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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on April 30, 2018
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Dockets #0559-0565 - Fiscal Year 2019 Budget: Department of Neighborhood Development
A
We
are
here
with
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Neighborhood
Development
I'd,
like
to
remind
folks
that
this
hearing
is
a
public
meeting
being
broadcast,
live
and
recorded
on
Comcast
channel
8,
our
CN
82
and
Verizon
1964,
and
streamed
at
Boston,
gov
backslash
city
council,
TV
I'd.
Ask
folks
in
the
chamber
to
silence
all
your
electronic
devices,
the
conclusion
of
the
presentation
by
the
department
in
questions
from
my
colleagues.
We
will
take
public
public
testimony.
There's
a
sign-in
sheet
to
my
left.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
affiliation
residence
and
please
check
the
box.
A
If
you
do
wish
to
testify
this.
This
year's
budget
review
encompasses
over
36
hearings
over
roughly
six
weeks.
We
strongly
encourage
residents,
whether
here
in
the
chamber
or
at
home,
to
take
a
moment
to
be
engaged
in
this
process.
By
giving
testimony
for
the
record,
you
can
do
this
in
several
ways.
Come
to
one
of
the
36
hearings
in
public
publicly
testify
in
front
of
us.
Come
to
the
hearing
dedicated
to
public
testimony
on
Tuesday
June
5th
any
time
between
2:00
to
6:00
p.m.
A
I'm
gonna
introduce
my
colleagues
in
order
of
their
arrival
to
my
far
left
district
city
councillors
and
Flynn
Andrea
Campbell
and
Jar
Zakim
to
my
immediate
right,
councillor,
Tim
McCarthy
to
my
immediate
left,
councillor,
Frank
Baker
and
my
far
right
counter.
Aneesa
sabe
George
want
to
well
welcome
chief
Dillon
and
her
team
and
I
will
hand
it
off
to
you
at
this
point.
Thank.
B
You
councillor
I'm
just
going
to
spend
a
couple
of
minutes
making
some
general
remarks.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Sheila
Dillon
and
I'm
chief
of
housing
and
director
for
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development.
Testifying
with
me
today
are
two
of
D&D
deputy
directors,
rick
wilson
from
our
finance
division
and
donald
right
from
our
real
estate
management
and
sales
division.
Also
joining
me
in
the
audience
are
many
members
of
my
senior
staff,
including
our
new
deputy
director
for
the
office
of
housing,
stability,
dominique
williams,
who
you
may
or
may
not
have
met.
B
Yet
they
are
also
able
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
today.
During
this
hearing
in
fiscal
year,
19
DND
will
continue
to
strive
and
provide
outstanding
community
development
services
to
the
residents
of
Boston.
As
you
know,
Dee
Dee's
mission
is
to
build
strong,
inclusive
communities
with
access
to
stable
and
affordable
housing.
Our
work
really
cuts
across
five
main
areas:
creating
low
moderate
and
middle
income,
housing,
ending
homelessness,
strengthening
homeownership,
supporting
renters
in
housing
crisis
and
developing
surplus
city-owned
property,
with
neighborhood
input
to
meet
community
development
objectives.
B
I'd
like
to
spend
just
a
couple
of
minutes.
Updating
you
on
how
we
are
doing
in
each
of
our
strategic
areas,
what
we
have
planned
for
fiscal
year
19
and
then
provide
some
detail
on
our
operating
budget.
Let
me
start
with
Housing
Development
I
am
happy
to
report
that
we
are
on
track
to
meet
the
housing
production
goals
of
the
mayor's
housing
2030
plan.
As
you
know,
the
plan
calls
for
the
creation
of
53,000
new
you
of
housing
by
2030
to
accommodate
growth
and
stabilize
rents
and
housing
prices
as
of
March
2018.
B
Over
26,000
units
of
housing
have
been
permitted
and
are
either
in
construction
or
complete,
and
another
25,000
are
active
in
the
development
process.
In
fact,
with
5,300
new
units
permitted
this
last
calendar
year,
it
was
our
best
year
ever
for
housing
creation
in
the
22
years
that
we
have
been
tracking
such
metrics.
Since
the
start
of
the
housing
plan,
almost
10,000
units
of
housing,
affordable
to
low
and
middle-income
residents,
have
been
permitted
or
completed,
including
nearly
5,000
income,
restricted
units
with
long-term
affordability
contracts
and
over
12,000
units
of
affordable
rental
housing
has
been
preserved.
B
So
not
only
do
we
have
to
build
more
affordable
housing.
We
have
to
make
sure
the
affordable
housing
that
we
have
is
here
for
generations
to
come
and
to
accommodate
our
growing
student
population
and
ease
pressure
on
our
neighborhood
housing
supply.
Something
accounts
to
see
Elmo
and
others
care
great
deal
about.
Fifty
eight
hundred
dormitory
beds
have
been
completed
or
in
construction,
and
another
two
thousand
beds
are
in
currently
in
our
pipeline.
B
In
fiscal
year,
nineteen
we
will
continue
to
work
with
community
organizations,
nonprofits
private
developers
to
advance
the
mayor's
housing
production
goals
to
stay
on
track.
The
housing
plan
calls
for
2600
new
units
of
housing
to
be
produced
in
fiscal
year.
Nineteen,
including
thirteen
hundred
units
for
low
and
middle
income
residents.
We
will
also
work
very
hard
to
make
good
on
our
promise
to
create
more
housing
for
our
seniors
by
starting
construction
on
three
projects.
B
Sixteen
Ronald
Road
in
four
corners:
five
O'connor
Way
47,
new
units
of
elderly
housing
in
South
Boston
and
a
project,
an
elderly
project
on
North,
Marjan
Street,
hopefully
in
the
north
end
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
our
state
and
our
development
partners
to
preserve
the
affordability
in
the
state,
funded
13a
portfolio.
We've
been
working
very
very
hard
on
this.
It's
a
very
troubling
portfolio,
given
that
the
tents
don't
have
any
protections
at
the
end
of
the
affordability
period.
B
Well,
recaps
will
recapitalize
our
acquisition
opportunity
program
and
push
forward
with
our
neighborhood
homes,
initiative,
building,
affordable,
homeownership
opportunities
for
our
residents.
Our
second
strategic
area
is
the
fight
against
homelessness,
where
we
continue
to
make
significant
strides
through
the
Boston's
way
home
initiative.
D&Amp;D
and
our
partners
have
housed
over
900
homeless
veterans
since
July
2014
and
put
an
end
to
chronic
veterans
homelessness
in
Boston.
We
have
also
housed
over
480
chronically
homeless
individuals
since
January
2016.
B
These
individuals
are
our
most
challenging
and
have
been
on
the
street
and
in
shelter
for
very
long
periods
of
time
because
of
our
commitment
to
ongoing
investments
in
housing
and
services.
Boston
maintains
the
lowest
rate
of
unsheltered
people
experiencing
homelessness
among
all
major
US
cities.
Although
we've
been
able
to
house
more
than
1200,
formerly
homeless
individuals
in
the
past
three
years,
Boston
serves
as
a
regional
hub
for
service
as
an
emergency
shelter,
which
continues
to
increase
the
need
for
homeless
housing
supports
in
the
city.
B
So
to
that
end,
in
fiscal
year,
nineteen
will
place
another
200,
chronically
homeless,
individuals
and
200
homeless
veterans
into
permanent
housing
with
services,
and
will
house
300,
homeless
individuals
through
rapid
rehousing,
our
rapid
rehousing
program.
We're
also
be
focusing
this
year
on
the
critical
issues
of
youth
homelessness
and
transforming
our
emergency
shelters
system
to
respond
more
quickly
and
effectively,
both
of
those
planning
initiatives
are
underway
and
we're
very
hopeful
that
we
will
have
action
reports
completed
in
the
months
to
come.
B
Finally,
as
you
recall,
in
January
mayor
Walsh
announced
the
creation
of
Boston's
way
home
the
Boston
way
home
fund
in
partnership
with
Pine
Street,
in
with
the
goal
of
raising
ten
million
dollars
in
four
years
of
private
money
to
create
200
units
of
permanent
housing
for
our
most
vulnerable
citizens.
As
of
March,
we
have
already
raised
three
million,
so
we
are
well
on
our
way
to
meet
that
goal
and
we're
also
now
trying
to
identify
sites
where
this
housing
can
be
built.
B
I
want
to
talk
just
very,
very
briefly
about
homeownership,
so
in
addition
to
creating
housing
and
addressing
homelessness,
we
continue
to
strengthen
homeownership
throughout
the
city.
It's
a
very
challenging
market,
as
we
all
know,
in
fiscal
year,
18
our
Boston
Home
Center
is
projected
to
complete
over
2000
home
renovations
or
repairs,
including
1600
repairs
for
our
seniors.
In
March,
many
of
us
were
thrilled
to
have
mayor
Walsh
help
celebrate
our
hundred
the
senior
save
home
heating
system
replacement
project.
We
did
that
in
Roxbury.
B
These
these
repairs
are
improving
our
aging
housing
stock
and
helping
seniors
age
in
place
staying
in
the
homes
that
they
that
they
enjoy
we're.
Also
helping
low
and
middle-income
Bostonians
achieve
the
dream
of
homeownership
in
the
first
three
quarters
of
fiscal
year,
18
over
2,300
potential
homebuyers
attended,
Boston,
Home,
Center
classes
and
seminars
and
and
hundreds
receive
downpayment
assistance
in
fiscal
year.
Nineteen,
the
Boston
home
center
will
continue
to
promote
and
support
homeownership
by
providing
over
6,000
individuals
with
assistance,
including
homebuyer
classes,
seminars,
foreclosure,
counseling,
downpayment
assistance
and
home
repair
programs.
B
Just
want
to
touch
briefly
on
our
work
in
housing
stability.
So
in
fiscal
year,
17,
mayor
Walsh,
as
many
of
you
know,
and
you
helped
fund
through
this
budget,
launched
the
office
of
housing,
stability
or
OHS,
and
fiscally
ar-18
Oh
H
s,
expanded
programs
and
services
to
help
tenants
and
landlords
with
the
goal
of
preserving
tenancies
and
preventing
displacement
in
Boston's
current
real
estate
market,
the
demand
for
housing
stabilization
services
remains
too
high,
very,
very
high.
B
So
far,
this
fiscal
year,
o
HS,
has
assisted
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
constituents,
including
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine
persons
displaced
by
fire
and
over
sixty
households
from
Puerto,
Rico
and
Florida
displaced
by
natural
disaster
that
have
come
to
Boston.
Looking
for
a
new,
a
new
life,
one
of
OHS
s,
main
goals
is
to
bring
prevent
evictions
and
stabilized
tenancies.
As
of
March
OS
and
its
partners.
We
do
contract
with
some
non
profit
partners
help
divert
368
household
evictions
with
another
132
projected
by
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
B
These
are
households
that
had
received
eviction,
notices
and
we're
working.
You
know
they
were
going
to
lose
their
homes,
Oh
HS,
working
with
our
IT
departments,
and
do
it
has
also
helped
revamp.
Metro
list
this
is
our
database
of
housing
opportunities
which
now
reach
over
13,000
subscribers
weekly.
For
many
years,
we
heard
that
it
was
too
hard
to
find
affordable
housing
Boston.
B
So
we're
really
doubling
down
on
these
efforts,
making
sure
that
all
new
listings
that
come
online
are
available
to
folks
that
are
looking
for
housing
so
in
fiscal
year,
19
we'll
continue
to
build
on
the
capacity
of
the
office
of
housing,
stability
to
prevent
625
potential
evictions
and
place
another
250
housing,
insecure
households
into
permanent
housing.
We
will
be
aided
in
achieving
these
goals
through
increased
funding
in
the
proposed
budget
for
a
number
of
housing
stabilization
services,
including
case
management
support.
B
This
budget
provides
another
money
for
another
staff
person,
which
is
so
badly
needed,
flexible
financial
assistance
for
renters
and
housing
crisis
to
preserve
their
tendencies
or
move
them
into
new
housing,
legal
assistance
for
renters
facing
eviction
and
Housing,
and
district
court
and
emergency
housing
assistance
programs
which
supports
residents
displaced
by
fire,
condemnation
or
other
natural
disasters.
We
are
excited
that
do
it's
proposed.
Capital
budget
includes
an
investment
to
further
enhance
the
Metro
list
website.
B
Finally,
we
continue
to
accelerate
the
disposition
and
development
of
city-owned
property.
We
anticipate
selling
100
parcels
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and
have
another
300
City
parcels
in
active
disposition.
The
majority
of
these
land
sales
are
being
used
to
create
affordable
rental
and
homeownership
opportunities
in
fiscal
year.
19
we'll
continue
to
effectively
manage
city-owned
properties
and
we'll
sell
or
transfer
another
hundred
land
parcels
or
buildings
for
housing,
development
and
open
space
projects.
B
So
that's
what
we've
been
doing
in
fiscal
year
18
and
what
we
have
planned
for
in
fiscal
year,
19
to
wrap
up
I'd
like
to
outline
budget
request
before
you
today,
our
fiscal
year
operating
budget
request
totals
fourteen
point,
two
million
dollars,
which
represents
an
increase
of
seven
hundred
and
twenty
eight
thousand
or
5.4
million
over
fiscal
year
18.
This
increase
is
primarily
due
to
the
cost-of-living
adjustments
in
additional
funding
for
downpayment
assistance,
housing,
stabilization
initiatives
and
land
maintenance
services
to
help
better,
maintain
city-owned
property
until
we
can
dispose
of
it.
B
As
most
of
you
know,
D
and
DS
funding
comes
from
external
sources.
Our
operating
funds
support
administrative
activities
not
eligible
for
external
sources
and
fund
the
housing
20
special
appropriations,
which
support
our
work
with
at-risk
tenants,
the
homeless
and
various
middle-income
housing
programs.
We
work
extremely
hard
to
leverage
our
operating
funds
to
maximize
external
revenue.
B
The
proposed
budget
includes
an
estimated
78
million
in
external
funds
in
fiscal
year,
19
these
important
funds,
which
primarily
come
from
the
form
of
grants
from
the
US
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development,
allowed
dnt
to
carry
out
a
wide
range
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
programs
and
activities
throughout
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
Boston.
It's
important
to
note
that
the
grant
amounts
you
see
before
you
were
based
on
best
estimates
when
we
submitted
our
budget
earlier
this
year.
B
Just
last
month,
however,
Congress
passed
an
omnibus
spending
bill
that
increased
HUDs,
Community
Development
Block
Grant
by
10
percent
and
our
home
funding
by
more
than
40
percent.
How
does
not
release
the
exact
ward
amounts
of
each
community
for
each
community,
but
we
anticipate
that
our
funding
will
be
increased
by
similar
levels.
This
was
especially
welcome
news,
considering
the
President's
budget
call
for
the
elimination
of
CDBG
and
home.
The
president
is
already
proposing
an
elimination
of
both
of
these
critical
programs
in
fiscal
year.
B
Twenty,
but
we'll
continue
to
fight
with
our
partners
at
the
federal
level.
So
in
the
upcoming
weeks,
we'll
receive
our
exact
award
amounts
and
will
go
before
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
for
approval
to
accept
and
expand
fiscal
year,
19
grants.
Finally,
we
will
continue
to
leverage
other
city
revenue
sources,
including
Neighborhood,
Housing,
Trust
linkage,
inclusionary
development
program
and
see
a
Community
Preservation
Act
funding
to
support
our
Housing
Development
Goals.
B
This
year,
we've
worked
closely
with
director,
christine
Poth
and
the
community
Preservation
Committee
to
help
set
up
that
office
and
issue
their
first
funding
request
for
proposals.
We
anticipate
working
with
their
development
partners
to
seek
cpa
funding
in
fiscal
year,
19
for
housing,
production
and
preservation
products
projects
with
that.
I
thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
me.
I
know
it's
a
bit
long,
but
there's
a
lot
going
on
a
lot
to
cover
and
we
welcome
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
B
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
sure
that
you
know.
Inclusionary
development
is
a
product
of
its
money
that
we
extract
from
private
development
activities,
and
so
when
there's,
when
there
is
increased
residential
private
developments,
we
extract
more
units
and
money.
So
as
soon
as
we,
we
project
out
very
quick,
we're
tracking
IDP,
very
as
linkage
very
very
closely
these
days
we
know
what's
coming
in,
we
know
what
what
we
can
anticipate
receiving
and
we
have
transparent
requests
for
proposals
where
we're
solute.
You
know,
seeking
the
best
developments
to
fund
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Rick.
C
C
Think
so
far,
do
you
see
if
we've
collected
about
14
million
or
so,
but
what's
in
the
budget
before
you,
what
we
expect
to
commit,
and
that's
really,
these
are
big
construction
projects
and
there's
just
the
timing
of
when
the
these
projects
are
receiving
state
funding
or
they're
ready
to
move
forward
and
close
that
all
of
their
financing.
So
it's
been
actually
pretty
pretty
steady
over
the
years.
It's
not.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
got
a
huge
increase
in
revenue
next
year
that
we're
expecting
to
expend.
B
I
mean
we
really
use
IDP
for
the
creation
and
sometimes
preservation
of
affordable
housing
developments
there
in
family
developments
or
in
supportive
housing
developments
they're
very
much
used
in
our
elderly
developments.
We
do
because
IDP
the
market
rate
developers
are
supposed
to
create
new,
affordable
units.
We
do
like
to
use
the
majority
for
production
and
not
preservation.
A
B
Many
of
them
are
expiring
and
when
we
can
negotiate
with
a
landlord,
an
owner
to
increase,
to
increase
their
their
commitment
to
keep
the
you
keep
the
development
affordable.
That's
what
we
like
to
do
and
we
like
to
use
state
money
and
state
resources
whenever
we
can
to
do
that.
There
are
times,
however,
that
the
city
needs
to
put
money
in
to
help
create,
keep
a
development
affordable.
We
worked
on
a
very
high
profile
development.
Just
you
know
several
months
ago
in
the
fenway
that
we're
gonna
lose.
B
It
was
54
units,
I,
think,
and
so
we
did
put
millions
of
dollars
into
that
particular
development
that
there
was
city
money
to
keep
those
units
affordable.
