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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on May 25, 2017
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Dockets #0536-0543: Fiscal Year 2018- Department of Neighborhood Development (including the Office of Housing Stability)
A
B
Today
is
Thursday
May
25th
and
we
are
here
to
review
the
fiscal
year.
18
budget
of
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
want
to
welcome
chief
Dillon
and
her
team
this
morning.
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
remind
folks
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
that
is
both
being
broadcast
and
recorded
on
our
CN
channel
82
and
Comcast
channel
8.
B
B
Now
today's
hearing
is
on
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
FY
18
budget
dockets,
zero,
five,
three,
six:
two:
zero
five:
three:
eight
orders
for
the
fiscal
year:
18
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations,
annual
appropriation
for
the
School
Department
and
appropriation
for
other
post-employment
benefits
and
black.
It's
zero.
Five:
three:
nine
through
zero,
five,
four
three
capital
budget
appropriations,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
and
purchase
agreements.
B
I
will
now
introduce
my
colleagues
in
order
of
their
arrival
to
my
far
left,
City
Council
at
large
Michael
Flaherty
to
my
immediate
left,
City
Council
at
large
Anisa,
sabe
George
to
my
right
district
city,
councilor,
Sal,
Lama,
Tina
back
to
my
left
district
city,
councilor,
Tim,
McCarthy.
Next
to
him
district
city
councilor
are
vacant
and
to
my
far
right
district
city
council,
back
Frank,
Baker
and
back
to
my
left
district
City,
Council,
Matt
O'malley
thanks
again
chief
and
it's
all
yours
Thank.
C
You
counselor
and
good
morning,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
testify
and
our
budget
and
our
accomplishments,
fair,
17
and
what
we
want
to
accomplish
in
18
and
and
before
I
begin
I
just
want
to.
As
I
look
around
the
council
chamber,
I've
worked
with
each
and
every
one
of
you
on
multiple
housing
issues.
So
this
is
a
council
that
has
cared
deeply
about
this
issue
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
C
We've
gotten
calls
from
your
offices
to
help
with
constituents
who
you've
helped
us
cite
affordable
housing
that
can
sometimes
be
thorny.
You've,
worried
about
expiring
use,
you've
helped
with
legislation,
and
it
doesn't
go
unnoticed.
So
this
is
a
very
dedicated
councilman.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
for
the
record,
I
really
do
appreciate
that,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Sheila
dill
and
I'm.
C
Chief
of
housing
for
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Neighborhood,
Development
and
up
here
with
me
today,
are
some
very
dedicated
employees
at
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
Rick
Wilson
from
our
finance
division,
Donald
Wright
from
our
real
estate
management
sales
and
the
infamous
Bob
Garrett
from
our
policy
development
and
research
division,
helping
us
navigate
federal
the
Federal
choppy
waters.
These
days,
there's
also
more
people
in
the
audience
that
can
answer.
C
Maybe
any
question
you
can
think
of
so
as
I
mentioned,
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we've
tried
to
accomplish,
what
we
have
accomplished
in
fiscal
year
17
and
our
plans
for
18.
So
probably
most
importantly,
we
are
on
track
to
meet
the
housing
production
goals
of
the
mayor's
housing
plan.
2030.
C
Almost
3,600
dormitory
beds
have
been
completed
and
another
6,000
are
in
the
pipeline
for
folks
that
don't
follow
it
as
closely
as
we
do.
We
have
36,000
undergraduates
living
in
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
really
really
are
putting
some
pressure,
some
friendly
pressure
on
our
colleges
and
universities
to
build
more
dorms
to
house
their
students.
We've
also
made
some
great
strides
in
the
fight
against
homelessness.
C
In
2015,
the
mayor
released
a
plan
to
end
veteran
and
chronic
homelessness
and
reform
the
delivery
of
our
services
and
since
releasing
the
plan,
the
working
very
closely
with
the
BHA
and
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission,
our
nonprofit
partners.
We
have
housed
just
shy
of
850,
homeless
vets
and
we
have
housed
310
chronically
homeless
individuals,
and
these
are
individuals
that
have
been
living
on
the
street
or
in
shelter
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
C
In
fact,
if
you
add
up
the
amount
of
time
that
the
310
have
spent
and
shelter
on
the
street,
you
have
over
2,000
years
of
homelessness,
which
is
a
staggering
number,
but
our
challenge.
Now,
as
we
continue
to
can
house,
people
is
to
also
build
a
shelter
system
that
is
new
and
improved,
and
it
keeps
individuals
from
becoming
chronically
homeless
and
we're
we're
really
working
very,
very
hard
on
that.
C
We're
hoping
that
when
folks
enter
the
front
door
of
our
individual
shelters,
they
are
assessed
immediately
and
they
get
placed
into
programs
that
they
need
to
be
much
more
quickly.
If
they
need
treatment,
they
need
to
go
in
treatment
immediately
if
they
need
to
get
reunified
with
loved
ones,
then
they're
getting
those
calls
are
being
made.
Those
travel
arrangements
are
being
made
and
if
they
truly
do
need
supportive
housing,
then
housing
search
will
begin
much
more
quickly.
For
too
long
people
have
come
into
shelter
and
spend
too
much
time
there.
C
We
also
this
year
opened
the
office
of
housing
stability,
because,
even
though
we
try
to
build
our
way
out
of
the
housing
issues
that
we
find
ourselves
in
right
now,
we
know
that
tenants
find
themselves
in
difficult
situations.
So
this
office
of
housing
stability
is
now
almost
fully
staffed
and
we're
dealing
with
tenants
that
are
find
them
in
Christ
crisis
or
or
they
need
assistance
to
prevent
displacement.
C
I
know
you
are
many
of
you
have
a
great
interest
in
this
office,
so,
at
the
end
of
my
words,
we're
going
to
do
a
very
quick
slide,
PowerPoint
presentation,
only
three
slides
promise,
and
so,
and
also
into
addition
to
producing
housing
and
addressing
homelessness.
We
really
are
continuing
to
support
people
in
Boston
that
want
to
buy
a
home.
Our
Boston
Home
Center
is
or
are
living
in
a
home.
C
Our
Boston
Home
Center
is
projected
to
complete
over
2000
home
renovations
or
repairs
this
fiscal
year,
including
1,600,
for
our
seniors,
and
this
is
a
really
important
component.
It
helps
our
seniors
stay
in
place
for
in
their
homes
for
as
long
as
they
want
to.
So
that's
a
very,
very
busy
office
and
consumes
a
lot
of
our
time,
energy
and
attention,
but
it's
very
important
work
and
for
folks
that
are
interested
in
purchasing
a
home-
and
we
know
it's
a
difficult
climate
right
now
to
do
so.
C
Given
prices,
we
still
are,
you
know,
sticking
with
it
and
we
have
helped
2,300
people
either
participate
in
home,
buying
classes
and
get
financial
assistance
or
downpayment
assistance.
So
we're
really
working
very,
very
hard
to
have
as
many
people
that
want
to
buy
and
put
roots
down
in
Boston
do
so.
C
Finally,
we
work
our
continuing
to
work
very
hard
on
disposing
of
our
land,
we're
working
with
many
of
you
on
this
initiative,
because
that
land
is
in
your
neighborhoods
and
last
year
we
sold
just
shy
of
70
parcels
tolling
three
hundred
and
eight
thousand
square
feet
of
land
generating
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
For
the
city
and
that
created
95
units
of
housing,
the
majority
of
which
was
affordable,
and
we
created
twenty
five
thousand
square
feet
of
open
space,
community
gardens
urban
farms
etc,
and
we
have
295
city
parcels
in
active
disposition.
C
Our
goal,
our
goal-
is
really
not
to
own
land.
Our
goal
is
to
get
land
through
tax
foreclosure
surplus
and
get
it
back
out
into
productive
use
as
quickly
as
possible,
we're
just
going
through
decades
of
ownership.
We're
very
pleased
with
the
results
and
I
think
that
the
development,
especially
the
new
homes
that
are
being
built
on
this
land,
are
truly
beautiful
and
they're
going
to
be
an
asset
to
the
neighborhoods.
C
So
that's
what
we've
been
doing
in
17
I
just
want
to
quickly
highlight
some
of
the
goals
for
18.
We
will
continue
to
preserve
housing
for
Boston's
residents,
we're
we're
going
to
work
very,
very
hard
at
continuing
to
create
new
housing,
much
of
that
to
be
affordable
for
our
low
and
middle
income
residents.
We're
going
to
continue
to
work
towards
the
goal
of
ending
chronic
homelessness
in
Boston,
and
our
goal
is
to
house
250
chronically
homeless
this
year
and
will
also
continue
to
house
vets
as
they
come
through.
C
The
shelter
doors
will
improve
our
ability
to
help
renters
in
crisis
by
building
the
capacity
of
the
office
of
housing
stability
and
we
anticipate
preventing
500
potential
evictions
and
place
200
housing,
insecure
households
into
permanently
affordable
housing,
we'll
promote
and
support
homeownership
by
providing
over
6,000
individuals
with
assistance
through
our
Boston
Home
Center,
including
homebuyer
classes
and
seminars,
foreclosure
counseling,
downpayment
assistance
and
home
repairs,
and
we'll
continue
to
take
care
and
be
a
good
steward
of
the
property
that
we
own.
While
we
work
with
the
community
to
dispose
of
these
assets.
C
So
I'd
like
to
outline
the
budget
request
before
you
today,
our
fiscal
year,
18
operating
budget
request
of
13
point,
1
million
represents
a
small
increase
of
one
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
dollars
or
1.3
percent
over
our
fiscal
17
budget.
This
increase
is
primarily
due
to
new
funding
for
homeless
veterans,
not
eligible
for
VA
services,
initiatives
for
our
office
of
housing,
stability,
additional
funding
to
better
maintain
city-owned
land
parcels
until
we
can
dispose
of
them
and
it
preserves
our
housing
innovation
lab
and
they
were
losing
their
grant
funding
this
year.
C
These
increases
are
offset
by
decreases
in
several
accounts,
due
mostly
to
staff
realignment
and
the
shifting
of
to
small
programs
to
the
office
of
food.
In
this
should
it's
so.
As
you
know,
most
of
the
Indies
funding
comes
from
external
sources.
We
work
hard
to
leverage
our
operating
funds
to
maximize
external
revenue.
Our
operating
funds
support
administrative
activities
not
eligible
for
external
sources
and
fund
housing,
2030
a
special
appropriation
within
our
operating
budget
that
supports
our
homeless
work
in
various
housing
programs.
C
The
proposed
budget
external
budget
includes
an
estimated
62
million
in
external
funds
for
fiscal
year
18
these
important
funds,
which
primarily
come
in
the
form
of
grants
from
the
US
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development,
allowed
DND
to
carry
out
a
wide
range
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
programs
across
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
Boston.
Earlier
this
month,
Congress
passed
a
spending
bill
that
will
provide
essentially
level
funding
for
our
formula
grants
for
fiscal
year
18,
including
CDBG
and
home-and-home
as
a
federal
source
of
funds.
We
use
to
build
and
preserve
affordable
housing.
C
We're
going
to
be
returning
to
this
committee
seeking
approval
to
accept
and
extend
our
fiscal
year
18
grants
in
the
upcoming
weeks.
So
you'll
hear
more
about
those
that
funding
then.
But
we
are
certainly
available
to
answer
questions
today,
as
well
and
I'm
sure
you've
heard
just
last
week,
President
Trump
released
his
proposed
budget,
which
calls
for
the
elimination
of
both
CDBG
and
home
and
fiscal
year.
19
just
came
back
from
Washington
yesterday
and
I
got
a
I
got
to
say
it
was
a
sad.
C
Is
it
funds,
so
many
housing
programs,
economic
development
programs,
employment
programs,
and
there
was
little
appetite
to
discuss
how
important
these
funds
were
so
I'm
a
little
demoralized
today,
but
we're
going
to
be
working
very
very
hard
with
our
IG,
our
Department,
the
mayor's
office,
our
congressional
staff
and
hopefully,
all
of
you
to
to
make
sure
that
these
funds
get
restored
as
the
budget
process
moves
forward.
But
on
a
more
positive
note,
D&D
will
continue
to
leverage
inclusionary
development
funds.
C
The
funds
we
extract
from
private
development
to
fund
to
support,
affordable
housing
and
I
just
want
to
note
that,
since
taking
over
management
of
these
funds
in
fiscal
year,
15
DMD
has
committed
our
plans
to
commit
over
86
million
dollars
to
affordable
housing
projects.
So
I
think
we've
done
a
very
good
job
at
working
with
our
development
community
extracting
resources
from
the
private
development
community
and
putting
those
resources
into
affordable
housing
projects.
C
I'd
also
like
to
mention
that
our
efforts
that
our
efforts
and
our
our
work
with
the
city
of
with
the
city
council,
we've
passed
CPA
and
we're
very,
very
excited
about
that,
and
that
will
provide
additional
resources
for
affordable
housing
next
year
as
well.
We
don't
know
how
much
money
is
going
to
be
used
for
affordable
housing
that
will
be
worked
out
with
you
and
the
committee
that
will
be
overseeing
CPA,
but
we're
anticipating
that
we
will
have
additional
CPA
funds
for
affordable
housing.
C
So
we're
going
to
fight
like
heck,
to
keep
our
federal
funding
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
extract
and
be
good
stewards
of
the
inclusionary
development
and
work
with
you
all
on
CPA,
so
we'll
continue
to
do
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
It's
an
important
priority,
but
the
job
has
just
got,
has
gotten
harder
so,
as
promised,
I
just
want
to
go
over
the
office
of
housing
stability
and
where
we
are,
if
I
could.
This
will
only
take
a
minute
so
the
office
of
housing
stability?
C
I
just
go
okay,
great,
thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
state
the
goal
is
so.
The
mission
of
the
office
of
housing
stability
is
to
promote
housing,
preservation
and
stabilization
by
helping
residents,
find
and
maintain
stable,
safe
and
affordable
housing,
and
we're
really
doing
this
three
ways
we
are
taking.
C
Cases
calls
from
Bostonians
we're
answering
their
questions,
many
of
them
legal
around
their
rights
and
we're
helping
direct
constituents
to
resources
that
can
help
meet
their
housing
needs,
and
you
know
some
of
that
is
making
referrals
to
proper
to
proper
nonprofits
that
we
have
very
close
working
relationships
with.
