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Docket #0246 - Hearing to address the changes to the Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) that the vaccine mandate created
B
B
I'm
joined
here
today
by
my
colleagues,
councilor
aaron
murphy
at
large,
and
also
the
sponsor
of
this
order.
Councillor
ed
flynn,
district,
two
and
council
president
councilor
ricardo
arroyo,
district
five
councillor,
julia
mejia
district
at
large,
councilor,
frank
baker,
district,
three
and
councillor
rutsi
louis
also
at
large,
also
be
reading
an
absence
letter.
In
a
moment
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
fios
channel
964..
B
B
B
Obviously
when,
when
we
take
our
oaths
promised
to
obey
the
city
charter
and
the
city
charger
has
charter,
has
an
exclusion
in
17g
that
section
of
the
charter
that
says
that
the
council's
not
meant
to
be
involved
in
the
making
of
contracts
or
the
employing
of
labor
on
behalf
of
the
city,
and
so
it
always
creates
a
a
little
bit
of
a
complexity.
When
we
want
to
talk
about
an
active
bargaining
matter
like
this,
and
I
think,
there's
good
public
policy
reasons
for
the
council
to
be
able
to
hold
hearings
like
this.
B
But
when
we
hold
them,
we
kind
of
structure
them
in
a
way
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
appear
to
be
open
negotiation
sessions
and
that
this,
the
counselors
are
not
bargaining
on
behalf
of
the
city
because
of
that
charter,
language.
So
the
way
that
today's
hearing
will
run
is
we'll
hear
first
from
the
administration,
dr
bisola
ojakutu
who's.
The
executive
director
of
the
boston
health
commission
is
here
and
we'll
have
counselor
questions
for
her,
and
then
we
will
move
to
a
panel
of
representatives
of
our
municipal
bargaining
units,
a
number
of
them.
B
I
also
have
some
written
testimony
from
municipal
bargaining
units
which
I'll
be
reading
into
the
record
for
that
panel.
Counselors
will
so
counselors
will
ask
questions
on
the
administration
side.
Counselors
will
not
ask
direct
questions
of
the
labor
panel
because
again,
if
the
concern
that
the
dialogue
creates
an
appearance
of
negotiation
on
behalf
of
the
city,
that's
been
our
practice
on
similar
matters
before.
B
I
do
have
a
letter
to
read
from
the
administration.
As
I
said,
we've
been
joined
by
dr
ojikutu
to
explain
the
bphc
side
of
this
matter,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
the
active
negotiation,
the
office
of
labor
relations
sent
us
a
letter
declining
our
invitation.
So
I'll
just
read
that
into
the
record
now
february:
11th
2022,
dear
chairwoman,
bach,
thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
testify
at
today's
hearing
regarding
docket
0246,
a
hearing
regarding
moas
and
vaccine
mandates.
Unfortunately,
I
must
respectfully
decline
your
invitation
as
the
director
of
labor
relations
for
the
city.
B
I
cannot
disclose
confidential
matters
such
as
collective
bargaining
strategies
or
objectives
at
a
public
hearing.
The
administration's
utmost
responsibility
is
to
maintain
the
health
and
safety
of
our
workforce.
We
will
continue
to
negotiate
in
good
faith
with
our
collective
bargaining
partners
to
ensure
that
result
respectfully
tammy
pust,
director
of
the
office
of
labor
relations.
B
I
also
want
to
read
an
absence
letter
that
I
received
from
a
colleague,
counselor
michael
flaherty,
at
large
february
11th
2022,
dear
chairwoman,
bach.
Unfortunately,
I
am
unable
to
attend
today's
hearing
on
docket
0246.
I
will
review
the
video
and
testimony
submitted
into
the
record,
I'd
like
to
reiterate
my
support
for
the
continuation
of
a
weekly
testing
option,
as
well
as
my
opposition
to
and
concerned
about
a
vaccine
mandate
policy
that
causes
people
to
lose
their
livelihoods
and
careers
for
non-compliance.
B
We
know
that
vaccines
are
critical
part
of
our
covenant,
19
public
health
response,
reducing
the
likelihood
of
severe
illness,
hospitalizations
and
death.
We
also
know
that
testing
is
also
a
valuable
tool
that
allows
us
to
track
contract,
trace
and
quarantine
infected
individuals
to
reduce
the
spread
of
cobit
19..
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
my
colleagues
and
the
administration
to
help
our
city
recover
from
the
covet
19
pandemic.
B
B
Or
at
michael.flaherty
boston.gov,
sincerely
michael
flaherty,
boston,
city
counselor
at
large,
so
that
that
will
be
entered
into
the
written
record
as
well.
I
want
to
so
for
counselors
who
are
here,
because
we
have
the
administration
come
here
and
there
is
some
time
constraint:
I'm
not
going
to
do
full
opening
statements.
C
So
I
want
to
start
by
saying
I
understand
that
the
vaccine
is
drastically
proven
to
reduce
hospitalizations
and
severe
disease,
and
I
do
applaud
the
administration's
effort
to
increase
the
number
of
city
employees
getting
vaccinated,
and
you
know
we
have
the
highest
vaccination
rate
across
the
country
or
pretty
close
to
it.
So
I
applaud
that.
I
encourage
all
residents
who
haven't
been
vaccinated
to
go
to
one
of
the
many
sites
that
are
still
open
across
the
city.
C
To
make
sure
you
know
that
you
you
are
vaccinated,
it
is
important,
for
you
know
the
health
and
the
welfare
of
our
city,
but
I
know
this
is
a
controversial
subject
and
there
are
strong
emotions
on
both
sides,
but
I'm
holding
this
meeting
so
that
we
can
have
a
forum
so
that
we're
able
to
discuss
the
facts
and
have
the
opportunity
to
have
all
sides
heard,
and
I
strongly
encourage
that
we
conduct
this
hearing
in
a
respectable
way.
Even
if
we
don't
agree-
and
we
have
different,
differing
opinions.
C
Another
question
I
have
is
why,
a
few
months
ago,
under
mayor
janey,
when
we
signed
an
moa
with
the
city,
employees
was
testing
an
option
and
it
was
safe.
Then,
so
I'm
wondering
what
data
are
we
using
now
if
we're
determining
that
testing
isn't
an
option
for
our
public,
our
city,
employees
and
also
my
question-
is
what
impact
did
this
change
to
the
moa
have
on
our
city?
Employees,
and
did
the
unions
have
an
opportunity
to
sit
down
and
negotiate
these
changes?
C
B
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
murphy.
I
think
we'll,
like
I
said,
with
counselors,
we'll
go
straight
to
questions
after
we
hear
from
doctor
kutu.
So
dr
kutu,
you
you
know
the
floor.
I
think
this
is
oh.
I
know
I
must
be
wrong.
Have
you
come
to
a
council
hearing
previously
or
is
this
the
first?
I
think.
D
This
is
my
first
right:
I've
come
to
council
meetings,
so
I've
reached
a
number
of
the
city
councillors
good
to
see
you
all
again
well
welcome
to
the
version.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
good
morning,
everyone
good
morning,
chairperson
bach
and
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
dr
bisolo
ojukutu.
D
So
earlier
this
week,
mayor
wu
announced
the
current
be
together.
Proof
of
vaccination
requirement
for
indoor
dining,
entertainment
and
fitness
spaces
would
be
lifted
when
the
following
conditions
are
met
and
those
conditions
are
that
we
would
have
fewer
than
95
of
icu
beds
occupied
and
as
of
our
most
recent
data,
we
have
an
occupancy
rate
below
that
threshold,
so
at
89
percent.
D
So,
as
of
our
most
recent
data,
our
community
positivity
rate
is
7.4
and
that's
down
from
a
high
of
32.7
in
the
first
week
of
january.
So,
as
I
said,
I
am
optimistic.
Things
are
trending
in
the
right
direction
and
based
on
our
current
projections,
I
anticipate
that
all
three
of
these
thresholds
will
be
met
in
the
coming
weeks.
D
As
many
of
you
all
know,
and
have
talked
about
it
at
least
I've
spoken
to
you.
Vaccines
are
just
a
critical
component
of
this
pandemic
of
getting
through
it,
and
we
know
that
they
are
safe.
They
are
a
very
effective
way
to
protect
ourselves,
particularly
from
severe
hospitals
to
severe
illness
and
hospitalization
and
death,
as
well
as
the
long-term
effects
of
kobe,
which
can
be
devastating
and
certainly
include.
D
You
know
things
that
you
all
have
heard
of
in
terms
of
long
covered,
like
fatigue,
cognitive
disorders
and
and
other
you
know,
long-term
effects
that
we
all
would
like
to
avoid.
I
think
that
vaccines
are
the
most
important
tool
that
we
have
to
prevent
copenhagen
transmission
and
spread,
and
certainly,
as
I
said,
incredibly
important
in
terms
of
severe
illness
and
hospitalization.
D
I'd
also
like
to
highlight
some
of
the
disparities
and
ongoing
concerns
regarding
inequity
in
our
city,
while
I'm
able
to
so
black
residents
are
one
of
the
lowest
vaccinated
racial
groups
in
the
city
at
only
69.5
percent,
fully
vaccinated
compared
to
75
percent
of
white
non-hispanic
residents.
And
if
you
look
at
that
data,
black
residents
have
accounted
for
a
disproportionate
number
of
cobin
19
related
deaths,
and
we
recognize
that
this
is
not
solely
due
to
low
vaccination
rates.
There's
certainly
underlying
issues.
D
In
early
december,
we
hosted
a
number
of
free
walk-in
vaccine
clinics
in
neighborhoods,
with
low
vaccination
rates
and
known
high
barriers
to
access
and
we've
supported,
twice
weekly
walk-in
vaccine
clinics
at
city
hall.
We've
also
expanded
hours
at
our
neighborhood
clinics
to
support
working
families
who
can't
take
time
off
to
get
vaccinated
during
the
day,
and
we
work
really
closely
with
the
city
workforce,
the
city
staff,
to
increase
their
access
to
vaccination
clinics,
and
the
commission
is
also
working
closely
with
our
state
partners
to
make
initial
doses
and
boosters
just
more
accessible
across
boston
city-wide.
D
I
think
it's
also
important,
because
testing
is
a
critical
part
of
the
strategy
that
we've
ramped
up
testing
access
by
standing
up
new
testing
sites
in
communities
with
high
positivity
rates
and
barriers
to
purchasing
rapid
test
kits.
So
essentially,
you
know,
as
I
said,
with
this
multi-layered
strategy.
We've
been
increasing
access
to
vaccination,
increasing
testing
as
well
as
encouraging
masking
and
other
mitigation
strategies
to
you
know,
respond
effectively
to
the
pandemic.
D
And
while
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
important
role
of
the
employee
vaccination
requirement
in
increasing
vaccination
rates
and
preventing
severe
illness
from
cover
19
among
city
employees
and
those
that
they
serve
really
the
scope
of
my
testimony.
Here
today
is
limited
to
public
health
data
and
information
that
inform
these
decisions
in
regards
to
like
the
metrics
and
the
things
that
I've
just
spoken
about.
D
So
I
guess
I'll
conclude
by
saying:
there's
reason
for
optimism
right
now
and
in
regards
to
the
metrics
that
we
are
following,
but
I
don't
want
to
you
know
say
that
we're
totally
out
of
this.
Obviously,
you
know
I
want
to
you
know,
encourage
some
caution
and
continued
use
of
the
mitigation
strategies
that
I've
mentioned
through
testing,
increasing
vaccination,
boosting
as
well
as
masking
and
so
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you
to
the
committee
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
testify
today
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
doctor
coutu,
so
I'll
now
go
to
counselors
in
order
for
questions
and
I'll
just
remind
counselors
to
keep
it
to
five
minutes.
If
you
hit
that
time
I'll
raise
your
always
my
gavel,
so
you
can
visually
see
and
if
we
need
to
go
to
a
second
round,
we
will
and
the
order
is
I'll
defer
mine
to
the
end
counselor
murphy.
Then
president
flynn
council
arroyo
councillor
mejia
councillor,
baker,
counselor
louis
jen,
and
I
think
I
neglected
to
mention
before
that.
B
C
Thank
you.
I
know
I
in
my
opening
statement
I
kind
of
touched
on
some
of
the
questions,
but
I'll
reiterate
those
you
know
this
meeting,
hoping
is
to
provide
a
forum
other
than
protesters.
You
know
outside
to
share
our
concerns
and
ask
questions
to
get
some
good
answers
here.
So
my
first
question
would
be
about
the
metrics
we're
using
and
what,
if
we're,
moving
in
and
out
of
a
red
in
yellow
zone,
how
is
that
going
to
affect
our
city
employees?
C
If
they're
saying
like
we
have
to
meet
all
three
metrics
and
also
what
data
are
we
using?
I
know
when
looking
on
the
website,
the
public
health
website
they're
not
being
updated
often,
so
how
often
are
those
metrics
being
updated
that
we're
going
to
be
using
to
determine
employ
our
city
employees
being
able
to
come
to
work
or
not
so.
D
D
In
terms
of
your
question
about
moving
from
red
to
to
yellow
the
idea
is
that
the
reason
that
we
are
you
know
in
this
red
zone
is
a
combination
of
factors.
So
it's
about
the
fact
that
you
know
our
your
resources.
Our
healthcare
infrastructure
is
very
stressed,
meaning
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
on
our
care
system
and
we're
using
icu
bed
capacity
to
measure
that
and
that's
over
nine
hospitals.