There
was
a
lot
of
very
low-income
and
elderly
living
in
those
units,
so
we
do
like
to
use
state
resources
and
have
mass
housing
and
DHCD
do
refinances
and
work
with
developers,
but
sometimes
the
city
does
have
to
commit
its
own
funds
to
keep
them
to
keep
them
affordable,
and
we
are
spending
money
helping
the
VHA.
A
B
Though
it's
actually
working
very
well
now
the
BPD
enters
into
their
the
affordable
housing
agreements,
so
they
actually
sign
up
with
a
sign
the
developer
up
and
and
get
them
to
pledge
based
on
agreed-upon
formulas,
no
negotiation,
agreed-upon
formulas,
how
much
they
owe-
and
you
know
they
can
do
on-site
off-site
and
sometimes
they
can
pay
out
if
money's
involved,
that
those
agreements
go
to.
Treasury
Treasury
then
collects
from
the
developer,
and
then
we
put
out
RFPs
and
and
get
the
money
committed
by.
You
know
some
pretty
strict
underwriting.
A
D
D
You
know
when
the
city
has
those
funds?
How
do
you
determine
we
they'll
be
used?
Does
it
stay
in
that
neighborhood?
For
example,
the
booming
South
Boston
waterfront
a
lot
of
development
going
on
there?
It's
it's,
it's
a
walking,
it's
a
short
walk
to
Chinatown,
it's
a
short
walk,
obviously
to
South
Boston.
It's
any
of
that
money
being
used
to
house
people
in
those
two
neighborhoods.
That's.
B
B
There
are
times,
however,
when
we,
when
we
we're
going
to
start
collecting
money
from
a
particular
development,
and
we
realize
that
there's
not
a
companion,
affordable,
housing
project
going
on,
and
so
it
it's
hard
for
us
to
hold
back
money
for
years,
but
it
is
all
it
is
always
well,
especially
in
South
Boston.
If
we
can
find
a
an
affordable
housing
project,
we
really
do
try
to
get
that
project
money
just
to
a
good
examples.
B
West
Broadway
right
now
is
under
construction
and
that
is
getting
IDP
money
of
barely
a
good
size,
a
good
amount
of
money
and
the
elderly
project.
That's
going
to
happen
in
O'connor
way.
That
is
also
receiving
IDP
off-site
benefits.
So
we
we
do
that.
Every
time
we
can
I
do.
I'm
I
did
pull
out
some
of
the
numbers
by
neighborhood
and
South.
Boston
has
created
632
on
site
in
off-site
units,
meaning
the
developers
had
chosen
not
to
give
money,
but
instead
to
actually
create
the
units
so
they've.
D
D
B
B
We
do
have
a
small
amount
of
Vash
vouchers
left
that
we
have
not
been
able
to
use.
So
we
are
now
working
with
the
Brighton,
the
brighton,
brighton
marine
campus
and
going
to
take
those
Vash
vouchers
and
attach
them
to
a
new
project.
They're
working
there
and
they're
gonna
work
more
intently
with
homeless
veterans,
so
I
think
that
the
system
has
really
come
together
to
and
I
do
want
to
credit
Lyla,
Bernstein
and
Katie
Cahill,
who
are
here.
B
They
meet
every
other
week
every
week,
every
week
with
a
list
of
homeless,
vets
and
all
of
the
partners,
and
they
go
through
a
by
name
by
name
list
to
make
sure
that
all
the
vets
in
our
shelter
system
are
on
the
street
are
on
track
of
getting
housed.
It's
welcome
invite
you
to
stop
by
sometime.
It
really
is
it's.
It's
just
a
wonderful
activity
to
watch,
it's
very,
very
intentional
and
the
results
are
have
been
significant
and,
and
all
of
the
nonprofit's
in
the
city
have
really
come
together
to
solve
this
problem.
D
E
Thank
You
counselor,
CMO,
Thank,
You
Shane,
and
thank
you
chief
and
Ric
and
Donald
for
being
here,
and
thank
you
to
your
team
members
as
well
for
the
work
that
you
guys
do.
I
know
it's
not
easy.
Work
I
have
to
also
give
a
special
shout
out
to
Donald.
Also
a
d4
resident
he's
been
very
helpful
to
her
office
and
chief
just
quick,
some
quick
questions
on
the
IDP
and
the
linkage
assessments
and
the
money
that
comes
in
just
sort
of
it.
E
Also,
if
there
is
a
process
around
this,
if
it
I
don't
know,
if
there's
a
written
process
around
how
this
money
is
distributive,
so
a
copy
of
that
too
would
be
really
helpful
on
the
affordable
housing
piece.
I
know
in
last
year's
budget
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
need
to
do
more
in
the
senior
housing
space.
E
So,
where
are
you
this
fiscal
year
compared
to
last
year
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
frankly,
candid,
even
in
last
year's
fiscal
budget,
which
was
you
know
that
we
could
be
doing
a
lot
more
and
so
I'd
be
curious
to
see
where
we
are
compared
to
fiscal
year
18
and
if
we're
not
doing
what
we
would
like
to
do.
What's
the
limitation,
is
it
resources
or
is
it
something
else
yeah.
B
Sorry
I'll
get
you
I'll,
find
you
the
exact
numbers
we,
we
are
not
meeting
our
elderly
housing
goals
that
we
put
forth
in
housing,
Boston
2030,
but
I
feel
very
confident
that
the
numbers
that
we
put
forth
on
creating
affordable
elderly
housing
we're
catching
up.
As
I
mentioned
my
remarks,
we
are
now
moving
on
three
very
important.
B
Actually,
four
important
sites
and
three
out
of
those
four
are
city-owned
land.
So
we're
going
out
very
intentionally
and
saying:
we've
got
this
land
we
want
to
build
for
affordable
elderly
housing
and
the
response
in
the
communities
has
been
good.
I
think
we
need
to
find
more
opportunities.
It
seems
like
when
the
city
gets
very
intentional
about
it
and
says
we
want
to
develop
additional
senior
housing
and
we
want
to
do
it
here.
Then
developers
come
forward
and
respond
and
then
we
can
make
resources
available
great
it
I.
B
What
we
have
still
haven't
seen
and
is
developers
coming
forward
and
creating
a
for
naught
market
rate
housing
for
seniors
like
we
do
see
and
in
the
suburbs,
quite
frankly
with
wraparound
services
and
we're
asking
a
lot
of
developers.
Why
that's
the
case?
They
say
it's
very
expensive
to
build
in
Boston,
which
we
know.
B
They
also
say
that
the
seniors
moving
in
to
the
city
are
a
slightly
different
breed
and
they
don't
necessarily
want
to
move
into
elderly
market
rate
housing
they're
moving
into
elevator
buildings
that
are,
you,
know,
more
integrate
age,
integrated
that
it's
just
if
you're
moving
into
the
city
or
you've
you're
a
city
person,
you
don't
want
more
of
a
suburban
model,
so
we
do
need
to
rethink
that
goal
going
forward
and
that's
part
of
our
pulling
the
housing
advisory
together.
Soon.
E
Love
to
see
the
numbers
in
terms
of
the
elderly,
housing
and
the
2030
plan,
but
I
would
add.
We
hear
that
from
constituents,
particularly
in
say
Dorchester
and
in
parts
of
Matapan,
in
my
district
folks
who
want
to
downsize
because
they
have
these
large
homes
and
would
love
to
move
into
a
building,
but,
frankly,
a
building
that
is
intergenerational,
not
just
sort
of
senior
assisted,
living
and
I.
Think
councillor
Baker
talks
about
whether
its
building
on
top
of
a
library
or
something
else.
B
So
we're
looking
at
it
it's
not
in
this
year's
budget,
but
we
are
certainly
looking
at
it
very
closely.
You
know
it's
for
us.
It's
been
analyzing
the
trade-off
of
doing
the
voucher
program
with
the.
If
we
have
the
same
resources
doing
the
voucher
program,
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
continue
to
invest
in
in
development,
and
it's
been
our
calculation
that
we
get
additional
units
by
doing
development
over
20.
B
E
Something
I'm
sure
it
counts.
Ours
akin
would
bring
up,
but
I
fully
support.
His
request
and
I
was
just
at
a
conference
with
other
council
presidents,
including
the
gentleman
from
DC.
He
was
talking
about
the
success
of
that
program
and
finding
more
creative
tools,
and
now
that
we
have
CPA
thinking
about
how
a
piece
of
funding
from
CPA,
maybe
IDP
could
be
matched
up
to
do
a
voucher
program.
I
mean,
lastly,
just
the
McCormick's
that
came
up
and
conversations
related
to
bps,
possibly
transferring
land
to
D
and
D.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
I
testified.
Last
month
at
the
School
Committee
hearing
there
was
some
there's.
There
is
discussion
right
now
about
whether
that
field
next
to
the
McCormack
could
be
better
utilized.
Could
it
be
a
private
partner?
Not
you
know,
partnership,
so
that
site
can
be,
can
assist
more
children.
The
neighborhood
assist
the
school
children
more
assist
the
neighborhood
and
be
you
know,
just
be
more
activated.
The
administration
has
got
some
folks
that
are
kind
of
like
wow
that
we
could
do
something
with
this.
B
We
could
make
this
really
great
for
the
neighborhood,
so
the
conversation
was:
does
the
school
department
surplus
it
to
us?
Let
us
let
us
run
a
community
process
on
on
that
piece
of
land.
If
it
doesn't
meet
the
school
committee's
goals,
then
it
would.
The
land
would
revert
back
now
we're
talking
to
legal
about
whether
we
even
have
to
go
through
that.
Why
don't?
They
just
have
a
conversation
with
the
neighborhood
so
more
to
come
on
that
the
idea
is
not
to
do
housing
there.
It's
just
it's
more.
B
Oh
yes,
we've
where
the
re
receive
all
surplus
property,
so
we've
developed
old
schools
into
elderly
housing,
empty
fields,
parking
lots,
those
kinds
of
things
so
and
as
we
continue
to
dispose
of
our
own
property
that
that
critical
eye
is
going
to
become
more
important.
And
you
know
we
just
did
the.
E
B
With
public
assets,
RFI,
thank
you
where
the
housing
Innovation
Lab
has
looked,
has
put
out
a
bunch
of
public
assets,
libraries
and
schools,
and
parking
lots
just
for
the
community's
good
good
thinking
and
ideas
on
on
whether
we
can
combine
housing
and
other
uses
and
get
a
refurbished
public
asset,
so
that
work
is
underway
and
it's
online
now
too.
If
you
want
to
look
at
some
of
the
ideas,
it's
the
start
of
a
process
at
start
of
a
conversation,
but
other
cities
are
looking
at.
E
My
last
thought:
it's
just
one
thinking
you
and
your
team
again
and
looking
forward
to
reviewing
the
information.
There's
a
study,
that's
going
to
come
out
and
hasn't
yet
I,
think
by
National
League
of
Cities,
looking
at
the
largest
cities
in
this
in
in
the
country
from
96
to
2016,
in
terms
of
affordability
and
pricing
out
and
displacement,
and
there
was
sort
of
a
peak
preview
and
I.
Think
Boston
is
going
to
be
at
the
top
of
that
list,
which
isn't
necessarily
a
good
thing
and
I'm
waiting
to
sort
of
see
it.
E
It
was
just
sort
of
thrown
out
there
and
passing
to
me
because
I
was
from
Boston
and
so
I'm
waiting
to
see
just
sort
of
where
we
might
fall
with
respect
to
other
cities
and
looking
at
96
to
2016,
because
we're
doing
a
lot
of
innovative
and
creative
things.
But
we
always
want
to
know
whether
or
not
it's
having
a
dent
and
making
an
impact
before
we
lose.
You
know
our
neighborhoods
right
and
the
diversity
of
our
neighborhoods
as
they
currently
exist.
E
A
F
It's
a
nice
segue.
Thank
you,
madam
president,
Chief,
gentlemen.
Nice
to
see
you
thank
you
for
everything
that
you're
always
doing
every
day
to
address
housing
issues
in
the
city
of
Boston
I
will
lead
off
I.
Don't
think
it
has
to
be
asked
again,
but
I
do
want.
To
reiterate
my
support.
I
see
Michael
here
from
the
coalition
of
a
HUD
tenants
who
have
been
really
pushing
the
housing
voucher
program.
F
My
thing
council
president
allusion
to
what
the
success
of
the
program
in
DC,
which
is
you
know,
really
where
I
think
our
ideas
for
this
came
from
and
it
works
really
well
there
and
I
understand
that
we
have
limited
resources
and
they
are
always
limited
and
I
think
with
the
mess
in
Washington.
They
may
be
even
further
constrained,
but
the
same
time
the
need
for
permanent,
stable
housing
only
gets
greater.
F
So
I
would
just
encourage
and
reiterate
my
request
that
we
do
put
housing,
voucher
program,
city
funded
in
the
budget
and
beyond
that
I
have
a
couple
quick
questions:
I
councilor,
Baker
and
I
filed
last
year.
We
refile
this
year
a
bill
around
notification
for
evictions.
You
know
I
think
it
was
one
called
a
companion,
but
it
was
related
to
the
Jim
Brooks
bill
and
it
was
an
ordinance
because
obviously,
the
Jim
Brooks
bill
up
at
the
Statehouse
sort
of
out
of
our
hands.
At
this
point
it
was
a
bill.
B
Asap
I've
been
a
little
bit
hesitant
on
the
ordinance
just
because
if
it's
in
the
ability
I
mean
I
know
how
we
enforce
it
and
anytime
something's
put
in
place
the
the
the
population
and
citizens
think
that
you
should
be
able
to
enforce
and
I
just
don't
know
what
the
enforcement
mechanism
is
here
so
I.
That's
my
only
concern,
councilor
and
I
think
you
know.
We've
talked
about
that.
How.
F
Do
you
feel
right
now
about
the
setup
for
whether
it's
housing,
stability
or
your
department
generally
to
intervene?
I
know
you
know,
there's
no,
real-time
notification,
at
least
from
landlords
I'm.
It's
often
we
rely
on
neighborhood
groups,
individuals
to
let
us
either
our
individual
offices
or
you
or
the
mayor's
hotline,
know
about
this.
How
do
you
feel
that
the
current
response
is
to
folks
who
are
being
evicted,
and
you
know
I
think
typically,
once
they?
F
B
Know,
there's
too
many
there's
still
too
many
evictions
and
there's
still
too
many
landlords
asking
tends
to
leave.
I
mean
I
just
have
to
express
my
frustration
that
were
a
great
city
and
we
don't
need
to
be
doing
this
to
folks.
But
okay,
so
I
think
when
we
get
the
call,
we've
got
some
very
skilled
personnel
done
that
are
answering
the
questions.
They
know
how
to
coach
people
on
their
rights.
B
The
calls
have
to
come
in
to
us
and
that's
why
Jim
Brooks
was
gonna,
be
so
helpful
because
we
were
going
to
get
that
information
and
it
once
that
once
landlords
knew
they
couldn't
have
victim
til
they
did
that
they
would
not
be
able
to
go
through
a
fiction
process
until
they
filed
that
I
think
it
was
gonna,
be
a
very
powerful
tool,
so
I
think
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
with
with,
but
folks
have
to
know
of
us.
The
word
is
getting
out.
F
Look
forward
to
working
with
with
councilor
Baker
and
it's
and
counselor
Flaherty's
committee
on
government
operations
and
obviously
you
and
your
team
to
see
what
we
can
do
in
the
interim,
without
state
action
and
my
final
one.
Mr.
chairman,
we
have
I've
been
working
and
we've
had
a
hearing
here
with
Fenway
health
and
the
Fenway
Institute
around
an
LGBTQ,
friendly,
senior
housing
and
I
know
they
were
looking
at
taking
or
transferring
some
city-owned
land
potential
projects,
not
in
my
district.
F
B
Oh,
we
love
this
project.
We've
met
with
them
several
times,
we're
we're
too
enthusiastic
about
it.
We
just
they
just
have
to
find
a
site.
They
are
looking
at
some
city
properties
that
are
not
having
been
surplus,
yet
we're
giving
them
our
land
list
to
see
if
there's
something
there,
that
would
work
for
them
and
we're
also
encouraging
them
to
actually
just
buy
a
piece
of
land
and
we
could
help
them
with
the
acquisition.
So
it's
a
great
great
project.
We
want
to
do
it.
They
just
need
to
land
on
a
location,
great.
A
G
Good
morning,
everybody
and
that's
a
good
Segway
for
me,
councillors
Aiken.
That
project
with
the
lbgtq
community
is
looking
at
the
Rogers,
School
and
I
park.
I
would
love
for
them
to
get
that
building
or
somebody
to
get
that
building
when
that
building
was
when
that
school
was
closed
four
years
ago,
I
will
be
very
honest.
We
have
the
only
phone
calls
that
I
received
was
from
the
local
businesses
saying,
please
don't
open
another
school
middle
school
stuff,
as
you
know,
and
when
the
doors
let
out
the
businesses
were
affected
negatively.
G
When
kids
came
out
and
it's
right
wait.
If
you
know
where
the
building
is
I
know,
you
do
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood,
and
this
would
be
perfect
to
different
the
neighborhood.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
layup
Jose
come
a
lot
of
the
housing.
Questions
have
been
answered.
The
one
question
that
I
still
have
issue
with
is
so
we're
building
twenty
six
hundred
and
fifty
new
units,
which
is
unbelievable,
and
then
we
say
low,
moderate
and
middle
in
class
income.
What
is
that?
G
B
B
Bmi
debate
continues
and
rages,
but
so
you
know
it's
for
a
household
of
three:
it's
making
less
than
fifty
thousand
middle
income
middle
income,
deed
restriction,
restricted,
is
really
for
families
making
seventy
percent
or
below-
and
you
know
that's
you
know
in
the
60s,
depending
on
the
family
size,
maybe
up
to
70,
and
then
we
do
look
at
new,
it's
a
little
controversial,
but
we
do
look
at
the
market
rate
units
coming
online
and
we
say:
okay
is
any
of
this.
You
know
what
what
is
non-luxury,
what?
B
Where
can
middle-income
families
and
individuals
making
about
125,000?
