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From YouTube: Committee on Education on February 27, 2018
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Docket #0164 - Hearing regarding fiscal year 2018 Boston Public Schools Transportation Budget
A
Like
school
transportation,
budget
docket
number
zero
one
six
four
good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
Boston
City
Hall
in
the
Boston
City
Council
Chambers.
My
name
is
Anna
Faris
I
be
George
councilor
at
large
and
chair
of
the
Committee
on
education,
I'd
like
to
remind
everyone
that
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
broadcast,
live
on
Comcast,
eight
RCN,
82
and
Verizon
1964
I.
Ask
that
you
please
turn
off
your
cell
phones
and
anything
else
that
makes
noise.
A
This
hearing
for
docket
number
zero
164
regarding
the
fiscal
year
2018
bps
transportation
budget
I
ask
everyone
to
please
sign
in
and
indicate
whether
you'd
like
to
speak
following
the
panels.
We
are
being
joined
today
by
councillor
Michelle,
Wu
I'm,
sorry,
in
order
of
arrival
councillor
Michael
Flaherty
councillor
Michelle
Wu,
councillor,
Lydia,
Lydia,
Edwards,
councillor,
fake
Frank,
Baker
and
councillor
Matt
O'malley.
A
During
the
fiscal
year
17
Boston
Public
School
budget
process.
Bps
transportation
promised
a
savings
of
10
million
dollars
for
fiscal
year
18
through
implementation
of
efficiency
strategies.
Unfortunately,
that
that
savings
was
not
realized,
I'm,
sorry,
FY
17.
We
promise
that
savings
and
unfortunately
those
savings
were
not
realized
in
the
FY
18
transportation
budget.
Instead,
we
saw
a
cost
overrun.
A
My
hope
is
that
by
the
end
of
today's
hearing,
we
will
have
a
clearer
understanding
of
the
current
school
year
spending
and
to
date
so
that
we
have
a
more
accurate
picture
of
the
transportation
budget
for
the
current
school
year.
The
current
fiscal
year
as
we
approach
the
FY
19
budget
season,
I
would
like
to
thank
John
Hanlin
chief
of
operations
for
joining
us,
as
well
as
Rob
cansado
chief
of
staff
of
the
superintendent
I.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
and
either.
One
of
you
would
like
to
start
great.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
our
agenda
this
afternoon
is
to
briefly
walk
through
an
overview
of
transportation.
There
is
an
awful
lot
of
complexity
in
the
transportation
services
we
provide
and
it
behooves
us
to
explain
a
lot
of
that
in
detail
to
the
City
Council.
Today.
We
also
plan
on
discussing
very
briefly
some
of
our
big
successes
for
FY
18.
Currently,
after
that,
we'll
do
an
overview
of
spending
over
time
and
transportation
before
discussing
what's
been
happening
in
FY
18
is
the
roughly
half
of
the
presentation
will
be
on
sex
setting.
Thank
you.
B
Roughly
half
of
the
presentation
will
be
contact
setting
going
over
some
overview
of
our
work,
in
addition
to
that
laying
out
some
of
our
successes
in
FY
18
and
going
over
spending
over
time
and
then
we'll
dive
into
FY
18,
both
on
the
savings
side,
but
also
on
the
side
of
cost
increases
before
discussing
next
steps
with
city
council.
Thank
you.
B
There
we
go
VPS
transportation
is
responsible
for
vastly
complex
web
of
services.
Many
of
you
are
already
aware
of
this.
We
just
wanted
to
bring
it
back
to
light
in
front
of
City
Council.
Today
the
complexity
is
due
to
a
number
of
factors:
state
laws
requiring
charter
and
parochial
school
transportation,
which
you
are
well
aware
of,
that
we
have
to
abide
by
the
sheer
volume
of
the
schools
and
students
that
we
serve
sometimes
is
much
higher
than
what
people
actually
anticipate.
B
The
fact
that
we
have
extensive
school
choice
in
Boston,
Public,
Schools,
far
more
school
choice
than
just
about
any
other
School
District
in
the
country.
That
very
fact
alone
leads
to
enormous
transportation
costs,
and
one
thing
you'll
hear
me
say
several
times
today
is
that
we're
very
proud
of
that
fact,
because,
as
you've
heard,
members
of
bps
finance
talk
about
the
BPS
transportation
spending
line
represents
our
equity
line
item.
We
believe
strongly
in
school.
B
This
table
here
shows
that
non
VPS
schools
make
up
about
half
of
all
the
schools
served
by
Boston,
Public,
Schools
transportation.
We
serve
a
hundred
and
thirty
three
bps
school
buildings
every
day
and
put
268
buildings
over
all
the
lion's
share
of
the
students
transported
on
bps
buses,
our
bps
students.
However,
as
you
can
see
here,
we
do
have
close
to
10,000
additional
students
that
are
being
transported
to
the
charter,
private
or
parochial
schools.
B
We
serve
one
other
note
here:
it
shouldn't
be
lost
in
you
that
roughly
half
of
the
buses
that
we
have
or
sorry
half
of
the
sites
we
serve
our
BPS
students,
which
means
half
of
them,
are
non
VPS
schools,
half
of
them
of
BPS
schools,
which
means
half
for
not
BPS.
Schools.
Excuse
me,
but
only
about
a
fourth
are
non
BPS
students.
What
that
means
is
that
we're
much
less
efficient
with
the
transportation
we
need
to
provide
to
students
who
go
to
school
outside
of
the
PS.
B
That's
simply
because
those
schools
tend
to
have
even
broader
array
of
choice
than
BPS
schools.
Do
that
also
means
that
we're
transporting
students
to
out
of
district
placements
for
special
education,
in
which
case
we're
oftentimes,
putting
one
or
two
students
on
a
bus
next
slide,
fewer
than
half
of
our
students
are
traditional
corner
bus,
stop
students,
it's
simply
a
myth
and
transportation
that
people
believe
that
most
students
being
given
transportation
are
going
to
bus
stops
every
day.
B
In
reality,
more
than
half
of
the
students
we
serve
in
transportation
are
not
corner
bus
stop
students,
many
of
them,
are
taking
the
MBTA
through
the
tea
passes,
we
provide
to
students
in
grades
7
through
12,
but,
as
you
can
see
here,
there
are
quite
a
few,
in
fact
about
5,000
that
are
being
picked
up
at
their
door
and
again
we'll
we'll
go
into
more
detail
on
door-to-door
transportation.
Accommodations
later
next
slide.
B
I
talked
briefly
a
few
minutes
ago
on
a
level
of
school
choice
that
we
provide
in
Boston,
Public,
Schools
and
again
we're
proud
of
this
fact.
It
should
be
noted
again
that
this
is
a
degree
of
choice
that
very
very
few
districts
across
the
entire
country
provide
to
their
families.
As
a
result,
we
have
high
transportation
costs.
The
map
that
you
have
here
is
simply
a
snapshot
of
the
students
who
receive
transportation
to
the
mario
yamada
kata.
B
But
this
is
a
result
of
that.
One
other
snapshot
that
I'll
provide
right
now.
Mike
Hughes,
who
just
retired
from
the
Department
of
Transportation
and
worked
for
the
Department
for
forty
years,
would
often
talk
about
how,
many
years
ago,
port
Norfolk
a
neighborhood
that
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
in
southeast
Dorchester
at
one
time
only
had
one
bus
serving
that
neighborhood
and
it
was
only
for
those
students
going
to
the
Murphy
school
that
needed
a
transportation
accommodation.
B
In
recent
years
there
been
more
than
20
buses
serving
the
port,
Norfolk
neighborhood,
and
those
of
you
who
aren't
aware
the
port
Norfolk
neighborhood
has
about
ten
streets
in
it,
it's
very,
very
small
and
right
now
there
are
more
than
20
buses.
We
believe
that
I
go
into
that
neighborhood
every
day
because
of
the
degree
of
school
choice.
We
provide
next
slide
to
manage
the
complexity
and
control
costs
we
route
each
year,
our
buses
multiple
times
per
day
and
I,
know
that
many
of
you
are
aware
of
this.
B
This
comes
back
to
the
start
times
conversation
that
came
up
in
the
fall
and
into
the
winter,
but
it's
for
this
reason
that
we're
not
able
to
start
all
of
our
schools.
Let's
say
8:30
in
the
morning,
as
you
can
see
here
at
the
math,
we
provided
our
buses
run
approximately
1500
trips.
Every
morning,
600
buses
perform
those
trips.
That
means
that,
on
average,
our
buses
make
about
two-and-a-half
trips
every
morning.
They
make
about
another
two
and
a
half
trips
every
afternoon.
B
B
You
know
why
do
we
see
such
a
small
number
of
students
on
the
buses
every
day
in
reality,
you're
never
going
to
see
a
bus,
that's
full
unless
you
happen
to
catch
that
bus
after
it's
picked
up
its
last
students
and
before
it
gets
to
the
school,
that's
a
small
portion
of
the
day
every
single
morning
and
afternoon,
on
average,
we
did
some
analysis
on
this.
We
chose
I,
think
about
10
or
12
buses
that
are
full.
They
are
full
to
capacity
by
the
time
they
get
to
their
school.
B
B
Know
one
thing
that's
been
discussed
before
the
City
Council
is
an
opportunity
per
to
provide
some
more
context
to
the
council
on
some
of
these
notes
that
I've
just
mentioned
it
is
very
complex
and
we've
only
just
scraped
a
surface
of
it
just
now.
We
would
like
that
opportunity
to
come
back
and
give
you
all
a
briefing
to
really
dive
deeper
into
transportation,
so
you
can
understand
more
the
complexity
that
drives
our
work
everyday.
B
B
Significant
route,
reductions
and
increasing
opt
outs
have
been
major
highlights
for
this
year.
Many
of
you
are
aware
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
with
them:
a
team
from
MIT
through
the
groundbreaking
transportation
challenge
we
launched
last
April
a
first-of-its-kind
event
which
allowed
us
to
work
hand-in-hand
with
a
team
of
thought
leaders
in
the
world
of
optimization
at
MIT,
who
has
done
wonders
for
our
work
in
transportation.
B
B
However,
although
we
often
talk
about
Ruger
duck
shion's
and
the
fact
that
that
reduction
of
50
buses
was
the
largest
we've
ever
had,
one
thing
that
has
not
gotten
a
lot
of
airplay
per
se
is
the
number
of
opto
that
we've
had
during
the
year.
We've
heard
firsthand
from
many
of
you,
our
counselors,
that
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
trying
to
convince
families
who
are
never
riding
the
bus
to
stop
signing
up
for
the
bus
as
it
were.
B
We
launched
a
very
sophisticated
opt-out
campaign
last
spring,
where
we
had
a
phone
call
center
set
up
over
the
course
of
two
months
last
summer
and
we
called
families
day
after
day,
and
these
are
families
we
knew
from
transportation
data
at
the
school
level.
We're
not
riding
the
bus,
we're
not
allowed
to
simply
stop
going
to
their
bus
stop
unless
we
have
confirmation
from
the
family
that
they're
no
longer
going
to
avail
themselves
of
the
bus.
So
forgive
me
for
getting
into
the
weeds
if
we
know
that
Rob
can
solve.
B
B
We
did
that
over
the
course
of
a
couple
months
last
summer
and
then
again
over
a
few
months
in
the
fall
this
year
and
as
a
result,
we
were
able
to
find
2,200
additional
students
who
opted
out
of
transportation,
which
is
double
the
number
that
we
had
last
year
and
three
times
the
number
that
we
had
the
year
before,
which
again
is
very,
very
impressive.
That
said,
there's
still
more
work
to
be
done
there
that
we
still
know
that
for
every
for
every
two
families
we
called
there
was
one
family.
B
That
said
no
I
still
want
that
bus
and
they
can't
opt
back
in
and
that's
something
that
we
would
love
your
assistance
with.
So
people
in
the
general
public
know
that
if
they
opt
out,
they
can't
always
opt
back
in
and
we'll
be
able
to
get
them
back
on
a
bus
within
a
week's
time
and
probably
shorter
than
that.
But
some
families
were
reluctant
to
opt
out,
so
we're
gonna
continue
doing
that
work
in
the
hope
of
finding
more
opt
outs
in
the
future.
B
We
have
not
yet
seen
the
fruits
of
that
work,
but
we
hope
to
in
the
years
to
come.
The
last
bolt
that
we
have
on
this
slide
speaks
to
our
level
of
service,
as
has
been
reported
before
our
on-time
percentage
rate.
This
year
has
been
slightly
better
than
last
year
and
on
par
with
previous
years.
We're
proud
of
this
fact.
B
B
The
next
slide
slide
10
gives
a
graphical
depiction
of
the
opt
outs
and
reductions
and
what
it's
done
for
us
in
terms
of
our
numbers.
As
you
can
see
over
time
in
this
chart,
you
see
the
numbers
of
both
routed
bus
riders
and
routed
buses
from
FY
12
to
FY
18.
As
you
can
see,
the
number
of
buses
increased
fairly
steadily
through
FY
14.
B
It
dropped
quite
a
bit
after
that
because
of
the
introduction
of
the
MBTA
service
for
students
in
grades
seven
and
eight,
but
it
stayed
relatively
flat
after
that
and
they
fly
16
FY
17
and
then
dropped
by
50
going
into
this
year
from
646
at
the
start
of
last
year
to
596
at
the
start
of
this
year.
Concurrently,
we
also
dropped
the
number
of
bus
riders
due
in
large
part
to
our
work,
around
opt
outs,
but
also
we're
seeing
that
home-based
assignment
is
gradually
bringing
students
closer
to
home
next
slide.
B
We'll
now
talk
briefly
about
our
patterns
and
spending
over
time,
which
will
leave
us
with
a
summary
of
FY
18
spending
and
FY
18
spending
to
date.
Good
this
chart
here
clearly
shows
that
our
transportation
costs
grew
rapidly
through
FY
14,
but,
as
you
can
see,
we've
actually
done
a
very
good
job
of
late.
Controlling
those
costs
and
I
know.
B
There
are
certain
reasons
why
we're
here,
because
it's
perceived
that
we're
not
doing
a
good
job
controlling
costs
per
se,
but
I
think
this
slide
might
argue
slightly
to
the
contrary
and
prior
years,
our
growth
rate
and
the
growth
rate
year
over
year
for
our
costs
is
at
the
bottom
of
this
graph.
Our
growth
in
costs
were
over
9%
year-to-year
and
in
the
transition
from
FY
13
to
FY
14.
B
They
jumped
by
22%
just
a
quick
explanation
of
that
enormous
growth
in
that
one
year,
the
years
prior
to
that
were
years
in
which
we
had
a
contract
that
was
governed
by
a
spending
cap.
The
vendor,
who
operated
our
transportation
system
at
that
time,
took
a
financial
loss
year
after
year
because
of
that
spending
cap.
