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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means FY21Budget - DND
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Dockets #0588 - 0596 - Fiscal Year 2021 Budget: Department of Neighborhood Development (DND)
B
B
Gaveling
this
meeting
of
the
Boston
City
Council's
Ways
and
Means
Committee.
To
order
for
the
record,
my
name
is
kensey
Bock
I'm,
the
district
8
city,
councilor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
committee.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
live
streamed
at
Boston,
gov,
slash
city,
Council
TV.
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
Comcast
channel,
8,
RCN,
channel
82
and
Verizon
Channel
1964.
The
council's
budget
review
process,
which
continues
despite
the
present
emergency
and
will
encompass
about
27
hearings
over
roughly
6
weeks,
and
we
strongly
encourage
the
public
to
join
us
in
that
process.
B
So
there's
a
few
different
ways
that
you
can
do
that
you
can
attend
a
virtual
hearing
such
as
this
one.
If
you
go
onto
the
website
to
the
hearing
notice,
you
can
find
the
Zoom
link,
communicate
with
our
staff
and
enjoin
and
then
testify
at
the
end
of
the
hearing
and
when
you're
called
we
ask
you
to
state
your
name
and
affiliation
or
residents
and
limit
your
promise
to
a
few
minutes,
so
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
You
can
all.
B
You
can
also
join
one
of
our
two
remaining
hearings
that
will
be
dedicated
to
public
testimony,
so
on
Tuesday
night
at
6
p.m.
on
may
26th
we'll
be
having
one
focused
on
bps
and
on
Thursday
night
the
28th
at
6
p.m.
we'll
be
focusing
on
the
rest
of
the
departments
and,
if
you're
not
able
to
join
us
in
person,
you're
welcome
to
email,
the
committee
at
CCC
WM
at
Boston
gov.
You
can
send
us
written
testimony.
B
You
can
also
send
a
video
clip
of
yourself
or
you
can
go
to
the
city
council's
budget
website
at
Boston
gov,
slash,
Council,
FY,
21
budget,
which
tells
you
about
our
process
and
how
to
test
it
and
submit
a
video
or
written
testimony
there.
We
as
the
council,
commit
to
getting
any
testimony
and
any
language
translated
for
the
benefit
of
the
whole
council,
and
you
can
also
informally
tweet
us
your
questions
using
the
hashtag
BOS
budget,
boss
budget,
so
yeah
we
hope
you'll
join
us
in
that.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
zero.
B
I
want
to
note
that
I've
been
joined
by
my
colleagues,
so
councilor
Andre
Campbell
from
district
4
councilor
mano
maladie
from
district
6
council
is
Breeden
district
9,
councillor,
lydia,
edwards
district
1,
councillor
Julia,
Mejia,
at-large
council,
our
sabe
George
at-large,
councillor
Ricardo,
Arroyo,
district
5,
councillor,
Michael,
Flaherty,
at-large
and
I.
Believe
that
I
is
everyone
thus
far?
B
It's
a
very
grateful
to
all
my
colleagues
for
joining
and
also
to
the
many
colleagues
who
joined
for
a
previous
working
session
and
where
the
council
generated
a
number
of
questions
for
the
department.
If
you
go
to
the
link
for
this
hearing,
you
can
also
see
the
link
to
that
working
session
and
a
list
of
questions
that
were
composed
by
the
councillors.
B
I
should
say
at
the
start
that
my
office
was
remiss
in
getting
those
over
to
DMV
somewhat
late,
so
they've
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
them
and
I
know
they're
prepared
to
speak
to
those
questions
in
today's
hearing.
But
we
don't
have
sort
of
written
responses
which
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
is
very
much
my
bad,
but
but
I'm
grateful
to
them
and
the
last
we're
looking
that
over
and
and
preparing
a
discussion
today
in
relation
to
councillors,
questions
and,
of
course
anything.
B
We
don't
get
answered
today
and
the
hearing
we'll
be
following
up
on
as
a
committee.
So
without
further
ado,
I
want
to
recognize
chief
of
housing,
Sheila,
Dillon
and
her
team.
So
we're
joined
today
by
Rick
Wilson,
the
deputy
director
of
administration
of
Finance.
For
DMD
Tim
Davis,
the
deputy
director
of
policy
taylor,
kane
of
the
housing
innovation,
lab
Donal,
right
of
real
estate
management
and
sales,
Lyla
Bernstein,
the
deputy
director
of
supportive
housing
and
then
I
think
not
presenting
but
available
as
necessary
is
Dominique
Williams.
The
deputy
director
of
housing
stability.
B
C
You
so
much
for
having
us
and
I.
It
is
good
to
be
here.
I
start
we
D
and
D
certainly
sees
our
relationship
and
our
partnership
as
as
a
productive
one.
We
want
to
talk
today
about
our
fiscal
year,
21
operating
budget,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
as
we
shape
the
budget
and
and
we
get
busy
on
the
work,
we
would
be
glad
to
provide
any
written
material
today
or
written
answers
of
question.
C
If
you
have
a
question
you
feel
like
we,
when
we
can't
answer
or
we
haven't
answered
your
satisfaction,
we
will
certainly
love
to
get
back
to
you
but
I
before
turning
over
and
starting
to
talk
about
our
fiscal
year.
21
budget
I
did
want
to
take
a
moment
and
just
update
you
and
update
the
people
that
are
watching
on
our
response
to
the
coab
in
19
and
emic.
C
As
you
know,
over
the
last
two
months
the
md
has
taken
undertaken
a
number
of
initiatives
to
support
Bostonians
to
this
difficult
time.
We
create
the
rental
ramune
funds
to
assist
renters
and
financially
supported
the
creation
of
the
Small
Business
Relief
Fund,
and
that
is
being
administered
by
the
Office
of
Economic
Development.
We
advocated
for
the
eviction
moratorium
at
the
state
hapis
and
we've
worked
with
lenders
provide
mortgage
relief
to
homeowners.
C
We
work
to
deed
n,
safai,
homeless,
shelters,
with
both
our
private
shelters,
no
city
run
shelters
and
helped
with
the
creation
of
the
medical
respite
at
the
Boston
Hope
hospital.
So,
as
you
know
also
know,
most
of
this
activity
is
being
supported
by
federal
funds
and
is
not
included
in
our
fiscal
year.
21
budget
I
do
want
to
thank
that.
C
Act
funding
so
with
that
I
would
love
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
bmd
and
what
we've
accomplished
last
year,
very
briefly
and
and
what
we
would
like
to
you
know
talk
about
some
of
the
new
investments
for
fiscal
year
21.
So,
as
many
of
you
know
before
the
Kovach
19
pandemic,
although
it's
kind
of
a
little
hard
to
to
recall
what
life
was
like,
D&D
was
working
hard
with
many
of
you
to
provide
housing
and
community
development
services
to
Boston's
residents,
especially
to
those
that
are
most
vulnerable.
C
Our
work
cuts
across
five
strategic
areas,
creating
low
moderate
middle
income,
housing,
endless
homeless,
ending
homelessness,
strengthening
homeownership,
supporting
renters
and
housing
crisis
and
working
with
neighborhoods
to
develop
surplus,
city-owned
property
to
meet
community
development
objectives
like
formal
housing
and
open
space,
community
gardens
urban
farms,
etc.
We've
had
a
very
productive
year.
As
you
know.
Last
year
we
updated
the
city's
housing
plan
goals
to
meet
the
demand
for
housing
across
all
income
levels
and
stabilize
rent
and
home
prices.
C
Based
on
new
population
growth
projections,
we
increased
our
housing
production
goal
to
69
thousand
units
of
new
housing
by
the
year.
2030
and
increased
all
of
our
affordable
housing
targets
commensurately
to
date,
the
city
of
Boston
is
permitted,
thirty,
three
thousand
five
hundred
and
seven
new
units
of
new
housing
and
since
the
start
of
the
housing
plan
over
six
thousand
units
of
deed,
restricted,
housing
to
low
and
middle-income
residents.
C
Earlier
this
year,
we
announced
the
largest,
affordable
housing
funding
round
the
city's
history,
awarding
61
million
dollars
to
create
1097
housing
units
and
19
developments
across
the
city,
as
it's
important
that
we
create
new,
affordable
housing.
It's
also
extremely
important
and
critical
that
we
preserve
the
housing
that
the
affordable
housing
that
we
have
Boston
has
over
55
thousand
units
of
affordable
housing,
and
through
this
plan
we
preserved
over
15
thousands
of
15,000
units.
C
It
was,
as
many
of
you
know,
it
was
a
state-funded
program
or
the
affordability
is
coming
to
an
end
and
the
tenants
do
not
have
the
federal
protections
that
many
of
that
much
of
our
formal
housing
has.
We've
preserved
just
about
half
460
up
a
thousand
13
a
expiring
use
units
and
they're
on
track
this
year
to
preserve
another
150
units,
but
there's
still
a
few
pesky
ones
remaining
and
we're
going
to
have
to
work
to
either.
C
You
know,
preserve
them
and
if
that's
not
possible
and
I,
think
there's
a
few
that
aren't
proving
to
be
very
difficult.
We're
gonna
have
to
work
with
the
tenants
on
on
solutions
to
make
sure
that
they're
safe
over
the
past
few
years,
dd
has
stepped
up
our
efforts
to
prevent
displacement
by
supporting
renters
to
obtain
affordable
housing
and
stabilize
tenancies.
C
This
fiscal
year
office
of
housing
stability
issued
an
action
plan
to
reduce
evictions
in
Boston
and
contracted
with
a
dozen
nonprofit
agencies
to
provide
housing
services
to
renters
housing,
search,
emergency
shelter,
eviction,
prevention,
rent
arrearage
court
advocacy
and
tenant
landlord
mediation.
With
our
partner
agencies,
we
provide
assistance
to
over
3,000
constituents
and
prevented
over
500
evictions.
We've
also
spent
our
efforts
to
help
residents
buy
a
home
by
fiscal
year
end.
C
We
will
have
provided
education
or
downpayment
assistance
to
over
1,300
households,
and
we
are
also
just
about
to
launch
the
one
Boston
Plus
Boston
mortgage
product
with
our
partner
MHP
fund,
which
will
provide
discounted
mortgages
and
enhanced
downpayment
assistance
to
income
qualified
buyers.
We
remain
fixed
on
getting
more
more
of
our
moderate
income
families
into
homeownership.
It's
also
critical
that
we
help
homeowners,
retain
and
maintain
their
homes
retain
and
maintain
their
homes
to
prevent
displacement.
C
So
so
far
this
year
we've
provided
171
homeowners
with
foreclosure
prevention
counseling
and
have
helped
700
homeowners
of
minor,
minor
and
moderate
home
repairs.
While
a
lot
of
that
work
has
been
suspended
through
the
pandemic,
we
have
performed
40
emergency
repairs
for
seniors
in
the
past
two
months
alone,
mostly
roof
repairs
given
to
the
given
the
amount
of
rain
d,
NZ
d
andes
homeless
in
supportive
housing
team
has
continued
to
work
very
hard
to
implement
Mayor
Walsh's
homeless
plan.
C
Since
the
launch
of
Boston's
way
home
initiative
in
2015,
D&D
and
its
partners
have
housed
almost
1300
homeless
veterans
and
over
1,000
chronically
homeless
individuals,
this
year
we
launched
rising
to
the
challenge.
Many
of
you
were
involved
in
that
the
city's
first
plan
to
end
youth
homelessness
and
used
just
shy
of
5
million
in
HUD
funding
to
create
new
permanent
housing
opportunities
for
homeless,
youth
and
young
adults
wrong.
C
We
are
also
wrapping
up
work
with
the
consulting
team
hired
to
examine
our
adult
homeless
system,
developing
a
strategy
to
reduce
the
inflow
into
our
adult
shelters
by
connecting
every
person
seeking
shelter
with
safe
alternatives
whenever
possible.
And
finally,
as
you
know,
in
January
of
2018,
the
mayor
announced
the
creation
of
Boston's
way
home
fund
with
the
goal
of
raising
10
million
dollars
to
create
200
units
of
permanent
supportive
housing.
C
I
cannot
be
more
pleased
with
how
hard
the
staff
and
DFD
staff
at
D
and
E
have
worked
this
year.
However,
we
wake
up
each
and
every
day,
knowing
there
is
much
more
to
do.
That's
why
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
fiscal
year
21
working
closely
with
you
to
improve
housing,
accessibility
to
all
of
our
residents,
so
I
just
want
to,
and
I
am
I
am
wrapping
up
in
fiscal
year.
21
our
budgets
mission,
D
and
D
is
outlined
our
goals
and
new
initiatives
for
the
new
fiscal
year.
C
Let
me
highlight
just
a
few
in
fiscal
year:
21
we'll
continue
to
build
housing
for
households
of
all
incomes,
but
D
and
E's
focus
will
remain
laser
focused
on
low
and
moderate
income
production.
We
have
a
healthy
pipeline
of
affordable
housing
developments
that
will
work
hard
to
advance,
even
under
the
current
circumstances
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
talking
more
about
that.
We
will
also
continue
to
work
with
our
development
partners
to
acquire
existing
market
rate
housing
that
will
that
we
will
help
convert
into
permanently
affordable
housing.
C
This
initiative,
our
acquisition,
Opportunity
Program
AOP,
has
pledged
to
take
a
thousand
units
out
of
the
speculative
market
too.
Deep
to
date,
AOP
has
created
258
units
towards
that
goal.
In
fiscal
year.
Twenty
one
will
assist
over
4,000
individuals
through
home,
buying
classes,
foreclosure
prevention,
downpayment
assistance
and
home
repair
programs,
and
will
also
place
220,
chronically
homeless,
individuals
and
200
homeless
veterans
into
permanent
housing
and
assist
200
young
adults
with
with
both
services
and
housing,
outlining
the
city's
youth
homeless
action
plan
and
as
displacement
continues
to
be
of
our
utmost
concern.
C
Now,
more
than
ever,
we
will
work
with
our
nonprofit
partners
to
provide
housing,
search,
legal
referrals
and
assistance
with
rent
arrears.
While
this
work
will
stop
many
addictions,
we
knowing
they
will
need
addiction
additional
tenant
protections.
That's
why
we'll
continue
once
again
this
year
to
push
state
legislation
that
will
provide
turns
with
legal
right
to
counsel
of
they're
facing
evictions,
provide
tenants
with
the
right
to
purchase
their
apartment
buildings
if
they're
put
up
for
sale
and
protect
our
elderly
by
requiring
owners
to
have
adjust,
cause
and
limit
the
rent
increases.
These
are
common.
C
This
is
common
safe,
common-sense
legislation
and
I
I
have
to
scratch
my
head
and
wondering
why
it's
not
sailing
through
the
Statehouse.
So
that's
what
we've
been
doing
in
20,
kiss,
clear
20
and
what
we
have
planned
for
21
now
to
wrap
up
our
fiscal
year.
21
operating
budget
requests,
including
the
housing
2030
special
appropriation,
totals
27
point
1
million
dollars,
which
represents
an
increase
of
six
point:
five
million
dollars
or
31
percent
over
our
fiscal
year.
20
budget.
C
This
increase
is
primarily
due
to
new
or
expanded
investments
in
housing,
including
2.5
million,
to
create
the
first
city
funded
rental,
voucher
program
that
will
be
administered
by
the
VHA
2.4
million
dollars
for
first-time
homebuyers
and
2.2
million
in
funding
to
combat
displacement
and
homelessness.
Through
programs
like
rapid
rehousing
housing,
court
navigators
and
enhanced
front
door,
triage
and
city
shelters
to
connect
homeless
individuals
with
housing
and
services,
we
will
also
be
receiving
five
million
in
capital
funding
to
pilot
a
program
that
will
help
pay
for
the
infrastructure
costs
associated
with
housing.
C
Developments
in
exchange
for
affordability,
as
well
as
five
million
spore
upgrades
at
the
BHA,
elderly
and
disabled
projects,
elderly
and
disabled
projects.
As
you
know,
most
of
Dandy's
funding
comes
from
external
sources.
