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Description
Dockets #0588-0596, FY21 Budget: Landmarks Commission
B
Calling
this
meeting
of
the
Boston
City
Council's,
Ways
and
Means
Committee
to
order
my
name-
is
kensey
Bock
I'm,
the
district
8
city,
councilor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
committee
and
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
live
streamed
at
Boston
gov,
slash
city,
Council
TV.
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
Comcast
channel
8
RC
on
channel
82,
Verizon
channel
1964.
B
Our
council
budget
review
process
will
encompass
about
twenty-seven
hearings
over
roughly
six
weeks
or
somewhere
in
the
middle
right
now,
and
we
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
engage
in
this
process
by
giving
testimony
for
the
record.
So
you
do
that
in
one
of
a
number
of
ways
want
us
to
come
to
a
hearing
like
this
virtually
on
zoom'.
You
can
find
a
zoom
link
on
the
public
notice
or
get
it
for
council
staff
and
and
we'll
ask
you
to
wait
in
the
waiting
room.
B
I
see,
you've
got
a
number
of
people
right
now
and
then
we'll
take
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
Ask
folks
to
stick
to
two
to
three
minutes
and
and
identify
yourself
at
the
beginning.
You
can
also
come
to
one
of
our
two
remaining
dedicated
public
testimony
hearings,
so
on
May
26th
at
6
p.m.
we
have
one
for
bps
May
28th
at
6
p.m.
B
we
have
one
focused
on
the
rest
of
the
city
departments
or
if
none
of
those
times
are
convenient
to
you,
you
can
go
on
Boston
gov,
slash
council,
which
one
put
it
and
submit
a
video
or
submit
written
testimony.
That
way,
you
can
also
email,
CC,
CWM,
that's
CC
CWM,
as
a
mother
at
Boston
bag
of
and
sent
us
written
testimony
that
way,
and
if
you
send
it
to
us
written
or
spoken
testimony
in
any
language
will
commit
to
getting
it
translated
for
the
whole
council.
B
You
can
also
tweet
us
informally
at
hashtag,
boss,
budget,
the
O
s
budget
and
we'll
try
get
those
questions
answered.
So
today's
hearing
is
on
dock
at
zero.
Five,
eight
eight,
two:
zero
five:
nine
Oh
orders
for
the
FY
21
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations
for
the
school
department
and
for
other
post-employment
benefits
dock
at
zero.
Five:
nine
one:
two:
zero
five:
nine
two
orders
for
capital
fund
transfer
appropriations
and
docket
zero:
five,
nine,
three:
two:
zero:
five:
nine
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements.
B
Those
collectively
make
up
the
dockets
that
comprise
the
mayor's
proposed
FY
2011
budget,
which
is
what
the
council
is
currently
scrutinizing.
Our
focus
area
today,
however,
will
be
the
Landmarks
Commission
and
which
is
a
commission
that
is
within
the
Environment
Department
of
the
city,
so
we'll
be
hearing
today
from
Chris
cook,
chief
of
energy
environment
and
open
space,
Carl
Specter,
the
Commissioner
of
the
Environment
Department
and
resentfully,
the
director
of
historic
preservation
for
the
city
I
want
to
thank
them
all.
B
We
started
this
morning
with
a
hearing
on
the
other
aspects
of
the
Environment
Department,
and
we've
really
pulled
Landmarks
out
this
afternoon
for
some
dedicated
focus
because
I
think
you
know
it's
a
really
important
function
of
our
city
and
we
don't
want
it
to
get
lost
in
the
shuffle.
So
without
further
ado,
I'll
go
to
chief
cook
and
his
team.
Thank.
D
Here
we
go
sorry,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
discuss
with
you
the
environment
department's
responsibilities
in
historic
preservation.
As
we
discussed
during
this
morning's
hearing,
the
Environment
Department
leaves
cities
work
and
climate
action,
historic
preservation,
energy
management
and
much
more.
Our
historic
preservation
responsibilities
fall
into
three
categories.
First,
is
our
support
of
a
Landmarks
Commission
in
its
nine
associated
neighborhood
commissions,
collectively
the
historic
Commission's
review
about
1300
applications
every
year
in
over
a
hundred
public
hearings.
D
The
ninety
two
members
of
these
Commission's
represent
an
extraordinary
amount
of
dedication
and
commitment
to
the
community
and
vitality
of
Boston.
The
time
and
effort
that
they
volunteer
and
service
to
Boston
is
a
great
gift
to
our
community
applications
to
the
Commission's
and
include
requests
for
a
design
review
and
approval,
as
well
as
for
demolition.
The
Landmarks
Commission
is
also
an
arbiter
of
whether
a
structure
is
historically
significant
and
therefore
eligible
program
under
the
Community
Preservation
Act,
the
historic
preservation
staff
work
with
applicants
to
help
them
understand
historic
preservation,
guidelines
and
applications.
D
They
organize
hearings
and
they
inspect
sites
when
necessary,
to
ensure
compliance
with
historic
preservation
requirements
in
respect
to
hearings.
The
historic
preservation
team
has
done
great
work
in
moving
these
on.
At
this
point,
most
of
our
Commission's
have
had
at
least
one
hearing
on.
As
you
know,
historic
preservation
hearings
can
attract
a
great
deal
of
interest.
There's
been
a
major
goal
of
the
staff
and
the
Commission's
to
enable
virtual
earrings
to
permit
as
much
public,
but
as
in-person
hearing
you
just
as
you
were
doing
here.
D
The
second
second
set
of
activities
concerns
planning
his
for
the
preservation
staff,
provide
input
to
the
Boston
Planning
and
Development
Agency
and
other
departments
in
the
development
of
neighborhood
plans
in
the
past
few
years,
primarily
primarily
with
the
support
of
grant
at
the
Massachusetts
Historical
Commission.
We
have
also
been
expanding
our
knowledge
and
documentation
of
historic
resources
in
Boston,
particularly
in
Roxbury.
Another
important
planning
activity
has
been
strengthening
the
connections
between
historic
preservation
and
climate
action,
which
we
discussed
a
little
bit
this
morning.
D
Two
years
ago,
for
example,
we
released
the
resilient
historic
buildings,
design
guide,
to
assist
owners
of
historic
properties
and
meeting
the
city's
goals
and
climate
adaptation.
Climate
and
preservation
teams
are
now
working
together
to
determine
how
the
concept
of
embodied
carbon,
that
is,
the
emissions
represented
by
the
materials
and
construction
of
buildings.
D
Listen
to
the
city's
partner
production
and
preservation
goals
in
the
third
category
is
our
archaeology
program
located
in
the
city's
River
Moore
building
near
Millennium
Park
we're
now
working
with
our
colleagues
on
public
facilities
are
pretty
management
tutor
to
determine
how
the
modifications
plan
for
that
building
will
affect
the
archaeology
lab.
