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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on May 21, 2018
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Dockets #0559-0565- Fiscal Years 2019 Budget: Boston Fire Department
A
A
Ask
you
all
in
the
chamber
to
silence
electronic
devices
at
the
conclusion
of
our
departments,
presentation
and
questions
from
my
colleagues.
We
will
take
public
testimony
if
you
so
choose.
There
are
sign-in
sheets
to
my
left.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
affiliation
residents
and
please
check
the
box.
A
If
you
do
wish
to
testify
like
to
introduce
my
colleagues
in
order
of
their
arrival
to
my
left,
counselor
ed,
Flynn,
counselor,
Michael
clarity,
and
to
my
immediate
right,
counselor
Tim,
McCarthy,
the
chair
of
Public
Safety,
and
to
my
far
left
again,
councillor
Ayanna
Presley
I'd,
also
like
to
recognize
we're
joined
by
local
718
president
Richie
Paris
and
bla
petit
II
thanks
for
joining
us
today
and
with
that
Commissioner
I'll,
give
you
the
floor.
Did.
B
Thank
You
councillor
first
I'd
like
to
thank
me.
A
Walsh
was
continued
support
as
we
build
the
Boston
Fire
Department.
I
would
also
like
to
thank
to
me
as
staff
and
the
Office
of
Budget
management
for
their
diligence
and
insight
as
we
prepared
the
FY
19
budget,
I
like
to
specifically
thank
Justin
Stuart,
Johanna,
Bernstein
and
David
Yurkovich
for
their
assistance.
B
I
would
also
like
to
thank
my
budget
team,
comprised
the
Deputy
Commissioner
of
administration,
finance,
Kathleen,
judge,
senior
budget
analyst
bills
I
in
analyst
and
donÃts
already
for
the
hard
work
they
put
into
this
year's
budget
and
I
would
like
to
thank
the
City
Council
for
your
continued
support
of
the
Boston
Fire
Department
and
for
holding
this
hearing
on
the
fire
department
budget.
If
I
could
I
just
going
to
deduce
a
few
people
sitting
with
me
at
the
tables.
B
Here
we
have
to
my
immediate
right:
chief
of
operations
for
Support
Services
John
Walsh
to
my
immediate
right
is
Deputy
Commissioner
Carney
Wong,
my
main
immediate
left
is
Deputy
Commissioner,
Kathleen,
judge
administration
of
Finance
in
to
my
far
left
is
deputy
chief
chief
of
operations,
Jerrod
Fontana
charge
of
field
operations.
The
FY
19
is
important
year
for
us
on
several
fronts.
First,
the
safety,
health
and
wellness
of
the
firefighters
means
my
primary
focus.
This
focus
ranges
from
purchase
of
new
apparatus,
renovating
and
rebuilding
our
fire
houses.
B
My
commitment
to
ensuring
the
safety
and
dignity
of
all
firefighters,
including
women
and
minorities,
especially
respect
to
intimidation
and
discrimination.
Since
2016
we've
replaced
34
frontline
apparatus
and
FY
19,
we
will
receive
three
more
engines
and
three
more
ladders,
which
will
leave
us
with
remaining
13
apparatus
that
will
need
to
be
replaced.
The
average
age
of
the
remaining
nine
engines
is
over
14
years.
In
the
remaining
four
ladders
of
over
nine
years.
B
We
also
recently
received
a
towel
a
de
towel
out
of
three
after
the
collapse
of
towel
out
of
ten,
we've
also
received
approval
to
replace
this
piece.
In
addition,
as
a
result
of
new
apparatus,
we've
been
able
to
revitalize
that
reserve
fleet.
If
our
replacement
of
firehouses
we
commonly
have
a
conceptual
design
complete
for
engine
40
to
rescue
to
in
the
Egleston
square
section
of
the
city,
we
hope
to
be
moved
them
to
their
temporary
site
in
the
fall
and
begin
construction
in
the
spring.
B
Tentative
schedule
highlights:
completion
in
rock
12
of
2020
renovations
for
engine
50
in
engine
5
continue.
We
hope
to
have
both
reopened
in
the
fall.
We
will
continue
to
make
progress
in
the
mission
to
find
ways
to
improve
overall
health
and
wellness
of
the
members.
We
have
successfully
industrial
cleaned
engine
companies
16.
We
have
been
very
happy
with
the
results
and
we
continue
the
cleaning
projects
with
additional
three
to
four
five
houses.
B
B
We
are
planning
another
recruit
class
in
a
fall
and
remain
committed
to
working
with
the
civil
service
to
identify
diverse
candidates.
The
last
class
hired
this
February
yielded
28
diverse
recruits
as
a
result
of
identifying
on
the
civil
service
list,
people
with
specific
and
second
languages
capabilities.
In
addition,
my
diversity
officer,
Juan
Sanchez,
continues
to
identify
interventions
in
schools,
military
crewmen
offices
and
other
teenage
venues
to
get
to
a
diverse
population
before
they
enter
into
the
military
service.
We're
hopeful
that
we
will
be
able
to
attract
diverse
recruits
after
returned
from
active
military
service.
B
B
Students,
Job
Shadow
prep
for
fire
exams
and
participate
in
the
fitness
challenge,
learn
about
fire
prevention
into
other
fire
houses
summer
explorers
response,
if
I
picked
and
the
PFD
parts
and
Fire
Department
credit
union
I
train
by
fire
department
members
to
reach
out
to
students
over
sick
week,
six
week
period
in
various
summer
camps
across
the
city,
to
educate
on
fire
safety
and
prevention.
We
also
have
a
high
school,
our
OTC
boot
camp,
a
program
to
reach
out
to
future
recruits
at
various
high
schools
about
job
opportunities
with
a
fitness
challenge.
B
At
the
end
of
each
session,
outreach
to
evolve
the
OTB
program,
the
Boston
Fire
Department
basketball
team
hosts
games
in
the
community
centers
and
teen
centers
with
an
after
game
question
answer
about
the
benefits
of
being
a
Boston
firefighter.
We
also
have
initiated
a
number
of
events
specific
to
the
veteran
community,
since
the
fire
department
is
restricted
by
state
law.
As
far
as
hiring
and
veteran's
preference.
We
have
the
soldier
for
Life
program
by
working
with
the
army
transition
counselors
to
try
qualified
individuals
for
internships
prior
to
take
the
exam,
pray.
B
B
You
have
read
the
media
reports
about
complaints
by
female
firefighters
regarding
the
work
environment
at
the
fire
department.
We
take
those
concerns
very
seriously:
Boston
Fire
Department's
committed
to
a
diversity
and
inclusion
in
its
work
for
us
minorities
and
women.
It
seeks
to
provide
all
its
employees
with
an
environment
that
is
welcoming,
respectful
and
free
of
any
harassment
in
a
discrimination
with
that
council
alternative
to
four
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
C
You
commissioner
Thank
You
counselor
as
well
Commissioner,
can
you
talk
about
the
health
and
wellness
program
as
it
relates
to
industrial
cleaning?
Is
that
the
program
where
you
thoroughly
clean
the
insides
of
the
firehouses
and
try
to
get
all
the
chemicals
out,
and
can
you
give
us
a
little
bit
of
background
on
job.
B
B
There
has
been
a
fire
house
built
in
the
city
since
nineteen
I
think
it's
all
for
25
years,
and
that
was
built
with
private
funds
as
a
three
P
partnership
for
the
engine,
tens
located
on
purchase
Street,
so
the
city
hasn't
built
a
fire
house
on
the
city
in
quite
some
time.
35
years
the
industrial
clean
cleaning
process
is
we
go
in.
We
locate
the
companies,
take
them
out
of
their
houses.
We
assign
them
to
different
other
houses
in
their
district
and
we
go
in
for
about
a
four
to
six
week
period
of
time.
B
We
industrial
clean
the
house
from
air
handling
systems,
ventilation
systems,
heating,
furnaces.
Anything
that
we
needs
to
be
clean
is
clean
steam,
clean
power
washed.
We
also
remove
all
permeable
materials,
whether
it's
couches
mattresses,
anything
that
it
could
be
contaminated.
We
remove
them
from
the
fire
house
and
then
we
go
in
and
do
we
paint
any
midst
any
surface
that
is
currently
painted.
We
can
win
and
paint
it
with
encapsulating
paint
to
seal
in
any
of
these
carcinogens
and
toxins
that
you
can
imagine
brought
back
for
many
many
years.
B
The
number
one
contributor
ones
in
the
firehouse
to
these
environments,
I,
would
tell
you
would
be
diesel
after
many
many
years.
Benzene
is
one
of
the
primary.
If
you
will
chemicals
that
are
toxins,
I
should
say
that's
produced
when
diesel
diesel
exhaust
and
it's
a
known
very
highly,
is
a
very
carcinogenic
material
and
we
have
diesel
recovery
systems
in
fire
houses
now
probably
for
about
20
years,
but
before
that
fire
houses
were
contaminated
throughout
years
and
years
of,
if
you
will
exposure.
B
C
Thank
you,
I
think.
That's
I
think
that's
critical
doing
that
it's
important
work,
just
as
an
example
I
the
opportunity
to
serve
in
them
in
the
Navy
for
25
years,
and
the
military
is
also
during
it.
Dealing
with
a
similar
issue
with
burn
pits.
Toxins
breathing
in
those
chemicals
throughout
the
Middle
East.
And
what
happens,
as
you
know,
is
when
these
returning
veterans
come
home.
You
know
their
health
is
deteriorating
because
of
you
know
being
exposed
to
chemicals
for
so
long,
a
period
of
time.
I'm
glad
that
you,
your
office,
is
doing
that.
C
B
There's
no
silver
bullet
in
all
this
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
contributing
to
why
the
fire
service
right
now
is
so
susceptible
to
these
toxins
and
carcinogens,
and
probably
the
number
one
thing
I
would
tell
you.
Two
things
are
the
fact
that
plastics
as
consumers,
everything
we
purchase
is
laced
with
plastics.
Everything
is
a
composite.
Everything
is
as
a
plastic
base
and
also
flame
retardants.
B
Flame
retardants
are
sold
by
the
chemical
industry
is
retired
flame
spread,
but
once
they
combust
they
give
up
these
highly
toxic
chemicals,
and
you
know
I
numbers
a
staggering
I
mean
we
have
members
that
are
literally
in
the
fight
for
their
life.
Right
now
we
had
one
fire:
the
site
power
plant
fire
in
South,
Boston,
I,
think
you're
very
familiar
with
died
on
first
in
summer,
Street
in
2002.
Over
the
course
of
two
days,
we
had
over
200
watts
and
firefighters,
respond
to
that
fire
and
of
those
200
watts
and
firefighters.
C
Commissioner,
I
also
noticed
when
a
firefighter
does
retire.
Does
it
seem
like,
even
after
just
a
few
years
of
retirement,
that
a
lot
of
firefighters
die
within
a
couple
years?
Maybe
it's
breathing
in
those
toxins
and
being
exposed
to
this
these
toxins
for
so
many
years,
it
just
seems
like
they.
They
die
almost
immediately
after
after
we
tie
him
and
unfortunately,
there's.
B
A
there's,
a
significant
number
of
firefighters
who
retire
and
within
the
first
five
years
of
their
retirement,
a
diagnosed
with
a
significant
cancer
we're
fortunate
in
Massachusetts.
We
have
a
cancer
presumptive
law.
It
needs
to
go
further.
We
need
to
push
legislature
legislators
on
this
topic.
We
have
currently
the
presumptive
law.
You
have
to
be
a
firefighter
for
five
years
to
be
eligible
and
you
have
five
years
post-retirement
we're
starting
to
see
firefighters,
who
there's
a
if
you
will
there's
a
there's,
a
gap
in
coverage.
B
So
if
you
stayed
to
the
age
of
65,
you
are
five
years
would
bring
you
to
age
74
for
coverage,
but
for
some
reason,
if
you
retire
at
age,
50
from
a
musculoskeletal
injury
or
so
on,
you
get
five
years.
You
have
garbage.
Free
coverage
is
age
55,
so
there's
a
significant
gap
and
where
we
need
to
have
that
legislation
and
through
the
PFF
M
local
718,
president
Paris
working
very
hard
to
try
to
close
that
gap
of
legislation
that
we
can
get
all
firefighters
covered
up
to
age.
75
years
post,
mandatory
retirement,
yeah.
C
A
B
A
It
should
because
it
is
a
crisis
without
question,
so
I'm
glad
that
I've
been
part
of
this
council
that
has
recognized
that
and
it
through
your
leadership.