We
work
extremely
hard
to
leverage
our
operating
funds
to
maximize
this
external
revenue.
The
proposed
budget
reflects
an
estimated
eighty,
seven
million
dollars
in
external
funds
for
fiscal
year
21
and
that
does
not
include
Care
Act
funding.
C
B
All
right,
thank
you,
so
much
chief
Dillon
and
I
note
that,
since
that
she
started
speaking,
we
were
also
joined
by
my
colleagues
at
Flint
and
Frank
Baker
and
I
counsel,
President,
Kim,
Janey,
I'm,
so
welcome
and
yeah
I
think
we'll
jump
straight
into
questions.
I'll
defer
mine,
so
I'll
start
with
councillor
Campbell,
who
is
the
first
person
here
and
I'll?
Just
I'll
put
the
order
in
the
chat
for
the
other
councillors
so
and
I'll
just
remind
everybody
again
and
maybe
for
the
DNG
folks.
B
You
haven't
watched
these
before
we'll
be
doing
5
minute
rounds.
So
after
people
5
minutes
are
up.
I'm
gonna
raise
my
gavel
visually
in
the,
in
my
view,
which
people
can
see
and
then
I
do
have
an
alarm.
It
sort
of
goes
off
two
minutes
after
that,
as
a
grace
period.
Sometimes
it
goes
off
when
a
councillor
speaking.
B
You
know
who's
on
this
to
get
in
there
questions
and
for
us
to
keep
things
moving
along
and
I
know
that
affordable
housing
is,
is
an
area
that
we
all
have
a
lot
of
interest
and
want
to
have
a
lot
of
conversation
about
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
equal
opportunity
on
the
timekeeping
front,
so
councillor
Campbell,
you're
up
first
and
then,
as
I
said,
I'll
put
the
order
in
the
chat
for
the
rest
of
my
colleagues
castle.
Campbell
Thank.
D
You
councillor
Bach
and
Thank
You
chief
Dylan,
for
the
presentation.
I
also,
of
course,
want
to
thank
your
many
other
team
members,
Donald
who
I
see
and
Shani
and
Julio
and
John
and
Taylor
and
Dominique
Tim
Cadia
I
can
go
on.
My
team
members
also
express
their
gratitude,
not
for
the
work
you're
doing
right
now,
but
also
for
the
work
we've
done
in
partnership
before
covert
19,
and
that
will
continue,
as
many
of
you
know,
I'm
very
passionate
about
activating
the
vacant.
D
Lots
in
the
city,
including
the
many
in
my
district
and
we've
done
some
incredible
work
there
with
our
civic
leaders,
also
it
Wentworth
Institute,
and
so
one
of
my
questions
has
to
do
with
what
type
of
investment
might
we
need
to
see
to
activate.
Some
of
these
locks
lots
a
little
quicker.
How
does
kovin
19
affect
that?
One
of
my
other
questions
has
to
do
with,
given
the
current
staffing
in
capacity.
How
many
Lots
are
you
able
to
manage
through
the
disposition
process?
D
Obviously,
we've
been
really
intentional
about
thinking
about,
as
we
activate
the
vacant
lots
how
we
can
pull
in
those
businesses
or
to
run
by
women
and
people
of
color
thinking
really
creative
there
and
then
my
last
is
questions
related
to
some
of
the
small
non
buildable
Lots.
As
we
sell
those
through
sort
of
a
butter
sales.
Is
there
a
profit,
we're
seeing
or
people
paying
a
market
price?
What
happens?
They
are
went
with
those
Lots.
Those
are
my
questions
for
now.
D
C
The
thing
thank
you
for
that
question,
and-
and
you
know
we
are
DND-
is
very
anxious.
I
mean
I.
Think
an
ideal
state
for
us
would
be
that
we
don't
have
any
problem.
We
don't
own
any
property
right,
it's
all
owned
and
developed
and
portable
housing
and
it's
owned
by
the
community
and
you've
been
at
your
office
has
been
a
fabulous
partner
and
thinking
about
how
to
activate
the
lots,
especially
around
up
and
down
Blue
Hill
Avenue
and
in
your
district.
So
we
remain
committed.
We
did
suspend
over
the
last
two
ish
months.
C
You
know-
and
so
you
know
would
if
we
did
have
a
disposition
meetings
virtually
would
people
feel
like
they
were
heard.
You
know
we
need
to
be
careful
because
we
wanna
make
sure
everyone
has
a
voice,
so
we'd
love
to
think
that,
through
with
you,
we've
been
giving
it
some
thought.
I,
don't
know
if
we've
land
on
anything
in
particular,
but
you
know
we
only
have
several
hundred
Lots
left
that
are
actively
in
program,
but
we
would
love
to
to
move
it
all
our
ideal
really.
Is
we
get
property
through
surpluses
or
tax
foreclosures?
C
And
then
you
know
moving
it
right
back
out,
so
I
feel
a
little
frustrated
that
a
lot
of
the
good
work
and
the
planning
that
we
were
doing
has
stopped,
but
we'd
love
to
resume
it,
but
we
will
get
over
to
you.
I
think
you
have
but
I
you
know
we'll
get
over
a
fresh
list
of
all
the
Lots
that
we
are
working
on.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Rick
or
Donald
about
how
who
we
are,
who
we
have
contracted
with
to
take
care
of
the
property.
E
E
The
vast
majority
are
for
nonprofits
that
provide
services
to
you
know
to
the
most
vulnerable
residents
of
Boston,
and
so,
if
you,
if
you
exclude
those
that
leaves
about
50
contract
for
for-profit,
with
for-profit
entities
and
up
so
it's
about
35%
of
our
total
contracts
and
all
those
what
I
think
you
saw
was
that
there
was
one
who
was
a
certified
MWBE
which
we
are.
You
know
that's,
certainly
not
not
good
enough,
but
we
know
that
there
were
about
19
of
those
vendors
that
are
mwbes
who
aren't
certified
with
the
city.
E
So
if
you
include
those,
you
know
that
gets
us
up
to
about
40%
of
our
contracts
with
for-profit
entities
that
are
MWBE,
so
I
think
we
feel
you
know
pretty
good
about
that.
Of
course,
we
always
want
it
to
be
higher,
but
we
do
want
to
encourage
those
vendors
to
to
get
certified
with
the
city,
and
you
know,
we've
talked
OH
Oh
EDD
about
the
process
to
make
the
certification
process
simpler
for
those
businesses,
because
we
have
heard
that
it
can
be
a
little
cumbersome.
But
again
it's
it's
definitely
a
priority
for
us.
E
F
You
Rick
and
council
Campbell
great
to
see
you
I
hope
you
and
your
family
are
doing
well.
I
do
want
to
talk
and
and
with
some
level
of
passion
as
well
with
regard
to
MBE
and
WBE
as
what
others
Boston
based
contracting.
This
is
something
that
we
really
take
it
enough
pretend
really
from
a
boots.
On
the
ground
perspective.
F
We
were
too
closely
with
OED
we're
partnering
with
a
number
of
the
workshops
that
we
do,
but
we
have
this
sort
of
approach
in
our
division,
where
we're
talking
to
contractors
as
they're
working,
and
so
you
might
see
guys
next
to
our
sites,
we're
bringing
them
in
as
they
meet
with
us.
We're
now
talking
about
getting
them
registered
as
a
vendor
with
the
city
first
and
foremost,
and
then
taking
them
through
a
process
where
they
can
assume
to
be
a
certified.
C
D
B
G
What
we're
up
against
and
really
set
the
right
tone,
so
you
and
I
have
worked
together
longer
than
the
most
people
in
the
building,
so
I
appreciate
you
more
and
more
everywhere
the
panel's.
Thank
you
for
that.
Briefly,
it's
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
some
line
items
then
I
had
a
couple
of
specific
questions
for
the
first
round.
There
were
really
only
three
increases.
If
you
sort
of
go
through
the
51,000
life
line,
items
permit,
employees
is
up
about
300,000.
G
I'm
not
interested
you
shouldn't
be
my
time
at
that
man.
Family
homelessness
is
something
we
obviously
all
celebrate
that
position
to
help
coordinate
services.
So
that's
great,
thank
you
and
fifty-two.
This
may
be,
for
you
to
Rick
line.
52
900
is
contracted.
Services
is
up
about
five
hundred
eighty
two
thousand
dollars.
What's
that.
E
So
yeah
that
a
good
chunk
of
that
is
actually
due
to
a
it's
a
shift.
This
is
gonna,
be
kind
of
technical,
but
from
our
environmental
abatement
program
out
of
CDBG
grant
funding
to
do
operating
funding,
which
will
then
free
up
the
CDBG
funding
to
be
reinvested
for
housing.
So
we
work
with
the
budget
offer
to
a
little
budget
shift
there,
which
effect
is
an
investment
in
housing
on
the
grant
side.
Okay,.
G
E
G
E
So
those
are
all
the
investments
that
we
got
in
our
in
our
housing.
2030
special
appropriation
and
I
can
I
can
kind
of
quickly
lift
them
I'm
sure
over
the
rest
of
the
hearing
going
to
some
of
them
in
detail,
but
that
was
investment
in
our
front
door
to
triage
at
the
homeless,
shelters,
I'm
street
outreach
a
homeless
lead
outreach
to
connect
people
on
the
street
to
housing
and
services,
I'm
graphic
rehousing,
a
million
dollars
for
rapid
rehousing
for
youth
and
young
adults
that
was
included
in
our
youth
homelessness
plan.
E
An
expansion
of
the
housing
Claud
navigator
program,
I'm
in
housing
court,
increased
financial
assistance
for
renters
and
I
mean
almost
this
advisor,
which
I,
which
I
mentioned
I'm
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Sheila
mentioned
the
city's
first
rental
fundamental
voucher
program.
So
that's
nearly.
H
E
Of
that
increases
for
Badger's
and
2.4
million
dollars
for
homebuyer
assistance
in
the
form
of
downpayment
assistance
and
the
1
plus
Boston
mortgage
program
and
then
a
the
last
one
would
be
a
pilot
for
a
MWe
developer
fund,
which
we
should
have
mentioned
in
the
last
segment.
I
think
Tesla
Campbell
would
be
interested
to
know
that
as
well.
It's
a
small
amount
of
money,
but
we're
trying
to
pilot
some
capacity
building
and
technical
assistance.
Pre
development
support
for
MWBE
developers,
box,
terrific.
E
The
REM
relief,
because
that's
where
you
know
what
kind
of
undertaking
that
in
a
current
year,
that's
not
included
in
the
FY
21
budget
and
I
think
going
forward
and
she'll
or
attempting
to
talk
about
this
as
well.
We're
really
looking
at
the
stimulus
funding,
so
that
would
be
covered
in
an
accepted
expense
vote
presentation
that
we
would
make
to
you
so
I,
don't
think
we
would
come
back
as
perform
every
submission
that
would
be
handled
through
the
accepted
expend
process
of
our
stimulus
funding.
Okay,.
G
Fair
enough,
just
maybe
something
to
be
mindful
going
forward.
I
know
we
don't
have
a
minute,
but
just
as
something,
obviously
as
it
looks
like
it,
didn't
need
for
mental
relief
will
clearly
extended
so
appreciate
that
overview.
Thank
you
Rick.
You
know
there
was
an
aggressive
projection
and
the
number
of
lower
milk
middle
income
units
permitted
both
date
restricted
an
IVP
from
2019
to
the
projected
2023.
G
Eighty
seven
units
projected
for
two
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
for
this
year,
and
then
the
target
for
next
year
is
actually
sort
of
in
between
about
three
thousand
three
hundred
four
total.
Is
that
reflective
of
the
fact
that
we've
seen
you
know
a
pause
in
the
in
Boston's
real
estate
market
right
now
and
concerned
them
going
to
enter
a
bear
market
during
the
recovery
yeah.
C
That
is
certainly
we.
We
do
anticipate
that
the
inclusionary
development
units
associated
with
market
rate
development
may
slow
down.
We
have
created
a
lot
of
middle-income
housing
through
the
through
the
IDP
program,
and
you
know
we're
also
building
some
middle-income
housing,
mostly
homeownership
units,
which
I
think
is
a
really
good
program.
I
mean
you're.
We
like
taking
a
lot
of
our
resources
and
funding
rental
properties
that
support
you
know
very
low-income
households,
but
we
do
want
to
spend
and
we
have
been
spending
more
of
our
money
and
land
on
creating
homeownership
opportunities,
so
you're.
C
E
G
Yeah
just
more
curious
than
anything
else,
and
then
second
I
guess
this
will
be
my
final
question
if
you
find
that
number
you
can
chime
in,
but
following
on
that,
as
it
relates
to
the
disposition
of
property
which
we
were
well
Sheila
and
it's
it's
we've
been
able
I
think
to
identify
some
great
public-private
partnership
as
it
relates
to
creating
real,
affordable
housing
from
this
position.
Yeah
I
wonder
while
as
I
have
when
we
enter
a
bear
real
estate
market.
Does
that
make
the
city
less
likely
to
dispose
a
property
because
the
value
isn't?
G
C
I'll
answer
very
quickly:
I,
you
know
we
don't
anticipate
that
the
affordable
housing
production
will
slow
down
and
most
of
what
we
do
with
our
surplus
properties,
create
affordable
housing.
We're
not
we
sell
very
few
pieces
for,
for
you
know
for
a
lot
of
reality,
so
we
think
that
activity
is
going
to
continue
great
I.
Don't
I,
don't
anticipate
a
slow
down
unless
public
funds
that
we
need
create
the
affordable
housing
know
are
greatly
reduced.
I
Good
morning
and
thank
you,
chairman,
bak
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
a
chief
Dylan
and
her
amazing
team.
I
know
you
guys
are
working
hard
under
these
crazy
corona
times
coronavirus
time.
So
we
really
do
appreciate
all
you
are
doing
and
continue
to
do
for
our
most
vulnerable
families,
and
so
Sheila
I
would
have
to
say
I'm
really
quick.
As
that
I
know.
I
Even
before
you
started
this
position,
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
housing
space
you
know
hold
you
in
high
regard,
folks,
like
Donna,
Hague,
Friedman,
Libby,
Hayes
folks,
who
I've
worked
with
in
different
capacities.
I
have
nothing
but
love
for
you,
so
I
just
want
to
just
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
for
our
families
and
your
team
as
well
so
I'm,
just
gonna
get
to
my
questions.
I
Here's
some
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
her
the
work
little
session
and
just
kind
of
want
to
just
to
uplift
these
again
and
because
my
eyes
are
a
little
straying
these
days,
and
we
just
put
this
is
the
biggest
font.
So,
where
were
the
OHS
performance
goals
for
averting
evictions
created
prior
to
covert
19,
and
how
will
or
should
these
measures
change
as
a
result
of
the
crisis?
Just
curious
as
and
one
of
the
goals
is
to
create
twice
as
many
homeownership
opportunities
in
FY
21?
How
would
that
happen?
I
How
would
this
pandemic
impact
those
goals?
What
kind
of
outreach
is
done
to
broaden
engagement
in
the
development
process?
You
know
I
always
believe
that
nothing
about
us
without
us
is
for
us,
so
really
do
appreciate
the
importance
of
community
engagement
and
figuring
out.
What
is
that
strategy
look
like
and
making
sure
that
it's
in
multiple
languages
and
that
were
targeting
communities
that
historically,
don't
show
up?
So
it's
not
always
the
usual
suspects
who
are
informing
the
thinking,
but
that
we're
really
making
a
concerted
effort
to
engage
folks
in
this
process.
I
Following
up
on
councillor
O'malley's
question,
can
you
talk
about
the
new
adviser
and
on
family
homelessness
position
and
expand
on
what
that
role
will
look
like,
and
the
DND
budget
narrative
states
that
languages
interpretation
services
are
used
heavily
by
the
office
of
housing
security
I'm
curious
to
know
how
many
calls
the
OHS
has
received,
which
required
interpretation
and
how
many
they're
expecting
this
upcoming
year?
What
role
do
nonprofit
community
activist
I
mean
others
have
in
shaping
the
DN
d's
agenda
and
being
a
community
organizer
myself
I'm
really
curious
about?
