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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means FY22Budget: BPDA
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Dockets#0524-0531 - Fiscal Year 2022 Budget: Boston Planning & Development Agency
Held on June 4, 2021
A
So
I
see
michelle
and
devin
and
barry
and
I
guess
there's
a
lot
of
michelle's
on
the
zoom
today,
michelle
mccarthy
as
well.
I
don't
yet
see
lauren
shirtless
john
greeley
trenwyn.
C
A
Counselor
trin
nguyen
had
a
previous
commitment,
so
she
is
not
on
today
but
I'll
prepare
for
the
office
of
workforce
development.
If
there's
any
questions
great
lovely
to
see
you
katie.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
wait.
One
second
appropriate.
C
A
A
Great
excellent
calling
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
meetings
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district,
8
city,
councilor
and
also
the
council's
ways
and
means
chair.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded,
it's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
also
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
bios
channel
964..
A
This
is
actually
the
last
of
a
series
of
35
departmental
working
sessions
and
hearings
that
the
council
has
held
as
part
of
our
initial
budget
review
process
on
the
proposed
fy
22
budget,
and
today's
focus
will
be
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency,
which
is
not
technically
included
in
the
city's
operating
budget.
A
It
has
its
own
budget
and
somewhat
separate
budgetary
authority
and
everything
set
up
through
state
statute,
but
the
bpda's
capital
budget
does
appear
in
our
budget
books
and
obviously
its
work
is
very
important
to
the
council
and
the
city
and
we're
grateful
several
years
back
to
have
sort
of
worked
out.
A
An
arrangement
with
the
agency
to
have
them
appear
as
part
of
them
as
part
of
our
budget
scrutiny
process,
even
though
their
budget
calendar
is
slightly
different,
and
so
we
do
always
do
this
hearing
towards
the
end,
because
they
do
budget
formation
a
little
bit
later
than
the
rest
of
the
city
before
we
turn
to
them.
I
just
want
to
say:
if
you
remember
the
public
watching,
we
still
would
love
to
have
your
public
testimony.
You
can
come
join
us
in
resume
today.
A
By
going
to
boston.gov
budget
dash
testify,
you
can
also
send
us
written
customize,
ccc.wm
boston.gov
that
stands
for
ways
and
means
ccc.wm
awesome.gov.
You
can
send
us
your
written
testimony,
even
though
this
is
the
last
of
the
department
hearings.
There's
still
a
ways
to
go
in
the
council.
Oversight
of
the
budget
so
typically
take
us
a
first
set
of
votes
on
the
budget
next
wednesday
june
9th
and
then
consider
a
sort
of
updated
version
of
the
budget
over
the
course
of
june.
A
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
dock
at
0524-0526
orders
for
the
fy
22
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations
for
the
school
department
and
for
other
post-employment
benefits
talk
at
zero
five,
two:
seven:
zero
five:
two:
eight
orders
for
capital
fund
transfer
appropriations
and
dockets
zero;
five:
two:
nine
zero
five:
three
one
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements.
That's
again,
this
is
the
formal
set
of
dockets
that
make
up
the
city's
proposed
fy22
budget.
A
Much
of
what
we're
discussing
today
with
the
bpda
is
not
actually
included
in
those
dockets
but,
as
I've
already
mentioned,
on
its
its
own
budget
balance
sheet,
but
we're
grateful
to
be
joined
by
many
members
of
their
staff,
including
michelle
goldberg.
The
budget
director,
the
devon
cork,
correct
of
real
estate,
jonathan
greeley,
director
of
development
review,
lauren
shirtless,
director
of
planning,
barry
reeves,
director
of
the
office
of
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
A
I'm
michelle
mccarthy,
the
housing
policy
manager
and
also
representing
the
office
of
workforce
development.
We've
got
katie
gall,
the
deputy
director
for
workforce
and
policy
development
before
I
turn
it
over
to
the
department.
My
colleagues
joining
us
here
today
so
far.
Thank
you.
A
Councillor,
ed
flynn,
district,
two
counselor,
andrea
campbell,
district,
four
and
counselor
julian,
pia
at
large,
and
I
think
with
that
and
again
I
think
I
gave
this
already,
but
just
folks
do
want
to
sign
up
for
testifying,
and
I
know
we've
got
two
folks
signed
up
further
ado
I'll
pass
it
over
to
michelle
goldberg
the
I
should
say
the
bpda's
michelle
goldberg.
A
This
seems
like
a
good
moment
to
say
that
we
have
a
exceptionally
talented
michelle
goldberg
at
the
boston
city
council,
who
is
the
chief
budget
point
person
for
the
city
council
and
is
therefore
behind
the
scenes.
If
you
know
if
it
looks
like
we've
actually
looked
at
the
budget
book
and
dug
into
it
and
thinking
the
trains
are
running
on
time,
it's
it's
because
of
michelle's
leadership
and
the
excellent
team
she's
got
in
cora
and
shane.
A
So
sorry,
that's
a
sort
of
tangential
shout
out,
but
not
tangential
to
the
process
that
we've
just
been
through
for
the
last
couple
months,
so
credit
to
our
michelle
goldberg
and
now
to
the
vpdas
michelle
goldberg
director
of
budgeting
of
the
floor.
G
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
madame
chairbach,
and
indeed
michelle
a
goldberg
is
quite
wonderful.
I'm
michelle
r
goldberg
with
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency.
G
Thank
you
for
having
us
today
and
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
joining
me
for
opening
remarks
is
barry
reeves,
our
director
of
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
michelle
mccarthy,
our
housing
policy
manager
also
available
for
discussions
later,
as
you
mentioned,
is
kathy
gao
who's.
Our
deputy
director
at
the
office
of
workforce
development
lauren
shortly
our
director
of
planning
devon
court,
director
of
real
estate
and
jonathan
grayley,
director
of
development
review.
I
do
have
a
few
slides
when
I
share
my
screen.
A
And
also
ask.
G
The
mayor's
office
of
workforce
development
is
an
innovative
public
agency
within
the
bpda
that
promotes
economic
self-sufficiency,
to
ensure
the
full
participation
of
all
boston
residents
in
the
city's
economic
future,
and
so
they
join
us
as
well.
G
The
units
are
comprised
of
three
major
business
units:
the
boston
redevelopment
authority,
the
economic
development
industrial
corporation,
which
includes
the
mayor's
office
of
workforce
development,
and
we
also
have
the
boston,
industrial
development,
financial
authority,
and
there
are
two
minor
501
c
threes,
the
boston,
local
development,
corporation
and
friends
of
friends
of
youth
opportunity.
Boston
right
now,
I'm
showing
you
on
our
sources
and
uses.
G
Bpda
revenue
is
derived
from
two
main
categories:
our
rental
leases
and
parking,
and
our
grants
and
donations
category
with
the
remaining
come
from
coming
from
sale
of
real
estate
and
equity.
Participation
for
expenditures,
boss
personnel
and
benefits
represent
the
largest
category
of
expenses
for
the
bpda,
based
on
also,
our
contractual
services
include
the
expenditures
associated
with
owd's
community-based
organization
grants,
and
so
the
activity
that
owd
is
engaged
in
is
reflected
there
as
well.
G
We
have
our
administrative
expenses
that
include
the
basic
things
like
technology
and
equipment,
office
supplies
and
also
in
our
contractual
services
is
where
you'll
see
our
planning
activity
happening.
Our
property
management
category
has
experienced
some
fluctuation
through
the
past
few
years.
This
is
because
there
have
been
changes
in
the
government,
accounting
standards
board
or
gatsby
rules
which
have
influenced
our
interpretation
of
our
construction
projects,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
our
asset
needs
and
how
we
intend
to
address
our
infrastructure
needs,
we
will
sometimes
be
paying
for
those
improvements
through
the
operating
budget.
G
G
G
H
H
H
H
H
B
B
B
B
B
C
H
E
You
can
see
we're
very
admitted
using
our
own
property
to
advance
the
city's
we're
actively
integrating
the
european
south
boston,
waterfront.
E
We're
currently
hosting
the
contemporary
branch
library
for
chinatown
in
building
and,
as
you
know,
we're
working
very
hard
to
find
a
permanent
home
for
a
branch
library.
E
It's
currently
on
temporary
space,
we're
working
with
a
public
private
partnership
to
expand
that
station
investigation
and
actually
fund
this
portion
of.
E
E
H
A
A
A
It's
plugged
in
it's
one
set
one
sec.
I
think
I
just
turned
on
the.
H
H
H
H
E
A
A
A
A
Well,
it's:
where
would
I
you
can
see
it
at.
A
A
J
A
Emily
says
it's
not
fixed,
I'm
just
gonna
test.
Could
somebody
from
vpda
who's
in
the
building
say
something.
A
Live
streaming
and
also
on
tv
and
basically
a
confluence
of
things
have
made
that
challenging
this
morning.
So
I'm
sorry,
that's
more
than
anyone
needs
to
know,
but
we
didn't
feel
like
we
should
just
continue
the
hearing
with
the
live
stream
being
super
gargled,
so
I
think
it
is
is
up
and
running
stronger
now.
So,
after
a
bit
of
a
delay,
we
are
now
going
to
counselor
campbell.
A
L
God
bless
you
and
kerry.
God
bless
you
all.
This
is
awesome,
so
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
of
course,
to
the
bpda
for
your
work,
particularly
during
covet,
not
an
easy
time.
So,
thank
you
all
I'll
jump
right
into
questions.
Obviously
I'm
sure
other
counselors
will
get
to
this
too.
There
is-
and
I'm
sure
folks
at
the
bpda
have
also
heard
this
considerable
distrust
in
community
with
with
the
bpda.
L
We
get
a
lot
of
emails
and
calls
with
respect
to
lack
of
transparency,
lack
of
information,
information,
inequities,
etc,
so
really
happy
with
frankly
barry's
new
role
and
in
the
work
in
that
office
and
some
great
things
that
are
moving
the
department
forward.
But
one
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
flag
is
lori
radwin
sent
an
email,
and
it
should
be
as
part
of
the
record
for
this
council
hearing
counterbalak.
L
It
had
incredible
detail,
case
studies.
This
is
a
constituent,
a
resident
around
how
to
improve
the
bpda.
I
think
it's
an
incredible
email,
I'm
flagging
it
so
that
every
person
on
this
zoom
can
take
a
look
and
really
process
her
specific
ideas,
and
sometimes
people
don't
come
with
specifics,
specific
ideas
on
how
to
improve
the
agency.
So
I
want
to
flag
that
because
it
would
take
a
whole
zoom
to
go
through
it
just
to
really
talk
through
the
the
good
good
ideas
in
it.
L
My
questions
some
residents
have
asked:
has
the
bpda
considered
using
tools
such
as
nextdoor
universal
hub
to
share
information
with
residents?
Has
the
department
considered
listing
all
project
related
meetings
on
the
bpda's
website
and
posting
meeting
minutes?
That's
one
question.
The
second
is:
how
do
we
as
an
agency,
or
how
does
the
agency,
I
should
say,
manage
the
list
of
civic
associations
to
make
sure
you
guys
have
the
most
up-to-date
information
who
handles
that?
What
does
that
look?
Like
my
last
question,
I
guess
two
more
and
then
I'll
stop.
L
Has
the
agency
considered
guidelines
around
the
length
of
time
a
developer
speaks
at
meetings
so
that
residents
and
abutters
can
speak
and
ensure
all
their
voices
are
heard,
we're
obviously
doing
virtual
meetings.
I
think
it's
something
we
should
continue
hybrid,
but
that's
a
lot
of
concerns.
We've
gotten
from
residents
around
not
being
heard
at
some
of
the
meetings
and
then
the
last
question
is
barry
in
your
new
leadership
role.
What
have
been
some
of
the
greatest
lessons?
Where
do
you
think
the
department
needs
to
go?
L
F
So
counselor,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
share
so
I'll
start
with
my
office's
role
and
what
we've
been
able
to
accomplish.
One
thing:
I
think
that
we,
what
I've
been
able
to
assess
over
the
past
months,
I've
been
there
is
the
fact
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
amazing
work
in
the
dei
space.
F
I
think
we,
the
team
of
leadership,
that
we
have
understands
the
the
challenges
that
we
have
and
how
to
acquire,
reflect
the
the
ability
to
engage
the
community
and
to
ensure
that
we
actually
create
their
equitable
processes.
So
I
believe
that's
one
of
the
great
works,
but
one
of
the
lessons
learned
is
that
the
ability
to
create
a
better
dialogue
between
us
and
the
community
is
something
that
we
need
to
do
better
at
and
continue
to
strengthen
in
that
role
and
that
responsibility.
F
This
is
why
we
working
working
with
our
community
engagement
managers
to
improve
that
that
space
and
ensure
that
we're
doing
so,
one
of
the
things
that
you
highlighted
is
our
relationships
with
our
community
and
council.
Excuse
me,
our
community
agent
groups
and
agencies,
so
right
now
my
office
is
actually
working
on
identifying
those
rosters
and
competing
a
complete
roster
of
those.
F
Can
identify
who
they
are,
what
they
are
and
strengthen
their
relationships
with
them.
I
personally
started
meeting
with
a
lot
of
the
neighborhood
groups
and
associations
to
introduce
myself
and
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
healthy
relationship
between
the
agency
and
ourselves.
So
I
think
we're
doing
a
lot
of
great
work
in
that
space.
There's
always
more
work
to
do
do,
and
I
think
the
team
that
we
have
around
us
is
up
to
the
task
of
doing
so.
I
And
counselor,
I
can
follow
up
on
some
of
the
other
points.
You
asked
about
good
to
see
you
this
morning,
I'll
take
them
in
order.
One
was
using
tools
like
next
door
super
open
to
it.
We
can
certainly
talk
with
our
communications
folks.
I
think
we
just
activated.
I
know
we've
got.
We
use
twitter,
instagram
and
facebook
for
a
lot
of
stuff
but
happy
to
kind
of
engage
in
other
platforms.
I
Other
software
platforms
that
we
know
people
are
using
in
neighborhoods,
and
so,
if
you've,
any
good
suggestions
on
it
feel
free
to
pass
them
along
also
looking
forward
to
seeing
that
email
again,
I
think
we've
we
are
constantly
tinkering
with
ways
to
better,
engage
and
make
sure
everybody
knows
what's
going
on,
and
so
any
feedback
is
good
feedback.
Next
one
was
meetings
on
website,
so
every
community
meeting
we
have
is
on
our
website
and
we
also
use
some
of
those
platforms
to
put
it
out
there.
I
In
terms
of,
we
are
also
posting
everything.
