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Docket #0297 - Regarding a City-Level Conservation Corps for Boston
C
B
E
D
E
You
thanks
carrie
all
right
folks,
we're
going
to
get
started,
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
open
it
up
and
then
turn
it
over
to
the
two
co-chairs.
And
then
the
chairs
are
the
the
authors
of
this,
and
then
we
will
get
to
testimony.
So
thank
you,
everybody
good
afternoon,
everyone.
My
name
is
matt
o'malley,
I'm
a
boston
city
council
representing
district
six,
as
well
as
the
chair
of
the
council's
committee
on
environment,
resiliency
and
parks.
E
E
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
working
session.
If
you
wish
to
testify
via
video
conference,
please
email,
ron.com,
that's
ron.cobb
boston.gov,
to
sign
up
when
you
are
called.
Please
state
your
name
affiliation
as
well
as
please
limit
your
comments
to
no
more
than
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
voices
can
be
heard.
Additionally,
you
may
feel
free
to
submit
written
testimony
by
emailing
this
committee.
E
The
address
is
c
c
city
council
committee,
ccc.esp
boston.gov
today
we'll
be
discussing
docket
number
0297
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
a
city
level
conservation
corps
for
boston.
This
was
sponsored
by
city,
councilors,
kenzie
bach
and
michelle
wu,
and
this
is
a
working
session.
Following
a
tremendously
successful
hearing
that
we
had
held
last
december
december
15th.
In
fact,
it
was
really
an
exciting
event
and
I'm
glad
that
the
sponsors
are
continuing
this
work
and
obviously
become
my
voice,
the
chorus
that
wholeheartedly
support
and
endorse
this.
E
The
goals
and
the
visions
are
so
needed,
particularly
during
this
time,
as
we
rebuild
not
only
our
economy,
but
also
a
planet
with
a
real
focus
on
environmental
resiliency.
E
I
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation
at
this
pro
working
session
to
discuss
the
feasibility
of
implementing
a
program
and
really
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
our
colleagues
from
philadelphia
who
are
going
to
discuss
their
power
core
model,
which
is
something
that
I
think
has
already
been
proven
to
be
enormously
successful
and
hope.
We
can
replicate
a
similar
type
program
here
in
the
city.
So
now
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
to
councillor
bach.
E
For
her
introductions
and
then
counselor
wu
and
then
we'll
do
a
quick
round-robin
city
counselors
before
we
get
into
the
panels
so
counselor
back
the
floor
is
yours.
F
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here
today.
As
councillor
o'malley
said
we
filed
this
last
year.
It
really
came
actually
in
response
to
a
bunch
of
conversations
that
we
were
having
at
budget
season.
F
You
know
I
asked
the
environment
department
and
the
office
of
economic
development
and
public
works,
how
we
could
be
spending
more
of
our
capital
money
on
the
environmental
projects.
We
need
to
actually
meet
the
city's
climate
goals
and
think
about
how
to
spend
that
money
in
ways
that
create
a
boston-based
local
workforce,
with
opportunities
for
our
black
and
brown
youth,
especially
so
that
we
can
really
both
rebuild
the
economy
and
build
towards
a
climate
future
in
the
city
at
the
timeline.
F
Frankly,
that
we
need
to
meet
the
urgency
of
both
issues,
and
so
we're
excited
to
file
this
and
then
have,
as
was
mentioned,
a
great
hearing,
conversation
in
the
fall,
and
I'm
really
grateful
to
chief
cook
who's
with
us
again
today,
for
for
showing
up
and
being
such
an
active
participant
in
that,
and
also
to
tren
nguyen
who
was
with
us
from
the
office
of
workforce
development.
F
Because
one
of
the
things
that
we've
learned
in
this
whole
process
is
that
to
really
get
something
big
going
here
in
the
city,
something
that
we
could
ramp
up
to
really
change
the
pace
of
this
work,
both
on
the
workforce,
development
front
and
the
and
in
terms
of
the
green
infrastructure
of
our
city.
We're
going
to
need
a
bunch
of
departments
all
working
together.
F
So,
as
I
said,
we've
talked
to
yee
our
youth
program,
owd
our
workforce
development
corps
and
then
chief
chief
cook,
from
our
whole
kind
of
environmental
and
green
space
cabinet,
and
today
we're
really
excited
to
be
joined
by
boston,
water
and
sewer.
Because
so
much
of
the
green
infrastructure
that
we
need
to
talk
about
in
our
city
is
stuff.
That's
under
their
care
and
the
hearing
back
in
the
in
the
fall.
F
We
focused
in
particular
on
urban
forestry
and
a
bunch
of
the
of
the
existing
smaller
programs
that
we've
got
in
the
city
around
that
and
the
opportunities
to
really
ramp
that
up
under
under
commissioner
woods's
leadership.
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
we
used
to
just
have
a
lot
more
public
jobs,
even
in
the
worlds
of
parks
and
public
works,
and
that
we
really
scaled
back
on
that
and
that
in
many
ways
our
infrastructure.
F
It
needs
us
to
scale
up
again
if
we're
going
to
meet
our
climate
goals
and
it
needs
us
to
do
it
in
a
way-
that's
equitable
and
offers
a
real
job
pipeline
for
our
local
talent
in
boston.
I
would
love
it
to
be
that
we
come
out
of
this
process
figuring
out
how
to
have
a
conservation
corps
that
not
only
lets
us
do
a
ton
of
this
important
work
in
boston,
but
means
that
we're
training
the
people
that
everyone
else
in
the
city
and
the
country
wants
to
hire.
F
But
we
do
have
some
competition
on
that
front
from
philadelphia
in
fact
they're
a
bit
ahead
of
us.
So
one
of
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
real
challenges
about
covid
and
having
to
do
our
hearings
and
things
online
in
covid.
But
one
advantage
is
the
fact
that
we
can
invite
partners
and
colleagues
from
other
cities
and
not
ask
them
to
all
hop
on
the
amtrak
to
come
up
and
join
us.
F
So
we're
really
excited
today
to
have
the
philadelphia
power
core
and
gerald
bright
from
the
city
side
of
their
sort
of
stormwater
management.
Who
was,
I
think,
very
instrumental
in
getting
this
going
so
that
we
really
have
an
opportunity
to
to
learn
from
what
a
city
to
our
south
also
a
historical
city.
You
know,
with
lots
of
similarities,
to
boston
what
they're
doing
and
how
we
can
steal
it
and
build
upon
it
so
really
excited
for
this
working
session.
F
We've
got
a
lot
of
our
amazing
advocates
in
boston
here
today
to
sort
of
focus,
questions
and
comments
on
specifically
like
the
philadelphia
model
and
how
we
can
build
on
that,
because
we
do
have
our
colleagues
here
today,
and
I
anticipate
that
in
partnership
with
councillor
wu,
this
will
be
a
continuing
conversation
as
we
work
with
the
departments
around
what
we
could
launch
in
the
immediate
term
and
how
we
could
really
build
capacity
around
this
going
forward,
so
so
excited
to
be
here
today
and
excited
about
all
the
work
that
is
to
come
so
and
and
also
grateful
for
when
constantinius
joined
us
from
mit
who's
been
studying
exactly
what
conservation
corps
type
programs
are
starting
to
look
like
in
cities
around
the
country
and
kind
of
what
the
opportunity
there
is.
F
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
E
C
Good
morning,
everyone
I'm
so
excited
for
this
conversation.
I'm
so
grateful
to
councillor
bach
for
her
leadership
and
inviting
me
to
partner
on
this,
I'm
very
excited
to
make
sure
that
boston
is,
is
stepping
out
again
we're
a
little
behind
we're
going
to
take
the
lead
very
grateful
to
philadelphia
for
helping
us
with
with
those
insights.
C
You
know
the
the
pandemic
and,
in
this
moment,
has
has
really
shown
what
communities,
and
particularly
black
and
brown
communities
have
known
all
along
that
the
scale
of
our
crises
even
before
coven
is
deep
and
that
they
are
so
interconnected
and
interlinked,
and
so
right
now
as
we're
thinking
about
a
recovery
grounded
in
public
health
recovery,
of
course,
and
the
vaccinations
in
creating
the
healthiest
most
resilient
communities,
so
that
we
will
not
be
in
this
position
again
relative
to
a
you
know:
knock
on
wood
potential,
future
pandemics,
the
economic
crisis
and
how
we
are
needing
to
strengthen
workers
who
have
been
essential
and
how
how
fragile
our
economy
has
been.
C
For.
So
many
who
continue
to
struggle
to
put
food
on
the
table
because
of
working
conditions
and
an
economy
that
has
not
been
fair
and
inclusive
of
everyone
and,
of
course,
our
climate
crisis
and
racial
wealth
gap
boston's.
I
think
twin,
underlying
challenges
that
are
that
are
most
urgent
across
every
community.
This
program
is
really
the
embodiment
of
how
we
start
to
address,
bring
forward
solutions
that
are
just
as
interlinked
and
tackle
all
of
these
crises
head
on.
G
Yeah,
it's
very
brief.
I
echo
this
the
sentiments
of
my
two
colleagues
counselor
and
counselor
bach.
I
think
this
is
a
tremendous
initiative.
I'm
looking
forward
to
learning
about
how
philadelphia
has
been
doing
this.
We
don't
need
to
reinvent
the
wing.
If
there's
a
good
model
out
there,
we
can
see
how
we
can
adapt
it
to
what
we're
doing
in
boston.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
and
thank
you.
H
You,
mr
chair,
and
also
to
the
to
the
sponsors,
very
interesting
concept,
I'm
I'm
in
theory
on
board.
I'd
like
to
you
know.
I
think
we
it
would
be
nice
if
we
could
use
this
as
a
way
to
build
and
train
a
city
workforce
that
we
could
bring
into
into
our
you
know
the
long-term
goal
I'd
be
interested
to
see.
H
You
know
when
we
get
deeper
into
this,
how
we,
as
the
city,
would
pay
for
it.
What
we're
thinking
interested
to
see
if
the
forthcoming
federal
dollars,
if
we
could,
if
we
could
get
get
something
going
with
with
that
money?
That
would
be
nice
nice
to
see
john
sullivan
here.
So
we
could.
We
can
really,
no
pun,
intended
dig
into
the
water
issues
that
we're
having
around
you
know
come
up
with
plans
for
infrastructure
around.
You
know,
between
john
and
chris
cook
and
and
ryan
at
the
parks
apartment.
H
There's
a
there's,
a
wealth
of
things
that
we
could
tackle
and
undertake.
If
we
had
a
workforce,
a
labor
force
and
and
march
is
actually
my
35th
year
in
the
in
the
city
of
boston
as
an
employee,
and
I
was
part
of
labor
cuts.
So
I'm
I'm
about
I'm
about
building
a
force
that
we
we,
the
city,
would
be
able
to
control
and
do
our
own,
our
own
thought
out
infrastructure
project.
So
in
theory,
I'm
I'm
I'm
quite
interested
in
this,
and
thank
you
for
the
hearing
today.
E
Thank
you
and
happy
anniversary,
councilman
baker.
That's
great!
Thank
you
for
your
your
long
time
service,
great
service,
all
right,
so
I
believe
we're
going
to
begin
with
the
administration's
panel
and
that
will
be
chief
chris
cook
from
eeos.
Commissioner
ryan,
woods
of
the
parks
department,
john
sullivan
chief
engineer
of
boston,
water
and
sewer,
and
thank
you
for
wearing
a
tie,
mr
sullivan,
and
I
believe
trenwen
will
be
joining
us
in
a
little
bit.
Counselor
block
is
that
correct.
F
I'm
not
sure
if
trent
can
make
it
today
and
we
did
have
her
at
the
last
one.
But
I
know
that
owd
is
paying
attention
and
plugged
in
sorry.
E
Fair
enough,
I
have
a
little
ad
trend
if
she
arrives
so
chief
cook.
The
floor
is
yours.
You
want
to
take
it
away
for
any
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
we'll
get
right
into
kind
of
answers.
Questions.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
counselor
o'malley,
first
off
for
holding
the
hearing.
Obviously
thank
you
to
the
sponsors,
counselor
bach
counselor
wu.
I
also
want
to
thank
you
counselor
o'malley,
for
my
usable,
reusable
straw,
that
I'm
using
today.
So
thank
you
for
that.
You
know
we're
here
to
learn
we're
excited
to
learn
from
our
colleagues
in
philadelphia
and
really
establish
those
connections
between
the
cradle
of
liberty
and
and
the
liberty
bell
and
strengthen
our
climate
resilience
as
we
learn
these
best
practices.
I
But
I
I
especially
want
to
thank,
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
the
leadership
of
folks,
like
commissioner
woods
at
boston
parks
who
has
put
to
work
hundreds
of
people
in
the
city
of
boston
with
the
budget
that
was
given
to
us
by
the
mayor
and
by
the
city
council.
I
I
also
want
to
thank
tren
nguyen
of
the
workforce
development
and
all
the
the
hard
work
she
does,
especially
focusing
on
opportunities
for
socially
vulnerable
populations,
and
you
know
we're
joined
again
today
by
john
sullivan,
the
chief
engineer
of
boston,
water
and
sewer
commission,
who
has
really
been
looking
at
the
opportunities
of
expanding
workforce
while
also
providing
resiliency,
and
you
know
something
that
we
really
take
for
granted
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
clean,
reliable
water.
I
I
You
know
racism
is
a
public
health
crisis
and
the
climate
crisis
puts
our
socially
vulnerable
populations
and
our
populations
of
color
even
more
at
risk.
On
top
of
that,
but
through
crisis,
there
is
always
opportunity.
So
today
the
administration
is
here
to
learn
again
from
our
colleagues
with
that.
I
will
just
give
the
floor
over
to
ryan
woods
for
a
bit
of
context.
I
We
discussed
this
at
length
at
the
last
at
the
last
hearing,
so
we
will
be
brief,
but
I
want
to
give
them
a
little
bit
of
context
of
what
we
did
last
summer
in
response
to
pandemic
and
trying
to
create
workforce
opportunities
for
city
kids.
Commissioner,.
J
Thank
you,
chief,
this
past
summer,
obviously
being
a
unique
summer
for
us,
we
were
met
with
the
challenge
of.
We
couldn't
have
a
lot
of
our
normal
jobs.
K
J
J
Some
of
them
were
more
engaged
than
others.
Some
days
were
more
based
on
trash
pickup
and
making
sure
that
parks
remain
safe,
welcoming
clean
just
like
the
mission
of
the
parks
department,
but
throughout
this
whole
summer
program
we
saw
the
excitement
that
kids
liked
to
work
outdoors.
They
enjoyed
being
involved
in
the
community.
J
So
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
hear
what
our
folks
from
philadelphia
have
to
say
and
how
we
could
build
this
conservation
core.
The
one
missing
link
that
we
noticed
we
had
this
summer
was
that
we
did
not
have
as
many
experts.
Our
supervisors
were
college-age,
kids,
that
you
know
supervised
the
the
youth
time
sheets
made
sure
everyone
was
reporting
each
day,
but
they
weren't
really
skilled
enough
to
teach
the
lessons
to
the
kids.
You
have
great
opportunities
with
that.
J
We've
seen
through
the
emerald
necklace
conservancy
with
pat
alvarez,
who
I
know,
is
watching
along
today
in
southwest
boston,
cdc
where
groups
do
these
projects,
especially
in
our
urban
wild
areas
where
they
learn
skills
such
as
rise
over
run.
They
put
stuff
that
they're
learning
in
school,
with
outdoor
in
nature
and
there's,
for
example,
looking
at
what
is
a
bioswale
learning
about
bioswales?
J
How
big
does
this
biosoil
have
to
be
to
retain
the
amount
of
water
that's
coming
down,
so
the
life
skills
and
lessons,
and
that's
something
that
we
hope
to
grow
and
in
order
to
have
that,
we
need
more
leaders,
more
supervisors
that
have
those
skills
to
teach
these
youth,
get
them
excited
and
give
them
that
job
readiness
training.
So
they
want
to
continue
in
these
type
of
fields.
J
I
Thank
you
so
so
counselor,
you
know
tren
will
be
joining
us
a
little
bit
later,
but
john
sullivan,
the
chief
engineer
of
water
and
sewer,
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
say
any
few
words
john
yeah.
L
I
want
to
first
say
I
appreciate
being
invited.
We
need
to
be
part
of
this.
As
you
all
recall,
we
have
an
obligation
to
do
green
infrastructure
with
the
consent
decree
with
the
epa
and
the
federal
court
over
the
next
30
years.
We
have
already
completed
central
square
audubon
circle
and
we're
going
to
have
a
fantastic
green
infrastructure
on
city
hall
plaza,
which
is
under
construction
right
now.
L
We
already
have
built
five
demonstration:
green
infrastructures
at
the
boston,
public
schools,
and
we
developed
a
curriculum
approved
by
the
state
to
be
taught
in
all
public
schools
in
massachusetts.
So
we
can
teach
our
youth
the
value
of
all
of
this
and
then
that's
going
along
fine.
We
we're
putting
together
a
manual
on
gi
you'll,
be
seeing
that
we
have
over
2
000
green
infrastructure
structures
built
on
private
property
throughout
the
city.
L
Everyone
that
wants
to
build
in
the
city
gets
to
join
in
and
work
with
us
on
green
infrastructure.
Therein
lies
the
problem
we
have
built
them.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
maintain
them.
We
have
been
working
with
dave,
queeley
out
of
cotton
square
cnc
to
train
additional
people
and
get
them
certified,
so
they
understand
what's
going
on
and
and
perhaps
have
them
work
with
these
privates
now,
how
will
we
get
them
to
do
that?
We
are
evaluating
a
stormwater
fee
because
we
need
to
justifiably
are
charged
properly
the
people.
L
The
big
parking
lot-
should
be
paying
more
than
the
person
with
a
little
house
to
upgrade
this
and
remember
this
is
our
city
and
what's
important
to
that
is
boss.
Water
sewer
owns
no
land.
We
can
only
do
green
infrastructure
on
other
people's
lands
on
public
roadways
parks
or
any
other
public
property
that
we
have.
So
we
need
to
work
with
the
city
and
don't
think
we
haven't
been
watching
philadelphia,
new
york
and
dc.
They
were
addressing
the
problem
for
cso
control.
We've
been
working
years.
