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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on May 22, 2018
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Docket #0559-0565- Fiscal Year 2019 Budget: Boston Planning & Development Agency
A
By
six
three
orders
for
the
FY
19
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations,
annual
appropriations
for
the
school
department,
appropriation
for
other
post-employment
benefits
appropriation
for
certain
transportation
and
public
realm
improvements
and
appropriation
for
certain
park,
improvements
and
dockets,
zero.
Five,
six,
four
and
zero
five
six
five
capital
budget
appropriations,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
and
purchase
agreements.
I'd
like
to
remind
folks
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
is
being
broadcast
in
recorded
on
our
CN
channel
82
Comcast,
8,
Verizon,
1964
and
streamed
at
Boston,
gov
backslash
city
council,
TV.
A
The
ask
folks
in
the
chamber
to
silence
their
electronic
devices.
At
the
conclusion
of
the
departmental
presentation
and
questions
from
my
colleagues,
we
will
take
public
testimony.
There
are
sign-in
sheets
to
button
to
my
left
by
the
door.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
affiliation
residence
and
please
mark
the
box.
If
you
do
wish
to
testify,
there
are
several
other
ways
to
provide
public
testimony.
A
I'd
like
to
introduce
folks
in
what
I
think
is
the
order.
They
arrived
counsel,
Michael
clarity
to
my
left,
councillor,
Tim
McCarthy,
to
my
immediate
right
to
my
left,
immediate
left,
counsel,
Anissa
sabi
George
to
my
far
left,
counselor
Edie
Flynn
to
my
right
counsel,
Lydia
Edwards
in
counselor
Kim
Jane.
Thank
you
want
to
welcome
you
all
director
golden
you
have
the
floor.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
mr.
chairman,
Thank
You,
vice
chairman
McCarthy
and
through
you
to
the
members
of
the
council.
My
name
is
Brian
golden
and
I'm
the
director
of
the
Boston
Planning
and
Development
Agency,
thanks
for
allowing
myself
and
staff
the
opportunity
to
once
again
discuss
the
work
of
our
agency
with
you,
I'm
joined
today
to
my
left
by
Michelle
Goldberg,
the
budget
and
procurement
manager
for
the
agency,
Trin
Wynn,
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
Workforce
Development
and
Edo
Donald,
the
director
of
the
Boston
planning
and
development
agencies
real
estate
division.
B
The
Boston,
Planning
and
Development
Agency
works
closely
with
the
city's
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
on
affordable
housing
through
our
include
development
policy,
our
so-called
IDP
policy,
which
you
will
no
doubt
hear
reference
multiple
times
this
afternoon.
We
also
work
with
the
assessing
department
of
the
city
on
chapter
121,
a
in
lieu
of
tax
arrangements.
B
We
also
work
with
the
Boston
Transportation
Department,
the
Public
Works
Department
in
the
parks
departments,
on
the
impacts
of
development
in
the
city's
neighborhoods.
This
past
year
marked
another
productive
year
across
the
functions
of
the
BPD
a
we
continued
our
work
to
create
robust
economic
activity
throughout
the
city
of
Boston,
while
better
engaging
in
collaborating
with
the
communities
that
we
all
serve.
We
experienced
another
very
strong
year
for
real
estate,
development,
construction
and
overall
economic
activity.
B
We
are
welcoming
both
new
residents
at
a
significant
pace
and
new
employers
who
see
the
tremendous
benefits
of
choosing
Boston
as
their
home
fueled
by
Boston's
growing
population.
We
are
in
the
midst
of
the
biggest
building
boom
in
Boston's
history.
That's
been
the
case
for
the
past
several
years.
New
development
is
moving
forward
in
creating
local
economic
development
and
jobs
in
every
neighborhood.
B
In
the
city
we
approved
over
eleven
point
three
million
square
feet
of
new
development
in
calendar
year
2017
and
nearly
six
thousand
new
residential
units,
helping
us
make
significant
progress
towards
reaching
Mayor
Walsh's
goal
to
create
53,000
new
housing
units
by
2030
to
house.
Our
growing
population
in
2017
Boston
set
an
record
for
units
permitted
in
Boston
in
one
year
with
5,000
379
housing
permits
issued
of
the
homes
we've
permitted
since
2014
over
nineteen
percent.
B
Our
income
restricted
for
low
moderate
in
income
families
and
twenty-two
percent
of
market
rate
units
that
are
affordable
to
middle-income
families
since
2014,
using
IDP
and
linkage,
funds
generated
through
large
project
review
at
the
agency,
4322,
affordable
units
have
been
completed
or
are
under
construction,
and
an
additional
1466
affordable
units
have
been
preserved.
Through
this
activity
we
harnessed
the
strong
market
to
keep
Boston
the
national
leader
in
affordable
housing.
One
out
of
five
housing
units
are
income
restricted.
No
major
city,
we
know
of
come
close
comes
close
to
that
figure.
B
Development
in
Boston
is
supporting
the
growth
of
the
city's
tax
base,
allowing
for
critical
funding
for
city
services
like
our
schools,
streets
parks
in
public
safety.
This
year,
Mayor
Walsh's
fiscal
year,
19
budget,
which
is
before
you
right
now
increased
by
a
hundred
thirty
seven
million
dollars.
Our
four
point:
three
percent
over
the
fiscal
year,
2018
budget
of
the
hundred
thirty
seven
million
dollars
in
new
revenue,
118
million
comes
from
property
tax
growth
and
77
million
dollars
of
that
comes
from
brand-new
development
being
taxed.
B
B
Transformational
projects
are
moving
forward
following
a
comprehensive
process
where
we've
worked
with
you
over
the
past
three
years
to
ensure
that
we
have
maximized
revenue
flowing
to
the
residents
of
Boston.
Last
week
the
115
Federal
Street
Winthrop
square
project
was
approved
by
the
BPD
a
board.
This
paves
the
way
for
a
163
million
dollar
payment
to
the
city
of
Boston
that
will
be
invested
in
affordable
housing
and
open
space.
B
I'm
happy
to
report
that,
due
to
several
reforms
made
over
the
past
few
years
to
improve
the
way
we
operate,
the
BPD
a
is
seeking
favorable
is
seeing
favorable
trends
in
both
revenue
and
operating
expenses.
This
is
further
explained
in
detail
in
the
questionnaire
and
responses
to
that
questionnaire
that
we
forwarded
for
your
attention.
B
We
completed
our
ten-year
capital
improvement
plan
at
the
agency,
which
identifies
and
prioritizes
long
term
investments
in
infrastructure
projects
to
support
future
economic
growth
in
the
Raymond
L
Flynn
Marine
Park,
the
Charlestown
Navy
Yard
Long
Wharf,
the
China
trade
building
at
2,
Boylston
Street
in
the
BPD
A's
other
physical
assets.
We
are
now
working
to
establish
a
strategic
and
sustainable
funding
plan
to
support
this
critical
work
on
our
physical
infrastructure.
B
In
addition,
our
administrative
and
finance
administration
and
Finance
Department
released
the
first
of
its
kind
budget
book
to
accompany
the
fiscal
year
18
budget
for
the
agency.
This
is
available
on
our
website
to
anybody
who's
interested,
and
we
hope
that
the
City
Council
has
found
this
document
to
be
informative.
In
closing,
we
remain
committed
to
continuing
to
evolve
into
an
agency
that
better
serves
our
community
and
creates
an
inclusive
Boston
for
all
I'll
now
turn
the
presentation
over
to
Trin
Wynn
from
our
office
of
Workforce
Development.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
So
much
director
golden
good
afternoon,
chairman
co-moh,
who
is
also
the
neighborhood's
jobs,
trust
trustee
member.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
all
all
of
the
work
that
will
be
stated
here
would
be
part
of
your
accomplishments
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
your
service.
Also
thank
you
to
vice
chairman
McCarthy
and
respect
the
councilmembers
here
today.
My
name
is
Tran
Wynn
and
I'm.
The
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
Workforce,
Development
and
I
have
been
the
director
under
Mayor
Walsh
since
January
of
2014.
C
C
Our
mission
is
to
be
an
innovative
public
agency
that
promotes
economic
resilience
to
ensure
the
full
participation
of
all
boston
residents
in
the
city's
economic
vitality
and
future
owd
support
and
creates
policies,
programs
and
grants
that
promote
workforce
development
through
education,
job
training,
apprenticeships,
career
services,
financial,
coaching
credit
building,
career
pathways,
Adult
Basic,
Education
English
for
learners
English
as
a
Second
Language,
Learners
initiatives,
Youth
Employment,
Services
and
the
like
to
carry
out
these
efforts.
Owd
has
an
annual
program
operation
and
grant
budget
of
18
million
dollars
and
about
80
percent
of
this
total.
C
It's
from
grants
and
the
remaining
20%
comes
from
the
support
of
the
BPD,
a
specifically
as
the
largest
workforce
development
funder
in
the
city.
Out
of
this
total
annual
budget,
we
distribute
over
14
million
6065
job
training,
nonprofit
community
partners,
including
two
career
centers,
that
serve
fifteen
thousand
job
seekers
to
develop,
resume
writing
networking,
interviewing
skills
and
job
search
skills
and
serving
700
regional
employers
connecting
them
to
these
job
seekers.
C
Economic
equity
and
inclusion
is
one
of
Mayor
Walsh's
top
priority,
which
is
why,
in
the
last
four
and
a
half
years,
our
team
is
laser
focus
on
job
quality,
Career,
Pathways,
meaningful
youth,
employment
and
financial
capability.
All
with
measurable
outcomes.
We
are
seeing
some
positive
results,
for
example
among
clients
of
Boston's
one-stop
Career
Center's
59%
of
them
obtain
employment
within
the
first
quarter,
exit
earning
an
average
wage
of
21
dollars
and
36
cents
per
hour,
also
upon
job
placements
graduates
of
training
programs,
specifically
funded
by
the
neighborhoods
jobs,
trust
that
comes
from
linkage.
C
We
greet
all
of
the
grants
that
we
give
to
nonprofits
the
graduates
earn
an
average
wage
of
$15
and
23
cents
per
hour,
with
52%
of
them
earning
benefits
as
well
also
students
in
our
tuition,
free
Community
College
plan,
which
is
funded
by
developer
fees
through
linkage,
achieved
a
higher
first
year
retention
rate,
which
is
65
percent.
This
is
higher
than
the
states
or
the
national
averages
for
Community
College
retention
rates
and
completion.
C
Most
of
these
students
are
low-income
and
students
of
color
I'm
also
happy
to
report
that
Madison
Park
technical
vocational
high
school
has
a
highest
student
participation
rate
for
this
tuition.
Free
Community,
College
program,
youth
in
adult
workers
who
participated
in
our
city,
sponsored
credit
building,
workshops
and
one-on-one
financial
coaching
showed
improved
credit
histories,
higher
credit
scores
and
less
delinquency
than
a
control
group.
C
C
So
far,
30-plus
nonprofit
employers
and
organizations
have
signed
up
to
help
place
residents
and
jobs
that
pay
at
least
a
living
wage,
which
is
fourteen
dollars
and
41
cents.
An
hour
with
at
least
half
of
these
jobs
includes
employer
sponsored
benefits.
The
work
and
highlights
mentioned
here
by
no
means
imply
that
we
are
here
to
celebrate.
This
is
just
the
beginning
and
there's
much
more
work
to
do.
C
We
realize
this
and
we're
committed
to
working
even
harder
in
closing
I
want
to
thank
the
BPD
A's
leadership
and
their
financial
support,
Mayor
Walsh
and
his
administration
council
members
and
hundreds
of
community
partners
for
shaping
and
executing
our
agenda,
one
that
is
inclusive
of
all
Bostonians.
As
director
golden
have
stated
that
there
are
a
lot
of
economic
prosperity
throughout
the
city
of
Boston,
we
wouldn't
be
a
great
city
if
we
did
not
include
everyone,
and
our
work
really
helps
push
that
equity
agenda.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
training,
I,
have
the
privilege
of
serving
with
you
and
you
brought
an
unbelievable
new
perspective
and
fresh
energy
to
that
that
fund
and
we're
doing
some
great
things
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
also
like
to
recognize
several
of
my
colleagues
joined
us
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation,
councillor
Frank
Baker
to
my
left,
councillor
Michelle
Wu,
also
to
my
left,
councillor
Josh
shaken
off
to
my
right
and
I'm.
Gonna
recognize
council
flower
tea
for
first
line
of
questioning.
D
Longest
serving
city
councilor
here
I've
been
through
a
lot
of
hearings
on
the
VRA
and
have
been
in
front
of
a
lot
of
VRA
directors
and
we've
had
some
real
beauts
you're,
not
one
of
them
Brian,
so
you're,
smart,
you're,
honest
you're,
accessible.
You
work
hard
to
address
the
issues
and
concerns
of
councils
in
our
constituents
in
an
effort
to
continue
to
do
your
role
as
the
director,
the
VRA,
a
move,
our
city
forward.
D
At
the
same
time,
mitigating
community
concerns,
so
that
continues
to
be
a
breath
of
fresh
air
on
this
body,
just
conferring
with
my
colleague
Council
who,
in
terms
of
the
regular
reporting
around
urban
renewal,
things
like
that
that
stuff
had
never
been
done
before
there
was
sort
of
this.
You
know,
I,
guess
fear
of
folks
from
the
ninth
floor,
coming
down
to
the
fifth
floor,
to
have
a
conversation
answer.
Some
questions
offer
some
insight
which
is
healthy
for
government.
That's
healthy
for
our
city.
It's
healthy
fo
for
the
development
process
in
the
city.
D
So
for
that
end
one
sacred
opportunity.
Thank
you
for,
for
your
time
and
talents,
Thank
You
council.
It
forward
to
continue
working
together
as
well
as
your
team,
folks
that
you
have
here
at
the
desk
I
mean
behind
you,
my
Christopher,
probably
sleeps,
with
one
eye
open
constantly.
You
know,
responsive
he'll.
Tell
you
himself.
If
I
don't
tell
you
it's
24/7
in
it's
literally
early
mornings,
it's
late
nights,
its
Sundays.
D
What's
going
on
down
there,
so
ed
with
this
team,
I
see
Larry
mom,
always
here
and
I'd,
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
at
least
give
a
shout
out
to
rich
McGinnis
he's
been
that
he's
got
a
front
row
seat
to
this,
as
has
had
the
campus
on.
Oh
so
so
you
got
great
surround
yourself
with
great
people
that
are
working
extremely
hard
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
work
with
them.
D
I
want
to
talk
about
I,
guess
a
couple
issues
really
more
on
the
inspectional
services
owning
board
side
than
it
is
with
you
guys,
but
the
frustration
we
have
we
hear
from
our
constituents
when
a
matter
gets
deferred.
So
you
guys
are
going
through
your
process
and
then
a
matter
will
get
deferred
at
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
But
then
there's
no
mechanism
by
which
the
director
butters
are
notified.
It's
kind
of
left
up
to
them
to
kind
of
sniff
it
out.
D
D
It's
it's
only
fair
and
reasonable
that
if
someone
comes
up
here
moving
forward
with
a
project
that
the
director
butters
get
a
second
notice
and
for
some
reason
that
doesn't
happen,
we
they
get
the
first
notice
and
then
it
becomes
sort
of
hocus,
pocus
and
people
get
cute
and
on
the
development
side,
I
was
trying
to
maybe
catch
people,
not
paying
attention
and
I.
Think
that's
as
a
huge
service,
because
then
there's
a
there's,
a
kingdom.
D
The
perception
that
the
cake
is
baked,
the
fix
is
in
type
of
thing
and
I
think
that
that
would
go
a
long
way
and
at
least
giving
people
their
opportunity
to
be
heard
whether
they
support
the
project
or
oppose
the
project.
So
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
noticing
a
butters
on
defer
in
anything,
you
could
any
assistance
that
you
can
lend
it
you
are
and
you
have
purchased.
Thank.
B
You
concert
and,
as
you
may
know,
we,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
CBA
is
not
an
instrumentality
of
the
B
PDA,
but
we
work
very
closely
with
them.
We
have
staff
that
interact
with
the
CBA,
both
informally
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
but
also
when
it's
time
for
formal
proceedings,
we
always
have
a
presence
there.
So
we're
certainly
happy
to
add
our
voice
to
the
effort.
B
This
was
brought
to
my
attention
fairly
recently
that,
while
the
due
process
protections
appear
to
be
there
and
effective
for
that
first
bite
at
the
Apple
when,
when
things
are
deferred
and
require
multiple
visits
to
the
CBA
that
sometimes
there
are
there
are
there
are
glitches
and
are
at
least
it
is
not
necessarily
consistent
that
the
barters
are
notified
of
the
subsequent
secondary
and
maybe
even
third
proceeding.
So
the
due
process
loses
its
effect.
If
it
only
applies
to
a
piece
of
the
process
as
opposed
to
the
entirety
of
it.
So
we
appreciate
the.
D
D
But
we
can
we
just
can't
absorb
it
and
I
just
don't
know
what
metrics
you
and
or
your
team
are
sort
of
analyzing
right
now
to
say
whether
or
not
like
you
know,
one
neighborhood
is
sort
of
a
has
had
enough
and
I
do
it
enough?
