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Docket #0160 - Message and order authorizing the City of Boston to accept and expend the amount of Five Million Dollars ($5,000,000.00) in the form of a grant, awarded by the United States Department of the Treasury, to be administered by the City’s Chief Financial Officer/Collector-Treasurer, from the Coronavirus State and Local Fiscal Recovery Fund in the Treasury of the United States established by Section 9901 of the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021
B
B
Calling
this
hearing
to
order
for
the
record,
my
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district
8
city
councilor
and
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council's
committee
on
boston's
kobit,
19
recovery.
I'm
joined
here
today
by
my
colleagues
council
president
ed
flynn
of
district
two
councillor
michael
flaherty
at
large.
Also
the
vice
chair
of
this
committee,
councilor,
julia
mejia
at
large
and
counselor
russia
legion
at
large,
and
very
pleased
to
be
holding
this
hearing
today.
B
and
we're
very
pleased
to
be
joined.
Today.
From
the
administration,
by
our
chief
of
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
at
segan,
iraw,
sorry
who
is
has
is
not
a
stranger
to
this
chamber,
but
this
is
his
first
time
appearing
before
us
as
a
chief,
because
it
is
also
our
first
hearing
of
the
new
session,
so
we're
very
excited
about
that
and
joining
him
as
well.
B
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
also
been
point
been
joined
by
counselor
kendra
lara
from
district
six
and
I'll
just
note
for
counselors
and
sorry
and
counselor
frank
baker
from
district
three
I'll
just
know
for
counselors
that,
because
it's
an
appropriation,
we're
going
to
go
straight
to
the
administration
for
information
on
it
and
then
we'll
go
to
counselors
for
questions
in
order
of
arrival.
I
just
want
to
stress
for
our
new
colleagues
that
this
hearing
chamber
is
not
the
same
as
the
council
floor
for
meetings.
B
So
any
speaking
you
do
in
this
hearing.
Any
asking
of
questions
does
not
constitute
your
maiden
speech
on
the
council.
It's
a
it's
a
different
metaphysical
virtual
space,
and
so
people
are
welcome
to
weigh
in
with
their
questions
and
comments
without
worrying
about
breaking
that
ritual.
So
now
I
think
I'd
I
don't
see
any
further
colleagues.
Who've
joined
us,
so
I
I
will
just
remind
counselors
that
the
deck
for
the
presentation
from
the
administration
is
in
your
inboxes
and
I'll
pass
it
over
to
chief
adobo.
C
I
want
to
thank
you,
chair
bach,
and
vice
chair
flaherty,
president
flynn,
members
of
the
council,
my
colleagues
who've
joined
me
and
members
of
the
public
for
joining
this
conversation
virtually,
and
I
want
to
express
my
gratitude
to
all
of
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
today,
especially
on
this
topic
of
getting
relief
to
our
small
businesses,
which
is
important
to
all
of
us.
As
you
mentioned
chair,
I
am
not
a
stranger
to
these
hearings
at
the
council.
C
It's
it's
a
little
weird
but
exciting
at
the
same
time
to
be
on
the
other
side
of
it
representing
the
administration,
and
I
have
to
say
that
I
am
humbled
by
the
opportunity
to
move
from
being
an
advocate
for
change
to
an
applicator
of
it
and
working
in
partnership
with
all
of
you
for
that,
as
well
as
appreciate
the
opportunity
to.
As
you
mentioned,
this
is
the
inaugural
hearing
of
the
city
council,
and
it
happens
to
also
be
my
inaugural
here.
C
Under
the
leadership
of
midori
murakawa,
our
deputy
chief
they've
accomplished
the
herculane
task
of
pushing
out
as
much
money
as
possible
to
small
businesses
across
our
city
and
my
former
role
at
the
black
economic
council
of
massachusetts.
We
actually
lauded
the
city
for
the
shape
of
its
grant
program
which
we're
discussing
today,
not
only
was
the
application
simple,
but
the
award
amount
and
the
process
was
straightforward.
D
How
about
now,
yes,
keep
trying
to
use
these
headphones
and
they
are
failing
me,
so
my
apologies,
everyone.
Thank
you.
So
much
chief
thank
you
counselor
park
for
inviting
us.
Thank
you,
counselors
for
being
here
today.
I'm
super
excited
to
share
with
you
our
plans
for
these
five
million
dollars
to
continue
to
support
small
businesses
throughout
the
city
of
boston
council.
Is
it
helpful
if
I
just
share
my
screen
the
presentation?
D
D
All
right-
and
I
will
go
through
these
slides
quickly.
You
have
the
content
in
front
of
you
and
I
know
we
shared
some
spreadsheets
as
well.
So
if
there
are
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to.
Let
me
know,
but
I
don't
want
to
spend
a
ton
of
time
on
the
presentation,
as
this
information
is
in
your
in
your
inboxes,
so
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
quick
overview.
To
date,
we've
issued
29.7
million
dollars
to
5600
businesses,
as
you
can
see
on
on
the
in
the
graph
to
the
right.
D
D
D
So
we
know
food
service
and
production,
restaurants,
arts
and
entertainment,
and
fitness
wellness
and
recreation
businesses.
However,
that
doesn't
mean
that
if
somebody
has
received
funding-
and
they
are
in
one
of
these
other
categories-
that
they
won't
receive
funding,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
these
top
industries
get
funding
sooner
and
more
rapidly
than
the
than
the
others.
D
The
other
piece
which
I
already
mentioned
is
that
businesses
don't
don't
need
to
to
reapply.
We
want
to
continue
to
review
applicants
and
the
reason
we're
asking
folks
not
to
reapply.
Is
it
because
it
does
create
more
of
more
work
for
my
team
to
review
every
single
application
and,
if
folks
are
already
in
there,
we
don't
want
to
risk
duplication
of
duplication
of
efforts,
because
all
of
those
applicants
have
already
been
reviewed.
D
D
D
As
a
each
business
can
create,
so
if
a
business
owner
has
two
locations,
they
would
create
two
businesses
on
in
the
portal
that
are
assigned
to
each
of
their
business.
This
is
a
really
simple
process
so
that
all
of
the
really
heavy
information
vendor
id
information
addresses
demographics
and
public
business.
D
It
is,
it
is
just
a
small
business
really
fun
to
2.0,
but
in
the
future
and
in
the
past
there
have
been
additional
current
applications
in
this
portal.
So
once
the
business
is
already
established
in
the
registry,
the
grant
applications
are
very
easy
to
submit
to,
and
every
single
applicant
for,
every
single
application
we'll
be
able
to
review
their
status.
So
they'll
know
exactly
where
they
are
in
the
process,
and
you
know
they
can
ask
questions
about
that,
but
we
will
revert
people
back
to
the
portal.
D
This
portal
will
also
help
us
collect
the
compliance
requirements
of
this
grant
so
approved
for
any
approved
application.
There
will
be
a
receipt
upload
section
where
they
can
tell
us
exactly
how
they're
spending
these
these
funds
give
us
that
proof
that
snapshot
of
of
that
expense
and
it
allows
them
to
be
compliant.
D
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
relief
fund
to
date,
so
this
is
the
start
of
a
dashboard
that
we're
working
on
that
will
be
available
to
the
public,
which
will
showcase
all
of
the
different
demographics
of
the
biz
of
the
the
recipients
of
this
grant.
Just
at
a
very
high
level,
we've
had
over
2400
applicants
and
those
24
applicants
have
requested
over
40
million
dollars,
so
there's
a
very
clear
need
in
the
business
community
for
these
funds.
D
And
so
we
will
that.
This
is
why
you
might
see
some
of
these
skewed
numbers
in
certain
applicants
versus
approved.
We've
also
seen
a
lot
of
need
in
in
the
completion
of
these
applications,
so
a
lot
of
folks
will
submit
incomplete
applications
or
will
have
questions
about
their
applications,
so
we're
doing
a
lot
of
outreach
and
one-on-one
support
on
these
businesses.
D
So
this
is
why
you
may
see
a
slightly
different
percentages
of
applicants
versus
approved
applications,
and
now
I
have
the
pleasure
of
turning
it
back
over
to
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
next
steps
in
our
partnership.
Work
to
ensure
that
these
small
business
relief
fund
dollars
get
out
to
our
hardest
hit
communities
and
that
we
can
actually
leverage
lots
of
this
collaborative
effort
to
further
impact
businesses
and
support
them
in
in
other
ways.
So,
chief.
C
Thank
you
very
much
so
just
quickly
walking
through
what
the
next
iteration
of
what
we
would
like
this
next
iteration
to
look
like
you
know,
as
natalya
raised
at
the
beginning
with
the
numbers
you
know,
2
400
applicants
only
600
approved
expressing
the
need
for
40
million
dollars.
So
we
know
that
the
5
million
that
we're
requesting
will
not
be
enough
to
cover
the
huge
need
out
there
that
businesses
are
looking
for
and
need
at
the
moment.
C
They
have
an
opportunity
to
get
up
to
75
000
from
the
state
and
their
pool
of
money.
So,
in
our
conversations
with
the
state
where
we
are
now
folks
that
are
applying
to
boston
and
being
awarded,
also
have
you
know,
it
shows
that
they're
eligible
to
have
the
information
etc.
We'll
have
the
opportunity
to
be
shepherded
through
the
system
on
the
state
level.
C
So
that
they're
not
left
out
of
getting
that
support,
but
we
also
know
because
all
of
this
has
been
about
the
grant
money
and
coming
from
my
previous
role,
what
we
know
is
that
grant
dollars
are
not
the
only
thing
that
help
a
business
survive.
In
fact,
whether
you
get
twenty
thousand
dollars,
seventy
five
thousand,
if
you
get
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
it
does
not
guarantee
that
your
business
is
going
to
survive.
C
Folks
who
are
helping
you
determine
how
best
to
invest
this
money
and
providing
months
and
months
of
support
beyond
that
to
either
give
you
mentorship
advice,
etc
to
help
you
grow
your
business
based
on
that
investment,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
partnering
with
small
business,
strong
one
of
our
local
ta
providers
here
in
the
city,
who
will
be
operating
as
a
clearing
house
ensuring
that
those
who
are
applying
for
boston
grants
are,
you
know,
on
the
application
they'll
check
off.
You
know
we're.
C
Okay
with
you,
sharing
our
information
with
a
third
party,
we're
interested
in
technical
assistance,
and
so
small
business
strong
will
help
funnel
these
businesses,
whether
they're
approved
for
an
award
or
not
to
the
appropriate
provider
of
technical
assistance
to
help
that
business
grow.
So
as
an
example,
if
you're
a
food
business
we
all
know
and
love
commonwealth
kitchen
and
so
small
business
strong,
would
direct
that
business
to
commonwealth
kitchen
for
additional
technical
assistance,
support
to
to
address
any
other
issues
in
the
business
and
etc.
For
all
other
businesses.
C
Important
to
know,
too,
that
small
business
strong
is
part
of
a
larger
collective
called
the
coalition
for
an
equitable
economy,
which
is
about
almost
100
different
ta
providers
from
across
the
state.
The
the
languages
they
cover
are
comparable
with
the
languages
that
are
that
our
application
is
provided
in
and
so
end
of
the
day.