How
do
we
engage
city
life?
I
C
C
So
we
anticipate
that
the
the
goals
that
will
use
this
year
will
we
will
exceed,
or
we
can
even
change
them
to
reflect
the
rental,
Relief
Fund
and
how
many
people
will
be
helping
and
assisting
through
that.
So,
yes,
they
were
before
the
coab
in
nineteen.
So
on
homeownership
counselor,
we
are
moving
forward.
We're
going
to
announce
you
know
a
new.
You
know
a
home
buying
program
mortgage
program
in
june,
we're
going
to
double
down
on
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance.
C
I'm
hopeful!
If
there's,
if
there's
we're
starting
to
see,
we
were
starting
to
see
before
Kovach
nineteen,
the
sales
market
start
to
flatten
out
some.
So
we
started
to
prepare
to
help
people
acquire
homes
yeah.
We
have
to
be
careful
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
going
to
be
financially
stable.
We
don't
want
to
put
them
anyone
in
a
situation
where
they
won't
be
able
to
maintain
it,
but
we're
moving
forward
with
a
big
push
this
spring
and
summer
to
have
people
buy
homes.
It
will
be
challenging
to
view
homes
it
will.
C
C
If
I
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
community
engagement
and
I
saw
that
your
question
come
over
earlier
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
very
good
one
just
want
to
talk
a
bit
about
how
we
shape
policy
and
how
we
put
together
our
goals
and
plans
and
I
list
it
out
and
I
just
want
to
read
them.
We
have
a
housing
advisory
task
force.
We
have
an
eviction
prevention
task
force.
We
have
the
Boston
continuum
of
care,
leadership,
team
and
steering
committees.
We
have
the
Boston
Advisory
Council
on
ending
homelessness.
C
We
have
the
Boston
youth
action
board.
We
have
a
disability
task
force
that
we
that
we
run
and
manage
with
Commissioner
of
m'gosh
and
on
all
of
those
boards
and
Commission
commissions.
There's
a
lot
of
representations,
representation
from
communities
and
nonprofits
advocates
regular
folks
that
actually
have
have
to
situations.
We
have
a
homeless
advisory
board
for
those
that
who
are
homeless
or
have
been
homeless.
So
we
take
those
conversations
and
work
very
seriously.
C
We
never
develop
policies
or
programs
without
a
lot
of
input,
and
we
certainly
welcome
the
City
Council's
input
going
forward
and
your
input,
and
if
you
have
people
that
you
feel-
and
you
hear
they're
maybe
not
plugged
in,
we
would
be
glad
to
talk
to
you
and
see
how
we
can
plug
them
in
you
know
the
bigger
the
table
the
better
and
we
and
I
believe
that
you
know
we
really
through
rich
conversations.
We
improve
what
we're
doing
so.
Welcome
that
all
day
we
do.
You
have
some
language
capacity
on
the
OHS.
C
I
have
to
defer.
I
may
not
get
back
to
on
how
many
calls
come
in
actually
seeking
I.
Don't
have
that
exact
number,
but
I
can
get
that
for
you.
How
many
you
know
callers
come
in
looking
for
needing
a
certain
language
assistance,
so
I
will
need
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
It's
a
it's
data
that
we
keep
I.
Just
don't
have
it
with
me.
Okay,.
I
Thank
you
for
that
and
hey
I
do
have
one
quick
follow-up,
but
I
still
don't
see.
The
gavel
is
I'm
just
curious
about
you
know.
My
colleagues
have
already
raised
the
importance
of
making
sure
that
we're
being
intentional
about
hiring
minority
business
owners,
I
did
hear
Rick
say
that
we
have
a
lot
of
nonprofit
organizations,
but
what
I
know
haven't
been
a
lot:
a
non-profit
executive
director
in
the
past
that
oftentimes
these
nonprofits
are
not
led
by
people
of
color.
So
just
want
to
be
really
mindful
and
raised
that
up.
I
C
Yeah
I
mean
I,
agree
that
the
best
I
mean
I,
don't
say
the
best
nonprofits,
but
you
know
some
of
the
nonprofit's
we
work
with
are
led
by
people
of
color.
Some
are
not.
We
certainly
when
we're
evaluating
all
of
our
contracts,
we're
looking
for
represent
Taoiseach
from
the
community,
we're
looking
for
diverse
boards,
so
we'll
keep
that
top
of
mind.
It's
important
to
us
too.
Thank.
B
A
Chair
and
thank
you,
chief
Dylan
and
your
team
for
being
with
us
this
morning,
special
thank
you
for
Kathy
and
Katie
who
attend
regularly
my
family,
shelter,
roundtable
discussions
and
in
the
work
that
you're
committed
to
doing
in
that
space
and
really
appreciate
this
plan
a
little
bit
more
about
that
I
know,
councillor
Malley
brought
it
up
in
here,
brought
it
up,
should
love
to
hear
sort
of
about
that
and
how
they
will
facilitate
coordination
between
existing
programs
and
other
services
offered
by
the
city
and
the
state.
You
know
that's
a
real
disconnect.
A
We
talk
about
families
experiencing
homelessness.
The
workplace,
I'd
also
love
to
hear
about
around
tracking
families
experiencing
homelessness,
and
how
are
we
making
sure
that
we
know
who
they
are
where
they
are,
where
their
kids
go
to
school?
How
old
their
children
are?
That's
really
important
to
me
and
then
I'm
really
interested
in
getting
to
a
place
where
we're
writing
a
plan,
an
action
plan
to
end
family
homelessness.
A
We've
talked
about
this
now,
four
and
a
half
years
or
so,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
if
we
don't
set
goals
to
end
family
homelessness,
even
if
it's
going
to
take
a
longer
period
of
time,
then
we're
not
working
towards
it.
So
I'd
love
to
hear
a
response
to
that.
I
also
have
some
questions
around
youth
homelessness
and
then
really
interested
in
the
work
of
the
homeless
peer
navigators.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
chief
well.
C
Thank
you.
Those
are
great
questions.
I'm
gonna
hand
this
over
to
Lila
Bernstein,
who,
who
has
been
giving
this
up.
It's
been
lead
on
on
this
particular
position
and
how
it
will
fit
into
our
work
on
homelessness,
but
I
I
just
want
to
go
off
mute
and
thank
you
for
your
advocacy
for
this
position.
I
mean
you
raise
you've
been
raising
this
issue
for,
for,
for
quite
some
time,
you've
been
very
focused
on
individuals,
but
I
think
we
can
get
now
with
this
position,
get
much
more
intentional.
H
Morning,
good
morning,
counselor,
can
you
hear
me
yes
good
so,
first
to
talk
about
the
family,
advisor
and
I
want
to
echo
what
chief
Dillon
said.
We
are
really
appreciative
of
your
leadership
around
family
homelessness
and
we're
really
excited
about
adding
this
new
position
so
on.
As
you
know,
on
October
28th
in
2019,
you
filed
an
ordinance
to
create
the
special
Commission
on
ending
family
homelessness
and
so
that
that
kind
of
pushed
our
thinking
further
and
the
proposal
in
the
budget
today
is
to
create
an
advisor
on
family
homelessness
role
to
staff.
H
This
commission
to
staff
the
special
commission,
but
also
to
drive
the
documentation
and
implementation
of
Boston
strategies
to
prevent
and
end
family
homelessness,
to
drive
advocacy
with
state
systems
and
to
prove
outcomes
for
homeless
families,
as
well
as
convene
partners
to
improve
coordination.
So
there's
a
lot,
that's
that's
driven
by
the
state,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
resources
that
the
city
controls
that
goes
into
ending
family
homelessness,
and
we
really
do
need
a
point
person
to
improve
this
coordination
across
systems.
H
But
we
haven't
had
this
well
coordinated
system
and
we
to
ensure
that
the
resources
are
reaching
households
with
the
greatest
needs,
promoting
a
more
housing,
centered
family
homeless
system
and
strengthen
our
housing
pathways
and
eviction
prevention.
Partnerships
to
prevent
an
end
family
homelessness.
So
that's
the
concept
of
this
advisor.
H
It
really
is
based
on
some
of
the
learnings
we've
come
to
through
having
a
very
coordinated
effort
on
ending
chronic
homelessness,
ending
veteran
homelessness
now
ending
youth
homelessness,
so
I
think
we
can
take
a
lot
of
those
lessons
and
apply
to
the
work
of
ending
family
homelessness.
We
will
need
state
partnership
in
this,
as
you
know,
so
you
know
they
controlled
a
family
homeless
sheltering
system.
They
control
the
policies
around
that
they
control
a
lot
of
the
resources
around
families
exiting
homelessness
with
rapid
rehousing.
A
So
just
thank
you
for
your
work
and
thank
you
really
for
this
position,
because
it
elevates
us
to
that
next
level.
I
do
have
two
other
questions
that
I'll
say
for
the
next
round,
because
I
say
I
see
the
gavel,
but
perhaps
one
of
my
colleagues
will
get
to
some
of
the
work
around
youth
homelessness
and
then
also
there's
navigators
interested
in
that
work.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
J
You
and
thank
you
to
the
DND
for
being
so
responsive
there's
been
a
number
of
different
things
that
I've
had
to
call
on
that
appreciate
the
response.
So
some
of
my
questions
already
gonna
ask
this
may
be
particularly
short.
I'm
gonna
start
with
the
BPS
student
vouchers
program,
which
is
relatively
new
if
we
can
just
get
an
update
on
how
that's
going,
how
many
vouchers
have
actually
been
handed
out
and
our
and
as
well
as
how
many
vouchers
are
still
available
for
families
too.
At
this
moment,
oh.
C
Boy,
this
is
Sheila,
I,
don't
have
that
number,
but
I
can
get
it
to
you
with
it
soon.
You
know,
I
can
get
it
to
you
within
hours.
I
know
that
there
right
now
that
there
are
a
lot
of
families
have
been
given.
You
know,
authorization
they've
been
cleared
for
vouchers
and
I
know
that
there
is
a
big
push.
I
know:
Courtney
Trudel
and
my
staff
is
working
very
closely
with
David.
C
K
C
Were
really
trying
to
think
of
ways
that
we've
also
been
advertising?
It's
actually
has
been
a
it's
been
very
hard
for
homeless,
individuals
and
families
with
vouchers
to
to
find
units
and
we're
seeing
a
slight.
You
know,
shift
I.
You
know
this
is
I
hate
to
say
this
is
a
silver
lining
right
now,
but
there
is
more
interest
from
owners
of
units
for
people
with
vouchers.
Just
I
think
that
markets
gotten
soft
so
we're
hopeful
that
as
soon
as
they
get
a
voucher,
they'll
be
able
to
find
units
much
more
quickly
than
they
have
been.
J
Thank
you
so
much
I
know
it
councillor
Campbell
asked
about
the
contracting
on
the
affordable
housing
units.
In
my
district
specifically
I
know
we.
We
spoke
a
little
out
this
and
you
can
send
me
those
projects.
You
can
send
those
projects
offline,
but
in
terms
of
the
community
process.
What
are
some
ideas
that
you
internally
have
discussed
or
ways?
We
can
really
go
after
this,
because
I
I've
been
reached
out
to
buy
some
of
my.
As
you
know,
with
the
community
process.
J
They
have
to
go
to
the
neighborhood
meetings,
and
so
some
of
those
folks
have
approached
me
because
they've
been
approached
by
developers
looking
to
engage
in
kind
of
zoom
sessions.
My
concern
with
some
sessions
is
it's
it's
harder
to
market
that
it's
harder
to
get
certain
adults
or
older
folks
on
there
time.
There's
a
number
of
issues
with
that.
C
C
Well,
hopefully,
that
will
start
and
we're
working
with
the
developers
right
now
on
what
the
financial
implications
have
been
for
the
shutdown.
So
we
are
scratching
our
head
a
little
bit
and
any
of
my
team
who
wants
to
jump
in
on
how
do
we
continue
to
have
robust
community
conversations
about
development
in
with
this
new
reality
and
I?
Have
that
staff
to
look
at
what
is
the
existing
infrastructure?
So
if
a
you
know,
a
neighborhood
association
is
continuing
to
meet
virtually.
C
Can
we
have
a
piece
of
that
time
using
infrastructures
that
are
being
put
in
place?
I
guess
another
thing
we
could
do
and
we've
been
started
talking
about
this
is
you
know,
could
we
eventually
meet
on
site
if
the
weather
weather
permitting
and
keep
away
from
each
other
with
masks
and
have
conversations
it
all
feels
rather
imperfect,
though
so
I?
You
know
we
too
are
open.
You
know.
In
the
past
we
have
every
time
we
put
out
an
RFP
or
we
start
a
community
process.
C
We
usually
set
up
a
website,
so
people
can
comment
virtually
because
some
people
don't
like
going
to
meetings,
but
they
have
a
lot
to
say
and
they've
important
things
to
say.
But
that's
not
everybody
there
are.
There
are
people
that
really
like
to
go
to
meetings
and
be
heard
so
I
think
we
are
too
or
a
little
bit
in
the
dark,
but
we
are
starting
to
put
ideas
in
place,
so
any
ideas
you
may
have
we
would
welcome
them.
C
J
Let
me
just
she
really
quick
if
there's
anything
that
you
know
so
many
questions
have
already
been
asked,
or
oh
one,
last
one
I'll
leave
you
with
this
is
the
obviously
the
rental
relief
program
is
still
going
right.
There's
like
a
second
wave
of
that.
That's
gonna
happen
at
some
point.
Are
there
any
plans
to
bring
that
forward
into
the
next
year
beyond?
J
C
Question
you
know
we
have
we're
processing
the
first
round
and
tailors
here
and
should
give
you
an
update
and
we
had
a
great
working
session.
The
counselor
Edwards
hosted
the
other
day
and
we've
learned
a
lot
from
it
and
we're
going
to
as
we
work
on
a
second
round
using
some
of
the
Care
Act
funding.
You
know
we're
watching
very
closely
to
things
where
we
are
watching
what
resources
the
state
makes
available
through
their
raft
program.
C
We
are
hearing
rumblings
that
they're
going
to
increase
the
raft
program
substantially,
so
we're
very
interested
in
that,
and
that
is
just
rent
arrearage
and
that
is
administered
also
by
nonprofits
in
Boston,
and
we're
also
watching
very
closely
a
very
large
I.
Don't
know,
I
think
Aires
funding,
but
a
hundred
hundred
billion
piece
of
legislation
in
DC
that
would
be
targeted
to
people
that
are
in
rental
and
homeownership
distress.
C
So
I
think
it's
we're.
Gonna
watch
the
knee
very
closely,
but
I
think
we're
all
pretty
clear
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
need
to
help
people
get
back
on
their
feet
and
pay
and
pay
their
their
rent,
and
then
we're
also
watching
these.
You
know
external
resources
to
see
how
they
can
be
used
to
to
continue
to
the
program.
Oh
I'll,
throw
it
out
to
Tim
or
tailor
to
see.
If
you
have
anything,
you
want
to
add.
M
This
is
Tim
Davis
in
federal,
the
federal
land
sky
guess
we
are
certainly
looking
and
watching
to
see
what
those
numbers
are.
There
are
additional
CDBG
funds
yet
to
be
allocated
by
city
and
those
have
to
be
spent
until
the
later
years,
so
some
of
those
could
be
used
as
a
resource
or
further
down
the
road,
and,
as
that
Sheila
mentioned,
is
called
the.
M
We
see
the
emergency
rental
assistance
and
rental
market
stabilization
act.
It
has
been
filed
by
representatives
waters
and
heck
and
senator
sherrod
Brown,
and
we
are
working
with
our
partners
in
the
Washington
and
trying
to
support
that
which
could
be
a
free-standing
or
it
could
be
part
of
a
forth
kind
of
cares,
act
bill.
Thank
you.
J
B
N
You,
madam
chair
and
good
morning,
chiller
and
your
entire
team
I,
would
spend
a
pleasure
working
with
you
have
worked
with
you
just
a
little
longer
than
Matt
has
but
I
can
attest.
