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From YouTube: Committee on Ways and Means FY22Budget: Public Testimony
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Dockets #0524-0531 - FY22 Budget: Public Testimony
Held on June 3, 2021
A
I'm
calling
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district
8
city
councilor
for
city,
boston
and
also
the
chair
of
the
council's
ways
and
means
committee.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded,
it's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel,
8,
rcm,
channel
82
and
fios
channel
964..
A
The
council's
budget
review
process
is
about
35
working
sessions
and
hearings,
most
of
which
we've
had
at
this
point.
We've
got
one
on
the
bpda
budget
tomorrow
morning
and
that'll
conclude
our
kind
of
department
hearings
period
and
then
we'll
be
considering
the
budget
and
resubmission
throughout
june.
A
But
we're
really
excited
to
have
this
public
testimony
hearing
tonight
to
hear
from
members
of
the
public
about
the
budget
and
if
you
are
watching
for
the
first
time
and
you'd
like
to
come,
get
involved.
We'd
be
happy
to
hear
your
testimony
tonight,
so
you
could
send
an
email
to
ccc.wm
boston.gov
or
if
you
go
to
boston.gov
budget-testify.
A
A
A
But
again,
our
focus
tonight
is
on
public
testimony
on
any
and
all
subjects
and
departments
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we're
hearing
from
you.
So
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues,
counselor
ed
flynn,
district,
two
counselor
matt,
o'malley
district
six
and
also
our
president
pro
tem
and
counselor
julia
mejia
at
large
for
joining
me
tonight.
A
We've
got
a
number
of
members
of
the
public
signed
up
to
testify,
and
I
know
we
also
have
a
number
of
members
of
the
public
who
have
tested
who
have
submitted
videos
which
we'll
be
playing
in
this
hearing
as
well.
So
before
I
go
to
the
members
of
the
public,
I
just
want
to
give
my
colleagues
who
are
here
with
me
a
chance
to
just
say
a
brief
hello.
So
I'll
go
first
to
counselor
flynn.
B
B
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor
flynn
and
yes,
strongly
agree.
We
have
some
invisible
folks
behind
the
scenes
on
the
council
central
staff
side
who
really
make
this
whole
virtual
process
happen,
especially
in
the
midst
of
them.
This
strange
era
that
we're
living
through
and
so
we're
very
grateful
to
all
of
them.
President
o'malley.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
great,
to
be
with
you
as
well
as
counselors,
flooded
me
and
I'm
sure
our
other
colleagues
will
be
joining
us
ditto.
Thanks
for
the
tremendous
leadership
you
have
shown
in
your
second
budget
season
as
chair
and,
of
course,
central
staff,
who's
done
just
remarkable
work
throughout
this
pandemic,
particularly
during
this
budget
process.
C
Like
eddie,
I
am
here
to
listen
to
the
members
of
the
public.
This
is
the
most
important
facet
of
our
job.
It's
something
that
we
take
very
very
seriously
and
I
think
there's
some
good
things
in
the
budget,
but
I
also
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
make
it
even
better.
As
we
talk
about
resubmission
and
as
we
talk
about
the
next
several
weeks,
so
we'll
look
forward
to
hearing
from
our
colleagues,
friends
and
neighbors
thanks
so
much.
D
Asked
thank
you,
counselor
bach,
for
your
hard
work
and
keeping
us
well
informed
and
engaged,
and
throughout
this
process,
I'm
really
eager
to
hear
from
the
public,
and
I'm
also
enthusiastic,
to
see
and
hear
my
colleagues
also
sharing
enthusiasm
for
this
second
round
of
budget.
I
I
haven't
seen
so
much
enthusiasm
from
the
council.
A
So
if
you
want
to
testify
again
email,
ccc.wm,
boston.gov
or
there's
a
link,
you
can
find
at
boston.gov
budget
testify
and
we'd,
be
delighted
to
hear
from
you
and,
like
I
said
I'll,
be
holding
the
room
open
until
at
least
seven
o'clock
just
to
make
sure
that
people
have
time
to
come
and
log
in.