Let's
focus
our
energy
and
efforts
push
some
of
that
development
somewhere
else
or
maybe
even
as
a
city
as
a
whole.
At
what
point
have
we
kind
of
maxed
out?
You
know
Sean.
B
I
need
your
thoughts
on
that,
so
you
know
obviously
there's
a
lot
subjectivity
in
that
it's
hard
to
sort
of
quantify
when
the
existing
physical
infrastructure,
the
built
environment,
the
manner
in
which
people
move
around
the
city
when
that
reaches
its
maximum
capacity.
So
there's
a
heavy
element
of
subjectivity,
but
the
city
is,
as
you
point
out,
it's
a
small
city.
It's
about
45
square
miles.
If
you
look
at
the
Terra
firme
and
not
including
water,
she'd
out
Boston
Harbor,
but
it's
45
square
miles,
and
and
that's
a
that's
a
that-
that's
a
pretty!
B
You
know
tight
piece
of
geography.
It
also
happens
to
be
the
exact
same
sized
landmass
of
the
city
of
Barcelona.
Barcelona
has
1.4
million
people
living
in
45
square
miles.
City
of
Boston
has
672
thousand
people
living
in
45
square
miles.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
I'm
not
advocating
for
Barcelona
esque
growth
in
the
in
the
city's
population,
but
I
think
in
in
that
spectrum.
Many
people
would
argue.
B
Barcelona
is
a
lovely
place
to
live
and
a
lovely
place
to
visit
that
we're
not
talking
about
Barcelona
population,
though
we're
talking
about
600
72,000,
increasing
at
a
fairly
healthy
rate
annually,
as
it
has
done
for
the
past
six
or
seven
years,
we're
adding
about
8
or
9,000
people
a
year
to
the
city's
population.
That's
brisk
growth
for
our
city.
B
So
we
believe
that
that
Boston
can
accommodate
this,
the
pockets
that
we
have
as
well
as
modest
growth
in
the
population
going
forward,
we've
been
there
before,
we've
done
it
before
it
remained
a
healthy
City
by
mid-century,
but
that,
as
as
you
all
know,
this,
the
city's
population
began
to
drop
precipitously
from
1950
to
1980.
We
lost
a
third
of
our
population.
B
You
talk
about
a
population
problem,
I
think
that's
a
real
population
problem,
we're
concerned
about
whether
or
not
we
can
manage
the
growth
that
we're
seeing
every
year,
eight
to
nine
thousand
people
a
year.
I'll
tell
you
a
really
really
sad.
City
is
a
city,
though
that
loses
its
population,
a
third
of
it
over
30
years.
B
We
we
are
arguably
in
an
enviable
situation,
where
we're
wrestling
with
the
challenge
of
a
growing
population
and
that
growing
population
speaks
to
the
fact
that
the
city
is
healthy
and
thriving
people
are
moving
here
because
they
want
to
be
here.
They
recognize
that
this
is
a
very
high
quality
place
to
live,
but
with
regard
to
city
services,
the
job
opportunities
here,
the
recreational
opportunities,
the
the
opportunities
to
connect
with
with
other
people
and
and
socialize,
and
work
in
a
meaningful
fashion
with
others
that
is
edifying,
both
individually
and
to
the
community.
B
B
But
we
got
to
make
sure
that
that
all
of
the
impacts
at
that
site
and
throughout
our
neighborhoods
are
mitigated
and
don't
render
life
a
congested
nightmare,
and
that
means
not
just
working
with
city
agencies
but
working
with
the
MBTA
and
the
state,
and
we
do
that
very
closely.
I
think
that
almost
everywhere
you
look,
we
can
manage
population
growth,
but
I'd
say
this.
The
single
greatest
factor
in
managing
population
growth
is
managing
transportation.
If
we
could
solve
for
the
problem
of
mobility,
we
can
we
can
manage
significant
population
growth,
but
it's
all
about
mobility.
B
You
take
away
the
fears.
People
have
about
being
able
to
get
around
their
neighborhood
to
get
from
their
neighborhood
to
downtown
and
back.
If
we
can,
if
we
can
address
that
in
in
in
mitigate
the
effects
of
significant
population,
growth
as
it
relates
to
mobility
will
be
and
will
be
in
much
better
shape
and
I
think
we're
doing
that.
B
Obviously,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
think
we're
not
doing
it
fast
enough
making
the
accommodations
that
need
to
be
made
by
a
growing
Boston,
but
we're
working
really
closely
internally
in
this
building,
but
also
with
our
compatriots
up
at
Beacon
Hill
and
in
the
state
bureaucracies
to
make
sure
that
we're
dealing
with
mobility,
solutions
that
again
address
the
the
needs
of
a
growing
city.
So
again,
it's
it's
a
subjective
call,
not
an
objective.
We
get
that
there's
an
objective
problem,
but
but
the
methodologies
by
which
we
we
address
it
are
painstaking
and
expensive.
They.
D
Already
appreciate
it,
obviously,
the
mobility
was
issues
that
we
addressed
this
this
week.
Traffic
in
particularly
that
yesterday's
hearing,
EMS
response
times
are
up
just
police
and
fire
response
times
are
up
because
they
just
can't
get
to
and
from,
and
we're
also
hearing
from
folks
in
the
commercial
real
estate
world
that
talking
about
not
renewing
their
leases
because
their
employees
have
a
hard
time
getting
in
and
out
of
parts
of
the
city,
so
obviously
significant
issues
that
we're
grappling
with
and
as
much
of
a
focus
that
we
put
on
the
affordable
housing
crisis.
B
We
absolutely
must
leverage
private
development
to
yield
benefits
on
transportation.
We
talk
about
a
lot,
as
you
know,
over
in
the
Seaport,
the
Seaport
is
growing
in
a
really
robust
pace
and
in
both
the
commercial
activity
and
increasingly
now
residential
putting
more
people
on
the
streets
getting
in
and
out
of
the
C
part
over
the
Moakley
bridge.
B
Northern
Avenue
Bridge
is
still
down,
but
not
down
for
the
count
where,
as
you
know,
the
budget,
that's
before
you
contemplates
significant
new
funding
for
the
northern
Avenue
bridge,
so
we're
investing
in
the
infrastructure,
we're
investing
and
working
with
the
state
on
on
MBTA
solutions
and
also
exploring
some
some
other
very
innovative
approaches
to
moving
people
around
congested
downtown.
But
you
know
from
a
planning
standpoint.
We
take
this
stuff
really
to
heart.
It's
not
just
a
one-off.
B
Oh
here's,
a
big
building,
let's
see
what
we
can
get
from
the
developer,
to
help
support
planning
or
maybe
even
even
physical
improvements
in
the
MBTA.
We
did.
We
commissioned
and
invested
heavily
and
imagine
2030,
which
is
our
general
citywide
plan
which
which
was
completed
last
year
and
a
component
piece
of
that
was
was
go.
Boston
and
go
Boston
was
was
led
by
the
BT
D,
but
again
it
looked
at
mobility
issues
throughout
the
city,
not
just
in
the
core
downtown.
B
So
so
we
are
animated
in
every
development
project
that
comes
before
us
with
an
eye
toward
go
Boston
and
imagine
Boston
2030
those
really
important
planning
documents
and
making
sure
we
we
adopt
some
some
ways
and
means
by
which
we
can
achieve
the
goals
in
both
of
those
planning
documents.
So
so
we
we've
done
significant
planning
on
mobility
to
deal
with
population
growth
and
development
growth.
The
real
challenge
here
is
the
dollars
and
cents
associated
with
implementing
these
fixes.
Thank.
E
E
I
appreciate
that
so
much
and
I
generally
deal
with
my
Christopher
and
John
Greeley,
so
I'll
give
them
both
shout
outs,
they're,
always
immediate,
with
a
phone
call
or
a
text,
an
email-
and
you
know
we
have
not
quite
the
waterfront,
but
in
my
hometown
of
Revell
little
section
in
High
Park
that
I
love
we
have
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
did
the
walkthrough
with
us.
So
even
you
were
down
industrial
road.
Looking
around
saying.
Oh
my
god,
I
didn't
had
no
idea.
There
was
this
much
property
down
here.
E
So
you
and
your
staff
greatly
appreciated
the
work
that
you've
done
and
I
know
that
that
project
continues
to
kind
of
grind
along.
So
we'll
see
we're
out
with
that
163
million
dollars
that
you
mentioned
for
millennium
tower,
affordable,
open
space.
Do
we
have
anything
in
the
pipeline
any
thoughts
or
is
that?
How
is
that
actually
gonna
happen?
You
get
the
check
where,
where
does
that?
What
sure.
B
So
so,
very
simply,
with
the
with
the
the
project's
approval,
when,
when
the,
when
the
project
pulls
building
permits,
it
will
trigger
a
payment
of
a
hundred
two
million
dollars
to
the
city
of
Boston.
Now
that
the
bulk
of
that
hundred,
two
million
dollars
has
been
Spectre,
it's
been,
the
recipients
of
those
revenues
have
fundamentally
been
identified
through
the
sort
of
statements
of
priority
by
the
mayor
of
Boston.
B
As
you
may
recall,
the
hundred
two
million
is
going
to
be
used
to
make
make
improvements
to
Boston
Common
that
are
probably
a
century
or
more
past
due
so
Boston
Common
benefits,
Franklin
Park
benefits
from
historic
investment
in
in
in
improvements
and
affordable
housing.
Developments
in
both
East
Boston
in
South
Boston
will
benefit
from
that
revenue.
So
it's
going
to
go.
B
No
the
money.
The
requirement
to
pay
is
triggered
with
ultimate
issuance
of
the
permit,
but
the
actual
spending
of
that
money
will
take
multiple
years,
given
that
all
of
these
projects
are
phased
over
a
significant
period
of
time,
but
the
city
actually
will
take
custody
will
receive
the
money
shortly.
The
second
tranche
is
what
we
anticipate
to
be
about
61
million
additional
dollars.
Those
dollars
are
paid
as
sales
occur
of
the
condominiums.
They
were
tied
to
two
condominium
sales.
B
As
you
know,
this
is
a
significant
residential
development,
as
well
as
commercial
and
as
condominiums
are
sold.
A
per
square
foot
payment
is
required
by
the
the
development
and
the
owner
to
the
city,
so
the
second
61
million
dollars
comes
in
over
time
as
units
are
sold.
In
addition,
there
is
an
affordable
housing
requirement.
A
significant,
affordable
housing
requirement
required
for
a
residential
development
of
this
size
that
will
be
used.
B
First
of
all,
the
developer
expects
to
satisfy
that
obligation
by
creating
off-site,
affordable
housing
in
in
the
immediate
vicinity
likely
chinatown,
and
there
is
a
another,
affordable
housing
revenue
source.
In
addition
to
the
requirement
to
create
units
off-site
several
dozen
units
off-site
the
there
will
be
a
four
million
dollar
IDP
payment
made
by
the
development
developer
as
well.
That's
four
million
dollars
that
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
can
use
for
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
to
be
contemplated
at
a
later
date.
B
F
You
chair
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
I
have
a
few
questions
regarding
the
IAG
process,
which
is
often
the
spot
where
our
community,
our
residents,
civic
associations,
interact
most
directly
with
the
VP
DA
and,
in
particular,
the
mitigation
of
the
community
benefits
packages
that
are
developed
in
partnership
between
the
IAG
they
develop
are
the
your
staff
of
the
BPD
a
do
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
process
because
there
are
some
always
some
questions
about
the
clarity
of
the
process
or
the
sort
of
the
direction
of
the
process.
Sure.
B
And
there's
no
question:
we
think
that
that
the
process
has
served
the
city
well
for
much
of
its
history,
but
not
without
significant
criticisms
and
at
the
beginning
of
Mayor
Walsh's
second
term,
where
we're
very
actively
thinking
about
how
we
can
go
about
improving
the
current
reality,
both
as
far
as
the
role
of
an
ia
G
that
that's
an
important
consideration,
we're
wrestling
with
what
is
it
the
BIA
G
is
supposed
to
do
versus
what
it
is
that
an
ia
G
may
be
doing.
They
may
not
be
the
same
thing
and
then
second.
B
You're,
absolutely
right
and
in
getting
getting
Orthodox
consistency
and
in
how
I
AG's
behave
and
in
understanding
their
role
and
then
focusing
staying
in
a
narrow
lane
of
that
role
has
has
often
been
a
challenge,
because
we
are,
after
all,
dealing
with
individual
human
beings
who
see
things
differently,
see
things
see
their
role
differently
or
want
their
role
to
be
something
other
than
what
they
may
be
informed.
Their
role
is
so
simply
put
the
IO.
G's
were
a
creature
of
the
prior
administration.
B
The
prior
administration
wanted
to
create
a
vehicle
by
which
you
know
most
developers
go
out
and
visit
with
individuals.
They
visit
with
electeds.
They
visit
with
civic
associations
to
garner
support,
get
feedback
in
in
mitigate
impacts
of
the
proposed
project
before
they
they
advance
toward
consideration
by
the
BPD,
a
bore,
sometimes
that
that
mysteric
Lee,
who
was
a
concern
that
that
did
not
have
a
a
cohesive
sort
of
central
point
to
address
and
harmonize
requests
for
mitigation.
So
the
IU
Gees
were
created
by
the
prior
administration
for
a
very
specific
purpose.
B
What
are
the
effects
of
a
project
and
how
should
it
be
mitigated
seeking
consensus
through
a
variety
of
stakeholders
in
the
neighborhood
and
in
in
the
policy
that
was
created
focused
on?
First
of
all,
your
role
is
mitigating
impacts
of
of
proposed
projects
and,
and
then
a
mechanism
to
select
was
created
by
which
the
mayor's
office
identified
individuals
in
affected
neighborhoods
to
sit
on
the
ia,
GS
and
every
elected
official
who
represented
a
piece
of
that.
Neighborhood
would
also
have
the
opportunity
to
nominate
members
of
the
IAG.
The
reality
is
sometimes
electeds.
Don't
nominate.
B
Anyone
sometimes
electeds
have
a
whole
lot
of
people
they
want
to
put
on.
Sometimes
electeds
want
to
put
the
exact
same
people
on
over
and
over
again
because
they
trust
their
judgment.
They
know
that
they
have
respect
and
support
in
the
community
for
the
way
in
which
they
approach
development
decisions.
So
each
each
IAG
is
comprised
of
different
people
as
a
general
rule,
but
they're,
ultimately,
the
selections
of
the
local
electeds
and
including
the
mayor
of
boston.
B
So
the
agency
you
know,
turns
toward
local,
both
city
and
state
elected
officials
to
help
us
identify
people
to
to
just
to
perform
this
duty
of
mitigating
now.
The
reality
is
the
ia.
G
is
very
often
sprawl
that
there's
a
mission
creep
instead
of
focusing
on
well
here's
the
projects
that
that's
been
discussed
throughout
the
neighborhood
through
BPD,
a
meetings
through
meetings-
maybe
that
not
be
PDA
sponsored
but
but
hosted
by
the
developer
era.
B
The
the
sentiments
that
would
derive
from
a
variety
of
neighborhood
organizational
visits
that
you'll
have
a
whole
lot
of
inputs
and
I
think
the
notion
was
the
developer
works
with
the
community
broadly
to
gain
support
for
the
project.
But
then
mitigation
is
the
role
of
the
IAG
when
it
comes
to
mitigation,
that's
where
the
ia
G's
role,
really
kicks
in
I.
Think
it's
it's
safe
to
say
that
very
often
the
IAG
looks
at
the
whole
project.
B
It
is
functioning
as
a
civic
group
in
a
sense,
in
addition
to
mitigation
they're,
looking
at
the
merits
of
the
project
period,
and
so
that
again
that
gets
difficult,
trying
to
harness
and
Corral
diag
so
that
it
focuses
on
its
true
mission.
So
we're
wrestling
with
things.
How
do
what
do
we
really
want
the
IAG
to
do?
Do
we
want
to
continue
to
restrict
it
to
mitigation?
Do
we
want
it
to
be
a
broader
function,
and
so,
once
we
resolve
that
the
question
then
becomes
how
do
we
make
the
selections?
B
I
think
we've
been
loath
to
think
about
eviscerating
the
role
of
the
the
city
council
or
state
Reps
or
state
senators,
the
notion
of
sort
of
taking
that
role
away
from
you
all
concerns
me
greatly.
I
mean
people
have
suggested
it.
Maybe
there
are
too
many
people
appointing
the
same
people,
maybe
elected
like
a
certain
number
of
people,
and
you
need
to
break
it
up
fresh
blood.
B
That
kind
of
thing
we're
wrestling
with
this,
because
we
think
this
mechanism
has
given
you
a
voice,
each
of
you
as
well
as
your
colleagues
at
the
State
House
has
given
you
a
voice
in
in
in
in
in
the
the
composition
of
these,
the
these
organizations,
these
AI,
AG's
and
and
therefore
you
through
them,
have
have
input
you,
you
trust
their
judgment
and
you've
sent
them
our
way.
So
we
really
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
all
that
that
focus
is
on.
B
Do
we
have
the
right
people
doing
this
job
and
by
the
way,
what
is
the
job?
We
want
them
to
do.
