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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on February 8, 2021
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Docket #0296 - Petition for a special law re: An Act Relative to the Boston Landmarks Commission
A
B
B
C
C
C
A
And,
as
my
colleagues
join
I'll,
just
acknowledge
them
so,
um
okay,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I'm
city,
council,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
monday
february
8,
2021
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
0296
petition
for
special
law
regarding
an
active
re
act
really
relative
to
the
boston
landmarks
commission.
The
matter
was
sponsored
by
councillors,
kenzi
bach
and
councillor
liz
braden
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
february
3rd.
A
In
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12
2020
executive
order
we're
having
this
hearing
uh
via
zoom.
This
helps
us
to
do
our
jobs,
but
also
balance
the
public
safety.
It
will
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date.
On
february.
Excuse
me
on
xfinity
8
rcn82
verizon
964.
for
public
testimony.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee.
Email
at
ccc.go
at
boston.gov
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
A
A
um
This
will
amend
section
2
of
chapter
772
of
the
acts
of
1975,
as
most
recently
amended
by
section
11
of
chapter
3
to
373
of
the
acts
of
2018.
By
changing
the
definition
of
the
turned
landmark,
the
change
will
allow
for
local
resources
that
have
historical
significance
in
the
community
to
be
designated
as
landmarks
participating.
Today
are
carl
spector,
the
environment,
the
environment
commissioner,
roseanne
foley
executive
director
of
the
landmarks
commission,
lynn,
smilage.
A
I
apologize
smellage
smellage
thumbs
up
thumbs
up
if
I
guess
but
smileage,
chair
of
the
landmarks
and
craig
galler
gaylor,
I'm
hoping
I
got
that
right
from
the
executive
director
of
boston
preservation
alliance
and
allison
frazee
brazy,
possibly
assistant
director
of
the
boston
preservation
alliance.
The
committee
has
also
received
numerous
emails
supporting
the
homeworld
petition
and
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
for
those
who
will
not
be
participating
today,
we
did
receive
your
emails.
We
did
receive
your
phone
calls.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
us
know
your
opinion
and
again,
as
stated,
it
has
been
overwhelmingly
positive
and
supportive,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
lead,
sponsors,
counselor
bach
and
then
council
braden
when
she
comes
in,
but
for
now
just
want
to
list
who's
in
order
of
arrival.
um
Who
is
also
participating
with
us
here,
um
along
with
counselor
bach
and
council
braden,
there's
councillor
flynn
and
councillor
baker,
I
believe,
as
other
counselors
come
in,
I
will
announce
them
and
then
we'll
go
through
um
the
um
the.
I
guess.
A
The
order
of
questions
and
whatnot,
we'll
very
likely
have
all
of
our
guest
speakers
speak
at
once.
After
we
do
introductory
remarks,
therefore,
we
can
kind
of
get
the
entire.
I
guess
conversation
going
and
then
we'll
have
counselors
go
through
with
any
questions
they
may
have
for
the
lead
sponsors
or
for
any
of
our
guests
um
today,
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
public
testimony
and
make
sure
that
we
can
get
as
many
people
testifying
as
possible.
A
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
and
fellow
councilors
members
of
the
public
for
being
here
today.
So
this
proposed
homeworld
petition
emerged
from
a
lot
of
conversations
that
I've
had
um
over
the
past
year
and
before
with
um
preservation,
advocates,
uh
broadly
construed,
meaning
people.
You
know
across
our
neighborhoods
who
are
looking
to
preserve
some
of
boston's
history
and
in
talking
to
people
about
the
tools
that
we
have
and
um
and
the
ways
in
which
they
work
and
don't
work.
B
And
I
also
think
um
that,
and
it's
something
that
I
think
about
a
lot
as
a
historian
before
I
was
a
counselor,
is
just
about
the
importance
of
our
um
our
regulations
and
our
kind
of
government
attitudes
about
historic
preservation
catching
up
um
to
the
historical
field
and
one
of
the
things
the
historical
field's
gotten.
A
lot
better
at
since
1975
is
acknowledging
the
richness
and
diversity
of
um
history.
The
the
whole
field
of
immigrant
history
has
really
flourished.
The
um
the
uh
you
know
focus
on
african-american
stories
native
american
history.
B
I
think
that
um
this
change
can
be
a
piece
of
that.
So
um
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
something.
That's
gonna
automatically
landmark.
I
think
that's
one
thing
we
should
just
get
out.
You
know
on
the
table
here:
um
there's
the
whole
legislation
still
sets
up
a
process
for
people
to
go
through
to
pursue
a
landmark.
um
It
doesn't
kind
of
just
take
every
old
building
and
make
it
landmarked
or
something
I
know,
there's
some
concern
about
um
about
that.
B
B
So
I
think
um
I
would
love
for
this
to
be
something
that
we
could
move
through
the
boston
city
council
and
send
up
to
the
state
house
as
councilor
edward
said,
it
would
need
consideration
there
and
the
signature
of
the
governor,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
many
many
people
who
have
written
and
reached
out
and
frankly,
the
community
advocates
from
whom
this
idea
came
originally.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
D
D
E
E
E
You
know,
part
of
the
historic
designation
would
those
kind
of
be
grandfathered
in
and
get
basically
given
a
waiver,
I
should
say
or
what
that
process
would
be.
So
I
just
want
to
learn
more
about
this
proposal
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
about
councillor
braden
and
council
edwards
as
well.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
two.
The
two
lead
sponsors
on
this
important
issue
here
so
for
for
my
clarification
again,
I'm
here
to
listen
and
learn
to
see
what
it
is
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
so
so
we're
looking
to
have
the
city
of
boston
be
able
to
stand
alone
when
they
make
a
landmark
decision
and
and
that's
what
the
uh
section
to
the
change
in
section
two
um
is
is
going
to
do.
I
know
it's
a
statement,
but
kenzie
can
you
answer
that.
A
A
F
So
it's
it's
certainly
important
that
as
a
city,
we
are
able
to
exercise
local
authority
over
landmarks
to
preserve
our
rich
local
history,
and
it's
also
important
that
the
process
of
our
landmarks
commission
has
in
place.
You
know,
allows
for
them
to
do
a
thorough
vetting
and
it's
not
used
as
a
tool
to
to
slow
down
renovations
or
developments
or
bring
developments
to
a
grinding
halt.
F
A
Thank
you,
and
just
very
briefly
I
want
to.
I
also
thank
the
sponsors
and
my
colleagues
for
being
here
today.