D
The
nine
you
know
sort
of
major
hospitals
in
boston,
and
so
we
thought
that
that
was
a
good
measure
because
we
saw
it
fluctuating
and,
yes,
it
has
dipped
lower.
So
it's
underneath
95
percent,
which
is
great
that
that
means
our
is
that
there's
a
sense
that
our
our
our
health
care
system
is
under
less
pressure.
D
As
I
mentioned,
it
was
quite
high
at
32.7
percent.
Now
it's
it's
gone
down
significantly
and
we're
continuing
to
see
it
trend
down.
The
interesting
piece
of
that
is
that
we're
also
looking
for
correlations
in
the
the
viral
wastewater,
which
we
believe
is
a
good
and
has
been
validated
as
a
good
surveillance
measure.
You
know
across
massachusetts,
specifically
we're
getting
some
data
from
from
boston
so
that
we
can
have
some
a
better
sense
of
exactly
where
we
are
in
terms
of
the
pandemic.
D
So
we
really
do
think
these
metrics,
as
well
as
the
others,
because
we
certainly
look
at
other
factors.
We
look
at
pediatric
hospitalizations.
We
look
at
bed
capacity,
we
look
at
you
know
number
of
tests
performed.
There
are
many
different
factors
that
I
think
go
into
understanding
where
the
pandemic
currently
is
throughout
the
city.
So
I
hope
that
helps
at
least
understanding
how
we're
looking
at
this
we're,
certainly
not
just
focused
in
on
any
one
thing.
I
don't
think
any
one
metric
is
going
to
help
us.
D
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
block
and
thank
you
doctor
for
being
with
us
doctor
mike.
My
question
is
you
know:
we've
been
dealing
with
covert
now
for
two
years
I
actually
held
the
first
meeting
public
meeting
in
the
country
when
covet
first
came
out
in
january
2020
at
the
jose
quincy
school.
I
guess
my
question
is
for
for
city
employees
that
may
have
contacted
or
been
exposed
to
covert
trusted
positive
equivalent.
E
D
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn.
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point.
So
long
covid,
which
is
what
you're
talking
about,
is
a
complex
entity
that
I
don't
think
medical
experts
fully
understand
at
this
point.
There
is
evidence
that
you
know
covet
can
impact.
You
know
all
organ
systems,
so
I
think
I
mentioned
in
my
opening
statement,
cognitive
issues,
but
certainly
ongoing
lung
problems
ongoing
heart
issues.
D
These
are
all
things
that
that
we
know
do
happen
in
a
in
a
subset
of
individuals.
There
is
evidence
to
suggest
that
vaccination
decreases
the
risk
for
severe
long-term
cova,
because
I
think
we
we're
looking
at
long-term
probit
as
a
spectrum.
Not
just
you
know
one
sort
of
thing,
so
the
commission
is
actually
a
part
of
a
group
of
a
coalition
across
the
city.
That
is,
you
know,
working
on
a
study
to
look
at
long-term
covet,
particularly
in
boston
city
residents.
It's
multi-multiple
academic
centers.
The
commission
has
been
at
many
of
the
meetings.
D
I
was
in
academia
still
in
academia.
You
know
sort
of
prior
to
taking
this
role
and
was
involved
in
sort
of
coordinating
some
of
that
work.
So
that's
something
that
we're.
Obviously,
you
know
it
has
to
be
something
that
we're
focused
in
on
in
regards
to
what
we
do
you
know
for
employees.
Certainly,
our
occupational
health
refers
people
to
pcps,
tries
to
help
people
get
access
to
care.
You
know
when
they
report
a
positive
test
when
there's
a
highly
suspected
case.
That's
that's
all
part
of
our
process,
but
I
agree
with
you.
D
We
need
to
be
very
mindful
of
the
fact
that
this
isn't
over
when
we
get
to
a
positivity
rate,
less
than
five
percent
or
lower
than
that
there
will
be
these
long-term
consequences
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
and
be
planning
for
and,
like
I
said,
those
the
studies
I
think
that
are
ongoing
are
going
to
be
incredibly
important.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
up
that
issue.
E
B
A
Thank
you.
I
just
have
two
questions.
The
first
one
you
you
may
have
the
answer
to,
or
you
may
not,
which
is,
since
the
vaccine
mandate,
has
gone
into
place.
Do
we
have
the
data
for
how
many
additional
vaccinations,
whether
in
percentage
or
actual
number,
have
been
taken
since
then,
and
then
two
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
vaccinations
or
testing?
D
So,
thank
you.
Councillor
arroyo
another
great
question.
Absolutely
this
is
a
multi-layered
strategy.
You
can't
do
one
or
the
other.
You
need
to
be
testing
and
people
who
are
irrespective
of
their
vaccination
or
boosted
status.
They
need
to
be
testing
the
only
way
that
we
will
understand
the
progression
of
the
pandemic
over
time
to
even
understand
again.
If
there
are,
you
know,
new
issues,
new
variants
understand
what
may
happen
in
terms
of
repeat
in
infections
and
immunity,
immune
evasion
and
all
the
sorts
of
things
that
we're
very
concerned
about.
D
We
saw
a
pretty
steep
increase
in
in
uptake
and
then
by
january
18th
we
had
about
17
increase,
and
that
was
in
the
first
week
and
a
half
or
so
of
implementing
this
policy,
that's
something
that
was
seen
similarly
in
new
york
city
when
they
implemented
the
policy.
I
don't
know
that
that's
you
know
it
looks
like
that
is
not
necessarily
I
mean
we
can
look.
D
We
can
look
at
the
data
over
time
and
kind
of
see
like
what
the
trend
will
be
and
kind
of
like
what
is
actually
going
to
happen,
but
we
definitely
did
see
an
uptick
we
have
been
looking
at.
You
know
whether
or
not
we
should
be
doing
surveys
of
people
when
they
come
in
for
their
first
shows
to
figure
out
what
motivated
them.
You
know
what
what
specific
thing
actually
made
them.
D
You
know
come
in
at
this
point
in
time
to
to
be
vaccinated
after
you
know
many
many
months
of
of
having
access
to
vaccinations
so
we're
working
on
it.
I
think
that's
you
know
it's.
It's
obviously
our
our
interest
to
know
what
is
it
that
triggers
people
to
to
be
vaccinated,
but
we
did
see
that
that
increase
that
increase
in
uptake
of
new
backs
new
people
getting
vaccinated.
B
F
Yes,
good
morning,
I
just
have
two
questions
from
what
I
understand
covet
was
the
leading
cause
of
death
among
law
enforcement
in
2021,
and
I'm
just
curious.
What
more
do
we
need
to
do
to
ensure
that
our
officers
are
not
contracting
covet
or
spreading
it?
And
then
the
next
question
that
I
have
is
for
city
employees,
who
have
been
out
of
work
due
to
covert
or
lost
someone
to
covet.
It
could
be
a
very
traumatic
experience
and
I'm
just
curious.
What
are
we
doing
to
provide
mental
health
services
to
city
employees
during
the
pandemic?.
D
So
two
two
really
great
questions
and
thank
you
counselor
mejia.
So
I
think
that
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
what
I
was
saying
before
about
the
idea
of
using
a
multi-layered
strategy.
You
know
our
city
workforce
is
largely
vaccinated.
I
mean
I
believe
that
the
percentage
is
95
vaccinated,
so
many
people
have
gotten
vaccinated.
We
offered
vaccination
trying
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
people
to
get
vaccinated.
So
certainly
that's.
That's.
D
That's
an
important
leading
strategy
to
address
these
issues
that
you're,
referring
to
in
terms
of
decreasing
severe
illness
decreasing
decreasing,
hospitalizations
and
death.
But
on
top
of
that
we
need
to
provide
people
with
appropriate
ppe
or
masking
you
know
and
encourage
understanding
of
the
best
ways
to
mask.
D
I
mean
you
need
to
have
a
well-fitted
mask
over
the
mouth
and
nose
and
where
we
ordered
a
large
supply
of
of
surgical
medical
grade
mass,
as
well
as
higher
grade
respirator
mass
of
the
kn-95s
and
those
need
to
be
provided
to
our
direct
service
providers.
Specifically,
you
know:
law
enforcement,
ents
emts,
everybody
who's
going
to
be
in
direct
comp
contact
with
the
public.
It's
really
critical
and
the
other
thing
again
going
back
to
testing
testing
is
an
important
mitigation
strategy.
You
know
if
you
have
been
exposed
or
you've.
D
You
know
you
know
that
you're
going
to
be
in
a
space
where
there
are
going
to
be
people
who
are
at
risk.
Certainly
testing
beforehand
is
important
and
certainly
isolating
yourself
or
quarantining
if
you've
been
exposed,
is
critical
so
emphasizing
those
strategies,
I
believe,
is
incredibly
important
in
terms
of
mental
health
issues.
That's
an
incredibly
important
piece
of
the
puzzle
here,
as
we
think
about
how
to
continue
to
manage
covet.
As
you
know,
it
becomes
endemic
and
you
know
we
have
decreased
rates.
You
know
we.
D
Hopefully
you
know
we
should
have
been
doing
this
all
along
in
terms
of
you
know
addressing
mental
health
needs,
and
I
know
that
this
is
one
of
the
priorities
of
this.
This
administration
and
we've
been
working
on.
You
know,
sort
of
a
city-wide
mental
health
initiative
that
I
think
is
going
to
be
very
important.
Looking
at
you
know,
not
only
you
know,
workplace
issues,
but
certainly
community
issues
in
regards
to
mental
health,
because
I
think
that
that
is
an
incredible
unmet
need
within
our
within
our
communities
city-wide.
D
So
I
think
it's
an
important
need.
We
do
refer.
People
for
mental
health
supports
certain
departments,
have
peer
support
efforts
that
are
that
are
moving
forward,
but
I
think
what
we
need
is
really
a
coordinated
effort
to
ensure
that
these
issues
are
amplified
in
our
response,
and
that's
that's.
What
we're
working
on
now
and
the
commission
is
is
very
much
so
involved
in
that
process.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
for
highlighting
that,
and
we
will,
you
know,
move
forward
with
it
with
those
efforts
going
forward.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
dr
ojikutu,
thank
you
for
joining
us
today,
sorry
that
they
threw
you
in
the
middle
of
the
fire
all
alone.
Here,
I'm
gonna
be
very
respectful
to
you,
nice
to
see
you
today.
Well
a
couple
other
things.
It's
amazing
to
me
the
amount
of
work
that
this
administration
and
this
council
have
put
in
behind
trying
to
not
have
this
conversation.
G
G
G
Can
you
as
much
as
you
can
talk
to
us
about
the
decision-making
process
around?
How
did
how
did
acting
mayor
janie
get
to
that
decision
and
then
also?
How
did
this
mayor
get
to
this
decision?
She
she
made
knowing
full
well
that
that
these
decisions
were
not
brought
up
in
front
of
the
the
public
health
board.
There
was
no
discussion
around
them
in
in
december
january
february.
So
as
best
as
you
can
answer
those
two
questions
for
those
that
question
decision
making
process
can
you
can
you
talk
to
me
about
that?.
D
So,
thank
you,
councillor
baker,
so
I
actually
wasn't
involved
in
the
process
that
you
described
so
I
started
my
job
in
september
and
I
don't
know
who
who
was
at
the
table
per
se,
but
I
actually
have.
I
don't
have
any
insight
to
offer
to
this
discussion
about
about
that.
What
I
can
say
is
you
know.
I
have
regular
meetings
with
mayor
wu,
mayor's
team.
D
G
D
No
that
that
so
the
so
the
board
of
health
is
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
the
board
of
health
provides
oversight
of
the
commission,
and
so
the
board
of
health
is
has
been
briefed
on
this
situation
and
they
are
aware
of
what's
happening.
We've
had
multiple
meetings
with
them.
Our
last
meeting
was
january
12th,
where
we
were
briefed
on.
They
were
briefed
on
all.
I
briefed
them
on
all
active
orders
issued
under
that
march
2020
health
declaration,
as
well
as
any
related
litigation,
so
they
were
definitely
briefed
on
on
the
issue.
G
Okay,
so
can
you
talk
a
little
about
three
matrix
that
we
have
it's
95
percent
icu
beds
and
when
and
when
this
was
early
on
in?
In
you
know
the
first
phase,
I
guess
of
covered
when
we're
having
full-on
discussions
with
the
administration
and
with
public
health
which
the
such
discussions
that
have
not
happened
with
this
administration.
G
The
talk
around
one
of
the
big
things
for
us
was
to
make
sure
that
the
health,
the
hospitals
and
healthcare
industry
was
not
overloaded,
which
is
why,
when
we're
in
when
we're
in
the
throes
of
this,
we
were
standing
up,
failed
hospitals
and
the
like.
So
if
it's
95
icu
beds,
I
know-
or
I
think
and
if
you
can
explain
it
to
me
in
boston-
we
don't
operate
from
100,
so
95
icu
beds
does
not
mean
that
we
only
have
five
percent
left.
Is
it
130
percent
that
we
operate.
D
Can
you
explain
that
a
little
bit
yeah
so
these
are
non-surge
beds,
so
that
means
that
we
haven't
entered
surge.
Yet
surge
is
when
you
hit
100,
though
some
hospitals
will
go
into
surge
under
100
percent.