But
in
the
meantime
we've
got
a
couple
members
of
the
public
who
are
here
already
so
first
up,
I
will
go
to
kaimani
james
and
I'll.
A
E
All
righty
then
hello,
everyone,
my
name,
is
kamani
james
advocate
and
yeah.
I'm
an
advocate,
so
you
know
we're
sitting
here
talking
about
a
budget
that
allocation
would
be
overseen
by
a
woman
who
has
stifled
student
voice
and
downplays
the
trauma
of
children,
and
while
the
boston
city
council
may
have
expressed
concerns,
no
real
action
has
been
taken
and
I'm
really
glad
that
this
meeting
was
reported
because
I'm
going
to
need
every
single
city
councilor
to
go
back
and
watch
this.
E
Everyone's
priorities
are
messed
up,
and
I
say
y'all
and
everyone,
as
in
every
single
city
counselor,
because
no
one
is
excused,
kids
are
being
abused
and
you
all
want
to
talk
about
elections,
dirt,
bikes
and
pavement.
Absolutely
not.
This
is
so
sad.
I
should
strip
every
one
of
your
assignments
committee
assignments
and
positions
on
the
city
council
and
teach
all
of
you
how
to
effectively
represent
your
constituents,
because
this
is
not
how
you
do
it.
Are
you
all
forgetting
that
students
are
a
part
of
your
constituency?
E
This
is
really
sad.
The
superintendent
must
go
for
reasons
that
I
don't
have
time
to
outline
right
here
this
second,
but
I've
already
done,
and
so
does
other
people
need
to
be
held
accountable,
both
in
her
leadership
staff
and
outside
of
her
leadership
staff
to
see
the
city
council,
I
need
to
see
the
city
council
calling
for
accountability
unapologetically.
Quite
frankly,
you
know
it's,
it's
just
really
sad.
E
Everyone's
priorities
are
messed
up,
kids
were
abused
and
all
y'all
do
is
check
off
boxes
and
release
statements
while
eating
kale
chips
and
doing
things
like
taking
money
from
police
officers
for
elections
that
you
shouldn't
be
running
in
with
all
that
being
said,
the
budget
does
an
inadequate
job
of
ensuring
bps
students
are
actually
getting
the
resources
they
need.
More
money
does
not
mean
more
resources.
E
A
G
Thank
you
for
having
this
hearing.
I've
testified
in
many
different
spaces,
I'm
an
a
parent,
an
educator,
a
community
activist
and
also
president
of
a
non-profit
black
teachers
matter
incorporated.
I
thank
you
guys
for
taking
out
the
time
to
actually
listen
to
the
public
specifically
on
the
budget.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
that
I've
never
really
heard
answered.
I
guess
some
of
them
are
in
process.
G
I
testified
at
the
boston
school
committee
asking
about
the
460
million
dollars
that
is
coming
down
to
the
district
and
where
that's
actually
going
and
how
people
are
going
to
be
held
accountable
for
that.
I've
also
asked
many
times
about
compensation
and
a
vote
for
the
boston
school
committee
student
representative.
Everyone
else
gets
paid.
G
They
do
that
same
work
and
they're
also
students,
and
I
was
told
that
it
was
illegal
because
it
was
written
out
that
way
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
boston
city
council
can
actually
address
that,
and
I've
heard
comments
for
that
to
happen.
For
the
student
reps
actually
get
a
vote,
possibly
two
student
reps
to
be
on
the
boston
school
committee
instead
of
one,
and
so
I'm
hopefully,
hopefully-
and
I've
heard
anissa.
G
G
My
questions
are
one:
should
the
school
committee
budge
the
school
department?
Excuse
me,
school
department
and
budget
be
reduced
by
the
amount
that
the
school
raises.
If
this
one
particular
school
can
raise
over
60
million
dollars,
should
we
be
giving
them-
and
I
say
we
because
I'm
a
taxpayer,
should
we
be
giving
them
the
same
amount
of
money
as
if
they
didn't
have
this
money?