We
wanted
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
expand
beyond
just
the
grants
in
boston,
but
to
connect
folks
to
other
opportunities
beyond
our
city
limits,
as
well
as
long-term
technical
assistance.
D
Thank
you
chief
and
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
communicate
with
folks
the
ways
in
which
we're
doing
outreach.
So
we
host
a
weekly
small
business
conference
call
where
we
offer
interpretation
services
in
spanish,
vietnamese
and
chinese.
We
also
offer
additional
languages
upon
request.
We
also
send
out
weekly
newsletter.
D
We
will
be
starting
and
have
already
gotten
the
chance
to
do
business
walks
with
marawu,
but
we'll
be
starting,
more
consistent
walks
with
the
chief
and
we
invite
all
of
you
to
participate
in
in
those
walks
as
well,
and
then,
obviously
you
all
have
incredible
constituent
services
and
access.
So
we
urge
you
counselors
to
please
help
us,
but
the
word
about
these
grants
and
make
sure
that
your
constituencies
are
engaged
in
this
process
as
well.
D
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation.
Before
I
go
to
questions,
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
right
after
I
did
recognitions,
we
were
joined
by
counselor
brian
morrell
of
district
four
and
councillor
tanya
fernandez,
anderson
of
district
seven
and
since
they're,
both
new
counselors.
I
will
repeat
what
I
said
at
the
start,
which
is
that
this
committee
room
metaphysical
virtual
committee
room
is
a
different
virtual
space
than
the
council
floor
in
the
meeting,
and
so
you
can
feel
free.
E
B
B
So
this
is
from
counselor
liz
braden
of
district
nine,
who
wrote
to
say
dear
chair
bach,
I
am
regretfully
unable
to
attend
this
afternoon's
committee
on
boston's
coping
19
recovery
hearing
on
docket
0160
regarding
a
grant
from
the
coronavirus
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
fund
established
by
the
american
rescue
plan
act.
I
kindly
ask
that
you
submit
this
letter
into
the
record
as
the
district
city
councillor
for
austin
brighton.
B
My
office
has
encouraged
neighborhood
businesses
to
apply
for
the
small
business
relief
fund,
while
austin
brighton
businesses
submitted
110
total
applicants
applications
38
grants
were
distributed
to
our
district
further.
Our
neighborhoods
are
home
to
a
diminishing
number
of
commercial
properties
designated
for
light
industrial
use
and
I
hope
to
see
more
relief
being
directed
to
these
businesses.
B
I
look
forward
to
ongoing
conversations
to
increase
the
geographic
distribution
for
the
next
round
of
funding,
providing
assistance
to
an
estimated
300
additional
small
businesses
in
the
city.
My
staff
will
attend
the
hearing
to
take
notes
and
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
committee
report.
Thank
you
again.
That's
from
councillor
liz,
braden,
boston
city,
council
for
district
9,
austin
wright.
B
B
But
just
so
everyone
knows
it's
flynn,
flaherty
mejia,
luigen,
lara
baker,
warrell
fernandez,
anderson
and
then
we've
just
been
joined
as
well
by
councillor
aaron,
murphy
at
large,
but
president
and
oh,
and
because
we
again
have
some
new
folks
in
general.
We
try
to
keep
questions
to
kind
of
like
five
minutes
at
a
time.
So
you
know
you
ask
your
first
couple
of
questions.
Get
responses
from
the
administration.
B
If
you've
got
a
second
round
of
questions,
that's
perfectly
fine,
but
you
save
them
for
the
second
round,
so
that
we
don't
have
a
situation
where
one
counselor
is
going
back
and
forth
for
20
minutes.
While
everybody
else
is
waiting.
So
that's
our
ask
for
people
is
to
kind
of
respect
a
sort
of
round
system
and
if
I,
if
you
maybe
perhaps
lost
track
of
time
and
have
been
going
on
for
quite
a
while,
you
may
see
me
raise
my
gavel
in
the
screen.
B
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
cheer
mark
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
team
that
is
here
today.
Thank
you
to
the
administration
team
for
the
great
work
that
you've
been
doing
during
this
pandemic
as
well.
I
have
one
quick
question
and
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
chief,
that
you
you
mentioned
it
natalia
as
well
as
it
relates
to
the
city
council.
I
know
I've
gone
on
different
walks
with
the
mayor
at
various
business
areas,
so
I
have
a
large.
F
I
have
a
large
district
that
includes
a
lot
of
women-owned
businesses,
a
lot
of
businesses
owned
by
communities
of
color
and
immigrants
as
well.
Tell
me
how
specifically
you're
going
to
engage
district
councillors,
how
you're
going
to
engage
at
large
counselors
in
this
outreach
and
working
with
your
team
to
make
sure
businesses
in
our
city
get
the
right
information
at
the
right
time,
including
in
the
right
language.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that.
C
So
you
know
one
of
the
first
ways
I
you
know
is
not
only
through
this
hearing
but
sending
you
all
the
information
we
have
about
these
grants
once
available.
In
addition
to
that,
as
natalia
mentioned,
there's
the
walks
that
we're
doing
because
one
of
the
things
we
know
is
that
not
all
of
our
businesses
are
connected.
C
Virtually
not
everyone
has
a
laptop,
not
everyone
has
access
to
the
internet,
and
so
the
the
walks
are
meant
to
not
only
embrace
our
boston
roots
and
the
cold
and
get
more
acquainted
with
that,
but
really
to
meet
our
businesses
face
to
face
and
provide
support
if
necessary,
right
there
on
the
spot.
You
know
I'm
sure
there
are
other
ways
and
we
are
absolutely
open
to
any
other
thoughts
or
ideas
from
the
council.
C
But
for
me
it's
very
important
that
we're
going
directly
to
businesses,
because
even
in
previous
iterations
of
the
fund
there
were
some
who
again
just
there
was
an
older
barbershop
owner
who
you
know.
I
remember
having
to
go
visit
to
help
apply
for
this,
because
he
didn't
he
had
a
laptop
and
didn't
know
how
to
use
the
internet.
So
things
like
that,
so
those
are
some
ways
that
we
plan
on
engaging
the
council
but
look
forward
to
again
to
other
thoughts
or
ideas
that
you
may
have.
D
Yes,
I
was
just
going
to
add
one
more
piece,
so
so
we've
also
done
a
lot
of
one-on-one
support
for
businesses.
So
if
you
all
encounter
any
business
that
needs
specific
support,
our
team,
my
team,
has
helped
people
with
limited
technology
access,
limited
language
access
and
we'll
actually
sit
with
that
business
owner
and
go
through
the
application
and
fill
it
out
with
them.
So
that
is
another
option.
F
F
B
Before
I
go
to
the
next
speaker,
I
just
want
to
say
two
things.
One
is
just
if
you
are
watching
this
and
you
want
to
testify
on
this
hearing.
I
think
we
may
be
having
some
trouble
with
the
committee
emails.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
folks
to
email
our
committee
staff
directly,
so
that's
michelle
m-I-c-h-e-l-l-e
dot,
a
dot
goldberg
g-o-l-d-b-e-r-g
at
boston.gov,
so
michelle.a.gov
boston.gov,
and
if
you
need
the
zoom
link,
so
you
can
come
and
testify.
B
E
E
But
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
on
behalf
of
all
the
folks
that
I
represent
across
the
city,
particularly
the
businesses
that
did
reach
out
to
me,
and
my
staff
and
you've
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
and
we're
fortunate
as
a
city
to
have
such
a
dedicated
professional
in
your
spot.
So
I
just
wanted
to
pass
those
kind
words
along
and
say.
Thank
you
shifting
gears
to
questions
right
beyond
prioritizing
the
three
business
types
that
were
outlined
in
the
presentation.
E
Are
we
looking
at
certain
industries,
for
example,
and
I
think
about
you-
know
southwestern
waterfront?
The
ray
flynn
marine
industrial
park
wide
ed
circle,
the
meat
packing
and
fruit
produce
areas,
good
blue
collar
jobs,
the
seafood
processing,
the
fish
cutting
the
meat
packing
they've,
been
they've,
been
hit
extremely
hard.
E
I
noticed
that
they
accounted
for
about
15
of
the
total
applications,
but
were
awarded
less
than
one
percent,
so
I
I
want
to
get
a
sense
as
to
what,
if
anything,
are
we
doing
for
those
certain
industries
that
basically
are
back
of
the
house
for
the
the
a
lot
of
the
restaurants
and
shops
and
retails
that
we've
been
talking
about,
and
what
can
we
do
just
to
bring
some
relief
to
them?
That's
my
first
question.
E
The
second
question
is,
I
guess,
how
do
we
determine
the
appropriate
grant
size
amount
based
on
what
we're
seeing
in
in
in
those
applications
and
and
then
lastly,
obviously
in
council
of
president
foreign?
How
can
we
be
helpful
as
council
is
to
I
guess,
to
leverage
our
relationships
with?
You
know
the
small
businesses,
the
folks
that
I
was
putting
in
touch
with
natalya
early
on
in
in
the
pandemic
throughout
the
pandemic,
but
as
well
as
on
main
streets
and
in
our
chamber
of
commerce's.
So
that's
it
for
me.
E
I
just
want
to
kind
of
identify
again
to
recap:
what
are
we
doing
for
those
industries?
The
thousands
I
think
about
the
ray
flynn
marine
industrial
park.
I
want
to
say
that
there's
8,
000
employees
and
growing
that
go
down
to
the
park
and
predominantly
they're
in
the
seafood
processing,
cold
storage,
freight
forwarding
ship
repair.
E
Again,
you
know
good,
paying
jobs,
good
blue
collar,
paying
jobs
with
benefits,
but
those
industries.
Those
companies
took
it
right
on
the
chin
because
they
were
being
asked
to
supply
less
or
to
store
less
because
the
restaurants
weren't
ordering
because
they
were
closed.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
losing
sight
of
those
very
precious
industries
that
call
boston
their
home
and
they've
been
really
mainstays.
E
A
lot
of
them
are
multi-generational
companies
that
put
as
I
referenced
just
the
rafale
and
marine
industrial
apocalypse.
That's
8
000
employees.
Then
you
talk
about
over
at
the
meatpacking
district,
then
you
talk
over
at
why
debt?
That's
a
that's
a
ton
of
that's
a
that's
a
ton
of
economic
opportunity
there
so
and
then
again,
how
do
we
determine
the
size
of
the
grant?
The
second
question,
the
third
one
was:
what
can
we
do
to
be
helpful.
D
Thank
you
counselor,
and
thank
you
for
those
kind
words
really
really
kind
of
you.
So
the
first
question,
so
I
think
when
we
first
started
doing
the
relief
funding
for
small
businesses,
we
kind
of
had
to
put
some
parameters
around
those
business
types
one.
We
worked
really
closely
with
the
bpda
research
team
to
identify
those
industries
that
our
hardest
hit
that
were
hardest
hit
and
continue
to
be
hardest
hit
and
then,
with
the
second
parameter,
was
really
the
business
size.
D
However,
over
the
course
of
the
last
18
months,
we
have
been
trying
to
identify
ways
to
support
larger
businesses,
and
particularly
you
know
in
those
industries
that
you
named,
but
also
in
the
entertainment
industry
and
other
really
hard
hit
industries
that
tend
to
be
larger
businesses,
which
oftentimes
our
funding
has
been
very
limited
and
so
and
those
businesses
tend
to
need
more
funding.