We
I
we
indicated
and
and
gave
95
percent
that
the
designation
of
threshold,
so
that
we
would
have
a
buffer
to
mobilize
any
efforts
to
increase
icu
bed
capacity
if
we
were
dealing
with
a
severe
pandemic
and
severe
variant
as
we
were,
you
know
earlier
on
in
the
pandemic,
so
there
is
definitely
surge
capacity.
D
D
G
D
So
that
is,
that
is
boston
residents,
so,
but
it
does
so
it's
community
positivity
is
boston
residents.
It's
the
people
who
tested
positive
over
the
people
who
test
and
that's
across
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
If
you
look
on
our
dashboard,
we
also
provide
positivity
by
neighborhood.
So
you
can
look
at
that.
You
can
also
look
at
case
rate
by
neighborhood.
Again
we
look
at
things
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
make
sure
we
have
the
best
advice
to
offer
in
regards
to
the
pandemics.
G
G
G
G
Because
I
think,
along
the
lines
of
of
counselor
arroyo's
questioning,
he
said,
17
of
people
were
vaccinated.
Is
that
the
17
percent
of
say
the?
And
I,
for
some
reason
I
I
want
to
say
1800
people
is
that
17
of
the
1800
people
were
vaccinated
or
do
we
get
17
more
percent
of
city
of
boston
residents,
vaccinated.
D
G
Okay,
okay,
I
can
I
I
can
wait.
I
can
wait
on
that.
I'd
like
to
see
I'd
like
to
see
what
the
the
vax
mandate,
what
what
the
number
or
the
percentage
of
people
that
you
know.
So,
if
we're
95
vaccinated
now,
do
we
get
a
5
bump,
a
three
percent
bump
or
something
like
that?
Not
don't
necessarily
need
a
whole
lot
of
detail.
So
what
are
the?
What
are
our
metrics
we're
using
to
finally
allow
our
city
to
start
and
again
it's?
G
I
guess:
it's
not
going
to
be
a
new
normal,
that's
what
everybody
likes
to
say,
we're
living
with
this.
What
are
the
metrics
when
we
ca
as
a
city
can
say:
okay,
we're
at
those
and
and
at
that
point,
when
we
hit
those,
does
the
passport
mandate
for
restaurants
drop?
What
happened
again?
This
isn't
even
a
question
for
you,
because
it's
a
labor
question
and
I
and
our
head
labor
person
is
not
here.
Does
that
drop?
What
do
what
do
we
do?
D
So
I
let
me
start
out
by
saying
that-
and
I
I
I
just
want
to
emphasize
this-
that
it's
not
just
about
any
three
metrics.
Certainly
we
look
at
those
as
indicators
of
improvement.
You
know
if
we
get
below
the
threshold,
we
are
really
doing.
What
I
believe
is
a
robust
analysis
of
all
the
data
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
boston
residents
safe.
I
mean
that
that's
really
our
goal
as
a
public
health
commission.
D
So
you
know
we
have
six
key
metrics
and,
as
I
mentioned,
we
also
look
at
citywide
vaccination
rate.
We
look
at
viral.
You
know
wastewater.
We
look
at
lots
of
different
factors.
The
three
that
I
mentioned
that
tell
us
a
lot.
They
give
us
a
lot
of
robust
information
are
the
percentage
of
icu
beds
that
are
occupied,
and
that
tells
us
a
lot
about
our
our
our
health
care
system
and
the
pressure.
D
That's
on
our
health
care
system,
there's
coven
19
hospitalizations,
which
tells
us
some
about
the
severity
of
illness,
but
then
also,
it
helps
us
understand
how
our
health
care
system
is
being
impacted,
and
those
two
pieces
are
incredibly
important
for
our
survival
in
this
pandemic
and
then,
thirdly,
community
positivity
rate.
So
we
want
to
know
what's
the
transmission,
how
much
how
much
coverage
is
there
out
there
and,
interestingly,
you
know:
community
positivity
is
very
highly
correlated
with
some
of
the
viral
wastewater
data,
which
is
a
more
it's
a
better
surveillance
metric.
D
So
it's
telling
us
a
lot
about
what's
happening
in
our
city
and
that's
why
those
three
metrics
were
hot,
have
been
highlighted
and
are
really
the
ones
that
we're
following.
But
a
lot
of
these
metrics
again
are
they're
correlated
and
we're
following
everything,
because
that's
we
want
to
be
data
driven.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
really,
you
know
doing.
What
we
think
is
is
right
and
giving
giving
the
appropriate
advice
to
our
leadership.
Our
you
know,
administration.
G
Well,
I
mean
I
think
data
can
be
manipulated
any
way.
We
want
to
tell
the
story
that
we
want
and
to
use
the
same,
the
same
matrix
that
were
in
place
in
2020,
I
think
is
it
in
and
of
itself
disingenuous
because
the
omnicron
and
it's
and
it's
gone
through
my
family.
We
had
covered
at
the
beginning
of
of
21
and
it
came
through
again
into
in
december,
we're
all
vaccinated.
Only
two
of
us
out
of
four
of
us
fought
it.
So
for
me
the
vax
worked,
I'm
also
a
long,
I'm
also
a
long-timer.
G
I
had
blood
clots.
I
actually
had
two
strokes
in
march,
two
of
them
and
a
whole
host
of
problems.
So
so
this
is
about
decision
making
here
doctor,
I
wanna
know
who
was
in
the
room
when
we
decided
to
to
take
rights
away
from
business
owners,
take
rights
away
from
from
our
from
our
from
our
workforce
and
and
start
making
decisions
down
on
mass
and
cast
and
then
point
to
a
to
a
two-year-old
health
declaration.
I
just
find
it
disingenuous
and
I'm
not
directing
that
at
you
you're
the
only
one.
That's
here.
G
D
Okay,
so
maybe
let
me
let
me
start
by
saying
that
so
the
date,
the
thresholds
and
the
data
that
I'm
I'm
telling
you
about
have
since
been
validated,
we
don't
keep
number
it
wouldn't
make
sense
for
as
you
could,
you
wisely
stated
to
look
at
data
from
early
on
in
the
pandemic
and
then
use
the
exact
same.
You
know
threshold
goals,
whatever
we've
actually
been
validating
that
data
and
correlating
it
to
other
data,
so
that
we
understand
exactly
what
these
data
mean
in
this
new
context
of
omicron.
D
The
other
piece
to
this
is
that
I
think
that
it's
really
important,
as
we
move
forward,
to
continue
to
validate
our
data,
to
continue
to
keep
things,
keep
other
things
in
mind.
I
don't
think
that
any
you
know
it's.
It's
really
one
of
those
situations
where
you
have
to
look
at
the
entire
context
of
the
pandemic
and
keep
in
mind
this
sort
of
data-driven
approach,
which
I
I
do
feel
is
important
in
terms
of
updated
data.
D
So
what
I
gave
you
you
know
like,
I
said
we,
we
do
pull
up
data
from
twice
a
week
and
what
I
would
say
is
that
what
I'm
providing
you
is
the
most
updated
data
that
has
been
released.
We
did
have
some
data
that
came
in
yesterday
evening
and
it's
it's
more
in
this.
You
know
positive
in
in
terms
of
the
actual
numbers
those
data
will
be
updated
later
today.
D
So
I'm
so
I'm
I'm
giving
those
to
you
right
now
so
yeah
so
with
7.4
community
positivity
we're
now
at
6.9,
community
positivity.
So
again
a
decrease
of
3.7
or
you
know
a
difference.
Excuse
me
of
1.2
percentage
points.
If
you're
talking
about
hospitalizations
so
covet
hospitalizations,
it
was
it's
now
343,
which
is
a
26
decrease.
D
Again,
that's
great-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
to
you
that
we
had
been
seeing
this
trend
and
we
expect
to
continue
to
see
that
trend
and
then,
in
terms
of
occupied
icu
beds,
that's
been
fluctuating
so
now
we're
at
90.
So
it's
it's
a
fluctuating
sort
of
metric,
but
that's
why
we
set
a
goal
and
we
hope
that
it
it
stays
below
that.
So
that's
that's
the
information
that
I
that
I
have
to
offer
today.
So.
G
We're
trending
in
the
right
direction.
Thank
you,
doctor
and
kenzie.
My
last
point
is
I
don't
I
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
ask
questions
of
our
people
that
that
our
label
people,
we
don't
need
to
ask.
We
don't
need
to
ask
about
contracts,
I've
known
tigers
for
35
years.
I
can't
ask
him
about
his
members
it.
It
doesn't
seem
right
to
me
just
a
point.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor,
baker.
The
the
reason
for
the
for
that
approach
is
that
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
comfortable
position
for
the
chair
to
tell
counselors
question
by
question
what
they
can
and
can't
ask.
So
that's
why
the
general
approach
has
been
to
say
like
blanket
we're
not
asking
questions,
but
it's
like
I
said
I
will
operate,
offer
an
opportunity
for
mom
and
after.
G
B
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
dr
ojokotu,
and
thank
you
to
the
labor
panel
for
all
being
here
for
two
questions.
One
is,
you
know,
I
think
around
the
numbers.
When
we
talk
about
those
hosts
hospitalized
with
kovid,
I
know
there
was
some.
There
was
some
discussion
even
in
the
profession
about
what
that
number
means
is
that
people
who
you
know
the
main
the
thing
that
they're
being
treated
for
primarily
when
they're
in
the
hospital
is
covered,
or
they
are,
they
come
to
the
hospital
for
dialysis
and
they
have
covid.
H
Are
we
making
a
distinction
between
those
numbers
when
we're
when
we're
reporting
those
who
are
hospitalized
with
covet,
and
just
if
you
can
give
us
your
take
and
your
opinion
on
that
distinction?
And
the
second
question
is,
is
I
think
you
know
the
pandemic
for
almost
all
of
us
caught
everyone
flat-footed,
and
so
you
know,
and
I'm
grateful
now
that
we're
we're
experiencing
this.
You
know
which
we
seem
to
be
coming
out
of
a
surge
and
that
the
mayor
is
having
these
talks
with
unions.
D
Thank
you
counselor
louis
john.
I
appreciate
both
of
those
questions.
I
think
I
can
answer
from
the
public
health
perspective
on
both
of
them.
So
I
think
you
bring
up
a
really
important
point.
You
know
in
terms
of
hospitalizations.
Are
we
talking
about?
Are
people
hospitalized
with
coping
or
for
coping?
So
we
are
looking
at
that
data.
D
When
you
look
at
people
who
are
hospitalized
for
covid,
they
are
prescribed
certain
certain
medications
that
we
know
treat
covet
so
we're
able
to
stratify
and
know
what
percentage
are
with
or
for
and
it's
it's
probably
around
fifty
percent
or
with
and
versus
fifty
percent
for
covid.
But
I
I
wanna
clarify
a
point
that
helps
us.
D
You
know
sort
of
understand
why
we
don't
divide
those
numbers
in
these
metrics,
so
even
if
somebody
is
hospitalized
with
covid
and
that
may
just
be
a
because
they
were
tested
for
surveillance
reasons
when
they
were
when
they
entered
into
the
hospital
that
still
is
problematic
within
our
health
care
system.
So
those
patients
may
wait
longer
for
beds
and
I
shouldn't
say:
may
they
do
wait
longer
for
beds,
because
these
are
isolation
beds
they
slow
down?
D
The
hospital
process-
and
when
I
say
they
I
mean
the
hospital
process,
slows
down
because
we're
dealing
with
an
infectious
illness,
so
so
staff
nurses,
doctors,
are
donning
and
doffing
so
they're
putting
on
you
know
gear.
You
know
ppe
before
they
go
into
rooms.
They're.
Really.
It
really
is
something
that
that
slows
down
our
our
hospital
system
and
actually
does
create
pressure
and
stress
you
know
covet
in
and
of
itself
with
or
four
it
doesn't
matter.
It
does
create
pressure
and
stress
on
our
hospital
system.
D
So
I
know
that
that's
been
brought
up
and
I
think
it's
important.
I
definitely
like.
I
said
I
follow
that
data,
but
I
I
want
us
to
understand
that
it
still
is
a
problem,
even
if
somebody's
incidentally
found
to
to
have
covenant
and
is
in
the
hospital
you
know.
So
I
I
did
want
to
say
that
and
then
your
other
question
was
about
preparing
for
the
future.
Is
that
was
that?
D
Okay,
so
one
of
the
main
focus
of
one
main
sort
of
focal
points
of
our
work
is
to
develop
sort
of
an
ongoing,
longer
term
action
plan
so
that
we
know
and
can
detect
evidence
of
a
future
surge
before
it
happens,
we're
working
with
a
number
of
people
to
do
that.
We're
also,
as
I
mentioned
looking
at
our
metrics,
including
you,
know,
predictive
measures
like
viral
wastewater
data,
so
that
we
know
in
advance
and
that
way
as
a
city
we
can
be
prepared.
We
can
start
scaling
up.
We
can
enhance
our
testing
services.
D
We
can
enhance
our
vaccinations
ramp.
It
up,
particularly
in
neighborhoods,
but
we
know
have
been
disproportionately
impacted-
have
suffered
severe
illness
death.
You
know
all
the
things
that
we
are.
We
want
to
protect
people
from
and
also
so
that
we
can
work
with
our
hospital
partners
so
that
they
can
be
prepared
and
increase
their
capacity.
So
it's
almost
like
a
playbook
that
we
can
follow
as-
and
this
is
about
following
numbers.