I
think
again,
the
beginning
of
the
second
term
in
the
mayor,
it's
time
to
wrestle
with
that
question
once
again,
but
I'm,
sorry,
council,
we
don't
have
an
answer.
Yet
we
agree
that
there
are
problems
with
this,
but
we
we
don't
know
how
the
story
ends
yet
our
what
direction
we
should
be
going
in
in
2018.
Well,.
B
F
I
think,
then,
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
empower
AI
AG's
to
do
this
work
that
they're
fully
aware
of
their
charge
and
I
get
I,
get
that
it
that
mission
creep
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
to
describe
it
and
it
sort
of
goes
into
some
of
the
other
work.
But
I
think
that
those
two
things
go
hand
in
hand,
because
how
the
project
is
developed
does
impact
the
community.
No.
A
H
Thank
You
council
Co
Thank
You
director
golden
director,
Goldin
I,
was
down
at
the
South
Boston
waterfront
today,
I
know
you
were
down
there
and
you
know
the
most
significant
developments
I've
seen
down
there
and
in
many
years
was
the
open
was
the
ground
opening
of
the
Omni
Hotel
and
what
was
significant
about
it
was
women-owned
minority-owned
finance
construction,
I
thought
it
was
a
great
great
for
the
city
great
for
these
companies,
they're
hard-working
they're,
very
professional,
so
I
wanted
to
thank
the
city.
Thank
the
state
and
BP
da.
So
was
a
significant
development.
H
B
B
Now
we
broke
ground
the
councillors
referencing
a
groundbreaking
this
morning,
it's
right
across
through
from
the
Convention
Center
in
the
Seaport
tremendously
exciting,
from
a
from
a
just
bricks
and
mortar
development
standpoint
and
it
in
the
the
the
ability
of
this
project
to
serve
the
needs
of
not
just
the
Convention
Center,
but
the
needs
of
the
hospitality
industry
and
and
all
those
who
benefit
from
significant
tourism.
In
Boston.
We
have
an
under
supply
of
hotel
rooms.
B
On
the
same
time
now,
sport
was
issuing
that
rfp
and
granting
the
designation
to
the
current
developer.
We
shortly
thereafter
issued
an
RFP
for
parcel
12,
which
is
a
significant
parcel
that
an
old
urban
renewal
parcel
owned
by
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency
that
has
historically
been
used
as
a
parking
lot
on
tremon
street
in
chinatown.
Next
to
the
Wang
center
and
in
in
Tufts
Hospital.
B
So
we
have
a
team
that
that
responded
with
significant
component
pieces
that
react
to
our
our
expectation
that
there
be
solid
outreach
to
communities
that,
in
this
city,
have
traditionally
not
benefited
from
this
very
robust
development
climate.
So
we
think
that
we
have
a
very
similar
story
in
the
making
at
parcel
12,
which
I
believe
is
in
your
district
as
well,
is
to
think
it
bears
a
significant
resemblance
to
what
we
saw
at
the
Seaport
with
this
hotel.
B
And
we
are
committed
to
to
insisting
that
when
it
comes
especially
to
land
that
we
own,
you
know,
most
of
what
we
do
is
regulate
private
development,
private
development
on
private
land.
But
there
are
instances
where
we
actually
designate
a
developer
on
public
land.
So,
especially
when
it's
land
that
that
this
agency
owns,
we
feel
it's
it's
important
for
us
to
to
to
identify
goals
of
economic
inclusion
and
in
seek
participation
in
the
project
and
the
benefits
that
flow
from
the
project.
H
Thank
You
Anne
thanks
counselor
yeah
and
one
other
one
of
the
ratio.
I
know
you
highlighted
Chinatown,
not
a
significant
development
I've
seen
in
Boston
over
30
40
years
was
the
thanks
to
the
mayor
was
the
location
of
a
public
library
in
Chinatown
and
thanks
to
the
BPD,
a
staff
as
well.
I
know
it's
only
temporary
but
but
I
do
know.
You
are
committed
to
building
a
permanent
library
in
Chinatown.
I
know,
that's
gonna
be
significant.
It's
gonna
help
help
the
community
very
well.
I
was
down
at
the
library
a
couple
weeks
ago.
H
B
So
we're
we're
terrifically
excited
about
being
the
host
in
the
landlord
of
the
the
chinatown
library
services,
which
again
are
a
to
Boylston
Street
in
a
building
that
this
agency
owns
and
we
acquired
from
the
city
of
Boston
in
the
early
1990s,
so
that
building
is
full
of
life
as
you
identify
it.
It
hosts
the
urban
college,
which
provides
higher
ed
opportunities
to
populations
that
tend
not
to
have
an
easy
time
accessing
it.
B
In
this
city,
it
hosts
the
International
Institute,
which
primarily
provides
education
to
hundreds
of
immigrants,
we're
talking
first
generation
new
arrivals
here
in
Boston,
who
would
not
have
easy
access
to
such
services.
I've
been
to
both
these
are.
These
are
thriving
and,
and
they
hold
a
lot
of
promise
for
the
people
who
benefit
from
their
programs.
It's
a
it's
a
path
forward
in
life
that
we're
proud
to
play
a
role
in
by
by
owning
a
facility
in
leasing
the
places
to
those
significant
educational
organizations,
but
the
library.
B
We
believe
that
that
that
should
get
much
bigger
and
have
a
permanent
home
in
the
long
run,
but
because
it
has
been
missing
for
50
years,
thought
that,
in
response
to
both
the
the
request
made
of
us
by
Mayor
Walsh
and
by
the
demands
of
the
neighborhood,
people
wanted
this
return
for
the
first
time
in
half
a
century.
So
we've
started
in
you're
right.
It's
a
it's,
a
thriving
small
library,
a
buzzing
bee
hive
of
activity
and
we're
going
to
find.
B
We
expect
it
to
be
there
for
a
few
years,
we're
happy
to
have
it
there
as
long
as
it
it
desires
to
be
there.
But
we're
gonna
find
a
bigger
bonafide
branch
library
for
Chinatown
in
the
near
term,
and
some
of
the
developments
that
are
going
through
our
process
right
now
are
likely
to
yield
that
getting
back
to
parcel
12.
The
developer
is
very
publicly
stated
that
a
home
for
the
library
permanent
home
for
the
library
in
the
parcel
12
development
proposal
that
we're
now
looking
at
and
examining
could
be
feasible.
B
H
You
I
think
it's
a
great
addition
to
the
community.
I
see
elderly
grandparents,
taking
their
grandkids
to
the
library
and
they're
reading
and
Cantonese
and
the
reading
and
in
Mandarin,
and
it's
a
great
it's
great
for
the
community.
It's
a
great
great
way
to
spend
quality
time
with
with
each
other,
as
well
as
a
family.
H
The
other
issue
I
had.
Can
you
talk
about
the
MassPike
towers?
I
know
there's
some
ongoing
issues
as
it
relates
to
the
tenants
and
the
ownership,
but
I
would
never
want
to
see
a
tenant
be
kicked
out
of
that
that
that
location,
there's
otter,
there's
a
lot
of
immigrants.
There
there's
a
lot
of
low-income
families.
There
they've
been
in
Boston
for
a
lot
of
years.
Do
you
have
any
updates
on
what's
happening
at
the
Mass
Pike
towers,
so.
B
So,
very
briefly,
because
I
do
not
want
to
give
you
detailed
information
that
is
inaccurate
and
I.
Think
that
the
best
way
for
me
to
approach
your
question
is
to
bring
staff
down,
have
a
visit
about
the
particular
nature
of
the
affordability
there
and
in
what
the
mechanism
is
by
which
affordability
is
required.
I
believe
that
as
a
development
where
affordable
units
are
protected
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
and
that,
when
the
requirement
for
that
protection
expires,
that
the
the
landlord
could
move,
these
units
to
market
rate
units
we've
had
some
significant
successes.
B
When
I
say
we
I'm
not
just
talking
the
BPD
I'm
talking
the
city
and
sometimes
involving
our
state
partners
in
in
in
in
getting
involved
in
those
projects,
so
that,
before
affordable
units
convert
to
market
rate
units,
we
can
head
off
that
threat
in
in
in,
in
some
cases,
by
extending
affordability
through
a
variety
of
financing
mechanisms.
Usually
what
happens
is
in
in
this
does
pop
up
very
frequently
throughout
the
city
there
were
mortgages
issued.
B
You
know
many
decades
ago
our
financing
provided
for
these
projects
decades
ago,
that
required
the
affordability
for
a
specific
period
of
time,
not
perpetuity
and
that's
the
problem
that
the
protections
are
often
not
perpetual.
So
when
they
come
to
the
end
of
the
mandatory
affordability
period,
we
have
to
race
to
get
ahead
of
the
problem
and
are
headed
off
so
that
we
don't
see
the
kind
of
displacement
that
you
are
referencing.
B
I
know
that
that
the
challenge
of
maintaining
affordability
at
the
development
that
you
just
referenced
is
is
very
well
understood
in
City
Hall
by
both
mayor
Walsh,
the
Department
of
Neighborhood,
Development
and
I
know.
We
have
folks
in
our
agency
who
work
on
affordable
housing
issues
who
are
who
are
more
more
familiar
with
the
specifics
of
the
financing
in
the
potential
for
the
displacement.
So
we're
on
it
and
we'll
visit
with
you.
No.
H
Thank
you
I
think
that's
an
important
issue
and
I'm
100%
with
the
tenants
on
that
issue
and
just
as
it
relates
to
South
Boston
any.
Are
there
any
plans
for
new
zoning
procedures
for
South
Boston
I
know
what
neighbors
do
want.
They'd
love
to
see
a
minimum
lot
size
in
the
community
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
I
know
was
rezone
several
years
ago,
but
what's
the
what's
the
latest
on
that
sure.
B
B
There
were
some
unforeseen
impacts
to
that
rezoning
effort
that
caused
the
community,
some
significant
consternation,
and
we
have
basically
put
an
iPod
in
place
so
that
we
can
continue
to
look
at
the
effects,
some
of
them
unintended
associated
with
the
new
zoning,
so
that
we
can
get
some
of
these
wrinkles
out
of
it.
Before
we
revert
back
to
the
new
zoning,
where
yes,
we've
done
new
zoning,
but
we
have
an
iPod
in
place
in
an
overlay
district
that
allows
us
to
continue
to
review
the
effects
of
the
new
zoning.
H
We
also
have
on
Albany
Street
some
major
issues
with
traffic
with
parking
any
long-term
plans
on
what
the
traffic
likelihood
is,
as
it
relates
to
development.
It's
tough
getting
in
and
out
of
there
residents
are
complaining
about
the
area
in
this
major
proposals.
Going
up
I
just
want
to
see
what
your
thoughts
are
about.
The
traffic
sure.
B
B
In
that
new
zoning,
the
core
neighborhoods
are
extraordinarily
challenging
to
deal
with
from
a
transportation
and
a
mobility
standpoint.
The
downtown
is
more
congested.
The
south
end
is
the
Seaport
is
the
north
end.
Is
traffic
congestion
in
the
downtown
continues
to
occupy
a
lot
of
our
thinking
again
development?
Is
you
know
when
people
are
concerned
about
development
I'm,
not
saying
that
height
and
density,
don't
legitimately
vex
people?
Sometimes,
when
people
talk
about
the
concerns
about
too
much
development,
very
often
it's
about
the
congestion
and
the
mobility
issues
associated
with
it.
So
again
we
have.
B
B
You
know
whether
it's,
whether
it's
through
mass
transit,
whether
it's
through
multimodal
you,
know,
bikes,
pedestrian,
vehicular,
MBTA,
we're
looking
at
all
modes
associated
with
the
with
with
with
transportation,
especially
in
the
neighborhoods
that
are
seeing
the
the
biggest
numbers
of
square
feet
developed
and
again.
That
is
the
the
core
downtown.
But
it's
been
a
challenge.
Frankly,
since
the
80s,
when
when
the
South
End
became
an
extraordinarily.
B
Hot
real
estate
market
in
real
estate
development
market.
So
we
we
take
all
this
to
heart
and
we're
we're
very
concerned
about
making
sure
that
developers
are
in
vesting
in
the
infrastructure
necessary
to
get
the
people
who
are
going
to
live
in
those
developments
in
the
south
and
moving
around
efficiently
Thank
You
director
Thank.
I
I
I
B
I
A
B
B
G
I
B
For
the
agency,
we're
not
we're
not
bound
by
the
city's
residency
ordinance,
because
the
city's
residency
ordinance
can't
bind
the
BPD
a
since
we're
a
creature
of
state
law.
But
we
do
as
a
matter
of
board
policy.
There
is
a
there
is
a
policy
at
the
agency
which
was
passed
by
the
agency's
board
requiring
residency
for
the
first
ten
years
of
employment.
So
how.
B
Have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
number,
but
I
do
know
this.
It's
I
have
seen
that
number
in
fairly
recent
history,
the
vast
majority
live
in
the
city
and
regardless
of
whether
they're
bombed
by
the
residency
requirement
or
not
they're
a
whole
lot
of
people
who
have
timed
out
it
past
the
10-year
mark,
but
continue
to
live
in
the
city.
The
numbers
are
very
high
when.
I
I
When
you
had
mention
that
the
part
of
the
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
this
isn't
continues
to
be
an
inclusive
City,
you
know
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
I
have
is,
when
you
see
an
agency
that
is
not
reflective
of
the
demographics
of
the
city
planning,
the
future
of
the
city.
Those
communities
that
you're
planning
for
are
not
at
the
table.
I
would.
B
Say:
I:
don't
have
the
breakdown
here,
but
I'm
also
happy
to
get
get
it
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're
talking
about
the
agency
writ
large
you're
right,
the
numbers
are
what
the
numbers
are.
If
you,
if
you're,
actually
interested
in
what
the
Planning
Division
looks
like
I,
think
it
just
happens
to
be
the
case
that
it
it
looks
different
there.
A
variety
I
can't
begin
to
discern
sort
of
the
historical
patterns
and
and
the
reasons
why
people
of
different
races
may
or
may
not
be
attracted
to
the
profession
that
we're
engaged
in.
B
B
B
So
we
were
aggressive
in
our
HR
efforts
to
get
in
front
of
not
just
populations
with
the
right
skill
sets
that
we
need
to
do
the
work
we
are,
but
but
to
your
point,
counselor
to
get
a
workforce
that
looks
like
the
City
of
Boston
I.
Think
that's
important
I
think
that
people
strive
for
that
through
the
bureaucracy
of
City
Hall
and
we're
no
different
I
love
to
get
the
numbers
up
and
I
think
we're
working
aggressively
to
do
that.
B
We've
got
a
far
more
sophisticated
recruiting
effort
in
recent
years
at
this
agency
and
when
it
comes
to
staff,
hiring
and
staff
recruitment
and
in
again
it's
only
been
a
couple
years,
but
I
would
like
to
think
we'll
will
bear
fruit
in
the
near
term.
But
we
try
to
get
where
we
need
to
be
to
tap
into
the
skill
set
and
in
a
workforce
that
can
respond
to
the
needs
of
a
diverse
population
and
diverse
neighborhoods.
I
B
I
B
B
Parcel
12,
which
we
mentioned
as
a
future
development
site
for
housing.
That's
a
parking
lot.
We
have
a
parking
I'm.
Sorry,
no
I'm
gonna
get
to
that
for
sure,
but
I'm
talking
the
assets
are
either
buildings
that
are
leased
our
ground
lease
and
parking.
Those
are
those
are
some
significant
I'd
say
the
parking
all
together
is
probably
above
Park
parking,
not
including
the
garage
at
the
Marine
Park
at
the
flume
Marine
Park.
There
is
a
garage
there.
B
That's
a
revenue
producer,
most
of
the
people
who
work
in
the
Marine
Park
park
there,
but
the
three
Lots
sergeant's
Wharf,
there's
a
lot
of
Fulton
Street
in
the
north
end.
There's
a
lot
at
parcel.
12
and
tremon
Street
I'd,
say
they're
about
three
million
dollars
per
hour,
just
short
of
three
million
dollars
of
the
62.
I
B
Vast
majority
one
significant
outlier
to
that,
though,
is
of
the
62
million
dollars.
Eight
owd,
which
trend
spoke
about
earlier
this
afternoon,
Oh
WD,
the
mayor's
office
of
Workforce
Development
with
which
operates
as
a
part
of
the
BPD.
A
that
is
an
18
million
dollar
piece
of
the
budget
and
about
fourteen
million
of
that
is,
is
either
grant
funding
or
linkage
funding
commercial
linkage,
funding
that
goes
to
finance
workforce
development
programs.
So.
I
Of
the
land
and
buildings
that
you
have
I
know
that
you
have
the
powers
to
buy
to
sell
and
you
have
eminent
domain,
and
you
may
not
have
that
information
in
front
of
you
right
now.
But
I
would
like
to
know
how
much
of
the
land
and
properties
that
you
own
you've
actually
purchased.
How
much
was
actually
part
of
a
merger-
and
you
know
the
the
coming
together
of
your
agencies
and
how
much
came
to
you
through
eminent
domain
yeah.
I
B
I'd
say:
well:
we
acquired
the
Charlestown
Navy
Yard
from
from
the
United
States
Navy,
and
so
its
acquisition
from
the
federal
government
it
was
for
it
was.
