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Docket #0638 - Ordinance to create the Boston Commemoration Commission
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B
B
B
B
The
proposal
establishes
the
membership
of
the
commission,
authorizes
the
creation
of
subcommittees
and
defines
the
responsibilities
and
authority
of
the
commission.
The
committee
held
a
public
hearing
back
on
october
19
2021
at
the
hearing.
The
committee
heard
from
the
administration
officials
about
the
archaeology
programs
in
the
city,
historic
preservation
and
the
role
of
the
city
archives
in
the
planning.
B
In
their
order
of
arrival,
all
counselors
should
have
received
a
redline
version
of
the
ordinance
prior
to
the
start
of
the
session,
and
that
was
coming
via
central
staff
because
we
will
be
working
line
by
line
from
this
document
at
the
at
the
lead
following
the
lead
of
lead
sponsor
council
box.
So
with
that,
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
council
block
for
opening
comments
and
we'll
go
from
there.
Council
bot,
you
have
the
floor.
C
C
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
ourselves
discussing
with
folks.
Was
you
know
we
want
those
to
be
kind
of
pivot
points
and
and
gold
dates
that
help
us
think
about
how
to
really
revitalize
the
city's
whole
history
and
all
of
our
resources
for
supporting
it.
So
some
of
the
types
of
things
that
we're
thinking
about
are
for
sure
the
economic
development
aspects
of
really
supporting
historical
tourism
and
recognizing
that
that's
something
that,
in
the
bicentennial
philadelphia
managed
to
do
much
better
than
we
did
and
when
we're
talking
about
tourism.
C
Businesses
around
the
city
that
have
really
been
hit
extremely
hard
by
the
kova
crisis,
like
focusing
on
that
is
important
from
a
dollars
and
cents
perspective.
And
it's
important
in
terms
of
really
getting
it
into
the
neighborhoods.
I
mean
boston
has
had
international
success
with
marketing
the
freedom
trail,
but
we
should
have
heritage
trails
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods
that
are
drawing
traffic
and
are
supporting
locally
owned
tourism.
Businesses.
C
Now
that
we're
coming
up
on
this
250th,
it's
a
good
time
to
really
to
really
make
sure
that
the
tools
we
have
to
preserve
boston's
historic
buildings
in
historic
sites,
like
the
the
native
american
quarry
that
the
landmark
commission
took
some
initial
action
on
last
week.
Are
you
know,
protected,
and
that
we
can?
C
C
And
again,
when
we
think
about
historic
preservation
stretching
into
our
neighborhoods,
we
we
need
to
sort
of
start
from
a
place
of
how
do
we
survey
the
whole
city
historically,
in
order
to
really
bring
equity
into
that
work
and
make
sure
the
same
resources
are
available
in
low-income
communities
around
the
city
and-
and
I
think
again
and
again,
as
we've
been
doing
this
work,
it's
come
up
how
school
children's
you
know.
Mindset
was
shaped
by
what
they
learned
in
the
bicentennial,
and
so
we
really
don't
want
to
miss
these
opportunities.
C
To
have
young
bostonians
look
around
and
see
themselves
mirrored
in
the
history
that
they
hear
at
the
250th
and
the
400th,
and
then,
I
think,
really
importantly
as
well.
Well,
we
started
from
those
dates
in
the
process
of
this
conversation,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
underscored
was
that
we
have
to
be
looking
at
our
timelines
and
asking
what
are
the
important
dates
for
our
different
communities
in
the
city.
What
are
important
days
for
indigenous
bostonians?
C
How
do
we
kind
of
even
in
terms
of
the
dates
that
we
mark
reclaim
a
more
inclusive
story
and
so
bringing
on
board
folks
who
think
about
all
those
different
areas
of
history,
bring
on
board
archivists
to
talk
about
the
community
resources
that
are
often
mouldering
in
a
basement
somewhere?
That
tell
really
important
stories.
For
us.
These
are
all
critical
pieces
and
if
it
sounds
sprawling,
it's
because
it
is,
and
if
you
think,
as
we
discussed
today,
the
working
session,
the
list
of
folks
we're
thinking
of
having
on
this
commission,
it
seems
kind
of
long.
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C
That's
what
we
want
to
what
we
want
to
grab
hold
of
here.
So
I'm
really
grateful
to
the
many
folks.
I
know
we'll
hear
from
today,
and
I
know
that
figuring
out,
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
a
commission
is
always
a
little
bit
complicated
and
creepy,
and
I'm
grateful
to
the
administration
folks
and
many
of
the
groups
that
sent
us
feedback
and
comments
ahead
of
this.