I've
talked
to
you
late,
Friday
nights,
early
Saturday
mornings,
even
on
Sunday,
Sunday,
midday
and
you've
been
in
the
office,
and
it's
all
about
trying
to
help
people
and
create
housing
opportunities
for
folks.
So
appreciate
your
dedication
and
your
work
ethic,
arguably
probably
one
of
the
hardest
working
in
city
government.
N
So
it's
a
pleasure
to
serve
alongside
as
a
member
of
the
council
and
to
to
work
with
you
in
the
administration
and
this
very
important
issue,
I
sure
to
look
at
housing
as
a
four
legged
stool
like
we
got
to
focus
on
our
homeless
and
our
most
vulnerable,
with
the
focus
on
our
low-income
and
fixed
income,
folks,
a
lot
of
them
in
our
public
housing
and
our
senior
housing.
We
have
really
had
the
high
end
which
which
we
need,
drives
the
tax
base
and
helps
pay
for
city
services
and
helps
pay
for
photo
housing
programs.
N
And
then
we
have
the
middle
income
folks
and
that's
where
I
want
to
address.
I
want
to
see
what
programs
DMD
has
are
moving
forward,
what
more
opportunities
I'm
hearing
all
too
often
here
in
the
city
across
the
city,
all
neighborhoods.
We
have
folks
here
that
are
just
making
just
a
little
too
much
to
qualify
for
any
type
of
assistance.
N
So
what
can
D
and
D
do
to
sort
of
focus
their
attention
on
middle
income
opportunities
moving
forward,
I
want
to
touch
base
on
the
MWBE
and
the
B
rjp
stuff.
For
my
colleagues
I
know,
we've
had
a
number
of
hearings
over
the
years
and
one
of
the
issues
that
we
hear
from
for
contractors
is
that
lots
of
strings
lots
of
bureaucracy,
lots
of
red
tape.
N
If
you
will
a
lot
of
back-of-the-house
paperwork
and
the
margins
just
aren't
there
to
justify
someone
sort
of
shifting
gears
and
unless
you're
doing
this
work
in
in
volume,
it's
a
disincentive
for
folks
to
get
in
so
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
engage
more
on
the
MWBE
in
the
bus
rhetoric,
job
which
our
policy
front,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
some
find
a
way
to
streamline
it
and
I
I.
Understand
that
there's
so
many
strings
attached
to
to
doing
these
types
of
projects.
N
But
that's
been
the
biggest
concern
from
folks,
is
that
they
just
don't
have
sort
of
the
back
of
the
house,
support
to
be
able
to
meet
a
lot
of
the
guidelines
and
regulations.
So
that's
just
a
food
for
thought.
I
wanted
to
ask
quickly
about
short-term
rental.
We've
been
at
this
now
for
a
little
over
a
year
about
a
year
and
a
half
and
want
to
get
your
perspective.
She
or
esta
has
it
been
helpful
to
our
housing
stock
and
what
changes,
if
any,
have
you
seen
and
then
just?
N
Lastly,
with
respect
to
our
veterans
and
our
homeless
veterans,
I
know
we
get
sort
of
three
points
of
entry.
We
have
the
New
England
Center
for
homeless
vets,
we
got
Patriot
homes
and
we
have
the
bright
Marine.
What
a
dee
dee's
plans
moving
forward
to
create
more
housing
for
our
veterans,
obviously
most
deserving
they've
given
selflessly
of
themselves
their
time
and
effort
to
serve
our
country.
We
owe
it
to
them
to
make
sure
that
when
they
come
back,
they're
respected
they're
appreciated
in
that,
obviously
they
have
a
roof
over
their
head.
N
So,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
could
increase
our
capacity
beyond
New
England
Center
for
the
homeless,
beyond
Patriot,
home
and
beyond,
bright
marine
I
would
be
in
full
support
of
that
and
I'm
sure
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
colleague,
Ed
Flynn,
as
well
as
all
of
my
colleagues
in
the
council.
We
love
our
veterans.
We
respected
in
want
to
care
for
our
veterans,
but
I
think
we
need
to
put
a
little
shoulder
into
creating
some
more
opportunities
for
our
homeless
veterans,
Thank,
You
Feiler
and
thanks
to
the
team,
obviously
Tim
and
everybody.
N
You
guys
have
been
great
to
work
with
my
staff,
but
particular
always
talks
about
how
helpful
you
guys
are,
and
you
take
calls
any
hours
of
the
day
and
it's
all
about
helping
people.
We
all
work
for
the
residents
and
citizens
of
Boston
and
DeeDee
is
a
big
part
of
that.
You
know
you're
the
unsung
heroes
of
city
government.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I'll
sit
and
listen
for
al
Sheila's
responses.
N
C
So
a
lot
there,
let
me
let
me
see
what
I
can
get
done
and
then
ask
my
colleagues
to
add
so
I
I
think
we
all
agree
that
we
don't
want.
You
know
we
want
everyone
to
be
able
to
stay
in
the
city,
regardless
of
your,
regardless
of
your
income.
So
we
haven't.
We
do
focus
a
lot
of
our
resources
on
our
lower
income
populations,
because
they're
they're
the
most
vulnerable,
but
recognize
that
we
want
middle
income
there.
C
And
you
know:
we've
created
about
6,000
units
that
are
I
say
you
know
affordable
to
the
middle,
but
are
not
being
restricted,
but
I
think
we
would
all
argue
that
that
is
not
enough
and
I
think
the
market
has
been
slow
to
respond
to
this
very
big
meet
and
we
are
always
talking
to
the
market.
How
can
you
create
something
that
is
more
moderately
priced?
It
would
be
good
for
them
good
for
the
city
good
for
all
of
us,
so
we'll
continue
to
push
I
mean
we
do.
They
know
that
we
count.
C
We
know
that
we're
looking
at
this.
We
don't
have
any
legislative
sort
of
requirements
except
beyond
the
IDP
program,
but
I
we,
you
know
it
is
the
top
of
mind
all
the
time.
How
do
we
get
products
both
for
home
ownership
and
rental
that
are
just
more
moderately
priced?
So
I
appreciate
that
you
continuing
to
raise
that,
because,
if
the,
if
the
market
would
take
care
of,
you
know
housing
our
middle
class,
then
we
could
do
even
more
with
our
resources
to
help
the
most
vulnerable,
short-term
rentals
we
are.
We
did
start
to
see.
C
You
know
rents
stabilized,
and
you
know
if
there
was
a
lot
of
factors
in
plane
and
year-over-year
the
last
quarter
or
two
quarters
actually
we're
starting
to
see
increased.
Pretty
you
know
increased
units
in
the
city,
so
supply
will
help
moderate
crisis,
but
a
lot
of
units
came
back
online,
December
1st,
and
so
we
are
starting
to
see
rental
prices.
C
Moderate
I
think
we'll
continue
to
track
that
we
do
owe
a
report
on
marked
conditions,
as
you
know,
as
this
as
the
requirement
that
short-term
rentals,
except
under
certain
circumstances,
stuff
so
I
think
it's
having
a
positive
effect
and
certainly
we're
hearing
from
neighborhoods
that
it's
just
in
their
their
neighborhoods
are
nicer
places
to
live.
They
have
you
know
residents
now
staying
for
a
year
or
more
and
they're
not
seeing
the
shuffle
of
people
coming
and
going
every
night.
C
So
it's
been
a
real
success
and
I
think
that
the
City
Council
for
your
support
on
that,
what
veterans
we
have
to
date,
house,
1200,
homeless,
veterans
through
the
homeless
plan
and
you're
right
we
have
built
you
know:
Patriot
homes
in
bright
Green
is
under
construction.
The
main
power
we're
also
working
with
Brighton
marine
and
we're
also
working
with
Brighton
marine
to
do
a
I
think
it's
30
35
units
of
supportive
housing
on
that
same
campus,
but
welcome
welcome
additional
projects
just
for
veterans,
I'll,
stop.
O
L
B
B
O
Think
in
your
team
for
your
hard
work
and
professionalism
Sheila,
my
main
thing
is
the
economic
development
was
saying
at
the
South
boss
front
and
we
make
sure
that
the
answer
bringing
community
set
South
Boston
Chinatown
or
the
south
and
our
Bennett
listening
built
from
that
South
Boston
waterfront.
Are
we
building
sing
in
the
neighbourhoods
in
connecting
the
South
Boston
waterfront
with
the
haunting
neighborhoods
in
making
sure
that
that
money
developments
benefit
in
pacted
communities,
I.
C
Didn't
catch
is
I,
didn't
catch
every
word,
but
but
I
think
I
think
the
the
request.
The
desire
is
that
that
there's,
when,
when
new
development
is,
is
undertaken
that
the
housing
resources,
both
linkage
or
inclusionary
development,
if
they're
off-site
opportunities
stay
within
the
impacted
neighborhoods.
Yes,.
O
B
And
I'll
just
say:
cuz
I've
heard
him
ask
it
previously,
just
that
I
think
council
earth
one
is
particularly
interested
in
the
question
of
in
the
South
Boston
waterfront,
which
has
obviously
been
well
covered
for
being
a
dramatically
dominantly
white
neighborhood,
you
know.
Is
there?
Are
there
opportunities
to
get
more
low-income
housing
there,
specifically
to
better
reflect
the
full
diversity
of
folks
who
live
in
South
Boston.
C
So
I
can
try
to
answer
it,
but
I
I,
well,
I'm,
looking
at
my
colleague,
Tim
Davis
as
well,
who
was
at
the
BPD
a
so
a
lot
of
affordable,
some
of
the
affordability
requirements
at
the
Seaport
where
were
met
by
developing,
affordable
housing
in
South,
Boston
I
want
to
say
proper,
not
the
Seaport
right,
South
Boston,
not
the
Seaport,
so
we
supported,
certainly
those
an
elderly
development
going
at
Preble
Rogers
we
developed
property
on
West
Broadway.
So
we
did
try
to
keep
the
resources
in
in
the
neighborhood.
C
I
do
believe
oftentimes
when
developers
come
in
and
say
we'd
like
to
do
our
affordable
housing
obligation
off-site.
Sometimes
it's
really
worth
it
because
it
it's
going
to
be
close
by
even
if
it's
downtown
and
nobody
can
support
Chinatown.
Sometimes
we
say
that's
a
great
idea,
but
oftentimes
we're,
especially
lately
Rosi
port
we're
taking
a
pause
knowing
that
having
all
the
affordability
requirements
leave
an
area,
especially
where
there's
a
lot
of
concentration
of
high
end
housing
isn't
isn't
a
good
thing.
We
you
know
it's.
C
It's
certainly
I
think
lesson
learned
that
every
neighborhood,
every
new
development,
every
new
area
of
development
have
a
diversity
of
incomes
and
race
and
age
and
family
status,
etc.
So
I
think
it's
there's
always
a
trade-off.
Do
you
allow
a
developer
to
go
off
site
and
create
more
units,
or
do
you
say
no?
We
need
to
create
a
neighborhood
that
that
is
more
representative
of
Boston,
so
we
usually
have
these
conversations.
M
C
M
M
O
Thank
you
thank
you.
Tim
Thank,
You
Sheila
and
thank
you
see
a
team
also
for
the
work
you're
doing
in
helping
house
our
homeless
veterans
as
well.
It's
greatly
appreciated
and
if
we
can
continue
to
work
on
that,
I'd
love
to
see
some
more
housing
for
homeless
veterans,
especially
in
in
the
downtown
area
or
in
South
Boston
on
the
south
end
or
Chinatown.
C
C
B
K
You,
madam,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
a
lot
to
talk
about
Sheila,
I,
guess
when
we
were
talking
about
the
monies
from
the
seed
port
going
into
the
neighborhood
to
build
with
the
problem
that
happened,
there
was
the
people
that
lived
in
South
Boston
were
unable
to
get
into
those
into
those
units
that
were
built
there
because
of
fair
housing.
Because
of
so
for
making.
My
question
is:
Tim
I
wasn't
going
to
talk
about
this
just
yet,
but
Tim.
K
Maybe
you
could
talk
about
the
the
neighborhood
preference
and
is
there
any
opportunities
to
build
on
those
well,
where
buildings
are
being
being
put
up,
the
people
that
watch
them
get
put
up?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
get
more
of
those
people's
in
the
neighborhoods,
because
South
Boston
has
been
decimated?
My
neighborhood
is
on
the
way
to
be
decimated
tons
of
people
that
would
would
love
to
stay,
but
but
can't
so.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
increase
that
neighborhood
preference.
M
So
Thank
You
councillor
Baker
for
that
question,
you're
referring
for
those
on
the
call.
This
is
referring
to
the
neighborhood
diversity
preservation,
preference.
This
is
a
pilot
preference
that
was
established
between
both
this
department
and
BPD
a
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
has
been
used
on
several
projects.
It
allows
for
projects
that
are
in
neighborhoods
that
are
already
diverse
to
allow
for
a
preference
for
certain
eligible
residents
who
live
within
a
certain
radius
of
the
project.
It
is.
M
So
it
is
usable
in
neighborhoods
that
are
already
diverse
and
where
neighborhoods
are
at
risk
of
people
risk
of
a
displacement
we
are
using
this
in
in
a
couple
of
projects
in
councillor,
baker's
district
and
much
of
his
district
would
be
eligible
for
these
kinds
of
preferences.
However,
South
Boston
is
not
necessarily,
but
we've
also
found
projects
in
Mattapan
that
also
are
not
eligible
because
of
the
high
concentration
of
the
one
race
or
ethnicity.
M
K
C
We
love,
we
love,
neighborhood
homes
haven't
been
a
lot
of
project.
We
had
several
projects
that
were
suspended,
but
we
are
waiting
for
the
moratorium
to
lift
and
then
the
they
will
get
back
then
we'll
get
back.
We
also
have
some
RFPs
that
are
I.
Think
we've
got
one
RFP
that
was
on
the
street,
that
we
extended
the
response,
and
then
we
have
a
pipeline
of
additional
lots
that
we
would
like
to
put
out
so
we're
we
we're
going
to
continue
to
put
out
our
small
property
through
nhi.
It's
a
great
program.
C
K
To
you,
and
maybe
the
number,
how
many
of
those
would
be
homeowners,
also
because
because
I
shield
I
believe
this
there's
opportunities
there
to
take
that
nhi
model,
larger
Lots,
more
densely,
packed
and
and
maybe
if
we
could
start
looking
at
because
I'm
looking
at
large
development
in
in
building
housing
offset
so
with
UMass.
If
they
have
a
couple
hundred
units
say
they
have
four
or
five
hundred
units
that
they're
going
to
be
on
the
hook
to
build
someplace.
Why
wouldn't
we
look
at
doing?
K
Is
there
a
an
opportunity
to
look
at
say
that
developer
building
a
housing
co-op
so
now
it
could
be
for
sale
on
an
NH
on
a
city
lot
that
could
follow
the
nhi
model
and
that's
something
and
that's
something
you
and
I
or
you.
When
we
get
back
up
and
running,
we
can
start
talking,
I,
think
about
it.
A
lot
I
think
the
nhi
models
good
model,
but
we
need
to
scale
it
up,
meaning
apartment
buildings,
5060
units,
all
of
it
is
home
ownership,
and
maybe
the
model
is
a
co-op
owner.
K
Maybe
the
model
is
a
co-op.
So
something
like
that.
We
can
look
into
yard
sale
Lots.
Do
we
have
direction
on
because
there
there's
some
that
have
come
up?
People
have
bought
them.
However,
many
years
ago,
when
we
we've
been
down
this
road,
is
there
a
are
we
looking
for
something
in
in
particular
for
those
people
that
that
may
have
a
lot
that
they
could
build
on?
But
it
was,
but
it
was
a
restricted
lot
to
be,
not
buildable,
because
it
was
a
yard
sale.
If
so,
what
are
we
thinking?
C
This
these
are
it's
a
tricky
one,
so
we
have,
we
did
sit
down
with
our
legal
department
because
a
lot
some
folks
are
coming
forward
saying
we
really
want
to
build
on
this
lot
and
a
lot
of
the
early
yard
sales.