It
was
for
fairly
short
money,
I
think,
because
we
essentially
picked
up
a
massive,
dilapidated
toxic
waste
site.
So
we
acquired
that
the
federal
government
shut
down
the
Navy
Yard
and
wanted
to
relieve
itself
of
the
obligation
to
operate
the
Navy
Yard,
as
well
as
to
clean
it
up.
The
Marine
Park
was
a
joint
army/navy
base,
which
we
acquired
not
that
long
after
the
Charlestown
Navy
Yard.
B
I
I
know
you
don't
have
the
specifics,
but
it's
I'm
just
curious
about.
You
know
again
how
we
got
here,
how
you
wetlands
and
how
you
got
them
and
because
I'm
really
particularly
curious.
Also,
if
and
if
you
have
this
number
I'm
not
sure,
but
how
much
money
you've
actually
negotiated
in
terms
of
pilot
payments
for
the
city
of
Boston.
B
I
B
B
So,
if
you're
doing
a
121
a
very
often
what
that
involves-
and
it's
jointly
approved,
it's
approved
by
both
the
Boston
planning,
a
development
agency,
the
120
way,
but
also
the
city
of
Boston
City
of
Boston
assessor's
office,
generally
negotiates
a
6a
contract
which
is
instead
of
ad
valorem
property
taxes,
property
taxes
based
on
the
value
of
a
property
like
we
all
pay
in
our
homes.
That's
chapter
59
straight
property
taxes.
B
The
relief
usually
manifests
itself
in
a
121
a
when
it
comes
to
the
tax
portion
of
the
121,
a
the
the
so-called
tax
relief
you're,
not
paying
chapter
59
taxes
in
a
121
a
but
you're
paying
a
6
a
contract
schedule
of
payments.
So
what
people
like
about
that?
Is
the
tax
certainty?
It's
you
are.
You
have
got
for
decades
a
schedule
of
payments
that
you
know,
you're
you're
gonna
make
and
that's
different
than
what
you
might
be
paying
if
it
was
based
annually
on
the
value.
I
I
We're
going
to
have
a
hearing
about
pilot
payments,
we're
gonna
be
discussing
how
agencies,
including
Massport,
for
example,
pays
pilot
payments
and
I'm
curious
with
the
income
that
you're
making
and
the
lands
that
you
have.
Has
the
BPD
ever
considered
making
pilot
payments
to
the
city
of
Boston
the.
I
B
Tens
of
millions
of
dollars-
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
the
number,
but
we
again
we
don't
track
that.
That's
a
relationship
between
the
city
of
Boston,
the
assessor's
office
I
believe
primarily
may
be
the
treasurer.
But
the
city
negotiates
in
receives
pilot
payments
from
our
properties,
both
at
marine
industrial
park
and
at
the
Charlestown
Navy
Yard.
So
so
there's
a
lot
of
pilot
money
paid
by
our
tenants
to
the
city
of
Boston.
I
B
B
The
tenants
the
tenants
would
pay
us
would
pay
us,
usually
a
ground
lease
payment
and
they
pay
the
city
a
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes,
or
they
may
actually
pay
the
city
chapter
59
taxes,
which
is
increasingly
the
norm.
The
the
history
of
funding
these
properties
is
is
crazy.
Quilt,
it
is,
it
is
complicated,
but
for
a
long
period
of
time,
the
way
the
city
derived
revenue
from
properties
at
the
Navy
Yard
and
in
the
Marine
Park,
was
through
pilot
payments.
B
Again
lease
payment
to
the
agency
that
owns
the
dirt,
the
ground,
ground,
lease
payment
to
us,
and
you
pay
your
taxes
to
the
city
and
in
in
for
many
years.
That
was
in
the
form
of
a
pilot,
and
you
know
the
reality
is.
The
pilot
was
often
very
advantageous
to
the
tenant,
because
it
was
a
concession
to
lure
somebody
into
these
places
where
nobody
wanted
to
be,
as
these
properties
have
matured
and
they're
downright
very
desirable,
to
live
and
work
in.
B
Obviously,
we
don't
have
any
residential
development
in
the
Marine
Park,
but
there
there's
a
lovely
residential
neighborhood
in
the
Navy
Yard,
as
these
properties
became
more
mature,
more
desirable
in
the
economics,
their
economic
viability
was
clear.
The
city
began
to
expect
that
the
pilots,
when
they
were
near
expiration,
would
would
give
way
to
a
chapter
59.
So
we
see
that
on
a
regular
basis,
pilots
are
going
away
in
being
replaced
by
chapter
59
property
taxes
which
are
based
on
value,
as
opposed
to
a
schedule
of
set
its
best
specific
payments.
J
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
thank
you
director
golden,
certainly
appreciate
the
questions
and
comments
by
my
colleague,
councillor
Edwards,
around
the
diversity
of
your
team
and
the
earlier
comments
by
councillor
Flynn,
you
mentioned
earlier
having
a
Boston
that
is
inclusive
for
all
and
I'm
interested
in
understanding.
How
you
measure
success
and
whether
or
not
Boston
is
going
in
the
right
direction.
So.
B
B
Say
take
it
from
the
macro
and
then
we'll
bring
it
down
to
maybe
not
in
a
granular
level
of
detail
but
more
detail.
Our
job
is
to
drive
the
economy
of
Boston
in
a
positive
direction,
that's
sort
of
our
core
mission
and-
and
we
do
that,
our
charge
legislatively
from
1957
Ford
was
to
grow.
The
city's
economy
grow
the
city's
tax
base.
So
we're
doing
that
and
arguably
in
the
past
five
years,
we've
done
that
maybe
better
than
we
ever
have.
B
We
have
record
square
footage
of
development
occurring
over
the
past
five
years
that
that
that
translates
into
tens
of
thousands
of
jobs.
We
look
at
the
unemployment
rate
for
the
city
of
Boston,
which
is
significantly
below
this,
the
unemployment
rate
for
the
state
of
Massachusetts
and
unemployment
rate
for
the
state
of
Massachusetts
as
significantly
below
the
the
national
unemployment
rate.
So
there
are
some
certain
gross
measures.
The
amount
of
economic
activity
underway
is
is
paying
dividends
for
a
lot
of
people
now.
Is
there
a
significant
divide
from
one
segment
of
the
population
to
another?
J
B
Relative
to
that
of
a
Caucasian
family
right,
big,
big
difference
and
the
way
we
get
at
that
is
is
through
a
variety
of
mechanisms.
Obviously,
we
we
have
limited
tools
at
our
disposal
to
affect
macro
outcomes
in
a
fundamentally
free
market,
so
we're
we're
dealing
with
large
market
forces
and
trying
to
harness
them
for
the
greater
good
of
people.
So
we.
J
Direct
I
just
want
to
kind
of
focus
on
the
equity
and
engagement
piece,
so
you
talked
about
driving
the
economy
and
we
certainly
have
this
big
boom.
But
there
are
several
people
being
left
out.
You
point
out
the
economic
disparities
and
the
wealth
gap
I'm.
You
know
really
curious
to
how
we
as
a
city
could
have
invested
18
billion
dollars
in
building
a
brand
new
neighborhood
that
has
left
so
many
people
out
and
I'm.
Talking
about
the
Seaport
sure.
B
J
So
if
you
could
talk
about
what
lessons
you've
learned
from
that
experience,
what
you're
doing
now
to
try
to
rectify
that
see?
I
see
that
as
a
big
problem,
just
to
be
very
clear
and,
in
addition
to
my
questions
around
the
Seaport
I
would
like
to
kind
of
Zone
in
on
some
of
the
activity
that's
happening
in
my
district
of
district
7
and
specifically
planned
Dudley.
J
You
mentioned
in
your
earlier
remarks,
massport
and
how
you
were
able,
through
that
RFP
to
do
something
that
we
have
not
seen
the
city
and
before
and
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
that
and
I
know,
there's
a
draft
RFP
for
plan
Dudley
and
I'd
like
to
to
see
that
have
more
weight.
So
again,
coming
back
to
the
seaport,
the
18
billion
dollars
that
was
invested
in
creating
a
brand
new
neighborhood
that
is
largely
segregated
by
race
and
income.
J
J
B
Just
just
to
take
one
the
when
we
talk
about
economic
inequities,
you're
doing
a
point
out
point
out
a
couple
things:
we
we
have
some
limited
tools
to
us
to
to
improve
the
economic
well-being
of
individuals
and
families
in
this
neighborhood
in
a
couple
of
key
regards
and
we
we
exploit
them
regularly
and
with
really
profound
beneficial
effect,
affordable
housing.
You
know
one
in
five.
One
in
five
units
in
this
city
have
some
kind
of
deed
restriction
that
render
them
affordable
a
couple
years
ago.
I'm.
B
Sorry,
a
couple
months
ago,
some
HUD
data
was
analyzed
by.
It
was
a
study
that
was
published
in
the
Seattle
Times
that
talked
about
metropolitan
areas
with
the
highest
numbers
of
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing
Boston's
far
in
a
way
ahead
of
all
of
our
peers
in
the
country
at
twenty
six
percent.
So
we've
got
in
the
metro
area,
twenty
six
percent.
We
know
that
at
a
minimum,
what
we're
permitting
over
the
past
several
years
is
is
one
in
five
have
got
some
kind
of
deed
restriction
and
that's
both
with
regard
to
affordable,
rentals,
affordable
ownership.
B
We
think
that
matters.
We
also
think
it
matters
that
we're
providing
workforce
development
opportunities
to
2,300
Bostonians
every
year,
through
fifteen
million
dollars.
We
spend
on
Workforce
Development
again
with
an
eye
toward
how
do
we
help
people
get
a
leg
up
in
an
economy
that
is
robust
but
is
not
serving
the
interests
of
everybody
to
the
same
extent,
so
we're
spending
significant
resources
to
get
people
the
job
skills
that
they
need
to
compete
in
this
in
this
very,
very
pricey
economy
that
we're
dealing
with
want
to
make
sure
again,
everybody
has
access
to
quality
jobs.
B
B
J
B
Yep,
so
the
premise
is
that
I
think
that
that
sort
of
pervaded,
that
story
is
that
we
have
a
tool
that
we
have
a
tool
that
we
have
not
used,
that
we
haven't.
We,
we
have
not
had
the
interest
in
using
a
tool
that
that
enhances
the
opportunities
to
live
and
work
and
do
business
in
the
Seaport
or
invest
in
the
Seaport
and
and
reap
the
rewards
of
the
positive
development
climate
over
there
that
somehow
we
have
a
tool
that
we
can
use.
I
choose.
J
Me,
sir
I
don't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
I
would
suggest
respectfully
that
18
billion
dollars
is
a
pretty
big
tool
to
leverage
around
creating
these
opportunities
and
I.
Think
the
example
of
the
massport
RFP
is
another
way
of
opening
up
the
door.
I
really
do
appreciate
that
there
is
the
deed,
restricted
housing
that
we
have
and
and
where
we
are,
there
I
think
it's
also
important
that
we're
looking
at
the
middle-income
housing,
an
even
market
rate,
has
its
place
in
Boston.
J
J
It's
not
to
try
to
put
you
on
a
in
a
hot
seat,
but
really
what
are
we
going
to
do
now
that
that
has
happened?
What
are
we
going
to
do
differently
to
make
sure
that
we're
opening
up
the
door
so
that
Boston
truly
is
living
up
to
its
ideal
around
being
an
inclusive
city,
and
that
we
can
take
the
lessons
and
apply
it
through
other
development
in
our
city?
I?
Do.
B
G
B
Real-Estate
development,
the
city,
but
what's
really
important
and
I,
think
what
has
to
be
borne
in
mind
when
you
look
at
the
Seaport,
the
vast
majority
of
the
development
is
private
structures
being
built
on
private
land.
We
have
very
limited
ability
to
dictate
terms
to
private
entities.
Massport
did
what
we're
doing
fundamentally
on
property
that
it
owned.
Massport
owns
the
property
that
Omni
Hotel
on
the
hotel
broke
ground
on
this
morning,
we
own
the
property
over
in
Chinatown,
parcel
12
on
Tremont
Street.
B
That
gives
us
more
to
work
with
frankly,
legally
and
constitutionally,
we
have
more
to
work
with
there
to
achieve
outcomes
desired
social
and
economic
justice
outcomes
than
we
do
on
private
land
and
I.
Think
that
what
has
often
informed
this
conversation
about
the
Seaport
is
a
notion
that
we
can
dictate
terms
to
developers
on
private
land
that
we
cannot
dictate.
Okay,.
J
B
The
cause
of
inclusion
when
it
comes
to
to
reaping
are
achieving
benefits
from
the
development
of
public
property,
so
I
think
again.
Another
model
come
out
from
a
different
way.
It
was
through
an
MoU
at
the
time
that
the
developer
was
selected,
but
it
is
frankly,
probably
the
most
expensive
piece
of
land
the
City
of
Boston
will
have
ever
sold
and
and
one
of
the
most
significant
development
projects
in
the
city's
history,
it
is
the
largest
building
when
it's
completed
will
be
the
largest
building
in
the
city.
B
J
Partly
shade
that
I
know
my
time
is
running
short,
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
to
switch
around
the
plan
dudley
process,
so
you
would
mention
that
you've
taken
some
of
the
mass
port
language
and
applied
that
to
water
parcel
12.
Is
it
I
think
some
of
that
language
has
also
been
incorporated
in
the
draft
RFP
for
plan
deadly,
which
is
really
important?
Some
language
around
inclusion,
diversity,
I,
think,
is
really
important.
J
The
anti
displacement
language
is
very
important,
but
there
are
still
concerns
that
residents
have
voiced
I'm
sure
you
get
the
reports
from
many
of
the
meetings
that
I
also
attend
a
morning.
If
you
could
just
speak
more
generally
and
then
I
will
use
the
second
round
to
kind
of
go
into
more
detail
but
I'm,
just
if
you
could
give
an
overview
of
the
plan
where
we
are
in
that
process.
The
plan
dudley
process
sure.
B
As
you
know,
the
the
both
the
BPD
a
owns
some
parcels
in
in
the
plan:
dudley
geography,
as
does
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development.
We
are
seeking
to
put
multiple
of
those
parcels
out
for
redevelopment.
Some
of
them
are
significant
in
size
and
scale
and
others
more
modest.
We
continue
to
wrestle
with
with
some
of
the
issues
and
involved
in
the
languages.
You
may
know,
there's
been
a
hot
debate
about
good
jobs,
language
in
and
that
is
traditionally
when
we
have
these
conversations
about
jobs
as
it
relates.
B
The
development
is
who's
benefiting
the
work
and
construction.
Now
that
that
conversation
has
gone
a
step
further,
what
kind
of
jobs
are
going
to
be
on
the
site
when
these
buildings
are
built
and
there's
retail
or
commercial
activity?
What
kind
of
jobs
are
they?
What
do
they
pay?
What
are
the
benefits?
Who
gets
to
benefit
from
them?
There's
there's
some
really
significant
legal
issues
tied
up
in
that
as
well.
How
can
we
once
we
identify
a
developer,
continue
to
regulate
it?
Can
we
use
it
through
a
ground
lease
or
through
the
conveyance
mandate,
certain
outcomes?
B
So
there's
a
legal
question,
but
second,
and
almost
as
important
is
even
if
some
of
the
suggestions
that
are
being
floated
with
regard
to
the
good
jobs
standards
are
are
believed
to
be
legally
and
constitutionally
sound.
Will
they
work?
Will
people
be
attracted
to
the
development
sites
if
they're
they
feel
that
their
tenants
are
going
to
have
to
deal
with
with
wages
and
benefit
and
in
other
kinds
of
restrictions
and
controls
well
into
the
future?
So
this
is.
B
This
is
a
brave
new
world
as
far
the
there's
a
lot
that
people
are
trying
to
accomplish,
first
and
foremost,
what's
the
nature
of
the
development
team
who
benefits
from
the
development
who
builds
it
in
who
benefits
as
an
equity
stake
holder?
These
are
opportunities
to
develop
wealth
and
and
we'd
like
to
see
that
occur
for
diverse
community
and
that's
important.
But
then
these
these
follow-on
questions
of
who
gets
the
jobs.
What
will
they
be
paid
and
what
is
the
mega
regulatory
mechanism
by
which
we
require
this
of
a
developer?
B
It
it's
complicated,
stuff,
I,
think
we
we
aspire
to.
You
know
similar
outcomes
that
we're
seeing
at
mass
part
and
parcel
12
when
it
comes
to
the
development
team
in
who
shares
in
the
equity
benefits
of
building
a
new
development.
But
these
these
other
issues
continue
to
linger.
And
frankly,
we
just
we
haven't,
worked
them
out
yet
I
think
we
feel
we're
close.
We
don't
want
to
miss
the
opportunity
to
get
these
parcels
developed.
This
remains
obviously
a
very
strong
economy.
B
B
Sometimes,
when
we
talk
about
these
numbers
that
are
being
suggested
for
mandates
on
on
the
new
jobs
that
will
be
hosted
by
these
new
developments,
we
think
it's
going
to
scare
people
away
we're
very
concerned
about
people
being
scared
away
from
these
developments
by
by
onerous
mandates
above
beyond
the
period
of
construction.