The
mayor
has
tried
to
address
it,
at
least
to
the
best
of
our
ability
to
this
point,
and
we
need
to
do
more
so
Thank
You,
councillor,
clarity,.
D
B
Every
year,
so
with
the
2011
arbitration
of
what
the
city
of
any
firefighter
hired
after
that
date,
as
a
monetary
incentive,
a
1/2
percent
to
have
a
physical,
complete
physical,
they
do
they
go
to
their
own
doctor.
Their
doctor
has
to
fill
out
a
checklist
of
things
that
we
are
looking
for,
but
that's
just
that
small
demographic
I
think
we
need
to
be
working
on
that
larger
demographic.
B
The
entire
department
needs
to
go
for
these
annual
physicals
we've
attacked
this
problem
council
or
more
around
education
awareness
and
we're
starting
to
see
a
number
of
our
I
would
say.
Mid-Career
to
later
career,
firefighters
have
taken
advantage
of
some
of
that
stuff
and
really
pushing
getting
those
physicals
early.
I
have
to
take
my
hat
off
to
Dana.
Five
identify
was
working
with
us
around
that
group
at
the
site.
Powerplant
we're
trying
to
work
through
all
those
members.
B
D
Chemistry
obviously,
you've
to
pay
attention,
there's
an
increase
in
the
population
down
of
the
South
Boston
waterfront,
and
currently
dealing
with
an
issue
with
both
masse:
Borden
State
Police,
not
allowing
concurrent
jurisdiction
for
our
police.
So
in
the
in
a
situation
where
there's
a
fire
say
on
massport
property,
Massport
also
has
a
fire
department.
Are
they
getting
there?
We
we
do.
We
have
the
same
sort
of
turf
issues
with
on
the
fire
side
that
we
have
currently
on
the
police
side.
I.
B
Say
happily
not
we
actually
down
the
seaport
first
off,
they
have
no
presence
on
the
Seaport.
We
are
the
sole
provider
of
fire
service
in
the
city
of
Boston
at
the
airport.
They
do
have
mass
support,
Fire
Department,
which
deals
with
all
of
their
runway
in
issues
when
I
first
became
commissioner,
there
was
some
confusion
and
we
were
able
to
hash
out
an
agreement,
an
MoU
with
mass
port
fire
around
who
will
be
jurisdictionally
in
charge.
B
D
Know
with
under
your
leadership,
we've
made
some
significant
improvements
in
upgrades
with
our
apparatus,
as
well
as
as
you
referenced
when
you
onset
finally
seeing
the
building
of
new
fire
houses
and
also
the
complete
rehab
of
others.
Any
thought
been
given
to
a
location
down
around
the
South
Boston
waterfront
to
service
lots
of
new
buildings
and
big
buildings.
I
know
you
have
clearly
get
K
Street
and
D
Street
and
purchase
Street
best
purchase
trees.
Probably
with
is
the
is
the
closest
tower
unit.
D
B
There
I
think
the
demographic
and
the
population
is
going
to
demand
it.
To
be
honest,
with
the
way
it's
we're
starting
to
see
is
our
response.
Times
are
starting
to
decrease,
increase,
I
should
say
around
well,
which
used
to
be
just
rush
hour.
It
seemed
downtown
you
could
kind
of
pinpoint
rush-hour
and
know
that
it
was
gonna,
be
time
delays
getting
places.
Now
it
seems
like
why,
showers
all
day,
those
companies
that
respond
from
purchase
Street
down
into
the
Seaport
area,
especially
have
a
difficult
time
getting.
It
was
starting
to
see
their
response
times.
B
Increase
to
your
point.
Do
I
have
an
idea
about
a
location
council.
I
would
tell
you
this,
in
my
opinion,
I
believe
where
the
rotary
is
where
the
Genki
lobsters
I
would
think.
It'd
have
to
be
south
of
that.
Okay,
because
they
think
we're
and
again
we'd
have
to
look
at
GSI
mapping
and
run
some
computer
models
on
it,
but
I
think
that
would
be
the
area
that
would
probably
benefit
the
city
most
as
far
as
trying
to
keep
for
minute
response
time
in
that
area
of
the
city.
So
I
think
that
began
probably.
D
In
the
neighborhoods
concern
is
the
drawing
of
the
resources
from
both
casually
so
that
that's
an
important
piece
but
glad
to
know
that
you're
not
having
the
same
issues
that
that
our
police
department's
having
we
also
lost
in
the
previous
administration,
along
with
the
divestment
and
equipment
in
firing
houses.
We
also
lost
two
district
chief
positions.
So
I
talked
to
my
colleague
out
talking
about
the
concerns
about
the
West
Roxbury
lateral
gas
line,
coupled
with
you
know
around
a
hospital
area.
So
any
any
opportunity
to
to
have
a
conversation
while
restoring
the
two
district.
B
If
we
had
another
significant
event,
so
I
think
there's
certainly
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
that
and
I
think
that
those
consecutive
fires
highlighted
the
need
to
have
some
depth
on
the
bench
as
far
as
if
something
with
deploying
all
the
resources
we
as
far
as
districts
go-
and
you
know,
as
far
as
firing
ground
operations
go.
Safety
is
our
number
one
concern
to
fire
firefighters
and
we
put
a
lot
of
chiefs
on
the
fire
ground.
For
that
reason
and
which
leaves
areas
of
the
city.
D
The
future
and
for
my
colleagues
edification
I,
think
there
was
three
fires
on
or
around
the
same
time
kind
of
going
simultaneously
within
with
respect
to
the
West
Rockford
one.
My
colleagues
district
I
think
there
was.
There
was
gas
involved,
my
fueled
by
gas
was
there,
it
was
there
a
delay
in
a
district
chief,
getting
they
have
any
chance.
Cuz,
there's
no
district
chief
out.
B
Well,
that's
district
chief
who's
responsible
that
area
comes
from.
If
you
will
the
American
Legion
firehouse,
okay,
and
that
is
a
significant
distance
for
him
to
travel
to
get
there.
I
will
have
to
commend
the
members
of
the
first
arriving
companies
in
making
key
crucial
decisions
I'm
best
to
if
you
will
contain
that
fire,
because
theory
would
tell
me
that
that
fire
should
have
consumed
that
block,
because
it's
all
wood
frame,
no
sprinkler
systems
and
the
first
arriving
officers
make
crucial
decisions
about
where
they
placed
equipment.
B
D
But
you
had
three
things
going
on
at
the
same
time
and
it
was
so
I
don't
know
if,
like
if
that's
just
the
radio
I
was
listening
to
was
kind
of
getting
stepped
on
or
with
the
people
that
were
actually
calling
for
stuff
getting
stepped
on
and
again,
that's
a
that's
a
telecommunication
issue,
multiple
things
happening
at
the
same
time,
but
as
I
was
listening
just
as
a
sort
of
a
civilian
paying
attention
to
what
was
going
on.
Knowing
that
there
was
three
incidents.
D
Putting
two
of
them
and
then
kind
of
raging
at
the
same
time-
and
there
was
someone
you
could
hear
someone
yelling
in
the
background
charged
a
line
charge,
the
line
in
the
operator
was
trying
to
communicate
to
charge
the
line,
but
it
seemed
like
people
were
getting
stepped
on.
So
I
just
don't
know
whether
or
not
do
when
we
got
multiple
instance.
Are
we
supposed
to
be
on
different
stations
or
how
does
that
work?
From
your
perspective,.
B
We
have
multiple
channels
so
we'll
move
the
initial
primary
fire
ground
channel.
So
our
channel
one
is
everyday
communication
channel
channel
one.
We
have
a
significant
event,
especially
if
building
fire
hazmat
we
go
to
channel
two
would
be
for
that
event.
That
channel
is
dedicated
for
that
event
and
if
we
have
a
subsequent
event
that
goes
to
channel
three,
the
incident
commander
might
request
an
additional
channel
for
evacuation
to
have
people
work
and
off
that
to
try
to
eliminate
that's
stepping
on
and
stepping
on
people
I
got
to
tell
you.
B
I
probably
have
the
best
fire
dispatchers
in
the
country.
They've
been
noted
in
you
know
even
the
NIOSH
study
and
the
Beacon
Street
fire
went
out
of
their
way
to
make
sure
they
recognized
the
fire
alarm,
division
and
those
operators.
They
did
a
good
job,
controlling
the
radio
traffic
and
picking
up.
As
you
said,
council,
what
is
what
is
critical
and
what
is
more
routine
and
they
do.
D
A
good
job
and
I
what
I
do
notice
is
they're
very
clear,
they're,
very
succinct
in
terms
of
getting
the
commands
and
said
so
they
so
firearm
does
an
excellent
job.
I
just
said:
no,
if
it
was
the
app
that
I
had
that
I
kind
of
had
multiple
traffic,
maybe
as
a
tie-in
into
all
three
in
the
versus
those.
Three
different
situations
were
happening
on
three.
B
E
F
D
B
Dan
first
all
apparatus
responding
to
switch
to
channel
two,
so
they
switch
everybody
immediately
if
they
got
something
tuned
great
to
a
different
file.
Our
Channel
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
happy
dealing
with
becomes.
It
happens
to
me.
Sometimes
when
I'm
on
channel
one
you
live
miscommunication
and
occasionally
you'll
have
a
company
officer,
not
change
the
channel
right
away
and
he'll
be
on
channel
one.
D
Then,
on
the
app
you
can
see,
the
number
of
people
signing
on
cuz
people
know
there's
something
going
on
or
it's
the
sparkies
they're
just
kind
of
tuning
in,
but
it
starts
with
like
60
and
it
wasn't
like
400
people
and
so
they're
all
on
the
same
map.
Yeah,
that's
what
I
was
gonna
get
some
interference.
D
A
G
You
very
much
I
was
cheering
thanks
chief
fin
and
everybody
for
coming
here.
One
of
my
favorite
hearings
that
we
get
to
go
through
in
my
opinion
anyway.
I
want
to
thank
Richie,
Paris,
Bobby,
petit
II,
of
course,
and
the
new
face
and
voice
of
the
Boston
Fire
Department
Max
and
is
doing
a
nice
job,
and
you
know
I
see
mark
on
the
on
the
news
whenever
anything
is
happening,
very
well-spoken
and
very
well
represented.
G
So
thanks
as
far
as
the
my
question
has
really
been
covered,
a
lot
with
the
health
of
wearing
a
health
and
wellness,
obviously
near
and
dear
to
me,
the
capital
plan
were
in
the
middle
of
the
five-year
strategic
plan.
I've
said
in
many
of
the
hearings,
whether
there's
public
works
or
transportation
or
Parks
Department.
This
administration
is
doing
a
really
nice
job
at
refocusing
on
the
capital
aspect
of
it.
It's
you
know
the
men
and
women
with
boots
on
the
ground.
They
can't
do
the
job
unless
they
have
the
proper
equipment.
G
It's
just
as
simple
as
that.
So
you
just
get
a
little
I
know.
You
were
talking
about
some
of
the
the
newer
you
and
I
briefly
talked
about
council
Flaherty's
line
of
questioning
council
Flynn's
line
of
questioning
about
the
South
Boston
impossibly
saving
us
some
money
by
recreating
the
deal
we
had
on.
You
know
the
tower
unit
on
birches
tree.
There's
enough
building
going
on
over
there,
not
only
house
a
firehouse
but
a
police
station,
or
at
least
a
satellite
police
station,
as
well
as
an
EMS
station.
G
B
I
H
We
also
have
will
be
completing
engine
50,
which
is
a
renovation,
and
we
also
have
plans
for
engine
33
for
some
renovations
there
as
well
and
we'll
be
finishing
up
as
the
Commissioner.
Its
head
said
that
Engine
5
will
be
completed
in
the
fall
as
well
we're
currently
working
with
the
Boston
city's
housing
lab.
That
is
looking
at
the
replacement
of
fire
houses
using
the
p3
concept.
So
we've
just
started
that
process
and
had
a
few
meetings
already
with
some
developers,
which
was
just
a
QA.
E
Good
afternoon
it's
gonna
speak
a
little
bit
under
42
we've
been
working
about
a
year
and
a
half.
Now
with
the
engineers,
the
conceptual
plan
so
complete
the
architectural
plans
we've
done.
We
we
took
into
cancer
theme
and
all
of
it
with
the
hot,
warm
and
cold
zones,
which
is
a
lot
different
than
we
do
business
now,
firefighters
will
come
back.