You
know
I
see
this
as
really
not
an
anti-development
or
even
slowing
down
process,
as
so
much
as
a
pro
neighborhood
and
pro
city
pride
home
role
petition.
It's
about
how
we
can
amplify
how
every
single
one
of
us,
no
matter
where
we're
from
what
ship
we
came
on,
can
connect
to
some
aspect
of
boston
and
that
we
were
all
here
at
some
point.
A
I
I'm
beyond
excited
about
it,
because
I
think
it
really
helps
all
of
us
to
to
see
ourselves
more
in
the
city
and
to
preserve
how
we,
our
ancestors,
contributed
to
making
this
the
best
city
in
the
country.
um
I
also
wanted
to
just
note
that
um
you
know
there's
been
some
things
that
have
been
lost,
that
we'll
never
get
back,
because
I
think
people
are
confused
about
the
process
or
it
happened
too
late.
You
know,
east
boston
is
the
number
two
port
for
immigrants
in
the
country.
A
Only
behind
ellis
island
and
the
immigration
processing
center
was
torn
down
and
we
have
condos
where
that
is,
and
that's
painful,
to
know
that
we
didn't
know
to
value
that
until
it
was
already
gone.
um
Yes,
there
are
controversies
around
certain
aspects
and
whether
they'll
stop
development
or
not-
and
I
I
don't
want
this-
this
conversation
to
delve
into
that
that
is
not
about
uh
today.
A
B
B
The
legal
standard
that
they
have
to
make
the
decision
on
is
that
the
landmark
has
to
be
of
significance
to
the
state
or
the
nation
they
can't
if,
if
it
was
demonstrated
its
significance
to
at
the
city
level
like
that,
doesn't
clear
the
legal
standard
now
just
across
the
river
in
cambridge,
to
get
something
locally
landmarked
you
have
to
it
has
to
be
of
significance
to
the
city
of
cambridge.
So
this
isn't
like
a
crazy
thing
that
no
one
does
um
it.
C
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
go
to
our
panel
speakers,
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
each
one
and
then
we'll
just
have
you
all
speak
a
little
bit.
I'm
assuming
most
of
you
are
speaking
in
support
of
this
uh
this
proposal,
if
you
are
not
that's
also
fine
you're,
uh
welcome
to
give
your
your
take
on
this,
as
well
as
any
suggestions
for
language
or
things
in
other
ways
in
which
um
this
process
can
be
um
either
improved
or
um
and
which
made
the
homework
homo
petition.
A
Excuse
me
can
be
uh
changed
so
we'll
go
ahead.
I
know
that
just
just
noted
um
dan
murphy
is
here
from
the
beacon
hill
times,
but
I
don't
believe
he's
testifying
he's
just
watching,
but
he
didn't
sign
up
so
unless
he
is
planning
on
uh
testifying,
I
don't
think
so.
Just
hear
it
okay,
then
we
also
have
excuse
me
um
carl
spector,
from
the
environment
environment
commissioner,.
G
G
So,
um
yes,
we
are
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
um
of
the
uh
proposal
that
councilor
bach
and
councillor
braden
have
submitted.
I
want
to
uh
you
know,
absolutely
support
the
ideas
that
they've
already
presented.
You
know
from
our
point
of
view,
it
has,
in
addition
to
the
thematic
ideas
that
they
mentioned
council
edward
jewett
mentioned.
Also,
there
are
three
the
great
advantages
to
this
change:
small
as
it
is,
um
you
know,
first
of
all
it
I.
G
I
certainly
hope
it
provide
more
clarity,
because
it
has
also
often
been
confusing
about
exactly
what
the
standard
is
that
we
use
for
landmarks,
and
if,
in
the
process
of
passing
uh
this
this
proposal,
we
also
can
do
some
more
uh
education
of
the
community
of
the
neighborhoods
and
of
developers
about
the
standards
that
we
use.
That
is
all
to
the
good.
Also,
this
change
would
bring
us
would
give
us
more
consistency
already
in
the
state
of
in
the
city
of
boston.
G
We
do
do
some
historic
preservation
based
on
local
significance,
but
that
is
at
the
district
level.
We
have
architectural
conservation
districts
that
we
can
create
at
on
the
basis
of
local
significance
without
reaching
uh
the
level
of
state
significance,
and
we
don't
see
any
reason
why
that
level
of
of
um
eligibility
shouldn't
apply
to
individual
landmarks,
also,
so
that
we
will
have
a
consistent
standard
that
we
use
for
all
the
historic
preservation
that
we
do.
um
The
third
reason
is
efficiency
because
of
the
existing.
G
My
suggestion,
if
you
like,
uh
since
uh
councillor
flynn,
asked
some
questions
about
how
we
actually
go
about
the
process
of
finding
a
building
to
be
historically
significant,
perhaps
roseanne
foley
could
speak
next
and
give
a
very
quick
overview
of
how
we
go
through
that
process
and
add
any
additional
comments.
She
would
like
to
make
about
this
specific
proposal.
H
H
It
will
be
wonderful
to
have
locally
significant
landmarks
and,
as
carl
mentioned
right
now,
we
are
doing
single
property,
um
architectural
conservation
districts,
but
they
have
all
the
uh
they
go
through
the
same
rigmarole.
As
uh
you
know,
a
large,
a
large
district,
so
it'll
it'll
be
really
helpful.
H
The
way
that
landmarking
happens
is
that
a
petition
by
10
voters
registered
voters
comes
through
for
whichever
resource
it
is
that
folks
want
to
designate,
and
then
it
goes
before
the
commission.
They
either
accept
or
don't
accept
the
petition.
Then
there
is
a
it
goes
on
a
waiting
list.
It's
called
a
pending
landmark
until
we
get
the
resources
to
do
the
study
report,
that's
also
written
out
in
the
state
legislation
and
are
enabling
legislation.
H
H
uh
The
public
is
involved
in
the
study
report
process.
It
is
posted,
it
is
made
available
for
input,
and
the
voting
once
it
takes
place,
hopefully
in
the
affirmative,
would
go
to
the
mayor
and
then
the
city
council
and
then
finally
is
registered
at
the
registry
of
deed.
So
it's
not
a
matter
of
waving
any
kind
of
magic
wand
and
having
something
happen
immediately.
I
Thank
you
so
much
uh
councillor,
zbach
and
braden
for
bringing
forward
this
really
important
issue.
I've
been
privileged
to
sit
on
the
landmarks
commission
for
12
years,
11
of
those
as
chair,
and
also
in
the
four-point
channel,
local
historic
district
commission
and
the
study
committee
for
the
prospective
highland
park
conservation
district
in
roxbury.