So
I
definitely
welcome
an
opportunity
to
partner
with
you
counselor
to
to
think
about
ways
to
support
those
larger
companies
through
really
funding.
D
So
we
did
ask
for
very
explicit
and
descriptive
budgets,
including
what
the
relief
funding
would
be
for
and
what
the
growth
funding
would
be
for
now.
Obviously,
almost
every
business
requested
the
full
20
000,
but
maybe
only
supported
parts
of
that
in
their
budget
request,
and
so
we
are
going
through
budget
by
budget
and
looking
at
what
folks
are
asking
for,
we
put
together
some.
You
know
structures
for
us
to
be
able
to
help
guide
how
much
each
business
would
be
receiving.
D
A
lot
of
business
owners
were
able
to
give
us
exact
dollar
amounts
of
the
things
that
they
needed
to
purchase,
which
means
makes
it
a
little
bit
easier
because
they
have
to
demonstrate
to
us
exactly
how
those
funds
are
used
as
they
align
to
what
they
ask
for.
We
needed
to
be
really
really
intentional
about
funding
people
based
on
what
they
said
that
they
needed
versus
what
they
requested.
D
If
that
makes
sense,
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
chief,
obviously
I
think
on
my
end,
I'm
I
love
partnering
with
all
of
you.
We've
I've
partnered
with
every
counselor
here
at
some
point,
I'm
super
excited
to
partner
with
some
of
the
new
counselors,
but
you
know
we
work
with
the
main
streets.
We
work
with
different
commercial
districts
and
anywhere
where
you
want
to
be
involved
where
your
contacts
could
be
really
helpful
for
us
to
connect
with.
C
Right
I
mean
on
on
the
issue
of
of
how
do
we
work?
You
know
more
closely
together,
you
know,
even
if
it's
you
know
continues
to
be
virtually,
but
all
of
you
have
your
own
unique
reaches
across
the
city
and
across
your
districts,
and
so
even
if
it's
a
one-on-one
virtual
conversation
where
folks
tune
in
to
get
more
information,
things
like
that
are
showing
up
to
local
media
that
are
that
have
a
large
reach
in
your
community
to
get
the
information
out
there
end
of
the
day.
C
E
Very
good,
thank
you
chief
and
natalia,
and
just
a
quick
footnote
is,
if
you
just
keep
a
close
eye,
particularly
on
businesses,
that
in
our
city,
that
border
communities
that
don't
have
the
vax
mandate.
So
it's
easy
to
pop
over
to
quincy
it's
easy
to
pop
over
to
somerville
or
to
chelsea
or
to
cambridge
or
to
dedham,
and
I
think
that
we're
going
to
stop.
We
have
already
been
hearing
from
businesses
that
that
neighbor,
those
you
know
those
cities
and
towns
that
don't
have
the
backs
mandate.
E
For
that
reason,
so
I
just
want
to
be.
We
want
you
to
be
cognizant,
clearly
we're
looking
at
the
communities
and
the
industries
that
have
been
hardest
hit,
but
I
just
want
to
raise
and
lift
that
up
that
there
are
good
small
local
businesses
that
are
on
you
know
on
the
border,
if
you
will
and
folks
that
just
don't
want
to
deal
with
that
they're
just
going
to
go
right
across
the
street
or
into
a
neighboring
community
and
spend
their
hard-earned
tax
dollars
or
their
hard-earned
money
and
savings
in
those
businesses.
E
B
G
Yeah,
thank
you
to
everyone
happy
and
congratulations.
Counselor
bach,
for
sharing
your
first
hearing
in
this
committee
and
to
all
of
my
colleagues.
So
just
really
quick.
I'm
gonna
go
dive
right
into
questions
here.
I
see
that
you've
bolded
certain
types
of
businesses
for
priority
funding,
given
the
impact
the
vaccine
mandate
has
had
on
them,
but
I'm
curious
to
learn
while
child
care
providers
are
not
on
that
list,
especially
given
how
hard
the
pandemic
has
been
for
child
care
providers
across
boston.
G
I'm
also
curious
when
you
say
that
duplicate
applications
will
not
be
considered.
Does
that
mean
that
businesses
would
are
not
able
to
receive
grants
for
both
the
relief
grant
and
the
growth
grant?
How
are
we
communicating
that
to
applicants
because
I
reviewed
on
the
website?
It
did
say
that
people
can
apply
for
both.
So
if
you
could
just
provide
some
clarity
around
what
that
commit,
communication
looks
like,
and
will
the
funding
be?
First
come
first
served:
are
we
going
to
award
grants
based
on
their
applications?
G
If
so,
how
are
we
measuring
business
qualifications
to
receiving
the
fund,
and
how
are
we
ensuring
that
this
funding
is
going
to
small
businesses
and
communities
that
have
been
the
hardest
hit
by
the
pandemic?
I
know
you
had
just
mentioned
some
data
collection,
but
I'm
just
thinking
about
particularly
dorchester
roxbury
mattapan
in
east
boston
kind
of
what
the
rollout
is
for
community
engagement
and
outreach
to
these
neighborhoods.
D
Now,
thank
you
councillor,
mejia,
so
just
quickly,
and
that,
let
me
know
if
I
miss
any
of
your
questions.
The
first
around
child
care,
so
child
care
has
been
a
top
priority
for
for
our
office
and
actually
pre
pandemic.
We
started
focusing
more
on
helping
those
business
owners
actually
see
themselves
as
business
owners.
A
lot
of
them
just
saw
themselves
as
service
providers.
D
As
far
as
I
can
remember,
there
have
been
no
child
care
businesses
that
have
not
yet
been
funded.
They
are
part
of
that
priority
group
with
with
the
initial
funding,
so
they
they
are
receiving
those
funds.
The
second
piece
of
your
question:
it
is
one
grant,
but
there
are
two
components,
so
businesses
can
apply
for
both
the
relief
and
the
growth
or
just
one
or
the
other.
We've
had
all
of
the
scenarios
where
somebody
just
needs
help.
D
You
know
getting
up
to
date
with
their
their,
you
know
their
rent
and
but
they
don't
want
to
grow
their
business,
and
so
they'll
only
apply
for
the
relief
funding.
What
what
I
mean
by
duplicate
applications
is
that,
if
you
as
a
business
owner,
you
know
one
location,
we
don't
want
you
to
reapply
for
the
application.
If
you
haven't
been
funded
because
we
still
have
your
application
on
file,
we
have
not
done
any.
First.
D
Come
first
serve
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
because
we
want
to
have
an
equitable
lens
on
how
these
funds
are
distributed.
We
have
focused
on
neighborhoods,
we've
focused
on.
Obviously
we
have
larger
commercial
districts
across
the
city,
so
you
know
a
space
like
back
bay
or
you
know
the
south
end
where
there's
a
larger
cluster
of
businesses.
G
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I'm
just
curious.
Will
people
be
provided
feedback
as
to
why,
if
they
don't,
if
they
don't
receive
their
funds,
why
and
then
what
kind
of
technical
assistance
are
we
providing
to
folks
so
that
when
they
blow
up
our
phone,
I
didn't
get
it
so
I
want
to
know
some
really
good
language
that
you
all
want
me
to
share
with
folks
and
then,
more
importantly,
you
know
I
have
a
growth
mindset
and
I
do
believe
that
when
people
know
what
they
could
be
doing
differently,
they
usually
act
accordingly.
D
Yeah,
so
most
of
the
people
who
have
not
secured
funding
is
because
they're
not
in
the
priority
industry
types
which
we
basically
have
put
those
applications
on
hold.
We
have
communicated
with
all
of
those
business
owners
saying
at
this
time.
We
can't
fund
them,
but
if
we
get
additional
funding
we
will
we
may
revisit
their
application.
That's
not
going
to
happen
for
a
lot
of
the
professional
services
industries.
D
It's
not
going
to
happen
for
a
lot
of
businesses
that
contractors
that
maybe
don't
actually
have
small
businesses
that
they
instead
are
1099
contractors
we're
trying
to
fund
as
many
businesses
as
possible
within
kind
of
the
space
of
what
we
can.
So
our
kind
of
go-to
language
is
really
around
we're.
Trying
to
you
know
we're
trying
to
fund
as
many
businesses
as
possible,
but
the
money
that
we
have
doesn't
really
allow
us
to
do
that.
So
we
do
have
to
prioritize
businesses.
D
There
haven't
really
been
a
lot
of
businesses
that
we
haven't
funded
because
their
their
application
isn't
complete
or
whatever
we're
working
with
those
businesses
to
make
sure
that
their
applications
get
complete
and
that
they
are
correct.
Some
businesses
that
have
been
rejected
have
been
not
based
in
boston.
They
have
been
too
large
or
haven't,
provided
us
any
documentation
after
continuous
follow-up.
So
we
are
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
every
business
within
these
priority
industries
is
funded,
even
even
if
it
takes
us
longer
to
do
that.
G
G
It
so,
let's
just
keep
moving
the
needle,
and
you
know
our
office
is
always
looking
to
find
ways
to
partner
and
support.
So
once
the
communication
rollout,
because
people
I've
already
sent
folks
the
you
know
the
the
heads
up
that
it's
coming
and
the
first
and
they
say
well,
it
says
september,
I'm
like
yeah,
I'm
just
letting
you
know
it's
about
to
come
out.
So
just
keep
looking.
So
can
you
give
us
a
date
and
when
you
anticipate
that
the
applications
will
be
ready
to
roll
out,
so
the
application.
D
D
G
G
I
will
show
that
if
there
is
a
way
for
you
all
to
clean
up
that
language,
so
that
people
know
that
they
can
start
applying
now
because,
folks,
you
know
this
was
a
week
and
a
half
ago
that
I
sent
this
out
and
people
thought
that
they
had
to
wait,
because
I
said
the
applications
are
not
that
they
need
to
update
it.
So
I
just
think
that
just.
D
C
C
B
You
thanks
for
all
the
good
questions,
councilor
mejia
chief.
I
don't
think
you
can
steal
counselor
mahia's
lines
though,
but
that
seems
like
seems
like
it
shouldn't
be
loud
all
right.
Let's
see
next
up
is
counselor,
lou,
jen
and
then
it'll
be
counselor
lara
and
then
councillor
baker.
I
did
just
want
to
make
one
comment.
As
the
chair
related
to
what
counselor
michio
was
asking
about.
You
know
I
think
that
there's
obviously
a
balancing
act.
B
This
5
million
for
the
small
business
fund
and
in
each
of
those
cases
there
was
sort
of
a
case
for
here's.
Why
I
make
an
exception
and
do
like
one
small
piece
of
this
in
the
case
of
the
8
million
it
was
in
order
to
extend
the
pilot,
so
there
wouldn't
be
an
interruption
in
free
service
of
the
28
bus
and
then
to
sort
of
build
the
branches
out,
and
obviously
we
had
hoped
that
would
have
started
by
now.
B
It's
very
much
being
worked
on,
but
that
was
the
sort
of
justification
under
which
the
council
passed
that
eight
million,
and
then
this
five,
I
think
as
natalya
and
the
chief
have
discussed
today,
there's
a
huge
set
of
backlogged
applications
that
are
sitting
there
already
and
so
the
sense
of
sort
of
timeliness
and
the
omicron
wave
and
the
vax
mandate.
