money,
so
we
should
take
it
when
they
when
they
offer
it,
but
I
know
that
we've
done
a
number
of
joint
stings
and
and
there's
been
a
number
joint
task
force
most
recently,
the
one
that
netted
a
lot
of
impact
players
got
a
lot
of
drugs
in
guns
off
the
street,
and
there
was
a
significant
trafficking
human
trafficking
component
to
it
so
great
to
see
our
different
jurisdictions
and
law
enforcement
agencies
working
together
and
collaborating,
and
so
if
this
continues
to
foster
that,
then
I
would
like
to
go
on
record
in
supporting
it.
F
It's
also
great
to
see
deputy
gaines.
We
go
back
to
the
sort
of
the
mid
to
late
90s
in
my
time
in
the
da's
office.
So
I
know
he's
got
a
front
row
seat
and
has
led
the
effort
in
this
part
in
the
space
as
well,
and
if
is
there
way,
deputy
gains?
F
You
can
tell
us
how
many
guns
have
been
taken
off
the
street
in
in
this
calendar
year
or
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
and
if
have
you
seen,
an
increase
during
covid
with
folks
sort
of
with
places,
closed
and
people
pent
up
indoor
throughout
the
summer.
J
Gatherings
I
mean
for
this
year
we're
over
400
firearms
seized
for
the
year,
which
is
up
from
last
year,
and
if
you
want
to
break
it
down
by
homicides
and
people
shot
for
2020,
there's
been
45
homicides
by
firearms,
that's
up
from
28
in
2019
and
as
far
as
non-fatal
shootings
this
year
has
been
226,
that's
up
from
157
last
year,
so
the
numbers
are
definitely.
F
Up
it's
significant
deputy
and
are
we
seeing
when
I
was
in
the
da's
office?
It
was
the
stashed
weapon
phenomenon
and
for
those
that
from
my
colleagues
are
on
more
often
than
not
you
you
know
at
the
street
level,
you
wouldn't
take
a
gun
from
someone,
particularly
if
you
didn't
know
whether
or
not
it
was
connected
to
a
body
say,
and
they
were
pretty
meticulous
on
that.
However,
we
had
this
sort
of
stashed
weapon
phenomenon
going
on.
When
I
was
in
the
da's
office,
it
sort
of
stopped,
and
then
we
started.
F
We
started
tick
back
up
again,
where
it
really
didn't
matter.
It
used
to
be
the
old
days,
you'd,
sort
of
scrape
off
the
serial
number
etc.
But
people
would
be
reluctant
to
take
a
weapon
from
someone
else
if
they
didn't
know
the
history
of
the
weapon
and
then
all
sort
of
rules
went
out
the
door
and
and
we
had
kids
stashing
weapons
in
neighborhoods
and
trash
cans
and
under
stoops
and
in
alleyways,
so
that
they
were
readily
accessible.
F
In
the
event
the
situation
arose
and
oftentimes
would
recover
a
weapon,
and
you
know
this
deputy
because
we
had
worked
together
on
it,
but
would
recover
a
weapon
and
it
had
multiple
bodies
attached
to
it.
So
can
you
maybe
just
briefly
describe
this
to
whether
or
not
sort
of
the
stash
weapon
phenomenon,
if
that's
still
taking
place
out
in
the
streets
and
or
is
there
any
sort
of
code
around
when
people
are
sharing
weapons?
F
J
I
would
say
you
still
have
that
to
some
extent,
but
I
just
think
that
there's
so
much
more
weapons
out
there
right
now
it
does
still
occur,
but
I
would
say
not
as
much.
F
So
the
volume
is
such
is
that
you
know
that's
no
need
to
be
picky.
I
guess
it
you
get.
You
can
readily
guns
absolutely.
I
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
deputy
and
getting
as
many
guns
as
possible
off
the
street.
Illegal
firearms
obviously
are
a
big
piece
of
this,
and
so
my
hope
is
that
this
grant
money,
if
approved
and
I'll,
be
supporting
it
will
go
to
giving
you
the
tools
that
you
need
and
obviously
and
will
support
the
efforts
that
maria
had
outlined
in
her
presentation.
C
Yeah,
so
I've
been
on
and
off
with
jason
and
basically
he's
saying
that
all
three
hundred
thousand
is
for
overtime
that
there's
a
certain
number
of
game.