The
other
thing
is:
where
is
this
money
coming
from
and
what
is
the
oversight
and
all
these
different
areas?
G
You
guys
your
biggest
thing
is
budget,
and
so
in
these
budgets,
especially
with
all
this
money
coming
down
to
the
boston
school
department.
What
are
the
checks
and
balances
that
are
being
taken?
Hopefully
this
body,
the
people
that
are
here
now
and
the
people
that
are
elected
later
on,
will
continue
this
work.
It
didn't
happen
overnight,
but
hopefully
you
guys
can
initiate
some
kind
of
stop
gap,
methods
or
some
kind
of
way
of
accountability
and
different
layers
of
accountability.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
sharon.
Definitely
we've
we've
expressed
to
the
school
department
a
strong
interest
in
the
in
in
how
they're,
using
their
asser
funds,
which
which
granted
has
not
been
articulated
yet-
and
I
agree
with
you-
is
an
important
area
of
concern
for
the
council
and
for
the
public.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
jessica,
felipe.
I
see
you
and
you
are
up
next.
H
H
I'm
hearing
different
things
about
budget
is
available,
but
budget,
but
it's
not
being
passed,
and
so
I'm
really
here
to
see
if
you
all
can
come
through
for
us,
because
now
I
am
in
matapan,
so
I
have
to
find
different
activities
in
different
sections
of
the
city.
For
my
kids
to
engage
in
and
every
everybody
else
has
a
space.
Everybody
else
has
things
except
for
us
over
here
and
we're
one
of
the
most
densely
populated
sections
of
the
city.
H
We
have
the
space,
we
have
what
we
need,
and
so
it's
just
I
don't
understand
why
we're
still
kind
of
like
fighting
to
get
a
specific
space,
so
our
children
can
walk
to
it
as
opposed
to
me
finding
a
car
or
a
ride
or
all
the
other
things
to
get
them
in
different
sections.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
you
all
really
pushing
this
through
for
us,
because
there's
a
lot
of
families
in
grove
hall,
and
this
would
really
really
benefit
us
greatly.
H
So
I
know
that
project
wright
has
been
working
closely.
You
know
with
the
neighbors
like
with
the
neighborhood,
and
there
is
a
a
lot
across
from
the
burke
that
is
available.
I
know
that
there
was
issues,
but
it
was
really
interesting
how
the
dispensary
really
kind
of
you
know
got
put
through
really
quickly,
but
yet
we
still
don't
have
a
youth
center
or
space
for
families
and
and
youth
and
kids.
H
If
something
comes
up
like
we,
don't
really
have
anywhere
that
we
can
go
to
for
safety,
and
so
I'm
really
like
there's
a
lot
of
empty
spaces
that
you
know
in
grove
hall.
That
could
really
accommodate
something
like
this
and
if
funding
is
available,
it
really
would
be
awesome
to
see
this
push
through.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
thanks
for
thanks
for
bringing
that
to
this
forum,
just
good
all
right.
Next,
I
think
we're
gonna
go
to.
We
have
a
few
video
testimonies,
and
I
think
you
know
again
if
you've
signed
up
to
testify
tonight-
and
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
make
it
to
the
zoom.
Yet
now
would
be
a
great
time
or
if
you
are
watching-
and
you
want
to
testify
sign
up
at
boston.gov
budget,
testify
or
shoot
us
an
email
at
ccc.wn.boston.gov.
I
The
covet
pandemic
has
laid
bare
the
structural
inequalities
and
housing
insecurities
that
threaten
our
lower
income
working
class
neighborhoods,
particularly
communities
of
color,
whose
future
in
the
city
is
at
risk.
But
as
we
emerge
from
the
pandemic
with
new
federal
funding
coming
down,
we
can
seize
this
opportunity
as
a
transformative
moment
for
the
city,
one
in
which
we
take
a
stand
for
housing
as
a
human
right
and
work
to
increase
socially
owned,
permanently,
affordable
housing
that
can
keep
our
families
and
communities
here
for
generations
to
come.