B
The
next
slide
slide
13
is
where
we
introduce
FY
18
spending,
so
FY
18
continues
the
trend
of
slower
cost
growth,
but
unfortunately
do
anticipate
a
deficit,
as
you
can
see
here,
our
budget
for
FY
18
and
that's
the
blue
bar
and
the
far
right
was
a
hundred
and
sixteen
million
our
projection.
Right
now
is
that
spending
will
hit
a
hundred
and
twenty
three
million
dollars,
which
will
be
a
three
point.
B
One
percent
cost
growth
over
last
year,
which
is
the
smallest
cost
growth
that
we've
had
since
FY,
15
and
otherwise,
one
of
the
smaller
ones
that
you
have
on
this
graph,
still
something
we
want
to
work
toward
improving,
obviously,
next
slide
slide.
14
provides
a
breakdown
of
our
current
transportation
spending
again
this
is
FY
18,
we'll
talk
about
this
later,
but
one
thing
I
want
to
call
to
your
attention
is
the
the
charts
on
the
left-hand
side
of
this
of
this
page.
B
The
far
left
is
our
percentage
of
transported
students
and
the
chart
to
the
right
of
that
is
a
percentage
of
total
costs,
and
one
thing
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
is
11%
of
our
transported.
Students
currently
are
students
who
are
receiving
door-to-door
service.
That's
that
light
orange
color
11%.
B
Similarly,
if
you
look
at
the
light
blue,
you
can
hardly
see
it
in
the
far
left
graph
that
light
blue
represents
students
who
are
placed
in
special
education
facilities
outside
of
the
school
district.
Again,
it's
almost
a
negligible
amount.
It's
166
students
this
year,
but
that
actually
amounts
to
8%
of
our
total
costs
and
again
we'll
talk
through
this
a
little
bit
later.
But
it's
very
important
to
know
when
looking
at
our
spending
patterns
and
transportation,
you
need
to
know
what's
going
on
in
special
education
and
school
choice.
B
B
As
was
noted
a
minute
ago,
we
are
expecting
to
see
a
deficit
this
year,
but
like
last
year,
that
does
not
mean
that
we
did
not
achieve
savings.
That
does
not
mean
that
when
we
took
50
buses
off
the
road,
we
did
not
save
money,
that's
untrue!
Actually,
we
did
save
my
name.
We
saved
quite
a
bit
by
taking
50
buses
off
the
road.
This
year
we
expected
that
we
saved
about
four
and
a
quarter
million
dollars
in
transportation
costs
this
year
as
of
the
beginning
of
the
school
year.
B
That's
because
each
bus
on
average,
when
you're
looking
at
the
near-term
variable
costs
costs
about
eighty-five
thousand
dollars
in
savings.
Okay,
they
cost
more
than
that
when
you
roll
in
all
the
fixed
costs
which
are
bus,
yards
maintenance,
depreciation,
other
factors,
but
each
bus
itself.
When
you
take
it
off
the
road,
you
should
expect
to
save
about
eighty-five
thousand
dollars,
most
of
that
comes
from
driver
wages
and
benefits.
But
in
addition
to
that,
you
also
have
fuel
by
taking
50
buses
off
the
road.
B
We
expected
that
we
should
have
saved
about
four
and
a
quarter
million
dollars
from
that
which
we
do
believe
that
we
did
save
in
a
future
when
rolling
in
some
of
those
other
fixed
costs,
but
not
all,
and
these
are
items
like
depreciation
and
maintenance.
We
would
have
expected
to
see
another
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
that
initiative,
but,
just
through
this
year
alone,
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
year,
we
would
have
saved
four
and
a
quarter
million
dollars
from
route
reductions
alone.
B
Unfortunately,
though,
this
deficit
did
not
clearly
come
from
only
hitting
cost
savings
which
were
significant
in
route
reductions.
Unfortunately,
we
had
several
cost
increases
that
we're
going
to
detail
for
you
today,
the
first
category
that
we've
outlined
here,
our
driver
or
contract
lidded
costs
that
have
increased
the
first
category
of
that
is
exception
time.
There's
a
footnote
at
the
bottom
of
that
exception.
Time
is
simply
the
amount
of
time
that
a
driver
spends
behind
the
bus
that
has
not
been
designated
within
that
route.
B
So,
for
example,
if
you
are
a
driver
and
you
have
a
one-hour
long
route
and
you
come
back
after
an
hour
in
20
minutes,
you
will
then
file
for
20
minutes
of
what's
called
exception
time.
Sometimes
that
happens
because
of
traffic.
Sometimes
that
happens
because
there
may
have
been
a
route
problem
other
times.
B
I
want
to
note
right
now
that
we've
worked
very
closely
with
Transdev
our
bus
vendor
on
this
category
over
the
last
few
months,
we're
starting
to
see
that
decline
rather
sharply
so
as
to
give
us
more
of
a
positive
outlook
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We're
asking
them
to
work
more
closely
with
our
drivers
to
make
sure
that
they
are
not
idling,
where
they
shouldn't
be
idling,
that
they
are
not
driving
routes.
The
way
that
they're
not
designated
to
be
driven
so
that
we
can
control
those
costs.
B
Last
year
we
had
16.4%
a
16.4%
standby
rate,
which
meant
you
look
at
the
number
of
routed
buses
that
you
have
in
a
given
year
and
you
apply
a
percentage
to
that
and
that
will
then
give
you
the
number
of
additional
drivers.
You
need
to
be
that
backup
service
that
we
do
need.
Every
day.
Last
year
we
went
into
the
year
with
a
16.4%
standby
rate.
This
year
we
knowingly
went
into
the
year
with
a
20%
standby
rate.
B
That's
simply
because
we
knew
that
we
were
doing
something
different
this
year
we
knew
that
we
were
taking
50
buses
off
the
road.
We
were
trying
something
that
hadn't
been
fully
tested
in
the
eyes
of
the
public.
We
were
working
very
closely
with
the
MIT
team.
We
were
launching
some
other
innovations.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
some
extra
precautions
in
place
so
that
the
level
of
service
did
not
suffer
because
of
those
innovations.
B
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide
to
last
categories
that
our
driver
or
contract
related,
one
is
administrative
leave
with
pay
currently
35
out
of
750
bus
drivers
are
suspended
with
pay.
These
costs
are
34%
higher
when
compared
to
the
same
time
last
year
on
one
hand,
that's
negative,
because
we
have
a
large
number
of
drivers
that
are
not
driving
right
now,
but
are
being
paid.
On
the
other
hand,
that's
positive
because
we're
working
very
closely
with
Transdev
to
make
sure
that
discipline
is
being
handed
out
where
it
needs
to
be
in
the
past.
B
Lastly,
by
making
route
reductions
this
year,
we
allowed
for
additional
severance
--is
to
drivers
so
as
not
to
layoff
drivers
and
so
as
to
continue
to
have
strong
working
relations
with
that
Union.
As
a
result
of
that,
we
had
12
additional
severance
azhagi
van
out.
This
was
all
detailed
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
when
that
conversation
was
a
relevant
topic
that
led
to
a
cost
increase
of
220,000.
B
The
next
category
that
I'll
outline
few
was
related
to
traffic
and
other
factors.
Those
of
us
who
drive
around
the
city
of
Boston
on
a
daily
basis,
I
think
we
all
knew
intuitively
this
year.
That
traffic
was
worse,
we've
seen
various
studies
that
have
in
fact
confirmed
that
and
in
fact,
depending
on
the
source
that
you
look
at
and
the
Boston
Globe
ran
a
study
on
this.
A
few
months
ago,
traffic
has
increased
anywhere
from
one
to
three
point:
four
percent
this
year.
This
has
an
outsize
effect
on
transportation.
B
Service
has
even
a
1%
increase
in
traffic,
can
decrease
our
on-time
performance
by
two
percent.
Part
of
the
reason
for
that
just
to
explain
it
a
little
bit
is,
if
you
remember,
our
buses
served
multiple
schools
if
there's
a
slow
traffic
in
the
first
leg
for
a
certain
bus,
and
that
slows
that
bus
down
from
getting
to
its
first
school
on
time,
well,
there's
a
very
good
chance
that
that
bus
is
now
going
to
show
up
late
at
its
second
and
third
school
as
well.
B
Obviously,
at
a
certain
point,
we
can't
allow
for
that
and
we
try
to
fix
those
problems
where
they
arise.
That
then
means
adding
buses
into
the
fleet,
so
we've
started
this
year
with
596
routes
or
buses
we've
since
added
12
buses
or
twelve
routes
to
the
system
in
order
to
mitigate
against
some
of
the
challenges
caused
by
traffic.
This,
as
I
mentioned
before,
is
also
a
factor,
in
the
exception
time
increase.
Quite
frankly,
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
monitor
very
closely.
B
B
Other
factors
should
also
be
spelled
out
here.
They
they
result
I'm,
sorry,
they
consist
of
parts
procurement
from
Transdev
facilities,
costs
which
are
typically
weather
related
and
fuel
costs
which
have
outpaced
our
budget
to
date.
These
other
factors
alone
led
to
a
1.3
million
dollar
increase
in
spending.
B
Next,
our
next
category
goes
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
variability
of
costs
by
writer
type.
This
table
here
very
clearly
shows
the
differences
and
average
costs
based
on
the
type
of
writer
that
you
are.
If
you
ara
bps
corner
student,
that
means
that
you
are
a
student
being
picked
up
typically
at
a
street
corner
to
be
driven
to
school.
On
average
you're
going
to
cost
us
a
little
less
than
three
thousand
dollars
last
year.
B
It
was
a
little
less
than
that
for
a
bps
door-to-door,
so
these
are
students
who
attend
bps
schools
and
are
given
an
accommodation
to
be
picked
up
at
their
front
door.
Those
students
typically
cost
us
a
little
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars
on
average
for
charter
students,
and
these
are
all
charter
students
sort
of
meshed.
Together
we
have
about
five
thousand
of
them
this
year
and
they
cost
us
a
little
more
than
three
thousand
dollars
per
student
again
more
than
bps
student.
B
B
That
means
we
can't
take
other
time
to
pick
up
other
students
and,
quite
frankly,
we
don't
have
many
other
students
going
to
that
site
anyhow
as
a
results
you're
not
able
to
reuse
that
bus
day
after
day.
So
in
many
cases
you
have
students
who
are
given
a
bus
to
school
and
they
are
the
only
student
riding
that
bus
every
morning
and
every
afternoon
the
last
category
that
we
have
on
here
is
private
school
or
parochial
school
students.
On
average
they
cost
us
a
little
more
than
6500
dollars.
B
This
next
slide
here
again
talks
a
little
bit
about
the
growth
in
the
more
expensive
writer
types
that
we
serve
in
Boston
Public
Schools.
As
you
can
see,
the
red
line
represents
the
times
and
our
buses
stop
every
day,
just
to
be
very
clear.
You'll
see
a
similar
slide
in
a
second.
This
is
not
the
number
of
bus
stops
that
we
have
in
the
system.
This
is
the
number
of
times
a
bus
stops
at
a
bus.
B
Stop
the
reason
why
there's
a
distinction
there
is,
you
might
have
a
bus,
stop
that,
let's
say
Westville
and
Geneva
in
Dorchester
that
bus
stop
might
serve
three
different
schools
throughout
the
day
that
counts
as
one
bus
stop
in
the
system,
but
it
counts
as
three
times
that
a
bus
stops
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
distinction
known
right
from
the
beginning.
So
again,
the
red
line
shows
that
the
number
of
times
our
buses
stops
has
been
relatively
consistent
year
of
a
year
from
FY
12
up
until
FY
18.
B
However,
the
number
of
riders
has
decreased
sharply
over
that
time
and
fundamentally,
the
the
main
reason
why
the
number
of
riders
has
dropped
is
because
the
growth
in
our
corner
bus
students
has
dropped,
but
unfortunately,
as
you
can
see
on
the
far
right,
where
we
have
the
growth
rates
of
the
other
categories,
those
other
categories
which
do
cost
more
than
bps
corner
students,
those
have
increased
and,
in
some
cases,
increased
quite
a
bit
charter.
Student
growth
has
been
seven
and
a
half
percent.
Over
that
time.
B
The
next
slide
is
a
little
simpler
and
puts
another
puts
this
into
a
slightly
different
context.
So
here
you
have.
The
total
number
of
bus
stops
over
time
and
again.
This
is
the
times
of
bus
stops
and
it's
been
relatively
steady
at
around
10,000
for
the
last
several
years,
but,
as
you
can
see
in
2012,
when
we
had
11,000
stops
in
our
system,
only
3500
times
was
a
bus
stopping
for
a
door-to-door
student
versus
7500
for
a
corner
student.
This
is
the
first
year
that
we've
actually
seen
those
two
categories,
even
with
each
other.
B
Roughly
5,000.
A
piece
and
I
should
know
that
the
growth
that
you're,
seeing
in
these
slides
in
door-to-door
transportation
does
not
include
the
door-to-door
students
whom
we
opted
out
of
transportation
going
into
the
school
year,
knowing
the
different
costs
of
different
riders.
We
reached
out
to
families
with
door-to-door
students.
First,
when
we
had
that
call
center
set
up
to
ask
people
about
opting
out
of
transportation,
we
knew
two
things.
We
knew
a
that.
We
were
only
calling
families
whose
students
were
never
riding
the
bus
anyway
and
B.
B
We
know
of
many
families
in
the
district
who
have
students
receiving
special
education
services
who
prefer
to
drive
their
students
themselves,
so
we
started
with
those
students.
In
reality,
the
number
of
students
receiving
door-to-door
accommodations
actually
grew
by
about
460
this
year.
However,
in
the
transportation
world,
they
only
grew
by
about
300,
because
roughly
a
hundred
and
sixty
of
them
opted
out
of
transportation
through
the
efforts
we
had
in
our
opt-out
campaign.
B
The
next
slide
also
speaks
to
some
of
our
cost
growth,
that's
happening
as
a
result
of
special
education
services.
Many
of
you
are
familiar,
I'm,
sure
or
remember
quite
well,
the
story
that
came
up
last
year,
which
led
to
many
requests
for
bus
monitors
and
every
bus.
We
talked
about
how
that
would
be
cost
prohibitive.
B
To
do
that,
however,
we
are
seeing
a
sharp
increase
in
bus
monitors
year
over
year
as
a
result
of
that
as
a
means
of
addressing
some
of
those
concerns,
also
as
a
means
of
addressing
our
increases
in
door
to
door
transportation,
and
so
you
can
see.
Two
years
ago
we
had
404
teen
bus
monitors
in
the
system
as
of
right.
B
Now,
this
year
we
have
five
hundred
and
three
and
guru
by
twenty
six
last
year
and
the
amount
in
the
bus
monitor
budget
increased
by
another
million
dollars
from
last
year
this
year,
because
of
that
increase
in
bus
monitors
and
again,
this
is
not
to
bemoan
that
spending.
This
is
to
say
this
is
something
that
we
are
required
to
do
as
a
school
district.
This
is
something
that
we're
proud
of
doing
to
keep
our
students
safe,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
keep
doing
until
something
else
changes.