All
of
that
sort
of
contributed,
I
think,
to
the
case,
but
I
just
want
those
who
are
watching
at
home
to
know
that
you
know
I'm
I'm
now
the
chair
of
this
committee.
B
I've
just
been
doing
it
for
five
days,
but
I
definitely
intend
for
us
to
have
that.
Bigger
picture
conversation
and
I've
communicated
that
to
the
administration,
there's
a
hearing
order
that
we
filed
last
week
for
a
hearing
that
I
intend
to
hold
on
kind
of
the
bigger
picture.
Update
of
where
are
we?
How
many
of
these
funds
have
we
spent?
B
What
are
the
accountability
metrics
and
how
are
we
thinking
about
spending
them
overall?
And
I
know
it's
important
to
president
flynn
that
the
council
have
an
active
voice
in
that
and
that
be
them
and
that
we
have
real
public
engagement
and
testimony
on
that,
so
I
just
wanted
to
flag
for
folks
who
are
watching
this
and
saying
wait.
Why
are
we
only
talking
about
the
5
million
shouldn't?
We
be
talking
about
the
whole
thing
that
that's
very
much
a
coming
attraction.
B
We
will
be
talking
about
the
whole
thing
soon
and
we're
not
gonna
just
keep
doing
smaller
appropriations,
but
I
do
think
that
when
this
one
was
proposed
a
few
weeks
back
that
there
were
a
bunch
of
good
reasons
why
time
was
of
the
essence
and
we
shouldn't
keep
these
small
business
owners
kind
of
waiting
on
it.
So
I
just
want
people
to
understand
why
we're
having
a
dedicated
hearing
on
this
appropriation
order
and
not
today
talking
about
the
whole
the
whole
pot.
H
Inks
chair,
I
want
to
give
a
thank
you
to
the
chief
adobe
and
to
director
urduba.
You
guys
have
already
been
so
helpful
in
this
first
month
of
mine,
and
so
I
never
had
a
question
about
small
business.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you.
I
have
four
questions.
I
think
some
of
them
are
pretty
short
once
upon
approval.
H
How
long
will
it
take
to
actually
disperse
the
five
million
dollars,
because
we
see
that
there's
an
outstanding
need
of
like
there's
five
million
dollars
to
date,
there's
40
million
dollars
of
applications
and
I'm
sure
you're
gonna
get
more
so
just
on
that
disbursement
question
at
what
point
will
you
be
able
to
tell
businesses,
okay,
all
the
money's
out,
and
it's
also
just
a
question
to
about
efficiency?
How
how
efficient
are
we
in
sort
of
getting
that
money
out
the
door?
Should
I
just
say
all
the
questions
or
you
know?
H
Okay,
second
question
is:
is
there
overlap,
and
I
think
the
answer
here
is
going
to
be
no,
but
it's
more
of
a
data
question
the
businesses
that
self-identify
as
being
black
or
hispanic
latinx
mwbes
are.
Are
there
like?
Are
we
able
to
do
an
overlap
between
the
ones
who
how
they
self-identify
in
terms
of
their
ownership
and
those
that
have
that
mwbe
certification
I'd
be
curious
to
see
that
data?
H
If
we,
if
we
are
able
to
to
see
that,
and
then
third
is
the
idea
of
like
meeting
folks
where
they
are
all
of
the
ideas
sounded
really
great,
you
know
we're
all
I'll
say
this
for
myself,
I'm
down
to
help
with
the
outreach
to
businesses,
but
I'm
thinking
about
ways
that
we
systematize
outreach
and
and
how
do
we
make
sure
that
no
one
is
getting
lost
here?
None
of
our
businesses
that
can't
use
a
computer
right
like
it's
good.
H
I
know
that
may
require
a
lot
of
man,
bandwidth
and
manpower,
but
I
think
using
ons
and
our
main
streets
is
a
way
in
going
door
to
door.
Physically
is
a
way
to
make
sure
that,
like
all
businesses
are
aware
of
the
money
that's
available,
and
I
think
that
there's
there's
energy,
there
should
be
energy
there
to
to
make
that
happen,
and
then
fourth
is
that
will
any
of
the
other
small
business
relief
programs
that
existed
continue
on
that,
whether
it's
a
restaurant,
revitalization,
the
commercial
rent
program,
any
of
these
relief
programs?
D
D
Typically
just
for
context
for
all
of
you
once
the
application
is
approved,
we
then
will
send
them
a
contract
which
is
basically
just
a
grant
agreement.
Once
we
receive
a
signed
grant
agreement,
that's
when
we
submit
for
payment
and
that
takes
usually
about
a
week
to
a
week
and
a
half
to
submit
payments.
D
Your
question
about
the
overlap
between
mwbes
and
self-certified
businesses.
Most
of
the
businesses
that
are
applying
for
small
business
relief
funding
do
not
tend
to
be
certified.
There
are
some,
obviously
so
that
percentage
is
really
small,
because
certification
is
really
focused
on
procurement.
These
businesses
are
usually
not
offering
procurement
type
services
and
therefore
do
not
get
certified.
D
However,
we
are
trying
to
get
more
data
on
that
and
we
are
working
very
closely
with
the
supplier,
diversity
team-
and
you
know
the
folks
who
do
certification
to
get
more
businesses
through
that
pipeline,
because
I
think
once
businesses
are
certified,
we're
able
to
really
open
doors
for
them
and
they're
able
to
open
doors
for
themselves
in
really
profound
ways.
So
I
don't
have
data
on
that,
but
I
can
try
and
see
how
many
of
them
are
certified.
D
But
really
these
are
kind
of
different
tech
and
data
sets
and
data
data
portals,
and
so
we
oftentimes
don't
we
will,
even
when
we
put
certified
business
on
the
application
for
demographics,
a
lot
of
non-certified
businesses
will
check
that
box.
So
it's
not
super
clean
data
because
it
just
doesn't
exist
that
way.
Unfortunately,
touching
on
the
outreach
piece,
I
want
to
note
that
my
team
does
canvas.
We
canvas
regularly
about
two
to
three
times
a
year.
D
Pre-Pandemic
we've
been
doing
that
as
a
way
of
meeting
and
greeting
business
owners,
particularly
in
those
areas
that
don't
have
main
streets
just
to
make
sure
that
no
one
is
falling
through
the
cracks.
We
could
work
really
closely
with
main
streets.
We
share
information
with
them.
We
ask
these
students
to
help
us
distribute
that
information.
D
So
while
they
may
not
be
like
business
walks
that
are
very
highly
visible,
my
team
is
spending
significant
amount
of
time
in
all
of
the
districts
on
a
regular
basis,
just
engaging
with
their
business
owners.
In
addition
to
kind
of
these
very
targeted
canvassing
opportunity,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
the
reason
why
you
know
we'll
drop
off
our
cards,
and
you
know
some
in
some
literature.
D
A
lot
of
that
doesn't
always
get
to
the
business
owner
the
business
owner's,
not
always
there.
So
we,
you
know
we'll
continue
to
to
do
that.
But
I
I
again
I
would
love
for
any
one
of
you
to
join
us
on
those
on
those
walks
or
campuses
at
any
point
in
time,
because
I
do
think
the
visibility
that
you
bring
to
the
table
allows
us
to
get
more
people
engaged
with
our
office
and
then
finally,
your
question
about
all
the
other
funds
and
whether
or
not
we'll
replenish
them.
D
I
would
love
that,
so
I
will
we.
We
have
run
out
of
money
in
all
of
those
funds
and
so
every
time
that
we,
so
let
me
give
just
a
tiny
bit
of
background
and
context.
Every
fund
that
we
have
put
out
has
been
directly
tied
to
what
we
hear
from
small
businesses
and
their
immediate
needs,
and
this
last
kind
of
round
of
surveys
that
we
did
with
small
businesses.
D
It
really
indicated
that
they
wanted
some
more
flexible
funding
for
other
things
that
were
not
just
relief,
which
is
why
we
did
this
growth
piece.
Rent
continues
to
be
an
issue,
so
you
know
there
are
opportunities
for
us
to
think
about.
You
know
2.0
or
3.0
of
all
these
funds,
but
I
do
think
we
have
to
be
really
responsive
to
the
intended
use
of
these
funds,
which
is
covered
recovery
and
relief,
and
so
I
think
that
has
been
the
way
that
we've
been
focusing
all
of
these
funds.
D
B
A
A
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
small
businesses,
particularly
restaurants,
that
are,
you
know,
prioritized
here
in
jp,
and
you
there's
a
stark
difference
between
the
restaurants
and
jp
who
have
received
aid
and
the
ones
who
haven't,
and
so
I
think
that
that
is
more
of
a
commitment
and
a
hope
than
a
than
a
question.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councillor
lara,
it's
nice
to
meet
you
just
just
so.
You
know
we
do
offer
all
of
the
applications
since
the
very
beginning
in
11
languages,
which
does
not
mean
that
there
is
accessibility
there.
I
I
totally
get
it.
I
also
want
to
just
note
that
in
my
office
in
particular,
we
have
spanish
speakers-
vietnamese
speakers,
french
haitian
creole,
and
so
if
there
are
ever
businesses
that
you
come
into
contact
with
that,
do
need
that
direct
support
right
away.
A
A
I
know
that
the
city
does
a
really
great
job
I
like
translating,
but
when
we
make
announcements,
it's
kind
of
like
one
tone
in
terms
of
like
we're
doing
it
virtually
it's
on
the
tv
and
maybe,
and
so
I
think
that
the
direct
outreach
that
you're
doing
is
really
impactful
and
I'm
sure
that
you
need
support
from
the
district
offices
to
make
sure
that
you
get
to
everyone.
So
I
am
offering
that.
C
C
B
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
for
ms
herron,
and
thank
you
chief,
I'm
a
natalia,
I'm,
a
small
business
guy
small
business
owner.
So
this
is
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
I'm
looking
forward
to
you
know,
collaborating
and
working
with
you
guys
and
bringing
more
relief
to
the
small
business
sector.
I
I
D
D
I
would
say
the
majority
of
businesses
are
still
requiring
rent
relief
for
their
commercial
space,
but,
alternatively,
we've
also
seen
some
really
great
consistency
around
investment
in
the
growth
of
their
business
through
marketing
and
technology,
which
is,
I
think,
really
great.
We
saw
a
lot
of
businesses
have
to
pivot
during
the
pandemic,
went
from
no
technology
whatsoever
to
learning
technology.
D
While
we
have
not
had
the
capacity
to
reach
out
to
every
business
that
has
received
funding,
we
have
heard
about
for
most
of
these
businesses,
how
thankful
they
are
and
how
helpful
this
money
has
been
to
keeping
them
in
their
commercial
space
or
keeping
their
doors
open
or
keeping
their
employees.
You
know
with
jobs,
so
we
will
continue
to
do
outreach.
All
of
those
folks
are
added
to
our
newsletter.
D
So
any
new
resource
that
we
put
out
there,
including
our
regular
programming,
which
is
a
ta
pro
t,
a
technical
assistance,
the
restore
design
program,
et
cetera
those
continue
to
to
be
kind
of
a
pipeline
into
those
programs.