Where
can
they
live?
Is
any
of
this
affordable
to
them
and
we
count
those
numbers
as
well.
So
yes,
every
every
unit
that
we
count
has
an
income
band
associated
with.
It
may
be
glad
to
get
you
those
details.
You
know
with
the
income
bands,
see.
G
H
G
Like,
ultimately,
at
the
end-
and
you
know,
we
Josh
had
talked
about
the
the
voucher
program
and
I-
think
something
like
about
your
program
has
a
possibility
of
working.
My
thought
in
council,
co-moh
and
I
have
had
this
conversation.
Many
times
is
that,
instead
of
helping
out
with
a
voucher
for
rentals
to
help
out
for
home
ownership,
a
lot
of
the
developments
that
are
coming
into
specifically
in
the
repo
section
I've
asked
those
developers
to
start
looking
at.
G
You
know
condos
or
ownership
I
think
when
the
skin
in
the
game,
it
tends
to
be
a
better
development,
a
better
project
for
everybody
involved,
whether
there's
low,
moderate,
middle
or
even
luxury.
At
the
tail
end,
and
when
that
spectrum
is
covered,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
success
and
I
always
go
back
to
the
beach
street
development
in
in
Rosendale.
That
used
to
be
a
very
tough,
tough
BHA.
G
It
really
was-
and
this
is
going
way
back-
I
mean
honestly
when
I
was
with
the
neighbourhood
coordinator
for
race,
Lynne
I
used
to
go
to
those
meetings
and
there
wasn't
a
single
piece
of
grass
and
the
entire
development.
Only
the
grass
that
grew
up
between
the
cracks
and
we
found
out
the
reason.
Why
is
because
there
was
arsenic
in
the
ground
and
the
best
way
to
get
rid
of
arsenic
is
that
cover
it
not
get
rid
of
it,
and
then
we
had
the
hope
6
grant.
G
Now
the
development
is
completely
changed
and
when
I
go
to
the
the
bi-monthly
neighborhood
meetings
and
we
give
the
six
month
police
report
the
the
9-1-1
calls
from
the
development
a
minuscule.
You
know
the
last
time
we
went
there,
there
was
we
went
to
the
April
one
I
think
there
was
six
calls
in
the
new
year.
Three
were
fanatical
two
or
four
domestic,
and
one
was
for
loud
music
I
mean
this.
Is
these
are
numbers
that
reflect
you
know
a
high-end
condo
unit
in
Duxbury,
never
mind
Roz,
Neil,
so
I!
G
Think
if
you,
if
we
build
homeownership
and
people
who
have
possession
it's
obviously
a
better
place
and
then
my
my
last
thing
would
be
to
Donald.
Donald
does
a
great
job
with
all
of
the
vacant
lots
and
the
fences
and
all
that
stuff
and
I
just
as
spring,
is
hopefully
about
the
spring
and
sprung.
Hopefully
we
can
stay
on
top
of
those,
because
I
think
there's
nothing
worse
than
ISD
going
out
and
finding
people
for
a
an
uncapped
lot.
Yet
our
Lots,
our
unkept
as
well
and
Donald's,
done
a
really
nice
job.
G
G
I
You,
mr.
chair
good
morning,
chief
Dylan
and
Richard,
and
you
today
thanks
for
coming
out
Sheila,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
in
first
I
heard
of
it
was
a
just
McCormick
school
I
guess
with
interest
of
surplus
property,
can
we
talk
about
that
a
little
bit?
That's
it!
So
so
we
look
to
be
doing
a
direct
designation
or
something
like
that
here.
B
No
I
I,
don't
that
we
haven't
made
a
decision.
I
think
we
just
went
to
the
school
to
talk
about
it,
I
think
it's
just
to
talk
to
the
neighbor.
We
were
just
going
to
get
the
green
light
to
talk
to
the
neighborhood
talk
to
the
schools,
along
with
the
school
department
about
how
to
activate
that
site.
It's
just
it's!
It's
a
ball
field,
but
underutilized
very,
very
large
in
an
area
where
there's
lots
of
neighborhood
children
and
a
lot
of
school
children
and
I
think
the
I
thinking
is.
I
Because
I
mean
I,
question
and
I
know
it's
a
different,
a
different
hearing
but
I
question:
if
we're
gonna
continue
when
a
vet
to
invest
in
those
schools
down
there
I
mean
so
I
would
want
to
be
kept
up
to
speed
on
what's
happening
with
that.
With
that
that
discussion
and
and
seeing
his
one
on
the
topic
directed
direct
disposition,
it
has
the
city
ever
done
that
don't
direct
designations
for
city
surplus,
no.
B
We
can't
we
can
do
direct
designation
if
the
vet
of
the
value
of
the
property
is
less
than
25
thousand
25
about
18
story.
I
have
to
look
at
the
law,
it's
a
state
law,
but
if
it
has
nominal
value
we
can
make
direct
designations,
but
even
then
we
typically
don't
we
put
out
everything
for
you
know
competitive
bid
and
proposals.
I
Okay,
surely
you
had
talked
about
housing
I
think
it
was
for
elderly
projects.
Where
are
those
four
projects?
I
know
the
one
down
in
O'connor
Way,
which
is
seems
like,
will
be
a
win
for
us
with
the
with
the
money
to
going
directly
from
development
down
on
the
waterfront
to
help
build
out.
Where
are
the
other
three?
We.
B
Have
one
hopefully
it'll
get
funded
from
the
state
Ronald
Street,
it's
an
old
school
site
actually,
but
just
land
in
four
corners.
You
mentioned
O'connor
way.
We
have
we're
working
with
an
owner
of
a
building
in
the
north
end
north
margin,
Street
we're
working
with
the
community
on
River
Street
right.
B
They've
come
for
we're
saying
we
want
our
building.
We
don't
need
this
building.
We
want
to
be
a
good
asset
for
the
community,
we're
working
with
them
now
it
wouldn't
be
large,
but
and
we're
also
putting
having
some
community
conversations
on
a
site
on
River
Street,
okay
in
lower
Mills,
lower
Mills
kind
of
Matapan
line
there
to
see
if
we,
if
the
community
would
accept
elderly
housing
there.
So
we're
we're
every
time
we
get
a
look
at
a
piece
of
part
land.
I
B
I
B
I
I
B
H
B
Other
cities,
other
large
cities
that
are
grappling
with
homeless
problems
much
larger
than
ours,
have
larger
developments.
You
know
hundred
plus
units
for
homeless
individuals
with
wraparound
support
services
because
to
have
these
small
scattered
sites.
Do
these
these
these
developments
they're
very
inefficient
and
they're
very
costly
and
I
think
entities
like
pine
tree
or
for
having
a
hard
time
running
them.
So
these
would
be
beautiful
developments,
but
with
a
lot
of
services,
but
they'd
have
some
scale
to
them
and
that's
what
we
want
to
use
the
money.
I
J
Sashiman
good
morning,
chief
and
team
want
to
pick
up
work.
Council
Zakim
was
with
respect
to
the
data
collection
piece,
so
we
still
have
some
work
to
do
on
that,
and
we
just
want
to
renew
my
request
to
make
sure
we
have
the
office
of
housing.
Stability,
I,
think
that
was
created
by
executive
order.
One
would
argue
that
that
should
be
creative,
legislatively
through
the
partnership
between
the
mayor's
office
on
the
council,
to
give
it
I,
guess
those
codifying
legislative,
empowering
powers
that
allow
them
to
sort
of
effectuate,
particularly
round
fees
and
fines.
J
J
Sachin,
thank
you
with
respect
to
the
IDP
stuff
you
had
mentioned,
there's
632
units
on
site
housing
in
South
Boston
out
of
how
many
citywide
and
out
of
over
how
many
years,
that's
obviously
not
in
one
calendar
year,
I
know
that,
for
example,
like
the
O'connell
project
you
had
mentioned,
we've
been
probably
talking
about
that
in
elf,
oh
yeah,
five
years,
four
or
five
years
ago,
and
it's
still
not
open.
So
these
things
take
time
right,
I,.
B
Believe
these
are
units
that
actually
exists,
so
O'connor
wouldn't
be
in
in
that
count.
So
when
I
we
look
at
on-site
or
units
that
were
created
either
on-site
or
off-site
by
that
by
a
developer,
not
money.
There
are
3,000
units
in
total,
so
632
of
those
3,000
are
located
in
south
basta,
which
is
a
which
is
a
goodly
percentage.
B
J
I
think
I
think
I
want
to
say
we
started
talking
about
this
five
years
ago
and
there's
still
not
a
senior
in
that
residence
yet
there.
So
what
is
it
that
we
can
do
if
we're
looking
at
ourself
of
where
a
CEO
saying
how
do
we
manage
this
better?
How
do
we
streamline
this?
But
how
do
we
become
more
efficient?
J
You
know,
instead
of
having
a
viewed,
it's
sort
of
a
bureaucratic
nightmare,
which
is
why
I
think
people
would
tend
to
shy
away
from
doing
business
with
the
sod
I'd
love
to
do
it.
But
you
know
what
it's
just
it's
so
odd.
You
wish
it's
so
tasse,
yeah
I
did
the
the
pages,
the
books
of
all
you
had
I'm,
just
gonna
do
this:
how
do
we
change
that?
So
people
say
you
know
what
I
want
to
do
with
my
affordable
contribution.
I'm
gonna
call
D&D
and
I'm
gonna
get
a
unit
online
ASAP.
J
B
You
know
I
share
your
frustration.
Affordable
housing
production
takes
too
long
we're
either
waiting.
Our
projects
are
waiting
at
the
state
waiting
for
state
resources
that
sometimes
take
two
or
three
years
to
line
up.
So
that's
that
is
something
I
find
very
frustrating
with
O'connor
way.
The
project
was
getting
offsite
contributions
from
to
seaport
developments
that
were
stalled
and
that's
the
reason
that
O'conner
way
took
a
long
time.
Sometimes
if
a
developer
has
got
all
their
approvals
and
they're
just
looking
to
land
the
units,
it
can
happen
within
six
seven.
B
Eight
months
this
particular
one
was
tied
to
a
couple
of
developments.
You
probably
know
that
had
lawsuits
etc
and
because
the
market
rate
development
was
held
up,
the
affordable
was
held
up.
We
probably
should
have
talked
about
or
thought
about
swapping
out
for
another,
but
I
think
the
the
relationships-
and
you
know
the
understandings
had
been
made
so
but
I
share
your
frustration,
counsel.
J
Good
CPA,
obviously
thanks
for
your
participation,
your
partnership
this
year.
Thank
you
I
like
to
always
add
that,
had
the
previous
administration
allowed
you
to
to
participate,
we
would
have
been
able
to
benefit
of
Fisheries
of
tens
of
millions
of
additional
dollars.
That
said,
moving
forward
appreciate
that
the
Walsh
administration
appreciated
the
value
in
in
the
CPA.
There
was
a
round
of
funding,
that's
going
on
in
May,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
jumped
on
to
that
one.
B
We
are
pushing.
We
would
never
let
parks
get
all
the
money
in
this
first
round,
so
we
are
pushing
smaller
developers
that
are
ready
to
go
because
I
think
the
cap
is
$500,000
per
project.
So
we
do
have
a
pipeline
of
projects
that
are
going
to
be
submitting
applications.
And
then
this
fall
we'll
be
looking
at
more
of
our
traditional,
probably
more
expensive
projects
to
go
in.
But
yes,
and
we're
going
to
utilize
every
bit
of
money
that
we
can
I'm.
J
Then
just
lastly,
we're
becoming
the
city
of
the
very
rich
in
the
very
poor.
What
is
DND
doing
about
the
middle
class
and
I'm
talking
about
that
college
graduate
just
starting
out
in
the
workforce,
strapped
with
some
student
debt,
and
you
know
paying
a
pretty
decent
rent
into
a
two
newlyweds
that
want
to
make
a
commitment
to
stay
in
the
city,
the
neighborhood
they
were
born
and
raised
in
chances
to
move
those
percentages.
To
get
that
demographic,
we
seem
to
do
a
great
job
with
the
luxury
condos.
J
We
seem
to
do
a
great
job
and
around
you
know
the
affordable
piece
for
the
low-income
and
for
homeless,
but
I'm
really
concerned
about
that
middle
sector
that
the
college
educated,
the
workforce.
The
brainpower
that's
going
to
take
the
city
to
the
to
the
next
level
in
there
being
priced
out
of
Boston
and
record
numbers,
I
I.
B
Couldn't
agree
with
you
more
and
we
are
very
focused
on
middle-income
production.
We
need
the
market
to
step
up
and
continue
to
produce
things
that
middle-income
households,
young
families
can
can
afford,
and
I
I
agree
with
folks
that
have
said
that
we
needed
more
affordable,
not
big,
a
affordable
but
more
market
rate,
affordable,
homeownership
product,
we're
funding.
Some
of
that,
but
I
think
the
market
needs
to
do
that
as
well.
B
That's
why
we
count
every
unit
because
we're
not
it
seems
like
when
you
look
downtown
that
we're
building
just
luxury
housing,
but
we're
not
we're
building
housing
across
the
spectrum,
but
I
think
I.
Think
we
need
to
ask
developers
every
time
they
come
to
you
or
me.
We
should
be
saying,
and
what
are
you
doing
for
the
middle-class
some
of
our
affordable
projects
that
we're
funding?
We
are
asking
developers
to
do
a
mix
of
incomes.
You
know,
do
the
low-income,
affordable,
but
also
have
a
band
for
middle-income.
That's
important.
This
budget
has
an
increased.
J
Asking
what
is
your
definition
of
like
and
I'm
just
forget
to
put
the
percentages
aside
like
the
150,
the
160
just
give
me
real
numbers,
so
you
know
young
person
starting
out
making
between
say
60
and
$80,000
college-educated,
again
strapped
with
some
student
debt
paying
a
decent
rent.
Now
they
have
any
shot
at
getting
anything
in
D&D
or
is
it
the
bacon
because
what's
happening
is
they're
making
just
a
little
too
much
money
to
qualify,
but
not
enough
money
to
afford
to
live
in
the
city
right
and
I?
Think
that's
the
demographic
in
those
percent.
J
B
B
And
the
B
PDAs
they're
in
IDP
units
that
they're
doing
on-site
are
very
much
in
that
sweet
spot
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
middle-income
young
college
graduates
couples
avail
themselves
of
the
BPD
a
lotteries
and
that
really
all
of
the
IDP
on
site
you
sar
are
sort
of
in
that
you
know
high
50
60
70
percent
am
ice,
so
I
really
think
that
a
lot
of
the
IDP
units
are
being
created
are
for
that
sort
of
the
the
demographic
that
you're
talking
about.
So
the
we
need
to
ask
the
market
to
do
more.
B
I
think
IDP
is
really
service
servicing
that
need
and
we're.
Looking
at
more
at
mixed
income
developments.
Every
chance
we
get
we've
heard
and
Dudley
most
recently
that
people
really
want
to
see
a
third,
a
third,
a
third.
You
know
they
really
want
to
see
that
middle
income
band
in
neighborhoods
as
we
put
out
RFPs
so
we're
gonna
continue
to
do
that.
Thank.
K
You
chairman
Thank
You,
chief
Dylan
for
being
here
I,
want
to
I'm
just
first
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
the
family,
lead
stability
project
and
a
lot
of
you.
Our
offices,
work
and
partnership
with
some
other
departments
around
family
homelessness,
in
particular,
and
for
including
me
in
that
work,
because
it
is
very
important
for
us
to
make
sure
as
a
city
that
we're
not
forgetting
about
family
homelessness,
as
we
focus
on
individual
homelessness.
K
K
B
We
have
gotten
approval
from
fair
housing
to
give
some
priority
and
I'm
gonna.
Get
you
a
better
answer
than
this.
I
know
it,
but
I
want
to
write
it
down
and
give
you
the
actual
policy
counselor.
But
if
a
neighborhood
is
diverse,
if
it
meets
fair,
housings
definition
of
being
diverse
enough,
then
we
can
give
priority
to
some
folks
from
the
neighborhood
that
would
be
getting
displaced,
it's
more
complicated
than
that.
That's
why
I
really
want
to
get
you
the
the
language.
B
We
are
working
with
our
fair
housing
department
here
in
the
state
right
now
on
what
I
think
would
be
a
very
good
policy
that
I,
don't
think,
has
any
fair
housing
gobbly
issues,
although
I'm
still
trying
to
work
at
the
state
about
four
months
later.
That
says
that
would
say
if,
if
we're
new,
you
affordable
units
are
coming
online
and
you
can
prove
that
you
are
at
risk
of
having
to
leave
your
home
in
Boston,
but
leave
your
home,
because
you
are
rent
burdened
that
you
could
access
those.
B
The
some
of
those
units
would
be
set
aside
and
you
would
have
preference
to
some
of
those
units.
So
it's
not
neighborhood
base,
but
it's
need-based,
which
I
think
is
also
an
interesting
concept.
Because
right
now
you
have
a
lottery
and
you
know
everybody
can
put
their
name
in,
which
is
fine
and
they
pick
out.
B
You
know
names
from
a
lottery
and
that's
a
very
fair
way
of
making
sure
that
everybody
has
equal
a
chance
of
getting
those
units,
but
I
think
sometimes,
if
you're,
family
and
you're
paying
fifty
sixty
percent
of
your
income
towards
rent
that
the
new
units
coming
online
should
serve
you
better.
So
I'm
really
working
hard
on
that
policy.
Great.
B
B
I
I
know
when
we
fund
we
have
a
70%
preference.
If
it's
just
land,
it's
a
preference,
it's
a
preference
right,
it's
not
a
like!
So
if
no
one
showed
up
in
the
lottery
that
was
from
Boston,
which
is
never
the
case,
then
we
we
would
have
to
defer
and
go
to
the
folks
that
did
show
up
usually
there's
more
Boston
residents
and
we
conserve
so
70%
and.
K
Then
we
had
a
hearing
just
over
a
year
ago
now
or
about
a
year
ago,
regarding
the
on
lining
the
process
for
these
lotteries
again
for
rental
or
for
ownership
and
I
understand
the
role
of
the
Metro
list.