The
only
specialized
unit
within
the
bpd
that
will
be
able
to
use
this
overtime.
Money
is
the
gang
unit
in
that
it
will
be
utilized
in
in
ways
that
conform
with
boston,
police
protocol
and
policy,
around
overtime,
use
and
recorded
succinctly
in
that
manner.
A
Say
that's
very
helpful,
and
just
you
know
when
you're
talking
about
300
000
for
overtime
for
that
particular
unit,
how
many
officers
does
that
entail
just
in
terms
of
number
of
officers?
Does
that
entail?
Obviously
working
in
partnership
with
the
state
police.
C
J
Okay,
right
now,
within
the
youth
violence
strike
force,
there's
55
officers.
In
my
understanding
there
will
be
seven
nine
troopers
assigned
over
here
total.
A
And
that's
very
helpful,
and
you
know
just
I
wanted
to
flag
there's
a
separate
hearing
conversation
that
will
come
up
next
year
around
the
gang
database,
the
brick
fios
in
that
unit,
the
gang
unit
or
the
use
violence
task
force,
youth,
violent
strike
force
because
there's
a
lot
of
questions
right
around
how
you
get
into
the
gang
database,
what
the
information
looks
like,
etc.
So
I
just
want
to
flag
that
it's
ongoing.
A
The
conversation
will
also
probably
go
into
an
area
where
there
are
folks
who
suggest
you
know.
Do
we
need
the
unit?
What
does
it
look
like?
Should
we
break
the
unit
apart
and
send
those
officers
back
to
the
district,
there's
a
whole
host
of
conversations
right,
so
that
hearing
will
be
an
opportunity
to
delve
into?
I
think
some
of
what
we're
talking
about
here.
A
So
I
just
want
to
flag
that
because
they
continue
to
be
ongoing
conversations
in
separate
spaces
from
the
grant,
but
just
wanted
to
have
specifics
around
what
the
300
000
would
be
used
for.
I
have
one
more
a
couple
more
questions,
but
I
want
to
be
fair
to
my
colleagues
so
counselor.
G
Flynn,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
campbell,
madam
chair,
and
just
have
one
question
for
the
deputy.
Thank
you
deputy
for
your
leadership
in
the
city.
What
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
trafficking
guns
across
state
lines,.
G
J
I
mean
we
have
task
force
members
assigned
to
an
atf
task
force
who
they
would
deal
with
those
issues
we
wouldn't
deal
with
that
at
the
youth
violence
right
force,
any
type
of
gun
trafficking
issue
would
be
dealt
with
by
the
atf
task
force.
J
J
Absolutely
because
they're
just
so
much
easier
to
obtain
in
some
of
these
other
states.
You
know
some
of
these
states.
You
can
purchase
it
with
just
an
identification
and
you
can
buy
several
guns,
and
this
is
not
a
like.
We
do
a
pretty
good
job
in
this
state.
Everything's
documented,
everything's,
monitored
and
every
transaction
gets
put
into
the
computer.
A
lot
of
states
aren't
operating
like
that.
So
these
guns,
you
know
they'll
get
people
to
go,
buy
them,
they'll
go
buy
five
or
ten
of
them,
and
then
the
guns
just
disappear.
G
I
think
part
of
the
solution,
obviously,
is
that
we
we
have
stricter
gun
policies
at
the
federal
level,
so
that
trafficking
guns
is
you
know
across
state
lines,
is
more
difficult,
but
I
know
it's
more
of
a
state,
a
federal
issue,
but
again
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
deputy
and
to
bpd
on
the
important
work
on
on
this
issue.
Thank
you.
J
G
Yeah,
just
as
just
as
an
example,
I
I
lived
in
various
states
across
the
country
serving
in
the
military
and
you
could
walk
into
stores
and
you'd,
see,
guns
and
rifles
on
the
wall
as
if
you
were
buying.
G
You
know,
sporting
equipment
like
a
basketball
or
a
baseball
glove
or
to
be
did
be
in
the
same
section
like
that,
so
it
was
pretty
coming
from
the
northeast
or
coming
from
boston,
pretty
shocking,
to
say
the
least
when
you,
when
you
see
that
how
easy
it
is
to
get
legal
guns
in
a
lot
of
states
across
the
country.