C
So
our
purpose
today,
after
obviously
any
other
counselor
opening
statements
and
hearing
from
the
admin,
is
to
run
through
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
so
far
to
the
document
and
the
consultation
with
the
mayor's
legal
staff.
That's
gone
into
that
and
then
you
know
see
if
there's
anything
else
that
comes
up
today,
that
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
before
bringing
this
before
the
council
for
potential
passage
prior
to
the
end
of
the
legislative
session.
So
that
was,
I
didn't
know
my
notes.
C
B
You,
council,
black
and
obviously
we're
waving
openings,
but
want
to
make
sure
we
we
just
dive
right
into
the
flow
so
I'll
turn
that
portion
over
to
you.
If
you
don't
mind
and
we
can
go
redline
by
redline,
there's
anything
we
need
from
the
administration
from
the
get-go,
but
we
understand
the
issue,
obviously
from
our
last
hearing
and
just
want
to
kind
of
get
to
the
meat
and
potatoes.
If
that
works.
For
you.
C
Yeah,
that's
perfect
and
I
think
that
makes
sense.
I
think
I
know
that
a
bunch
of
things
we
heard
from
the
administration
before
we
tried
to
reflect
in
this
red
line,
so
I
think,
probably
if
we
run
through
the
red
line
and
then,
if
you
know
roseanne
and
cara
and
david
just
seeing
who
else
and
john
and
michael
yeah
so
kate
lynn.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
C
First
of
all,
I
think
if
everybody
can
just
kind
of
make
notes
along
the
way
about
what
things
we've
taken
care
of
and
then
what
issues
we
haven't,
and
maybe
we
can
get
to
the
issues
that
we
feel
like
we
haven't
taken
care
of
yet
at
the
end
part,
I
just
need
carrie
to
promote
emily
brown,
my
policy
director,
so
that
she
can
run
the
slides
carrie.
Is
that
possible.
C
C
We
really
want
to
use
the
city
archives
resources.
We
want
to
think
about
all
that
stuff
that
we
keep
in
basement
somewhere.
How
do
we
get
that
out
to
bostonians
and
really
vivify
the
city
for
folks
through
this
process
unless
he
keeps
rolling,
and
so
that
sort
of
gives
the
whole
explanation
of
where
we're
coming
from
here
and
then
from
here,
we'll
just
scroll
down
and
we'll
stop
it?
C
Wherever
we've
got
changes
and
as
it
says
there,
the
changes
in
red
were
made
with
input
from
the
administration
to
be
consistent
with
section
35
and
city
charter,
which
lays
out
some
parameters
for
how
commissions
need
to
be
framed
and
then
there's
a
few
other
legal
concerns.
I
should
say
that
we
were.
C
We
were
previously
snagging,
some
more
authority
for
the
city
council
here
with
the
appointments,
but
you
know
pascally.
Our
charter
is
quite
clear
on
commissions,
they
need
to
be
mayoral
appointed
without
council
approval.
This
is
different
from
you
know,
some
other
types
of
things
like
the
cpa,
board,
etc
that
we're
creating
by
ordinance,
but
because
this
is
a
commission,
it's
kind
of
specifically
covered
under
that
section,
35
of
the
charter.
C
So
that's
why
we
that's
why
we
nixed
our
approval
there
and
then
sort
of
we're
thinking
about
the
whole
realm
of
people
who
needed
to
be
added
onto
this,
and-
and
I
want
to
say
before
I
start
going
through
these-
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
here.
Our
vision
for
this
is
very
much
one
of
having
a
series
of
subcommittees
that
are
able
to
say,
fight
off
and
chew.
C
How
do
we
support
a
citywide
historical
survey
or
how
do
we
do
a
timeline
that
really
highlights
the
key
dates
for
our
different
communities?
For
let's
talk
about
the
series
of
events
leading
up
to
2026
and
kind
of
have
subcommittees
that
are
the
right
sub-selection
of
these
folks
deal
with
that
and
then
come
back
and
report
to
the
whole,
but
that
the
fact
that
there
is
that
hub
and
spoke
system
keeps
everybody
informed
about
each
other's
work
and
allows
for
real
synergy
in
the
work.
C
So,
although
there's
a
lot
of
people
on
this,
we're
not
imagining
lots
of
all
commissioner
meetings
happening
constantly,
but
we
did
talk
about
the
need
to
really
represent
the
business
community
here
so
and
and
to
think
about.
We
already
had
the
idea
of
a
tourism-related
boston
business,
both
in
downtown
and
outside
of
downtown,
so
that
we
are
thinking
about
getting
stuff
into
our
neighborhoods,
but
also
the
many
historical
resources
we've
got
downtown
and
the
tourism
related
businesses
hub
there.
C
And
then
one
of
the
feedback
points
we
got
was
to
also
think
about
the
broader
business
community.