D
B
I
Thank
you,
chair
and,
and
thank
you,
dr
ogie
kutu.
I
just
have
two
questions:
what
are
some
valid
medical
exemptions
for
vaccination
and
then
in
terms
of
going
from
yellow
to
red,
can
you
walk
me
through,
like
the
decision
process
of
you
know
your
recommendation
on
when
we
go
back
and
forth?
Is
it
an
increase
over
two
days
three
days
a
week
in
those
metrics.
D
So,
thank
you,
councillor
warrell.
I
think
that
those
are
two.
You
know
obviously
important
points
I
think
the
there
there
probably
are.
You
know
a
whole
host
of
valid
medical
exemptions.
I
think
the
one
that
is
probably
most
important,
well
efficiency,
most
important.
It's
one
that
we
should
be
highlighting
is
if
somebody
had
anaphylaxis
to
any
component
of
the
vaccine
and
we
know
which
components
have
a
higher
sort
of
risk
of
causing
anaphylaxis
or
any
type
of
severe
reaction,
and
certainly
that
would
be.
You
know
a
major
one.
That
would
be.
D
That
would
be
a
medical
exemption,
but
you
know
doctors
who
are
looking
into
this.
They
can,
you
know,
sort
of
think
about
their
individual
patients
and
really
think
about
an
individual
level
as
to
what
might
be
an
exemption,
and
so
I
I
want
to
just
you
know,
sort
of
leave
that
a
little
bit
open
in
terms
of
the
red,
yellow,
green.
What
I
would
say
right
now
is
what
we
have.
D
What
we
have
is
a
draft
and
it's
part
of
what
I
was
telling
counselor
louisiana
about
the
a
little
bit
of
sort
of
what
we
call
in
the
playbook,
the
the
sort
of
the
guide
that
we
hope
to
use
going
forward
so
that
we
know
when
you
know,
sort
of
a
surge
is
coming.
And
what
do
we
do
as
a
city?
What
are
the
recommended
actions?
D
So,
for
instance,
we
might
be
looking
for
the
trend.
So
if
we
see
a
trend,
an
upward
trend
in
hospitalizations
for
covin,
then
that
may
be
before
the
200
threshold.
But
it's
a
trend
that
we're
seeing
and
when
we
see
a
trend
we
might
say
to
ourselves.
Okay,
we've
really
got
to
get
testing
in.
We
got
to
increase
our
health
communication,
particularly
in
communities.
We
know
that
are
disproportionately
impacted.
We
need
to
get
people
boosted.
We
need
to
prepare
as
a
city
with
our
ppe,
with
our
you
know,
masking
guidance.
D
So
it's
that
kind
of
that
kind
of
strategic
way
to
look
at
things,
so
we're
looking
at
trends
over
time
and
not
just
individual
numbers
per
se.
I
hope
that's
helpful
and,
like
I
said
this
is
a
this-
is
a
draft
right
now.
It's
you
know
something
we're
working
rigorously
with
with
a
number
of
experts
in
like
viral
dynamics
and
infectious
disease
epidemiology,
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
to
give
the
best
information
to
to
the
city.
I
B
B
I'm
just
checking
whether
her
connection
is
good
I'll
just
in
in
the
meantime,
doctor
coutu
just
say
that
we
will
follow
up
from
the
chair
on.
I
think,
specifically
councillor
baker's
question
about
sort
of
what
have
been
our
numbers
of
vaccinations
of
employees
since
the
initial
announcement
announcement
of
the
mandate.
J
Good
morning,
dr
visola,
how
are
you,
how
are
you,
I
think,
you're
doing
an
amazing
job
honestly,
you
know
we
thank
you
for
being
here
and
enlightening
us
with
your
wisdom
and
best
practices.
I
would
I
look
forward
to
learning
more,
but
I
don't
want
to
just
ask
questions
to
ask
questions.
I
think
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
had
brian
and
rosie
asked
and
then,
if
I
have
any
questions
as
kenzie
said,
whatever
reports
we'll
follow
up,
then.
B
Thank
you
so
much
dr
roger
coutus,
so
I
think
we've
run
through
the
all
the
counselors
who
are
here.
I
I
I'm
mindful
of
the
folks
who
are
waiting
to
speak
our
next
panel,
and
I
know
that
dr
jokutu
also
has
a
time
constraint.
But
if
counselors
have
any
follow-up
question
that
they
didn't
get
in
their
first
round
and
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
I'll
go
in
order,
anybody's
got
anything.
I
see
frank.
I
see
aaron,
okay,
counselor
murphy,.
C
My
first
okay,
so
just
two
other
questions,
follow-up
questions.
So
as
of
yesterday,
I
understand
that
there
were
367
btu
members
that
are
still
not
vaccinated,
and
does
that
mean
on
monday
that
they're
not
allowed
to
show
up
to
work
because
we're
still
in
the
red
zone
and
connected
to
that?
So
just
a
clarification
that
if
the
city
st
as
long
as
the
city
is
still
in
the
red
zone,
employees
who
aren't
vaccinated
can't
show
up
to
work.
Is
that
correct.
D
D
C
I
know
I
only
mentioned
the
teachers
because
I
know
they
came
to
an
agreement,
but
so
I
could
ask
it
differently.
So
as
long
as
we
are
in
the
red
zone,
if
you're
not
vaccinated
the
it's
saying
that
you
can't
show
up
to
work
correct
as
long
as,
if
we
get
into
the
yellow
zone,
then
they
can
come
to
work,
but
they
have
to
be
tested
twice
weekly.
Is
that
correct.
C
But
if
not,
do
we
have
a
plan
in
place
that,
if
say
two
weeks
from
now,
all
the
metrics
are
met
that
you
have
set
forward
and
unvaccinated
employees
are
allowed
to
be
at
work.
But
on
say
wednesday
morning
we
see
that
the
metrics
have
put
us
into
a
red
zone.
Do
we
have
a
plan
that
then
that
means
these
employees
have
to
leave
work
because
now
we're
not
in
a
safe
zone
that
was
set
by
this
mandate?
D
A
city,
so
maybe
it
helps
to
say
that
these
metrics
are
a
seven
day
average
and
we
would
be
trending
them
over
time,
so
we
wouldn't
be
putting
out
data.
That's
you
know.
So
so
one
day
there
was
just
an
uptick
keto
and
therefore
there
was
say
an
uptick
in
these
three
metrics
and
then
that
was
what
was
put
forth,
they're
actually
a
seven
day
moving
average.
So
they
take
into
account
previous
data
current
and
current
data
in
terms
of
the
actual
number.
So
it.
C
C
D
No,
no,
no!
What
I
well!
I
apologize.
If
I
wasn't
clear,
I
think
what
I
was
saying
is
that
testing
is
still
an
important
strategy.
Therefore,
we
will
continue
to
make
testing
available
to
our
city
employees
and
they
should
make
that
they
should
use
that
absolutely
if
they've
been
exposed.
They
have
only
questions
symptoms
that
that's
what
I
mean
it's.
C
B
K
Yes,
sorry
about
that
and
I
apologize
for
being
late,
everyone
I'm
actually
just
here
to
listen.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
was
clear
on
in
terms
of
the
the
goals
of
today's
conversations
and
so
much
has
changed.
I
think,
with
the
btu
contract
kind
of
implementing
a
somewhat
testing
option,
but
new
recruits
cannot
or
new
recruits
must
be
vaccinated.
K
I
didn't
know
if
that's
something
that
the-
and
this
is
maybe
because
I
see
that
bfd
seven
weights
on
and
other
unions
are
on-
is
that
something
that
you
guys
are
looking
for.
Similarly,
I'm
curious
about
what,
where
you
feel
the
stone
walls
are
in
terms
of
the
contract
negotiations
and
I
apologize,
but
that's
where
my
questions
were,
and
maybe
if
this
has
already
been
talked
about,
I
can
review
the
video
counselor
block.
I
can
see
it
in
your
face,
but
that's
all.
B
Yeah
counselor
edwards
we're.
Although
we've
got
people
in
the
zoom
room,
we
are
doing
two
separate
panels
because
of
the
the
importance
of
making
it
look
like
an
open
negotiation
session.
So,
but
I
think
your
question
can
be
noted
by
those
folks
and
addressed
in
in
their
testimony.
Subsequently.
Okay,
fair
enough.
I
will
wait
on
that.
Thank.
G
Thank
you
hi
doctor.
It's
me
again,
can
we
like?
Can
we
draw
any
parallels
between
the
pandemic
in
1918
in
this
one?
Is
it?
Is
it
by
any
means
following
the
same
trajectory,
not
not
that
I've
read
that
much
on
it,
but
it
it
was
like
a
two-year
thing
and
there
was
three
or
four
sort
of
different
variants.
Are
we
following?
D
There
have
been
surprises-
a
lot
of
surprises
here,
this
omicron
variant
with
all
of
the
mutations
that
came
with
it
was
a
bit
surprising
to
the
scientific
community.
The
fact
that
it's
milder
is
good,
but
I
I
think
all
of
us
are
having
a
hard
time
knowing
what
comes
next.
So
it's
it's
very
difficult
to
say
that
this
is
the
same
thing.
As
you
know,
I
can't
really
say
at
all.
If
this
is
the
same
thing,
I
think
we
just
have
to
be
prepared
as
a
city
for
all.
G
Okay
and
again,
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
with.
If
we
go
back
to
around
the
time
we
had
the
the
the
press
conference
came
out.
I
think
positivity,
as
you
said,
were
around
27
percent
or
or
whatever
they
were,
but
they
they
were
high
and
we
all
like
nearly
everybody.
I
knew
had
the
had
the
omicron
like
why.
G
Why
did
we
not
we,
because
I
wasn't
there?
Why
did
that?
Why,
in
that
press
conference
was
okay,
the
positivity
rate
is
through
the
roof,
but
we're
going
to
wait
two
weeks
before
we
implement
all
this
stuff.
It
just
does.
It
doesn't
jive
to
me,
and
I
still
would
like
to
know
and
probably
will
never
get
the
answer
of.
G
How
was
that
decision
made?
Who
was
in
the
room
who
like
because
we
had
we
had
beverly
there
we
had
somerville
there
we
had.
You
know
a
whole
host
of
towns
were
there
and
when
they
brought
it
in
front
of
the
democratic
process
for
lack
of
a
better
term
when
they
brought
it
to
their
boards,
their
selectmen
or
or
or
or
someone
that
wasn't
just
a
person
making
a
decision.
G
Quite
a
few
of
them
got
voted
down
so
like.
Where
was
this
decision
made?
Who
made?
Who
was
in
the
room
and
again,
I'm
not
going
to
pressure
you
to
make
that
decision?
But
but
that's
a
that's
a
question
that
I
want
answered.
How
did
you
come
up
with
this?
So
if
the
positivity
rates
were
at
30
percent,
why
weren't
we
setting
up
failed
hospitals?
G
G
However,
we
want
to
refer
to
it,
I'm
looking
at
the
numbers.
If
we
go
down
to
a
positivity
rate
of
of
three
percent
and
these
numbers
are
crashing,
there
are
30
percent.
You
know
three
four
weeks
ago,
they're
at
they're
at
in
this
conversation
and
went
down
almost
a
point
from
7.4
to
6
point
whatever.
So
I
think
that
those
are
going
to
come
down
even
further.
G
So
I'm
concerned
I'm
concerned
about
the
direction
of
of
how
we're
using
this
this
now
for
political
purposes.
I
think
I
think
the
decisions
were
made
politically
and
I
don't
think
that
they
they
we're
we're
looking
at
it
fairly.
I
think
that
omicron
is
far
different
from
what
the
original
variant
was
again.
If
we
had
a
32
percent
rate
back
in
march
or
april,
our
hospitals
would
have
been
overwhelmed.
They
would,
we
would
have
seen
people
seeing
people
dying.
That
isn't
the
case
with
this
variant.
So
why
are
we
treating
it
the
same
way?
G
Two
years
later,
with
this
variant
here
and
again,
a
lot
of
that's
your
statement.
I
don't
want
to
get
you
on
the
hot
seat
and
have
to
answer
any
of
that
stuff
there.
Those
are
more,
those
are
more
statements,
so
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
have
done
and
I
don't
envy
your
position
being
stuck
in
the
middle
here,
but
thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
the
city.
B
B
As
I
said,
we
won't
have
direct
questions
for
those
members,
but
after
we
hear
their
statements,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
a
round
of
counselor
statements
so
that
people
have
a
opportunity
to
react
and
then,
if
you're,
waiting
patiently
for
public
testimony,
we
will
go
to
you
after
that
panel.
I
would
also
just
ask,
I
think
I
have
one
person
here
from
bppa,
where
I
don't
have
a
name.
B
So
if
you
could
just
change
your
zoom
names
that
I
know
who
it
is,
that
would
be
very
helpful
and-
and
I
do
have,
I
do
have
a
written
statement
from
the
boston
police
superior
officers,
but
I
think
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
in
deference
I'll.
Let
the
the
folks
who
are
here
go
first
and
then
I'll
read
that
into
the
record
before
we
finish
the
panel
and
before
counselor
statements.
B
B
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
services
we're
looking
here,
for
I
will
thank
you
for
allowing
718
to
speak
on
this
very
important
matter.
Boston,
firefighters,
local
718,
along
with
the
fellow
unions
that
represent
the
city
of
boston,
public
safety
services,
have
have
been
in
a
prolonged
dispute
with
the
met
with
the
woo
administration.