But
because
housing
lotteries
come
from
different
places,
have
we
made
any
I
think
those
reference
to
a
common
app
being
used?
K
B
Yes,
so
I'm
gonna
get
you
a
more
like
complete
update,
but
I
know
that
we
have
working
with
the
BPD
and
working
with
do
it.
There
is
a
pre
app
now
that
is
universal,
that
everyone
is
using
and
I
think
they
see
that
as
the
logical
next
step,
and
there
are
money
in
the
capital
budget
Devon
right,
do
you
have
an
update,
okay,.
B
C
To
this
funding
in
the
capital
budget,
as
Sheila
mentioned
her
opening
remarks
to
update
the
Metro
list
to
take
us
to
the
next
phase.
It's
not
gonna
get
us
all
the
way
to
a
universal
application,
but
it's
kind
of
the
next
step
in
that
process.
So
we're
hoping
that
that
will
lay
the
groundwork
down
and
I
think
the
idea
is.
C
K
Then
my
last
question
and
I'll
wait
for
the
rest
of
them
for
round
two
with
the
when
we
met
with
assessing
and
I
think
over
the
the
budget
overview
process.
We
talked
about
our
dependence
on
property
tax
and
new
growth
is
less
than
it
was
last
year.
Do
we
have
a
projection
of
the
inclusionary
fund,
based
on
the
lesson
of
the
projection
for
new
growth?
You
have
a
projection.
I,
don't.
H
K
B
I
mean
we
are
getting
the
majority
of
our
resources
right
now
from
new
new
development.
I
will
say
that
it's
there's
no
major
cliff
because
IDP
and
linkage
pain
over
seven
years,
so
it
does.
It
does
help
I
mean,
even
though
we
want
the
money
like
immediately
to
spend
it
on
affordable
housing
projects
having
it
paid
in
over
seven
years,
does
help
equalize
year
to
year,
so
there's
not
a
drastic
falling
off
all.
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
on
a
positive
note,
I
want
to
say
congrats
for
the
incredible
amount
of
work
that
you
have
done
on
your
department
and
to
all
of
my
former
colleagues
I
love
and
miss
you
all
and
I
just
wanted
to
say.
A
part
of
that
Congrats
is
about
the
Metro
Ellis
that
is
still
going
out.
L
B
Have
I
didn't
bring
it
with
I,
didn't
bring
it
with
me,
but
we're
seeing
a
slightly
positive
trend,
so
I
glad
to
share
that
with
you
and
this.
But
what
we
have
noticed
is
that
now
we're
I
think
we're
shining
a
light
on
the
eviction
issue
right
and
I.
Think
that
is
very,
very
helpful
and
I.
Think
it's
interesting.
You
know
we
all
call
an
eviction.
I'm
Sheryl
you
do
too,
when
someone's
getting
evicted,
we
often
have
to
call
the
top
the
prêt
whatever,
and
the
response
is
better
I.
B
L
L
You
first
look
at
it.
It
shows
on
the
section
3
hiring
or
on
the
sections.
These
are
the
contracts
for
Boston
residents
and
looking
at
racial
diversity,
but
in
the
in
that
audit
it
showed,
for
example,
the
section
3
reporting
period
that
the
contracts
given
out
construction
contracts
awarded
that
it
was
while
D&D
had
reported
twenty
million
dollars,
that
that
number
was
overstated
by
nine
million
dollars
and
so
I
think,
there's
probably
a
deeper
in
the
woods
explanation.
B
C
Yes,
counselor,
so
that
the
section
through
report
is
an
annual
report
that
we
provide
to
HUD
for
all
of
our
federal
funded
projects.
We
put
funding
into
over
a
certain
dollar
value
and
it's
a
report
on
how
much
how
much
of
our
the
spending,
as
well
as
jobs,
created
for
low
and
moderate-income
Boston
residents,
that
finding
that
you're
talking
about
was
from
fiscal
year
2016.
That
said,
as
you
pointed
out,
that
we
had
over
reported
the
dollars
and
the
jobs
created,
the
auditors
provided
us
when
they
provided
the
finding.
C
We
looked
at
it
and
what
we
realized
was
that
we
had
provided
in
the
summer
summary
report
for
that,
for
that
year
did
not
correspond
or
did
not
align
with
the
backup
that
we
provided
and
that's
that's
what
accounted
for
the
discrepancy
that
they
found.
We.
We
acknowledge
that
the
Apple
mistake
was
made.
It
was
an
administrative
error.
It
was
a
confusion
around.
We
were
reporting
two
different
years
and
the
backup
just
didn't
correspond
to
the
summary
report.
Since
the
error
was
found,
we've
already
implemented
new
policies
and
procedures
so
we're
getting.
C
We
have
multiple
layers
of
reviewed
and
make
sure
that
the
calculations
are
correct
and
that
the
backup
corresponds
to
the
to
the
report
and
we've
actually
already
submitted
our
the
following
year's
report
to
HUD
they've
looked
at
it,
they've
reviewed
they
review
the
calculations
and
they've
said
everything
looks
fine,
so
we
think
we
have
a.
We
think
we
have
a
better
system
in
place
now
to
ensure
that
that
problem
doesn't
happen
again.
Excellent.
L
Thank
you
for
that
and
just
I
had
some
questions
for
four
REMS
and
I
had
noticed
that
in
the
the
department
has
a
target
for
FY
19
of
100,
building
or
hundred
parcels
of
bills,
eight
buildings
to
be
sold
or
transferred
and
I
was
just
curious
if
you
could
break
down
of
the
known
surplus
properties,
what
number
are
a
result
of
tax
foreclosures?
Well,.
C
L
And
so
just
just
on
the
foreclosure
and
the
process
in
holding
the
property,
when,
when
you
do
get
the
the
tax
foreclosure
and
ultimately,
a
foreclosure,
happens,
I'm
fully
aware
of
the
immense
amount
of
work
that
runs
especially
is
done
to
prevent
people
from
even
going
into
foreclosure
again.
Another
department
I
can
commend
on
the
amount
of
work
almost
down
to
social
work
level
that
you
do
to
try
and
keep
people
in
their
homes,
but
in
the
event
that
it
now
goes
into
tax
foreclosure
and
the
law
departments
in
that
and
that
procedure.
L
B
The
vast
majority
once
again
and
and
we
can
get
you
numbers-
we're
putting
out
the
the
land
either
surplus
or
tax
for
text
making
for
the
creation
of
a
for
dole
middle
income,
deed,
restricted,
housing,
urban
agriculture,
community
gardens.
There
is
occasionally
a
piece
of
property
that
we've
evaluated.
It
doesn't
lend
itself
to
any
of
the
above.
It's
got
a
lot
of
worth
and
we
will
sell
it,
for
you
know,
resources.
So
the
city,
you
know
the
city,
can
you
know,
make
revenue
those
are
rare,
especially
now
in
the
last
five
years
or
so.
B
N
B
Text
me
to
okay:
you
want
me
to
wrap
it
up
all
right
at
our
neighborhood
homes
initiative
that
Donal
mentioned.
We
are
really
trying
to
find
small
developers
and
contractors
in
the
private
market
that
are
working
with
local
contractors
to
build
the
new
homes
and
we've
been
very
successful
at
that.
It's
too
small
for
the
larger
nonprofits
right
and
so
in
plus.
We
want
to.
We
want
to
get
these
doesn't
say
men,
but
they
usually
are
men.
You
know
busy
and
and
participating
in
our
programs.
Okay,.
O
Thank
You
mr.
chair
good
afternoon,
chief
and
colleagues
Sheila.
It
has
been
truly
an
honor
working
with
you,
for
this
is
my
eighth
budget
season.
You've
been
at
all
of
them
and
really
appreciate
your
great
work.
I
also
think
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
your
team
is
doing
is
among
the
most
important
work,
that's
happening
and
among
the
largest
issues
we're
facing
as
a
city.
It's
amazing
to
think
you
know,
the
economy
has
never
been
stronger.
Real
estate
values
have
never
been
higher,
yet
at
the
same
time
we
are
seeing
people
displaced.
O
We
are
dealing
with
issues
around
displacement,
gentrification,
etc.
So
it's
it's
incredibly
important
and
difficult
work
so
appreciate
your
good
work.
I
have
six
questions.
I
want
to
try
to
get
through
all
of
them.
So
if
I
cut
you
off
I
apologize
for
being
rude
ahead
of
time.
Operating
budget
is
up
slightly
about
five
and
a
half
percent
less
than
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
or
there
abouts
contracted
services
is
up
about
143
thousand
dollars.
Can
you
briefly
talk
about
what
that
is?
Yeah
yeah.
C
So
that's
gonna
be
a
few
of
the
investments
that
Sheila
mentioned
in
her
opening
remarks
in
the
office
of
housing,
stability,
its
that
about
three
hundred.
Sixty-Five
thousand
of
that
is
going
for
the
office
of
housing,
stability
actually
for
legal
assistance
and
so
forth.
That
was
offset
by
a
reduction
that
we
received.
In
particular,
investment
that
we
got
in
the
current
year
was
a
one-time
investment
for
veterans,
homelessness,
a
grant
that
we
provided
to
the
New
England
Center,
and
so
that
was
taken
out
of
our
budget.
P
P
O
O
C
O
C
O
B
O
B
I,
well,
let
me
just
so:
there
is
about
5,000
units
are
deed
restriction,
but
2,000
units
are
low-income,
2,500
units
are
middle-income,
deed,
restricted,
those
are
IDP
units
mm-hm
and
then
about
another
5,000,
our
market
rate,
our
units
in
the
market
that
we
feel
are
affordable
to
the
middle
class.
So
if
you
add
those
up,
it's
about
40%,
yes,
I
wanted.
O
O
And
then
the
remainder
would
be
the
this
other
reigning.
60
percent
would
be
luxury,
that's
right.
Okay,
can
we
get
a
breakdown
by
neighborhood
of
new
developments?
Yes,
if
that's
okay,
great,
do
you
feei,
think
I
know
the
answer.
This
question
I
mean
you
just
answer
it,
but
do
you
feel
there
are
any
areas
of
Mayors
housing
goals
that
aren't
being
met?
Our.
B
O
In
and
the
other
thing
is,
you
do
have
a
number
of
seniors
who
you
know
have
houses
that
are
worth
four
five
ten
times
what
they
paid
for
it
want
to
stay
in
the
city
or
young
or
active,
would
definitely
downsize
to
a
nine
hundred
square
foot
apartment
or
condo
somewhere.
So
that's
that's
a
balance
we
have
to
strike.
Additionally,
as
we
talk
about
expiring
you
something
of
the
Forbes
building
in
Jamaica
Plain
Rockingham
Glen,
which
we've
worked
very
closely
and
West
Roxbury.
What
is
the
strategy
for
that?
O
B
Forbes
building
that
you
mentioned
is
a
13a
property,
and
so
that
I've
mentioned
the
tents
will
have
no
protections.
If
it
goes
market
the
owner,
we're
engaged
with
the
owner,
we
just
reached
out
again
we're
working
with
the
state
on
these.
To
put,
you
know,
really
put
some
resources
into
getting
to
entice
the
owners
to
stay.
So
it's
it's.
You
know
mercantil
downtown
its
forbes,
its
newcastle
saranac
its
some
of
these
13:8
developments
that
keep
us
up
at
night,
but
they
were
working
very
very
hard
on.
O
Glad
to
hear
it
I
my
time
is
up.
I'm
gonna
stick
around
for
the
next
round,
and
I
did
want
to,
though,
also
extend
my
voice
and
support
the
efforts
from
councillors
a
come
to
a
pilot
about
your
program
with
this
year's
budget.
I
think
it
makes
sense
and
I
think
you
could
really
address.
One
of
the
largest
issues
were
facing
Thank
You.
Mr.
chairman,
thank.
A
You
I
guess:
I'm
gonna
have
to
go
on
record
in
support
of
downpayment
assistance
more
than
vouchers.
If
we're
gonna
tackle
the
wealth
gap
in
this
city,
we
need
to
get
people
out
of
rentals
and
it's
a
home
ownership.
So
I
want
to
be
on
record,
for
that,
is
it
fair
to
say
the
IDP
fund?
You
haven't
appropriated
everything
out
as
it
comes
in,
so
this
is
a
balance
in
a
in
a
fund.
B
C
I
mean
so
we
up
till
now,
we've
collected
about
eighty
eight
million
dollars,
including
the
21
million
that
the
BPD
a
the
VRA
transferred
to
us.
We
are,
you
know
we
have
a
projection
that
we're
going
to
collect
between
now
and
the
end
of
next
year.
I
fail
to
answer
counselor
sabe
Jorge's
question
earlier,
but
we
do
expect
to
collect
about
another
16
million
through
the
end
of
next
year.
We
have
the
vast
majority
of
that
has
been
awarded
or
committed
to
projects
we
have.
C
We
are
expecting
and
intending
to
dedicate
some
revenue
to
continue
our
acquisition
opportunity
program
and
our
neighborhood
Homes
initiative
out
of
that
funding.
So
if
you
add
all
that
together,
they
could
the
the
awards
and
the
commitments
that
we've
already
made,
what
we're
planning
to
commit
in
projects
for
next
year.
We
are
more
or
less
fully
committed
through
next
fiscal
year.
Now
we
will
do
a
funding
round
in
the
fall
for
down
the
road.
C
A
C
So
the
the
biggest
chunks
of
that
are
actually
for
our
home
home
owner
I'm.
Sorry,
oh
yeah,
homeowner,
home
repair,
program,
yeah,
so
three
and
a
half
million
we
have
a
home
work
helps
program.
We
have
our
senior
save
program,
downpayment
assistance,
as
you
mentioned,
the
other
biggest
piece
of
that
is
for
housing
development.
So
the
the
mayor
put
a
line
item
for
senior
housing
in
that
appropriation
a
few
years
ago,
and
that's
that's.
C
We've
retained
that
that's
1.75
million
dollars
for
senior
housing
there's
also
a
million
dollars
for
just
general,
affordable
housing,
production
and
preservation.
Those
are
the
two
biggest
components
and
then
we
have
some
homelessness
programs,
like
our
rapid
rehousing
program.
$900,000,
that's
been
in
the
budget
for
the
past
two
years
and
again
is
back
in
the
budget
for
next
year
and
our
family
safety
net
program
too,
provide
emergency
housing
for
people
who
need
temporary,
temporary
housing
and.
A
To
your
point,
chief
dillon,
we
are
on
goal,
I
think
you
gave
us.
26
units
have
been
permitted
and
25,000
25,000
are
in
process,
so
that's
51
and
we're
in
2018
I
think
we're
well
ahead
of
the
goals
and
I'm
wondering
too
you
know
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
the
different
demographics
that
we're
maybe
falling
short
on.
Is
it
time
to
kind
of
re
reassess
and
relook
at
the
data
that
we
went
on
almost
five
years
ago
now
to
readjust
maybe
so.
B
That
analysis
is
ongoing
right
now,
we're
working
with
the
BPD,
a
we're
working
with
MAPC
we're
working
with
our
regional
partners,
I'm
looking
at
population
growth
and
demographic
changes
against
these
numbers
to
see.
If
we
need
to
make
any
changes-
and
we
always
said
that
we
would
look
at
this-
you
know
every
year,
but
we
because
of
the
plan
now
is
you
know
over
four
years
old.
We
are
looking
at
that
right
now
and
we
hope
to
have
some.
B
A
A
question
that
I've
been
thinking
about
for
a
while
and
have
never
had
a
chance
to
ask,
so
we
have
deed,
restricted
home
ownership
through
the
affordable
developments.
Then
we
have
do
we
do
we
have
a
program.
We
actually
try
to
target
those
specific
couples
or
individuals
who
can
maybe
qualify
for
market
rate.
Eventually,
do
we
work
with
them
to
get
them
out
of
that,
so
that
frees
up
those
units
for
more
cycling
in
and
out
so.
B
They
stay,
but
we're
always
we're
always
heartened
when
someone
says
you
know
this
is
this
has
served
me
well,
but
now
I
can
do
something
else,
and
you
know
we
do
see
a
significant
amount
of
turnover
from
people
selling
their
affordable,
homeownership
units
or
townhomes
or
singles
or
twos
so
I
they
are
getting
they're
getting
some
money
out
of
the
out
of
the
sale
and
they're,
hopefully
placing
that
into
buying
it.
You
know
a
market
rate
home
right,
so
I
think
I
think
the
system
does
work
and.
B
A
B
A
B
A
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Council
Asuma,
chief
Dylan.
Can
you
talk
about
MassPike
Development?
What's
the
latest
on
it?
How
is
the
communication
going
I
believe
it's
Trinity
Company
in
the
residence
I
just
don't
want
to
see
Trinity
being
able
to
push
these
residents
out
of
the
housing.
These
residents
have
been
here
for
a
long
time,
Trinity's,
making
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
off
the
backs
of
these
tenants
and
chinatown
should
be,
should
be
a
place
for
these
low
income
families
I.
B
Appreciate
your
concern
about
Mass
Pike
in
Chinatown,
I,
I
too
I'm
always
worried
about
Chinatown
and
and
its
stability
as
a
neighborhood
MassPike
Towers
is,
is
affordable,
will
remain
affordable
for
the
next
70
years.
I
think
you're,
referring
to
the
tents,
did
try
to
purchase
it.
The
building
from
Trinity
the
purchase
price
was
was
too
high,
so
they
weren't
able
to
execute
that
that
purchase,
but
we
feel
confident
that
they
will
be
safe
for
70
years.
B
D
You
and
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
to
my
earlier
question
about
funding.
That's
going
in
IDP
funding.
I
just
want
to
try
to
see
if
I
get
some
numbers,
the
numbers
that
are
in
a
certain
neighborhood.
Do
they
stay
in
that
neighborhood
or
do
they
go
throughout
the
city
or
what's
the
process
who
makes
those
decisions
and
historically,
how
has
that
been.
B
So
when
a
developer
makes
an
IDP
contribution
when
they're
paying
they're
meeting
their
obligation
by
by
writing
a
check,
if
you
will
that
money
eventually
is
Dedes
to
commit-
and
we
put
that
out
through
competitive
proposals,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I
very
much
like
and
support
when
we
can
keep
money
in
a
particular
neighborhood
of
where
it
was
generated,
and
we
work
hard
to
do
that.