Every
meeting
is
now
recorded
and
posted
to
the
website
as
well,
and
the
chat
function,
the
result
of
the
chat
or
the
q,
a
function
included
with
zoom
is
also
posted
to
the
website,
but
again
any
questions
or
thoughts
on
that
happen
to
engage
in
that
as
well
and
the
last
piece
on
timelines.
This
is
something
that
we
try
really
really
hard
to
do
to
limit
developer
developers
trying
to
run
out
the
clock
at
a
community
meeting.
I
We
have
the
same
frustrations
we
want
to
get
to
the
community
dialogue,
we're
always
trying
to
balance
the
right
amount
of
sharing
information
on
complex
things
versus
getting
to
community
dialogue.
Our
goal
is
to
try
to
limit
it
to
30
minutes.
I
recognize
that
sometimes
we
do
a
better
job
than
that
and
others,
and
we
will
continue
to
redouble
our
efforts
to
try
to
put
developers
on
a
clock
when
they're
talking.
I
I
think
we've
made
some
good
progress
in
that
in
the
age
of
zoom,
but,
as
we
all
know,
and
I'm
guilty
that
myself,
sometimes
people
can
run
a
little
bit
long
when
they're
excited
about
sharing
their
stuff,
so
something
we
will
absolutely
continue
to
look
at
and
try
to
limit.
L
I
appreciate
that
because
you
definitely
want
you
know,
obviously
of
butters
and
others
to
feel
like
they're
heard
as
a
way
to
rebuild
trust
and
particularly
and
with
community
who
often
feels
unheard
and
then
the
last
was
just
around
the
civic
associations
who
manages
those
lists
to
make
sure
they're
updated
et
cetera.
L
A
Counselor,
you
actually
have
like
a
like
a
little
under
a
minute
left,
but
we're
happy
too
I'll
pass
it
on.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
thanks.
So
much
counselor
riha,
oh
sorry,
counselor
campbell,
counselor
bahia
is
next
and
then
it
will
be
counselor,
flaherty,
counselor
majia.
You
have
the
floor.
N
Yes,
good
morning,
all
I'm
happy
to
be
here,
and
I
I
definitely
have
some
questions.
We've
been
hearing
from
a
lot
of
our
constituents
about
article
80
process,
particularly
with
impact
advisory
groups,
people
feel
very
strongly
about
making
changes
to
the
ig.
I
a
g
process,
including
requiring
the
impact
advisory
groups,
to
reflect
neighborhoods
better
by
bringing
in
more
people
into
the
process
who
have
never
been
involved.
N
Has
the
bpda
done
any
sort
of
audit
of
the
iag
process
to
see
how
improvements
can
be
made?
We're
also
curious
is
how
can
we
change
the
process
throughout
which
butters
are
notified?
I'm
particularly
curious
as
to
whether
or
not
we
have
any
data
that
that
we
collect
in
terms
like
either
attendance
sheets.
N
Is
there
a
threshold
for
a
number
of
participants
that
are
participating
in
these
meetings,
a
quota
of
sorts
to
ensure
that
you
know
x,
amount
of
butters
and
not
just
homeowners,
but
also
the
renters
that
live
in
the
immediate
area,
have
a
voice
and
a
say
so
I'd
like
to
see
some
sort
of
like
metrics
in
terms
of
how
we're
really
quantifying
what
real
community
voice
looks
like
I'd.
N
Love
to
know
how
we're
defining
stakeholders
you
know,
depending
on
who
you
ask
stakeholders
are,
are
sometimes
could
just
be
the
local
businesses
that
live
in
the
air
that
are
doing
business
in
the
area.
Sometimes
it's
landlords
who
don't
live
in
boston
that
have
real
no,
no
real
stake
in
the
city,
I'm
planning
and
development
process.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
how
can
we
redefine
what
a
stakeholder
is
and
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
that?
And
then
I'm
curious?
N
What
are
the
actionable
goals
that
the
bpda
team
has
around
measuring
success
for
your
dei
efforts?
That's
for
now,
and
then
I
may
have
some
questions
if
I
have
any
more
time
left.
I
You
for
your
questions
this
morning,
I'll
answer
a
couple
things
that
I
think
will
kick
into
barry
on
the
de
and
I
stuff
just
quickly.
I
know
we
had
a
hearing
a
few
weeks
with
you
a
few
weeks
ago
with
you
on
iags
and
we're
still
sorting
through
that.
I
But
one
thing
we
want
we
do
agree
with
and
that
we'd
love
to
work
with
all
counselors,
actually
all
electeds
zone
is
that
we
believe
stakeholders
has
a
very
wide
definition
right,
and
so
we
do
not
have
any
preference
in
terms
of
renter
versus
owner.
I
I
So
when
we
work
with
each
office
of
electeds
on
nominations
for
iegs,
we
are
more
than
happy
to
get
nominations
from
a
wide
range
of
backgrounds,
a
wide
range
of
walks
of
life,
and
so
when
we
talk
with
your
office
or
any
other
office
about
that,
we
want
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
our
best
to
reflect
the
neighborhood
in
terms
of
a
butter
notices.
I
think
there's
a
couple
different
things
right.
I
There's
the
butter
notice
process
that
happens
with
cba
cases
right
they
kind
of
fall
below
arctic
80..
But
we're
happy
to
talk
with
you
about
anything
we
should
be
doing,
and
I
think
this
relates
a
little
bit
to
counselor
campbell's
question
before
what
are
the
various
tools
we're
doing
to
get
information
out?
We
use
a
wide
variety
of
platforms
arriving
approaches,
but
if
you've
got
good
ideas
that
you've
found
successful
in
engaging
your
constituents
across
the
city
council,
we
would
love
to
hear
it.
I
I
know
barry
would
love
to
hear
it
too,
as
he
continues
to
think
about
how
the
agency
engages
broadly
across
the
city.
So
then
I'll,
let
barry
handle
the
rest
of
the
stuff,
but
I
just
wanted
to
actually.
N
Before
I
know,
thank
you
jonathan
before
you
send
it
over
to
barry,
I'm
I'm
curious
about
metrics
and
data
and
how
we
are
keeping
accurate
accounts
of
who
are
the
folks
that
are
showing
up
to
these
meetings
and
how
we're
doing
our
dual
diligence
and
making
sure
that
there
is
some
sort
of
threshold
in
terms
of
how
many
people
show
up.
Do
they
actually
live
in
the
neighborhood
like
where's
the
data
around
that,
and
how
can
we
strengthen
that
process?.
I
So
we
have
in
the
pre-coveted
times
we
have
signing
sheets
for
every
single
meeting,
so
we're
tracking
everybody
who
comes
worth
noting
that's
voluntary.
We
did
not
compel
anybody
to
sign
into
a
meeting
if
they
didn't
choose
to
or
self-identify
since
covet's
happening,
and
since
we,
since
around
10
months
ago,
we
shifted
to
all
virtual
meetings.
Everybody
who
participates
in
a
meeting
is,
is
registered
and
included.
I
So
we
know
every
single
person
who
specific
participated
in
a
community
meeting
over
the
past
year,
even
more
specifically
than
we
did
before.
I
do
not.
We
do
not
have
a
quota
for
a
number
of
residents
that
have
to
be
in
a
community
conversation.
N
I
We
usually
ask
for
zip
code,
but
also
want
to
be
sensitive
to
providing
a
bunch
of
pii
or
requiring
a
bunch
of
pii
to
participate.
In
a
conversation,
we
recognize
that
people
who
participate
in
community
meetings
come
from
a
wide
range
of
backgrounds
and
their
comfort
level,
with
sharing
that
information,
as
I
would
imagine,
is
mixed,
and
so
we're
always
trying
to
find
a
way
to
get
a
good
sense
of
who's
there
and
why
they're
there
at
the
same
time
respecting
elements
of
privacy
for
people
who
participate.
N
That's
fair.
I
do
think,
though,
that
they're,
when
we
talk
about
transparency
and
accountability,
that
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we
can
ensure
that
those
who
are
most
impacted
are
actually
showing
up
and
that
we're
holding
ourselves
accountable
to
some
sort
of
standard
in
in
regards
to
that,
and
then
I'm
just
I
know
before
we
send
it
over
to
barry
just
kind
of
staying
on
this.
Is
there
any
way?
N
A
lot
of
folks
are
feeling
unheard
and
unseen,
and
when
I
think
about
planning
and
development,
it
just
always
seems
to
be
developed.
You
know,
developer
focused
and
people
tend
to
be
an
afterthought.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
revise
the
whole
entire
way.
We
do
business
in
the
planning
and
development
space.
So
I'm
I'm
encouraged
by
the
efforts
that
you
all
are
making
and
look
forward
to
figuring
out
how
we
can
make
this
more
transparent.
I
Council,
I
would
just
say
before
we
shift
over
to
barry
from
a
development
perspective.
Right,
don't
forget
that
it's
there
is.
There
is
an
element
of
private
property
owners
coming
to
the
bpa
and
then
the
public
to
ask
permission
to
do
things
with
their
land
right,
and
so
there
will
be
elements
that
developers
are
involved.
In
those
conversations
we
go
to
great
lengths
to
make
sure
that
every
single
thing
that
happens
is
advertised
ahead
of
time
we've
implemented
in
terms
of
impact
we've
implemented
in
the
last
three
months.
I
Both
the
language
access
plan,
which
is
brand
new
and
the
fair
housing
work
that
I
know
a
number
of
you
worked
on
on
the
council
with
us
in
partnership
to
make
sure
that
we
are
having
inclusive
conversations
and
we're
talking
about
both
direct
and
indirect
impact
in
terms
of
the
the
records
of
meetings.
Again,
every
single
meeting
that
we
have
held
since
july
of
last
year
is
when
we
started
doing
virtual
community
meetings
has
been
posted
to
the
website
and
then
any
chat
or
q.
I
A
as
part
of
that
meeting,
that's
associated
with
the
with
recording,
is
also
posted
as
well.
That's
generally
posted
within
24
hours,
and
so
we're
working
really
hard
to
make
that
I
think
again,
maybe
to
counselor
campbell's
point
earlier
about
exploring
other
software
tools.
I'd
make
the
same
offer
to
you
and
also
questions.
Are
we
missing
a
civic
group?
Are
we
missing
just
a
group
of
concerned
citizens?
Do
people
want
to
hear
from
us
directly
again?
I
We
want
to
leave
no
stone
unturned
and
we
are
sponges
for
feedback,
both
positive
and
negative.
So
we're
happy
to
happen
to
work
with
you
on
any
of
those
things.
F
So
just
real,
quick
council
to
your
point,
I
think
one
of
the
you
asked
the
least
the
vdi
focused.
The
two
focuses
that
we've
really
been
focused
on
for
the
last
couple
months
is
actually
our
community
engagement
and,
like
jonathan
said,
I
wanted
to
kind
of
reincarnate
what
he
already
said,
so
we're
actually
working
on
more
effective
ways
and
platforms
and
how
we
do
do
kind
of
engage
to
ensure
clear
identification
of
stakeholdership
and
how
we
use
language
access
to
improve
our
relationships
and
connectivity
toward
the
community.
F
So
we're
really
proud
of
the
efforts
that
we're
making,
but
we
like
said
we
would
love
to
hear
more
feedback
on
how
we
can
do
better
in
that
space
as
well.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
now
let
me
start
off
by
thanking
all
the
folks
that
are
on
here
from
the
bra
and
the
great
work
that
they've
done
throughout
the
pandemic.
Wearing
multiple
hats.
I
was
speaking
regularly
with
director
golden
along
with
mike
christopher
and
jonathan
greeley
throughout
the
pandemic,
dealing
obviously
with
neighborhood
development
issues
across
the
city,
some
that
were
sort
of
slightly
put
on
hold,
but
and
then
to
see
them
transition
and
wear
multiple
hats,
particularly
on
the
food
distribution
side,
as
well
as
the
ppe
delivery
side.
O
So
hats
off
to
the
great
work
that
they
all
did
as
a
unit
working,
obviously
under
the
walsh
administration,
to
make
sure
that
we
were
making
obviously
protecting
the
public
throughout
the
pandemic,
but
make
sure
that
food
was
getting
to
particularly
culturally
competent
food
was
getting
to
the
places
they
needed.
O
I
know
personally,
I
was
dealing
with
a
lot
of
our
nonprofits
that
were
servicing
our
seniors
and
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
and
I
was
calling
director
golden
and
mike
christopher
and
jonathan
regularly
to
make
sure
that
food
was
getting
to
where
it
needed
to
go,
so
that
effort
was
phenomenal.
O
So
it
was
a
tremendous
lift,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
the
folks
of
the
bra
for
their
effort
on
that
front,
I
called
the
bra
because
we
still
have
some
unfinished
business,
so
we
need
to
address
the
enabling
act
of
1956,
section
chapter
665,
so
I'll
call
it
the
bra
instead
of
getting
into
a
long
winded
doing
business
as
the
bpda.
O
So
at
some
point,
if
you
want
to
remain
the
bpda,
if
you
guys
want
to
come
to
the
council,
we
can
get
a
home
rule
petition
turned
around
and
and
kind
of
tidy
up
that
that
front
there.
One
also
addressed
some
issues.
Obviously
my
council
colleagues,
particularly
the
newer
members,
don't
realize
how
bad
it
was
under
previous
administrations
and
previous
bras.
This
bra
and
the
director
golden
under
the
walsh
administration,
not
only
has
have
they
been
the
busiest
with
a
tremendous
amount
of
development
and
planning
going
on,
but
they've.
O
Also,
their
communication
with
this
body
with
the
council
has
improved
tremendously
and
again
folks
that
are
new
to
the
council,
wouldn't
realize
the
stock
difference
that
it
is
so
I
appreciate
that
effort.
Are
we
perfect
nope?
Can
we
continue
to
do
that?
O
So
on
that
front,
the
shout
out
to
teresa
pohemus,
who
does
the
great
work
obviously
advocating
for
the
bra
on
the
board
and
keeping
council,
is
abreast
of
making
sure
that
we're
accommodated
when
we're
offering
testimony
at
at
public
hearings.
If
we
could
touch
base
on
just
the
volume
over
the
last
several
years,
whether
it's
in
dollars
or
square
footage,
and
also
the
number
of
planning
efforts
that
are
going
on,
because
I
think
that
gets
lost
here.
While
the
pandemic
was
happening,
you
guys
continue
to
address
development
and
planning.
