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Docket #0567 - Hearing Regarding Biannual Review of the Boston Employment Commission and Boston Residents Jobs Policy
A
I'm
city
councilor
lydia
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
tuesday
october
5th,
and
we
are
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
0567
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
biannual
review
of
the
boston,
employment,
commission
and
boston
residence
jobs
policy.
A
I
sponsored
this
matter
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
april
14
2021.
Under
the
terms
of
the
ordinance,
the
city
council
is
required
to
hold
a
biannual
review
of
the
policy.
The
last
hearing
was
held
on
april
21st
2021,
the
ordinance
establishes
standards
and
compliance
requirements
for
applicable
city-funded
projects
and
construction
projects,
where
a
percentage
of
the
workers
must
be
boston
residents,
people
of
color
and
women.
A
At
previous
hearings,
the
committee
discussed
the
city's
progress
in
achieving
the
objectives
of
their
ordinance,
as
well
as
programs
and
initiatives
implemented
by
the
city
to
improve
the
numbers.
The
committee
discussed
the
use
of
salesforce
as
a
data
platform,
the
csl
prep
course,
the
jobs
bank,
the
creation
of
hiring
a
full-time
sales
force
administrator
and
adding
construction
monitors
to
ensure
that
projects
are
in
compliance.
A
The
committee
also
discussed
the
city's
efforts
in
creating
pipelines.
Trades
potential
changes
in
state
law
and
the
legal
standards
that
are
used
when
awarding
contracts.
At
the
hearing
held
in
april,
the
committee
reviewed
investments
made
by
the
city
to
improve
and
ensure
compliance
with
the
brjp.
A
A
We
are
modifying
the
open
meeting
law
and
we're
having
this
hearing
be
a
zoom.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov,
citydesk,
council
desk
tv
and
on
xfinity
8,
rcn82
and
verizon
964..
It
will
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov.
A
If
you
would
like
to
offer
public
comments
and
have
not
signed
up,
you
may
do
so
with
please
email
christine.odonno
at
boston.gov,
participating
today
on
the
administration's
behalf,
is
chief
celina,
celina,
barrios,
milner
equity
and
inclusion
cabinet.
A
Mr
christopher
brown,
manager
of
boston,
residence,
job
policy,
andre
lima,
deputy
director
of
supplier,
diversity
and
boston,
residence,
job
policy
and
dominique
williams,
deputy
director
office
of
equity,
I
believe
we're
also
joined
by
travis
watson,
we'll
be
testifying
as
well,
and
if
I
miss
anybody
kim,
are
you
here
for
testimony
or
answering
questions.
A
Okay,
I
just
want
to
acknowledge:
we've
been
joined
by
councillor
mejia
and
councillor
braden,
councillor
flynn
as
well
and
counselor
bach,
and
I
think
I
have
all
the
counselors.
If
I've
missed
anybody,
my
apologies,
I'm
gonna
actually
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over.
I
believe
counselor.
A
In
order
of
arrival
we
have
counselor
mejia,
then
counselor
braden,
then
counselor
flynn
and
counselor
bach.
I
could
be
if
I'm
wrong
with
that.
Just
go
ahead
and
text
me,
but
we're
going
to
do
some
quick
opening
remarks
and
go
right
to
the
administration
and
then
after
the
administration,
travis
you'll
go
as
well:
okay,
okay,
counselor
mejia.
C
Good
morning,
madam
chair
and
good
morning,
everyone
and
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
an
update
on
how
we're
doing
with
our
boston
jobs
policy.
This
is
critically
important
and
I
know
you
all
agree.
We
need
to
have
jobs
available
and
and
have
our
local
people
in
austin
boston
employed
in
all
these
construction
jobs,
so
they
can
get
the
economic
benefits
of
all
this.
This
incredible
boom
we're
in.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
morning.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
D
I'm
also
interested
in
hearing
more
about
an
issue
that
I
continue
to
hear
over
the
last
several
years:
wage
theft
that
continues
to
happen
in
the
city
of
boston.
It
does
have
an
impact
on
this.
There
should
be
zero
tolerance
for
wage
theft
in
the
city
of
boston.
Thank
you,
council
edwards,
for
sharing
this
important
meeting.
E
Thank
you,
councillor,
edwards
and
I'll
apologize
in
advance
that
I
have
to
be
in
transit
for
part
of
this
meeting,
so
I
probably
I'll
be
listening
for
much
of
it,
but
just
wanted
to
echo
my
colleagues
and
say
you
know.
I
think
this
is
really
it's
an
economic
engine
that
the
city
presides
over,
and
so
it's
super
important
that
it
be
inclusive.
It's
super
important
to
counselor
flynn's
point
that
our
construction
jobs
be
good
jobs.
Would
they
be
safe?
E
That's
something
that
councils
focused
a
lot
on
that
they're
not
be
wage
theft.
You
know,
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
union
protections
that
we
pride
ourselves
on
in
boston
are
important,
and
so
I
guess
my
my
biggest
question
for
these
hearings
is
always
not
just
not
just
like
you
know,
looking
at
the
numbers
and
seeing
that
we
have
a
problem,
because
I
know
that
we
do
but
really
asking
like.
E
What's
the
pathway
that
makes
this
happen
that
changes
this
and
sort
of
really
drilling
down
on
what
would
move
the
needle
on
this
issue
so
looking
forward
to
hearing
on
that
front
as
well,
because
I
just
think
it's
it's
so
important
for
the
city's
shared
prospect,
prosperity
and
for
combating
inequality
that
we
figure
this
out
and
and
we've
to
do,
that
we've
got
to
get
down
below
the
top
line
number.
So
here
for
that,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
Councilman.
F
Here,
yes,
good
morning,
everyone
sorry
for
my
technical
glitch.
So
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
calling
this
hearing
and
as
the
chair
of
workforce
development,
ensuring
that
residents,
particularly
women
and
people
of
color,
have
access
to
good
paying
jobs
is
critical
to
building
wealth
and
capital
in
our
city.
F
F
I
just
don't
understand
how
we
are
still
having
the
this
conversation
and
every
quarter.
We
come
back
and
we
we
hear
the
same
thing
and
I
just
feel
like
at
some
point
something
has
to
give
and
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
about
the
accountability
piece,
because
people
are
just
getting
tired
of
the
lip
service
here,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
walk
out
of
this
with
some
commitments.
A
Thank
you.
Sorry.
We
will
turn
it
now
over
to
the
administration.
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
that
some
of
our
other
testimony,
the
boston
jobs
coalition
is
signed
on
to
speak
and
also,
let's
see,
I
think
we
also
have
as
participants
who
will
be
asked
to
speak
from
the
public,
dick
monks
as
well,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
chief
celina,
barrios,
milner
and
you'll
guide
us
through.
I
guess
all
the
administrative
testimony
correct
excellent.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
so
much
chair
edwards
for
holding
this
important
review
and
thank
you
to
counselors,
braden,
mejia,
bach
flynn
and
flynn
for
for
being
here.
I
really
appreciate
your
commitment
to
ensuring
that
boston
residents
have
access
to
quality
jobs
and
construction
in
their
backyard
through
city
funded
projects,
and
really
appreciate
your
partnership
on
this
work
and-
and
you
know,
share
a
lot
of
the
frustrations
and
hopes
for
this
program
as
well.
G
Since
we
last
met,
we've
been
working
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
in
further
detail
during
our
presentation,
but
we've
been
working
to
flesh
out
both
the
sanctions
policy
for
the
boston
employment
commission,
so
that
commissioners
can
issue
sanctions
at
the
at
the
back,
which
we
we
ran
into
sort
of
a
legal
hurdle
and
when
trying
to
implement
the
existing
ordinance.
