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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on December 3, 2020
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Docket #1051 - Petition for a special law re: Preference for Boston High School Graduates for the Position of Police Officers in the City of Boston
A
All
right
we'll
get
started
good
morning.
Everyone,
I'm
city,
councilor,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations,
it's
thursday
december
3rd
2020-
and
we
are
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session.
Excuse
me
virtual
hearing
on
docket
1051
petition
for
special
law
regarding
preference
for
heist,
boston,
high
school
graduates
for
the
position
of
police
officers
in
the
city
of
boston,
mayor
walsh
sponsored
this
proposal,
and
it
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
october
21st,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's,
adjustments
are
modifying
of
the
open
meeting
law.
A
We
are
having
this
hearing
via
zoom,
which
allows
us
to
balance
the
need
for
us
to
do
our
jobs
with
the
public
safety
concerns.
Today
the
public
may
watch
this
meeting
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
dash
council
dash
tv
and
will
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date
on
xfinity
8,
rcn
82
horizon
964.
A
A
This
is
a
homeworld
petition
which
will
create
a
preference
category
for
boston
police
candidates
who
graduated
from
any
public
or
private
secondary
school
located.
In
boston
or
from
any
secondary
school
that
participates
in
the
metropolitan
council
or
education
opportunity
program
commonly
referred
to
as
metco
this
new
preference
category
includes
graduates
from
charter
and
parochial
schools
as
well.
A
The
individual
would
also
have
to
be
a
resident
of
boston
at
the
time
of
graduation
from
high
school
to
qualify
for
this
preference.
The
creation
of
this
new
preference
category
is
result
of
the
recommendations
of
the
boston
police
reform
task
force.
Its
objective
is
to
create
a
pipeline
to
careers
in
law
enforcement
and
to
increase
diversity
in
the
boston
police
department.
A
Appointment
to
the
boston
police
department
is
governed
by
the
state's
civil
service
laws.
Chapter
31
of
the
general
laws.
This
home
repetition
is
designed
to
work
in
conjunction
with
other
preferences
provided
for
in-state
law,
which
include
preferences
for
disabled
veterans,
veterans
and
residents.
Participating
participating
today
on
behalf
of
the
administration
are
faiza
sharif.
Deputy
director
office
of
neighborhood
services,
sergeant,
eddie,
crispin,
boston,
police
department,
police
reform,
task
force,
member
michael
gaskins,
diversity,
recruitment
officer
and
exam
administrator
of
the
boston
police
department
and
javier
flores
boston,
police
reform
task
force
force
member.
A
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
for
any
very
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
administration
to
do
a
summary,
introduction
and
summary
of
the
homeworld
petition,
and
then
we
will
go
through
questioning
from
the
city
councilors
here
today.
I
have
thus
far
counselor
liz,
braden,
counselor,
ed
flynn
and
counselor
campbell
I'll
turn
it
now
over
to
counselor
braden
for
opening
remarks.
B
B
C
Thank
thank
you,
council
edwards,
and
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
welcoming
fazia
who
I
worked
closely
with
when
she
was
at
ons.
She
did
a
tremendous
job
in
the
south
end
and
in
the
bay
village
area,
so
I'm
proud
to
work
with
her,
along
with
sergeant
eddie
crispin
and
in
michael
gaskins,
who
I
know
very
well
all
three
outstanding
city
employees,
like
council
braden,
mentioned
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
the
proposal
and
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
the
from
the
administration
team.
Thank
you,
council,
edwards.
D
Thank
you,
councillor,
edwards
and,
of
course,
thank
you
to
all
the
task
force
members
who
put
together
some
really
thoughtful
recommendations.
Gaskins,
it's
so
great
to
see
you
thank
you
for
your
continued
leadership
in
this
regard.
Sergeant
crispin,
it's
great
to
see
you
as
well,
and
thank
you
to
the
the
administration
and
the
team.
D
I
think
you
know
we've
been
talking
about
the
need
to
diversify,
not
just
our
police
department,
but
also
our
fire
department,
as
well
as
ems,
and
not
just
in
terms
of
hiring,
but
also
in
terms
of
promotions,
and
making
sure
that
these
public
safety
agencies
are
reflective
of
the
demographics
of
the
city
of
boston.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
I
do
think
this
proposal
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
a
little
bit
more
about
how
it
can.