Have
they
get
cleaned
to
go
to
a
assembly
line?
Taking
the
gear
off?
E
Put
it
in
the
washer
touch
geo
cleaner,
take
off
all
the
gear
we
segregated
the
areas
from
cold
zone
will
be
with
the
living
quarters.
Hot
zone
would
be
where
the
firefighters
coming
with
their
gear
and
the
WOM
zone
be
anywhere
in
between
42
is
we're.
Trying
to
move
out
of
there
in
the
summer
is
now
the
plans
we're
going
to
relocate
our
rescue
to
two
jaw.
Chester
we're
still
discussing
that
Anja
42
in
district
9
are
going
to
be
relocated
to
a
lot
on
Atherton
Street
we're
gonna
have
a
mobile
firehouse
there.
E
It's
only
3/10
of
a
mile.
We
plan
to
have
some
neighborhood
meetings
before
that
to
discuss
and
let
neighbors
know
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
doing
it.
Why
we're
doing
it
right
now,
the
age
of
42,
if
we
close
it
down
in
June
of
July,
scheduled
to
open
in
September
of
2020,
it's
just
the
process
that
it
is
engine
17
we've
been
working
on
that
not
as
long
about
a
year
with
we
have
a
firehouse
committee
discussing
it
with
the
engineers
that
depends
on
the
final
design.
E
E
G
You
my
last
question,
would
coming
off
no
all
right.
My
last
question,
commissioner:
we'd
talked
a
couple
years
ago
about
the
fire
Titan
issue.
Where
are
we
with
the
state
and
what
can
we
do
to
continue
to
help
you
to
to
change
legislation
to
to
bring
those
the
chemicals
out
of
the
the
the
sprayed
chemicals
that
we
had
talked
about
during
those
hearings.
B
B
If
you
will,
if
you
will
modern-day
furnishing
something,
you
typically
find
in
a
TV
room
or
den
in
your
own
home,
and
then
they
do
right
next
door
in
another
lab
they
do
a
burn
of
what
you
typically
find,
what
they
call
legacy
furniture
something
that
thirty
years
ago,
the
modern-day
furnishing
reaches
flashover
in
three
minutes
under
three
minutes,
which
flashover
is
full
room
involvement
and
the
reason
it
reaches
that
quickly
is
because
of
the
plastics
because
of
nothing.
But
if
you
will
liquefy
petroleum
products
plastics.
B
The
polymer
is
the
chemical
content
of
it
if
you
compare
it
to
the
room
burn
of
the
material
from
30
years
ago,
that
room
sustains
fire
for
almost
30
minutes.
So
my
I
talked
about
this
quite
a
bit
my
logic
on
it.
If
the
chemical
industry
and
the
Flaming
times
are
doing
such
a
good
job,
why
we
reaching
flashover
in
three
minutes
for
us
is
30
minutes.
It's
a
very
logical
question
that
they
can't
seem
to
answer
yet
they
want
to
pursue
embedding
and
impregnating
more
material
with
some
of
these
carcinogens
and
toxins.
B
So
there's
a
national
movement
around
the
council,
so
hopefully
we're
going
to
be
on
board
we're
going
to
be
pushing
it,
but
I
also
have
to
take
into
consideration,
as
you
know,
the
fire
Commission
of
the
City
of
Boston
Public
Safety,
and
as
far
as
we're
not
compromising
public
safety,
we
have
at
least
we
have
redundant
a
back-up
plan
if
we
stop
removing
chemicals
that
were
requiring
more
sprinkle
detection
quicker,
sprint
quicker,
acting
sprinklers
and
things
like
that
to
want
do
that's.
What's,
there's
gonna
be
a
balance,
but
I
certainly
need
that.
F
What
you
do
every
day
and
I
wanted
to
express
personal
gratitude
for
your
bravery
and
in
battling
the
tread
mark.
Fire
I
live
in
the
Corinth
across
the
street
and
it
was
a
tense
and
frightening
time
for
everyone.
My
family,
like
many,
was
displaced
and
I
just
wanted
to.
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
wanted
to
pick
up
on.
F
B
Certainly,
that
is
becoming
on
the
national
level
and
fire
service,
a
paramount
concern.
The
status
see
firefighters
taking
their
own
lives
at
an
increasing
rate.
The
IFF,
the
internationalisation
firefighters,
has
actually
opened
up
a
Center
in
Maryland,
but
firefighters
in
goal
and
seek
treatment
more
locally.
What
we're
doing
we
have
on-call
psychologists,
we
have
fitness
with
duty.
We
have
a
robots
dat
program,
probably
the
best
program
in
the
country.
We
have.
B
Assistance
program-
and
we
also
have
a
peer
support
network
where
we
firefighters,
can
reach
out
to
their
peers
and
talk
because
much
like
I
think
anybody
you.
You
want
to
talk
to
people
who
actually
know
what
you're
talking
about
so
the
peer
support
network
that
we
have
and
it's
incipient
stage
and
fight
if
I'm
I
think
it's
gonna,
be
some
good
fruit.
I
think
people
actually
talk
to
talk
about.
What's
going
on.
The
traumatic
instance
is
seeing
the
PTSD
that
they're
suffering
from
so
I
believe
that's
gonna
really
be
some
good
for
us
right.
F
B
We,
if
we
have
a
dramatic
incident
loss
of
life,
it
is,
if
you
will
tragedy,
we
happen
to
lose
whether
it's
a
firefight
or
civilian.
We,
if
you
will
dispatch
the
equipments
and
stress
management
team
and
the
peer
support
group,
took
a
win
in
work
with
those
members.
Try
to
get
them
to
talk
for
it.
I
think
that's
the
best
way.
You
can
approach
that
and
we
have
professional
help
that
we
have
on
contract
psychologists,
a
number
of
psychologists.
B
We
can
refer
people
to
and
again
the
Employee
Assistance
Program
I
mean
you
know
you
look
at
this
opiate
crisis
right,
we're
no
different
than
the
rest
of
society.
So
we
have
issues.
Okay
and
I
would
tell
you
that
Employee
Assistance
Program
is
working
through
that,
along
with
all
of
the
counseling
we
have
available.
So
I
get
a
very
robust
system
for
people
safety.
Nuts,
if
you
will
to
get
people
help
they
need
self
identifying,
is
certainly
helpful
and
then
occasionally,
when
you
have.
F
B
Surprisingly,
no
one
wants
to
be
told
they
have
a
problem
right,
but
we
do
is
people
if
you
will
do
training
with
our
company
officers
and
our
chief
officers
to
identify
potential
at-risk
firefighters
and
we
refer
them.
Although
you
know
we
get
them
into
the
right.
Helping
NATO
will
dispatch
who
we
need
to
to
have
a
conversation.
So
I
think
that
our
program
is
very
good
and
I.
We
have
this
collaboration
between
718
Boston,
firefighters,
APA
people.
It
was
probably
one
of
the
oldest
in
the
countries.
It's
it's
the.
F
F
And
I'm
not
sure
that
I
caught
in
my
copious
note
taking
there
how
many
psychologists
we're
talking
about
and
what
is
the
breakdown
of
that,
because
you
know
we've
all
verbally
expressed
a
commitment
and
there
are
some
efforts
that
have
been
made
internally
to
have
a
force
that
is
more
representative
along
gender
and
race
and
language
lines.
And
so,
when
it
comes
to
behavioral
health
I
just
wanted
to
inquire
about.
F
You
know
one
of
the
ways
that
we
help
to
grow
the
forces
for
people
to
feel
that
that
it
is
a
safe
place
for
them
and
when
people
don't
feel
safe
or
when
they
feel
vulnerable,
and
that
could
be
after
a
fire
or
for
many
other
reasons.
Are
there
any
psychologists
that
are
female
or
that
are
of
color
just.
B
B
F
B
B
If
there's
an
issue
in
a
firehouse
so
naturally
to
the
more
traditional
paramilitary
through
the
chain
of
command,
you
can
report
it.
You're
gonna,
be
put
through
to
Ohi
directly.
You
can
call
City
Hall
directly
EEOC
MCAD,
wherever
you
can
make.
You
are
concerns
known
and
certainly,
if
you
feel
you've
been
discriminated
harassed,
I
want
to
know
about
it,
because
I
have
a
zero
tolerance
for
that
I.
F
People
that
are
charged
with
keeping
our
Public
Safety
could
feel
so
unsafe
and
that's
why
I
want
to
better
understand
what
are
the
reporting
protocols
the
this
is
under
an
investigation
and
so
we'll
be
very
closely
monitoring
that,
but
I
wanted
to
understand.
Is
it
am
I
correct
in
my
recollection
that,
in
order
to
file
a
report
to
get
to
the
point
of
even
an
investigation,
you
said
the
chain
of
command?
Is
there
some
sort
of
form
that
has
to
be
signed
by
men?
No.
B
That
is
just
one
way,
I
mean,
certainly
in
a
you
know,
council,
if
you're
in
a
firehouse,
and
you
have
a
supervisor,
you
would
like
to
make
them
aware
that
there's
a
problem
I
would
think
if
they're
uncomfortable
doing
that,
you
can
report
it
directly
to
fire
Cuates,
come
and
see
the
HR
director
Deputy
Commissioner
Wong,
come
in
with
concerns.
We've
had
a
number
of
people,
male
and
female,
come
in
with
direct
concerns
about
harassment
of
potential
harassment.
Our
personality
issues
are
not
being
able
to
get
along;
whatever
they
come
in
then
is.
F
B
F
You're
curious
because
you
know
oftentimes,
we
find
there
are
repeat
offenders,
so
you
know
so
I
just
be
curious
as
to
are
there
are
there
trends
and
patterns?
You
know
one
firehouse
over
another
one
person
over
another
and
just
again
it
is
so
important
that
everyone
feels
safe
in
their
workplace.
So
having
that
clarity
on
the
number
a
lot,
the
numbers
allow
us
that
data
to
be
more
collectively
accountable
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
intentional
about
making
a
safe
place.
So
those
are
numbers
you
could
give
me
right
now,
but
could
you
yeah.
B
Is
just
one
Avenue,
you
know
this
just
one
Avenue
again,
this
is
I,
have
an
open
door
policy
and
anyone,
regardless
of
race,
ethnicity,
female
male,
can
come
to
my
office
and
have
a
discussion
with
me
I'm,
not
so
much.
If
you
will
that
stand
back
as
commissioner
I
make
myself
available
to
everybody,
so
they
can
come
and
have
a
conversation
which
a
number
have
so,
but
there
is
that
formal
process
of
put
make.
You
know,
notifying
your
immediate
superior,
that
there
is
an
issue,
so
he
can
take
the
appropriate
steps.
Meeting
superiors.
F
B
F
B
F
B
I
will
tell
you
when
last
year
we
had
a
number
of
fires
that
I
would
we
attributed
to
chaos
disposal
some
of
those
fires.
This
past
on
two
weekends
ago,
when
we
had
those
multiple
fires,
there,
leaning
too
careless
disposal
but
I,
think
people
have
become
more
aware
of
and
that's
why
we're
starting
to
see
a
lot
of
larger
fighters
around
it?
Is
people
don't
smoke
in
their
home?
No
more
they'll
go
out
in
the
back.
Porch.
B
Have
this
cigarette
flicked
the
but
down
below
in
whether
there's
leaves
and
debris
and
things
that
gather
underneath
the
porch
it'll
sit
and
smolder,
and
then
we
start
to
see
these
rear
porch
fires
and
these
fires
that
start
to
develop
externally
the
house
and
make
their
way
in
so,
sadly
to
say
we're
starting
to
see
an
uptick
in
smoking
killers
disposal,
smoke
materials.
We.
F
So
I
wanted
to
just
better
understand
the
scope
of
your
responsibilities.
It's
my
recollection
that
the
budget
for
your
office
in
its
entirety
is
just
your
salary,
which
does
not
allow
for
resources
for
marketing
and
outreach
and
other
things.
So
I
just
wanted
to
better
understand
your
role
and
I
think
you've
been
on
for
two
years
now.
Two.
J
Is
like
what
do
I
begin,
so
my
job
is
to
defer
the
diversity.
Recruitment
officer
is
obviously
to
recruit
diversity,
minorities
in
the
department,
with
the
focus
on
military
veterans,
because
that's
kind
of
the
fastest
way
we
can
get
a
quick
turnout
in
terms
of
changing
the
numbers
in
diversity.
As
far
as
outreach,
we
do
a
lot
of
outreach
within
the
schools.