So
we
let
folks
know
about
all
the
different
services
that
we
provide
so
that
they
know
how
to
reach
us.
I
love
the
idea
of
a
mailing
to
all
the
businesses.
D
Mailings
are
really
expensive
and
I
will
definitely
take
this
back
and
see
if
and
obviously
I'll
ask
the
chief
in
just
a
minute
to
touch
on
that.
But
mailings
are
an
option.
I
do
want
to
note
that
not
we
do
not
have.
While
we
have
kind
of
the
addresses
of
all
the
commercial
storefronts.
That
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
they're
going
to
the
business
owners
directly.
Sometimes
that
goes
to
the
landlords.
So
that
is
a
great
option.
D
But
again
those
canvassing
canvases,
where
we
go
around
and
chat
with
individuals
is
a
really
great
tool
for
for
us
and
then
finally,
we,
our
technical
assistance
program,
is
always
taking
new
providers.
We
created
a
rolly
basis,
which
is
the
first
time
ever
in
the
procurement
process,
to
do
that.
We
did
that
just
just
before
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
which
actually
was
perfect
timing,
where
every
first
of
the
month,
the
applications
are
due
to
be
considered
they're
available
in
the
procurement
portal
at
boston.gov
forward,
slash
procurement.
D
We
encourage
technical
assistance
providers
to
submit
applications
because
it
does
help
us
further
support
businesses
in
all
the
different
elements
that
they
might
need
from
accounting
to
marketing,
to
legal.
To
co-ops.
To
you
know
you
name
it.
We
have
providers
there.
So
I'm
happy
to
send
you
more
information
on
that
as
well.
B
Thanks
so
much
counselor,
where
are
you
all
set?
Yes,
thank
you
great.
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
we'll
go
back
to
councillor
baker
at
the
end,
I'm
going
now
to
councillor
fernandez,
anderson
and
then
it'll
be
councillor
murphy
and
then
we
were
joined
some
time
ago
by
councillor
ricardo
arroyo
from
district
5..
So
he's
also
here
and
he'll
be
third
councillor,
fernandez
anderson.
You
have
the
floor.
J
Hi
everybody.
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
I
appreciate
this
is
my
first
time
talking
or
commenting
or
questioning
so
for
the
record.
It's
now
my
maiden
speech
right:
okay,
okay,
all
right
so
hola,
natalia
dr
edua,
somebody
just
said
he's
not
a
doctor.
Why
do
you
keep
saying
that
I
was
like
he's
my
doctor?
That's
it!
That's
that
that's
what
I'm
gonna
take
it
out.
J
Work
so
hey,
so
I
have
about
just
two
questions,
and
maybe
a
comment
really
appreciated
this.
The
wrap
around
technical
assistant
idea
would
love
to
meet
with
you
very
soon.
I
have
something
that
I'm
working
on
to
file
it's
going
to
take
all
of
my
peers
to
support,
and
I
think
it's
innovative.
I
think
it's
really
great.
D
So
the
requirements
for
approval
are
complete
applications
which
indicate
that
a
business
is
in
fact,
operating
in
boston
does
have
an
address
in
boston
and
is
a
legitimate
business,
and
you
know
so
as
long
as
they
submit
all
of
that
information,
and
we
can
verify
that.
That
is,
though,
that's
the
extent
of
the
requirements.
D
I
don't
believe
any
of
them
are
legally
binding
until
except
for
the
grant
agreement
which
they
signed,
which
is
a
is
a
legal
contract
that
says
that
they
will
use
the
funding
that
they
received
in
the
way
that
they
intended.
So,
for
example,
if
you
tell
us
you're
going
spend
ten
thousand
dollars
on
rent
and
then
you
spend
ten
thousand
dollars
in
a
different
way.
That
is
a
legally
binding
contract.
J
D
It
so
they,
the
condition
of
the
application,
is
that
they
are
in
good
standing
with
the
city,
which
means
that
they
can.
They
don't
owe
the
city
money,
although
they
can
get
in
good
standing
and
then
receive
those
funds,
and
that's
there's.
I
believe
that
there's
two
kind
of
pieces
there-
one
it
is
policy,
but
the
second
piece
is
that
the
arpa
funds
are
restricted
to
business
development.
So,
for
example,
we
can't
use
federal
funds
to
for
them
to
then
pay
the
city
back
with
they
owe
the
city
and
so
a
business.
D
That's
not
in
good
standing
that
hasn't
paid
their
taxes.
It's
you
know
the
policy
side
is
you
know
we
have
to
be
really
careful
that
we're
not
giving
people
money
if
they're
not
paying
their
their
part
in
the
tax
piece,
but
the
other
piece
is
the
the
legal
constraints
of
the
actual
dollars
at
hand.
J
So
that
I
understand
that
we
cannot
use
money
in
order
to
for
them
to
be
in
good
standing
right
for
them
to
pay
back
in
order.
The
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
the
policy
itself
that
restricts
us
from
qualifying
them.
The
policy
itself,
our
policy
in
the
city.
We
cannot
help
them
if
they're,
not
in
good
standing.
They
don't
qualify
right,
correct
like
for
this.
We
can't
use
that
money
federal
money
to
do
it,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
I
come
in.
I
owe
some
money
right.
J
D
I
believe
that
is
just
silly,
not
just,
but
it
is
city
policy,
and
I
I
can't
speak
to
it.
We'd
have
to
talk
to
the
a
f
team.
This
is
something
that
the
the
threshold
of
what
puts
somebody
in
good
standing
is
not
very
high,
and
there
are.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
instances
where
businesses
owe
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
the
city
of
boston,
which
makes
it
really
really
challenge
a
challenging
issue.
D
J
How
are
we
measuring
whether
or
not
you
know
if
that-
and
I
think
chief
you
mentioned
this
right
like
it-
doesn't
necessarily
mean
10,
15,
000
or
even
20,
50
000-
that
afterwards
right,
we
know
that
the
technical
assistance
is
needed.
But
beyond
that
it
has
to
be
sort
of
like
a
continuity
of
investment
right.
More
than
technical
support
of
how
you're
investing
your
money
right
and
how
are
you
looking
at
marketing
and
all
these
technical
assistance?
J
That's
going
to
allow
the
business
to
flourish,
and
so
how
are
we
measuring
in
terms
of
when
we
get
them
to
15
000
and
that
gets
them
into
out
of
that
temporary
barrier
and
then
what?
What's
the
next
step
right
so
that
I
think
that
metric
is
going
to
take
us
to
the
next
level
so
that
we
can
have
the
backup
to
this
five
million
thing,
and
so
with
that-
and
I
I
welcome
your
feedback
please
with
that.
I
wonder
also
in
terms
of
equity.
J
C
But
it's
a
it's
a
good
question
and
when
we
as
we're
building
out
what
this
program
looks
like
definitely
we'll
make
sure
that
the
monitoring
piece
is
a
huge
piece
of
that.
You
know
to
the
other
points
that
you
raised
again
absolutely
correct,
which
is
why
you
know
in
my
opening
remarks.
This
is
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
need
to
do.
It
is
not
the
only
thing.
C
The
grant
itself
is
not
going
to
save
many
of
our
businesses
and
that's
why
this
has
to
be
part
of
a
larger
effort
of
a
series
of
policies
that
are,
you
know,
obviously,
through
the
equity
lens
that
are
focused
on
helping
our
communities
thrive.
So,
beyond
this
grant
beyond
the
ta,
it's
why
we
need
to
be
focused
on
things
like
commercial
acquisition.
It
needs
to
be
why
we're
focused
on
things
like
incubator
programs,
that
connect
folks
to
these
vacancies
rebate,
programs
that
help
folks
with
rent
etc.
J
Thank
you
so
much.
My
last
comment,
I
guess,
is
just
about
refreshing,
dr
chief,
I'm
still
gonna
call
you
doctor,
so
I
my
last
comment.
I
guess
is
about
the
policy,
the
city
policy,
it's
stupid.
We
should
get
rid
of
it.
We
sh
we
can't
like
if
you're.
If
I
owe
the
city
money,
I
need
money.
Okay,
let's
get
rid
of
it.
That's
it!
Thank
you.
C
J
K
Thank
you
thank
you,
chief
and
chair
and
natalia
for
this.
It's
been
very
informative
and
my
colleagues
for
your
questions.
So
throughout
the
campaign
and
the
first
few
months
in
office
here
I
have,
I
continue
to
intentionally
visit
small
businesses
in
every
neighborhood.
So
it's
great
to
hear
that
you're
doing
what
I
already
hear
like
even
this
morning,
two
small
businesses
asking
for
the
support
that
your
office
is
already
providing.
K
So
I'm
happy
to
know
that
if
I
reach
out
to
you,
I
can
connect
them
to
services
if
it's
technology
or
just
knowing
where
to
find
the
grant.
All
of
that
is
so
important.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
also
very
hopeful
and
happy
to
hear
how
you're,
proactively,
reaching
out
to
small
businesses
and
supporting
with
you
know
and
trying
to
break
down
those
barriers.
K
Many
of
my
questions
were
asked
and
answered,
but
one
thing
I
do
want
to
know
is:
is
there
preference
to
boston
resident
owned
businesses
that
the
owners
actually
live
in
boston,
not
just
own
a
business
here
in
boston?
Do
we
give
preference
to
those
businesses
or
give
them
more
money
or
something?
Is
there
some
difference
when
deciding.
D
D
It
is
not
a
disqualifying
factor
if
a
business
owner
doesn't
live
in
the
city,
nor
is
it
nor
do
they
get
additional
funds
or
anything
like
that.
We
do,
for
example,
if
there
is
a
franchise
in
boston
and
it's
a
small,
you
know
local
franchise
owner,
we
do
require
them
to
be
boston
residents
in
order
to
receive
funding.
K
Your
department
too,
like,
of
course
the
small
business,
offers
jobs
and
you
know
resource
in
our
neighborhoods,
what's
important,
but
the
profits
if
the
profits
they're
going
to
their.
You
know,
towns
they're,
going
back
to
milton
they're
going
to
need
them
wherever
it
would
be
great
to
know
how
many,
because
I
think
also
it
ties
into
supporting
small
business
owners,
opening
stores
right
supporting
you
know,
residents
to
open
stores
in
our
neighborhoods.
D
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
everybody
for
the
questions
that
you've
been
asking.
I
just
want
to
go
into
really
quickly
the
disparities
between
applications
and
applicants
and
they
approved.
I
know
this
was
touched
on
just
a
little
bit
earlier,
or
maybe
a
lot
of
bit
earlier.
But
if
you
notice
for
every
racial
demographic,
the
approval
rate
goes
higher
than
the
application
rate,
except
for
black
african
american
applicants.
L
D
Yeah,
thank
you
counselor.
So
there's
a
couple
of
factors
that
I
that
again,
we
turn
this
data
around
pretty
quickly,
so
I
haven't
been
able
to
do
a
full
breakdown
of
the
the
numbers,
but
we
did
see
a
lot
of
duplicate
applications,
a
lot
of
incomplete
applications,
and
I
will
also
note
that
we
received
a
lot
hundreds
of
1099
uber
drivers
and
contracted
staff
that
identify
as
black
owned
and
those
folks
are
not
part
of
the
priority
categories,
and
so
those
folks
are
a
huge
percentage
of
the
total.