I
So
the
boston
landmarks
commission
has
three
only
three
preservation
tools
that
we
can
use
to
protect
our
built
heritage
and
of
those
three
two
of
them
really
don't
work
too.
Well.
We
um
really
need
good
tools
now,
um
especially
today,
in
light
of
the
record-breaking
number
of
buildings
that
are
being
demolished
across
the
city.
I
I
So
just
briefly
mention
the
three
tools
I
know
we're
talking
about
landmarking
today,
the
first
one
um
carl
mentioned
the
local
historic
districts
like
the
south
end
district
back
bay,
beacon,
hill
fort
point
channel.
They
work
very
nicely
protecting
the
buildings
in
those
districts.
However,
they
take
years
to
put
in
place
it's
a
very
lengthy,
complicated
process.
I
Article
85
demolition
delay
is
our
second
tool
with
which
most
of
you,
I
think,
are
probably
familiar,
and
I
think,
there's
pretty
general
agreement
that
it
doesn't
work
at
all,
largely
a
waste
of
time
and
effort.
The
third
tool
is
landmarking
um
and
landmarking
is
tricky,
because
we
can
only
landmark
a
handful
of
buildings.
In
fact,
right
now
there
are
about
110
buildings,
landmarked
in
boston.
I
So
this
ambiguous
language
has
been
a
problem
for
a
while
since
1975.
In
fact,
these
handcuffs
have
made
it
nearly
impossible
to
achieve
equity
across
the
city,
which
has
already
been
noted.
A
diversity
of
worthy
buildings
that
are
meaningful
to
their
neighborhoods.
Just
can't
meet
the
bar
of
significant
beyond
boston.
I
A
J
We're
very
much
in
support.
We've
long
flagged
as
problematic
the
way
that
we
protect
our
historic
resources
that
play
such
a
critical
role,
not
only
in
the
economy
of
the
city,
but
in
the
social
health
of
boston
residents.
Every
boston
resident
should
be
able
to
see
themselves
in
our
city's
past
as
it's
reflected
in
our
physical
landscape.
Everyone
has
the
right
to
be
empowered
by
knowing
that
people
like
them
have
played
a
significant
role
throughout
boston's
history.
They
shouldn't
just
be
a
privilege
of
a
select
few.
J
It's
an
equity
and
an
honesty
issue
about
our
history.
That
needs
correction.
As
others
have
mentioned,
this
change
is
an
important
step
and,
as
you've
already
heard
from
others,
the
legislation
that
allows
the
designation
of
boston
landmarks
really
makes
no
sense.
Places
that
are
significant
to
boston
should
be
able
to
become
boston
landmarks.
That
would
be
logical,
I'm
in
regular
dialogue
with
peers
across
the
nation
working
in
historic
preservation
and
when
I've
mentioned
in
the
past,
this
odd
boston
restriction
on
landmarking
protection.
J
I'm
also
often
asked
if
I'm
kidding
like
really
are
you
serious,
because
this
isn't
how
most
cities
operate?
Just
this
morning,
I
emailed
colleagues
across
the
country
to
get
confirmation
that
local
significance
is
sufficient
for
them.
So
far,
I've
confirmed
this
case
in
a
number
of
cities
and
I'll
list
them.
Washington
dc,
los
angeles,
milwaukee,
san
antonio
fort
worth,
dallas,
houston,
providence,
baltimore,
denver,
chicago
cleveland,
new
orleans,
philadelphia
and
new
york
city
and
the
list
will
grow
as
I
get
more
responses.
This
is
not
a
radical
idea.
J
J
Our
current
system
is
simply
not
equitable,
as
places
associated
with
black
latinx
asian
lbgtq
histories.
Sadly,
don't
have
as
well
documented
national
frameworks
and
much
of
that
history
was
kind
of
by
the
nature
of
the
historical
plight
intentionally
kept
below
a
prominent
national
story
and
as
an
important
reminder.
Just
because
something
is
landmarks
doesn't
mean,
places
are
frozen
in
time,
never
to
be
changed.
The
preservation
community
supports
the
evolution
of
the
city.
J
We
just
ask
that
it
be
well
considered
and
that
changes
to
properties
considered
by
bostonians
to
be
particularly
important,
receive
extra
scrutiny
and
review.
Now
I
know
I
shouldn't
spend
any
more
time.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
couple
of
specific
examples
where
this
change
would
have
been
beneficial.
J
A
Thank
you
so
very
much
um
so
we're
gonna
go
actually
because
the
fact
that
we
have
um
some
people
signed
up
for
public
testimony
and
we're
almost
we're
at
four
thirty
six
they've
been
waiting.
If
it's
okay
with
the
lead
funds,
I'm
gonna
go
it's
not
that
many
people
they've
signed
up
to
go
ahead
and
let
the
public
speak
a
little
bit
trying
to
put
them
a
little
bit
um
towards
the
front,
and
then
we
can
go
through
a
round
with
the
counselors
okay.
A
A
B
A
K
K
I
volunteer
with
fenway
cdc
um
race
and
equity
has
been
at
the
first
and
foremost
for
this
past
year
and
um
it's
you
know,
caused
and
had
a
lot
of
pause
for
people
to
stop
and
think
what
I
would
say
about
this
as
a
layperson,
not
a
counselor.
Nobody
on
the
committees-
I
would
say
two
things
about
it,
and
one
is
that
when
we're
considering-
uh
and
this
might
have
more
to
do
with
the
language,
but
when
we're
thinking
about
a
piece
of
prop
property
is
a
landmark.
K
um
I
like
the
idea
of
some
true
equity
and
inclusiveness
of
people
of
color
and
many
different
cultures,
and
I
would
say
that
um
I
guess
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
the
whole
process
should
be
available
in
multi-language,
and
I
think
it
wouldn't
even
hurt
to
have
some
sort
of
campaign
um
on
on
this.
In
the
in
the
general
public
in
in
the
areas
of
roxbury
and
dorchester,
because
there's
people
like
myself
that
didn't
even
know
I
mean
I
knew
there
was
some
sort
of
a
landmark
committee.
K
But
I
didn't
know
they
selected
10
people
from
the
public
and
to
decide
on
that,
and
I
think
that
more
people
need
to
know
more
about
it.
Basically,
and
it
needs
to
be
all
inclusive
and,
as
a
community
member,
I'm
so
pleased
to
see
this
proposal,
and
I
really
do
hope
that
um
everything
is
transparent.