F
J
Someone
yeah
it's
a
short
program:
it's
with
ABCD
different
requirements,
obviously
with
ABCD,
and
we
do
a
lot
of
military
outreach.
We
have
a
partnership
with
the
military
transition
counselors
to
try
to
identify
specific.
You
know,
minorities
and
people
from
the
city
itself,
so
to
really
narrow
it
down
to
you
know,
help
us
out
with
our
diversity
outreach
we've
been
pretty
consistent
in
the
community
as
far
as
I'll
reach,
with
our
you
programs,
and
also
just
going
out
to
high
schools
and
career
fairs
and
job
fairs.
J
J
Work
with
Commissioner
sterling
a
lot
with
a
little
bunch
of
her
events
and
just
a
basic
military,
recruit
military.
There's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
hiring
group
called
hiring
our
vets,
hiring
our
veterans
and
then
there's
another
group
called
recruit
military
and
those
are
really
focused
around.
You
know
every
specific
city
whenever
they
come
into
those
those
cities.
Specifically,
they
kind
of
reach
out
to
all
those
groups,
specifically.
F
K
You
so
much
mr.
chair,
Thank
You,
commissioner
into
your
team,
for
all
the
work
that
you
do.
I
survived
a
fire
and
I
know
how
scary
that
is
having
been
in
the
house
at
the
time.
Thinking
I
had
plenty
of
time
to
get
out
that
I
could
go
back
and
get
items
that
I
cared
about
like
photo
albums
and
I.
Certainly
don't
recommend
that
I
think
we
all
underestimated
how
quickly
fire
moves.
My
sister
had
a
fire
22
years
ago
was
displaced.
I
was
displaced.
K
My
mom
just
had
one
six
years
ago,
was
displaced
11
days
into
me.
Being
sworn
in,
there
was
a
major
fire
in
my
district
down
deadly
a
commercial
district.
It
was
during
rush
hour.
It
was
two
three
days
after
a
major
you
know
storm
so
I
know.
You
know
that
there
are
several
challenges
that
your
department
has
to
deal
with.
I
can't
imagine
running
into
a
burning
building,
having
seen
fire
up
close
and
personal,
so
I
do
appreciate
the
work
that
you're
doing
I'm
currently
trying
to
support
a
family
that
was
just
displayed.
K
Building
upon
some
of
the
questions
we
heard,
it
was
encouraging
to
hear
you
talk
about
the
physical
health
of
a
fire
department
and
I
heard
some
questions
around
the
mental
health
that
many
of
our
firefighters
experienced
the
same
things
that
others
in
the
larger
population
experience
and
I'm
wondering
if
you've
also
seen
an
increase
around
substance,
abuse
a
recovery
and
what
kind
of
supports
are
in
place
for
firefighters,
who
may
be
struggling
with
those
types
of
issues.
Certainly.
B
Having
suffered
and
gone
through
a
fire
so
last
weekend,
two
weekends
ago
now
significant
fire,
a
three-month
of
all
homes,
go
at
the
same
time,
significant
as
Council
of
Flowery
mentioned.
You
can
tell
the
urgency
and
the
radio
receiving
calls
people
trapped
and
so
on.
I
will
tell
you
this
that
the
the
Boston
Fire
Department
it
compared
to
our
national
people
of
comparable
size
and
cities,
whether
it's
Baltimore
Denver.
B
You
start
looking
at
size
in
population
up
until
in
2017
up
until
December
2017,
we
had
suffered
zero
civilian
fire
deaths
in
the
city
we
had
tragic
firemen
or
not.
Then
we
lost
to
people
just
before
Christmas
that
yeah.
When
you
look
at
our
counterparts
across
the
country-
and
that
is
a
trend
in
it
and
then
why
I
talk
about
it
is
it's
a
trend
because
of
the
way
we
fight
fires
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
I
have
to
thank
my
predecessors
on
how
we
fight
fire
in
the
city
of
Boston.
B
We
come
in
hard
and
fast
on.
First
and
second
alarms
we
get
the
necessary
resources
on
the
ground
and
tactically,
we
do
and
we
got
a
lot
of
challenging
neighborhoods.
If
you
can
imagine,
Beacon
Hill,
North
and
South
Boston
Roxbury
had
some
very
challenging
neighbors,
very
congested
area,
very
densely
populated.
Just
to
give
you
a
couple
numbers
off
the
top
so
2017,
as
I
mentioned,
we
lost
two
individuals,
civilian
fight,
that's
2016,
we
lost
for
2015,
we
lost
three
okay.
B
Do
that
comparison
with
Baltimore,
very
similarly
sized
situated
city
population
wise
2017,
they
had
28
fire
deaths
2016
they
had
16
fire
deaths
in
15.
They
had
18
fire
deaths.
You
look
at
Denver
Denver
that
same
period
of
time
had
in
2015
had
25
deaths,
2016
12
fire
deaths,
2017
18
fire
deaths,
so
the
city
of
Boston
is
well
served
as
far
as
response
than
that.
I
just
felt
the
need
to
kind
of
let
you
know
exactly
where
we
sit
with
our
peers
as
far
as
how
we
combat
fire
in
the
city
of
Boston.
B
As
far
as
the
substance
issues,
I
think
we're
reflective,
Society,
I
think
I.
Think
we've
all
realized
that
this
opiate
crisis
is
leaves
no
one
behind.
It
causes
all
economic,
social,
economic
lines,
and
that
includes
Boston,
firefighters
and
we're
working
through
that
we,
like
I,
mentioned.
We
have
a
very
robust
employees,
Assistance
Program.
B
We
have
a
drug
testing
policy,
we
have
random
drug
testing
and
we
want
people
to
be
rehabilitated
and
we
have
a
program
around
rehabilitation
that
gets
people
back,
hopefully
gets
them
clean
and
then
getting
back
to
work,
and
we
certainly
want
to
be
helpful
and
have
you
got
so?
We
do
have
a
pretty
robust
program
and
but
again
I
just
emphasize
the
fact
that
you
know
we're
reflective
of
society.
We
do
have
our
issues,
thank
goodness
they're,
not
major
issues,
but
we
do
have
our
issues
and.
K
K
We
see
that
often
in
our
city
and
I'm
wondering
what
what
so
you've
kind
of
highlighted
for
us
that
people
can
go
through
the
chain
of
command
or
report
to
HR.
If
there's
an
incident,
when
these
things
do
happen,
is
there
communication
that
goes
out
to
again
affirm
what
you've
said
here,
which
is
that
there
is
ZERO
tolerance
for
these
issues.
Does
that
go
out
to
to
everyone?
What
happens
around
the
communication?
People.
B
So,
every
year
people
have
to
if
you
will
go
online
and
go
through
the
city's
policies
around
you
know:
safe
work
environments,
we
have
our
own
1841
rule,
1841,
that's
previewed
by
everybody.
They
have
to
go
on
to
acknowledge
it.
We
have
a
safe
workplace,
anti-harassment
policies
at
the
city,
we're
in
the
process
right
now
who
HR
in
the
city
level
of
a
child
that
were
making
sure,
while
our
members
go
online
and
complete
those
policies
and
understanding
have
a
clear
understanding
of
it.
We've
done
a
lot
of
training
around
the
topic.
L
Yes,
thank
you
counselor.
We
have
done
a
lot
of
training
in
the
last
couple
years
since
Commissioner
Finn
took
over
as
fire
commissioner
for
the
City
of
Boston
Fire
Department
in
2015.
We
started
a
lot
of
training
over
conflict
and
confrontation,
not
only
in
the
fire
houses,
but
we
also
did
that
for
the
civilians
in
2016,
we
did
additional
training
on
diversity
and
implicit
bias,
and
also
harassment.
We
had
both
someone
from
the
city
hall
come
over
and
what.
L
In
2016
we
had
the
city
come
over
and
do
a
refresher
for
all
the
Chiefs
on
harassment
and
discrimination
in
2017.
We
repeated
that
and
we
brought
in
an
outside
entity
to
talk
to
the
Chiefs,
even
more
about
diversity
issues
and
on
implicit
bias
issues,
and
we
have
what
we
call
fire
college
each
January
and
that's
just
to
bring
in
all
the
lieutenant's
and
all
the
captains,
every
single,
lieutenant
and
Captain,
and
give
them
a
refresher
on
a
lot
of
different
department
policies.
And
this
past
January.
L
And
we
started
this
last
fall
in
some
firehouses
out
in
the
field.
But
in
January
we
repeated
it
and
we
actually
reviewed
the
city's
policy
and
the
department's
of
respectful
workplace
policies
to
every
single
lieutenant
and
captain
and
I
am
in
the
process.
Right
now
of
working
with
the
new
female
liaison
and
my
HR
director
trying
to
develop
further
curriculum
and
how
we
can
roll
it
out
to
not
just
all
the
Chiefs,
but
on
the
lieutenants
and
captains
and
all
members
of
the
people.
K
I
think
that
would
be
important.
I
would
just
echo
the
concerns
that
it's
very,
very
important
for
all
of
our
firefighters
to
feel
safe
on
the
job
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
their
job
effectively.
I'm
concerned
that
some
of
our
women,
firefighters,
do
not
feel
safe.
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
safe.
I
think
that
these
issues
these
training.
This
is
an
ongoing
thing,
so
making
sure
that
this
continues
to
happen,
and
not
just
with
the
ranking
officers,
but
making
sure
that
all
firefighters
have.
L
Nurses
and
we're
very
cognizant
of
it,
that's
why
we
are
moving
forward
developing
it
and
it
actually
was
something
that's
in
the
pipeline,
even
prior
to
all
the
globe.
Articles
that
we
were
thinking
of.
How
can
we
roll
it
out
to
reach
every
single
member
of
the
department,
and
that
is
something
that
we're
working
on?
It
won't
happen
overnight,
but
I
think
we
are
headed
in
the
right
direction
and.
K
J
E
K
M
You,
mr.
chairman
and
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
Commissioner
Finn
I
this
this
marks
my
eighth
year
on
the
council,
believe
it
or
not,
I'm
going
to
be
the
grisly
old,
veteran
and
I
think
you
and
your
team
and,
most
importantly,
the
men
and
women
of
the
Boston
Fire
Department
things
have
never.
Things
have
never
been
better.
M
Admittedly,
there
are
issues
and
want
to
thank
the
two
prior
speakers
and
Thank
You
Deputy
Commissioner
for
the
good
work.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
every
firefighter
feels
supported
as
resources
and
particularly
some
of
the
horrific
we
read
about,
but
I've
been
very
just
impressed
in
terms
of
operations
in
terms
of
responsiveness.
I
was
at
the
scene
of
the
fire
in
West
Roxbury
last
Saturday
as
two
Saturdays
ago.
M
M
B
Wish
I
had
the
answer,
yeah
I
would
say:
there's
some
of
that
I
think
the
population
growth
potential
I
think
you've,
seeing
I
mean
look
at
new
construction.
Councilor
Pressley
mentioned
the
tread
mark.
Builders
yeah
that
was
you
know,
was
a
pretty
horrific
fire
for
us
know
those
buildings
by
you
know
in
my
opinion,
of
every
dangerous
buildings
and
there's
a
ton
of
them
going
up
in
the
city
they're
all
these
podium
constructed
buildings
I.
B
Think
president,
the
significant
fire
hazard,
especially
whether
under
construction
when
they
are
completed,
they're
relatively
safe
and
they
rely
solely
on
sprinkle
protection.
They
substitute,
if
you
will,
mass
with
geometry,
so
we're
not
getting
a
strong
building
components
but
I
think
there's
a
whole
host
of
things
and
every
emergence
of
cigarette
smoking
again
smoking
materials
I
think
there's
a
whole
host
of
things
that
are
contributing
to
it.
Yeah
it's
interesting.
M
M
M
H
Those
are
the
transitional
career
steps.
We
don't
have
any
of
the
collective-bargaining,
yet
we're
still
in
negotiation.
So
that's
that's
not
there
and
yes,
the
revolving
funds.
Actually
two
of
our
revolving
funds
were
discontinued.
So
when
we
do
get
reimbursed
for
any
events
like,
for
example,
the
Hyde
Park
natural
gas
explosion,
we
did
get
monies
from
National
Grid
to
about
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
mostly
all
of
our
foam
that
we
use-
and
that
goes
back
into
the
general
fund,
mostly.
M
M
Good,
how
do
you
find
work?