The
past
several
years
have
seen
an
active
schedule
of
summer
archaeological
digs
across
the
city,
the
North
End
Roxbury
Chinatown
there.
For
obvious
reasons,
this
is
likely
to
be
a
good
tale.
D
Properly
claimed
identify
catalog
and
photograph
thousands
of
artifacts
stored
in
our
collection.
This
will
enable
residents,
students
and
scholars
to
you
study
more
fully
understand
all
aspects
of
the
history
of
Boston
I'm
pleased
to
tell
you
that,
despite
the
pressures
from
the
FY
21
budget,
the
mayor's
proposal
continues
the
strong
support
of
our
work
in
historic
preservation
in
this
area.
Our
goals,
fair
fight
21,
in
addition
to
the
projects
already
mentioned-
include
expansion
of
public
access
to
the
Stewart
Commission
hearings
through
online
platforms.
D
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
commissioner
inspector.
Alright
I
want
to
recognize
my
colleagues
who
have
joined
so
we're
joined
today
at
Edition
myself
from
district
8
by
councillor
Liz
Breeden
from
district
9,
counselor,
ed
Flynn
from
district
2,
councillor
Michael,
Flaherty,
at-large,
councillor,
aundrea,
Campbell,
district
4,
councillor
Lydia,
Edwards,
district
1
and
councillor
Anissa,
sabi
George,
also
at
large,
and
and
also
by
councillor
Mejia
at
large.
So
we'll
jump
into
questions.
B
I
think
you
know,
I'll
just
say:
I'm
gonna
defer
my
questions
again
after
my
colleagues
but
as
I
said
at
the
start
really
wanted
to
have
this
focus
because
I
think
it
you
know
everything
gets
done
based
on
how
we,
you
know,
focus
attend
to
it
and
that's
a
question
of
money
and
it's
also
a
question
of
time,
and
so
it
really
wanted
to
give
this
important
priority
today,
our
time
collectively
as
a
council.
So
now
I'll
go
first
off
to
councillor
breed
it.
E
A
Thank
you
can
also
walk
and
thank
you
to
the
chief
and
to
the
in
to
the
Commissioner
as
well.
I
was
at
a
Fort
Point,
neighborhood
association
meeting
on
zoom'
last
week,
and
one
of
the
questions
that
was
discussed.
As
you
know,
the
the
Fort
Point
is
a
Historic
Landmark.
District
residents
worked
tirelessly
with
stakeholders
in
the
city
to
receive
the
designation
in
2009.
A
So
we're
proud
of
this
designation.
Since
2016
they've
experienced
vacancies
on
the
Fort
Point
channel
Landmark
District
Commission.
As
a
result,
they
have
been
occasions
when
a
meeting
actually
cancelled
due
to
a
lack
of
a
quorum.
These
vacancies
can't
put
a
heavy
burden
on
a
current
commissioners
for
sure
over
the
past
few
years
for
point,
Neighborhood
Association,
on
with
others,
approved
Fort
Point
organizations
have
submitted
candidates
to
fill
two
neighborhood
representative
vacancies.
So
how
come
the?
C
Councilor
I'm
happy
to
let
the
commissioners
speak
to
the
the
process
of
vacancies,
but
in
general
we
should
say
that
we
prioritize
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
absolutely
upsetting
not
only
to
constituents
but
to
project
proponents
when
they
can't
get
heard
of
the
hearing
because
of
vacancies,
and
it
should
be
unacceptable
and
so
I'm
happy
to
prioritize
it
and
working
going
forward.
Commissioner,
can
talk
about
some
of
the
processes
complexities
around
it.
C
Just
very
briefly,
just
because
you
mentioned
four
point,
though
I
think
that
is
the
perfect
example
of
where
climate
adaptation
and
climate
mitigation
efforts
meet
historic
preservation.
When
you
look
at
the
community,
that's
vulnerable
to
sea-level
rise
man.
This
is
exactly
why
environment
America
worked
with
historic
places
of
America
design.
Amicus
brief
against
the
clad
the
Trump
administration
against
their
some
of
the
rural
problem,
because
the
effects
of
climate
change
are
putting
our
historical
places
more
at
risk,
and
nowhere
is
that
more
clear
than
someplace,
like
four-point
Carl
yeah.
D
D
And
we
absolutely
need
we
know
we
need
to
do
better
and
we
are
working
very
hard
to
work
out
that
the
whole
process
each
each
district
Commission
has
a
slightly
different
process
in
terms
of
what,
where
we
get
nominations
from
neighborhood
organizations
or
the
nominations
come
from
the
mayor
and
then
coordinating
that
with
the
City
Council
itself.
Some
of
the
Commission's
some
commissions
need
approval
by
the
City
Council.
A
B
E
Accommodating
me,
one
question
I
had
was
really
was
regard
to
a
demolition
delay
very
often
is,
and
a
building
steric
significance
of
questions
about
historical
significance,
and
we
only
get
like
a
90-day
delay
for
demolition
and
very
often
this
happens
at
the
sort
of
the
eleventh
hour
and
it
takes
community
advocates
have
to
scramble
to
try
and
reserve
a
structure.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
work
to
increase
the
immolation
delay
from
the
green
up
to
you
here
just
to
give
us
more
time
to
preserve
some
some
structures
that
are
getting
demolished
in
our
neighborhoods?
E
D
Thank
You
councillor,
we
recognize
that
there
is
there.
There
are
many
areas
of
dissatisfaction
with
the
way
that
process
works
and
we
have
discussions
both
internally
and
with
external
stakeholders,
both
preservationist
s--
and
neighborhood
groups,
and
developers
about
what
a
an
alternative
method
might
be
about
whether
there
should
be
a
change.
D
And
so
we
are
there's
an
active
discussion
about
that
and
you
know
we're
happy
to
continue
to
talk
about
it
and
then
determine
whether
a
new
proposal
is
necessary
right
now.
The
demolition
delay
is
a
provision
of
the
zoning
code,
so
it
is
under
the
purview
of
the
BPD
a,
but
we
have
also
engaged
in
this
discussion
and
so
it's
ongoing
and
we
welcome
your
participation
in
that.
Thank.
E
You
I'm
just
a
broader
conversation
about
the
areas
of
our
neighborhoods
at
our
historic
in
terms
of
our
architectural
interest
and
just
just
the
general
streetscapes,
it's
it's
again.
It's
the
zoning
and
board
purview,
so
I
really
look
forward
to
war
with
new
Fox
and
CNN.
We
can
come
to
common
agreement
across
from
the
Historic
Landmarks
Commission
and
the
BPD
a
to
try
and
get
some
clarity
on
these
issues.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
F
You
very
much
madam
chair
I
just
wanted
to
discuss
the
landmarks
commissions.
I.
Can
the
budget
that
it
needs
to
be
the
front
facing
institution
that
I
think
it's?
It
could
increase
and
should
be
I've
found
most
of
the
conversations
I
have
about
the
Landmarks.