I
mean
things
like
the
true
centenary:
we
celebrated
100
years
ago.
That
was
an
all
boston
event
right
and
the
same
thing
was
the
250th,
and
so
we
don't
just
want
to
be
in
the
tourism
sector.
We
want
business
leadership
involved
in
this
the
whole
way
through,
so
that
caused
us
to
add
in
philanthropic
leaderships
that
cause
the
additions
of
the
chamber
of
commerce,
tbf
and
mass
competitive
partnership
seats
and
then
with
yeah.
C
Then
we
have
a
series
that
didn't
change
and
we
clarified
that.
We
definitely
want
the
native
american
indian
center
of
boston
just
to
have
a
seat.
And
so
we
didn't.
We
didn't.
We
mixed
that
second
half
of
line
11,
but
we
then
put
a
member
with
expertise
in
local
indigenous
history
down
at
15,
so
that
so
that
we
also
have
a
spot
for
somebody.
Who's
not
affiliated.
C
We
added
a
member
from
the
massachusetts
tribe
at
pancape
and
I
just
want
to
thank
them
for
joining
us
at
our
last
hearing.
It
was
really
wonderful
to
hear
from
them
and
I
think
the
massachusetts
tribe
lately
has
been
involved
in
some
really
good
consciousness.
Raising
about
the
indigenous
history
of
boston.
I
was
president
of
flag
raising
at
the
harvard
club
of
boston,
downtown
and,
like
I
said,
there's
some
pretty
exciting
work
around
preserving
this
quarry
and
a
lot
more
to
do
one,
member
from
the
museum
of
african
american
history.
C
And
then
we
want
two
members
added
here
from
the
national
parks
of
boston,
representing
both
the
boston,
national
historic
park
and
the
boston
african-american
national
historic
site,
and
we
think
these
are
really
important
custodians
of
our
city's
history
and
they
already
think
about
how
to
do
sort
of
popular
programming,
and
it
would
be.
It
would
be
strange
not
to
happen
at
this
table,
so
we
had
omitted
them
before
then.
These
others
are
all
folks
who
are
already
on
with
on
it
mhs,
which
is
also
staffing.
C
C
So
it's
the
chief
or
their
designee
for
economic
development
for
arts
and
culture,
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment.
We
ended
up
saying
the
superintendent.
Oh
sorry,
I
skipped
an
edit.
We
we
mixed
the
ex-officio,
because
again,
apparently
by
charter,
that's
not
how
we're
supposed
to
designate
it.
These
people
themselves
do
need
to
be
named,
even
though
they're
going
to
hold
it.
C
By
virtue
of
having
the
title
on
32
the
we
switched
from
the
chief
academic
officer
of
bps
to
the
superintendent,
simply
because
the
titles
in
bps
and
such
can
change
around.
We
know
we've
always
got
a
superintendent
and
obviously
it's
their
designee,
so
they're
free
to
designate
somebody
who's.
Whoever
feels
like
the
most
appropriate
person.
C
I
do
really
want
to
stress
that
I
think
the
curricular
opportunities
to
kind
of
do
local
trails
in
our
neighborhoods
and
local
exhibits
at
our
bpl
libraries
that
are
tying
into
like
great
local
history
units
for
our
kids
that
are
hubbed
around
the
timeline.
Like
that's
part
of
how
you
get
young
people
excited
about
history,
and
when
you
get
young
people
excited
about
history,
they
see
themselves
in
it.
They
read
more
there's
just
like
there's
a
ton.
You
know
it's
one
of
the
best
disciplines
to
develop
like
research
and
an
analysis
skill.
C
C
Our
collector
treasurer
who's,
a
steward
of
the
one
concrete
financial
source
for
historic
preservation
in
the
city.
The
community
preservation
trust
fund,
which
counselor
flaherty
is
the
lead,
counsel,
cheryl
and
then
a
boston
city
councillor
and
again,
because
it's
a
commission,
this
person
needs
to
be
designated
by
by
the
mayor.
So
presumably
you
know
hopefully
in
friendly
consultation,
but
that's
why
we
mixed
that
sentence.
C
And
then
we
decided
there's
a
lot
of
red
here
because
basically
we're
being
a
little
overly
prescriptive
about
exactly
who
was
gonna
sit
on
each
of
the
different
subcommittees
and
we
decided
that
that
probably
didn't
make
sense
at
the
legislative
level.
So
we
just
nixed
that
all
together,
I
think
people
will
sort
themselves
into
the
appropriate
subcommittees,
is
the
hope
and
then
emily.
Can
you
keep
scrolling.
C
Yeah
so,
right
after
it
says
that
everyone's
gonna
serve
without
compensation.