I,
don't
wanna
go
off
on
a
tangent,
but
given
the
proliferation
of
gas
leaks
and
and
as
we
can
see
the
the
what
can
come,
what
can
the
effect
of
those
be?
How
do
you
work
with
the
utilities
in
terms
of
addressing
those
to
prevent
further
explosions,
or
god
forbid,
deaths
and
fires.
B
B
B
Digits
over
New
Year's,
Eve,
New,
Year's
Day
in
a
couple
days
after,
if
we
that
fire
was
20
yards
in
either
direction,
we
would
have
a
serious
problem
Wow
because
it
was
just
probably
perfectly
located
with
a
vacant
lot
right
in
front
of
it
yeah.
We,
you
had
probably
three
or
four
three
Decker's
to
the
right,
and
you
had
apartment
complex
to
the
left.
E
B
Of
heat
in
those
sub-zero
temperatures,
so
it
was
a
prudent
decision
to
do
that.
Gas
fires
in
his
most
recent
one
is
certainly
concerning
to
me
I
want
you
know
waiting
patiently
for
the
investigation
to
go
back
and
tell
us
what
it
looks
like,
but
gasifiers
really
worried
about
when
they
occur
there
pretty
significant
show
you
know
and.
M
B
Tell
you
this
in
on
in
high
POC,
we
had
a
great
collaboration
with
them
on
where
we
were
with
that,
because
we
we
deferred
to
some
of
their
engineers.
They
bring
us
some
solutions
before
we
decided
whether
we're
going
to
extinguish
the
fire
shut
it
down
or
not.
I
would
tell
you
in
rest
rocks
be
a
little
bit
different
story
because
they
couldn't
locate
the
shut-off
immediately.
That
area
was
they
had
no
records
of
what
was
in
the
development.
B
We
will
look
at
the
gate,
boxes,
gate
boxes,
a
shutoff
on
the
street
that
we
can
actually
shut
the
gas
off
to
a
specific
building.
We
had
a
hard
time
locating
and
we
actually
did
not
locate
the
gate
box.
We
were
just
kind
of
bless
that
National
Grid,
the
street
crews
are
great.
The
street
crew,
one
of
the
most
seasoned
members
of
their
cruel
thought.
M
E
M
E
E
E
M
M
E
M
Then
thank
you
for
that
and
then
finally,
this
is
probably
for
you.
Cathy
I
noticed
and
the
line
item
got
a
line
item
52
five,
zero,
zero
garbage
waste
removal
seems
to
fluctuate
very
dramatically
in
16.
It
was
$50,000
193
and
seventeen
eighty-seven
thousand
last
year
and
then
up
to
274
just
curious.
Why
is
it
so
inconsistent.
M
M
M
You
it
should
I
mean
we
want
to
you,
know:
I,
don't
need
to
tell
you
guys
some
of
the
statistics.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
our
men
and
women
who
serve
us,
you
know,
are
protected
and
we
address
this
I
was
just
curious
more
than
anything
else.
Thank
you
all
for
the
great
work
you
do.
We're
really
proud
of
you.
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman.
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
first
I
got
to
work
with
your
department
when
I
was
deputy
director
of
the
office
of
housing.
Stability
in
our
immediate
response
to
fires
resulted
in
us
for
creating
these
fire
cards.
I
think
there
in
multilingual,
multi
several
languages,
four
languages
and
you
guys
were
great
about
getting
that
out
to
the
communities.
I
think
you
even
took
some
with
you,
along
with
the
Red
Cross,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you
are
immediately
streamlining
people
to
prevent
them
from
being
displaced.
So
thank
you.
I
So
much
I
also
represent
he's
Boston
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
the
capital
investment
in
that
station
over
in
East
Boston
and
also
in
Charlestown,
as
well
with
who
I
also
represent,
but
I
wanted
to
pick
up
on
the
line
of
questioning
concerning
what
we've
not
only
read
in
the
globe,
but
I
think
is,
is
really
endemic
of
what
we
a
tough
conversation
that
needs
to
happen.
If
I'm
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
it's
16
women
in
total,
that's.
B
I
B
I
B
I
B
Think
there's
a
few
issues
I
think
I
would
go
around.
The
strengthen
agility
test
could
be
a
barrier
this
past
this
past.
The
exam
we
only
had
I
believe
was
59
females,
we'll
actually
signed
up
for
the
exam,
and
that
does
not
automatically
I
mean
when
you
say,
59
females
depending
what
they
score
and
that's
not
even
considering
if
they
got
through
the
ALP
at
the
second
portion
of
the
exam
okay.
So
that
was
just
a
written
portion
of
the
exam.
B
We
do
not
have
a
list
yet
so
the
interesting
to
see
with
how
they
fear.
If
you
will
once
they've
gone
through
the
L
patent
and
who
was
advanced
out
of
that
59
who've
completed
the
physical
agility
test,
and
then
I
would
tell
you
it
where
they
land
on
the
list,
as
far
as
if
they
have
a
preference
in
terms.
B
I
So
when
I
I
am
pleased
to
see
that
you
have
when
you
have
when
you're,
when
you
put
your
minds
to
it
and
you're
intentional
about
the
training,
training
and
resources
to
provide
for
your
firefighters,
it
gets
done,
and
so
I'm
I'm
really
wondering
about
how
intentional
you
are
about
getting
women
in
the
fire
department.
Well,.
B
I
would
tell
you
I
personally,
very
intent.
I
would
tell
you
that
I
operate
under
civil
service
system.
Okay,
I
do
not
have
the
ability
to
select
who
I
would
like
to
hire
when
we
are
gonna
put
a
class
on
I
request.
A
list
from
the
state
and
I
cannot
deviate
from
that
list
and
I
have
to
hire
from
that
list.
Do.
I
You
partner
with
or
work
with,
I
think
it's
the
International
Association
of
Women
fire.
Do
you
and
have
you
partnered,
with
I've,
seen
the
trades,
for
example,
who
also
have
an
issue
with
diversity
work
as
young
as
with
partnering
of
middle
schools
and
high
schools,
and
making
sure
that
their
presence
is
known
and
getting
them
prepared
for
and
getting
them
excited
about
being
firefighters.
So.
B
A
J
The
teen
Academy,
we
made
sure
to
include
a
young
woman
as
well.
It's
definitely
something
that
we're
looking
forward
to
initiate
Mari
and
and
be
more
present,
and
also
with
that
recruitment
effort
this
past
year,
before
the
exam-
and
you
know,
starting
from
November
till
up
to
the
exam,
we
had
I
think
four
or
five
of
the
woman
as
part
of
our
recruitment
team,
to
go
out
there
and
to
work
with
our
community
and
and
and
putting
the
word
out
on
the
exam.
It's.
B
Far
as
accountability,
that
was
the
buck
stops
here.
Okay,
that's
what
me
again,
I
think
I
put
forward
to
some
of
my
barriers
to
why
we
can't
we
haven't
hired
more
female
firefighters.
I
have
changed
the
female
lays
on
because
she
comes
from
a
military
background.
She
understands
the
issue
clearly
and
she
was
charged
with
being
out
in
the
community
and
to
educate
and
she's
gonna,
be
working
closely
with
one
on
the
female
firefighters,
if
you
will,
as
far
as
attracting
more
females
their
job,
we're
gonna
put
all
our
effort
forward
in
that
regard.
I
B
I
would
tell
you
this
that
those
departments
that
have
higher
numbers
as
female
firefighters,
our
dual
role-
Department.
They
are
not
one
single
role
department.
They
are
fire
based,
EMS
systems,
I'm,
pretty
confident.
Minneapolis
is
one
of
the
fire
based
EMS
systems.
When
you
start
to
see
larger
numbers
of
female
firefighters
there,
because
the
pavement
is
a
dual
role:
cross
trained,
Department,
they're,
not
single
rolled,
which.
B
I
It's
counselor
wrong.
I'm
sorry
did
I
get
your
name
correct,
commissioner,
wrong
I
apologize,
I
thought
you
were
an
attorney,
says
counselor,
but
Commissioner
Commissioner
I'm.
Your
only
attorney
you
had
mentioned
that
there
was
implicit
bias.
Training
in
2016
and
17
2017
2017
was
that
the
first
time
since.
I
L
What
I
have
done
is
I
actually
partnered
with
an
outside
entity
to
have
conducted
that
training.
They
actually
also
did
our
conflict
and
confrontation,
training
and
I
have
continuously
been
working
with
them,
explaining
some
of
our
challenges
and
how
they
can
develop
and
tailor
a
curriculum
that
would
be
more
appropriate
for
the
Boston
Fire
Department.
So.
I
L
L
Think
that
that's
something
that
we
can
consider
but
I
think
that
that
requires
for
the
thought,
how
we
move
forward
and
what's
the
best
course
of
training
for
our
membership,
because
firefighters
have
a
different
mental
state,
if
you
will,
and
so
we
have
to
carefully
craft
something
that
would
be
amenable
and
fruitful
and
achievable
for
them.
So.
I
Harvard
actually
has
a
really
good
test
for
implicit
bias.
That's
open
and
I
really
encourage
you
it's
free
also,
but
if
you
feel
it's
necessary
and
it
has
very
little
to
do
with
training
or
the
profession
the
person
chooses,
it
actually
gets
to
the
direct
implicit
bias
that
they
have
and
the
reason
why
I
suggest
this
is
because
learning
about
it
as
some
sort
of
ether
other
than
is
very
easy
for
someone
to
say
that
well,
someone
else
has
that
or
I
have
it,
but
I
don't
know
what
it
is.
I
I,
don't
know
who
it's
for
or
against
taking
and
I've
taken
the
test
taking.
It
is
really
revealing
about
what
and
who
you
need.
York
react
to
and
then
being
able
to
know
that
about
yourself
and
being
able
to
compensate
for
that
within
the
confines
of
being
a
firefighter
or
whatever
profession
that
you
choose
is
vital.
So,
along
with
happened
again,
I
think
that's
also
showing
some
sort
of
intentionality
is
actually
having
them.
I
Take
the
test
instead
of
being
told
about
it,
and
when
you
get
that
data,
then
you
can
actually
tailor
real
training
instead
of
more
ether.
Training
that
is
not
I,
think
at
all
effective,
because
I've
said
through
many
of
those
trainings
as
well.
I
also
think
once
a
year
is
that
the
plan
to
do
this
training
actually.
L
No,
we
plan
to
do
continuous
training
and
one
of
the
ideas
that
we
have
right
now
and
since
we're
still
in
a
lot
of
the
development
phase,
I
can't
say
for
sure
what
we're
going
to
be
doing.
But
in
preliminary
discussions
with
my
own
team
and
my
own
staff
working
with
the
new
female
liaison
working
with
my
HR
director,
we
want
to
incorporate
a
lot
of
this
anti
harassment,
discrimination,
type
of
training
into
the
regular
training
that
a
lot
of
the
firefighters
go
through
so
that
it
will
be
continuous
and
ongoing.
L
Actually
met
and
started
creating
a
curriculum
that
will
be
rolled
out
before
this
current
recruit
class
graduates.
So
that's
a
good
start
and
we
hope
to
take
that
and
springboard
that
and
hopefully
roll
it
out
and
develop
and
build
it
into
the
normal
everyday
training
that
all
firefighters
go
through
and
make
it
a
component
of
their
training
and.
N
B
Really
good
I
can't
say:
there's
nothing
that
jumps
right
out
at
me:
counselor,
but
I'm.
You
know
it's
just
factual
that
the
quicker
we
can
get
there,
the
better
the
outcome.
So
if
we
have
delays
whether
it's
traffic
or
companies
out
of
quarters
or
wherever
they
yeah,
it
certainly
delays
the
response.
The
citizens
have
brought
us
on
blessed
that
we
have
probably,
if
under
four
minute
response
times
almost
95%
of
the
time,
which
is
pretty
quick.
You
call
us
we're
there,
so
the
response
time
is
and
we
do
well.
B
Every
time
we
talk
about
is
council
Flowery
mentioned
we
talked
about
seaport
and
different
areas
and
relocating
people
as
far
as
council
Mally,
as
far
as
engine
42
and
keeping
the
engine
company
in
that
district.
In
that
sub
district
response
times
critical.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
maintain
that
presence.
So
I
would
tell
you
simple.
Quite
answer
to
your
question
would
be
that
traffic
certainly
could
be
involved
in
delaying
response,
which
could
help
multiples
to
complicate
a
little
quicker.
Okay,.
N
N
B
We
do
have
in
this
budget,
we
do
have
60
new
recruits.