O
So
if
we
get
a
sheer
dollar
amount
as
to
the
amount
of
square
feet
and
or
the
amount
of
development
dollars
that
are
coming
in
the
role
that
that
will
play
in
keeping
our
city
on
track,
when
other
cities
will
be
struggling,
we
hopefully
because
of
our
natural
strengths,
our
colleges,
our
universities,
our
financial
services,
but
also
having
a
development
arm
that
continues
to
move
projects
forward
and
keeps
people
working
and
continues
to
build
housing.
If
you
can
put
that
into
context
as
briefly
as
possible,
I
would
appreciate
that,
and
also
kudos
to
the
team.
O
Marine
industrial
park
is
really
raceland.
Marine
industrial
park
is
really
starting
to
take
shape.
After
years
of
planning
and
working
with
the
local
elected
officials
in
the
major
stakeholders
down
there,
we
were
able
to
lift
up
some
of
the
uses
to
provide
a
diversity
of
services
and
businesses
there,
but
the
core,
and
the
crux
of
keeping
it
marine
and
industrial
freight
forwarding,
cold
storage,
seafood
processing,
trucks
servicing,
obviously,
the
container
ships
that
are
coming
in
as
well
as
our
cruise
port.
O
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
it's
great
to
see
down
there
and
soon
to
see
our
ship
repair
be
reactivated.
I
think
there's
like
a
crane
down
there.
That
looks
like
it
belongs
in
the
mchale's
navy,
but
I
know
that
help
is
on
the
way
congressman.
Lynch
has
done
a
huge
heavy
lift
on
that
to
secure
federal
funds
for
that,
but
and
also
moving
forward
to.
Let
you
folks
know
that
there's
a
new
committee
on
the
council
to
deal
with
the
covett
relief
funds.
O
I
will
be
chairing
on
behalf
of
my
colleagues
working
closely
with
our
president
and
chair
bark
and
other
committee
chairs
to
make
sure
that
those
resources
are
getting
to
where
they
needed
the
most.
So
I
would
implore
that
we
start
to
have
those
discussions
sooner
rather
than
later
to
find
out
where
we
could
use
those
funds.
So
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
O
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you're
doing,
but
if
you
can
kind
of
just
give
a
snapshot
for
my
colleagues
as
well
as
those
that
are
tuned
into
just
the
sheer
volume
of
of
permits
and
projects
that
you
guys
are
dealing
with,
as
well
as
the
planning
process.
O
I
think
that
will
give
a
huge
perspective,
because
I've
had
a
front
row
seat
for
a
while
here,
and
I
have
to
say
that
the
director
golden
this
bra
has
been
the
most
communicative
with
this
body
and
again,
probably
not
solace
to
new
members.
But
I
can't
even
begin
to
tell
you
what
it
used
to
be
like
under
the
wall
administration
that
changed,
and
we
obviously
appreciate
that
effort
and
that
partnership.
O
Clearly,
you
know
we
have
more
work
to
do
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
as
accessible
and
as
transparent
and
make
sure
that
that
process,
be
it
the
iag
process
which,
by
the
way,
counselors
make
recommendations
based
on
feedback
from
the
community,
as
well
as
community
leaders,
to
make
sure
that
we
have
folks
that
want
to
serve
and
want
to
attend
those
meetings
and
want
to
advocate
and
make
sure
they're
protecting
their
community
and
their
neighborhood.
O
So
it's,
the
onus
is,
I
think,
on
members
of
the
council
to
make
sure
that
they're
selecting
wisely
on
these
iag
projects
or
making
those
recommendations
to
the
bra
for
who
they
think
would
be
the
appropriate
person
in
that
neighborhood
from
that
community
to
serve
in
that
capacity.
So
that's,
in
a
nutshell,
a
couple
questions
in
more
of
an
opine,
but
I
appreciate
the
attention
to
detail
that
you
guys
are
providing.
You
know
our
planning
and
development
dom
in
the
city.
P
So
I
guess
I'll
start.
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
comments
and
questions
counselor.
I
think
this
is
my
first
time
speaking,
so
I
will
just
let
everybody
know
I'm
lauren
shurtleff,
I'm
the
bpda's
director
of
planning
I'll
start
with
the
planning
and
then
I'll
probably
turn
it
over
to
john
for
some
of
the
development
numbers.
P
But
I
will
just
kind
of
even
back
up
to
kind
of
echo
a
little
bit
of
what
you're
talking
about
counselor
and
that
in
the
last
eight
years,
we've
actually
expanded
the
number
of
planning
staff
it's
dedicated
to
planning,
as
well
from
just
over
around
30
to
just
over
50
right
now,
and
I
can
assure
you
each
year
I
am
asking
for
more
staff
to
continue
to
do
the
planning
work
that
we
all
find
really
critical
and
able
to
eventually
enable
the
build
out
of
the
further
build
out
of
the
city.
P
Currently,
we
have
about
a
dozen
kind
of
full-scale
planning
initiatives
that
are
actively
underway,
but
if
you
also
add
all
of
the
other
smaller
initiatives
and
then
you
add
the
different
planning
that
others
are
leading,
maybe
say
it's
btd,
leading
it
or
public
works,
but
that
our
staff
is
also
dedicated
to
it
gets
to
over
30..
I
have
a
really
you
know
long
list
of
things
to
kind
of
keep
track
of
and
check
in
with
staff
on
a
regular
basis.
P
Obviously,
covid
has
been
a
real
challenge
for
us,
but
I
think
it's
also
been
a
growth
opportunity
in
the
sense
of
actually
getting
input
on
all
of
those
plans.
P
So
we've
been
really
focused
on
that
and
just
again
kind
of
leaning
into
the
moment
and
seeing
more
participation
as
we
you
know,
move
through
about
all
of
our
plans.
I
mean
I
look
at
my.
I
always
have
a
map.
It's
really
helpful,
to
be
back
in
the
office
sometimes,
but
even
just
to
list
some
of
them.
We
have
planning's
boston.
We
have
plan
matapan
plan
new
market
plan
downtown.
You
mentioned
the
marine
park.
P
Well,
we're
actually
working
with
the
state
to
update
that
master
plan
right
now,
so
that
we
can
secure
the
future
that
you're
talking
about
for
the
park.
We
also
have
planned
charlestown.
I
don't
think
I
mentioned
that
one.
We
have
a
number
of
transportation
studies,
many
of
which
are
in
the
you
know,
south
boston
areas.
We
have
one
for
the
seaport,
the
strategic
transit
plan.
We
also
have
plans
health,
boston,
dot,
ask
transportation
plan
which
we're
getting
ready
to
release.
Just
last
month
we
finalized
the
awesome
brighton
mobility
study.
I
could
go
on.
I
Councilor
flaherty
thanks
for
the
kind
words
earlier
I
would
just
share
briefly
just
mindful
of
time
since
2014,
the
bpda
has
improved
approximately
86
million
square
feet
of
new
development
worth
more
than
43
billion
dollars.
This
includes
approximately
45
thousand
new
residential
units,
nine,
ninety
eight
hundred
of
which
are
income
restricted
and
then
more
than
eighty
thousand
construction
jobs.
That's
through
the
end
of
calendar,
twenty
twenty.
I
also
know
I
I
know
that
the
new
tax
revenue
on
out
of
that
is
significant.
I
just
don't.
I
J
A
Q
Q
What
it
is
I
thank
you
for
all
your
great
work,
and
I
I
you
know
the
big
issue
for
us
out
in
austin.
Brighton,
I
think,
is
that
the
sheer
scale
of
what's
happening
is
that
the
community
is
getting
exhausted.
It's
been
going
on
for
about
eight
ten
years
now,
and
people
are
really
struggling
to
get
their
head
around
all
the
different
pieces.
Moving
parts
of
the
of
all
the
development
that's
happening,
and
it
would
be
really
helpful.
Q
I
think,
back
to
our
previous
conversation
about
a
a
district-wide
master
plan
to
really
have
a
district-wide
perspective
and
and
because
you
can't
build.
Q
You
can't
build
a
couple
of
million
square
feet
of
development
on
in
in
north
austin
and
not
have
it
affect
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
It
has
a
ripple
effect
through
across
the
district,
because,
especially
because
of
transit
issues,
so
I'm
really
making
another
pitch,
and
I
will
keep
pitching
until
we
hopefully
get
somewhere
is
to
really
try
and
have
a
really
comprehensive
and
area-wide
plan.
Q
Acknowledging
that
we
will
focus
on
some
corridors,
but
that
we
need
to
have.
We
need
to
tie
it
all
together
with
an
area-wide
plan.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
bpda
for
taking
our
suggestion
of
having
a
an
executive
summary
at
the
front
of
a
project
pnf.
Q
Hopefully
that
will
improve
communications
and
to
decrease
the
level
of
frustration
of
our
community
members
who
want
to
get
their
head
around.
What
a
project
is
without
having
to
read
200
pages
of
pretty
dense
technical
information.
So,
apart
from
that,
I
just
look
forward
to
really
exploring
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
have
a
hybrid
model
for
for
iag
meetings
and
public
meetings
on
development.
Q
We
found
during
the
pandemic
that
many
many
more
people
are
have
been
able
to
access
the
meetings
because
of
the
internet
access,
and
so
I'm
thinking
a
hybrid
model
would
be
wonderful
to
explore
and
I
don't
know
what
the
technical
challenges
of
that
are,
but
it's
something
I
really
will
strongly
advocate
for.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
can,
I
counsel,
I
would
just
say
thanks
for
thanks
for
all
your
thanks
for
the
kind
words
on
the
executive
summary.
That
was
something
that
came
out
of
a
conversation
you
and
I
had
in
this
forum
last
year,
and
we
took
that
suggestion
to
heart
and
have
implemented
that
as
in
concert
with
our
language
access
plan.
So
not
only
does
every
article
80
large
project
now
have
a
an
accompanying
four
or
five
page
fact
sheet.
I
N
I
Just
a
tool
for
it's
not
just
a
tool
for
simplifying
what
can
be
complex
projects,
but
also
it's
a
tool
for
making
sure
we're
being
as
inclusive
and
possible
in
our
engagement
in
terms
of
the
hybrid
meeting
question
it's
something
we
are
just
starting
to
grapple
with,
and
I
think
one
thing
I
would
just
say
is
that
we
are
certainly
going
to
use
this
summer
and
I'll
have
to
have
lauren
time
on
this
after
me
is
use
this
summer
as
a
chance
to
kind
of
test
out
some
good
old-fashioned,
sidewalks
planning,
planning,
planning,
bike
rides
standing
outside
and
talking
about
a
project.
I
I
think
when
it
gets
towards,
hopefully
we're
all
a
lot
more
comfortable
being
around
people
and
the
public
health
circumstances
continue
to
to
to
to
improve
where
we
can
get
to
a
place
where
people
feel
comfortable
gathering
in
a
room
again,
I
think
the
goal
will
be
figuring
out.
How
do
we
create
hybrid
scenarios,
both
individually
and
collectively,
over
the
course
of
a
prog,
a
process
or
an
initiative
that
gives
people
a
wide
range
of
opportunities
to
safely
effectively
and
inclusively
engage?
I
I
would
imagine
we'll
be
coming
to
all
of
you
for
different
methodologies.
For
that
I
know
the
city
council
does
lots
of
engagement
as
well,
both
in
moments
like
this
and
out
in
your
districts
or
in
the
case
of
at
large
counselors
throughout
the
city,
and
so
I
think
we're
all
going
to
be
learning
together,
and
so
I
think
we
look
forward
to
engaging
with
each
of
you
on
best
practices
and
sharing
from
across
the
country
on
how
to
do
this.
P
Thanks
john,
I
would
just
add
to
that
and
reiterate
that
we
are
seeing
greater
participation
through
the
virtual
meeting
method.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
in
the
sense
that
you
don't
really
have
to.
I
always
say
this
you've
probably
heard
me
counselor
say
this
actually,
but
you
don't
have
to
go
down
to
you
know
the
local
school
cafeteria
from
six
to
eight
at
night
you
can
log
in
while
you're
cooking
your
your
dinner.
While
your
kids
are
there,
it
just
has
really
kind
of
broken
a
lot
of
barriers
to
access.
P
You
know
aware
of
the
fact
that
there
is
a
digital
divide,
so
I
think,
like
john
said
over
the
summer,
we're
really
going
to
kind
of
put
our
heads
together
and
try
and
figure
out
what
is
the
better
approach
as
we
move
forward
when
we
can
be
together,
but
you
know
we
also
recognize
that
this
digital
model
is
actually
very
useful
in
terms
of
planning.
Obviously
I
do
owe
you
a
follow-up
phone
call
from
our
conversation
just
yesterday,
and
you
know
continue
to
take
it
under
advisement.
P
Like
I've
said
repeatedly,
you
know
we,
we
totally
understand
the
kind
of
pressure
that
also
brighton
is
facing,
and
we've
identified
specific
corridors
where
we
think
there's
additional
planning
beyond
the
western
avenue
corridor
study,
which
I
didn't
mention
in
my
last
round.
I
guess
I
was
teaming
this
up
right,
but
you
know
completely
on
the
same
page
in
the
sense
of
we
want
to
have
a
plan
before
there
is
development,
but
also
recognizing
that
we
can't
always
so
again
continue
to
continue
continue.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
edwards.
A
R
I'm
so
sorry
I
didn't
mean
I
had
some
technical
difficulties,
so
I
can
you
hear
me?
R
Yes,
my
apologies,
so
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
some
of
budgeting
items
and
then
also
some
parts
of
my
district.
So,
as
you
know,
we
negotiated
a
great
deal.
I
think
in
getting
suffolk,
downs
done
and
part
of
that
deal
and
part
of
the
pda,
and
I
think
the
cooperation
agreement
is
400
000
to
be
committed
from
the
city
to
help
with
the
newly
to
be
formed,
trust
or
displacement
or
housing.
R
Trust
for
east
boston-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
commitment
is
so
real
and
that
it's
going
to
happen
number
edit,
because
I
didn't
see
what
page
it
is
on
in
the
budget.
But
maybe
you
can
just
confirm
to
me
on
that.
I
wanted
to
check
in
about
your
thoughts
about
increasing
linkage.
I
know
that
you
guys
were
part
of
working
with
the
prior
administration
and
helping
to
increase
it
already.
R
R
Because
idp
we
had
a
good
conversation
with
dnd
and
I
do
know
that
they're
interested
in
some
forms
of
different
measuring
sticks
and
measuring
applications
for
when
it
does
kick
in,
and
then
I
just
start
now
and
with
as
you
you
may
be
aware,
I
recently
filed
a
zoning
amendment
to
remove
the
zba
from
the
cannabis
discussion,
specifically
after
the
board
has
made
its
decision
that
that's
the
cannabis
for
the
newly
formed
cannabis
board.