B
B
It
also
talks
about
the
cost
increases
that
we've
laid
up
before,
but
it
says
simply
it's
a
simple
way
to
crosswalk,
where
we
were
last
year
to
where
we're
going
to
be
this
year
as
of
right
now
and
as
you
can
see
on
the
far
left
when
you
factor
in
our
FY
17
spending,
plus
our
required
cost
increases
for
this
year
that
were
already
part
of
FY
18
budgeting.
We
had
about
a
hundred
and
twenty-one
million
dollars
or
so
and
projected
spending.
B
Those
red
bars
then
graphically
show
the
cost
increases
that
are
reported
to
you
in
the
previous
slides
from
driver,
a
contract
related
costs
to
traffic,
the
other
factors
that
increases
in
door-to-door
and
private
special
education
services
and
bus
monitors,
and
that
leads
to
our
current
projection
of
spending
of
123
million
dollars.
I
want
to
be
very,
very
clear
that
we
are
still
doing
things
every
day,
both
internally
at
Boston,
Public,
Schools
and
with
Transdev
our
bus
contractor
to
control
costs
as
much
as
possible.
B
B
I'll
end
the
presentation
and
certainly
open
up
to
questions
talking
very
briefly
about
some
next
steps.
That's
the
last
slide
in
the
presentation.
Over
the
next
year,
we
plan
to
continue
working
to
reduce
the
number
of
rude
students
who
never
ride
the
bus.
So
again
we're
going
to
continue
the
opt-out
campaign
that
we've
had
that
has
been
relatively
successful
to
date.
B
We'll
continue
to
work
to
reduce
the
number
of
bus
stops
in
the
system,
we'll
even
continue
to
work
to
reduce
the
number
of
routes,
as
we
did
this
prior
year
will
continue
resumed
our
efforts
to
engage
the
community
on
adjusting
school
start
times,
as
mentioned
before
adjusting
school
start
times,
has
a
significant
implication
on
transportation.
Spending
we'll
continue
to
explore
some
schools
sharing,
drop-offs
and
pickups,
which
is
an
innovative
idea.
B
We're
trying
at
this
here
are
two
schools
in
East
Boston,
we'll
see
if
there's
more
potential
for
that
in
the
future,
we'll
also
ensure
that
door
accommodations
as
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago,
are
consistently
assigned,
while
also
increased
number
of
options
available
for
those
students.
This
is
again
seeing
growth
in
that
accommodated.
Corner
concept
that
we
talked
about
earlier
and
lastly,
on
the
innovation
and
partnerships
side
of
things,
we'll
continue
to
partner
with
out
of
district
schools
to
reduce
transportation
costs
for
out
of
district
placements,
if
at
all
possible.
B
One
scenario
for
this
could
be
partnering
with
other
districts
to
cost
share
if
you
will
so
that
we
can
reduce.
Some
of
those
costs
will
also
continue
working
with
MIT
and
other
thought
leaders
to
ensure
that
we're
always
optimizing
our
bus
service
every
day,
as
we
have
this
past
year
again.
The
transportation
challenge
that
we
launched
not
yet
a
year
ago
was
a
huge
success
for
the
school
district
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
first
of
its
kind
for
school
districts
across
the
country.
B
We
hope
to
leverage
that
type
of
work
even
more
in
the
future,
to
continue
to
see
some
great
benefits
from
thought.
Leaders
like
the
students
at
MIT,
but
many
many
others
out
there
in
the
country
as
well
with
that
I'll
close
the
presentation,
but
certainly
open
up
to
your
questions.
Both
chief
of
staff
can
solve.
Oh
and
I
will
be
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
If
there
are
any
things
that
we
cannot
answer,
we'll
do
our
best
to
get
that
information
back
to
you
in
due
time.
Okay,.
A
Thank
You
mr.
Hamlin,
and
thank
you
both
for
being
here
I
want
to
recognize.
We
were
joined
during
your
presentation
by
Councillor
CMO
kind
of
suppress,
lay
in
counselor
Zakim
I.
Just
have
one
two
quick
comment
and
a
question
and
then
I'll
allow
my
colleagues
to
ask
their
questions.
I
am
having
a
difficult
time,
and
this
is
my
problem,
but
I
want
to
state
it
for
the
record.
I,
don't
understand
how
we
realize
savings,
but
still
increase
in
spending.
A
C
C
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
a
congrats
on
the
opt-out
piece
of
that
and
just
ask
the
D
continue
to
to
double-down
efforts.
There
I
think
for
McCauley
Council
in
Tsavo
can
attest
I
started
talking
about
our
pilots
back
when
my
kids
went
to
the
Murphy
school
and
saw
a
huge
cost
savings
in
that,
and
so
it's
happy
to
see
that
opt
outs
are
starting
to
produce
results
and
just
continue
to
keep
your
eye
on
the
ball.
With
respect
to
that
and
then
a
question
on
the
door
to
do.
B
It
means
that
the
schools
like
the
Joseph
Lee
school
in
Dorchester,
that
serves
large
numbers
of
students
with
autism
are
doing
a
great
job
for
that
community
and
we're
seeing
that
increase
in
our
enrollment
students
with
autism
and
other
students
with
significant
cognitive
or
physical
disabilities
are
often
times
given
door-to-door
accommodations
students
that
receive
what
sometimes
refer
to
an
education
parlance
as
pullout
interventions.
Those
are
students
who
are
pulled
into
a
resource
room
once
or
twice
a
week.
B
B
So
it's
a
very
good
question
I'd
like
to
confirm
this
after
the
fact.
But
my
sense
of
that
is
that
ten
and
fourteen
represented
the
first
years
for
the
new
contractor,
which
sometimes
lead
to
higher
costs
in
year,
one
of
the
vendor
coming
in
and
then
the
cost
stabilizer
or
reduce
somewhat
after
the
food.
D
And
then
the
last
question,
just
around
fuel
maintenance
and
repair
really
specific,
around
I,
guess
the
maintenance
and
repair.
Several
years
ago,
I
I
had
discovered
that
we
were
sending
our
buses
up
to
New
Hampshire
to
be
repaired.
So
is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
those
contracts
so
who
we
vending
or
our
vendors,
who
we
contracting,
whether
they
are
they
local
mechanics
of
a
local,
auto
body
shop,
so
they
local.
D
B
You
don't
mind:
counselor
flatty,
we'll
get
back
to
that
information,
but
just
to
clarify
my
sense
is
if
we
are
going
out
of
state
for
those
contracts.
That
is
because
of
costs.
Am
I
hearing
the
requests
correctly,
though,
that
if
there's
a
vendor
locally
that
can
give
us
that
same
cost
or
a
lower
cost,
and
clearly
we
should
pursue
that
right.
If
it's
a
local
vendor
that
it's
a
higher
cost,
then
it
becomes
maybe
a
tough
decision
that
we
would
need
to
make.
That's.
D
Correct
and
this
council
has
done
a
lot
of
work
through
the
efforts
of
our
colleague,
city
council,
Michele,
Wu
and
others
to
make
sure
around
vending
and
around
contracts
that
you
know
we're
spreading
around
the
infield
with
respect
to
our
residents.
You
know
people
coloring
women,
veteran
businesses,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
the
lead
on
that
as
well
through
the
bps
great.
Thank
you
John.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
You
and
I
first
want
to
just
really
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
incredibly
detailed
response
to
the
questions
that
I
had
sent
over
to
the
department
around
transportation,
but
in
the
context
of
Bell
times,
I
know
it
took
your
team
a
lot
of
hours
and
having
that
information
is
extremely
helpful
and
hopefully
will
help
set
the
context
for
what
the
trade
offs
really
are,
as
the
district
continues
to
explore
that
Bell
time
conversation
this
year,
so
I
want
to
start
with
some
of
the
information
that
came
out
of
that.
E
So
it
says
there
are
currently
707
active
bus
drivers
covering
605
routes,
including
the
standby
drivers,
who
will
fill
in
when
their
absences,
and
then
it
says,
there's
an
additional
150
drivers
on
leave.
I.
Think
in
the
presentation
it
mentioned,
35
on
leave
with
pay
is
that
it
is
that
a
typical
number
I
mean
I'm
not
familiar
with
this
type
of
contract,
but
for
150
drivers
to
be
on
leave.
As
that
normal
is.
Are
there,
you
know
other
factors,
I.
B
E
So
out
of
the
hundred
50,
though
35
are
currently
being
paid,
but
the
rest
are
not
in
this
various
reasons
listed
in
here:
okay
and
then
in
the
section
describing
contract
costs
the
largest
factor,
it's
a
number
of
routes,
great
explanations
and
then
the
duration
of
trips,
which
include
a
sort
of
planned
time
for
the
route.
But
then
that
says,
there's
driver
hours
beyond
what
is
designated
for
each
route.
What
does
that
typically
mean?
That's.
B
The
exception
time
that
I
discussed
briefly
in
this
presentation
from
today
an
exception
time
can
come
up
for
a
number
of
reasons,
a
common
reason
for
exception
time,
as
if
a
driver
runs
into
significant
traffic.
Let's
say
he's
running
the
route
and
it's
the
same
route
he's
been
doing
every
day
and
all
of
a
sudden
there's
construction
along
the
way
that
has
caused
a
detour
in
other
cases,
which,
quite
frankly,
is
a
little
bit
less
common.
B
But
in
other
cases
there
might
be
drivers
who
are
idling
in
places
of
the
of
the
city
or
outside
of
the
city,
where
they
should
not
be
idling
or
they're
driving
the
route,
not
as
it's
been
designated
and
as
a
result
of
that,
it's
taking
them
longer.
They
would
then
file
for
exception
time
at
the
close
of
their
route,
which
is
time
beyond
what's
designated
and
their
route.
The
drivers
contract
privets
us
from
using
GPS
data
to
discipline
drivers
when
it
comes
to
things
like
that,
but
it's
something
that
prevents.
E
B
B
Well,
it
is
I
mean
everything
in
transportation
is
a
major
area
of
concern.
Quite
frankly,
so
it's
certainly
something
that
we
look
to
address.
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
have
it
in
the
presentation
today.
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
mentioned
how
we're
working
hand
in
hand
with
Transdev
to
try
to
mitigate
that
as
much
as
possible.
If
there
are
factors
related
to
traffic,
there's
not
as
much,
we
can
do
about
that.
B
E
And
then
so
on,
the
traffic
part
I
know
when
the
city
pilot
under
BTD
and
and
she
falls
good,
had
piloted
the
dedicated
bus
lane
on
Washington.
Yes,
just
as
the
days
that
I
was
driving
going
from
Rosendale
to
Forest
Hills,
it
felt
like
a
good
10.
Potentially
up.
You
know,
20
minutes,
shaved
off
I
think
the
average
number
was
6
minutes
or
something
but
incredible
potential
reductions
in
traffic
from
dedicated
bus
lanes.
There
are
there
other
corridors
that
you
might
have
identified
through
some
of
the
exception
time
or
other
ways.
B
Have
the
data
in
front
of
me
on
what
other
routes
we're
looking
at,
but
I
know
that
we
are
looking
at
them?
We've
been
working
hand-in-hand
with
Chris
Osgood
for
quite
frankly,
well
over
a
year
on
some
of
these
innovations.
We're
excited
about
the
rollout
of
the
dedicated
bus
lane
along
along
Washington
Street.
We
do
think
that
that's
going
to
help
things
within
transportation.
B
E
B
I
mean,
quite
frankly,
if
you
pick
any
of
the
major
roads,
the
major
neighborhood
based
roads
that
we
have
in
the
city
just
about
any
of
them
would
be
ripe
for
dedicated
bus
lane,
whether
it's
Hyde,
Park,
Ave
or
Blue,
Hill,
Ave
or
Columbia,
or
any
of
those
types
of
streets
or
roadways
across
Boston
would
be
helpful
to
have
dedicated
bus
service.
Okay,.
F
I
just
wanted
to
check
to
say.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
asking
for
that
request
on
the
information
around
start
times.
We
really
welcome
the
opportunity
to
provide
sort
of
that
level
of
detail
and
information,
so
we
can
explain
sort
of
how
just
how
complex
like
John
mentioned.
Not
only
many
areas
of
BPS
are,
but
particularly
things
like
transportation
and
what
really
goes
into
it.
F
That
was
a
publicly
posted
meeting
to
brief
councillors
and
state
elected
officials
on
the
budget
and
other
things.
We
see
this
as
a
great
opportunity.
So
chair,
asabi
George,
you
mentioned
I'm,
trying
to
learn
how
you
can
save
money
at
the
same
time
have
to
spend
more
money.
That's
in
context.
We
think
these
further
conversations
were
more
regularly.
Explaining
these
complexities
will
go
a
long
way
to
helping
address
that
and
better
improve
those
lines
of
communication.
So
we
look
forward
to
it
great.
E
Thank
you.
Could
you
explain
a
little
bit
on
more
on
the
Charter
parochial
students,
and
so
how
does
that
work?
You
know?
Does
the
district
have
to
provide
transportation,
regardless
of
what
routes
they're
asking
for?
Do
they
determine
the
number
of
buses
and
routes?
How
much
is
in
bps
is
control
and
how
much
is
the
school's
control?
You
know
start
times
routes
the
whole
thing
so.
B
B
If
we
changed
our
own
walk
to
school
distance
from
a
mile
to
two
miles
for
students
in
grades
K
through
six,
then
we
wouldn't
have
to
transport
charter
school
students
who
live
between
a
mile
and
two
miles
either,
because
we
need
to
do
the
same
for
charter
school
students
that
we
do
for
our
own
students
I'm.
Only
using
that
as
an
example.
It's
not
something
that
we're
considering
right
now,
but
whatever
we
do
within
our
own
policies
for
bps
students,
we
have
to
do
for
the
Charter
and
the
private
parochial
students.
B
Because
of
that
we
have
no
control
over
who
receives
the
transportation,
but
we
do
have
control
over
how
those
students
are
being
driven
to
school
visa
Vee
what
their
bus
routes
look
like.
So
every
year
we
work
very
closely
with
our
charter
partners
and
our
private
parochial
partners
to
get
their
enrollments
for
the
upcoming
year.
We
then
treat
those
students,
just
as
if
they
were
bps
students,
they're
all
put
into
our
transportation
database
and
then
they're
all
put
through
in
this
past
year.
B
The
MIT
solution
for
bus
routing
in
prior
years,
our
software
that
we
have
for
bus
routing
and
those
students
again
are
treated
just
like
they
are
VPS
students.
So
we
route
them.
We
try
to
route
them
as
efficiently
as
possible.
The
buses
that
serve
charter
schools
first
thing
in
the
morning
are
oftentimes
from
their
going
to
a
bps
school
after
that
and
then
potentially
another
VPS
school
after
that,
so
buses
are
not
specifically
charter
buses
versus
district
buses.
The
buses
are
all
integrated.
If
you
will
okay.