L
L
Nearly
all
unions
signed
an
agreement
incorporating
this
policy
into
their
collective
bargaining
agreement.
That
policy
was
successfully
it
worked
successfully
for
three
reasons.
First,
it
helped
control
the
spread
of
cover
19
by
identifying
bostonians
that
tested
positive
for
the
virus
and
quarantined
in
accordance
to
the
cdc
guidelines.
L
Second,
the
policy
provided
a
pool
of
employees
who
were
regularly
tested
and
therefore
provided
a
baseline
and
determined
trends
about
the
virus.
Third,
the
agreement
arise
arising
from
the
policy
acknowledge
the
the
the
respective
collective
bargaining
agreement
by
treating
unions
as
partners
in
determining
the
terms
of
this
condition
of
employment.
L
L
L
L
L
L
More
massachusetts
communities
are
removing
the
mass
mandates
in
order
to
return
to
a
sense
of
normalcy.
Boston
should
do
the
same.
We
have
always
believed
in
encourage
our
members
choice
to
be
vaccinated.
However,
we
strongly
believe
that
any
vaccination
policy
or
mandate
must
be
bargained
in
good
faith
in
our
members
rights
preserved.
L
As
of
today,
all
of
our
attempts
to
settle
the
labor
dispute
has
stalled.
We
have
spent
several
days
in
long
hours
at
the
parkway
house
work
in
tandem
with
our
fellow
unions.
Yet,
every
time,
every
time
we
make
a
proposal,
our
agreement
to
the
woos
administration's
proposal,
the
city
simply
ignores
us
or
withdraws
their
proposal.
L
In
closing,
we
implore
that
you
oppose
the
anti-labor
position
manual
has
taken
in
on
this
issue
on
behalf
of
over
2
600,
local
718
members
and
their
families.
We
respectfully
request
that
you
voice
your
support
on
collective
bargaining
and
urge
mao
wu
to
treat
the
boston,
firefighters
with
the
dignity
and
dignity
and
respect
deserved
by
engaging
in
full,
fully
and
meaningful,
with
local
718.
L
B
Thank
you
so
much
president
source
and
I
think,
we've
had
a
technical
difficulty
with
the
bppa
representative,
so
I'm
going
to
go
now
to
afscme
93,
so
I'll
go
to
dan
moriarty
and
then
to
chris
stockbridge,
also
known
to
many
of
us
as
tiger
and
dan
dan.
If
you,
if
that's
the
right
order
great
if
you
and
chris
want
to
swap
it
doesn't
matter
to
me.
N
Thanks
council
thanks
all
the
attending
counselors,
it
means
a
lot
to
see
us
all
there
trying
to
help
us.
I
appreciate
the
efforts
of
the
doctor.
I
only
wish
we
could
have
done
this
in
person
as
many
as
my
ask
me.
Sisters
and
brothers
are
out
there
doing
their
jobs
right
now
on
the
street
and
don't
have
the
benefits
of
zoom
and
still
have
to
go
and
perform
their
duties
every
day.
N
As
I
listened
to
the
councils
early
on,
I
heard
a
counselor
flynn
ask
a
question
about
tracking
city
of
boston
employees
in
their
long-term
conditions,
and
I
mean
the
simple
answer
is
no,
I
mean
as
an
employee
who
had
covert
in
the
very
beginning,
if
not
one
of
the
very
first
city
of
boston
employees,
I
still
have
conditions
with
the
long-term
care.
That's
going
to
need
to
be
probably
addressed
between
still
losing
my
taste
and
smell
as
well
as
breathing
heavily
at
times.
N
The
council
of
me
here
asks
if
we
were
ever
off
at
any
kind
of
mental
therapy
or
anything
like
that.
The
answer
is
also
no
most
cases
we
were
told
hurry
up,
get
back
to
work
for
myself.
Personally,
I
lost
a
mother
to
call
it
six
days
after
losing
a
mother
of
the
covert.
I
had
a
brother
in
a
coma
with
coving.
N
He
was
up
in
st
elizabeth's
hospital
and
I
happened
to
drive
by
just
to
say
a
little
prayer
to
myself,
and
I
was
called
by
my
my
superiors
and
warned
that
you
know
I
could
be
terminated.
If
I
go
near
the
hospital,
I
mean
these
aren't
ways
to
treat
your
employees,
and
I
mean
a
lot
of
what
I
heard
all
the
other
councils.
Speak
of
I
agree
with
councillor.
Edwards
asked
what
the
stonewalls
are.
N
What
the
stonewalls
are
in
the
collective
bargaining
process
is
no
president
or
union
member
ever
wants
to
bring
back
an
agreement.
That's
going
to
terminate
a
fellow
member
we're
not
here
to
get
our
brothers
and
sisters
fired,
we're
here
to
come
back
with
a
deal
that
works
for
everybody,
and
we
were
able
to
do
that
under
mad
jane.
We
respectfully
went
to
the
table.
N
We
worked
out
a
deal
that
worked
for
everybody
and
we
wanted
that
deal
on
it
and
if
the
numbers
were
so
high
and
for
full
disclosure,
I'm
vaccinated
I'm
boosted,
but
it
was
my
choice.
It
was
a
choice
that
I
made
and
with
conditions
of
employment,
they
need
to
be
negotiated
at
the
table
through
collective
bargaining
and
so
far
the
collective
bargaining
rights
have
just
been
run
over
a
lot
of
times.
N
City
employees
are
getting
emails
about
issues
that
we're
supposed
to
be
bargaining
at
the
table,
but
they're
calling
us
saying
that
emails
are
going
out
by
administrations
asking
us
what's
going
on
and
then
a
lot
of
cases
we're
there
to
pick
up
the
pieces,
and
then
we
have
to
stop
the
process
to
reach
out
to
the
administrations
to
say
what's
going
on,
why
aren't
we
being
notified
first?
Why
aren't
we
working
this
out?
None
of
us
are
anti-vaxxers.
N
We
want
to
protect
ourselves
as
well.
We
want
to
protect
that
college.
We
want
to
protect
the
public
that
we
have
to
deal
with
and
interface
with
every
day
when
we're
out
there.
I've
worked
for
the
city
of
boston
for
32
years.
The
last
thing
I
wanted
my
conscience
is
that
I
made
somebody
sick
or
that
I
made
somebody
unable
to
perform
their
own
duties,
but
we're
looking
for
a
partnership
and
we're
just
getting
it's
our
way
of
the
highway
and
that's
just
unacceptable.
N
N
Well,
it's
a
plain
and
simple
thing
is
collective
bargaining
has
to
work
and
we
can't
just
use
a
pandemic
as
a
reason
to
stomp
along
the
collective
bargaining
rights
of
all
of
us
and
our
numbers
and
our
sisters
and
brothers
across
the
the
entire
city
of
boston,
the
united
states
of
america.
For
that
matter,
we
still
have
to
sit
and
create
a
plan
that
works
for
everybody.
One
thing
that
everyone
has
to
realize
is:
as
union
leaders
we
don't
just
represent
the
vaccinated.
N
We
ask
that
the
mayor
stand
with
us
and
we
ask
that
you
all
continue,
or
at
least
try
to
continue
and
I'm
not
asking
I'm
saying
we
want
our
rights
respected
and
carried
out,
and
I-
and
I
I
tell
you
now-
that
everybody
that's
come
in
front
of
us-
should
be
standing
with
us
now
to
make
sure
that
a
two-sided,
properly
negotiated
deal
comes
through
and
that
no
members
are
just
thrown
out
the
door.
You
can
lose
their
livelihood
after
having
a
great
thrill
with
the
city
of
boston.
N
M
M
My
name
is
dan
moriarty,
I'm
president
of
askmelocal944,
which
represents
police
and
fire
civilians,
mechanics
custodians
and
clerical
workers.
So,
just
to
echo
what
chris
said
we're
not
anti-vaxxed.
We
have
a
very
high
vaccination
rate
and
asthma,
probably
one
of
the
highest
in
the
city,
but
we
are
pro-collective
bargaining,
and
I
I
want
one
question
I
wanted
to
ask
is
what
happened
to
collective
bargaining
to
administration
that
ran
on
such
a
progressive
agenda,
to
throw
a
collective
bargaining
out
the
window
is,
is
against
all
those
policies
and
all
those
beliefs.
M
So
what
we
have
here
is
like
chris
said
is:
yes,
we
have
a
high
number
of
vaccinated
people,
but
we
also
have
a
very
small
percentage
of
unvaccinated
that
still
deserve
a
voice
in
the
workforce
and
to
completely
throw
out
an
agreement
that
was
signed
in
black
and
white.
Legally
binding
is
disheartening
and
discouraging,
to
say
the
least:
it's
not
pro-union,
it's
not
progressive
by
any
stretch,
and
I
mean
for
that
to
bring
that
back
to
our
membership
and
is
is
difficult,
difficult
to
say
the
least.
M
As
far
as
you
know,
the
plan
working
prior
to
the
mandate,
like
president
source,
said
from
local
718.
Those
metrics
worked,
the
the
testing
once
a
week
was
working.
The
the
numbers
were
on
the
uptick
and
now
they're
coming
down.
So
for
that
to
work
during
that
period
of
time
and
not
work
now
is
it
doesn't
make
any
statistical
sense
whatsoever,
but
yeah
we're
we're.
You
know
our
members
have
been
out
there
every
day
we
couldn't
work
from
home.
M
M
O
Good
morning,
man,
I'm
a
chair
and
good
morning,
city,
council,
counselors
and
and
and
counselor
aaron
murphy
committee,
members
and
distinguished
guests
at
this
time.
I'd
like
to
thank
council
bach
and
eric
murphy
for
their
continue
continuing
to
create
an
opportunity
for
organized
labor
to
be
heard
and
creating
this
panel.
We
look
forward
to
other
opportunities
in
the
future
to
work
collaboratively
to
enhance
relationships
between
organized
labor
and
the
city
of
boston.
O
Existing
labor
agreements
were
in
place
related
to
the
covet
19
prior
to
the
vaccine
mandate.
We
wish
that
additional
covatine
be
built
in
preferably
10
days
of
cover
time,
additional
wellness
days
and
testing
options
for
those
that
require
it.
Local
888
believes
all
workers
and
all
unions
should
be
heard
and
represented
on
on,
and
that
is
our
daily
model.
We
support
our
union
brothers
and
sisters
city-wide
from
other
locals
both
public
sector
and
public
safety.
O
We
wish
to
work
with
the
city
unions
in
a
continued
collaborative
nature
as
well.
We
wish
to
thank
them
all
for
their
steadfast
efforts.
Through
this
international
pandemic,
we
have
represented
all
membership,
in
our
opinion,
to
the
city
of
boston
throughout
the
pandemic.
In
the
name
of
fair
representation,
we
believe
the
due
process
should
take
place
in
good
faith
bargaining
sessions
between
the
city
of
boston
and
all
unions.
O
We
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
maintain
and
bargain
a
fair
contract.
We
believe
that
any
information
requested
of
the
mayor
and
her
administration
should
be
furnished
to
the
city
council
in
order
for
the
city
council
to
do
their
jobs
and
generate
necessary
discovery
that
is
so
important
for
fair
representation.
O
O
P
P
I
represent
astm
1526,
the
library,
assistants,
the
clerical
workers
and
the
trade
workers
at
the
boston,
public
library,
and
we
appreciated
the
willingness
of
the
administration
to
protect
our
workers,
both
vaccinated
and
unvaccinated,
and
we
wanted
and
we
were
able
to
keep
their
jobs.
When
this
new
mandate
came
out,
many
workers
got
vaccinated
while
others
followed
the
rules
and
got
tested
weekly,
they
uploaded
their
results.
Even
when
the
portal
didn't
work,
they
sent
them
to
their
hr
managers,
they
sent
them
to
their
supervisors
because
they
wanted
to
make
sure
they
were
following
the
rules.
P
My
members
are
part
of
the
communities
beyond
their
workplace
and
we
should
be
celebrating
and
encouraging
that
our
issue
with
this
is
how
the
policy
was
handled.
Announcing
a
change
to
the
policy
without
meeting
with
the
unions
is
bad
faith.
You
want
to
make
changes
to
a
policy
or
a
mandate.
You
need
to
do
it
the
right
way.
You
need
to
notice
the
unions.
First
set
dates,
sit
down
and
bargain.
P
P
When
we
were
able
to
sit
down
with
the
city,
we
asked
why
they
felt
change
in
their
vaccine
for
continued
employment.
We
weren't,
given
any
concrete
reasons
for
this
change.
We
asked
for
data
about
covet
cases
specific
to
the
unvaccinated
pool
and
we're
told
that
they
could
not
provide
that
data.
We
asked
why
the
contractors
who
work
within
our
buildings
on
a
regular
basis
are
being
held
to
a
different
standard
and
got
no
response,
and
that
list
goes
on.
P
P
How
can
we
do
that?
When
that
trust
has
been
eroded
at
the
bpo?
We
do
not
discriminate.
Our
doors
are
open
and
free
to
all.
We
are
constantly
reminding
patrons
to
put
on
or
pull
up
their
masks.
Our
members
regularly
closely
engage
with
the
public.
We
do
not
require
vaccination
or
approved
to
enter
our
buildings,
so
why
should
city
of
boston
employees
be
treated
any
differently?
P
We
talk
about
reducing
risk.