Some
of
that
is
just
dispensing
information
that
we
have.
We
have
attorneys
in
that
office
that
really
know
the
legal
process,
so
we're
providing
very,
very
good
guidance.
C
We
are,
we
know
all
the
nonprofits
and
the
programs
to
help
with
rent
arrearage
is
so
we
are.
We
are
doing
that
we're
doing
and
we're
also
doing
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
with
landlords.
So
if
we
know
a
building
is
in
some
difficulty,
we
are
working
with
the
residents
and
we're
also
working
with
the
landlords
to
see
if
we
can
find
solutions
that
work
for
both
parties,
so
that
the
phone
is
ringing.
A
lot
we're
answering
a
lot
of
calls
and
I
think
we're
dispensing
very,
very
valuable
information
and
guidance.
As
I
mentioned.
C
We're
working
with
our
nonprofits
and
Boston
is
very
fortunate
to
have
very,
very
talented,
nonprofits,
and
we
know
what
services
they
all
provide,
what
resources
they
have,
and
so
because
of
our
knowledge,
we
are
able
to
help
residents,
make
those
connections
versus
bouncing
around
and
from
one
nonprofit
to
another.
We're
really
able
to
track
their
progress
as
they
get
hooked
up
with
nonprofits
and
and
work
through
their
issues
and
I
think
that's
been
very
successful
because
we
can't
we
can't
provide
all
the
services,
but
we
can
ensure
that
they're
getting
referred
to
the
right
place.
C
Certainly,
we
are
collecting
eviction
data
we
have.
We
have
just
completed
collecting
fiscal
year
15
and
now
we
are
sending
interns
in
to
get
fiscal
year.
16,
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
when
we
were
discussing
some
of
the
legislative
pea,
and
that
is
helping
us
look
at
trends.
Where
are
the
evictions
are
happening?
Who
is
evicting
and
that
and
that
those
those
trends
and
data
points
are
helping
us
put
together
legislation
and
other
policy
and
interventions
that
are
more
meaningful,
because
we
have
the
data
out
of
that
data.
We
have
put
together.
C
Here
maybe
I'll
go
back
and
do
a
little
bit
of
a
maybe
give
you
a
little
more
detail.
Sorry,
so
I
talked
about
the
the
housing
related
cases
in
2017
office
of
housing.
Stability
has
triage
for
over
fourteen
hundred
cases
related
to
housing,
instability,
which
I
think
is
really
important
now
and
go
to
say
that
we
have
launched
new
policies
and
programs.
C
So
we
have
put
forth
and
you're
working
with
many
of
you
on
Mayor
Walsh's,
anti
displacement,
legislative
package
and
I'll
go
over
those
that
legislative
package
in
a
minute
we've
launched
a
landlord
guarantee
pilot
program
on
these
are.
This
is
a
program
where
the
the
tenants
may
have
had
some
issues
in
the
past.
They
may
not
be
the
tenants
that
every
landlord
is
dying
to
take.
They
may
have
credit
scores
or
a
choppy
rental
history,
but
this
is
providing
guaranteed
to
the
landlords
that
they're
the
red
will
be
maintained.
C
There
will
be
someone
to
answer
the
phone
if
there's
issues
etc.
We've
also
improved
the
Metro
list,
which
was
an
underused
underutilized
asset
in
the
city
of
Boston.
This
is
by
all
of
the
the
owners
of
affordable
housing.
If
they're
funded
by
the
city
of
Boston
needs
to
put
their
listings
on
a
metro
list,
and
now
we
have
seven
thousand
subscribers,
so
if
you're
looking
for
affordable
housing
units
in
Boston,
you
can
go
online
and
you
can
use
this
this
resource
and
start
oftentimes.
C
There's
wait
lists
but
get
on
those
waitlist
and
see
if
there's
new,
if
there's
new,
lotteries
being
announced
access
and
find
out
about
those
lotteries
from
metro
lists.
So
it's
a
much
it's
a
much
more
use
than
it's
a
much
more
robust
asset
than
it
has
been,
and
we
are
working
to
publish
guidelines
on
affordable
housing
search
in
the
eviction
process.
Those
are
underway
we're
working
with
several
legal
groups
to
put
together
a
really
good
resource
guide.
I
know
that
some
of
you
have
asked
for
that.
So
you
will
have
that
shortly.
C
I
just
want
to
tick
off
the
the
the
mayor's
legislative
package,
we're
working
with
many
of
you
on
this
first
and
foremost,
the
Home
Rule
petition,
the
Jim
Brooks
Community
Preservation
Act
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
such
a
good
working
session
on
this
several
weeks
ago.
Working
with
it,
the
tenant
advocates
the
Walsh
administration
and
the
City
Council
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
find
a
compromise
that
works
for
everyone
that
will
be
that
will
be
meaningful
and
have
an
impact
on
displacement.
C
Another
piece
of
legislation
that
we
filed
at
the
Statehouse
is
an
act
to
promote
homelessness
prevention
and
that
ensures
low
income,
tens,
the
right
to
legal
representation
and
eviction
proceedings
right
now
only
about
seven
to
nine
percent,
depending
on
the
study
of
tenants,
getting
evicted
in
court
have
legal
representation,
which
is
not
good
for
the
landlords
and
not
good
for
the
tenants.
Research
has
shown
that,
if
tenants
have
legal
representation,
the
outcomes
are
better.
They
save
landlords,
money
and
tenants
enter
into
agreements
if
they
actually
can
afford
and
maintain.
C
So
we're
very
anxious
to
have
a
hearing
on
this
is
the
Statehouse
and
push
for
this.
We
also
filed
a
piece
of
legislation
that
would
reward
landlords
with
a
$1,500
per
unit
tax
credit
if
they
were
renting
below
fair
market
value
and
the
finally
enact
that
would
give
ten
to
write
a
first
refusal
if
the
building
that
they
were
living
in
was
going
to
be
foreclosed
on
Washington
DC
has
a
program
similar,
although
theirs
is
triggered
anytime,
a
building
is
for
sale,
but
we
we've
started
here
with
a
in
case.
C
It
was
a
foreclosure
because
sometimes
in
multifamily
buildings,
when
buildings
are
foreclosed,
tenants
really
lose
out.
So
we're
tracking,
though
all
these
bills
of
the
State
House
and
we're
hoping
that
we're
hoping
that
many
of
them
make
their
way
through
and
become
law
and
I
will
say.
You
know
when
looking
at
the
the
data
we
have
seen
that
a
lot
of
evictions
were
coming
from
subsidized
housing.
C
I
mean
that's
just
I
mean
if
someone's
not
paying
their
rent
and
after
repeated
help,
but
we
want
to
have
a
much
all
the
nonprofits
and
for-profits
that
are
in
the
affordable
housing
space.
We
want
them
to
work,
much
harder
work
with
us
to
ensure
that
tens
get
what
they
need
to
stay
permanently
housed.
So
I've
talked
too
long,
so
I'll
stop
there.
But
thank
you
for
the
time
Thank.
B
C
We
do
we
do
we
have
the
we
have
the
entities
that
are
doing
some
of
the
evictions,
and
these
are
these
owners
are
serving
folks
at
the
lowest
incomes.
You
know,
and
probably
some
of
the
more
challenging
tenants.
So
we
understand
that
there
that
there
there
would
we
expected
there
would
be
some
addictions
but
I
think
now.
Our
our
job
is
not
so
much
to
blame
but
to
reach
out
and
say,
let's
figure
out
how
to
develop
a
really
good,
robust
safety
net.
C
So
if
your
tenants
are
in
you
know
showing
indications
they're
having
a
hard
time
maintaining
their
tendencies,
what
can
we
do
collectively
to
reach
out
and
get
them
the
services
they
need?
So
this
date
has
been
very
eye-opening
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
I
think
it's
going
to
really
some
good
interventions
and.
C
In
the
BHA
the
PHA
does
have
they
are
on
the
list
of
having
evictions,
but
the
PHA
now
is
piloting
a
lot
of
good
programs
working
with
tenants
to
find
themselves
repeatedly,
not
paying
their
rent
or
showing
other
signs
that
sometimes
disruptive,
behavior
and
they're
working
with
homes,
starting
other
nonprofits
too.
So
we're
very
interested
to
see
how
those
pilot
programs,
how
they
work
and.
B
I
think
the
reason
for
it
is
important
I
mean
if
it's
flat,
you
know,
if
it's
not
paying
rent,
we
should
try
to
see
what
the
circumstances
are
with
with
those
individuals
into
our
families,
but
some
cases
BHA
a
Vic's
for
public
safety
reasons.
Right
I'd
be
curious
to
see
how
that
breaks
down.
Okay
in
those
numbers
right.
B
C
Been
really
interested
in
this
topic
and
it
caught
it,
you
know
it's,
it
also
costs
effective
to
do
the
courts,
expense
of
the
unit.
The
turnover
is
expensive,
so
it's
not
cost-effective.
I
mean
no.
One
wants
to
evict.
I've,
never
met
anyone
who
wants
to
evict,
but
it
really
is
very
costly,
so
I
think
if
we
can
find
a
solution
in
Boston
that
will
benefit
everyone
and.
B
C
It's
across
the
board
there's
a
lot
of
the
management
companies,
but
we
want
to
get
in
the
data
and
see.
Is
it
happening
in
particular
buildings?
Is
it
happening
particularly
neighborhoods?
More
so
we're
interested
in
just
diving
into
the
data
and
then
reaching
out
to
the
folks
that
we're
seeing
the
most
eviction
right.
B
And
I
think
that's
important
to
be
data-driven
because
we
know,
and
up
in
across
other
departments,
if
you
just
cast
such
a
wide
you're,
really
being
inefficient
and
not
zeroing
in
on
the
problem
and
I'm
thinking,
when
we
try
to
enforce
no
more
than
four
students
and
we
just
kind
of
went
out
knocking
on
doors.
But
when
we
focused
on
the
problems
such
as
the
University
Accountability
Act,
getting
actual
apartments
flagging
the
potential
over
housing
issue,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
safe,
habitable
housing
for
all
our
tenants
and
affordable
housing.
B
D
You
may
have
seen
one
thing
that
even
some
Republicans
are
saying
that
the
President's
budget
request
is
dead
on
arrival,
so
you
know
I,
don't
believe
that
you
will
see
you
leave
into
your
home
eliminated,
but
I
think
there
are
risk
of
pretty
deep
cuts.
So
no
word
like
mayors
across
the
country
have
already
started
organizing
on
this
issue.
Just
about
every
nonprofit
in
the
country
is
organizing
on
these
issues.
D
So
you
know
I
think
that
even
this
last
time
around
you
know
I
think
it
was
a
small
miracle
came
out
with
level
funding
for
CDBG
level,
funding
for
home
and
actually
potentially
some
small
increases
in
a
couple
of
the
other
programs.
So
you
know
you
look
at
CDBG.
This
was
a
Republican
initiated
program,
it's
very
popular
among
governor's.
D
Most
governors
are
Republican,
so
I
think
there's
you
know,
there's
a
constituency
for
this
program
and
I
think
you
know
folks
will
fight
back
very
hard
on
it,
but
it's
also
simply
going
to
be
a
long-term
battle.
You
know
that
budget
proposed
two
percent
cuts
per
year
across
the
board
to
all
domestic
programs,
so
that
that's
going
to
be
very
hard
to
offset
that
we're
all
going
to
be
very
busy
for
the
right.
B
B
C
E
A
B
H
F
Been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you,
obviously,
with
respect
to
the
CPA
and
the
formation
of
the
CPC,
as
well
as
working
with
you
on
the
Jessica's
eviction
legislation.
That's
currently
pending,
particularly
our
efforts
working
with
the
council,
but
in
particularly
council
Frank
Baker
and
council
Josh,
take
them
around
the
data
collection
piece.
So
that's,
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
report
out
something
relatively
soon,
so
just
wanted
to
shift
a
little
bit.
You
touch
base
on
the
IDP
and
you
had
mentioned
there
was
86
million
dollars
has
come
in
from
development.
F
C
Mm
we
just
someone
go
up
a
little
bit
so
since
2000,
since
the
money
was
transferred
to
D&D
and
Matt
came
over
in
2015,
we
have
collected
88
million
dollars,
88
million
nine
hundred
thousand
and
every
year
we
we
take.
We
get
that
money
collect
that
money
from
developers
working
with
Treasury
and
we've
been
putting
out
a
request
for
proposals
very
transparent
requests
for
proposals.
C
Typically
twice
a
year
two
before
the
state
puts
their
funding
round
out,
because,
as
some
of
you
know,
we
always
want
to
get
as
much
state
funding
as
we
can
for
our
projects.
So
of
the
of
the
88
million
that
that
we
have
collected
or
anticipate
collecting,
we
have
commitments
of
86
million,
so
we
have
projects
lined
up
against
out
that
money
and
I
would
be
glad
and
I
I
didn't
bring
it
with
me,
but
I'd
be
glad
to
get
you
a
list
of
those
projects
where
they're
located
how
many
units
have
been
created,
etc.
C
F
C
F
Then
you
could,
through
the
chip
you
could
provide,
so
the
list
of
where
the
86
have
gone,
as
well
as
the
remaining
with
the
combination
of
the
short
of
the
partnership
there,
and
we
hear
it
regularly
as
a
citywide
counselors
across
the
city.
You
have
you
know:
fixed
income,
folks
are
seniors,
being
priced
out
of
the
neighborhood
that
they
were
born
and
raised
with
your
support
system
is
where
their
loved
ones
are
I'd
like
to
try
to
stay
in
their
own
neighborhood.
F
Then
we
have
folks
that
are
just
being
priced
out
of
neighborhoods
in
general
and
it's
a
concern.
You
know
that
challenge,
and
so
it
would
be
great
to
sort
of
see
where,
where
the
most
of
the
displacements
happening
in
every
neighborhood,
the
city
I
would
argue,
but
I
got
to
assume
that
there
are
some
neighborhoods
more
than
others
with
displacement
is
higher.