G
So
we
are
working
on
that
and
we
are
also
working
on
a
policy
for
creating
a
list
of
of
contractors
that
are
out
of
compliance
with
the
with
the
policy
and
that's
what
you
call
the
the
record
of
non-compliance
so
that
city
buyers
can
review
that
list
prior
to
awarding
contracts
and
and
if
possible,
avoid
working
with
those
contractors.
G
Those
are
the
real
tools
that
that
the
ordinance
provides
and,
as
you
know,
we
we
talk
about
often
here
and
we
talk
about
with
our
commissioners
and
community
advocates
the
ordinance.
The
limitations
of
the
ordinance
are
that
we
have.
We
are
able
to
issue
sanctions
for
lack
of
compliance,
which
is
not
does
not
necessarily
correlate
with
the
numbers
themselves,
and
so
people
are
rightfully
frustrated
when
the
numbers
don't
move
up.
G
But
what
we
can
sanction
on
is
whether
contractors
are
acting
in
good
faith
and
submitting
weekly
reports
trying
to
find
workers
calling
the
union
halls
or
calling
other
sources
of
workers
for
non-union
projects
to
find
those
workers,
and
that's
what
that's,
what
we
sort
of
grade
them
on
right.
That's
what
we
can
sanction
them
on,
and
I
think
that
is
a
limitation.
G
When
you
look
at
the
numbers,
you
can
have
someone
that's
in
great
compliance,
but
has
terrible
numbers,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
a
attention
of
the
policy-
that's
that's
really
hard
for
us
continuously
hard
for
us
to
manage
so
the
other
piece
that
that
I
wanted
to
flag
for
you
we're
moving
all
of
our
projects
now
onto
salesforce.
G
We
have
a
great
contractor
on
board
and
this
will
really
ease,
not
just
our
ability
to
monitor
projects
in
real
time,
but
also
the
ability
of
commissioners,
counselors
and
and
members
of
the
public
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
projects
are
doing
so.
We
are
we're
now
moving
all
new
projects
onto
salesforce
and
we
have
andre
lima
here
if
there's
questions
later
about
the
salesforce
platform
itself.
G
So
that's
you
know
we're
really
looking
forward
to
to
working
with
you
all
on
on
really
bringing
the
spirit
of
this
ordinance
to
to
life,
not
just
the
letter
of
the
ordinance
which
we're
working
on
dutifully
every
day.
So
today,
I'll
be
sharing
just
some
updates
and
chris
brown
will
be
sharing
the
the
latest
numbers
and
then
we
will
turn
it
over
to
chair
watson
to
talk
about
the
boston,
employment
commission.
G
G
I
Excellent
thanks
chief
and
good
morning,
council,
so
we're
looking
at
the
last
six
months,
so
that
would
be
april
20
2021.
Up
until
september
2021.
we've
had
115
active
projects.
27
of
those
projects
are
private
projects.
Those
projects
are
over
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet.
Most
of
those
projects
are
located,
downtown
boston
and
the
seaport
area.
We've
had
88
city
of
boston
projects.
Those
are
projects
that
are
funded
entirely
by
the
city
are
partially
by
the
city.
I
So,
with
the
public
facilities
department,
we've
had
31
projects,
that's
a
department
that
deals
with
city
properties,
parks
and
recreation,
city
parks,
seven,
there's,
seven
projects,
public
works
that
would
be
streets,
roads,
sidewalks
22
projects
and
the
department
of
neighborhood
development,
the
housing,
affordable,
housing
division.
We
had
28
projects
in
regards
to
the
numbers.
I
As
you
know,
we
have
a
new
ordinance
that
was
established
in
2017,
and
most
of
the
projects
that
we
have
in
the
department
now
are
are
all
under
the
new
ordinance.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
work
hours
for
the
new
ordinance
projects,
as
opposed
to
all
projects
which
would
include
new
and
old
ordinance,
you
can
see
that
the
hours
are
are
almost
meeting
up.
I
I
Some
projects
are
still
under
the
old
ordnance
because
they,
the
projects,
were
grandfathered
in
before
the
new
ordinance
was
signed,
but
95
percent
of
the
projects
that
we
have
now
are
under
the
new
ordinance
and
you
can
take
a
look
at
the
numbers
for
the
new
ordinance
projects,
we're
at
27,
boston,
resident,
40,
people
of
color
7
female,
and
then
we
have
the
percentages
for
the
new
and
old
projects
combined
at
26
percent
resident
38
people
of
color
and
7
women.
I
And
this
gives
you
a
breakdown
of
active
projects
by
neighborhood.
As
you
can
see,
I'm
not
gonna
go
through
every
one
of
them,
but
you
can
take
a
look
at
all
the
different
projects
and
all
within
the
different
neighborhoods
of
boston,
the
last
column
that
says
various
locations
that
would
be
like.
I
Sometimes
you
might
have
a
contract
for
public
works
and
it
would
include
various
streets,
for
example,
they
would
be
performing
work
on
bluehill
ave
and
at
the
same
time
the
contract
would
also
be
performing
work
say
on
cummings
highway,
so
a
project
under
those
circumstances
would
be
listed
as
various
pro
various
locations,
and
this
gives
you
a
breakdown
of
the
city
projects.
We
have
again.
I
We
have
four
different
city
departments,
the
neighborhood
development
department
that
that's
the
department
that
always
have
has
the
most
the
out
work
hours
and,
in
this
case,
359
000
hours,
30
residents,
68
people
of
color,
seven
percent
women,
and
then
you
have
public
facilities
in
second
place:
160
000
hours,
35
percent,
resident
43
people
of
color,
seven
percent
women,
and
then
you
have
the
public
works
at
24,
30
and
three
in
parks.
G
Thanks
so
much
chris
and
I'll
just
quickly
go
over
some
of
the
work
of
the
jobs
bank
over
the
since
we
last
met,
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
G
It
it
looks
like
the
this
slide.
Deck
is
out
of
date,
I'll
just
give
an
update
from
our
jobs
bank
coordinator
that
we're
planning
a
job
fair
from
on
october
13th
next
week
from
four
to
six
pm.
G
G
And
I'll
just
do
a
quick
update
before
I
turn
it
over
to
chair
watson,
so
we
have
stood
up
as
we
discussed
in
our
last
hearing,
the
a
working
group
to
implement
a
back
sanctions
policy.
The
policy
takes
what's
in
the
ordinance
and
creates
an
official
commission
policy
and
that
that's
what
we
need
to
have
in
place
so
that
when
we
issue
sanctions,
there's
clears
clear
appeals,
processes
in
place
and
a
clear
criteria
for
how
sanctions
are
issued
and
the
the
magnitude
of
those
sanctions.
G
G
Is
that
the
way
the
ordinance
is
written,
we're
able
to
issue
fines
up
to
300
in
a
lot
of
cases,
but
that
up
to
gives
us
the
room
to
actually
have
some
determination
as
to
what
fine
is
appropriate
and
so
what's
been
raised
by
by
members
of
our
working
group?
Is
that,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
smaller
project
or
a
smaller
contractor,
should
they
bear
the
same
burden
that
a
large
contractor
does
when
they're
out
of
compliance?
G
If
it's
a
first-time
offense
versus
a
repeated
his
you
know,
history
repeating
itself
over
and
over.
If
people
are
meeting
most
of
the
goals
right,
if
they're
hiring
local
workers,
they're
hiring
people
of
color
but
they're
late
on
sending
their
paperwork
in,
are
we
gonna
hit
them
with
the
ten
thousand
dollar?
Fine
right?
So
these
are
the
types
of
determinations
that
it
seems
really
clear-cut.