R
I
think
it's
a
year
old
now
has
made
a
decision
to
grant
a
license
or
not
grant
a
license.
I
think
at
that
point
and
an
applicant
should
be
able
to
go
on
to
the
ccc
if
they
have
their
license.
Plus
hca-
and
I
didn't
know
if
they'd
be
pda,
had
an
opinion
about
that
or
would
be
stepping
in
to
provide
an
opinion
about
that.
So
those
are
my
initial
questions.
R
Oh
and
finally,
this
is
just
an
accounting
that
I'd
love
to
get,
I
think,
on
an
annual
basis
from
the
navy
yard
and
incomes
brought
in
from
the
navy
yards
either
the
resale
pro
part
of
the
navy
yard
or
any
income
in
general
on
bpda
land
in
district.
One.
I
I
We'll
there'll
be
three
answers
here,
I'll
just
quickly,
it'll
be
me,
then
michelle
on
linkage,
idp
and
then
devin
on
the
navy
yard.
So
just
quickly
the
answer
is
yes,
I
was
able
to
connect
with
budget
after
talking
with
your
staff
last
night.
Their
understanding
as
well
is
400
000
of
city
capital
in
the
budget.
I
think
it'll
be
in
d
d's
budget
in
support
of
rental
relief
for
east
boston
as
part
of
the
overall
suffolk
downs
approval.
I
So
they
were
still
working
on
that,
but
I
was
able
to
get
that
confirmed
this
morning.
R
B
You
with
regard
to
length
linkage
just
for
the
record
we
did
update
40,
update
linkage,
42
increase
in
february
and
update
staff
are
currently
working
to
update
linkage
again
for
july
1st,
based
on
a
consumer
price
index
formula.
I'm
happy
to
get
back
to
you
with
more
details.
Once
we
have
those.
R
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
get
another
increase,
we
don't
know
how
much,
but
it
will
be
happening
on
july,
1st.
E
And
on
the
navy
yard
counselor,
absolutely
yes,
we'd
be
happy
to
share
that
accounting
with
you.
I
think
the
thing
we
get
the
most
questions
about-
and
I'm
sure
you
get
them
too,
is
the
two
and
four
percent
transfer
fees
on
previously
sold
residential
condos
in
the
navy
yard,
on
average
just
to
get
the
high
level
narrative
on
average
annually.
The
income
from
that
is
about
half
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
terms
of
expenditure
in
the
navy
yard
are
it
is
significantly
greater
than
that?
E
We,
you
know,
spend
quite
a
bit
of
money
over
half
a
million
dollars
in
maintenance
and
then
beyond
that
there
are
large
capital
expenditures,
so
we're
spending
eight
million
dollars
to
tear
down
the
dilapidated
power
plant.
We
spent
two
million
dollars
this
year
on
the
navy
yard
sinkhole
project,
one
of
the
one
of
a
single
that
we
need
to
prepare.
The
michelle
referenced
earlier,
so
happy
happy
to
share
that.
E
I
also
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
the
two
and
four
percent
the
agency
has
committed
since
last
year
to
fund
varian
teams,
diversity,
equity,
inclusion,
work
as
a
dedicated
funding
source
for
for
that
work.
R
Thank
you
so
now
going
a
little
bit
into
affh
and
specifically
in
my
district,
so
thank
you
again
for
getting
that
done
together.
The
team
worked
to
make
that
make
history.
It's
been
effective.
As
of
the
ides
of
march
on
the
15th
of
march.
For
those
who
don't
follow
roman
history,
I
guess
either
way,
so
I
just
want
to
check
in
on
that.
So
I
know
that
there
is.
It
requires
the
viv,
the
new
committee,
I'll
just
call
the
new
committee,
the
interagency
committee,
to
review
public
comments.
R
However,
there's
no
comment
public
comment
process
outlined
besides,
what's
already
done
for
article
80.,
so
how
are
we
integrating
public
comments
on,
let's
say
once
the
historic
displacement
and
the
displacement
analysis,
dark
inclusion
and
displacement
analysis
reports
are
up
and
they
put
out
their
assessment
tool
where,
where
does
it
co?
Where
does
the
public
get
to
comment
and
what
space?
I
also
I'm
curious
about
the
personnel
support.
R
Do
you
need
more
staff?
I
know
michelle's
doing
an
amazing
job,
but
is
that
maybe
it
might
be
helpful
to
have
another
staffer
to
help
coordinate
research?
I
don't
know
the
the
community
and
housing
profile
map
website
is
really
good,
so
compliments.
Whoever
did
that,
however,
a
dynamic
displacement,
risk
analysis
and
mapping
is
lacking,
so
I'm
just
curious
when
that's
going
to
be
up
and
then
projects
next
to
vacant,
land,
water
or
other
undeveloped
under
under
or
under
developed
land.
R
I
think,
might
skew
some
of
the
results
of
your
afh
analysis.
But
how
are
you
compensating
for
when
that's
like
vacant
land
around
there
to
help
make
sure
that
there's
a
true
depiction
of
displacement
and
historic
exclusion?
So
that's
the
effh
kind
of
analysis,
just
picking
up
on
some
things.
R
As
you
know,
with
the
zba
reform
and
the
executive
order
from
the
prior
administration,
we
were
looking
to
have
a
zoning
amendment
to
lower
the
threshold
for
the
llc
disclosures
of
ownership
interests
at
the
zba,
and
that
was
committed
to
do
that.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
working
on
that
isd
said
you
guys
are
working
on
that.
So
would
be
great
to
know
if
you
are
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
done.
R
The
executive
order
was
assuring
that
things
would
be
done
by
august
of
this
year,
18
months
from
its
signature,
so
we're
again.
This
is
for
the
llc's
that
come
before
the
zba
right
now,
a
large
in
a
pda,
a
large
corporation
that
comes
before
you
has
to
disclose
its
ownership
interest.
As
you
know
right,
so
we
want
the
same
disclosure
at
the
llc
level
or
excuse
me
at
the
zba
level
for
certain
you
know
non
investment
properties
or
those
who
are
developing
around
in
our
communities.
So
I'm
wondering
how
that
is
going.
R
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there's
some
updates
on
suffolk
downs
and
the
hud
complaint
that
was
filed
that
was
resolved,
I'm
making
sure
that
where
the
compliance
is
still
going
on
for
inclusion
and,
let's
see
and
finally
sorry
making
sure
I
have
oh
of
your
personnel
and
your
plan
east
boston
in
plan
charlestown.
Thank
you
both
thank
you
for
both.
I
know
that
they're
both
working
very,
very
much
and
you
guys
are
getting
a
lot
done.
R
So
I
just
wanted
to
commend
you
for
that
say,
thank
you,
but
also
just
to
check
what
is
there?
A
specific
budget
or
line
item
for
the
community
engagement
in
either
plan.
B
I
could
take
the
affha
questions
just
with
regard
to
the
personnel
we're
really
using
this
time
to
take
a
look
as
we
move
through
the
final.
You
know
the
stages
of
implementation,
and
once
we
get
a
full
roster
of
projects
that
are
various
stages
in
the
affh
review
process,
to
see
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
staffing
needs
and
as
as
you
noted,
I'm
really
primarily
responsible
for
the
implementation.
B
So
I
am
very
keenly
aware
of
when
I'm
being
stressed
too
thin
with
regard
to
the
workflow
that
might
be
coming
my
way,
but
as
of
yet
since
we
only
have
really
four
projects
filing
letters
of
intent
that
are
required
to
comply
with
afh
and
then
another
handful
that
we're
working
with
for
voluntary
compliance
we've
yet
to
receive
the
necessary
documentation
to
be
reviewed
and
assessed,
which
leads
into
kind
of
the
answers
to
your
next
questions
is
that
as
we're
rolling
out
implementation,
I
think
we're
engaged
in
a
lot
of
learning
processes
about
how
to
best
incorporate
public
comment
and
review
periods
into
the
process,
and
I
think,
without
real
world
examples
of
how
that
works.
B
I
can't
you
can't
really
predict
how
that's
going
to
work
aside
from
taking
in
all
the
public
comments
and
making
sure
that
the
whole
package
of
materials
that
are
submitted
via
the
article
80
process,
including
public
comments,
the
afh
assessment
form
and
the
housing
and
the
housing
and
household
composition.
Community
profile
report
are
reviewed
thoroughly
by
the
boston,
interagency,
fair
housing
development
committee
and
just
making
sure
that
they
have
the
time
and
resources
they
need
to.
Look
at
that
information
and
then
figure
out.
B
Is
there
a
better
way
to
get
the
information
they
need
to
make
an
assessment
and
determination?
And
then
I
think
you
had
a
question
about
the
report
itself.
With
regard
to
open
land,
we've
been
trying
to
figure
that
out
as
well.
Since
the
the
report
looks
at
a
quarter
mile
radius
and
that
goes
different
lengths
of
of
depth
depending
on
where
you're
developing,
so
we're
really
working
with
you
know
these
large
pdas
that
are
in
large
projects
that
are
coming
in
that
may
be
voluntarily
complying
with
afh.
B
At
this
point,
because
we
haven't
received
any
of
that-
need
to
comply
to
look
at
kind
of
the
perimeter
of
the
project
and
to
take
a
look
at
what
what
works
best
with
regard
to
getting
the
best
information
about
the
community,
just
to
make
sure
that
no
one's
kind
of
putting
that
red
dot.
When
you
look
at
the
profile
report
like
in
the
dead
center
of
an
uninhabited
place,
you
know
we're
really
looking
at
making
sure
that
the
report
is
pulling
from
from
data
that
that
is
useful
to
look
at
the
community.
B
Unless
it's
truly,
you
know
an
empty
area
to
look
at,
but
I
think
just
being
flexible
with
regard
to
taking
a
look
at
the
report
and
really
utilizing
what
the
report
has
to
say.
Even
if
that
means
putting
that
pin
that
generates
the
report
in
several
different
places,
the
project
site,
but
more
to
come
as
we
move
through
the
implementation
phases.
B
So,
with
regard
to
the
public
comment,
it's
just
making
sure
that
the
the
information
is
available
on
the
bbga
website
as
part
of
the
pnf
forum,
public
comment
via
community
meetings
and
the
the
regular
public
comment
structure
that
already
exists
within
article
80
and
trying
to
integrate
that
into
the
affh
process.
R
B
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
edwards
I'll,
ask
some
questions
now
and
then
we'll
go
back
up
to
the
top.
So
if
there
are
counselors.
R
In
the
second
round
before
you
continue
I'll
I'll,
just
follow
up
them
with
the
other
questions
that
I
asked
in
this
beyond
the
affha,
because
there
were
several
in
district
questions.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
fine,
but
I
did
ask
about
in
my
district
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
just
would
prefer
that
I
write
to
them
directly
or.
R
For
the
district
on
the
record,
I
example
the
zba
reforms
and
implementation
and
then
also
my
district
questions
about
suffolk
downs
and
also
the
plan
east,
boston
and
charlestown,
and
the
budget
for
community
engagement.
A
Well,
ask
the
group
to
do
is
just
if
any
of
those
questions
we
did
this
yesterday
when
we
had
some
that
ran
way
over.
If
you
want
to
put
any
answers,
bpda
team,
on
the
record
when
we
come
back
around
even
if
councilor
edwards
isn't
here
and
then
anything
else
will
get
followed
up
in
written
form,
that'd
be
great.
I
Counselor,
chester,
bach
and
counselors,
maybe
you
saw
the
suffolk
downs
thing.
I
would
just
say
that
why
don't
we
schedule
a
follow-up
meeting
between
our
team
and
your
office?
Just
to
kind
of
I
think
we've
got
a
bunch
of
work
on
that
on
the
iag
going
forward.
I
did
happen
to
talk
to
the
development
team
last
night.
I
They
are
working
really
diligently
on
both
the
tapa
agreement
and
the
parks
mou,
and
so
those
are
both
in
process
with
those
respective
public
agencies,
and
so
I
think
we
could
hopefully
have
an
update
on
all
three
of
those
items,
certainly
well
after
this
hearing,
but
we
can
do
that
at
a
a
staff
level
between
you
and
I.
A
Understand
requests
for
time.
No
worries
just
want
to
make
sure
yeah
that
we
keep
we
get
through
everybody.
Thank
you,
counselor
edwards.
I
I
guess
my
questions
and
I'll
make
keep
myself
honest
here.
First,
one
is
just
a
little
bit
of
a
check
in
on
a
few
zoning
fronts,
so
the
coastal
flood
resiliency
zoning
overlay
districts
and
the
zero
net
carbon
building
zoning
initiative
where
things
are
on
this.
A
P
That's
totally
fine,
so
for
the
zero
net
carbon
zoning,
as
well
as
the
article
37
update
to
lower
the
threshold.
That
process
is
underway
and
when
I
say
underway,
I
know
that
there
was
a
briefing
for
the
city
council
back
in
the
fall
and
we've
had
22
public
meetings
since
then.
So
that's
moving
well
along.
P
The
idea
would
be
that
we
would
wrap
the
process
up
this
fall
and
bring
it
to
our
board,
and
then
the
zoning
commission,
hopefully
sometime
over
the
winter,
which
is
really
exciting
because
we're
doing
really
great
work
there
in
terms
of
the
coastal
flood
resilience
overlay.
We
I
think
we've
got
the
guidelines
from
september
of
2019,
so
we've
got
those
in
place.
Those
are
board
approved.
We've
taken
that
and
put
it
into
zoning
language
which
we
released
in
december
of
2020.
P
We've
had
a
number
of
public
meetings
to
share
the
zoning
text
and
we
also
had
a
public
comment
period
that
wrapped
up
a
couple
months
ago.
Right
now,
our
team
is
revising
making
revisions
based
on
the
public
comments,
I'm
hoping
to
bring
that
to
our
board
and
onward
to
the
zoning
commission,
probably
in
the
next
few
months.
P
Another
you
know
really
exciting,
leading
edge
kind
of
process
where
you
know
trying
to
figure
out
how
do
we
advance
building
adaptation
and
protection
so
that
we
can
confront
the
anticipated
future
flood
sea
level
rise,
40
inches
by
2070,
so
is
that
helpful,
yeah.
A
So
wait
but
sorry
just
just
so.
I
have
clear
time
points
in
my
head,
the
point
at
which
we
think
we
I
know,
there's
been
tremendous
work
on
the
on
the
carbon
building
initiative,
but
just
the
point
at
which
we
think
we
move
to
the
next
stage
is
when.
P
So
the
when
we
wrap
it
up
and
actually
bring
it
into
the
zoning
should
be
within
the
next
calendar
year.
Okay,
probably
sooner.