What
was
starting
to
see
occur
over
the
next
five
years,
starting
to
see
the
transition
of
the
early
late
70
I
mean
1970
crowd
that
come
on
the
DePalma,
which
we
did.
Some
significant
hiring
I
was
starting
to
see
them
transition
out
of
the
department,
so
we're
gonna
have
see
some
uptick
in
our
numbers
going
forward
over
the
next
four
to
five
years,
we'll
start
to
see
some
larger
retirements
and
those
time
periods
and.
N
B
I
mean
this
last
class
that
we
currently
have
on
the
academy.
We
were
able
to
exercise
the
language
fluency
component
of
the
state
law
and
we
actually
this
class
here
is
you
know
it's
not
perfect,
but
it's
about
28%,
diverse
and
so
we're
gonna
be
working
and
we're
gonna
go
in
this
class
of
60
we're
gonna
be
gonna.
Do
the
same.
Thank.
A
N
B
I'm
sorry,
the
Kami
issue,
which
we
have
reached
settlement
with
the
manufacturer,
we're
right
now
working
with
them.
They
were
going
to
if
you
will
reengineer
e
transmission
tote,
that
equipment
which
we
will
be
able
to
utilize
going
forward
and
then
we'll
probably
try
to
offload
the
bulk
of
it.
Great.
N
And
then
I'm
just
one
last
question
for
this
round,
because
I'm
just
looking
at
referring
back
to
some
of
my
notes
from
last
year,
we
talked
about
just
planning
for
the
proliferation
of
the
cannabis
industry
and
some
of
our
the
challenges
Boston
Fire
might
face,
especially
with
the
availability
of
the
ability
to
grow
certain
quantities
at
home
and
the
demands
of
both
home
grow
and
for
sale
grow.
Both
medical
and
recreational.
You
know
sort
of
the
the
fire
safety
encode
safety
implications
that
might
have
I
just.
B
Can
speak
broadly
on
it,
I
talked
to
my
counterpart
in
Denver
around
the
topic
I'm,
not
so
much
concerned
with
the
commercial
side
of
this.
To
be
honest
with
you
I'm
more
concerned
with
homegrown
side
of
what's
going
to
take
place
in
councilÃs
Leo
Mazzone
backyard.
We
have
a
lot
of
college
kids
who
occupy
a
lot
of
those
brownstones
and
buildings
over
Beacon,
Street
and
Boylston
Street,
and
all
that
neighborhood
I
think
that's
gonna
be
challenging.
I
mean
I
know
you
know.
B
Each
individual
gonna
have
six
plants
the
extraction
process
when
they
use
butane
and
propane
to
extract
college
kids,
a
very
ingenious
around
what
they
like
to
do.
I
guess
so
I
could
see
the
the
dynamic
of
who's
gonna
have
the
betta
pot,
whose
one
on
the
strongest
s--
I
can
see
all
this
stuff
coming
to
fruition.
I
think
it
adds.
Certainly
when
you
add
anything,
I
mentioned
the
uptick
in
the
killer's
disposal
when
you
start
to
add,
if
they're
smoking,
whether
it's
an
edible
ID
I,
really
have
concerns
around
the
extraction
process.
O
Thank
you
Thank
You
councillor
co-moh,
and
thank
you
guys,
commissioner,
it's
great
to
see
you
and
your
incredible
team
and
local
seven
one
eight
thank
you
for
being
here
as
well.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
guys
do.
You
have
often
don't
get
credit
for
some
of
the
positive
things
and
I
also
want
to
thank
one
who
got
up
here
earlier
to
talk
about
some
of
his
his
work.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
questions.
O
Obviously
we
stay
in
communication
on
many
things
and
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
you
guys
are
always
available
to
communicate.
Even
if
we
don't
always
agree,
I
think
there's
always
room
for
discussion
and
moving
forward
on
issues.
I
think
we
both
care
about,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
diversity
in
terms
of
the
numbers
of
women
and
and
folks
of
color,
not
just
at
entry-level
positions,
but
also
at
the
higher
level
positions.
O
Council,
McCarthy
and
I
filed
that
hearing
or
trying
to
settle
on
some
dates
right
now
to
have
conversations
about
what
are
some
short-term
initiatives
and
long-term
initiatives
and
solutions
to
change
those
numbers.
I
think
we
were
in
the
beginning,
operating
with
the
public
safety
agencies
in
separate
spaces,
and
often
times
talking
to
folks
of
color
and
veterans
in
different
spaces
and,
frankly
said
I
said
I'm
done
doing.
O
That
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
all
to
come
together
to
see
what
might
be
working
in
other
public
safety
agencies
to
see
how
each
agency
is
different.
The
barriers
may
be
a
little
different
I
think
we
talk
about
civil
service.
Every
agency
is
dealing
with
that,
and
so
what
does
that
mean
how
how
maybe
a
barrier?
O
How
may
it
not
so
I
think
we're
not
gonna
cover
that
and
in
one
budget
hearing,
but
the
goal
is
to
have
several
policy
briefings
with
the
goal
of
coming
out
of
maybe
three
or
four
policy
briefings
with
some
short
term
and
long
term
solutions.
So
I
look
forward
to
you
guys
being
partners
in
that
work.
O
I
have
to
thank
you
Commissioner,
as
well
as
Juan,
for
getting
me
in
your
HR
team
for
getting
me
the
data
really
quickly
to
be
able
to
put
together
the
hearing,
order
to
get
current
numbers
to
begin
having
the
conversation,
but
not
just
to
stay
in
a
space
of
conversation,
but
to
move
forward
to
find
some
solutions.
I
will
tell
you
I
think
councillor
Flaherty
might
have
brought
this
up
in
in
some
conversations,
thus
far
they've
been
happening
in
different
spaces.
O
We've
been
looking
at
whether
it's
you
know
the
captain's
in
the
police
department,
I,
think
councillor
Flaherty
brought
up
the
district
Chiefs
5
and
10
what
it
means
to
either
create
new
positions
to
restore
new
positions
and
to
take
from
existing
lists
where
there
might
be
some
folks
of
color
or
in
the
police
department.
We
captain's
there's
a
woman
at
the
top
of
the
list,
and
if
we
created
a
space
for
a
captain,
we
could
put
her
in
there
and
immediately
change
those
numbers.
O
So
I
think
there's
some
things
that
possibly
could
happen
in
the
short
term
to
change
our
numbers
and
then
I
think
there's
some
things
that
have
to
happen
in
the
long
term,
but
just
curious
SG
I
miss
the
question-and-answer
period
with
respect
to
district
5
and
10.
Is
there
an
appetite
to
bring
that
back?
What
was
the
conversation
I
apologize
for
asking
the
question
again:
I
got
pulled.
B
I
certainly
recognized
the
need.
I
was
just
explaining
counsel
that
this
two
weekends
ago
we
had
those
three
consecutive
fires.
Well,
at
the
same
time-
and
there
was
no
chief
officers
left
in
the
city
and
we
used
to
have
some
depth
when
we
had
those
additional
districts,
we
put
a
lot
of
chiefs
on
the
fire
ground
around
safety
around
containment,
so
I'm
certainly
open
to
suggestions
around
those
districts.
This.
O
That's
more
representative
of
the
demographics
of
their
respective
cities,
but
they
may
not
be
dealing
with
civil
service
or
what
you
were
talking
about.
The
fire
department
having
its
own,
recruiting
enrollment,
which
is
different
from
other
places
as
councillor
Edwards
suggested,
but
who
can
do
a
deep
dive?
O
In
my
first
term,
in
one
conversation,
one
hearing-
and
we
shouldn't
be
thinking
about
it
in
just
the
context
of
say,
the
fire
department
or
the
police
department
chief
Huli-
really
wants
to
do
something
with
his
numbers
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
a
unique
opportunity
in
time
for
us
to
have
the
conversation
as
a
collective
and
I
appreciate
your
partnership
and
one
in
particular.
B
Just
to
bring
you
give
you
a
little
loud
background,
so
the
civil
service,
promotional
exam
so
is
competitive,
exam
open
to
all
members,
and
so
my
right
so
in
2000,
just
to
give
you
some
numbers
and
our
systems
working
just
to
give
you
some
numbers,
okay,
so
in
in
2000
now
looking
could
they
be
working
better?
Certainly,
okay,
there
was
zero
deputy
chiefs
of
minority
Chiefs
of
Deputies
on
the
job.
There
was
one
black
district
chief.
It
was
one
captain.
There
was
ten
lieutenants
Hispanic.
There
was
one
district
chief,
one
captain
in
five
lieutenants.
B
When
you
look
18
years
later,
we
have
two
minority
deputies,
which
is
a
higher
civil
service
rank
achieved
on
their
own.
You
have
six
I'm,
sorry,
three
black
District
Chiefs.
You
have
three
Hispanic
district
Chiefs.
You
have
six
black
captains,
you
have
three
Hispanic
captains,
and
this
is
the
best
number
of
all
lieutenants.
You
have
34
black
lieutenants
and
you
have
16
Hispanic
lieutenants,
which
is
at
the
entry
level
the
toughest
test
to
take.
M
B
That's
always
the
toughest
hurdle
to
come
over
and
what
is
what
is
really
missed
in
that
topic.
Is
that
it's
a
competitive
exam?
Everyone
can
compete
at
the
same
level
and
the
fact
that
they
earned
the
respect
and
Trust
in
conference
of
the
men
they
serve.
I
think
that
is
remarkable,
that
we
have
we're
moving
in
that
direction,
that
we're
starting
to
see
the
advancements
all
on
the
same
playing
field
and
I.
Think
that's
what
and
we're
starting
to
see
that
moving
through
the
department.
Okay,
so
will
you
do
better
than
that
sure
absolutely.
B
Do
better,
but
those
numbers
speak
for
themselves
and
I
believe
the
postal
system
commonly
is
fair.
Everyone
competes
at
the
same
level.
Everyone
has
you
know:
education
is
a
component
time
and
service
is
a
component.
Seniority
is
a
component
and
then
the
multiple-choice
exam
where
people
actually
have
to
study
and
commit
to
the
exam
prior.
So
we
starting
to
see
those
numbers
moving
I
consider
very
dramatically
in
the
right
direction.
So
I
believe
that
that's
a
good
thing.
O
No
III
agree
that
we're
seeing
movement
and,
frankly,
when
looking
at
the
fire
department's
numbers
at
that
entry
level
in
particular,
and
particularly
at
black
firefighters,
you
saw
an
increase
that
most
people
don't
necessarily
talk
about
or
frankly,
give
anyone
credit
for,
but
I
think,
like
you
said,
there's
more
work
that
we
can
meet
can
do
and
I
think.
The
initial
conversation
will
include
a
conversation
about
the
numbers
and
everyone's
perspective
on
those
numbers
is
different.
O
If
you're
looking
at
where
you
have
come
from
to
where
you
are
that's
a
good
thing,
the
numbers
have
changed
and
gone
up
if
you're,
looking
at
the
population
of
the
City
of
Boston
and
the
demographics
of
the
city
of
Boston
and
then
you're,
comparing
the
demographics
of
the
department's
numbers,
there's
a
big
gap.
If
you
look
at
entry
versus
top
tier
positions,
there's
it's
not
not
representative
the
city
of
Boston's
demographics.
So
my
goal
is
to
not
just
talk
about
the
numbers.
O
O
Recruiting
certification
program
with
Workforce
Development
Department
trends
Department
that
hopefully,
will
see
their
demerol
to
that
new
initiative,
we'll
see,
but
I
think
everyone
agrees
that
there's
more,
that
we
can
be
doing
to
make
sure
that
our
public,
safe
from
the
agencies,
a
representative
of
the
people
of
color
and
women
in
the
city
of
Boston
I'm,
a
firm
believer
that
you
get
things
done
not
necessarily
always
having
an
adversarial
position,
but
actually
sitting
around
the
table
and
saying:
okay:
where
are
we
and
where
do
we
want
to
go?
Don't
get
me
wrong?
O
I've
already
talked
to
some
veterans,
frankly
veterans
that
I
actually
grew
in
my
relationship
with,
because
of
the
hearing
order
related
to
the
cadet
program
for
the
fire
department
and
folks,
where
we
didn't
start
on
the
same
page,
I'm
coming
to
find
out
one
guy
who
represents
many
of
those
veterans
lives
in
my
district,
and
we
continue
conversations
and
I
said.
Yes,
there's
a
lot
of
productive
categories
and
I'm
not
talking
about
everyone
right
now.