B
I'm
not
at
a
point
right
now,
where
I
can
speak
publicly
to
anything
that
we're
considering
right
now,
but
there
are
some
strategies
that,
yes,
we
we
are
contemplating.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
they
that
they
would
prove
fruitful
both
from
a
financial
perspective,
but
also
feasible
from
a
legal
perspective
within
the
constraints
of
state
law.
If
you
will
so,
yes,
we
are
considering
some
other
innovations
I'm,
just
not
at
a
point
yet
where
I
I'd
like
to
for.
F
Would
just
add,
as
we're
working
well
closely
with
the
council,
we
certainly
welcome
any
ideas
and
thoughts.
You
may
have
around
that
I've
always
said:
there's
no
such
thing
as
a
new
idea,
just
a
good
idea,
and
certainly
it's
working
through
and
we've
done,
our
team
we're
happy
to
work
together
with
any
thought
you
may
have.
G
You
again
for
your
wonderful
presentation:
it
was
incredibly
informative
and
I
know
it
took
a
lot
of
work.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
specific
some
to
my
district,
and
just
some
just
if
you
can
help
me
understand
some
of
the
the
numbers
that
are
here
in
your
presentation.
I'll
start
with
the
drivers
that
my
my
colleague,
counselor
Wu,
was
talking
about
the
35
individuals
that
are
on
administrative
leave
and
I.
Think
one
of
your
comments
was
that
is
due
in
part
to
the
delays
of
the
investigation
from
DCF
in.
B
C
B
Transit
and
sorry,
just
to
be
clear,
a
Transdev
by
contract
operates
the
transportation
system.
We
obviously
need
to
manage
Transdev,
but
everything
under
that
operation
related
to
yellow
bus
service
is
governed
by
Transdev,
so
they
are
in
charge
of
the
hiring
the
discipline
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and.
G
B
B
C
G
Vendor
considering,
we
have
35
people
and
discipline
being
paid,
some
of
whom
have
DCF
investigations
and
so
I
feel
in
terms
of
how
they
got
into
that
pipeline
and
are
in
this
position
now
to
be
paid.
For
us
not
to
work
is
a
concern
to
me
and
I
wanted
to
know
how
we
hold
or
will
hold
the
vendor
who
was
responsible
for
that
pipeline
accountable.
G
H
You
for
the
question
one
of
the
things
we've
been
working
on
with
Transdev
over
the
past
few
months.
That
I've
been
involved
is
looking
at
how
we
can
improve
on
driver
training.
We
sin
in
any
environment
that
you
have
and
I
was
a
former
teacher
right.
Well,
you
have
students
and,
and
especially
on
a
school
bus
where
you
know
a
driver
is
focusing
on
driving
and
and
there's
issues
that
can
arise
in
a
school
bus.
H
We
have
to
make
sure
the
drivers
are
equipped
with
we're
dealing
with
behaviors
that
might
transpire
on
the
bus
and
that's
also
oftentimes
you'll,
see
the
same
with
bus
monitors,
and
so
we
look
we're
having
a
conversation
about
how
we,
who
are
our
employees,
BPS
employees,
having
the
conversation
about
how
we
take
advantage
of
opportunities
that
we
have
in
the
summer
where
it
might
be
lighter
service
to
actually
provide
training
around
how
to
deal
with
students
who
might
be
unruly
on
the
bus
or
who
might
have
specialized
needs.
So
that's
one
major
area.
B
I
can
speak
to
that
very
briefly
and
in
fact
it's
a
good
tie
into
councillor
rules
question
from
before.
That
is
one
of
the
areas
where
we're
looking
to
see
if
we
can
have
dedicated
bus
lane
so
that
we
can
make
sure
our
buses
get
in
and
out
of
there.
I
know
that
the
MBTA
is
very,
very
interested
in
the
same
thing,
so
we
will
be
working
at
that.
My
understanding
is
for
the
next
year.
B
Plus
the
work
involved
will
largely
be
unseen,
would
be
more
more
it'll,
be
less
impactful
to
traffic
than
what
will
happen
come
the
fall
2019.
So
we
have
all
next
Squier
to
work
with
relatively
speaking
of
status
quo.
There
is
going
to
be
work
taking
place
on
the
on
the
bridge
project,
but
again
most
of
it
will
not
impact
traffic
as.
D
C
G
You
and
my
final
question
is
actually
a
very
specific
I.
Don't
know
if
you
call
rob,
but
during
the
summer
we
were,
we
had
to
deal
with
the
issue
of
the
BL,
a
bus
and
I
again
I'm
concerned
that
that's
gonna
be
an
issue
we
deal
with
this
year
and
there
there
seem
to
be
not
a
question
of
it
being
a
cost
issue
as
a
matter
of
a
issue
of
equity
and
how
based
on
some
analysis
it
was.
G
It
was
more
equitable
to
the
folks
in
my
district
to
cancel
that
bus
to
get
folks
from
Charlestown
and
East
Boston
to
be
LA
and
I.
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
part
of
your
analysis
or
your
plan
again,
but
I
wanted
to
get
ahead
of
that.
To
make
sure
that
that
conversation,
we
can
bet
that
before
folks
are
again
making
their
decisions.
Sure.
G
A
I
You,
madam
chair,
good
afternoon,
John
and
Rob.
Thank
you
for
a
thorough
overview.
I
know
this
is
difficult,
but
obviously
there
would
be
interest
of
my
colleagues
and
I
show
that
this
is
something
that
we
all
feel
very
very
strongly
about.
I
guess,
I'd
start
with
I
think
slide.
12
you
talked
about
how
the
it
was
the
last
five
six,
seven
eight
years
of
costs
increasing,
and
it
noted
that
there
was
a
spending
cap
with
the
prior
vendor
which
helped
keep
costs
low.
B
Legally
speaking,
through
procurement
law,
we
are
not
allowed
to
change
the
terms
of
the
contract
after
the
contract
has
already
been
given,
as,
quite
frankly
after
the
RFP
has
been
released,
were
allowed
to
change
those
terms.
So
we
cannot
negotiate
anything
fundamental
like
that
with
our
current
vendor.
In
addition,
as
we
saw
from
the
landscape
when
we
tried
that
approach
before
it's
very
likely
that
if
we
introduced
an
RFP
with
a
spending
cap
that
we
will
get
no
competition
bidding
on
that
work,.
I
B
So
just
to
be
really
clear
and
spelled
us
out
again:
we
released
an
RFP
prior
to
four
students
last
year
and
that
RFP
we
included
a
spending
cap.
We
had
no
bidders
on
that
work.
We
released
a
different
RFP
where
we
removed
the
spending
cap.
We
then
had
four
bidders
yeah
on
that
contract.
One
of
them
was
for
a
student
for
a
student's
proposed
management
fee
through
that
work
was
far
far
higher
than
the
management
fee
proposed
by
Transdev.
Our
current
vendor,
okay
and.
I
Again,
I
don't
want
to
get
too
much
in
the
weeds,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
find
maddening
and
I
know
you
guys
do
we
all
do
is
that
we
are
spending
more
for
Less
service
for
less
fewer
students
transported
less
service.
Admittedly,
costs
go
up,
but
I
would
venture
guess,
as
it
relates
to
fuel
fuel,
as
probably
is
less
expensive
now
than
it
was
six
seven.
Eight
years
ago,
there's
been
fluctuations,
but
it's
cheaper
now
than
it
was
in
probably
2009
2010.
I
So
when
I
hear
that
some
of
the
added
costs
with
this
vendor
and
councilor,
who
asked
about
sort
of
the
high
number
of
drivers
who
were
suspended-
and
you
couldn't
answer
whether
or
not
that
was
an
anomaly,
but
if
335
out
of
750
drivers
are
suspended
with
pay
I
believe
the
slide
said
it's
a
34%
increase
over
last
year.
That's
a
staggering
number!
So
I
guess.
I
My
question
to
you
is
and
I'm
not
looking
to
necessarily
point
blame,
but
it
seems
that
this
vendor
is
not
helping
us
actualize
more
of
these
savings
than
we
need
to.
So
when
is
their
contract
up?
And
how
do
we
get
I
would
think
this
is
an
incredibly
attractive
contract
for
people
to
get
I
believe
you
that
no
one
applied
for
a
spending
cap-
and
there
were
only
four
but
but
offering
transportations.
Bus
public
schools,
I,
would
think
would
be
an
enormous
ly,
attractive
package
for
any
vendor.
B
I
think
one
way
I'd
like
to
approach
that
is
actually
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
clarity,
because
I
can
see.
How
are
you
coming
to
those
conclusions
or
assumptions
based
on
the
data
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
in
reality?
We're
actually
very
happy
right
now
with
the
work
of
our
vendor.
They
replace
their
local
leadership.
Prior
to
this
schoolyard
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
school
year,
we
have
a
much
closer
working
relationship
with
the
vendor
right
now.
B
We've
also
filled
two
of
our
own
very
significant
vacancies
that
we
went
into
the
school
year
with
over
the
last
few
months,
which
again
allows
us
to
strengthen
our
relationship
with
Transdev.
One
thing
that
you
see
in
terms
of
this
increase
in
suspended
with
pay
on
one
hand,
it
looks
like
a
negative
and
I
mentioned
this
when
I
was
describing
it
before
it
looks
like
a
negative,
because
it's
a
cost
increase
and
what's
going
on,
why
do
we
have
35
drivers
suspended
with
pay
on
another
hand?
B
It's
actually
a
positive
because
we're
taking
more
proactive
measures
right
now
to
discipline
drivers
when
they
need
to
be
disciplined,
which
is
not
necessarily
something
that
was
happening
in
years
prior.
We
believe
that
this
is
keeping
our
children
more
safe,
as
Charles
was
relating
we're
working
very
closely
with
that
transportation
vendor
to
make
sure
that
the
length
of
time
that
our
drivers
are
out
on
leave
is
less
than
it
has
been
in
the
past,
so
that
we
can
return
these
drivers
to
the
road
as
fast
as
possible.
B
F
Council
I
just
add
to
that
how
serious
we
do
take
that
working
relationship
and
that
review
in
constant
working
with
Transdev
Charles
grants
and
deputy
chief
of
operations
is
brand
new
in
a
new
position
to
help
monitor
and
oversee
that
and
oversee
that
work.
Hiring
a
brand
new
transportation
director.
So
just
can
tell
you
that
you
know
making
sure
that
we
have
a
good
relationship
with
the
vendor
and
that
the
vendor
is
working
with
us
to
help
address
issues
we
see
is
a
number-one
priority.
B
Last
thing
that
I
would
say:
councilor,
if
you
would
mind,
is
we've
seen
from
doing
some
market
analysis
in
this
that
a
there
are
very,
very
few
vendors
out
there
that
would
qualify
for
this
worker.
That
would
take
this
work,
which
is
why,
even
when
we
had
a
different
RFP
process
a
few
years
ago,
we
still
only
saw
four
vendors
been
in
the
work.
There
are
very,
very
few
vendors
nationally.
That
could
actually
take
this
on,
be
the
complexity
that
we
have
in
Boston.
I
B
I
I
think
we
do
and
and
I
appreciate,
that
looking
at
the
increase
of
administrative
leave
with
pay
shows
that
you're
getting
serious
I.
Take
you
at
your
word,
but
then
at
the
Senate
slide.
Before
that
exception,
time
has
been
increased.
Now
you
make
mention
that
could
be
because
of
traffic
in
the
city
that
we
all
deal
with.
Standby
drivers
have
increased,
so
you
know
I
just
in
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
I
want
us
to
be
as
thorough
and
comprehensive
in
realizing
that
we
are
paying
the
rate
that
the
taxpayers
of
Boston
are
paying
a
hundred
and
ten
a
hundred
and
twenty
million
dollars
and
our
level
of
service
a
number
of
the
fewer
kids
are
taking
it
and
the
cost
just
keep
growing.
So
a
couple
other
questions,
I
think
John.
Your
point
about
port
Norfolk
receiving
twenty
different
buses
on
a
very
small
part
of
the
neighborhood
is
illustrative
of
what
the
problem
we
are
dealing
with.
My
question
is
with
the
implementation
of
home
base.
B
And,
and
and
just
to
be
clear,
I
was
using
that
only
as
an
illustrative
point,
I,
don't
know
what
the
data
is
right
now.
It
may
have
actually
started
to
decrease
in
recent
years,
but
the
fact
that
there
were
ever
that
money,
I
think,
is
an
indication
of
just
how
extensive
school
choices
with
within
the
district.
B
I
did
that
I
misstated
I
might
not
have
said
now.
I
may
have
said
recently,
I
don't
know,
but
the
point
was
years
ago
there
was
one
in
recent
years
there
have
been
as
many
as
20.
What
I
will
say
is
yes.
Home
base
is
creating
a
difference
year-to-year
in
terms
of
our
number
of
riders
and
how
far
away
they
are
being
driven.
However,
it's
a
very
slow,
very
gradual
change
in
the
data
year-to-year
and
I.
F
That
would
probably
just
add
to
counsel
that
anecdotally
in
a
particularly
lower
grades,
k1
k2
parents,
now
more
than
ever,
are
choosing
Boston
Public
Schools
to
take
some
of
the
great
successes
that
we've
had
like
adding
oh
close
to
eleven
hundred
new
students
in
level
one
schools
in
the
last
two
years,
so
particularly
our
lower
grades,
parents
I,
can
see
it.
In
my
own
district.
In
my
own
children's
Boston
public
school
parents
will
want
to
get
into
schools
like
the
Roosevelt,
the
Murphy.
F
F
B
The
other
thing,
I
would
say,
councilor
in
terms
of
the
the
point
about
home
based
is
again
just
remembering
the
the
implication
and
at
play
with
siblings
of
students.
What
it
means
is,
even
though
home
base
went
to
affect
a
couple
years
ago,
we're
still
going
to
see
another
eight
nine
years
of
students
being
driven
out
of
home
base
because
of
a
sibling,
grandfathering.
Shinobi,
should
understood
and.
I
I-
and
that
was
something
that
was
important,
so
I'm-
glad
that
that
was
their
their
sibling
grandfathering.
It
I
want
to
be
respectful.
My
colleague
so
I
think
I'm
gonna
end
with
this,
and
then
I
will
be
back
for
the
second
round
of
questioning
the
door
to
door
versus
corner
pick
up
seems
to
be
driving
a
lot
of
the
increased
costs
and
I
wonder:
is
it
an
option
for
a
student
who's
receiving
an
IEP
who
would
automatically
get
door
to
door
service
that
he
or
she
could
receive
the
corner
service?
Yes,.
I
C
B
Is
the
first
year
where
was
introduced
under
the
new
IEP
platform,
if
that
family
has
already
had
their
IEP
meeting
for
this
year,
yeah
that
lays
out
what
their
services
are
going
to
look
like
and
what
they're
going
to
receive
through
the
school
and
that's
where
they
would
first
encounter
this
change
in
the
structure
of
the
IUP
plot.
Okay,.
I
B
I
I
Yes
and
and
I
guess
it
would
seem
to
me
that
and
I
know
and
I
will
give
Carol
Johnson.