The
chair
for
the
commission
itself
and
for
each
subcommittee
will
be
designated
by
the
mayor
again.
This
is
this
commission.
Well
will
not
be
taking
votes
as
it
were.
So
that's
we
took
that
out
of
there
and
it's
designed
to
last
until
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
that
the
second
half
of
2030
is
in
so
2030.
You
know,
ends
december
31st
and
then,
but
that
fiscal
year
continues.
C
So
the
idea
would
be
that
the
commission
sort
of
runs
until
the
end
of
that
fiscal
year
and
then
that
it
starts
up
once
we
pass
this
and
then
here
in
this
language
again
just
following
the
guidance,
the
law
department,
rather
than
implying
that
the
commission
has
policy
making
like
power,
we
did
soften
it
to
say
that
the
commission
is
advising
the
mayor.
That's
what
our
other
commissions
do.
C
We
fully
intend
this
to
be
a
working
commission.
That's
why
so
many
people
who
actually
know
things
are
on
it,
and
so
the
goal
is
definitely
to
do
lots
of
to
do
lots
of,
like
you
know,
very
substantive,
important
work.
But
fundamentally
it's
the
mayor,
who's
been
receiving
those
reports
and
who
the
commission
is
advising,
and
so
we
just
specified
that
did
a
little
bit
of
fixing
of
verbs.
C
We
stress
the
fact
that
collaborating
with
state
level
and
regional
commemoration
efforts
is
going
to
be
important,
we're
obviously
the
capital
city
of
the
state
and
and
this
we
hope
going
to
be
a
lot
of
coordinated
activity
and
the
funneling
of
federal
funds.
Frankly,
for
that
activity,
especially
around
the
250th,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
coordinating
and
then
determining
whether
any
other
sub
committee
should
be
added,
which
again
we
would
advise
the
mayor
on
if
we
were
to
create
a
new
subcommittee.
C
But
we
didn't
want
to
lock
ourselves
in
too
badly
and
then
this
kind
of
describes
as
before
is
it's
three
sorry,
I'm
like
you
scroll
down
for
a
second
just,
so
I
can
see
it's
a
little
further
yeah.
Okay,
so
we've
got
so.
If
you
now
go
back
up
so
basically
there's
three
major
subcommittees
being
proposed.
C
So
we
don't
need
to
specify
that
guests
can
be
invited
and
then
is
there
anything
else?
No,
no!
That's
it!
Okay,
so
that
I
hope
I
didn't
go
too
fast,
but
that
is
a
a
summary
of
the
changes
that
we
made
so
far.
I
want
to
thank
the
law
department
for
looking
this
through
and
providing
all
these
technical
changes,
and
just
say
that
you
know
we
were
happy
to
accept
those,
not
you
know
looking
for
this
very
much
to
be
a
collaborative
thing
here,
including
at
the
end
so
yeah.
C
B
D
I
think
we
may
have
sort
of
respective
comments
to
add
from
our
individual
perspectives,
but
again
I
I
just
certainly
on
behalf
of
the
library
I
want
to
continue
to
articulate
support
for
this.
The
creation
of
this
commission
and
I'm
certainly
willing
to
participate
and
it's
exciting,
to
see
this
move
forward,
particularly
given
the
breadth
and
diversity
of
scope
that
is,
is
envisioned.
D
C
D
However,
one
of
my
concerns
is
that
the
current
language
opens
it
up
to
be
possibly
too
broad,
depending
on
what
the
process
would
be
for
the
commission
to
evaluate
which
new
historical
events
formally
belong
within
this,
this
scope
and
the
the
intent
of
diversification
and
recognizing
those
parts
of
history
that
perhaps
have
not
gotten
all
the
attention
that
they
need
to
so
this
is.
This
is
more
of
a
comment
than
a
than
a
proposed
language
change,
or
at
least
request
for
for
for
clarification.
C
Yeah,
I
I
hear
you
on
it's
sort
of
how
do
we?
We
really
wanted
to
be
clear
that
you
know
there
might
be
some
other
things
that
this
commission
is
going
to
want
to
focus
event
and
et
cetera,
planning
on
and
we
didn't
want
to.
We
didn't
want
to
pre-judge
that
it
was
just
the
cesar
centennial
in
the
400th,
but
I
hear
you
on
like
it
can't
it
can't
become
literally
every
day
in
the
history
of
the
city.
I
I
wonder
if
potentially.
C
One
way
of
dealing
with
that
could
be
to
be
a
little
more
specific
about
the
fact
that
the
timeline
subcommittee
is
gonna,
like
figure
that
out
and
make
a
recommendation
to
the
mayor
about
it.
That's
just
a
thought
of
mine,
but
I
think
we
can
put
a
we
can
put
a
pin
in
that
and
think
about
it
over
the
next
few
days.