D
How
will
we
implement
it
in
the
effect
it
might
have?
I've
said
for
a
long
time
that
I
don't
know
that
this
was
enough
to
get
our
departments
to
be,
to
have
parody
well
with
the
city
of
boston's
demographics,
when
you
think
about
our
city
being
over
50
women
and
over
50
people
of
color,
and
so
I
would
love
to
hear
specifics
about
this
proposal.
D
Of
course,
how
it
will
work,
but
if
there
was
some
thought
given
to
if
this
will
or
what
additional
work
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
show
in
order
to
ensure
that
women
and
people
of
color
have
access
and,
of
course,
are
promoted
as
well
for
their
hard
work.
So
thank
you
so
much
to
everyone.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
and
I
just
just
very
briefly.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
how
the
administration
is
going
to
talk.
Not
only
summarize
this,
but
also
explain
how
this
will
work
with
current
preferences,
when
counselor
flaherty
sponsored
the
extension
of
the
residency
preference,
for
example
and
veterans,
and
some
groups
pushed
back.
I
see
this
is
really
just
having
it's
maintaining
the
one
year
prior
residency
and
the
language
you.
A
I
don't
know
why
the
administration
stuck
with
that,
and
so
that's
one
thing,
I'm
curious
about
that's
pending
and
the
other
thing
is
the
timing
of
this.
This
session
at
the
statehouse
is
going
to
end
this
year.
So
what
is
the
goal?
Is
it's
to
have
us
introduced
and
then,
ultimately
it
fails
at
the
state
house.
A
A
I
don't,
as
you
know,
suspend
and
pass
anything
that
just
comes
to
the
door,
so
I
want
to
know
who's
sponsoring
this.
At
the
state
house,
in
both
sides
and
what
is
their
plan
to
get
this
done
this
year?
If
there
is
one
at
all
okay,
so
I
will
turn
this.
Oh
we've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
janie
counselor
janie.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
counselors.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
have
this
conversation
on
the
homeworld
petition
up
for
you
today.
My
name
is
faisa
sharif
and
I
serve
as
a
deputy
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services.
Our
office
had
the
honor
of
staffing,
the
boston
police
reform
task
force.
F
This
past
summer
joined
today
by
two
task
force
members
who
helped
craft
the
specific
recommendation,
javier
flores
who's,
an
attorney
at
dinsborn,
and
also
a
commissioner
on
the
boston,
fair
housing
and
equity
commission
and
task
force,
member
eddie,
crispin
sergeant
at
bpdb2
and
president
of
massachusetts,
association
of
minority
law
enforcement
officers,
namely
o.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
invaluable
contributions
of
former
state
rep,
marie
st
fleur,
who
isn't
able
to
join
today,
but
was
the
third
member
of
the
task
force
subcommittee.
Who's
focused
on
diversity,
inclusion
within
the
bpd.
F
Lastly,
we
also
have
with
us
michael
gaskin,
who
serves
as
the
diversity
recruitment
officer
an
exam
administrator
within
the
bpd.
Who
does
this
work
day-to-day
so
I'll.
Just
give
a
brief
overview
of
how
we
landed
here
and
then
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
to
the
panelists
who
can
discuss
their
role
in
this
work.
The
specifics
of
the
recommendation
also
and
then
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
council.
F
As
the
council
is
aware,
in
response
to
the
killing
of
george
floyd
and
subsequent
civil
unrest
and
racial
reckoning,
mayor
walsh
convened
a
group
of
11
black
and
brown
residents,
community
leaders,
activists
and
stakeholders
to
review
policies
of
the
boston
police
department
and
to
recommend
reforms.
The
task
force
chaired
by
former
u.s
attorney
wayne
budd,
worked
tirelessly
throughout
the
summer
months,
in
partnership
with
experts,
stakeholders
and
with
community
to
put
forth
recommendations
which
are
comprehensive
and
bold.
F
They
included
the
creation
of
an
office
of
police,
accountability
and
transparency,
overseen
by
a
commission
that
has
full
subpoena
power
to
investigate
misconduct.
The
council
heard
the
ordinance
on
that
this
past
tuesday.