All
the
credit
in
the
world's
former
superintendent
really
had
a
desire
that
we
all
share
that
to
eventually
get
to
zero
kids
being
served
out
of
district,
because
we
could
serve
every
kid
and
I
get.
There
are
some
kids
that
have
challenges
that
we
are
not
equipped
to
serve,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
that
number
is
growing
in
just
the
exponential
number
of
the
transportation.
I
would
think
that
we
could
hire.
I
We
could
invest
that
nine
point
week:
five
million
dollars
in
having
the
these
services
to
service
these
hundred,
sixty-six
kids
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
oversimplify
it
and
I
don't
want
to
minimize
it
and
again.
I
know
you
guys
have
a
very
demanding,
very
difficult
job,
but
that
from
being
here
now,
while
eight
years,
it
seems
that
that
number
is
growing
of
out
of
district
placement
in
the
cost
is
associate
with.
I
I
J
C
B
B
Not
less
than
119
million
now
what
I
will
say
is
in
early
December.
We
had
released
a
budget
forecast
at
that
time
as
well,
which
would
have
been
a
couple
million
higher
than
what
it
is
today,
but
we've
been
able
to
exercise
some
things
since
then.
That's
allowed
us
to
reduce
more
cost
than
likely
we'll
be
able
to
do
over
the
next
few
months.
Okay,.
J
And
and
I
do
want
to
applaud
bps,
for
you
know,
we
might
see
some
increases
and
the
k1
seats
and
at
certain
certain
schools,
but
obviously
we're
seeing
folks
also
leave
the
system
because
they're
on
they're
unhappy
for
various
reasons,
and
so
our
overarching
are
sort
of
largest
number
or
total
students
are
ultimately
declining.
Even
if
it's
a
sweat
as
small
rate.
J
30Th
and
going
back
to
the
RFP
for
that
I
understand
when
we
put
on
RFP
out
there's
no,
there
was
nothing
in
that
that
sort
of
said
cost
savings
like
the
previous
contract,
because
people
would
have
said.
No
thank
you,
but
in
looking
at
how
that
RFP
is
shaped,
I.
Imagine,
for
example,
only
certain
types
of
companies
and
corporations
could
apply
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
district
when
it
comes
to
transportation.
So,
for
example,
an
uber
could
apply
to
that
RFP
correct.
C
J
In
putting
out
I'm
looking
forward
and
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
look
at
you
see
the
best
chart
for
this
might
be
so
on
page
14
of
the
presentation.
So
we
look
at
11%
of
the
door-to-door
students
are
driving.
39
percent
of
the
cost
and
I
understand
that,
and
much
of
that
is
articulated.
Putting
my
education
lawyer
hat
on
by
IEP
s,
and
the
district
has
a
very
difficult
time
trying
to
get
out
of
an
RFP
or
change
that
option
once
a
family
gets
it
to
go
door
to
door
for
a
student
with
an
IEP.
J
So
is
it
possible
looking
forward
not
in
the
current
context
of
the
contract
or
our
RFP
that
went
on
in
the
past,
but
to
pull
this
apart
a
little
bit
to
issue
an
RFP
that
doesn't
cover
all
of
the
students
but
to
say,
for
example,
for
door
to
door
we're
going
to
look
at
a
different
options?
We're
gonna
shape
that
RFP
differently
to
attract
other
people.
J
J
That's
what
I
would
like
to
see,
because
I
think
this
is
I,
think
it's
really
challenging
for
us
to
sit
at
bps
and
think
about
all
the
ways
we
can
be
creative
I.
Also
in
concern
that
we
can't
share
certain
conversations
publicly
around
some
of
the
innovations
you
might
be
thinking
about,
because
I
think
our
residents
and
our
parents
want
to
know
what
these
conversations
are
and
I
think
it's
important
that
they
know.
J
So
they
maybe
if
they
have
ideas,
but
if
you
put
out
an
RFP
all
of
that
as
always
public
and
so
anything
that
comes
back
to
us.
We
just
say
we're
just
we're
just
getting
feedback
and
ideas
from
the
community
and
trying
to
find
the
best
way
to
save
millions
of
dollars.
So
this
cut.
So
this
line
item
and
the
bps
budget
doesn't
keep
going
up
so
I'd
love
to
see
that
I'd
love
the
next
time.
J
We
go
come
back
to
budget
conversations
particularly
round
transportation,
that
we
have
some
updates
or
ideas
around
how
we
what's
how
we
legally
can
design
our
fees
to
do
this,
but
also
where
we
are
with
cost
sharing
ideas
with
other
municipalities
to
share
in
our
costs,
for
these
students
going
so
pay.
14
I
have
something
here
that
looks
like
FY,
17
numbers,
so
very.
J
Similar,
but
the
one
thing
that
stands
out
to
me
is
so,
for
example,
if
you
look
at
that
11
percent
of
the
door
to
door,
it
was
11%.
Last
year
it
was
11
percent.
It
was
11
percent
in
FY,
17
11%,
based
on
this
and
FY
18
11
percent
driving
37
percent
of
the
costs
in
FY
17,
but
driving
39
percent
of
the
costs
in
FY
18.
But
then
you
look
at
the
corner.
Students
in
fy17
was
36%
matching
with
36
percent
of
the
cost.
J
Fy
18
is
30%
our
drop-in
6%,
but
the
cost
only
dropped
1%.
So
then
I'm
looking
at
also
the
number
of
students
and
the
cost.
So
if
it's
not
the
number
of
students
that
are
driving
the
cost,
I'm
really
still
confused
as
to
what
is
I
think
that
goes
back
to
councilor,
sabe
Georgia's
pointed
probably
everyone's
point,
which
is
if
the
number
of
students
are
stagnant
or
declining
the
overall
cost,
keep
going
up.
What
is
that
you
know
right.
J
Just
add
to
Cle,
as
we
add
not
only
a
declining
number
of
students
or
the
same
number
of
students,
but
then
we
add
MIT
efficiencies
when
we
add
taking
off
taking
50
buses
out
out
of
the
routes
when
we
add
it
possible,
you
know
MBTA
bus
lanes
or
the
opt
outs
as
successes
around
the
opt
outs.
When
we
add
all
these
other
efficiencies-
and
we
get
even
some
of
these
savings
that
you
guys
have
done
nothing
changes,
it
just
keeps
going
up.
What
is
that?
Is
it
driver
salaries?
Is
it
benefits?
B
B
J
B
The
reason
for
that
is
it
doesn't
so
much
matter
how
many
students
you
from
service
it
matters
how
many
buses
you're
removed
from
service.
So,
for
example,
if
if
everyone
down
here
and
the
pits,
as
they
say,
is
riding
a
bus
to
school.
Okay,
and
if
you
don't
mind,
councillor
sabi
George
and
councilor
Pressley,
the
two
of
you
have
been
removed
from
service,
because
you
opted
out
that
bus
is
still
going
to
continue
to
ride
that
same
bus
that
picked
up.
B
B
B
That
means
that
we've
just
removed
a
bus
from
service,
and
so
one
bus
is
still
going
to
remain,
but
one
bus
is
not,
and
so
in
that
way
we're
actually
reducing
cost
quite
a
bit,
but
it
really
depends
on
where
the
students
are
and
what
the
makeup
is
of
those
bus
routes
that
they're
assigned
to.
If
that
makes
sense,.
K
B
Reason
why
we
would
see
a
stronger
correlation
between
door-to-door
is
because,
typically
door-to-door
students
are
living
further
away
from
school,
in
which
case,
if
you
remove
one
or
two
of
those
door-to-door
students,
you
have
a
better
shot
of
removing
that
bus
or
filling
that
bus
with
other
students.
If
that
makes
sense
on
that
note,
your
your
concept
before
of
having
two
different
RFPs,
you
know,
one
for
say:
door-to-door
or
private
special
education,
one
for
general
education.
It
is
something
worth
considering
for
sure.
B
We
need
to
make
sure,
though,
when
doing
that
that
it
would
lead
to
cost
savings.
What
we'd
have
right
now
is
an
integrated
bus
system
where,
if
again,
all
of
us
are
riding
a
bus,
if
I
require
a
door-to-door
service,
I'm
still
riding
that
same
bus
that
everyone
else
is
and
that
allows
us
to
control
costs
a
little
bit
rather
than
having
a
segregated
system
where
one
bus
is
for
general
education.
One
bus
is
for
special
education,
but
certainly
it's
worth
considering,
but
back
to
the
crux
of
the
matter.
This
this
graph.
B
It
really
comes
down
to
who
opts
out
and
where
they
are
another
way
to
look
at.
That
is,
if
again,
the
chief
of
staff
in
Sava
and
I
are
at
the
same
bus
stop.
If
if
he
opts
out
but
I,
don't
doesn't
really
save
us
anything,
because
that
bus
stop
is
still
in
play.
This
the
bus
still
has
to
come
and
pick
me
up.
It
helps
eventually
once
you
get
to
a
certain
number
right,
but
it's
not
as
directly
linked
to
cost
as
what
you'd
think
and.
J
J
So
I
think
this
is
why
it's
such
a
great
idea
to
think
about
breaking
this
apart,
because
I,
imagine
those
students
who
are
getting
door
to
door
tend
to
be
tend
to
be
on
some
of
the
smaller
buses
routes,
where
it's
only
a
few
students,
not
a
big
ole
bus
because
of
the
unique
time
door-to-door
I.
Remember
just
having
a
lot
of
students
with
IEP
s,
they
would
get
the
smaller
buses.
J
We
anticipate
it's
just
going
to
keep
going
up.
So
I
really
think
this
idea
of
looking
at
other
folks
coming
bringing
in
their
expertise
based
on
whatever
model
they
use
for
transportation,
could
be
extremely
helpful
to
us
and
my
last
question
goes
to
I
think
just
sort
of
the
accountability
piece,
not
just
what
councillor
Edwards
and
council
rule
were
saying
about
the
folks
who
are
on
suspension
or
currently
suspended
with
pay,
and
whether
or
not
you
know
is
that
sort
of
normal
or
is
it
not
I?
J
Guess
we
could
look
at
past
numbers
and
and
pull
that
apart
and
I
think
it's
worth
doing
that,
but
just
a
question
of
accountability
in
general
and
whether
or
not
we
are
equipped
to
do
it
well
with
our
transportation
suppliers.
So,
for
example,
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
the
budget
conversation
last
fiscal
year
was,
for
example,
fuel
and
the
costs
related
to
fuel.
You
know
we
had
the
fire
department
in
here
and
I
said
you
know.
J
How
would
you
realize
these
savings
with
your
fleet
and
they
said
Oh
fuel
costs
went
down
and
we
may
save
millions,
and
then
you
go
over
to
bps
and
the
fuel
costs
went
up
and
I
know
it's
different
routes
and
different
things,
but
it
was
still
such
a
large
gap.
It
was
surprising
not
to
see
any
level
of
savings
or
flattening
out
of
some
way.
So
it
was
just
a
question
about.
Are
we
really
equipped
to
hold
the
company
accountable
on
every
single
level
and
that's
just
a
question
I'm
not
pointing
fingers
in
any
way.
J
I
know
it's
not
an
easy,
easy
job,
but
just
I
think
the
accountability
metrics.
You
know
also
support
this
idea
of
breaking
the
system
apart
a
little
bit
and
doing
things
a
little
bit
differently,
but
still,
of
course,
providing
an
efficient,
reliable
system
for
every
student
who
attends
our
schools.
Thank.
B
You
a
brief
note
on
the
fuel
cost.
It
should
be
noted
that
we're
not
saying
that
the
that
the
unit
cost
is
necessarily
going
up.
It's
the
cost
on
that
line
item
that
might
be
going
up
because
there
might
be
more
mileage
driven
by
the
buses
than
what
was
planned
for
clearly
there's
a
strong
correlation
there
right
between
our
total
fuel
cost
our
total
mileage.
If
we
need,
if
we
need
to
add
buses,
because
some
of
the
other
factors
that
we've
spelled
out
today,
then
those
buses
are
then
driving
more
miles.
J
And
I
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
the
case
or
not,
but
was
mileage
or
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
see
if
the
fuel
cost
went
down.
How
is
that
reflected
in
their
books
and
then
is
if
it
is
mileage?
How
is
that
also
reflected
so
that
we
can
really
see
that
that's
the
case,
but
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I
think
this
is
helpful
as
we
continue
the
conversations
going
forward.
So
thank
you.
Both
counsel.
F
Just
because
you
were
asked
and
I
was
looking
it
up,
because
you
asked
the
question
about
our
student
population.
Yes,
obviously,
over
year
over
year,
our
population
of
students
is
relatively
similar,
but
we
do
have
an
increase
year
over
fiscal
year.
18
does
have
an
increase
in
students
in
bps
over
a
fiscal
year.
17
do.
L
L
The
MBTA
doesn't
do
it
well
and
we
have
to
change
routes
every
year,
so
I
think
it
just
illustrates
how
complex
this
is
and
I
also
want
to
say
the
work
you
did
on
the
belt
times
also
equally
enlightening
and
informative
I
wanted
to
piggyback
off
one
thing:
councilor
O'malley
asked
about
the
166
students
passing
us
nearly
ten
million.
How
many
locations
do
we
send
those
166
kids
just
curious.
L
L
B
What
I
was
referring
to
is
you
know
this.
This
effort
that
we
launched
over
the
last
year
on
opt
outs
was
the
most
sophisticated
that
the
district
had
used
today
and
what
it
would
it
amounted
to
is
who
worked
hand-in-hand
with
our
schools.
Typically,
there's
there's
one
person
oftentimes
of
school
secretary
at
the
school
who
has
rosters
for
each
bus
and
certainly
by
three
quarters
of
the
way.
Through
the
year,
the
school
knows
who's
riding
the
bus
and
who's,
not
right,
even
a
large
school
with
800
students
and
600
them
riding
the
bus.
B
They
know
who's,
not
riding
the
bus,
so
they
told
us
last
spring.
These
are
our
students
who
are
never
riding
the
bus.
Then
we
called
those
families.
Typically,
what
we
found
was
for
every
two
families
we
called
only
one
of
them
would
opt
out
the
other
one
would
not
we.
Then
we
had
a
script
that
we
would
then
walk
through
with
them,
whereupon
we
would
say
something
to
the
effect
of.
B
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
comfortable,
you
know
keeping
the
bus
because
we're
seeing
from
the
data
that
your
child
is
never
ridden
the
bus
this
year.
In
many
cases
they
said.
Yes,
we
need
the
bus
in
case
there's
an
emergency
in
case
I
can't
get
him
there
to
school
so
and
so
forth,
and
in
some
cases
what
we
heard
back
from
those
families
is
I'm
afraid
if
I
opt
out,
I'm
not
gonna,
be
able
to
opt
back
in
right.
C
B
I
was
referring
to
earlier
was,
maybe
you
know,
leveraging
your
support
if
you
will
and
making
sure
that
general
public
knows
a
what
the
costs
are
when
they
don't
opt
out
because
oftentimes,
it
is
why
our
buses
aren't
as
full
as
would
like,
that
is
partly
a
small
part
by
our
Koster
as
high
as
they
are,
but
B.