Commission
has
to
do
with
development,
and
usually
it's
coming
in
at
the
fact,
and
usually
we
could
attempt
to
try
and
stop
it.
F
I
personally
think
I
don't
want
necessarily
that
to
be
the
role
of
the
Landmarks
Commission,
but
I
do
want
it
to
be
open
to
people
coming
to
asking
about
and
proposing
ideas.
For
example,
there
was
a
thing
about
the
Mazzara
center
that
was
well
in
advance.
I
thought
that
was
a
good
conversation.
They
brought
that
before
the
Landmarks
Commission.
So
how
do
you
or
how
can
we
make
this
again,
a
place
where
people
can
apply
for
have
an
online
portal
get
to
the
Landmarks
Commission
before
they're,
trying
to
oppose
something?
F
You
know
I
had
folks
thinking
about
in
the
North
End
in
general,
as
I
say
you
know,
but
how
do
we?
How
do
we
do
that
and,
most
importantly,
what
what
is
the
infrastructure?
You
need
to
support
that
kind
of
front
facing
suggestions
receiving
entity
I
just
again
too
many
times,
people
come
to
my
office
and
probably
maybe
even
to
you
guys,
trying
to
stop
some
thing,
but,
and
the
other
thing
that
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
work
with
you
to
map
out
historic
treasures
that
hadn't
been
mapped
out
before
I.
F
D
Yes,
Thank
You
councillor,
so
you
know
we
we
are.
We
are
you
know.
We've
certainly
are
engaged
in
trying
to
spread
the
word
so
that
people
are
aware
not
just
of
the
Commission
and
the
start:
preservation
staff
in
the
Environment
Department,
but
the
value
of
start
preservation
and
how
it
works
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
what
it
gives
to
the
city
of
Boston.
So.
D
D
Serg
are
expressed
early
on
and
then
to
enhancing
communications
about
what
projects
are
coming
with
us
and
what
projects
are
coming
to
the
BPD,
a
enhancing
communication
between
our
staffs,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
disturbance,
preservation
concerns
are
raised
as
early
as
possible
Roseanne.
Would
you
like
to
talk
to
some
about
your
efforts
in
that.
G
G
F
I
may
just
before
I
know
my
time
is
gonna
be
up
some
suggestions
about
not
just
reaching
out
to
us,
but
how?
How
are
you
building
infrastructure
for
the
community
to
reach
to
you?
If
someone
comes
to
me
and
says,
hey
I
got
a
great
idea:
I
want
Day
Square
in
East
Boston
to
be
historic.
Preservation.
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
say,
go
to
blank
link
or
blank
website
fill
this
out.
F
You
will
be
connected
with
somebody
and
they
will
walk
you
through
that
process,
whether
it's
petition
gathering
or
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
that's
what
I
guess
and
because
I
feel
like
people
gonna
come
anyway,
where
I
agree.
I
agree
with
commissioners
fact
that
we
want
them
to
come
way
before
a
development
idea
is
out
there
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
working
to
build
an
infrastructure
and
if
you
needed
more
money
for
that,
I
wanted
to
know
about
that.
Sorry,
if
I
cut
you
off
no.
F
Thank
you
and
just
I
know.
The
gavel
is
coming
it's
up
just
to
make
sure
again,
because
we
have
beautiful
histories
of
all
different
languages
and
different
ethnicities.
We
can
have,
maybe
that
form
or
some
sort
of
outreach.
That
is
multilingual.
You
know
we
have,
you
know
I
think
we
just
did
little
Little
Saigon
like
so
there's
different,
beautiful
things
coming
about,
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
also
had
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
B
H
Although
you
know,
I've
tried
to
keep
a
lot
of
my
questions
or
two
separate
from
the
pandemic
and
are
with
city's
response
to
Cove
in
nineteen,
because
I
do
think
that
as
much
as
we
have
to
do
that
work,
we
have
to
continue
the
city's
business.
But
I
do
wonder
the
impact
that
the
state
of
emergency
has
had
on
your
efforts,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
department's
only
accepting
design
review
applications
with
a
signed
extension
form.
H
H
D
D
D
G
H
Great,
that's
great
to
hear
Thank
You
Roseann
for
that
and
happy
to
hear
that
that
work
continues
and
continues
at
a
very
healthy
and
productive
pace
with
the
with
the
nine
Commission's
that
we
have
have.
We
have
there
been
requests
for
additional
districts
across
our
cities,
districts
and,
what's
that
process
looked
like,
should
a
community
want
to
apply
for
that
and
then
my
last
question
is
I'm
sure
to
get
the
gavel
shortly.
H
The
work
of
the
community
preservation
efforts
have
been
underway
and
we
just
recently
passed
a
number
multi-million
dollar
package
to
support
some
efforts
across
our
city.
We're
along
that
process,
as
the
Landmarks
Commission
get
moved
in,
so
that
you're
sort
of
there
I'd
like
to
know
that
you're
there
closer
to
the
beginning
of
those
efforts,
so
additional
districts
under
consideration
or
what
that
process
might
look
like,
should
somebody
be
interested
in
it
and
then
your
role
in
the
CPA
process.
Thank
you.
Oh.
Why.
D
D
Commission,
a
it's,
a
more
detailed
study
report
and
there's
a
formation
of
the
of
a
committee
that
develops
guideline
definition
of
the
district
now
go
back
to
the
Landmarks
Commission
for
approvals
to
prove
by
the
Landmarks
Commission,
and
it
goes
both
stare
into
the
City
Council.
It
is
an
involved
process,
but
it's
also
a
big
step
for
a
neighborhood,
so
it
has
to
be
thorough
with
the
CPA.
So
for
someone
to
say
I
know
many
of
you
work
to
support
passage
of
the
CPA.
D
So
thank
you
very
much
and
we
think
it's
doing
a
it's
a
great
boost
to
the
historic
preservation
activities
in
the
city
and
has
created
even
more
interest,
I
think
in
historic
preservation
in
facility
we've
been
involved
with
the
Community
Preservation
Committee.
From
the
start,
one
of
the
members
of
the
Community
Preservation
Committee
by
law
is
a
member
of
the
Landmarks
Commission
and
actually
the
current
chair
is
that
marks
representative.
D
J
Good
afternoon,
I'm
so
excited
to
still
be
here
with
you
all.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
again
and
thank
you
councillor,
chairwoman,
Bach,
so
I'm
just
curious
I
know
we
already
talked
about
outreach
and
engagement
in
communities
who
have
been
traditionally
just
engage
with
issues
of
landmark
and
all
that
good
stuff.
J
What
is
the
role
of
the
community
in
this
process
just
really
layman's
terms,
just
because
I
feel
like
oftentimes.
We
have
this
expectation
that
people
know
what
the
landmark
Commission
does
and
how
it
works,
and
the
fact
that
you
can
identify
some
spaces
to
deem
as
historic,
like
I'm,
just
curious
about
that
process,
and
if
there
is
already
a
video
or
already
a
campaign,
you
could
just
point
me
to
those
materials
so
that
I
can
share
with
our
networks.