P
A
Okay,
no
that's
great,
that's
great,
to
hear
obviously
we're
just
eager
to.
I
think
we
all
know
that
sometimes
things
like
linger
in
the
guideline
discussion
space
for
a
little
bit
longer
than
we
wish
and
yeah.
P
A
And
then
I
know
that
there's
some
working
group
underway
it
came
up
at
our
landmarks
hearing
on
the
article
85
topic
and
I
think
folks
know
I
care
quite
a
lot
about
that
and
just
about
sort
of
re-envisioning
how
we
integrate
historic
preservation
into
our
conversations
earlier
in
ways
that
are
more
productive
for
all
concerned.
A
Where
are
we
with
that?
What's
the
point
at
which
that
can
become
a
public
conversation.
P
So
that
one
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
on,
I
know
that
you
know
I
have
team
members
that
are
working
on
it.
I
just
haven't
had
a
chance
to
actually
pop
into
one
of
the
conversations
yet
so
I'm
not
really
sure
in
terms
of
the
timeline
of
when
we
can
bring
it
public,
but
it
remains
very
high
on
our
deputy
director
for
regulatory
planning
and
zoning
brian
glascox.
What
are
priorities
so.
A
Great
okay,
well,
I
yeah
would.
C
P
A
I
would
love
to
leap
in
with
you
guys
on
that,
it's
something
again
that
I
I'm
quite
focused
on
and
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
the
conversations
are
happening.
That's
great
and
I'll
leave
to
one
side.
You
know
counselor
o'malley
and
I
have
filed
a
zoning
amendment
to
remove
parking
minimums
for
all
affordable
housing
developments,
and
that
is
something
that
I'm
interested
in
discussing
with
the
bpda,
and
I
hope
the
bpda
will
be
supportive
of.
I
think.
A
Obviously,
we've
recently
seen
the
parking
minimum
to
be
used
as
a
lever
to
block
several
really
important,
affordable
housing
developments,
but
it's
also,
notably
in
jp,
while
also
one
in
dorchester,
but
I
think
that
more
broadly,
it's
like
we're.
You
know,
as
I
said
to
my
council
colleagues,
were
we've
got
a
major.
A
How
do
we
get
there
from
here
problem
on
both
affordable
housing
and
climate
resiliency,
and
this
is
a
small
step,
but
if
we
can't
take
this
step
and
build
transit,
oriented
all
affordable
housing
without
getting
hung
up
on
parking
minimums,
then
we're
definitely
not
getting
there
from
here
on
either
of
those
crises.
So
but
I
having
having
said
that,
I
will,
I
know
we're
going
to
be
having
a
hearing
on
that
in
the
pretty
near
future.
A
So
all
and-
and
I
know
brian
isn't
with
us
today,
but
just
would
would
love
the
agency's.
You
know
attention
and
support
on
that
front.
A
And
and
thank
you
for
the
update
on
the
afh,
I
had
sent
over
questions
about
that
and
obviously
have
appreciated
working
closely
with
the
team
throughout
the
process
and
and
thanks
michelle
for
all
your
work
and
and
so
on.
All
unlock
the
folks
who
are
not
on
this
call,
but
have
really
done
a
lot
to
get
us
there,
and
I
and
I
and
I
do
love
using
the
tool
online
for
the
quick
data
analysis.
A
But
obviously
you
know,
I
think
it'll
continue
to
be
something
that
kepler
edwards
and
I
and
the
whole
council
are
really
interested
in
and
there
will
be
bumps
along
the
way
and
implementation
and
we're
all
kind
of
partners
in
in
that
endeavor.
But
it's
great
barry
to
have
you
on
board
as
well
and
kind
of
thinking
about
thinking
about
that
angle.
For
the
whole
agency,
I
guess
a
broader
question
I
have,
and
I
think
it's
probably
a
devon
question.
A
A
When
I
have
a
chance
to
have
the
hearing,
it's
been
all
budget
hearings
all
the
time,
but
since
I
have
you,
I'm
pretty
interested
in
how
we
use
the
bpda's
renewal
tools
for
the
public,
good
and
think
about
you
know
the
ppda
can
acquire
land
and
famously
obviously,
did
the
transaction
that
set
us
up
with
the
deadly
square
neighborhood
initiative
and,
as
we
think
about
like,
as
we
think,
about
land
trusts,
as
we
think
about
the
possibility
for
like
social
housing
and
other
things
that
are
like
economic
economic
operations,
but
would
actually
be
for
the
public
good.
A
The
the
city
as
an
entity
is
less
able
to
acquire
own
and
deal
in
such
things
than
the
planning
and
development
agency
is
because
of
the
statute
that
that
michael
mentioned
before,
and
I'm
really
interested
in
us
being
more
robust
on
that
front
in
support
of
kind
of
core
public
goods,
and
I
would
love
to
hear
devin
a
little
bit
about
how
what
things
you
guys
are
doing,
that
sort
of
feel
like
stretching
the
tools
in
that
direction.
Already
what
innovations
we've
had
in
terms
of
you
know,
there's
some.
A
You
know
there's
some
famous
long-term
ground
leases
that
we're
pretty
frustrated
by.
I
think
ever.
I
think
it's
public
knowledge
that
the
faneuil
hall,
one
is
one
of
them,
but
I
just
you
know
thinking
about
how
we're
shifting
to
using
those
tools,
on
behalf
of
the
public
to
sort
of
creative
framing
of
ground
leases
and
other
things
in
the
public
interest.
We'd
love
to
just
hear
a
little
bit
about
where
the
agency
is
on
that.
E
Yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question.
Counselor,
that's
great
happy
to
start,
and
that's
there's
a
there's
a
lot
to
that.
We
can
unpack
and
further
sessions
or
go
deeper
here.
This
time
there
I
think,
maybe
one
place
to
start
is
that
the
bpa
is
unique
in
that
both
we
are
both
the
regulatory
planning
and
development
agency
for
the
city,
but
we're
also
a
major
landholder,
and
that
means
that,
with
the
we
can
actually
pilot
things
on
the
fact
that
we
own
land
news.
E
We
can
pilot
things
on
our
real
estate
and
do
things
that
are
maybe
what
we
want
to
see
the
private
real
estate
market
do
in
the
future,
or
we
want
to
sort
of
lead
the
way
and
lead
by
example.
I
think
a
big
part
of
that,
obviously,
is
our
commitment
to
using
our
land
for
our
affordable
housing
creation.
I
would
point
to
nubian
square
and
everything
we're
doing
there
to
underplan
nubian
square,
let
a
but
a
planning
process.
E
That's
probably
the
community
and
he
said
very
loudly
and
clearly
to
us.
We
want
a
third
of
all
new
housing
units
created
to
be
deeply
affordable.
A
third
to
be
income
restricted
that
there
to
be
market,
and
we
are
because
we
own
so
much
land
we're
able
to
go
ahead
and
implement
that
in
a
way
that
it
isn't
possible
to
do
on
private
land
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
tools
of
urban
nolan
and
powers
of
the
agency.
E
I
think
where,
where
we
can
do
things
that
that
aren't
that
the
city
itself,
under
its
missile
powers
cannot
do
the
city
has
to
acquire
land
for
municipal
purposes.
Only
and
a
recent
example
of
where
we've,
where
we've
participated
in
the
real
estate
market,
as
as
a
economic
community
development
agency
is
in
walter
street
in
roslindale,
where
there
was
a
piece
of
land
that
the
parks
department
really
wanted
to
acquire
for
conservation
purposes.
E
This
was
adjacent
to
a
wetland
and
they
have
the
power
to
do
that,
and
there's
also
a
couple
of
housing
units
next
door
that
would
have,
if
the,
if
the
parks
department
acquired
that
they
would
have
had
to
tear
them
down,
or
they
could
not
maintain
that
as
they
didn't
have
the
power
to
acquire
land
for
affordable
housing.
That's
just
not
something
the
city
can
do
so.
We
stepped
in
worked
really
closely
with
dnd
in
the
parks
department
and
directly
negotiated
over
the
course
of
about
60
days.
E
You've
purchased
from
the
the
private
actor
that
was
controlling
both
properties
brought
that
to
a
close,
and
I
think
it
just
came
before
you
recently
for
a
transfer
that
conservation,
commission
and
but
we
have
an
rfp
that
just
came
out.
We
actually
just
came
back
now.
There
are
two
different
entities
and
interested
in
building
affordable
housing
on
that
site
as
well.
So
and
it's
a
unique
example,
but
it's
something
where
the
bpda
was
able
to
step
in
and
do
something.
E
That's
very
much
in
the
public
interest
that
the
city
couldn't
do
under
its
regular
powers
and
authority,
and
we're
very
interested
in
looking
for
more
opportunities
to
do
things
like
that
as
they
arise.
A
A
When
it's
like
a
one-off,
then
if
it's
something
that
we
you
know
as
we
think
about
the
parcel
priority
process
and
the
park
side,
I'm
sure
that
this
kind
of
thing
is
going
to
come
up
more,
where
it's
not
as
neat
and
tidy
as
a
parcel.
That's
only
going
to
be
for
urban
wilds,
it's
a
parcel
with
urban
wilds
and
something
else
you
know
or
whatever
so
yeah.
E
Completely
great-
and
I
think
we
just
want
to
be
mindful
that
we're
involved
in
community
processing
any
action
we
take.
I
think
we
want
to
reflect
on
our
history
and
some
of
the
the
downsides
of
urban
renewal
and
something
less
socially
just
outcomes,
but
at
the
same
time
look
forward
to
how
we
can
how
we
can
use
these
tools
in
the
public
interest
going
forward
and
would
love
to
have
a
more
robust
conversation
around.
That.
A
Sorry,
that's
the
acquisition
opportunity
program
for
folks,
not
in
the
acronym
soup,
which
is
basically
like
you
know
the
places
where
we
might
be
losing
some
housing
that's
affordable
right
now
it
might
be
at
risk
of
being
converted
and
instead
we
want
to
kind
of
stabilize
it
and
there
might
be
a
city
acquisition
involved
there
and
it's
it's
I
mean
most
of
what
dnd
does
there
is
to
try
to
supply
funding
and
help
somebody
else
acquire.
A
But
there
are
times
when
that
kind
of
a
process
is
just
going
to
move
too
slowly
to
achieve
what
we're
trying
to
achieve,
and
so
thinking
about
how
we,
how
we,
especially
if
especially
if
we
end
up
using
federal
funds
to
robustly,
grow
the
aop
program,
which
I
think
we
should
then
thinking
about
how
to
use
the
bpda's
mechanisms
to
effectively
execute
on
that,
so
that
we're
not
especially
in
the
crazy
real
estate
market
right
now,
so
that
we
don't
lose
opportunity.
It
seems
really
important
to
me.
E
E
Leases
are
our
business
model
too.
We
have
some
property
that
we
operate
and
and
for
the
most
part,
that's
operating
with
very
community
development-centric
vision.
A
large
vast
majority
of
our
tenants
are
boston-based
businesses,
huge
minority
business
participation.
So
if
we
own
something,
we
can
take
that
lens
to
operating
property
and
then,
as
renegotiating
ground
leases,
I
mean
we
have.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think,
that's
great.
I
think
I
think
setting
up
our
ground
leases
both
so
that
the
uses
on
them
are
serving
the
public
good
and
then
to
the
extent
that
they're
generating
revenue,
the
public's.
Getting
a
share
of
that.
I
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
the
fact
that
we
get
our
two
percents
and
four
percents
when
people
resell
former
vpda
properties,
because,
frankly,
it's
just
a
version
of
the
two
percent
transfer
tax
that
counselor
edwards
and
now
mayor,
janie
and
others
push
through
the
council
and
that
I'm
very
supportive
of
I
mean
it's.
A
You
know
at
a
localized
level,
it's
kind
of
saying:
hey.
When
values
are
going
up,
there
needs
to
be
some
public,
some
public
give
back
that
helps
us.
You
know
continue
to
do
the
things
that,
frankly,
we
do
on
the
public
side
to
create
value
for
all
these
private
actors.
A
So
I'm
very
supportive
of
those
types
of
models
before
I
have
a
couple
more
budget
questions,
but
I
want
to
see
counselor
mejia.
Did
you
have
second
round
questions
that
you
wanted
to
ask?
A
The
quality
of
city
hall
internet
today
I
feel
like
it's
like
we're
getting
the
ship
into
port
on
the
department
hearings
just
in
time
here,
just
as
the
boards
start
falling
off
all
right.
Well,
I
okay,
I
think
she's
all
set
she
says
so
I'll.
Just
before
I
ask
a
few
more
questions.
Did
anybody
have
a
question
and
answer
ready
to
counselor
edwards
question
on
the
vba
front.
P
So
I
can
definitely
speak
to
both
plans,
boston
and
plan
charlestown.
The
answer
in
terms
of
do
we
have
a
line
item
in
the
budget
for
community
engagement.
The
answer
is
no.
We
do
not.
We
are
now
you
know
as
we
have
currently.
I
think
five
community
engagement
managers
we're
looking
to
expand
that
team,
so
we're
doing
all
of
that
work
in-house
now.
That
being
said,
we're
always
looking,
obviously
to
improve
our
engagement
increase
our
engagement,
but
the
answer
is
there
is
no
specific
budget
item
in
those.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
the
llc
front
will
will
circle
back
on
okay,
and
I
did
want
to
also
note
on
the
lauren.
I
did
appreciate
the
the
sort
of
maps
and
other
appendix
slides
that
you
sent
over
on
the
on
the
zero
net
carbon
building
zoning
and
the
coastal
flood
zone.
Resiliency
zoning
overlay
we'll
make
sure
those
those
get
posted
as
well.
A
G
G
I
do
think
that
we
consider
that
direct
operating
funds
that
you
know
should
be
kind
of
like
the
first
first
dollars
that
we
spend
so
to
speak,
but
we
have
a
pretty
diverse
funding
stream,
and
so
I
think
you
know
devon
can
speak
to
this
as
well
as
our
tenants
are
doing
their
own
return
to
work
plans.
You
know
we
understand
the
impact
of
autonomous
vehicles
and
so
we're
very
curious
about
the
future
of
parking,
and
you
know,
but
we
certainly
it's
not
our
only
funding
stream.
E
One
thing
I
would
add
is
we
have,
I
think,
five
different
revenue
generating
parking
lots,
but
the
big
one,
the
where
the
majority
of
the
parking
funds
come,
has
been
the
built
parking
garage
in
the
marine
park.
Everything
else
is
open,
open
lots,
so
the
open
lot
spaces
may
over
time,
be
better
utilized.