K
It's
done
in
a
way
that
is
truly
inclusive
thinking
outside
the
box
in
terms
of
getting
people
involved
that
want
to
see
their
their
cities
be
a
mirror
of
them,
so
inclusive,
true
equity
means
notifying
and
including
everybody
in
those
communities,
and
I
hope
that
the
paperwork
and
the
process
of
going
through
and
trying
to
get
one
uh
site
for
a
landmark
is
not
so
difficult
that
it
excludes
people
and
that's
people
of
different
cultures,
language
and
colors.
And
I
thank
you
and
I'm
in
full
support
of
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
L
Thank
you,
councillor
edwards,
uh
my
name
is
douglas
scala,
I'm
a
principal
of
epsilon
associates
and
I
work
with
the
landmarks
commission
staff
and
the
folks
at
the
boston
preservation
alliance
on
a
fairly
regular
basis,
so
we're
very
familiar
with
the
uh
article
85
process,
the
local
district
review
process,
as
well
as
the
landmark
current
landmarking
process,
just
curious
to
know.
If
there's
given,
if
there's
been
given
any
thought
to
how
the
transitioning
of
the
new
policy
would
take
place
or
if
that
would
be
part
of
a
future
discussion.
A
B
So
the
amendment
itself,
obviously
doesn't
it
doesn't
change
anything
about
the
process.
It
just
changes
the
standard.
um
I
think
that
uh
you
know.
I
think
that
counselor
flynn
had
also
raised
the
question
of
like
what
would
be
the.
What
would
there
be
a
transition
period
in
the
landmark
commission's
implementation
of
this?
um
And
I
would
imagine
um
I
mean
that's
something
I
think
that
we
should
discuss
the
law
on
its
face
is
just
going
to
say.
B
Oh
now,
the
standard's
different,
I
think,
probably
usually
it
would
be
typical
for
a
body
like
landmarks
to
kind
of
not
go
back
retroactively
on
things
that
we're
already
in,
um
but
I
think
I
think
uh
counselor
edwards
it
is.
It
is
a
question
for
us
to
discuss
and
I
know,
like
I
said,
counselor
edwards
bro
counselor
flynn
brought
it
up
too.
A
A
B
um
No
just
I
mean
I
appreciated.
I
think
my
questions
were
really
along
the
lines
of
um
uh
what
I
think
commissioner,
spector
and
uh
roseanne
and
lynn
have
already
spoken
to,
which
is
the
question
of
of
whether
this
actually
as
it
currently
stands,
creates
a
problem
for
the
landmarks
commission,
because,
obviously
you
know
we
don't
need
to
um
go
in
search
of
problems
to
fix
if
they're,
if
they're
not
there.
B
um
It
underscores
the
point
of
why
this
makes
sense
because
at
the
point
in
which
you're
doing
a
single
building
conservation,
district,
you're
sort
of
you're
using
one
tool,
because
the
other
isn't
suiting
the
purpose.
So
um
so
that
really
answered
that
question
for
me-
and
I
think
otherwise,
madam
chair
I'll,
yield
to
others,
and
I'm
happy
to
also
take
questions
from
others
if
they
have
one
for
the
author.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
I
have
one
question
in
one
comment.
um
I'll
start
with
my
question.
First,
um
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
this,
if
this
passes,
does
the
landmark
commission
as
we
go
into
the
budget
season
now
the
city
council
with
mayor,
but
if
this
passes
um
do
you
need
any
additional
funding
in
your
budget
to
make
these
changes
and
if
so,
um
what
do
you
think
you
would
need
to
hire?
G
E
Okay,
no,
I
I
appreciate
that.
um
I
think
it's
an
important
discussion
for
us
to
have,
especially
at
the
budget
at
budget
time.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
right
resources
and
tools
to
do
your
job,
so
that
was
the
reason
I
was
asking,
but
thank
you.
Thank
you,
carl
and
my
my
final
question.
E
J
Yes,
uh
thank
you
counselors.
um
As
someone
outside
the
city,
who
maybe
is
a
little
bit
more
liberated
to
speak
openly,
you
know
I
spoke
at
budget
hearings
last
year
that
you
know
our
opinion
is
very
clear
that
the
landmarks
commission
is
already
woefully
inadequately
funded
and
staffed
to
do
their
existing
work.
um
I
don't
think
this
inherently
makes
that
more
of
a
problem,
as
crown
noted
in
some
weird
tweaks
because
of
the
workarounds.
J
E
E
I
don't
want
to
see
something
implemented
where
we
don't
provide
the
necessary
resources
where
city
employees
can't
can't
do
their
job
effectively
or
we're
just
piling
on
more
work
for
our
dedicated
city
employees.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
funding
to
do
their
job.
So
that's
that's
an
important
aspect
of
it.
So
thank
you
and
then
my
final
point
is
to
holly.
E
Engagement
and
I'm
glad
you
highlighted
that
holly,
because
that's
an
important
important
part
of
it
and
I
think,
as
we
again
as
we
go
into
the
budget
season,
we
have
to
look
at
language
and
communication
access,
which
is
part
of
the
uh
part
of
the
city
city
of
boston
department.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
they're
fully
funded
as
well
to
make
sure
that
our
immigrant
neighbors
also
are
able
to
engage
in
all
kinds
of
basic
city
services.
So
thank
you,
holly
for
bringing
that
up.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
have
a
a
couple
questions
and,
if
we're
not
able,
it's
probably
for
you,
carla
for
you
roseanne,
and
if
we're
not
able
to
answer
them
through
the
chair,
if
you
can
send
them
to
my
email,
that
would
be
sufficient
I'd
like
to
know
how
many
parcels
or
buildings
that
we
have
in
the
process
right
now
throughout
the
whole
city.
That
would
be
one
in
the
process
right
now.
C
A
C
Are
in
the
are
looking
to
be
landmarked?
Are
there
any
buildings
right
now
that
are
looking
to
be
landmarked
in
the
city?
That's
question
one
and
two
would
be:
are
there
any
buildings
or
apostles
that
that
right
now
are
kind
of
holding
back
where
people
are
talking
about
it
that
are
waiting
on
a
designation
like
this,
like
this
change
here?
A
H
I
can
do
that
counselor.
um
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
there.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
um
single
property,
architectural
conservation
districts
that
are
pending
yeah
and
another
one
that
is
coming
through,
um
but
I
yeah
we
definitely
have.
You
know
we
can
get
to
the
numbers
on
pending
pending
landmarks
and
you
know
where
they
are
in
the.
C
C
Okay
and
then,
and
then
I
have
a
question
for
um
greg-
you
had
mentioned
the
two,
the
two
buildings
that
the
one
the
gateway
and
then
the
heat
street
brewery.