But
when
you
get
into
the
actual
projects
that
we
review,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
really
clear
objective
criteria
that
are
applied
uniformly
across
projects.
G
So
that's
really
the
the
meat
of
the
conversation
and
we
hope
to
have
another
working
group
meeting
and
ambitiously
hope
to
vote
on
it
in
this
month's
boston,
employment,
commission,
but
depending
on
the
working
group,
it
might
be
in
the
next
boston
employment
commission.
Once
the
policy
is
finalized,
we
present
it
to
the
full
commission
and
they
then
take
a
vote
on
it
and
one
if
they,
if
they
approve
it,
then
that
becomes
the
new
policy
of
the
beck
and
now
turn
it
over
to
chair
watson
for
his
testimony.
J
J
J
However,
after
about
a
week
or
so
of
work,
all
the
black
guys
were
laid
off
and
all
the
french
canadians
were
kept
remembers
leo
fletcher
a
carpenter
on
the
job,
somebody
from
out
of
our
city,
even
out
of
our
country,
getting
paid
to
do
work
that
I
could
do
in
my
community.
End
quote
frustrated
by
the
lack
of
opportunity.
J
Fletch
and
other
black
workers
created
the
united
community
construction
workers
or
uccw
to
plan
ways
to
get
construction
jobs
in
their
neighborhoods.
One
of
their
primary
strategies
was
construction
site
protests,
former
black
construction
worker,
omar
cannon.
Recalls
that
quote,
we
had
to
go
to
the
point
of
production,
stop
the
job
and
negotiate
right
on
the
spot.
J
We
even
had
people
go
on
the
job,
pick
up
tools
and
start
going
to
work
without
getting
paid.
Some
guys
actually
got
hired
like
that.
What
worked
best
on
any
job
that
came
into
this
community
was
to
iron
out
an
agreement
before
they
broke
ground.
They
were
promised
to
take
a
certain
amount
of
people
through
the
uccw
end
quote.
J
The
burp
program
failed
to
create
anywhere
close
to
the
kind
of
impact
the
federal
government
was
looking
to
achieve.
As
a
result.
In
1970,
they
invested
close
to
seven
hundred
thousand
in
a
new
program
called
the
hometown
plan,
which
prompts
to
bring
two
thousand
people
of
color
into
union
building
trades
over
five
years,
but,
like
burp,
the
hometown
plan
failed
to
meet
its
hiring
targets
in
response.
J
J
When
cooler
heads
prevailed,
chuck
turner
and
his
allies
went
back
to
the
drawing
board.
They
tried
to
differentiate
between
white
workers.
Looking
for
food
on
the
table
and
union
leaders
in
union
leadership
and
policies
that
kept
black
people
from
becoming
union
members,
they
formed
the
boston
jobs
coalition.
J
According
to
chuck
quote,
we
saw
the
only
thing
that
would
save
affirmative
action
in
the
trades
was
an
alliance
with
white
boston
residents
to
break
the
political
ties
that
the
suburban
based
unions
had
with
the
city
council.
End
quote
in
1983
mayor
white
established
an
ordinance
establishing
their
boston
residence
jobs
policy
at
that
time,
calling
for
fifty
percent
of
city
funded
construction
project
hours
going
to
residence,
25
to
minorities
and
10
to
women.
J
J
A
Thank
you
incredible
testimony
powerful
and
I
hope
it
orients
our
moral
compass
to
the
actual
goals
and
we
remember
who's,
lived
and
died
and
trying
to
get
those
done.
I
really
appreciate
you
also
bringing
up
chuck
chuck
turner's
name
travis,
and
I
know
I
could
see
you
physically.
This
was
a
long
time
coming.
A
G
I
also
wanted
to
jump
in
chair
edwards
just
to
thank
travis
watson
for
his
incredible
service
as
chair
for
the
past
six
years
and
as
commissioner
under
three
different
administrations.
G
At
this
point,
really
your
experience
and
expertise
and
very
strong
moral
compass
have
really
helped
guide
our
work,
and
we
hope
that
we
can
continue
to
reach
out
to
you
as
an
expert,
but
also
respect
you
stepping
back
into
all
of
your
other
responsibilities
that
you
have.
So.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
I
would
like
to
do
the
same.
I
would
like
to
thank
travis.
I
appreciate
your
your
passion
for
making
sure
that
people
of
color,
boss
and
residents
and
women
are
working
on
these
projects
and
to
you
know
it's
been
an
honor
for
me
to
work
with
you.
I
know
that
you
care
about
the
program.
I
know
that
you
care
about
the
city
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
support
that
you've
been
able
to
provide.
J
Thank
you
chris,
and
I
I
apologize
to
the
council.
I
did
not
mean
to
take
us
off
course
in
in
this
way
whatsoever.
That
was
not
my
intention.
A
On
the
on
the
contrary,
I
don't
know
why
my
camera's
sideways
all
of
a
sudden,
but
on
the
contrary,
you
actually,
if
at
anything
you
set
us
on
the
right
course
again
you
remind
us
where
we
came
from
and
where
we
need
to
go
and
our
commitments
and
why
we
need
to
fight
so
hard
to
keep
them
going.
A
So
I
can
you
know
what,
because
we
have
the
boston
jobs
coalition,
also
who
I
think
it
would
be
wonderful
actually
at
this
point,
to
bring
them
into
the
conversation,
because
they
were
there
in
many
cases,
along
with
this
movement
and
to
see
if
any
of
the
boston
coalition
boston
jobs
coalition.
A
No,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
bring
in
the
jobs
coalition
and
dick
montz
for
their
testimony
and
then
we'll
do
a
round
of
questions
with
this
with
the
counselors.
A
So
we
can
bring
them
in,
as
I
think
that's,
okay,
good
and
I
think
angela
might
be
with
the
the
angel,
yeah
excellent
and
then
also
dick
monks,
so
they
should
all
be
set
to
go.
B
Good
morning,
can
everyone
hear
me
yes,
okay,
good
morning,
I
first
would
like
to
thank
mr
travis
watson
for
that
wonderful
delivery,
that
historic
presentation
of
where
we
came
from,
and
I
am
going
to
say
today
we
still
are
many
changes-
has
not
taking
place
at
all,
but
your
passion
is
so
revealing.
This
is
not
the
first
time
I've
heard
you
speak,
but
oh
my
gosh.
B
B
Why
is
this
such
a
dissension
that
there's
this
great
divide
between
the
halves
and
they
have
not?
That
is
so
shameful
in
a
city,
that's
rich!
I
thank
you.
I
thank
you.
I
thank
you
now
I
was
going
to
give
a
little
history,
but
after
you
just
after
that,
I
need
not
give
a
history
of
where
we
came
from
what
chuck
turner
and
those
before
him
have
done.
But
what
I
want
to
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
heard
selena
speak
about
acting
in
good
faith.
B
Acting
in
good
faith
is
open
to
interpretation.
Exactly
what
does
that
mean?
Because
if
I
write
a
grant,
I
write
a
proposal,
I'm
building
a
development,
a
project.
What
have
you
it's
my
interpretation
of
good
faith,
whether
I
sent
out
a
letter
I
pound,
what
I
pound
the
pavement,
whether
I
called
all
the
community
organizations
in
in
in
the
area,
whatever
I
do,
how
little
or
large
that's
my
interpretation
of
good
faith.
B
B
I
understand
that
there
is
hesitation
and
sanction.
I
also
understand
that
there
is
there's
no
one
size
fit
all,
but
why
don't
we
have
a
chart
that
shows
you
for
lack
of
better
words
right
now.
I'm
just
gonna
say
the
bad
players,
you
know
those
whose
numbers
don't
go
up,
those
those
whose
numbers
don't
change.