L
The
thing
we've
learned
is
that
the
early
bird
gets
the
worm,
but
it's
the
second
rat
that
gets
the
cheese.
So
we
we
learned
from
their
mistakes,
and
that's
what's
so
important-
is
to
evaluate
what
everyone's
doing
take
the
best
of
the
best
and
apply
it
here
and-
and
I
have
all
the
faith
in
the
world
that
we're
going
to
come
out
as
number
one
on
running
the
green
infrastructure.
I
Yeah
so
counselor,
we,
you
know,
there's
nothing
more
to
elaborate
after
that
statement
by
john
sullivan,
so
we
will
turn
it
back
to
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
E
And
please
to
our
friends
in
philadelphia.
Rat
is
absolutely
a
term
of
endearment
in
the
the
hub
of
the
universe.
So
well
said
all
so,
given
the
fact
that
this
is
a
working
session
and
and
had
the
pandemic
not
been
happening,
we
would
be
sitting
around
a
table
in
the
curly
room
right
now.
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
foster
as
much
of
sort
of
that
easy
back
and
forth.
So,
rather
than
going
around
robin
set
of
questions
from
counselors
after
every
panel.
E
I'd
now
like
to
ask
our
colleagues
from
philadelphia,
julia,
helen,
gas
and
and
gerald
bright.
If
they
would
give
our
presentation
and
then
maybe
we
can
facilitate,
you
know
more
of
a
sort
of
a
question
and
answer
and
and
less
formalized
conversation
about
this
with
folks
from
the
administration
provided.
That's
that's
good
with
everybody.
Also
on
drug
knowledge.
Counselor
flynn
has
joined
us
as
well
from
district
two
welcome
counselor
flynn,
so
miss
helen
gas.
Mr
bright,
would
you
like
to.
E
Great
yeah
there
you
go.
A
Yep
and
while
I'm
doing
that
just
want
to
introduce
the
other
folks
from
philly,
so
folks
who
knows
who's
in
the
room,
so
I'm
the
co-founder
and
executive
director
of
powercore
phl,
I
actually
started
as
a
as
a
city
employee
when
we
are
founding
it
as
a
the
deputy
service
officer
under
our
civic
engagement
office.
Gerald
bright
is
is,
was
one
of
the
founding
staff
people
from
colombia
water
at
the
time
and
continues
to
be
involved.
Mark
camarada,
also
from
philadelphia
waters
on
today,
but
also
for
my
team.
A
Jasmine
oglesby
is
our
director
of
trauma-informed
practice
and
oversees
supportive
services.
All
the
wraparound
services
that
you
would
think
of
on
top
of
the
technical
skills,
as
well
as
ali
martinez
and
zamir
williams,
are
both
alumni
of
the
program
and
currently
in
leadership
roles
with
us.
So
if
you're
looking
to
hear
directly
about
folks
experiences
in
the
program,
ask
them
to
be
here
today
and
they're
they're
happy
to
talk
about
their
experience
as
well.
So
to
start
you
know,
this
is
our
mission.
A
We
advance
the
community
while
connecting
people
to
careers,
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
we
do
at
this
point
in
time,
so
we
started
in
2013
in
the
recession,
so
one
I
just
want
to
thank
counselors
for
having
the
vision
to
talk
about
this
now,
to
have
the
urgency
to
talk
about
this
now
and
to
remind
to
sort
of
encourage
you
that,
yes,
we're
going
through
a
lot.
Yes
we're
going
through
multiple
pandemics
and
we
were
born
out
of
a
recession
as
well,
and
it's
definitely
the
right
time
to
do
it.
A
Since
then,
we've
expanded
quite
a
bit
so
you'll
see
you
know
bottom
bottom
left
of
the
screen.
That's
our
grain
of
structure,
crew,
maintenancing,
surface
surface
tree
trenches
top
left
is
our
now
our
solar
electrical
academy
that
we've
built
out
over
the
past
year
or
two.
We
also
have
an
urban
forestry
crew
that
are
climbing
in
trees,
using
wood,
chippers
heavy
equipment.
Things
like
that.
That
also
was
built
out
in
the
past
two
years
and
then
our
sort
of
standard
parks
work
on
the
bottom
right.
A
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
visual
because
again
coven
notwithstanding,
we
would
be
inviting
you
down
to
site
visit
I'd,
take
you
around
all
the
sites
and
you
guys
could
see
it
in
action
for
yourself.
So
I
just
want
to
share
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
you
know
the
basic
blueprint
we
recruit,
obviously
very
targeted
to
a
certain
demographic
of
young
people
who
you
know
are
out
of
school
out
of
work
or
underemployed
right.
A
So
we
know
that
sometimes
folks
can
get
sort
of
retail
jobs
they're
not
getting
a
lot
of
hours,
there's
not
a
lot
of
mobility,
and
so
we're
really
targeting
those
young
people.
We
have
a
specific
focus
in
philadelphia,
also
on
returning
citizens
or
folks
who
are
under
supervision
permission
parole.
We
recruit
them
in
to
something
called
the
foundations
phase.
That's
what
we
originally
started
with
was
just
that.
So
that's
you
know
crew-based
conservation
core.
What
you
think
of
when
you
think
of
youth
conservation
corps.
A
We
have
our
staff
people
who
have
experience
in
both
trauma-informed
care,
but
also
in
environmental
stewardship,
running
those
crews
and
they're,
getting
work
orders
and
we
complete
a
scope
of
work
for
our
parks
and
water
department.
That's
how
we
started
and
we
did
that
for
about
four
or
five
years,
just
running
about
six
of
those
crews,
all
throughout
the
city,
as
we
really
collaborated
deeply
with
the
water
department
and
other
city
departments.
A
What
we
found
is
that
the
needs
of
the
city
were
more
sophisticated,
more
technical
than
that,
and
so
we
really
worked
to
build
out
a
second
phase
of
the
program.
So
after
you
complete
your
four
months
and
foundations,
you,
as
a
young
person,
have
learned
to
cut
some
skills.
You
explored
what
you
think
you
like
you,
don't
like
what
you
think
is
a
good
fit,
and
then
you
apply
into
much
more
technical
and
career
specific
tracks
in
your
second
phase,
of
which
there
are
many
many
options
and
that's
when
it
starts
to
get
very
customized.
A
The
whole
inspiration
from
that
now
happy
to
have
gerald
talk
about
this.
More
was
our
partnership
with
water
that
forced
us
to
make
our
very
first
industry
academy
in
green
stormwater
infrastructure
to
really
go
deeper
into
technical
skills,
teach
folks
how
to
work
at
pace
so
that
when
they're
transitioning
into
either
city
employment
or
private
sector
employment,
they
can
make
that
transition
from
a
trainee
to
an
apprentice
or
to
an
employee,
much
quicker,
pushing
the
pace.
We
now
have
green
infrastructure
academy,
solar
academy,
urban
partnership
academy.
This
is
our
youth
work
track.
A
We
often
get
young
people
who
come
to
us
and
realize
that
they
really
want
to
do
what
our
staff
do,
which
is
working
with
young
people,
coaching
them,
mentoring
them
and
and
they're
now,
either
2.3
of
our
staff
or
alumni,
but
they
also
work
in
culture
and
climate
positions
in
schools
and
other
non-profits
other
violence
prevention,
outreach
positions,
things
like
that,
and
then
we
have
something
called.
We
call
fellowships,
which
is
essentially
paid
internships
that
are
hosted
by
other
community-based
organizations
and
those
are
very
individualized.
A
So
if
a
young
person
really
wants
to
do
something
around
food
justice,
we
find
an
organization
they
host
them.
We
still
subsidize
their
pay
and
they
get
this
very
robust
career
experience
for
folks
who
are
unfamiliar
almost
so.
A
So
when
they
sit
for
those
civil
service
tests,
they
can
earn
up
to
five
additional
preference
points
depending
on
how
long
they've
served
in
america-
or
it
doesn't
just
have
to
be
power
core
any
americorps.
So
city
year
is
included
in
that
any
americorps
program,
but
it's
in
recognition
of
their
domestic
and
civil
service.
The
same
way
that
we
recognize
veterans
a
little
bit
less
in
terms
of
preference
point
and
scale,
but
that's
something
that
you
know
I
can.
A
I
can
talk
at
another
time
about
how
we
really
had
that
conversation
with
civil
service
and
talk
that
through
and
then
stats
on
on
us.
So
you
know
this
is
not.
These
are
not
quotas,
but
this
is
what
our
you
know.
The
average
of
our
demographics
are
when
I
said
we're
doing
targeted
recruitment
so
again,
like
40
are
parents,
young
parents,
both
men
and
women,
and
so
really,
when
you're
you're
paying
people
for
their
time
you're
impacting
not
the
individual,
but
that
whole
family
unit
as
well?
A
And
these
are
our
tenants.
So
we
specifically
recruit
untapped
talent.
We
work
directly
with
employers,
many
cases,
those
employers
are
the
city
themselves.
The
apartments
themselves,
sometimes
they're,
not
we
do
quite
a
bit
of
work
with
private
contractors
as
well.
We
pay
people
for
their
time
while
they're
in
training
and
work
experiences,
and
our
goal
is
to
get
people
into
high
quality
jobs,
so
they
can
continue
to
move
forward
with
their
careers
and
that
we
strongly
believe
that
if
you
help
that
you
can
help
young
people
and
individuals
through
helping
the
community
at
large.
A
Finally,
there's
a
little
bit
more
about
those
those
those
industry
academies
that
I
spoke
about,
and
I
can
send
these
slides
afterwards
as
well,
like
I
said,
very
directly,
co-developed
with
philadelphia
water
department,
I'll
move
it
to
general
in
a
second
and
then
refined
through
industry
groups
and
private
sector
contractors
and
feedback,
as
that,
as
that
landscape
has
evolved,
we've
also
evolved
with
that
same
with
urban
forestry
co-developed,
with
our
parks
department,
as
well
as
bartlett
trees,
really
addressing
some
job
quality
issues
in
landscaping,
defensively,
seasonal
and
then
same
with
solar
electrical.
A
Some
stats
of
ours,
like
I
said
you
know,
we're
very.
We
very
strongly
believe
that
we
are
addressing
racial
equity,
wealth
gap,
unemployment.
You
know
gun
violence
and
climate
issues.
At
the
same
time,
we
braid
everything
that
we
do
together
with
those
goals
in
mind
to
maximize
the
code
benefits.
So
we
get
quite
a
bit
of
of
city
funding,
of
state
funding
of
federal
funding
and
our
our
model
is
to
amplify
as
much
impact
as
possible
with
each
dollar,
and
so
these
are
some
of
our
stats
and
I'd
say
that
for
recidivism.
A
Just
to
put
that
in
context
for
folks
in
philadelphia,
the
average
residual
preservative
rate
is
45,
our
in
program
or
certificate
rate
is
three
percent,
and
one
year
post
is
still
only.
Obviously
you
want
that
lower.
But
when
you
compare
that
to
what
we're
seeing
for
someone
not
involved
in
power
core
at
all,
that's
about
45,
again
copen.
It
was
hard
when
it
first
hit
and
then
we
really
were
able
to
pivot
and
figure
it
out.
A
big
part
of
that.
A
I
think
you
guys
acknowledged
this,
because
most
of
our
work
is
outdoor
and
hands-on.
We're
able
to
socially
distance
and
be
safe
in
ways
that
are
are
easier
for
us
to
sort
of
operationalize.
A
We
moved
all
classroom
based
training
to
you,
know
virtual
to
zoom,
but
we're
able
to
continue
our
hands-on
training
almost
without
a
hitch.
You
know,
after
figuring
out
really
what
was
going
on
with
the
country
after
a
couple
months,
and
we
continue
to
do
that
now
and
we're
very
proud
that
we've
had
zero
community
spread
within
the
program
based
on
our
safety
protocols.
Based
on
you
know
how
we're
monitoring
the
situation
and
taking
taking
care
of
that
so
I'll
end.
M
All
right,
thanks
julia-
that
was
great.
You
know
I'll
jump
in
with
some
specifics
to
water's
involvement,
but
I'll
introduce
myself
briefly.
So
I'm
gerald
bright,
I'm
in
an
administrative
scientist
and
with
the
water
department,
and
I
serve
as
the
assistant
operations
director
of
our
green
storm
water
operations
unit.
So
we
again
were
an
early
adopter
of
power
corps,
as
julia
mentioned
in
2013.
M
We
were
very
much
so
a
small
program.
At
that
time
there
may
have
been
five
administrative
professionals,
scientists,
engineers
such
as
myself,
with
a
handful
of
contractors,
and
at
that
time
we
had
about
400
stormwater
management
practices
in
the
right-of-way
or
in
all
right-of-way
settings
parts
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
so
again
being
to
some
extent
under
staff
and
in
many
regards
under-resourced,
we
thought
power
corps
would
be
a
great
way
to
supplement
our
workforce
for
maintenance.
M
So,
where
we
started,
you
know
we
knew
that
this,
the
skill
level
would
be
a
challenge.
Training
would
be
a
challenge,
so
we
made
full
commitment
to
training
and,
as
we
trained
power
core
fellows
how
we
wanted
them
to
maintain
our
brainstorming
infrastructure
practices.
We
really
coined.
We
think
coined
a
term
which
we
refer
to
as
aesthetic
maintenance
right
so
being
a
urban
city
trash
litter
debris.
M
It
is
an
eyesore,
but
if
you
put
it
in
the
context
of
green
infrastructure,
you're
talking
about
clogging
in
lights,
clogging,
overflow
structures,
so
you
know
what
we
really
train
them
to
do
is
or
we
train
them
as
if
they
were
aesthetic
maintenance
technicians.
So
some
could
call
it
picking
up
trash
or
just
removing
debris.
But
again,
I
think
that
gave
them
a
hands-on
experience
of
working,
although
at
a
lower
skill
level
working
directly
in
the
gsi
systems
along
the
way,
they
were
taught
trained
how
the
systems
were
actually
working.
M
So
after
a
while
they
became
fully
emerged.
They
really
bought
into
the
fact
that
they
were
helping
to
maintain
psi
systems,
keeping
them
in
operation
and
many
of
them,
you
know,
being
from
philadelphia.
M
They
were
working
in
their
neighborhoods
at
gi
that
was
in
their
neighborhood,
so
they
really
bought
into
it,
and
that
was
that
was
huge
for
us.
I
can't
because
we
were
supplementing
our
small
workforce
at
the
time.
So
a
few
as
years
went
on
julia
mentioned.
How
powercore
did
make
they
work
with
us
and
they
really
did
a
great
job,
I
think
in
developing
the
industrial
academies,
but
you
know
at
the
same
time
they
were
doing
that
we
were
working
again
to
to
continue
supplementing
our
workforce.
M
Powercore
was
an
impetus
for
us
to
revamp
reinvigorate
our
apprenticeship
program
at
the
time,
our
apprenticeship
program,
most
of
them
worked
as
as
technicians,
implants,
instrumentation
technicians,
but
we
had
some
key
staff
here
at
water
and
power
core
as
well,
that
you
know
really
pushed
us
to
take
a
second
look
at
workforce
development,
our
apprenticeship
program
and
from
there
we
began
taking
those
very
talented
candidates
from
powerpoint
bringing
them
in
as
apprentices,
and
that
allowed
us
to.
M
You
know,
supplement
again
our
in-house
maintenance
staff
within
a
year
or
so
we
actually
started
to
work
on
our
job
specifications.
So
we
made
some
modifications
to
our
grounds
and
facility
workers
specification,
which
essentially
is
it's
landscaping,
but
more
so
water
would
use
for
facilities
and
maintenance.
So,
as
julie
mentioned,
you
know
her
work
with
civil
service
to
get
americorps
members,
some
additional
credits,
additional
points
on
the
exams.
We
worked
in
a
similar
fashion
to
make
sure
that
we
could
get
powerful
apprentices.
You
know
from
powercore.
M
You
know
allow
that
experience
to
make
them
eligible
for
the
grounds
and
facility
maintenance
worker
series.
So,
within
a
short
time
again,
I'm
starting
with
powercore
in
2013
by
2016
we
were
able
to
bring
them
into
full-time
civil
service
positions
and
it
actually
allowed
us
to
start
our
in-house
grounds-
maintenance
team
which,
as
we
understand
it's
it's
the
first
or
one
of
the
first
in-house
or
that's
a
civil
service
grounds
cruise
that's
devoted
purely
to
greenstormwater
infrastructure.
M
So,
from
our
perspective,
you
know
we
had
contracts,
but
as
we
begin
to
grow,
you
know
we
are
accepting
200
300
400
new
systems
a
year
with
most
of
our
labor
force
being
contract.
We
knew
that
was
not
sustainable.
So
we
were
assured
that
you
know
developing
this
internal
civil
service
workforce
to
to
supplement
the
work
being
done
with
by
contractors
was
essential
and
powercore
became
the
pipeline
to
get
us
there.
So
moving
forward
to
2020
we're
at
a
point
where
you
know
our
grounds
we
have
at
right.
M
Now
we
have
four
crews:
four
ground
screws,
four
person,
crews,
70,
almost
70
percent
of
those-
are
power
core
alumni,
our
first
grounds.
Maintenance
supervisor
is
a
power
core
alum
aaron
kirkland.
He
julia
showed
his
photo
a
little
earlier,
we're
very
proud
of
proud
of
him
he's
toward
the
country.
You
know
speaking
very
eloquently
about
his
experience
with
parkour.
What
has
done
for
him,
how
it's
changed
his
life?
So
so
we
appreciate
that.
M
But
you
know
the
fact
that
you
know
he
started
as
a
power
corps
crew
member
as
a
fellow
as
an
apprentice
came
in
as
a
full-time
civil
servant
in
the
grounds
maintenance
series-
and
he
is
now
our
supervisor
is
huge
and
it
speaks
directly
to
the
benefits
of
power
corps
for
the
city.
A
few
other
highlights,
if
you
think
about
aaron
as
our
first
supervisor
a
hundred
percent
of
our
crew
chiefs,
so
those
four
crews
all
staffed
by
crew
chiefs.
M
All
of
them
are
our
power
corps
so
another.
Some
of
the
more
of
the
highlights
that
I
could
speak
to.
In
the
beginning,
we
started
with
what
we
called
aesthetic
maintenance
which
essentially
did
boil
down
to
you,
know
trash
debris
removal.