J
That
would
be
really
helpful
and
if
there
isn't
I
believe
that
councillor
Edwards
previous
point
in
terms
of
any
management
I
think
just
even
just
the
bare
minimum
created
and
how
it
works
would
be
really
really
helpful
to
a
lot
of
folks.
Who
may
not
be
so
super
engaged,
as
you
all
are
in
these
conversations.
Counselor.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
question.
I'm
gonna!
Obviously
let
Carl
and
Roseanne
speak
to
it
is
they're
the
experts,
but
because
your
question
gives
me
the
opportunity.
I
just
want
to
highlight
the
amazing
efforts
of
the
Boston
Preservation
Alliance,
how
some
crazy
Craig
dealer
and
the
entire
staff
that
is
core
to
their
mission,
reaching
out
to
communities
that
aren't
just
represented
in
our
historical
districts,
and
so
we
really
have
to
commend
them
as
community
partners
for
those
efforts
and
there
there
isn't.
C
There
is
a
sense
that
there's
a
vulnerability
there
that
if
the
community
is
not
fully
engaged
around
the
benefits
of
preservation,
that
we
could
actually
lose
some
of
that
building
stocks
that
is
so
central
to
that
neighborhoods
identity.
So
I
do
want
to
give
the
Preservation
Alliance
kudos
for
being
intentional
around
that
work,
Carl
and
Roseanne.
Yes,.
D
J
That
that
would
be
extremely
helpful.
I
know,
I
would
benefit
from
watching
that
video.
As
someone
now
who's
in
City,
Hall
I
have
a
responsibility
to
know
all
of
these
things,
but
if
you
all
can
help
you
better
understand
the
work
that
you
will
do,
then
I
can
be
I
could
be
of
service
and
helping
other
people
to
understand
why
it's
so
important
for
us
to
preserve
some
of
these
historical
places
and
also
how
do
we
identify
what
is
deemed
as
historical.
J
I,
don't
want
to
make
the
assumption
some
but
I'm
sure
there's
like
some
prerequisite
of
what
that
looks
like
and
I
think
you
can
all
benefit
from
well.
At
least
I'll
speak
to
myself
on
the
council.
I
know
that
I
can
benefit
and
I
don't
want
this
to
be
about
me,
but
I'm.
Talking
about
the
people
who
follow
the
work
that
we
do
from
our
office.
I
think
that
we,
the
community
at
large,
would
definitely.
D
J
I
have
one
more
question
before
councillor:
Bob
puts
that
gavel
down.
Is
that
I'm
just
curious
about?
Is
there
how
do
in
terms
of
development?
Is
there
a
certain
knotted
line
where
we
say
that
developers
can
build
because
I
know
in
Dorchester
by
the
meetinghouse
I
think
it's
around
there?
There
was
a
building
that
was
supposed
to
be
historic,
but
there
was
some
question
about
when
the
deed
was
written.
Is
there
any
way
for
us
to.
J
B
L
Thank
you
well
good
afternoon,
everybody
great
to
see
you
thank
you,
probably
great
work,
I'm
delighted
to
have
the
special
focus
on
landmarks
and
just
know
what
an
important
role
it
serves
and
how
acutely
were
reminded
of
how
important
it
is,
as
it
relates
to
preservation
being
part
of
planning
and
obviously
goes
without
saying,
remembering
our
history.
You
know
it
seems
that
every
couple
months
we
hear
about
a
beloved
Boston
landmarks
felt
that
acutely
in
district
6,
with
Doyle's,
cafe,
cloture
and
soprano
or
announcement
of
closure
in
September.
L
Just
last
week,
great
Scot
and
Austin
and
council
braids
district
top
of
the
hub
organ
park.
The
list
goes
on
and
on
and
I
think.
Sometimes
it's
can
be
frustrating
that
we're
not
able
to
sort
of
leverage
some
resources,
because
many
of
these
buildings
or
businesses
don't
necessarily
reach
the
high
threshold
of
landmark
designation.
So
my
first
question
is
Rosana:
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
I
guess,
I'll
start
with
a
question?
How
many
petitions
for
landmarks
designation?
Did
your
department.
G
L
How
would
we
change
that,
because
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
crux
of
on
line
of
questioning
this
is
that
you
know
we
can.
Preservation
planning
is
key
to
development
and
it's
also
key
to
uniqueness
in
the
fabric
of
a
city
like
Boston,
particularly
perhaps
more
than
most
other
cities
in
the
country.
So
there
are
certain
areas
that
would
I
think
most
people
agree
have
earned
her
most
people
would
agree.
Would
there
are
certain
businesses
and
buildings
that
would
have
earned
a
designation
of
landmark
status,
yet
don't
reach
the
threshold?
L
G
We're
up
against
our
state
our
neighboring
legislation
as
language
in
it
that
says
to
designate
a
let
the
America.
It
must
be
a
significance
to
the
city
and
the
Commonwealth.
If
we
can
somehow
find
a
way
to
modify
that
one
errant
and
and
make
it
a
comma
that
would
allow
our
Commission
a
lot
more
flexibility
and
designating
locally
significant.
L
You'll
wear
many
other
cities
that
sort
of
have
that,
and
and
this
may
this
may
turn
out
to
a
separate
hearing
order
that
I
I
make
I'll.
You
know
post
post
budget
hearings,
but
do
you
know
of
any
local
cities
that
sort
of
have
that
unique
position
or
in
the
unique
position
that
Boston's
in
that
are
able
to
to
designate
things
as
locally
historically
significant
we've.
G
L
Great
well
we'll
follow
up
offline,
cuz
I
think
there
could
be
I,
think,
there's
a
nugget
of
an
interesting
idea
that
it
would
both
help
our
historic
preservation
and
protect
the
neighborhood
character.
So
you
said
there
were
five
petitions
for
landmark
designations
filed
with
year
approximately
and
then
about
eighty
that
are
sort
of
in
flux,
meaning
they've
begun
the
process
and
there
could
be
some
meat
there
and
is
that
is
that
higher
than
what
the
previous
year
is
that
on
par?
L
L
Ones:
I
guess
you
see
as
sort
of
in
this
may
be
a
moot
point
as
sort
of
we,
the
economy,
we
reenter
an
economy
which
likely
won't
be
as
strong
of
a
all
real
estate
market,
but
have
you
noticed
an
uptick
as
Boston's
real
estate
market
has
gotten
so
much
hotter
and
more
development
is
happening
than
an
increase
in
I
assume?
The
answer
is
yes,.
G
L
L
G
L
Well
again,
I
I,
for
one
think
that
you
know
anything
we
can
do
to
sort
of
help
support
you
and
your
department
to
bolster
the
ranks
of
your
team
to
be
able
to
address
these
and
work
with
neighbors.
It's
absolutely
crucial.