C
We
weren't,
if
I,
could
we
weren't
satisfied
with
the
the
amount
of
seenu's
senior,
affordable,
senior
housing
being
developed,
so
we've
put
out
some
of
our
larger
parcels
specifically
for
senior,
affordable
housing
and
recently
we
put
out
land,
we
put
out
a
large
site
on
Ronald
Road
and
feel
in
four
corners.
The
PHA
put
out
the
parking
lot
in
in
South
Boston,
which
we
really
we're
pleased
to
fund
and
there's
one
other.
We
just
put
out
Oh
lower
Mills.
C
F
So
it's
all
great
stuff,
I'd,
really
like
the
spec
to
see,
and
maybe
probably
maybe,
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
roll
something
out
like
that.
I
I.
Look
at
the
you
know
my
neighborhood,
like
the
sub
awesome,
Branch
Library.
That
is
in
need
of
significant
repairs,
but
it
has
a
small
municipal
lot.
Next
to
it
you
know.
Could
we
expand
that
municipal
lot
to
help
those
local
businesses?
F
Could
we
have
some
type
of
commercial
component
and
then,
as
you
know,
how
spacious
it
is
behind
the
building
and
maybe
opportunity
to
put
some
much-needed,
affordable
and
senior
housing?
This
would
again
that's
an
idea
that
council
baked
ahead
and
brought
forth
a
couple
budget
cycles
ago.
I
think
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
D&D
to
really
sort
of
Zone
in
and
it's.
C
A
great
idea
and
I
know
that
other
other
departments
in
the
city
are
working
out
and
I.
Think
there's
a
fellow
here
from
one
of
the
design
school,
the
architectural
schools
that
are
taking
that
up
as
a
topic
and
doing
some
analysis
so
you're
right
as
we
run
out
of
developable
space.
It's
a
great
idea
where.
C
F
F
I
E
E
I
C
I
Very
good,
thank
you
and,
and
then
with
the
improving
access
to
information.
You
know
this
is
something
that's
really
important
to
me,
not
just
creating
better
access
for
rentals,
but
also
home
ownership
opportunities.
Can
we
talk
about
sort
of
what
the
next
steps
are
in
improving
the
Metro
list,
because
getting
it
all
online
is
great,
but
it's
not
a
dynamic
document.
It's
not
something
that
residents
can
interact
with
great.
A
I
I
K
A
K
Debra
Park
I'm,
the
director
of
operations
at
the
department,
neighbor
development
and
the
council
asked
about
the
improvements
in
Metro
listed.
Certainly
one
of
the
very
first
things
we
took
on
at
the
office
of
housing
stability.
Thinking
about
how
can
we
improve
the
access
to
information
about
what
currently
available,
affordable
housing
answer
exists
in
the
city,
so
metrology
list
previously
was
managed
by
fair
housing.
It
was
a
PDF
that
went
out
on
a
regular
basis
once
a
month
twice
a
month
saying
these
are
the
Lottery's
you
can
apply
apply
to.
K
We
have
taken
that
online,
so
it's
now
a
searchable
database,
so
you
can
get
regular
alerts
that
are
not
in
PDF
form.
We've
also
listed
all
existing,
affordable
housing
opportunities
that
are
maybe
not
vacant,
but
you
can
call
a
property
owner
and
find
out
a
little
bit
more
information
about
when
a
vacancy
might
be
like
might
be
available
if
you're
interested
in
particular
neighborhood.
You
want
to
know
what
affordable
units
are
in
your
neighborhood.
K
I
And,
as
you
all
know,
that
we've
called
for
a
hearing
order
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
accessing
affordable
units,
both
rental
and
homeownership
opportunities
and
I'm
excited
to
get
to
definitely
when
we're
sort
of
done
with
this
budget
process,
but
sort
of
as
a
preview
question
to
that.
So
I
think
really
set
the
stage
for
the
dialogue.
That
I
hope
will
happen
during
that
hearing
is
just
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
conversation
about
the
investment.
That's
needed.
Both
financial
investment
that's
needed,
but
also
that
the
human
capital
investment.
K
And
it
I
think
one
thing
that's
worth
noting
is
that
some
of
other
cities
have
taken
on
this
effort
to
have
not
just
a
common
intake
form,
but
a
common
application
portal
wave
where
you
can
fill
out
your
application,
once
and
and
as
new
opportunities
become
available,
be
automatically
entered
into
those
lotteries.
It's
something
that
we
have
a
graduate
student
fellow
coming
the
summer
to
explore
further
both
the
implementation
of
what
we're
currently
working
on,
and
pricing
out,
exactly
what
it
would
take
to
achieve
that
vision.
K
I
think
one
open
question
for
the
council
and
for
the
administration
is:
you
know
how?
How
expensive
is
that
and
if
it
is,
if
it
is
very
expensive,
if
it
is
a
three
million
dollar
IT
project,
we
want
to
put
three
million
dollars
into
improving
housing
access
that
might
create
longer
lotteries
or
do
want
to
put
three
million
dollars
into
improving
the
housing
pipeline.
It's
an
important
trade-off.
Conversation
I
think
we
look
forward
to
having
yeah.
H
I
Because
we
see
every
day
with
all
of
these
new
units
coming
online,
that
more
and
more
the
residents
in
our
neighborhoods
are
not
able
to
access
that
growth.
So
how
do
we
create
that
opportunity?
I
appreciate
you
coming
down
and
thank
you
for
entertaining
this
question.
I'll
save
the
rest
for
next
round.
Thank
you,
council.
C
So
the
AOP
is
a
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
we
put
into
our
budget
last
year
and
we're
working
with
mostly
nonprofits
but
open
to
anyone
who
wants
to
buy
occupied
properties
that
and
and
take
them
out
of
the
specular
market,
and
we
really
we
don't
want
to
buying
empty
properties.
We
want
our
development
partners
to
buy
occupied
properties
and
then
keep
the
existing
tenants
in
place
and
if
there
is
vacancies
and
then
and
then
rent
the
other
apartments
and
it's
a
it's
a
compared
to
our
other
programs,
it's
a
fairly
shallow
subsidy.
C
It's
up
to
seventy
five,
a
unit,
seventy
five
thousand
a
unit,
so
it
really
relies
on
a
developer
being
able
to
get
some
good
private
debt,
some
good,
a
good
first
mortgage.
It's
been
successful.
It
has
a
few
challenges,
so
in
East
Boston
it's
working
well,
we've
got
Noah
and
the
East
Boston
CDC,
both
buying
Noah
buying,
more
and
they've,
really
just
jumped
in
and
they're
buying,
and
these
are
small
properties
that
a
lot
of
people
aren't
interested
in
owning,
which
is
great,
they're,
doing
a
wonderful
job.
C
It's
proving
to
be
a
bit
more
difficult
to
use
in
areas
like
JP
or
South
Boston,
where
the
triple
Decker's
now
are
not
five
or
five.
Fifty
they're.
Now
a
million
dollars
and-
and
so
there's
some
discussion
about.
Do
we
increase
the
per
unit
and
we're
looking
at
that
so
I'd
say
it's
very
successful
in
some
parts
of
the
city
in
other
parts
of
the
city
that
the
numbers
aren't
working
because
the
acquisitions
are
just
too
expensive.
So.
E
C
C
I
agree,
and
we
will
be
glad
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
if
it's,
if
it's
okay
with
you
since
you
do,
have
an
interest,
why
don't
we?
But
after
that
we
spend
the
two
million,
which
is
probably
going
to
be
in
the
very
near
future,
get
a
report
out
to
the
City
Council,
letting
you
know.
You
know
what
is
accomplished
and
maybe
have
a
dialogue
about
potential
funding
for
fiscal
year.
17
I
too,
like
the
program
18,
okay,.
L
C
C
So
if
the
apartments,
if
the
apartments
cannot
be
appealed,
can't
enter
those
apartments
again,
if
they're
gone,
if
they've
been
burned
beyond,
then
we
can
offer
two
months
so,
the
first
or
last,
or
first
and
security,
which
is
for
low
income
or
moderate
income.
Families
is
a
very
big
deal
because
they've
lost
everything,
and
then
we
often
help
with
housing
search
as
well.
It's
certainly
easier.
If
a
family,
we
would
come
across
someone
who
has
a
mobile
section,
8
or
section
8,
but
that
isn't
always
the
case.
C
So
regardless
we
are
helping
housing
search
if
they
have
been
able
to
find
their
own
way.
Oftentimes,
though
it's
just
the
money
they
need
and
their
through
their
no
networks
or
finding
new
places
to
live,
but
at
all
times
they
don't
feel
like
they're
alone.
They
know,
there's
someone
they
can
call.
Thank.
L
C
L
Something
that
I
hope
that
you
will
put
in
yours
is
done
right.
Is
this
sharing
because
I
have
a
fire
in
East
Boston,
because
there
for
people
that
live
in
East
Boston,
they
don't
have
breakfast
insurance,
but
I
have
a
fire
in
Charlestown,
they're,
more
post,
more
money
and
more
education.
They
all
have
renter's
insurance.
So
that's
something
that
I
hope
that
we
get
the
message
out
there
to
folks
that
they
should
have
the
right
position.
It's.
C
C
B
E
L
C
There's
five
well:
the
city
of
Boston
is
very
focused
on
not
exclusively
but
where,
because
we
actually,
the
city
runs
a
shelter.
We
we
work
a
lot
on
me
on
the
individual
homelessness
issue
and
there's
five
mostly
I
mean
the
big,
our
Boston
Public
Health,
Commission,
Pine
Street,
but
there's
also
smaller
shelters
as
well.
There's
pilgrim,
there's
Blessed
Sacrament,
there's
rescue
City
mission,
so
there's
smaller
shelters
as
well.
Most
of
the
resources
the
city
has
to
help
with
our
homeless
populations
come
from
the
federal
government.
C
Those
are
competitive
funds
that
we
apply
for
each
year.
In
each
year
we
get
twenty
four
twenty
five
twenty
six
million
dollars.
Most
of
that
money
is
used
for
support
services
and
permanent
housing
vouchers
or
I.
I
will
say:
I'm
worried,
I'm
worried
that
we're
going
to
be
competitive,
we
will
put
together
a
great
application.
We
always
do
and
we're
just
worried
about.
You
know
the
response
that
we'll
get
from
the
federal
government.
So
here's.
L
C
We're
meeting
with
some
of
the
communities
that
were
a
large
number
of
folks
are
coming
from,
and
it
is
not
that
the
city
of
Boston
does
not
want
to
be
welcoming.
We
do,
but
if
people
can
stay
closer
to
their
support
systems
and
their
families
and
places
where
that
they
are
known,
it's
better
for
them
as
well
in
most
cases.
C
So
this
is
an
issue
that
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on
and
we
are
taking
it
very,
very
seriously
and
and
I
believe
the
state
is
listening
to
us
and
we're
hoping
that
when
they
reproduce
alter
funds
that
they're
really
looking
for
for
to
ensure
that
there's
geographic,
Dushan
of
shelters
and
and
similar
shelter
policies,
many
of
the
states,
the
state
allows
shelters
to
devise
their
own
shelter
policies.
So
a
lot
of
the
shelters
are
in
other
parts
of
the
state
are
dry.
C
L
M
C
As
many
of
you
know,
Lydia
Edwards
had
been
hired
to
be
the
director
of
the
office.
She
has
taken
a
leave
of
absence
to
run
for
a
City
Council
seat,
and
now
we
have
Michelle
legal
wits,
who
was
a
fellow
with
us
from
heartened
who
just
graduated
from
Harvard
Business
School,
who
is
just
an
amazing
human
being
I'm,
just
a
operational
genius
and
she
has
come
on
and
is
really
just
taking
the
reins
and
is
doing
a
lot
of
good
work
and
making
sure
the
RFPs
go
out
and
all
the
calls
get
answered,
etc.
M
A
G
M
That
there's
a
smooth,
smooth
transition
there
arm
have
already
touched
on
federal
cuts,
which
you
know
even
in
good
years,
we
were
I
think
lucky
to
come
out
at
level
funding
a
lot
of
the
time.
What
how
do
you
feel
with
the
CPA
money
coming
in
with
our
linkage
with
our
inclusionary
development
funding
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
make
up?
Are
we
going
to
have
more
money?
M
I
mean
you
know,
I
know
when
we
were
first
started
talking
about
CPA
I
know
it's
not
all
for
housing,
obviously,
but
I
think
a
big
segment
of
it
will
be
in
Boston.
We
were
you
know
talking
about
interesting
things.
We
might
be
able
to
do
with
some
of
this
new
funding.
How
do
you
see
that
playing
out
at
this
point?
I.
C
Am
very
concerned
I'm
very
concerned.
I
agree
with
Bob
Garrett.
That
CDBG
would
be
very
hard,
I.
Think,
given
the
popularity
of
CDBG
for
it
to
zero
it
out,
I
think
we
will
lose
our.
We
could
lose
a
lot
of
our
home
funding
and
some
of
our
CDBG
funding
and
that's
been,
you
know,
that's
going
to
cut
into
probably
set.
You
know
I'm
guessing,
but
could
be
five
six,
seven,
eight
nine
million
dollars
of
funding
that
we
use
for
the
creation
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
C
M
I
know
in
our
initial
conversations
now
over
a
year
ago
about
a
city
funded
voucher
program.
We
were
talking
about
a
CPA
passive
that
could
be
a
potential
revenue
source
I.
Think,
while
we
need
to
continue
fighting
and
I
know,
our
representatives
in
Congress
in
the
Senate
are
doing
what
they
can
in
a
very
hostile
climate
in
Washington.
M
You
know,
if
anything,
we're
going
to
need
we're
going
to
more
need.
You
know
and
I
think.
Obviously
the
rental
rates
in
Boston
are,
you
know
so
out
of
whack
with
the
rest
of
the
cover
most
of
the
rest
of
the
country
that
they're
you
know
having
that
local
control
of
what
the
vouchers
can
do
and
having
additional
resources.
We
are
very
important.
I
would
like
to
see
a
pilot
program
for
that
in
this
budget,
which
we've
been
pushing
for
I.
Think
it's
incredibly
important
for
that
for
the
city
to
have
to
have
that.