As
other
things,
the
garage
is
actually,
I
think,
from
a
public
policy
perspective
beyond
being
a
revenue.
Generator
is
also
a
it's
pretty
solid
foundational
planning
and
credit
to
the
generations
of
marine
park
planners
that
came
before
us.
E
That
said,
hey
a
centralized
parking
model
is
probably
better
for
the
for
this.
This
district
and
allows
the
bpda
to
control
both
parking
demand
and
accessibility
over
the
long
term
and
the
number
of
parking
spaces
in
south
boston
is
capped
by
the
by
the
by
the
epa
mandated
parking
freeze.
So
I
I
think,
they're
as
a
planning
agency.
We
don't
want
to
be
dependent
on
parking
revenue,
but
but
then
you
know
well.
E
A
But
I
I
went
to
an
initial
meeting
as
a
as
a
mere
community
member
in
like
2015
on
the
lot
that
borders
bay,
village
in
chinatown
and
at
the
time
there
was
a
there,
was
a
bpda
person
in
the
room
who
was
very
clear
on
the
fact
that,
like
no
matter
what
we
did,
it
was
like.
Oh
this
property.
It
has
this
easement
where
you
have
to
be
able
to
cross
through
it
and
we're
also.
You
know,
obviously
we're
talking
about
the
library
at
the
time
we
were
talking
about
housing
and
then.
A
Has
to
generate
the
same
amount
of
parking
revenue
as
it
does
for
us
now,
and
that
was-
and
I
think
we
talked
about
this
before,
because
I
remember
you
saying.
Oh
the
agency
would
not
say
that
today,
that's
not
where
we
are,
but
just
as
somebody
who
is
constantly
trying
to
move
us
towards
better
uses
in
downtown
neighborhoods.
Just
that
degree
of
dependency
on
parking
still
worries
me
a
bit
and
especially
and
you've
made
the
right
distinction
right.
E
Yeah
and
if
I
can,
the
290
trim
on
straight
example,
the
I
think
what's
important
for
us
to
articulate
is
that
we
are
willing,
able
and
frequently
do
sell
property
below
market
rate
to
support
community
development.
But
we
are
emphatically
against
giving
away
property
to
private
developers
to
enhance
their
bottom
line,
and
we
think
that
the
the
all
that
the
real
estate
value
in
the
in
the
bpd's
property
holdings
needs
to
accrue
to
the
public
interest.
E
A
Great,
and
can
you
speak
to
me
a
little
bit
about
on
the
bpda
capital?
What
what
capital
like
is
it?
Is
it
on
this
graph
that
you
have
where
you
say,
public
works,
construction
that
11.2
percent
is
that
on
our
is
that
on
our
city
of
boston
books?
Is
that
what
public
works
construction
means
no.
E
Exactly
we
own
and
operate
the
roadways
in
the
marine
park
and
therefore
operate
as
a
public
works
department
in
that
area,
doing
public
works
type
construction,
roadway
improvements
got
it.
A
Okay,
but
if
I'm
at
sorry
I'm
just
looking
at
it.
G
Yes,
so
on
our
slide
here,
the
bpda
real
estate
capital
needs.
We've
got
this
categorized
by
procurement
law.
We
are
trying
to
approach
our
projects.
G
You
know
with
that
in
mind
and
try
to
organize
and
group
in
that
way,
and
so
that's
just
our
our
way
of
referring
to
road
improvements,
and
so
if
we
were
to
go
through
our
portfolio,
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
investment
that
we
would
need
to
get
the
parks
up
to
ada
code
and
it
includes
street
lights
and
all
of
those
types
of
projects
and,
as
we
start
to
move
into
sinkholes
and
peer
repairs,
it's
it's
less
of
a
vertical
construction
and
more
horizontal
construction.
G
And
so
as
we
you
know,
if
you
were
to
look
at
a
long-term
glimpse
at
our
portfolio
we
for
about
four
or
five
years,
we
were
very
focused
on
china
trade
and
did
an
awful
lot
of
149
construction
and
now
you're.
We
are
experiencing
a
lot
more
public
work,
style
projects,
and
so
that's
just
that's
our
way
of
trying
to
reflect
that.
G
So
we
did
not
receive
any
new
funding,
they
are
continuing
to
fund
projects
previously
approved.
We
had
submitted
a
request
not
funded
at
this
time,
and
you
know
we're
hopeful
that
in
the
next
few
cycles
you
know
we
can
keep
moving,
we're
very
grateful
for
the
projects
that
we
have,
particularly
our
northern
ave
investments,
and
so
we're
excited
to
get
those
procured
and
moving
as
well.
A
Yeah,
and
how
do
you
think
I
mean
with
my,
I
have
to
confess
that
with
my
ways
and
means
hat
on,
I'm
like
somewhat
glad
that
there's
no
new
authorization
only
because
I
sort
of
think
I
sort
of
think
it's
like
you
know,
I
mean
there
are
many
respects
in
which,
in
which
the
agency,
I
think,
is
glad
to
be
every
time
on
its
own
bottom
and
it
seems
to
me
like,
but
I've
never
been
clear
on
the
the
basis
on
which
some
projects
came
across
onto
the
city,
capital
budget,
and
I
don't
know
if
devon.
E
I
think
probably
the
best
example
of
what
I
would
I
think
we
would
promote
as
a
very
appropriate
city
funded
project.
Are
these
street
improvements,
because
one
of
our
objectives
is
honestly
did
exit
the
business
of
running
a
small
public
works
department
and
can't
and
transfer
those
streets
to
the
city,
but
the
city's
not
going
to
will
not
accept
those
streets
as
public
rights
of
way
until
they
meet
certain
standards.
So
we
are
we're
asking
for.
E
Yeah
and
we
articulate
that,
as
in
any
any
meetings
with
any
developers
or
other
entities
in
the
marine
park,
we
are
following
the
public
improvement
commission's
guidelines
for
streets
and
right-of-ways
and
having
them
run,
run
any
ideas
or
changes
by
the
pick.
In
order
to
facilitate
that
change
in
the
future.
A
H
A
That
but,
okay
and
and
your
budget
formally
introduced
to
the
board
when.
A
Okay-
and
I
guess
I
would
ask
I
understand
that
the
timing
is
always-
it
seems
to
always
be
awkward
in
this
way,
but
I
would
be
grateful
if
you
guys
would
sort
of
send
over
to
us.
I
know
that
I
could
go,
find
it
and
download
it,
but
if
you
would
send
over
sort
of
formally
to
the
committee
the
the
things
that
you
file
once
they're
filed
with
the
board,
so
that
we've
got
the
fy.
A
Point
of
information
thing,
and
is
there
anything
michelle
that
you
can
say
to
kind
of
like
where
that's
going
in
terms
of
major
like
like
anything
kind
of
significant
about
how
it's
going
to
be
different
in
the
coming
year
than
it
was
in
the
prior.
G
All
right,
so
you
know
we
have
spent
several
years,
focusing
from
a
finance
perspective
on
our
internal
operations,
preparing
for
the
disparity
study,
building
out
our
reporting
structure
in
a
way
that
will
allow
us
to
better
reflect
where
the
dollars
are
going.
G
We
run
into
a
very
unique
dynamic
when
we
do
have
to
operate
as
the
bra
and
the
edic
from
a
legal
entity's
point
of
view,
and
so
when
we
are
actually
going
out
and
initiating
contracts
and
engaging
in
the
procurement
space
there's
just
we
have
a
lot
of
internal
governance
and
a
lot
of
technical
processes
that
we
needed
to
flush
out,
simplify
document
and
and
get
our
house
in
order
in
that
way.
G
So
we're
providing
reports
to
department
heads
at
a
greater
level
of
detail
than
we've
ever
been
able
to
before,
and
so
I
think,
where
we
are
trying
to
go,
is
to
make
sure,
like
you
said
that
the
revenue
streams
that
we
have,
we
can
very
clearly
tie
them
to
the
programs
and
activities
that
we're
supporting
and
so
going
forward.
I
think
we
are
trying
to
get
clearer
at
when
a
construction
project
is
ready
to
go.
I
think
we
sometimes
hope
that
things
happen
a
little
faster
than
they
really
do.
G
So
that's
where
we're
going,
I
think,
is
trying
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
look
into
the
future
better
we're
going
to
try
to
put
together
a
buying
plan
so
that
our
community
engagement
staff
can
go
out
and
say,
hey?
Well,
here's
this
450
million
dollars
and
here
are
the
actual
projects
that
it
means.
If
you
want
to
do
design,
here's
the
list
of
projects,
let's
let's
go
get
you
certified.
G
G
We
are
you
know,
looking
at
outside
support
and
when
we
do
things
in-house
just
to
make
sure
you
know,
like
lauren,
said
that
if,
if
there's
something
as
important
as
community
engagement,
that
you
know
we're
building
out
the
staff
to
do
that,
internally,
we're
supporting
barry
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
him
the
resources
that
he
needs.
So
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
growth
in
that
area
and
I
think
we're
also
hopeful
you
know
katie.
G
Maybe
you
could
jump
in
and
give
owd
a
quick
plug
here,
but
you
know
we're
really
hopeful
that
you
know
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done
here
is
going
to
put
owd
in
a
better
position
to
leverage
all
of
their
grants
and
and
make
sure
that
any
additional
funding
that
the
organization
might
need
that
they
get
supported
first
before
we
do
any
of
our
other
initiatives,
so
we're
hoping
that
the
budget
can
really
be
a
management
tool
for
us
to
communicate
better,
and
so
that's
part
of
why
we
come
to
come
to
you
here.
G
A
D
No,
I
mean
thanks,
I
think
we're
talking
a
lot
locally
about
the
sort
of
distribution
of
job
training
programs
across
the
city,
and
it's
really
interesting.
D
I
feel,
like
I've
learned
a
lot
in
the
last
couple
of
hours
and
listening
in
so
it's
been
great
to
be
a
fly
on
the
wall,
for
that
we
work
very
closely
with
all
of
our
funded
partners
and
with
other
sort
of
workforce
vendors
in
the
city
to
understand
the
dynamics
of
what's
happening
and
I'll
say
that
the
pivot
to
remote
training,
for
so
many
of
our
providers
has
been
really
fascinating.
Just
to
see
like
what
programs
are
taking
away
from
that.
D
So
you
know
definitely
we're
at
like
a
very
fruitful
moment
for
workforce
development.
There's
a
lot
of
need
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
rethinking
the
way
that
they've
done
things
for
a
long
time.
So
both
of
those
are
really
exciting.
Conversations
to
follow
and
just
to
braid,
together
with
the
understanding
of
where
development
is
happening
across
the
city.
A
And,
and
can
you
speak
a
little
bit
katie
to
the
the
office
of
workforce
development?
Now
your
your
formal
budget
comes
entirely
through
edic.
Is
that
right.
D
Yes,
that's
correct.
Yes,
I
think
that,
as
michelle
pointed
out
in
her
opening
remarks,
the
linkage
amounts
are
not
covered
in
that.
So
I
think,
what's
not
included
is
the
we
in
the
last
fiscal
year
obligated
just
over
five
million
dollars
in
neighborhood
jobs,
trust
linkage
funds,
so
that
would
not
be
included,
but
other
than
that?
Yes,.
D
That
is
an
I
could
pull
that
up.
We
do
have
we
work
with
treasury
to
manage
those
funds,
and
so
it
does
fluctuate
a
little
bit
from
quarter
to
quarter
right
now.
Our
uncommitted
funds
balance
as
of
february,
was
about
3.5
million.
J
D
Not
an
unexpected
amount
for
this
time
of
year,
since
we
will
be
going
into
our
procurement
cycle
for
neighborhood
jobs,
trust
grantees
and
releasing
requests
for
proposals
this
summer
so
expect
that
figure
to
go
down.
But
that's
what
we
have
as
of
as
of
february.
So.
A
Got
it
and
how?
How
is
owd
involved,
I
mean
sort
of
like
I
know
that
you
are
involved,
but
in
the
conversations
around
the
the
arp
funds
and
kind
of
you
know
thinking
about
the
because
we've
I'd
say:
we've
had
a
variety.
So
this
is
the
last
right
of
these
departmental
budget
hearings
and
on
our
tour
through
the
departments,
there's
an
awful
lot
of
departments
who
are
trying
to
think
about
a
job
training
piece.
A
So
there's,
like
you,
know,
environment
sitting
with
the
million
dollars
for
green
jobs,
then
you've
got
the
hard
hit
industries
million
dollars
and
you've
got
the
arts
and
culture.
One
and
a
lot
of
these
are
departments
with
high
expertise
in
the
area
of
substance
that
they
are
working
in,
but
not
necessarily
expertise
in
job
training
and
pipeline
programs,
and
so
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
understand
and
all
those
things
are
in
formation
and
there's
no
shame
in
that.
The
arp
was
passed
in
mid-march
right
like
we're
all
building
this.
A
You
know
bicycle
as
we
ride
it,
but
I
think
it
has
been
a
little
bit
of
a
flag
for
me
that
it
feels
like
some
of
those
departments
could
use
really
active
partnership
with
folks
who
think
about
workforce
development
stuff
all
the
time.
So
I
want
to
know
where
that
conversation
set
of
conversations
is.
D
Yeah
I
mean
in
some
cases
we're
building
on
longer
term
conversations
that
extend
well
pre-coded,
so
we
have
been,
for
example,
meeting
with
the
environment
department
on
a
monthly
basis
for
the
last
year
and
a
half,
or
so,
to
talk
about
green
jobs
and
green
jobs,
training
and
have
developed
sort
of
a
set
of
policy
principles
like
priorities
that
we
want
to
to
advance.
D
So
as
the
funding
becomes
available,
if
it
doesn't
have
become
available,
then
that
you
know
can
hopefully
track
with
the
sort
of
strategic
planning
that
we've
been
doing
all
along
a
lot
of
what
we
emphasize
are
more
pathways
and
models
that
are
somewhat
content
neutral.
So
we
think
about
registered
apprenticeship.
We
think
about
pathways
through
community
colleges.
D
We
think
about
occupational
skills
training
in
community-based
organizations.
Those
have
always
been
our
guidance
in
terms
of
like
what
we
think
about
funding
and
I
think
they
hold
true.
Regardless
of
what
the
actual
content
of
the
training
is.
You
know
we
want
to
see
more
registered
apprenticeship
across
the
board
across
all
kinds
of
sectors,
so
with
specifically
with
environment,
we're
hoping
to
build
on
those
planning
sessions
that
we've
been
having
with
arts
and
culture.
D
I
mean,
I
think
this
is
something
that
tren
has
has
led
and
she
could
maybe
speak
to
you
more,
but
we
have
been
working
pre-covered.