My
members
don't
deserve
to
have
the
public
verbally
abusing
them,
refusing
to
leave
and
making
recordings
of
their
protests
about
these
mandates,
as
occurred
last
weekend
and
again
yesterday,
at
one
of
our
branches,
the
bpd
should
be
empowered
to
remove
these
individuals
if
they're,
in
violation
of
our
policy.
P
P
B
B
B
I
just
really
want
to
thank
all
of
the
all
the
late
representatives
who
just
spoke
to
us
and
apologize
again
for
the
ways
in
which
the
charter
makes
this
more
rigid
informal
than
our
kind
of
normal
exchanges,
all
right
february,
10th
2022
at
to
the
boston
city
council.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
the
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology
for
allowing
the
boston
police
superior
officers
federation
to
address
this
important
topic.
B
We
share
the
concerns
of
fellow
unions
about
the
mayor's
disrespect
for
collective
bargaining
and
her
disregard
for
the
sacrifices
made
of
our
members.
During
this
pandemic,
it
is
irresponsible
to
suggest
that
public
safety
has
ever
shirked
its
dedication
to
the
public
when
the
city
shut
down
and
forced
employees
to
stay
home,
boston,
police
and
fire
continued
to
report
to
work.
B
Moreover,
the
city
often
forced
us
to
work
in
2020
and
2021.
police
and
fire
experienced
unprecedents,
unprecedented
amounts
of
forced
overtime
and
cancellation
of
scheduled
days
off
still,
we
served
when
the
vaccination
was
first
made
available
to
first
responders
in
early
2020,
mayor
walsh
and
commissioner
cross
respected
collective
bargaining
by
encouraging,
but
not
forcing
first
responders
to
become
vaccinated.
B
Many
stepped
up
when
acting
mayor
janie
announced
the
first
ever
cobia
19
testing
policy
in
august
2021.
She
adopted
the
successful
model
of
vermont
and
that
was
ultimately
adopted
by
labor
secretary
marty,
walsh,
vaccination
or
weekly
testing.
We
had
several
meetings
about
this
policy
and
finally
reached
agreement
on
december
7th
with
mayor
wu.
When
we
signed
the
agreement,
the
city
never
suggested
that
the
policy
or
our
moa
was
under
review.
The
positivity
rate
at
the
time
we
executed
was
6.7
percent.
If
you
exclude
colleges
or
2.3
percent.
B
If
you
include
colleges
just
10
days
later,
mayor
wu
changed
the
policy
without
so
much
as
a
phone
call.
First
to
us,
the
positivity
rate
was
the
same
when
she
changed
the
policy
as
when
she
signed
our
moa,
but
it
is
not
merely
that
mayor
wu
changed
the
policy
and
ignored
our
moa
that
has
demoralized
public
safety
service.
It
is
the
manner
in
which
we
have
been
treated.
The
city
gave
just
25
days
notice
of
the
change
and
then
refused
to
meet
with
us
until
one
week
before
the
mandate
went
into
effect.
B
When
we
finally
met
the
city
did
not
respond
or
address
our
concerns.
The
city
showed
up
to
a
mediation
the
next
week,
without
any
authority
to
settle
the
city
is
given
shifting,
given
shifting
reasons
for
the
issuing
for
issuing
the
mandate
for
employees,
which
was
implemented
at
the
same
time,
mayor
wu's
passport
requirement
for
indoor
spaces
was
implemented
of
the
six
metrics
examined
by
the
bphc.
The
city
cited
only
two
of
them.
B
B
We
have
had
several
marathon
sessions
with
the
city
and
other
unions
to
settle
this
dispute.
It
is
clear
to
us
that
the
mayor's
decisions
are
guided
by
political
science
rather
than
science.
For
instance,
when
we
met
the
city,
could
not
articulate
any
metrics
used
to
guide
when
it
would
rescind
the
policy
about
the
search.
It
was
only
this
week
when
the
city
finally
claimed
three
metrics
will
dictate
its
decision.
Plus
all
the
evidence
indicates
that
the
search
has
ended.
Positivity
rates,
hospitalizations
and
wastewater
data
all
demonstrate
that
the
threat
has
evaded.
B
The
city's
claims
that
unvaccinated
employees
place.
The
public
at
risk
is
absurd.
Remember
our
members
worked
tirelessly
through
the
pandemic
without
any
additional
pay
or
benefits.
Everybody
knows
that
we
kept
the
public
out
of
harm's
way,
rather
than
placing
them
in
it.
Plus
the
mayor
deliberately
forced
unvaccinated
employees
to
work
during
the
worst
of
the
surge.
When
positivity
rates
approached
30,
you
can
only
believe
that
unvaccinated
employees
present
a
risk
to
public
health.
B
Our
major
sticking
point
during
negotiations
has
been
what
to
do
about
unvaccinated
employees
right
now,
mayor
wu
says
she
wants
to
put
them
out
of
work,
even
though
we're
at
the
end
of
the
surge,
and
there
is
no
evidence
that
public
health
worsened
at
the
same
time.
The
mayor's
deal
with
the
boston
teachers
allows
her
to
remove
nearly
400
unvaccinated
bps
staff
right
now,
mayor
wu
won't
do
it
thus
suggesting
her
obsession
with
the
metrics
is
just
an
illusion.
That's
the
end
of
the
written
testimony
from
the
boston
police
superior
officers
federation.
B
B
C
You
and
thank
you
to
all
of
the
unions
who
were
here
today
and
taking
these
few
hours
out
of
your
busy
day
to
attend
this
meeting
and
share
your
concerns.
What
I
heard
over
and
over
again
from
all
of
you
and
was
reminded,
is
that
your
employees
have
been
showing
up
to
work
every
day,
keeping
the
city
safe
moving
it
forward.
You
did
not
have
the
you
know
the
privilege
of
zoom
or
to
work
remotely,
and
that
is
not
being.
You
know
listened
to
right
now.
C
So
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
and
I'm
happy
that
you've
had
this
opportunity
today
to
share
your
concerns
with
the
council
and
knowing
that
going
forward
that
you're
back
to
the
table
and
that
the
administration
is
going
to
come
back
to
with
you
to
talk
through
this
negotiations
that
we
need
to
move
forward
and
we
need
to
have
your
voices
heard.
So.
Thank
you.
E
E
Covert
19
pandemic
has
been
a
terrible
time
for
our
city
and
country,
and
it's
it's.
It
brought
a
great
division,
not
only
here
in
in
boston
and
massachusetts,
but
across
the
country,
but
having
said
that,
it's
still
critical
that
we
work
together
during
this
pandemic
to
protect
ourselves
and
families
in
the
in
the
residence
in
the
neighbors
in
the
neighbors
we
serve
as
well.
Data
has
shown
that
vaccines
and
boosters
have
been
extremely
effective.
E
I
continue
to
encourage
all
my
neighbors
to
get
to
get
vaccinated
and
I'll
continue
to
work
with
the
city
administration
and
encourage
them
to
continue
to
work
with
city
employees
and
with
city
unions
to
to
be
at
the
bargaining
table.
Collective
bargaining
has
always
been
a
a
critical
part
of
worker
in
management
issues,
and
collective
bargaining
is
something
I
I
strongly
strongly
support.
E
I
I
have
a
strong
record
of
support
of
organized
labor
on
the
boston
city,
council
and
I'll
match
that,
with
with
anyone's
record,
to
be
honest
with
you,
having
said
that
these
are
difficult
times
in
our
in
our
city,
but
I
I
still
think
if
we
work
together,
we
sip
it.
We
go
back
to
the
bargaining
table
and
sit
down
in
good
faith.
I
think
there
can
be
a
a
compromise
here.
B
A
G
Council,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to.
If
it's
okay
get
a
sense
of
from
the
people
that
spoke,
what
are
their
numbers
we're
talking
about
like
so
maybe
tiger
can
tell
us
what
he's
talking.
John?
Can
you
know
like
so
so?
If
we
can,
if
you
can
call
the
mount
madam
chair
and
ask
them
what
what
the
numbers
of
their
unit
that
we're
talking
about.
B
I
think
probably
the
best
way
for
us
to
do
that
would
be
like,
so
I
can
make
that
a
pair
with
the
information
request
of
the
the
same
way
we're
asking
the
admin
we
can
ask
the
union,
but
we
can
also
ask
the
admin
for
that
info
request
broken
down
by
unit
because
they
should
have
that
data.
So
I'm
happy
to
get
it
that
way.
I
think.
That's
that's
probably
the
best
way
for
us
to
get
that.
G
Okay,
good,
that's
that's!
That's
fair
enough
and
also
alyssa
made
a
point
about
what
I
think
was
a
hipaa
violation
there
with
with
the
city
sending
out
people's
people's
health
information.
I
kind
of
heard
about
that,
but
I
didn't
I
I
I
I
never
really
saw
very
much
of
it.
I'd
like
to
get
in
again
she's,
not
here,
labor
relations,
we're
in
the
labor
committee
she's,
not
here,
I'd
like
to
get
an
explanation
from
her.
G
You
know:
what's
our
next
action
there
and
again,
not
looking
to
get
somebody
fired,
but
why
did
that
happen?
How
did
that
happen?
So
that's
two.
I
had
a
question.
I
had
a
question
around
something
else.
You
can't
really
think
of
it,
but
the
continuing
theme
that
we're
seeing
here,
madam
chair,
is
the
fact
that
this
administration
refuses
to
have
a
a
conversation
here.
There's
no
conversations
and
that's
a
problem.
G
There
was
an
agreement
in
place,
an
agreement
in
place,
we're
making
decisions
about
people's
life
and
we're
just
talking
about
labor
we're
just
talking
about
our
workforce
here
today,
but
I
can't
say
it
enough
about
the
restaurants
and
small
businesses
that
are
being
affected.
It's
affecting
every
part
of
our
lives.
I
think
it's
time
I
think
it's
time
to
to
figure
out
when
we're
able
to
normalize
where's
the
leadership.
G
That's
going
to
tell
us,
okay
boston's
coming
out
of
this
we're
going
to
be
healthy
and
and
and
this
is
what
we
should
start
doing-
I'm
looking
for
some
leadership
here,
I'm
looking
for
a
partnership
and
we
don't
have
it
the
unions.
Don't
have
it
me
as
a
city
councilor,
someone
that
that
represents
75
000
people,
I
feel
like
I'm
I'm
in
the
dark.
I
feel
like
I'm
being
negligent
in
my
job,
because
I'm
unable
to
move
the
needle
on
this.
I
I
don't
think
that
the
data
backs
up
what
we're
doing
here.
G
I
think
it's
time
I
think
it's
time
to
lift
some
the
vax
passport
for
restaurants,
and
I
think,
it's
time
to
come
to
an
agreement
with
these
with
these
with
these
unions.
In
a
time
where
we're
talking,
we
were
talking
about
getting
rid
of
people,
the
people
that
were
that
were
out
on
the
streets
when
we
were
all
home
and
on
our
couches,
the
police,
the
fire
tigers
group
code
enforcement.
They
were
out
there,
damn
moriotti
he's.
He
didn't
have
a
chance
to
do
to
do
covet.
G
There's
legislation
at
the
state
house
that
that
that
will
allow
people
to
to
put
time
on
the
backside
of
their
retirement.
We
should
be
talking
about
how
we
reward
the
people
that
were
boots
on
the
ground
during
this
during
this
pandemic
and
that
talks
about
people
that
are
in
the
transportation
department.
The
ticket,
the
the
people
that
were
collecting
money
for
the
tickets,
they
were
in
their
boots,
the
people
that
were
collecting
taxes.
They
were
in
their
booths,
the
people
that
were
that
were
still
pumping
out
our.
G
Still
pumping
out
our
our
our
birth
certificates
and
marriage
tickets,
they
were
all
in
the
office
and
we're
talking
about
getting
rid
of
them.
What
have
we
become?
What
have
we
become?
We
should
be
looking
at
how
we
reward
these
people,
not
how
we
hurt
them,
and
I
would
like
an
answer
about
what
we're
doing
about
that
hipaa
violation
and
I
would
like
I
would
like
some
real
numbers
on
these
and
and
and
what,
how
far
this
needle
has
moved
with
the
city
workforce.
If
we
had.
F
G
People
we
were
90,
whatever
percent
vaccinated.
Did
this
move?
One
percent
two
percent
is
all
this
angst
in
everybody's
lives
here?
Is
it
all
worth
it
at
the
end
of
the
day?
Is
it
worth
it
for
political
points?
For
political
talking
points?
That's
what
I
think
it's
about,
because
we're
still
unable
to
figure
out
how
we
made
these
decisions,
who
was
in
the
room
who
was
in
the
room
who
made
this
decision
for
the
entire
city
of
boston?
B
Thank
you,
council,
baker
and,
yes,
we'll
add
the
hipaa
follow-up
question
in
the
information
request
and
also,
and
also
the
question
you're
asking
about
decision
procedure.
Counselor
louis
jen
is
next
and
then
it'll
be
councillor
warwell
and
then
counselor
fernandez,
anderson,
counselor,
louis
jen.
H
Yes,
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
again
to
the
labor
panel.
As
many
have
said,
this
was
we
are
living
in
very
unprecedented
times
that
none
of
us
has
lived
through
a
pandemic
before,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
encourage
the
right
of
us
all
to
be
able
to
work
in
safe
workplaces
and
grateful
for
the
work
that
has
been
done
and
encouraged
by
the
fact
that
the
mayor
is
having
on
ongoing
conversations
with
labor.