O
But
one
thing
I
think
is
exciting-
is
partnering
with
Council
McCarthy.
It's
an
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
come
together
to
have
a
conversation
to
have
the
back
and
forth,
but
hopefully
with
the
goal
of
changing
those
numbers
with
respect
to
our
public
safety
agencies
and
also,
at
the
same
time
not
just
talk
about
the
numbers
not
being
representative
but
also
representative
of
those
demographics
of
the
city,
but
also
talking
about
some
of
the
positives,
which
often
get
lost.
The
media
doesn't
talk
about.
We
don't
necessarily
even
talk
about
in
the
council.
O
Sometimes
I
learned
about
some
of
these
initiatives
or
the
Teen
Academy
or
other
things
that
folks
are
doing
with
respect
to
this
issue,
often
just
by
picking
up
the
phone
and
calling
some
people
in
your
department
or
running
into
them
in
Dorchester
and
continuing
the
conversation
around
diversity.
So
the
goal
is
also
highlight
what
we
are
doing:
that's
positive,
what
else
we
could
be
doing
and
then
to
make
sure
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
not
talking
about
this
in
five
10
years,
but
that
we've
actually
made
some
movement
together.
O
So
I'm
not
going
to
drag
on
like
just
one
more
question
is:
when
does
Kay
start
in
terms
of
the
independent
investigation
as
to
what's
actually
was
already
started,
she's
already
started.
Does
she
have
a
timeline
around
how
long
it
might
take
her
to
dig
into
the
weeds
of
the
various
allegation?
No
I
just
wanted
to
be
thorough.
O
B
O
C
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
counselor
I
had
a
few
more
questions,
commissioner.
What?
If,
when
firefighters
respond
to
you
know,
say
it's
the
innovative
district
there's
a
lot
of
emerging
technology
down
there
or
the
the
bu
bio
lab,
if
they're
exposed
to
any
type
of
chemicals
or
any
type
of
situation
that
you
know
could
have
some
health
risks
for
them
down
the
line
which
the
protocol,
following
following
that
coming
out
of
that
area,
what
type
of
medical
assistance
where
they
retrieve
well.
B
We
just
not
only
have
the
Innovation
Lab,
but
if
you
look
at
even
the
Longwood
Medical
area,
I
mean
all
these
labs
that
are
the
cities,
I
think
there's
over
5,000
labs
in
the
city.
Currently
so
I
hazmat
response
is
very
robust
to
say
the
least
well-trained.
But
if
members
are
exposed,
there's
a
process
and
reporting
exposure
or
if
we
believe
they've
been
exposed.
We
we
document
the
exposure.
B
We
advise
people
to
seek
medical
attention,
make
sure-
and
this
is
goes
back
to
some
of
the
initiatives
around
making
sure
they're
washing
their
gear
cleaning
their
hoods
and
all
those
things
around
that
to
make
sure
that
they
thoroughly
decontaminated
the
big
thing
in
the
fire
service.
Right
now
is
this
gross
decon
after
a
fire
scene,
so
they
were
basically
not
bringing
any
of
these
toxins
and
carcinogens
back
to
the
fire
houses.
So
you
know
we
do
have
a
process,
there's
a
reporting
process
and
then
there's
medical
follow-up.
If
we
feel
the
need.
C
Commissioner
I'm
I'm,
often
at
the
VA
and
West
Roxbury
Yard,
make
a
plain
there's
a
lot
of
women
veterans.
Va
does
a
great
job
of
tracking
women
veterans,
as
does
the
state
in
the
city.
Is
there
anyway,
you
know
the
diversity
office
that
can
do
more
outreach
to
some
of
the
women
veterans
that
we
could
easily
identify
through
the
VA
or
through
the
state
or
the
city
as
well.
You.
B
Can
always
do
better,
counselor,
I'm
sure
I
know
one
has
been
very
committed,
he's
been
giselle
Commissioner
of
Veterans
Services,
articulating
I,
need
and
then
also
working
with
her
as
far
as
identifying
female
veterans
along
with
minority
veterans,
so
that
we
can
actively
pursue
them.
Some
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
have
underway
now
with
some
of
these
interventions.
If
you
will,
with
some
of
these
younger
diverse
groups
it,
we
won't
see
the
portion
of
that
for
a
few
years,
because
they're
gonna
have
to
go
into
military
serving
the
military.
B
C
Commissioner
I
was
out,
I
was
in
near
my
house
about
a
year
ago
with
the
eighties
Street,
and
there
was
a
there
was
a
construction
company.
There
was
a
welder
doing
some
work
without
a
without
a
fire
detail
in
it
immediately
called
the
fire
department
police
department,
but
the
fire
department
shut
it
down
is
that
common
that
construction
companies
would
do
welding
work
without
some
type
of
fire
detail.
Well,.
B
Since
the
tragedy
on
Beacon
Street,
we
have
that
hot
works
program.
We
worked
with
Union
in
non-union
contractors
about
educating
their
members
on
the
safety.
I
will
tell
you
after
the
tragedy
in
2014
we've
seen
our
details,
increased
dramatically.
I
think
people
recognize
the
hazard,
but
I.
Look
at
I
would
tell
you
that
I'm
sure
there's
unprotected
welding
and
burning
cutting
going
on
the
city
every
day.
B
I
would
tell
you
I
know
we
just
don't
have
the
resources,
it
won't
police,
all
of
that,
but
we
do
have
a
construction
unit
that
goes
out
and
is
actively
out
there.
Looking
at
all
of
that,
you
know
it's
like
anything.
People
cut
corners,
mm-hmm
and
they'll.
Try
to
get
around
that
obstacle
and
they
do
I
know.
C
A
lot
of
the
construction
development
is
happening
in
my
district
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
any
welding
that
does
take
place,
you
know
there's
always
a
fire
fire
detail
there
and
you
know
maybe
I
can
we
can
do
some
more
outreach
to
some
of
these
construction
companies
to
you
know
stress
to
them
the
importance
of
having
a
detail
all
the
time.
The.
B
C
B
C
And
then
my
final,
my
final
question
I
know
the
mayor
has
put
giving
you
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
funding
on
maintenance
apparatus.
We
place
in
it.
I
know
that's
critical,
making
sure
that
our
equipment
works
and
preventive
maintenance
is
key.
Do
you
have
enough
money
in
the
budget
for
all
maintenance
issues.
B
We
do
and
when
we
don't,
we
get
emergency
funding
for
it,
so
I
mean,
as
I
mentioned,
the
average
age
of
our
buildings
is
76
years
old.
So
when
something
goes,
we
have
to
come
back
to
doing
a
budget
amendment.
You
know
we
need
heating
system
and
things
like
that,
so
I
think
we're
adequately
funded
in
those
regards
and
there's
those
things
occur.
You
know
we've
been
able
to
work
forward
and.
C
I
know
this
mayor:
who's
is
committed
to
making
sure
that
we
do
have
enough
money
in
the
budget
for
maintenance.
That's
that's
critical!
That's
key,
and,
unlike
the
previous
administration,
we
didn't
have
enough
money
in
the
maintenance
to
but
maintenance
department.
So
that's
an
issue.
I
want
to
stay
stay
on
top
of
as
well.
Well,.
B
In
Mayor
Walsh's,
first
term,
his
first
four
years
he's
committed
almost
a
hundred
million
dollars
to
the
Boston
Fire
deparment
capital
are
close
to
in
capital
and
along
the
operational
budget.
We
didn't
see
that
level
of
commitment
in
20
and
I.
Think
people
recognize
that
and
I
gotta
thank
mayor
Walsh
for
recognizing
that
and
giving
me
the
ability
or
the
resources
to
make
sure
we
make
the
changes
and
get
things
done,
that
we
need
to
get
done.
C
Several
weeks
ago,
Commissioner
I
was
with
you:
I
had
the
honor
to
attend
the
retirement
banquet
for
the
Boston,
firefighters,
that
retired,
and
it
was
great
to
you,
know,
see
the
great
pride
and
respect
these
older
people
had
for
the
job.
You
know
they've
worked
hard,
they
served
our
city
well
and
just
the
amount
of
pride
they
had
for
our
city
and
for
the
fire
department
was
was
great
to
see
so
I
just
wanted
to
say,
congratulations
to
you
and
your
team
as
well
into
718.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
I
So
we
were,
we
were
talking
about
the
implicit
bias,
training
and
one
of
the
things
I
had
suggested
was
that
the
actual
firefighters
take
the
test,
another
suggestion
or
I
wonder
if
you
considered
having
them
once
they're
recruited
instead
of
just
set
the
chief
level
actually
having
your
new
recruits,
take
the
test
as
well.
It's
almost
like
a
physical
fitness
test
as
well
checking
out
where
they
are
what's
going
on
and
making
sure
that
they're
very
aware
of
the
things
that
they
have
going
on
within
themselves.
You
considered
that
it's.
I
And
so,
and
also
tell
me
about
your
recruitment
with
with
colleges
or
female
athletes.
Have
you
have
you
focused
on
them?
Have
you
gone
to
them?
I
would
think
I
would
hope.
The
collegiate
level
athletes
that
we
have
who
are
women
could
meet
some
of
your
physical
tests
and
your
academic
or
your
your
written
test
as.
B
B
Can't
speak
for
the
formal
female
liaisons
I.
Don't
believe
that
the
most
recent
formal
female
lays
on
did
much
in
that
regard,
so
we've
charged
the
new
female
lays
on
which
is
happened
to
be
firefighter
Margaret
Conley.
That's
her
her
charge
is
to
work
directly
into
the
community,
looking
at
all
of
our
female
hiring
and
what
the
best
way
to
approach
it
and.
I
I
B
I
think
I
need
this.
We
we
need
to
internally
have
a
further
conversation
on
specifics.
I
would
think
on
a
larger
topic.
I
would
hope
that
we've
had
a
number
of
interactions
with
females
who
might
be
interested
in
careers
in
the
fire
service.
We
just
went
through
a
testing
cycle
so
that
won't
give
up
now
for
another
year
and
a
half
so
to
be
hard
to
measure
anything
next
year.
As
far
as
if
anyone
has
actually
signed
up
for
the
exam
we've
been
it
successful.
B
We're
gonna
look
at
some
of
the
statutory
abilities
I
have
with
live
around
language
fluency,
to
see
if
there's
females,
that
we
could
move
as
a
pie
rate
and
the
hiring
process.
We
did
that
in
the
last
exam
around
language
hid
in
the
past,
counselor
has
denied
female
a
special
pie
rate
list
for
females
as
recently
as
2011,
so
we
need
to
refocus
and
that's
what
we're
looking
at
so.
I
Yes
and
you've
certainly
explained
that
and
and
I
and
I've
heard
that
I
don't
want
you
to
think
I've,
dismissed
them
or
think
in
any
way
shape
or
form
that
that
these
aren't
real
but
part
of
being
intentional
about
getting.
Something
done
is
knowing
what
you
want
and
knowing
seeing
the
goal
or
the
number
or
the
percentage
increase,
and
so
do.
B
I
think
that
is
a
given
will
be
trying
we're
gonna
maintain
16,
okay,
we're,
hopefully
gonna
increase,
we'll
have
to
see
what
the
list
present
to
us
as
far
as
eligible
and
reachable
candidates.
Okay,
it
doesn't
matter
what
my
goal
is.
If
my
goal
is,
if
I
set
the
goal
at
20
and
I
get
to,
you
can
tell
me,
I
fell
shot
realistically.
I
have
to
wait
to
see
what
the
list
presents
to
me
to
see.
If
there's
reachable
candidates,
it's
not
the
it's,
not
the
ability.
B
I
B
I
B
I
Terms
of
other
just
switching
the
topic
then
and
I
guess
that's
so
just
to
end
that
then
I
don't
know
how
how
then
we
can
hold
anyone
accountable
without
without
goals.
I'll
just
say
that
I
don't
know
how
you
how
you
can
set.
You
don't
set
limits.
You
don't
set
standards,
you
don't
set
what?
Where
we're
gonna
go,
I,
don't
know
how.
I
Then
people
are
gonna
be
accountable,
so
just
say
that
switching
topics
I'm
talking
about
safety,
specifically
in
my
district
and
some
of
the
pilot
programs
that
the
ISD
has
come
up
with,
for
example,
the
Adu,
which
is
the
basement
program
or
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
program,
they've
allowed
for
folks
to
be
permitted
to
have
additional
units
within
their
homes
and
I
was
curious
about
your
own
perceptions.