Why
are
they
not
called
in
or
at
the
table
to
say?
Okay,
what
is
your
practice?
B
We
can't
keep
doing
the
same
thing
the
same
way
and
expect
in
it
and
expect
something
different,
these
our
residents
in
roxbury
greater
roxbury.
This
is
their.
These
are
the
lives
that
we
are
playing
with,
and
I
say
playing
with,
because
this
is
just
the
spirit
of
the
letter.
This
is
just
words
on
paper,
they're
not
being
practiced
and
that's
what
has
to
change.
B
So
my
question
is:
can
we
get
data
showing
the
history
of
the
various
developers
doing
work
in
greater
roxbury
and
I
say
greater
roxbury
because
we
know
rocks
where
we
get
has
gotten
divided
with
the
o2121
and
02119
and
all
of
that,
but
greater
rockstar?
What
we
know
to
be
roxbury
historically,
because
that's
the
only
way
we
are
going
to
truthfully
understand
what's
going
on.
We
need
to
see
that
diagram
in
front
of
us
and
that
that's
that's
my
question.
B
Moving
forward
the
gentleman
I'm
sorry,
I
do
not
remember
your
name,
sir
christopher,
I
believe,
is
his
name-
spoke
of
a
new
ordinance,
I'm
a
little
confused.
What's
the
new
ordinance
versus
the
old
ordinance.
So
if
someone
could
speak
to
that,
that
would
be
very
helpful
and,
as
it
relates
to
those
who
are
invited
to
the
working
group
for
a
revised
policy,
I
hope
boston
jobs
coalition
is
going
to
be
at
that
table
and
with
that
I
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity.
A
K
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
I
wasn't
really-
and
I
hadn't
prepared
a
testimony
today,
but
I'm
not
going
to
give
up
an
opportunity
to
say
a
few
words
first,
I
want
to
echo
angela's
words
and
and
congratulations
to
travis.
K
I
my
experience
with
travis
is
that
he's
been
a
reliable
and
sturdy
voice
in
terms
of
not
losing
the
overall
mission
of
the
bijp,
and
it
takes
someone
with
some
strength
and
courage
to
carry
on
for
six
years,
and
he
sees
these
numbers
and
has
seen
these
numbers
not
move
very
much,
and
yet
he
continued
to
all
the
way
through
be
a
voice,
for
we
can
do
it.
We
can
do
it
and
so
travis
thanks
a
lot.
K
We've
had
some
personal
words
already,
but
I
just
really
want
to
thank
you
for
for
your
work
during
your
tenure.
Thank
you.
So
much
dave,
it's
very
meaningful
good
and
I
just
have
a
couple
points.
I
guess
I
made
from
hearing
the
presentation
this
morning.
K
I'd
like
to
ask
chris,
maybe
next
time,
I'm
not
looking
to
go
back
today,
but
when
we
give
the
numbers
for
the
last
six
months,
it
might
be
helpful
for
those
of
us
who
want
the
greatest
note,
keepers
or
record
finders,
because
I
know
I
wrote
it
down
six
months
ago,
but
to
be
able
to
present
what
the
numbers
were
in
april
and
what
they
are
in
october,
that
that
would
give
a
visual
as
to
just
what
has
happened
and
what
hasn't
happened.
And
I
I
am
looking
forward
to
working
on
the
working
group.
K
I
have
been
participating
in
those
meetings
and
I
will
be
there
tomorrow
for
the
next
working
group
session,
and
I
guess
I
think
I
want
to
end
with
because
of
the
history
we
learned
today
and
or
or
at
least
heard
again
today
about
the
beginning
days
and
the
political
decision
to
expand
the
original
bijp
plan
to
include
boston
residents
as
well
as
women.
And,
yes,
it
was
the
tactical
decision
that
needed
to
unite
the
political
forces
necessary
to
succeed.
K
But
it's
also
very
interesting,
and
you
know,
working
alongside
chuck
turner
in
his
last
days.
He
was
as
active
as
he
was
in
in
the
70s
and
the
80s
as
he
was
in
the
2020s,
and
he
was-
and
he
was
you
know-
travis
knows
his
first
hand
from
being
in
meetings
with
him.
He
was
relentless
in
pushing
for
the
changes
from
the
unions,
which
I
think
we've
had
some
awareness
happening
there.
K
But-
and
there
are
factors
about
people
moving
out
of
the
city
about
you-
know
the
the
the
desire
by
so
many
young
people
to
want
to
work
in
front
of
a
computer
screen
all
day
as
opposed
to
wielding
a
hammer.
I
don't
quite
get
that
myself,
but
nonetheless
chuck
saw
that
as
an
important
piece
to
work
on
just
as
much
as
continuing
to
push
for
the
better
numbers
and
communities
of
color
and
women.
So
with
that,
I
think
I
made
one
other
note.
No,
that's
it
all
right.
K
I
just
want
to
again
thanks
travis
thank
this
committee,
I'm
curious
to
see
who
will
be
the
next
chair
of
the
if
that
hasn't
been
decided
yet
I'll,
be
curious
to
see,
but
the
struggle
continues
very
good.
Thank
you.
A
J
Please
this
is
outside
of
my
pay
grade
and
absolutely
not
my
call,
but
I
can't
really
get
in
much
trouble
because
I'm
resigning,
my
post,
totally
understand
again.
This
is
not
my
decision,
but
I
want
to
just
go
on
record
at
noting
that
I
strongly
encourage
whatever
administration
is
empowered
to
select
the
next
chair
that
they
strongly
consider
a
woman
for
the
position.
J
I
think
it's
time
for
a
fresh
set
of
ideas.
The
commission,
as
far
as
I
know,
has
been
shared
by
a
male
since
its
inception.
Again,
I
just
think
it's
time
for
some
fresh
idea,
some
fresh
perspectives
and
I
just
strongly
encourage
the
next
administration
to
consider
a
woman,
particularly
a
woman
of
color.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
well
feel
free
to
just
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
be
we'll
be
ready.
A
I'm
just
gonna
we're
just
gonna
give
you
the
mic
back
whenever
you
you,
you
need
it.
Okay,
we're
gonna
turn
now
over
to
counselors
for
an
order
of
arrival.
I
think
counselor
mejia,
then
councilor
braden,
councillor
flynn
and
councillor
bach.
F
Thank
you,
counselor
edwards,
incredibly
encouraged
by
not
just
the
passion
but
the
the
steadfast
conviction
to
moving
the
conversation
beyond
the
conversation
here
in
terms
of
accountability.
I
think
we
are
well
beyond
that,
but
I
just
have
a
few
questions
for
the
administration.
F
This,
the
stats
on
the
boston.gov
website
are
still
from
september
2020,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
of
how
often
do
we
publish
compliance
data
and
when
they'll
be
refreshed
and
then
the
last
time
we
held
this
hearing,
I
brought
up
a
contractor
who
routinely
disobeys
the
br
jp
and
fails
on
nearly
every
compliance
measure
that
we
have
put
in
place.
This
contractor
is
mario
susie
and
sons.
I
checked
the
brjp
website
and
found
that,
as
of
last
month,
they're
still
being
contracted
through
the
city.
F
Can
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
more
about
the
enforcement
mechanisms
that
you
are
planning
to
put
in
place
and
how
many
times
does
a
contractor
have
to
break
the
rules
before
they
are
put
on
notice?
What
are
what
good
is
our
be
our
jp
policy
if
we
keep
on
letting
it
fall
through
the
cracks
and
then,
lastly,
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
the
city
is
partnering
with
local
unions,
specifically
when
it
comes
to
compliance
around
the
the
rjp.