We
want
public
the
public
to
know
that
they
can
opt
back
in
and
once
they
do
so
we
will
get
them
back
in
as
fast
as
we
can
right.
L
And
and
22-hundred
is
not
a
small
number
correct
and
do
you
and
do
you
think
that
there's
a
lot
more
so
did
you
get
a
list
of
22
hot?
Well,
so
you're
saying
that
forty
four
hundred
about
about
parents,
you
contacted
twenty
two
hundred
and
the
other,
so
there's
a
lot
of
routes
that
we're
devising
and
stops
based
on,
possibly
know.
Kids
B
well,
not
know
K,
but
at
least
not
that
many
kids
there
I
mean
some
instances
may
be
zero.
Kids
right,
correct,
correct
yeah!
That's.
L
L
To
survive,
but
after
six
months
like
well
anyway,
so
you're
in
I
would
think
you're
in
the
RFP
stage,
with
a
new
provider
for
July
1st.
If
this
one
did
you
say
this,
the
contract
expires,
this
June
30.
The
contract
expires
this
tumor.
So
since
I've
been
on
the
body,
we've
had
first
student
Veolia
and
now
Transdev
Karelia.
L
L
Then
finally,
you
know
to
also
piggyback
off
something
council
woo
brought
up.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
of
the
drivers
on
some
form
of
leave
and
I.
Don't
want
to
question
that,
but
that's
of
the
574
active
drivers
that
represents
over
25
percent
of
the
workforce.
To
me
that
sounds
high
and
I
think
we
should
again
that
that's
something
with
the
provider
that
I
think
we
should
look
at
if
25
percent
of
the
workforce
and
the
city
didn't
show
up
every
day.
L
We'd
have
a
real
serious
problem
and
that
that's
got
to
be
a
cost
driver.
Because
then
you
have
to
train
people
and
figure
out
routes
and
they
have
to
learn
the
route.
So
that's
got
to
be
a
significant
cost
driver
and
then
I
also
read
in
the
Bell
time
questionnaire
the
it's
about
80,000
per
driver.
Could
you
just
walk
me
through
a
typical
bus
drivers
day
schedule?
They
show
up
at
the
yard
at
6:00
a.m.
what
what
happens?
How
many
routes,
to
wit
it?
When
do
they
come
back
to
the
yard?
B
I'll
do
the
best
I
can
to
spell
it
out,
so
at
a
a
rooted
bus
driver,
let's
say:
okay,
so
there
are.
There
are
really
two
different
categories
of
bus
drivers.
There
are
those
who
are
called
standby
or
citywide
drivers,
and
those
are
the
hundred
and
thirty
three
that
we
began
the
year
with
who
are
there
to
provide
backup
service
in
the
case
of
a
driver
they.
B
See
they're
at
the
yard:
oh
okay,
so
they're,
not
necessarily
on
call
those
drivers
report
at
5
a.m.
every
day.
Okay,
they
are,
and
I
might
be
off
and
by
15
minute
increments,
but
generally
you'll
get
the
gist
of
what
I'm
gonna
spell
out:
they're
required
by
contract
to
be
paid
a
flat
rate,
whether
they
drive
a
bus
or
not
from
roughly
5
a.m.
until
7:30
a.m.
mm-hmm,
and
then
in
the
afternoon.
B
They
report
again
at
forgive
me
about
12:30,
if
you
will
somewhere
in
them
and
they
are
required
by
contract
to
be
paid
until
about
3:15
every
day,
mm-hmm,
whether
they
drive
or
not.
In
many
cases
they
do
drive
and
what
happens
is
if
they
pick
up
a
route
that
starts
at
say,
6:00
a.m.
through
the
standby
bid
that
happens
every
single
morning.
So
what
happens
is
in
any
given
morning?
We
might
have
a
hundred
drivers
who
aren't
there
right.
So
we
then
need
to
post
those
posts,
not
all
of
those.
L
B
Of
the
150
is
included
in
that
number,
I
would
say
in
terms
of
drivers
that
may
be
worn
out
the
day
before
it's
a
it's,
a
small
number
right,
some
of
them,
many
of
them
when
they're
out
they're
out
for
extended
periods
of
time,
okay,
but
we
would
have
a
number
of
drivers
who
are
absent.
Okay,
the
routes
that
those
drivers
run
are
then
posted
for
bid,
but
for
the
standby
drivers.
Okay,
this
happens
every
single
morning
out,
I,
think
5:15
in
the
morning.
B
They
bid
on
those
routes
and
if
they
pick
up
a
route
that
starts
at
say,
6:00
and
ends
at
10:00,
then
they're
paid
their
standby
rate
from
5:00
until
6:00
and
then
they're
paid
the
route.
The
rate
for
that
route
up
until
10:00
a.m.
so
they're,
not
double
paid.
If
you
will
mm-hmm,
does
that
make
sense
yeah,
so
a
stand
by
a
driver
typically
will
come
to
the
yard
about
five.
If
they
run
a
route,
they
might
then
be
on
the
road
until
about
10:00
a.m.
B
if
you,
if
you
consider
most
of
our
schools,
the
latest
start
time
is
9:30.
Most
of
the
time,
our
drivers
are
back
in
the
yard
by
10:00,
10:15,
okay,
and
then
they
have
a
split
shift,
which
means
they
have
a
morning
shift
and
an
afternoon
shift
so
from
10:15
until
roughly
12:15
they're,
not
they're,
not
they're.
B
Be
working
right
in
some
cases
they're
there
at
the
bus
yard
in
the
driver's
room.
You
know
with
their
friends
or
what-have-you
right
and
then
at
12:15.
The
whole
thing
starts
up
again
and
if
they
pick
up
a
route
again
in
the
afternoon,
then
they're
back
whenever
that
route
comes
to
a
close,
because
traffic
is
far
worse
in
the
afternoon
than
it
is
in
the
morning,
and
because
our
dismissal
times
are
much
more
staggered
in
the
afternoon,
you
might
have
a
driver
who
begins
as
p.m.
L
L
M
You
ma'am
chair,
thank
you
for
this
hearing
and
thank
the
both
of
you
for
what
you
do
every
day
and
again
for
your
willingness
to
have
tough
conversations
and
for
always
being
so
accessible
and
responsive
Rob.
We
especially
appreciate
you
know
having
you
there
and
your
eyes
and
the
lens
you
bring
having
served
on
this
body
and
having
that
insight
as
to
what
we're
struggling
with
as
fiscal
stewards
and
so
I.
Just
thank
you
both
echoing
the
words
of
my
colleagues.
The
presentation
has
been
very
thorough.
M
Very
comprehensive
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
robust
line
of
questioning,
which
leaves
me
in
the
unenviable
position
to
either
be
repetitive
or
to
just
go
a
different
course.
So
I'm
gonna
go
a
different
course,
because
many
of
the
questions
that
I
had
have
been
asked
and
answered
and
when
I
stepped
out
I
might
have
missed
your
presentation
on
this
particular
crosstab.
So
please
forgive
me
if
you're
having
to
be
repetitive
but
I
wanted
to
understand.
More
specifically,
you
know.
M
Certainly
we
all
are
working
diligently
to
end
homelessness
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
housing
first,
and
so
you
know.
That's
the
priority,
what
we're
working
on,
but
that
being
said,
we
do
know
that
there
are
so
many
families
experiencing
homelessness
and
most
of
them
are
in
motels
outside
of
the
city
and
then
I'm
having
to
their
children.
Having
to
be
you
know,
busting,
so
could
you
speak
specifically
from
a
transportation
lens
how
these
funds?
What
is
the
sort
of
line
item
and
how
are
we
meeting
the
needs
of
this
population.
B
B
I
can
say,
is
Ed's
approaching.
The
mic
is
that
there
was
a
change
in
legislation
related
to
the
transportation
of
homeless
students
or
students
introduced
over
the
last
couple
years,
known
as
mckinney-vento,
that
has
been
very
costly
for
school
districts
like
Boston.
We
saw
a
significant
increase
in
costs.
Last
year
we
saw
another
increase
in
costs
this
year.
B
That
increases
not
mention
in
the
slides
we
planned
for
tourists
to
a
certain
extent,
although
it
tastes
even
our
projections
for
this,
which
I
think
it
can
relate
but
you're
right,
and
we
do
need
to
do
whatever
we're
required
to
do
by
a
lot
to
provide
safe,
reliable
transportation
for
those
students.
It
just
so
happens
that
the
legislation
has
been
burdensome
for
districts
in
terms
of
the
length
of
time
that
we
need
to
provide
that
service
and
the
overall
cost
that
it
then
creates
and.
M
Might
I
add
it's
not
I
mean
forget
about
being
in
that
sort
of
situation
and
how
awful
that
is.
But
you
know
none
of
these
families
want
to
be
disconnected
from
the
city
either.
This
is
really
troublesome.
They
usually
have
more
than
one
child
they're
having
to
figure
out
childcare
work
schedules.
You
know
school
schedules
from
multiple
children
and
they're
disconnected
from
family
and
usually
the
delivery
of
services
that
they
require,
which
is
a
cross-section
of
services.
How
can
they
access
them
when
they're,
not
even
in
the
city?
M
So
it's
not
a
situation
that
works
for
for
anyone
correct,
and
so
you
said
you
couldn't
speak
specifically
to
what
the
the
growth
is.
I
guess
you
know,
while
we're
dealing
with
you
know,
income
inequality,
that's
you
know
worsening,
and
a
growing
number
of
families
experiencing
homelessness.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
from
a
fiscal
standpoint
that
we
have
the
resources
that
we
need
to
not
only
meet
what
we're
required
by
law
to
do,
but
to
just
meet
the
unique
needs
of
this
population.
Yes,.
B
M
N
Number
of
students
that
were
providing
I
don't
have
the
specifics
on
how
many
we
are
this
year,
but
there
was
state
law
change
last
year
this
year.
That
did
hurt
us
a
little
bit
financially,
but
we,
you
know,
we
knew
it
was
coming
so
we're
able
to
beef
up
the
budget
so
in
terms
of
financially
we're
on
target
to
hit
budget,
but
just
because
we
kind
of
planned
for
it
and
the
law
change
that
did
hurt.
M
M
M
A
F
A
F
What
we
can
also
do
is,
as
you
know,
the
mayor
last
year
and
this
year
made
a
commitment
of
funding
for
homelessness
in
bps
students
outside
of
just
transportation,
so
we
can
get
to
that
information
as
well
what
we
did
last
year
and
what's
currently
before
school
committee
right
now,
that's
pending.
Okay,.
M
M
On
their
own
okay,
what
I
was
curious
about
is
two
things
one,
while
we're
making
this
formidable
financial
investment,
keeping
these
number
of
vehicles
on
the
road
just
trying
to
gauge
our
children
arriving
to
school
on
time.
So
you
know
which
is
sort
of
more
efficient
and
more
reliable.
Here.
Are
we
finding
that
the
buses
are
arriving
on
time
and
there's
no
loss
of
classroom
time
just
curious,
just
given
the
gridlock
and
I?
M
M
B
M
B
A
O
Did
ya
all
right?
I
just
have
a
couple,
mainly
it's
on
the
operations
aspect,
more
so
than
the
budget
I
think
we
kind
of
pounded
the
budget
with
all
my
colleagues.
For
me,
you
know
you
had
talked
about
the
opt-out
services
and
we're
talking
about
next
year
having
a
brand
new
contract
with
an
RFP.
Something
I've
been
talking
about
for
the
last
four
years.
Is
the
possibility
of
smaller
buses,
vans,
saving
fuel
saving
the
environment,
certainly
helping
traffic
and
I
believe
this
safer
for
the
kids,
because
the
kids?
O
B
B
Minibuses
typically
will
fit
no
more
than
a
dozen
kids
on
them.
There
are
HS
budget
buses
which
are
the
H.
F
stands
for
half-size.
Those
can
fit
up
to
30,
but
those
are
30,
small
kids,
where
you
can
fit
through
to
a
seat,
and
then
there
are
full
buses
where
you
can
fit
70
students
again
70
small,
elementary
young
elementary
school
students
in
the
last
at
least
the
last
year,
likely
going
longer
than
that.
We've
been
trying
to
concentrate
many
of
our
bus
purchases
in
the
HS
category.
B
Those
tend
to
be
the
real
workhorses
of
our
bus
fleet.
Those
are
the
half
sized
buses.
In
some
cases.
The
full-size
buses
also
have
a
limitation
where
they
can't
go
down
certain
roads
within
the
city.
So,
as
increases
in
door-to-door
continue
to
happen,
we
cannot
pick
up
those
students
with
full
buses
because
oftentimes
those
students
live
on
streets
that
can't
be
accessed
by
a
full
bus.
The
HS
is
give
us.
B
The
ability
to
you
know,
fill
up
a
bus
at
a
smaller
number
overall
than
a
full
sized
bus,
but
give
us
more
flexibility
overall
than
what
we
would
be
doing
with
those
full-size
buses.
What
I
can
also
say
is,
as
it
comes
as
it
relates
to
cost,
there's
very
little
if
any
cost
difference
across
any
of
the
different
bus
categories.
In
addition
to
that,
they
would
be
less
of
a
cost
difference
than
one
might
think
if
looking
at
vans
rather
than
buses.
B
If
that
makes
sense,
the
last
thing
that
I'd
say
in
that
in
terms
of
being
environmentally
conscious
is
that
our
last
round
of
bus
purchases
for
at
least
the
last
two
years
have
been
propane
vehicles.
We've
become
a
nation
leader
in
terms
of
overturning
our
fleet,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
move
toward
solely
propane-powered
school
buses,
which
I
don't
believe
any
other
school
district
has
quite
yet
and
we're
not
there
yet
either.
O
But
literally
we
have
buses
that
are
stopping
every
300
feet
and
they're
flipping
out
the
stop
sign
and
they're
swinging
out.
They
arm
and
traffic
continues
to
back
up.
So
when
I
look
at
a
15
passenger
van,
for
instance,
when
that
light
turns
green,
they
hit
the
gas
pedal
off.
They
go
it's
regular
gas.
It's
not
diesel
and
I
know
we're
going
to
propane,
which
is
which
is
fantastic,
but
I.
O
B
B
Fine
I
just
think
it
speaks
to
the
question
that
you're
asking
we
conducted
a
study
earlier,
there's
I
think
was
ten
or
twelve
buses
that
are
full.
They
are
full
by
the
time
they
get
to
the
school,
and
these
aren't
all
full
buses
by
the
way
big
big
buses.
Some
of
them
are
smaller
buses,
but
they're
all
full
by
the
time
they
get
to
the
school.
B
The
buses
are
going
to
be
empty
because
that
does
make
up
over
time
a
significant
amount
of
time
every
morning
for
that
bus
route
and
because
it
takes
time
to
run
the
whole
route,
you're
never
actually
seeing
the
bus
full
unless
you
happen
to
catch
it
for
the
small
amount
of
time
after
the
last
stop
before
it
gets
to
the
school.