There
were
some
aspects
of
maybe
light
pruning
that
we
started
to
introduce,
but
you
know
we
we
over
time
were
able
to
teach
additional
skills.
M
Again,
as
we
spoke
to
the
industrial
academy,
you
know
once
we
were
able
to
work
with
those
folks
and
they
had
that
sense
of
permanence
and
they
got
additional
training.
We
were
able
to
kind
of
ramp
up
the
work
that
we
were
able
to
give
to
them.
So
one
of
the
big
things
that
we
talk
with
the
power
corps
about
is,
we
want
to
be
able
to
treat
them
as
contract.
M
M
They
met
the
challenge
and
with
that
industrial
academy,
you
know
they
began
to
move
from
aesthetic
maintenance
to
actually
full
responsibility
for
surface
maintenance,
as
we
call
it
at
our
vegetated
systems
and
right
now
about
80
percent
of
our
tree
trenches,
city-wide,
which
you
know
we
have
about
four
to
five
hundred
three
trenches
city
wide.
So
they
are
totally
the
responsibility
of
power
core.
M
So
if
you
can
imagine
within
seven
short
years,
going
from
aesthetic
maintenance-
and
essentially
you
know-
removing
trash
litter
debris
short
dumping
to
taking
full
scale
responsibility
for
service
maintenance,
so
you
know
they've
got
their
trucks.
They've
got
trailers
they're
grabbing
their
own
mulch.
M
You
know
they're
they're,
taking
the
debris
and
disposing
off-site,
I
mean
they
are
essentially
working
as
contractors
for
the
water
department,
which
another
benefit.
Again.
As
I
spoke
to
the
pipeline
for
our
workforce
development
initiatives,
you
know
we
are
able
to
grab
some
apprentices
candidates
from
some
of
our
industrial
trade
academies.
Here
in
the
city,
we
have
an
agriculture
school
here
in
the
city,
but,
as
I
spoke
to
you
earlier
right
now,
60
70
percent
of
our
staff
are
coming
from
power.
M
So
they
are
the
main
kind
of
asset
in
that
in
that
workforce
development
pipeline.
So
I
would
say
it's
been
nothing
but
a
successful
success
story
for
the
water
department.
You
know
again,
I
think,
as
an
early
adopt
adopter.
We
learned
a
lot,
but
it
was
a.
It
came
at
a
critical
time
for
us
again
as
we
were
increasing
the
number
of
our
green
infrastructure
assets
and
did
not
have
a
lot
of
resources.
M
It
was
the
perfect
timing
to
bring
in
power
core,
but
now
we've
since
we've
transitioned
to
you,
know
developing
more
resources.
Power
core,
I
think,
is,
is
once
we
really
got
into
the
industrial
academy.
It
was
that
thing
that
allowed
us
to
begin
to
do
things
like
match
skill
level
to
task
right.
So
if
you
can
imagine
before
powerport,
you
may
have
been
paying
these
contractors
at
30
40
50
an
hour
to
go
and
pick
up
that
trash
and
remove
that
debris.
But
again
having
powerport.
M
We
had
the
fellows
crews.
We
had
the
industrial
academy,
we
had
the
high-end
contractor,
so
you
know
really
gave
us
a
lot
more
flexibility.
Many
more
options
in
regards
to
you
know
who
we
send
what
jobs
to,
and
you
know
again
the
ability
ability,
I'm
sorry
to
leverage.
You
know
these.
This
different
capacity.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
bright.
That
was
a
great
overview.
I
want
to
acknowledge.
You've
been
joined
by
trent
nguyen
as
well
from
the
administration
welcome
trent.
So
I
think
again
before
we
get
into
more
of
a
discussion
since
there's
only
one
more
presentation
and
it's
a
little
should
be
a
little
bit
brief
is
wynn
constantini
a
graduate
student
from
mit.
When
would
you
like
to
sort
of
remark
on
some
of
your
give
your
remarks
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
q
a.
N
Yeah
great,
I
also
have
some
slides.
E
Great,
are
you
carrie?
Can
you
make
sure
that
when
can
share
their
screen
yeah,
I
think.
N
Cool
okay,
so
I'm
wenn
costantini,
I'm
a
graduate
student
at
mit
department
of
urban
studies
and
planning
and
the
research
I'm
working
on
is
really
aiming
to
contribute
to
the
program,
design
and
program
design
process
for
this
future
core
in
a
way
that
aligns
boston's
climate,
economic
and
racial
justice
goals
within
the
larger
context
of
a
boston
green
new
deal.
N
So
I
did
have
done
46
interviews
with
local
state
and
national
stakeholders,
and
I
so
far
have
basically
turned
this
into
a
visualization
of
the
existing
green
workforce,
development
ecosystem
in
boston
and
throughout
these
interviews,
I
was
thinking
about
how
different
stakeholders
see
their
work
fitting
in
with
this
future
core
and
how
they
think
it
should
be
designed
and
implemented
and
again
implemented
in
a
way
that
is
integrating
these
various
goals.
N
So
this
is
the
ecosystem
I
put
together.
This
slide
is
really
just
to
show
you
that
it
is
complicated,
and
so
it
made
sense
to
me
to
split
up
the
sectors
into
natural
environment,
which
is
great
infrastructure,
urban,
forestry
and
wastewater
and
the
built
environment
where
the
sectors
were
a
little
harder
to
pull
apart,
but
have
to
do
with
new
construction
and
retrofitting,
as
well
as
building
operation
and
maintenance.
N
N
Basically,
there's
color
coding
in
the
ecosystem,
especially
because
items
within
the
ecosystem
often
are
relevant
to
multiple
sectors,
and
so
that
was
how
I
showed
that
there's
different
shapes
for
different
types
of
items
and
different
arrows
to
show
existing
versus
potential
relationships
and
potential
career
paths.
So
this
is
an
example,
career
path,
just
urban
forestry.
I
have
ones
for
every
sector
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
place
to
start
in
terms
of
building
out
something
like
an
industry
academy
that
powercore
has
so.
In
this
example.
N
We
have
it
starting
just
as
an
example
from
the
teen
urban
tree
core
with
this
currently,
which
speak
for
the
trees
and
they're
working
on
building
out
more
of
a
workforce,
development
focus
and
so
from
this
course.
Someone
could
theoretically
go
to
umass
amherst
for
post-secondary
education
or
straight
to
an
apprenticeship
or
ground
crew
with
a
landscaping
or
tree
care
company,
and
then
from
that
could
either
be
hired
by
that
or
another
company
work
for
utility
or
potentially
start
their
own
company.
N
And
then
this
is
the
more
built
environment
potential
career
paths.
As
you
can
see,
it
is
harder
to
pull
apart
a
little
more
complex,
but
we
have
some
secondary
education
institutions
like
youth,
build
in
madison
park,
post-secondary,
like
the
rox
roxbury
community
college,
smart
building
technology
program,
which
is
just
getting
started,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
entry
and
exit
points.
Like
people
don't
have
to
have
be
starting
in
the
secondary
education
area.
N
N
And
so
then
I
have
some
more
maps
and
these
are
what
I'm
calling
shared
inputs.
So
these
are
organizations
in
boston
that
are
already
doing
all
of
the
work
that
is
important
to
a
court,
but
not
sector
specific,
and
so
there
are
educational
partners,
funding
sources,
outreach
and
engagement,
which
is
relevant
to
like
the
particip
participatory
program,
design
process,
addressing
barriers
to
employments
like
wrap
around
services
and
then
also
important
advocacy
partners
to
include,
and
so
the
next
steps
are
really
like.
N
Now
that
I
have
this
map
where,
where
does
the
core
fit
in
and
how
does
the
core
either
like
embed
itself
in
this
ecosystem
or
prepare
someone
to
join
one
of
these
already
existing
career
paths
in
boston
and
also
like
serve
as
a
way
to
further
like
strengthen
and
connect
and
support?
All
of
the
people
already
doing
this
work
in
the
city
and
for
my
future
research?
N
I'm
going
to
think
through
some
indicators
that
the
city
can
use
when
evaluating
different
models,
some
grounding
principles
and
values
that
I
think
are
important
to
this
core
and
then
also
recommendations
about
how
to
make
this
process
participatory.
N
And
so
I
know
you
couldn't
really
read
the
diagrams.
So
if
anyone
is
interested
in
seeing
them
in
more
detail,
I'm
happy
to
share
them
and
talk
about
them.
That's
my
email
and
yeah
thanks
so
much.
E
Thank
you,
wynn.
That
was
that
was
very
illuminated.
Appreciate
that
all
right,
so
again,
this
is
going
to
be
less
of
a
formalized
hearing
where
we
sort
of
go
back
and
forth.
I
really
want
us
to
foster
a
great
conversation.
E
It's
a
complicated
issue
but
incredibly
worthwhile
issue
and
the
mere
fact
that
76ers
and
celtics
fans
are
coming
together
on
this,
I
think,
shows,
shows
how
important
and
momentous
this
day
is
so
kenzie,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
and
then
michelle
just
to
sort
of
you
know,
begin
the
conversation
again.
You
can
ask
anyone
and
feel
free
the
panelists
as
well,
and
the
folks
participating
who
aren't
counselors.
If
you
have
further
questions
or
need
some,
you
know
ideas,
please
feel
free.
E
This
is
an
open
conversation
and
it's
my
job
just
to
hopefully
help
facilitate
it
as
best
as
we
can
so
kenzie
the
floor
is
yours.
F
Thank
you
so
much
councilor,
o'malley
yeah,
and
thank
you
so
much
again
to
our
to
our
philly
colleagues
for
coming.
I
mean
honestly,
there's
just
so
much
of
your
program
that
I
just
want
us
to
steal,
and-
and
you
know,
and
especially
because
of
how
it's
dealing
with
you
know,
one
of
the
problems
that
me
and
my
staff
have
encountered
as
we've
thought
through
this.
It's
somewhat
reflected
in
winds,
diagrams
of
just
the
complexity
of
the
landscape
and
also
the
fact
that
we
want
to
create
like
you.
F
You
know
we,
as
a
city
are,
are
aiming
to
create
a
private
market
for
this
work
as
well
by
through
our
sort
of
regulatory
actions,
and
I
think
part
of
the
goal
is,
if
we're
going
to
require
people
to
do
a
lot
of
retrofitting
work,
let's
also
at
the
same
time
support
a
economic
ecosystem
of
our
local
boston.
Folks,
who
can
be
hired
to
do
that
work
and
that's
something
dave
queeley
who's
here
with
us
from
codman.
F
The
common
square
ndc
has
been
thinking
a
lot
about
like
how
to
give
our
our
young
people
the
the
training
and
resources,
but
I
think,
as
you
saw
in
wins
diagrams
we're
sort
of
in
all
these
pocketed
places.
Right
now,
and
so
the
question
is
like:
how
do
you
centralize
that
from
the
position
perspective
of
a
young
person
so
that
they
kind
of
know
the
way
in,
but
not
centralized
in
the
sense
of
like
one
size
fits
all?
F
So
I
I
really
appreciated
your
your
kind
of
that
explanation,
julia
about
how
you've
kind
of
created
that
initial
foundations
moment
and
then
you've
created
these
different
pathways
depending
on
where
people
are
at.
F
I
wondered
if
you
or
and
or
gerald
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
in
terms
of
those
next
steps
like
that
folks
take
like,
for
instance,
on
the
apprenticeship
side,
I
mean
have
you
partnered
with
the
unions
or
that
is
that
what
we're
talking
about
when
we're
talking
about
apprenticeships,
on
the
on
the
internal
side
gerald
so
you've
ramped
up,
you
know,
are
those
those
sit.
Those
are
the
folks
on
your
foreground,
crews.
F
What
I
understood
are
they're
all
city,
employees,
right
and
you're
sort
of
and
and-
and
I
think
that's
I
want
to
highlight-
for
people-
I
think
john
sullivan
mentioned
this,
but
you
know
one
of
the
big
things
with
green
infrastructure
is
that
with
gray
infrastructure
we
used
to
have
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
set
and
forget
for
40
years
right
and
with
green
infrastructure.
F
We
need
people
to
actually
maintain
it
and
instead
of
asking
his
and
dutch
and
commissioner
woods
folks
to
do
more
and
more
with
less
like
we
need
to
give
them
more
in
terms
of
staff.
So
I
think
that
kind
of
a
past
appealing
to
me.
F
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
a
bit
about
how
that
transition
kind
of
went
and,
and
also
it
sounded
to
me,
like
maybe
power
core
started
actually
as
a
city
like
internal
to
the
city,
and
so,
if
you
could
talk
about,
why
sort
of
you
pulled
the
initial
training
out
of
the
city
ultimately,
and
it
sounds
like
it's
operating
on
mou
just
a
little
bit
of
more
of
like
that,
those
structural
points
and
then
details
about
about
your
partnership
with
unions
and
others
in
the
apprenticeship
program
would
be
great.
M
Julia,
I
guess
I
could
take
the
first
piece
if
you
wanted
to
okay
so
and
kenzie.
Thank
you.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
I
loved
hearing
was
that
you
acknowledged
that
kind
of
nuance.
With
green
and
gray,
you
gray,
you
can
set
it
and
forget
it
with
green.
M
You
can't,
and
that
was
something
that
struck
us
immediately,
and
it
was
something
that
we
really
had
to
work
with
the
department
internally
to
develop
these
additional
resources
for
green,
because
this
was
the
you
know
I
used
to
say
this
was
the
one
thing
we
built.
That
has
to
be
pretty.
You
know
it's
in
the
public
relative
way,
and
you
know
what
a
more
serious
new
is
something
that
has
to
be
maintained
right
away.
M
I
mean
immediately
as
soon
as
it's
constructed,
so
you
know
that
that
need
to
develop
resources.
Develop
resources
quickly
was
very
important
to
us,
because
we
recognized
that.
So
I
think
in
the
beginning,
we
again
I
spoke
to
our
apprenticeship
program.
I
think
at
the
time
it
was
fledgling
and
it
was
used
mostly
to
support
instrumentation
texts
in
our
plants.
It
took
some
convincing
and
we
had
a
lot
of
passionate
people
here
at
water.
You
know
too
actually
to
make
sure
we
were
retaining
power
cord.
M
So
in
the
beginning
we
used
them
to
supplement
the
work
that
was
being
done
by
contractors,
but
you
know
one
of
the
issues
that
we
ran
into
is
that
you
know
we
were
working
with
cohorts,
so
I
I
forget
julia
for
giving
me.
I
think
they
were
six
month
cohorts,
if
not
eight,
but
you
know
one
of
the
issues
with
the
cohorts
was
that
you,
you
have
to
retrain
and
retool
as
those
cohorts
move
on
they
may
move
on
to
employment.
Some
may
sticks
they
may
be
placed
in
employment.
Some
may
stay.
M
Some
may
be
promoted
to
crew
leaders,
but
you
know
that
a
need
to
continue
retraining
and
no
each
cohort
as
they
came
through.
You
know
it
it.
It
did.
M
On
us
from
to
some
regard,
because
again,
if
the
consistency
that
you
want,
if
you're
going
to
have
a
crew
that
goes
to
the
same
place
every
time
that
does
it
the
same
way,
you're
going
to
keep
starting
from
scratch,
so
that
was,
I
think,
some
of
the
driver
partially
from
our
end
behind
the
you
know
that
that
want-
or
you
know
something
greater
from
power
core,
which
became
the
industrial
academy.
M
M
For
us,
they
wouldn't
have
met
eligibility
standards
for
any
of
the
civil
service
titles
that
we
had
at
the
time,
which
is
why,
on
a
back
end,
we
started
working
to
make
sure
that
if
we
were
able
to
get
a
power
core
apprentice,
that
apprenticeship
will
qualify
as
the
necessary
or
prerequisite
training
for
the
grounds
and
facilities
maintenance
series.
M
So
a
lot
of
this
week,
we
kind
of
you
know
we
were
you
know
we
jumped
over
one
hurdle
and
looked
prepared
to
jump
over
the
next
until
we
were
able
to
get
it
all
working.
But
you
know
you
asked
a
few
questions
here,
so
you
could
stop
me
and
ask
again
if,
if
I
didn't
address
anything-
but
I
guess
the
last
thing
I'll
speak
to
is-
is
our
in-house
grounds
maintenance,
crew?
I
think
that
green
infrastructure
is
so
specialized
at
this
point.
M
M
We
have
tried
to
pull
people
off
the
streets
so
to
say,
with
general
experience,
landscaping
experience
and
it
does
take
a
while
to
kind
of
introduce
them
to
the
nuances
of
maintaining
green
infrastructure
and
that's
where
we've
seen
power
core
being
such
a
successful
model
because
by
the
time
they've
come
to
us,
you
know,
with
hopes
of
a
permanent
civil
service.
M
Title
they've
been
working
at
least
maybe
a
year
with
power
corps
or
another
almost
a
year
in
apprenticeship,
so
you're
talking
at
least
a
year
and
a
half
of
experience
with
green
infrastructure.
I
speak
too
to
our
contractors,
so
we
have
a
core
group
of
contractors.
We've
been
working
some
as
long
as
10
years
same
contractors.
M
They
love
powercore.
You
know
because
again
it's
the
same
for
them.
They
don't
have
to
pull
someone
off
the
street
and
and
retool
and
retrain
them
to
the
nuances
of
gi,
great
infrastructure.
They
have
someone
with
that
experience,
so
you
know
we're
finding
that
in
the
beginning,
we
thought
that
a
lot
of
our
contractors
were
pulling
power
core
alums,
because
they
they
thought,
that's
what
we
wanted
them
to
do.
They
said
oh,
this
is
gonna
look
good
for
when
I
go
to
renew
that
contract
and
you
know
over.
M
They're
making
some
of
that
in
the
beginning,
they
thought
it
was
giving
them
an
edge
over
another
contractor,
something
that
we
would
like
to
see.
But
over
time
you
know
they
became
a
poor
pool
more
and
more
power
core
alums.
They
they
realize
it
too.
Like
there's
built-in
experience
here,
I
don't
have
to
retool
and
retrain
for
nuances
of
gi
and
they
have
several
foreign.
Our
contractor
akrf
green
up,
in
particular
that
our
power
core
alums
so
hope.