I
Second,
prioritize
acquisition
of
existing
housing
in
order
to
remove
these
properties
from
the
market
and
turn
them
into
permanently
affordable
housing.
The
prior
mayor
had
set
a
goal
of
a
thousand
units
by
2030,
but
with
908
properties
going
to
speculative
investors
in
cash
sales
in
the
year
before
the
pandemic.
We
should
challenge
ourselves
to
use
the
new
federal
dollars
and
get
to
our
thousand
unit
goal
by
2024..
I
I
ask
if
the
current
operating
budget
include
immediate,
triple
funding
for
the
aop,
with
additional
federal
funding
to
be
added
to
stabilize
both
our
residential
tenants
and
our
community
small
businesses
with
225
out
of
407
units
previously
funded
through
aop
removed
from
the
speculative
market.
We
could
get
to
a
thousand
units
by
2024
by
allocating
some
200
million
from
the
incoming
500
million
american
rescue
plan
act.
I
Funds
slated
for
the
city
of
boston
in
order
to
allow
our
community
land
trust,
who
are
particularly
focused
on
this
type
of
small
property
acquisition
to
move
more
quickly
and
compete
for
acquisitions
on
the
market.
I
ask
that
you
establish
a
specific
community
land
trust
fund
of
five
million
dollars
annually
to
support
community
ownership
of
land
that
stabilizes
neighborhoods
with
permanently
affordable
homes,
small
businesses
and
urban
farms.
I
J
J
Good
evening
my
name
is
minnie
mcmahon
and
I'm
the
coordinator
of
the
greater
boston
community
land
trust
network.
We
are
a
network
of
seven
community
land
trusts
working
to
protect
our
communities
through
permanent
community
ownership
of
land,
and
we
uphold
the
use
value
of
land
over
its
exchange
value
with
coveted
relief
coming
from
the
federal
government.
We
can
be
bold
and
clear
about
what
we
care
about
as
a
city.
J
Housing
is
a
human
right,
as
is
the
right
to
grow
one's
own
food
and
our
communities
are
places
not
products,
and
this
moment
demands
that
we
put
our
public
investments
in
the
right
place.
So
please
raise
the
aop
cap
from
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
unit
to
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
unit.
Deferred
maintenance
is
a
huge
problem.
Aop
is
a
great
program,
but
we
need
more
money.
Please
invest
in
it
to
make
it
match
the
realities
in
the
city,
please
seat
a
5
million
clt
dedicated
fund.
J
J
We
will
get
much
further
if
we
have
a
dedicated
fund
double
dnd
funds,
please
for
ecological
agricultural,
prod
projects
and
food
forest
development
fund,
25,
new
urban
farms
by
2025,
and
we
ask
that
you
invest
in
a
small
business
program,
small
businesses
by
providing
property
acquisition,
funding,
low
interest
loans,
as
well
as
technical
support
to
small
businesses
in
concert
with
clt,
so
that
we
can
permanently
preserve
our
small
businesses.
Thank.
K
K
East
boston
has
retained
a
working-class
identity
throughout
its
history,
and
this
house
provided
a
sense
of
continuity
and
connection
with
working
people
who
made
homes
in
east
boston
in
the
past.
This
is
now
the
second
pending
landmark.
That's
been
demolished
in
east
boston.
In
the
past
three
years,
when
we
demolish
historic
buildings
like
38
lexington,
we
don't
just
lose
a
connection
to
the
past
and
context
for
the
present.
K
If
we're
truly
committed
to
preventing
displacement
and
meeting
boston's
goals
of
becoming
a
zero-waste
zero-carbon
city,
we
need
to
start
thinking
of
existing
buildings
as
cultural
resources,
economic
resources
and
environmental
resources
that
must
be
actively
managed
and
conserved.
The
landmarks
commission
is
the
city
agency
that
is
currently
tasked
with
documenting
and
managing
our
existing
buildings
and
places.