I
would
say
some
of
them
should
be
built
on
they're,
just
too
big
they're
flat
they're,
they
collect
trash,
etc.
So
we've
said
to
anyone
to
any
owner.
You
have
to
a
couple
of
things.
C
You
have
to
just
show
us
that
the
neighborhood
agrees
with
you
right
so
is
your:
are
the
abutters
in
the
name
Association?
Are
they
happy
with
the
idea
of
you
building?
If
so,
we
want
to
see
it
in
writing
right.
You
want
to
see,
and
then
too,
because
these
were
sold
for
such
small
amounts
of
money
and
have
some
of
them
have
a
lot
of
value
right
now.
C
We
do
want
to
see
increased
affordability,
so,
instead
of
just
a
13%
on
site
yeah
but
you're
gonna
have
to
give
us
more
and
we
can
amend
the
deed
restriction
to
reflect
more
affordable
housing
versus
open
space.
So
we
haven't
once
we
give
those
that
criteria.
You
know
we
haven't,
you
know
some
folks
go
away,
but
I
think
we
got
to
stick
to
that
because
it.
K
K
And
just
a
couple,
quick
questions
that
you
can
get
back
to
me:
the
percentage
of
affordability
in
Boston's
housing,
stock,
external
funds,
I
know
when,
when
times
get
tough,
it
tends
to
be
those
those
positions
that
are
funded
with
external
funds.
It
is
your
Japan
I
know
you
guys
are
heavy
on
that.
Are
we
in
jeopardy
of
losing
those
funds
and
losing
and
losing
people?
And
my
last
point
is
to
talk
about
outreach
to
different
people
to
come
and
make
sure
that
their
opinions
are
heard.
K
I,
don't
see
any
outreach
reach
to
the
business
community
and
how
we
build
efficiently
city
assets
attached
on
to
builders,
business
people,
there's,
there's
a
model
there
to
get
business
here,
people
that
actually
build
these
buildings
and
not
saying
get
away
from
the
the
CDC's
are
all
together.
But
how
do
we?
How
do
we
mix
it
in
there?
Because
builders
build
CDC's,
don't
necessarily
build?
Thank
you
when
you
can-
and
you
can
answer
some
of
those
on
on
email-
well,
ask
question:
what
does
D&D
do
for
printing?
K
B
B
Q
Hear
you
great
connections?
Okay,
okay,
good!
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
chief
Dillon.
Many
thanks
to
folks
on
your
team
good
to
see
folks
I,
don't
see
a
wreath
of
Franklin,
Aretha
and
Franklin
or
Franklin,
but
good
to
see
everyone
else
on
the
team.
I'm
really
excited
about
the
increased
investments
in
affordable
homeownership
opportunities
through
the
1
plus
blossom
mortgage
program,
as
well
as
through
CPA
and
the
resources
there.
There's
a
lot
of
resources
coming
to
my
district
through
CPA.
So
that's
exciting.
Q
I
do
worry,
though,
because
of
the
economic
downturn
and
everything
that
is
happening
and
the
large
number
of
residents
in
my
district
that
are
renters.
So
my
district
is
81
percent,
renters
and
so
they're
very
vulnerable
to
displacement
and
eviction
want
to
continue
to
do
everything
we
can
to
support
them
as
well
as
advocating
for
mixed
income.
Housing
I
have
questions
as
I
always
will
on
one
the
secure
meant
and
I
know
it
was
discussed.
Q
I
think
a
little
bit
in
this
hearing,
but
I
didn't
hear
any
clear
numbers
about
the
spend
same
thing
with
Boston
residency,
jobs
fought
and
I
know
that
one
was
discussed
in
the
hearing,
but
I
would
like
some
clear
data
on
just
where
we
are
in
the
numbers
and
where
we
hope
to
go
I'm
there
I'm
also
interested
in
so
if
you
have
those
numbers
now
that
would
be
great.
If
not
I
would
just
like
clarity
about
how
much
we're
spending
where
for
people
of
color.
So.
Q
Actually,
yeah
and
I
don't
have
to
go
through
those.
We
talked
about
those
in
the
earlier
hearing
and
I
do
want
to
just
give
you
a
shout
out
or
whomever
is
responsible,
a
shout
out
to
see
the
numbers
for
people
of
color
increase,
but
I
will
obviously
point
out
that
for
residents
we've
got
work
to
do
on
that,
so
kudos
on
that,
but
on
the
on
the
other,
spend
I
would
be
interested
in
that
in
terms
of
procurement
and
contracts.
Q
E
Q
Fine,
you
can
get
that
later.
That's
fine,
I
would
certainly
appreciate
it.
I
think
there's
of
my
colleagues
would
also
appreciated.
I
would
be
interested
also
in
understanding
about
the
city
funded
rental
program
and
where
we
are
with
that,
how
much
is
going
into
it?
How
many
residents
are
gonna
benefit
with
the
process?
Any
limp
sons
that
we're
applying
from
the
emergency
rental
relief
program
that
will
be
applied.
Q
I
know
in
FY,
2030
3275
new
units
of
housing
I
would
be
in
it
was
the
goal
I'd
be
interested
if
we
reached
that
and
then
where
we
are
for
FY
21
in
terms
of
a
goal
of
number
of
units,
as
well
as
the
amount
of
money
and
the
number
of
people
that
we
hope
to
house
with
that,
and
whether
or
not
Kovac
has
impacted
that
those
goals
for
FY
21
I
will
pause
there.
If
we
have
time
for
more
I'll
go
through
some
more
thank
you.
C
So
I,
you
know
it's
funny.
I
I
know
where
we
are
with
the
overall
housing
goals.
I,
don't
got
a
morass
of
paper,
see
I'm.
Usually
you
have
a
binder
I'm.
This
is
a
little
hard
to
do,
but
so
we
are,
we
are
with
the
overall
production
goal
we
are.
We
are
we
are
we've
exceeded.
You
know,
year-over-year
we've
exceeded
the
just.
The
sheer
number
of
housing
units
are
bringing
online
we
with
the
middle-income,
restricted
units,
because
a
lot
of
that
is
tied
to
IDP
and
market
rate
development.
You
know
developer
set-aside.
C
We
are
we're
a
little
we're
a
little
behind
or
about
seventy
five
percent,
where
we
need
to
be
at
this
point
in
time,
but
we're
expecting
because
we
made
a
very,
very
some
very
large
infusion
of
resources.
Sixty
million
dollars
over
for
over
a
thousand
units
that,
once
those
projects
start
we'll
see
that
percentage
go,
go
up.
We're
also
waiting
at
the
for
the
state
to
fund
a
very
large
pipeline
of
affordable
housing
projects.
So
I
can
get
you
the
year.
C
Q
You
know
that's
not
necessary
achieve
Dylan.
I
just
would
be
interested
to
make
sure
that
we're
staying
on
track.
I
am
also
very
interested
as
we
look
at
new
units.
What
percentage
of
the
pie
is
going
to
affordable
housing?
What
percentage
of
the
pie
is
going
to
like,
affordable
home
ownership,
etc?
Q
As
you
know,
my
district
has
a
lot
of
deeply
deeply
deeply
and
affordable
housing
and
it's
very
concentrated
in
one
area,
and
so
it's
important
as
we
look
at
development
moving
forward
that
we
create
a
variety
of
opportunities
for
residents
to
stay
in
there
I
see
the
gavel
is
up.
I
would
love
to
give
you
the
opportunity
if
you
wanted
to
add
anything
for
other
questions.
The
other
questions
that
I
have
my
chair.
I
can
wait
for
the
next
round.
Thank
You
chief
did
you
want
to
add
anything
or
should
I
ask
another
question.
Q
B
Confident
that
I
know
between
between
an
addition
to
council
presence
of
Jeanne
I,
think
councillor
Edwards,
he's
coming
up
and
also
myself
we'll
have
questions
about
the
city
funded
rental,
voucher
program
that
she
asked
about.
So
certainly
I
think
if,
in
the
next
few
next
few
people
you
could
get
to
that
that'd
be
great,
but
well
we'll
go
next
to
a
counselor,
Breeden
and
then
councillor
Edwards
councillor
Breeden.
Thank.
L
L
L
L
13%
is
not
enough,
but
also
where
the
where
the
price
point
is
pegged
at
70,
70
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income
does
not
reflect
the
earning
capacity
of
so
many
folks
who
live
in
our
neighborhood
and
I
just
may
be,
and
would
be
the
best
quote.
I
know
he's
been
working
on
this
just
to
see
where
we're
at
with
with
with
modifying
or
revising
the
inclusionary
development
policy,
then
the
other
question
I'd
was
with
regard
to
this
small
area.
L
And
yes,
the
homeownership
issue
right
here,
Austin
has
below
10%
and
and
Brighton
is
hovering
around
22%
I
know.
There's
we
constantly
are
wanting
to
increase
our
homeownership
opportunities
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
anything
more,
that
we
can
be
doing
in
the
nonprofit
sector
to
try
and
work
for
that
increase
our
homeownership
levels
in
the
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
That's
all
I
have
for
now.
C
That's
all
ok,
so
I'm
gonna
have
Tim
to
talk
a
little
bit.
Well,
let
me
see
if
I
can
run
through
and
then
see
if
there's
time
for
Tim
to
jump
in
and
add,
but
so,
as
you
know,
we've
been
debating
the
inclusionary
development
policy
internally
now
for
many
months
looking
at-
and
this
was
looking
at
the
market
very
carefully
and
and
seeing
how
much
if
there
was
more,
we
could
be
asking
from
our
developer
community,
you
know
could
could
they
do
provide
more
affordable
housing
and
at
what
level
of
affordability?
C
And
so
you
know
the
last
couple
of
months.
I
must
say
that
work
has
stopped
and
we
will
probably
have
to
look
and
see
whether
or
not
the
the
underwriting
and
the
conditions
have
changed,
but
but
that
work
is
underway
and
we
certainly
have
heard
that
that
the
inclusionary
development
policy
may
not
be
providing
enough
affordable
housing
or
at
the
right
levels.
So
I
opted
in
come
back
on
that
at
this
time.
So
we
agree
that
colleges
and
universities
need
to
provide
more
housing
on
campus.
C
We
have
been
very
supportive
and
we
have
a
goal
in
the
housing
plan
to
create
18,000
dorm
beds.
We've
permitted
about
10,000
I
want
to
say,
but
the
colleges
and
universities
need
to
continue
to
look
at
this
I
mean
really
do
need.
We
need
more
more
of
the
students
on
campus
or
in
college,
sponsored
housing
and
and
and
not
not
in
the
neighborhoods,
so
we'll
continue
to
push
through
the
institutional
master
plans
with
the
BPD.
C
A
on
that
very
issue
des
letting
we
just
got
a
three
million
dollar
grant
and
I
want
to
say
in
December
of
last
year,
so
we
do
have
the
letting
money
available.
There
are
some
restrictions,
it's
federal
money,
but
we
we
work
very,
very
hard
to
target
children
that
have
gotten
any
kind
of
elevated
blood
level
determinations.
So
we're
we're
very
you
know.
Well
you
love
to
sit
down
with
you
and
your
staff
and
go
over
that
program.
C
It's
a
very
robust
program
and
we're
always
looking
for
letting
properties
so
we'd
love
to
sit
down
with
you
on
that
you're
right.
The
small
area
FMRS
gives
more
ability
for
renters
with
the
voucher
to
move
in
other
neighborhoods
that
might
have
a
higher
rent
than
the
FMRS
I.
Don't
know
if,
since
the
BHA
made
that
change,
whether
or
not
households
are
moving
into
Austin
and
Brighton,
I
am
assuming
that
they
are
I,
don't
have
those
numbers,
but
we
can
certainly
get
those
for
you
tips
or
anything.
You
want
to
add
on
IDP.
C
M
Was
having
problems
unmuting
I
think
that
Sheila
basically
covered
it.
We
want
to
continue
that
we
are
very
thankful
for
the
communications
and
the
consultations
we've
had
with
communities
as
well
as
with
organizations,
including
the
Brighton
area
and
in
terms
of
home
ownership,
and
also
like
I,
am
also
heartened
by
the
fact
that,
on
the
market
rates,
I
developers
over
the
last
two
years,
instead
of
being
at
10:15
as
homeownership
units
have
moved
up
to
about
30%
of
them
uses
homeownership,
including
a
project
on
the
road
that
just
started
construction.
M
C
L
The
other
issue
really
is
just
to
run
back
to
the
whole
issue
about
family
size
units
as
well.
A
lot
of
the
homeownership
opportunities
are
for
studios
in
one
bedrooms
and
we
really
need
more
housing,
homeownership
opportunities
that
are
suitable
for
families
as
well.
But
it's
a
complex,
it's
a
complex
market.
It
was
a
complex
problem,
so
I
appreciate
all
your
work
on
that.
Thank
you.
P
You
I
apologize
for
the
connection
issues
I
made.
It
makes
Branson
in
this,
so
I
have
my
phone
as
a
plan-b,
with
just
a
go
to
first
to
the
whole
team.
Dnd
I
want
to
say
thank
you
if
it's
not
readily
apparent
I
respect
what
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
really
feel
that
you
were
on
the
front
lines
of
the
house
crisis
more
than
any
other
office
and
and
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
so
you
deal
with
the
immediate
crisis,
the
pain,
the
cause
from
the
homeless.
P
Mine
and
also
thank
you
for
your
support
in
the
policies
for
linkage
for
the
for
the
IDP
for
working
a
lot
to
try
and
at
least
construct
and
get
policy
done
at
the
Statehouse.
There's
a
lot
of
what
we'd
like
to
do
in
the
city
of
Boston
is
limited
by
how
much
they
let
us
do
at
state
level.
So
I
wanted
to
start
off
with
that
and
just
say
thank
you
to
the
entire
team.
P
P
I
have
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
interested
in
when
I
told
him
about
the
senior
repair
program
and
that
it's
for
small
projects,
ten
thousand
dollars
or
less
they.
They
didn't
know
anything
about
it.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
would
be
willing
to
commit
to
that.
If
that
could
be
a
program
done
at
the
indy
and
then
the
other
one
I
know
that
you
also
get
the
housing
post,
the
lien,
that's
how
it
runs,
gets
the
housing.
That's
you
know,
there's
been
a
taxing
put
on
it
now.
P
It's
officially
part
of
the
city's
portfolio
and
I'm
curious
on
average,
how
many
housing
units
you're
getting
still
and
do
you
expect
an
uptick
in
the
amount
of
housing
units
in
this
Tobin
moment,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
much
of
the
portfolio
we're
getting
from
tax
liens
and
then
also
about
the
contracting,
while
you're
thinking
those
dancers
move
on
to
Sheila
and
asked
a
lot
of
the
constant.
A
lot
of
the
questions
versus
for
my
colleagues
were
about
the
concentrations.
Are
there
people
of
color
or
a
wealth
of
so
on
and
so
forth
throughout?
P
And
so
one
of
the
check
marks
for
looking
at
the
FHA
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
is
looking
at
those
contract
concentrations.
So
I'm
curious,
if
you,
if
dia
D,
one
how's
the
task
force
flowing
into
how
do
you
think
that
we'll
be
looking
at
projects
going
forward,
I
think
like
the
East,
Boston,
East,
Boston
waterfront,
and
how
that
developed
and
how
it's
looking
and
as
we're
filling
in
those
units
and
as
we're
coming
up
with
contracts
with
the
developers.
So
what
burdens
are
we
putting
on
them
not
on
DMD,
not
on
BPA?
P
P
So
far,
when
do
you
expect
the
rollout
and
do
you
expect
it
to
really
be
focused
just
on
already
deed,
restrictive
properties,
or
is
this
something
people
are
going
to
be
moving
around
with
and
just
be
kept
at
a
certain
amount,
no
matter
what
I'm
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
I
know.
That's
a
lot
under
that.
If
you
could
just
give
a
quick
update
on
the
mercantile
and
if
not,
if
you
want
the
mercantile
is
probably
too
specific,
okay.
C
So
I'll
take
a
quick
stab
at
a
couple
of
things
and
then
hand
it
over
to
to
Donald
right.