Yes,
it
is.
G
Thank
you
deputy
thank
you.
Counselor
campbell.
H
Hi,
yes,
thank
you,
I'm
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
deputy
superintendent.
It's
good
to
see
you,
I
will
have
to
say
in
full
disclosure.
H
I
have
some
reservations
about
this
particular
a
docket,
mainly
because
there's
just
so
much
distrust
in
communities
of
color
already
as
it
relates
to
racial
profiling,
and
I'm
just
curious
about
you
know
how
this
particular
grant
helped
to
increase
the
trust
within
communities
of
color,
and
I
also
am
curious
about
how
often
times
the
gang
unit
racially
profiles,
black
and
brown
young
men,
muslims,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
about
how
all
of
this
is
being
taken
into
account,
and
this
is
one
that
I'm
not
solely
enthusiastic
about.
H
While
I
do
care
about
safety,
I
just
I
have
some
high
reservations
in
terms
of
the
racial
profiling
situation
and
anything
that's
going
to
continue
to
further
impact.
Those
who
have
already
been
targeted
by
the
gang
unit
makes
me
feel
a
little
bit
uncomfortable.
So
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
can
speak
to
some
of
that.
J
J
J
You
know
if
you're
participating
in
firearm
violence
it
and
you
come
across.
You
know
into
our
sites
as
an
individual
being
involved
in
this.
Then
we're
going
to
investigate
that.
I
mean
we
go
where
the
violence
is
at
and
that's
what
we
investigate
that.
Those
are
the
individuals
that
we're
investigating.
H
Yeah,
but
so
I
guess
I
will
just
have
to
just
in
terms
of
just
a
follow-up
around
that
is
that
there's
so
many
unsolved
murders
in
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
this,
if
this
of
these
investigations,
you
know
what
what,
how
are
we
producing
results
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
return
of
our
investment
in
terms
of
capturing
some
of
these
usual
suspects.
J
H
Yeah,
because
I
you
know
they're
still
like
there's
all
of
this
money
being
poured
into
gang
intelligence
and
this
that
or
the
other,
but
we
don't
see
the
outcomes
in
our
communities,
there's
still
a
lot
of
unsolved
murders
or
so
a
lot
of
you
know.
Where
did
the
gun
come
from?
All
those
things
are
still
unanswered
in
many
cases,
and
so,
if
this
fund
is
supposed
to
help
support
that
work,
I'm
just
curious
about.
J
Success,
like
I
said
over
400
firearms
were
ceased.
I
mean
how
many
homicides
did.
Did
that?
Stop
that
that
clearly
is
having
some
sort
of
an
impact
on
the
violence.
I
mean
for
every
gun
that
sees
it
nobody's
going
to
get
shot
with
that
fire.
But
I
hear
you,
though
you
know
some
of
these
cases
they
they
do
not
get
solved
and
that
that's
for
many
reasons.
Maybe
it's
just
a
lack
of
evidence.
J
You
know
what
I
mean
yeah,
just
not
every
case
is
solvable,
but
you
know,
I
think
the
investigators
say
do
the
best
that
they
can.
I
really
do.
H
J
H
Yeah,
I
think,
to
count
campbell's
point
in
terms
of
just
like
all
of
the
concerns
that
exist
in
our
community
in
regards
to
the
myth,
the
the
mistrust
and
people
not
feeling.
I
just
like
this
this
this
particular
docket
consular
campbell,
I'm
going
to
struggle
with.
In
terms
of
I
mean
I'm,
not
the
only
one,
that's
going
to
be
voting
on
it,
but
I
do
have
some
significant
reservations
in
terms
of
just
what
what
and
I
worked
you
know,
deputy
superintendent
in
the
90s
I
was-
I
was
yeah.
H
H
So
I
understand
the
ebbs
and
flows
of
violence
in
in
the
boston
area,
and
I
do
believe
that,
if
we're
that
intervention
and
prevention
goes
a
long
way-
and
I
think
that
if
there
was
a
way
for
us
to
really
pour
more
resources
into
the
intervention
into
the
prevention
side
of
this-
that
we
might
be
able
to
really
move
the
needle
around
around
decreasing
violence
in
our
community.