M
It's
only
been
six
months,
but
you
know
the
city
has
been
standing
up
and
you
know
reasserting
our
values
and
I
think
legislating
where
we
can
in
this
body
and
in
cooperation
with
the
mayor,
but
also
you
know
there
are
going
to
be
cuts
that
I
understand
the
need
to
maintain
what
we
have
but
having
such
a
real
estate
boom
in
Boston.
That
you
know
provides
us
with
resources
while
at
the
same
time
squeezing
people
who
need
them.
The
most
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
continue
looking
at
this.
M
So
I
would
hope
that,
as
we
continue
in
this
process
and
perhaps
as
we're
talking
about
what
the
CPA
I
know,
we're
still
working
on
a
council
flat
government
council
Campbell
who's
here
and
what
the
CPA
committee
is
going
to
look
like
and
how
we're
going
to
enact
that
I
think
that's
really
important.
That's
still
a
resource
we
can
use
for
at
least
a
pilot
program
for
these
city
vouchers.
Thank.
A
M
C
M
The
earliest,
you
know,
we've
done
a
lot,
I
think
in
the
city,
in
your
department
in
particular,
obviously
on
preserving
inspiring
use.
We
were
able
to
do
it
in
my
district
in
Fenway
at
a
Burbank
garden
apartments.
Just
recently.
This
is
a
much
larger
building
and
I
understand
it's
12
years
away.
You
know
seems
like
a
lot
when
we're
here
talking
about
a
budget
not
right
in
two
weeks,
but
that's
that's.
You
know
people
who
are
living
there
now
very
much
intend
to
be
there
in
12
years
in
15
years.
M
E
C
I'm
glad
you
raised
preservation
and
expiring
use,
it's
really,
probably
a
third
of
our
time.
Anyways
is
spent
on
tracking
every
affordable
unit
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
knowing
who
the
owners
are
when
the
date
when
the
date
is,
although
that
was
a
little
tricky
because
at
an
Lda
and
what
we
usually
are
looking
fires
out,
not
12
years
out,
but
it's
it's
hard
and
we
do
preserve
most
we
get
to.
If
I
hook
up
by
crook,
we
get
to
the
owner,
we
work
out
a
deal.
C
We
pay
off
investors,
but
it's
every
preservation
deal
almost
without
exception,
comes
at
an
expense.
So,
while
we're
trying
to
build
new,
affordable
housing,
we're
also
trying
to
keep
what
we
have
and
the
Amy
Lowell
house
is
located
downtown.
As
you
know,
it's
full
of
seniors
and
people
have
lived
there
for
a
long
time.
So
it's
a
critical
one,
so
we
just
have
to
keep
at
it.
C
I
will
say
since
I
think
1999
or
the
year
2000
any
time
the
city
of
Boston
puts
any
resources
into
a
project
with
what
I
can
think
of
one
exception.
We
require
affordability
in
perpetuity,
knowing
that
we
never
want
to
do
this
again,
but
the
deals
that
were
put
together
30
40
years
ago
had
30
40
year,
lives,
affordability,
lives
and
those
are
all
coming
to.
C
It
probably
seemed
like
you
know
eternity
away,
but
it
was
not
so
I
really
appreciate,
because
sometimes
I
was
just
working
with
council
I
Matina
on
a
property
in
the
North
End
that
was
losing
its
affordability
having
local
the
local
electeds.
Get
involved
is
often
very,
very
helpful,
so
you've
been
you've
all
been
very
great
and
have
risen
to
the
occasion
when,
when
necessary,
to
put
some
pressure
on
the
owners
from.
M
M
Fund
money
would
be
available
for
preservation,
CPA
money
potentially
available
for
president
preservation.
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
what
are
we
doing?
Who
sort
of
long
term?
You
know,
like
you
said
we,
since
2000
we've
been
doing
this.
That
means,
though,
around
the
same
time
as
a
milot,
every
we've
been
ensuring
perpetuity.
It
means
that
there
are
a
lot
of
buildings
like
Amy
Lowell
that
will
be
coming
up
in.
A
M
Are
we
does
it
make
sense,
or
the
number
just
too
vast,
to
start
trying
to
put
away
a
little
bit
money
to
prepare
for
this?
You
know
we
are
in
boom
times,
there's,
certainly
a
need
for
creation
of
more
housing,
so
I
hesitate
to
even
suggest
this
because
it
could
be
shortchanging
the
creation.
But
to
start
whether
you
know
an
a
fund
that
could
also
include
private
support,
some
of
the
housing
creation
monies
of
preservation
money.
C
No,
it's
a
very
good
idea:
okay,
I'll,
take
you
up
on
that
and
we
will
get
over
the
list
of
the
all
of
the
affordable
housing
projects
that
are
coming
to
usually
look
like
I,
said
five
years
out,
not
twelve,
but
let's
look
at
a
bit,
especially
for
your
districts.
The
our
biggest
issue
right
now
in
the
city
of
Boston
preservation
is
the
13/8
developments
that
were
state-funded,
not
federally
funded
and
they
are
in
very
desirable
locations
downtown
and
they
are
coming
do
so
in
in
our
in
our
this
year's
budget.
C
Next
year's
budget,
the
budget.
After
that,
we
we
have
put
away
a
lot
of
resources
for
their
preservation,
but
working
with
the
state
and
the
state's
been
very
good
about
picking
up
the
majority
of
the
tab.
But
so
we
have
been
planning
for
the
thirteen
days
with
the
state,
but
I
would
be
glad
to
do
that
exercise
and
get
back
to
you
and
just
show.
Thank.
M
You,
okay,
I,
think
that's
I,
think
to
be
proactive,
I
mean
listen,
I'll,
be
quite
honest.
If
I,
not
many
of
us
are
going
to
probably
all
be
around
this
table
in
twelve
years,
but
the
people
who
live
in
in
those
homes
certainly
intend
to
nice,
have
one
more
mr.
chairman,
drumming
back
to
the
office
of
housing
stability,
this
a
landlord
guaranty
pilot
program.
Can
you
explain
that
a
little
further
it
sounds
like
it
goes
beyond
just
a
rent
guarantee,
that's
a
thing.
What
so.
C
So
we've
put
together
some
resources
and
that
that
we're
saying
to
them
that
we
would
make
good
on
any
back
rent
and
and
they
have
phone
numbers
in
which
to
call
in
case
there's
issues
with
with
the
tenancy.
So
it's
just
launching
and
we're
hoping
that
it's
going
to
make
the
difference.
Other
cities
are
doing
this
with
some
great
success
who.
C
So
we
extract
resources
from
developers,
no
matter
what
they're
developing.
So
if
a
developer
is
developing
commercial
buildings
or
institutional
buildings,
we
extract
resources
for
affordable
housing
and
we
extract
so
much
per
square
foot.
Remember
skating
is
about
$10
a
square
foot
right
now
that
8
goes
into
housing
and
the
remainder
goes
into.
The
jobs
helps
with
job
training
programs
and
those
funds
are
administered
by
the
neighborhood
housing
trust
and
the
City
Council
is
well
represented
on
that
trust,
their
competitive
funding
rounds.
C
If
a
developer
is
developing
residential
properties,
they
have
an
affordable
housing
obligation
that
they
meet
three.
They
can
meet
it
three
ways
they
can
develop
the
affordable
units
on
site.
They
can
do
in
a
larger
percentage
of
affordable
units
off-site
if
it's
within
a
half-mile
radius
or
with
permission
they
can
pay
into
a
fund
and
those
that
that
funding
is
administered
by
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
and
we
administer
those
funds.
That's.
N
C
N
C
So
I
think
it's
one
of
the
best
things
we've
ever
done.
I
agree
with
you,
it's
a
it's
a
wonderful
initiative
and-
and
it's
everybody's
happy
with
it,
I
mean
so
it's
like
everybody's
happy.
So
there's
we've
looked
at
all
of
our
inventory
to
see
what
was
left.
We
don't
our
land
inventory,
a
lot
of
it's
been
developed
and
that's
good.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
infill
sites
on
residential
streets,
so
we
have
looked
where
there's
a
concentration.
We
have
packaged
those
those
sites.
C
Smaller
developers
and
contractor
teams
are
responding,
they've
been
a
good
job
creator
and
the
early
the
early
product
is
just
beautiful
and
I
would
love
to
get
some
of
you
out
on
a
tour
where
try
to
get
the
mayor
out
in
a
couple
of
weeks
just
to
tour
some
of
the
homes
they
are
beautiful.
So
it's
just
been
a
great
program
in
the
neighborhoods
are
really
happy
because
the
homes
really
do
reflect
the
other
homes
on
the
street
and
they
feel
like
wow.
C
You
know
people
are
really
respecting
the
the
street,
our
streetscape
and
we're
the
first
homes
that
have
been
sold
or
on
Trel
and
we're
and
they've
gone
to
young
families
with
kids
and
we're
prioritizing
the
right
size,
households
so
for
building
a
3-bedroom
home.
You
know
we're
we're
prioritizing
families
that
have
3
plus
members.
So
it's
great.
N
C
Into
the
Lottery's
have
not
been
as
large
as
our
rental
lotteries,
where
there's
thousands
there's
there's
you
know
four,
so
I'm
trying
to
think
there's,
probably
been
and
I'm
doing
this
from
memory,
but
I'll
get
you
the
exact
numbers,
there's
probably
five
or
six
applications
for
every
home
available,
but
I
could
be
wrong.
But
what
we
have
noticed
is
that
as
more
and
more
people
are
aware
of
the
unit's,
the
interest
is
really
growing
right.
So
the
first
few
I
think
it
was.
People
didn't
quite
know
what
they
were
they're
so
beautiful
are
they
affordable?
C
O
To
say,
if
I
could
add,
counsel
we're
also
in
the
process
of
taking
a
real,
unique
approach
about
our
marketing
of
these.
Does
these
new
homes
we're
now
looking
at
coordinating
a
date
where
we
conduct
an
open
house
and
that
will
allow
folks
that
are
in
the
lottery
to
walk
through
an
actual
brick
and
mortar
so
that
they
can
get
a
sense
of
you
know
the
finishes
touch
and
feel,
and
that's
something
to
we'll
be
looking
at
a
date
in
June
potentially
to
have
that
event.
Okay,.
N
And-
and
there
were
also
in
those
packages,
I
know
there
were
there
were
units
that
were
being
sold
not
to
the
lottery
but
just
under
market.
Can
you
explain
like
like
what
that
looks
like
who
whoo?
What's
our
target
congressman?
What
would
the
income
range
be
to
be
able
to
afford
one
of
those
yeah.
C
D
C
The
market
price
is
two
we're
very
reasonable
and
below
what
what
them,
what
we're
seeing
in
the
market-
and
we
don't
we're
not
allowing
the
developers
unless
there's
a
super-duper
unforeseen
conditions,
to
raise
those
prices
through
the
development
process,
and
so
you
know
we're
subsidizing
them
to
some
degree.
But
the
costs
have
been
somewhat
reasonable
too,
because
we're
really
they're
smaller
they're,
smaller
developers
and
contractors,
are
those.
C
N
If
there's
a
way
that
we
could,
because,
because
I
think
in
the
model
could
be
weather,
seniors
or
step-up
housing
for
people
that
need,
you
know
sort
of
treatment
almost
worth
like
with
pine
pine
streets
models,
so
there's
someone
there
available
to
them
when
they
live
living
in
those
apartments.
You
know.
So
if
you
get,
eight
units
are
on
one
floor
and
there's
a
person
that
that's
living
on
that
floor.
N
That's
a
that's
there
for
to
help,
whether
if
it's
seniors
or
even
formerly
homeless,
we
know
a
lot
of
those
people
that
you
know
you
need.
You
need
support.
You
can't
just
go
in
the
first
time,
you're
paying
a
bill.
So
I'd
like
to
see
this
sort
of
model
you'll
get
a
little
bigger
and
possibly
build
buildings.
N
We
were
having
25
units
in
rentals
or,
however,
we
do
it
because
I
know
we're
getting
away
from
transitional
programming,
and
you
know
we
I
think
if
we,
if
we
could
maybe
help
to
solve
that
single
person
homeless
thing
in
smaller
unit
I
think
it
would
I
think
it
would
go
a
long
way.
I
have
some
ideas,
I'd
like
to
maybe
share
them
with
I.
C
N
But
I
also
think
that
that
model
could
work
to
senior
housing
for
step-up
housing
for
homeless
housing.
You
know
in
its
and
it's
in
the
design
of
the
building
towards
himself
in
Seattle.
That
was
shared
kitchens.
You
know
so
a
smaller
a
smaller
unit
with
its
own
bathroom,
but
a
shared
kitchen
and
there's
also
on
the
corner.
Columbia
Road,
nice
cottage,
the
church
that
built
there.
They
have
some
fabulous
units,
their
shared
kitchens.
You
know
the
old
Oldsmobile
dealership,
Mass
Ave
in
East,
Cottage,
Street
or
West
Water
Street
up
at
Columbia
Road.
N
N
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
about
it
all
the
time
and
I
just
think
you
know
a
million
dollars
going
into
a
three
hundred
million
dollar
project.
That
million
just
gets
lost,
where,
if
we
took
five
six
seven
million
and
could
build
our
own
buildings,
that,
were
you
know,
25
or
30
units
micro-units
and-
and
there
were
all
our
units
I
think
we
could.
N
P
Thank
You
councillor
Sam,
Oh,
Thank,
You,
chief
Dylan
and
your
team
for
being
here
I
have
to
give
a
special
shout
out
to
Donald
who's
a
d4
resident,
but
also
le
and
my
team.
We
call
him
all
the
time
and
he's
always
responsive,
as
are
you
so
thank
you,
and
thank
you
to
your
incredible
team
with
when
it
comes
to
the
CPA
in
particular,
it's
just
exciting,
where
we're
going
with
that
I
have
to
agree
with
councillor
Baker
the
neighborhood
Homes
initiative
has
been.
The
community
has
loved
it.
P
The
presentations
continue
especially
had
civic
associations
and
we're
sort
of
stepping
that
up
in
certain
neighborhoods
in
my
district,
which
is
great
to
see
on
different
streets
and
changing
the
design
of
the
homes
to
reflect
within
the
community
already
and
making
most
of
those
units
of
portable
I
do
think
what
you
said
about
the
market
rate
piece
is
key.