D
Right,
I
mean
it
maybe
involve
using
words
like
primary
or
significant
in
a
way
that
gives
the
commission
the
ability
to
be
more
inclusive,
but
without
feeling
under
pressure
to
go
too
far,
for
whatever
definition
of
too
far
might
be.
The
second
and
my
only
other
comment
relates
to
the
first
two
of
the
three
subcommittees.
D
So
if
we
want
to
scroll
down
to
ultimately
the
more
descriptive
yep
there
we
go.
So
from
our
point
of
view,
we
see
a
substantial
overlap
between
the
work
and
scope
of
events
and
trails
as
defined
with
timeline
and
exhibits,
and
I'm
wondering
if
some
of
that
relates
to
the
use
of
the
word
exhibits
which
in
our
case
you
know,
we
think
of
exhibitions,
exhibits
and
events
as
all
being
part
of
one
one
initiative.
D
C
C
What
we
were
just
talking
about
and
and
like
actually
kind
of
say,
like
oh
here,
are
some
key
occasions
that
we
should
be
focused
on,
and
so
I
wonder
if
maybe
almost
we
should
be
thinking
about
timelines
and
curricula
and
pushing
exhibits
into
the
first
one
or
something
you
know
what
I
mean
and
just
acknowledging
that
it's
going
to
be
a
big
overlapping.
I
don't
know
I
that's.
This
is
just
a
first
sort
of
gut
reaction.
I
think.
D
Yeah,
I
think
you,
your
reaction,
captures
exactly
the
concern
that
we
were.
We
were
spotting,
it's
just
based
upon
how
it's
real
again,
there's,
there's,
no
there's
no
criticism
or
lack
of
support
for
the
intent
here.
It's
just
really
about
clarifying
the
scope
of
each
working
group
so
that
they
know
what
they're,
what
they're
focused
on.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
okay,
let's,
let's
also
maybe
put
a
little
bit
of
a
pin
in
that,
but
we
could
circle
back
with
you,
david
and
think
about.
I
mean
I
guess
the
tricky
bit.
I
think
the
thing
the
thing
that
got
us
there
was
the
idea
that
we
have
a
bunch
of
like
archival
and
local
history
experts
and
that
the
kind
of
conversations
about
sort
of
like
the
content,
conversations
about
timelines,
exhibits
and
curricula
kind
of
belong
together
and
there's.
A
C
More
of
an
operational
organizational
conversation
that
characterizes
events,
trails
and,
in
some
ways
the
the
execution
of
exhibits
right,
which
is
like
a
little
bit
like.
I
think,
right,
you,
you
probably
have
some
distinction,
even
within
the
library,
between
who's
working
with
the
documents
and
who's
figuring
out,
how
it's
all
going
to
be
laid
out
in
an
exhibit
and
where
and
like
who's
going
to
come
and
what
dates
and
all
that
jazz
right.
So
so
I
think
that
was
sort
of
part.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
want
to
oversimplify,
but
it
almost
seems
like
one
of
the
questions
being
asked
here
is:
what
do
we
have
or
what
do
we
think
we
should
have
that's
missing
and
then
the
other
question
is:
what
do
we
do
about
it
and
what
how
do
we
celebrate
it
and
raise
it
up?
So
again?
No!
No,
no
question
about
the
right
intent,
but,
but
how
best
to
describe
and
group
these
activities
together.
C
A
D
E
What
would
those
50
things
be,
but
there's
still
the
bigger,
I
think
question
and
value
that
we
have
around
people
being
able
to
lift
up
their
histories
and
stories
as
those
continue
in
real
time
right,
whether
that's
like
your
oral
history
or
kind
of
like
everyday
lived
experience
or
whatever.
That
might
be.
E
So
I
think
that's
that's
the
much
mushier
part
of
this,
but
I
think
there's
a
way
to
set
up
both
of
those
conversations
through
this
work,
because
in
order
to
to
talk
about
that
one
comprehensively,
we
do
need
something
like
this.
That
brings
all
these
different
commissions
and
departments
to
the
table.
But
I
wonder
if
that's
something
that
we
can
set
up
with
some
framing
and
some
key
questions,
and
I
do
think
that
what
do
we
do
now
in
a
little
bit
of
that
survey
of
who's?
E
You
know
the
demographics
of
who
created
the
art
what's
in
the
art,
and
even
though
we
have
a
lot
of
assumptions
that
are
correct
about
what's
missing
and
what's
over-represented
like
having
that
evidence-based
approach
is
also
really
helpful
and
helps
us
think
about.