So
the
voucher
program
is
slated
to
start
January
1
ish
there
have
been
there
were
several
planning
meetings
internally
and
with
external
partners
of
the
BHA.
Some
themes
that
we're
hearing
is
that
they
want
folks
wanted
to
serve.
You
know
some
of
our
most
needy.
They
also
want
to
be
a
flexible
program
that
can
be
responsive
to
needs
as
they
arise.
C
They
they
don't
necessarily
they
don't
want
it,
sir.
They
want
they
want
to
lose
some
of
those
shackles
from
some
of
the
federal
the
federal
requirements,
especially
around
documentation,
etc.
Mm-Hmm,
so
that
those
conversations
are
ongoing
and
the
idea
is
with
this
first
slug.
That's
in
this
budget.
That's
why
it's
2,500!
C
45
day
turnaround
time
on
and
then
I
will
own
publicly
on
this
documents
that
are
that
on
this
in
this
hearing
that
we
lost
that
deadline
due
to
the
coab
in
nineteen
pandemic,
it's
it
was
just
I
thought
I
said:
okay.
Now,
a
lot
of
this
work
is
gonna.
Stop
so
we'll
focus
on
that
and
the
work
has
just
changed.
It's
been
very
very
busy
time,
but
there
are
sections
that
Tim
and
I
are
going
back
and
forth
on
that.
C
We
want
to
start
giving
to
the
committee
to
review
in
the
ending
upcoming
days,
so
it
may
not
be
all
exactly
where
we
want
to
be,
but
we
do
want
to
get
some
of
the
sections
out
to
folks,
so
we
can
start
reviewing
some
what
piecemeal,
but
the
document
is
important
to
us.
We
want
to
get
it
finalized,
so
we
can
start
implementing
it.
C
Certainly,
you
know
I
think
we
know
that
you're
interested.
We
are
certainly
interested
in
making
sure
that
communities
are
diverse
in
in
many
many
ways
and
elements
are
as
well
so
that
it's
it's
that
document.
It's
it's
public
conversations
and
it's
it's
certainly
requirements
on.
You
know
we
will
continue
to
put
on
developers
so
I
think
it's
a
matter
that
we
don't
Boston
build.
You
know
on
clays
for
certain
types
of
people,
I
mean
the
healthiest.
Neighborhoods
are
the
neighborhoods
that
are
the
most
diverse,
so
you
certainly
have
our
commitment.
Sorry!
C
F
Take
a
little
stab
at
this
counselor
I
will
have
to
get
back
to
you
with
your
second
question
regarding
tax,
title
intaking
portfolio
and
what
those
juniors
turn
into
so
I
have
to
get
some
data
collected
for
you
in
that
regards.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
me
an
MBE
and
WBE
outreach.
I
will
always
say:
yes,
I
think
that
you
know
coming
into
this.
F
He
was
really
looking
to
provide
those
opportunities
for
those
small
contractors,
and
so
what
I've
never
spent
quite
a
time-
and
it's
not
just
me
it's
my
team
and
other
folks
within
the
agency,
but
working
towards
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
could
do
to
make
it
as
easy
as
seamless
as
possible,
and
so
it
went
from
really.
You
know,
like
my
operations
manager,
sitting
someone
down
and
registering
them
as
a
vendor.
Once
we
started
to
share
and
have
these
congress's
with
the
Office
of
Economic
Development,
it
became
more
of
a
program.
F
A
project
like
this
was
something
that
we
really
needed
to
do
and
we
needed
to
bring
other
divisions
of
agencies
together
to
have
this
same
conversation
and
dialogue,
and
so
we've
created
systems.
It's
great
that
the
Office
of
Economic
Development
was
right
downstairs,
and
so
we
could
literally
I
mean
it
is
how
it
went
contractor
would
come
in
to
our
floor.
F
We
take
him
downstairs
to
get
him
registered,
I
mean
it
was
literally
a
process
like
that,
but
what
we
have
known
is
that
we
had
to
start
and
meet
contractors
where
they
were
at
and
then
build
from
it,
and
so
from
that
you've
heard
of
the
many
workshops
that
we
that
we've
held
outreach
events.
So
when
building
those
events,
we
realized
that
we
had
to
get
as
much
done.
While
we
had
those
contractors,
those
small
businesses
there,
we
did
one
at
the
bowling
Bell
building,
but
we
had
procurement.
We
had
do
it
available.
F
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor
Edwards,
thank
you
to
the
team.
I'll
be
sure
to
give
myself
same
amount
of
time.
So
yeah
thanks
I'll,
just
echo
everyone's
thanks
to
the
DMT
team
for
for
work,
known
and
unknown
and
I
just
wanna,
I
guess
one
question
I
have
and
it
was
in
the
questions
I
sent
over
it's
just
you
know,
there's
a
there
is
a
huge
increase
in
DS
funds
and
responsibilities
over
the
past
few
years.
B
But
when
you
look
at
the
sort
of
five-year
FTE
line,
it's
pretty
flat,
it's
a
little
bit
down,
in
fact,
and
so
I'm,
one
of
one
of
my
sort
of
focuses
as
we
enter
this
period.
That
I
think
is
obviously
gonna,
be
a
harder
time
financially
is
you
know,
I
think,
there's
I
think
probably
the
place
where
we
have
the
most
opportunity
to
grow
city.
C
And
we
I
did
have
brick
look
at
this.
Quite
your
question
when
and
so
I
you're
right,
the
FTEs
have
remained
pretty
flat.
We
have
over
the
last.
You
know
three
four
years
when
Quinn
a
more
of
an
administrative
position
retires,
we
have
replaced
those
positions,
we
don't
allow
changing
up
of
positions
and
we've
made
them
much
more
program
or
development.
C
So,
and
so
we
just
have
looked
at,
we've
analyzed
every
position
there
and,
as
you
know,
and
in
city
departments
or
government
departments,
there
are
folks
that
do
a
lot
of
the
program
work
and
then
there
are
some
more
behind
the
scenes
that
maybe
aren't
as
as
busy.
So
we've
made
sure
that
every
position
that
we're
bringing
on
really
you
know
they're
busy
and
there's,
there's
no
downtime,
so
I
think
what
you're
seeing
is
you're
seeing
the
same
number.
But
the
the
actual
roles
of
the
FTEs
have
changed.
C
We're
also
really
trying
to
use
Salesforce
more
now
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
tracking
and
compliance
online,
so
I
think
we're
seeing
more
of
a
tech
response.
Oftentimes
and
then
you
know
using
a
lot
of
paper
and
having
people.
You
know
manage
a
lot
of
paper,
so
Rick
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
but
I.
E
E
B
I
guess
another
question:
I
would
love
sheÃll
if
you
could
just
speak
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
the
directions
that
you're
planning
to
take
the
AOP
program
this
year.
Both
in
terms
of
you
know
the
relevance
to
this
new
situation,
and
you
know
you
talked
about
the
possibility
that
might
be
easier
for
us
to
get
some
first-time
homebuyer
opportunities.
B
C
C
C
So
we
would
like
more
participation,
we're
also
looking
at
and
getting
ready.
Just
Boatwright
has
done
a
great
job
of
bringing
together
a
lot
of
the
funders.
You
know
state
a
lot
of
our
quasi
publics
and
really
looking
at
how
we
can
not
just
focus
on
the
triple
Decker's
and
six
families
which
are
fabulous.
But
how
do
we
grow
the
program
so
we're
really
in
a
position?
Thank
you.
We're
really
in
a
position
to
purchase
larger
apartment
complexes.
C
Twenty
forty,
fifty
you
know
fair
lawn
breaks,
my
heart
still
three
hundred
units
in
Mattapan
that
that
someone
tried
to
buy
and
create
affordable
housing,
so
we're
we
are,
give
it
a
name.
They've
been
meeting
regularly
and
it's
capturing
affordability
through
market
acquisitions,
cama
cama.
So
we
really
want
to
grow
the
program
and
make
it
on
that
can
be
very
retail
and
by
the
small
properties,
but
that
we
can
have
a
big
influence
in
you
know:
stabilizing
larger
portfolios.
C
If
the
market
slows
down,
if
the
market
starts
to
get
more
manageable,
we
really
do
want
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
can
make
and
fund
and
support
large-scale
acquisitions.
We
don't
want
to
miss
another,
we
don't
want
the
bottom
to
fall
out.
We
don't
want
2008/2009,
but
if
the
market
becomes
more
reasonable,
what
are
our
development
partners
to
be
able
to
act.
B
Absolutely
couldn't
agree
more
and
I
feel
like
there's
so
much
of
a
risk
in
this
situation.
My
colleagues
have
heard
me
say
this:
you
just
sort
of
you
know
you
have
a
handful
of
vulture
capitalists
or
the
only
people
left
with
stuff
who
swooped
in
just
in
general
in
the
kind
of
you
know,
aftermath
of
the
immediate
crisis
and
I
just
think.
It's
so
important
for
the
city
to
be
ready
to
be
to
be
an
acquirer
and
to
be
a
partner
in
acquiring
for
permanent
affordability.
Agree.
C
And
if,
if
the
mark,
you
know
if
we
see
that
the
tax
credit
market
you
know
starts
to
really
soften
and
we're
not
getting,
and
maybe
we
do
more
acquisitions
than
large
tax
credit
projects,
so
I
think
we're
just
gonna
have
to
you
know,
review
the
market
conditions
the
next
two
three
six
months
year
and
then
you
know,
respond
accordingly.
Absolutely.
C
B
Do
and
that's
my
time
so
I'll
have
more
questions
on
that
in
the
second
round.
I
think
you
know
people
assistance.
We
can
work
on
that
together,
but
all
right
we're
going
to
go
back
up
to
the
top
and
again
so
we'll
do
a
second
round
of
questions
for
councillors
who
are
still
here
with
us.
I'll
just
remind
everybody
that
we
definitely
want
to
keep
and
people
did
pretty
good
job.
I
was
taking
a
time.
B
We
definitely
want
to
be
aggressively
to
time
on
the
second
round,
because
the
DND
team
has
two
other
places
to
be,
and
we
have
a
hearing
this
afternoon
as
well,
so
I
think
next
up
when
I
look
at
who
is
still
with
us.
Amongst
my
colleagues,
it
looks
like
it
would
be
councillor
Mejia
and
then
it'll
be
councillor,
asabi
George,
so
councillor
Mejia
and
you
have
the
floor
for
second
round
questions.
Yeah.
I
I
think
I
asked
most
of
my
questions
during
the
first
round.
I
would
just
like
to
kind
of
follow
up
really
quick
in
regards
to
just
the
initiatives
that
we
have
around
diversity
and
also
I'm
curious
about
I
know
that
when
I
was
on
the
campaign,
trail
was
like
50%
IDP
and
everybody
was
looking
at
me
like
my
head
was
gonna
fall
off
my
body
and
so
I'm
just
curious
of
what
what
we're
doing
to
engage
developers
to
be
a
little
bit
more
mindful
of
the
housing
crunch.
I
Not
in
what
role
you
know
we
can
play
to
help
support
some
of
some
more
aggressive
I
prefer
to
increase
the
number
of
affordable
units
and
I'm.
Also
curious
about
you
know
the
way
we
define
a
forward
ability
is
affordable
to
WHO
and
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
the
work,
that's
being
done
around
our
low-income
housing
and
making
a
concerted
effort
of
making
sure
that
we
are
building
housing
for
folks
who
can
afford
it,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
you
know
what.
How
do
we
do?
I
I
mean
I
know
how
we
define
affordability,
but
what
efforts
are
we
making
as
a
city
to
redefine
that
redefine
I?
Know
you
guys
like
what
is
she
asking
I
could
break
it
down
and
keep
it
as
real
as
I
can?
What
what
I'm
really
concerned
about
right
now
is?
There
are
people
who
are
making
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
there
are
five
or
six
people
living
in
one
place
just
so
that
they
can
stay
here
in
Boston.
I
But
what
is
happening
is
a
lot
of
other
people
are
ending
up,
moving
to
Brockton
and
and
Randolph
and
still
in
because
they
can't
afford
to
live
here,
but
have
to
commute
here
every
single
day
to
work
in
the
city
of
Boston.
And
so
my
concern
is:
is
that
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
great
initiatives
coming
out
of
the
housing
department?
I'm
just
really
curious
about
you
know
if
we
could
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive,
I'm,
making
sure
that
our
most
neediest
sar
able
to
stay
here
in
the
city
of
Boston.
I
C
I,
those
are
those
are
fabulous
comments
and
questions
and
topics.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
were
looking
at
the
inclusionary
development
policy
before
Cove
in
nineteen
and
saying
you
know,
can
we
get?
Can
we
can
we
ask
developers
to
do
more,
affordable
housing
at
different
incomes
without
without
you
know,
chilling
development
so
that
work
is
underway
and
we're?
C
C
We
want
to
see
more
units
at
30%,
ami
and
40%
and
50%,
and
we're
willing
to
even
put
more
money
in
to
make
sure
that
we're
seeing
a
deeper
range
of
affordability
and
a
larger
range
of
affordability
in
the
and
the
projects
that
we
fund,
so
it
the
the
concerns
that
community
concerns
the
advocates
concerns
are
not
lost
on
us
and
we
were
really
trying
to
say
to
the
developers
and
nonprofits
and
for-profits:
ask
us
for
additional
funding
and
and
provide
deeper
affordability.
So
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
that.
B
A
You
I
think
you,
madam
chair
and
I'm,
happy
that
Lila's
still
on
the
call,
because
I
am
interested
in
some
information
about
the
homeless,
peer
navigators
and
just
wondering
if
$155,000,
that
was
added
to
the
budget
to
expand
homeless
outreach
to
individuals
who
are
currently
not
in
shelter.
Is
that
part
of
the
peer
navigator
program
so.
H
The
new
investment
is
really
centered
around
street
homelessness,
and
so
it's
it's
and
and
actually
the
need
for
that
came
from
looking
at
where
we
have
some
gaps
in
our
coverage
for
particular
neighborhoods
in
particular
East
Boston.
We
don't
currently
have
a
street
outreach
in
in
East
Boston,
and
we
want
to
change
that.
H
Similarly,
there
needs
to
be
more
coverage
in
in
Roxbury
Mattapan,
as
well
as
citywide
parks
and
Main
Street
districts.
So
those
are
all
going
to
be
priorities
with
the
new
funding
for
street
outreach.
The
peer
navigator
investment
was
actually
more
focused
on
employing
people
who
formerly
experienced
homelessness,
who
are
currently
now
housed
to
help
people
navigate
out
of
homelessness
in
shelters
or
on
the
street.
Although
it
was,
it's
been
focused
on
shelters,
so
we
put
that
money
out.
D&Amp;D
put
that
money
out
selected
a
contractor.
It
was
Boston,
Public,
Health
Commission
in
partnership
with.
A
Interested
in
you
have
a
number
of
individuals
that
we've
been
able
to
connect
with
overall
or
up-to-date,
and
what
we're
looking
to
add
our
outreach
efforts.
How
many
how
many
individuals
were
looking
to
additionally
connect
with
especially
those
communities?
And
then
how
are
we
keeping
track
sort
of
the
success
rates
and
then
I'm
sure
that
this
is
related
to
some
of
the
front
door?
Triage
efforts
is
an
additional
investment.
A
It
looks
like
just
about
a
half
a
million
dollars
to
expand
front
door
triage
and
certainly
thinking
that
those
things
are
connected
and
then
back
to
our
earlier
conversation
around
family
homelessness
are
we
learning
some
of
our
best
practices
and
where
we
can,
where
we
can
do
some
collaboration
and
cross-training
around
those
efforts.
Okay,.
H
So
I'll
try
to
take
those
off
and
not
be
too
long-winded,
so
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission
was
awarded
the
contract
in
November
they're
partnering,
with
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless
and
women's
lunch
place
and
by
December
they
had
hired
three
peer
navigators,
although
I
believe
some
of
those
folks
were
part-time,
they
had
started
to
train
people
up
and,
and
some
of
those
navigators
had
already
engaged
with,
with
with
some
people
experiencing
homelessness.