Similarly
and
I
know,
the
gavel
is
up,
but
Joe
Bagley,
my
my
neighbor
I'm,
proud
to
represent
the
city
archives
in
West,
Roxbury
I
know
that
you
have
and
I
think
it
was.
Last
year's
budget
you
were
able
to
get
additional
staffing,
a
laboratory
manager,
not
positions,
been
filled
right,
Joe,
I,
love.
L
Great
yes,
I
mean
the
shoes,
absolutely
crucial
sort
of
sub
departments
within
you
know,
environment,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
used
well
and
also
have
an
opportunity
to
both
protect
our
history
and
protect
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
So
I
think
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you
I
always
ask
this
question
so
I'll
try
to
sneak
it
in
I
my
times
up,
favorite
building
in
the
city
of
Boston,
Roseanne,
Carl,
Chris,.
G
C
B
Thank
You
councillor
O'malley,
just
before
I
recognize
councillor
Flaherty
I,
just
want
to
read
into
the
record.
I
did
receive
a
letter
from
council
president
Janie,
who
wrecked
your
chairwoman
box,
do
to
another
commitment.
I
will
be
people
to
his
budget.
Hearing
landmarks
I'm
grateful
for
the
work
the
Landmarks
Commission
does
to
preserve
Boston's,
rich
history
and
I.
Looked
order
in
the
tape.
Please
read
this
letter
into
the
public
record.
Thank
you
and
that
was
sincerely
Kim
Janie
Boston
city
council,
president
district
7.
B
M
You,
madam
chair,
you
know,
thanks
to
the
Commissioner
intake,
to
Roseanne,
for
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
on
behalf
of
the
city
as
chair
of
the
City
Council's
Committee
on
CPA
I'd,
like
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
continued
efforts
to
support
the
work
of
the
CPC,
particularly
in
the
area
of
affordable
housing,
open
space
and
historic
projects
and
as
I
and
it's
kind
of
on
the
same
lines
as
the
the
previous
two
speakers.
I
know
that,
as
that
city
continues
to
grow
and
change
rapidly
on
I
get
calls.
M
You
know
regularly
for
folks
looking
to
looking
at
some
local
local
landmarks.
I
guess
they're,
not
technically
landmarks,
but
they
view
them
as
landmarks
a
lot
of
special
mainstays
within
each
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
now
they
they're
they're,
fearful
hoping
a
fallen
victim
to
to
development
or
over
development
in
a
particular
community,
and
they
would
love
for
that
beautiful
edifice
to
be
to
be
landmark.
M
Obviously
love
the
work
that
you
guys
do
they
wish
you
were
able
to
do
more,
but
how
does
this
budget
support
those
efforts
and
particularly
the
outreach
efforts
to
our
residents
with
a
understand
how
the
Landmarks
Commission
works,
how
they
can
better
interact
with
the
landmarks
which
I
think
folks
just
think
they
got
to
run
around
and
get
signatures
and
then
it's
off
to
the
races
and
if
they
sold
it
more
involved
in
that,
but
does
this
operating
budget
allow?
You
know
you,
your
team
commission
to
to
be
out
to
be
competitive.
A
D
Be
able
to
expand,
you
know
more
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
type
of
outreach
that
sometimes
gets.
You
know
curtail
when
we're
just
trying
to
keep
the
you
know
the
flow
of
review
and
other
absolutely
necessary
processes
going.
So
you
know
we
appreciate
your
support
and-
and
you
know,
we've
seen-
we've
seen
some
expansion
and
they
start
preservation
to
you
but
past
few
years
they
you
know.
D
As
as
councillor
Malley
mentioned,
we
have
a
new
staff
person
with
the
archaeology
team
a
couple
years
before
that
we
did
get
another
staff
person
for
the
historic
preservation
team
to
work
on
with
the
Commission's,
and
that
has
helped
a
lot
so
we're.
So
we
certainly
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
we're
we're
getting
it
done,
and
you
know
appreciate
the
support
we
get
from
the
council.
M
Very
good
Thank
You,
commissioner,
and
again
thanks
to
the
team,
your
team,
zan
and
others
that
do
a
lot
of
work
here
and
I
know
you
get
pulled
in
a
lot
of
different
directions.
You
get
asked
all
the
time,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
support
Landmarks
efforts.
I
know
you
guys
play
also
a
big
role
with
the
curb
cuts.
M
N
You
councillor
Bach
and
my
apologies-
some
technical
difficulties
over
here
and
I
was
hoping
that
they
shut
out
my
video
that
it
would
be
they
would
go
away
what
they
have
not
so
thank
you
again
to
everyone
for
participating
in
this
hearing.
I've
already
thanked
the
Commissioner
and
everyone
else
Roseanne
I
want
to.
Specifically,
of
course,
thank
you
for
your
incredible
work.
I
obviously
represent
Worchester
magic
me
and
my
biggest
neighborhoods
and
I
know
that
you
are
a
fighter
when
it
comes
to
the
work
you
do,
especially
with
respect
to
some
of
our
Dorchester
constituents.
N
So,
on
behalf
of
my
constituents
wanted
to
disperse
Lee.
Thank
you
for
getting
in
the
weeds
on
some
cases
too,
and
going
out
on
a
limb
to
really
preserve
Franklin
landmarks
in
our
city
and
particularly
on
those
that
often
get
overlooked
because
of
the
size
and
scale.
I
won't
ask
this
question
I
think
it's
kind
of
quite
a
bit
from
other
colleagues,
as
well
as
from
the
advocacy
from
residents
and
folks
within
organizations
around
the
capacity
of
staffing.
N
You
know
salaries
and
fully
support
giving
you
guys
the
resources
you
need.
Counsel,
Flaherty
just
spoke
to
the
CPA
in
particular.
How
important
that
work
is
was
really
happy
to
work
with
him
on
that.
So
won't
speak
to
all
of
that.
I
think
everyone
echoes
give
you
the
money
you
need,
but
one
specific
question
I
had
and
if
this
came
up,
I
apologize
if
I
missed
it,
I
might
have
been
disconnected
it's
just
the
backlog
of
landmark
properties
in
need
of
further
study,
and
if
it
did
counsel
Bach
to
say
it
did
it's.
N
O
N
B
Thank
You
councillor
Campbell
before
I
launch
my
questions.
I
just
want
to
say
to
folks
that
I'm
not
planning
on
doing
a
full
second
round.
So
if
somebody
has
a
burning
question,
they
should
raise
their
blue
hand.
Otherwise,
after
I
finished
my
questions
we'll
go
to
public
testimony.
Cuz
I'm,
mindful
of
our
parts
hearing
coming
up
with
some
of
the
same
folks.
B
So
to
that
point
it
doesn't
really
sound
to
me
from
the
answer
so
far
like
we
have
a
plan
to
clear
the
backlog,
because
if
we're
getting
about
five
petitions
a
year
and
we're
maybe
gonna
handle
a
half
dozen
this
year,
I
mean
I,
guess
that's
a
slightly
better
rate
that
wrote
then
replacement.