As
long
as
the
parcel
is
around
least
I.
J
K
I
wanted
to
start
because
the
the
council
had
held
a
hearing
on
flooding
a
little
while
ago
and
obviously
you
know
great
concern
every
weather
season
now
in
Boston,
so
in
terms
of
resiliency
and
flooding,
particularly
at
Long,
Wharf
I
see
there's
plans
for
some
expenditures
around
design
plans.
What
do
you
what's
the
thinking
around
that
and
what
changes
might
be
proposed?
K
B
So
councilor
were
we're
looking
everywhere.
Obviously,
Long
Wharf
captures
the
public's
imagination,
because
in
in
in
the
early
months
of
this
year,
we
had
multiple
instances
we're
a
long
walk
was
underwater
and
people
were
actually
careening
about
in
boats
on
Long
Wharf
on
Atlantic
Avenue
near
near
the
Greenway.
So
Long
Wharf
is,
is
historically
a
significant
problem
site
and
if
we're
dealing
with
you
know
multiple
feet
of
sea
level
rise
by
2070
and
20
20
100
that
that's
important
but
we're
looking
all
all
the
way
along
the
water's
edge
a
first
and
foremost.
B
What
can
we
do
to
make
sure
that
anything
built
there
is
resilient,
that
it
can
handle
the
the
rising
tide
literally
and
once
in
article
37,
gives
us
a
really
good
tool
to
use
with
that
regard.
Article
37
is
the
checklist,
the
resiliency
checklist
that
seeks
to
ensure
that
these
buildings
can
either
resist
or
live
with
water,
so
I
think
as
far
as
property
that
has
been
developed
in
recent
years
and
going
forward.
Article
37
has
been
a
really
worthwhile
ineffective
tool
in
making
sure
that
new
properties
are
resilient.
B
B
Christopher,
Columbus
Park,
if
Christopher
Columbus
Park
were
raised,
it
could
play
a
significant
role
in
in
in
in
halting
the
advance
of
the
harbor
to
the
interior
of
downtown.
The
Martin
Richard
park
is
going
to
play
a
significant
role
about
once,
strung
together
with
other
elements
along
Fort
Point,
to
create
a
barrier
in
a
coping
mechanism
and
some
some
of
these.
The
the
nitty-gritty
issues
that
we're
looking
at
along
Long
Wharf
and
also
these
storm
traps,
so
stormwater
I'm,
sorry
I'm
taught
the
tides
rise.
B
They
they
enter
into
the
the
discharge
mechanisms
for
groundwater
in
in
the
city
of
Boston.
They
backflow
into
those
and
pop
up
elsewhere
in
the
city.
So
it's
basically
a
backup
from
the
harbor.
We
have
antiquated
fixtures
that
should
be
blocking
that
entry
of
seawater
into
the
downtown.
It's
a
significant
effort.
It's
not
glamorous!
It's
not.
K
B
L
If
I
could
add
yes,
the
50,000
is
really
to
look
at
the
problem.
It's
more
more
short-term
approach,
really
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
stable
platform
there
at
Long
Wharf.
We
have
an
existing
infrastructure
that
literally
dates
back
to
the
19th
century,
so
the
50,000
is
really
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
what
the
infrastructure
is
and
to
make
it
stable,
because
it
is
a
gateway
to
the
harbor
out
to
the
islands
and
there's
so
many
other
are
parts
of
the
Greater
Boston
area.
Ok,.
K
B
Sure
so,
I
think
the
best
way
to
handle
that
is
probably
to
bring
our
folks
down
to
have
a
conversation.
We're
happy
to
do
that
in
in
any
forum.
I
I
think
the
most
important
thing
to
keep
in
mind
about
there.
Article
37
is
it
was.
It
was
really.
You
know
a
leader
in
the
effort
to
regulate
development
with
an
eye
toward
resiliency
and
initially
the
development
community
balked,
and
it
was
viewed
as
another
mandate
again
at
it
it.
It
starts
out,
as
a
checklist
tell
us
what
you're
doing
to
address
these
things.
B
Many
people
would
have
criticized
it
on
the
other
on
the
non
development
side
saying
it
didn't,
have
sufficient
teeth,
yeah
to
require
outcomes.
What
we
have
found
is
that
most
developers,
it's
only
been
around
for
a
few
years.
It
most
developers
have
embraced
the
resiliency
checklist
because
they
know
it's
in
their
interest.
It
protects
their
property
in
the
vicinity
of
their
property,
their
investors
like
it
because
it
protects
the
investment
and
their
insurers
like
it,
because
it
protects
them
against
significant.
B
K
Great
okay
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
couple
things
that
came
up
in
other
councillors:
questions
as
well,
so
in
terms
of
the
115
Winthrop
Square
or
the
weather
Square
garage
project.
When
hasn't
already
closed.
It
has
the
sale
closed.
When
will
it
closed
and
how
much
will
be
paid
at
closing
to
the
city
so.
B
G
B
The
bold
building
permits
are
pulled
from
the
inspectional
Services
Department
that
triggers
a
hundred
two
million
dollar
payment,
the
first
tranche
and
that's
the
the
money
that
has
been
identified
by
the
mayor
as
supportive
of
the
Boston
Common
Rehabilitation
ever
at
the
Franklin
Park
effort,
a
an
affordable
housing
development
improvement
effort
in
South
Boston
and
in
East
Boston.
So
that
hundred
two
million
dollars
is.
B
I'm,
sorry,
yes,
that
too
sorry
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
laps
and
then
there'll
be
another
tranche
of
60.
We
expect
it
to
be
about
sixty
one
sixty
two
million
dollars
that
will
flow
from
the
project
directly
to
the
city
baton
and
that
will
flow
based
on
sales
of
units
that
some
was
tied
toward
the
sale
of
the
condominiums
and
it's
a
per
square
foot
rate
that
is
paid
to
the
city.
We
expect
it
to
be
about
sixty
one
sixty
two
million
dollars,
but
again
that
flows
as
the
units
are
sold.
Okay,.
K
B
K
B
B
That
was
that
was
a
subject
of
significant
debate.
There
were
concerns
about
whether
or
not
the
agency
would
end
up
frankly
benefiting
from
too
much
of
that
revenue,
so
the
MOU
that
was
negotiated
had
very
limited,
provided
a
very
limited
opportunity
for
the
agency
to
recover
any
cost
and
I.
Believe
it's
a
nominal
sum
thus
far.
It
was
the
last
time
I
had
a
conversation
about
this.
It
was
the
the
reimbursements
to
the
agency
for
some
of
the
expenditures
made
pursuant
were
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
I
I
don't
know
what
numbers
today.
H
B
Done
you
know
it's
logged
in
the
120s
rope,
but
I
do
want
to
clarify
something
counselor
on
the
flow
of
the
hundred
million
dollars.
One
hundred
million
dollars
does
apparently
come
through
us
to
the
city
and
I
think
it
comes
through
us
because
we're
still
technically
the
owner
of
the
property.
Okay,.
G
K
B
I,
my
under
stuff,
okay,
as
well
as
my
own
GE,
indicated
several
months
ago,
that
it
was
going
to
slow
down
the
development
of
its
new
headquarters
building.
However,
the
GE
headquarters
is
in
fact
already
here:
they
rehabilitated
two
historic
Wharf
buildings
over
near
Fort,
Point
and
there's
a
vacant
lot
that
was
going
to
serve
as
the
development
site
of
the
new
headquarters
building.
So
the
headquarters
is
there,
it
is
doing
business
out
of
the
two
historic
structures
that
have
been
rehabilitated.
B
M
B
M
Gentlemen,
Brian
two
quick
shoutouts
first
to
Kate
Sullivan,
the
woman
who
greets
every
every
visitor
to
the
to
the
ninth
floor.
I
had
two
friends
who
got
married
at
City
Hall
last
week.
They
want
to
take
a
picture
in
front
of
the
model.
Room
and
Kate
was
was
a
wonderful
ambassador
for
your
agency.
She.
M
You
and
jondells
Elle
has
been
a
great
partner
to
us
as
we've
been
working,
my
colleagues
and
I
in
trying
to
discuss
Net
Zero
Carbon
housing,
just
offering
his
expertise.
His
ideas
and
I
want
to
get
to
that
in
a
minute.
I
just
want
to
tick
through
some
of
these
questions.
First,
do
you
track
the
vacancy
rate
in
buildings
that
you
permit.
B
B
M
B
M
B
So
in
the
year
ahead,
I
think
we're
bullish
I
the
year
ahead
may
be
busier
than
what
we've
seen
for
the
past
four
or
five.
Oh,
yes,
no
I
I
think
it
may
be
busier
in
the
following
context:
not
not
necessarily
bigger
numbers
coming
through
the
door
seeking
approvals
at
the
DPD,
a
I
think
it's
gonna
be
busy
more
generally.
B
There
is
a
feeling
look
I'm,
just
looking
at
basic
economic
history
at
a
very
macro
level,
we're
about
to
become
the
longest
economic
recovery
since
World
War,
two,
the
longest
economic
recovery
since
World
War,
two
was
91
to
2001
I
think
was
just
shy
of
of
10
years.
We're
about
to
pass
that
there's
almost
no
scenario
in
which
I
think
we
we
could
see
not
meeting
attaining
that
sort
of
milestone.
B
We're
gonna
pass
a
ten
year
recovery.
The
question
then
becomes:
how
much
longer
does
this
go
on
I
hope
it
goes
on
much
longer,
but
the
best
predictor
of
future
behavior
is
often
past
behavior
and
we
just
don't
see
them
go
longer
than
10
years.
Maybe
this
is
different.
So
if
that's
the
case,
I
was
just
out
at
the
Urban
Land
Institute
gathering
in
Detroit
two
weeks
ago,
which
is
frankly
full
of
a
lot
of
developers,
a
lot
of
people
who
do
nonprofit
development
as
far
as
well
as
for-profit
real
estate
finance.
B
Folks
in
public
regulators,
such
as
myself,
we're
out
there
with
some
of
the
team
from
the
BPD
a
there
seems
to
be
this
consent,
and
it's
kind
of
obvious
we're
at
a
very
mature
state
in
this
economic
recovery
and
in
this
cycle,
so
whether
this
all
ends
in
2019
2020
2021,
but
by
the
way,
the
the
best
guess
for
when
you
start
to
see
the
downturn
nationally.
Two
weeks
ago,
again
at
the
Uli
from
all
the
finance
types
was
2020
that
you
might
see
that
nationally.
But
there's
a
caveat
to
that.
B
There
are
other
places
there,
parts
of
the
country
that
are
so
hot
they're,
so
desirable
from
a
real
estate
investment
standpoint
that
they
may
not
see
it
till
significantly
later.
So
the
nation
could
see
a
downturn
as
a
whole
before
a
place
like
Boston
or
Seattle
or
San.
Francisco
does
so
I
think
the
way
we
look
at
it
is
very
mature
state
of
recovery,
a
very
mature
point
in
this
economic
recovery,
and
that
is
prompting
people
to
move
very
aggressively.
B
M
There's
some
concern
I
think
I
reached
out
some
of
your
colleagues
on
there's
one
particular
project
we
can.
If
you
don't
know
now,
we
can
talk
offline
but
1225
Center
Street,
that's
in
a
conservation
protection
in
sub
district.
Would
that
call
for
sort
of
the
full
article
80?
Probably
even
though
it's
a
relatively
small
project,
would
it
call
for.
B
M
B
So
we're
permitting
at
least
one
in
five
at
a
a
one
in
five
are
affordable
and
that
might
be
low
income
that
might
be
deep,
affordable.
It
might
be
workforce
housing,
middle-income,
affordable.
That
does
one
in
five.
First
of
all,
it's
only
one
in
five
in
the
past
several
years,
yeah
does
that
address.
It
addresses
a
piece
of
of
existing
in
new
demand.
It
doesn't
exist,
address
by
any
means
the
entirety
of
the
backlog
of
demand.
B
You
know,
if
you
do,
if
you
look
at
this
simply
the
city's
the
city's
population
is
broken
into
three
major
economic
tranches.
There's
about
forty
percent
of
the
city
makes
less
than
sixty
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
household
income
of
less
than
sixty
thousand
dollars.
Forty
percent
of
the
city
makes
between
sixty
and
150,
and
then
twenty
percent
of
the
city
is
over.
150,
though
those
are
the
three
basic
you
know
we
could.
We
could
pass
the
data
and
ensure
those
up.
B
You
know
a
household
income
of
60
is
a
lot
different
than
a
household
of
150,
but
a
household
income
of
60,000
with
one
individual
in
that
household,
not
as
stressful
as
a
household
didn't
come
with
of
60
with
four
people
in
the
household,
so
that
date
only
tells
you
so
much,
but
addressing
the
needs
of
a
population
that
is
forty
percent.
Forty
percent
of
households
below
sixty
I
think
very
roughly.
B
That
tells
you
sort
of
the
magnitude
of
the
demand,
but
here's
the
good
news
20%
of
what
we
permit
is
deed,
restricted
into
some
category
of
affordable,
but
there's
another
20%
of
what
we've
been
permitting
over
the
past
four
years
is
affordable
from
the
the
standpoint
of
market
conditions.
There
is,
in
fact,
development
that
occurs
in
this
city.
B
B
Good
you're
right,
there's
good-faith,
disagreement
on
this,
but
I
personally,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
the
agency
I
can't
speak
for
all
227.
We
don't
believe
the
market
can
take
care
of
everything,
but
we
not
by
a
long
shot,
but
we
think
the
market
can
take
care
of
some
of
us.
The
market
is
producing
housing
for
people
at
different
income
levels.
B
We
see
the
30
million
dollar
luxury
penthouse
is
downstairs,
but
we
also
see
more
modest
development
in
in
neighborhoods
where,
where
the
with
a
product
is
easier
to
afford
and
look
we've,
so
so
in
the
past
four
years
we've
seen
11,000
units
built
another
9,000
underway
and
another
10,000
that
have
been
approved,
but
not
yet
underway.
So
we
roughly
got
30,000
units
of
the
mayor's
53,000
unit
goal
addressed
in
some
fashion.
That's
a
lot
of
units
30,000.
M
M
B
G
B
Their
residential
buildings
develop
with
nobody
in
them,
we're
not
at
any
risk
of
that.
The
worst-case
scenario
I
say
this
is
developers
all
the
time
if,
if
you're
wrong-
and
there
isn't
a
market
for
at
your
price
point
for
your
product,
I,
don't
think
we
really
care
I,
don't
think
the
regulator
really
cares.
We'd
love
the
market
to
get
softer
yeah.
G
B
You
sometimes
I
think
people
have
this
concern.
Remember
the
last
recession
remember
seeing
the
story
of
the
guy
who
bought
a
penthouse
in
Miami,
and
he
was
in
a
300
unit
building
and
he
lived
at
the
penthouse
and
the
entire
apartment
building
was
empty
yeah.
So
he
lived
in
the
ghost
tower
through
these
stories
of
the
go
stars.
The
things
that
were
built
in
there
ultimately
was
no
market
for
them
that
couldn't
be
sold
or
rented.
We
don't
have
a
history
of
ghost
towers
in
this
city.
B
M
M
It
then
came
back
like
a
like
a
lion
and
I
refinance,
but
I
worries
more
less
about
the
developers
that
build
those
luxury
buildings
as
much
as
some
of
the
folks
of
middle-income
folks
who
were
able
to
buy
a
house
in
just
the
volatility
the
market.
My
time
is
up
I
neglected
when
I
was
recognizing
some
of
your
employees
to
mention
Maria
Mercurio,
who
has
done
a
masterful,
wonderful.
A
Before
we
give
it
off
off
to
Frank
I
wanted
to
mention
the
trend
you
have.
The
annual
report
that
you
just
put
out
I
would
encourage
all
of
my
colleagues
to
read
through
it,
there's
some
great
things
going
on
and
with
the
money
that
we're
getting
through
a
lot
of
these
projects.
These
linked
at
this
linkage,
money
and
trend
I
just
want
to
encourage
the
distribution
of
that
if
we
haven't
already.
Thank
you
Baker
thank.
N
B
N
I
want
to
pick
up
on
Matt's
maths,
questioning
there
and
I
get
what
you're
talking
about
that
we're
not
the
worst
case
is
then
the
developer
gets
gets
lesson
his
or
her
price
point.
But
that's
a
little
bit
concerning
because,
like
I've
been
saying
almost
like
a
broken
record
for
the
last
couple
of
weeks
is
the
one
of
the
first
neighborhoods
it
turns.
N
Is
mine
and
I'm
getting
ready
to
you
know
in
line
a
couple
thousand
units
right
right
around
us,
so
that
I
mean
I
think
we
do
run
the
risk
of
possibly
having
that
that
housing
like
an
apartment,
glut
almost
just
because
I
think
we're
looking
at
53,000
over
12
years,
we've
done
it.
We
we've
we've
reached
the
high
mark
and
it
just
doesn't
add
up
to
me
and
I
think
you
know
me:
I'm
Pro
development
I
want
to
see
things
built.
B
The
one
thing
I
want
to
I
want
folks
to
keep
in
mind.