So
there
had
been
124
engagements.
H
Nine
guests
were
on
a
housing
pathway
as
a
result
of
those
engagement,
engagement
and
The
Navigators
had
also
been
able
to
get
52
people
to
sign
with
leases
of
information
among
some
of
the
hardest
to
engage
clients.
So
it
really
is
working
to
have
peers
in
our
system,
and
we
want
to
do
more
of
that
in
terms
of
what
we
estimate.
The
new
investment
on
street
homelessness
will
accomplish
some
back-of-the-envelope
numbers,
we're
looking
that
we
think
it'll
help
us
engage
10
to
15
more
additional
individuals
per
day.
H
Your
next
question
was
about
front
door,
triage
I,
believe
so
front
door.
Triage
is:
is
this
work
to
meet
people
as
their
first
showing
up
as
homeless
in
our
in
our
system
and
work
with
them
as
best
as
possible
to
look
at
alternatives
when,
when
that's
possible?
So
in
some
cases
that
is
actually
we're
repairing
relationship
with
family
and
friends
and
believe
it
or
not?
That
can
happen
sometimes
with
the
right
kind
of
support.
H
In
some
cases,
it's
working
with
sending
institutions
that
are
discharging
to
homelessness,
but
really
need
to
have
a
better
plan
and
can,
if
they,
if
they
put
some
resources
and
discharge,
planning
expertise
into
that,
and
so
with
this
investment.
We're
really
looking
to
work
on
this
issue
that
there's
a
ton
of
inflow,
as
you
know,
counselor,
as
many
of
you
know,
into
homelessness
in
Boston
and
and
people
deserve
better.
So
when,
when
there's
an
alternative,
we
really
need
to
be
making
that
alternative
work.
H
This
is
something
that
we're
seeing
and
in
many
in
large
volume
right
now
at
the
Boston,
Public
Health,
Commission
shelters
and
it's
putting
a
major
strain
on
the
that
shelter.
In
particular,
in
this
public
health
crisis,
there
are
people
being
discharged
to
these
shelters
right
now
to
the
city
shelters
and
we
really
need
a
scaled-up
response
at
the
front
door.
A
A
Gonna
be
helpful
where
I
can,
in
that
I
see
the
gavel
I
just
I.
You
know
really
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
all
of
the
work
that's
happening
in
the
real
shift,
chief
Nowlan
and
company
that
your
efforts
there
really
shift
in
thinking
around
supporting
families
experiencing
homelessness,
in
particular
I'm.
Just
grateful,
I'm
excited
and
hopeful
for
the
work
that
lies
ahead
and
it's
not
been
for
a
lack
of
interest
or
desire
to
do
this.
Work.
A
B
Thank
you
so
much
perfect
timing.
There
counselor
savvy
George
all
right
next
up
is
councillor
Baker
and
then
it'll
be
councillor
Janey
and
then
councillor
Braden
councillor
Baker
councillor
Baek.
Are
you
there?
Your
second
round
questions
all
right
as
he
councillor
Baker,
if
you,
if
you're
an
unmute
you're
still
on
mute?
So
if
you
unmute
yourself
we'll
take
you
at
the
end,
but
otherwise
I'm
going
to
jump
counselor,
Janie,
counselor
Janie.
Thank.
Q
You
so
much
and
I
want
to
just
pick
up
where
counselor
sabe,
George
left
off
and
just
extend
my
deep,
deep
gratitude.
I
know
many
had
already
said
it
here.
Chief
Dillon
I
was
a
big
fan
of
your
work
long
before
koban
19,
as
someone
in
the
administration
who
I
know,
is
working
very
hard
to
deal
with
a
very
complex
crisis
in
our
city
and
I
am
deeply
grateful
for
your
all
of
the
work
of
your
team,
and
especially
now
during
this
crisis,
this
new
crisis
that
has
exacerbated
things.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Q
But
if
we
could
just
have
an
idea
of
how
many
we're
gonna
get
done,
how
many
units
we're
gonna
get
done,
how
many
people
we
think
you'll
house
with
those
and
how
much
that
would
cost
us
I
believe
that
the
rental
relief
funds
and
the
the
next
round
for
that
has
already
been
discussed.
So
I
won't
ask
that
again,
but
I
am
interested
in
that
information.
Q
C
I
I
think
it
would
be
great
if,
if
Taylor
cane
could
give
up,
you
know
a
one-minute
update
just
so
the
public
knows
of
how
the
City
Council
has
helped
us
think
through
the
rental
Relief
Fund
I
I
will
talk
to
so
we
bit
about
homeownership
and
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
Rick.
To
about
that.
442
I'd
doesn't
jump
out
at
me,
so
I
think
I
need
his
expertise,
but
we
could
not
agree
more
that
we
need
to
help
our
middle-income.
C
Households,
a
lot
of
households
of
color
who
have
a
lower
homeownership
rate,
buy
and
Boston
stay
in
Boston,
and
that
is
everything.
That's
you
know
if
it
works
right,
you
you
stabilize
your
families,
the
kids
do
better
in
school,
it's
your
own
form
of
rent
control
and
you
build
equity,
so
whether
it's
using
a
mortgage
product
to
buy
in
the
market
or
whether
it's
buying
an
affordable
home
with
limited
appreciation.
But
you
still
you
stay
there
for
twenty
thirty
years
and
you've
got
a
really
nice
nest
egg.
C
We
need
to
do
all
of
it
and
we
need
to
do
more
of
it.
So
you
know
we'll
build
like
I
said:
Koba
19
is
not
gonna
slow
us
down
on
homeownership
we're
gonna
move
on
forward
with
the
mortgage
products.
We're
gonna
move
forward
with
larger
down
payments
using
these
resources
in
this
budget,
and
you
know
really
want
to
see
the
homeownership
rates
in
Boston
increase.
C
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
multifamily,
so
our
homeownership
rates
are
low
but
put
students
on
top
of
that
in
a
growing
young
workforce
and
they
get
lower
and
lower
still.
So
you
have
my
commitment.
We
are
really
very,
very
anxious
to
get
more
homeowners
in
Boston,
but
Rick
I
want
to
throw
it
to
you
on
that
mystery
442
and.
Q
I
can
double
check
on
my
end,
but
I
have
here.
It
says
external,
the
end,
the
external
funds.
It
was
four
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
eight
from
a
variety
of
grants.
So
it's
not
one
grant.
It
was
just
a
total
of
a
variety
of
grants.
I
mean
so
we're
just
wondering
about
that.
Yeah.
E
I'm
not
sure
where
that
number
comes
from
counselor
I
can
say.
If
you
look
overall
at
our
you
know
our
budget,
what
was
included
in
the
budget
book
for
external
grants.
It
shows
actually
a
slight
increase
of
about
six
hundred
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
but
even
but
even
that
I
think
is
probably
a
little
bit
outdated
because
the
budget
was
developed
before
we
had
our
actual
allocations
in
federal
funds.
E
Q
R
Happy
to
I'mso
can
give
a
quick
summary
about
where
we
are
in
this
round
and
expressor
thanks
again
for
the
working
session
that
happened
last
week,
I
believe
at
this
point
for
thinking
about
round
two.
So
since
we
had
the
lottery
on
April
13th,
we
have
referred
800
households.
As
the
council
knows
knows,
my
lottery
rank
to
vendors,
to
complete
the
application
form
and
as
of
Monday,
the
vendors
have
received
358
applications
back
from
folks
who
were
referred
from
the
lottery
and
of
those
applications
returned.
R
We
really
appreciated
the
working
session
and
the
conversation
that
we
had
as
we
think
about
what
future
rounds
look
like,
particularly
paying
attention
to
changes,
to
outreach
changes
to
the
process
of
moving
from
the
screening
form
to
the
application
form
and
then
thinking
about
additional
protections
for
for
tenants
and
in
the
around.
And
so
we're
excited
to
kind
of
share.
Further
thinking
about
what
those
changes
will
look
like
for
future
rounds
and.
Q
B
L
L
Just
wonder
where
we're
at
with
that
I
also
had
a
quick
question
about
Community
Reinvestment
Act
I
know
that
the
federal
government
is
loosing
loosening
requirements,
but
is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
naka
Li
to
encourage
banks
to
be
voluntarily
continuing
that
those
community
benefits
because
they're
very,
very
valuable
in
terms
of
new
homeownership
opportunities?
Thank
you.
C
Those
are
good
questions,
a
good
topic
area,
so
expiring
use,
it's
never
ends,
it's
never
done
it's
a
it's
a
constant.
You
need
constant
vigilance
on
it,
so
we
know
every
single,
affordable
housing
unit
in
the
city
of
Boston.
You
know
where
it
is.
You
know
who
owns
it.
We
know
when
the
affordability
is
going
to
expire,
so
we
track
every
single
development,
and
you
know
several
years
going
to
expire.
We
are
contacting
the
owner
to
see
what
their
plans
are.
Now
the
city
since
1998
2003
giving
any
money
we
require
affordability
and
perpetuity.
C
So
those
will
besides
physical
improvements,
we
can
probably
relax
on
those
some
but
who
the
Babcock
Towers
has
been.
You
know,
I
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
do.
We
we've
contacted
the
owner,
I'm
sure
you've
contacted
the
owner,
that's
HUD,
tenant
Alliance
has
organized
the
tenants,
but
the
owner
does
not
want
to
extend
the
affordability
so
now
I
think
we
need
to
shift
on
that
want
to
make
sure
the
tons
are
okay,
working
with
to
life
and
JJ
Carrell,
and
maybe
you
know
some
rental
subsidies
et
cetera.
C
So
it's
a
we
hate
to
lose
them,
but
Warren
was
the
same.
You
know
you
you
reach
out
you
reach
out
and
reach
out,
and
sometimes
owners
just
are
infusing
to
cooperate.
The
difference
with
Warren,
though,
is
that
the
tenants
had
federal
protections,
whereas
the
tents
and
Babcock
towers
do
not.
So
you
know
we'll
continue
working
closely
with
your
office
and
making
sure
that
the
residents
of
Babcock
towers
are
going
to
be
ok,
they
were
wonderful.
As
you
know,
there
are
a
wonderful
group
of
people
and
they're.
C
M
So
I
think
it's
a
very
good
question.
I
really
I
have
to
say
I,
don't
have
a
response
at
the
ready
at
the
moment,
however,
I
think
that
there
is
a
long
history
of
activity
that
has
occurred
locally.
That
has
helped
to
keep
local
banks
very
engaged.
The
mass
community
and
banking
councils
they're
one
of
those
tools,
the
mass
Housing
Partnership
funds,
all
those
tools,
mechanisms
we
have
in
place
and
as
we
are
seeing,
we
set
success:
the
Boston
home
center
and
working
with
lenders
to
get
some
agreements
around
foreclosure
moratorium.
M
B
P
You
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
well
one.
The
numbers
are
great
Taylor.
Thank
you
so
much
so
we're
at
about
300
people.
So
far,
it's
only
going
to
increase
and
I
believe
we
testified
during
the
wrecking
session,
which
I
actually
thought
was
very
productive,
a
good
back
and
forth
that
were
a
minimum.
Looking
for
the
same
800,
if
not
more
for
the
second
round,
so
that's
all
I
understand
is
our
goal
is
to
meet
the
minimum
800
to
match
that
and
if
not
go
higher.
So
thank
you
again.
P
This
I
know
you
were
building
a
bike
and
try
to
ride
it
at
the
same
time
and
that's
what
was
happening
for
a
lot
of
folks,
and
so
it
is
I
can
I
see
the
second
round
already
and
you've
already
made
and
testified
to
the
amount
of
improvement
and
how
you're
making
it
even
smoother.
So
thank
you
to
the
we
all
stood
in
front
of
Maha
I
think
a
year
ago,
maybe
two
years
ago
and
took
got
pies
and
came
home
saying
we
all
agree
to
a
thousand
new
homeowners
in
five
years.
P
All
right
and
I
I'm
excited
about
that.
So,
if
I
don't
know,
if
we
have
an
update,
our
colleges
have
you
mentioned
this
update
before
how
we
are
in
that
track.
Tie
plates,
sabi,
counselor,
sobbing
George,
Adam
cook
I,
don't
care!
It
was
something
anyway,
but
it's
so
I'm
curious
if
we
could
track
that
where
we
were,
it
was
a
year
or
two
ago
how
we
see
that
projection.
P
That's
me:
there's
a
lot
of
us
who
we'll
never
own
the
traditional
way.
Is
there
a
way
to
look
at
us
owning
cooperatively?
So
three
of
us
can
come
together
for
a
down
payment.
Three
of
us
can
own
the
triple
decker.
How
do
we
treat
at
least
a
program
to
get
educated
I
remember
at
D&D,
one
of
the
one.
P
The
biggest
hindrances
was
the
fact
that
the
banking
institutions
were
not
loaning
and
not
helping
out
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
leverage
come
up
with
a
program
for
what
cooperative
ownership
even
looks
like
how
to
get
in
line
for
it
and
then
talk
to
our
banking
institutions
and
say
you
need
to
lend
differently
talk
to
them
about
lending
differently.
Even
for
the
Adu
program,
a
lot
of
people
make
too
much
money
and
you
know
what
the
whole
ad
the
whole.
What
you
call
the
draining
system,
the
sprinkler
system.
P
Can
we
talk
to
institutions
about
being
better
lenders
and
neighbors
in
Boston
and
then
finally,
I?
Don't
know
where
the
conversation
is
on
land
trust
I
know,
there's
a
big
debate.
You
know
CDC's
are
like
we
already
are
land,
trust
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
yeah
well,
you
know,
that's
a
you
know:
I
love,
CDC's,
I,
love
them,
but
a
lot
of
times
there's
a
you
know,
but
I'm
just
curious,
I
I.
Think
right.
Now
is
the
time
to
be
as
traded
as
possible.
P
C
Let
me
let
me
take
a
stab
at
a
couple
of
these,
but
team
feel
free
to
jump
in
so
I'm.
Just
looking
at
my
plan
performance
goals
and
it
seems
like
we're
at
346
homeowners
supported,
that's
down
payment
and
closing
costs
and
or
affordable,
actual
affordable
properties.
They
bought
out
of
the
thousands
so
I'm
glad
to
get
you
a
breakdown
of
sort
of
those
components
but
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see.
C
Hopefully,
we're
gonna
see
that
number
increase,
as
are
the
new
resources
to
CPA,
and
this
particular
budget
hit
the
street
so
want
to
do
that.
I,
love,
land,
trust,
I!
Think
we
all
love
land
trust.
You
know
we
are.
We
were
supporting
the
Chinatown
Land
Trust
right
now
continue
to
work
with
the
SMI
and
building
out
there
remain
our
souls
working
with
the
urban
farm
Institute
on
their
land
trust.
So
all
the
land
trusts
I
mean
I.
Think
the
the
CDC's
will
argue
that,
may
you
get
affordability
because
we
agree
to
all
these
deed
restrictions.
C
So
what
do
we
need?
The
Land
Trust
for
the
interesting,
complete
development,
but
I
also
think
the
benefit
of
land
trust
is
that
they
do
create
community.
And
now
you
come
together.
Your
new
stewards
of
a
piece
of
land
and
there's
just
something
symbolic
and
psychological
about
that
as
well,
be
good,
goes
beyond
the
the
tenant
or
that
or
the
protections,
and
they
haven't
helped.
But
I
think
the
argument
to
is
that
they
help
with
foreclosures.
C
C
Finally,
I
am
I'm
intrigued
by
the
idea
of
unrelated
parties
coming
together
and
buying.
So
if
you,
if
you
could
work
with
us,
and
maybe
we
could
put
together
some
focus
groups
or
something
and
to
understand
exactly
what
folks
might
be
looking
for,
I'm
in
I
think
that'll
be
really
interesting
to
pursue.
Thank.
P
You
and
I
don't
see
the
gavel.
Oh
it's!
It's
happy
come
on,
I
have
just
one
follow-up
Kennedy,
just
one
pick,
one
you've
still
got
a
little
grace.