So
you
know
in
principle,
maybe
in
a
hundred
years
we
would
get
it
solved,
but
I
I,
just
and
you
know
some
of
that's
money
and
I-
think
you
just
referenced
Roseanne.
Maybe
what
it
looks
like
to
clear
our
backlog.
B
Back
to
you
know,
back-fat
83
is
is
$800,000
but
I
just
I
want
to
understand
and
seem
like
from
the
answer
to
the
question.
I
asked
in
a
working
session
like
we
have
a
plan
to
clear
the
backlog
like
that
doesn't
seem
like
it's
a
it's.
A
trackable
achievable
goal
on
the
trajectory
I
mean.
Is
that
fair.
D
C
G
B
Am
I
written
sorry
I
was
needed,
I
raise
it
because
I
appreciate
you
responded
to
my
written
questions,
also
with
a
note
that
you
did
to
councillor
O'malley
about
the
possibility
of.
If
we
could
change
that
and
to
a
comma,
we
could
recognize
more
of
the
types
of
landmarks
that
are
that
our
communities
know
and
treasure
and
I.
Think
that's
such
an
important
change
to
make
I
mean
let
the
historic
preservation,
community
and
Chris
respect
your
reference.
B
This
has
really
come
to
understand
the
way
in
which
historic
preservation
is
fathomable
fabric,
and
it's
not
it's
not
just
you
know
the
buildings
again
with
no
offense
to
the
copley
painting
behind
the
chief.
It's
not
all
about
buildings
where
Paul
Revere
slept
and
broke
bread,
but
but
my
fear
is
say
we
say
we
were
incredibly
successful
at
changing
that
enabling
legislation
what
we
would
do
is.
We
would
then
create
a
massive
additional
backlog
of
landmarks
right,
because
you
would
suddenly
make
it
easier
for
people
to
bring
successful
petitions
for
local
Emmer.
B
So
it
just
seems
to
me
like
this.
We
can't
again
I
said
this
on
a
climate
thing
right.
You
can't
get
there
from
here
like
there's
the
throughput
that
we
have
processing
these
petitions.
It's
not
adequate
to
the
situation.
We
have
right
now
and
it's
also
not
adequate
to
the
situation
we
would
like
to
be
in
where
we
were
more
able
to
recognize
the
historic
resources
across
our
communities.
B
C
I
think
I
think
your
point
is
well
Matt.
It's
it
is.
It
is
analogous
to
the
new
wetlands
ordinance
in
the
city
of
Boston,
where
the
conditions
themselves
lend
themselves
to
a
fresh
approach
not
only
to
resource
Alec.
You
know
allocation,
but
also
you
know,
staff
time
and
staff
just
strategic
thinking.
So
thank
you.
B
B
You
know
developers
are
starting
a
clock
on
it
long
before
we're
even
having
a
conversation,
it's
just
it's
a
very
frustrating
and
I
think
often
also
just
gives
false
hope,
which
is
not
something
that
I
think
we
want
to
be
in
the
business
of
instead.
The
community,
so
I
would
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
the
prospects
are
for
thinking
through
a
zoning
amendment
there
and
what
the
department
thinks
might
make
sense
on
that
front.
So.
C
D
K
B
B
Even
the
structure
of
demolition
delay
the
fact
that
you're
at
the
point
of
like
demolishing
the
building
and
then
it's
like
no
stop
it-
creates
that
it
creates
that
sort
of
Damocles
over
the
whole,
and
then
you
know
short
of
having
a
way
to
just
just
blow
it
up,
which
I
hear
you
on
the
question
of
finding
a
balance
and
not
having
it
be
just
a
lever
to
kill
a
project.
I
mean
I.
Just
think
you
know.
B
We
need
to
really
change
the
structure
to
get
away
from
that
sense
of
futility
on
all
sides
and
also
to
help
people
envision.
What
like,
what
updating
our
our
city
life
in
a
way
that
makes
buildings
really
usable
for
our
current
purposes,
but
also
does
real
preservation,
like
would
look
like
and
I
just
think,
I
think
there
is
actually
a
dreaming
phase
of
most
projects
and
I.
B
Imagine
that
if
we
had
ad
this
is
one
hearing
we
might
have
had
like
a
couple
of
questions
on
landmarks
buried
at
the
end,
but
the
whole
work
with
the
environment.
You
know
Department
is
very
urgent,
so
I
wonder
and
I
will
put
people
here
on
a
spot,
so
I
know
I've
run
past
my
time
and
also
that
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot
right
here,
but
I
do
I'd,
be
interested
in
the
openness
to
sort
of
reinventing
our
whole
structure
for
supporting
this
work.
I.
C
B
B
And
and
I
would
also
suggest
that
it
seems
like
the
sort
of
that
turnover
issues
that
have
been
referenced
in
a
challenge
with
filling
the
architects
role.
I
mean
not
to
I'm
a
historian,
not
an
economist,
but
when
roles
sit
vacant
for
a
long
time,
often
there's
something
about
how
you're
competing
in
the
marketplace,
salary,
wise
and
so
I.
B
Just
it
strikes
me
I
think
you
know
rosanne
reference
the
fact
we
may
be
entering
a
slightly
different
economy
right
now
or
I
think
we
all
know
what
we
are,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
just
wonder.
Have
you
looked
at
all
at
the
question
of
whether
the
whether
you
know
the
salaries
given
the
competency,
we're
requiring
are
really
in
a
position
to
be
competitive
and.
C
I
appreciate
the
question
counselor
just
you
know
the
specific
issue
that
Roseanne
brought
up.
We
also
have
a
very
similar
issue
with
landscape
architects
at
the
Boston
Parks
and
Recreation
Department,
where
we
had
a
lot
of
positions
that
were
just
vacant
because
of
the
private
shoppers
opportunities
there
available.
We
don't.
We
certainly
don't
want
to
take
advantage
of
the
crisis,
but
there
may
be
opportunity
for
people
who
may
be
looking
for
yeah.
B
C
C
B
No
I
want
to
second
that
and
Lynn's
fantastic
and
we've
got
I'm
lucky
to
represent
several
several
of
our
local
commissions,
Beacon
Hill
and
Back
Bay,
some
of
the
architectural
districts
out
at
the
Mission
Hill
triangle
and
at
a
Bay,
State,
Road
and
then
I
think
just
recently
got
an
inquiry
from
Fenway
about
how
they
can
how
they
can
join
the
queue
Roseanne.
So
subsequent
conversations
we
had
all
right,
I
I,
see
that
I've
got
one
colleague,
counsel,
agreed
and
raising
her
hand.
B
E
Concert
about
it's
really
more.