It
also
included
a
recommendation
to
formalize
and
expand
the
bpd's
commitment
to
diversity
and
inclusion.
F
The
expansion
of
the
body
worn
camera
program.
It
still
maintained
the
current
ban
on
biometrics
and
facial
recognition
technology.
It
also
recommended
use
of
force
policies
that
articulate
a
clear
disciplinary
code
and,
lastly,
transparent
access
to
the
policies,
procedures
and
data
of
the
police
department.
F
This
second
recommendation
to
formalize
and
expand
the
bpd's
commitment
to
diversity,
included
the
creation
of
a
diversity
and
inclusion
unit
in
the
boston
police
department
updates
to
bpd's
bias-free,
policing
policy,
racial
equity,
trainings
for
bbpd
personnel
and,
lastly,
the
recruiting
and
hiring
of
black
and
brown
civilian
and
sworn
officers,
with
a
specific
emphasis
on
local
hiring
in
order
to
achieve
equity
in
recruiting
and
local
hiring.
The
task
force
recommended
revising
the
civil
service
system
to
include
a
pos,
a
preference
for
boston
graduates.
F
Much
of
the
task
force
recommendations
to
expand,
bpd's
commitment
to
diversity
is
in
progress
under
the
leadership
of
dr
carolyn
crockett
and
the
office
of
equity.
However,
we
do
need
an
act
of
state
legislature
to
create
this
new
preference
category
for
boston
police
candidates
who
graduated
from
any
public
or
private
secondary
school
located
in
boston
or
from
any
secondary
secondary
school.
As
a
participant
in
the
metco
program,
and
of
course,
they
must
have
been
a
boston
resident
at
the
time
of
graduation
from
high
school.
F
We're
hopeful
that
the
council
will
be
able
to
support
this
homeworld
petition,
which
we
believe
will
help
boston
residents
who
grew
up
in
the
city
and
graduated
from
schools
in
boston
access,
both
good
jobs
in
their
communities,
add
to
cultural
competency
within
the
bpd
and
ultimately
bring
true
community
policing
to
our
neighborhoods.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
opportunity
to
discuss
this
further
I'd
like
to
ask
javier
and
sergeant
crispin
to
discuss
the
specifics
of
the
recommendation
and
then
mike
gaskins
to
speak
on
the
work
that
he
oversees
for
the
police
department.
G
G
The
objectives
of
our
subgroup
and
making
our
recommendations
were
to
develop
a
police
force
that
is
reflective
of
the
diversity
of
the
community
that
it
that
it
protects
and
serves
to
ensure
that
officers
of
color
are
represented
at
all
levels
of
the
bpd
and
to
promote
racially
equitable
policing.
Just
to
provide
a
few
statistics
that
that
were
notable
and
helped
guide.
G
Our
consideration
of
these
issues
in
2019
70
percent
of
fios
involved
african
americans
fios,
our
field
interrogation,
observations
involved
african
americans,
despite
their
making
up
just
23
percent
of
the
boston,
the
boston
city
of
boston,
which
shows
a
disparate
policing
between
2017
and
2019.
Approximately
70
percent
of
arrests
were
black
and
latinos,
despite
their
comprising
about
45
percent
of
the
population
in
boston.
G
Now,
while
the
the
recent
recruitment
into
the
bpd
and
the
demographic
data
shows
a
significant
improvement.
You
know
that
is
in
large
part
due
to
the
the
efforts
of
the
chief
diversity,
recruitment
officer,
michael
gaskins,
who
you'll
hear
from
today.
Who's
just
done
a
phenomenal
job,
but
the
fact
that
remains
that
we
cannot
rely
upon
someone
as
capable
as
mr
gaskins,
to
always
be
in
that
position
and
to
continue
to
bring
in
diverse
classes
of
police
recruits.
G
One
of
the
measures
that
we
recommended,
which
is
the
the
subject
of
today's
meeting,
is
a
bps
graduate
preference
and
that
recommendation
is
captured
in
the
home
rule
petition.
That's
been
submitted
by
mayor
walsh,
bps
hiring
and
you
know
sergeant
crispin
and
mr
gaskins
will
be
able
to
provide
significantly
more
info
into
the
the
you
know,
the
actual
inside
mechanics
of
how
the
hiring
process
takes
place,
but
on
a
very
basic
level.