There
are
a
lot
of
tenants,
a
lot
of
residents
in
the
district
who
want
not
just
all
affordable
housing.
P
They
want
to
mix
and
I,
don't
think
that
all
affordable
housing
should
go
and
just
go
in
certain
neighborhoods
in
the
city
of
Boston,
but
the
neighborhood
homes
initiatives
are,
it's
just
been
fantastic
and
everyone
at
the
Boston
Home
Center
has
also
been
great.
They
constantly
out
there,
the
civic
associations
and
giving
folks
information
I
just
want
to
echo
a
couple
things
that
councillor
Baker
said:
I
think
the
biggest
cause
and
the
most
frustrating
calls
we
get
has
to
do
with
those
who
are
looking
for
housing
and,
frankly,
their
seniors
and
it's
devastating.
P
When
you
have
you
know
an
80
year
olds,
who's
lived
in
the
city
of
Boston,
he's
retired,
on
a
fixed
income
living
on
like
their
cousins
couch
for
the
last
four
years
and
they've
been
on
the
waiting
list
for
BHA
they've
applied
to
other
non
BHA
properties.
We've
helped
them
fill
out
other
applications
for
other
places,
hoping
that
their
waiting
list
is
shorter,
so
I
do
think.
We
need
to
do
a
lot
more
in
terms
of
increasing
the
number
of
units
of
senior
housing.
P
Looking
at
the
balance
for
IDP
yeah
86
million
dollars
in
commitments
over,
you
know
almost
90
million
dollars,
it's
troubling
to
me
that
we
have
not
created
enough
units,
at
least
in
the
senior
housing
space,
particularly
for
this
issue.
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
vulnerable
populations
out
there,
but
most
seniors
can't
go
out
and
get
another
job
and
can't
produce
more
income
versus
some
families
which
are
working
two
or
three
jobs
that
that
hardship
is
that's
a
hardship
for
seniors
who
are
on
fixed
income.
P
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
looking
at
what
we
do
for
the
neighborhood
home
initiatives
and
the
city
of
Boston
working
with
different
developers,
smaller
developers
to
create
more
senior
units,
not
taking
a
million
dollars
in
pouring
it
meant
or
extremely
large
project
for
a
very
large
developer.
I
think
we
want
to
maybe
own
this
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
look
at
how
we
do
the
RFP
process
a
little
bit
differently.
With
these
funds.
P
So
I'm
happy
to
hear
in
particularly
my
district
Ronald
Road,
but
150
River,
Street
I
think
the
concern
there
is
the
one
developer
that
was
proposing.
Something
doesn't
have
money,
so
then
you
think
okay!
Well,
can
we
give
them
the
money
if
they
want
to
do
something
specifically
for
seniors
or
if
they're,
not?
P
How
do
we
work
with
folks
who
have
a
reputation
of
maybe
getting
things
done,
but
don't
necessarily
have
all
of
the
resources
to
complete
a
project,
so
it
can
happen
a
lot
faster,
so
just
thinking
outside
the
box
and
then
my
other
questions
have
to
do
with
I
guess
comments.
Maybe
this
is
actual
question.
Is
you
know
we
often
hear
about
anti
displacement,
gentrification
and
I?
Don't
use
those
words
loosely
because
I
do
think.
Every
single
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
Boston
is
dealing
maybe
with
something
different.
P
Some
have
commonalities,
but
I
have
largely
Dorchester
and
Matapan.
It's
very
different,
what's
happening
in
Mattapan
compared
to
Dorchester
people,
often
link
them
together
and
say:
there's
a
gentrification
problem
of
displacement.
B/C
did
an
incredible
study.
Looking
at
Matapan
in
particular,
the
number
of
homeowners
I
live
in
Mattapan
and
those
who,
if
they
rent
their
home
to
tenants,
tend
to
still
live
in
the
city
of
Boston,
maybe
in
Dorchester,
so
I
think
the
displacement
and
gentrification
conversation
are
very
different
for
Dorchester
than
Mattapan,
but
I'm
curious.
P
What
other
tools
are
we
looking
at
across
the
country
to
address
this
issue?
So
obviously
we
have
just
cause
on
the
table.
We
have
IDP
linkage,
creating
the
office
of
housing,
stability,
making
sure
people
understand
their
rights,
housing
vouchers
I
do
hope.
We
get
that
at
some
point
and
frankly,
I
hope
we
don't
wait
for
the
CPA
to
do
it.
I
would
like
to
take
that
five
million
or
whatever
it
takes
out
of
this
IDP
fund
or
somewhere
as
a
housing,
trust
to
try
a
pilot
for
housing
vouchers,
I.
Think
too
many
of
our
colleagues.
P
P
Obviously
housing
vouchers
are
tools
but
I'm
curious
as
to
what
other
tools
might
your
office
be
exploring
to
balance
the
development
that
is
continuing
to
go
in
the
city
of
Boston,
of
course,
that
won't
last
forever,
along
with
these
concerns
of
anti
displacement
and
gentrification,
you
know
as
we're
building
what
else
should
we
be
considering
that
we're?
Not
what
other
programs,
where
the
tools
exist,
that
other
municipalities,
either
in
the
Commonwealth
or
the
country,
are
doing
you.
C
Know
I,
like
I
said
mentioned:
I
just
came
back
last
night
meeting
with
Mike
I
chair
the
high-cost
city
forum,
so
that's
housing,
directors
from
every
single
high-cost
city
in
the
country
and
I've
been
chairing
it
for
the
last
couple
of
years
and
we
get
together
twice
here
just
to
do
this
very
rapid
fire.
What
are
we
miss
of
San
Francisco
to
LA,
it's
New,
York,
City
and
I
will
say:
I
mean
there's
no
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
that
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
large
thing
that
we're
missing
right.
C
I
mean
it
just
comes
down
to
resources,
and
you
know
DC
is
a
city
state,
so
they
have
more
resources
than
we
do.
New
York
City
has
a
lot
more
resources.
We
do
just
because
of
just
the
amount
of
resources
that
control
as
a
city,
but
as
far
as
programs
like
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
we're
not
thinking
of
you
know
other
those
other
cities.
Many
of
them
have
rent
control.
So,
while
they're
you
know,
San
Francisco
is
ridiculously
expensive
and
people
are
getting
displaced.
C
They
do
have
rent
control
for
some
of
the
most
vulnerable
populations
and
we
don't
have
that
so
I
think
you
know.
We
need
to
continue
to
build
a
lot
of
affordable
housing.
I
really
believe
it
is.
It
is
that
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
targeting
those
homes
to
our
residents
and
we
do
give
preference
for
Boston
residency,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
even
more
intentional
and
I
would
like
to
see,
and
we've
started
talking
to
the
office
of
fair
housing.
C
How
do
we
make
sure
when
we
built
or
building
new,
affordable
housing
that
the
new
housing
units
are
going
to
the
folks
that
are
the
most
vulnerable
and
I
don't
want
to
violate
any
fair
housing
rules
and
I'm?
Not
that's
not
my
intent,
but
if
you
have
someone
who
has
a
section,
8
voucher
and
there
in
an
affordable
housing
unit,
why
do
they
have
the
same
ability
to
get
the
brand-new,
affordable,
housing
unit?
That's
coming
online
to
the
lottery,
and
they
do
so
I'm
working
with
fair
housing.
C
C
That
someone
who's
homeless,
he'll
lose
the
elderly
person
is
paying
more
than
fifty
sixty
percent
of
their
income
and
rents
like.
Why
don't
they
have
some
preferences
and
we
are
starting
to
work
with
fair
housing.
On
this
issue,
we
had
a
pilot
in
JP
where
there
was
no
federal
funding
and
that
allowed
us
to
have
a
little
more
flexibility,
but
I
do
think
we.
We
do
need
to
target
these
resources
to
people
that
are
feeling
the
most
pain.
Now
this
is
Sheila
Dillon
speaking
so,
but
I
do
think.
C
We
need
to
look
at
that
and
the
upcoming
year,
and
we
are,
we
have
started
to
so
build
and
make
sure
that
the
the
units
coming
online
are
serving
the
most
vulnerable
among
us.
I
think
we
need
to
pass
this
displacement
package.
I
think
it
would
help
and
go
a
very
long
way.
I
think
you
know
some
form
of
Jim
Brooks.
C
It
would
be
a
very
good
thing
and
I
I
do
believe
that
legal
representation
I
think
everyone
deserves
legal
representation,
and
then
we
need
to
take
some
pressure
off
our
older
housing
stock
by
building
additional
market
rate
housing
as
well
and
I
know
that's
not
always
seen
as
part
of
this
equation,
but
it
is
truly
part
of
the
equation.
I
mean
we've
always
had
a
good
amount
of
affordable
housing
in
Boston,
but
what
was
really
affordable
was
the
triple-deckers
that
are
no
longer
affordable
right.
So
they
were
they
weren't
subsidized.
C
They
were
indeed
restricted,
but
they
were
a
source
of
affordable
housing
and
they're
not
as
affordable.
Now,
because
there's
just
not
enough
housing
in
the
city
of
Boston,
so
we
need
to
return
that
workforce
housing
to
our
lower
wage
workers.
So
I
think
that
that's
why
the
the
number
of
just
building
to
the
population
growth
is
very,
very
important,
but
you
know
we
are
always
looking
for
new
ideas
and
we
would
welcome
any
suggestions.
We
follow
up
on
all
of
them
pretty
diligently
I.
P
C
C
Do
a
pro
forma
showing
like
showing
showing
how
the
market
rates
being
funded,
how
the
middle
income
is
being
funded,
how
the
affordable
is
being
funded
and
making
sure
if
they're
asking
us
for
resources
that
were
only
funding
what
we
should
be
funding
and
we're
we're
very,
very
tough
on
this,
so
we
never
want
to
build.
We
never
want
to
fund
market
rate
housing.
We
want
to
see
it
develop.
We
just
don't
want
to
fund
it
and.
P
C
But
anything
else
you're
considering
second,
so
we
have
right
now
we
have
permitted
or
in
construction
264
units
of
affordable
elderly
housing,
and
we
have
got
another
200
in
the
pipeline.
So
so
it's
four
hundred
and
four
hundred
and
sixty-four
units
that
right
now,
yes
about
four
hundred
and
sixty
four
years,
five
hundred
units
of
affordable
elderly
housing.
Now,
given
that
this
is
our
fastest
growing
population
and
many
of
them
are
low-income-
that's
not
enough
right!
C
So
we
really
are
looking
at
our
land
inventory,
all
the
time
to
see
what
we
can
put
out
for
elderly,
housing
and
I.
Think
I.
Think
a
councillor
Baker's
idea
of
looking
at
the
municipal
buildings
and
I
mention
we're
going
to
have
someone
with
us,
as
some
are
looking
at.
That
I
mean
what
would
be
a
better
use
in
having
a
library
that
needs
to
be
refurbished
and
above
that,
3
or
4
stories
of
elderly
housing
that
be
very
compatible
use.
C
P
Thank
you
for
those
figures
and
I
will
say:
I
absolutely
agree
with
councillor
Baker.
We
often
talk
about
cuz,
we
split
Dorchester
fields,
corner,
you
know
the
library
in
fields
corner
which
is
slated
to
have
some
renovations
done
and
then
other
libraries
that
it
will
come
just
thinking
about
not
just
the
libraries,
of
course,
what
other
buildings
might
be.
Might
we
be
renovating
or
tearing
down
and
frankly
constructing
something
entirely
new
that
could
have
incorporate
some
sense
of
housing
for
our
most
vulnerable,
particularly
our
seniors.
P
One
of
my
frustrations
with
government
is
just
sometimes
the
pace
of
how
slow
things
are
around
here.
So
if
I
I
hope
you
move
a
little
bit
faster
on
this
I
know,
you
know,
I
I
know
you
worked
very
hard.
I
know
your
team
does
as
well,
but
it
really
is
sad
and
devastating
to
have
to
tell
some
of
these
residents,
but
there's
really
nothing
we
can
do,
but
just
keep
having
them
apply
for
units,
add
their
names
to
waitlist,
knowing
that
they
won't
hear
back
in
years.
A
P
Even
often,
sometimes
we're
suggesting
other
places
that
we
may
know
of
personally
and
other
municipalities
in
the
Commonwealth
for
them
to
apply
to.
But
it's
really
devastating,
especially
if
you,
when
you
see
new
units
going
up
and
around,
but
that
are
not
specifically
for
them
and
I
the
fastest-growing
population,
with
the
fixing.
C
It
I
agree,
you
know,
and
I
and
I
apologize
for
the
pace
of
things.
You
know
we
fund
and
then
we
can't
fund
in
our
whole
the
whole
development
budgets,
because
we
would
we
would
only
fund
several
projects
a
year
because
you
know
development,
expensive,
so
projects
then
go
on
to
the
state
in
their
competitive
funding
rounds
and
they
can
take
years.
We
always
are
getting
projects
coming
out
the
other
end,
but
the
process
is
a
long
one.
If
we're
going
to
leverage
funds
so
I
do
apologize.
C
P
C
Only
concern
on
the
IDP
is
that
so
are
including
the
include
the
inclusionary
development
money
goes
up
and
down
depending
on
the
market
right.
So
when
there's
a
lot
of
market
we're
extracting
a
lot
from
private
development,
when
the
market
goes
down,
those
extractions
stop
and
with
vouchers,
once
you
take
on
a
family
or
a
household,
you
you,
you
have
to
fund
them,
that's
my
stainable
forever.
It
has
to
be
sustainable
because
you
can
never
say
to
a
family.
C
Oh
we
don't
have
IDP
this
year
for
you,
so
you
know
that
the
I
think
was
been
being
talked
about.
Is
five
million
dollars
a
year,
but
that's
five
million
for
three
hundred
families,
for
you
know
four
for
the
duration,
unless
you,
unless
we
were
exploring
a
short
term
voucher
which
I
think
can
be,
can
be
a
difficult,
a
difficult
proposition.
So
we
have
to
find
a
source
of
funding
that
is
not
reliant
on
a
variable
source
of
funding.
Well,.
P
N
was
this
I
see
the
chair
is
back
I'll
end
with
this.
You
know
we
look
at
the
budget
and
I'm
a
firm
believer
that,
frankly,
you
know,
BPS
has
a
lot
of
money.