The
interest
I
think
the
area
of
frustration
is
where
the
historical
preservation
what's
up
against
owning
code
and
we're
under
pressure
to
develop
all
available
parcels
of
land
and
demolish
what
we
would
call
pretty
robust
and
stable
housing,
and
it
intersects
also
with
the
loss
of
green
space
around
older
buildings.
So
it's
a
big
concern
and
I
think
we
have
to
take
a
very
holistic
approach
and
in
thinking
about
preservation
of
green
space,
preservation
of
historic
structures
and
then
really
critically.
E
Looking
at
our
zoning
code,
I
think
we've
had
out
here
in
Austin.
Brighton
live
at
a
pretty
liberal
allocation
of
variances
that
have
impacted
on
many
of
our
historic
buildings
and
loss
of
green
space
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I
really
encourage
across
disciplinary
and
interdepartmental
approach.
To
all
of
these
questions,
thank
you.
B
B
P
P
We
sent
him
a
letter
which
I
hope
you've
all
had
the
opportunity
to
review
and
I
could
speak
on
many
of
the
questions
raised
today.
They'll
keep
myself
to
some
prepared
testimony.
It's
hard
to
keep
time
for.
Over
40
years,
the
bots
and
Preservation
Alliance
has
worked
to
protect
places
from
of
vibrancy
and
preserve
character.
P
Here
in
Boston,
we
represent
over
140
businesses
and
30
organizations
across
the
city
and
hundred
of
individuals
from
every
neighborly
historic
resources
and
the
unique
character
of
each
neighborhood
are
central
to
Boston
success
to
its
appeal,
the
tourists
and
businesses,
and
why
so
many
are
so
proud
of?
Boston
is
their
home
icons
like
the
Ola
Statehouse
to
neighborhood
spots
like
Wally's
or
slaves,
rejoice
or
the
st.
James
African
Orthodox
type.
They
define
and
empower
the
city
in
our
relationship
to
it.
Boston
wouldn't
be
the
place
we
love
the
wouldn't
be,
is
economically
and
socially
successful.
P
Without
its
have
started
places,
but,
as
you
all
know,
what
the
success
comes.
Comes
development
pressure,
tear
downs
displacement
in
the
homogenize
Asian
across
neighborhoods,
the
loss,
with
a
connection
to
place
that
we
all
love
and
I,
want
to
point
out
that,
despite
common
beliefs,
historic
preservation
harmonizes
well
with
affordability,
its
environmentally
beneficial
and
advocates
for
thoughtful
change
in
evolution,
not
stopping
and
freezing
the
city.
P
Yet
for
a
city
that
touts
its
history,
the
singular
agency
entrusted
to
oversee,
guide
and
plan
the
stewardship
of
our
historic
resource
struggles,
you
heard
it
it
struggles
to
keep
up
with
its
regulatory
requirements
for
attention
and
influence,
and
it
finds
itself
impossible
to
have
the
proactive
role.
Boston
needs
and
you
are
all
calling
for.
Despite
the
cries
of
residents
or
the
loss
of
historic
places
that
matter
to
them,
we
haven't
had
a
new
historic
district
in
11
years.
P
Landmarks
remain
at
a
review
backlog
that's
been
there
for
decades
and
despite
recognition
that
our
history
and
historic
places
should
be
equitable
and
reflect
all
our
stories
and
the
evolution
of
preservation
that
recognizes
that
our
surveys
and
assessments
of
historic
places
that
truly
set
the
groundwork
for
what
is
recognized
and
protected,
are
antiquated
and
failed
to
represent
that
full
history.
If
we
all
truly
believe
that
these
places
matter,
as
we
say
they
do,
the
Boston
landmarks
committee,
Commission
budget
must
be
enhanced,
despite
what
staff
has
politely
responded
to
your
requests.
P
As
you
noted,
a
chair,
the
Landmarks
Commission
budget
is
rolled
up
into
the
Environment
Department
and
fairly
opaque,
but,
based
on
the
limited
information
I've
been
able
to
extract
I
recommend
that
the
Landmarks
Commission
budget
be
increased
by
350
and
dollars.
That's
merely
point
zero.
One
percent
of
the
mayor's
proposed
2021
operating
budget
that
would
allow
modest,
bump
and
staff
salaries
to
reduce
the
flight
to
other
city
agencies
in
their
buying
communities.
That
you've
mentioned.
P
It
would
provide
three
additional
staff
to
a
lot
of
the
BLC
to
be
more
proactive
to
get
to
work,
to
address
that
backlog
and
survey
deficiencies
to
work
with
neighborhoods
to
better
address
their
concerns
and
protect
places
that
matter
to
them
and
to
work
more
collaboratively
across
city
hall.
Despite
what
the
city
team
said,
they
are
woefully
understaffed
and
that's
why
they
aren't
doing
many
of
the
things
you've
asked.
So
finally,
I
just
want
to
say:
please
remember
that
the
Landmarks
Commission
isn't
a
nice-to-have,
it's
a
must.
P
Have
they
have
a
regulatory
role
with
legal
responsibilities?
In
the
last
several
years,
they've
reviewed
over
one
and
a
half
billion
dollars
worth
of
Design
Review
applications
each
year,
a
landmark
Commission
lose
the
city
forward
while
guiding
stewardship
for
future
generations
and
needs
financial
support
and
I'm
happy
to
provide
my
perspective.
Any
of
the
questions
you
raised
earlier,
if
you
like.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
your
interest.
Thank.
O
My
name
is
dr.
Beth,
Edwards,
Harris
and
I'm,
an
architect,
a
Orion
and
relatively
new
to
the
city
after
living
here
in
the
70s
and
coming
back
and
coming
more
involved
in
preservation
in
the
city
and
I
had
prepared
remarks,
but
where
I'd
pretty
much
said
it
all,
as
did
a
number
of
the
council
people,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
two
comments.
Based
on
what
I've
heard
from
the
meeting
and
one
is
I
agree
with
Greg,
there
definitely
needs
to
be
more
staff.
O
There's
just
no
way
around
the
the
the
backlogs
can't
be
can't
be
addressed
with
the
with
the
ongoing
staff
in
an
inner,
reasonable
fashion,
and,
secondly,
I
also
with
some
of
the
other
council
people
that
it
would
be
good
to
look
at
this
in
a
more
strategic
way
and
think
outside
the
box.
These
study
reports
take
a
long
time
besides
the
money
that
it
could
take
to
outsource
them,
there's
all
kinds
of
issues
that
come
up
with
that,
such
as
neighborhoods
that
could
afford
to
outsource
them
versus
neighborhoods.
O
You
know,
stores
and
restaurants
and
churches
and
schools
that
really
speak
the
stories
of
our
underserved
neighborhoods
and
communities
and
to
get
them
through
this
process
in
a
timely
way.
There
just
is
gonna,
have
to
be
a
different
kind
of
outreach
that
the
BLC
just
can't
manage.
I
am
so
impressed
with
the
amount
of
work
that
they
do
to
do
outreach.
B
I
Thank
you.