Okay,
if
we're
going
to
do
public
engagement
coming
out
of
that
to
help
source
like
what's
missing,
we
can
be
then
really
focused
about
what
that
looks
like.
So
I
think
it's
kind
of
for
me
also
balancing
that
expertise
with
with
broader
engagement
and
like
what
does
a
living
process.
C
Yeah,
no,
that
makes
sense
cara,
and
I
think
I
mean
I
think,
to
some
extent
I'm
hesitant.
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
over
encode
like
key
questions
and
and
community
engagement
processes
and
whatever
into
legislation,
because
I
want
like
the
commission
to
be
able
to
to
do
that
in
a
dynamic
good
way,
but
but
I
do
think
maybe
we
need
to
think
a
little
bit
about
how
do
we
get
the
language
to
convey
like?
Certainly
one
of
my
hopes
with
this
is
just
as
with
the
built
environment.
C
I
think
we
need
different
tools
that
enable
us
to
preserve
community
history
buildings
like
all
over
the
city
and
for
you
know,
somebody
who
lives
in
a
in
a
neighborhood
of
the
city
with
less
development
and
less
money.
That's
been
going
into
historic
resources
to
have
a
shot
at
you
know
at
sort
of
marshalling
those.
I
think
that's
really
important
right.
C
Similarly,
like
you
know,
my
hope
would
be
not
just
that
for
these
anniversaries
we
end
up
with
some
new
bps
curricular
modules
related
to
local
history,
but
that
we
actually
end
up
with
a
process
for
bps
to
kind
of
say.
Oh
every
year,
we've
got
a
new
local
history
module,
that's
like
coming
online
right,
so
that
we
know
that
our
young
people
are
going
to
learn
the
history
of
boston
in
an
exciting,
interesting,
diverse,
inclusive
way,
right
or
or
like
with
the
archives.
Right.
C
F
E
Yeah,
I
think
that
makes
perfect
sense
and
I
think
that's
I
think.
Maybe
then
it's
like
baking
in
some
of
these
questions,
so
at
least
they're
kind
of
attached
to
the
commission
and
give
us
like
a
little
bit
of
a
direction,
and
I
do
think
it's
a
useful
exercise
to
name
some
of
the
barriers
that
we
do
know,
even
though
they
might
seem
really
obvious
like.
E
I
think
that
something
that
we've
run
into
is
how
much
cultural
preservation
that's
not
tied
to
buildings
and
structures
right
like
if
we're
trying
to
create
space
for
rituals
or
traditions
or
memories
or
other
things
like
they
don't
necessarily
have
a
kind
of
commission
structure
that
goes
with
them.
A
lot
of
our
commission's
about
objects
and
and
buildings
right,
and
so
there's
some
stuff
like
that.
E
That
I
think,
if
we,
if
we
name
it,
even
though
that's
kind
of
a
simple
starting
point,
it
helps
us
think
about
what
we
could
be
doing
differently,
but
really
excited
for
for
the
opportunity
for
all
of
these
to
come
together
and
to
also
think
long
term.
This
is
you,
don't
usually
get
a
chance
to
do
that
right.
G
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time.
I
I
just
would
we're
totally
supportive
of
this
every
and
you
know,
I'm
I'm
really
glad
that
we're
starting
this
now
and
our
office
sometimes
gets
pushed
in
at
the
very
last
minute
and
all
sorts
of
stuff.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
be
part
of
this
from
the
beginning
and
anything
we
can
do
to
help
facilitate
where.
G
C
I
Should
the
ordinance
and
the
commission
specifically
encourage
the
use
of
historical
records
and
primary
source
courses
to
support
programs
actively
explore
exploring
boston's
histories
through
original
research
exhibitions
and
public
discussion.
So
with
the
upcoming
commemorations,
focusing
our
attention
on
history?
C
J
C
C
K
No,
I
just
want
to
add
that
we've
been
working
with
roseanne
and
her
team
on
revising
the
article
85,
the
demolition
delays.
I
know
that's
underway
so
at
some
point
folks,
like
brian
glasscock
who's
been
part
of
that
whole
discussion
might
be
important,
as
the
third
subcommittee
gets
more
underway
on
on
sort
of
enhancing
our
preservation
activities
throughout
the
city.
So
I
think
you
know
we're
willing
to
work
and
help
as
much
as
we
can,
especially
whether
it's
revising
the
zoning
to
adopt
a
stronger
demolition,
delay,
ordinance
or
other
pieces
of
that.
K
C
No
worries
at
all,
and
thank
you
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
and
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
all
excited
that
some
work
is
underway
on
the
article
85
front
and,
and
I
think
hoping
that
we
can,
we
can
think
about
what
a
more
robust
article
85
works
better
for.