So
I
think
that
you
know
to
frank's
point.
H
I
think
that
there
are
those
conversations
are
happening
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
you
know
if
we
could
get
information
about
when
they
happen.
I
I'd
be
grateful
for
that,
so
that
we,
the
city
council,
can
be
kept
abreast.
I
know
that
you
know
the
negotiations
are
between
the
mayor
and
the
unions,
and
so
the
city
council
doesn't
really
have
a
official
role,
but
as
long
as
we
are
kept
up
to
date
in
terms
of
what
you
know
when
those
conversations
happen
and
and
what
occurs
I'd,
be
grateful.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
council
luigi,
I'm
happy
to
request
of
the
administration
information
on
bargaining
sessions
held.
I
I
would
hope
we
could
get
that
information.
I
don't
know
what
the
I
don't
know
what
the
legal
history
of
like
whether
that
itself
is
the
thing
that
we
get
to
know
or
not,
but
I
agree
with
you
that
it
seems
reasonable
to
me
and
it
would
help
the
council.
I
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Well,
this
is
it's.
It's
not
easy
right.
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
imperative
that
we
retain
a
culture
of
civility
and
I
really
have
a
deep
respect
for
the
diversity
of
viewpoints
here
as
it
pertains
to
this.
Like
such
a
divisive
issue,
I
am
engaged
about
in
this
balancing
act
and
hopefully
that
the
public
health
and
all
of
us
like
we.
J
I
think
you
know
they
should
they.
They
shouldn't
be
vilified
for
having
opposing
positions,
and
I
really
do,
of
course
respect
the
the
bargaining,
collective
bargaining
and
or
caricature
for
personal
decisions
that
they
make.
But,
however,
I
want
to
state
that
there's
proponents
of
data
that
we
have
that
demonstrated
that
vaccines
act
significantly
or
at
least
lessen
to
the
chances
that
someone
will
contract
kovitch.
J
J
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
parents
anderson
before
I
go
to
public
testimony.
I
I
do.
I
see
counselor
murphy
on
the
screen
and
since
it
is
her
hearing,
I
did
want
to
give
her
the
courtesy
of
the
last
word.
If
she'd
like
one
and
then
I
did
see
a
couple
of
our
representatives,
hands
go
back
up.
So
what
I'll
do
there?
B
I'm
gonna
go
to
them
first,
and
then
I
can,
I
think,
actually,
because
of
because
of
this
whole
order
thing
like
because
it's
not
supposed
to
be
if
but
I
will
take
so
what
we'll
do
is
if
you
make
a
comment
and
then
we'll
move
to
public
testimony,
but
what
I'll
do
is
I'll?
Let
the
labor
reps
get
another
word
in
as
the
sort
of
start
of
public
testimony.
C
Yeah
I'll
just
say
again,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
testimony
and
support
today.
You
know
I
call
this
hearing
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
all
our
voices
to
be
heard
and
to
have
information
given
in
this
constructive
way.
So
thank
you
all
for
showing
up
and
supporting
this
process,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing.
I
know
a
lot
of
counselors
now
have
good.
You
know
questions
with
more
information.
We
now
have
more
questions
about.
C
B
Great
thank
you
councillor,
murphy!
I'm
now
gonna
go
to
public
testimony
but,
as
I
said
I'll
take
as
the
start
of
public
testimony
just
let
further
comments
from
our
labor
representatives
who
are
here.
So
I
think
in
order
of
the
hands
that
I
saw
go
up
I'll
go
to
tom
at
888
and
then
to
tiger
and
then
to
president
soros
and
and
then
just
so
that
folks,
who
are
here,
know
that
you're
on
deck
I've
got
ben
siegel.
I've
got
dana
dimpletoe.
B
I've
got
jonathan
cohn
john
daly,
janet
sloven,
naporcha,
patterson
laurel
rodwin,
and
then
there's
a
few
people
anthony
strong,
mr
livingstone
and
alex
stein,
who
I
have
signed
up,
who
I
don't
see
yet
and
if
and
then
there's
a
couple
more
people.
I've
just
got
to
make
sure
that
you're
signed
up
to
testify.
B
If
you
are
watching
this
and
you
realize
that
you
want
to
testify-
and
you
haven't
signed
up,
I'm
just
going
to
remind
you
to
email
ccc.csit
at
boston.gov,
so
ccc.csit
boston.gov,
with
your
full
name
in
your
neighborhood
or
town.
If
you
live
outside
of
boston
and
then
just
make
sure
that
your
zoom
name
matches
that
name
that
you've
given
us,
so
that
we
know
that
it's
you
that'd
be
great.
Now,
okay,
tom,
we'll
start
public
testimony
with
you.
O
We've
done
our
due
diligence
in
this
office,
and-
and
you
know
it's
been
always
communicated
that
the
arka
money
was
was
met
for
the
essential,
as
well
as
the
non-essential
and
and
and
workers
that
would
have
worked
through
the
worst
period
in
history.
That's
also
meant
to
uplift
small
business
owners.
B
Great,
thank
you
tom
and
all
the
things.
My
other
hat
is
as
chair
of
the
covert
recovery
committee
and
we
are
going
to
have
a
hearing
it's
in
the
middle
of
being
scheduled
about
the
sort
of
overall
spending
of
the
city
arc
of
money.
So
we'll
make
sure
that
that
the
information
on
that
gets
to
you
once
it's
scheduled
all
right.
Next
up
tiger.
N
Thanks
again,
but
I
I
do
want
to
say
one
thing
that
should
be
said
is
at
our
negotiation
sessions.
I
invite
all
the
councils
that
would
like
to
come
in
and
sit
in
and
actually
sit
at
the
table,
so
you
can
hear
what
goes
on,
and
I
would
also
like
to
invite
the
man
to
come
sit
across
from
us,
as
previous
administrations
have
done.
When
times
get
tough
like
this
man,
menino
came
and
set
up
the
table
across
from
us.
N
L
L
P
Thank
you
and
again
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
counselors
and
for
calling
this
hearing
today
and
listening
to
us.
I
also
want
to
just
piggyback
on
what
tom
was
talking
about
with
the
monies
and
that
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
raised
during
this
pandemic
are
the
state
of
our
buildings
and
when
we've
offered
across
you
know,
the
air
exchange
rates
are
supposed
to
be
six
or
higher
many
of
our
buildings,
not
just
at
bpl
but
across
the
city.
Do
not
have
those
protections
do
not
have
good
filtration.
P
B
Great,
thank
you
alyssa
all
right.
Next
up,
we've
got
sorry
just
getting
back
to
my
list.
Ben
siegel
and
after
ben
it'll
be
dana,
so
I'm
just
gonna
promote
you
through
so
and
just
I'll
remind
folks.
So
we
do
ask
people
to
state
their
name
and
residence
or
affiliation.
You
know
your
neighborhood
or
town
is
fine,
and
then
we
ask
people
to
keep
their
comments
for
two
minutes
just
so
we
can
get
through
everybody
who's
on
the
list.
B
If
you
hit
that
two
minute
mark
you'll
see,
my
dab
will
go
up
as
a
visual
sign
that
it's
time
to
finish
one
moment
and
and
so
then
we
just.
I
just
ask
you
to
conclude
your
remarks.
I
also
just
want
to
add
and
counselor
baker.
I
see
you
I'll
come
to
you
in
a
sec,
just
a
reminder
to
everybody
that
that
it's
important,
you
know
we
make
public
testimony
available
for
everybody,
everyone
to
express
their
views.
B
You
know
people
have
passionate
views
on
this
topic
and
they're
welcome
to
express
them
here.
This
is
a
kind
of
fbp
guided
public
broadcast,
so
you
ask
that
people
keep
all
language
appropriate
and,
and
you
will
be
cut
off
if,
if
you're
not
before,
I
go
to
public
testimony,
I
saw
a
hand
up
from
counselor
baker.
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
him
say
a
word.
B
That,
because
I
know
that
we,
you
know,
there
are
some
people
who
don't
have
the
video
feature,
but
I
would
say
that
to
counselor
baker's
point,
I
think
and
to
the
point
that's
been
raised
about
how
these,
how
these
doers
don't
model
in-person
hearing.
But
it's
always
great.
If
we
can
see
the
person
who's
speaking.
Q
Good
afternoon,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
testify.
My
name
is
ben
siegel,
I'm
a
retired
pediatrician
47
years
at
boston,
medical
center,
professor
of
pediatrics,
at
boston,
university,
born
in
boston
and
have
lived
in
the
south
end
for
more
than
50
years.
I
support
mayor
wu's
policy
that
mandates
for
vaccination
for
city
workers
pending
changes
in
public
health
data
is
important.
The
science
is
there.
Q
We
are
in
a
public
health
crisis
that
can
only
be
solved
by
universal
vaccinations
which
are
safe
and
effective
and
limit
the
spread
of
the
covid
virus,
including
delta
and
omicron
variants,
and
I
repeat
that
limit
the
spread
of
those
viruses.
Government
mandates
are
effective
in
addressing
a
public
health.
Emergency
state
law
supports
mandates
in
a
public
health
emergency.
Q
Q
in
1905,
the
supreme
court
of
the
of
the
united
states
in
the
case
of
jacobson
versus
massachusetts,
upheld
that
massachusetts
could
mandate
vaccinations
for
all
people.
Justice,
john
marshall
highland
noted
according
to
settled
principle.
The
power
of
the
state
must
be
held
to
embrace
at
least
such
reasonable
regulations
established
directly
by
legislative
enactment,
as
will
protect
the
public
health
and
the
public
safety
and
further
explain.
There
are
manifold
restraints
to
which
every
restraints
to
which
every
person
is
necessarily
subject
for
the
common
good.
Q
F
R
Hi
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
dana
dipelto.
I
live
at
111
claiborne
street,
madam
chair
thanks,
so
much
for
allowing
public
testimony.
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
it's
disappointing
the
public
still
has
to
continue
to
sit
until
the
end
of
a
hearing
to
voice
concern,
as
this
is
not
our
full-time
job
to
sit
and
listen
to
ramblings
that
we
hear
day
in
and
day
out
of
nothing
necessarily
that
has
changed.
R
I
do
want
to
note
I'm
just
surprised,
aside
from
counselor
murphy
and
councillor
baker,
who
I
do
support
on
this
hearing,
that
there
should
be
no
difference
in
the
mandates
that
were
blocked
by
the
united
states
supreme
court
against
osha
back
in
january
that
they
were
requiring
vaccine
mandates.
That
would
have
impacted
80
million
people.
So,
although
we
are
only
talking
close
to
400
representatives
of
the
city
in
boston,
I
think
we
need
to
stop
looking
at
the
underserved
community
and
start
looking
at
those
that
actually
serve
our
community.
R
The
metrics
that
are
being
used
in
the
doctor
of
public
health
has
mentioned
it
prior
is
most
of
which
are
from
an
underserved
community,
and
I
do
speak
frankly,
and
I
do
apologize.
That's
not
necessarily
my
problem.
That
seems
to
be
a
problem
in
respect
to
their
own
personal
health
and
their
own
decisions.
R
So
that
should
not
be
a
conversation
that
should
be
part
of
our
vaccine
mandate
requirements,
and
I
do
want
to
respect
the
unions
for
their
res
for
their
historical
history
of
bargaining,
and
I
asked
all
the
city
councilors
listening
that
they
are
not
asking
for
much.
They
are
only
asking
to
respect
the
weekly
testing
and
for
anyone
sitting
on
this
meeting,
thinking
that
that's
too
much
is
only
thinking
of
their
personal
politics.
Thanks.
S
Okay,
can
you
sorry
about
that?
I'm
on
two
different
zooms
and
I
miss
the
was
the
first
notice.
Is
it
okay?
Is
it
okay
to
start
okay
awesome.
Thank
you
kind
of
counselor
bach
for
running
this
today
and
thank
you
for
all
the
counselors
present
name
is
jonathan
cohen,
testifying
in
a
personal
capacity
today,
I'm
resident
of
the
fenway
wearing
many
hats.
I
wanted
to
thank
the
city
for
the
city's
work
on
the
coveted
crisis
really
from
the
start.
S
S
What,
if
one
one
of
the
stressful
facts
for
that
there,
that
there
is
no
major
religion
that
that
opposes
covet
vaccination
and,
I
think,
is
an
important
thing
whenever
talking
about
mandates
that
even
christian
science
and
that
they
have,
I
live
right
across
from
their
large
on
their
large
plaza.
Even
the
church
of
christian
science
encourages
its
members
to
obey
vaccination
requirements.
S
So
I
think
that's
something
important
to
keep
in
mind
when
thinking
about
people
who,
at
this
point
are
resisting
vaccination,
that
the
religious
grounds
really
aren't,
aren't
there
for
it,
and
that
medical
exemptions
are
always
respected,
and
one
of
the
important
reasons
for
maintaining
high
vaccination
rates
across
is
so
that
those
who
have
those
medical
reasons
for
not
being
vaccinated
can
go
without
being
vaccinated.
I
think
it's
kind
of
the
during
the
covet
crisis.
S
S
As
as
situations
kind
of
change
and
as
data
and
kind
of
as
data
changes,
since
we
that
there
can
be
a
kind
of
a
responsiveness
to
that,
but
it
is
important,
especially
one
point
um's
mind
is
that
people
don't
often
don't
have
that
there
are
so
many
ways
in
which
people
will
interface
with
the
city
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
some
of
those.