D
You
know,
for
example,
black
applicants,
and
so
when
we
look
at
the
total
numbers,
though
you're
going
to
see
some
of
those
disparities
because
of
those
kind
of
inherent
application
totals.
I
think
we
because
we're
testing
this
new
technology
and
trying
to
figure
out
all
the
information
that
we
have.
We
haven't
been
able
to
really
dissect
it
too
much
to
actually
see
whether
or
not
those
numbers
equate
to
an
actual
disparity,
because
when
you
think
about
the
actual
approved
totals,
we
are
disproportionately
funding.
D
You
know
minority
owned
women-owned
businesses
as
it
relates
to
the
total
population
or
total
number
of
businesses.
So
we
have
to
do
a
lot
more
investigative
work
around
our
data
to
be
able
to
say
whether
or
not
there's
an
actual
disparity
there,
but
I
I
see
and
that's
why
I
called
it
out
during
the
presentation.
I
know
that
those
numbers
can
show
and
can
be
misleading.
L
So
just
two
questions:
I'm
gonna
piggyback
off
of
this
and
the
first
one
is
you.
You
brought
up
that
this
may
not
be
an
actual
disparity
due
to
the
fact
that
it's
a
certain
percentage
of
the
population
or
certain
population
size
of
the
businesses
in
in
percentages.
It
may
not
be
a
disparity,
but
doesn't
the
fact
that
the
applications,
unless,
of
course,
the
entirety
of
that
difference,
is
that
it's
double
applications
or
multiple
applications
and
that's
what's
causing
that
disparity.
L
Doesn't
this
fact
that
so
many
black
and
latino
businesses
are
applying
for
this
show
that
there
is
some
inequity
or
disparity
in
the
ways
in
which
people
are
being
impacted,
primarily
by
this
at
the
small
business
relief
funds,
if
they're
applying
at
numbers
way
above
the
percentage
of
other
businesses,
but
they're,
a
minor
portion
or
a
much
smaller
percentage
of
the
businesses
in
boston?
Doesn't
that
in
and
of
itself
indicate
that
there
is
some
racial
disparity
in
the
ways
in
which
these
businesses
are
being
hit?.
C
I
I
I
would
just
say
you
know.
I
appreciate
your
raising
that
point
and
just
to
note
that
you
know,
because
of
the
backlog
that
we
have.
One
of
our
priorities
is
making
sure
that
those
numbers
change
when
we
give
you
the
final
report
and
so
making
sure
that
I
think
some
of
those
numbers
are
based
on,
as
natalia
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
some
of
the
incomplete
applications
that
our
folks
are
working
to
help
them
complete.
C
L
D
I
think
they're,
I
don't
know
I
would
be
shocked
if
a
multi-billion
dollar
company
like
uber
and
lyft,
were
you
know
referring
their
their
applicants
this
or
their
contracted
staff
to
us.
But
I
will
say
that,
during
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
when
we
launched
the
reopen
boston
fund,
we
did
include
drivers
taxi
drivers
as
well
as
uber
and
lyft
drivers,
as
a
way
of
getting
additional
funds
to
help
protect
themselves
from
covet
19
by
getting
barriers
and
face
masks
and
ppe
and
all
those
things.
D
D
So
I
think
part
of
that
is
probably
linked
again
once
again
to
the
outreach
efforts
that
our
office
has
done
to
engage
different
business
types,
especially
during
the
times
where
we
had
spikes
in
cases,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
businesses
could
protect
their
staffs
could
protect
themselves
by
by
purchasing
ppe.
So
I
actually
think
the
correlation
is
probably
higher
to
the
reopen
boston
fund
than
to
uber
and
lyft
as
large
companies
directing
their
contractors.
Our
way.
L
If
that's
what
happened
so
I
want
to
know
if
we
had
any
information
as
to
whether
or
not
that
was
something
we
knew,
whether
or
not
anybody
had
put
in
how
they
had
heard
about
it
or
how
they
were
directed
to
it
and
so
specifically
on
the
racial
analysis
of
this.
Are
we
doing
any?
Is
there
any
plan
for
an
equity
analysis
on
this?
This
is
now
small
business
relief
fund
2.0.
Are
we
going
to
do
an
equity
analysis
at
some
point,
or
is
that
in
the
works
already.
L
So
well,
here's
the
deal,
I'm
not
the
expert
on
who's
going
to
be
doing
the
equity
analysis.
So
that's
something
I
would
sort
of
leave
to
you
all.
But
what
I
mean
by
that
is
when
we
have
a
large
percentage
of
folks
who
are
either
not
applicable,
doing
incomplete
apps
or
doing
double
apps
or
things
like
that
is.
Are
we
not
sure
that
there's
not
an
equity
analysis
to
why
that's
happening
across
racial
lines
and
across
different
cultural
or
language
lines?
L
Do
we
are
we
doing
any
kind
of
analysis
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
the
system
or
the
way
in
which
we
engage?
That
system
is
leading
to
those
issues,
because
if
you're
telling
me
that
we
have
a
13
gap
between
black
and
african
american
people
applying
and
then
receiving
or
approved
processes,
and
that
most
of
that
could
very
well
just
be
that
they're
doing
the
applications
wrong
and
then
every
other
group
is
growing
between
approval
and
applications.
C
Yeah
just
to
say
agreed
with
the
counselor,
and
this
is
again
partly
why
we
have
reached
out
to
our
partners
at
the
beginning
of
the
stage
and
at
the
end
of
it.
A
lot
of
it
is
is
that
we
know
that
there
are
issues
and
are
seeking
to
redress
them
through
these
partnerships
and
helping
folks
in
the
application
process
and
then
after
either
being
awarded
or
not
being
awarded.
But
to
your
point,
we
will
conduct
a
more
rigorous
analysis.
L
M
Thank
you,
chad.
Thank
you
for
sticking
with
me
also
your
breakdown
earlier,
I
appreciate
so
we
are
going
to
get
into
the
overall
what
the
opera
money
looks
like
what
the
relief
money
looks
like.
I
appreciate
you
you're
setting
the
record
straight
on
that.
So
to
just
look
at
this
a
little
bit
on
the
graph
that
we
have
in
the
in
our
packet,
the
small
business
relief
fund
started
in
april.
2020
was
that
is.
Are
we
talking
all
federal
money
on
this?
M
You
know
like
it
started
with
six
6
724,
or
is
that
city
of
boston
commitment?
Can
you
explain
like
where
all
these
monies
and
down
the
bottom
of
the
column
is
29
million?
Is
that
all
is
that
natalia
I'm
looking
at
you,
because
it's
probably
answering
it,
I
want
to
frame
it
so
like
has
it
all
been
federal
money
or
how
much
of
that
has
been
a
city
commitment
out
of
the
29
million.
D
Thank
you
councilor.
So
when
we
launched
the
fund
in
april
6th
of
2020,
the
karzak
funding
had
not
yet
come
out.
So
that
was
a
city
commitment
which
was
later
replenished
by
a
cares
act.
It
was
taken
out
of
my
team's
hud
funding,
so
it
was
still
federal
dollars,
but
we've
repurposed
our
restorance
design
and
technical
assistance
dollars.
Accordingly,
with
the
permission,
obviously,
of
hud
to
be
able
to
do
so.
M
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
should
have
before
I
started
my
question
and
chagoon
welcome
it's
good
to
see
you
in
your
role
back
around.
You
came
back
around
to
the
city
council.
Didn't
you
thank
you
for
that
in
in
the
small
business
relief
fund
2.0,
it
has
september
21
8
million.
That's
not
part
of
this
5
million
here
also.
Is
it.
M
Okay,
thank
you.
Those
are
pretty
much
my
questions
and
and
and
kenzie
again.
I
appreciate
you
talking
about
the
money
where
it's
going
to
go,
because
we
we've
already:
it's
been
8
million
for
the
transportation
5
million
on
this
here,
I
believe,
towards
the
homeless.
Sort
of
effort
done
at
mass
and
cass
is
5
million
towards
there.
So
the
money
is,
the
money
is
starting
to
go
out
the
door.
I'd
like
to
you
know,
get
a
handle
of
it.
What
what
is
left
of
that?
M
What
we
saw
is
400
million
in
oper.
You
know
last
year
or
whatever
it
was,
and
my
last
point
that
I
wanted
to
make
is
to
piggyback
on
what
council
flaherty
had
said
about
the
the
passports,
the
passports
and
forcing
people
into
sort
of
city
city
mandates.
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
to
free
up
the
hands
of
business.
I
think
we
should
be
talking
about
the
date
when
we
can
all
take
our
masks
off
and
we
can
we
can
move
freely.
M
I
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
there
and
I
think
we
should
work
with
that
business,
and
I
don't
want
to
hammer
that
too
much
that
if
we're
talking
about
helping
business,
that
would
be
a
way
to
do
it.
Thank
you,
kenzie,
and
I
appreciate
you
sitting
at
the
head
of
this
fund
here.
Thank
you
have
a
good
day.
M
B
So
much
councillor
baker
and
I'm
going
to
move
to
some
questions
from
me
now
and
then,
if
counselors
have
a
follow-up
question,
if
you
would
raise
your
zoom
hand
or
text
me,
so
I
know
because
we
do
have
public
testimony.
I
want
to
get
to
that
as
soon
as
I
can.
But
I
will
do
a
second
round
of
questions
if
anybody's
got
them,
so
I
guess
one
question
natalya
and
once
again
is
just
going
back
to
the
start.
B
Chief,
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
our
effort
to
also
point
people
towards
the
state,
and
I
think
I
want.
I
want
folks
watching
at
home
to
understand
that
we
there's
federal
dollars
that
were
sent
for
covert
relief,
both
at
the
state
level
and
at
the
city
level,
and
so
what
councilor
baker
was
just
talking
about
was
how
we
appropriate
the
city
level
funds.
But
it's
also
really
important
for
us.
B
So
I
wonder
if
you
could
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
from
a
kind
of
like
early
science
perspective.
Do
we
feel
like
boston
businesses
are
getting
their
proportionate
share
of
the
state
level
business
relief?
Have
we
seen
people
kind
of
the
the
folks
who
are
applying
to
our
fund?
Do
we
see
them
picking
up
on
those
state
dollars?
And
I
know
that
early
on
natalia,
we
saw
a
lot
of
people
because
of
the
outreach
you
described.
B
Sorry,
that's
my
entire
book
so
like
coming
to
the
city
fund,
but
not
necessarily
applying
for
the
state
and
federal
funds,
and
we
found
that
we
were
actually
succeeding
in
being
lower
barrier,
which
was
great
except
that
we're
the
ones
with
less
money
than
anybody
else.
So
I
just
wonder
if
you
guys
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
that,
because
I
really,
I
think
we
want
to
get
dollars
into
our
businesses
hands
whether
they're,
ours
or
the
states
sort
of
technically.
D
I
do
know
that
we
have
been
in
a
lot
of
those
conversations,
if
not
all
of
them,
with
helping
businesses
get
to
ppp,
get
to
you
know,
mgcc,
connecting
with
all
the
different
fund
pipelines,
but
a
lot
of
those.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
actual
like
distribution
of
funds
and
how
they're
you
know
chosen,
or
you
know
what
percentage
those
are
given.