That's
behind
you.
What
are
what
are
the
significance
of
those,
and
I
mean
the
building
behind
you.
We
should
be
able
to
find
a
developer
that
will
repurpose
that
and
keep
that
building
the
way
it
is
it's
a
beautiful
looking
building.
So
can
you
talk
about
those
two
buildings
in
particular
and
what
what
was
the
significance
within
those
buildings
that
that
they
should
be
uh
designated.
J
um
Sure
I
mean
this
building
uh
was
one
of
a
series
of
breweries
in
the
neighborhood
there
were
some
innovative
technological
developments,
marketing
developments.
It
was
developed
by
a
german
immigrant.
That
has
a
really
interesting
story
uh
and
it
was
really
important
in
the
development
of
the
neighborhood.
um
So
that's
really
the
landmark
history
here
and
you
know
you're
right
that
this
would
be
a
great
building
to
be
developed
and
we
have
a
recalcitrant
owner
who's
sitting
on
it
and
it's
kind
of
doing
demolition
by
neglect.
J
J
uh
It
also
was
one
of
the
few
places
left
that
really
talked
about
the
history
of
kenmore
square
and
how
it
evolved
is
an
important
part
of
the
city
in
a
place
that
was
sort
of
a
little
bit
on
the
edge
of
the
city
at
one
point,
um
so
there
would
be
a
case
to
be
made
there.
At
least
there
would
have
been
opportunity
for
a
discussion
and
I
think
that's
an
important
part
of
this
change
is
you
know
when
people
say
what
have
we
lost
because
of
this?
J
A
lot
of
these
aren't
even
considered,
because
you
know
you
have
a
preliminary
conversation
and
say
I
wouldn't
make
the
standard,
because
it's
not
local
or
regional,
so
you
don't
even
have
a
robust
conversation
that
may
or
may
not
lead
to
landmarking,
and
sometimes
just
that
conversation
is
important
enough
to
have
to
get
a
developer
or
property
owner
the
city
to
look
at
something
differently.
We
don't
even
have
those
conversations
on
so
many
properties.
C
J
I
don't
have
all
the
details
in
front
of
me.
It's
last
use,
I
believe,
was
as
part
storage
for
some
automobile
making
uh
parts.
Yeah
it's
been
vacant
for
a
number
of
years.
The
current
owner,
I
believe,
has
held
it.
For
I
don't
know
five
to
ten
years.
I
don't
have
the
exact
number
and
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
counselors
and
a
number
of
developers
who
want
to
do
something
and
he's
just
sitting.
There.
C
J
C
I
think
there
should
be
some
sort
of
funds
there
available
for
that
person.
That
kind
of
happens
upon
that
they
they
buy
it
or
maybe
they're
in
the
process
of
buying
it
and
it
becomes
landmarked.
I
mean
I
think
there
should
be.
If
we're
asking
people
to
you
know
um
bring
something
back
to
its
original
character.
You
know
that
may
be
a
difference
of
you
know.
C
A
million
or
a
couple
million
bucks
is:
is
there
any
money
attached
to
any
of
this
for
people
that
that
you
know,
may
may
buy
these
properties
or
look
to
look
to
make
these
properties
better?
That's
just
a
thought,
maybe
for
the
group
and
moving
forward.
I
know
there
isn't
any
money
available,
but
it
should
be
something
that
is
attached
to
it.
So
those
are
my.
H
C
No,
I
know
but
roseanne
if
it's,
if
it's
free
design
services
to
take
a
single
family
and
turn
it
into
a
really
nice
single
family
instead
of
a
single
family
that
may
go
to
three
or
four
units
which
th,
which
the
person
that's
developing,
that
land
may
need.
Those
may
need
those
units,
so
it
might
be
a
little
little
more
than
just
the
design
services.
F
Yep,
thank
you,
man,
just
a
quick
question
about
the
existing
process
and
and
probably
to
roseanne.
I
think
roseanne
may
have
started
to
touch
on
it,
but
I'm
just
curious
to
see
whether
or
not
you
felt
that
you
know
this
would
lead
to
additional
applications
for
land
marketing
and,
if
so,
would
it
be
like
a
tsunami
would
would
you
have
the
resources
to
be
able
to
handle
the
flow
of
all
those
additional
new
requests,
for
um
you
know
to
enter
into
the
uh
the
existing
process.
H
Hi
counselor
flirty.
um
What
we
have
right
now
is
a
situation
where
people
submit
petitions
for
historic
properties
and
we
need
to
spend
staff
time
researching
and
going
through
and
then
finally,
after
a
month
or
a
month
and
a
half
come
up
with
the
the
sad
conclusion
that
it's
not
above
local
significance
and
sometimes
people
say,
can
you
can
you
please
look
again
and
it
turns
into
a
um
it's
still
a
time
drain
on
on
staff
to
go
through
this.
H
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
we're
still
looking
at
a
lot
of
these
locally
significant
resources
and
they're,
just
not
getting
to
the
next
level,
where
the
commission
gets
a
chance
to
see
them
and
vote
whether
or
not
to
accept
the
petition,
so
the
rest
of
it
I'll
leave
to
um
others
like
greg
to
uh
respond
to,
but
um
but
yeah.
So
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time
for
naught.
F
It's
interesting,
so,
yes,
is
there
an
existing
like
registry?
If
you
will
of
uh
of
sort
of
commission
approved
landmarks
or
in
the
event
that
I
mean
it
seems
as
though
like
it
seems
like
the
triggering
event,
the
triggering
event
for-
and
this
could
just
be
my
vantage
point
and
you
roseanne-
you
have
a
front
row
seat
for
it,
but
it
seems
like
the
triggering
event
for
the
inquiry
is
it'll,
be
a
proposed
redevelopment
or
it'll
be
a
sale
of
a
particular
property.
F
Then
all
of
a
sudden,
everyone
gets
all
up
in
arms
and
they
all
are
curious
as
to
what's
going
to
happen
and
what
is
the
new
organ?
What
is
the
new
owner
going
to
do
and
they're
going
to
preserve
this
they're
going
to
preserve
that?
Are
they
going
to
tear
it
down
et
cetera?
That
seems
to
be
sort
of
the
the
impetus
for
the
inquiry
and
I
guess
the
question
is:
do
we
have
the
ability
um
to
sort
of
have,
I
guess
our
own
sort
of
boston
registry?
F
F
It's
already
been
through
the
process,
the
vetting
process
that
it
is
a
landmark
situation.