G
So
I'll
take
part
of
your
questions
and
then
turn
it
over
to
chris
brown.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
that
you're
looking
at
the
right
data
that
we
have
a
a
year
in
review
that
that
will
update
at
the
end
of
this
year.
But
we
also
have
the
link
to
the
compliance
report,
which
should
take
you
to
the
live
data,
that's
being
pulled
from
the
x
currently
accessed
and
soon
to
be
salesforce
database.
G
So
I'll,
we'll
work
with
your
office
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
right
that
you
have
the
current
data
and
then
I
don't
know
andre
if
they,
if
they
sort
of
push
it
on.
I
know
counselor
may
have
said
it
was
last
updated
in
september.
So
I
don't
know
if
they
might
need
to
do
if
they
have
to
do
manual
pushes
because
it
is
access.
G
So
we'll
get
you
we'll
make
sure
that
my
my
understanding
is
that
it's
live
data,
but
I
don't
know
if
they
have
to
do
you
know
regular
pushes
do
you
have
a
quick
answer
on
that
andre
on
the
analyzer.
H
I
don't,
but
I
can
certainly
check
in
with
the.
I
can
certainly
check
in
with
the
analytics
team
to
make
sure
that
if,
if
I'm
both
that,
if
there
hasn't
been
a
push
recently,
that
that's
performed
but
also
to
make
sure
that
a
recurring
push
is,
is
just
set
up,
because
that's
something
that
should
just
happen
automatically.
F
And
I
just
want
to
want
to
just
quickly
just
add
that
the
compliance
data
by
project
still
goes
to
the
link
for
september
2020.
So
maybe
that
is
just
an
oversight,
and
this
is
the
link
that
the
people
are
presented
with.
So
I
just
want
to
just
flag
that,
for
you
all
thank.
G
You
andre
we'll
definitely
track
that
down
I'll
turn
it
over
to
chris
to
talk
specifically
about
mario
susie
and
sons,
and
then
to
your
other
question.
We
do
partner
with
the
unions.
It's
still
to
be
honest,
a
project
that
our
jobs
bank
coordinators,
getting
off
the
ground
but
to
have
regularly
regular
job,
fair,
not
job
fairs,
but
kind
of
enrollment
fairs.
We
do
hear
some
unions
are
proactive
about
telling
us
you
know
we
don't
currently
have
any
resident
workers.
We
will
take
apprentices.
G
We
actually
just
got
an
email
like
that
last
week,
but
we
need
to
tighten
up
that
communication
so
that
when
we
find
a
resident
that's
interested
in
interested
in
joining
a
union,
we
can
just
send
them
their
way
and
they
don't
tell
them.
Oh
you
have
to
wait
another
year
or
or
whatever
the
process
is
so
those
are
relationships
that
we're
still
forming
and
strengthening.
G
We
have
had
a
couple
of
successful
fairs
where
people
were
able
to
find
out
about
the
different
unions,
the
different
requirements
and
join
if,
if
they
were
ready
or
or
get
support
through
through
other
programs
like
building
pathways
or
operation
exit,
and
so
but
I
think
we
need
to
make
that
something
more
regular
and
it's
something
we're
working
with
our
jobs
bank
coordinator
on,
and
I
think
that
that
those
strengthening
that
communication
from
the
unions
is
really
important
in
terms
of
getting
people
into
these
pipelines
for
for
these
projects.
G
So
it's
something
that
we
would
love
to
work
with
you
on
and
anyone
else
here
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
chris.
To
to
just
add,
to
anything
I've
said
and
and
to
the
specific
question
about
mario
susie
and
son.
F
And
before
you
go
to
chris,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
follow
up
on
something
you
just
mentioned
that
I'm
curious.
It's
two
things
one
is
you
know.
I've
also
heard
from
folks
specifically
our
returning
citizens
right
and
creating
meaningful
pathways
for
them
to
be
gainfully
employed,
and
I'm
just
curious
what
efforts
you
know
we
can
strengthen
to
to
ensure
that
our
returning
citizens
have
viable
employment
opportunities
and
then
accountability
with
the
unions.
Too.
F
I
mean
everybody
plays
a
role
in
this
process
in
terms
of
kind
of
making
sure
that
we
are
fulfilling
our
our
requirements
and
I'm
just
curious
what,
if
anything,
on
the
compliance
end
when
it's
not
just
the
contractors,
but
it's
also
the
unions
that
are
not
doing
their
fair
share
to
to
ensure
that
they're
doing
their
dual
diligence
to
hire
people
of
color
and
boston
residents,
so
just
curious
about
kind
of
what
that
accountability
and
compliance
looks
like.
And
how
are
you
holding
unions
accountable
to
that
work
as
well.
G
Yeah-
and
I
you
know,
I
think
this
is
something
that
the
the
lack
of
transparency
is
really
a
challenge,
because
without
knowing
you
know
what
the
pool
is
it's
the
same
thing.
We
have
to
do
the
availability
study
for
the
city
for
on
contracting,
like
who's
actually
out
there.
G
I
feel
like
whenever
I
reach
out
to
the
unions
they're
like,
if
you
have
anyone,
send
them
our
way,
but
I'd
like
to
actually
put
that
into
practice,
and
so
the
more
workers
that
we
can
find
that
want
to
join
a
specific
union
or-
or
maybe
they
don't
even
know
a
specific
union.
But
they
want
to
pursue
a
specific
type
of
work.
G
We
will
really
push
them
and
see.
You
know,
that's
that's
sort
of
the
trial
to
see
if
the
system
is
working,
but
obviously
there's
more
systemic
approaches
where
we
need
to
better
understand
which
trades
have
available
workers
which
ones
don't
and
how
to
how
to
diversify
those
pipelines.
So
I
think
we
need
to
do
both
kind
of
the
systemic
approach,
but
also
bring
the
workers
to
our
jobs
bank.
So
we
can
really
proactively
try
to
get
them
into
the
unions
or
other
work
opportunities.
F
And
before
my
time
goes
up,
I
know
that
chris
is
going
to
answer
the
last
question,
but
I
just
want
to
also
know
that
you
know
we
have
madison
park,
which
is
supposed
to
be
the
gem
here
and
I
I
think
the
best
pipeline
and
and
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
put
literally
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
to
to
resolve
this
issue,
and
I
just
feel
like
we
we
keep
talking
about
it.
But
there
are
some
programs
that
I
just
don't
understand
the
the.
F
Why
and
I'm
so
sad
that
travis
is
going
to
be
leaving
us,
because
you
know
I've
learned
so
much
from
you
travis
in
these
hearings
and
so
really
do
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done,
and
I
I
just
think
that
accountability
and
transparency
is
going
to
be
key,
but
more
political
will
and
making
sure
that
that
we're
being
more
forceful,
if
you
will
in
in
the
enforcement
piece
of
it.
But
I
I
won't.
I
won't
take
up
too
much
of
my
own
time
here.
F
I
just
want
to
just
give
chris
an
opportunity
to
answer
the
question
around
the
susie
folks
and
and
what's
up
with
them.
I
Okay,
thank
you,
counselor.
Actually,
mario
susie
we've
been
working
with
mark
mario
susie
over
the
last
10
years
and
the
numbers
have
increased.
I
can
send
you
the
data
for
those
that
don't
know.
Mario
susie
is
a
public
works,
contractor
sidewalks
streets
and
the
numbers
have
increased.
I
can
send
you
the
data
after
the
hearing
and
we've
been
working
with
mario
susie
on
their
workforce,
and
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit.
I
You
had
mentioned
madison
park
and
what
I'm
seeing
is
we
need
to
get
people
trained
and
madison
park
needs
to
be
stood
up
and
also
I'm
going
to
go
a
little
bit
further.