I
answered
your
question,
but
if
there's
anything
else
feel
free.
A
Yeah
and
I'll
just
add
a
little
color
to
it.
So
obviously
all
of
our
civil
servants
are
dc33,
so
they're
unionized
as
well,
and
I
think
that
the
conversation
with
them
is
really
like.
You
know,
there's
vacancies
that
have
been
sitting
at
water
in
dc
33
positions.
A
We
want
to
strengthen
that
union
when
you
think
of
sort
of
outside
of
dc
33
we've
been
working
more
recently
directly
with
the
mesa
bricklayers
and
allied
craft
workers
to
create
with
them
to
create
a
masonry
academy,
so
it's
really
helping
to
pull
them
in
and
design
from
the
beginning.
You
know
again
what
those
union
unions
see
is
their
need
and
their
talent
needs
and
where
their
gaps
are.
We
also
have
folks
who
have
you
know
going
to
the
fishing
trades
things
like
that,
but
those
are
really
like.
A
Okay
as
an
individual
like
no.
This
is
the
path
that
I
want
to
take,
but
I
want
to
go
into
you
know.
Traditional
union
work
to
the
to
what
water
did,
which
I
think
is
actually
very
doable
in
other
cities
and
and
they've
been
highlighted
across
the
nation.
Gerald's
being
very
humble,
is
that
they
essentially
created
in-house.
It's
not
a
registered
apprenticeship,
but
it's
a
fully
civil
servant,
five-phase
apprenticeship
within
the
civil
service
within
water,
and
they
worked
their
hr
team
in
water
as
well
as
central
hr,
really
worked.
A
The
structure
of
those
specs
and
the
structure
that
pathway
for
folks
and
it's
through
that
sort
of
back
end
work
that
really
makes
those
career
pathways
smooth
that
really
helped
to
fill
talent
needs
there.
I
mean
we're
meeting
with
the
water
hr
team
monthly
to
quarterly
for
them
to
give
us
a
projection
of
when
they
think
they're
bringing
on
apprentices
and
what
outside
of
green
infrastructure.
We
have
apprentices
now
that
are
filling
their
surveying
unit.
A
That's
filling
electricity
units,
other
skilled
trades
that
we're
working
directly
with
hr
to
know
what
those
are
and
then
to
build
out
the
training
pathways
for
them.
So
they're
really,
you
know,
I
think
their
hr
department
told
me
60
of
their
apprentices
that
they
then
hire
full-time
are
coming
from
power
corps.
A
So
that's
beyond
just
the
green,
that's
including
the
skill
of
trades
vacancies
that
they're
seeing
but
more
specifically
because
yeah,
so
it
started
so
I
actually
wish
I
had
win
one
of
your
maps
when
we
started
that
was,
like
you
know,
philly's
much
like
boston.
Everybody
knows
each
other.
Everyone's
worked
with
each
other,
a
previous
job,
but
so
we
basically
created
those
maps
and
then
created
advisory
committees
based
on
different
things.
A
So
we,
when
we
were
getting
off
the
ground,
my
entire
job
was
to
corral
our
version
of
that
map
to
get
everyone
to
work
together
and
figure
out
where
we
fit,
and
the
point
of
powerport
at
the
time
was:
there's
clearly
a
gap
within
that
map
and
for
us
to
fit
in
where
we
are.
We
have
a
very
strong
youth
build
program.
We
know
that
our
conversation
with
youth
build
was
you
guys,
have
graduates
who
aren't
yet
ready
just
go
into
straight
employment
so
that
second
tier
of
their
graduates
send
them
to
us.
A
A
We
only
took
clients
from
those
existing
community-based
organizations
supported
social
services
agencies
who
had
clients
who
are
ready
for
job
training,
so
maybe
they
just
got
their
ged
or
they
just
finished
an
altar
of
high
school
or
they
just
came
home
from
prison
and
they
are
ready
for
the
next
thing,
so
we
were
really
activating.
We
met
quarterly
with
that
group.
They
helped
design
parts
of
the
sort
of
like
how
you
come
in
and
really
trying
to
fit
what
the
needs
were.
A
So
at
the
time
when
we
started
youth
services
ended
at
21,
we
purposely
went
up
to
26
to
catch
people
who
are
aging
out
of
youth
services.
Obviously,
since
then
youth
sizes
tend
to
go
up
to
24.
We
then
have
bumped
up
to
28
we're
thinking
of
going
up
to
30.
again
we're
trying
to
catch
people
as
like
that
last
step
before
before
they
you
know
before
they
can
transition
to
being
like
fully
out
of
programming
out
of
subsidies
so
yeah
we
I
started
in
the
city.
A
It
started
very
much
as
a
city
initiative
that
was
subcontracting
to
two
different
nonprofits,
so
it
worked
in
the
sense
of
like
getting
something
up
at
scale,
so
we
started
100
people
a
year
in
the
first
year
very
quickly,
because
we
know
that
government
is
great
in
many
ways,
but
they
not
as
agile
in
terms
of
like
procuring
tokens
like
public
transportation
passes
things
that
you
just
need
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
So
it
worked
to
get
it
up
on
the
ground.
A
It
worked
to
sort
of
really
convene
all
the
different
departments
and
heads
of
departments,
as
well
as
the
front
line
city
workers,
to
figure
out
what
are
the
projects
that
you
want
us
to
work
on?
How
do
we
translate
that
into
the
cruise,
but
ultimately,
with
a
mayoral
transition
coming
up?
We
need
to
streamline
our
our
administrative
brand
because
we
had
staff
on
three
different
payrolls
and
so
really
the
reason
to
pull
it
out
was
really
about
streamlining
the
just
the
just
organizational
structure
of
it.
A
So
at
this
point
there's
a
subcon
there's
a
so
we
have
our
americorps
funding
still
goes
to
the
city.
So
it's
still
city
initiative.
It
then
gets
subcontracted
out
to
a
single
nonprofit,
that's
educationworks,
and
then
we
educationworks
then
has
mousse
with
water
and
parks
and
rec
and
some
other
departments
for
fee-for-service
contracts
that
they're
paying
into
for
us
to
do
those
like
on
the
ground
projects.
A
A
So,
to
give
you
a
sense
of
you
know,
when
you
think
of
you
want
to
marry,
we
have
workforce
investment
board
dollars
that
we're
marrying
to
the
americorps
grant,
on
top
of
the
fee,
for
service
from
city
departments
who
are
taking
operational
dollars,
that
they
normally
spend
on
contractors
and
redoing
that
and
then
foundation
funding.
So
we
tie
all
that
together
in
a
nice
package
called
power
core,
but
really
that
early
that
early
that
early
work,
my
entire
job,
the
first
18
months,
was
just
corralling.
A
That
map
of
that
wind
showed
us
and
really
my
job
changed
every
six
months
since
we
got
to
a
different
place
in
the
project.
But
I
think
it's
super
important
to
think
through.
You
know
who
can
do
that
work
and
it
helps
have
an
internal
person
to
the
city
to
do
it
right.
So
I
could.
I
could
have
the
commissioner,
water
and
head
of
probation
in
the
same
room
together.
A
They
probably
never
met
before
but
they're
meeting
about
this
specific
thing
and
we
could
work
out
some
of
those
those
kinks
behind
the
scenes
of
saying
like
okay.
Now
we
need
hr
to
activate
on
these
things.
You
know
they're
just
unique
processes
within
city
government.
So
if
you're
trying
to
get
trainees
into
city
employment,
you
need
to
know
what
they
are
and
work
to
those
kings
and
things
like
that
and
then
just
a
little
bit
of
the
pathways
gerald
spoke
to
it.
A
But
if
you're
not
going
into
primarily
it's
water
streets
in
our
parks
department
that
we
see
folks
go
into
city
employment
through,
but
also
private
sector
contractors,
or,
like
I
said,
if
people
want
to
pivot
out
of
those,
our
industry
focuses.
We
work
with
them
individually.
They
all
every
young
person
gets
for
three
staff
people
signed
to
them,
so
their
crew
leader
who's,
their
daily
coach,
their
motivator,
their
supervisor,
a
workforce,
development,
career
counselor
and
then
a
supportive
services
counselor
who
jasmine
oversees
to
work
on
sort
of
like
basic
needs
or
moving
barriers.
A
How
can
you
be
successful
at
powercore
and
so
through
that
they're
triangulating,
with
that
young
person
like
how
you
want
to
progress
through
that?
But,
like
I
said
we
when
you
look
at
that
map,
we're
taking
folks
who
are
already
connected
to
some
services,
but
are
ready
for
the
next
thing,
and
then
we
also
are
developing
a
whole
set
of
employers
network,
including
unions
that
were
saying
okay
when
they
come
out
of
this,
based
on
the
training
that
we've
designed
with
you,
you
know
where
they
met
from
there.
A
So
it's
trying
to
do
sort
of
that
type
of
thing.
I
feel,
like
you
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about
city
like
the
city,
but
I'm
happy
to
be
more
specific,
but
yeah.
It's.
A
I
think
it's
definitely
as
you're
getting
this
off
the
ground
think
through
the
stakeholder
committees
that
you're
gonna
need
to
have
to
have
those
conversations
with
to
have
that
process
with
to
work
through
some
of
those
things
and
I'd
say
that
there's
a
nice
test
case
in
buffalo
that,
where
we're
actually
on
contract
right
now
with
buffalo
street
authority
to
help
them
work
through
with
technical
assistance,
what
that
all
looks
like
there.
A
So
I
think
that
I
am
not
happy
to
put
you
in
touch
with
paul
harris
over
there
to
talk
through
like
what
they
just
started
this
in
january.
So
what
their
experiences
were
like
just
to
start
working
through
some
of
those
city
processes.
F
F
That's
gonna
enable
us
to
do
something
like
what
you've
done
and-
and
I
just
wanna
highlight
that
I
appreciate
you
reference
just
now-
the
sort
of
wraparound
services
you
provide
to
support
the
young
people,
because
it's
all
like
it's
all
for
naught
if
people
don't
actually
move
forward
right
on
these
pathways,
that's
that's
the
piece
we're
really
trying
to
achieve.
So.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
your
indulgence.
E
Of
course,
thank
you,
counselor
wu.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
really
exciting
to
be
able
to
get
into
the
weeds
a
little
bit.
I
want
to
zoom
out
just
for
my
question.
You
know:
we've
we've
heard
now
about
some
mappings
that
have
already
been
done,
which
is
amazing.
I
want
to
have
that
that
flow
chart
and
all
those
arrows
about
the
various
pieces
and
how
to
convene
all
different
potential
stakeholders.
C
I'm
just
curious
if
we
were
just
to
try
to
really
simplify
things,
what
are
kind
of
the
first
one,
two,
maybe
three
steps
that
you
would
recommend
boston
does
now
like.
Is
it
to
identify
the
funding?
Is
it
to
really
sort
of
convene
within
city
hall,
the
core
group
that's
going
to
be
sort
of
the
center
of
the
public
side
of
things?
Is
it
to
start
the
external
stakeholder
conversations
curious
what
you
would
sort
of
prioritize
in
terms
of
big
picture?
First
steps.
A
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
you
named
them
all
counselors,
so
so
I
think
definitely
getting
the
internal
city
working
group
up
and
running
to
start
to
spec.
What
are
those
projects
that
you'd
want
crew,
trainee,
crews
like
this
to
operate
on
and
start
to
work
through?
You
know
what
that
scope
could
look
like
and
what
what
needs
and
and
another
information
internal
to
say
you
need
to
have
those
those
crews
be
operational
on
city
projects.
I
think
that's
one.
A
I
think
two
to
your
point
about
sourcing
and
funding
really
looking
at
you
know
what
are
the
opportunities
to
either
bring
an
americorps
grant
to
the
city
of
boston
or
to
work
with
a
a
local
nonprofit
that
potentially
already
has
an
americorps
grant
that
they
could
add
on
to.
So
I
think
really
identifying
that
will
give
you
some
core
funding
to
then
add
on
to
and
be
really
have
a
robust
sort
of
like
package
of
resources.
A
So
they
say
that
that
those
two
are,
I
would
say,
the
first
two
steps
and
then
concurrently,
you
know
thinking
through
you
know,
are
there?
Are
there
local
adaptations
in
terms
of
targeted
recruitment?
Demographics
are
there
sort
of
you
know
like
what
are
the?
What
are
the
very
specifics
to
boston
in
terms
of
getting
the
word
out
and
how
you
would
recruit
folks
in
and
what
year,
what
your
focus
might
be.
A
So,
for
example,
in
buffalo,
it's
from
two
very
specific
neighborhoods
and
so
in
boston
you
might
you
might
identify
that
to
be
a
certain
age
range
or
whatever
it
is,
and
then
you
know
start
to
start
to
I'd
say.
The
third
thing
is
just
to
really
start
to
focus
on
how
you
get
the
word
out
into
those
communities
that
we've
found
in
the
pandemic.
We
have
at
this
point
we
have
over
600
alumni.
A
We
get
a
lot
of
applications
through
word
of
mouth
for
our
alumni,
but
even
in
the
pandemic,
recruitment
has
been
very
hard
across
the
board
in
philadelphia,
and
so
I
think,
really
making
sure
that
you're
getting
connections
into
where
you
want
to
target
your
recruitment,
I
would
say,
which
is
your
third
step.
C
Thank
you.
Does
it
anyone
else
have
any
other
ideas
on
that
front.
Q
I
mean
I'll
just
reinforce
the
the
the
champions
right
I
mean
you
need.
You
need
folks
like
like
gerald
and
julia
those
that
are
going
to
be
really
persistent.
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
hard
program
right,
I
mean
there's,
there's
barriers
throughout
there's.
You
know
you're
going
to
have
some
some
issues,
but
these
folks
just
provided
relentlessness
persistence
and
just
phenomenal
mentoring.
Q
So
you
know
you
can
put
all
the
logistics
together,
but
if,
if
you
don't
have
key
people
in
key
places
to
to
ensure
it's
success,
then
it
won't
be
successful.
So
you
really
just
need
you
need.
You
need
some
champions
throughout,
not
just
the
city
government,
but
the
whole
process
and
again
a
lot
of
credit
to
gerald
and
what
he
did
for
you
know
just
empowering
and
inspiring
this
this.
Q
You
know
the
folks
that
he
was
working
with
to
see
the
bigger
picture,
so
it
you
know
it
just
takes,
takes
good
people
to
make
great
programs
successful.
C
Thank
you
and
then
just
for
our
beloved
city,
folks
and
quasi
city
folks.
How
does
that
map
onto
how
you
are
thinking
about
it?
Already?
Maybe
you
know
existing
types
of
working
groups
or
structures
that
you
think
might
be
appropriate
to
match
up
with
this
or
any
other
thoughts.
Just
given
what
our
advisors
have
said,.
I
Yeah
thanks
counselor.
I
think,
for
that
answer:
I'll
defer
to
trent
in
the
office
of
workforce
development
just
because
she
already
has
existing
programs.
She
can
talk
about
either
scaffolding
up
or
creating
a
new
system.
R
Thank
you
first,
I
want
to
say
I
apologize
for
being
late.
I
had
to
attend
this
meeting
at
nine
o'clock,
so
one
I
want
to
thank
councillor
bach
and
councillor
o'malley
for
continuing
to
do
this
work.
Counselor
wu,
you
know
you
all
have
been
doing
this
work
for
quite
some
time.
Forgive
me
if
I
have
left
any
other
counselors
out,
because
my
screen
is
very
limited.
R
I
want
to
also
acknowledge
counselor
baker,
who
is
on
here
he's
one
of
our
trustees
for
the
neighborhoods
jobs,
trust
and
he
has
been
really
supportive
of
our
city
academy
work
and
many
programs
that
are
intertwined
with
the
in
the
green
infrastructure,
clean
energy
industry
as
well,
jerry
gerald
julia
and
nguyen.
Oh,
my
gosh,
I
feel
like
I
can
have
like
another
phd
listening
and
learning
from
all
of
you.
R
R
And
now,
with
this
remote
learning
and
technology,
that's
going
to
change
as
well,
but
I
I
I
want
to
just
briefly
highlight
some
of
the
work
that
that
that
we've
been
doing
in
the
city
of
boston
with
our
partners-
and
you
know
forgive
me
if
I'm
leaving
some
major
partners
and
efforts
out
just
because
of
time's
sake
but
happy
to
follow
up.
So
a
couple
of
quick
things
that
we
have
been
working
with:
the
boston
building
trades
for
the
last
10
to
12
years
on
racially
diversifying
their
workforce
and
within
the
trades.
R
I
I
think
people
don't
market
it
enough,
but
within
each
trades
they
have
a
particular
green
efficiency
technology
component,
which
they
retrain
their
members
consistently.
So
those
those
certifications
are
embedded
in
their
training
modules.
R
I
don't
think
we
think
about
it
or
talk
about
it
so
much,
but
once
you
get
into
the
weeds,
they
do
have
existing
infrastructures
already.
So
we
have
built
pre-apprenticeships
and
apprenticeship
programs
around
that.
R
The
second
piece
that
I
think
we
don't
highlight
enough
in
the
city-
and
it's
probably
my
fault,
because
it's
always
my
my
fault-
is
our
tuition-free
community
college
program
that
works
with
six
programs,
six
schools
throughout
the
city
and
within
those
within
those
two-year
colleges
and
community
colleges.
They
have
particular
disciplines,
degrees
and
certifications
that
lead
to
associate.
R
Multiple
jobs
to
make
ends
meet
while
they're
obtaining
their
post-secondary
education
as
well.
Specific
programs,
for
example,
called
the
beams
program.
That's
been
around
for
quite
some
time:
the
asian
american
civic
association.
They
have
a
building
energy,
efficient
efficiency,
maintenance
skills
program
that
works
to
train
us
with
certifications
and
lead
lead
them
into
employer
tracks.
R
The
roxbury
community
college
center
for
smart
building
technology
have
worked
to
launch
it
with
youth,
build
and
our
greater
boston,
american
apprenticeship
initiatives,
which
really
works
with
students
of
color
high
school
students
to
provide
them
with
certifications
and
into
career
pathways
in
the
smart
building
technology
infrastructure
also
here
that
that
our
rock
star
is
convinced
square
in
dc
green
infrastructure
program.