H
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I'll
be
advocating
for
is
more
on
the
prevention
end,
just
because
I
feel
like
that
is
where
these
resources
are
needed.
Thank
you.
Well,.
J
I
I
can
tell
you
that
we
we
do
work
with
talia
right,
rivera
from
soar
and
street
workers
and
leroy
peoples,
and
you
know
they
they
do
have
people
out
there,
and
you
know
we
have
weekly
meetings
and
discussions
and
you
know
they
try
to
get
ahead
of
violence,
and
you
know
they
try
to
mediate
situations
that
you
know:
social
media
beasts
and
neighborhood
beefs
that
are
going
on
and
they're.
Definitely
trying
to.
J
You
know
to
get
these
individuals
to
put
their
guns
down
and
to
make
them
think
a
different
way
and
to
not
opt
not
necessarily
resolve
the
issues
with
violence
and
and
they
do
a
very
good
job.
But
in
the
events
that
you
know
we're
unable
to
you
know,
mediate
it
or
change
these
individual
minds.
A
Well,
I
will,
I
will
add,
you
know
councilman.
I
appreciate
the
points
you're
raising,
because
this
was
the
only
grant
that
I
had
questions
too
and
why
I
wanted
to
flag
that
separate
conversation
around.
You
know
the
hearing
that
council
royal
and
I
will
do
together,
but
I'm
sure
councilman
he
and
others
will
act.
You
know
definitely
participate
and
be
a
part
of,
is
you
know,
questions
from
community
around
the
recent
fio
data
right
that
questions
from
community
around
brick
and
how
you
get
into
the
gang
database?
A
There's
so
much
there's
so
much
people
don't
know
around
that
point
system
how
you
get
in
how
you
get
off
et
cetera.
Definitely
a
conversation
around
that
and
there's
definitely
questions
around
this
particular
task
force
in
this
particular
gang
unit
and
and
whether
or
not
it's
necessary.
Of
course,
I've
spoke
to
folks
that
were
in
the
department
who
say
it's
absolutely
necessary,
there's
a
certain
expertise
that
officers
have
in
this
unit
that
others
don't
around
dealing
with
folks
who
are
in
gangs.
A
A
It's
all
used
for
overtime
for
officers
in
this
unit,
which
I
have
concerns
about
around
right.
Why?
Why
do
we
need
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
cover
overtime?
You
know
what
is
what's
what's
the
restrictions
where
you
from
where
you
sit
deputy
superintendent
as
to
why
this
amount
has
to
go
to
overtime?
A
I
think
that
connects
to
this
larger
conversation
or
how
we're
having
around
overtime
budget,
how
the
fact
it's
not
sustainable
over
years
to
come.
So
I
would
love
to
hear
your
perspective
on
that
or
maria.
If
you
have
a
perspective
on
just
all
of
this
going
to
overtime,
which
I
think
is
concerning
to
many
as
we
talk
about
reducing
the
overtime
budget
and
I'm
doing
some
hearings
with
counselor
bach
right
now
and
we're
seeing
how
challenging
that
is,.
J
I
mean
I
can
just
from
my
vantage
point.
You
know
crime
isn't
necessarily
nine
to
five
and
you
know
sometimes
you
know
to
do
investigations.
It's
outside
of
our
work
hours.
I
mean
we
typically
work
from
8
a.m,
to
11
45
p.m.
We
have
two
shifts
here.
You
know
a
lot
of
times
the
individuals
that
are
engaging
in
this
type
of
activity,
they're
not
around
during
those
hours.
J
You
know
they
come
out
later
at
night
or
we
may
have
information
that
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
retaliation
overnight.
So
we
want
to
put
extra
resources
out
there
during
those
hours
to
cover
that,
in
the
event
that
you
know
there
is
a
retaliatory
act
and
we
can
cover
that.
So
I'm
just
saying
you
know
sometimes
investigations
and
in
the
need
to
protection
control,
so
it
does
fall
outside
the
the
time
of
our
regular
hours.
A
And
how
does
this
connect
with
the
administration's
goal,
or
you
know
trying
right
now
they
committed
to
12
million
trying
to
reduce
12
million
which
actually
because
the
overtime
budget
is
going
up.
They
have
to
realize
more
than
that
in
order
to
get
to
that
commitment.
So
how
does
this
vote?