G
Bps
hiring
occurs
through
the
selection
of
applicants
who
have
taken
the
civil
service.
Examination
currently
veterans
are
given
preference
on
their
eligibility
list
of
civil
service
positions
and
have
two
points
added
to
their
score
for
promotional
examinations,
which
means
that
veterans
have
preference
both
in
terms
of
initial
hiring
and
in
moving
up
through
the
levels
of
the
bpd
and
level
civil
other
civil
service
positions.
G
This
rule
would
enable
bps
graduates
to
receive
a
preference
equivalent
to
veterans
now
you
know
this
is
an
idea.
It's
important
that
this
is
not
a
task
force
originated
idea.
This
is
something
that's
been
promoted
by
community
members
and
organizations
for
a
number
of
years,
and
it's
something
that
you
know
we
we
supported
completely.
G
G
This
will
promote
the
hiring
of
officers
with
roots
in
the
community
that
they're
policing
in
in
our
discussions
with
numerous
experts
in
in
the
area
of
policing
they
they
talked
about
how
having
individuals
who
are
familiar
with
with
those
in
the
community
who
they're
responsible
for
protecting,
helps
improve
the
equitableness
of
policing.
It
also
promotes
community
trust
in
the
police
force
to
see
people
that
you've
known
and
grown
up
with
from
your
neighborhoods
who
are
occupying
those
positions.
G
Additionally,
you
know,
by
enacting
this
rule,
we
will
be
ensuring
that
you
know
officers
with
significant
experience
in
you
know,
with
minority
populations.
You
know
in
this
particular
case
as
class
members
and
friends,
and
people
who
grow
up
and
see
every
day
in
school.
Those
individuals
will,
you
know,
gain
greater
access
to
the
bbd,
which
goes
directly
to
issues
of
implicit
bias
and
inequitable
policing.
G
So
you
know
a
couple
things
that
that
we'd
like
to
emphasize
before
I
turn
it
over
to
sergeant
crispin
is
that
you
know
the
community
support
for
for
this
change,
for
this
preference
was
extremely
strong
during
the
public
listening
sessions.
You
know
person
after
person
expressed
their
strong
support
for
this
change
and
and
foreseen
more
bps
graduates
gaining
access
into
the
bpd.
G
G
To
encourage
you
know
the
legislators
for
for
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts
to
implement
this
change
as
quickly
as
possible
and
in
a
manner
that
more
closely
reflects
the
proposal
that
that's
before
you
today
and
in
in
answer
to
the
the
chair's
question
we
believe
that
expediency
is,
is
imperative
we'd
like
to
get
this
before
the
legislature
as
soon
as
possible,
with
the
with
the
overarching
goal
of
trying
to
get
it
passed
this
year,
if,
if
feasible?
Thank
you.
H
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
eddie
crispin.
I
am
a
boston
police
officer
for
the
last
21
years,
a
lifelong
resident
of
the
city
of
boston
and
president
of
mainly,
which
is
the
massachusetts
association
of
minority
law
enforcement
officers.
So
this
idea
to
create
this
home
rule
has
been
in
my
mind
for
some
time
I've
had
discussions,
some
of
which
has
been
with
some
of
the
members
of
the
city
council.
I
think
there
is
no
better
time
to
enact
this.
This
rule.
H
H
That
said,
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
with
mailmeal
man
leo
is
an
organization
that's
that
was
initiated
in
1968.
They
won
a
lawsuit
which
ultimately
forced
the
city
to
hire
black
and
brown
people.
This
lawsuit
created
what
they
call
the
consent
decree,
which
required
the
city
to
hire
a
black
brown
officer
for
every
white
officer
that
they
hired
that
consent
decree,
I
think,
ended
in
2002.
H
So
I
think
for
me,
when
I
think
about
this
home
rule
petition
it'll
do
a
number
of
different
things.
First
and
foremost,
it'll
diversify
the
police
department.
There
have
been
substantial
efforts
made
to
diversify
the
police
department
over
the
last
few
years,
some
of
which
have
involved
language
preference.
H
The
other
piece
has
been
really
the
cadet
program.
That
said,
we
still
continue
to
be
far
below
where
we
should
be
as
a
police
department
in
terms
of
diversity.