We
give
a
lot
of
money
to
BPS
and
in
this
particular
budget
I
tell
my
constituents
all
the
time.
Look
at
the
budget
closely,
particularly
the
bigger
breakdowns
and
yes,
bps
needs
money.
P
Of
course,
education
is
important,
but
housing
housing
is
equally
important,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
give
more
say
forty
plus
million
dollars
to
BPS,
I
want
to
think
about
that,
because
I
want
to
think
about
programs
that
have
an
immediate
impact
or
address
just
as
much
of
a
pressing
need,
and
we
know
we
can
get
turn.
Obviously
bps.
We're
figuring
this
out.
P
A
Q
They
have
city
funded
voucher
and
what
I
would
say
is
that
in
a
competitive
setting
when
you're
bidding
for
HUD
grants,
you
that
puts
you
at
a
distinct
disadvantage.
If
there's
other
people
who
are
being
more
aggressive
relative
to
these
issues
and
I,
think
we
owe
it
to
the
people
who
were
displaced
from
Long,
Island
I,
think
we
owe
it
to
the
people
who
are
being
unfairly
displaced
from
others.
Q
Q
There
are
maybe
other
communities
that
you're
going
to,
but
you're
absolutely
not
going
to
go
to
Boston
and
we
need
to
know
if
someone's
homeless
they
have
bad
credit.
That's
that's
a
that's
a
reality.
They
probably
don't
have
utility
bills
and
and
and
the
bills
to
show
things
moving
forward.
So
what
this
is
an
innovation
we've
brought
it
forward
year
after
year,
where
our
is
Mayor,
Walsh
and
where's,
the
administration
relative
to
actually
moving
forward
with
something
that
we
know
is
a
solution.
Q
Q
C
So
you
know
DC's
that
is
sort
of
a
unique
and
I
don't
profess
and
understand
their
their
total
financial
situation,
but
they're
a
city
state,
so
they're
the
amount
of
money
they
have
for
resources,
it's
like
if
D,
if
all
of
the
state
resources
and
Boston's
resources
were
combined.
It's
good,
it's
this
very,
very
unique
situation
and
I'm
very
envious
of
Polly
Donaldson,
because
she's
a
hard
time
spending
all
of
her
money.
My
counterpart
in
DC,
I,
think
you
know,
the
administration's
position
has
been
that
we
are
interested
in
a
voucher
program,
am
I.
C
Think
I
think
the
mayor
said
that
if
the
City
Council
could
identify
resources
through
the
budget
process
that
as
a
concept
is
very
interested
in
it,
you
know
I
I,
look
at
the
numbers
and
I'm
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
is
best
and
because
that's
what
we
do
right.
We
look
at
the
resources
we
try
to
figure
out
what's
best
and
the
idea
of
spending
five
million,
or
so
the
numbers
vary
to
help
three
hundred
three
hundred
families
for
twenty
years
five
million
a
year.
C
That's
a
lot
a
lot
of
resource
for
a
fairly
small
impact.
That's
my
that's!
My
only
concern
versus
continue
to
put
money
in
building
affordable
housing
and
helping-
probably
you
know
ten
times
that
number
of
families,
so
it's
it's.
It's
I
think
we're
very
interested
in
that
potential
pilot
program.
It's
just
a
question
of
resource,
so.
Q
I
think
that
when
you
look
at
the
impact
that
work,
that
the
individuals
who
are
are
being
displaced
from
the
southampton
shelter,
they
sat
right
where
you
are
and
that
impact
is
their
whole
life
and
for
many
of
the
individuals
that
we're
talking
about
they're,
HIV,
positive
and
they're,
being
displaced
from
a
place
that
actually
supports.
Not
only
the
housing
needs,
but
also
the
the
mandatory
nutritional
needs
that
they
have
to
be
able
to
take
the
antiretroviral
cocktail.
Q
One
of
the
individuals
who
sat,
I
think
right
where
you
are,
is
homeless
and
he
had
a
job.
He
was
driving
and
he
said
hey.
You
know
what
I
just
need
some
housing,
but
I'm
working
every
day
and
I
need
to
have
an
opportunity
to
sleep
and
he's
again
he's
a
driver.
He
got
into
two
weeks
after
the
shelter
went
to
emergency
status.
Q
He
got
into
an
accident
on
a
pretty
serious
accident
on
on
the
Mass
Pike
and
he
lost
his
job
so
that
that
small
impact
is
literally
transformative
to
the
lives
and
it
really
should
be
at
both
end.
If
you
build
a
boatload
of
housing
in
between
the
you
can
shut
that
take
down
the
vouchers
and
shut
down
the
program,
but
to
the
people
who
are
now
displaced
from
Long
Island,
and
what
I'm
dealing
with
in
my
district
is
that
they're
people
who
are
sleeping
behind
schools,
I,
heard
counsel
cam,
will
bring
up
schools.
Well.
Q
I
would
also
note
that
this
would
help
the
mayor
fulfill.
The
1700
units
of
low-income
housing
that
he's
trying
to
get
to
by
2030
this
counts,
so
I
would
just
encourage
you
and
and
to
continue
to
think
in
that
space.
We
also
know
the
Cleveland
said
has
noted
that
we
are
the
fastest
gentrifying
city
in
the
u.s.
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
a
I
don't
believe
it's
updated
for
this
year,
but
I
let
the
last
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
That
has
been
the
assertion.
Q
A
C
Idp
was
increased,
not
the
percentage
on
site
remain
the
same.
The
remain
the
same
so
about
I
want
to
say
year
and
a
half
ago,
or
so
we
look
at
the
policy
and
made
some
revisions.
The
on
site
requirement,
13%
has
remained
the
same.
The
percentage
off
site
went
from
15
to
18%,
and
the
buyout
provision
which
is
allowed
in
some
instances
has
gone
in,
has
increased
in
the
downtown
zone.
C
It
is
now
a
minimum
of
three
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
per
unit
in
Zone
B
sort
of
the
the
second-tier
neighborhood
not
here,
but
the
second
trip.
As
you
move
outside
the
city,
you
know
South
Boston,
JP
parts
of
East
Boston,
that
is
at
300,000
and
then
in
the
outer
neighborhoods
it
remained
a
200,000
per.
Q
L
Q
That
we
should
be
more
aggressive
in
this
market,
there's
an
opportunity
and
if
we
can
peg
it
to
some
type
of
of
index,
that's
fine,
but
in
this
market
and
then
what
happened
in
Cambridge
is
what
people,
what
the
developers
actually
say
here.
Oh
my
goodness,
we're
going
to
stop
building
with
they
don't
stop,
building,
there's
still
better
more,
and
so
what
I
would
say
to
you
is
I
think
we
should
be
more
aggressive
in
this
space,
especially
considering
the
expiring
use
that
is
I
know
in
my
district.
Q
There
are
several
eminent
expiring
use
that
we
need
to
really
thinking
about,
and
so
the
you
know,
the
first
thing
that
you
do
when
you're
in
the
hole
you
need
to
stop
digging
right,
and
so,
if
we
lose
those
okay,
then
we
now
can't
actually
move
move
forward
and
go
up
before
I
finish
because
I'm
not
even
looking
over
there
but
I,
know
I
know
the
the
eye
is
coming.
I
would
I
would
say,
I
want
to
take
time
to
just
acknowledge
some
stars
that
you
have
in
your
department.
Q
Jeff
alkanes
helps
my
office
all
the
time
with
foreclosures
I'm,
a
foreclosure
prevention
and
there's
a
second
kind
of
lagging
component
around
foreclosures.
That
I
think
we
need
to
be
thoughtful
about
I.
Just
want
to
thank
you
for
him.
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
a
Lydia
Edwards,
the
work
that
she
has
done
and
I'll
be
honest.
The
best
lunch-and-learn
that
I've
had
so
far
was
the
one
that
the
office
of
housing
stability
did
like
we
were.
Q
We
were
all
we
probably
killed
some
more
trees
there,
because
we
all
were
writing
notes
for
the
whole
time,
and
it's
just
having
that
one-stop
shop
is
really
important
in
her
breadth
of
knowledge
is
very
impressive
and
I
would
also
note
that
Donald
Wright
has
been
outstanding
in
working
with
him.
His
level
of
professionalism,
his
follow-through
and
his
ability
to
connect
with
folks
and
my
district
has
been
exceptional,
so
I
just
wanted
to,
as
we
have
that
conversation
note
that
there
are
is
great
work
happening
there.
You
don't
have
enough
money
and
I
know.
Q
This
is
one
that
we
will
never
have
quite
enough,
but
at
a
time
when
we
have
more
than
we've
had
in
the
past,
I
believe
more
money
should
be
allocated
in
your
space
and
it
is
urgent
to
someone
who's
homeless
right
now.
300
units
is
a
huge
number.
400
units
is
a
huge
number
and
if
I
just
left,
Long
Island
and
that's
been
two
years
or
three
years,
that's
exactly
what
I
need
not
to
stabilize
my
life
and
so
I
think
that
is
critical,
that
we
move
forward
in
that
space.
Thank
you
so
much.
Mr.
Q
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
and
to
all
my
colleagues
for
their
great
questions.
Thank
you
to
you
all
I
think
councillor
Campbell
is
really
emphasizing
the
importance
of
what
you
all
do
and
it's
it's
the
fundamental
piece
of
whether
someone
can
say
in
our
city
and
what
our
city
looks
like
and
the
feel
for
community
of
every
community.
So
thank
you
for
your
efforts.
J
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
earlier
presentation,
the
numbers
that
I
have
in
front
of
me
sort
of
summarizing
what
you
presented
very
impressive
in
terms
of
housing
production
and
where
we
are
relative
to
goals
disappointed
in
overall
context.
You
might
sorry
you
might
have
said
this
already,
but
how
many
total
units
are
there
of
housing
in
the
city
of
Boston,
rental
and
homeownership.
J
160,000
on
the
rental
side,
ok
great,
thank
you
and
then
just
to
follow
up
on
councillor
Jackson's
questions
around
linkage
and
increasing
the
linkage
rates.
So
first
I
was
at
a
conference
of
City
Council
presidents
from
cities
around
the
country
and
talking
about
some
of
the
innovations
of
your
department
and
when
I
said
the
$8,
eight
plus
dollars
a
square
foot
number
some
of
the
jobs
dropped
around
the
table.
That
Boston
was
able
to
sustain
some
of
those
numbers.
J
J
J
J
Then,
in
terms
of
city-owned
parcels
again
some
of
the
numbers
here
that
the
city
has
conveyed
and
sold
a
certain
number
of
parts,
so
518
total
units
coming
off
of
the
149
parcels
conveyed
66
tentatively
designated
how
many
total
buildable
city-owned
parcels
are
left.
Oh,
it's
sort
of.
What's
the
madness.
C
C
C
451
of
those
are
in
active
disposition,
so
we
are
either
have
RFPs
on
the
street
or
we
are
working
with
communities
on
on.
You
know
starting
to
have
conversations
identifying
doing
surveys,
so
we
have
been
very,
very
aggressive.
We
would
like
not
to
be
a
land
owner
in
love
with
the
stuff
back
on
tax
rolls.
We
want
community
gardens
and
urban
farms
and
new
homes
and
or
new
areas
for
light
industrial.
So
our
goal
really
is
with
you
know,
doing
it
responsibly,
but
we
would
like
to
dispose
of
all
of
this
land
and.
J
J
C
The
density
bonuses
were
a
part
of
the
Jaypee
rocks
and
the
south
boston,
strategic
planning,
area
planning
and
they're
they're
underway.
They
will
now
be
used
so
because
the
guidelines
were
approved,
it's
not
in
the
zoning
but
because
the
guidelines
were
approved
by
the
VP
DA's
board.
Any
project
now
coming
before
the
board
in
J
in
the
JP
Rox
area
will
trigger
the
IDP
and
it
will
trigger
the
density
bonuses
and
that
will
get
us
at
just
about
21%,
affordable,
leti
on
any
particular
site.
So
if
a
developer
chooses
to
do
the
denser
development
and.
C
C
K
Thank
You
Donald
SML
follow
my
chair.
If
the
F
IR
is
one
well,
it
depends
on
what
the
current
FA
are
it.
So
the
the
the
the
densities
have
stayed
the
same
in
the
rezoning
and
if
you
want
to
build
in
a
one
over
one
FA
are
it
currently.
The
density
bonus
is
triggered
if
the
density
is
currently
two
FBAR.
That's
my
density
bonus
to
figure
it's
the
same
density
bonus
in
both
case
and.
J
K
Their
the,
if
you're,
building
to
the
original
density,
then
you
have
to
abide
by
the
original
IDP
requirements:
13%,
affordability
and
then,
if
you
are
over,
when
you
build
over
one
or
two
FBI,
depending
on
the
the
current
zoning,
that's
when
the
new
density
that
kicks
in
of
the
additional
density
I
forget
the
number
at
the
top.
My
head
I
think
it's
thirty
percent
of
the
event
of
the
new
units
I
have
to
be
affordable
and
that
combine
those
two
together.
The
original
plus
the
new,
is
what
get
you
the
20%
that
Sheila
mentioned.
Okay,.
J
C
So,
but
because
what's
happened
is
that
the
the
piece
that
is
the
density
bonus
piece,
there's
good
conversations
going
out
the
community
about
what
they
would
like
to
see.
So
in
South
Boston
people
wanted
the
extra
value
to
create
more
housing
for
the
middle
class
in
JP
rocks.
They
wanted
the
extra
value
to
go
back
into
creating
units
for
much
lower
income.
Households,
so
I
think
it
is
a
good
process
to
hear
what
the
community
sees
its
needs
to
be
and
then
design
accordingly,
right.
J
And
then,
finally,
just
in
conversations
with
San
Francisco,
some
of
the
folks
that
were
saying
that
they
had
recently
reached
an
agreement
with
HUD
around
neighborhood
preference
in
their
new
subsidized
units
that
were
that
were
under
construction,
meaning
that
there's
an
additional
bonus
for
folks
who
live
within
that
census
tract
essentially
giving
previous
residents
an
extra
bump
in
the
lottery.
Yes,.