When.
O
We
say
a
bus
is
full,
so,
let's
say
you're
leaving
whatever
school,
but
you
make
make
up
a
school
you're,
leaving
you're
leaving
a
school.
If
I
would
ask
those
principles
for
the
rosters
of
how
many
kids
actually
get
on
that
bus,
I,
don't
think
anybody
would
say
fall
and
I,
don't
think
they
would
say
full.
O
B
I
would
suggest,
then
maybe
is
if
we
take
the
conversation
offline,
I'm
happy
to
sit
you
on
and
talk
to
you
at
length
about
this.
In
fact,
one
of
the
problems
that
we've
had
this
year,
partly
because
of
the
rise
in
bus
monitors
as
buses
that
were
over
full,
quite
frankly
and
I'm,
just
being
honest,
where
we
have
to
then
split
a
route
because
once
you're
adding
in
of
one
or
two
or
three
monitors
to
a
bus.
Now
you
can't
fit
everyone
on
that
bus
anymore.
So
we
need
to
split
that
route.
B
That's
actually
been
more
common
this
year
than
in
past
years,
middle
school
or
grammar
school
or
with
any
kind
of
school.
Quite
frankly,
it's
the
students
who
require
bus
monitors
on
a
bus
and
typically
for
an
HS
bus
that
that
fits
up
to
thirty
students.
We
try
to
cap
it
at
24
to
27
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
in
there
and
we
do
have
quite
a
few
buses
across
the
district
that
do
that.
One
of
the
note
that
I'd
add
to
this
is
yes
from
time
to
time.
B
You
might
see
a
full
bus
which,
with
a
small
number
of
kids
on
board
and
it
looks
gravely
inefficient,
because
it's
such
a
large
bus
again
point
one.
The
costs
are
relatively
consistent,
whether
it's
a
full
bus
or
a
small
bus.
It
looks
bad,
but
the
costs
are
the
same
part
point,
and
this
is
very
important,
is
in
many
cases
those
full
buses
are
relatively
full
on
a
trip
prior
to
that
or
on
a
trip
after
that
and
we're
using
that
trip,
which
could
be
seen
as
an
inefficient
trip
in
a
vacuum.
B
We're
using
that
to
get
from
point
A
to
point
B,
because
it's
full
when
it
gets
to
point
a
it's
going
to
be
full
after
it
leaves
point
B
and
what's
the
best
way,
to
serve
the
small
number
of
kids
between
the
two.
Let's
just
get
that
full
bus
and
run
that
route
with
that
full
bus.
Even
though
it's
not
going
to
be
efficient
from
a
single
bus
perspective,
but
on
a
system
perspective,
it
is
more
efficient
move.
If
that
makes
sense.
Yeah.
O
No
III
see
what
you
saying:
I
I
really
do
I.
Just
you
know,
I
think
when,
when
we
talk
about
cost
o,
we
also
need
to
talk
about
environmental
cost
transportation
costs
as
far
as
what
it
does
to
a
small
business,
what
it
does
to
the
economy
and
in
boss,
and
when
you
know
people
are
saying
to
me,
you
know
I
can't
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
this
Main
Street
business,
because
traffic
is
awful
at
the
certain
amount
of
times,
and
so
that
leads
me
right
into
my
other
question.
O
O
B
O
The
mornings
it's
just
a
sea
of
yellow,
coming
out
right
down
high
pocket
just
boss
after,
but
it's
unbelievable
how
many
bosses
they
are
and
I
look
at
the
economic
impact
that
that
has
on
high
park.
It's
a
negative.
It's
a
huge
negative
because
you
have
all
of
the
bus
drivers
driving
to
the
yard,
which
is
a
trip
blocking
traffic.
Then
they
get
into
the
buses.
They
leave
there's
a
trip.
Then
they
come
back
for
ten
o'clock
eleven
o'clock.
That's
a
trip!
A
lot
of
them!
O
Don't
stay
in
the
drivers
thing
they
leave,
but
they
go
home.
They
don't
go
to
any
of
the
restaurants
or
any
of
the
stores.
And
then
they
come
back
there's
another
trip.
Then
they
leave
and
then
they
come
back.
So
that's
why
one
of
the
biggest
complaint
I
get
in
my
district,
especially
specifically
high
park
in
in
Roslindale
on
Washington
Street,
is
traffic.
O
Congestion
and
I
would
argue
that
during
rush
hour
well
rush
I
was
kind
of
all
the
time
now,
but
the
old
school
rush
hour
from
6:00
to
9:00
and
certainly
from
four
o'clock
to
6
o'clock.
My
district
is
so
congested
because
of
buses
that
it's
choking
a
lot
of
our
small
businesses.
So
as
we
look
forward,
I'd
like
to
see
us
take
a
look
at,
maybe
you
know
displacing
some
of
those
buses.
O
B
Of
the
city
anyway,
I
totally
understand
that
and
you'd
have
that
at
the
Charles
Town
bus
yard
as
well,
which
is
in
the
fringes
of
Charles
Town.
Unfortunately,
it's
less
likely
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
move
the
bus
here.
It's
closer
to
the
interior
of
the
city,
because
development
costs
in
the
interior
of
the
city
are
so
high
right
now
that
it
makes
it
almost
impossible
for
us
to
foresee
a
bus
yard
in
the
interior
of
the
city
outside
of
the
one
that
we
already
have
at
the
corner
of
Washington
and
Melnick
ass.
B
A
B
B
A
A
A
B
B
A
B
B
A
A
B
Do
and
those
are
buses
that
the
transportation
team
focus
all
of
their
energy
on
day
after
day
after
day,
to
try
to
fix
those
root
problems
that
that
may
have
come
up.
What
I
can
say
is
I
believe.
The
last
time
you
looked
at
the
data
for
this
at
91
percent
of
our
buses,
we're
showing
up
on
time
in
the
morning
about
97
percent,
if
I
remember
we're
showing
up
within
30
minutes
and
99
percent
were
showing
up
within
45
minutes,
the.
B
A
B
A
C
B
B
Then
you
need
because,
as
I
mentioned
before,
you
might
have
a
bus,
that's
full
for
a
seven
thirty
school
and
it
might
be
full
again
when
it
gets
to
a
nine
thirty
school,
but
it
might
not
be
even
anywhere
close
to
full
for
the
eight
thirty
school.
But
it's
still
a
more
efficient
use
of
resources.
To
do
that.
Yep.
B
B
I
mean
again
I,
don't
want
someone
to
leave
the
room
and
quote
me
at
this
and
say
that
this
is
absolutely
something
that
the
district
is
going
to
do,
because
we
would
need
to
work
through
a
very,
very
sophisticated
change
management
process
to
actually
roll
that
out
and
educate
the
general
public.
We
had
my
process
yeah.
We
had
a
again
an
extensive
opt-out
campaign
this
past
year.
We
might
ratchet
that
up
a
little
bit
more
in
the
next
year
or
two
and
then
over
time
that
might
morph
to
become
opting
in
rather
than
opting
out.
A
Then
you
know
the
the
purpose
of
this
hearing
was
to
understand
any
potential
savings
or
cost
overruns
in
the
budget,
especially
as
we
prepare
for
the
next
budget
to
just
understand
where
we
are
truly
with
the
dollars.
Why
wouldn't
we
in
last
in
the
fiscal
year
18
budget
proposal
that
we
had
a
year
ago?
Why
wouldn't
we
have
included,
or
you
have
included
the
exception
times
or
the
standby
driver
dot
the
the
expenses
associated
with
those
two
categories.
B
In
terms
of
exception
time,
that
was
that
was
unanticipated.
That
was
largely
because
of
an
increase
in
traffic
that
we
hadn't
projected
in
addition
to
an
increase
in
other
other
behaviors.
If
you,
if
you
will
that
we've
taken
some
efforts
to
address
during
the
course
of
this
year,
so
it
was
not
something
that
we
could
have
forecast
last
year,
we
did
not
forecast
anyhow
for
standby
drivers.
B
That
was
something
that
was
a
decision
that
we
made
relatively
late
going
into
the
school
year
after
the
budget
had
already
been
put
into
place,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
took
some
extra
precautions
to
ensure
that
we
had
enough
drivers
to
cover
any
route
problems
that
might
arise
from
the
new
innovative
work
that
we
were
doing
with
our
route
reductions.
So.
B
A
And
then
I'm
wondering
with
you
know
that
council
ramallah
brought
up
the
private
special
ed
students
in
the
significant
cost
that
that
they
that
they
are
to
the
district.
Have
we
looked
as
it?
You
know,
and
that's
a
significant
amount
of
savings
that
we
could
realize
if
we
were
to
provide
those
services
in
the
district.
Have
we
actively
been
looking
at
ways
to
do
that?
This
might
be
more
of
a
conversation
for
question
for
Rob
I.
F
Think
we
are
always
looking
at
these
kind
of
policies
to
see
how
we
can
serve
students
in
our
district.
You
know
we're
always
looking
at
how
we
can
do
things
both
cost-effectively,
but
I
obviously
think
too.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
always
want
to
make
sure
that
our
ultimate
goal
is
making
sure
we
serve
the
child
and
the
whole
child
and
doing
some
the
best
interest
of
the
child.
So
I
think
these
kind
of
things
both
on
this
issue
and
some
of
the
other
issues
we
talked
about
related
to
analyzing
cost
savings.
F
We
do
take
very
seriously
it's
something
that
dr.
Chang
and
the
mayor
and
our
budget
team
is
always
looking
at
to
make
sure
we're
doing
things
most
efficiently
as
possible
that
were
utilizing
all
our
cost
savings
and
that
we're
finding
abilities
to
do
the
job
at
lower
cost,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
when
it
comes
to
our
students.
What
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
always
making
sure
the
kids
get
the
services
that
they
need
to
be
served
to
help
meet
the
needs
that
they
have
no.
A
Of
course,
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
anything
at
that
expense,
but
at
the
transportation
expense
if
we're
gonna
provide
the
best
services
we
can
for
that.
For
that
child
in
the
district,
then
we
save
that
large
expense
and
on
that
slide,
21
that
broke
down
the
bps
corner
kid
versus
the
Charter
Cade
versus
a
parochial
did
that
were
those
dollar
amounts,
taking
into
account
the
projected
123
million
dollars
spent
this
year
or
that
will
be
spent
for
this
fiscal
year.
The.
A
B
Want
to
come
back
to
your
your
last
point,
just
as
a
point
of
clarification,
I
can't
say
that
I
know
the
special
education
department
uses
an
out
of
district
placement
as
a
last
resort
and
as
you're
well
aware,
we
oftentimes
don't
have
as
much
control
over
that
effect.
That
goes
to
a
legal
negotiation.
If
you
will
over
the
needs
that
a
student
might
actually
require
right,
but
I
know
that
the
special
education
department
does
whatever
it
can
to
provide
those
services
in
district.
That's
partly
why,
like?
B
Yes,
the
number
increased
from
147
266,
nearly
20
more
than
last
year,
and
yes,
it
causes
an
outsize
impact
on
our
transportation
budget.
But
it's
about
a
third
of
one
percent
of
all
students
served
by
Boston
Public
Schools.
So
it's
it's
still
a
relatively
small
number.
On
the
whole,
it's
just
an
expensive
small
number
that
we
do
need
to
take
efforts
to
address
right.
A
Because
in
the
cost
of
the
education,
we're
also
spending
correct
in
a
different
bucket,
that's
right
now,
we've
talked
a
lot
over
the
years
about
coordinating
or
clicking
students
from
different
schools
onto
one
bus
has.
Have
we
extended
that
conversation
to
clicking
students
of
charter
schools
and
parochial
schools
as
well,
because
that
would
drive
the
cost
down
and
potentially
use
fewer
buses.
Yeah.
B
I
mentioned
earlier
that
you
know
we're
exploring
clicking
buses
even
more
we've
discussed
in
this
very
room
in
the
past.
Why,
in
many
many
cases
clicking
buses
with
schools
that
are
very
close
to
each
other,
actually
doesn't
work,
so
in
many
cases
clicking
schools
that
are
in
different
sectors
still
will
not
work
in
many
cases.
But
this
idea
of
looking
across
sectors
in
terms
of
how
you're
sharing
buses
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
for
this
year,
which
is
not
necessarily
something
that
we
looked
heavily
at
before
right.
A
F
We
said
earlier
we're
gonna,
continue
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
the
counselors
in
the
state
elected
official,
but
particularly
the
counselor,
so
we
have
to
have
a
budget
before
them
in
April
all
the
way
through
June
and
have
to
make
decisions
on
our
budget.
We're
gonna
continue
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
information
you
need
working
with
our
great
team
who
was
available
to
get
you
that
information,
but
more
proactive
efforts,
as
we
said
around
regular
briefings
quarterly
briefings,
and
it
won't
end
just
when
the
budgets
finished.
F
A
B
If
I
will
say,
I'm,
sorry
and
councillor,
O'malley
I
apologize
as
well,
but
I
just
to
be
really
clear
and
I
think
that
this
probably
goes
without
saying,
but
I'll
say
it
anyway.
No
one
here
in
this
room
from
VPS
is
happy
that
we're
going
over
budget
we're
very
committed
to
doing
everything
that
we
possibly
can
within
the
constraints
that
we
operate
under
to
operate
under
budget.
Clearly,
this
is
something
just
on
a
personal
note.
B
I
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
both
for
those
remarks,
I'm
very
briefly,
because
I
do
want
to
be
respectful
of
those
that
have
signed
up
to
testify
and
I
apologize
I
had
to
step
up
for
another
meeting,
so
you
may
have
gone
over
this.
There
are
just
under
five
thousand
charter
school
students
home
by
law.
We
have
to
transport
correct
it's
four,
nine,
five,
five
right,
so
four
hundred
ninety
seven
thousand
nine,
fifty
five
and
the
tune
is
slightly
higher
than
just
the
bps
corner
of
three
three
thousand
one:
seventy
three
per
pupil
cost.
I
I
Corner
that's
helpful
and
the
Charter.
There
are
no
homebase
constraints
with
charter.
If
I
live
in
East
Boston
I
could
send
my
child
to
the
charter
school
in
Hyde
Park
correct,
which
obviously
means
that,
even
though
it's
fewer
students
that
that's
probably
why
it's
a
higher
cost
per
pupil,
so
we're
looking
combined
about
fifteen
point,
seven
million
dollars-
and
this
isn't
you
guys
and
you'll,
probably
appreciate
this
line
of
questioning,
because
I
know
you
share.
I
My
frustration
with
this
is
that
we
are
chronically
being
paid
underfunded
that
the
charter
school
reimbursement
by
the
state-
that's
something
that
we've
been
dealing
with
it
a
continuous
level
since
I've
been
here
and
even
beyond
that.
Yes
have.
We
ever
sent
a
bill
to
the
state
for
transportation
costs.