R
From
gerald
julia
and
nguyen
I
mean
the
key
is
to
integrate
some
of
these
best
practices
so
that
we
can
go
to
scale
just
two
things
that
I've
been
hearing
and
they're
only
limited
to
two
because
of
this
presentation,
but
a
couple,
a
few
challenges
in
terms
of
nuts
and
bolts,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
been
talking
about
that,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
don't
want
plans.
We
don't
just
want
plans
and
plans
and
visions.
R
We
want
to
see
how
we
operationalize
it
to
get
the
outcomes
and
the
intended
results
that
we
want.
So
one
is
the
cost
per
participant
and
the
cost
structure
is
really
a
little
more
complicated
than
people
think
so.
The
budget-
and
I
think
julia
had
alluded
to
this
budget-
has
to
be
understood,
simplified
from
an
operations
standpoint.
R
We
do
have
various
americorps
programs,
and
sometimes
they
don't
work
well
because
of
the
restrictions
so
having
unrestricted
funds
to
cover
gaps,
so
that
partners
who
are
really
good
at
what
they're
doing
can
do
their
job
so
that
they
can
focus
on
less
administrative
burden
and
more
on
the
program,
participants
and
their
skill
set,
and
I
can
say
more
about
the
budget
piece
a
little
later
offline.
The
second
piece
that
we
all
know
that's
an
elephant
in
the
room
is
that
employers?
R
You
know
we
can't
do
what's
what's
the
use
of
workforce,
training
and
certifications
and
all
this
hard
work
that
students
get
into
if
they
don't
have
a
good
paying
job
with
a
career
pathway
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
so
I
see
my
colleague
here,
john
sullivan,
from
the
boston
water
sewer.
For
example,
I
mean
they
have
been
an
instrumental
partner
in
hiring
at
from
our
city
academy
program.
R
It
doesn't
necessarily
focus
on
green
infrastructure
or
clean
energy,
but
it
does
have
components
of
best
practices
that
we
can
integrate
into
the
the
field,
and
so
you
know
employer
engagement
from
private.
I
think
councilor
bach
had
mentioned
it
nailed
it.
It's
just
also
the
private
industry
as
well,
I
mean
eversource
national
grid
subcontractors
gcs,
a
variety
of
private
employers,
have
a
demand
for
those
jobs,
the
public
sector,
not
just
city,
but
we
have
to
also
look
at
the
state
and
the
the
federal
government
as
well.
R
The
state
mass
dot
is
a
very
engaged
employer
of
ours
to
hire
our
graduates.
The
airport
is
also
important,
so
we
have
to
see
the
green.
In
my
opinion,
we
have
to
see
the
green
infrastructure,
jobs
or
clean
energy
as
a
field
within
a
growing
larger
existing
infrastructure
instead
of
creating
a
new
one,
because
that's
the
only
way
in
which
we
can
cap
get
a
hold
of
the
hiring
market.
So
it'll
give
more
opportunities
for
our
graduates
to
apply
for
a
lot
of
these
jobs
that
are
available.
R
I
think
I'm
talking
too
much
it's
just
a
bit
a
little
bit
of
my
thoughts
and
hearing
from
you
all
love
to
answer
additional
questions
offline
and
follow
up
with
the
work.
Thank
you.
E
E
Perfect
and
and
we're
gonna
go
to
council
braden
in
a
minute
for
because
she
was
next
but
counselor
baker.
Do
you
have
a
quick
question
for
tren?
I.
H
I
I
did
trin
thank
you
for
for
touching
on
the
on
the
the
budget
aspect
of
it,
because
that's
what
the
devil
is
in
the
details,
if
we,
if
we
can
figure
out
a
budget,
but
I
just
had
one
question
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
missed
it,
the
industry
academies
are
those
city
run
out
of
those
non-profits.
R
Those
are
city
run
because,
oh
no,
I.
H
Was
I
was
talking
to
philadelph
philadelphia?
I'm
sorry.
A
H
E
Thanks
councilman
we'll
come
back
to
you
after
counselor
braden
but
counselor
brayden.
Now
the
floor
is
now
yours.
G
Thank
you.
This
is
a
lot
of
information
to
digest.
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentations.
I
I'm
curious
about
the
returning
citizens
aspect.
Is
there
a
pathway
to
I'm
really
impressed
with
your
your
the
recipe
recidivism?
I
can
never
say
that
recidivism
rates
and
how
how
impressive
those
numbers
are
in
terms
of
long-term
employment?
G
What's
your
success
and
in
in
with
those
returning
citizens
going
out
into
other
jobs,
or
did
they
stay
within
city
jobs,.
A
Yeah,
I
would
say
so
at
the
point
that
people
are
graduating
out
of
power,
there's
no
difference
whether
you
have
a
record
or
not
in
terms
of
your
success.
So
at
the
point
that
you
graduate
you
know
we're
seeing
similar
outcomes
across
the
board.
We
have.
Frankly,
we
have
folks
who
are
still
in
the
water
department.
Six,
seven
years
later,
they've
been
promoted
up
through
the
system
they're.
A
You
know
now
full
on
electrician,
one
within
the
civil
service
at
the
water
treatment
plant
folks
are
staying
in
their
jobs
and,
in
some
cases,
obviously
they're
switching
careers.
So
they
might
have
been
a
contractor
for
two
years
and
they're
ready
to
change
it
up.
A
big
part
of
our
ethos
is
that
if
you're
an
alumni,
you
have
lifetime
alumni
services,
you
can
come
back,
get
career,
counseling
appointments.
We
often
have
employers
come
to
us
with
jobs
that
we
can't
fill
with
recent
graduates.
A
So
we'll
put
it
out
to
our
alumni
pool,
and
so
folks,
who
are
looking
to
switch
careers
will
often
do
that,
but
also
as
we
built
out
new
training
tracks,
we
invite
alumni
back
in.
So
we
didn't
used
to
run
solar,
so
if
that's
something
people
wanted
to
pivot
into,
they
would
come
back
as
alumni
go
through
that
track
and
then
go
to
solar.
A
But
you
know
we're
finding
people
are
staying
well
over
a
year
oftentimes
several
more
years,
both
within
the
city
folks,
are
very
loyal
once
they
get
in
the
city,
they're
staying
in
the
city
with
private
sector,
it
just
depends
on.
You
know
your
life
at
that
point
in
time,
but,
like
I
said,
we
have
folks
here,
five
six,
seven
years
in
the
city
at
this
point
and.
G
In
terms
of
entrepreneurship,
are
there
are
there
programs
to
help
interested
parties?
You
know
develop
their
own
business
plan
and
become
entrepreneurs
with.
Maybe
your
more
experienced
folks
is
there.
Is
there
help
and
support
for
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think
you're
you're
spot
on
it's
been,
it's
been
a
bunch.
I
think
gerald
actually
was
a
a
leader
in
pushing
us
to
say.
Like
hey,
you
know
this
is
an
emerging
industry.
Your
folks
are
getting
this
training,
you
know
they
they
could
be
owning
their
own.
They
could
be
contractors
for
the
water
department
themselves.
I
think
we
have
partnered
at
different
points
in
time
with
very
specific
alumni
who
are
interested
in
that
we
have
a
couple
who
own
their
own
contracting
businesses
now,
but
I
think
to
your
point,
you're
spot
on
that.
A
That's
something
we've
been
looking
to
bring
back
to
our
alumni
pool
is
sort
of
like
a
as
a
hey.
You've
been
in
you've,
been
in
the
industry
a
couple
years
now.
Here
we
can
bring
in
resources.
For
example,
in
the
pandemic
we
brought
in
a
financial
advisor
that
would
meet
with
folks
one-on-one
to
sort
of
talk
through
how
you
amplify
the
dollars.
You're
earning.
I
think
the
similar
thing
that
you're
getting
at
is
we
can
bring
in
experts
in
the
field
to
say
like.
If
you
want
to
come,
you
know
we
can.
A
G
A
Yeah
so
we'll
be
at
the
you
know:
the
career
fairs
at
high
schools
at
community
events
and
working
directly
with
counselors
within
school.
Specifically,
we
have
an
agricultural
high
school
as
well
as
career
and
technical
education,
high
schools,
but
again
anywhere.
That
will
let
us
in
we
we
come.
We
bring
members
like
samir
and
ali
and
we
pitch
them
as
hard
as
we
can
so
we're
we're
out
there
recruiting
as
much
as
we
can.
E
H
Mr
chair,
thank
you,
everybody
from
philly,
for
you
know
sitting
here
with
us
and
just
sharing
your
your
knowledge
and
your
experience.
I
just
had
a
quick,
maybe
a
couple
questions
for
john
and
ryan.
Like
would
you
john
it
like?
Do
you
have
infrastructure
improvements
like
you?
Have
an
inventory
of
infrastructure
improvements,
you'd,
be
able
to
hit
the
ground
running
with
and,
and
you
know,
keep
keep
people
busy.
L
Right
now,
we
we
contract
out
the
works
that
are
required
to
maintain
this
infrastructure,
the
ones
we
build.
We
do
it
for
three
years
and
we're
turning
them
back
over
the
city
yeah,
and
there
aren't
that
many
we
treated
a
little
different
than
what
philly
has.
We
haven't
done
as
much
as
the
visual
green
infrastructure,
we're
really
big
on
infiltration
underground
systems
matching
the
gray
kind
of
operation
with
the
beauty
of
green
infrastructure.
However,
we
recognize
the
need
for
additional
trees
in
front
of
our
building
at
harrison
avenue.
L
We
have
a
green
infrastructure
system
with
a
whole
bunch
of
trees.
You
know
we
don't
we,
we
don't
own
the
tree,
but
the
trees
working
with
our
system
to
work.
It
helps
with
the
heat
islands.
We
we
mustn't,
forget
the
whole
heat
island
issue
as
a
city
we
need
to
deal
with.
However,
when
we
implement
our
stormwater
fee,
we
know
of
over
2
000
infiltration
systems
in
the
city
already
constructed.
L
We've
got
the
dashboard
that
will
need
to
be
confirmed
that
they're
working
and
the
way
we
intend
on
doing
it
is
that
the
private
individual
that
wants
to
get
a
discount
on
the
fee
would
hire
an
independent
group
to
come
in
and
verify
to
us
that,
in
fact,
the
system
is
there
and
it's
working
so
that
would
create
a
jobs
creation
process
it
would,
they
would
pay
individually
to
have
it
certified
every
three
years
or
so
we'd
have
to
make
sure
the
cost
is
low,
but
that
would
confirm
to
us
that
we
could
reduce
their
fee
because
they're
helping
us
meet
our
goals.
H
Yeah,
so
on
those
infrastructure,
infrastructure
projects
do
do
your
engineers
design
those
are
they
all
privately
designed
and
you
guys
just
have
a
sign
off
on
them.
L
We
we've
done
both
we've
designed
them.
We
have
the
outside
engineers,
design
them
throughout
the
city.
There's
all
kinds
and
we
have
them
modify
them,
because
the
key
we
have
is
maintenance.
People
forget
you
can
build
the
most
beautiful
thing
in
the
world.
If
you
can
maintain
it
in
three
or
four
years,
you're
going
to
get
to
build
it
again,.
H
L
Well,
I
think
we're
looking
to
do
it
in
conjunction
with
public
works
and
parks.
If
we
build
streetscapes
and
with
all
the
work
you
know,
we
can
help
with
the
capital
so
that
it's
taking
care
of
our
obligation,
then
all
of
a
sudden
we
have
some
trees,
we're
really
bad
at
keeping
trees
alive.
So
we
need
the
parks
and
their
expertise
and
those
people
to
work
if
they
don't
have
the
maintenance
crews
so
between
us
public
works.
Who
has
the
obligation
for
the
street
drainage
along
with
us
and
pox
together?
L
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
fund
this,
and
my
own
idea
is
I,
like
the
idea
of
independent
outside
groups,
doing
it
not
necessarily
someone
on
the
payroll,
our
problem
with
the
payroll
whenever
it
comes
to
cut.
What
do
you
look
to
cut
first
yeah,
whereas
if
I
have
a
contract
and
I'm
only
using
them
so
many
months
a
year,
it's
a
fixed
cost.
I
know
what
my
costs
are
and
then,
when
we
reevaluate
fees,
we
can
reevaluate
that.
So
we
are
thinking
of
this.
We're
we're
getting
ready
to
put
this
together.
L
Q
Yeah
correct
and
if
I
can
just
add
on
to
to
john's
points
here
too,
I
think
we've
heard
this
a
few
times.
We
you
know
we
as,
as
you
know,
water
utility.
We
want
civil
service
right,
we
want
to
increase
our
workforce,
we
want
to
have
the
skill
set
on
board,
but
clearly
you've
heard
examples
now
of
the
the
the
professional
service
contracts
that
that
we,
you
know
we
fund
as
well.
You
know
these.
Q
The
the
members
of
powercore
are
working
for
those
firms
right
and
and
if
we're
getting
into
more
regulations
based,
you
know
stormwater
infrastructure.
Q
There
are
requirements
on
on
the
private
entities
to
maintain
and
they're
going
to
need
a
workforce,
so
those
are
instances
where
we're
not
directly
paying
for
that
that
maintenance,
but
we're
requiring
it
and
we
expect
it
to
occur
in
order
to
to
meet
our
regulatory
objectives.
So
the
opportunities
are
plenty,
and
I
think
you
have
to
look
at
it
from
that
broader
lens
right
I
mean
as
a
public
utility
we're
not
gonna
say
you
know
we're
gonna
hire
a
hundred
people
in
the
next
year
or
so
to
do
this
yeah.
Q
You
know
to
john's
point,
but
but
we're
investing
in
individuals
that
can
help
us
throughout
the
entire
chain,
whether
it's
enforcement
regulations.
You
know
and
again
it's
not
even
just
maintenance.
I
mean
think
about
the
ambassador
nature
right,
the
communication
nature.
We
can
have
folks
on
site
during
construction
who
understand
what
it
is,
we're
building
that
can
communicate
with
the
neighborhood
right,
they're,
neighborhood
ambassadors
as
well.
They
don't
need
to
just
be
maintenance.
We
can
get
involved
in
light
design
or
light
construction
as
well.
Q
So
I
mean
it's
really
just
about
giving
opportunities
to
our
residents
and
and
connecting
them
to
investments
that
we
need
to
make
so
thinking
about
it
from
all
the
different
delivery.
You
know
elements
is
really
important
and
that
again,
not
just
public
works
costs.
But
how
do
you
actually
start
to
to
connect
them
with?
You
know
private
development,
where
we
have
operations
and
maintenance
agreements
right
that
are
deeded
to
the
site,
they're
required
to
maintain
who's,
doing
that
maintenance.
Q
Some
of
them
are
going
to
be
alum
of
power
core,
because
they've
had
the
experience
and
they've
gone
through
the
program,
so
yeah
just
think
about
all
the
different
folks
that
could
take
advantage
of
of
a
burgeoning.
You
know
workforce
and
there's
a
lot
out
there.
S
H
Equal
parts,
environment
and
job
training,
which
is
areas
we
we
need
improvement
in
both
so
good
conversation.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
running
this.
E
G
Just
a
comment
when
we
had
our
when
we
had
our
list
of
industries
and
entities
in
the
city
who
could
benefit
from
this
program,
I
I
think
it
would
be
remiss
to
forget
our
non-profit
sector.
G
Our
hospitals
and
our
universities,
which
have
a
huge
footprint
in
the
city
of
boston-
and
I
know
harvard-
is-
is
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
this
green
infrastructure
because
they're
in
the
flood
plain
of
the
charles
river-
and
you
know
their
leaders
really,
but
it
is
a
best
kept
secret
and
I
think
they
they
as
well
might
be
another
source
of
pl
for
work
job
placements
and
and
experience
to
cultivate
this
this
new
workforce.
M
M
M
So
I
wanted
to
really
just
grab
a
comment
for
john
there
sure
so,
john.
You
know
we
spoke
a
lot
about
the
landscaping
or
the
surface
maintenance
that
we
do
using
paracore.
But
you
know
what
I
didn't
speak
to
is
the
way
that
philadelphia
systems
are
designed.
So
all
of
our
systems
typically
have
a
subsurface
component.
I
mean
it's
only.
You
know,
maybe
about
50
to
60
percent
that
have
the
vegetative
component.
So
we've
all
we
have
inlets.
We
have
subsurface
piping.
M
M
We
also
have
crews
that
go
out
and
do
subsurface
cctv,
inspection
and
we've
had
powercore
members
come
in
as
apprentices
in
our
in
our
flow
control
unit
and
they've
learned.
How
to
you
know,
work
at
instrumentation
and
are
now
us.
You
know
in
several
service
titles,
working
with
cctv,
inspection
on
inlet
cleaning
trucks
or
some
of
the
flushing
trucks
that
maintain
our
subsurface
assets.
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out.
There
is
another
potential:
it's
not
just
a
landscaping
piece
and
we're
reusing
them.
So
I
wanted
to
just
mention
that
to
you.
L
I
appreciate
that
and
the
also
the
ability
to
vacuum
any
of
these
surfaces.
We
have
that
the
sand
and
salt
get
on
that's
something
we
have
contracted
out,
but
we
would
look
at
that
for
permeable,
sidewalks,
permeable
pavement
or
other
such
things,
city
hall
plaza,
will
have
the
largest
permeable
paved
surface
than
anyone
has
ever
seen
when
they.
L
E
L
If
everything,
if,
if
mr
cook
keeps
everything
online,
it
will
be.
E
Excellent
well
done
good
all
right.
E
E
Chief
cook
and
I
never
miss
an
excuse
to
go
visit,
another
city
when
invited
so
as
soon
as
it's
safe
to
do
so,
and
I'm
seeing
a
lot
of
heads
nodding
in
agreement,
so
we'll
all
be
coming
down.
God
willing
this
summer
fall
we're
going.
I
can't,
I
see
you're
hand
raised
we're.
Actually
you
are
up
next
from
some
of
the
advocates
again.
E
The
purpose
is
just
if
you
have
a
statement,
but
if
you
also
have
questions
for
any
of
the
panelists,
but
before
we
get
to
you
just
wanted
to
see
if
counselor
blocker,
counselor
wu
had
any
further
questions
or
if
we
should
just
continue
and
go
right
into
the
advocates.