K
A
L
Hi
guys,
I
got
off
work
a
little
late,
hi
everybody.
Thank
you
for
hosting
this
meeting.
I
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
you
know,
city
budget.
I
know
we're
getting
to
the
final
days
before
the
council
makes
an
approval
on
how
we
move
forward
for
the
2022..
I
just
wanted
to
be.
You
know
real
mindful
about
how
we
vote
on
this.
There's
a
lot
of
issues
going
on
in
the
city
that
it's
not
in
the
forefront
of
things
that
folks
are
looking
to
have
increased
for
me.
L
I'm
here
tonight
to
speak
on
the
fact
that
we
continue
to
close
our
bps
schools.
We
continue
to
take
away
programs
that
affect
folks
directly.
I
know
that
acting
mayor
kim
janey
has
made
bcyf
accessible
to
all
bostonians
for
zero
to
nothing,
to
make
sure
that
we
have
these
services
throughout
the
summers.
L
If
we
can
make
sure
that
when
the
body
does
take
a
vote
to
make
sure
that
we
think
about
these
other
issues
like
youth
homelessness,
the
5
000
on
5
000
families
who
are
living
in
shelters
across
massachusetts,
a
lot
of
them
require
transportation
to
and
from
the
hotels
that
they
stay
out,
stay
out
of
scattered
sites
and
so
forth
for
also
to
think
about
the
gun.
Violence!
That's
going
on
in
the
city
of
boston,
how
we
can
better
allocate
funds
from
the
bpd
budget.
L
Also
keep
in
mind
our
young
people
who
have
started
their
own
campaign
called
pick
up.
The
bikes
put
down
the
guns.
This
is
something
that
for
me,
it's
something
that
I've
been
involved
with.
For
for
a
majority
of
my
life,
I
ride
atvs
and
dirt
bikes
they've
come
to
me
a
few
times
asking
for
location.
L
A
Great,
thank
you
domingo,
so
much
for
that
testimony.
I
appreciate
it
and
now
I
think
we've
got
a
few
more
folks
signed
up
who
haven't
come
into
the
zoom
room
yet
so
my
plan,
like
I
said,
is
to
hold
this
room
open
until
at
least
seven
o'clock.
So
if
you're
watching
at
home-
and
you
still
want
to
testify-
please
do
come
join
us
in
the
zoo.
A
If
you
don't
have
a
link,
email,
ccc.wm,
boston.gov
or
go
to
boston.gov
budget
testify
and
yeah,
I'm
just
really
grateful
for
everybody
for
participating
tonight
and
it's
obviously
been
a
long
budget
process
so
far
and
there's
another
few
weeks
yet
left
to
run.
But
public
testimony
is
really
important
to
all
of
us.
A
A
A
A
There's
kind
of
a
double
layer
here,
so
the
the
school
budget
in
its
detail
is
formally
voted
on
by
the
boston
school
committee,
which
is
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
then
the
the
request
that
comes
before
the
city
council
is
the
request
about
the
sort
of
total
top-line
number
that
gets
funded
by
the
council
for
the
budget
and
so
we're
not
technically
the
the
body
on
the
like
granular
detail
of
the
school
department.
But
we
take
the.
A
To
oversee
that
very
seriously,
and
that's
the
reason
why
we've
had
like
nine
hearings
with
them
through
this
process
and
to
your
point
I
think
that
we,
you
know
at
the
council.
Definitely
I
mean
there's
a
couple
of
fronts.
I
mean
on
the
question
of
partnerships.
I
think,
like
I
said
we
all
feel
like
there's,
obviously
a
total
lack
of
due
diligence
that
happened
with
the
with
the
vsac
contractor,
and
it
does
to
your
point,
raise
questions
about.
Are
we
doing
enough
due
diligence
on
all
of
our
partnership
contracts?
A
And
so
I
know
the
superintendent
has
made
new
commitments
on
that
front.
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
it's
on
the
council
to
be
a
via
check
on
that
and
be
checking
in
and
asking
the
department.