It
seems,
though,
and
then
I
go-
you
go
from
development
to
development
issue
development
issue
across
the
city
as
an
at-large
counselor,
and
it
seems
as
though
that
that
event,
um
the
notice
of
the
sale
and
or
the
uh
proposal
that
gets
submitted
is
the
triggering
event,
and
I
was
just
curious
to
see
whether
or
not
we
have
the
ability
to
kind
of
be
way
ahead
of
that
process.
A
J
Thank
you
counselor.
It's
actually
interesting,
because
the
the
two
questions
are
surprisingly
related
um
in
in
council
authority.
You
raise
a
very
good
point
and
something
we've
been
raising
for
a
while.
Is
you
know
in
boston?
We've
been
managing
this
very
poorly
in
part
again,
because
the
landmarks
commission
is
understaffed
and
underfunded
um
that
we
should
be
more
proactive
instead
we're
playing
whack-a-mole
and
that's
really
not
how
landmarking
should
work.
um
We
shouldn't
be
waiting
until
someone
proposes
something
for
property
for
some
people
to
suddenly
say.
Oh,
my
gosh,
that's
important.
J
We
should
be
protecting
it.
We
should
be
ahead
of
the
curve.
We
need
to
be
updating
our
surveys
across
the
city.
Many
of
the
surveys
of
historic
resources
are
old
and
don't
address.
The
very
issue
we're
talking
about,
which
is
uh
what
counselor
bach
mentioned
early
on.
Is
that
what
we
look
at
is
significant
in
history
today
whose
stories
it
represents,
who
it
says,
are
not
reflected
in
the
inventories
of
historic
resources
from
20
30
40
years
ago.
They
just
don't
look
at
places
the
same
way
and
whose
stories
so
that's
number
one.
J
We
should
be
getting
more
ahead
of
it.
So
it's
not
the
situation
that
you
explain
and
it's
unfortunate
the
way
it's
working
a
lot
that
people
are
fortunately
are
desperate
and
have
to
wait
uh
because
they
don't
know-
and
that's
not
fair,
not
only
to
neighborhoods
and
residents
and
not
it's
not
fair
to
property
owners
or
developers,
because
they
look
at
a
historic
property.
We
hear
all
this
time.
It's
like
they
buy
a
building,
it's
not
listed
anywhere.
Why
should
they
think
it's
significant
next
thing.
J
J
I
mean
legally,
this
is
not
considered
a
taking
um
that's
been
upheld
in
the
court
for
years,
but
we
want
to
be
more
transparent
with
people,
and
that
means
we
should
be
understanding
our
historic
resources
which
are
landmarkable
which
are
not
which
neighborhoods
care
about,
as
well
as
which
have
issues
related
to
climate
change
and
resiliency
in
historic
properties.
We
should
be
doing
all
that
at
once,
and
that's
something
that
the
city
should
be
looking
in
a
robust
way
to
deal
with
the
challenge
you
raise.
A
A
F
F
H
F
I
think,
obviously
the
question
is
is
uh
is
how
we
can
work
together
to
make
sure
that
the
uh
landmarks
is
um
is
sufficiently
uh
funded
to
allow
um
new
folks
to
do
um
the
job,
that's
necessary
to
um
to
identify
the
appropriate
sites
and
parcels
and
buildings
etc,
and
then
also
um
and
then
to
greg's
point
to.
Obviously
the
credibility
standpoint
is
that
you
know
the
building
behind.
F
You
has
been
there
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
now
thrust
into
this
situation
because
of
again
potential
sale
or
what
have
you
and
obviously
that
version
repeats
itself
across
the
city
and
from
a
credibility
standpoint.
You
know
very
much
like
when
folks
feel,
like
the
cake
is
baked
um
with
certain
development
projects.
F
Same
can
be
said
for
folks
that
are
advocating
for
a
building
to
be
landmarked
so
that
they
don't
get
accused
of
just
coming
out
of
the
woodwork
to
stall
something
or
to
prevent
something
or
because
they
don't
like
the
new
owner
or
etc.
I
think
making
sure
that
you
guys
have
the
resources
to
again
be
on
the
front
end
of
this
as
opposed
to
sort
of
playing
catch
up
and
being
brought
in
and
then
having
people
sort
of
question
the
timing
of
it,
etc.
I
think
that
would
go
a
long
way.
F
um
You
know
on
the
transparency
front,
but
again
you
know
we
as
counselors
were
out
there
across
the
city,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
um
you
know
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
faith
and
confidence.
um
You
know
in
in
the
development
process
uh
and
or
in
situations
like
this
and
you
know
by
having
the
lines
of
communication
and
that
the
transparency
is
critical.
F
M
A
Also
when
it
comes
to
that
conversation,
we
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
greg
and
all
the
other
folks,
especially
during
budget
season.
um
I
think
what
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
is
um
examples
of
how
historic
uh
preservation
and
development
work
together.
You
know
we.
This
is
the
conversation
that
I
think
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
take
back
to
my
district.
You
know
um
that
uh
when
people
come
and
to
set
realistic
expectations,
you
know,
if
you're
coming
here
as
just
a
a
whack-a-mole
trying
to
stop
any
form
of
development.
A
So,
okay,
it's
too
big,
okay,
fine!
Then
it's
historically
present.
Okay,
fine!
Then
it's
in
uh
it's
by
the
marsh
okay!
Fine!
It's!
But
you
know,
then,
that's
not
that's
not
what
I'm
trying
to
encourage
to
give
another
tool
to
just
come
up
with
something
to
stop
something.
You
don't
like
that
being
said.
um
When
there
has
been
the
beautiful
building,
such
as
the
one
behind
you
and
the
developer
does
buy
it.
Are
there
examples
of
the
marrying
of
the
two?
So
that's
one
question
I'll
put
up.
A
A
One
of
the
biggest
concerns
is
as
as
we're
creating
a
larger
modern
community
center
someplace
else
in
the
north
end.
What
do
we
do
with
those
buildings
right?
So
um
the
big
push
is
not
to
have
it
become
just
luxury
condos
right
and
so
again,
when
we
go
to
have
sit
down
and
have
this
conversation,
we
had
a
bunch
of
amazing
uh
kids
from
architectural
school
boston
architecture,
society
students
come
in
and
design
it
a
community-led
design.
But
how
do
we
marry
that?
A
How
do
we
have
that
conversation
and
it
speaks
to
the
organizing,
which
is
my
third
point-
that
we
need
to
do
um
when
it
comes
to
historic
preservation?
uh
We
we
definitely
are
trying
to
preserve
a
lot
of
people
and
stop
displacement,
but
the
destruction
of
our
buildings
deserves
a
grassroots
movement
as
well.