This
is
this
I
know
I've
actually
uttered
these
words
here
before,
but
I
think,
given
the
context
of
this
conversation
that
bear
repeating
when
we
talk
about
the
potential
for
a
lot
of
units,
whether
rental
are
are
condominiums
ownership
opportunities,
we
have
to
keep
sort
of
the
demographic
boom
in
mind.
This
city
is
growing
at
a
really
significant
clip
with
regard
to
population.
B
The
building
boom
is
driven
by
one
really
important
reality:
a
demographic
boom
nineteen
eighty
city's
population,
post-world
War,
two
bottoms
out.
We
lose
a
third
of
our
population
between
1950
and
1980
800,000
people
down
to
five
hundred
fifty
thousand
people
in
1980
it
was
yesterday.
I
was
at
Latin
school
but
I
always
remember.
We
were
in
this
rock
early
80s.
We
were
always
at
five
55
60,
never
budged,
and
that's
because
we
really
weren't
budging
nineteen.
B
Eighty
we
bottomed
out
at
five
fifty
we
started
adding
about
a
thousand
to
fifteen
hundred
people
a
year
between
1950
and
I'm,
sorry,
nineteen,
eighty
in
2010.
So,
in
thirty
years
we
added
fifty
thousand
people
over
the
course
of
30
years,
pretty
anemic
growth
for
a
period
that
long,
but
a
thousand
fifteen
hundred
people
per
year
from
2010
to
2050
five
thousand
people.
So
fifty
thousand
people
over
the
course
of
30
years
followed
by
50
thousand
people
over
the
course
of
six
years.
That's
what
we're
dealing
with
where
instead.
N
B
So
our
research
department,
but
other
in
we're
cross-checked
on
this-
it's
not
just
us.
As
you
may
know,
we
have
a
research
department
about
80%
of
what
they
do
actually
is
for
the
city
not
20%
for
us,
but
they're
really
talented
and
they
crunch
numbers,
that's
what
they
do
for
a
living.
They
we
actually
for
the
first
time
that
any
of
us
know
of
we
hired
a
demographer,
a
professional
demographer,
to
assess
a
what's
the
what's
the
character,
what
are
the
characteristics
of
the
current
population
and
what
does
it
look
like
going
forward?
B
So
we
have
a
research
division
at
also
this.
The
same
type
of
work
occurs
over
at
MAPC
mass
area,
Planning,
Council
and
and
we
collaborate
and
in
and
try
to
identify
what
we
think
is
a
reasonable
minimum
as
well
as
a
maximum.
But
what
is
the
consensus?
Number
we
all
think
is
coming
our
way
by
2030
the
the
best
assessment
of
the
future.
B
What
is
yet
to
come
is
that
this
population
surge
that
we've
been
seeing
for
the
past
six
seven
years
begins
to
taper
off
but
does
not
go
back
to
like
1500.
One
thousand.
Two
thousand,
they
believe
in
a
taper
off.
This
is
interesting
recently
they've
been
they've,
been
thinking
that,
looking
at
the
rate
of
job
creation
and
again
to
your
point,
the
demography
is
chasing
its
perceived
opportunity.
People
are
coming
here
are
staying
here
after
they
get
out
of
college
because
they
perceive
good
jobs
in
a
good
quality
of
life
being
present
for
them
here.
B
So
that's
why
they're
coming
to
the
extent
we
see
a
contraction,
the
creation
of
new
jobs,
you'd
see
those
numbers.
You'd
expect
those
numbers
to
decline
right
now,
as
maybe
people
gonna
stay
around
when
they
get
out
of
the
graduate
program
at
bu,
if
they
think
there's
a
better
opportunity
and,
frankly,
in
a
more
affordable
place
to
live
elsewhere.
So
we
watch
trends
like
that.
B
A
laundry
list
of
companies
that
have
come
here
are
shown
interest
in
coming
or
expanding
their
operations
because
because,
in
the
wake
of
the
GE
relocation,
so
research,
both
internal
in
the
building,
as
well
as
the
nonprofit's
outside
who
look
at
demography,
believe
that
you'll
see
this
taper
with
with
with
economic,
with
fewer
jobs
being
created.
But
a
couple
weeks
ago
they
just
revised
the
numbers
up.
Our
numbers
were
revised
up.
B
We
thought
it
was
in
a
taper,
we're
back
to
thinking
they're
going
to
remain
pretty
robust
because
of
the
because
of
the
relocation
and
the
expansion
of
business.
Just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
whether
we
get
HQ
to
or
not
from
Amazon
we're
still
in
the
hunt
there
and
I
think
we're
a
real
serious
player
in
that
conversation
and
those
deliberations
by
Amazon.
B
But
whether
we
get
Amazon
or
not,
they've
already
announced
and
moving
2,000
people
to
the
Seaport,
with
a
distinct
likelihood
of
another,
a
second
tranche
of
2,000
and
that's
separate
and
apart
from
HQ.
So
this
is
chicken
and
the
egg
stuff
it
to
the
extent
we
continue
to
see
job
creation.
Here
we
expect
to
see
significant
demographic
populations.
B
B
N
B
N
B
Vacancy,
so
we
look
at
in
in
that
we
can
get
a
certain
degree,
just
as
a
you
know,
from
as
a
as
a
consumer
in
the
marketplace.
We
can.
We
know
what
the
what
the
commercial
and
residential
real
estate
brokerage
firms
tell
us
about
you.
You
see
these
numbers
in
banker
and
tradesmen
in
the
Boston,
Business
Journal.
What's
the
vacancy
rate,
and
and
where
is
it?
Where
are
we
seeing
it?
We
don't
see
much
of
a
vacancy
rate
residentially
anywhere
in
the
city.
It's
you.
N
G
B
N
B
N
So,
along
that,
when
you
guys
are
permitting
and
you're
dealing
with
big
buildings,
how
often
do
developers
come
in
and
do
master
leases?
We
talk
about
Massa
leases
a
little
bit.
How
are
they
used
as
tools?
Do
the
developers?
Let
you
guys
know
that
that
they're
planning
on
doing
a
master
lease
or
is
that
something
that
happens
after
it's
so.
N
Airbnb
comes
in
and
makes
it
makes
an
offer
50
units
in
a
hundred
new
in
a
building.
How
often
does
that
happen?
Does
that
like?
Like
do
we
know?
We
not
we,
but
when
a
developer
or
a
project
is
in
front
of
the
BR
a?
Is
that
a
question
that
we
asked?
We
asked
if
they
gonna
master
lease
or
that's
more
past,
where,
when,
when
the
permits
were
already
released,
and
so.
B
It's
it's
a
complicated
subject,
because
our
governing
power
on
on
development,
both
the
residential
commercial,
is
article
80,
an
article
80
talks
about
you,
know:
development
of
housing.
It
charges
us
with
the
the
task
of
vetting,
what
is
an
appropriate
size
and
density
for
the
use
of
housing
and
the
the
notion
of
regulating
what
happens
in
that
housing
after
two
very
very
often
people
say
we
want
to
make
sure
if
it's
condos
they're
all
owner
occupied,
not
you
can't
do
not.
B
B
It
is
for
certain
developers,
because
in
the
in
the
instances
where
we've
seen
it,
it
seems
to
be
driven
by
the
fact
that
they
see
it
as
very
much
in
their
interest
to
lock
up
a
few
dozen
units
and
take
the
uncertainty
out
of
the
renting
individually
apartment
by
apartment.
It
seems
to
be
something
that
certain
developers
find
very
appealing
because
it's
one-stop
shopping,
maybe
for
dozens
of
units.
B
When
we
permit
a
residential
development,
we
don't
really
walk
down
that
road
in
attempting
to
regulate
whether
or
not
a
landlord
could
take
several
units
in
in
master
lease
them
to
a
corporation,
whether
it's
the
Airbnb
or
or
some
other
entity
that
wants
to
sort
of
run
an
operation
of
multiple
units
of
short-term
residential
housing.
We
don't
get
involved.
B
We
don't
know
what
the
enforcement
mechanism
of
that
could
be,
how
how
would
the
BPD
a
we
don't?
We
don't
have
an
enforcement
mechanism
for
such
a
thing
literally
going
to
to
these
developments
and
trying
to
identify
whether
or
not
these
short-term
rentals
were
occurring
or
not.
It's
something
beyond
our
capacity.
L
B
Water
resident
yep,
you
know
Mike's
Mike's
weighing
in
and
I
agree
with
them.
Can
we
regulate
this?
Can
we
restrict
a
property
owners
ability
to
lease
multiple
units
to
someone
else,
whether
it's
frankly
a
family,
whether
it's
you
as
a
as
an
affluent
person
who
just
wants
to
go
master
lease
all
these
corporation,
whether
it's
here
in
Airbnb
or
not
article
80,
doesn't
give
us
that
authority.
B
You
may
be
able
to
carve
out
authority
like
that
through
no
ordnance,
but
article
80
does
not
present
us
with
that
with
that
tool.
So
we
may
be
in
situations
where
neighbors
are
demanding
things
and
maybe
that's
a
condition
of
their
support.
That
will
have
an
effect
on
on
what
happens
in
the
public
conversation
with
the
developer.
Maybe
they
can
push
a
developer
to
make
commitments,
but
we
can't
extract
those
commitments.
That's
at
least
our
belief
right
now.
Okay,.
N
C
C
We
serve
about
2,600
Boston
residents
and
career
pathway
jobs,
and
we
we
really
shifted
from
using
neighborhoods
jobs,
trust
from
a
rapid
job
placement
model
to
more
career
pathways
that
allow
higher
wages,
employer,
sponsored
benefits
and
tuition,
reimbursement
or
tuition
free
for
low-income
students
and
so
annually.
We
serve
about
600
and.
C
It
really
depends.
We
are.
We
look
at
actually
outcomes
first,
so
we
really
do
more
evidence-based
practices
and
look
at
large
job
growth
industries
depending
for
the
for
two
to
five
years,
and
so,
if
it's
in
construction
health
care,
if
it's
in
hospital
in
the
hospitality
industry,
which
is
a
growth
area,
we
like
to
see
wage
higher
wages
in
that
industry.
So
best
core
hospitality
is
on
that
top
list.
We
have
Jewish
vocational
services
on
that
list.
We
have
the
Urban
League.
N
C
Have
about
15
who
are
high
on
that
list?
We
also
look
at
geography,
so
where
are
where?
Should
we
be
investing
in
the
linkage
in
hardest
to
reach
neighborhoods,
we
invested
in
East
Boston
heavily.
We
also
invested
in
Dorchester
in
the
Roxbury
area,
so
you
know
the
linkage
dollars
that
we
received
from
high-growth
areas
from
developments.
We
tried
to
reallocate
that
in
low
income
neighborhoods
to
make
it
more
equal.
Okay,.
N
C
Small
linkage
dollars
go
there.
One
is
downtown.
One
won
the
bid
this
year
for
another
three
years
of
operating,
one-stop
Career
Center's,
that's
Jewish
vocational
services,
that's
in
downtown,
okay,
where
it's
conveniently
located
the
second
one
is
in
Roxbury
the
operator
is
a
goodwill
memorial
and
that
is
located
on
1010
mess
up
as
well.
Okay,.
N
C
We
found
that
those
industries
to
be
so
they're,
not
necessarily
Boston
based
jobs.
We
look
at
all
regional
industry
placements,
so
there
are
more
in
administration,
education,
health
care,
human
services,
construction,
so
high
growth
areas
we
do
there
are
in
the
hospitality
industries,
but
not
the
higher
wage.
We
found
that
best
core
local
26
is
the
best
model
because
of
the
wage
progression,
yeah.
N
C
N
N
O
N
N
A
B
Don't
mean
to
be
too
cavalier
about
that,
but
I
do
think
as
the
right.
You
know
the
regulator,
but
also
we
have
in
in
public
policy
goals,
which
is
to
create
a
significant
number
of
new
units
of
housing
with
as
much
affordability
as
possible,
and
we
think
you
know
the
markets
part
of
that.
The
more
of
these
we
build.
B
A
Just
thinking
in
that
those
terms
is
as
the
longest
consecutively
surfing
counselor
I
was
here
in
a
way
when
the
bottom
fell
out
right
values,
property
values
went
down
for
several
years.
They
actually
didn't
start
coming
back
until
2012.
So
when
you
say
this
is
the
longest
recovery,
it
is
a
homeowner.
I
didn't
see
that
recovery
until
2013
you're.
A
And
that's
when
the
property
values
actually
came
back
to
where
they
were,
probably
in
oh
six,
which
was
probably
the
previous
high
we
were
facing.
Foreclosures
rental
prices
were
certainly
flat
and
stable,
and
in
my
neighborhood
anyway,
yeah
I
think
you
know
on
the
development
issue.
I
think
you
know
that
I've
been
a
supporter
of
appropriate
good
development.
Most
of
the
development
in
my
neighborhood
I
think
has
been
in
underutilized
industrial
unused
areas,
namely
Boston
landing,
big
Honeywell,
where.
A
All
over
right,
I
just
think
that
we're
touching
nerves
with
people
and
when
you
say
stuff
like
a
precipitous
drop
I,
would
just
be
careful
because
a
lot
of
the
the
projects
and
the
and
the
ia
G's
that
I'm
talking
to
and
a
regular
basis,
I
think
they
might
not
say
it
out
loud,
but
I
think
they
are
worried
about
their
own
personal
property
values.
I.
Think
that
they're
worried
about
if
they're
gonna
be
able
to
rent
their
second
floor.
A
Three-Bedroom
and
I
I
have
always
erred
on
the
side
of
more
development,
because
I
think
we're
getting
to
a
place
where
prices
are
stabilizing.
That's
what
I'd
like
to
see
stabilizing
for
a
while
right,
I
I
had
tenants
upstairs
anecdotally,
I
charged
them
1600
for
three
bedroom
up
until
two
years
ago
for
five
years
straight
never
raised
their
rent,
then
it
you
know
I
creeped
it
up
a
little
bit
and
I.
Think
that's
you
know.
I
know!
The
rocky
pit
tends
to
do
that.
A
What
I'm
seeing
now
is
I
am
seeing
a
softening
in
the
market
and
and
I
think
that's
somewhat
a
good
thing.
Softening
I
don't
want
to
see
a
precipitous
fall,
though,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
anxiety
in
the
neighborhoods
and
obviously
you
know
you
know,
what's
going
on
in
our
neighborhood
you're,
not
only
a
friend,
you're,
a
constituent,
right
and
I
think
that
there
we
are
drawing
from
the
same
people,
because
we
have
seven
article
80
projects
going
at
the
same
time.
A
Like
and
I
know
you
don't
have
control
over
who
files
plans
and
but
we
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
at
I.
Don't
know
how
you
do
it
like
legally,
can
you
do
it?
I,
don't
know
spacing
it
out,
people
are
fatigued
I'm
doing
all
these
prize.
I
just
got
a
comment:
lettuce,
seven
pages,
long,
right
and
I
know,
and
let
me
first
say
that
you
know
I
want
to
echo
the
comments
that
Tim
said
earlier,
especially
about
my
Christopher
and
Jonathan
gray,
Lee
and,
and
you
have
great
planners
and
staff
they're
very
responsive.
A
Unfortunately,
lately
some
of
the
responses
weren't,
but
you
know,
I've
tried
to
work
with
the
BPD
a
in
a
in
a
constructive
way
over
the
years.
I.
Just
think
that
there
is
just
and
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
I
just
think
that
we
should
look
at
that
and
understand
better
what
people
in
the
neighborhoods
are
feeling
and
and
try
to
I.
Don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is
and.
B
You're
right
wait.
First,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity,
maybe
clarify
my
remark
about
the
softening
or
precipitous
drop.
What
I'm
speaking
to
is
eyeing
a
property,
so
you
know
the
reality
is,
though
there
are
extremely
expensive
new
products
coming
online,
both
rentals
and
condos,
and
if
those
prices
dropped
such
that
a
whole
lot
of
people
may
be
in
a
middle-income
realm,
not
at
the
highest
end
of
affluence
that
we
see
in
in
sort
of
the
downtown
demographic.
That's
a
good
thing.
I,
like
the
idea
of
softening
prices,
opening
up
opportunity.
B
G
B
Not
what
I
was
getting
at
I
just
think
that
a
significant
increase
in
supply
will
help
soften
prices
and
if
the
developer
and
the
owner
doesn't
end
up
quite
achieving
the
return
they
want,
I
mean
I
want
them
to
achieve
returns
so
that
they
have
an
incentive
to
build.
There's
no
question:
that's
why
we're
rooting
for
for
their
return,
but
I.
That's
not
really!
That's
a
means
to
an
end.
Yeah
they
make
money.
B
But
what
I
care
about
is
because
they're
making
money,
they
will
build
product
and
that's
a
good
thing
and
the
more
that
they
build
the
more
opportunities
that
will
be
for
for
the
cost
of
units
to
soften
a
bit.
Just
for
is
a
bit
of
perspective,
though,
about
why
we
think
this
will
have
an
effect
for
the
greater
good.
B
The
reason
I
thought
260
makes
sense
is,
if
there's
a
if
there
is
an
average
occupancy
of
about
2.4
people
per
unit.
Let's
face
it.
Occupancy
of
units
is
much
smaller
than
it
was
in
the
70s
of
the
50s.