I,
come
from
the
sort
of
other
side
of
the
desk,
an
advocate
for
a
long
time
in
the
Back
Bay
here
in
1968,
my
name
about
this
lecture,
and
this
is
a
meeting
and
they
said
that
I
really
should
come
and
and
specify
that
we
really
need
to
help
as
much
as
anyone.
The
Commission
was
established
in
1966
and
in
the
1980s
under
Mayor
Flynn
I
served
for
eight
years
on
the
Commission
myself,
so
I
know
a
little
bit
about
how
how
things
work
I'm,
currently
serving
as
co-chair
of
our
associations.
I
Architecture
committee,
which
I've
been
doing
for
the
last
15
years
and
I,
interact
with
the
staff
on
a
regular
basis
every
month
reviewing
plans
and
preparing
responses
on
various
proposals.
They
are
terrific
I,
so
appreciate
their
knowledge
and
their
dedication
and
I
don't
mean
any
of
this
to
be
critical,
but
their
workload
is
incredible.
At
least
in
our
district
last
year,
bring
four
just
for
the
gist
the
Back
Bay.
They
did
435
applications.
I
So
it's
just
it's
too
much
for
one
one
or
two
people
to
handle
and
part
of
the
difficulty
is
the
turnover
and
staff
somebody
will
get
hired
and
they'll,
be
there
and
they're
off
and
running,
and
then
some
of
them
grab
them
from
the
private
sector
and
off
they
go.
And
then
you
start
over
again.
So
it's
it
severely
limits
the
time
available
to
do
any
planning
necessary
and
you
guys
have
talked
about
planning
and
how
much
need
it
and
I
couldn't
agree
more.
The
guidelines
have
to
be
informed.
I
In
addition
to
creating
them,
the
Commission
needs
time
money
to
publicize
and
explain
their
policies
and
guidelines,
and
this
has
been
brought
up
with
a
couple
of
the
councilmen
frequently
violations
occur
because
business
owners
or
homeowners
or
city
planners
apart
aware
of
what
the
requirements
of
the
districts
are.
Last
year
alone,
the
back-pay
Commission
reviews
45:41
such
applications
once
the
offense
occurs.
It's
time-consuming
and
certainly
expensive
to
correct
both
for
the
city
for
the
owner
in
this
county
should
be
doing.
B
Q
They
track
historic
preservation
issues.
We
track
historic
preservation
issues
all
over
the
globe
and
we
feel
that
it
is
sufficiently
important
really
on
a
national
level
to
recognize
the
importance
of
what
the
Landmarks
Commission
does
in
Boston.
To
say.
This
is
something
that
really
is
a
greater
significance
even
than
then
it's
immediate
need
to
be
to
the
city
of
Basel,
so
I'm,
just
gonna
read
a
couple
of
things
from
the
letter
that
we
submitted
it's
the
blend
of
old
and
new.
Q
Clearly,
historic
preservation
has
not
only
protected
the
most
important
of
these
resources,
but
demonstrated
ways
that
the
old
and
you
can
be
creatively
blended
through
continued
use
and
creative
adaptation
and,
of
course,
in
order
to
do
this,
Boston
relies
upon
a
well-funded,
highly
strained
historic
preservation
staff,
as
provided
by
the
sea,
with
whom
I've
also
had
the
pleasure
of
working
by
continuing
to
fund
the
work
of
this
organization.
Boston
can
maintain
it's
an
iconic
nature
and
allow
these
dedicated
individuals
to
identify
creative
ways
that
the
new
can
build
upon.
Q
The
old
and
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying.
I
was
particularly
taken
by
this
discussion
that
you
had
during
your
debate
about
significance
and
the
the
fact
of
whether
or
not
something
may
be
deemed
significant
seems
to
remind
everyone
that
I
also
teach
preservation
and
preservation
theory
and
the
ways
in
which
one
may
define
significance
can
be
broadly
extenders
and
I.
Q
B
K
Commission
and
a
lack
of
priority
for
our
historic
resources,
we'd
love
to
help
work
and
find
ways
to
make
preservation
a
priority
and
city
again
and
bring
some
different
solutions
that
we
don't
currently
have
and
I'll
just
say.
One
solution
related
to
the
budget
that
I
think
is
crucial,
is
hiring
a
staff
person
specifically
for
the
backlog
and
making
funds
available
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
B
R
Hi
everybody
thank
you
for
the
hearing
today,
councillor
Bach.
This
is
really
a
long
time
coming
and
it's
really
welcome
and
it's
just
great
to
get
the
juices
flowing
and
to
get
the
ideas
on
the
table,
because
this
is
an
important
function
within
City
Hall
as
all
of
the
agencies
who
testified,
exhibited
or
remember
the
leadership.
R
But
it
is
important
to
underscore
the
fact
that
there
are
related
to
staffing
salaries
and
equitable
pay
between
agencies
and
the
professionals
within
those
agencies,
and
also
the
the
support
for
historic
resources
within
the
city's
economy,
but
also
the
city's
sense
of
pride
and
sense
of
inclusion
of
everyone
and
their
stories
within
the
the
entire
makeup
of
the
city's
understanding
of
itself.
I
guess
that's
the
best
way.
R
Recognizing
we're
coming
up
on
the
400th
anniversary
of
the
city,
and
we
really
should
collectively
not
just
those
of
us
in
this
room
today,
but
also
across
the
city,
understand
on
Boston's
importance
and
the
the
stories
embodied
in
place
in
the
city
and
maybe
it's
time
for
us
to
come
together
and
take
a
good
look,
not
just
at
at
all.
The
things
we've
talked
about
today,
but
benchmark
against
other
cities.
Take
a
look
at
what
the
the
best
practices
are
out
there
and
come
up
with
a
new
agenda.
R
We
might
be
more
creative
than
where
we're
then
we
think
we
can
be
right
now
and-
and
that
argument
would
include,
should
there
be
ways
of
funding
landmarks
that
don't
necessarily
involve
a
strict
city
budget-
that's
a
portion
of
it,
but
maybe
there's
some
other
ways
of
finding
other
other
types
of
revenue
or,
if
there's
private
resources
or
charitable
resources.
That
could
go
towards
some
of
this,
which
would
strengthen
both
the
Commission
and
and
the
agencies,
but
also
the
agenda
that
we're
really
talking
about
today.
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
B
B
So
let
me
thank
Rosanna
Foley
and
thank
Commissioner
Spector
and
she
cooked
for
joining
us
I'm
about
to
adjourn
this
hearing
and
when
I
do
we
have
a
two
o'clock
parks
hearing
which
is
gonna
start
at
2:15,
because
if
the
chair
doesn't
eat
lunch,
it
won't
be
a
good
hearing,
but
at
2:15
for
my
council
colleagues,
we
will
be
definitively
gaveling
in
for
the
parks
hearing
and
thank
you
all
again
with
that.
This
meeting
of
the
Boston
City
Council,
Ways
and
Means
Committee
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.