C
I've
heard
it's
a
little
more
complicated
than
that
and
I
can't
for
the
like
me
now
pull
up
about
the
complication,
but
I
am
talking
to
Olsen
Lee
about
it,
because
we're
looking
at
that
New
York
also
is
involved
in
a
lawsuit,
and
we
would.
We
would
love
to
get
there
and
not
not
to
exclude
people
from
moving
freely
about
the
city.
But
if
people
and
I
don't
think
it
was
based
on
need
and
give.
C
B
You
before
I
go
to
councillor
sabi
Joyce
I
wanted
to
just
thank
you,
G
Donald,
who
regularly
supplies
my
office
with
very
important
information
Devon
as
well.
Thanks
for
all
your
work
and
responsiveness,
and
my
good
friend
in
constituent,
Beth
Gavin,
who
was
always
on
the
front
lines,
is
she
up
there?
Hey?
B
You
know,
I
I
was
just
reminded
recently
my
neighbor
said
to
me:
you
know:
I,
don't
even
rent
out
my
apartment
anymore.
Upstairs
so
he's
got
a
three
bedroom
and
do
it
he
doesn't
want
to
rent
it
that
that's
going
to
be.
My
point
is
when
I
work
for
the
elderly
Commission
years
ago,
I
worked
closely
with
Mike
Flynn,
who
is
the
housing
person
for
at
the
elderly
Commission,
and
we
talked
about
how
many
especially
elders
that
own
their
own
homes
multi
units
that
choose
not
to
fill
them.
B
C
B
The
36
undergrad
students
is
a
citywide
number.
As
you
know,
a
lot
of
them
are
in
my
district
in
counselors,
a
achoms
district,
and
when
you
said
we
built
6,000
beds
and
it
just
brought
to
my
mind
the
fact
that
Boston
College
bought
a
property
mm
car
math,
converted
it
into
dorm
housing,
550,
I,
believe
beds
and
then
recently
finished
the
Thomas
More
building
for
490
beds.
So,
let's
say
a
thousand
50,
but
they
actually
knocked
down
almost
800
units.
Did
you
factor
all
that
into
this
calculation?
B
D
B
B
I
want
to
thank
you,
chief
and
your
entire
team,
for
you
know,
sticking
with
the
hundred
101
units
of
I
believe
low-income
veterans,
preference
housing
for
the
bright
marine
site,
which
is
finally
getting
underway.
In
addition
to
the
sixty
units
on
Chestnut
Hill
lab
that
I
believe
is
imminently
going
to
be
built.
Look
you
know,
and
then
obviously
we
celebrated
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
the
the
new
housing
for
the
child,
residence
in
in
all
of
North
brighten,
the
area
and
again
I.
B
B
What
are
some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
to
stabilize
prices
in,
and
do
you
have
a
sense
right
now
of
where
the
market
is
I
read
just
recently
that
it
looked
like
prices
were
stabilizing
in
a
lot
of
neighborhoods,
but
in
particular
they
named
Austin
and
Brighton
is
not
is
still
going
up.
Can
you
speak
to
that?
A
little
sure.
C
So
you
know,
I
mean
we're
I,
think
we're
looking
at
every
factor
and
how
how
all
of
this
different
variables
are
impacting.
You
know
each
other
you're
right,
we're
tracking
the
rent,
we're
tracking
the
production,
we're
tracking
what's
coming
online
and
the
impact
that's
having
on
the
existing
housing
stock
and
from
2015
to
2016.
We
have
seen
the
rent
levels
of
the
older
housing
stock
housing
that
was
built
before
2011
before
the
boom.
What's
what
is
what
kind
of
impact
is
it
having
on
the
older
housing
stock
and
rents?
C
Citywide
have
come
down
by
4%
and
that's
a
good
trend.
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
it's
not
going
to
solve
all
of
our
problems,
but
we
did.
It
was
good
to
see
a
decrease.
It
was
good
to
see
a
negative
number
and
we're
seeing
the
biggest
decreases
in
the
zeros
and
ones,
and
lo
and
behold,
that's
a
lot
of
what's
being
built
right,
so
we
need
to
continue.
We
need
to
continue
to
build
responsibly
and
right
transportation,
right
density,
respect
existing
neighborhoods.
All
of
the
above.
C
We
do
need
to
continue
to
build,
but
we
all
know.
That's
not
going
to
house
a
lot
of
our
constituents,
they
just
don't
have
the
money
even
for
those
reduce
market
rate
rents.
So
we
need
to
continue
to
build
more
affordable
housing
and
we're
doing
it
I.
Just
you
know,
the
resources
are
limited
and
I
think
it
takes
a
long
time
for
us
to
get
to
the
state.
C
So
the
state
working
with
your
colleague,
rep
Onan
just,
is
passing
a
pretty
significant
state
housing
bond
bill
which
will
help
us
to
and
then
once
we
make
sure
that
people
are
housed,
keeping
them
housed
because
there's
nothing
more
disruptive
to
a
family
or
an
individual
than
losing
their
hard-fought
housing.
So
it's
a
continuum
we
just
have
to
keep
at
it.
B
Again,
let
me
just
end
by
thanking
you
just
recently
and
I
see
Michael
Caine
in
the
audience
too,
for
all
our
work,
working
with
DHA
and
the
Waverly
folks
that
you
know
almost
got
displaced
them.
You
know
I'm
great,
so
that
we
had
a
good
outcome
there,
but
we
always
have
to
remain
vigilant,
and
you
know
when
I
call
you
or
Beth
or
anybody
at
DND.
It's
usually
a
urgent
nature
right.
A
B
I
You
and
once
again,
chairman
so
I,
do
wanted
to
say
how
proud
I
am
that
you've
included
my
office
on
the
continuum
of
care.
Leadership
Council
that
work
I
know
is
tremendous
and
Elizabeth
from
your
office
and
Alana
from
my
office
and
the
two
of
them
with
you
are
with
the
council.
It's
been
really
great
and
I'm
really
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
been
able
to
do.
I
I'm,
especially
proud
of
your
work
on,
and
the
council's
work
to
end
chronic
veterans,
homelessness
and
know
that
that
partnership
and
the
work
of
the
COC
is
really
is
incredibly
valuable,
but
there's
been
a
decrease
in
the
budget
and
I
think
it
may
be,
some
grant
grant
money
that's
running
out.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
of
that?
It's
1.1
million
a
continuum
of
care
budget
yeah.
E
Counselor
that
that's
it's
more
of
a
timing
issue
a
technicality,
it's
not!
We
actually
expect
it's
a
competitive
grant.
We
can't
we're
not
guaranteed
that
funding
and
FY
18,
but
the
decrease
that
you're,
seeing
in
the
budget,
keep
in
mind
that
the
estimates
per
our
external
funds
in
this
budget
is
based
on
information
that
we
had.
You
know
a
few
months
ago
when
we
submitted
when
we
submitted
the
budget
will
be
coming
back
to
you
shortly
with
our
FY
18,
our
actual
FY
18
grants.
E
When
we
get
when
we,
when
that
funding
is
kind
of
determined,
we
expect
it
to
be
more
or
less
level
level
funded.
Again.
Continuum
of
care
is
a
competitive.
Grants
will
have
to
apply
for
it,
but
the
the
decrease
is
more
having
to
do
with
the
fact
that
continuum,
continuum
of
care
and
have
crosses
over
fiscal
years
and
the
timing
of
when
the
funding
is
to
be
spent
so
Ric.
D
B
D
Grant
funds
the
federal
budget
417,
which
funds
our
18
has
been
finished,
but
it
takes
out
about
60
days
to
figure
out
what
the
actual
allocations
are.
They
have
to
apply
the
formulas
and
everything
right
so
we're
expecting
somewhere
between
July
5th
and
the
15th
of
July.
The
wool
will
get
the
actual
allocation
amount
and.
D
C
So
the
the
million
dollars
we
did
not
get,
we
didn't
get
that
planning
grant.
There
was
only
ten
I
think
in
the
country
that
were
given.
They
have
said
our
application,
scored
very
well
and
they'd
be
willing
to
work
with
us
on
technical
assistance.
So
I
think
we
do
need
to
look
anew
at
what
we
do
with
with
unaccompanied
youth
in
the
city,
and
we
do
have
some
planning
money
available
to
us
through
our
regular
continuum
of
care.
So
we're
starting
to
have
some
internal
conversation.
I
C
C
Actually
I
think
it
is
taking
some
of
the
money.
I
think
we
need
to
formalize
our
plan
right.
We've
got,
we've
had
lots
of
good
dialogue,
I
think
we
have
to
formalize
the
plan
formalize
the
numbers
of
unaccompanied
youth
and
we're
I'm
looking
at
Rick,
but
I
I'm
I'm,
pretty
confident
we
do
have
some
planning
money
to
get
that
work
done.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
million
dollars,
but
I
think
we
can
do
something
much
more
reasonably
come
up
with
an
unaccompanied
youth
plan.
We
know
we
have
gaps
in
that
system.
C
I
Of
the
sort
of
the
most
exciting
pieces
of
applying
for
that
brand
was
our
commitment
to
follow
through
with
it,
regardless
of
same
regardless
of
the
funding.
Can
we
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that
and
I
hope
that
we're
going
to
do
it
with
that?
We're
not
going
to
step
back
from
that
commitment
at
all
that
we're
going
to
continue
forward,
pushing
forward
on
that
work
with
the
same
excitement
as
we
applied
for
that
grant.
I
agree.
C
E
C
I
E
J
B
N
C
It's
it's
available
to
regular
people,
so
form
profits
and
nonprofits.
There
certainly
has
to
be
a
willingness,
though,
if
we
fund
a
particular
building
that
there's
going
to
be
long
term,
affordability,
so
there's
deed
restrictions.
So
what
happens
is
in
any
entity
that's
interested
in
working
with
this
program.
They
come
in.
We
underwrite
the
entity.
You
know.
Are
they
good
managers?
Are
they
do
they
have
sufficient
funds,
capacity,
experience
etc?
C
C
N
C
Right
so
1500
per
unit
and
landlords
would
just
have
to
be
renting
below
the
fair
market
rent.
So
the
fair
market
rents
are
published
by
HUD,
so
they
would,
if
it's
passed
out,
I
think
would
be
implemented.
They
would
on
their
tax
before
their
tax
forms,
just
fill
out
a
simple
form
showing
what
the
rents
were
certifying.
What
the
rents
were
there
under
the
fair
market,
publish
rents,
they'd
be
eligible
for
the
credit
or.
C
N
C
N
N
B
B
S
S
I
want
to
thank
councillors,
Jackson
asabi,
George,
Campbell,
Baker's,
a
camus,
O'malley
and
clarity
for
affirming
housing
is
a
human
right
and
supporting
a
proposal
for
the
city,
funded
housing,
rental
assistance,
voucher
program,
so
we've
had
the
support
of
nine
councillors
and
that
would
dress
the
low
income
renter
needs
outlined
in
the
mayor's
housing
plan.
He
is
still
not
included
the
five
million
dollars
to
permanently
house
at
least
350
could
be
any
members
experiencing
homelessness.
This
proposed
program
has
been
amazingly
successful
in
Washington
DC
and
would
be
the
same
here.
S
The
Community
Preservation
Act
is
one
obvious
source
of
income
for
this
program,
but
our
funding
for
this
program
and
should
be
included
in
the
city's
budget
this
year,
regardless
that
this
income
is
not
here
yet
I
want
to
mention
the
gentlemen
who
are
currently
and
soon
to
be
formerly,
participants
in
projects
or
and
safe
harbor
who'll
be
losing
their
transitional
programs
on
June
30th.
The
city
has
been
aware
of
this
loss
of
funding
for
at
least
a
year
and
a
half,
but
only
informed
them
in
March.
S
S
Since
then
conditions
there
have
deteriorated
greatly.
Many
gentlemen
had
relapsed,
others
have
returned
to
jail
due
to
their
relapse
and
one
lost
his
long
term.
Employment,
as
councillor
Jackson
mentioned
he's
also
repeatedly
been
hospitalized
due
to
deteriorating
health
conditions,
and
stress
he's
been
told
to
reduce
the
stress
in
his
life
and,
unfortunately,
that's
not
something
within
his
power.
The
health
of
the
gentlemen
who
are
living
with
HIV
has
been
declining
from
one
week
to
the
next.
S
One
now
uses
a
cane
he
had
been
walking
fine
before
he's
having
difficulty
accessing
his
medications,
which
is
supposed
to
be
refrigerated
and
has
been
reduced
to
having
to
carry
around
bottles
of
water
on
his
person
at
all
times
to
try
to
keep
them
refrigerated,
since
their
kitchen
was
actually
demolished
and
they're
no
longer
able
to
go
to
their
beds
for
rest,
I've
spent
several
mornings
with
them
between
7:00
a.m.
and
9:00
a.m.
over
at
McDonald's
done
a
new
market
square
surrounded
other
people
who
are
homeless
milling
around
with
nowhere
to
go.
S
The
shelters
are
open
during
this
time,
but
there's
nothing
for
them
to
do
when
they're
told
to
either
remain
in
the
hallway
standing
or
in
the
cafeteria,
where
it's
often
being
cleaned.
We've
looked
for
housing.
A
few
of
them
do
have
vouchers
but
have
been
able
to
find
anything
because
the
vouchers
don't
mean
the
high
cost
of
rent
in
Boston.
S
So
you
know,
we've
tried
attempting
to
appeal
to
the
mayor.
We've
sent
a
petition
48
of
them
signed
it.
There
are
no
longer
nearly
48
people
enrolled
in
that
program.
As
I
said,
many
of
them
have
relapsed
or
you
know,
returned
to
jail,
and
we've
only
received
a
very
canned
response
that
read
more
like
a
PR
piece
from
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission.
That
didn't
even
acknowledge
that
these
are
the
people
being
impacted,
and
you
know
a
city
funded
housing.
Voucher
program
would
house
these
folks
and
keep
the
commitment
that
has
been
made
to.
S
Without
it
they
will
end
up
homeless,
back
in
the
emergency
shelter
or
on
the
streets.
The
people
who
remain
are
quickly
losing
help.
You
know
they
have
a
month's
and
some
change,
and
it
really
isn't
a
long
time,
and
you
know
kempler,
CML
and
austin
residents
have
been
a
resident
for
thirteen
years
and,
as
a
constituent
I
would
ask
you
to
support
this.