I
look
at
the
district
that
I
work
in,
which
is
v2,
which
is
probably
the
most
brown
and
black
district
in
the
city.
Yet,
and
still,
I
think
the
makeup
of
our
current
district
is
probably
about
75
to
80
white.
So
to
me
that
still
speaks
to
some
of
the
long-standing
issues
about
the
lack
of
diversity
in
the
police
department.
H
So
the
other
piece
is,
I
know
for
me.
As
someone
who's
been,
a
lifelong
resident
grew
up
in
matapan
came
from
haiti
at
the
age
of
seven,
have
lived
in
the
city,
my
whole
life.
I
know
my
interactions
tend
to
be
very
different
city
of
boston
as
large
as
it
is
tends
to
be
a
very
small
place.
You
run
into
a
lot
of
the
same
people.
H
I
think
it's
important
that
we
allow
young
people
to
get
it
get
into
a
profession
where
they
will
be
financially
stable,
where
they
will
pull
themselves
up,
potentially
be
able
to
pull
up
some
of
their
family
members.
So
I
think
the
other
piece
about
this
is
this.
This
is
something
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
with
members
of
the
city
way
before
this
police
reform
task
force
came
into
play
and
everybody
across
the
board.
I
have
yet
to
hear
one
person
who
says
that
it's
a
bad
idea
right,
so
I've
talked
to
teachers.
H
I've
talked
to
social
workers,
I've
talked
to
probation
officers.
I've
spoke
I've
spoken
to
social
activists,
all
of
whom
are
on
board
a
hundred
percent
all
right.
So
for
me,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
move
on
this
quickly,
the
police
department
as
much
as
we
as
we've
done.
We
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
when
we're
talking
about
rewriting
the
narrative
of
what
police
officers
are
supposed
to
be
with
how
they,
how
they
do
their
work,
the
kind
of
impact
they
have
in
the
community.
H
I
think
it's
important
that
we
pull
in
a
lot
of
these
young
men
and
women
who
grew
up
in
a
community
who
know
what
the
issues
are
and
who
themselves
oftentimes
find
themselves
disgusted
by
some
of
the
stuff
they've
seen
in
social
media.
So
my
question
to
them
is
always
what
would
you
do
differently
and
for
every
single
one
that
tells
me
that
they
do
things
differently
than
what
they've
seen
in
the
media?
H
H
To
this
day,
I
still
get
calls
as
a
president,
mainly
about
young
people
who
are
trying
to
join.
I
get
in
the
police
force
who
are
experiencing
different
difficulties,
who
are
not
scoring
high
enough
on
the
exam
to
get
in
or
encountering
some
of
the
minor
issues
that
oftentimes
keep
some
of
these
young
folks
from
joining
the
the
police
department.
So
I
think
this
would
be
a
a
huge
step
in
the
right
direction
by
pushing
through
this,
this
boston,
public,
school
preference.
A
Thank
you.
We
were
throwing
tests
and
we
were
joined
by
two
additional
city
councillors:
councilor
michael
flaherty
and
council,
julia
mahia,
councillor
fla.
If,
if
council,
flaherty
or
council,
megha
would
like
to
do
some
brief
opening
remarks
or
some
questions.
Oh
I
apologize
to
the
administration
was
that
your
last
speaker.
I
Good
morning,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
obviously
interesting
to
hear
the
testimony.
We
actually
have
something
pending.
Madam
chair.
As
you
know,
the
boston
city
council
had
passed
and
the
mayor
had
signed
a
five-year
residency
to
be
included
in
applications
for
both
boston,
police
and
boston
fire
applications.
So
this
is
somewhat
kind
of
redundant.
The
five-year
residency
would
actually
go
a
lot
further
in
creating
more
opportunities
for
city
residents.
I
I
They
grew
up
in
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
commonwealth,
and
then
they
move
into
boston
and-
or
you
know,
hang
a
hat
with
a
relative
and
then
they
take
the
civil
service
exam
and
get
on
the
job.
The
five-year
residency,
the
home
rule
petition,
that's
pending
up
at
beacon,
hill,
solves
that
and
protects
the
city
kid
and
will
increase
and
further
and
foster
more
diversity.
So
we'll
have
a
department
that
looks
and
speaks
like
the
residents
of
the
city
of
boston.