Some
of
those
are
a
choice
and
some
of
those
aren't
a
choice
of
interfacing
with
the
city.
S
So
it's
something
that
is
somewhat
different
when
it
comes
to,
let's
say
going
to
a
restaurant
that
you
can
simply
choose
not
to
do
so.
Public
health
becomes
even
more
important
when
it
becomes
to
engaging
with
the
public,
as
well
as
protecting
the
health
of
all
of
the
members
of
the
of
the
city
workforce
because
of
the
great
work
they
do
and
just
want
to
commend
the
great
work
that
so
many
of
the
city
workers
who
have
been
our
essential
workers
have
done
during
the
copic
pandemic.
B
T
Thank
you,
madam's
chair,
thank
you
all
city,
council
members,
a
special
thanks
to
you,
chair
bach,
councilor
baker
and
murphy.
Your
initiative
is
dually
noted,
I'm
here
to
say
the
city's
behind
you
and
we
support
your
efforts.
My
name
is
john
daly
teacher.
In
roxbury,
I
represent
the
teachers
association
of
the
boston
first
responders,
united,
we're
a
civil
rights
organization
founded
to
protect
all
workers,
civil
rights.
T
I
know
today's
hearing
is
primarily
focused
on
the
labor
rights
and
contractual
rights
of
workers,
but
we
believe
the
civil
rights,
our
labor
rights,
and
they
cannot
be
separated
to
that
end.
I'd
just
like
to
submit
some
letters
from
a
diverse
group
of
teachers
and
I
would
like
to
read
some
excerpts
from
three
of
those
letters
to
you
now.
T
T
The
challenge
to
a
whole
new
level
and
the
gaping
wound
that
will
be
created
by
this
mandate.
Has
the
blood
of
so
many
of
our
black
and
brown
educators
flowing
from
it
young
and
experienced
women
and
men
will
be
leaving
our
system
as
they
decide
to
remain
true
to
their
thoughtful
and
very
personal
health
care
decision.
T
T
How
will
we
explain
to
our
students,
so
many
educators
of
color
are
being
terminated
when
we
devote
ourselves
to
teaching
our
students
that
they
can
achieve
their
dreams
regardless
of
race,
religion
and
disability?
Another
piece
from
lara
ross.
This
was
sent
earlier
to
the
school
committee,
the
mou's
controversial.
At
the
very
least,
in
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting,
we
opened
on
a
closed
union
meeting
with
the
mayor.
This
is
at
a
btu
meeting
with
the
mayor,
who
respectfully
is
not
a
dude's
paying
member.
T
T
You
know
teachers
want
to
exercise
the
freedom
of
healthcare
choices
are
being
labeled
as
unvalidated.
We
as
a
school
district,
are
attempting
to
move
forward
or
towards
inclusivity
and
bringing
down
barriers.
This
mou
labels
a
whole
group
of
people
based
on
their
healthcare
choices
and
then
requires
them
to
be
segregated
using
their
own
sick
time
based
on
quote-unquote
science.
This
is
a
month
where
we
remember
and
teach
about
the
struggle
to
end
segregation.
U
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
give
testimony
today.
Thousands
have
lost
their
lives
to
covet
enormous
sacrifices
have
been
made
in
the
past
two
years.
Families
separated
in
times
of
extreme
need
the
elderly,
isolated
children
denied
a
proper
education
and
necessary
social
interaction.
Jobs
lost
hospital
work
is
overextended
with
all
that.
How
is
it
that
those
who
are
supported
by
taxpayer
dollars
are
unwilling
to
do
their
part
for
the
public
good.
U
B
Thank
you
janet
next
up
is
the
portion
the
portion
we're
trying
to
bring
you
over
just
for
folks
who
are
testifying.
So
you
know
you
do
have
to
accept
our
like
invitation
to
be
a
panelist.
So
just
watch
your
screen
when
you're
coming
up
and
well
we're
getting
to
porsha
in
just
after
her
will
be
laurel
radwin.
D
V
It
was,
though,
that
there
shouldn't
be
a
mandate,
one
being
that
there's
still
people
out
there
that
are
vaccinated,
that
are
still
that's
still,
that's
still
catching
covid.
Where
else
do
I
go
with
this?
Everyone?
Oh
sorry,
vaccinated
people
are
still
catching
covid.
There
hasn't
been
a
long
enough
study
to
even
give
out
a
vaccine,
and
then
they
want
to
talk
about
black
residents,
who
are
black,
yeah
black
residents
not
being
vaccinated.
V
It's
like
how
can
you
trust
the
government,
a
system
where
they
have
time
after
time
showing
us
that
they
don't
care
about
our
health.
They
don't
care
about
our
well-being.
If
they
really
cared,
then
they
should.
They
would
offer
people
to
boost
their
immune
systems
by
eating
healthier.
Instead
of
pushing
a
a
vaccine
on
on
people
and
and
children,
I
just
I'm
just
against
it
and
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
have
my
thoughts
together.
V
B
B
W
Yeah,
I'm
eager
to
testify
put
on
everything
I
had.
Thank
you
very
much
to
the
makers.
Thank
you,
counselor
bach,
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
lori
radwin
I've
been
an
acute
and
critical
care
and
hospital
nurse
for
all
of
my
nearly
all
of
my
decades
long
career,
I've
taught
critical
care
and
acute
care
as
well,
and
I'm
also
a
health
services
researcher.
W
I
have
had
boots
on
the
ground
during
endemics
and
pandemics,
including
legionnaires
disease.
When
we
didn't
even
know
the
cause
of
agent,
I've
been
in
an
icu,
then
with
h1n1
and
so
forth.
So
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
also
a
health
services
researcher.
So
I'd
like
to
comment
on
the
docket,
the
docket
begins
with
statements
about
cobia
19
that
require
clarification,
specifically
even
viruses
that
are
in
labs.
Only
such
as
small
packs
can
theoretically
be
transmissible
for
the
next
hearing.
W
The
testimony
might
include
those
who,
even
with
vaccination,
may
get
coveted,
including
those
undergoing
cancer
treatments
having
had
organ
transplants
and
the
like.
On
the
other
hand,
the
upcoming
docket-
I
guess,
because
this
one's
on
might
will
about
be
about
common
goods
and
resources
with
rights
and
public
health
is
the
focus
at
this
stage.
My
attention
as
a
nurse
and
a
resident
has
shifted
away
from
vaccine
requirements,
rather
I'm
looking
at
boston
as
a
whole.
W
The
mental
health
of
nurses
who
are
leaving
the
field
would
seem
to
require
testimony
from
a
boston
member
of
the
american
association
of
critical
care
nurses,
not
in
itself
of
the
union.
Hospital
and
clinic
chiefs
of
staff,
can
speak
to
the
loss
of
preventive
care,
screening
and
effective
care
health
care.
Economists
can
reflect
on
the
zero-sum
game
when
cobia
19
treatment
costs
eliminate
financing
other
health
initiatives.
W
In
some,
it
seems
to
me
that
the
union
issue
cannot
be
divorced
from
the
public,
good
and
public
health.
In
these
covered
times.
Testimony
from
experts
is
warranted,
along
with
the
unions
and
the
few
cob
administrators
that
were
named
at
last
week's
council
meeting.
I
also
just
want
to
add
the
koba
dashboard
is
not
intuitive.
However,
it's
been
my
experience
that
the
most
up-to-date
data
is
available
at
least
twice
a
week,
so
I
hope
that's
helpful
and
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I've
mailed
this
testimony
to
the
relevant
counselors.
So
thank
you.
X
Yes,
matt,
I'm
sure.
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
me
today,
city,
council
members,
everyone
talks
about
science.
Let's
look
at
the
science
of
this
quickly.
Hundreds
of
people
are
working
in
city
hall.
It's
been
shown.
Studies
have
shown
that
people
that
that
have
been
vaccinated,
revaccinated
and
boosted
can
still
get
covered.
X
However,
our
mayor
appears
to
believe
that,
as
long
as
you're
fully
you're
fully
vaccinated
that
you
can
walk
into
a
building
with
a
few
hundred
people
and
then
no
one's
walking
in
that
building
vaccinated
if
it
was
truly
about
health,
every
city
worker
who
walks
into
a
city
building,
should
be
tested
on
it
on
a
daily
basis.
If
this
wasn't
a
political
issue
and
it
was
a
health
issue,
that
would
be
the
case
when
it
comes
to
the
businesses.
X
X
Pull
figures
out
of
the
air
and
use
them
to
hold
the
people
of
this
city
hostage,
and
I
would
just
like
to
comment
on
the
unions,
real,
quick
boston,
patrolman's
association,
the
firemen's
union
and
other
unions,
as
councilman
flynn
knows,
councilman
flaherty
knows
knowing
the
union.
Well,
you
cannot
just
arbitrary
arbitrarily
toss
collective
bargaining
agreements
into
the
waste
basket
because
you
don't
like
them
and
that's
exactly
what
has
happened
here
and
what's
what's
sad
here
is
that
man
who
was
a
mayor?
Does
she
not
have
any
respect
for
contracts?
X
X
B
B
So
if
you,
if
you
want
to
give
public
testimony,
if
you
can
just
raise
your
hand,
that
would
be
great
and
ralph
if
you're,
the
last
name
that'd
be
great,
and
then
I
would
just
say
I
also
did
have
a
sign
up
from
alex
stein,
who
I
don't
see
so
alex
if
you're
watching
it
on
the
live
stream.
Please
do
log
in
now
I'll
go
to
db
db,
you're,
muted,.
Y
Y
Is
this:
in
late
2020
the
state
changed
how
they
calculated
positivity
rate
from
positive
per
person,
positive
test
per
person
to
positive
tests
for
to
the
number
of
tests
given,
and
that
made
the
rate
look
much
slower.
I
mean
there
wasn't
any
less
covert,
but
the
rate
really
dropped
dramatically,
and
I
don't
know-
and
I
can't
seem
to
see
online-
how
the
city
calculates
that
rate,
but
I
think
that
it's
important
to
be
mindful
about
which
one
the
city
is
using
and
what
the
ramifications
of
that
are.
Y
Y
I
want
to
say
also
that
I
have
been
a
member
of
a
union
and
I
have
utmost
respect
for
the
unions
and
when
I
think
back
on
all
of
the
union
activities
I
took
part
in,
and
I
took
part
in
a
lot
of
them
and
never
would
it
have
crossed.
I
don't
think
anybody's
mind
that
it
was
a
union
right
to
do
something
that
affected
public
safety
or
potentially
affected
people's
safety.
Y
Y
It's
been
vaccinated
and
maybe
boosted
we're
actually
thinking
about
going
out
to
dinner
tonight,
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
one
of
the
ways
boston
will
move
ahead
economically
and
socially,
is
by
having
more
people
feel
safe,
whether
it's
interacting
with
police
people
at
city
hall
or
going
into
restaurants,
and
so
I
I
applaud
the
measure
and
I
do
and
I
would
like
to
get
an
answer
to
which
calculation
the
city
is
using.
Thank
you.
B
B
G
B
G
Well,
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
I
think,
there's
some
some
discrepancies
in
an
80
percent
vote
of
their
body
and
a
and
a
like
an
e-board
decision
there.
So
I'd
like
to
get
some
clarification,
I
mean,
I
know
it's
bargaining,
but
I'd
like
to
know
what
that
vote
vote
looks
like.
I
know.
That's
question
form
we're
at
we're
at
the
end
here.
If
there
is
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
if
not,
I
can
probably
figure
that
out
on
my
own,
but
I'd
like
to
that
to
be
part
of
the
record.
G
What
was
the
actual
vote?
Was
it
a?
Was
it
a
membership
vote?
Was
it
an
e-board
vote
because
again
looks
like
it
happened
behind
closed
doors
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
that's?
What
we're
trying
to
shed
a
light
on
here.
Thank
you,
aaron
for
filing
this
hearing.
Thank
you
all
to
to
all
the
unions
that
make
the
city
actually
work
and-
and
I
know
that
you
care
about
the
city
and-
and
there
was
one
thing
that's
I
see
thrown
out
there-
a
lot
that
the
the
unions
are
greedy
and
they're
looking
for
payday.
G
This
is
not
about
a
payday
there's,
there's
no
talk
of
of
extra
money,
or
anything
like
that.
This
is
this
is
just
around
the
vaccine
just
around
the
mou
that
we
that
we
have
there
and
so
just
wanted
to
make
those
couple
of
points
again.
Council
block.
Thank
you
for
your
shepherding
through
this
hair
today,
I
know
it
was
not
easy.
B
C
We
have
questions,
but
I
do
feel
like
the
questions
I
have
now
are
coming
out
of
having
more
knowledge
and
being
able
to
move
forward,
and
I
do
hope
that
the
unions
are
able
to
sit
down
soon
with
this
administration
and
that
we're
aware
of
that
and
supporting
as
it
goes
forward-
and
I
did
also
just
want
to
thank
the
public
testimony,
the
people
who
came
on
at
the
public
testimonial
and
listening
to
your
you
know
your
comments
and
your
questions.
So
thank
you.
C
B
Thank
you
so
much
councilor,
murphy
and
again
I
just
want
to
echo
the
thanks
to
everybody
who
testified
and
everybody
who
sent
in
written
testimony
and
also
to
the
labor
partners
and
to
the
administration
for
justifying
and,
of
course,
all
my
colleagues
with
that.
This
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All.