That
is
diverse,
it's
multilingual
um
and
that
is,
um
it
is
well
funded.
A
It
should
be
a
grassroots
movement
for
preserving,
what's
beautiful,
about
our
neighborhoods
um
and
then.
Finally,
in
terms
of
funding,
I
would
I
would
love
to
hear
how
cpa
money,
since
historic
preservation
is
part
of
one
of
the
line
items
that
it's
allowed
to
be
used
for
again.
Another
example
of
counselor
box
leadership
before
she
was
on
the
city
council
she's
from
that
campaign
as
well.
But
um
uh
how
would
this
help
I'd
assume
getting
some
landmarks
uh
designation
for
some
some
buildings
or
some
projects
or
some
areas?
A
Would
that
help
with
cpa
money
and
m
applications?
So
I
say
it's
four
buckets.
uh
One
is
what's
good
examples
of
historic
preservation
and
development,
just
a
noted
to
council
bigger
than
azar
center
and
then
the
other
two
cpa
money
being
used
for
designated
property
and
then
also
community
organizing
for
historic
preservation
to
get
out
there
and
find
these
landmarks
before
they're
up
for
failed
to
get
out
there
and
be
excited
about
their
neighborhoods.
I
I
know
again,
council
back,
you
did
it
on
the
environmental
component
with
the
conservation
corps.
A
I
don't
know
this
conservation
corps
could
include
a
set
of
folks
who
are
out
there
for
historical
purposes
as
well.
So
those
are
my
um
my
my
thoughts
um
um
to
I
think
greg
you
initially
physically
moved.
I
assumed
you
had
some
thoughts
on
it
and
then
I'll
go
to
roseanne,
lynn
and
um
and
and
carl,
if
you
wanted
to
respond.
J
Great
thank
you
counselor
good
question.
um
I
just
quickly
jotted
down
a
quick
list
of
some
projects
that
demonstrate
the
wonderful
marriage
of
historic
preservation
and
new
development
and
often
affordable
housing.
I'd
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
preservation
alliance
website
and
many
of
the
projects
we've
awarded
over
the
years,
uh
but
just
to
list
a
few
uh
there's,
the
uh
substation
in
roslindale.
That's
an
affordable
housing
project
right
in
roslindale
square
with
historic
boston
inc,
which
has
done
a
number.
J
uh
The
ditson
mills
and
jim
make
a
plane
uh
mission
hill
right
down
the
street
from
this
one
uh
that
was
done
by
uh
wind
development,
that's
in
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
and
our
national
experts
on
affordable
housing
in
historic
resources
that
are
based
right
here
in
boston.
uh
The
goddard
house
is
housing
in
a
former
historic
building,
a
nursing
home
san
gabriels
and
brighton.
J
There's
a
lot
of
projects
downtown
in
north
station
many
buildings-
you
probably
know
I
won't
list
fort
point-
is
a
local
historic
district.
There's
been
a
lot
of
development
there.
You
know
some
of
those
could
have
done
have
been
done,
affordable
as
well
as
commercial,
uh
the
baker
chocolate
factory,
the
lofts
down.
There
are
the
combination,
affordable
in
market
rate
and
affordable.
J
The
other
thing
to
note
is
these
are
wonderful
opportunities,
because
there
are
historic
tax
credits
both
on
the
state
and
the
federal
level
for
historic
resources
and
affordable
housing,
tax
credits.
So
a
project
like
this
uh
councilor
baker,
if
you're
still
on,
could
get
uh
40
in
affordable
housing
and
another
percent
back
in
in
light
tech,
affordable
housing
uh
in
addition
to
the
stork.
um
So
that's
just
some
examples.
There
are
many
many
more.
J
As
far
as
cpa,
I
think
that's
a
good.
I
mean
there
are
two
buckets
in
cpa
that
can
work
on
a
lot
of
these
projects
again
affordable
housing
and
historic
preservation,
and
I
think
it
would
be
wonderful
if
the
cpa
committee
could
get
some
signals
that
they
should
be
prioritizing
those
sorts
of
projects.
This
would
be
a
wonderful
cpa
project
um
that
could
draw
from
two
buckets
and
there's
there's
endless
numbers
of
them
um
as
far
as
the
community
organizing
piece
you're
right.
J
This
is
a
discussion
we've
been
having
internally
about
trying
to
get
people
in
the
community
to
work
with
us
to
identify
places
that
are
important
to
them.
Those
questions
have
not
been
asked
enough.
We
have
started
a
class
called
the
advocate
certificate
training
program
where
we
try
to
teach
people
in
the
communities
about
the
historic
preservation
regulations,
so
they
can
better
advocate
for
themselves
and
work
more
collaboratively
with
us
and
the
landmarks
commission.
J
We
all
work
better
when
we
hear
from
the
community
what's
of
concern
to
them
and
how
we
can
do
a
better
job,
protecting
that
um
collaboratively
collectively
that
we're
not
coming
in
from
the
outside
and
telling
them
what's
important,
but
we
worked
together
to
understand.
What's
important
to
them
and
then
it's
a
much
better
process
for
all.
So
hopefully
that
answered
your
questions.
D
And
I
think
it
would
be
unfair
to
increase
the
workload
without
increasing
the
staff
to
help
dealing
with
it.
So
I
wonder
if
that
that
may
have
been
discussed
in
my
absence
and
if
it
has,
I
apologize
um
I'm
very
excited
about
the
idea
of
community
organizing
around
having
our
communities
identify
buildings
and
locations
in
there
in
the
neighborhood
that
have
meaning
and
significance
for
them
from
a
historical
perspective,
uh
whether
it's
from
particular
particular
ethnic
communities
or
or
um
or
whatever.
D
G
Counselor,
if
I
may
comment
on
that,
just
very
every
very
briefly,
um
so
in
terms
of
budget
as
as
you
all
know,
this
is
budget
season
and
I
will
be
uh
you
know
we
will
be
discussing
with
our
colleagues
in
the
in
the
budget
department
the
the
needs
for
fy
22
of
the
environment
department,
including
the
landmark
staff.
So
I
will
certainly
take
this
information
back
to
my
conversations
uh
you
know
with
with
the
uh
the
budget
department.
G
uh
You
know
that
uh
you
know
one,
but
when
we
get
the
word
um
that
it's
important,
we
can
make
that
happen
working
with
our
colleagues
in
the
office
of
language
access,
and
we
do
have
an
excellent,
a
quarterly
newsletter
that
the
environment
staff,
landmark
staff
puts
out
about
the
work
that
they
are
doing,
and
we
are
obviously
there's
more
and
more
to
do
and
we
can't
do
enough
of
it.