I
think
we
need
to
build
a
training
facility
in
boston,
meaning
we
need
other
towns
have
that
they
have
training
trade
schools
right
and
if
someone
wants
to
get
a
trade
right
now
from
boston,
they
have
to
go
outside
of
boston.
I
Boston
does
not
have
a
trade
school,
and
this
is
just
coming
from
me.
In
my
opinion,
not
only
do
we
need
to
stand
up
madison
park,
but
we
need
to
invest
in
building
a
trade
school.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lack
of
skills,
a
person
can't
just
you
know,
wait.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
unemployment
right,
but
a
person
needs
to
be
trained
before
they
can
work
on
these
job
sites.
They're
not
going
to
just
a
contract
is
not
going
to
hire
a
person
just
put
them
on
a
backhoe.
I
A
Councilman
here
are
you
okay?
What
movement
or
did
you
have.
F
I
I
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
space.
I
feel
like
I'm.
I've
used
my
seven
minutes.
I
I
I'm
good.
Thank
you.
Counselor
edwards.
A
If
you
have
any
more
we'll
come
back,
but
I'm
just
going
to
go
to
counselor
braden,
then
counselor
flynn
is
on
and
counselor
bach.
C
C
I
think
the
last
time
we
had
this
hearing,
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
pipeline
and
it's
one
of
my
one
of
my
goals
is
to
really
ensure
that
our
high
schools-
we
have
brighton
high
out
here
in
austin
brighton,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
encouraging
young
people
to
take
a
broad
view
of
their
career
paths
and
to
have
career
path,
opportunities
that
would
lead
them
into
the
trades
and
into
these
good,
paying
jobs
and
in
and
that
they
are
good
paying
jobs
that
will
allow
them
to
be
able
to
stay
in
the
city
and
it's
really
really
critically
important.
C
The
other
thing
I
do
when
we
have
when
we
are
working
with
developers
to
work
on
and
the
bpda
to
develop
corporation
agreements,
we
do
have
them,
make
a
commitment
to
the
boston,
job
resident
jobs
policy
in
their
cooperation
agreements.
Again.
The
question
for
me
is:
are
we
actually
monitoring
those
and
are?
Is
it
not?
Is
it
actually
being
enforced?
You
know,
are
they
delivering
on
that
commitment
in
the
cooperation
agreement
to
to
do
that?
C
Maybe
a
while
ago
now,
maybe
in
the
spring,
they
did
a
presentation
about
their
academy,
which
also
you
know
it's
madison
park
is
in
boston,
public,
school
tech
and
vocational
school.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
that's
that
that
that
that's
that
status
and
and
see
does
it
doesn't
need
to
transition
into
be
a
full-blown
trade
school,
and
I
I
I
think
that
you
know
the
excuse
that
we
haven't
got
an
adequate
pipeline
is,
is
old.
C
We
have
to
really
we
have
to
really
be
much
more
aggressive
and
and
proactive
and
ensuring
that
all
of
our
young
people
who
want
to
take
this
career
path
and
even
to
consider
it
as
a
career
path
and
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
look
that
and
and
try
out
experience
you
know
shop
and
and
get
exposure
to
those
skills
so
that
they
would
consider
a
job
in
the
trades
as
a
possible
career
path.
So
you
know
I
really
applaud
all
the
great
work.
C
I
think
we
have
a
lot
to
do
and
I
have
to
give
a
shout
out
to
I'm
I'm
so
delighted
that
this
this
policy
includes
women,
because
you
know
I
think
under-representation
of
women
in
this
in
this
space
is,
as
is
historic,
and
I'm
glad
that
that's
that
that's
considered
as
an
important
piece
of
the
the
puzzle
and
and
to
bring
women
into
the
trades
is
hugely
important.
So
you
know,
I
think,
the
madison
park
issue.
C
We
just
need
to
keep
hammering
on
that
and
and
see
if
we
can
really
develop
a
robust
pipeline.
Those
are
I'd
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
those.
You
know:
how
are
we
making
any
progress
and
and
what
what
else?
What
else
do
we
need
to
do?
We
need
to
start
pushing
learning
from
best
practices
and
other
places
that
have
worked
and
and
see
how
we
can
get
past
this
pipeline
issue,
because
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
valid
excuse
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
I
didn't
know
if
anyone
wanted
to
talk
about
the
pipeline,
specifically
the
issue
and
then
we'll
go
on
to
counselor
flynn.
G
Chris,
I
know
that
that's
a
passion
of
yours,
if
you
want
to
respond
to
counselor
braden
ours,
passion
of
ours
but
you're
more
the
expert
on
it.
I
You
know,
like
I
mentioned
previously.
I
just
think
that
skills
are
important,
whether
it's
in
construction
or
whether
you
want
to
be
accountant
right
now.
It's
a
you
know,
it's
a
there's.
Some
risk
involved
with,
let's
just
say,
non-union,
contractors
and
most
of
the
individuals
that
we're
getting
in
a
jobs
bank
are
laborers,
95
of
them.
I
They're,
unskilled
workers,
they're
they're
laborers,
and
I
just
think
that
skills
are
important
and
if
we
could
stand
up
madison
park,
if
we
could,
you
know,
get
a
trade
school
going
not
only
for
high
school
individuals
but
from
the
ages
of
18
to
say,
30
in
the
boston
area,
maybe
partnering
with
the
unions
and
and
also
it
would
give
the
non-union
contractors
a
resource
to
go
to
to
get.
I
I
That
would
be
a
person
that
maybe
that
non-union
company
would,
you
know,
give
a
shot
to.
So
I
just
think
training,
skills
and
right
now
you
have
to
go
outside
of
boston
to
to
go
to
a
trade
school.
We
we
don't
have
a
trade
school
in
boston
and
I
think
it's
just
important
to
have.
You
know
a
place
where
people
can
go
and
get
the
at
the
very
least,
the
basic
skills.
C
Chris
just
a
point
of
interest:
where
is
the
nearest
trade
school
in
the
greater
boston
area?
How
far
do
people
have
to
go.
I
Well,
I
know
it
is
for
the
leading
it's
worn
out
in
lawrence.
I
think
there's
one
out,
don't
quote
me,
but
it
I
think
the
closest
one
is
at
least
20
miles
from
boston
yeah.
I
know
there's
one
up
on
the
north
shore.
I
think
there's
one
out
west,
but
I
think
it's
it
I
can
give
you
know
I
can
give
you
the
names
of
the
trade
schools,
but
I,
I
think
they're
at
least
20
miles
from
boston.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn,.
D
And
thank
you
counselor
edwards
and
again
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
their
testimony
and
leadership
on
this
important
issue.
I
see
chris
is
doing
an
excellent
job,
travis
and
selena,
so
I
just
want
to
highlight
how
I
their
work
and
their
dedication
to
this
to
this
issue.
D
On
on
trade
and
technical
opportunities,
I
went
to
a
don
bosco
technical
high
school,
and
it's
in
its
close
now,
but
I
was
maybe
chris
might
might
be
able
to
tackle
this
one
chris,
the
the
and
I'm
a
strong
supporter
of
madison
park.
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
it's
as
successful
as
it
possibly
can
be,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
the
resources
and
money
that
that
goes
into
it.
D
So
I
guess
chris,
the
the
program
out
in
worcester
the
the
high
school
in
worcester,
the
trade
school.
D
What
impact
does
that
have
on
students
that
graduate
from
that
high
school
being
able
to
get
into
into
the
trades
from
after
graduating?
That
does
that
have
a
huge
impact
on
the
on
the
young
people
coming
out
of
that
high
school
and
then
and
then
going
into
a
job
just
wanted
to
see.
If
you
may
have
followed
that
that
issue
closely.