F
E
Up
excellent
okay,
so
I
know
david
michelan
I
believe,
had
to
leave
so
we're
gonna
have
ken
jackson
from
the
emerald
necklace
conservancy,
followed
by
parker
james
of
the
charles
gate
alliance
and
then
pat
alvarez
of
southwest
boston,
cdc.
So
kent,
please
the
floor
is
yours.
Thank.
T
You
matt,
I
appreciate
everybody
convening
this
conversation
in
this
group,
so
we
at
the
m,
nicholas
conservancy
for
over
10
years,
have
provided
programs
for
teens
15
to
18
that
are
specific
to
maintenance
of
our
parks.
So
it's
you
know
dead
heading,
it's
pruning!
It's
basic
plant
maintenance.
It
is
plant
bed
maintenance,
it's
planting,
it
is
invasive
removal.
T
We
also
have
a
program
that
is
specific
to
environmental
education,
giving
them
information
about
certain
science
concepts
as
well
as
giving
them
the
skills
to
then
go
out
and
to
perform
presentations
to
other
youth,
and
we
also
have
a
nature
connection
component,
where
we
believe
getting
our
teens
involved
in
nature.
First
will
help
them
give
them
the
desire
to
work
in
the
green
industries,
and
my
question
from
the
folks
from
philadelphia
is:
do
you
have
do
you
have
partners
with,
or
do
you
find
it?
T
A
T
A
It's
open
to
anyone
so,
and
the
only
requirement
we
do
have
is
a
high
school
diploma
or
ged
very
specifically,
because
we're
working
with
employers-
and
we
don't
want
that
to
be
a
barrier
if
you're,
otherwise
ready
for
employment.
We
want
to
make
sure
you
have
that
before
you
start
with
us,
but
for
that
specific
reason
we
partner
a
lot
with
high
schools,
alternative
high
schools,
other
folks
for
ged
providers,
but
really
it's
open
to
anyone,
we'll
train
you
from
the
from
the
jump
and
get
you
up
to
speed.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
kent
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
navigate
two
screens
here.
So
I'm
gonna
read
the
names
the
way
I
have
them.
I
and
if
I
don't
believe
folks
are
in
the
waiting
room.
If
they
are,
we
will
admit
you
is
parker.
James
or
pat
alvarez
with
us.
E
Hey
pat
okay,
if
you
want
to
go
right
ahead
and
then
is
perla
lara
with
you
as
well.
E
E
U
I
I
just
had
a
couple
of
this
has
been
really
interesting
and
informative
and
helpful.
I
just
mostly
for
city
council
members.
I
wanted
to
just
stress
a
couple
of
issues.
One
is
you
know.
I
hope
that
the
way
we
can
design
our
program
can
serve
both
kids,
who
are
having
this
as
their
first
work
experience
and
may
not
end
up
long-term
going
into
this
kind
of
work,
but
it's
just
as
valuable
and
critical
for
them.
U
We
notice
particularly
that
the
15
and
16
year
olds
are
really
not
future
oriented,
yet
their
minds
are
just
on
their
life
right
now,
so
we
try
to
provide
them
with
as
much
job
readiness
training.
You
know
life
skills,
training
to
prepare
them
for
whatever
job
we
find
that
the
17
and
18
year
olds
are
are
more
thinking
about
the
future,
so
we're
exposing
them
to
college
opportunities,
but
also
environmental
careers.
So
we
just
hope
that
that
can
be
understood.
U
The
other
thing
I
I
guess
I'm
wondering
about
is
the
environmental
education
piece
of
it,
not
just
a
tran
teaching
them
how
to
do
the
work
but
teaching
them
what's
happening
in
in
our
environment.
That
makes
this
work
so
critical.
We
need
that
component
as
well
in
our
program.
So
those
are
my
thoughts
as
I
was
listening
as
listening,
and
I
hope
that
that
all
that
is
that
you
know
all
that.
That
needs
to
happen
for
very
young
young
kids
can
get
really
the
support
that
it
needs.
E
I
appreciate
that
pat
and
obviously
agree
with
you.
I
think
the
beauty
of
this
is
this
is
sort
of
the
second
step
with
the
working
session,
as
you
know,
so,
as
we
continue
to
sort
of
flesh
things
out,
that
certainly
will
be
at
the
forefront
of
our
minds
and
as
we
as
we
sort
of
begin,
the
next
steps
is,
did
perla
have
some
remarks
as
well
and
again,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
navigate
a
couple
screens
here.
So
I'm
not
sure
willa.
O
U
O
O
O
But
when
we
do
trainings
about,
like
you
know,
invite
them
then
attorney
general's
office
to
teach
them
about
things.
O
When
you
turn
18
taxes
stuff
like
that,
like
pat,
was
saying,
we
do
job
readiness,
life
skills
beyond
just
what
they're
doing
on
hand
in
the
field
now,
and
so
those
youths
do
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
more
narrow-sided
about
just
earning
some
cash
for
the
summer,
making
some
friends
you
know
being
outdoors
so
making
it
a
program
that
will
still
engage
them
and
teach
them
new
things,
while
targeting
the
older
kids
as
well
and
helping
them
lead
into
what
we
eventually
want
us
career-oriented
things.
E
That's
helpful.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
perler.
Thank
you.
For
that
perspective,
I'm
going
to
briefly
turn
the
gavel
over
to
my
vice
chair,
counselor
wu.
I've
sent
her
the
name
of
the
of
the
other
advocates
who
will
speak,
and
I
will
be
back
in
about
five
minutes
so
counselor
wu.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Okay,
so
I
see
next
on
the
list
from
our
chair,
david
queeley,
but.
F
C
Whatever
that
sounds
great
counselor
bach,
so
let's
see
danilo
morales
looking
on
oh
and
we
have
some
folks
in
the
waiting
room
too,
okay
hold
on.
Let
me
bump
a
few
folks.
I
don't
see
danilo
here.
Maya
is
next
on
the
list.
So
carrie
could
I
get
some
help.
I
actually
can't
bump
folks
from
I
don't
have
full
host
authority.
It
could
be
maya
and
nishila
and
don
please
into
the
panelist
room.
F
And
then,
madam
chair,
I
know
that
karen
from
emerald
necklace
conservancy
is
also
here.
C
F
V
W
C
Why
don't
I
go
through
the
yeah?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you.
Why
don't
I
go
through
the
other
three
folks
who
are
on
our
list
and
then
we'll
go
right
to
you,
parker
and
karen
sure.
X
Hi,
so
I'm
coming
from
sunrise,
boston,
which
is
the
boston
hub
of
the
sunrise
movement,
which
is
a
national
movement,
fighting
for
good
jobs
and
a
livable
future,
and
a
central
part
of
that
is
a
green
new
deal,
especially
on
the
city
level.
And
one
thing
that
we
really
emphasize
in
our
movement
is
the
solidarity
across
the
movement.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
the
folks
from
power
corps
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you
center
racial
and
economic
justice
in
your
work.
A
And
that
I
mean
for
us
that
is
our
founding
mission,
so
it's
baked
right
into
everything.
We
do
it's
why
we
were
started
so
we
weren't
started
just
to
address
climate
issues.
We
were
specifically
started
to
address
climate,
economic
and
racial
equity
issues.
But
honestly,
if
zamir
ali
want
to
speak
to
that,
you
know,
I
think
they
can
speak
very
directly
of
their
experience
with
that
themselves.
B
Okay,
hi
everyone,
I'm
ali.
I
am
the
operational
support,
fellow
at
powercore.
I
guess
to
speak
to
that,
just
in
our
entire
demographic,
every
cohort,
just
being
alongside
people
and
hearing
everyone's
story.
Most
people
come
from
these
issues
that
you're
asking
that
we
address
come
from
in
pop
impoverished
communities
in
philadelphia.
B
Most
people
are
people
of
color,
most
people,
not
most
people,
but
a
lot
of
us
have
dealt
with
or
have
similar
barriers
when
it
comes
to
like
the
criminal
justice
system
and
powercore
also
has
made
it
especially
with
you
know,
everything
happening
a
few
months
ago
when
it
came
to
like
george
floyd
and
everything
has
made
it
very
important
to
address
these
things
and
make
sure
that
their
members
know
that
these
things
are
important
to
us
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
our
workforce
development.
B
That
within
itself
is
just
a
boost
to
these
demographics
and
making
sure
that
they're,
sorry,
that's
my
phone,
I'm
important
right
now
and
making
sure
that
we
are
not
just
ready,
but
ahead
of
the
game.
That's
something
that
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
like
recruitment
and
intakes
and
letting
people
know
that
power
core.
B
Not
only
just
gets
you
ready
but
boosts
you
ahead
of
so
many
people,
even
people
who
have
degrees
accolades
on
top
of
accolades
boost
you
ahead
of
people
without
having
to
spend
money
that
people
may
not
have
because
they're
coming
from
these
demographics
and
barriers.
P
Yeah,
I
agree.
I
agree
with
island
with
that
and
from
my
experience
with
powercore,
you
get
to
meet
a
lot
of
people
with
experiences
that
you
probably
never
experienced
so
throughout
the
year
and
a
half
that
I've
been
here,
I
met
so
many
people
who
just
changed
my
life
on
a
personal
level
just
because,
like
it's
their
experiences
that
they
went
through
in
their
life
and
seeing
them
still
come
to
work
every
day
and
still
fight
and
still
persevere
every
day.
It's
just
like
it's
inspiring
just
to
work
with
so
many
different
people.
B
And
if
I
could
just
add
one
more
thing,
one
of
the
things
that
makes
power
core
so
great
is,
I
guess,
the
term
it's
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
a
philly
term,
I
guess
spinning
the
block
a
lot
of
people
who
still
aren't
quite
ready
for
power
core.
They
aren't
just
shunned.
B
It
might
not
be
your
time
for
power
quarters
what
they
like
to
say
a
lot
and
those
members
who
are
like
exited
if
they
finally
are
ready
at
a
later
time,
can
attempt
to
return
after
having
a
conversation
with
culture
and
climate
and
making
sure
that
they
have
addressed
and
progressed
in
certain
areas
that
they
struggled
before,
which
you
know
coming
from
these
communities
and
coming
from
certain
environments
a
lot
of
people
when
they
come
to
power
court
first
they're
not
ready
for
workforce
development,
they're,
not
ready
to
build
these
bonds
and
being
able
to
come
back
and
say:
okay,
I've
grown
a
little
bit
and
I'm
ready
and
have
those
welcome
arms
that
they
might
not
get
at
home.
B
They
might
not
have
those
supports
and
have
those
supports
available
at
powercore.
It's
just
priceless
and
again
adds
to
you
know,
boosting
these
demographics
that
definitely
need
to
be.
X
Thank
you
and
then
I
just
had
one
more
question.
If
there's
time
so,
we
have
a
really
strong
network
of
organizers,
climate,
racial
justice,
economic
justice,
organized
labor
in
boston,
and
a
lot
of
us
tend
to
work
together
on
issues
that
are
related
on
what
power
corps
works
on.
I
was
wondering
if
in
philly
you
work
with
community
organizations
or
advocacy
groups
within
the
city,
and
if
you
could
just
talk
about
that,
a
little
bit.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
we
really
see
ourselves
as
part
of
the
the
larger
community
electric
fabric.
So
we're
constantly,
you
know
engaging
new
partners
we'll
do
projects
with
community-based
farms,
for
example,
we'll
work
on
advocacy
together
we're
part
of
a
national
advocacy
group
with
the
core
networks.
I
think
you
know
we
we
want
to
do
our
part
to
the
to.
I
mean
part
of
why
we're
here
today
is
like
we're
happy
for
this
to
spread
as
much
as
possible.
C
Okay:
okay,
wonderful!
Thank
you
very
much,
maya
next
michela,
I'm
sure
I'm
pronouncing
your
name
wrong.
I
apologize.
Y
Hi,
my
name
is
nasheela
porter,
I'm
with
the
charles
river
watershed
association.
I
think
the
philadelphia
power
corps
program
is
very
exciting
and
it's
great
that
boston
is
taking
steps
to
bridge
the
racial
wealth
gap
by
presenting
opportunities
for
underrepresented
communities
to
be
involved
with
the
growing
jobs
and
green
infrastructure
and
stormwater
investment.
A
I
think
I'd
take
the
second
one
so
because
it's
a
it's
largely
an
economy
that
is
driven
by
the
water
department.
You
know
we,
we,
you
know
trained
to
the
specs
of
the
gi
manual
maintenance
manual
that
they
put
out
and
in
philly
certain
certifications
were
not
required
or
not
needed.
That
said,
like
I
said,
I
work
in
boston
for
them,
the
gicp
certification
is
their
is
their
gold
standard,
and
so
we
we
are
working
to
train
towards
that
curriculum.
So
I
think
it
really
there.
A
C
K
So
my
name
is
don
sands,
I'm
co-founder
and
executive
director
of
excel
education
here
in
boston.
We
started
the
excel
conservation
core
here
in
boston
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
so
we're
much
younger
than
power
core,
but
we
are
working
in
the
green
infrastructure
and
and
water
wastewater
sector.
So
we
recruit
young
adults
18
to
29
year
olds,
unemployed
and
underemployed,
primarily
young
adults
of
color
here
in
boston
and
we
prepare
we.
K
We
do
water
conservation
projects,
work
projects
that
are
paid
in
collaboration
with
child's
river
waters,
association
and
other
environmental
groups
in
the
area,
and
we
also
do
classes
in-house
to
prepare
them
for
their
wastewater
license
here
in
massachusetts.
So
they
can
get
a
job
as
a
wastewater
operator
which
pays
very
well
here
in
massachusetts,
and
so
this
was
a
great
presentation
and
I'm
really
really
excited
to
hear
everything
they're
doing
at
powercore.
K
I'd
like
to
just
encourage
those
of
us
in
boston
to
focus
on
a
few
areas
that
I
think
they're
doing
super
well,
so
I
love
the
fact
that
they're
doing
multiple
tracks.
I
think
we
should
include
multiple
tracks
and
what
we
do
here
in
boston
that
that
has
two
benefits.
One
is
that
not
everyone's
gonna
have
the
same
interest
of
what
career
they
want
to
go
into
so
you're
gonna
recruit
a
much
larger
body,
but
also
it
enables
you
to
place
a
lot
more
people
into
into
well-paying
careers.
K
Those
of
us
that
are
doing
the
work
now
in
wastewater
we're
not
able
to
place
100
people
into
wastewater,
there's
just
not
that
many
jobs
available
for
a
year
so
having
a
lot
more
having
multiple
tracks,
you're
going
to
be
able
to
place
many
more
people
into
careers.
I
think
it's
really
crucial
that
you
have
city
department,
commitment
that
was
clear
from
what
gerald
shared,
and
I
know
that
you
did,
that
being
able
to
do
that.
K
You'll
be
able
to
place
a
lot
of
these
young
people
of
color
into
well-paying
city
jobs
in
the
city
of
boston,
which
is
really
important
right
now,
with
the
excel
conservation
corps.
Most
of
our
placements
are
with
private
companies
that
are
operating
with
these
water
plants.
So
having
that
opening
in
the
city
is,
I
think,
really
important.
I
love
the
fact
that
they're
doing
paid
training
work.
We
do
the
same
thing.
I
think
when
you're
working
with
this
population
of
young
adults,
they
have
expensive
support
themselves.
K
I
love
the
fact
that
they're
doing
more
than
just
they
may
have
started,
but
they're
not
doing
just
trash
removal
or
landscaping
they're
doing
much
more
in-depth
work
that
involves
you,
know,
data
collection
and
involves
higher
level
thinking,
skills
which
I
think
is
really
important
for
this
population
as
to
focus
on
higher
level
skills,
and
we
do
that
in
excel.
I
think,
having
both
public
and
private
placements
for
economic
equity
leading
to
well-paying
careers
is
really
important.
K
We
don't
want
to
just
give
people
jobs
where
they're
having
a
great
experience,
but
when
they
finish
they
don't
have
the
skills
or
the
certification
to
be
able
to
go
into
a
well-paying
career
that
has
advancement
opportunities
and
working
for
the
city
working
for
the
union,
working
in
a
wastewater,
for
example,
or
water
distribution,
drinking
water,
those
are
well-paying
careers,
they
have
opportunities
to
move
up
a
ladder,
get
higher
licensures
and
as
it
leads
to
a
middle
class
career,
and
I
think
that
should
be
the
goal
if
we're
really
interested
in
economic
equity.
K
So
those
are
those
are
my
comments.
I
I
think
that,
although
the
presentation
is
really
awesome-
and
I
think
if
we
can
try
to
incorporate
a
lot
of
those
aspects
that
they're
doing
at
power
core
into
our
model,
I
think
that
will
really
lead
to
success
and
I
don't
know
julie
if
you
have
any
comments
on
that.
But
I
just
I
was
very
impressed.
M
M
We
started
with
three
four
admins
and
a
handful
of
contractors.
So
when
we
brought
on
powercore
it
was
still
very
much.
You
know
it
was
a
big
ask.
It
was
very
new
to
the
department,
so
we
thought
you
know.
Let's
make
sure
we
can
prove
the
efficacy
here.
You
know
when
we
collected
a
lot
of
data,
so
you
know
we
didn't
incorporate
power
core
initially
into
our
work
order
management
system,
but
we
had
them
collecting
data.
M
We
formatted
it
into
spreadsheets
and
databases,
and
at
the
end
of
the
year
we
were
able
to
say
this
code
port
removed.
You
know
19
20
tons,
you
know.
After
a
year
we
were
going
up
to
hundreds
of
tons
of
year
degree
removed
so
that
beta
really
worked
to
support.
You
know
the
efficacy
of
the
program
and
to
really
show
you
know
that
that
power
core
is
having
a
big
impact.
M
K
B
Great,
if
I
just
wanted
to
speak
on
the
data
part
to
like
and
when
it
comes
to
like
being
like
self-sustain,
sustaining
and
providing
like
a
sense
of
leadership
within
crews,
because
data
can
be
like
a
lot
to
collect.
When
you
have
multiple
crews
out
in
different
areas.
B
We
assign
crew
members
roles,
and
one
of
them
is
data
collection,
which
is
how
we
get
a
lot
of
our
data
in
our
foundation's
cohort.
Because
there's
a
google
form
that
they
fill
out
every
day
and
that's
how
we
collect
our
data.