These
aren't
necessary
families
of
you
know
6
or
7
living
in
these
units
anymore.
So
if
it's
about
2.3
people
per
unit
at
260,000
units
that
gets
us
both
to
the
population
we're
talking
about
now.
B
G
A
B
We
need
planners
and
last
year,
as
you
point
out,
we
had
we
did
not
attain
the
numbers
we
sought
to
attain
that
the
size
of
the
agency
we
wanted
to
be
bigger
than
we
were
primarily
because
we
want
to
build
up
planning.
I'm
gonna,
do
good,
solid,
granular,
Community
Planning
in
the
city's
neighborhoods,
so
the
mayor
Walsh
wants
that
is
our
goal
and
we're
intent
on
getting
there.
We've
got
about
ten
planning
efforts
underway
right
now,
but
we
so
we
had
some
key
vacancies
blessing
and
a
curse.
B
Really
good
economy
pulls
people
away
it's
hard
to
hold
people
on
public
salaries,
often
when
there's
a
whole
lot
of
night
work,
especially
with
regard
to
community
planning
so
hard
to
hold
people.
Both
lifestyle
and
compensation
make
it
a
real
challenge
to
attract
people
with
the
credentials
and
the
skill
sets
we
need
so
we're
right
back
at
it,
though
we
lost
some
key
people
and
we
were
not
able
to
fill
some
of
the
new
vacancies
that
we
created.
B
We
budgeted
new
positions
so,
but
we
we
weren't
able
to
fill
some
of
those
and
we
lost
some
key
people.
We
were
just
redoubling
our
efforts
to
a
point
I
made
earlier
about
recruiting
efforts.
We
had
to
step
up
our
game.
You
know
up
until
oh
wait.
Oh
no
I!
Well
through
13
people
were
thrilled
with
with
these
kinds
of
public
sector
incomes
and
benefits,
but
with
pressure.
G
B
A
Two
last
things
you
mentioned
earlier
too,
that
we're
in
desperate
need
of
hotel
rooms.
Can
you
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
because
and
I'm
gonna
reference,
our
chair
of
government
ops,
you
know
we're
in
the
throes
of
trying
to
grapple
with
the
you
know.
The
host
sharing
stuff-
and
you
know,
I,
think
we're
a
little
short
on
good
data.
To
be
quite
honest,
I
think
Frank
alluded
to
it
earlier
week.
You
know
why
can't
we
get
vacancy
rates?
A
So,
like
you,
know,
I'm
asking
I,
guess
Council
of
lera
T
if
he
thinks
that
they'd
be
a
value
to
bring
some
of
the
researchers
down
from
the
b
ra
to
one
of
our
hearings
to
speak
to
demographics,
vacancy
rates,
buddy
Christopher
says
we
have
160,000
units
you're
saying
to
60
I'm,
saying
4,000,
Airbnb
ease,
you
know
as
related
to
160,000
units
is
a
lot
worse
than
260,000
units
in
how
it's
impacting
the
market.
So
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
you
think
that's
a
an
idea
was
we're
kind
of
searching
for
good
data.
A
B
Yeah
I,
don't
I
I
feel
okay
about
my
260,000
units
of
housing,
number
there's
about
a
hundred
thirty
thousand
buildings
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
that's
everything
else.
That's
commercial!
That's
academic!
That's
institutional!
At
the
hospital!
If
we
were
only
at
160,000
units
of
housing
that
would
be
about
an
average
occupancy
of
five
people
for.
A
Lastly,
you
talked
about
with
all
the
development
we
need
to
improve
our
transportation
and
we
are
limited
to
what
we
can
do
as
a
city,
even
though
we
we
have
leaders
like
councilor,
especially
with
the
MBTA.
However,
in
Austin
bright
and
I.
Think
might
you
know
this?
You
know
this
new
concept,
this
TM
a
transportation
management
Association.
We
have
several
developers
paying
into
it
at
this
point
in
time.
Do
we
have?
Can
we
start
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
mechanism
would
be,
but
it
it's.
It
envisions
a
shuttle
service.
O
O
So
what
will
happen
is
the
first
phase
that
is
actually
studying
so
at
EMA
isn't
necessarily
a
it's
a
transmitted
management,
it's
kind
of
a
system,
so
it
could
lead
to
a
shuttle,
could
lead
to.
You
know
another
significant
transportation
kind
of
investments.
You
know
they
kind
of
look
at
the
area
strategically,
and
they
continue
to
study
the
area
and
recommend
things
that
the
city
can
be
doing
better
as
it
relates
to
transportation
and
actually
take
some
of
those
on
so,
as
relates
to
st.
O
A
Terminal
I
was
just
gonna
say:
I
just
got
a
call
from
John
Sullivan
we're
gonna
meet
and
I'm
assuming
they're
gonna
start
that
and
I
know
that
you
know
I
sent
my
aide
up
there
just
the
other
day
and
again,
this
isn't
a
knock
on
the
project
management.
I,
think
they're
overworked
when
when
I
AG
members
call
me
to
advance
their
concerns
at
the
last
minute
because
they
didn't
get
to
communicate
it
then
I'm
gonna
step
in
all
the
time.
A
So
I
again,
you
know
we
should
look
at
your
project
managers
workload
because
I
think
they
they're
they're
wrong.
I
mean
I,
have
like
six
in
my
neighborhood
right
now,
different
ones:
I
used
to
have
one
J
Roark.
That
was
it
so
there
is,
you
know,
need
I,
think
and
I
think
they're
doing
the
best.
They
can
I.
Think
the
ia
G's
to
your
point
earlier
are
expanding
their
scope,
but
they
deserve
the
answers
if
they're
giving
their
time
so
I
anyway,
I've
exceeded
my
time
so
counsel
of
Larry's
back.
D
Quick
little
dive
on
the
capital
I
see
that
particularly
dry
dock
for
develop
and
design
a
permanent
to
close
of
drydock
for
case
in
the
IRF
Arif
MP,
for
pier
six
and
with
also
Black
Falcon
terminal,
maybe
kind
of
run
me
through
something
what
some
of
those
are
and,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
dry
dock,
for
is
the
dry
dock.
That's
been
sort
of
rumored
at
one
point:
I
think
the
previous
administration
want
to
put
City
Hall
out
there,
which
was
asinine
suggestion,
but
nonetheless
it
still
lays
remains
vacant.
But
we've
talked
about
a
park.
D
L
Known
to
drydock,
for
it's
a
site
that
we
have
this,
the
administration
that
has
invested
a
good
deal
of
money
over
over
the
past
a
few
years
who
was
a
site
that
was
damaged
during
the
severe
winter
of
2014
and
2015.
We
need
to
at
least
to
secure
the
site.
So
that's
what
the
funds
would
be
expended
for
I
tried
to
talk
for
trying
to
drydock
six.
We
have
made
improvements
all
along
that
area.
L
Last
year
we
completed
the
improvements
on
pier
5
right
along
the
edge
of
the
park,
so
this
is
a
continuation
of
our
investment
in
the
infrastructure
along
the
waterfront
on
Black
Falcon
Avenue,
we
or
in
the
process
of
completing
the
engineering
study,
but
this
will
call
for
a
reconstruction
of
Black
Falcon
Avenue,
as
it
goes
up
up
until
thunk
up
until
the
cruise
port,
and
we
would
expect
to
want
to
take
that
sometime
later
in
this
calendar
year.
So.
B
B
B
Just
talk
about
caissons,
and
so
when
the
caisson,
we
spent
money
to
bring
the
case
and
back
in
to
sit
back
into
the
into
the
into
its
its
rightful
position,
but
it
was,
it
was
so
badly
damaged
that
that
whole
apparatus
does
not
is
not
sealed
tight,
so
no
matter
what
we
do
with
for
and
that
money
isn't
really
to
figure
anything
else
to
figure
anything
out.
But
how
do
we
get
the
case
and
back
in
place
so
that
we
can
seal
off
the
ingress
of
the
ocean?
B
D
B
A
good
place-
and
it
was
frankly
Hey-
it
was
Snowmageddon,
there's
all
kinds
of
records
of
snow
there's.
You
know
hundreds
of
hydrants
and
shop
and
carriages
in
there
this
by
the
time
it's
over,
you
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
Mount
Everest
worth
of
snow,
pushing
again
right
that
the
caisson
Anna
knocked
it
out
and
then.
D
I'd
like
to
reiterate,
obviously
my
colleague,
councillor
Flynn,
on
the
iPod
overlay
that
we
work
together
on
that
was
that's
paid,
huge
dividends.
Neighborhood
appreciates
it
and
it's
kind
of
calmed
things
down.
Obviously,
sometimes
the
developers
particularly
ones
that
want
to
level
single-family
homes
and
put
six
eight
ten
units
they
don't
like
it,
but
but
the
neighborhood
thanks.
D
So
whatever
the
next
steps
are,
quite
frankly,
I've
gotten
comments
that
they
they
would
like
it
extended
indefinitely.
You
know
so
so.
I
think
that
the
minimum
lot
size
is
probably
a
key
piece
to
sort
of
moving
forward
on
that
wanna
touch
base
on
which
I
don't
see
here
in
the
budget
barf
the
the
bar
fund,
the
bar
foundation,
so
they
make
regular
contributions
to
to
the
VRA
for
stuff.
Can
you
I,
like.
B
B
D
D
D
The
point
and
then
the
I
AG's
want
to
follow
up.
My
colleague,
councilman
Easter,
savvy
Georgia
talked
about
the
IEDs
and
just
my
recollection,
the
ia
G's
was
an
attempt
to.
Basically
it
was
right.
After
this,
after
the
cell
boss,
embedment
trust
around
the
conventions
and
a
stuff
blew
up.
It
was
a
way
by
the
previous
administration
to
try
to
get
a
control
of
the
community
process,
so
the
Institute
of
these
impact
advisory
groups.
D
But
at
the
time
the
concern
was
that
the
Southwest
impediment
Trust
was
negotiating
benefits
on
behalf
of
the
community
mitigation,
if
you
will
and
that
they
were
trying
to
get
away
from
that
and
did
I
understand
correctly,
that
the
ia
GS
are
designed
to
steer
the
mitigation.
You
know
that's
the
case.
D
I
find
a
problematic
as
elected
representatives
working
with
you
know,
developers,
neighborhood
groups,
community
groups,
the
BPD,
a
I,
don't
think
we
should
have
residents
in
a
position
where
they're
cutting
deals
at
their
kitchen
table
with
developers
on
things
that
they
think
are
important
or
organizations,
they're
part
of
or
foundations
that
they're
part
of
or
sports
teams
that
they
coach
and
participate
in.
That
are
getting
like
new
uniforms
and
do
bats
and
balls
been
there
all
of
a
sudden
cheerleading
for
the
developers,
like
we
I,
said,
I,
think
that
sets
up
a
real
bad
situation.
D
I
think
I
AG's
are
good
to
direct
the
impacts,
the
height,
the
density,
the
parking,
the
traffic,
the
materials,
whether
it's
gonna
be
brick
or
it's.
You
know:
structural
steel,
glass,
sort
of
the
aesthetics
of
it,
but
when
it
comes
to
getting
down
to
negotiating
community
benefits
on
behalf
of
the
community,
that
should
be
in
partnership
and
concert
with
the
BPD,
a
and
in
the
elected
representatives
that
are
elected
by
the
people
to
make
those
decisions.
Sure.
B
We
share
your
concerns
and-
and
we
converse
about
this
with
with
some
regularity,
the
and
I
think
the
crucial
distinction
here
is
mitigation
versus
community
benefits
that
that
may
be
a
term
of
art
that
most
of
us
conflate,
but
mitigation
is
usually-
and
this
is
what
was
envisioned
as
the
role
for
the
IAG
is-
is
what
are
the?
What
are
the?
What
are
the
effects
of
this
project?
What
are
the
impacts
and
what
are
the
specific
things
we
can
do
to
mitigate
those
impacts?
Big
dense
thing:
are
you
gonna?
B
Do
some
open
space
create
a
new
Park?
Do
you
need
new
traffic
infrastructure
to
manage
the
ingress
and
egress
from
from
the
new
development
site?
The
nuts
and
bolts
impacts
were
supposed
to
be
addressed
through
an
ia
G,
but
what
often
happens
is
it
becomes
a
conversation
about
so-called
community
benefits
which,
frankly,
you
know
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
with
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
the
Little
League.
While
we
may
all
appreciate
all
of
that
that
that's
the
traditional
community
benefit
the
nexus,
two
impacts
of
the
project
is
usually
negligible.
B
So
what
we
think
the
ia
G's
need
to
be
doing-
and
this
is
on
us-
is
the
the
education
effort-
is
making
sure
the
focus
is
on
what
are
the
physical
impacts
of
the
project.
And
what
can
you
do
to
lessen
them
as
opposed
to
here's?
A
big
project
developers
gonna
make
a
lot
of
money.
Let's
get
some
money
for
our
favorite
nonprofits,
even
though
I
get
that
I.
Don't
think.
That's
the
role
of
the
ia
G
and
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
trying
to
steer
that
conversation.
D
You
know
you
call
someone
up
and
yeah
they
say:
hey
you
know,
would
you
would
you
be
willing
to
serve
as
an
as
my
representative
on
the
I,
AG
and,
and
they
say
well
I
thought
we
were
friends.
You
know
like
a
like.
Why
would
you
do
that
to
me?
You
know
so
I
think
people
are
meeting
doubt
across
the
city
and
when
you
ask
someone
to
serve
as
your
represent
on
the
IAG
its
it
also,
you
have
to
be
truthful
with
and
say.
D
Oh
by
the
way,
it's
gonna
mean
X
amount
of
meetings,
X
amount
of
months,
and
you
know,
and
it's
it's
a
commitment
right
and
so
I
think
some
people
like
the
like
the
title
of
Ag
once
they
get
in
two
or
three
meetings
into
it.
They
call
you,
you
know
every
name
in
the
book
because
they
think
you
know
you
didn't
do
them
a
favor,
but
but
you
trust
their
judgment.
D
D
Just
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
lens
on
that
iug
and
make
sure
that
people
aren't
cutting
side
deals
there,
their
first
two
meetings
they're
against
the
project
and
then
after
they
have
the
private
meeting
if
their
house-
and
they
get
some
checks,
cut
there
all
of
a
sudden
cheerleading
for
the
project.
Guy,
that's
that's
over
the
top,
and
it
happens.
D
D
You
want
them
to
be
there
for
the
right
reasons,
hope
that
they're
there
for
the
right
reasons,
but
unless
there's
some
structure
and
order
in
Robert's,
Rules
or
Open
Meeting,
Law,
I
I,
don't
see
any
situation
where
an
I
AG
member
outside
of
the
scope
of
I
AG,
should
be
meeting
privately
with
the
developer.
That
was
presenting
in
front
of
them
the
night
before
or
is
presenting
in
front
of
them
two
nights
from
the
act.
You
know
I
think
they
should
be
held
to
the
same
standard.
The
where
hell
to
you.
B
Know
we
have
the
same
concern
as
you
may
know,
the
I
AG's
are
public
meeting.
So
even
though
the
I
AG
might
be
deliberating,
you
know
among
themselves.
The
public
can
go
and
watch
this,
but
yes,
the
whole
notion
of
what
happens
when
the
meetings
over
again.
This
is
one
of
these
classic
enforcement
things.
How
do
you
stop
the
individual
members
from
but.
D
B
D
O
A
F
B
B
Looking
at
the
development
program
and
how
the
impacts
are
managed,
everything
every
alteration
to
the
built
environment
has
impacts
and
we
seek
to
require
developers
to
address
the
impacts
through
mitigation
commitments
that
are
best
presented
to
us
are
harmonized
by
the
IAG.
A
community
benefit
conversation.
Do
they
occur
within
AI,
AG's,
I
that
they
do
with
some
regularity,
and
that
is
not
optimal.
B
These
these
should
be
fundamentally
the
ideal
way
to
handle.
It
is
that
these
conversations
occur
between
the
developer
and
a
variety
of
constituencies,
whether
they're,
individuals
or
organizational,
and
they
arrive
at
a
community
benefit
package
that
is
specked
out
between
developer
and
community.
B
We're
often
involved
in
that,
because
there's
a
question
about
how
do
you
memorialize
the
commitment?
How
do
you
enforce
the
commitment
and
in
the
community
that
seeks
these
things?
You
know
directs
the
requests
and
the
demands
to
us
understand
that,
because
again,
it's
easy
to
blur
the
line
between
mitigation
and
community
benefits.
We
are.
This
is
a
broader
political
conversation
and,
frankly,
we
need
help
in
this
regard.
What
is
it,
what
has
developed
over
20
years,
article
that
he's
been
around
since
1996,
so
over
22
years,
we've
created
different
practices.
B
That
might
not
be
you
know,
envisioned
in
article
80.
They
might
be
new
loosely
analogous
that
to
things
that
are
in
article
80,
but
they're
not
really
specked
out
as
responsibilities
of
ours
in
article
80,
but
we
end
up
sort
of
absorbing
this
function,
because
communities
expect
us
to
hey.
You
spell
out
the
mitigation,
and
you
spell
out
the
community
benefits
and
by
the
way
we
blur
them
all
together
anyway.