I
Yeah,
so
I
haven't
followed
that
issue
closely,
but
in
terms
of
working
in
boston
I
I
would
think
most
of
the
the
kids
or
young
adults
that
are
in
that
school
in
worcester.
I
I'm
sure
some
do
negatively
affecting
the
brjp
program
yeah,
but
I
I
just
think-
and
I'm
going
to
say
it
again-
I've
I've
been
around
for
a
long
time,
and
so
we
don't
have
people
knocking
on
the
door
holding
signs
saying
I'm
not
working
right
now,
we're
not
seeing
that
we're
not
seeing
skilled
workers
knocking
on
the
door,
calling
us
and
saying
and
telling
us
that
they're
not
working,
that's
not
happening.
I
Anyone
that
has
skills
they're
working
is
the
unskilled,
untrained
individuals
that
we
need
to
get
up
and
running
and
again
that
would
be
do
some
type
of
training,
whether
it's
through
the
unions
or
whether
we
go
to
madison
park
and-
and
I
think,
there's
a
gap
between
because
madison
park
is
for
high
school
students.
I
For
the
most
part
right,
what
what
about
the
person
that's
between
18
and
30,
which
there's
a
void?
I
just
think
that's
the
area
that
we
need
to
concentrate
on
the
high
schools
are
important,
but
I
think
that
that
age
between
18
and
30
is
a
critical
age,
and
I
think
if
we
had
a
trade
school
that
was
able
to
provide
skills,
I
I
think
that
would
do
a
lot
for
for
this
program
and
for
the
city
of
boston.
To
be
honest
with
you,
it's
just
my
opinion.
D
And
just
want
to
see
if
it
asks
your
pen
opinion.
I
know
the
the
building
trades
are
are
much
more
friendly
and
now
than
at
any
time
for
young
men
coming
out
of
jail
in
prison,
but
I
think
it
would
be
critical
getting
getting
that
group
the
necessary
skills
and
training,
giving
them
another
opportunity
to
get
back
into
the
workforce,
getting
them
back
on
their
feet
to
be
a
productive
citizen.
I
Yeah,
I
agree,
I
think
you
know
a
person
is
incarcerated,
they
get
out
and
they
don't
have
a
skill
or
trade.
They
end
up.
You
know
in
some
cases
right
back
where
they
came
from,
so
I
think
a
partnership
with
the
the
re-entry
program,
a
partnership
with
with
you
know,
with
the
with
the
in
with
the
jails
or
whatever.
I
think
it's
important.
I
You
know
going
back
to
what
you
know,
because
everyone
has
to
survive.
I
You
know
and
if
they're
not
able,
you
know,
if
they're
not
able
to
find
employment,
then
you
know
in
a
lot
of
cases
they
end
up.
You
know
in
the
same
situation,
so
I
think
a
partnership
with
with
south
bay,
for
example,
would
be
good
even
before
the
person
gets
out
right.
You
wouldn't
wait,
it
doesn't,
you
know,
make
sense
to
wait
until
the
person
gets
out.
The
person
is
going
to
get
out
in
six
months.
D
Get
that
thank
you.
Thank
you
chris
and
council
edwards.
I
I
have
no
further
questions.
I
appreciate
the
piano
us
for
the
hard
work
and
in
in
leadership
and
just
wanted
to
highlight
one
final
issue.
As
we've.
You
know,
following
this
pandemic,
we're
going
to
have
a
booming
economy
once
again
in
the
city,
we'll
see
these
huge
cranes
up
all
over
the
city
and
if
residents
of
boston,
communities
of
color
and
women
are
not
part
of
that
booming
economy,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
complete
failure.
D
If
that
happens,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
everybody
benefits
us
from
this
booming
economy,
and
we
see
it
in
my
district,
especially
on
the
south,
boston
waterfront
and
it's
it's
critical.
That
communities
of
color
and
women
are
are
part
of
the
construction
jobs
down
there.
So
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
the
pianos
that
are
here.
Thank
you,
council,
edwards,.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
do
so.
I
just
had
a
couple
suggestions
and
I
think
for
the
pipeline
concern
and
it's
highlighting
some
of
the
examples
that
actually,
I
think
we
we
worked
so
the
suffolk
downs
cooperation
agreement,
for
example,
in
that
the
private
developer
agreed
to
commit
1
million
to
the
I
don't
know,
building
whatever
the
building
pathways
program
to
expand
the
seats
there
specifically,
for
I
push
I'm
still
pushing
for
buy
pocket
folks
in
east
boston,
but
that's
what
the
district
city
accounts
are
supposed
to
do.
A
I
understand
they're
gonna
expand
beyond
east
boston,
but
I
am
trying
to
prioritize,
of
course,
my
residents,
my
high
school
and
that's
private
dollars,
and
then
the
other
set
of
private
dollars
they
put
in
is
a
million
dollars
for
esl
training.
You
want
to
talk
about
a
pipeline
that
we
cannot
forget,
and
that
is
about
making
sure
that
people
are
getting
trained
in
esl,
and
this
is
modeled
off
a
successful
program
from
32bj
where
they
did
they
committed
to
10
years
and
a
thousand
people
over
those
10
years.
A
Each
learning
esl
in
that
time
to
make
sure
that
whether
it
was
for
the
eventual
construction
jobs
that
are
going
to
only
grow
at
suffolk
downs
or
whether
it's
just
for
any
job,
a
market
that
they're
more
prepared
for
by
having
esl
so
just
making
sure
that
the
trades
training
isn't
the
only
training
and
pipeline
that
our
money
is
going
to
and
as
we
get
bigger
projects
which
we
will
over
in
dorchester
at
the.
What
is
that
former
site,
the
big
site
where
1199
was?
A
You
know
that
big
site,
I'm
forgetting
the
name
of
it
and
then
there's
also
the
huge
pda
and
large
land
grab,
as
some
people
describe
it
from
harvard
university
over
in
austin
brighton
they're,
going
to
end
up
with
looking
at
massive
cooperation
agreements
and
how
we
make
sure
that
private
dollars
from
the
developers
are
leveraged
to
create
the
pipelines,
the
institutions?
A
A
A
We
should
consider
for
all
major
developments,
the
other
pipeline
that
I
think
councilor
flynn
touched
on
and
what
I
think
we
should
consider
with
working
with
our
our
our
street
workers
and
those
who
are
already
doing
the
amazing
work
on
the
ground
in
terms
of
moving
our
youth
towards
more
positive
places
in
our
youth
jobs
is
how
are
how
are
we
connecting
the
4
000
new
youth
jobs
that
we're
creating
in
the
city
of
boston
right
and
we're
funding
to
some
more
pipelines
into
the
trades?
A
Are
we
creating
that
bridge?
Should
we
look
at
creating
that
bridge
a
little
bit
stronger,
because
we
know
who
majority
of
those
youth
jobs
are
going
to
right
and
that's
a
good
thing.
I
believe
that
their
majority
of
kids,
who
are
bipod,
kids
and
and
women
and
young
women
as
well,
and
so,
if
we're
creating
a
job
experience,
you
know
why
aren't
they
also
being
kind
of?
A
I
know
I
don't
know
how
we
are
creating
more
jobs
or
connecting
the
two
also
in
terms
of
working
with
courts
working
with
some
of
our
juvenile
court
system
in
terms
of
deferment
in
terms
of
probation,
in
terms
of
just
being
able
to
have
programs
and
pushing
people,
I'm
talking
specifically
the
older
teens,
and
then,
of
course,
as
you
mentioned
chris
or
mr
brown.