It
isn't
always
possible.
There
isn't
a
sometimes
an
affordable
housing
match.
If
you
will
and
then
we
put,
it
goes
into
the
general
fund
and
anyone
can
apply
for
it.
D
D
So
that
was
frustrating
to
me.
That
happened
maybe
a
year
ago,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
these
companies,
if
they
do
make
a
donation
to
the
to
the
fund,
that
that
money
stays
in
that
neighborhood,
because
you're
building,
wealthy
the
building
of
luxury
condos
and
then,
if
you're,
pushing
the
unit's
outside
of
that
neighborhood.
You
just
build
in
luxury
condo
after
luxury
condo
in
the
middle-class
and
low-income
families
are
getting
squeezed.
B
The
vast
majority
of
developers
now
are
meeting
their
obligation
by
actually
developing
on
site
or
finding
an
off
site
within
a
half-mile
radius
location
to
do
their
own
Davout,
affordable
development.
So
the
units
are
being
being
built.
I,
don't
know
what
exactly
what
what
development
you're
referring
to
in
the
south
end,
but
I
can
certainly
research
it
for
you.
It
sounds
like
it
was
being
built
as
of
right.
Perhaps
it.
D
D
D
B
They
can
certainly
sell
it.
They
can
stay
for
as
long
once,
your
home
owner.
They
can
stay
for
as
long
as
they
want
they
they
if
they
are
going
to
sell,
they
notify
us,
because
we
have
a
mortgage
on
the
property
that
secures
their
deed
restriction
and
we
income
qualify
their
buyer
and
determine
how
much
money
they
can
receive
for
the
unit.
So
it's
it's
a
we.
We
monitor
these
very
very
closely
and.
B
B
Two
two
tests-
one:
they
can
only
roll
day
one.
They
can
only
receive
five
percent
appreciation
per
year.
So
that's
test
number
one
and
we
do
that
calculation
for
them.
The
second
is:
they
have
to
sell
it
to
the
same
income
band.
So
if
they
were
an
80%
ami
buyer,
so
then
they
have
to
sell
to
an
80%
ami
buyer.
So
they've
got
to
meet
both
tests.
D
B
We
want
people
to
make
a
small
profit
right.
We
want
them
to
get
some
equity
out,
so
they
can
send
their
kids
to
school
or
they
can
their
market
rate
unit
and
leave,
but
you're
right.
We
want
to
stay
affordable
and
it
does
because
we
have
a
mortgage
on
the
property
and
they
can't
get
more
big.
They
couldn't
sell
it
to
a
buyer
or
they
couldn't
sell
it
to
someone
who
needed
to
get
a
mortgage
without
a
title
company
saying
wait
a
minute,
there's
a
mortgage
here.
What
is
this?
B
So
we
really
do
they
can't
they
can't
sell
without
checking
in
with
us
and
then
we're
very,
very
careful
and
we
give
approvals.
And
then
we
place
a
new
mortgage
on
the
property
and
a
new
deed
restriction
reflecting
the
new
buyer.
So
it's
it's
very
well-run
I
can
check
whether
we
have
records
on
a
particular
unit
and
I'm
sure
we
do
and
who's
the
buyer
and
that
we've
income,
qualified
etc,
but
we're
very,
very
careful
about
it.
We
have
staff
people
to
do
nothing,
but
these
resales
know.
B
Q
B
Gonna
I
I'm,
looking
at
Chris
I
I,
want
to
I
want
to
look
it
up
exactly.
There
is
support
money
going
into
the
West
Broadway
development.
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
an
Old
Colony.
That's
what
I
want
to
check
it's
hard
to
keep.
You
know
thousands
of
these
properties
and
your
head,
but
I
will
look
into
that
for
you
and.
B
Broadway
is
a
smaller
development
that
the
South
Boston
NDC
is
doing
across
from
Broadway
development,
probably
between
C
and
D,
be
in
anyways.
It's
it's
down
lower
towards
West,
Broadway,
T,
stop
and
there's
about
16
or
17
units
of
new
rental
housing.
That's
going
up
right
now
on
city
land,
but
I.
Think
some
of
the
Seaport
money
is
going
into
that.
Okay,.
A
I
You
counsel,
Baker
Thank
You
mr.
Chia,
so
so
Sheila
back
to
the
the
TV
stricted
unit.
So
someone
pays
their
mortgage
25
year.
Mortgage
20,
whatever
the
mortgage
is,
is
what
could
that
be
a
loophole,
but
it's
still
it's
still
in
the
deed.
So
once
you
research
at
that
Registry
of
Deeds
it
pops
up
there.
B
Right
that
we
have
a
we,
so
there's
two
just
two
things:
so
if
we
put
money
if
we
create
affordable
rental
housing,
that
units
days
affordable
in
perpetuity
so
forever,
and
ever
we've
learned
our
lesson
through
some
of
these
expiring,
you
state
funded
projects.
We
never
want
to
lose
affordability
of
rental
housing.
Homeownership
were
allowed
by
law
to
go
up
to
50
years,
and
some
of
us
are
saying:
why
doesn't
that
go
to
perpetuity?
So
we
do
need.
I
B
I
And
what
do
we
have
in
place
so
I've
seen
one
definitely
another,
possibly
another
one
like
smaller,
because
the
BIA
runs
runs.
This
runs
the
affordable,
affordable
units
call
goes
through
the
Bri,
so
something
that
is
under
the
VRA
purview,
whether
it's
50,000
square
feet
or
25,000
square
feet
that
building
that's
smaller
than
that.
It's
only
going
to
zoning.
What
do
we
have
in
place
to
to
make
sure
that
those
buildings
that
are
over
10
units?
I
B
Q
I
B
Is
an
account
set
up
by
Pine
Street,
because
it's
easier
for
them
just
legally
to
accept
money,
that's
been
privately
raised
and
then
we're
going
to
work
with
Pine
Street
now
Pine
Street
is:
does
a
fine
job
developing
and
owning
housing
for
the
homeless,
yeah,
probably
better
than
anyone
else
in
the
city,
but
the
money
isn't
necessarily
theirs
and
they
know
that
we
just
need
to
create
the
units.
So
in
the
end
the
money
will
be
used
to
create
create
the
units.
But
whether
or
not
it's
Pine
Street
so.
I
B
B
Yeah
I
mean
I,
that's
my
experience
is
that
they
don't
mind
building
affordable
housing,
but
there
hasn't
been
a
stable
of
developers
interested
in
line
of
work.
It's
been
pretty
focused
with
the
nonprofits,
but
certainly
we
should
and
Pine
Street
often
teams
up
with
for-profit
and
nonprofit
developers
to
do
the
larger
developments
they're
doing
that
more
and
more
yeah.
I
So
so
the
nonprofit's
end,
so
how
long?
If
we
give,
if
we
give
a
nonprofit's
aid
or
Dorchester
Bay,
we
gave
them
the
up
by
optimist
corner
station
there
they
have
the
old
Sunbeam.
Was
it
something
they're
looking
to
do?
They
look
a
new
Lou,
not
Sunbeam.
Whatever
is
Humphrey
Street
down
off
a
Dudley?
Oh.
I
Thank
you.
So
do
we
have
anything
in
place
that
that
the
city
can
say
okay,
if
you're
not
developed
within
five
years
like
so,
if
we're
gonna
use,
just
the
CDC's
to
develop
and
with
and
we're
funneling
them,
then
properties.
Is
there
any
sort
of
benchmark
that
they
have
to
sit
today
like?
Can
they
sit
in
these
properties
for
20
years?
So
we
at
what
point?
Do
we
say?
Okay,
we're
gonna.
Take
that
back
now,
yep.
B
So
we
designate
developers
and
we
give
them
a
tentative
designation
and
then
it's
up
to
them
to
get
all
their
building
approvals
and
raise
all
of
their
money,
and
even
though
we
have
funding
in
let's
use
65
East
Cottage
as
an
example,
we
have
money
in
that
project.
They
have
to
go
to
the
state
and
rate
and
get
low-income
housing
tax
credits
they
have
to
raise.
The
lion's
share
of
that
and
I
can
mentioned
earlier.
B
It's
frustrating
it
takes
several
years
if
we
didn't
think
that
the
nonprofit
or
for-profit
was
doing
everything
that
they
needed
to
do
to
be
successful,
lining
up
there.
Other
resources
we'd
pull
that
designation
without
without
hesitation,
so
every
single
project
that
we
have
designated
developer,
we're
talking
to
them
at
least
once
a
month
to
know
exactly
what
they're
doing
to
get
their
financing
the
rounds.
The
state
are
slow.
I
am
hopeful
in
that
case
that
they'll
be
and.
B
B
J
You,
mr.
chairman,
chief,
just
touching
back
on
evictions,
where
are
most
of
the
evictions
taking
place
I
know
we
don't
have
sort
of
the
data
collection
piece
up
and
running,
but
I
can
assume
the
DND
sort
of
track
eternally
some
of
these
sure
so
where
most
of
the
evictions
taking
place
like
the
top
say
three
or
four
neighborhoods.
B
J
B
J
B
J
B
J
And
I
think
that's
important.
Only
for
the
simple
reason
is
that
it's
one
thing
for
someone
to
be
in
the
displacement
business
right,
which
is
sort
of
you
know
why
we
took
such
a
focus
on
the
Jim
Brooke
stabilization
and
why
we
want
the
data
collection.
So
if
there
is
someone
that's
doing
this
across
the
city,
that's
you
know,
buying
up
and
displacing.
We
need
to
find
out
who's
doing
it
and
where
they're
doing
it
in
and
deal
with
that
way
versus
someone's,
just
not
paying
their
rent
and
what's
the
homeowner
gonna
do
so
I.
J
J
So
if
we
get
seventy
percent,
if
the
evictions
that
happen
in
the
neighborhoods
and
that
seventy
percent
of
them
are
for
non-payment,
rent
I
think
it
begs
the
question
as
to
they
those
new
owner
situations
where
the
rent
has
been
jacked
up,
then
that's
a
displacement
say:
that's
a
that's
purposeful
in
that
data
is
very
important
and
who's
doing
it.
We
need
to
know
who's
doing
it
versus
you
know.
It's
a
long-standing
owner
that
had
to
make
some
repairs
on
the
profit
him
had
to
put
in
a
new
roof
had
to
put
in
new
windows.
J
How
to
do
this?
How
to
do
that
and
there's
other
words
had
I
got
to
go
up
a
little
bit
in
the
rent
which
is
kind
of
how
it
works,
and
then
you
have
a
non-payment
situation.
I
I
would
be
treating
those
like
two
separate
things.
We
should
be
going
after
the
displacement
and
attacking
those
that
are
gang
and
that
are
purposefully
doing
it
versus
that
poor
soul.
J
That's
you
know:
house
rich
cash,
poor,
making
the
necessary
repairs
on
their
home
on
their
investment
had
to
go
up
a
little
bit,
and
then
you
got
a
deadbeat
situation
where
they're
not
paying
the
rent
or
can't
pay
the
rent.
That's
a
total
different
situation,
but
if
that's
all
lumped
into
the
70%
I
think
that
needs
to
kind
of
be
peeled
back.
So
we
have
factual
data
as
to
again
who's
doing
the
displacement
where
it's
taking
place
on
how
we're
going
to
attack
that
problem
as
opposed
to
sort
of
broad
brushing
in
and
I
think.
J
Unfortunately,
in
this
debate
it
gets
broad
brush
and
you
get
the
council
versus
the
administration
versus
D&D
versus
the
advocates
versus
the
homeowners
versus
a
small
property
owners.
We
get
into
this
big
quagmire
every
year
every
other
year,
but
no
one
ever
really
has
that
data.
But
if
we
had
the
data,
then
there'd
be
less
finger-pointing
and
more
creative
solution.
Creating
that's
that's
my
old
pining
on
it.
But
I
really
would
like
to
see
the
difference
between
I.
B
Agree:
I
think
that
I
think
that
distinction
is
very
important.
15
percent
of
this
last
data
set
were
for
no-fault.
I
will
go
back
and
look
at
the
calls
that
we
get.
Maybe
there's
there's
a
data
match
there.
I
agree.
There
are
some
people
that
just
need
to
pay
the
rent
and
there
the
rent
is
something
they
can
afford,
but
they're
not
budgeting
properly
too.
Many
of
the
calls
we're
getting
these
days,
though,
are
folks
that
new
owners
have
bought
buildings
and
are
jacking
a
brand
or
people
that
are
just.
B
You
know
that
are
gouging
right.
I
was
talking
to
my
colleague,
Emily
Shay
and
I.
Don't
think
she's
been
here
yet,
but
she
will
be
and
she's
working
with
nine
hundred
elderly
cases,
housing
cases
and
that
just
just
made
my
blood
boil.
You
know
that
anyone
would
be
distressing
our
you
know:
elderly
people
and
they
and.
J
In
the
jacking
up
in
the
gouging
that
boils
mine,
I
just
want
make
sure
that
people
aren't
sort
of
jumping
onto
that
wave
because
you
touched
on
the
calls
the
3-1-1
responses.
Why
would
one?
Why
would
give
me
give
me
a
snapshot
of
calls
to
300
DND
using
the
three
ones?
Potholes-
and
you
know,
sidewalk
street.
J
B
B
They
have
a
rental
issue
and
they
need
to
be
connected
with
the
office
of
housing,
stability,
they're,
very
interested
in
lotteries
and
now
I
think
we
can,
you
know,
refer
them
to
metro
list
and
and
rest
assured
that
they're
getting
good
information,
I'm,
looking
staff
seeing
you
yeah
senior
senior
of
meet,
they
you
know
want
to
buy
a
home.
They
want
about
the
classes.
A
lot
of
calls
was
senior
home
repair
which
we're
we're
pretty
recent.
We
are
very
responsive
and
we're
helping
lots
of
seniors
these
days
right.
J
And
then
it's
listed
here,
so
you
have
a
95
percent
satisfaction
rate
which
90
for
me
95
is
an
a
right,
no
one's
perfect,
but
clearly
some
approvement
would
that
five
percent
that
would
not
satisfy
was
that
because
they
didn't
win
the
lottery
because
they
called
and
complained
and
didn't
get
a
free
turn
phone
call
like
what?
What
would
you
put.
N
This
year's
we
really
wanted
to
to
find
those
touch
points
with
our
constituency.
So
what
we
did
on
a
property
management
side
was
we
contacted
right
after
the
3-1
complaint?
We
wanted
to
make
an
initial
contact,
introducing
our
department
to
that
constituent,
but
also
going
through
our
protocol
and
process
of
addressing
the
issue,
and
so,
if
it
was
going
to
take
an
extended
period
of
time,
say
if
it
was
tree
service
or
something
for
that
offense
effect
or
fence
repair.
N
We
wanted
them
to
know
that
and
to
understand
that,
but
it
also
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
other
services
within
a
department.
So
we
we
took
those
opportunities.
It
took
sort
of
maximize
the
the
outcomes,
but
what
we're
doing
as
they're
sort
of
that
the
end
of
the
processes
were
also
having
our
constituents
take
surveys
which
was
something
very
new
and
so
for
us
getting
to
a
hundred
percent.
That's
a
goal
and
and
and
and
I
think,
as
long
as
we
continue
to
work
towards
that.
N
J
B
J
J
Then
I
would
suggest,
as
the
chief
and
my
recommendation
is,
that
we
do
all
city
properties
that
should
be
all
on-site
lotteries.
That
obviously
gives
people
that
are
in
the
displaced
community
the
best
chance
of
having
success
at
that
lottery.
All
due
respect
to
folks
that
hail
from
suburban
communities.
I
know
we
touched
off
this
hearing
about
suburban
seniors
wanting
to
move
back
into
my
Austin
Dover,
and
they
were
getting
a
little
stuffy.
They
don't
like
the
accommodation
they
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
J
They
can
call
it
Dover
City
Council
and
deal
with
it
out
there,
but
we
shouldn't
be
making
any
special
accommodations
for
suburban
seniors
when
we're
dealing
with
our
own
seniors.
Here
they
can
deal
with
their
their
local
electives,
but
but
I
think
that
should
be
a
requirement
from
the
city
of
the
DND
Department.
J
K
You
and
thank
you
for
your
persistence
here
today,
so
you
know
a
long
morning
already,
so
my
questions
are
now
are
about
and
I
meant
to
start
here,
but
it
worked
out,
starting
with
other
questions
earlier
about
the
numbers
of
homeless
individuals
that
we're
supporting
across
the
city
and
I.
Think
in
your
opening
presentation,
you
mentioned
some
of
the
targeted
numbers
for
housing,
both
what
we
projected
for
fiscal
year
18
and
what
we're
projecting
or
or
aiming
for
in
fiscal
year
15.
Could
you
review
some
of
those
numbers.
B
B
So
what
I
mentioned
that,
since
we've
put
our
homeless
plan
together
for
homeless
individuals,
we
have
housed
over
900
homeless
vets
and
over
480
chronically
homeless
individuals,
and
so
that
this
year
we
hope
to
house
another
200
chronically
homeless.
That
means
that
they've
been
homeless
for
over
a
year
with
a
with
a
disability
and
we
hope
to
house
another
200
homeless
veterans.
So.
K
K
You'll
find
it
and
then
as
you're
looking
for
them,
I'm
also
interesting,
so
I
know
that
our
shelter
data
shows
that
just
over
half
of
the
individuals
who
present
themselves
to
our
local
shelters
are
not
from
the
city
of
Boston.
Do
you
have
based
on
the
individuals
that
were
housing?
How
many
are
from
Boston?
How
many
are
not
originally
or
their
community
of
origin
is
other
than
Boston
yeah.
So.
B
K
B
Don't
bill,
we
have
started
to
have
conversations
with
other
local
shelters.
There's
you
know,
shelters
in
Quincy,
for
instance,
so
we
see
a
lot
of
homeless
folks
from
Quincy,
and
you
know
coming
to
our
shelters
and
so
we've
started
to
have
a
conversation.