K
I
just
like
to
say
also
that
we
do
data
collection
with
our
conservation,
core
crews
when
they're
out
doing
water
quality
testing,
and
I
think
that
what's
awesome
about
that
too,
is
it's
preparing
them
for
future
work,
they're
going
to
have
to
do
in
the
fields,
because
when
they
get
into
these
careers,
there's
a
lot
of
data
collection
involved,
there's
a
lot
of
sampling
and
and
data
collection,
so
if
they
can
start
being
introduced
to
those
skills
at
this
point,
it
prepares
them
for
the
next
steps
in
this
in
this
field.
So
yeah.
E
Thank
you,
everybody
and
thank
you,
council
rule
for
allowing
me
to
step
off
for
a
couple
of
minutes,
so
we're
gonna
now
go
back
to
parker
james
and
then
I
see
karen
and
david
will
follow
parker,
but
parker.
Do
you
have
a
yeah.
W
Can
you
hear
me
yep?
Okay,
great
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
city
councilors,
it's
so
smart
to
reach
out
to
our
colleagues
in
philadelphia.
I
am
a
huge
fan
of
philadelphia.
I
traveled
there,
often
and
so
impressed
at
you
know
the
way
you
know
a
city
with
similar
challenges.
W
W
So
thank
you
so
much
for
doing
this.
We
all
got.
Those
of
us
who
have
been
listening
got
so
much
out
of
your
presentation
today
I'll
try
to
keep
this
brief,
because
I
have
so
much
to
say.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
for
you
know
I'm
co-founder
of
the
charles
gate
alliance,
but
I
also
want
to
express
support
for
another
project,
which
is
the
friends
of
melania
cass
boulevard
project
and
in
both
cases
I
think
that
a
boston
conservation
corps
could
really
play
an
important
role.
W
So
you
know
please
city
councilors,
when
you're,
when
we're
thinking
about
the
melania,
cass
greenway,
think
about
you
know
what
a
positive
role
the
boston
conservation
corps
could
play
to
to
the
roxbury
community
and,
to
you
know
improving
the
landscape.
There,
melania
cass,
boulevard
and
charles
gate
are
similar
in
that
they
have
jurisdictional
challenges,
melania
cass
boulevard.
You
know
it's
open
space,
but
it's
not
parkland
specifically
and
therefore
is
underserved
and
underprotected.
W
In
the
case
of
charles
gate,
we
are
commonwealth
of
massachusetts,
so
we're
in
the
middle
of
one
of
the
most
densely
populated
part
of
the
city
parts
of
the
city,
but
the
city
government
has
no
jurisdiction
in
our
park
and
instead,
jurisdiction
is
in
the
like
totally
under
resourced
state
level,
department
of
conservation
and
recreation
dcr,
which,
among
other
things,
provides.
You
know
they
provide
very
limited
maintenance
and
no
trash
receptacles
or
trash
pickup.
So,
for
example,
we're
right
by
fenway
park.
W
We
have
tens
of
thousands
of
baseball
fans
going
to
and
from
no
place
to
throw
anything.
So
I
like
throw
it
on
our
grass.
W
So
you
know,
plastic
court
could
really
help
us
with
maintenance,
and
you
know
various
other
things
so
think
of
trash
pickup,
but
it
was
also
really
interesting,
interesting
to
hear
the
philadelphia
people
and
also
john
sullivan
talk
about
the
challenges
of
sort
of
volunteer
based
green
infrastructure
maintenance.
That's
something
we
really
want
to
implement
at
trollsgate,
and
you
know
really
great
to
hear
of
of
the
philadelphia
experience,
vis-a-vis
training,
et
cetera
for
agree
with
green
green
infrastructure
maintenance.
W
So
I
also
want
to
talk
about
at
charles
gate.
We
because
dcr
doesn't
really
provide
adequate
maintenance.
W
We
have
contracted
with
a
private
organization
called
project
place
who
hires
at-risk
adults
to
do
maintenance
work
at
various
parts
of
the
city,
but
it's
a
great
great
organization
and
although
I
think
it's
fantastic
counselors
that
there's
such
a
strong
emphasis
on
youth
education
here,
I
hope
that
you
will
keep
in
mind
that
there's
also,
you
know
a
large
number
of
at-risk
adults
that
could
really
benefit
from
being
looped
in
to
this
sort
of
organization.
W
I
mean
there
are
real
opportunities
here,
and
so
please
open
your
mind
to
that
and
I'll.
You
know
I'll.
Stop
shortly,
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
our.
What
do
you
want
to
say
our
adjacent
organization,
the
muddy
water
initiative?
W
Carolyn
reeves
did
a
fantastic
job
at
corralling,
large
numbers
of
young
volunteers
to
do
green
water
infrastructure
maintenance
at
her
water,
goat,
which
was
cleaning
the
surface
of
the
muddy
river
this
last
summer,
and
one
of
the
great
things
that
she
did
was
she
got
a
grant
to
hire
a
volunteer
coordinator
and
she
ended
up
with
more
young,
interesting
bostonians
working
that
she
knew
what
to
do
with
so
the
the
person
power
is
there
there's
so
much
excitement,
so
just
please
implement
this
and
everything
will
go
forward
and
I've
said
my
bit.
W
Thank
you
tell
us
what
we
can
do
to
help
all
right
and
I'll
shut
up.
E
Hey,
thank
you
parker.
No,
I
appreciate
your
testimony
and
then
to
tell
you
to
answer
your
question.
What
you
can
do
to
help
it's
precisely
what
you're
doing
right
now
just
we're
using
this
space
to
convene
it.
Obviously,
this
thing
isn't
as
simple
as
we're
gonna,
you
know
flip
a
switch
and
start
this
tomorrow,
but
I
think
there
is
enormous
appetite
and
real
momentum
for
pushing
this
forward
as
we
go
through
our
budget
process
and
beyond.
E
So
I
think
the
best
thing
we
can
all
do
is
stay
in
communication
figure
out
our
best
way
to
move
forward
and
again
look
at
some
best
practices
around
the
region.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Karen
mounty
broderick
from
the
emerald
necklace
conservancy,
is
next
and
then
followed
by
david
echelon
from
speak
for
the
trees.
So
karen
the
floor
is
yours,
great.
V
D
V
Jackson
got
to
also
a
couple
of
questions.
I
do
actually
have
a
couple
of
specific
questions.
One
of
them
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
question
that
parker
has,
and
I
you
know,
the
emerald
necklace
in
and
of
itself
is
1
100
acres
and
it
has
several
different
owners.
V
You
know
of
many
many
different
jurisdictions,
so
I'd
love
to
hear
from
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
terms
of
your
program,
were
you
able
to
you
know
what
percentage
of
your
work
was
on
city,
land,
state
land,
other
kind
of
quasi
public
lands
versus
private?
You
know,
maybe
you
had
agreements
even
with
private
property
owners.
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
hear
that
if
I
might
yeah.
V
So,
city
land,
not
not
state
land-
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
no
just
city
city,
land,
okay,
so
I
I
would
love
it
if
we
could
have
an
agreement
that
we
could
also
do
state
land
like
parker,
was
saying
there's
so
much.
We
can't
even
tell
the
border
frankly
between
where
some
of
the
city
in
the
state
ends
and,
of
course
the
emerald
necklace
is
the
first
piece
of
green
infrastructure.
We
just
spent
like
what
60
million
dollars
to
renovate
it
because
we
didn't
take
care
of
it.
V
You
know
for
a
long
time,
so
you
know
to
deal
with
the
dredging
and
erosion
issues
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
would
really
love
to
know
how
we
could
partner
and
think
about
is
that
we
have
hundreds
of
kids
that
have
young
people,
boston,
public
schools,
students,
mainly
that
have
gone
through
the
programs
that
kent
and
others
have
been
leading
in
all
these
organizations
with
ms
alvarez
and
others
that
we
we
would
love
to
keep
in
touch
with
we'd
love
to
provide
them
these
kinds
of
green
jobs,
but
we
hadn't
had
a
place
to
send
them.
V
So
I
think
when
this
program
is
set
up,
we
have
we
have
names
to
refer.
You
know
to
the
older,
the
older
programs
for
these
this
job
development.
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense
what
I'm
saying:
kenzie's
furring
her
brow,
but
okay,
because
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
youth
that
we
have
been
training,
but
that
we've
been
it's
been
frustrating
that
there
hasn't
necessarily
been
this
immediate
place,
except
for
working
with
forestry
contractors
that
work.
You
know
in
the
suburbs
and
sometimes
come
into
the
city.
V
You
know
so
that
has
been.
Unfortunately,
I
think,
there's
a
little
bit
of
limitation
there
in
terms
of
the
returning
citizens
work.
We
had
a
returning
citizens
program
that
you
know
struggle.
I
will
say
it's
struggle
and
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
from
philadelphia.
How
did
you
did
you
have
a
main
public
partner
that
you
developed
your
returning
citizens
program
with?
How
did
you
you
know
what
was
your
best
partner,
because
we've
been
working
with
the
department
of
corrections
and
it
hasn't
recently
it
hasn't
been.
V
A
I
think
in
terms
of
inflow
in
and
then
I'm
happy
to
for
jasmine,
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
adaptations
we
make
to
our
own
program
to
address
sort
of
you
know
common
common
struggles
and
bears
that
folks
have
but
primarily
probation
and
parole
on
the
county
level,
but
also
with
reentry
programs.
One
of
them
was
city
iran.
A
We
have
a
office
of
re-entry
within
city
government,
but
we
also
have
a
city-wide
coalition
of
ranching
providers
so
as
part
of
that
whole
network,
we're
working
with
public
defenders
or
judges
with
probation
officers
and
paroles
to
get
those
referrals
from
folks
to
get
their
clients
into
our
program,
and
I
think,
if
you're
asking
more
about
like
how
do
we
then
sort
of
like
work
with
folks-
and
I
think
jasmine
can
answer
a
little
bit
more
of
that.
Z
All
right,
I
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
services
that
are
provided,
the
supportive
services
that
are
provided
for
everyone,
but
as
they
can
help
to
remove
barriers
to
successful
completion
of
the
program
and
to
give
people
access
to
sustainable
future
employment,
including
returning
citizens.
Z
One
of
the
components
that
we
have
in
our
supportive
services
department
is
some
some
legal
support
and
that's
not
necessarily
like
law
defense
like
criminal
defense,
but
things
like
we
have
an
expungement
clinic
so
for
folks
who
have
certain
kinds
of
charges
usually
misdemeanors
on
their
record.
This
can
be
a
barrier
to
future
employment,
so
we
have
been
lucky
enough
to
partner
with
some
organizations
that
give
us
legal
support
so
that
people
can
apply
to
expunge
their
their
records
and
in
some
cases,
to
hear
if
you
want.
Z
If
you
want
to
be
pardoned,
if
you
have
a
felony,
you
must
apply
for
a
pardon
from
the
governor.
So
there
are
some
people
who
have
started
that
process
as
well,
and
also
we
just
engage
in
communication
with
people's
probation
officers
if
necessary.
Z
In
order
to
help
you
know,
let
folks
know
what
people
are
doing
when
they're
participating
in
our
programs,
sometimes
that
has
led
to
a
shortening
of
people's
probationary
periods,
which
is
also
extremely
helpful
in
barrier
removal
in
the
future
for
sustainable
future
employment,
because
you
can
imagine
if
you
need
to
report
to
your
po's
office
weekly
or
twice
a
month
or
with
some
regular
frequency
during
business
hours.
Z
Employers
can
have
some
challenges
with
that.
It
can
be
difficult
to
maintain
employment
if
that's
something
that
you're
contending
with
with
long
probationary
periods.
So
those
are
just
a
couple
of
the
things
that
we
do
for
folks.
We
have
a
really
comprehensive
kind
of
case
management
and
social
support
network
things
like
assistance
with
applying
for
benefits
that
can
help
people
to
be
able
to
show
up
and
be
present
like
snap
benefits
or
what
some
people
call
food
stamps.
Z
So
again,
this
is
a
short,
a
short
amount
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
on
our
supportive
services
team
in
order
to
really
remove
some
of
these
barriers
and
allow
people
the
opportunity
to
take
part
in
this
program.
V
Thank
you
for
that
I
mean
you
know
it
needs
a
real
network
and
I
don't
think
we
were
able
to
really.
You
know
in
the
program
that
we
didn't
really
have
that
full
kind
of
network
of
of
services.
So
I
think
it's
really
helpful
to
to
to
hear
that.
I
guess
the
last
question
I
had
for
philadelphia
is:
were
you
so
the
work
that
you
did?
The
work
that
you
do
with
powercore
is
that
consider?
V
Is
that
sort
of
maintenance
and
maintenance
focused,
or
is
there
also
a
plug-in
or
a
piece
of
this
that
can
partner
with
active
capital
projects
that
the
city
might
be
contracting
for
or
it
you
know,
I'm
just
wondering
how
how
that
could
work,
or
if
you
do,
that,
with
a
capital
projects
that
are
ongoing.
M
So
at
this
point
you
know
it
is
restricted
to
the
work,
that's
being
done
in
operations.
So
again,
that's
that's
mostly.
You
know
maintenance
there.
As
I
did
mention
earlier,
though
there
are
some
alumni
who
are
who
work
with
inspection
crews,
so
you
know
they're
much
more.
M
I
won't
say
much
more,
but
they
do
a
little
more
technical
work
than
some
of
the
other
crews
are
doing
in
regards
to
maintenance
and
pressure.
They
operate
instrumentation.
So,
although
it
is
all
on
the
operation
side,
it
is
varied
in
scope,
from
inspection
to
maintenance,
to
even
aspect
to
data
collection.
Q
Q
You
know,
power
core
members
involved
in
in
light
design
and
light
construction
as
an
expansion
on
what
we're
doing-
and
you
know
I
I
I'm
gonna-
have
to
run,
but
I
did
there's
been
like
one
thought:
that's
been
stewing
in
my
head
the
whole
time
here
and-
and
you
know,
and
I
think
it
was
counselor
baker
that
said
it
before
this
is
this-
is
about
workforce
development
and
kind
of
giving
opportunities
to
our
residents
as
much
as
it
is
about
trying
to
fill
needs
as
a
water
department
right
trying
to
get
our
job
done
at
the
water
department.
Q
So
you
you
have
to
look
at
it
from
both
those
those
those
avenues.
You
have
to
be
aligned.
You
have
to
find
those
opportunities
and
the
water
department
just
has.
We
has
neat
needs
and
wants
and
opportunities
with
our
investments
and
what
power
core
has
allowed
us
is
to
is
to
to
satisfy
those
needs
with
an
amazing
program
right.
That
is
well
managed.
Well,
run,
you
know
the
recruitment,
that's
right
it,
they
they
kind
of
integrate.
You
know
together
for
sure,
but
I
I
can't
help
but
think
about
you
know.
Q
Q
You
know
in
in
in
the
next
few
decades,
and
really
what
we're
doing
is
we're
investing
in
neighborhoods
and
leveraging
kind
of
what's
under
the
neighborhood
right,
at
least
from
a
water
department
perspective
and
and
what
better
way
than
when
you
invest
in
your
neighborhood
by
employing
the
people
who
live
in
those
neighborhoods,
and
I
can't
I
can't
stress
enough-
the
the
ambassador
and
the
the
the
you
know
just
the
connection
you
have
with
the
communities
you're
trying
to
serve
by
hiring
and
working
with
the
folks
in
those
communities,
and
that
to
me
is
the
special
part
here
is
that
this
is
about
opportunity
and-
and
we
have
to
think
what
is
it
we're
trying
to
do.
Q
I
know
we
have
to
think
about
it
from
a
bottom
line
costing
standpoint.
I
know
you
know,
there's
all
these
logistics,
but
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
we
are
trying
to
give
opportunities
to
to
to
folks
that
have
not
been
given.
You
know
fair
opportunity
prior
and
and
and
we
as
a
as
a
department
has
to
have
to
spend
billions
of
dollars.
Q
You
know
fixing
stuff
in
our
communities
and-
and
I
want
our
residents
to
to
be
part
of
it
and
what
you're
seeing
is
a
little
element
of
it
and
the
program
has
been
special.
You
know
it's
funny
gerald
hopped
on
about
10
minutes
before
this
call
totally
didn't
know
he
was
supposed
to
be
on
this
call,
and
I
think
you
know
the
energy
you
see
from
him
is
an
example
of
the
impact
and
the
importance
and
the
inspiration
I
think,
of
what
power
corps
has
meant
to
the
water
department.
So
I'll
just
leave
with
that.
Q
This
is
something
that
should
be
you
know,
replicated
in
every
city.
I'll
agree
with
john's
point
earlier.
Why
reinvent
the
wheel
pick
what
works
and
and
make
it
work
even
better,
and-
and
I
really
encourage
many
conversations
like
this-
you
know
in
the
future
and
and
as
a
water
department
representative
happy
to
talk
about
kind
of
the
big,
the
bigger
program-
and
I
think
julia,
as
she
mentioned
before
very
happy
to
to
kind
of
tell
you
about
all
the
logistics
and
and
how
to
make
it
work
from
the
power
core
side.
Q
So
I'm
gonna
run,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
not
just
represent
the
city,
but
to
be
part
of
this
conversation
it
will
work
in
boston.
I
guarantee
you
a
program
like
power.
Core
will
work
in
boston
because
it
has
to
right
and
and
and
there's
opportunity
at
plenty,
so
I'm
gonna
run.
Thank
you
so
much
take
care
and
please
always
reach
out
to
water
department,
we'll
figure
out
a
way
to
to
assist
in
anyway.
All
right
thanks.
E
Thank
you
mark,
thank
you
for,
for
those
inspiring
words
great
great
way.
To
conclude
your
remarks
appreciate
it.
Next
we've
got
david
meshalam
in
naibu,
and
then
I
think
kent
jackson
may
have
a
follow-up
question.
If
anyone
else
would
like
a
further
question
or
someone
perhaps
whom
I
haven't
called
on
yet
please
raise
your
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
but
david
pl.
Please
please
proceed
what.
S
Is
yours,
thank
you,
matt
for
not
only
pronouncing
my
name
correctly,
but
not
confusing
me
with
my
brother.
You
know
well
thank
you
as
good
to
see
so
many
friendly
faces
and
to
learn
about
the
great
work
in
philadelphia
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
kenzie.