A
Excuse
me
the
18
to
25
year
old,
that
sweet
spot
of
age
that
that's
the
age,
and
I
know
we
were
trying
to
increase
some
of
our
youth
jobs
a
little
to
be
a
little
older,
but
that
sweet
spot
of
age
is
the
where
you
can
grab
defer
move,
and
I
would
hope
that
we
start
talking
to
some
courts
about
probation
about
you
know
avoiding
any
you
know
if
they
make
a
youthful
mistake
is
what
a
lot
of
them
are
making
that's
what
it
is.
It's
not
a
character
issue.
A
It's
a
youthful
mistake,
and
so
how
do
we
make
sure
that
okay,
it's
in
exchange
for
a
pipeline
to
prison
or
a
pipeline
to
institutionalization
we're
pipelining
that
core
group
of
kids,
young
people,
I
should
say
young
adults
over
into
job
training-
you
know
you
know
roca
is-
is
doing
some.
You
know,
partnership
with
that.
I
know
that
that's
a
sweet
spot
for
them.
They
specifically
work
with
even
more
heavy
needs
youth
at
that
level,
but
I
think
there's
at
the
pipeline
that
we're
not
aggressively
tapping
into
that.
A
I
think
that
if
we
were
to
work
with
and
it's
as
simple
as
you
know,
setting
up
like
they
did
with
drug
courts,
they
set
up
pilot
programs
and
won
one
one
judge
committed
to
it
and
then
it
kind
of
grew.
I
know
we
can
find
some
judges.
I
know
we
can
find
district
court
judges
who
are
willing
to
partner
and
say
okay.
This
is
part
of
the
pipeline
away.
So
those
are
my
two
suggestions
for
the
pipeline
and
you
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
I
thank
god
for
the
sales
force.
A
Finally
getting
up
there
to
institutionalize
the
monitoring.
A
little
faster,
so
we
can
get
real,
real-time
fines
going
out.
I
think
that's
been
my
recurring
theme
consistently
from
day
one,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
continue
to
have
this
I'm
I
want
to
say
also
since
we've
started
these
hearings,
the
city's
response,
the
department's
response,
the
cohesive,
like
presentation,
has
only
gotten
better,
which
to
me
means
that
it's
becoming
a
culture
of
the
ordinance
right,
the
bi-annual
meetings
april
and
october.
A
So
I
wanted
to
thank
you
guys
for
that
and
being
so
prepared
and
ready
to
go.
I
hope
the
next
time
we
meet
we're
talking
about
you
know,
ins,
you
know,
pipelines
that
are
coming
up
in
april.
That
are
a
little
bit
more.
You
know,
creative.
I
know
you
guys
are
doing
the
csl
class.
That's
great!
I
know
you
guys
are
doing
so
many
other.
You
know
in-house,
which
you
can
control,
but
these
private
developers
need
to
be
part
of
this
table
too,
and
they
got
the
money
too.
A
So
those
are
my
thoughts
and
I
hope
we
can
you
know
continue
to
work
together.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
travis
for
your
service,
for
your
thoughts
for
your
you
kept
it
real
all
them
years
and
you
kept
it.
You
shine
a
lot
of
light
on
some
issues,
comments
and
people
who
were
not
helpful,
and
I
think
that
takes
a
lot
of
bravery
and
courage.
A
lot
of
people
think
that
it's
easy
to
do
that
it's
actually
easier
to
just
say
nothing
and
keep
your
head
down.
So
thank
you
for
being
brave.
A
Thank
you
for
being
courageous.
I
hope
whoever
becomes
mayor
does
hear
your
recommendation
about
who
should
be
your
successor,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
J
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
I've
been
forever
grateful
for
the
opportunity.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
So
with
that,
unless
anyone
has
any
additional
comments,
questions
we're
going
to
this
was
the
october
meeting
for
the
boston
residence
job
policy.
We
will
be
having
the
april
meeting
according
to
the
ordinance
next
year
with
some,
hopefully,
some
more
data,
some
more
pipelines.
B
Christopher
you
spoke
of
skills,
and
you
spoke
of
a
new
building
development
of
a
trade
school.
B
That
has
a
waiting
list
and
we
have
nothing
here
in
the
city
for
our
young
adults
and
adults,
but
a
question
that
I
have
for
you,
because
you
uplift,
the
unions-
and
I
know
for
a
fact-
and
I
will
definitely
excuse
me-
be
reaching
out
to
miss
selena
because
she
made
a
statement
about
having
concrete
evidence
where
you
go
to
the
union
and
you.
B
You
say
that
we
have
x
amount
of
workers
and
we
did.
We
had
10
workers
and
we
worked
with
with
we
had
conversation
with
the
unions
and
it
started
out.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
but
when
it
came
time
to
put
their
money
where
their
mouth
was
they
backed
off?
This
is
oh,
no.
We
can't
do
that
blatantly.
B
No,
we
can't
do
that
and
that
only
that
happened
maybe
two
years
ago.
But
the
point
I
want
to
make
is
unions
usually
have
apprentice
programs,
and
we
can't
even
get
our
members
of
the
community,
our
black
and
hispanic
and
women
members
of
boston,
roxbury,
dorchester
mattapan
in
these
programs.
How
are
they
supposed
to
get
skills?
B
That's
one
college
is
not
for
everybody.
Everybody
can't
afford
to
be
able
to
go
and
get
a
take
a
certificate
program,
or
what
have
you
that
also
takes
time,
and
most
people
have
to
work
to
put
food
on
the
table,
keep
a
roof
over
their
heads
so
on
and
so
forth,
so
that
time
that
they're
going
to
take
to
go
to
a
certificate
program.
You
know
it's
where
they're
supposed
to
be
gaining
some
kind
of
income
to
feed
their
children.
B
If
unions
were
at
least
to
allow
access-
and
I
say
allowing
they
use
that
word
very
gingerly-
but
open
the
doors
for
access
for
residents
to
at
least
be
in
an
apprentice
program,
it
is
a
stepping
stone
to
learning
a
trade
becoming
you
know
skillful,
but
we
don't
even
have
that
and
mind
you
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
am
not
saying
that
that's
the
beginning
or
the
end,
but
we
need
a
little
bit
of
everything
we
we
need
to
puzzle
and
be
able
to
fill
in
the
pieces
to
create
a
hole.
B
You
know,
so
that's
something
that
we
definitely
have
to
visit
to
counselor
edward's
point:
yes,
when
developers
come
into
boston
and
they're
going
to
build
something,
we
need
to
talk
about
community
benefits
and
I'm
not
talking
about
artwork
or
bench
benches
or
trees.
All
of
that
is
good,
but
hello.
B
You
know
I'm
talking
about
what
is
going
to
help
me
help.
My
family
help
build
my
community,
you
know
so
that
that
was
the
oh
and
one
last
thing.
The
breakdown
of
I
see
that
the
data
was
given
for
the
breakdown
of
active
projects
and,
if
I'm
not
misquoting
the
people
of
color,
I
despise
that
word,
but
I'm
gonna
leave
it
alone,
the
the
blacks
and
hispanics
and
and
in
in
and
women
in
our
community
that
that's
on
this
job.
I
see
this
like
68
percent
for
neighborhood
development.
B
You
know
the
numbers
are
nothing
like
we
see
in
roxbury,
but
my
question
is:
how
is
people
of
color
being
broken
down?
You
know
because
we
know
we
know,
I
don't
have
to
give
a
little
history
of
what
people
of
color
comprises,
and
I
don't
have
to
give
a
history
of
why
the
brjp
was
formulated.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
thank
you.
So
we
will
convene
again
in
april
we'll
have
these
continued
conversations.
I
think
all
of
us
had
expressed
our
gratitude
to
travis
I'll
just
say
it
again.
In
conclusion,
thank
you.
So
much
travis.