Everyone
looks
like
in
combination
right
with
a
whole
bunch
of
resources
and
tools
for
for
effective
and
equitable
historic
preservation.
So
I
think
bringing
this
is
why
we're
so
glad
that
bpda
is
included
in
the
mix
here.
K
Want
to
add
that
the
demolition
delay
orders
in
some
ways
to
stick,
and
I
think,
hopefully,
through
this
committee,
we
could
figure
out
more
carrots
to
I
know,
that's
what
roseanne's
always
been
talking.
How
do
we
encourage
people
to
preserve
their
buildings
rather
than
sort
of
saying
it?
You
have
to
go
through
a
demolition
delay,
ordinance
that
it
really
should
be.
The
first
part
of
any
discussion
is:
how
can
you
preserve
the
building,
so
that's.
What
my
goal
would
be
is
how
we
can
develop
more
carrots
and
less
sticks.
C
Absolutely
totally
agree
and
making
it
possible
for
people
right
like
making
making
adaptive
reuse
opportunities.
Clear,
helping
people
know
things
up
front,
so
they
can
plan
from
the
beginning,
with
a
kind
of
you
know,
goal
around
the
use
of
the
building
tied
up
with
historic
reservation
opportunities
and
and
yeah,
and
trying
martial
resources
for
those
carrots,
so
yeah
strongly
agree.
Michael.
Thank
you,
reverend
whitehammon.
H
No
I'm
just
listening,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
exciting.
I
think
folks
have
leaned
into
some
of
the
technical
details.
We
obviously
support
it.
I
mean,
I
think
I've
shared
with
you.
We
are
interested
in
sort
of
understanding,
who's,
gonna
bottom
line
and
some
of
those
those
those
questions
of
like
how
we
we
move
some
of
these
things
forward.
But
I
think
that
is
not
that's,
not
an
ordinance
level.
Conversation
that's,
but
looking
forward
to
collaborating
with
all
the
folks
on
here.
C
Yes,
no
fair,
absolutely,
I
think
yeah
not
in
the
ornaments,
but
definitely
on
the
execution
side,
who's,
who's,
sort
of
like
owning
various
things
is
going
to
be
important.
We
all
know
that,
but
we
won't
try
to
write
it
into
the
law
so
and
and
roseanne
I
saw
you
put
your
camera
on.
Did
you
have
some
comments
from
the
landmarks
commission.
J
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
you
know,
be
the
broken
record
again:
bringing
up
archaeology
as
part
of
preservation
in
boston,
and
I'm
not
sure
you
know
how
or
where
to
fit
that.
But
it
would
be
good
to
to
have
it
in
a
place
of
prominence,
because
that
will
that
will
impact
on
how
we
interpret
indigenous
culture
right.
So.
C
C
You
know
the
city's
archaeology
department
represented
at
the
table
on
the
commission,
but
I
also
think
that
to
your
point
there's
I
think
so
it's
both
it's
both
probably
putting
them
in
the
commitment
itself
and
then
also
as
we
describe
the
sort
of
scope
and
in
these
subcommittees
mentioning
the
archaeological
dimension.
I
think
you're
totally
right.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
that
we
neglected
to
get
that
in
after
the
last
time.
L
All
I
can
say
is
I'm
assuming
that
the
best
fit
for
me
will
be
the
preservation
tools
committee,
and
I,
when
can
we
start,
is
all
I
want
to
know
so,
thanks
for
including
me
and
I
mean
there's
there's
I
I
feel
a
great
deal
of
urgency
here,
at
least
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
there's
so
much.
We
need
to
do
so.
That's
right.
C
Thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
as
the
chair
of
landmarks,
commission
really
appreciate
it
and
all
that
you're
willing
to
do
in
joining
us
in
this
effort,
though,
so
I
I
think,
mr
chairman,
I've
run
through
all
of
the
all
of
the
administration
officials
on
the
call
with
us
unless
anybody
had
something
they
neglected
to
say,
and
certainly
our
next
steps
would
be
to
share
with
your
office.
You
know
we
we'd.
Take
all
we've
been
taking
notes
on
all
these
comments
and
to
try
to
try
to
do
some.
C
B
That
doesn't,
and
just
while
we
have
a
second
michelle
goldberg
is
on
obviously
she's
the
the
the
committee
liaison
michelle.
Is
there
any
outstanding
issues
that
you
need
address,
given
that
you're
gonna
be
sort
of
doing
some
of
the
final
putting
the
final
touches
on
the
drafts
and
the
red
lines?
So
is
there
anything
that
you
need
to
ask
either
through
the
chair
or
through
kenzi
of
the
administration
or
any
of
our
guests?.
F
C
And
then
I
know,
mr
chair,
that
we
have
a
couple
of
folks
who
were
joining
us
today
to
testify
a
few
on
the
list,
and
I
see
at
least
two
of
them
here
right
now.