If
someone
comes
and
they're
better
and
they're
better
served,
you
know,
does
transportation
make
sense
should
we
be,
but
the
conversations
need
to
be
more
robust,
we're
also
meeting
with
the
state
and
the
upcoming
weeks
they
have
up.
They
right
now
are
procuring
their
shelter
contracts.
B
We
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
them
about
where
what
where
the
shelters
are
going
to
fund
and
what
are
the
policies
at
those
shelters.
So
even
if
they're
funding
a
additional
shelter
statewide,
are
they
dry
shelters?
Are
they
shelters
that
bar
certain
activities,
certain
people?
If
they
do,
then
people
are
just
going
to
continue
to
come
to
Boston
and
while
I
don't
want
ever
sound
on
welcoming?
Nor
does
this
administration?
B
Sometimes
individuals
and
families
are
served
to
council
Flaherty's
point
they're
served
better
in
their
own
communities
where
they
have
ties,
even
if
there's
somewhat
fractured.
So
this
is
something
that
we're
this
year,
we're
really
going
to
focus
on,
because
I
think
we
all
felt
that
when
we
housed
so
many
homeless
individuals,
that
would
see
our
shelter
numbers
decrease
and
we're
not
where
we're
seeing
them
really
remain.
K
K
B
That
their
reimbursement-
in
fact
this
is
part
of
the
the
the
shelters-
are
sort
of
frustrated
with
it,
because
I
think
the
reimbursements
do
vary
and
I
don't
think,
there's
a
set
I,
don't
think
this
have
policy
that
actually
coincides
with
the
variation.
But
yes
they
generally
that's
true
that
no
one
is
getting
more
or
less
because
of
a
certain
population
and.
K
C
In
the
meantime,
I
can
talk
about
the
target,
so
yeah
our
targets.
For
this
year
we
had
200
chronically
homeless
veterans
was
our
house
was
our
target
for
this
year.
As
of
last
week,
we
had
already
housed
196
or
ahead
of
target
there
and
also
200
chronically
homeless
veterans
placed
in
permanent
housing
and
we've
last
week
has
150
so
we're
just
about
on
target
there
as
well
and.
R
Know
most
of
our
housing
resources
are
in
the
form
of
mobile
vouchers
and
just
because
of
the
rental
market
in
Boston,
some
of
those
vouchers
are
restricted
to
city
of
Boston,
but
some
aren't
and
so
housing
search
workers
have
to
help
people
find
housing
wherever
works
for
them
and
make
sense
for
them.
Sometimes
that's
outside
the
city
of
Boston.
R
K
R
I'll
describe
the
event:
the
answer's,
no
primarily
the
housing
search
is
not
the
biggest
way
in
which
not
the
not
the
largest
proportion
of
the
housing
that
we're
distributing
housing
surges
are.
These
we've
had
seven
of
them
in
the
City
of
Austin.
They
are
these
one-time
events,
and
the
mission
is
that
we
are
able
to
house
essentially
house
the
people
who
walk
through
the
door
that
day
so
they're
very
targeted.
The
first
event
was
for
homeless
veterans.
R
R
We
have
to
have
enough
for
everybody
who
walks
through
the
door
and
essentially
we're
asking
everybody
to
come
together,
so
that
folks
get
housing
and
services
that
same
day,
but
that's
just
I
mean
that's
the
most
public
way
in
which
we're
housing,
people,
but
actually
everyday
people
are
getting
access
to
housing,
vouchers
or
housing
units
that
are
designated
for
homeless
households,
and
so
we
have
a.
We
have
multiple
methods
that
people
are
getting
access
to
those
we've
built
a
housing
matching
engine,
that's
online.
R
So
as
soon
as
there's
a
vacancy
people
are
getting
matched
to
the
unit.
If
they're
eligible,
we
have
lots
of
rapid
rehousing
teams
out
there
engaging
people
in
the
shelter's
all
the
time,
so
the
housing
surges
are
very
well
known,
but
they're
not
actually
the
primary
way
people
are
getting
hosts
and.
A
K
I
wanna
I
know
last
year,
when
you
were
before
us,
we
were
hopeful
to
get
a
continuum
of
care
grant
or
a
grant
for
the
continuum
of
care
around
youth
and
young
homeless
and
yeah
youth
and
young,
adult
homelessness
and
I
know
Friday
you're
participated.
A
number
of
you
guys
were
at
the
the
summit
for
to
sort
of
really
spend
some
real
focus
energy
on
this
issue.
Do
you
want
to
share
a
little
bit
about
that
and
where
that
work
will
lead
us?
Yes,
over
the
next
four
months,
I
think
it
is
yeah
I.
B
B
Teenagers
and
young
adults
should
not
be
an
adult
shelter.
They
should
not
be
on
the
street.
They
should
not
be
bouncing
around
on
couches
and
unsafe
situations
in
it.
But
it's
a
it's
a
bit
of
work
that
we,
we
are
not
experts
in,
so
we
have
hired
an
expert,
Matthew,
Aronson
and
Friday.
We
kicked
off
a
planning
process
and
we
hope
that
planning
process
is
going
to
be
done
in
about
four
months.
R
So
we
we
applied
for
a
very
competitive
grant
to
fund
our
work
around
ending
homelessness
for
youth
and
young
adults.
It
would
be
a
large
two
to
four
million
dollar
grant.
Doesn't
really
ask
you
to
to
ask
for
a
man
an
amount
of
money.
You
actually
put
forward
a
plan
and
they
tell
you
how
much
money
they'll
give
you.
If
we
were
to
be
awarded
that
I
think
we
would
know
in
the
fall.
Is
that
right,
Katie,
more
or
less
it's
hard
to
say?
Sometimes
it?
It's
not.
R
We
put
in
a
very
competitive
output
application,
but
they
select
I,
think
six
urban
communities
around
the
country
and
something
like
in
five
rural-
and
you
know
tens
of
maybe
a
hundred
communities
are
applying
I,
don't
know,
but
we're
proceeding
anyways.
So
we've
we've
put
in
some
funding
for
this
consulting
team.
It's
Matt,
Aronson
and
four
others
were
very
experienced
and
we're
gonna
put
forward
a
plan
and
find
find
other
public
funds
to
fund
it.
If
HUD
doesn't
come
through.
K
L
You
I'm
just
go
actually
just
shift
just
some
of
the
funding
questions
and
how
we're
continuing
to
develop.
I
was
specifically
curious
in
the
and
the
voucher
homeowner
kind
of
debate.
I
think
that
there's
been
a
false
dichotomy
like
as
though
we
can't
have
both
increasing
homeownership
and
also
potentially
increasing
our
vouchers,
and
part
of
that
will
require
us
to
look
at
the
different
sources
of
funding
right
now.
A
lot
of
our
funding
is
coming
from
the
development
of
market
rate
housing.
C
We've
looked
at
it,
we've
I
think
we've
had
some
initial
discussions
with
the
budget
office
and
others
on
whether
this
is
something
we
we
agree
with.
You
I
think
we
have
seen
other
communities
that
have
bonded
for
housing
there
have
we
haven't
taken
that
very
far
as
of
right
now,
CPA
just
had
their
first
funding
round
issued
a
month
or
two
ago,
they're
issuing
their
next
one
in
the
fall.
C
My
sense
is
that
people
want
to
see
kind
of
the
how
that
process
plays
out
and
kind
of
get
our
feet
under
us
before
we
think
of
something
like
bond,
because
that
will
obviously
tie
up
that
revenue
to
pay
the
debt
service
on
the
bonds
for
some
time
to
come,
but
we
started
the
cop
definitely
started
the
conversation
and
looking
at
that
and
getting
a
sense
of
what
other
jurisdictions
have
done
with
their
with
their
revenue.
That.
L
Would
be
great,
I
personally
would
love
to
get
an
update
on
how
that
conversations
going
I
understand
for
maybe
this
budget.
It's
not
what
we're
looking
at,
but
I
think
it's
an
I
think
we'd
be
derelict
in
our
duty.
If
we
didn't
think
about
bonding
CPA
for
housing
and
then
in
Sheila.
You
are
excuse
me,
director
Dillon.
B
So
I
can
tell
you
that
we
promise
that
every
three
years
we
would
we
would
look
at
the
amount
that
developers
were
being
required
versus
units
or
money,
the
policies
etc
and
the
BPD
a
is
taking
the
lead
on
that
work
and
I
know
that
work
has
begun.
I
don't
have
a
timeline
for
you.
I
probably
should
have
come
with
a
timeline,
but
I
know
that
we
promised
an
analysis
and
it
is
underway,
though,.
L
B
I
think
you
know,
as
we
did
last
the
last
the
last
three
years
when
we,
when
we
did
IDP,
we
were
very
careful
and
we,
the
the
the
equation,
was
or
the
task
was.
How
much
can
we
extract
before
development
is
no
longer
feasible
and
I
think
you
know,
I
looked
the
numbers
myself,
I
thought
I
think
we
were
very,
very
thoughtful
of
IDP
and
we're
having
conversations
internally
about
linkage
as
well.
So
all
of
that
is
going
on
and
and
we
approach
it
that
way,
how
much
can
we
extract
before
development
becomes
obsolete?
B
L
Had
also
mentioned
an
earlier
testimony
that
the
city
is
looking
at
the
the
plan,
the
housing
plan
or
the
53,000
units,
since
we
are
on
on
track
and
I
think
in
an
earlier
heel
hearing,
you
had
mentioned
that
there's
potential
to
increase
that
number
for
fifty
three
thousand
units.
Worse
were
those
conversations.
B
So
the
DND
and
the
BPD,
a
working
very
closely
with
MAPC,
is
looking
at
population
numbers
right
now
to
do
two
things
to
see
whether
the
53,000
units
would
actually
meet
our
population.
Growth
was,
were
we
too
conservative
in
our
population
growth,
but
also
what
is
the
region
going
to
do
because
I
think
part
of
that
part
of
the
pressure
Boston's
feeling
is
that
the
region's
not
developing
enough
housing?
So
one
really
can't
one
can
stand
alone
if
you
will
so
where
all
of
that
right
now
is
being
analyzed
as
well,
who's.
B
L
L
Or
maybe
it's
already
happening,
but
when,
when
the
unit
or
when
the
agencies
get
together,
do
you
look
at
the
housing
and
the
numbers
through
a
racial
equity
lens?
Do
you
see
that
54%
of
Boston
are
people
of
color
and
that
the
goal
in
the
buildings
and
the
numbers
that
you
have
will
also
be
occupied
by
and
reflect
that
number
or
no
well.
B
I
think
yes
and
no
I
think
we're
being
very
intentional
about
neighborhoods
of
color
and
and
the
gentrification
and
our
concern
about
those
as
more
IDP
units
are
created
on
site.
There
certainly
is
more
of
an
opportunity
for
economic
and
racial,
diverse
diversity,
and
that's
why
we
very
much
support
developers
doing
it
on
site
or
are
in
downtown
neighborhoods,
where
we're
seeing
them
become
much
more
homogeneous
and
that's
not
what
we
want.
We
want
integrated,
neighborhoods,
both
economically
and
racially
so
I
think.
B
Yes,
we
have
committed
to
continuing
with
to
put
together
a
fair
housing
plan
which
is
well.
You
know,
HUD.
We
were
working
on
a
very,
very
diligently
and
then
HUD
said
we
didn't
have
no
longer
had
to
do
a
fair
housing
plan,
but
we
are
committed
with
our
fair
housing
partners
to
really
look
at
and
doing
a
fair
housing
plan
to
make
sure
our
neighborhoods
remain
somewhat
integrated
and
and
not
gentrified.
So.
L
Because
I
know
I'm
going
to
get
the
cane
very
soon
playoff
music,
but
just
because
one
of
our
biggest
concerns
is
we
are
in
the
Indies
in
the
building
of
Neighborhood
Development
and
we
have
a
potential
for
new
neighborhood
in
East,
Boston
and
Suffolk
Downs.
We're
going
to
be
building
that
and
and
to
be
very
frank.
This
is
not
to
Dedes
criticism
but
to
the
city's
criticism
when
we
did
develop
a
neighborhood.
It
was
wider
than
the
rest
of
us
and
we're
richer
than
the
rest
of
us
in
the
Seaport.
B
B
That's
how
we're
underwriting
all
of
our
you
know:
affordable
housing
developments,
we're
using
the
30
percent
standard.
If
it's
a
homeownership
project
we
use
33
or
whatever
the
mortgage
product
is
that
we're
using
so
they
do
vary
some.
When
we
look
at
what's
naturally
occurring
fordable
housing,
we
I
think
we're
using.
We
were
using
33,
so
it's
it's
very
close
to
30,
but
with
the
affordable
housing
developments.
It's
we're
pricing.
Everything
at
30%.
O
You
mr.
chair
and
thank
you
again
to
the
previous
speaker
for
noting,
as
I,
would
like
to
reiterate
that
support
of
both
the
piloted
voucher
program,
the
counselors
a
comes
talking
about
and
the
first
time
homebuyer
assistants
are
not
mutually
exclusive.
Indeed,
I
do
support
both
and
I.
Do
think
that
this
is
a
conversation,
be
having
they're
two
different
things:
apples
and
chainsaws,
not
even
apples
and
oranges.
O
O
Won't
treat
it
but
I
do
want
to
reiterate
that,
because
obviously,
that
is
true
and
I
have
been
dismayed
by
some
of
our
colleagues
in
government
from
Quincy
who
have
suggested
that
reopening
the
Long,
Island,
Bridge
and
opening
this
is
somewhat
tangentially
related,
isn't
a
Quincy
problem,
but
a
Boston
problem.
It
is
a
Massachusetts
problems,
great.
B
O
P
O
Now,
the
next
one
we
were
expecting
to
see
significant
cuts
from
the
federal
budget.
Due
to
this,
in
my
opinion,
lack
of
leadership
in
Washington
for
both
the
CDBG
in
the
home
grants
I
think
last
year
we
were
sort
of
guarding
for
the
fact
that
this
was
this.
Was
it
no
more
and
then
we
seem
to
ever
reprieve?
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
or
I
guess
a
better
question
way
to
phrase.
The
question
tell
me
how
you
are
dealing
with
the
uncertainty
in
Washington,
as
it
relates
to
certain
federal
streams
of
revenue.
B
So
you're
right,
we
did
receive
a
reprieve.
We
think
we're
anticipating
that
CDBG
is
going
to
increase
by
10
percent
in
our
home.
Funding
is
going
to
crease
by
40
percent
this
year,
but
it's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
fight
until
there's
an
actual
change,
I
think
an
administration.
The
way
that
we
use
the
majority
of
those
funds
was
some
of
them
are
certainly
for
programs,
and
we
would
have
a
hard
time
replacing
them.
B
So
we,
if
we
have
it,
we
spend-
and
if
we
don't
have,
we
don't
do,
but
the
fact
that
we
do
use
a
lot
of
these
funds
for
critical
programs,
we
would
have
to
either
cut
back
drastically.
Some
of
our
important
programs
around
homeownership
and
elderly,
home
repair
and
business
supports
so
they're.
The
only
thing
we
could
do
is
look
at
operating
or
look
at
efficiencies
or
look
at
doing
away
with.
You
know
less
effective
programs,
but
that
would
be
tragic.
B
O
Almost
worse
than
knowing
that
the
cut
is
imminent
because
we
have
to
be
nimble,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
efforts
in
that.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
because
we
touched
upon
it?
I
don't
have
much
time,
but
on
expiring
use
as
it
relates
to
certain
affordable
housing,
and
you
talk
about
the
Forbes
building.
You
feel
somewhat
confident
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
protect
the
residents
that
live
there,
but
other
sort
of
strategies,
as
it
relates
to
managing
what
we
have
so
that
the
deficit
doesn't
grow
wider.
So.
B
B
So
we
track
and
we
have
a
small
contract
with
our
partners
at
sea-tac
and
they
actually
track
every
deed
restriction
who
who's
the
owner
when
the
affordability
is
coming
due
and
then
we,
when
something
we
know,
has
five
years
left
four
years
left
three
years
left
we're
reaching
out
to
the
the
owner,
we're
starting
to
work
with
groups
around
organizing
tenants,
etc
and
lining
up
in
our
budget
support.
If
we
know
we
have
to
fund
to
keep
it
affordable.
So
it's
a
pretty
well
organized
effort.
B
We
meet
on
a
very
regular
basis
on
all
of
these
units.
So
that's
how
we
approach
it
and
every
unit
is
dear
to
us
in
every
unit,
is,
has
a
person
in
it
and
we're
very
worried
about
you
know,
keeping
all
of
that
affordable.
These
13
A's
have
just
consumed
for
the
last
almost
three
years,
they've
consumed.
So
much
of
our
10
G
and
money
they're,
very,
very
expensive
group
of
projects
to
to
preserve,
come.
B
But
not
that
over
only
over,
you
know
course
of
four
or
five
years.
It's
not
you
know
and
there's
some
very
high-profile
ones.
Left
we've
been
able
to
preserve
some
some
run
by
nonprofits,
so
they
were
really
never
at
risk,
except
for
you
know,
physical
obsolescence,
but
there
are
there's
a
handful
that
I'm
very
worried
about.
Okay,.
O
And
then,
finally,
this
party's
been
working
closely
with
you,
when
the
administration
and
and
really
virtually
every
members
been
engaged
in
home,
share
air
BnB
type
platforms.
Does
this
budget
reflect
the
necessary
staffing
levels
to
whatever
eventual
legislation
comes
out
to
sort
of
help
oversee
that
and
deal
with
that
know?.
B
That
that
would
be
I,
don't
think
D&E.
Is
it
contemplated
that
we
would
do
the
oversight
of
that?
It's
certainly
an
ISD.
Do
it
I
think
it
would
be
in
those
realms?
And
earlier
there
was
talk
about
the
fees
associated
with
the
Airbnb
ordinance.
Those
fees
would
generate,
hopefully
enough
money
to
oversee
the
compliance
of
the
ordinance.
S
You
so
much
mr.
chair
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing.
First
I
would
just
again
echo
what
my
colleague
has
already
said
about
the
Seaport
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
that
wasn't
just
about
private
development,
but
that
was
public
dollars
were
used
to
fund
and
create
that
neighborhood.