How
does
this
tie
into
to
the
you
know
the
administration's
attempt
to
save
money
on
the
overtime
side
of
things,
and
then
my
second
question
is
you
know
maria?
Are
these
dollars
already
spent?
Is
this
a
reimbursement?
What's
the
structure
of
of
the
grant.
C
So,
with
regard
to
your
first
question,
the
boston
police
department,
at
this
point
in
time,
as
you
know,
is
attempting
to
look
in
various
units
and
other
divisions
to
lower
lower
overtime
costs.
This
300
000
doesn't
come
from
the
city
of
boston
operating
budget.
We
didn't
write
the
grant
and
put
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
grant
over
time
for
ourselves.
This
was
something
that
came
to
us
from
the
mass
state
police
because
of
the
way
in
which
they
work
with
our
game
unit.
C
I
I'm
sure
you
already
know
much
of
the
reasoning
for
why
the
overtime
is
where
it
is
is
because
the
boston
police
itself
has
has
less
police
offices
than
it
historically
has
had,
and
so
we
are
mandated
to
cover
certain
things
that
range
from
anything
from
protests
to
to
to
rallies
to
other
types
of
coverage,
and
so,
when
you
have
less
police
offices
available,
you
need
the
the
use
of
overtime
is
to
cover
mandates,
and
so
that's
why
we
struggle
internally
right
now
with
increasing
overtime,
because
some
of
this
stuff
is
mandated
by
law
that
we
cover,
and
so
that's
what
we're
struggling
with
right
now
internally
and
then,
as
was
working
on
this
internally
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
save
in
cost
in
this
category,
we
get
this
grant
that
from
the
outside
that
says
this
is
this:
is
our
rules.
C
This
is
our
money,
we're
giving
you
this
money
to
do
these
cross
jurisdictional
activities
as
well
as
city
of
boston
activities
with
us.
A
And
so
my
last
questions
looking
at
the
time
I
know
we've
gone
over,
but
my
last
two
questions
on
that
partnership
right
between
state,
police
and
bpd,
which
is
obviously
I
get
it.
You
got
to
work
in
partnership
with
law
enforcement.
All
around
you.
You
know
the
the
description
says
is
to
develop
and
document
intelligence
and
into
enhanced
community
trust,
but
we've
also
talked
a
lot
about
the
resources
being
used
to
get
guns
off
the
street
so
curious.
A
You
know
how
much
of
the
activity
includes
getting
guns
off
the
street
and
what
what
pieces
of
it
include
enhancing
community
trust,
and
how
do
we
do
that
with
this
unit
right?
How
do
we
do
that
with
this
unit
in
this
partnership
with
state
police.
C
A
I
C
Well,
a
lot
of
times
the
work
that
we
do,
especially
in
I
could
just
think
of
the
top
of
my
head
in
grove
hall,
is
there's
hundreds
of
community
groups
that
come
to
our
meetings.
We
go
to
their
meetings.
We
share
information
with
them.
They
share
information
with
us.
They
tell
us
what
they
want
us
to
do
in
many
of
these
neighborhoods
and
so
so,
and
they
want
answers,
and
they
want
to
know
that.
C
You
know
when
I
told
you
that
there's
serious
gang
activity
and
certain
people
in
this
neighborhood
can't
leave
their
front
doors
they
want
to.
They
want
to
know
that
they're
being
heard
so
many
times,
folks
from
the
from
the
youth
violence
strike
force,
are
attending
these
meetings
consistently
and
having
those
back
and
forth
conversations
with
not
only
community
groups
and
residents,
but
community
non-profits,
and
so
I'm
particularly
for
this
grant.
C
I
I
I
can't
make
the
assumption
that
this
particular
task
force
work
is
also
going
to
continue
to
do
what
we
do
regularly
by
nature
in
the
in
hours
in
which
community
meetings
take
place.
But
when
I
hear
building
trust-
and
I
hear
that
in
partnership
with
what
the
work
of
the
youth
violent
strike
force
is,
there's
a
range
of
activities
that
the
strike
force
participates
in
that
that
are
about
communication
with
community
groups
and
building
trust,
and
I
assume
with
these
funds
that
will
continue
to
take
place.
C
However,
you
know
again
not
we
didn't
write
it,
not
our
grant.
I.