I
So
I'm
it's
great
that
we
see
obviously
folks
on
this
morning.
You
know
cheerleading,
for
you
know
getting
you
know,
a
preference
for
boston,
public
school
kids,
but
I
want
to
hear
everyone's
thoughts
and
opinions
on
the
five-year
residency
rule.
That's
currently
pending
up
at
beacon
hill,
and
maybe
they
can
go
up
to
beacon
hill
banks
and
pots
and
pans
and
get
that
thing
passed
up
there,
because
that
actually
does
more
to
solve
this
problem
than
adding
sort
of
a
boston,
public,
school
preference.
I
It
protects
city
residents
and
gives
young
men
and
women
who
are
born
and
raised
in
the
city.
Grew
up
in
the
city
played
youth
sports
in
the
city,
went
to
school
in
the
city,
an
opportunity
to
serve
their
city
on
the
boston
police
department
in
the
boston
fire
department
and
all
too
often
we're
hearing
of
stories
of
men
and
women
coming
on
the
job
that
didn't
grow
up
in
the
city
that
didn't
go
to
school
in
the
city
that
didn't
play:
youth
sports
in
the
city
that
don't
attend
the
local
churches
in
the
city.
I
I
It
was
actually
unanimously
supported
by
all
the
groups
who
attended
and
participated
in
the
hearings
and
gave
testimony
it's
good,
sound
legislation
that
makes
sense
that
solves
this
very
problem.
That's
currently
up
at
beacon
hill,
but
we
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel
and
we
want
to
put
some
extra
stuff
in
that
is
solved
by
the
five-year
residency
problem.
So
that's
my
two
cents
in
obviously
I'll
support
anything
that
helps
get
a
city
kid
on
the
job.
I
J
So
I
need
some
clarity
around
making
sure
that
that's
what
we're
driving
for
I'm
here,
eddie
just.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
that,
specifically
that
this,
what
you're
pushing
for
is
going
to
be
more
so
for
boston,
public
school
students,
which
is
different
than
just
an
overall
residency,
because
anybody
can
live
in
the
city
of
boston,
but
not
everyone's
going
to
go
to
our
boston
public
schools.
So
I
just
want
to.
I
need
some
clarity
around
that
and
then
I
also
would
like
to
know
in
terms
of
age
requirement.
J
Are
we
looking
at
students
who
are
you
know
are?
Are
we
looking
at
other
private
schools?
Are
we
looking
within
the
age
range
older
graduates,
because
I
know
for
me
I
was
almost
20
by
the
time
I
graduated
high
school
right,
so
I
just
would
like
to
get
a
sense
of
what
the
age
range
looks
like,
and
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
breakdown
between
the
preference
of
bps
students
and
students
of
private
and
secondary
schools
like
I'm
curious
as
to
if
they
fall
within
this?
A
And
just
to
quickly
answer
your
question:
counselor
mejia,
the
the
proposed
home
rule
petition,
is
for
bps.
It's
for
private
schools
for
field
schools,
charter
schools
and
metco.
What's
required.
Is
that
the
k
that
the
person
I
have
lived
in
boston
and
had
gone
to
any
one
of
those
schooling
systems.
J
A
I
I
Three
six
months
sign
up
for
the
test
and
then
go
on
the
job
or
come
in
and
live
with,
with
a
relative,
an
aunt
or
an
uncle,
etc.
So
and
then
just
a
clarifying
client
to
through
the
chair
to
counsel
me
here
at
that
mit
councilman
here
made
a
statement
that
you
can
live
outside
the
city
and
then
come
to
the
boston
public
schools.
That's
not
the
case.
In
order
to
be
in
the
boston,
public
schools,
you
have
to
be
a
resident
of
the
city
of
boston.
J
Yes,
so
through
the
chair
today,
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
want
to
be
going
back
and
forth
here,
but
I
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear
that
for
me
I
I
personally
do
not
think
that
three
years
in
residency
here
in
the
city
of
boston
gives
anybody
any
real
understanding
of
what
it's
like
to
be
a
city,
a
resident
of
the
city
of
boston.
So
I
would
recommend
and
and
advocate
that
we
push
a
little
bit
further
beyond
the
three
or
five
years
situation
here.