We
were
not
part
of
those
conversations,
so
I
don't
have
that
data.
C
Well,
so
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
excited
about
this
particular
partnership
is
that
the
money
that
mass
growth
capital
corporation
has
is
from
the
harpa
funds,
as
opposed
to
where
they
got
it
before
which
they
had
restricted
funds
from
hud
and
other
federal
departments,
which
meant
that
you
know
to
your
point
about
the
barriers.
There's.
C
The
state
is
not
placing
a
huge
amount
of
restrictions
on
access
for
the
50
million
they're
prioritizing
women
and
minority
businesses,
it's
not
just
for
women
and
minority
businesses,
but
it
is
a
priority
which
we
think
will
be
great
because
as
we're,
you
know
we're
connecting
our
folks
to
that
fund
as
well,
but
yeah.
So
you
know
in
the
past
a
huge
amount
of
barriers
on
the
on
the
state
level,
but
I
think
moving
forward
there'll
be
less
of
those
restrictions
because
it's
coming
from
the
arc
of
dollars.
B
That
you
guys
need
to
make
sure.
I
know
that,
for
instance,
that,
like
you
know,
on
the
housing
side,
chief
dylan's
worked
extensively
with
the
state
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
just
that
the
boston
moneys
for
rental
relief
are
going
to
boston
renters,
but
that
also,
you
know
a
share
of
the
massachusetts
like
money
for
rental
relief
for
going
to
boston
renters.
So
just
similarly
here
you
know,
if
you
guys
need
political
muscle,
I'm
sure
the
whole
council
joins
me
in
wanting
to
see
that
happen.
B
B
B
D
As
it
pertains
to
this
individual
fund,
so
if
somebody
has
received
like
the
reopen
bus
in
front
of
the
commercial
rent
relief
fund,
they
can
still
get
funding
this
time
around.
But
if
somebody
has
already
received
small
business
relief
fund,
they're
kind
of
going
to
go
to
the
back
of
the
line.
Sorry
no!
No,
I
just
say
we'll
prioritize
folks
who
have
not
been
funded
yet
and.
B
I
know
that
that
you
were,
you,
know,
saying
we
don't
want
people
submitting
duplicate
applications,
that's
part
of
how
we
get
the
data
challenges.
But
what,
if
somebody
you
know
who
hears
about
this?
They
know
they
have
an
application
in
with
you,
but
something
about
their
situation
has
really
changed,
since
they
put
it
in.
D
Yeah
for
those
folks,
we
we
do
encourage
them
to
reach
out
to
us,
and
let
us
know
what
some
of
those
changes
are,
so
that
we
can
do
it
on
the
back
end.
But
we,
you
know
we
because
of
the
labor
intensity
that
it
that
is
required
to
go
through
every
single
application
for
us
to
re-review
your
business
certificate.
Your
proof
of
address
and
all
of
those
things
it
just
does
require
a
ton
of
work
from
our
office
and
we're
trying
to
avoid
that.
B
It,
and
can
you
refresh
my
memory?
I
should
remember
this,
but
the
on
the
disparity
study
I
mean,
as
you
were
talking.
I
was
thinking
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
like
you
know
your
obviously
you're
talking
here
in
accurate
data
about
people
from
a
whole
bunch
of
different
fields,
but
there's
now
a
number
of
those
fields
where
we
actually
have
some
sense
from
the
disparity
study
of
what
the
like
racial
ethnic
breakdown
of
owners
is
in
these
different
areas.
B
But
I
know
there's
also
a
bunch
of
am
I
right
in
thinking,
so
there's
probably
some
overlap,
but
then
there
are
a
bunch
of
business
areas
that
you're
helping
with
this
fund
that
because
they're,
not
the
type
of
businesses
that
the
city
procures
services
from
we
wouldn't
have
done.
A
disparity
study,
for
instance,
of
like
hair
salons,
because
the
city
doesn't
procure
hair
salon
services.
Like
am
I
right.
B
D
Yeah
we've
been
working
with
the
research
team
as
well
as
the
city
clerk's
office,
on
figuring
out
ways
of
capturing
that
data.
It
doesn't
exist
anywhere
because
my
understanding
is
that
anytime,
a
business
is
registering
to
become
a
business,
whether
it's
at
the
state
or
at
the
city
level,
there's
never
a
place
where
we're
asking
people
their
race
or
how
they
identify
and
therefore
we
just
don't
have
any
of
that
aggregate
data.
So
even
with
the
research
team,
my
understanding
is
they're
still
doing
best
best
guesses.
D
In
all
of
this
context,
so
even
the
numbers
I
have
about
how
many
percentage,
what
the
percentages
of
black
owned
or
latinx
owned
businesses.
You
know
what
those
percentages
are
as
it
relates
to
just
the
business
community
and
not
the
population
size.
It's
a
really
hard
number
to
to
really
hone
in
on.
D
So
we
are
working
on
a
couple
of
options
to
get
better
data,
so
it
doesn't
really
answer
your
question,
but
we
we
are
looking
at
that
and
I
would
refer
back
to
the
disparity
study
on
those
very
specific
industries
and
you're,
absolutely
right
that
there
are
many
industries
that
we
work
with.
That
would
never
engage
directly
with
the
city
in
that
way.
B
Got
it
great
well
I'll
I'll,
just
say
just
to
reiterate
again
for
folks,
so
I
filed
last
week
at
docket.
I
think
it's
194.
with
counselors
braden
and
warrell,
that's
kind
of
more
about
doing
an
overview
of.
Where
are
we
on
the
on
these
federal
funds?
The
city
has
to
appropriate
and
kind
of
how
what's
the
accountability
mechanism.
B
Are
we
thinking
and
how
is
the
public
thinking
about
how
we
should
spend
the
remainder,
so
I
do
expect
to
hold
that
hearing
in
this
committee
sometime
soon,
but
with
enough
notice
for
people
who
want
to
come
and
testify
to
be
aware
of
it.
I
would
just
say
natalia
to
your
earlier
plug
that
I
think
the
more
that
your
office
can
reflect
back
to
the
council
like
hey,
okay,
we
spent
the
5
million.
Yes,
we
have
all
this
unmet
need.
B
We
all
know
that,
like
the
unmet
need
on
the
business
side
is
sadly
going
to
be
larger
than
the
city
could
meet,
even
if
it,
through
all
of
its
covet
recovery
dollars
at
the
business
cause,
there's
obviously
a
number
of
other
competing
needs.
But
you
know
if
there
are
targeted
things
like
oh
we're,
seeing
that
this
sector
and
the
city
of
businesses
like
they're,
not
eligible
for
the
state
and
federal
stuff,
and
they
really
need
these
things.
B
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
part
of
what
you
guys
are
coming
to
us
with
now
with
this
five
million.
But
obviously
I
think,
as
we
continue
to
talk
about
the
whole
picture,
if
if
there
are
targeted
interventions
like
that
and
also
places
like
again
like
you're
doing
with
this,
where
we
can
leverage
the
opportunity
to
have
someone
come
to
us
and
we're
the
entry
point,
but
then
we
also
point
them
towards
bigger
sources
of
funds
like
at
the
state.
I
think
that's.
B
We
have
to
be
smart
about
how
we,
how
we
do
this
and
how
we
like
have
the
greatest
impact,
as
some
of
my
colleagues
were
saying
before,
but
I
want
to
go
now
I'll
just
do
I'll,
I'm
going
to
quickly
go
to
second
round
questions
for
anybody
who
has
them.
I
see
counselor
flynn
up
on
the
screen,
so
I'll
ask
him
if
he
has
any,
but
in
general
it
would
be
great
if
people
could
either
raise
their
hand,
icu
counselor,
media
or
their
zoom
hand.
Just
so
I
know
so.
F
B
G
Thank
you.
I
just
I
have
a
few
follow-up
questions.
One
is
I'm
just
curious.
I
know
once
upon
a
time
we
were
doing
engagement
sessions
with
business
owners
to
give
them
the
head
stuff
that
things
are
coming
down
the
pipeline
just
trips.
If
those
are
going
to
be
initiated,
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
any
any
any
things
in
the
in
the
works
around
focus
groups
to
get
feedback
on
how
we,
you
know
the
rollout
and
how
we
can
streamline
it
and
help
support
businesses.
G
So
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
that
type
of
feedback,
and
then
I'm
just
curious
how
we're
making
this
process
more
transparent?
Is
there
like
a
public
dashboard
of
sorts
that
details
which
businesses
have
been
awarded
and
how
much?
And
what
is
the
tracking
system,
if
any
to
determine
the
impact
of
the
funding
has
had
on
these
businesses?.
D
Thank
you,
counselor
focus
groups
are
a
great
idea
and
just
to
continue
on
your
first
sorry,
I
skipped
your
first
question,
which
was
about
workshops
we
still
host.
Our
small
business
conference
calls
every
single
tuesday,
where
businesses
can
ask
about
their
both
their
status
of
their
application,
but
also
just
any
questions
that
they
might
have
about
this.
D
We
we're
always
happy
to
host
workshops
and
trainings
for
folks
around
different
topics,
and
so,
if
there's
something
in
particular
you'd
like
us
to
focus
on
happy
to
to
host
something
accordingly,
as
I,
as
I
mentioned
during
the
presentation,
there
will
be
a
public
dashboard
for
people
to
have
access
to
the
data
and
and
yes,
we're.
Looking
and
a
couple
other
folks
asked
about
the
impact
which
we
will
hopefully
have
some
information
on
long-term
impacts.
Soon.
Is
there.
G
D
It's
it's
not
an
accountability,
dashboard,
it
is
yeah,
it's
going
to
be
a
demographic
and
an
overview
of
the
grant
funds
as
they've
gone
out.
So
we'll
we'll
have
an
aggregate
number
of
businesses,
as
approved
businesses
like
what
district
or
what
neighborhoods
are
in
racial
breakdown,
total
number
of
businesses.
In
the
past
we
actually
put
the
actual
businesses
that
receive
funding
their
names
on
boston.gov
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
develop
this
dashboard
again.
D
We
are
in
the
process
of
building
it
and
there's
been
some
issues
with
the
technology,
so
we're
we're
working
on
that.
I
was
hoping
to
have
that
ready
to
go
today,
but
it's
not
yet
ready.
It's
it's
all
tied
to
the
applicants.
So
it
is
not.
You
know,
aggregate
data.
It's
not!
You
know
research
data.
It
is
directly
correlated
with
the
applications.
D
G
Yeah,
I
I'd
be
curious
to
get
a.
I
guess,
information
about
the
ones
that
didn't
and
then,
whatever
follow-up
is
put
in
place
to
help
support
those
businesses
that
still
need
some
funding
or
additional
support.
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
can
have
access,
even
if
it's
just
an
email
to
us,
so
that
we
have
a
better
understanding
of
where
we
might
be
able
to
lean
in
a
little
bit
to
connect
people
to
alternative
opportunities.
B
K
Okay,
thank
you.
No
no
question
just
want
to
thank
you
and
I
look
forward
to
working
closely
with
your
office
and
my
team,
my
staff.
We
care
a
lot
about
workforce
development,
small
businesses,
promoting
neighborhoods
and
just
looking
forward
to
the
work
with
you.