A
J
A
Okay,
do
my
colleagues
have
any
more
questions
and
I'll
you
know,
look
for
the
the
the
write-ups
and
the
breakdowns
to
share
with
all
council
colleagues
on
all
of
these
grants,
including
including
this
one,
oh
councilman
here
or
counselor
flynn.
I'm
sorry
did
I
skip
you.
Did
you
have
some
additional
questions.
A
Thank
you,
council
mejia.
H
Yeah,
so
I'm
just
curious:
would
there
be
an
opportunity
to?
I
know
the
funds
are
allocated
for
a
specific
reason,
but
in
the
interest
of
just
really
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
build
trust,
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
think
about
strategic,
how
we
can
utilize
these
funds
differently
or
no
like.
H
Them
to
something
else,
yeah
redirect
them
yeah
more
pouring
into
more
intervention
and
prevention,
maybe
more
trust,
building
and
less
surveillance
and
things
that
are,
you
know
racially
profiling.
At
least
the
sentiment
is
out
here,
I'm
just
curious,
maria
or
deputy
superintendent.
If
there's
a
way
for
us
to
reconsider
how
those
funds
are
used.
C
Well,
at
first
blush
that
would
be
a
conversation
we
would
have
to
have
with
the
mass
state
police.
If
this
was
a
multi-year
grant,
we
could
be
more
proactive
about
that
conversation
with
them
in
terms
of
a
balance,
but
I
I
understand
exactly
what
you're
saying
and
so
again
that
conversation
since
it's
their
grant
would
have
to
take
place
with
the
mass
state
police.
H
A
I
think
it
is
worth
worth
engaging.
I
mean
I
would
be
shocked
right
based
on
previous
grants,
we've
received
from
them
as
pass-throughs
if
we
can
redirect
those
dollars
to
some
of
the
other
things
we're
trying
to
redirect
funds
from
the
overtime
budget
too
right
to
councilmehia's
point.
That's
the
ongoing
conversation.
How
do
we
realize
these
savings
to
get
it
to
community-based
organizations
on
the
ground
who
are
really
helping
our
police
on
the
preventative
side
right
because
they
can't
do
it
all?
A
So
it's
definitely
worth
checking
and
if
we
could
send
that
as
a
follow-up
that'd
be
great,
you
know
there's
just
going
to
be
major
concerns.
I
can
tell
you
with
300
thousand
dollars,
going
straight
to
overtime
for
the
entire
budget.
I
understand
it's.
The
state
police
just
giving
us
their
money
for
greater
partnership.
Wonderful,
that's
great!
We
don't
like
to
turn
money
away,
but
I'm
just
giving
that
larger
context
from
what
what's
what's
sort
of
for
consideration
on
our
side,
which
of
course
is
a
little
at
moments.
A
I
think
broader
than
what
you
guys
are
focused
on
right
in
terms
of
just
getting
dollars
into
a
particular
unit.
To
do
their
job,
so
that's
worth
asking
sorry
councilman
he
I
took
over
for
that
because
I
think
that's
a
critical
question.
We
asked
for
every
grant
councilman
here.
You
have
more
questions.
H
There,
no,
it
was
just
a
recommendation,
maria
and
deputy
superintendent.
I
really
do
think
that
we
have
an
amazing
opportunity
to
restore
the
trust
in
our
community
and,
if
there's
ways
for
us
to
be
able
to
help
support
that
work
through
this
particular
grant,
then
I
think
that
it
will
speak
volumes
to
helping
to
support
nonprofit
organizations
that
can
really
help
you
all
get
guns
off
our
streets.
A
That's
right,
thank
you,
council
mejia,
and
thank
you,
maria
and
deputy
superintendent
and
I'll
also
flag.
You
know
on
their
whether
whether
it's
bias
in
policing
racial
profiling,
whatever
it
is,
you
know
the
recent
fio
data
was
very
disturbing
right
to
many,
particularly
when
you
saw
the
disparities
go
up
and
we
know
just
putting
my
former
lawyer
hat
on
when
you
look
at
certain
crime
data.
It's
not
just
that
black
and
brown
people
are
committing
crime
in
the
city
of
boston
or
or,
and
that
white
residents
aren't,
for
example,
right
there's
just
a
real.