Jean-Luc
is
here
from
the
from
nicob
and
allison
frazie's
here
from
the
boston
preservation
alliance.
So
I
wondered
if,
if
an
appropriate
time
for
them
to
weigh
in
sure.
B
C
B
M
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
glad
to
be
here
and
part
of
this
conversation.
As
always,
I'm
allison
frazee,
I'm
assistant
director
of
the
boston
preservation
alliance,
we're
a
local
non-profit
that
advocates
for
historic
preservation
and
we're
excited
to
to
be
a
part
of
this
moving
forward.
We
don't,
I
don't,
have
any
specific
suggestions
for
the
language,
but
I
did
have
a
thought.
M
As
everyone
was
talking
today,
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
we
have
not
excelled
at
telling
the
whole
history
of
boston,
representing
all
the
different
stories
of
all
the
different
people
throughout
our
history,
and
I
think
it's
worth
taking
some
time
to
reflect
on
why
we've
not
excelled
at
doing
that.
Why
our
tools
don't
reflect
that
and
making
sure
that
we
don't
make
the
same
mistakes
again
that
we've
made
in
the
past.
So
I
think
we're
making
strides
to
do
that
by
making
sure
that
there's
wider
representation
on
these
subcommittees.
M
But
what
else
can
we
do
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
inclusive
and
thoughtful?
What
have
you
know?
What
have
we
not
done
right
in
the
past
that
we
can
correct
this
time?
I
think
we're
all.
Probably
doing
that
in
our
own
offices,
but
it
might
be
worth
a
broader
conversation
just
to
make
sure
we're
getting
it
right.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
time
on
this
and
we
look
forward
to
continued
engagement.
B
A
Hi,
my
name
is
jean-luc
perite
and
I
am
a
resident
of
jamaica,
plain
and
president
of
the
north
american
indian
center
of
boston.
So
just
a
just
a
quick
note
for
for
the
language
there
we're
not
the
native
american
indian
center
of
boston
where
the
north
american
indian
center
of
boston,
but
I
I
definitely
I
definitely
appreciate
the
the
updates,
of
course,
for
for
indigenous
nations.
We
are
not
just
a
a
monolithic
ethnic
group.
A
Rather
we
are
individual
nations
with
with
different
relationships
with
massachusetts
and
and
boston,
of
course,
north
american
indian
center
boston.
We
are
the
liaison
for
the
commonwealth
and
residents,
who
are
members
of
tribes
that
are
outside
of
the
current
borders,
so
thinking
about
penobscot
the
mickema.
Of
course.
We
call
ourselves
the
north
american
indian
center
of
boston,
because
we
we
provide
services
for
american,
indians
and
first
nations
that
come
here
from
canada
to
live
and
work,
and
there
is
definitely
a
complex
history
there.
A
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
some
of
the
the
comments
earlier,
of
course,
and
then
the
previous
comment
as
well
definitely
about
the
tools.
I
think
it's
it's
not
just
about
sort
of
like
refining
the
tools,
but
it's
also
improving
access
to
the
tools.
Of
course,
we
have
a
lot
of
capacity
issues
when
we
come
to
community
archives
and
community
serving
organizations.
A
So
we
definitely.
What
we
definitely
need
is
access
for
tools,
partnerships
between
institutions
and
community
members,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
have
a
full.
You
know
all
hands-on
board
telling
of
of
the
of
this
very
complex
history,
so
that
that's
all
I
had
to
add.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
time.
F
A
B
B
Okay
and
they
obviously
they
contact
you
either
by
phone
or
email.
Just
let
them
know
that
they
could
submit
their
testimony
to
the
committee
as
well,
if
we
missed
them.
So
at
this
point,
unless
I
see
any
additional
requests
for
public
testimony
that
will
close
the
public
testimony
portion
and
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
lead
sponsor
kinsley
bart
to
to
close
out.
C
Great
thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair,
and
and
to
both
allison
and
shaun
luke
for
testifying
and
sean
luke.
We
have
already
corrected
it
to
north
america,
in
my
apologies
but
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
for
weighing
in
today.
Like
I
said
my
office
will
take
on
the
work
of
of
doing
some
additional
red
lines
based
on
the
comments
today
and
you
know
and
really
try
to
capture.
B
Good,
so
that
will
conclude
the
3
p.m,
working
session
on
dark
at
0,
6,
3,
8,
and
the
matter
obviously
is
an
ordinance
to
create
the
boston
commemoration
commission,
and
at
this
time
the
chair
of
government
officer
via
the
vice
chair
will
adjourn
the
hearing.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
time
and
attention
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
afternoon.