Were
you
consulted
on
the
safety
of
that
in
the
basement,
apartments
that
are
now
increasing
and
getting
permitted
in
East,
Boston
I?
Think
Matapan
in
Jamaica
Plain.
E
I
E
I
You
I
was
just
curious
because
I'd
hoped
it
was
a
success.
I
know
that
they
have
promoted
the
the
sprinkler
system
being
a
requirement
for
any
of
the
to
two
families
becoming
three's
or
three
families
becoming
fours
and
they're,
requiring
it
not
for
the
whole
house
to
be
wired
and
sprinklers
with
just
the
new
unit,
and
so
I
was
I
was
true.
So.
I
B
We
have
a
mutual
aid
agreement
is
with
35
cities
and
towns
in
Greater
Boston.
We
have
a
very
good
working
relationship
with
all
of
our
partners
and
the
Greater
Boston.
We
are
in
Chelsea,
quite
a
bit
as
you
can
imagine.
We
have
Chelsea
has
a
significant
fire
problem
at
times
and
we
usually
rate
them
on
their
first
a
second.
We
send
a
number
of
resources
to
Chelsea
every
year.
Actually,
I
think
I
have
numbers
for
you.
If
you're
interested
yeah.
I
I
B
I
I
And
then
I
noticed
recently
there
was
a
I
thought,
a
very
positive
tweet
from
the
Boston
Fire
Department
about
the
vacancy
program
and
receivership,
specifically
that
a
lot
of
vacant
buildings
are
also
where
a
lot
of
the
fires
are
are
started.
Do
you
still
find
that
trend
to
be
true
that
it's
vacant
it.
B
Certainly
is
a
trend
not
just
in
Boston,
but
it's
a
trend
throughout
the
state
throughout
the
country
vacant
buildings,
where
people
tend
to
congregate,
we've
suffered
in
Massachusetts
a
significant
tragedy
and
what's
the
where
we
lost
six
firefighters
in
a
vacant
building,
we've
had
some
significant
vacant
building
fires
in
the
city
this
year.
So
it
is
an
issue
and
we're
pretty
robust
and
the
relationship
we
have
with
ISD
is
very
good
on
all
levels
in
all
the
county.
P
B
P
Fontana
yeah
no
I
want
you
to
allayed,
like
the
Commissioner
said,
is
pretty
people
relying
on
Boston
a
lot
as
you
can
imagine,
and
we
rely
on
Chelsea
in
particular
for
East
Boston
fires,
but
mutual
aid
in
incidents
where
outside
of
Boston
in
the
last
year,
we've
had
since
last
July.
So
it's
not
a
full
year.
182
we've
sent
432
units
could
be
engines,
ladders
Chiefs
whatever,
but
individualised
432
mutual
aid.
P
We
get
because
we're
fortunate
to
have
more
resources
than
a
lot
of
our
neighboring
towns
in
cities,
but
Chelsea's,
probably
one
of
the
most
frequent
that
we
interact
with
because
of
the
geographical
concerns
of
East
Boston,
and
also
the
ease
with
the
Meridian
Street
Bridge
in
the
Chelsea
Street
Bridge
that
we
can
get
in
and
out
of
Chelsea
I
mean
from
cows
down
into
Somerville.
That's
another
common
transition
between
departments
as
well.
N
N
You
again
and
a
couple
questions
on
sharps
and
narcan
use
and
know
that
we've
seen
an
increase
over
the
years
of
narcan
use
or
response
to
narco
D
calls
in
which
our
firefighters
are
using
narcan.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
number
sure
how
many
doses
have
been
delivered.
Oh,
maybe
over
the
course
of
last
fiscal
year
and
I.
Don't.
B
B
A
medical
situation
that
we
send
a
team
back
within
the
next
24
48
hours
to
office
supports
assistance,
whether
it's
trying
to
get
counseling
get
that
individual
into
treatment,
but
also
to
if
you
will
educate
the
parents,
the
young
clients,
the
brother,
the
sister
on
what's
available,
and
we
also
again
working
with
the
mayor's
office
recovery
service,
which
does
a
great
job.
We
they
will
donate
organs
with
donate,
but
they
will
give
the
individuals,
Nakia
and
I,
think
trending
our
numbers
and
we're
starting
to
see.
We
certainly
have
the
responses.
B
We
track
these
by
a
certain
code,
which
is
we
call
it
a
321
and
and
being
to
determine
knock
in.
We
are
still
our
number
of
responses
to
drug
related
incidents
are
certainly
going
up,
but
our
administering
coming
down.
It
appears
and
I
think.
A
lot
of
that
is
because
the
availability
of
narcan
that
in
too
you'll
be
knocking
before
we
get
there
and
then
we're
just
providing
rescue
breathing
and
things
like
that
to
maintain
the
person
to
Li
mi
survives
have.
N
B
Well,
EMTs
can
deliver
the
basic
function
as
an
EMT.
We
also
have
26
paramedics,
but
they
can't
they
can't
function
as
a
paramedic
because
we're
not
integrated
into
the
system.
So
I
think
the
fact
that
we
have
so
many
EMTs.
We
got
over
200
EMTs
on
duty
every
day
in
the
city
and
every
neighborhood
is
it
benefit
to
the
city.
You
get
advanced
trained
medical
responder
within
four
minutes
which
can
make
the
difference
between
life
and
death.
As
we
all
know,
and.
N
B
N
Knowing
that,
thank
you
and
then
I
had
asked
this
question
earlier
of
Boston
EMS,
so
it's
probably
appropriate
to
ask
her
the
view
as
well.
I
have
a
concern
with
a
piece
of
property
that
they
lease
was
at
great
expense
to
the
City
of
Boston,
whose
Boston
Fire
have
any
property
that
they
lease
for
either
a
firehouse
or
another
purpose.
E
B
We
have
to
I
guess
you
could
say
so
that
engine
ten
squatters,
which
is
part
of
the
high-rise,
that's
part
of
international
place,
and
then
we
have
an
agreement
with
Javed.
We
have
property
over
at
Holton
Street
that
we
use
for
our
special
operations
division
where
we
do
all
I
have
my
training,
technical
rescue,
training
and
so
on.
Yeah,
then.
B
N
B
N
B
I
got
to
tell
you
boys,
some
water
in
stores
done
a
great
job.
The
hydrant
system,
the
city
of
Boston,
has
never
been
better
Henry
vitality
and
his
crowd
has
done
a
fabulous
job
with
replacing
hydrants
and
the
water
pressures
never
been
as
good
either
I
mean
we
get
basically
almost
static
pressure,
almost
60
to
80
pounds
at
times
which
is
incredible
on
and
but
we
do
have
some
replacements
going
on.
We
internally
do
Hydra
inspections
every
year,
usually
in
the
fall
just
before
the
winter.
B
Just
two
we
test
the
hydrants,
we
I
shouldn't
say
we
test
and
we
don't
crack
the
barrels.
We
don't
open
them,
but
we
check
their
physical
condition
from
the
exterior
and
we
check
to
see
if
there's
any
water
in
the
barrel,
because
that's
when
you
get
to
frozen
hydrants
and
then,
if
we
do
find
defects,
we
give
it
to
water
and
sewer
and
they
usually
fix
them
a
very
short
period
of
time.
If
we
do
so
I'm
very
confident
and
comfortable
to
a
hydrant
system
and
bought
some
water.
A
H
A
B
A
A
Q
The
tape
Oh
Willie,
no
I,
know
absolutely
right.
I'll
leave
him
my
phone
number.
They
know
where
to
find
me.
Listen
I've
been
a
testifyin
since
2010
with
a
budget.
The
last
administration
who
beat
us
up
for
20
years,
who
I
like
to
enjoy
beating
up
every
time.
I
have
an
opportunity.
You
know
when
we
came
here
for
the
budget,
they
were
cutting
jobs.
Our
hospital
reps
were
very
important
for
our
firefighters
that
you
know
we
had
nine
guys
that
got
injured
at
that
fire
three
two
weekends
ago.
Q
It
was
important,
they
were
cutting
apparatus,
they
weren't
replacing
them
for
six
or
seven
years.
Average
age
was
over
25
years,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
Commissioner
and
his
team
they've
done
a
great
job.
The
average
age
of
apparatus
right
now
is
six
and
a
half
years
old
and
it's
good
but
I
gotta
thank
the
City
Council
and
the
mayor,
and
you
know
it's
about
safety
for
the
firefighters
and
citizens
in
the
city
of
Boston.
It's
important
and
you
they
understand
that
firefighters
are
important.
Q
The
men
and
woman
of
local
7:18
in
1999,
we
lost
12
active
members.
Nine
without
attack
and
three
with
cancer,
and
we
try
to
bring
a
well
fitness
proposal
together
since
1999
and
they
didn't
want
to
do
it,
his
council
flower.
He
brought
up
earlier
about
physicals.
We
were
in
bargaining
and
we
wanted
to
do
it
and
they
they
didn't
want
to.
They
didn't
care
about
us.
We
brought
up
the
cancer,
that's
they
even
care
heart
attack.
Q
So
it's
good
that
this
administration,
kids
about
our
firefighters,
the
Senate
in
Washington,
just
passed
unanimously
a
registry
for
cancer
registry
and
it
the
IFF
7:18
PFF.
Em
we've
been
working
on
this
and
they
passed
it
unanimously
because
they
saw
what
Boston
is
doing
with
718
in
the
mayor
and
the
commissioner
and
his
team
are
doing
so.
Q
Q
The
men
and
woman
in
this
job
do
a
great
job
out
in
the
field
ice
and
Squad
I
Training
Academy,
the
fire
prevention
I've
heard
some
about
fight
details
that
those
got
the
men
and
women
up
in
fire
prevention,
work
very
hard,
they're
out
in
the
streets,
making
sure
that
the
contractors
are
doing
the
right
thing:
fire
alarm,
fire,
alarm,
construction,
maintaining
them
red
boxes.
So
if
someone
needs
emergency,
they
can
hook
a
red
that
lleva
and
there's
a
fire
truck
there
within
three
to
four
minutes.
Q
So
it's
great
that
we're
replacing
jobs,
promotions,
the
last
administration,
if
a
chief
retired,
you
just
retired
a
chief
and
promoted
to
chief
what
this
administration
does:
chief
captain
and
Lieutenant.
So
this
administration
is
doing
the
right
thing
and
I
appreciate
that
I
had
to
do
a
lot
of
fighting
with
the
last
administration
and
it's
they
try
to
wear
us
down.
I
always
said
we're
gonna
be
here
and
you're
gonna
be
gone.
Q
That
was
right.
I
wanted
thanks.
One
he's
doing
a
great
job.
He's
worked
with
us
in
you
know,
718
does
not
get
involved
in
hiring,
but
I'll
take
my
hat
off
men
and
woman
that
serve
this
country.
The
veterans
deserve
to
come
home
and
have
an
opportunity
to
get
this
job.
My
son
I
just
was
living
down,
North
Carolina
Marine
Corps,
and
it
was
some
females
and
black
kids
there
and
black
Marines
and
I've
said
to
them.
Dave
come
to
Boston.
Q
When
you
get
out,
there's
a
kid
from
high
pocketful
my
pocket
and
went
in
with
my
son.
He
met
him
in
boot.
Camp
and
I
asked
him
like
what
are
you
gonna
do
in
three
years
and
he
didn't
know
and
I
I
saw
getting
such
a
yeah,
so
the
veterans
do
deserve
they're
defending
our
country,
they're,
leaving
their
families
at
18
years
old,
and
you
don't
know
what
I
tried
to
go,
that
my
son
comes
home
healthy
in
four
years,
along
with
every
other
men
and
women
that
serve
this
country.
They
mentioned
the
EAP.
Q
We
have
a
great
EAP
program.
People
come
down
to
the
union
hall
and
reach
out
to
us.
It's
all
private,
it's
it's!
The
as
the
Commission
has
said,
it's
the
the
model
to
the
International
of
firefighters
and
they
also
international
just
open
up
a
what
is
it
a
council,
it's
in
Baltimore
and
it's
great
it's
helping
firefighters,
but
we
also
send
them
out
throughout
the
whole.
Q
A
Course,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
son
for
a
service.
Thank
you.
So
that
concludes
today's
hearing.
I
want
to
thank
you
again,
commissioner,
your
entire
team,
all
the
men
and
women
in
the
field
that
you
know
protect
our
citizens,
our
residents
and
our
visitors
every
day.
This
hearing
is
adjourned.