Thank
you
for
it
back
to
the
vouchers
and
I'm
happy
to
have
a
deeper
conversation
about
those
just
curious.
If
part
of
your
consideration,
because
I
know
you
said
suggestions,
so
one
of
the
suggestions
I
have
is
as
I
got.
Water
fall
almost
like.
P
So
if
you
don't
qualify
for
bps
and
then,
if
you
don't
qualify
for
the
VHA
one
that
that
we
call
down
the
population
of
those
qualified
for
Boston
residents,
if
that's
all
so
that,
so
that
we're
not
all
looking
at
the
same
group
of
qualified
folks
does
that
make
sense?
So,
basically,
how
do
we
make
like?
If
you
don't
qualify
for
a
BPS
and
you
don't
qualify
for
a
BHA,
then
you
should
be
applying
for
the
city
voucher,
oh
I,.
P
Of
like
what
we
did
with
rental
relief
to
try
and
get
to
certain
populations
right,
look
what
I
understand
I
think
most
of
my
colleagues
do.
There
is
no
absolute
fix.
There's
no
voucher
program.
That's
going
to
actually
ever
fill
the
eight
the
huge
chasm
of
need
for
affordable
housing,
but
in
as
much
as
we
have
these
different
resources.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
not
you
know
a
person
doesn't
put
in
like
five
different
applications
and
just
wait
while
someone
else
is
precluded
from
apply
to
any
of
them.
C
P
C
B
B
The
public
have
been
waiting
patiently
to
testify
and
and
then
we
will
conclude
so
yes,
councillor,
sabe
George
I
see
you
so
you
will
get
to
go
after
me
and
yeah
and
I'll
just
say
to
Bailey
and
Celeste
who
are
both
attend
attendees,
so
I
think
if
they're
waiting
to
testify
that's
my
assumption
is
that
you
want
to
testify.
So
if
you
don't,
you
should
just
send
us
a
note
in
the
chat.
Okay.
B
How
you're
thinking
about
prioritizing
it
like?
What's
the
system
gonna
be
I
know
whenever
we
make
new
resources
available,
we're
always
asking
the
question
of
how
does
this
create
new
housing
opportunities,
as
opposed
to
just
ones?
That
would
have
happened,
anyways
and
so
just
would
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that
new
program.
So.
C
E
Thanks
Joe
thanks,
counselor
I
mean
I,
think
I'll
start
by
saying.
Obviously
you
know
the
the
program
is
still
very
much
in
development.
We've
been
working
really
closely
with
the
budget
office.
There
are,
as
you
know,
restrictions
on
capital
funding
that
we
have
to
make
sure
we
are
complying
with
and
because
it's
City
dollars
there
has
to
be
a
public
bidding
process
and
a
lot
of
times.
These
infrastructure
costs
would
normally
have
been
carried
out.
You
know
by
the
developer
and
they
may
not.
They
may
not
have
been
using
a
public
bidding
process.
E
We
have
to
make
sure
that
that
they're
complying.
You
know
we're
looking
at
mass
works
is
kind
of
the
the
model,
although
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we're
not
supplanting
massive
responding,
we
don't
want
to
reduce
the
amount
of
mass
but
mass
Brookes,
forgetting
because
we're
providing
funding
for
these
types
of
costs
instead.
E
But
you
know,
as
you
mentioned,
the
ideas
that
we're
taking
city
capital
dollars,
which
can
only
be
used
for
public
assets
like
roadways
or
utilities,
and
we
are
putting
that
finding
out
there
and
and
the
ideas
we'll
be
inviting
projects
to
apply
to
access
that
funding
in
exchange
or
deeper
for
or
forward
ability
or
more
affordability
in
their
project.
So
a
lot
of
the
details
aren't
kind
of
fleshed
out
sort
of
logistically
but
I
think
that's
the
that's
the
concept
and
we
know
from
developers.
E
B
No,
that
would
be
great
and
I,
think
I
think
just
keeping
in
mind
also
the
kinds
of
particular
capital
projects
that
tend
to
accompany
affordable
housing
may
be
differentially.
So
thinking
about
you
know
the
fact
that
often
our
affordable
housing
is
on
sites
that
need
remediation.
Thinking
about
the
fact
that
you
know
I
know
one
of
our
frustrations
at
the
Housing
Authority,
especially
in
redeveloping
public
housing,
is
that
so
often
this
was
built
on
street
grids
that
were
designed
to
be
sort
of
like
hostile
to
and
separate
from
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
B
But
as
we
all
know,
you
know
repairing
any
of
that
and
doing
new
street
work
is
expensive,
so
just
yeah
we'd
love
to
be
involved
in
the
ongoing
conversations
about
that,
and
then
I
had
also
asked
a
question
just
about
with
the
home
repair
loans
program.
What
the
opportunity-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
Donald
or
someone
else,
but
just
what
the
opportunity
is
to
create
sort
of
like
a
recommended
pool
of
contractors
that
might
help
us
get
some
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
that
work,
because
it's
a
small
level
work.
B
So
there's
an
opportunity
without
some
of
the
bonding
capacity
issues
we
run
into
to
really
like
you
know,
direct
that
and
I
just
feels
I
know
it's
people
making
their
own
contracting
decisions
where
we
give
them,
but
it
just
feels
like
there's
an
opportunity
there,
so
I'd
love
to
hear
what
we're
doing
or
what
we
could
do
on
that
front.
Yes,.
C
So
I'll
start
minute.
Donald
has
any
ideas,
please
don't
jump
in
so
right
now.
I
think
the
number
is
about
of
the
of
the
the
approved
home
contractors
that
we
use
and
the
jobs
are
huge,
they're
good
size
though,
but
what
it
is.
It's
this
real
steady
amount
of
income
for
free
for
small
businesses
about
42%,
I,
think
I
think
that
my
number
is
right.
R:W
MBE,
so
I
mean
it
it.
There
really
is
a
lot
of
local.
C
And-And-And
women
and
minority-owned
businesses
that
we're
supporting,
which
we
really
would
like
to
even
grow
that
number
more
now.
Anyone
who
is
going
to
go
through
our
programs
that
are
not
seniors,
they
can
choose,
they
can
choose
their
own
contour
actors,
but
we
can
suggest
that
they
use
the
contractors
that
we
have
pre-approved
from
this
list
as
well,
so
seniors
are
getting
assigned
these
contractors
that
we
feel
really
good
about
and
then
also
there
is
people
other
people
can
use
the
list
so
and
we're
all
I
think
Donnell
mentor.
C
We
are
working
with
JP
and
E
C
to
see
if
we
can
increase
that
number
of
businesses
that
that
we
can
use
and
JP
and
DC
is
providing
supports
to
get
them
the
right
insurance
and
the
builders
risk
and
all
the
things
that
they
need
and
teach
them
how
to
bid
etc.
So
we
would
love.
We
would
love
to
make
that
number
that
42%
we
would
like
to
have
that.
Go
even
higher.
B
Great
thanks
and
then
I
guess
I
just
want
to
echo
councillor
Edwards
on
this
sort
of
co-op
point
I.
Think
I
think
the
opportunity
to
provide
technical
assistance.
I
agree
with
you,
there's
like
too
many
pieces
for
it
all
to
come
together.
Naturally,
there's
a
combination
of
the
way
in
which
you
need
lenders
to
be
up
for
it
and
you
need-
and
you
know,
in
with
broader,
larger
co-op
housing.
That's
you
know,
apartment-style,
there's
questions
about
training
people
to
manage
that,
along
with
training
people
to
run
co-op
boards,
it's
a
whole.
B
It's
a
whole
ecosystem,
but
I
think
what
we've
seen
in
my
district
specifically,
is
that
if
you
set
the
sort
of
soil
conditions
right-
and
you
tend
it
early
on,
it
can
really
result
in
a
very
vibrant
ecosystem
that
40
56
years
later
is
still
going
strong.
So
I
think
that
I
think
that
kind
of
bespoke
work
upfront
is
worth
it.
I
mean
it's
probably
most
worth
it
at
scale.
B
So
right
so
I
think
there's
an
interesting
question
there
of
how
you
do
big
co-ops
and
also
to
councillor
Edwards
point
about
kind
of
things
that
look
more
like
you
know
three
families
and
condo
associations,
but
are
kind
of
structured
more
as
a
co-op
I
think
that
be
initiating
explore.
I
certainly
have
multiple
friends
in
my
generation
and
I
feel
quite
comfortable,
claiming
a
millennial
identity
who
are
buying
with
unrelated
friends,
because
it's
the
only
way
to
make
it
happen.
So
I
do
think.
B
B
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
there
and,
as
you
know,
we'd
love
to
see
would
love
to
see
us
building
new
public
housing
in
this
city
would
love
to
and
am
thrilled
about,
the
one-plus
Boston
investment
and
just
I.
Just
really
I
think
that
one
comment
I
wanted
to
make
and
then
I'll
pass
it
back
to.
B
Just
really
I
hope
that
you
know
the
council
can
be
a
partner
in
all
the
ways
in
which
we
can
move
quickly
on
that
front
in
the
months
ahead,
so
I
will
recognize
councilor,
asabi
George,
and
then
we
were
rejoined
by
councillor
Flynn,
who
had
real
connectivity
issues
before
so
I'm
going
to
give
him
another
chance
to
ask
some
questions
so
councillor
Saudi
George
go
ahead.
I'm.
A
Just
gonna
be
very
quick:
I
wanted
to
clarify
the
pie,
plate,
comment
and
reaction
to
councilor
words.
We
received
beautiful
pie
plates
from
my
hand,
I
think
it's
something
you
should
all
be
advocating
for
that
every
resident
have
a
piece
of
the
pie.
It
came
without
pie,
so
now
I
will
spend
the
entire
day.
Thinking
about
how
I
can
get
my
hands
on
some
good
hi.
That's
it.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say
just
always
give
myself
some
sort
of
chuckle
throughout
the
day
and
there
it
is
have
a
wonderful
day.
B
O
O
C
Yeah
councillor,
we
certainly
share
that.
You
know
I
I,
so
appreciate
your
concern
about
the
Chinatown
neighborhood
I'm
very
concerned
about
it
even
even
more
now,
given
the
amount
of
small
businesses
that
have
had
to
shut
her
because
of
Cove
in
nineteen
and
and
how
many
of
them
are
going
to
come
back
and
in
what
shape.
But
I
you
know,
sometimes
I
can
be
very
simple.
C
I
do
think
that
what
we
need
to
do
in
town
it
to
preserve
this
neighborhood,
like
other
neighborhoods
in
the
city
but
chon
town,
is
because
of
its
location
is,
is
under
always
under
this.
So
much
pressure
because
of
its
proximity
to
downtown
the
financial
district.
We
need
to
continue
to
build
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
in
Chinatown
one
because
we
we
want
its
residents
to
be
able
to
take.
You
know
to
stay
and
access
that
affordable
housing
and
we
do
have
a
good
pipeline,
but
it's
never
good
enough.
C
You
know
we
always
need
to
keep
adding
to
it
and
we
you
know.
We
also
need
to
make
sure
that
the
the
residents
that
are
in
in
market-rate
housing,
incheon
towns
know
of
the
opportunities
that
are
coming
on
on
board.
So
you
know
I
I
think
that's
really
what
we
need
to
do
in
Chinatown
and
then
by
doing
that,
are
also
helping
the
small
business
to
survive
because
they
won't
survive
unless
they've
got
folks
that
will
shop
in
their
shops
and
eat
in
their
restaurants
and
go
to
the
bakeries,
etc.
C
So
I
think
for
Chinatown,
it's
all
about
keeping
the
percentage
of
affordable
housing
high
and
and
just
and
never
look
back
just
go
forward
and
always
develop
that
that
pipeline,
so
I
appreciate
the
support
that
you've.
Given
you
know
the
Asian,
CDC
and
beacon,
and
a
lot
of
other
developments
that
are
underway
in
Chinatown,
but
that's
my
very
simple
strategy
for
Chinatown
and
I.
Think
we
got
to
be
very
careful
about
you
know.
C
O
Thank
you,
Thank
You
Sheila,
and
thank
you
thank
you
to
your
team
as
wellthey
of
work
in
that
neighborhood.
In
my
final,
my
final
question
or
comment
Sheila
with
the
covert
19
in
the
recession,
that's
probably
taking
place
and
economic
turmoil
and
people
losing
unemployment
and
people
losing
their
jobs.
O
O
C
Is
the
I
was
on
sick,
million-dollar
question
Airy,
it's
a
billion
dollar
question,
so
I
think
it's
too
early
to
say
we
are
Tim
Davis
in
his
and
a
small
group,
but
a
mighty
group
tracks.
You
know
homeownership
prices
and
rental
prices
isn't
and
how
much
commercial
space
is
renting
for
and
so
we're
gonna
be
tracking
and
looking
at
the
market
conditions
very
closely
over
the
upcoming
months.
C
You
know
if
the
if
the
economy
resumes-
and
this
is
a
hiccup,
then
folks
go
back
to
work
and
apartments
will
be
rented
and
all
is
good
if
it
becomes
a
situation
where
people
start
losing
their
jobs
and
can
no
longer
afford
their
rent.
Then
then
we've
got
another
problem
on
our
hands
and
I.
Think
it's
all
question
of
scale.
You
know
how.
How
big
is
that
issue?
How
many
people
can't
pay
their
rent?
C
What
happens
to
property
values
so
I
would
not
speculate
at
this
point,
but
I
will
I
will
promise
that
we
will
be
reviewing
it
very
very
closely,
providing
the
assistance
that
we
can
and
if
there's
opportunities
out
of
this
market,
we
will
use
those
opportunities
to
you
know.
Enhancing
and
clean
additional,
affordable
housing,
so
I
know
it's
not
it's
not
a
very
satisfactory
answer,
but
it's
all
I
can
say
right
now.
O
O
Instead
of
a
large
international
or
national
company,
real
estate
company
coming
in
here
buying
up
our
units,
I
would
rather
the
city
or
the
state
involved
in
at
least
discussing
it
and
in
being
part
of
the
solution
being
part
of
the
part
of
the
debate
as
well
and
I
I
know
you
are
but
I.
That's
something
I
do
think
about,
as
this
recession
continues.
C
B
B
All
right,
then,
I'm
just
waiting
to
see
Celeste
smite
get
set
up
well,
I'm
waiting
for
her
microphone
to
set
up
I
just
want
to
extend
my
thanks
on
behalf
of
the
council,
to
all
of
you
for
coming
and
for
spending
a
good,
solid,
a
good,
solid
three
hours
with
us
to
discuss
all
these
things.
I
think,
obviously,
there's
a
huge
community
of
interest
here
and
yeah.
C
If
I,
quick
to
you
thank
you,
I
mean
the
level
of
questions
from
the
City
Council
I
was
sort
of
reflecting
on
that
sitting
here
that
the
amount
of
interest
in
housing
and
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
affordable
housing
for
our
folks,
but
just
a
level
of
knowledge
on
housing
programs
is
is,
is
pretty
remarkable.
So
thank
you
very
interested.
Thank
you
for,
for
being
so
smart,
okay,.
B
Slowly,
we
slowly
take
over
the
council
with
only
housing
people.
That's
the
long
term
goal.
No,
it's
a
it's
really
great.
We
appreciate
all
your
guys's
work
and
Celeste
I
still
don't
see
a
microphone
active
for
you,
so
I'm,
certainly
here
to
take
your
public
testimony,
but
it
you
may
have
to
activate
a
mic
on
your
device
just
going
to
wait
a
couple
more
minutes
and
then
we'll
have
to
conclude.
B
B
Cc
CWM
stands
for
ways
and
means
at
Boston
gov
or
you
can
go
to
the
Boston
City
Council's
budget
website,
which
is
Boston,
gov,
slash,
Council,
FY,
21
budget
and
there's
a
way
to
submit
both
video
and
written
testimony
there,
and
we
make
sure
all
the
councillors
get
that
it
gets
appended
to
the
site
that
this
hearing
notice
is
on.
So
we
just
generally
make
it
available
and,
as
I
said,
if
you
submit
it
in
another
language,
we'll
also
get
it
translated.