And
so
it's
encouraging
to
hear
that
you're
being
much
more
thoughtful
and
intentional
as
we
move
forward.
I
have
some
questions,
I'm,
not
sure
what
was
already
a.
S
B
Was-
and
we
can
get
that
for
you
but
of
the
26,000
units
that
are
that
have
been
permitted
about
2,000
are
affordable
to
low
income.
Households
about
another
2,500
are
affordable
to
more
middle-income
households,
but
those
are
deed,
restricted
and
another
five-ish
are
units
that
we
believe
that
are
in
the
market
that
are
affordable
to
our
definition
of
middle-income
household,
which.
B
B
S
B
Know
everybody
has
a
definition:
I
mean
everyone
sort
of
sees
what's
affordable
and
the
the
opinions
vary
widely,
but
most
of
our
money
when
we
fund
affordable
housing,
rental
projects.
Most
of
them
are
funding
units
that
are
available
to
households
making
between
twenty
one
thousand
and
fifty
five
thousand.
B
So
I
think
you
know
everyone's
got
an
opinion
that
we
should
be
not
I'm,
not
saying
this
is
about
you,
but
about
where
we
should
putting
all
of
our
resources,
but
I
think
we
really
have
determined
that
the
need
is
across.
You
know
multiple
income
groups
and
that
we
should
be
refurbishing
public
public
housing.
That
service
is
servicing
our
you
know
our
housing,
our
lowest
income,
households
right
up
to
a
middle-income
population,
trying
to
keep
them
here
so
and
how.
B
So
we're
we're
making
sure
that
all
the
new
housing
that's
created
all
the
new,
affordable
housing.
That's
created,
everyone
knows
about
this
opportunity
and
we
are
really
making
sure
we're
also
making
sure
that
we're
having
a
lot
of
we're
trying
to
put
a
lot
of
new,
affordable
housing
in
neighborhoods,
where
we're
very
worried
about
gentrification
and
making
sure
that
those
households
know
of
the
opportunity.
I
always
say
it
was
what
we
why
we
really
want
to
have
mixed
income
and
racially
diverse
neighborhoods.
B
S
B
There
are
so
there
were.
There
are
3000
inclusionary
development
units
that
have
been
produced
on
site
or
by
the
developer
off
site,
but
the
vast
majority
of
those
3,000
are
on
site
and
then
there's
another
1800
IDP
units
that
have
been
created
using
inclusionary
development
funding.
So
funding
that
we
get
from
the
developers
for
a
total
of
48
hundred
units.
S
B
B
D
Thank
You
councillor
I
just
had
one
question
on
what
is
the
latest
on
Airbnb
I
continue
to
visit
Chinatown
every
day,
I
was
over
there
this
weekend,
I
do
see
more
people
moving
out
a
lot
of
longtime
residents
being
pushed
out
actually
and
I
see
a
lot
of
young
people
using
Airbnb.
These
corporate
companies
are
buying
up
the
property.
What's
the
latest
on
this
sure.
B
So,
as
you
know,
the
administration
filed
an
ordinance
and
councillor
Edwards
and
councillor
woo
did
as
well
there's
conversations
going
on
between
those
two
councillors
and
the
administration
and
I
believe
that
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
there'll
be
a
new
ordinance
filed
based
on
all
of
those
robust
conversations.
So
I
know
people
working
out
very,
very
hard
I'm,
not
at
liberty
to
say
where,
how
it's
shaping
up
but
I'm,
pretty
confident
that
they'll
reach
a
compromise
that
everyone
can
feel
good
about.
I
think.
D
D
B
Councilor
and
I
know
it
is
for
the
Walsh
administration
they
they're
very
interested
in
getting
this
under
control.
You
know:
we've
had
a
very
healthy
pipeline
of
affordable
housing
projects
in
Chinatown
and
we're
continuing
to
work
on
others
with
you
parcel
12
and
a
few
others,
but
if
we're
gonna
keep
Chinatown
affordable,
we
need
to
develop
that
pipeline.
So
it's
always
on
the
forefront
of
our
minds.
B
D
Do
you,
what
do
you
think
of
the
the
future
is
of
Chinatown
as
it
relates
to
affordable
housing?
Are
we
able
to
ensure
that
it
remains
a
neighborhood
of
immigrants
and
low-income
families,
or
are
we
going
to
you
know,
build
housing
for
the
wealthy
I
know,
there's
some
housing
that
was
recently
built
and
it's
you
know
a
lot
of
money
came
foreign
money
was
was
invested
in
there,
but
how
can
we
ensure
that
Chinatown
remains
a
community
of
immigrants
of
low-income
families?
And
you
know
people
that
are
working
hard.
B
So
Chinatown
and
I
go
back
and
check
my
percentages.
It's
it's
about.
43
to
45
percent
of
the
residential
stock.
Incheon
town
is
deed,
restricted,
affordable,
which
is
good,
so
there
I
think
there
will
always
be
a
large
number
of
households
in
Chinatown
that
that
can
that
can
stay,
I
think
my
goal
and
I
certainly
think
the
Walsh
administration
I
know
they're.
Supportive
of
this
is
to
increase
that
percentage
and
make
make
even
more
of
Chinatown
affordable
to
make
sure
it's
it's
it's
going
to
be
around
for
decades
to
come.
B
It's
under
a
lot
of
development
pressure,
given
its
proximity
to
downtown
48
Boylston
streets
under
construction.
We
just
finished
up
Hudson
Street
I
know
that
the
BPD
is
looking
at
other
land
holdings.
They
have
in
Chinatown.
So
it
is
it's!
It's
going
to.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
a
constant,
a
constant
piece
of
our
work
to
make
sure
that
Chinatown,
both
the
businesses
and
the
residential
fabric
remain.
What's.
B
B
B
I
Lila
thanks
for
staying
when
you
were
getting
up
to
leave
I
had
a
question,
so
you
had
talked
about
your
plan
for
the
or
not
your
plan,
but
the
DND
plan
to
end
homelessness.
Can
you
can
you
kind
of
clue
me
in
a
little
bit
of
what
what
we
should
be
thinking
about?
How
what
direction
are
we
going
in?
How
are
we
gonna
speak
to
that
issue?
Sure
yeah.
I
R
The
plan
is
focused
on
unaccompanied
youth,
which
we're
defining
as
any
household
that
is
headed
by
someone
who's
under
25,
so
it
includes
18
to
25.
It
includes
people
under
25
under
18
as
well,
and
some
of
those
youth
are
or
young
adults
are
parenting,
but
if
the
head
of
households
under
25
that
would
be
included,
we're
learning
a
lot
about
youth
and
young
adults
and
homelessness
among
that
population
and
housing
is
only
one
piece
of
it.
So
a
lot
of
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
a
DND
plan.
R
It's
gonna
be
a
city
plan
and
we're
engaging
partners
in
all
sorts
of
sectors
who
we
don't
typically
work
with
as
closely
so,
for
example,
for
example,
the
community
colleges
and
employers
and
mentors
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
interventions
that
will
probably
have
very
little
to
do
with
affordable
housing
I'm
much
more
to
do
with
opportunity.
Yeah.
I
R
I
Thank
you
Sheila.
Can
we
talk
a
little
bit?
I
know
we
beat
this
one
a
beat
it
and
beat
it,
but
the
the
downpayment
assistance
who
was
coming
in
for
the
downpayment
assistance
I
think
that
every
city
city
worker
should
have
available
to
them
down
payment
assistance
and
more
than
just
a
five
thousand
ten
thousand
I
think
that's
the
way
we
can
help.
No,
the
person,
that's
in
public
works,
it's
making
forty
grand
they
need.
They
need
help.
B
The
so
it's
everybody
comes
in
for
down
payment
and
closing
costs.
I
think
our
average
award
is
about
fourteen
thousand
dollars,
which
really
is
sometimes
gets
somebody
into
a
home
that
they
would
not
necessarily
be
able
to
afford
their
buying
throughout
the
city
they're
buying
some
of
our
affordable
home
ownership,
but
there's
a
lot
of
acquisitions
to
going
on
in
Hyde
Park,
where
people
want
a
single-family
home.
B
H
B
C
We
have
about
the
total
budget
for
downpayment
assistance,
it's
about
1.4
million
for
FY
19,
so
we
were
getting
$500,000
from
the
city
in
our
housing,
2030
special
appropriation
for
the
middle-income
homebuyers.
That
was
just
that
was
just
increased
to
a
million,
and
then
we
use
I'm,
sorry
I
said
yeah
four
hundred
thousand
in
CDBG
for
the
low-income
homebuyers
for
down
payment.
M
B
B
I
C
I
C
I
Because
Chile
had
talked
about
housing
stabilization,
a
we
are
we
and
where
we're
getting
the
office
another
three
hundred.
Sixty-Five
thousand
that's
so
a
couple
things
for
me:
how's
that
three
hundred
sixty
five
thousand
I'm
going
to
be
spent.
How
we
gotta
probably
going
to
support
that
that
office
and
then
and
then
the
second
part
of
the
question,
is
you
had
talked
about
averting
evictions?
How
many
were
there
and
can
you
explain
to
me
some
of
the
situations?
How
do
we
avert?
You
know
stay
away
from
those
evictions.
What
what
happened?
B
Sure
so
the
this
budget
calls
for
an
additional
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
flexible
financial
assistance
and
and
this
money
is
really
important-
it's
if
someone
is
gotten
behind
the
rent,
mm-hmm,
someone
all
of
a
sudden
is
burned
out,
and
they
you
know.
So
it's
it's.
It's
flexible
money
that
we
can
use.
We.
B
I
H
B
These
are
people
that
have
just
general
questions
about
their
rights
as
tenants
or
they're.
Coming
in,
with
more
more
more
serious
concerns
they're
behind
in
the
rent,
they
are
being
asked
to
leave,
for
sometimes
it's
fault.
Sometimes
it's
no
fault.
So
these
folks
are
answering
questions
all
day
long
and
getting
them
hooked
up
to
the
resources
that
we
have
or
that
other
departments
have
so
just
having
another
body
down
there,
because
it's
busy,
if
you
walked
in
neutral,
see
people
there
they're
the
phone's
ringing.
B
There's
people
waiting
to
talk
to
people,
it's
it's
a
busy
department,
so
that's
gonna
be
key.
We're
also
asking
for
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
up
our
legal
assistance.
There
is
no
right
to
counsel
in
this
state,
so
people
are
that
are
being
evicted
or
going
into
court
or
negotiating
with
landlords,
and
they
don't
have
lawyers
president.
B
B
Yes
and
then
mate,
so
people
come
in
saying
you
you,
you
really
need
a
lawyer,
because
while
we
provide
over
the
over
the
phone
we
will
say
this
is
your
right.
This
isn't
your
right.
We
don't
represent
people
in
court,
so
there's
money
for
that
and
then
we're
we're
putting
more
money
in
for
the
emergency
housing,
because
we've
seemed
to
have
every
time
you
see.
There's
a
fire
yeah.
I
B
B
The
red
the
Red
Cross
usually
puts
them
up
right
after
the
fire
for
number
of
days,
but
then
they've
got
if
the
fire,
if
their
apartment
has
burned
out
and
they
don't
have
renters
insurance.
Sometimes
we
can
get
the
landlord
to
keep
them,
keep
them
in
place
for
a
while.
Sometimes
we
can't
so.
We
need
to
start
working
with
them
immediately
to
find
a
new
place
or
tell
them
to
go
out
and
search,
and
then
we
help
with
first
and
last.
I
I
B
B
They
are
designated,
they
they're,
bringing
their
own
land
as
well,
and
it's
a
it's,
affordable
home
ownership
that
we've
been
talking
about.
So
very,
very
nice
development.
A
lot
of
the
New
England
have
sites
we
don't
own,
but
we
we
do
own
them.
Some
of
these
that
will
be
developed
into
affordable
home
ownership.
I
I
B
I
B
C
I
B
I
B
As
we
as
we
wanted
to
stay
in
most
neighborhoods,
where
it's
generated,
and
so
we
were
aware
that
the
BHA
was
putting
out
that's
that
land,
we
knew
that
RFP
was
happening.
We
knew
that
the
South
Boston
NDC
had
been
designated
and
we
started
calling
them
and
making
matches
the
BPD
a
really
is
playing
matchmaker.
In
some
cases,
some
cases
the
developers
know
where
the
fordable
housing
is
and
they're
they're,
picking
up
the
phone
and
calling
to
see.
B
Can
chase
it
for
a
private
developers?
So
what
happens
both
ways
with
the
there
is
some
IDP
money
going
in
to
preservation
projects,
including
the
BHA,
but
like
I,
said
earlier
in
my
remarks.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
see
IDP
as
being
present
a
production
source,
so
we've
been
more
excited
about
having
a
go
into
new
production,
a
new
creation
of
affordable
units
and
preservation.
But
we
do
do
some
because.
I
Yeah
yeah
both
perfect
in
one
more
question,
I
know,
I
said:
I
was
done,
but
back
up
on
New
England,
New,
England,
AB
yeah.
The
way
we
had
talked
about
the
Box
Factory
when
was
that
designated
to
Codman
square,
so
you
know
I'm
going
to
have
the
large
parcel
there.
That
is
Codman
square.
Is
how
long?
So?
How
long
did
that
take
for
Cartman
Square
to
get
off
the
ground?
I'd.
B
N
M
P
I
K
B
B
S
S
B
S
B
S
I
can't
find
that
matter.
Yeah
yeah
in
terms
of
city
funded
rental
subsidies,
so
would
be
in
favor
of
seeing
that
and
hope
that
your
office
would
move
forward
big
proponent
of
making
sure
that,
of
course,
we
need
home
ownership
opportunities
and
assistance,
helping
families
with
downpayment,
but
we
also
can
look
creatively
at
ways
of
making
sure
that
there
are
rental
subsidies
and
I
hope
that
we
do
that.
One
way
in
particular
could
be
through
flippers
tax
or
luxury
condo
tax
I'm,
also
interested
in
looking
at
a
vacancy
tax.
S
B
Certainly,
we
know
that
some
units
are
not
being
occupied,
but
I
have
no
data
and
I,
don't
know
how
to
get
it.
I
don't
know
how
to
quantify
and
and
and
I'm
asking
around,
and
nobody
seems
to
know
either
how
we
know
whether
a
new
apartment
building,
for
instance,
has
you
know
15
of
a
hundred
units
you
know
vacant,
so
I
walk
around
I.
Look
at
them,
I
see
whether
you
know
people
if
there's
lights
on,
but
we
don't
have
any
data
to
know
whether
it's
a
very
small
percentage
or
a
significant
percentage.
B
S
B
B
The
piano
factory
was
an
affordable
development
that
lost
its
affordability,
restrictions
in
the
90s,
I,
believe
councilor,
and
but
then
there
was
a
subsequent
agreement
that
some
of
the
the
artists,
especially
the
artists
that
were
using
the
piano
factory
to
work
in,
could
stay
and
I
believe
those
those
restrictions
are
now
up
and
the
owner
has
asked
very
long-term
residents
to
leave.
The
administration
is
calling
the
owner
they're
outraged,
so
I
were
working
on
it
and
we
can
certainly
report
back
when
we
have
more
wonderful.
A
S
A
S
I
M
Well,
thank
you
for
waiting
this
long
for
the
public
testimony.
My
name
is
Michael
Caine
and
from
the
mass
alliance
of
HUD
tenants
and
we
are
spearheading
a
coalition
of
about
30
organizations
that
have
sent
a
letter
to
the
mayor.
I
have
copies
of
it
for
the
council,
I
think
most
of
you
received
it
that
supports
again
the
idea
of
a
city
funded,
rent
subsidy
program.
M
We
want
to
thank
the
councillors.
There
are
10
councillors,
councillor
asabi,
George
and
Janey
are
among
them
that
also
sent
a
letter
to
the
mayor,
supporting
rent
subsidies
for
very
low
income
people
and
in
council
you
had
mentioned
you
know
the
the
need
for
homebuyer
assistance.
We
certainly
support
that.
It's
not
an
either/or
thing.
M
As
councillor
O'malley
pointed
out,
there
are
needs
for
all
kinds
of
housing
assistance,
but
one
of
the
biggest
flaws
in
the
mayors
of
shortcomings,
I,
should
say
the
mayor's
housing
plan
is
that
the
low-income
units
which
they
just
talked
about
2,000
units
of
new,
low-income
housing
in
the
last
year
are
targeted
to
people
at
60%
of
the
median.
Now
most
of
the
renters
in
the
city
are
actually
below
that
income
level.
M
Most
of
them,
the
people
that
are
below
30
percent
of
the
median,
almost
everybody
in
assisted
housing
is
certainly
below
30
percent,
but
there
are
many
people.
The
people
that
are
really
getting
squeezed
out
of
the
city
are
low
income
renters,
predominantly
they're,
not
exclusively
people
of
color
and
the
numbers
are.
M
According
the
mayor's
plan
itself,
there
are
38
thousand
two
hundred
low-income
non-elderly
households
that
will
need
rental
assistance
by
2030
38,000
people
that
are
not
assisted
in
the
mayor's
plan.
Except
for
one
thing,
the
mayor's
plan
says
that
of
the
new
low-income
housing
units
built
for
families,
of
which
there
would
be
see
500
out
of
the
53,000
out
of
the
6500
1700
would
be
for
very
low
income
people.
How
is
that
funded
they're,
taking
vouchers
from
the
BH
a
pool
and
converting
them
to
project-based
vouchers?
M
So
that's
fine
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
some
of
those
new
low
income
units
are
available
for
very
low
income
people,
but
there's
not
as
in
the
mayor's
plan.
There's
not
one
unit
of
net
low-income
rental
housing
for
families
zero
in
the
mayor's
plan.
That's
a
major
shortcoming.
We
think
and
the
city's
always
embarrassed
and
we
bring
that
up,
but
that's
what
it
says.
M
So
some
of
those
2,000
units
will
be
affordable
to
very
low
income
people
because
vouchers
will
be
used
for
them,
but
that's
foul
sure's
that
come
out
of
the
voucher
pool
for
the
city.
So
it's
not
a
net
increase.
So
one
way
to
address
that
is
for
the
city
to
come
up
with
supplemental
funding
for
low-income
renters.