B
We
have
been
involved
in
conversations
related
to
changes
in
legislation
on
charter
schools.
In
many
cases
there
they
are
related
to
school
start
time,
conversations
for
charter
schools
that
we
have
more
control
over
that
to
be
very,
very
clear
since
that
was
a
hot
topic.
A
few
months
ago.
We
do
have
more
control
over
charter
school
start
times
than
people
believe
and
often
times,
charter
schools
work
with
us
to
provide
flexibility
in
terms
of
they
might
have
an
8:15
start
time.
B
I
B
To
be
clear,
it's
more
of
a
negotiation
between
the
district
and
the
charter
schools
in
terms
of
the
start
time,
and
if
we're
not
able
to
negotiate
on
that
score,
then
the
state
law
would
allow
us
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
when
the
charters
would
have
to
provide
their
own
transportation,
which
has
not
yet
happened.
It.
I
Hasn't
happened
yet
correct
and
I
don't
want
to
re-litigate
the
the
school
start
time
debate,
but
what
the
changes
were
put
before
the
school
committee
in
December
did
any
charters
star
does
start
or
end
times
change?
No
okay!
Thank
you!
So,
just
just
adding
up
the
cost
of
the
per
pupil,
multiple
and
then
looking
the
last
column
in
slide.
21
FY,
18,
cost
per
pupil
multiply
that
by
FY
18
students
it
would
appear
that
adding
those
figures
is
a
hundred
in
thirteen
point.
Seven
million.
So
is
that
nine
million
or
nine
and
change
million?
I
I
I
Mbta
things:
okay,
alright
and
then
again
with
the
private
sped
placement,
the
166,
your
point
that
it
is
a
small
percentage.
We
all
agree,
kids
need
to
get
the
services
they
deserve,
but
do
we
does
BPS
currently
take
any
students
from
other
districts
that
need
special
accommodations
that
we
can
satisfy?
Yes,.
B
I
Absolutely
yep
that's
great
and
who
provides
transportation
for
those
out
of
district
students
coming
in
district,
the
host
district.
The
host
district
does,
and
have
there
been
so
if
you've
got
one
kid
from
a
smaller
town,
you
know
that
we're
serving
at
Horace
Mann
there
wouldn't
be
a
bus
for
that
kid,
and
necessarily
not
necessarily
be
PS.
I
B
Some
cases
these
of
the
districts
might
be
using
transportation,
vendors
that
are
using
the
70
certified.
We
see
from
time
to
time
again.
That
would
not
be
an
effective
solution
for
us
system-wide.
It
might
be
an
effective
solution
for
us
when
we
consider
outlier
students
the
more
expensive
students.
However,
our
current
drivers
contract
does
not
allow
us
to
do
that
for
bps
students.
I
B
I
B
A
A
P
The
city
spends
approximately
5
plus
million
dollars
to
transport
children
back
to
Boston.
Almost
two
years
ago,
we
were
in
the
same
spot
before
you
discussing
the
transportation
for
our
students
who
experience
homelessness
at
this
time.
At
that
time,
bps
officials
told
us
that
they
had
hired
a
student
support
services,
transportation,
project
manager.
Who
was
going
to
manage
the
process
of
contacting
the
vendors
who
would
transport
the
children?
There
were
several
issues
that
were
brought
up
at
that
time.
There
were
vendors
that
were
overcharging.
P
There
were
vendors
that
were
charging
for
rides,
which
didn't
occur.
There
were
vendors
who
had
been
investigated
for
abusing
students,
one
particular
vendor.
There
were
extremely
serious
allegations
made
against
this
vendor
and
it
was
substantiated
at
what
one
of
his
drivers
had
done
to
a
bps
student,
which
result
resulted
in
legal
action
bps
at
the
time
discontinued,
using
that
particular
vendor.
P
P
P
Yesterday,
I
took
a
call
from
a
parent,
a
grandmother
living
in
Brockton.
Her
six-year-old
grandson
was
picked
up
6:00
in
the
morning
and
dropped
off
at
the
Trotters
school,
his
first
day
receiving
transportation
from
a
vendor
that
we
secured
to
bring
the
baby
back
in
from
Brockton.
He
was
dropped
a
little
before
7:30
at
the
Trotter
school
child
doesn't
go
to
the
Trotter.
The
child
goes
to
the
Higginson.
The
school
nurse
from
the
Trotter
called
the
grandmother.
P
Today,
I'm
before
you
again
to
appeal
to
you
to
ask
you
to
consider
recommending
as
a
council
that
the
Boston
Public
Schools
take
a
closer
look
at
the
process
that
we're
utilizing
to
transport
some
of
our
neediest
students
back
into
Boston's
and
at
least
have
a
conscious
and
ensure
that
these
children
are
going
to
be
treated
as
you
and
I
would
like
for
our
own
children
to
be
treated
I.
Thank
you.
A
Q
I
applaud
you
for
your
opt-out
program
and
I.
Think
that's
important
I
work
very
hard
to
get
my
families
who
are
not
using
the
buses
to
opt
out
of
it.
However,
what
I
would
like
you
to
think
about
in
that
opt
out
program
is
to
give
parents
the
option
to
opt
out
on
one
way
and
as
proposed
to
both
ways,
because
we
have
some
families
who
drop
in
the
morning
but
take
the
afternoon
bus.
Q
And
then
we
have
some
families
who
ride
the
bus
but
pick
up
in
the
afternoon,
and
if
they
have
the
option
to
drop
out
on
one
way
that
it
may
be
a
cost
saving
somewhere
along
the
way
for
that
so
and
that
currently
they
don't
have
that
option.
So
if
we
are
able
to
work
with
you
to
be
able
to
put
that
in
place
to
help
families
out
so
that
would
cut
down
on
the
cost,
for
us,
I
think
for
overall
transportation
choice
is
extremely
important.
Q
Having
my
experience
with
the
Boston
Public
School
as
an
employee
as
a
peon
as
a
grandparent,
when
I
went
as
a
student,
we
didn't
have
an
option
for
choice
of
what
school
we
went
to.
It
was
during
the
same
time
and
we
were
bused
to
where,
but
we
were
bused
too.
So
choice
has
been
extremely
important
for
us
to
have
as
a
family,
because
in
my
neighborhood
at
one
time
my
schools
were
not
considered
quality
schools
and
so
I
bust.
Q
My
children
to
schools,
where
I
felt
where
quality
schools
have
met
the
needs
for
my
individual
children.
So
I
think
that
choice
is
important
for
families
as
we
work
to
improve
and
provide
quality
schools
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
For
us,
our
students
and
our
children
I
think
it's
also
important
that
we
look
at
some
other
ways
to
cos,
save
because
I
think
it's.
The
system
has
worked
very
high
as
a
special
needs.
Q
Parent
I
have
worked
with
the
district
for
an
especially
at
pact
to
be
able
to
reduce
some
of
the
door-to-door
just
by
in
a
way
in
this
current
can
paint
which
is
really
important
about
talking
about
what
the
need
is
for
that
child
opposed
to.
What's
our
convenience
for
folks
and
I
think
we've
over
the
years
as
we
have
really
reduced
the
door-to-door
transportation
as
we
sit
at
IP
IEP
meetings
and
talk
with
families
about
that,
so
I
think.
If
we
continue
that
work,
you
will
continue
to
see
a
reduction
in
that
area.
Q
I
also
believe
that
it's
important
for
us,
as
we
work
with
families
that
are
experiencing
homelessness,
that
we
have
as
a
school-based
liaison
I,
see
a
number
of
things
with
my
families,
and
one
of
the
things
I've
seen
with
my
homeless
population
is
that
we
never
know
who
the
vendor
is.
Who
is
picking
up
the
children
at
the
school
level?
Sometimes
a
parent
doesn't
even
know
who
the
vendor
is.
Q
I've
had
situations
where
vendors
have
arrived
at
the
school
to
pick
up
children
without
a
letter
from
that
that
company,
with
no
ID
ID
from
that
company,
barely
speaking
English.
So
they
couldn't
even
tell
me
the
name
of
the
company,
not
even
knowing
who
the
children
were,
that
they
were
going
to
pick
up
so
the
same
standard
we
have
for
our
buses
that
are
picking
up
our
general
population
of
students.
We
need
to
have
for
our
homeless
families,
who
are
families
who
are
experiencing
homeless,
extremely
important
that
they
have
equitable
services.
Q
As
we
look
on
our
Aspen
system,
there's
no
way
to
determine
what
that
transportation
is
for
our
families
who
are
experienced
homelessness.
We
there
is
that
transportation
piece
in
there
and
we
need
to
be
if
we
assign
a
company
to
it.
That
company
needs
to
be
up
there
and
we
need
to
know
the
contact
information
for
that
company
so
that,
if
they're
not
on
time,
we
can
call
this
times
I'm
sitting
at
8
o'clock
at
my
school
waiting
for
somebody
to
pick
up
children,
our
regular
buses
are
late.
There
are
like
four
buses.
Q
We
have
at
the
Taylor
school
that
are
late
regularly
and
I've
talked
to
transportation
and
they'll.
Tell
you
and
I
have
a
transportation
liaison
Shelley
Carmichael,
who
is
phenomenal?
I,
don't
know
if
it's
like
the
same
at
every
school
but
I
know
I
were
very
high
with
her
to
get
the
transportation,
my
families
who
are
experienced
or
homeless
and
and
families
who
were
in
dire
need
of
situations-
and
she
works
real
well
with
us
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
in
place
for
our
families.
Q
So
I
want
to
give
her
kudos
on
that,
and
we
are.
We
are
a
school
that
I
have
over
50
families
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
and
so
that's
a
lot
to
manage
around
transportation.
For
them,
we
even
put
special
things
in
place
to
ensure
that
when
they
go
they're
not
on
a
VPS
bus
that
they're
taking
that
private
transportation,
that's
a
way
for
them
to
get
to
that
that
transportation
safely.
Q
What
I
did
that
about
maybe
10
years
I
did
a
training
in
the
summer
for
the
bus
drivers
to
ensure
that
they
knew
how
to
work
with
students
and
I
think
that's
extremely
important
as
we
move
forward
that
those
things
be
in
place
if
we're
putting
them
in
place
in
our
classrooms,
we
need
to
put
them
in
places
on
our
buses
and
I.
Think
that's
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Q
A
K
Good
afternoon
miss
George
and
members
of
the
City
Council,
my
name
is
Jessie
Kwan
and
I'm.
The
family
coordinator
at
the
Baldwin
Early
Learning
pilot
Academy
in
Brighton
I'm
also
very
fortunate
to
play
dual
roles
at
the
school
as
a
parent
as
well,
and
also
as
a
homeless
liaison
the
home
base
homeless,
liaison
our
grade
levels
range
from
K
0
through
your
students
to
7
year
old
students
to
1st
grade.
Our
budget
has
been
diminished
year
after
year,
and
yet
we
are
required
to
have
a
bus
monitor
for
all
Kaiser
students.
K
We
have
only
three
bus
monitors
out
of
eight
buses.
In
addition,
all
of
our
buses
are
equipped
with
seat
belts.
It's
a
roll
of
the
dice
depending
on
which
must
you
get
the
smaller
buses?
Are
the
half
buses
are,
but
not
the
full-size
ones,
and
now
that
I've
sat
in
this
meeting
with
this
information
I
understand
more
of
the
why
that
is,
but
it's
still
a
problem.
It
is
not
mandated
by
state
law
to
have
seat
belts
on
all
school
buses.
K
Now
I
asked
you:
will
you
jeopardize
the
safety
of
your
three-year-old
child
on
a
25
thousand
pound?
Moving
vehicle
at
30
miles
an
hour
without
any
safety
harness
or
a
bus
monitor.
Our
bell
times
are
from
7:30
a.m.
to
4:30
5:00
p.m.
at
what
that
translates
to
in
transportation
terms
is
that
we
are
the
first
bus
run
as
well
as
the
last
best
friend
in
the
entire
district
being
the
last
bus
run.
It
in
our
district
is
a
great
hardship
for
very
young
children,
because
buses
are
frequently
late.
K
How
would
you
feel
if
you
put
your
4
year
on
the
bus,
f,
631
a.m.
and
he
does
not
arrive
home
until
past
6
p.m.
on
a
regular
basis,
because
the
bus
is
chronically
late?
This
is
an
actual
student
in
our
student.
This
is
an
actual
student
in
our
school
and
the
parent
continues
to
fight
hard
to
ensure
that
attacked
that
the
school
bus
arrives
on
time.
We
have
technology
to
track
buses
now
an
ottoman
times
on
the
school
level.
K
We
see
that
the
buses
are
sitting
around
the
corner
for
20
minutes
before
they
arrive
literally
down
the
block
technologists
here
to
track,
but
no
one's
overseen
these
part
of
this
process.
So
what
our
students
do
is
simply
wait,
wait
and
wait.
I
would
also
like
this
time
to
speak
on
my
experience
in
advocating
for
a
family
with
homelessness.
Last
year
y
know
some
things
have
change.
Some
things
are
still
very
much.
The
same.
K
Last
year
we
had
a
sixth
year
student
at
our
school,
whose
family
move
four
times
in
the
course
of
six
months
due
to
the
placement
of
the
shelter
from
January
4th
2017
to
March,
8th
2017
bps
sees
providing
transportation
for
this
student
setting
vendor
issues
or
their
lack
of
change
of
address
the
current
protocol
for
families
to
change
the
address
its
to
show
too
prone
to
forms
of
proofs.
But
when
a
family
is
homeless,
they
don't
have
such
documents
as
utility
go
as
a
pay,
stub
or
a
bank
statement
when
families
are
in
transition.
K
This
is
not
something
that
they
have
and
the
urgency
of
their
situation
is
exacerbated
by
more
hurdles
navigated,
to
the
best
of
my
abilities.
By
going
to
bowling
doing
home
visits
talking
to
her
and
whoever
listen
to
me
to
help
this
to
fix
this
problem,
it
took
me
writing
to
mark
co-moh
to
get
things
done
and
I
know.
K
This
is
something
not
anyone
in
bps
once
because
it
gets
bad
press,
but
what
choice
am
I
left
with
and
John
actually
personally
called
me
right,
Emelia
after
that
email,
but
that
took
two
months
and
I'm
just
this
is
just
one
student
in
one
school
out
of
170
students
in
my
school,
so
I'm
a
proud
graduate
of
Boston,
Public,
Schools
and
I
believe
in
public
education.
Now,
won't
you
help
me
fight
for
the
safety
and
sanity
of
our
youngest
and
most
marginalized
students
in
our
schools.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
We
actually
had
4800
total
opt
outs
because
we
actually
do
allow
for
the
first
time,
I
think
in
the
last
year
for
families
to
opt
out
of
either
the
am
or
that
he
M
we
had
of
those
4800
2200
students
who
opted
out
of
both
AM
and
PM,
but
we
had
an
additional
whatever
that
is
400,
I,
think
students
who
only
opted
out
of
one
leg
of
the
day.
So
we
do
do
that
this
year.
Thank.