What
are
you
doing
on
this
front?
I
think
there's
been
also
a
question
about
the
federal
funding.
I
know
that
was
brought
up
by
sharon
tonight,
so
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
we,
you
know
were
also
with
that.
Technically,
not
the
appropriating
body.
A
That's
been
meeting,
it's
met
twice
so
far.
It's
meeting
again,
I
think
next
week,
but
but
at
the
same
time
for
the
council
to
authorize
this
bps
budget,
we
need
to
be
confident
that
they're
spending
their
federal
dollars
for
the
year
ahead,
wisely
and
well,
and
and
also
to
your
point
kimani
that
they're
spending
any
dollars
on
partnerships
in
a
way.
That's
that's
accountable
and
robust.
A
So
you
know,
I
think
the
the
superintendent's
obviously
submitted
to
us
a
number
of
ways
in
which
they're
gonna
be
vetting,
those
more
strenuously
going
forward.
I
think
it's
clear
that
the
vetting
was
not
up
to
snuff
previously
and
and
the
the
situation
that
you
and
other
vsac
members
were
subjected
to
is
pretty.
A
I
mean
you
know
infuriating
to
the
council,
and
so
I
think
I
think
it's.
It's
definitely
underscored
for
us.
The
need
to
be
attentive
to
those
things
and
and
to
really
question
where
we
are
on
partnership
fronts,
because
partnerships
can
be
great
where
they
add
value,
but
they
shouldn't
be
a
sort
of
another
space
that
public
funds
go
and
there
isn't
accountability.
A
A
A
A
That's
just
the
that's.
You
know
that,
and
that
has
to
do
with
right,
like
when
they're,
when
they're
negotiating,
like
unions,
are
also
making
their
judgments
and
the
reality
is.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
want
to
know
kind
of
who
they're
who
they've
got
as
a
as
a
partner
in
that
negotiation
for
the
next
four
years.
A
So
we
might,
we
might
reach
contract
agreements
in
the
next
few
months.
I
don't
know
because
the
council's
the
council's
role
is
that
contracts
get
brought
to
us
once
they're
approved
they
don't
get
brought
to
us
in
the
process
right,
so
it
has
to
be
the
olr
and
the
union
reaches
an
agreement
and
then
it
comes
out
for
ratification.
A
But
my
overall
sense
is
that
we're
not
likely
to
get
a
lot
of
those
ratified
and
come
into
us
before
the
election
in
the
fall.
So
what
that
means
from
a
budgeting
perspective
is
that
there's
a
10
million
dollar
collective
bargaining
reserve,
which
basically
means
like
we
don't
know
which
contracts
will
involve
what
percentage
increases,
etc.
So
there's
kind
of
a
10
million
dollar
pot.
A
L
Okay,
I'm
am
I
still
on
yeah
reason
why
I
asked
that
is
because
you
know
this.
This
new
budget
comes
out
july
1st
and,
to
my
understanding
you
know,
the
city
you
know
is
offering
you
know
direct
services
1.5,
depending
on
how
big
the
department
is
and
who
accepts
that
you
know
it
will
affect
the
2022
budget,
and
you
know
we're
we're
asking
as
a
city.
You
know
we're
asking
to
reallocate
funds
from
different
departments
to
make
sure
that
services
continue
to
grow.
L
Just
you
know,
assuming
that
we're
gonna,
you
know,
probably
be
at
that
72
million
or
maybe
a
little
a
little
higher,
even
though
they
hired
like
something
like
94
new
police
officers,
but
we're
still
short
another
400
officers
for
bpd
and
it
to
me
you
know
as
a
resident.
It
doesn't
seem
to
make
sense
that
the
overtime
budget
seems
to
increase
every
year
by
another
20
million
dollars
from
year
to
year,
and
this
body
approves,
you
know
already
set
over
time
and
then
we
go.
L
We
go
way
beyond
that
budget
that
we've
we've
put
money
aside
for
and
it
seems
like
it's
draining
other
departments.