A
I
think
a
real
intentionality
that
we
have
to
have
with
respect
to
policing,
which
I
I'm
not
trying
to
preach
to
the
experts
who
do
the
work.
But
the
data
that
we
received
was
disturbing,
and
I
think,
rather
than
just
say
that
there
will
be
hearing
council
o'malley
and
I
will
do
next
year
that
really
tries
to
only
speak.
Look
at
the
data
get
the
police
department
to
also
come
in
and
talk
about
it,
but
then
talk
about
what
are
the
strategies
we
can
use
so
that
we
don't
continue
to
see
that
right.
A
A
I
don't
know
that
may
be
diversifying
our
public
safety
agencies,
which
is
the
second
conversation
we're
gonna
have
literally
now
in
the
second
hearing
coming
up
folks,
who
are
people
of
color
from
the
community
who
knows
but
really
exploring
some
strategies
around
that
that
data,
so
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
maria,
of
course,
deputy
superintendent
you'd,
be
willing
to
participate
in
those
conversations,
given
your
expertise
in
the
department
and
in
the
community.
A
So
thank
you
all
councillor
flynn,
it
looks
like
you're
all
set
and
thank
you
to
my
council
colleagues
for
being
here.
Thank
you,
council
mejia
as
well.
Thank
you
to
others
from
the
administration,
the
police
department,
as
well
as
the
fire
department,
and
we
will
review
the
grants.
I
will
get
the
rest
of
the
information
to
my
council
colleagues
and
go
from
there
now
and
oh
go
ahead.
Shane.
K
A
A
A
Let
me
know
shane
when
they're
on,
I
don't
see
them
just
yet.
A
K
A
K
We
know
that
the
fusion
task
force
and
brick-
and
I
do
appreciate
your
leadership
counselor
campbell
on
looking
at
the
numbers
on
the
gang
database.
But
we
know
that
when
we
give
money
to
monitoring
for
quote
terrorists
or
that
being
the
implication
on
radiological
threats,
that
it
means
more
monitoring
of
our
muslim
neighbors
and
immigrants
from
muslim
majority
countries
and
other
young
men
of
color-
and
I
just
find
that
very
concerning.
K
How
cultural
competency
will
be
baked
into
the
response
and
what
that
will
mean
for
my
neighbors,
who
are
people
of
color
who
are
somali
immigrants
and
then,
with
regard
to
1141?
I
just
it's
the
bottom
line,
whether
or
not
it
comes
out
as
a
city
operating
budget.
It's
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
ot,
because
once
again
the
boston
police
department
has
failed
to
budget
correctly.
K
They
need
to
take
into
account
the
fact
that
crimes
happen
after
midnight
that
they
want
to
respond
to
and
they
need
to.
I
know
that
this
money
has
not
been
spent
yet.
I
know
it
would
be
coming
from
state
troopers,
but
still
they
need
to
be
thinking
about
how
they're
using
their
hours
and
how
they
plan
on
building
community
trust
councillors
campbell,
and
he
had
both
asked
about
that,
and
I
don't
believe
we
got
a
satisfactory
answer.
We
heard
about
how
people
involved
with
community
watch
groups
are
responding.
K
We
did
not
hear
about
how
people
being
targeted
young
children
put
into
gang
databases.
We
did
not
hear
about
how
them
and
their
families
feel
and
how
they
will
respond
to
these
things.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
concerns
are
noted
on
the
record.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
No
thank
you,
and
they
absolutely
will-
and
I
appreciate
you
joining
us
at
the
beginning
and
staying
to
the
end,
to
raise
those
points
up
which
of
course
will
be
reflected
in
the
record
and
I'll
also
make
sure
my
council
colleagues,
of
course,
are
made
aware
of
all
of
you
think
all
of
the
things
we
discussed
today,
which
is
critically
important.
A
E
A
Okay,
thank
you
again
to
everyone
for
being
a
part
of
this
conversation,
thank
you
again
to
the
administration.
We
will
review
all
of
this.
I
will
make
sure,
of
course,
every
council
colleague
has
what
we
discussed,
along
with
other
documents
that
you'll
send
over
in
terms
of
breakdowns
through
these
grants,
and
we
will
then
go
from
there.
So
thank
you
all
stay
safe
and
healthy,
enjoy
the
holiday
season
and
take
care
of
yourselves.
This
hearing
is.