So,
let's
just
have
you
do
it
I'm
trying
to
move
the
BP
da
out
of
that
business?
B
It
doesn't
necessarily
address
the
concerns
that
might
still
exist.
Yours
counselor
as
well
that
that
there
will
still
be
demands
on
developers
from
community
organizations
or
individuals
in
the
community
as
a
means
of
developing
and
securing
support.
But
I
don't
think
community
benefits
is
really
the
role
we
should
be
in.
That
should
be
between
developer
and
neighbors
and
neighborhood
organizations.
B
B
F
B
That
that
may
be
the
case,
but
here's
here's,
the
big
differences,
we're
we're
the
South
Boston
betterment
trust
case.
The
problematic
behavior
that
yielded
the
South
Boston
benefit.
Trust
case
was
we
were
empowering
the
thing
we
are
empowering
the
thing
to
do
something
that
the
court
found
to
be
inappropriate,
illegitimate.
B
My
goal
is
to
make
sure
the
IAG
is
not
doing
anything
inappropriate
or
illegitimate.
The
IAG
is
focused
as
an
instrumentality,
the
organization,
the
AG's
part
of
what
we
do.
It
has
an
official
function.
What
happens
other
backroom
deals
problematic
in
exchange
for
support,
I
I
must
admit.
I
I,
don't
like
any
of
this.
The
whole
notion
that
you
cut
a
deal
with
the
developer,
to
get
something
for
yourself,
maybe
maybe
you're
in
a
butter
so
I
want
you
build
me.
A
fence.
I
want
you
to
build
me.
B
A
pool
and
I
won't
Jam
you
up.
When
you
go
to
the
CBA,
all
that
behavior
is
problematic,
but
it's
a
it's.
Not
us.
My
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
the
organization
that
the
government
agency
responsible
for
this
is
not
doing
that
if
this
is
going
on
with
neighbors
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day
we're
talking
about
free
citizens
in
a
free
land
and
if
they
want
to
go,
threaten
a
developer
with.
You
know,
support
or
withdrawal
of
support,
because
they're
not
getting
something
they
want.
B
That's
problematic,
behavior,
but
it's
not
problematic
behavior
that
the
BPD
a
is
engaged
in.
My
concern
is
if
the
I
AG
is
doing
that
the
BPD
a
is
involved.
The
I
AG's
are
creatures
of
us,
but
if
those
conversations
are
going
on
between
private
citizens,
private
organizations
in
a
developer
that
doesn't
involve
us,
it
might
be
unsavory,
it
might
be
unpleasant.
B
It
might
be
downright
morally
wrong,
but
it's
nothing
that
implicates
us
so
do
I,
think
that
should
be
occurring
no,
but
my
job
is
to
make
sure
the
agency
isn't
doing
anything,
that's
problematic
or
enabling
or
complicit
in
anything
that's
problematic,
so
I'm
trying
to
extricate
the
agency
from
this
community
benefit
conversation
and
focus
on
mitigation.
Now
there
might
be
good-faith
disagreements
about.
B
What's
a
community
benefit
and
what's
mitigation
is
the
park
across
the
street
mitigation
for
the
new
density
you
just
plopped
down
on
the
other
side
of
the
road,
or
is
it
a
community
benefit?
There
will
be
good-faith
disagreements
there,
but
I
bet
we
could
all
agree
on
what
I'm,
probably
with
80%
overlap
on?
What
is
a
community
benefit
that
really
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
mitigation?
F
B
F
We've
sent
confusing
mixed
messages
to
residents
and
IAG
members
because
they
may
be
represented
an
organization
as
opposed
to
actually
living
in
the
area.
They
come
to
the
table.
Thinking
that
they're
going
to
work
towards
making
this
the
best
project
it
can
be
for
that
neighborhood
and
finding
creative
ways
to
make
up
for
the
impact
that's
going
to
have
on
that
neighborhood,
but
then
I
think
it
also
is
important
for
us
as
electeds
to
also
be
on
the
same
page,
because
I
don't
think
that
we
are.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
follow-up
questions
and
make
a
suggestion.
So,
in
your
response
to
some
of
the
questions
that
councillor
Janie
had
about
the
Seaport
District,
you
noted
again
that
you
were
you're
tasked
with
being
the
economic
engine
for
the
city
of
Boston
and
in
that
task
again,
just
echo
on
some
of
the
wonderful
points
that
she
made.
I
It's
clear
that
that
that
economic
engine
are
there
aren't
are
engine
is
not
equitable
right
now
and
so
I
would
love
for
you
or
I'd
love
for
the
BPD
a
to
make
a
commitment
about
equity
in
its
analysis
and
as
it's
going
forward.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
commitment
to
racial
looking
at
projects
or
looking
at
your
future
or
the
city
of
Boston,
whether
racial
equity
lens
but
I'm
wondering
if
you'd
be
willing
to
adopt
one
I.
B
B
I
think
we
do
do
it
in
everything
that
comes
before
us,
but
has
it
been
adopted
as
a
policy?
Are
we
sensitive
in
cognizant
and
sort
of
focused
on
doing
the
best
we
can
to
remedy
inequities
with
every
planning
effort
that
comes
before
us
in
every
development
that
comes
before
us?
I'd
say
yes,
within
the
limited
range
of
tools
that
we
do,
but
to
adopt
a
policy
that
states
that
I
I
am
you
know
I'm.
I
I
Not
doing
anti
or
doing
anything
against
it,
but
I
think
it's
it's
really
taking
the
three-prong
approach.
I
would
look
at
other
cities
such
as
Seattle.
They
have
racial
equity
toolkits
that
they're
implemented
in
municipal
all
municipal
activities,
looking
at
their
budgeting,
looking
at
their
planning
looking
at
their
parks.
So
this
is
this
is
not
an
unheard-of
thing
in
terms
of
municipal
governments.
I
Also
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
IDP
I
thought
we
were
doing
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
haven't
heard
very
much
about
it.
It's
13
percent
as
I
understand
it
right
now.
Do
you
think
there's
any
movement
or
any
any
appetite
to
to
make
that
larger.
I
know
some
cities
have
adopted
IDPs
as
high
as
20%
sure.
B
So
in
2014
the
mayor
directed
the
agency,
but
really
city
government
generally,
the
DND
played
part
in
it.
Along
with
us,
we
contracted
with
external
consultants
that
looked
at
what
does
this
IDP
requirement
do
to
a
developer's
pro
forma,
because
the
goal
is
to
get
the
developer,
build
and
create
units
not
set
a
percentage
so
high
that
the
developer
won't
build.
B
So
we
commissioned
external
analysis
and
the
number
that
that
came
back
as
is
not
likely
to
choke
the
finances
of
a
project,
was
13
I
think
we'd
certainly
have
been
fine
going
higher
if
we
believed
that
that
would
not
choke
development,
but
a
for
a
developer
to
carry
13%
of
their
units
within
an
affordability
range
obviously
impacts
their
pro
forma
and
their
ability
to
finance
the
project.
So
we've
come
to
the
number
collectively
when
I
say
we
I
mean
the
administration,
it's
the
BP
da.
B
I
I
So
that
somehow
that
was
gonna
be
a
new
displacement
policy
that
you
had
and
you
considered
displacement
in
the
lottery
system.
So
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
that
and
see
how
that
was
going.
I'm
happy,
I'm,
I'm,
happy
that
you
are
doing
that,
and
so
it's
one
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight.
But
I
guess
you
don't
know
about
it.
No.
I
And
then,
finally,
well
will
the
East
Boston
master
plan?
We've
talked
at
length
and
I
appreciate
that
conversation
I
want
to
compliment
you
on
that
and
coming
and
talking
about
that
and
there'll
be
a
hearing
eventually
on
that.
So
I
won't
belabor
those
points,
but
when
we
did
we're
discussing
the
little
the
little
mystic
at
one
point,
we
discussed
how
that
was
your
land
and
how
you
know
I'd
hope
that
part
of
your
incentive
would
be
to
free
up
that
land
for
the
folks
in
Charlestown
to
enjoy.
I
B
And
what
I
said
in
that
conversation,
that
was,
that
the
better
deal
could
be
financial
and
it
could
be
other
things,
that's
what
I
said
it
could
be
other
things.
Maybe
it
is.
Maybe
it
is
exactly
what
you
suggest
I
don't
know,
because
we've
just
started
the
conversation
with
Massport.
What
I
did
make
clear
is
we
take
mass
portes
concerns
very
seriously.
We
own
a
couple
of
acres
near
a
very
significant
Austria
love.
There's
they
manufacture
automobiles.
They
assemble
automobiles
that
come
off
vessels
nearby.
There's
a
manual
is
essentially
an
assembly
facility.
B
They
use
our
parcel
to
stage
cars
that
are
going
into
the
facility
and
exiting
the
facility.
I.
Take
that
very
seriously
because
there's
five
hundred
families
that
benefit
from
that
there
are
five
hundred
jobs
there
and
before
I,
disrupt
five
hundred
livelihoods,
we're
gonna
think
long
and
hard
to
have
a
conversation
with
Massport
we're
happy
to
have
a
conversation
with
you,
but
the
way
I.
Viewed
that
conversation
just
beginning
to
think
about
it.
We
haven't
made
any
decisions
at.
B
That
so,
once
again,
that
is
not
you,
you
specifically
said:
will
the
public
be
part
of
your
negotiation
with
Massport?
Will
it
be
part
of
the
negotiation
and
and
I
think
we
followed
up
and
said,
like
literally
sitting
at
the
table
as
we
potentially
negotiate
a
business
deal
with
Massport?
No,
no,
we
can
have
a
public
conversation.
We
can
talk
about
what
the
community
would
like
to
see
there.
That's
what
we
do
for
a
living,
but
when
you
said
will
they
have
a
seat
at
the
table
negotiating
with
us
in
mass
part?
B
B
Not
a
negotiation,
but
community
input
had
you
said
with,
would
you
entertain
community
and
put
absolutely
that's
what
we
do
for
a
living,
we're
interested
in
what
people
think
and
in
to
the
extent
we
could
end
up
supporting
mass
ports
desire
to
retain
this
as
an
industrial
site?
Again,
once
again,
we
are
an
industrial
development
agency.
We
are
as
a
component
piece
of
us
statutorily
as
the
economic
development
industrial
corporation.
We
do
industrial
deals,
it's
part
of
our
statutory
mandate,
and
that
means
providing
jobs
for
the
people
of
Boston.
B
I
I
J
Chair
I
would
like
to
just
come
back
to
the
IDP
again
before
going
in
more
depth
around
following
up
some
questions.
I
had
around
playing
deadly,
so
you
just
mentioned
that
in
2014
is
the
last
time
that
it
was
looked
at
and
that
this
that
it's
an
agreement
between
the
mayor,
DNZ
and
your
agency
well.
B
J
B
B
So
at
that
time
the
administration
stated
that
it
would
relook
at
in
three
years,
so
we've
just
begun
that
process
we're
looking
at
no
commitments
right
now
as
far
as
what
those
numbers
might
turn
into
or
if
they
turn
into
anything
at
all,
but
we're
gonna
look
at
what
is
our
standard
what's
going
on
out
there
in
the
economy
and
can
and
this
economy
handle
more
of
a
demand
on
developers?
Yes,.
B
J
It's
it's
a
good
time
to
look
at
that
and
revise
that
I
think
we
also
have
other
models,
as
already
stated,
other
neighboring
towns
that
have
up
the
ante
there
and
I
would
like
Boston
to
also
do
that
wanted
to
come
back
to
our
conversation
around
plan.
Dudley
I
certainly
appreciate
your
your
earlier
comments
around.
Not
you
know
not
wanting
to
overreach
in
terms
of
dictating
what
businesses
can
come
into
our
community
I
do
think.
J
J
In
particular,
neighborhoods
to
the
earlier
point
around
tools
that
the
city
has
or
that
your
agency
has
you
know,
I
would
suggest
again
the
RFP
process
and
we
saw
a
process
with
Massport
with
an
RFP
that
seemed
to
yield
something
beneficial
in
terms
of
minority
ownership
and
I.
Think
we
have
opportunities
through
D&D
and
through
your
office
to
do
the
same
and
so
I'm
hoping
I
saw
again.
J
G
J
J
B
There's
a
variety
of
ways
of
looking
at
this,
and
you
know
what
an
entity
that
comes
in
with
with
a
strong
message
on
one
aspect.
It
might
might
be
far
more
appealing
than
strong
messages
on
another
piece
and
so
I
think
I.
Think
the
concern
is
allowing
determinations
the
maximum
flexibility.
I
think
we
want
to
get.
You
know
to
the
same
result:
inclusive
outcomes
that
that
that
allow
for
sharing
and
the
benefits
of
development
for
for
a
diverse
community
and
in
in
that
that
attaching
percentages
ultimately
reduces
the
flexibility.
B
It's
just
a
philosophic
concern
that
we
might
be
able
to
weight
things
differently
in
the
process
where,
if
we
articulate
it
we're
bound
because
we
don't
know
what's
coming
in
the
door,
we
don't
know
what
what
the
responses
are
going
to
look
like.
So
the
the
goal
was
to
allow
maximum
flexibility
to
achieve
the
the
most
desirable
outcome
and
to
try
and
quantify
that
a
front,
obviously
masked
part,
went
in
a
different
direction.
Right.
J
J
Appreciate
that
I
think
there
are
questions
around
impact
studies
on
transportation,
environment
and
displacement.
Is
your
office
looking
to
do
that
in
this
process
in
the
planned
deadly
process?
Overall,
what
different
projects
could
mean
in
terms
of
transportation?
I
mean
we
heard
that
repeatedly.
Just
in
this
hearing
alone,
I
know,
we've
got
a
hearing
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
so
I
am
wrapping
up
chair,
so
environment
displacement.
These
are
just
important
questions
and
then
finally
questions
around
transparency
in
the
process.
J
Yes,
how
we
make
our
process
much
more
transparent,
that
the
information
that
residents
need
to
make
informed
decisions
is
being
put
forth,
that
we
understand
what
the
impact
will
be
in
terms
of
transportation,
environment
and
anti
displacement.
We
don't
want
so
you
know
you
mentioned
earlier
that
Boston
is
booming,
that
many
folks
want
to
move
to.
J
That
is
more
inclusive
in
terms
of
diversity
and
equity
ownership
and
one
that
really
responds
to
the
concerns
that
are
being
put
forth
by
residents
and
so
I
guess.
I
will
end
here.
Mr.
chair
I
I
appreciate
that
and
welcome
the
opportunity
for
follow-up,
and,
since
one
of
my
other
colleagues
gave
some
praise
to
one
of
your
staff,
I
would
like
to
certainly
highlight
Stacy
in
your
office
one
of
the
compliance
officers
officers,
who
does
an
amazing
job.
J
B
B
Pretty
getting
to
a
conversation
about
all
the
things
you
just
raised,
I
look
forward
to
it.
I
think
we
have
a
very
positive
started.
I
just
do
want
to
say,
plan
Dudley,
we're
really
proud
of
it.
We
think
it
has
been
a
very
thorough
engagement
effort
and,
and
in
and
I
think,
most
of
the
issues
you
just
mentioned.
B
I'd
argue
that
the
interest
that
is
first
and
foremost
in
our
mind,
our
folks
who
live
in
the
neighborhoods
working-class
folks
and
low-income
folks,
who
would
otherwise
have
a
much
greater
risk
of
being
displacement,
don't
get
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
know
displacements
a
very
real
issue
and
it's
occurring
as
we
speak,
but
it
would
be
a
much
bigger
problem
if
we
were
not
building
new
product
for
a
new
Boston,
F
New
Boston
arrives
if
there's
not
new
product
for
them
to
go
to
the
full
weight
of
their
economic
power,
now
turns
into
the
neighborhood's.
B
You
know
the
two
and
three
Decker
the
lower
scale
developed
neighborhoods
and
and
that's
where
the
pressures
on
the
existing
housing
stock
in
existing
families,
working-class
and
low-income
families.
That's
what
you
see,
gentrification
and
displacement
if
there's
not
new
product
for
new
Bostonians
to
go
to
so,
if
we
don't
build
for
a
growing
Boston,
the
danger
of
displacement
to
people
in
existing
housing
is
far
greater.
B
It's
a
great
question:
it's
when
we
haven't
had
a
wrestle
with
in
a
long
time,
because
usually
what
we're
approving
is
getting
built,
I
mean
the
vast
majority
of
what
we
approve.
Seiza
sees
groundbreaking
fairly
fairly
soon
after
the
article
eighty
approval.
The
last
time,
I
think
there's
just
an
illustrative
example
of
when
we
employed
the
threat
to
terminate
article
80
approvals
was
around
2011
and
it
focused
on
what
is
now
millennium
tower
the
old
Filene
site,
big
hole
in
the
ground,
so
2008
comes
Great,
Recession
and.
B
K
B
To
five
years,
yeah
article
80
basically
states.
If
there's
not
progress
on
the
project
within
three
years,
the
BPD,
a
at
its
option,
can
terminate
so
in
in
just
to
show
the
the
the
effectiveness
of
that
tool
that
it's
already
an
article
eighty
may
or
mean
II,
know
at
the
time
is
very
frustrated
with
the
fact
the
holy
ground.