You
know
bps
shouldn't
be
closing
schools,
especially
when
we
need
we
need
our
students
to
have.
You
know
the
opportunities
to
be
able
to
go
to
schools
within
their
communities
like
we're
not
asking.
I
live
in
hyde
park
and
the
children
in
hyde
park.
They
have
the
travel
of
charlestown,
that's
a
long
distance.
A
But
it
has
turned
into
a
dynamic
where
we
have
consistent
overtime
overruns
to
your
point
that
are
beyond,
what's
been
budgeted
for
and
that's
something
that
the
council,
the
council's,
been
pushing
on
considerably
in
the
past
year.
What
we've
achieved
is
a
decrease
in
the
overtime
budget,
but
not
the
kind
of
decrease
that
was
budgeted.
Last
year,
and
certainly
to
achieve
the
decreased
budgeted
this
year
would
be
substantial.
A
I
think
the
questions
about
whether
that
that
permission
to
go
over
over
time
should
be
unlimited.
It
should
be.
It
is
a
open
political
question,
and
I
also
think
that,
like
the
reality
is
you
need
police
department
or
like
leadership
that
considers
it
like
part
of
their
job,
to
actually
hit
the
budget
targets
and
and
in
my
personal
opinion,
that
involves
civilian,
fiscal
oversight
but
yeah,
I
think
that's
a
very
open
conversation
in
question.
A
I
would
say,
on
the
on
the
contract
front,
all
contracts
for
any
of
the
departments
that
are
out
including
police,
but
any
of
them
right
that
get
settled.
So
what
happens?
Is
the
administration
and
the
and
the
unions
are
gonna,
negotiate
them
at
the
table
and
then,
when
they
reach
what
they
think
is
a
provisional
agreement.
They
will
need
to
be
approved
at
the
council,
and
certainly
I
think
that
the
council
is-
and-
and
I
can
say
this
as
a
ways
and
means
chair-
because
all
contract
proposals
come
to
my
committee.
A
First
and
foremost,
you
know
the
council
is
very
committed
to
the
idea
that
settled
contracts
that
come
to
us
for
ratification
need
to
be
responsible
and
responsible
in
light
of
the
overall
city
budget
and
responsible,
in
light
of
exactly
the
trade-offs
that
you
mentioned,
the
question
of
you
know
any
given
city
dollar,
how,
where
is
it
going
to,
and
and
how
are
we
thinking
about
that
as
value
for
taxpayers?
And
so
I
will
just
say
that
I
think
we're
very
we're
very
mindful
of
that
issue.
So
I
appreciate
you
raising
it
tonight.
A
M
A
A
Have
a
good
night,
all
right,
great
and
all
right,
and
I
think
with
that,
we've
we've
gone
through
the
folks
who
are
here
to
testify
this
evening,
and
we've
also
played
the
videos
that
we
received.
So,
as
I
noted,
I
will
I'll
be
holding
the
room
open
for
another,
at
least
another
15
minutes
until
seven
o'clock.
So
if
you're
watching
at
home
feel
free
to
come,
join
us
one
more
time,
you
can
email,
cccwm
boston.gov
to
get
the
link
or
you
can
go
to
boston
budget
dash,
testify
and
then
I'll.
A
Give
you
the
way
to
sign
up
to
join
us
on
the
zoom,
so
I'll
be
waiting
here
for
at
least
another
15
minutes
just
to
make
sure
we
get
everybody
in.
But
in
the
meantime
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
again
ed
flynn,
matt
o'malley
and
julia
mejia
for
joining
me
this
evening
to
hear
from
the
members
of
the
public-
and
I
see,
we've
got
counselor
flynn.
If
you
want
to
say
any
words
feel
free.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
Council
block
council
block
just
wanted
to
ask
you
a
quick
question.
If
the
listening
public
is
watching
on
television,
and
they
don't
want
to
testify
in
video,
they
can
also
send
us
an
email.
Could
you
give
out
that
email
information
it
might
be,
might
be
helpful
to
some
of
the
residents
as
well.