My
name
is
david
meshrilam.
A
couple
of
years
ago
I
decided
raisingly
to
like
you,
julia
found
a
new
organization.
S
It's
called
speak
for
the
trees,
boston
and
we
focus
on
community
trees
and
our
urban
forest
here
in
boston
and
one
of
our
first
programs
that
we've
run
successfully
for
two
summers.
Now
is
it
been
our
teen
urban
tree
core,
and
I
just
wanted
to
also
highlight
that
our
partners
over
at
american
forest
created
their
own
tree
core
this
summer,
that's
being
funded
by
tazo
t
and
sizza,
the
the
hip-hop
musician,
and
although
we
don't
have
scizza
here
in
boston,
there's
real
excitement.
I
think
nationally
for
this
type
of
work.
S
So
maybe
we
could
get
a
duncan
marky
mark
version
of
the
tree
core
here
in
boston,
so
this
year
we're
really
leaning
into
this
idea
of
workforce
development
and
tree
equity
in
boston
and
our
program
and
and
I'd
be.
S
I
look
forward
to
sharing
that
with
you
as
we're
developing
it
and
thinking
about
how
it
it
sort
of
interlaces
with
all
these
overlapping
ideas.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
and
I
had
to
step
out
from
10
to
11,
so
you
may
have
mentioned
this,
but
for
the
folks
from
philadelphia,
I'm
curious
to
hear
what
your
relationship
is
like
with
other
non-profits
and
specifically
I'm
talking
about
tree
philly.
And
if
you
spoke
about
this
earlier
I'll,
just
look
at
the
recording.
A
No
we're
not
we,
we
we
work
with
as
many
local
non-profits
and
as
we
can
so
we
actually
do
quite
a
bit
of
the
plantings
for
the
tree
philly
initiative
in
philly
over
over
a
thousand
tree
plantings
a
year.
For
specifically
for
that
initiative
we
joined
fundraise
with
them
to
make
those
things
happen,
that's
one
example
of
working
with
those,
but
and
then
we
have,
I
think
you
might
have
missed
us.
A
We
have
a
urban
farcery
track,
specifically
to
start
that
was
built
out
with
them
to
meet
some
of
the
needs
that
we
were
seeing
around
the
maintenance
once
you
plant
them
every
time
we
plant
a
tree,
we
commit
to
two
years
of
watering
and
maintenance
to
it.
So
you
know
that
just
adds
to
our
workload
with
the
parks
and
with
tree
philly,
but
it's
it's
all
baked
in
there
and
really
it's
just
finding.
S
Great
thank
you
and
and
like
you
were
undergoing
an
urban
forest
plan
in
the
coming
year
or
two
and-
and
I
think
this
is
an
exciting
opportunity
for
these
things-
to
sort
of
talk
across
departments
talk
across
non-profit
and
and
industry,
and
it
does
have
to
be
a
holistic
approach.
S
So,
looking
to
your
great
work
again,
I
can't
I
can't
repeat
enough
the
idea
that
we
should
not
be
reinventing
the
wheel
that
there's
great
work
not
only
in
philly,
but
we
see
it
in
places
like
atlanta,
san
francisco
sort
of
all
over
the
country.
There's
energy
around
this.
So
thank
you
for
joining
us.
E
Thank
you
very
much
david
before
I
want
to
take
folks
who
haven't
spoken
yet
so
before
we
get
to
kent,
I
will
ask
my
favorite
constituent,
who
blushes
every
time
I
say
that
sarah
freeman
thank
you
for
joining
us.
Sarah
who's
been
a
great
parks
advocate
for
many
many
years
and
resident
jamaica,
plain.
AA
Hi
everyone
thank
you
for
making
me
blush
again
and
flustered
before
I
speak.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
thinking
about
doing
this.
Young
people
are
our
future
and
creating
meaningful
jobs
for
hard
to
employ.
Adults
is
huge,
so
you
all
know
I'm
a
green
in
and
out
person,
it's
so
easy
to
take
nature
for
granted
and
even
with
all
the
evidence
this
year
with
people
flocking
to
the
parks
that
doesn't
translate
to
jobs
waiting
at
at
the
other
end
automatically.
AA
AA
Something
they
see
as
important
and
and
not?
Everyone
wants
a
desk
job,
and
so
I
know
norfolk.
I
think
this
came
up
at
the
previous
hearing.
There's
an
agricultural
school
at
norfolk,
but
boston
maybe
needs
to
do
some
catching
up
in
that
training
on
the
arbor
ways,
similar
I'll
just
echo.
Most
of
what
parker
said.
AA
We're
also,
oh,
I
forgot
to
say,
I'm
with
the
arbor
way
coalition
in
jp
we're
a
part
of
the
emerald
necklace,
but
under
the
state
jurisdiction
and
our
one
experience
kind
of
related
to
this
is
we
used
to
partner
with
umass
extension
had
a
program.
They
called
the
boston
urban
stewards
and
we
would
hire
young
people
to
water
newly
planted
trees
to
improve
their
chance
of
survival.
AA
But
this
was
not
an
easy
job
like
we
had
wagons
and
buckets
and
in
the
heat
of
the
summer,
dragging
dragging
water
to
each
tree
and
having
to
cross
high-speed
roads.
So
I'm
curious,
I
don't
know
if
philadelphia
has
or
maybe
the
answer
is
hire
a
watering
truck
and
then
let
the
young
people
do
something
else,
but
just
curious
if
there's
a
chance
for
getting
more
either
irrigation.
AA
Or
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
that
was
really
heavy
lifting
and
at
the
time
we
were
told
that
they,
the
young
people,
felt
like
picking
up
trash
was
that
they.
That
was
almost
an
insult.
So
I
loved
hearing
the
part
about
data
collection
and
measuring
how
much
you
collect
and
seeing
it
as
as
a
positive
contribution,
not
the
bottom
rung
of
the
ladder.
AA
Let
me
see,
I
had
one
other
thing.
I
thought
I
wanted
to
say.
AA
B
I
speak
on
the
the
trash
thing
so
when
it
comes
to
like
those,
I
guess
like
people,
might
consider
like
bottom
tier
things,
especially
like
members
coming
in
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
I've
taken
away.
Is
that
as
a
member
is
that
they
address
the?
Why,
like,
when
we're
picking
up
trash,
they
explain
like
this
trash.
These
cigarette
butts
they
get
into
our
water
system
and
they
ruin
our
water
systems,
and
this,
like
plays
in
the
your
drinking
water,
that
you
use
every
day,
which
you
know
takes
that
to
another
level.
B
It's
not.
It
becomes
more
than
just
we're,
picking
up
trash
just
to
pick
up
trash
or
we're
watering
trees
just
to
water
trees.
They
explain
why
these
trees
need
so
much
water.
Why
newer
trees
need
a
certain
amount
of
water,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
in
there
just.
J
M
Water,
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
ali's
point,
so
we
we
again,
we
always
coined
it
as
aesthetic
maintenance.
You
know
as
just
a
form
of
critical
maintenance
at
our
green
infrastructure
facilities,
so
it
wasn't
just
picking
up
trash,
but
even
in
doing
that,
we
also
made
it
very
clear,
is
ali's
saying
that
you
know
the
effect
on
the
the
system.
So
you
know
we'd
say
if
this
trash
is
upstream
of
an
inlet
you're
preventing
it
from
getting
into
the
system.
So
you
know
concepts
such
as
drainage
area.
M
You
know
were
introduced,
so
you
know
you
could
see
really
the
impacts
of
some
of
these
activities
near
site,
not
just
in
the
site
itself
and
speaking
to
your
point
about
water
and
water
access.
M
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
for
our
contractors
and
for
powercore
we
initiate
hydrant
use
permits
so
and
along
with
that,
permit
they're,
mandatory
training
so
and
that's
another
thing,
that's
great
because
the
power
crews
they
get
training
on
the
op
safe
operation
of
of
our
hydrants,
and
you
know
I
guess-
and
this
is
something
to
do-
that's
that
speaks
to
the
nature
of
the
partnership
and
the
collaboration
with
water
and
and
power
core.
M
But
you
know
over
time
you
know
I
remember
there
were
days
where
power
core,
they
were
doing
maintenance
out
of
a
a
cargo
van.
You
know
and
that's
that's
what
was
available
right
so
then
it
moved
into
like
okay.
Now,
let's,
if
you
got
some
trucks
now,
let's
get
you
guy
a
trailer.
So
in
the
beginning
you
know
that's
some
of
the
things
you
have
to
think
through
I
mean
sometimes
you
know
those
are
the
resources
available.
You
know,
I
think
power,
I'm
not
sure
julia.
M
It
may
have
been
a
van
that
was
left
over
from
you
know
some
other
department's
old
van
you
guys
took
advantage
of,
but
you
know
with
that
planning
it
transitioned
into
all
right.
Let's
get
you
guys,
a
pickup
truck
with
all
all-wheel
drive
and
you
know
the
ability
to
purchase
trailers
right
so
and
tanks
for
watering
so
that
that's.
M
Of
it
working
through
the
logistics-
and
it
is
something
that
you
can
phase
in
right,
but
it
should
be
considered
for
sure.
A
E
E
Just
a
minute,
pat,
but
I'll,
get
you
in
one.
Second,
I
just
want
to
be
mindful
of
the
time
it's
been
about
two
and
a
half
hours,
and
everyone
has
been
so
generous
with
your
time.
So
I
do
want
us
to
begin
wrapping
this
up.
But
pat,
if
you
had
a
brief
comment
on
that.
U
Yeah,
no,
I
just
want
to
reiterate,
because
I
think
this
is
so
critical
number
one
is
that
the
problem
I've
had
with
the
blue
shirts
program.
No
criticism
meant,
but-
and
I
don't
know
how
it
works
this
year,
but
in
years
past
the
red
shirts,
it
can't
be
just
about
picking
up
trash.
There
have
to
be
other
things
that
they're
engaged
in
and
even
if
it's
picking
up
trash,
if
there's,
if
there
is
time
spent
processing,
why
are
we
doing
this?
U
What
is
it
how
you
know
everything
everyone
just
said
about
how
it's
benefiting
the
community?
What
problems
does
it
cost?
Where
do
the?
Where
does
this
trash
on
the
storm
drain
end
up
in
the
river
and
all
of
that
kids?
Youth
really
get
serious
about
it,
and
we've
had
youth
at
the
end
of
the
summer,
they're
making
their
parents
recycle
they're
yelling
at
their
friends
for
dropping
stuff
on
the
ground.
So
it's
not
just
a
job.
It
becomes
something
they're
committed
to
and
passionate
about,
so
that
educational
piece
has
to
be
there.
E
Appreciate
those
comments,
thank
you.
Kent
we're
gonna,
go
to
you
again
and
then
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised
again.
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
everyone's
extraordinary
generosity
with
their
time,
so
if
we
can
wrap
it
up
after
kent,
that
would
be
great,
but.
T
T
T
This
has
to
be
about
the
individual
in
transforming
them
not
saying
they're
bad,
where
they're
coming
from,
but
transforming
them
into
an
individual.
Who
is
work
ready,
not
just
the
hard
skills.
It's
the
soft
skills
resume
writing
interviewing.
If
you're
going
to
be
late,
you
have
to
call
you
can't
my
opinion.
You
can't
expect
the
first
crop
quote,
unquote
to
come
out
and
say
we
want
to
fill
30
jobs
and
that
you
have
you
have
you
can
fill
those
30
jobs.
It
may
not
be
realistic.
It's
going
to
take
time.
T
T
In
that
I
want
to
really
it'll
take
time.
I've
done
this
in
the
past
with
different
organizations
more
than
workforce
development,
not
so
much,
and
I'm
not
the
education
and
exposure
in
interconnection,
more
workforce
development,
and
it
takes
time
you
get
individuals
who
may
be
the
best
worker,
but
he
doesn't
call
he's
going
to
be
late,
so
you
can
work
on
that
or
someone
who
you
know
not
the
best
worker
but
calls
when
they're
late.
T
E
Thank
you
agreed
ken.
Thank
you
well
said
not
hearing
or
seeing
any
other
hands.
Sorry,
your
hand
is
up,
but
I
assume
that's
from
earlier
perfect
yep,
no
worries
I'm
going
to
ask
before
we
get
to
kenzie
for
the
concluding
remarks
on
behalf
of
council
black
and
councillor
wu
chief
cook
or
chief
sullivan.
Did
you
have
any
sort
of
concluding
thoughts
before
we
recess
this
working
session?.
L
E
Absolutely
and
thank
you
to
commissioner
woods
as
well.
Counselor
bach,
I
know
you
you
wanted
to
you,
had
a
statement
prepared
as
well,
but
I
wanted
to
let
you
do
including
remarks
and
then
I
will
recess
this
working
herring,
which
is
a
slight
technicality
from
just
adjourning
it,
because,
as
I
imagine
you
encounter,
we
would
like
a
continued
working
session
as
we
can
do
the
work
going
forward.
So
thank
you,
counselor
bach,
for
your
leadership.
E
Obviously,
company
is
a
fervent
supporter
and
and
just
and
so
impressed
with
what
is
happening
in
in
philly
and
look
to
continue
to
replicate,
build
on
the
successes
there
and
continue
partnership,
and
I
mean
it.
I
think
that
god
willingly,
the
things
will
improve
in
our
country
in
our
world
in
the
months
ahead,
and
I
really
think
it
would
be
a
worthwhile
endeavor
to
to
go
down
visit
and
see
firsthand
some
of
the
great
success
down
there.
E
So
I
look
forward
to
it
and
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
to
work
with
us
and
share
with
us
some
of
the
great
successes,
and
thank
you,
of
course,
to
the
advocates
who
have
been
just
the
the
backbone
of
the
really
impressive
environmental
movement
here
in
boston.
So.
E
F
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
o'malley
and
yes,
I
just
really
want
to
echo
the
thanks
to
everybody.
We
really
appreciate
the
time
from
the
folks
in
philly
we
appreciate
our
own
departments,
chief
cook
and
and
commissioner
woods
and
and
john
sullivan
and
trin
for
for
being
with
us
and
for
listening
to
so
much
of
the
philadelphia
content
because,
as
has
been
addressed,
you
know
leadership
within
the
city
and
kind
of
that
sort
of
interagency
leadership
that
helps
us
work
out
those
kinks
and
really
like
bring
something
to
fruition.
F
I
mean
that's
that's
what
we're
gunning
for
here
and
so
as
a
counselor.
I'm
really
grateful
to
all
the
departments
for
their
involvement
and-
and
I
want
to
echo
and
underscore
something
that
you
know
mark
camarada
said
before
he
had
to
hop
off,
which
is
just.
I
think
we
really
see
this
in
boston
as
being
something
that
we
would
want
to
have
be
aimed
squarely
at
not
just
the
maintenance,
but
also
the
capital
project
side
of
things,
because
I
think
we
have
so
much
capital
work
to
do.
F
I
I've
talked
a
lot
about
how
there's
an
opportunity
to
expand
our
environmental
work
within
our
capital
budget,
with
some
of
these
things
that
from
urban
forestry
to
green
infrastructure,
like
there's,
really
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
scale
up
in
a
continuous
way.
They're,
not
just
one
big
project
like
we
face
when
we
talk
about
like
building
a
school
or
some
of
the
other
things
in
our
capital
projects.
F
And
I
and
I
think
that
that
piece
is
really
important.
Also
when
we
talk
about
closing
the
racial
wealth
gap.
With
a
program
like
this.
So
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
dave
queeley,
who
had
to
jump
off
before
he
could
comment
but
wanted
to
underscore.
F
Was
you
know,
and
and
counselor
braden
had
some
conversation
with
julia
about
this,
but
the
hope
that
these
power
core
folks
who
you're
training
not
only
end
up
as
city
employees
and
well-compensated
union
employees,
utility
employees
etc,
but
also
that
ultimately
they're
in
a
position
to
be
contractors
who
own
their
own
contracting
businesses
and
can
get
some
of
the
real
green
infrastructure
like
work
right.
F
The
the
sort
of
substantive
capital
work
that
we're
creating,
and
I
just
think
the
goal
here
should
be
for
the
city
to
think
about
whether
it's
through
john's,
you
know,
storm
water
fee
and
the
kind
of
regulatory
apparatus
we're
setting
up
there.
F
That's
going
to
incentivize
a
bunch
of
private
actors
to
want
to
put
in
green
infrastructure
systems
to
the
carbon
performance
standards
that
we're
talking
about
on
the
building
side
here
in
the
city
to
like
to
to
sort
of
the
urban
forestry
plan,
which,
once
you
have
an
urban
forestry
plan,
you
know
begets
the
question
of
how
are
we
going
to
execute
it
on
commissioner
woods's
side?
F
You
know
the
idea
here
is
really
to
meet
those
needs
that
the
city
is
articulating
and
sort
of
bringing
into
being
with
a
workforce
that
is
ours
that
is
bostonian.
That
you
know
is
is
led
by
our
black
and
brown
folks.
F
That
gives
opportunity
to
people
who
haven't
had
opportunity
and-
and
I
just
I
think
we
can't
stress
enough-
and
I
really
want
to
stress
on
behalf
of
myself
and
counselor
woo-
that
but
that's
the
goal
here
not
for
these
things
to
be
completely
intertwined
and
not
for
it
to
just
be,
like
you
know,
a
a
good
environmental
program
that
maybe
could
like
help
with
the
racial
wealth
gap
and
and
racial
inequity
in
the
city
on
the
side
or
just
an
economic
program
that
maybe
will
do
like
a
few
kind
of
green
things
on
the
edge
right.
F
The
goal
is
to
say
we
have
two
major
crises
that
require
urgency,
that
the
city
is
facing
and
there's
an
opportunity
to
to
have
an
intertwined
answer
to
them.
So
we
are
definitely
going
to
keep
working
on
this
in
earnest
and
we're
really
grateful
for
all
of
your
partnership
certainly
would
love
to
visit
philadelphia.
F
E
Here
here
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership,
counselor
bach,
the
working
session
of
the
committee
of
environment,
sustainability
and
parks
is
hereby
recessed
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
the
work,
and
you
will
all
be
hearing
from
us
in
short
order.
So
thank
you.
Everybody
have
a
great
day.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Thank
you.