Just
as
the
other
councillors
have.
You
know,
we
also
have
folks
who
are
elderly
disabled
in
Babcock
towers,
who,
on
March
4,
there's
first
of
2019
may
end
up
homelessness.
S
B
H
Hi,
my
name
is
Sheree
knows
I'm
a
member
of
the
Boston
homeless,
solidarity
committee
and
I'm,
formerly
homeless,
I
been
working
with
Cassie,
with
the
men
at
project
or
and
safe
harbor
following
their
story
and
their
struggle
to
maintain
their
lives
after
the
closure
of
their
program
and
I
want
to
thank
envoy
Jackson
for
highlighting
their
story
because
needs
to
be
told.
I
stood
here.
We
during
the
council
hearing
on
the
version
of
the
program
and
explains
the
repercussions
of
suddenly
closing
the
program,
and
a
lot
of
that
has
happened.
H
Sadly,
and
it's
sad
to
have
see
these
men
every
week
and
hear
more
stories
of
men
relaxing
and
going
back
to
jail,
it
is
horrific
to
hear
that
and
they
were
promised
housing
first,
they
were
going
to
be
rapidly
rehoused
and
I
haven't
seen
that
happening.
As
was
stated,
men
have
vouchers
and
are
struggling
to
find
housing,
and
it
is
really
really
sad
for
them
because
they
can't
maintain.
You
know
their
health
because
of
the
living
situations
or
their
sobriety.
They
are
amongst
people
who
are
using
drugs,
they're,
not
getting
adequate
food
in
the
shelter's.
H
You
know
more
responsive
and
really
see
that
these
men
need
more
help,
and
it's
pretty
funny
Ross
program
would
help
with
creating
more
housing.
I
mean
I,
weave,
there's
been
a
proposal
put
forth,
there's
been
ways
to
fund
it
and
it's
not
being
supported
by
the
mayor.
People
I've
met
with
him
large
delegations.
People
met
with
him
and
spoke
eloquently
about
the
proposals
that
he
wanted
to
have.
H
He
needed
ways
to
fund
it
ways
to
fund
it
were
brought
to
him
and
he
still
is
fighting
to
not
have
it
in
the
budget
because
he
says,
there's
no
funds,
but
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
fund
it.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
get
the
homeless
off
the
street
find
a
way
to
get
these
men
who
are
struggling,
who
are
going
back
to
jail,
who
are
who
are
losing
their
jobs,
who
are
really
at
the
lowest
of
the
low
Nats
and
they're
like
housing.
They
were
promised
housing.
H
Many
of
us
who
are
here
today
sat
here
and
heard
that
they
were
going
to
be
rapidly
rehoused
and
that
hasn't
happened.
It
is
not
happening.
It
is
not
happening
fast
enough.
Their
lives
are
being
compromised.
We
need
the
city
to
be
more
responsive
to
this
and
really
take
interest
in
it.
It's
sad
that
the
city
is
not
seeing
it
as
much
of
a
problem
as
it
is,
or
at
least
when
letting
it
be
known
that
they
see
it
as
a
problem,
we're
just
brushing
it
off
as
we're
doing
the
best.
H
We
can
well
you're
not
doing
the
best
we
can.
The
city
is
not
going
to
Passaic
and
they
could
be
doing
more
for
these
men
to
help
them
get
into
housing
and
maintain
their
lives
and
not
spiral
out
of
control,
because
that's
literally
what
we
see
on
a
regular
basis.
You
know
we
see
these
men
just
reverting
back
to
where
they
came
from
and
undoing.
You
know
the
progress
they
have
made
to
turn
their
lives
around.
H
B
R
My
name
is
Michael
Caine,
I'm
the
director
of
the
mass
alliance
of
HUD
tenants,
and
we
work
with
the
s
to
save
our
section.
Eight
committee
that
came
up
with
the
proposal
for
a
city
funded,
rent
subsidy,
we're
changing.
We
started
calling
it
housing
voucher
program,
but
the
reality
is
we're
proposing
a
rent
subsidy
program
that
could
be
used
for
vouchers
or
for
project-based
rental
assistance
that
could
go
into
these
new
buildings
that
the
city
is
building
and
actually
secure
the
low-income
component
in
those
buildings.
R
So
that's
the
biggest
problem,
capital
grants
from
the
IDP
or
other
sources
or
even
the
CPA,
are
not
sufficient
to
lower
the
rents
for
the
majority
of
people
in
the
city
who
need
housing.
Eighty
percent
of
the
median
is
way
above
the
median
income
in
the
city
of
Lawsons.
There's
most
people
in
the
city
or
below
35
percent
of
the
median,
so
you
need
to
have
a
low
income
subsidy
component,
whether
it's
from
the
federal
state
or
city
governments.
R
So
our
proposal-
and
we
really
appreciate
councillor
George
and
the
other
eight
counselors-
that
several
spoke
today
that
have
strongly
supported
this
idea.
Last
year
and
this
year
we
went
to
the
mirror.
A
coalition
of
wide
variety
of
groups
met
with
a
mirror
in
June,
and
he
said
that
we
wouldn't
include
it
in
last
year's
budget,
but
he
would
include
it
in
the
fiscal
18
budget,
the
request
for
a
five
million
dollar
pilot
program.
He
would
do
it.
Yes,
we
could.
We
could
show
sustainable
funding
sources
and
miss
Dillon
is
correct.
R
Once
you
make
a
commitment
to
somebody,
you
don't
want
to
cut
them
off,
although
the
average
federal
voucher
holder
lasts
about
seven
years.
So
it's
not.
It
isn't
really
forever.
The
program
would
recycle
to
new
people,
but
it
should
be
a
sustainable
item.
That's
correct!
So
we
came
in
with
a
memo.
I
have
a
copy
here
that
we
presented
to
the
mirror
in
January
that
identified
five
different
ways
to
do
this
and
three
of
them
we
went
into
in
a
second
meeting
with
a
mirror
in
March.
It
was
a
twenty
third.
R
In
March
we
had
met
27th
I'm,
sorry,
we
met
again
and
we
went
over
our
sustainable
options.
One
is
the
city
budget,
the
City
of
Boston,
three
billion
dollar
budget
is
a
sustainable
thing.
If
it
isn't
we're
all
in
trouble.
The
city
of
Washington
DC
funds,
their
rent
subsidy
program
from
the
regular
city
budget.
They
don't
earmark
anything
they've
been
doing
it
since
2007.
They
fund
37
million
a
year
in
a
city
budget,
about
this
comparable
to
Boston's
in
a
city
the
size
of
Boston.
They
just
funded.
R
It's
like
another
subsidy
source
like
the
federal
section
8
source.
So
our
proposal
is
modeled
on
that
it
would
have
the
same
features.
The
VHA
would
administer
it.
It
could
go
for
either
new
buildings
or
vouchers.
The
vouchers
could
pay
more,
so
people
can
use
them
in
the
city
because
we
can't
there's
limits
on
the
federal
voucher,
as
you
know,
so
that
could
be
a
resource
also
for
the
13a
buildings
that
council
Jack's
mentioned,
they
have
towers.
Those
people
are
currently
facing
the
street
in
a
few
years.
R
When
the
state
protections
end,
they
will
be
out
in
the
street.
There's
200
people
there,
so
this
would
be
a
source
that,
if
it
were
established,
could
be
used
for
those
purposes.
The
council's
pilot
is
is
targeted
to
the
homeless.
People
is
called
housing
first
because
of
the
people
like
safe
harbor
and
soar
who
were
promised,
but
by
the
city
in
April.
We
will
provide
housing
for
you.
The
HUD
cut
off
the
money
because
it
wasn't
housing
first,
so
we're
going
to
provide
you
housing
for
the
problem.
R
Is
there
isn't
any
housing
first,
giving
people
first
and
last
month's
rent
when
they
have
a
minimum
wage
job
is
not
a
sustainable
commitment
either.
So
the
city
needs
to
come
up
with
the
money
to
provide
housing
first
for
those
homes
or
people,
those
70
people
are
going
to
be
homeless.
They're
already
relapsing
getting
an
accidents
losing
jobs
already
because
of
the
stress
that
this
deadline
is
coming
up,
they're
going
to
be
again
they're
going
to
be
people
in
recovery
are
going
to
be
thrown
into
a
wet
shelter.
R
So
here's
a
solution
that
the
council
is
presented,
we'd
really
like
to
get
your
support
for
this
counselor,
because
it
would
be
a
way
to
fix
this
and
provide
housing
first
to
those
people
and
another
few
hundred
families
that
are
living
in
shelters
and
costing
the
city
millions
each
year,
as
councilor
drawers
has
pointed
out
for
transportation.
Well,
if
you've
got
housing
in
Boston
they're
not
going
to
need
that
transportation
from
Medford.
So
this
is
it's
a
great
solution
that
we
think
you
so
the
other
two
sustainable
things
we
emphasize
with
the
mirror.
R
One
is
the
Community
Preservation
Act
that
will
be
a
sustainable
funding
source.
The
housing
portion
will
probably
be
in
the
1415
million
dollar
annual
range.
We're
not
asking
for
all
of
that.
This
make
a
portion
of
that
available
as
a
low
income,
rent
subsidy
it
would
be
sustainable.
The
mayor
was
in
his
Congress
is
when
he
the
way
he
was
thinking
about
it
was.
R
R
So
you
know,
HUD
makes
the
commitment
by
contract
that
provided
the
funds
are
available,
we'll
fund
this
building,
for
example,
or
these
vouchers,
but
it
is
subject
to
annual
appropriation
that
is
sustainable
as
long
as
the
fund
of
the
budget
of
the
the
city
is
sustainable.
So
if
there's
Community
Preservation
Act
money
coming
pretty,
definitely
that's
a
sustainable
funding
source.
R
We
came
up
with
another
idea:
the
city
is
building
3,000
of
a
B
count:
millennium
towers,
that's
400m,
Salida,
400
luxury
built
condos
at
Millennium
towers,
another
2,200
luxury
condos
in
your
neighborhood,
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
they're
coming
online
they're
going
to
be
selling
for
over
a
million
dollars
fee,
the
property
tax
revenue
for
one
unit
of
a
million.
At
a
million
dollars
is
10
and
400
a
year
right
because
that's
the
tax
rate,
ten
thousand
four
hundred
a
year
is
enough
to
sustain
a
project-based
subsidy
for
a
low
income
renter
indefinitely.
R
So
if
the
just
the
four
hundred
units
at
Millennium
right
capped
by
the
thirty
seven
and
a
half
million
dollar
condo
the
break
in
blood
in
the
top
floor,
that
is
right
there.
His
unit
alone
is
enough
to
fund
thirty
some
low-income
rent
subsidies
permanently.
All
the
city
needs
to
do
is
earmark
their
revenues
from
the
new
construction
of
condos
that
are
above
a
million
dollars,
just
those
right
or
a
portion
of
them,
and
then
you
have
a
sustainable
and
growing
program
that
could
meet
the
actual
needs
of
the
city.
R
That's
what
most
of
us
experience
when
we
see
new
luxury
development
going
up
in
the
communities,
especially
at
the
localized
market
level,
so
this
would
take
some
of
the
pressure
off
by
getting
making
sure
that
the
people
being
displaced
by
this
new
development
I
went
by
the
on
the
way
down
here.
I
grow
by
the
this
new
building
in
the
Fenway.
This
I
get.
It
was
entirely
built
with
foreign
investment.
R
Money
of
people
buying
the
eb-5
visas
basically
was
marketed
in
China
to
people
to
buy
a
visa,
so
they
get
permanent
residence
to
invest
in
this
tall
twelve
building.
So
the
developer
is
basically
taking
advantage
of
that
market.
They're
not
even
going
to
live
there,
but
that's
going
to
drive
up
prices
in
the
Fenway.
So,
let's
tap
into
their
taxes
that
they're
going
to
be
paying
and
make
sure
that
the
residents
of
the
city,
people
who
live
here
are
able
to
stay.
So
those
are
three
right
there.
R
Community
Preservation,
Act
and
I
should
add
our
organism.
Earth
challenged
us,
you
know,
get
a
pass,
we
went
and
we
worked
very
hard.
We
have
sixty
our
organization
alone
as
sixty
three
poles
we
had
to
to
covered
in
your
district
all
day
counselor.
We
work
very
hard
to
get
that
past,
because
we
saw
that
as
a
source
that
should
go
to
the
people
who
need
it,
the
most
low-income
renters
that
is
getting
hurt
the
most.
We
see
that,
as
that
should
be
the
priority,
not
the
exclusive
use,
but
a
priority
of
the
CPA.
R
So
we're
you
know
we're
part
of
the
yvb
coalition.
We
support
their
recommendations
by
the
way
I've
got
to
give
the
plug
for
that
on.
You
know
for
the
how
to
set
set
up
at
Bunn
we're
going
to
be
working
with
them
and
with
the
city
about
how
that
money
is
spent,
but
here's
a
really
good
way.
The
council
councils
letter
to
the
mayor
mentioned
the
CPA
is
one
sustainable
source,
so
we
were
very.
We
raised
this
with
the
mayor.
We
went
into
all
of
this.
R
We
didn't
answer
that
point
that
he
made
about.
Well
put
it
all
in
one.
You
know
he
was
thinking,
put
it
in
one
in
a
pot
for
one
year
and
that
sustains
it,
which
is
what
Waltham
I
think
is
doing.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
that
way.
He
could
just
be
a
commitment
of
resources
for
that
amount
of
money
in
the
budget
each
year.
Just
like
Washington
does.
R
We
were
very
disappointed
that
he
did
not
include
it
in
his
budget
request.
We
feel
that
he
is
not
as
Mel
King
put
it
honored
his
commitment.
His
Mel
was
in
the
meeting
in
June.
He
did
not
honor
his
commitment
to
include
it
if
we
could
identify
sustainable
funding,
so
we're
hoping
he'll
changes.
My
manager
helped
to
persuade
him-
and
you
know
make
this
happen
in
time
to
prevent
the
people
from
safe,
harbor
and
sword
from
being
thrown
out
into
the
streets
and
through
a
wet
shelter
that
will
destroy
their
lives.
Thank
you.
Michael.