A
Absolutely
sure
I'll
give
it
one
more
time,
so
it's
ccc
dot,
wm
boston.gov,
so
that's
wm
for
ways
and
means
so
meet
m,
as
in
mother.
So
ccc.wm
boston.gov
we'd
be
delighted
to
receive
any
written
testimony
from
anybody
and
we
do
share
that
with
the
whole
council.
So
we'll
go
into
the
public
record
on
the
budget.
B
A
Absolutely
you
know
we
considered
our
jobs
here
on
the
council
to
represent
you
in
this
budget
process
and
obviously
we
hear
a
deal
from
lots
of
groups
throughout
the
year
and
we
talk
to
many
of
our
constituents,
but
it's
always
valuable
to
us
to
hear
specifically
from
people
on
the
budget.
So
if
you
are
watching
the
budget
process-
and
you
feel
like
you
have
a
perspective
and
it
hasn't
been
represented-
that's
where
we
really
hope
that
you'll
reach
out
and
make
your
voice
heard.
A
A
A
Council
arroyo
welcome,
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
I
see
we've
got
leon
rivera
here
so
leon.
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
chance
to
testify
publicly
counselor
arroyo
before
leon
goes.
If
you
just
want
to
say
a
quick
word
of
welcome,
we
we've
had
councillor
flynn
and
mejia
and
o'malley
with
us,
and
we've
heard
from
a
number
of
members
of
the
public,
and
we
had
just
taken
a
quick
recess
because
we
had
run
out
of
folks
testifying.
N
I
was
at
a
community
meeting
and
I
just
got
out
to
come
to
this,
and
then
I
have
another
one
later,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
was
here
to
hear
community
input
and
I
will
actually
re-watch
all
of
this
hearing
to
ensure
that
I
don't
miss
any
community
input
in
terms
of
this
budget
and
what
they
want
this
budget
to
reflect
in
terms
of
our
values
as
a
city.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
everybody.
Who's
taking
the
time
to
participate.
A
O
Are
you
doing
counselor
leon
rivera
here
roxbury,
so
I
was
going
over
a
few
things
on
the
budget.
I
see
that
there
is
four
million
dollars
coming
into
the
boston
public
health
commission.
I
don't
see
a
breakdown
of
that,
so
I'm
wondering
do.
We
know
if
there's
any
of
that
money
going
towards
24-hour
outreach
efforts
when
it
comes
to
recovery
services,
specifically
for
for
mass
and
cash.
A
A
So
so
that's,
I
think
the
detail
answered
your
question.
We
can
chase
budget
for
and
and
circle
back
to
you
on,
but
but
I
appreciate
it
because
I
it's
such
a
it's
such
an
area
of
focus
for
the
council
and
for
many
others
right
now.
If
you
wanna,
if
you
wanna,
add
anything
else
on
on
the
priority
of
that
feel,
free.
O
O
A
I
think
we
can.
We
can
definitely
get
you
more
detail
on
that
and
since
we
have
you
signed
up
for
testimony
we'll
we
have
your
email
address,
so
we
can
get
that
to
you.
Thanks
appreciate
the
comments.
Great
awesome,
all
right,
so
thank
you
to
leon
for
joining
us
and
I
think
we'll
we'll
hold
it
open
for
a
few
more
minutes.
It's
seven
now,
but
I'll
all
just
hold
it
until
7
15
and
then
we'll
see
if
we've
got
anybody
else
joining
us
before
we
gavel
out.
A
A
We
really
do
read
all
those
comments
and
if
you're
still
watching
and
you
want
to
come
testify
last
chance-
the
url
is
boston.gov
budget
desk
testify
and
there's
a
way
there
to
sign
up
and
get
the
zoom
link
to
come.
Join
us
in
the
room
tonight.
So
I'll
I'll
just
continue
to
hold
this
space
open
until
7
15
and
then
we'll
see
whether
if
we
don't
have
anybody
we'll
adjourn
at
that
point,
so
thanks
so.