That's
what
the
proposal
is.
It
would
be
to
create
project-based
rental
assistance,
project-based
vouchers,
just
like
the
ones
that
the
BHA
is
actually
doing,
but
to
increase
the
number
by
coming
up
with
an
additional
funding
source.
M
So
the
city,
the
city
of
Boston,
the
BHA,
gets
about
13,000
rental
vouchers
from
HUD
each
year.
Unfortunately,
Congress
did
sustain
that
and
actually
increase
it
slightly
in
2018.
We
think
they
probably
will
in
2019.
We
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
after
that,
but
at
least
there's
there
hasn't
been
a
cut
in
vouchers,
but
the
need
is
still
very
great.
In
the
city
and
that's
what
we're
we're
looking
to
to
get
support
from
the
council
for-
and
we
again
appreciate
that
10
councillors
have
stood
up
for
that.
I
just
want
a
couple.
M
A
couple
of
points,
though
additional
points,
the
city
of
Washington
DC
program,
on
which
our
proposal
is
based.
The
law
is
called
a
local
rent
subsidy
program,
it's
funded
out
of
the
regular
city
budget,
60%
of
that
money,
and
it's
about
46
million
a
year
now,
60%
of
that
money
goes
for
project-based
rental
assistance,
not
tenant,
based
assistance,
project-based
rental
assistance
that
is
much
less
expensive
when
it's
especially
if
it's
tied
to
a
low-income
housing
tax
credit
unit.
M
So,
for
instance,
if
you
take
those
6500
units
there,
there
are
probably
some
project-based
vouchers
planned
for
those.
Now
they
cost
about
$10,000
a
year
to
subsidize
a
very
low-income
person
who
is
below
30%
of
the
meeting
about
$10,000.
Well,
we
have
a
recommendation
for
how
to
fund
that
which
is
in
our
latest
proposal.
A
recommendation
is
to
take
the
new
revenue
from
the
luxury
condos
that
are
being
built
in
the
city,
the
new
revenue,
just
the
property
tax
revenue
for
every
million
dollars
in
value.
M
The
owner
pays
about
ten
and
a
half
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
taxes.
That's
the
tax
rate,
that's
enough
for
one
low
income
renter
on
a
permanent
basis.
If
that,
if
you
took
that
new
revenue
and
simply
set
it
aside
for
low
income,
renter
the
low
income
renters,
it
would
be
a
one
for
one
correspondence.
So
look
at
the
Millennium
building.
We
looked
at
it
today,
we're
coming
over
here,
442
new
luxury
condos
in
the
Millennium
towers.
Building,
that's
already
opened
the
average
sale
price
was
2.4
million
dollars.
M
Very
few
people
in
Boston
can
afford
that,
and
hardly
anybody
from
Boston
bought
into
it.
They're,
mostly
foreign
investors.
Only
25%
are
actually
took
the
residential
exemption,
so
most
of
them
are
actually
foreign
investors
that
are
purchasing
a
unit.
The
top
floor
was
purchased
by
John
breakn
for
37
million
dollars
and
the
that
one
unit.
What
that
one
unit
alone
is
generating
three
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
in
tax
revenue
for
the
city
of
Boston,
that's
enough
for
35,
low-income
renters!
M
That's
the
tenants
are
here
from
New
Castle
Saranac,
one
of
the
13a
buildings,
we're
gonna,
be
meeting
with
Sheila
Dillon,
saying
we
need
35
five
units
of
Lowe
of
project-based
vouchers
to
make
sure
the
families
can
stay
there.
Well
that
one
unit
and
the
Millennium
Towers
building
is
enough
money
to
take
care
of
the
entire
building
at
Newcastle
saranac.
So
our
recommendation
is
earmark
just
the
portion
of
new
tax
revenues
from
the
new
luxury
condos
that
are
going
up
in
the
city
just
that
portion.
M
That's
above
a
million
dollars
a
year
earmarked
that
revenue
for
low-income
rent
subsidies,
Millennium
Towers,
is,
as
generating
ten
point
nine
million
a
year
now,
ten
point
nine
million.
That
is
enough
for
one
thousand
low-income
rent
subsidies
right
because
it's
a
so
you
get
the
point
that
Sheila
Dillon
was
mentioning
three.
She
thought
five
million
would
be
enough
for
three
hundred:
that's
if
they
were
rental
vouchers.
M
They
are
a
lot
more
expensive,
but
if
they're
project-based
vouchers
it's
enough
for
five
hundred,
so
we
think
this
is
a
way
to
address
the
problem
of
homelessness
in
the
city.
A
thousand
thousand
units
would
get
go
a
long
way
toward
addressing
the
problem.
The
other
problems
that
the
city's
plan
is
addressing,
like
chronic
homelessness
thousand
units
that
can
be
made
available
for
housing
first,
low-income
homeless
people.
So
that
is
a
we
just
wanted
to
emphasize
those
points
councillor.
M
We
need
your
help
to
send
that
message
to
the
city
that
they
need
to
come
up
with
some
of
that
money
or
just
earmark
that
future
revenue,
2200
luxury
condos,
are
being
built
now
all
over
the
city,
including
in
Brighton,
including
the
Southend
East
bus
and
Charles.
Every
single
neighbor
is
getting
these
luxury
condos.
We
think
that's
driving
the
rents
up.
That's
driving
lower
income,
it's
making
it
harder
for
low-income
people
to
stay
in
the
city.
M
It
would
be
poetic
justice
to
take
the
revenue
from
those
luxury
units
alone,
an
ear
market
for
low
income
renters.
If
you
phase
it
in
over
the
next
few
years
as
those
buildings
come
online,
we're
talking
four
or
five
thousand
low-income
rent
subsidies,
it
wouldn't
take
anything
out
of
the
existing
budget,
we're
just
taking
it
out
of
future
revenue,
so
we're
encouraging
the
city
to
look
at
it
like
that.
M
You
don't
even
need
an
ordinance,
you
don't
the
legislation,
it's
just
a
question
of
persuading
the
mayor
to
target
the
new
revenue,
a
portion
of
the
new
revenue
that
the
city
is
getting
so
I
just
wanted
to
address
it
because
you
had
brought
up
some
of
those
concerns
and
I
wanted
to
address
the
estimate
of
costs
that
Sheila
Dillon
had
mentioned.
Thank.
M
U
I
was
concerned
and
came
here
after
I
heard,
Chief
Dylan
and
Boston
Public
School
Makeba,
McCreary
who's.
The
managing
director
for
external
affairs.
This
month
asked
the
appointed
Boston
School
Committee,
to
vote
to
separate
a
parcel
from
the
existing
footprint
of
the
Boston
Public
Schools.
To
declare
that
parcel
surplus
and
underutilized.
U
Those
occurred
unbeknownst
to
the
Harbor
Point
community
task
force
to
residents
of
Columbia
Point,
also
known
as
Harbor
Point,
so
residents
of
the
city,
or
even
people
at
the
Dever
and
McCormick
schools.
To
date,
the
city
has
not
shared
its
ten-year
education
and
facilities
master
plan
with
the
public.
U
Has
the
city
share
details
of
the
10-year
master
plan,
with
you,
the
City
Council
or
with
Department
of
neighborhood
and
development
part
one
was
a
survey
of
facilities,
but
there
are
no
details
about
where
we're
going
with
each
facility
in
each
parcel
of
land
over
the
next
ten
years.
What
is
the
process
for
determining
or
declaring
school
property
surplus
property?
How
many
schools
have
surrounding
land
that
can
be
used
for
athletics
recess,
gardening
and
other
educational
uses
for
our
Boston
Public
Schools
students?
U
How
many
schools
and
our
school
yards
across
the
city
and
we're
talking?
West
Roxbury
to
Hyde
Park
to
Columbia
Point
to
East
Boston
are
going
to
be
renovated,
repurposed
or
declared
surplus
and
sold
or
leased
to
developers
and
taken
out
of
the
jurisdiction
and
control
of
the
school
department
that
currently
controls
facilities
and
rents.
Sometimes,
rents
out
use
of
the
gym
or
the
library
for
public
purposes.
It
would
be
out
of
the
school
departments
control.
U
What
is
the
educational
and
facilities
plan
for
the
Dever
k-25
school
and
the
mccormick
six
to
eight
middle
school?
Will
it
be
those
school
buildings
be
renovated
and
for
what
use?
With
all
due
respects?
One
of
the
counselors
mentioned
the
Rogers
and
in
non-public
school
use
for
that
building
the
middle
school
was
closed
there,
but
according
to
the
demographic
surveys
and
the
building
surveys
that
were
done
in
part,
one
of
build
Boston
analysis.
There
is
no
extra
space
in
the
Boston
Public
Schools.
U
So
it
is
complex,
but
educational
and
economic
justice
require
equal
access
to
involvement
in
government
decision
making.
So
my
ask
and
I
came
here
to
respectfully
suggest
that
the
City
Council
impose
a
moratorium
on
declaring
any
school
building
or
land
surplus
until
the
city
reveals
the
details
of
the
ten-year
education
and
facilities
master
plan
and
condition
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
appropriations
for
fiscal
19.
U
Not
to
spend
money
or
staff
time
on
the
Columbia
point
properties
in
fiscal
19
until
the
city
engages
in
an
authentic
community
engagement
process
that
empowers,
in
this
case
the
Harbor
Point
community
task
force,
which
has
residents
with
students
at
those
schools
uses
and
voluntarily,
maintains
the
school
yards
and
fields
there
that
are
being
surplus
and
actually
has
developed
a
plan
and
is
raising
money
for
its
own
plan
to
improve
the
school
yard
land
in
the
way
that
preserves
green
space.
Thank
you
thank.
V
V
Earlier
Sheila
said
that
Roxbury
Dorchester
Mattapan
or
where
the
majority
of
the
Vixens
are
happening,
and
we
know
they're
also
happening
in
East,
Boston
and
Jamaica
Plain
in
Chinatown,
and
that
we
have
to
have
policies
that
make
sure
that
the
city
stays
welcoming
to
people
of
color
and
working-class
folks,
who've
been
here
to
their
children,
who
are
growing
up
into
folks
moving
in
here.
Otherwise
we'll
have
a
bunch
of
Seaport
looking
like
neighborhoods
all
over
the
city.
V
You
know,
if
you
look
at
incomes
of
folks
and
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
as
I
know
folks,
I've
heard
from
your
constituents.
You
know
in
Roxbury
a
lot
of
folks
are
making
less
than
30,000
year
in
Chinatown
also
the
same
thing,
but
that's
not
what
we're
building
for
and
so
there's
a
few
myths
out
there
around
housing
that
I
think
are
really
important
to
tackle.
One
is
that
the
housing
crisis
is
primarily
about
just
the
middle
income.
What
the
city
calls
middle
income
folks
and
it's
true
that
some
folks
are
getting
squeezed
out.
V
You
know
if
they're
making
a
seventy
thousand
says.
You
know
the
folks
making
a
hundred
twenty-five
thousand
year
or
facing
hard
times,
but
that's
ignoring
all
the
folks
making
way
less
money.
You
know
most
of
the
city
makes
less
than
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
if
you're
going
to
build,
you
need
to
build
for
everyone,
not
just
the
folks
who
the
city
is
calling
in
the
middle
which
we're
actually
up
in
the
higher
end.
You
know,
folks,
have
talked
in
Roxbury
about
needing
real
median
incomes
based
on
what
a
Roxbury
folks
make.
V
If
you
look
at
whose
housing
burden
this
in
the
city
almost
50,000
folks
who
make
less
than
about
30,000
a
year,
50,000
households,
I'm.
Sorry
pay
more
than
thirty
or
fifty
percent
of
their
income
on
rent
and
so
for
all
the
folks
who
say:
oh
you
know
all
the
poor
people
they're
set.
They
have
all
these
programs,
they
have
public
housing.
You
know
it's
really
everyone
who's,
making
more
money,
who's
suffering.
A
colleague
of
mine,
pointed
out
the
other
day.
Well,
would
you
trade
places
with
them?
V
What
do
you
trade
places
with
someone
who's,
making
$20,000
a
year,
working,
full-time
and
supposedly
getting
all
these
housing
benefits,
and
the
answer
is
obviously
not
because
it's
really
hard
making
ends
meet
and
most
folks
at
that
income
level
aren't
getting
housing
assistance.
So
that's
one.
Myth
is
that
we
need
to
only
build
for
the
so-called
middle
income
as
if
it's
okay
to
ignore
the
folks
on
the
bottom,
I
think
the
other
myth
is
that
homeownership
is
the
main
thing
that
we
need
to
go
for
and
that
building
affordable
rental
goes
against
that.
V
The
fact
is,
you
can't
save
money
to
buy
a
home
if
you're,
paying
50
60
70
%
of
your
income
on
rent.
So
a
lot
of
folks
I
know
who've
been
able
to
buy
homes
is
because
they
were
able
to
pay
decent,
affordable
rents,
save
money
over
time
and
then
buy
homes.
So
I
hope
that
folks
don't
fall
into
that
trap
of
ignoring
the
vast
majority
of
folks
who
are
really
struggling.
Getting
a
big
are
paying
rents
now.
V
So
here's
three
solutions:
one
is
keeping
hundreds
in
support
of
the
campaign
to
get
low-income
rental
subsidies,
which
would
really
be
attached
to
these
new
projects.
So
the
administration
and
Sheila
have
said
they
want
to
make
sure
we're
building,
affordable
housing.
You
know
the
idea
right
now.
Behind
these
rental
subsidies
is
they're,
not
vouchers,
you're,
taking
to
go
and
pay
off
some
$3,000
a
month
rent
and
with
some
landlord
who's
charging
exorbitant
rents.
It's
for
the
cdc's.
V
V
So
it's
not
just
Washington
DC
Seattle
is
spending
six
million
dollars
a
year
on
rental
subsidies.
Walsim
is
using
CPA
money
for
rental
subsidies,
so
it's
very
doable
to
do
and
it's
important
that
we
do
it.
The
second
solution
is
right.
Now,
D&D
only
requires
that
10%
of
city
funded,
affordable
housing
goes
to
homeless.
Folks
are
folks,
making
30%
am
I
low,
which
means
folks
making
about
$30,000
or
less,
but
again,
other
cities
are
doing
this
much
stronger
and
seattle.
V
Half
of
the
new,
affordable
housing
is
required
to
be
for
folks,
making
$30,000
or
less
again
really
addressing
the
needs
of
the
folks
at
the
bottom,
and
so
that's
something
that
D&D
could
change
in
its
policies,
along
with
having
the
vouchers
to
back
it
up
is
by
requiring
more
affordable.
Housing
is
actually
at
those
lowest
income
levels
and
then,
finally,
we
need
to
change
the
overall
citywide
plan,
a
number
of
y'all
ass.
Today
you
know
out
of
these
53,000
units
how
much
is
affordable?
V
It's
important
that
city
council
really
be
more
active,
as
the
mayor
in
the
city
are
looking
at
revising
on
that
plan
to
look
at
the
details
so,
for
example,
20%
in
that
housing,
that's
being
called
that
they're
calling
affordable
as
a
councillor
Melia
pointed
out,
it
could
be
$3,000
a
month
and
rent.
So
I
asked
is
a
$3,000
a
month
apartment
building
being
built
in
Roxbury,
South,
Boston
or
Chinatown.
Is
that
going
to
help
the
residents
there
now
or
is
it
going
to
further
displacement
gentrification?
V
So,
let's
see
where
they're
building
all
those
units
and
what
the
effect
is
only
3%
of
the
housing?
The
plan
is
for
folks
making
$30,000
or
less
and,
as
Michael
pointed
out,
a
lot
of
that
isn't
actually
coming
from
new
housing
and
just
moving
vouchers
around
and
only
another
six
or
seven
percent
is
for
folks
making
$50,000
or
less
so
that's
only
10%
of
all
the
new
housing
is
being
built
for
the
majority
of
Boston.
V
Sorry
I
go
back
to
the
original
point
that
this
means
we're
risking
that
all
these
neighborhoods
in
Boston
are
going
to
look
more
and
more
like
the
Seaport.
So
we
need
to
have
more
housing,
but
for
the
lowest
income
levels
in
the
housing
plan.
We
need
the
vouchers
to
back
that
up
and,
as
councillor
Edward
said
before,
we
need
to
really
look
at
this
through
our
lens
of
racial
equity
to
make
sure
who's
moving
into
these
new
apartments.
V
T
Okay,
so
I
do
my
name
is
Rahul
I
live
in
the
south
end
and
I'm,
like
my
family
and
I,
are
affected
by
the
13a
coming
coming
to
an
end,
so
I've
been
working
closely
with
Michael
and
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
guys
that
we
I
was
going
through.
Actually
a
lot
of
what
I
have
to
say
is:
it
is
reiterating
what
what
we've
all
been
saying.
T
If
you
look
at
the
am
eyes-
and
this
is
the
first
time
as
a
Boston
citizen
and
I'm-
a
Boston
resident
that
I
actually
paid
attention
to
the
a.m.
eyes
and
I
could
contest
it.
Along
with
more
than
half
my
block
I,
we
don't
fit
in
any
of
these
categories.
I
work
at
a
hospital
and
I
don't
make
eighty
percent
of
what
of
am.
T
I
I,
don't
make
and
I
have
a
child,
so
I
don't
been
sitting
here
today
and
listening
to
Sheila
and
the
rest
of
the
panel
I
think
that
there
is
there's
there's
a
lot
of
discrepancies
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
revise,
regardless
of
what
our
opinions
are.
The
truth
and
reality
is
that
most
of
Boston
Dorchester
Roxbury
Mattapan
we've
worked
here
four
years
for
four
generations.
Q
T
As
far
as
being
homeowners,
I
myself
would
love
to
be
a
Boston
homeowner,
not
a
I,
don't
even
know
I
just
want
to
say
and
I
wonder:
yeah
I
want
to
stay
in
the
city
I've
been
in
the
city.
I
want
to
raise
my
kids
in
the
city.
We
have
so
many
benefits
and
beautiful
areas
in
the
city.
The
comments
everywhere
so
again,
I'm
not
gonna,
take
your
time
but
too
much
time.