So
thank
you
for
this.
It's
been
very
informative.
B
I
think
we're
all
in
this
moment
and
have
been
now
for
two
years
trying
to
think
about
how
you,
how
you
allocate
things
thoughtfully
and
equitably
also
at
the
pace
that
an
emergency
demands
right.
I
think
it's
very
it's
like
that
that
tension
between
oh
it
would
be.
How
do
we
want
to
be
efficient?
We
want
to
get
the
money
out
the
door,
but
then
also
we
want
to
be
fair
and
we
want
to
help
those
who
are
most
impacted.
B
We
did
was
136.5
million
that
we
did
back
in
june
june
30th
in
connection
with
the
budget
in
three
different
dockets,
and
so
I
think
you
know
we
similarly
need
to
be
thinking
about
a
larger
scale
going
forward,
but
I
do
expect
to
recommend
passage
tomorrow.
I'm
gonna
go
now.
Sorry,
chief,
actually
I'll
give
you
a
chance.
If
you
and
your
team
want
to
say
any
closing
words
before
I
go
to
public
testimony.
C
Just
that
I
I
thank
you
all
thank
you,
chair
for
the
opportunity
and
for
your
support
and
we'll
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
your
offices
on
multiple
approaches
to
supporting
and
growing
our
small
businesses,
not
just
this
grant,
but
so
many
other
programs
traditions.
We
can
work
on
to
keep
our
our
businesses
where
they
are
and
to
help
them
thrive.
B
Great
thank
you,
and
thanks
so
much
for
joining
us
for
your
non-goal
hearing
today,
and
thanks
also
to
midori,
who
I
know
was
with
us
earlier
and
has
just
been
great
as
a
partner
with
the
council
as
well.
All
right,
I'm
gonna
go
to
public
testimony
now,
if
you
are
not
already
on
a
zoom,
and
you
want
to
give
public
testimony,
please
email.
B
O
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman,
members
of
the
council,
I'm
going
to
speak
quickly,
so
I'll
stay
in
the
time
frame.
First,
I
thank
you
for
the
hearing.
I
really
appreciate,
if
you
did,
you
couldn't
see
me
so
you
wouldn't
know.
I
was
smiling
when
you
were
talking
about
the
plans
going
forward.
We've
been
anxious
about
this
since
april,
when
the
committee
created
the
the
when
the
council
created
the
coven
recovery
committee,
we
are
excited.
O
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
and
I'm
encouraged
by
what
I
heard,
but
a
couple
of
things
about
the
the
fund
and
where
we
are
number
one.
I
think
that
we
have
a
restaurant
on
dorchester
avenue.
A
50
kitchen
was
a
perfect
example
of
why
you
getting
to
that
next
step
is
so
important.
The
the
restaurant
opened
two
years
ago.
I
missed
a
lot
of
fanfare.
O
Really
exciting,
although
their
food
is
fabulous,
they
announced
two
weeks
ago,
they're
closing
because
they
haven't,
you
know,
incurred
a
level
of
debt
during
covid
that
they
don't
see
their
way
out
of,
and
I
get
it.
Five
thousand
dollars
wouldn't
help
them.
Ten
thousand
dollars
wouldn't
help
them,
but
forty
thousand
dollars
would
so.
This
whole
notion
of
being
able
to
deal
with
with
the
the
businesses
in
their
need
is
important.
So
many
of
the
counselors
ask
questions
that
I
think
are
relevant
to
kind
of
that.
O
That
next
step
council
arroyo
had
questions
about
the
disparity,
and
I
think
that
there
are
clearly
some
answers
to
that
love
to
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
with
the
council
about
what
is
happening
on
on
the
ground.
The
black
and
latino
businesses
were
effectively
shut
out
of
the
ppp
and
sba
loan
process
too
much
fanfare,
it's
public
knowledge,
and
so
the
idea
that
they
would
be
priority
make
sense.
O
But
there
are
a
lot
of
non-minority
businesses
that
are
struggling
in
this
process
and
we're
now
in
our
third
year
of
covid,
and
so,
if
you
think
we
had
businesses
that
were
struggling
in
that
first
year,
there's
nothing
that
has
happened
that
would
have
would
have
stabilized
any
of
the
business
that
we're
talking
about,
and
so
the
conversation
has
to
be
different
and
we're
really
looking
to
the
council
to
do
some
things
that
are
bold.
That
are
transformative
which
really
gets
to
the
process.
O
There
were
many
who
did
not
make
it
through,
and
I
won't
go
into
the
details,
but
there's
a
reason
why
we're
seeing
what
we
see
in
that
disparity?
I
would
also
say
I
don't.
I
don't
share
the
chief's
optimism
that
things
have
changed
on
the
state
level
and
they
will
now
be
a
partner.
Why?
Because
there
is
nothing
on
the
state
level
like
this.
That
is
happening.
There's
not
anyone
going
door
to
door,
there's,
not
anyone
targeting
and
talking.
O
It
is
completely
dependent
on
people
finding
them,
and
then
the
requirements
are
just
like
any
other
loan
program
which
defeats
the
whole
purpose.
And
so
I
don't
think
the
state's
been
a
player-
and
I
don't
see
unless
there's
major
changes,
how
they
become
a
player.
The
reality
is,
is
that
there
is.
There
are
three
things
and
bbcc
has
been
been
consistent
and
insistent.
Since
we
heard
of
the
announcement
in
april,
the
need
home
ownership
is
our
focus.
O
Food
insecurity
is
still
very
real
and
then
the
business
survival
reality
is
going
to
require
some
real
creative
thinking
is,
I
think,
counselor
flaherty
talked
about
this.
What
we're
doing
isn't
enough
and
we
have
an
opportunity
in
the
pool
of
money,
to
do
something
different
and
bold,
that
opportunity
lessens
every
day
if
we
continue
to
pivot
away
and
spot
smaller
amounts
of
five
and
six
and
eight
and
ten
million
that
we
could
really
do
something
that
speaks
to
recovery
and
always
keep
in
in
our
head
fourfo
and
the
forefront.
O
That's
what
this
is
supposed
to
be
about
covet,
19
recovery
and
so
just
kind
of
substituting
what
we
have
for
you
know.
The
kind
of
different
funds
that
might
have
been
available
anyway
is
not
going
to
get
us
to
that
place,
but
there
are
clearly
some
ways
to
do
it,
and
I
really
am
excited
and
anxious
to
see
this
council
step
into
that
space
to
allow
for
the
conversations
to
take
place.
If
you
have
back
taxes,
you
know
I
spent
the
first
covid
thanksgiving
to
christmas,
working
with
businesses
trying
to
save
their
licenses.
O
Their
liquor
licenses,
former
mayor,
put
me
directly
in
touch
with
the
chief
because
outside
of
kobe,
this
is
my
work.
This
is
what
I
do
around
the
focus
of
black
and
latino
businesses
and
the
the
reality
is
mass.
The
city
of
boston
has
over
1500
liquor
and
alcohol
licenses.
Less
than
20
of
those
licenses
belong
to
blacks
and
latinos.
O
That
that's
that's
a
mark,
that
of
shame
already,
but
it
would
be
more
shameful
at
the
end
of
this
process.
We
have
less
than
20
because
they
couldn't
pay
their
licenses
or
license
fees
right
and
believe
me
on
the
ground.
That's
what's
going
on,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
there
just
to
say
we're
ready.
We
are
ready
for
a
hearing
we're
ready
to
present
to
you
when
given
the
opportunity
and
really
appreciate
your
comment
and
kind
of
letting
people
know
kind
of
what's
to
come
because
that's
just
been
our
question.
B
Thank
you
so
much
senator
and
yes,
I
definitely
the
whole
reason
that
I
introduced
in
partnership
with
colleagues.
The
0194
was
so
that
the
council
would
not
be
stuck
having
these
conversations
appropriation
by
appropriation,
but
could
invite
you
know
you
all
and
others
into
a
sort
of
more
global
conversation
on
what's
next,
so
I
look
forward
to
us.
B
Having
that
you
know,
I
think
we
want
to
have
that
in
short
order
with,
as
I
said,
enough
notice
for
people
to
know
that
it's
coming
so
whether
that's
next
week
or
at
the
latest
the
week
after,
I
think
it's
definitely
a
a
soon
kind
of
thing
and
look
forward
to
meeting
further
touch
with
you.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
N
Thank
you,
council
for
letting
me
speak
today
as
well
as
mr
adobe
and
mr
tube
for
all
the
excellent
work
you've
presented.
Also
thank
you.
Senator
wilkerson
for
all
the
incredible
work
you've
been
doing
for
helping
black
and
latino
businesses.
I
was
really
interested
in
learning
all
that
you've
done
and
I'm
definitely
going
to
look
up
more
as
to
what
you've
been
doing.
N
N
It
was
painful
for
me
to
tell
them
that
the
city
I
live
in
and
love
will
not
accept
them
due
to
biological
circumstances
beyond
their
control,
if
they
do
come,
they'll
be
left
out
in
the
cold,
unable
to
eat
inside
at
restaurants,
attend
concerts
or
go
to
the
gym
to
stay
healthy,
telling.
My
friends
that
boston
will
treat
them,
as
outcasts,
has
been
incredibly
painful.
N
In
light
of
the
fact
that
per
the
boston,
public
health
commission
january
27
report,
only
75
of
eligible
bostonians
are
vaccinated
and
that,
according
to
the
cdc
vaccines,
sadly
do
not
prevent
the
spread
of
covid
merely
reduce
adverse
effects
so
greatly
I
may
add,
and
that
many
countries
are
now
abandoning
a
lot
of
their
mandates,
calling
them
ineffective,
most
notably
england
and
denmark.
I've
got
three
related
questions.
N
Has
the
administration
considered
somehow
allowing
for
medical
exemptions,
vaccine
mandates
for
those
who,
due
to
medical
reasons,
cannot
receive
the
vaccine
as
the
administration
performed
any
sort
of
analysis
of
how
the
vaccine
mandate
has
affected
the
revenue
of
our
small
businesses
and
their
employee
pool
and
then?
Finally,
why
do
these
mandates
still
exist
if
they're
doing
such
great
harm
to
our
small
businesses,
when
a
quarter
of
the
population
cannot
work
at
some
of
these
businesses
nor
provide
them
business?
B
Thank
you
so
much
jonathan
for
your
testimony
and
those
questions
we
answered
on
the
record.
I
know
that
there's
been
further
filings
on
this
topic
in
council,
so
I
know
we'll
be
having
further
conversation,
but
I
thank
you
for
testifying
and
waiting
for
the
whole
period
to
do
so.
I
am
at
this
time
I
think
we've
gone
through
everyone.
Who's
been
signed
up
to
testify,
so
I'll
just
double
check.
Michelle
carey
has
anybody
else
reached
out
to
us
in
the
meantime,.
B
Great
well,
in
that
case,
I
just
like
to
say
that,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I
do
intend
to
recommend
tomorrow
that
the
council
vote
to
pass
this
docket
for
five
million
dollars
so
that
we
can
start
getting
these
funds
allocated,
and
I
want
to
thank
again
my
colleagues
for
joining
us
and
the
administration
for
joining
us
today,
and
everybody
who
testified
and
with
that
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
covenanting
recovery
committee
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All.