But
um
you
know
to
spread
the
word
that
we
do
have
these
resources
available,
plus
a
lot
of
resources
on
our
website.
A
B
B
But
I
think
it's
also,
I
think,
when
people
talk
about
the
things
they
love
that
are
new
in
a
city,
so
often
they
actually
are
a
case
of
repurposing
right.
It's
that
kind
of
it's
not
just
change
like
we
raise
everything
to
the
ground
and
put
new
things
there.
It's
the
fact
that
we
actually
get
to
kind
of
evolve
the
uses
of
things
and
um
and
overlap
things
with
each
other
and
have
things
adjacent
to
each
other
like
that
is
part
of
the
wonderful
diversity
of
the
city's
built
environment.
B
And
if
you
thin
out
all
of
the
historical
resources,
then
you
don't
end
up
with
that
um
kind
of.
You
know
augmented
diversity
over
time,
um
so
you
really
have
to,
and
the
problem
of
course
is
like
people
are
usually
pretty
good
about
saving
the
building,
that's
300
years
old,
but
they're
bad
about
saving
it
when
it's
100
years
old
right.
B
But
counselor
edwards
is
giving
me
that
look
because
I've
gone
on
too
long.
um
But,
just
let
me
say
one
more
thing
which
is,
which
is
that,
um
yes,
we
will
talk
about
this
in
budget
season.
We
have
to
be
more
proactive,
it
is
also
a
part
of
equity.
It's
the
same
way
that
if
you
only
fix
the
street
lights
in
response
to
311s,
you
serve
the
people
who
are
best
on
the
app.
B
If
you
only
do
landmarking
in
response
to
10
citizen
petitions
that
people
mainly
who
are
speak,
english
and
cetera,
are
like
more
prepared
to
do.
You
won't
landmark
immigrant
history
like
so
you
you
have
to
be
proactive.
We
have
to
be
looking
at
a
city-wide
survey.
We
have
to
be
staffing
our
existing
landmarks
backlog.
All
of
that
people
will
hear
more
from
me
in
the
future.
In
terms
of
this
fix,
this
fix
is
about
giving
the
city
of
boston
the
ability
to
preserve
the
city
of
boston's
history.
B
N
N
Those
are
folks
who
are
predominantly
well
educated
and
well
connected
what
has
been
missing
for
years,
and
it
was
something
that
was
regressing
to
make
a
horse
and
it
transitioned
whatever
age
it
probably
hands
or
or
it's
going
to
be
pga
or
dnd
review.
Is
it
a
large
billboard,
people
at
that
party.
N
The
second
piece
of
that
is
to
actually
fix
the
internal
process,
so
dnd
isd
and
vra,
don't
start
talking
about
a
particular
project
before
it
comes
to
us
too
often,
we
are
still
lagging
in
the
dark
and
that's
going
to
get
fixed.
This
does
not
fit
that.
That's
in
that
stuff,
all
we're
changing
the
90
days,
the
most
delayed
three
year
or
two
years
because
it
started
actually
invite
to
it.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
A
M
M
um
Second,
is
that
fenway,
where
I
live?
I
live
on
mass
avenue.
Fenway
is
a
largely
historic
neighborhood
and
um
I
certainly
would
not
want
to
see
as
sometimes
gets
proposed
on
on
uh
streets
like
burbank,
and
you
know,
there's
a
a
building
with
glass
or
something
else
that
ruins
the
historic
nature
or
is
too
tall
and
so
on.
M
However,
when
they
sold-
or
I
guess
least,
for
a
hundred
years,
the
property
on
dalton
street
to
30
dalton
and
one
dalton-
that
completely
changes
the
perspective
of
what
one
sees
from
fenway
when
one
looks
to
the
east-
and
I
think
both
of
those
were
mistakes,
if
you
will
done
for
monetary
purposes,
for
the
city,
but
not
considering
the
neighborhood
and
there's
no
affordable
housing,
of
course,
in
one
dalton,
they
moved
at
all
into
the
intersection
of
south
end
in
roxbury
and
or
maybe
no
I'm
sorry.
That
was
a
different
one.
M
That
was
the
petersboro
buildings
that
are
going
up,
and
we
have
to
be
very
careful
with
those
at
kilmarnock
and
and
petersburg
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
ruin
that
section
of
the
fenway
but
affordable
housing
and
renovation
of
historic
buildings
would
be
a
terrific
way
to
go.
And,
lastly,
although
I
am
not
an
expert
on
architecture
or
historical
buildings
or
construction
and
costs,
and
so
on,
we
in
district
8
elected
an
unbelievably
wonderful
and
knowledgeable
city
councilor.
Thank
you
very
much
kenzie,
and
I
trust
you
to.
M
A
Thank
you,
so
I'm
gonna
just
again
announce
those
folks
who
are
um
on
public
testimony
who
who
may
want
to
testify
if
you
want
to
raise
your
hands
right
now.
That
way,
I
know
to
call
on
you
other
than
that.
We're
going
to
conclude
if
I
don't
get
any
hands
raised,
I'm
going
to
conclude
today's.
I
think
very
efficient
and
very
good
hearing
on
this
home
rule
petition,
because
I
want
more
than
anything
to
be
able
to
move
this
along.
I
didn't
hear
too
many
suggestions
for
any
language
changes
as
it's
very
slight.
A
What
we're
doing
more,
like
a
grammatical
change
in
making
sure
the
city
of
boston
has
a
seat
at
the
table,
so
I
don't
know.
Normally
I
do
a
hearing
than
a
working
session
where
we
go
into
the
language
deeper
into
the
language
uh
and
then
uh
go
into
a
um
into
the
uh
then
we
conclude
or
excuse
me.
Then
we
go
to
a
vote,
but
again
I
guess
this
is
like
a
common
and
kind
of
situation.
It's
it's
really
slight.
A
I
think
in
in
the
change
in
language,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
will
need
a
full-on
working
session
I'll
check
with
the
sponsors,
though,
to
make
sure
of
that
to
the
public.
If
you
have
any
language
suggestions
right
that
that
warrant
us
going
deeper
into
the
conversation,
I'd
really
appreciate
that
you
go
ahead
and
make
those
suggestions
christopher.
I
see
you've
raised
your
hand
again.
I
normally
reserve
this
for
people
who
haven't
spoken
yet
and
so
other
other
than
unless
you
have
a
language
suggestion.