We
worked
with
the
with
umass
dartmouth
to
put
together
a
research
project
on
career
opportunities
in
the
creative
economy
for
boston
residents.
So
really
thinking
not
just
about
you
know
traditional
arts
and
culture,
employers,
but
also
really
thinking
about
the
creative
economy,
type
jobs
that
are
embedded
within
larger
organizations
or
embedded
within.
D
You
know
the
the
graphic
designer
who
works
for
state
street
right
and
then
really
mapping
those
back
to
career
pathways
that
are
offered,
whether
it's
through
bps
and
their
career
and
technical
education,
or
whether
it's
again
through
our
our
tuition-free
community
college
initiative.
D
So
I
think,
to
a
large
extent,
we
we
hope
to
you
know,
use
some
of
these
funds
to
advance
those
long-standing
priorities.
We
also
put
in
a
request
for
funds
to
advance
digital
literacy.
I'm
just
seeing
that
that
is
something
that
was
critically
important,
pre-pandemic
and
you
know
obviously
the
last
14
15
months
have
taught
us
that
it's
indispensable.
D
So
I
agree.
There's
a
lot
of
you
know
a
conversation
that
might
be
happening
in
different
places,
depending
on
kind
of
the
content
that
people
want
to
do,
but
that
we
would
always
point
back
to
the
importance
of
pathways
and
what
those
pathways
should
should
include,
and
we
definitely
are
ready
to
work
with
any
department
to
advance
those.
A
A
So
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
it
that
one's
the
one
that
seems
the
most
like.
Okay,
are
we
supporting
workers
transitioning
or
are
we
just
you
know
supporting
these
industries,
so
they
hire
their
people
back
or
what's
going
on?
There.
D
No
absolutely-
and
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
advocacy
and
organizing
happening
with
you
know
whether
it's
hotel
workers
and
their
organizations
or
community-based
organizations,
and
so
hopefully,
that
you
know
create
some
opportunities
that
we
can
then
come
in
and
fund
projects
that
do
help
people.
D
We
have
worked
closely
with
with
best
hospitality,
the
local
26
training
and
upgrade
fund
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
to
provide
resources.
We've
done
a
number
of
sort
of
emergency
grants
to
them
to
support
their
workforce.
I
think
the
other
thing
is,
you
know
they
have
relationships
with
job
seekers,
so
they
don't
have
to
go
out
and
sort
of
find
people
who
want
to
engage
in
job
training
programs.
D
So
we,
like
you,
know
to
prioritize
investing
in
those,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
funds
are
being
spent
to
serve
boston
residents
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
they
don't
have
to
sort
of
start
from
zero.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
hard
hit
industries
pieces
also
may
work
with
you
know
with
small
businesses
as
well,
which
is
not
an
area
where
we
do
as
much
work
because
there's
not
necessarily
as
much
like
common
threads
across
small
employers.
D
But
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
we
work
closely
with
encore.
We
have
a
regular
standing
quarterly
meeting
with
with
hiring
managers
at
encore
and
community
based
organizations
in
boston.
So
we
are
trying
to
follow
all
those
conversations
as
they
happen.
A
Yeah,
great
and,
and
you
guys
have
been
involved
right,
the
thing
that
soar
has
been
doing
the
training
program
in
april
may.
D
We
it's
partially
funded
by
the
neighborhood
jobs,
trust
I
I
don't
think
we've
been
as
involved
in
the
like
program
development,
so
to
speak,
but
we
have
provided
some
resources
for
it.
A
And
are
you?
Are
you
yet
actively
talking
with
obviously
success
link
on
the
ye
side?
Has
they
have
somebody
coming
in
to
do
more
evaluation?
They've
also
got
a
grant
for
evaluation,
but,
like
one
of
the
pieces,
there
right
is
thinking
about
how
those
youth
jobs,
which
are
you
know,
a
taste
for
young
people,
of
what
different
things
in
the
work
world
might
be
like
like
how
they
turn
into
more
like
pipeline
type
opportunities.
D
Yeah,
absolutely
I
mean
we
work
closely
with
alicia
sasser
modestino,
who
is
sort
of
the
co-grantee
with
yee
for
the
evaluation.
We
have
piloted
a
few
sort
of
options.
Last
summer
we
started
our
learn
and
earn
program
where
students
are
paid
an
hourly
wage
to
basically
take
a
college
class
over
the
summer,
and
we've
worked
closely
with
bps
this
year
to
really
align
that
with
their
early
college
and
dual
enrollment
programming.
D
So
we
can
say
this
is
an
opportunity
for
students
who
maybe
don't
have
early
college
or
dual
enrollment
in
their
college
to
get
that
experience
during
the
summer
and
also
earn
a
wage
for
it.
So
I
think
we're
sort
of
constantly
looking
for
how
we
can
be
complementary
to
those
efforts.
I'll
also
say
that
that
is
very
much
the
conversation
that
the
state
has
as
well
just
in
terms
of
aligning
to
career
pathways.
D
That's
the
real
big
theme
of
the
funding
that
we
manage
from
this
commonwealth
corporation
in
the
state
of
massachusetts
for
summer
jobs
in
boston.
So
some
of
that
is
sort
of
happening
from
both
sides,
which
is
always
nice.
There's
some
synergy.
There.
A
D
Yeah,
I
will
say
we
served
about
550
students
last
year
and
just
from
a
sort
of
program
development
point
of
view.
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
really
refine
our
model
to
make
sure
we're
aligned
with
the
bps
to
make
sure
we're,
for
example,
selecting
courses
that
align
to
the
early
college
pathways
so
that
students
kind
of
get
that
additional
sort
of
benefit
of
being
on
that
pathway.
D
So
we've
really
taken
this
year
as
an
opportunity
based
on
some
of
the
evaluation
that
we
did
last
summer
to
continue
to
refine
the
program
model.
And
last
summer
I
will
say,
the
big
push
was
make
sure
that
we
have
opportunities
for
students
that
are
fully
remote,
and
so
that
was
prioritized
for
very,
very
good
reason.
D
I
think
that
was
absolutely
the
right
decision
and
we're
looking
forward
to
you
know
maybe
growing
in
a
somewhat
more
controlled
fashion
over
the
next
couple
of
years
as
we,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
students
are,
for
example,
passing
their
classes.
D
It's
somewhat
counterproductive
if
students
come
and
are
assigned
to
a
course
and
then
don't
pass,
then
they're
sort
of
starting
their
early
college
journey
with
a
with
a
ding
on
their
transcript,
so
sort
of
really
figuring
out
how
to
provide
the
appropriate
level
of
wraparound
support
for
students
so
that
they
have
a
strong
academic
experience
is
also
one
of
our
big
goals.
This
summer.
D
We'll
have
170
so
that
includes
20
students
who
are
part
of
the
madison
park,
cte
dual
enrollment
program
and
then
150
students
who
applied
and
were
randomly
selected
into
the
program.
A
D
The
application
is
actually
still
open,
so
we'll
be
sort
of
going
through
they've
extended
the
application
a
couple
times.
Last
summer
I
will
say
we
had
about
1100
applications,
and
this
summer
I
think
we
had
about
300
applications,
so
the
number
of
applications
went
well
way
down
as
well.
A
Okay
and-
and
one
thing
that
I
just
would
would
love,
is
the
owd
think
about,
and
it's
sort
of
like
this
is
like
a
triangle
conversation
between
why
ee
environment
and
owd
is
like
we,
we
have
these
really
great
success.
Link
programs
focused
on
green
jobs
that
are
like
step
one
in
a
potential
green
job
ladder,
but
they're
very
much
the
introductory
level.
It's
like
green
team
speak
for
the
trees.
What
common
square
does
what
the
emerald
necklace
conservancy
does
like?
A
We've
got
these
like
that
we're
funding
right
for
the
summer
and
they
all
like
it
feels
very
much
like
the
lowest
hanging.
Fruit
first
step
is
to
provide
like
a
little
bit
of
support
and
cohesion
to
that
set
of
things
and
think
about
how
that
set
of
things
like
grows
into
step
two
and
it
just.
It
feels
like
that's
a
space
where
owd
could
be
helpful
in
the
interstitial
kind
of
bit.
So
just.
D
Yeah,
I
agree.
I
think
we
need
to
identify
what
are
the
occupations
that
require
some
level
of
training
and
thus
come
with.
You
know:
higher
wages,
better
benefits.
You
know
that
we
can
sort
of
be
putting
students
on
a
training
pathway
toward.
So
I
agree
with
that.
A
Great
and
then
a
question,
that's
for
you
and
the
bpda,
because
everyone's
sitting
here,
I'm
wondering
when
I'll
stop
asking
questions
just
to
katie
is
the
and
I've
I've
talked
to
john
about
this
before.
But
I
just
want
to
put
it
on
the
record
kind
of
you
know
the
with
buffalo,
wd
and
vpda
in
the
room.
A
You
know,
I
think
both
certainly
my
district,
certainly
counselor,
flynn's
district,
probably
counselor
braden's
district
to
some
extent,
like
you
know,
we're
all
seeing
this
huge
growth
in
lab
space
and
and
I'm
I'm
very,
very
antsy
that,
as
we
create
a
bunch
like
a
noticeably
higher
percentage
of
boston,
commercial,
real
estate,
that
is
devoted
to
lab
that
we
have
pipelines
for
our
young
people
into
jobs
in
those
labs.
And
I
recognize
that
there's
a
pipeline
in
the
mix
there,
that's
a
academic,
tertiary
education
pipeline
to
principal,
investigator,
etc.
A
Right,
which
isn't
one
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
from
an
owd
side
do
much
on.
But
when
I
think
about
lab
technicians
when
I
think
about
the
whole
kind
of
support
world
around
a
lab
when-
and
even
you
know-
lots
of
people,
I
know
have
been
lab
techs
and
have
then
gone
off
to
get
their
phd
in
science
right.
So
it's
not
totally
unrelated
space
it
just.
A
You
know
I've
already
got
that
in
the
world
of
the
hospitals
and
the
universities,
and
if,
if
we
go
into
increasing
commercial
lab
space
and
that's
another
space
where
that
becomes
too
true,
it
worries
me
so
I
just
and
and
obviously
what
matters
is
that
effective
pipeline,
the
one
that
actually
ends
up
with
somebody
with
a
job.
A
N
D
I
I
absolutely
agree,
you
know
the
explosion,
potential
lap,
jobs
and
there's
a
dearth
of
the
sort
of
like
community-based
training
programs
that
we
tend
to
support.
There
are
a
couple
of
really
strong
ones.
Just
to
start
and
cambridge
has
a
great
lab
technician.
Training
program
that's
historically
been
focused
on
pharmaceutical
employers
in
kendall
square.
There's,
mass
bioed
just
launched
an
apprenticeship
program
that
is
a
paid.
I
mean
a
paid
apprenticeship
program
to
train
and
different
kind
of
lab
roles.
D
So
I
think
these
are
exactly
the
kind
of
mid-scale
in
demand
good,
paying
career
pathways
that
we
should
be
thinking
about,
and
once
students
get
into
employment
at
a
large
employer
have
opportunity
for
advancement
so
yeah.
We
will
definitely
be
including
life
sciences
and
in
our
upcoming
rfp
in
general.
D
The
way
we
work
is
organizations
and
through
investing
in
their
program,
so
we
are
very
hopeful
that
we'll
receive
applications
that
speak
to
this
need,
and
I
think
many
of
our
job
training
partners
are,
you
know,
seeing
the
same
headlines
and
seeing
writing
on
the
wall
that
this
is
the
space
they
should
be
moving
into.
So
we're
happy
to
sort
of
continue
to
participate
in
those
conversations
and
hopefully
have
opportunities
to
invest
in
them.
Moving
forward,
yeah.
E
I
just
want
to
add
one
quick
thing
to
that,
which
is
we
just
a
plug
for
our
planned
nubian
square
plan
committee
planning
meeting
coming
up
at
the
end
of
the
month,
where
we're
looking
at
parcel
p3,
where
we
know
there's
a
lab
interest
from
the
real
estate
community
and
we're
talking
about
precisely.
This
is
the
focus
the
meeting
with
the
community
talking
about
the
pathways
between
the
potential
jobs
that
are
created
from
that
type
of
that
type
of
development
and
and
the
potential
the
existing
and
then
potential
future
pathways.
E
Also,
thinking
about
madison
park,
benjamin
franklin's
move
to
nubian
square
the.
What
what
potential
future
pathways
might
exist
to
to
connect
residents
of
boston,
particularly
roxbury
in
that
case,
to
to
laboratory
uses
if
in.
If,
if
that,
indeed
comes
to
pass.
A
No
that's
great.
I.
I
really
think
that
I
mean
to
your
point
katie
about
our
general
model,
like.
I
really
think
that
cracking
this
in
a
transformative
way
that
results
in
different
outcomes
is
going
to
involve
city
leadership
above
and
beyond
us
waiting
for
our
ecosystem
of
partners
to
to
figure
something
out.
I
not
because
our
ecosystem
of
partners
is
not
excellent.
I
just
think
that
it's
always
hard
for
people
to
build
like
to
build
a
model
in
a
new
space
and
hope
that
the
public
entity
is
to
fund
it
right.
A
It's
just
like
a
hard,
that's
a
hard
step,
and
you
sort
of
inherently
haven't
hired
the
people
to
run
that
like
at
the
right,
whatever
it
is.
That
you're
currently
running
is
what
you're
getting
funding
for,
and
so
I
just
think
like,
and
I
think
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
devin
that
you
guys
are
doing
on
planned
nubian.
I
mean
I
just
think
we're
we're
we're
living
in
a
reality
where,
like
longwood,
is
extending
down
brookline
app.
A
That's
part
of
why
we're
doing
the
sort
of
like
trying
to
be
more
coherent
in
our
are
thinking
about
the
development
there
in
that
section
of
fenway,
and
then
the
entire
red
line
corridor
is
becoming
a
lab
corridor
and
it's
like
yeah
right
now
we're
talking
about
flynn's
district
in
mind,
but
we
will
be
in
a
serious
way
talking
about
seven
and
four,
and
we
already
kind
of
are
right
and
like
it's
just
it
just
would
be.
So
it
would
be
so
easy
for
that.
D
Well,
didn't
they
see
it?
Why
didn't
they
do
it
yeah?
No,
I
I
counselor
I
I
I'm
not.
I
I
think
we're
definitely
at
kind
of
an
inflection
point
here.
I
would
definitely
say
when
I
think
about
getting
to
scale
with
sort
of
a
new
sector
training,
especially
this
one.
Our
community
colleges,
ben
franklin,
are
such
important
partners
and
we
really
see
our
tuition-free
community
college
initiative
as
one
of
the
ways
that
we
sort
of
support
expansion
into
new
sectors.
D
We
work
closely
with
our
partners
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
they
can
braid
our
funding
sources
so
that
they
can
propose
a
program
that
you
know
wraps
together.
Cdbg
funding.
You
know
njt
funding
and
potentially
tfcc
to
create
a
pathway
for
students.
So
in
some
ways
we're
sort
of
you
know
working
with
the
tools
that
that
we
have
to
you
know,
but
also
developing
new
tools
just
in
the
expansion
of
tfcc.
D
But
you
know,
I
think
I
think
that
the
writing
is
definitely
on
the
wall
in
terms
of
the
expansion
of
life
sciences.
So
yeah
it's
a
moment
to
jump
on.
I
agree.
A
Yeah
and
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
results-oriented
plan
like
I
think
it's
great,
if
I
think
it's
great,
for
you
know
when
we're
developing
things
for
it
to
be
like
okay,
what
was
our
achievement
this
year?
Well,
we
supported
ben
franklin
in
creating
this
new
set
of
courses
or,
like
you
know,
they
enrolled
more
people
in
these
courses.
A
That's
fine,
but
those
are
all
intermediate
goals
right
at
some
point.
The
metric
has
to
be,
and
this
many
ben
franklin
like
grads
from
this
path
got
jobs
in
this
thing
and-
and
I
think
I
just
I-
I
I
don't
feel
as
a
counselor-
that
I
see
enough
of
that
kind
of
data
on
workforce
development
like
the
ways
in
which
and
I'm
sure
some
of
it
you
have-
and
I
just
don't
see
you
katie
like
I'm,
not
legit,
but
I
just
I
feel
like
that.
D
Yeah,
no,
absolutely
I
mean
people
are
investing
their
time,
energy,
their
limited
time
in
a
job
training
program
for
very
for
one
reason,
because
they
want
a
job
and
so
we're
almost
sort
of
making
that
implied,
promise
to
people
that
there
will
be
a
job
on
the
other
end,
and
we
take
that
very
seriously.
A
lot
of
our
contracts
are
performance
based,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
sort
of
pull
together
some
figures
and
share
that,
but
we
do
definitely
have
to
keep
that
employment
and
we
think
about
that
a
lot.
D
The
people
who
are
you
know
taking
time
away
from
their
families
taking
time
away
from
their
other
paid
employment
to
participate
in
a
program.
It's
not
because
they
want
the
experience
of
going
through
a
job.
Training
program
is
because
they
want
a
better
job.
So
I
think
that
that's
the
bottom
line
for
our
office
as
well.
A
Great
all
right,
well,
yeah!
I
would
love
if
you,
if
you
pulled
some
stuff
together
for
me
on
that.
That
would
be
awesome,
because
I
just
I
feel
like
I've
got
to
in
all
the
conversations
we're
having
about
development
on
the
brooklyn
ave
corridor
in
the
lab
space
like
I've
got
to
really
have
a
grasp
on
what
we're
going
to
do
on
the
workforce
development
front
to
get
comfortable
with
that,
and
then
the
I
think
my
last
question.
Sorry
everyone.
This
is
the
dangerous
thing,
so
commercial
vacancies.
A
It
came
up
in
our
oed
meeting
that
I
think
the
oed
folks
are
working
with
bbda
research
and
sort
of
looking
at
google
analytics
data
and
trying
to
get
a
better
feel
for
where
we
have
vacancies-
and
I
just
love
to
hear
because
obviously,
as
we
frequently
discussed
with
assessing
sort
of
the
assessing
records
about
what's
vacant
is
often
misleading,
because
a
landlord
can
lease
something
to
themselves
like
there
can
be
technically
a
lease
on
the
books,
but
nobody's
actually
operating.
So
it
doesn't
perfectly
match
up
with
what
our
constituents
experience,
which
is.
A
I
have
a
lot
of
blank
storefronts
here
when
are
people
coming
back
into
it
and
I'm
especially
interested
in
this,
because
I
think
I
counselor
mejia
and
I
and
pretty
much
everybody
on
the
council.
You
know
is
trying
to
think
in
this
moment
about
how
like
how
can
part
of
the
recovery,
be
us
designing
programs
that
that,
like
successfully
incentivize
moving
like
local,
independent,
small
businesses,
this
is
owned
by
people
of
color
women
like
into
vacancies,
and
it's
one
of
the
pieces
of
that
is.
A
You
have
to
kind
of
understand
where
your
vacancies
are
in
a
data-driven
way.
So
I
know
alvaro
is
not
on
this
call,
but
I
just
I'm
a
little
bit
curious
kind
of
if
anybody
can
speak
to
that
collaboration
with
oed
and
when
it
sounded
like
some.
A
G
I
know
that
we're
working
on
a
memorandum
of
agreement
to
start
to
build
a
database
and
I've
been
working
with
our
research
team
to
purchase
more
commercial
data,
because
you
know
our
previous
sources
remy
and
others.
You
know
as
we've
monitored
both
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
and
the
recovery.
G
We
are
trying
to
gather
more
data,
particularly
around
businesses,
and
so,
if
I
might
have
this
connected
with
the
wrong
project.
But
if
I'm
thinking
about
the
right
matter,
I
believe
we're
going
to
our
board
in
june
to
approve
the
moa,
and
I
know
that
we're
working
with
midori
and
oeed
to
try
to
start
building
that.
So
I
know
alvaro's
deep
in
conversations
with
them
and
we
could
certainly
follow
up
if
any
additional
information
is
needed.
A
Yeah,
I
would
love,
I
would
love,
follow
up
and
just
be
looped
in
and
know
what
our
timing
is,
because
it
seems
to
me
like
something
that
we
should
be
if
we
could
figure
out
the
right
set
of
of
conditions
so
that
you're
you're
genuinely
making
something
happen.
That
wouldn't
be
happening
otherwise,
like
I
think,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
think
about
recovery
funds
in
ways
that
are
playing
this
matching
game
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
driven
by
having
better
data,
and
so
I'm
sure
that
is
the
right
matter.
A
Michelle
ever
I
mean
it
was
midori
who
was
talking
about
it?
I
I
suspect,
she's
not
working
on
two
different
moas
for
data
on
commercial
stuff
with
you
so
would
love?
Would
love
follow
up
on
that
great
well,
I
think
I
think
that's
everything
from
me
and
I'm
just
before
I
go
to
public
testimony.
I
just
want
to
if
anybody
from
the
agency
wants
to
say
a
final
word,
and
then
also
I
just
I
didn't
do
this
properly,
so
I
just
wanted
to
welcome.
Barry
barry.
A
I
think
this
is
your
first
time
before
the
council
and
we
look
forward
to
future
ones
being
in
person,
but
I'm
happy
to
happy
to
see
you
here
on
the
team
yeah.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
and
if
anyone
from
vpda
wants
to
say
anything
before
I
go
to
public
testimony,
now's
your
chance.
B
Just
one
clarification
I
misspoke
a
little
bit
earlier
regarding
my
linkage
comments,
I'm
a
little
ahead
of
myself.
What
we're
currently
doing
is
looking
at
what
an
appropriate
adjustment
might
be
based
on
february
21
to
july
21
timeline,
given
that
we
just
increased
linkage
in
february
of
this
year,
we'll
be
looking
at
linkage
postcovid
with
an
updated
study,
since
the
last
study
was
in
2016.,
so
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
I
was
not
sufficiently
detailed.
My
answer
previously.
A
B
I
was
getting
ahead
of
myself,
you
know
afh,
perfect,
yeah
linkage,
never
perfect.
A
All
right:
well,
we
will
let
councillor
edwards
know
so
that
the
time
period
is
looking
at
that
and
then
yeah.
I
think
we're
all
antsy
on
the
on
the
council
to
to
think
about
another
increase,
but
also
mindful
that
there's
a
there's
a
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
where
the
economy
is
actually
at,
which
has
been
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
a
black
box
for
everybody
just
and
just
and
just
a
rapidly
shifting
landscape
right.
So
great
anything
else,.
M
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
mike
and
thanks
for
being
here
all
right
and
with
that
we'll
be
moving
to
public
testimony,
so
I'll
be
transferring
folks
into
the
room.
A
I've
got
tom
ready
and
sarah
mccammond
be
up
first
and
then,
if
you
are
watching
this
at
home,
and
you
had
wanted
to
testify-
and
you
aren't
in
the
zoom
now
would
be
the
time
to
quickly
email,
ccc.wm
at
boston.gov
and
get
the
link
because,
after
after
we
take
these
we'll
we'll
be
closing
out
the
hearing
and
if
you
can,
if
you're,
giving
public
testimony
just
state
your
name,
your
residence
or
affiliation,
and
then
just
share
your
comments
with
us.
Mr
ready.
K
Thank
you,
counselor,
I'm
ready.
I
live
in
south
boston
and
council
of
flint's
district.
I
appreciate
the
time
to
make
comments.
I
I'd
like
to
focus
on
two
primary
things.
First
and
foremost
is
how
do
we
reestablish
or
establish,
depending
upon
your
point
of
view,
the
public
trust
in
in
the
process
that
the
bbpa
uses
to
engage
the
community
and
to
get
meaningful
community
input?
K
I
think
we're
in
a
an
interesting
juxtaposition,
as
we
come
out
of
the
the
pandemic
in
the
emergency
orders
in
the
virtual
world
that
we're
in
today
to
actually
be
able
to
jump
start
that
right,
I'm
really
interested
in
the
email
that
was
mentioned
earlier
in
the
hearing,
hopefully
that's
available
somewhere,
so
that
everybody
that
participated
in
in
listening
to
the
comments
can
read
through
that.
It
sounds
like
it's.
A
very
thoughtful
and
well-structured
set
of
recommendations.
Clearly
yeah.
K
I
personally
would
like
to
do
that,
but
I'd
like
to
see
the
bpda
and
frankly
the
city,
I
think
the
councils
need
to
seriously
consider
how
public
engagement
is
is
is
gathered
in
meaningful
input
is
considered
because,
honestly,
each
agency
does
something
different.
It
would
be
good
for
this,
even
though
these
comments
are
directed,
you
know
to
the
bpda,
so
that
would
include
things
hybrid
clearly
in
person
remote
at
a
location
that
supports
that,
with
appropriate
language
access.
K
All
of
the
things
that
have
been
talked
about,
but
but
they
have
an
opportunity
to
do
this
right.
Part
and
parcel
of
that
is
the
impact
advisory
groups.
I
know
council
me
has
had
done
some
work
in
that
in
that
space.
Clearly,
education
on
what
an
impact
advisory
group
is
knowledge
about
the
process,
understanding
how
how
that
input
is
used
both
at
the
public
and
for
the
iag
members,
clearly
that
the
overall
engagement
process
needs
to
factor
that
in
so
that's
public
engagement.
K
Second
point
is
just
on
the
use
of
city
owned
land.
The
bpa
owns
most
of
the
city
owned
land.
From
from
what
I
can
see
and
the
opportunity
that
it
creates
to
use
it
for
city
services,
not
just
as
a
as
a
revenue
source.
I
recognize
the
the
need
to
have
a
balanced
budget,
but
parochially
speaking,
I
think
councillor
flynn
talked
about
this.
There's
a
significant
need
that
for
fire
and
ems
services
and
in
the
neighborhood
that
I
live
in,
there's
there's
land.
K
That's
currently
up
for
rfp
for
reuse
consideration
in
the
flynn
park.
We
clearly
would
like
to
see
that
some
of
that
land
be
considered
for
civic
services.
So
thank
you.
Counselor.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
tom
and
I'm
sure
that
we
can.
The
the
email
that
was
mentioned
by
counselor
campbell
is
a
public
record.
So
I'm
sure
we
can
find
that
for
you.
Sarah
mccannon
you're
up
next
you've
sent
me
it
yourself.
C
S
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
bach.
My
name
is
sarah
mccammond,
I'm
a
four-point
resident
and
I'm
also
the
executive
director
of
the
harborfront
neighborhood
alliance.
We
bring
together
residents,
voices
in
the
neighborhoods
of
from
east
boston,
charlestown
north
end,
downtown
south
boston,
seaport,
fort
point,
water
and
dorchester
port,
norfolk,
columbia,
saving
hill
neighborhoods
to
to
drive
a
community
driven
process
for
a
sustainable
and
publicly
accessible
waterfront,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
talked
about
last
year
at
this
time
was
the
community
engagement
during
the
pandemic.
S
We
are
now
coming
out
of
that
and
with
that,
the
state
of
emergency
will
be
lifted
on
june
15th,
and
we
are
curious
to
understand
since
that
wasn't
allowed.
Remote
meetings
were
in
allowed
use
under
that
adjustment
to
open
meeting
law
how
the
bpda
will
be
conducting
meetings
going
forward.
S
We
are
also
have
advocated
for
having
a
very
transparent
process
where
people
know
who's
in
the
room
they
can
chat,
they
can
ask
their
questions
and
running.
Zoom.
Webinar
does
not
facilitate
that
in
any
way.
So
with
that,
it's
a
very
much
bottom
down
teaching
approach
and
it
does
not
bring
together
a
high
level
and
robust
level
of
virtual
engagement.
And
so
we
would
like
to
advocate
for
zoom
meetings.
If
we
during
a
hybrid
portion
of
in-person
and
digital
platforms,.
S
The
other
thing,
I'll
just
say
really
quickly,
if
I
have
a
minute,
is
about
life
sciences
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
infiltration
proliferation
of
life
sciences
and
residential
communities
and
the
head
house,
or
the
mechanical
houses
being
20
to
50
feet
above
zoning
really
has
an
impact
on
the
character
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
we
would
like
to
see
that
zoning
be
adjusted
or
for
the
la
for
height
to
include
a
cap
or
somehow
limit
those
mechanical
houses.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
for
those
comments.
Sarah
and
yes-
and
I
think
we're
all
we're
all
thinking
that
the
the
virtual
to
hybrid,
et
cetera
transition
is
it's
gonna,
be
a
work
in
progress
and
it
needs
to
be
figured
out
well
and
in
a
way
that
maximizes,
you
know,
engagement
in
that
sense
of
people
being
able
to
relate
to
each
other.
So
I
appreciate
those
comments.
I
hope
the
bpd
will
take
them
back
as
well.
A
All
right,
I
think,
that's
everybody
who
we
have
here
for
public
comment,
and
so
nothing
remains,
except
for
me
to
say
that
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
all
and
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
our
technical
difficulties.
Earlier.