That's
just
my
personal
preference.
K
K
K
K
If
we
had
this
particular
legislation
in
civil
service,
it
would
have
impacted
the
the
class
by
about
26
candidates,
which
is
around
23
of
the
entries
for
the
class.
So
it
would
have
made
a
significant
difference
in
this
particular
class.
Again,
if
we're
looking
at
26,
we
we
have
a
110
going
in
so
while
the
number
26
might
not
sound
like
a
big
number,
it
can
over
three
four
years
where
you
say:
okay.
Well,
every
year
we
had
26
more
individuals
that
would
typically
come
from
schools.
K
That
would
be
a
pipeline
and
again,
if
we're
reflective
of
the
city,
these
kids
would
do
quite
well.
We
can
look
at
other
partnerships
and
and
pipeline
opportunities.
Jayco
boston
was
another
affinity.
Group
within
the
boston
police
department.
Does
a
pre-academy
training.
We
do
a
lot
of
outreach
to
not
only
get
again
make
sure
that
the
kids
are.
I
call
them
kids
in
terms
of
the
age
group.
K
You
can
be
anywhere
between
19
and
39
to
take
the
civil
service
exam,
but
to
not
only
be
prepared
physically
but
academically,
and
they
have
a
great
program,
and
so
we
continue
to
partner
with
manlio,
diego
boston,
all
of
our
affinity
groups,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
be
representative
and
reflective
of
the
of
the
city
that
we
serve.
I'll
also
say
that
you
know
again
the
spirit
of
the
law
for
civil
service,
giving
military
veterans
and
disabled
veterans.
A
preference
I
think
is
is
is
a
good
law.
K
One
in
22
are
our
female,
so
we're
all
we're
always
going
to
have
a
disparate
impact
if
we
continue
to
not
have
other
tools
that
would
help
us
to
to
garner
the
best
and
brightest
that
relate
to
the
cultural
competency
that
we're
looking
to
to
to
really
bolster
in
the
city.
So
I
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
here
to
answer
additional
questions.
H
When
I
looked
at
those
forms,
most
of
those
young
men
and
women
were
not
from
the
city
of
boston,
did
not
attend
the
boston,
public
schools
and
the
ones
who
grew
up
in
the
city
or
from
some
of
those
legacy.
Families
from
the
boston
police
department
did
not
attend
boston,
public
schools,
so
I
I
get.
H
B
Yeah,
I
agree
so
in
terms
of
also
recruits
come
in
what
you
know.
This
is
a
college
town.
We
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
students
come
through.
They
live
in
the
city,
so
technically
they're
residents
of
boston
for
more,
maybe
three
years,
five
years,
four
years,
do
you
see
a
pattern
of
recruitment
from
those
sort
of
folks
who
maybe
came
came?
They
lit?
They
grew
up
somewhere
else,
but
they
came
to
boston
first
for
college
and
and
then
decided
to
to
come
into
the
police
force
is.
H
K
We
we
have
roughly
I'll
say:
80
of
our
recruits
are
typically
from
massachusetts.
We
will
have
a
number
of
people
that
are
from
outside
of
the
the
state
that
have
been
moved
to
the
state,
but
we
we
do
have
a
a
strong
number
of
what
what
you
would
call
new
england
regional
applicants
that
become
police
officers.
K
We
do
have
a
substantial
number
of
applicants
that
could
be
from
outside
of
the
city
that
come
go
to
school
here
and
graduate.
If
they're
residents
they
register
to
vote,
then
they
would
be
considered
residents
of
the
city.
That
number
isn't
as
substantial
again.
We
would
be
looking
at
anywhere
between
15
to
17
percent,
but
just
in
terms
of
those
that
that
again
would
qualify
for
someone
that
came
from
california
went
to
northeastern
graduated
and
is
now
a
police
officer.
K
B
H
H
I
think
three
years
you're
just
starting
to
get
your
feet,
wet
understanding
and
depending
again,
where
it
is
that
you're
traveling,
if
you're,
not
if
you're
from
outside
the
city
chances,
are
you're
not
going
to
come
into
some
of
the
neighborhoods
that
you
know
you
potentially
could
be
policing
and
for
me,
which
is
problematic.
I've
worked
in
b2,
roxbury,
dorchester
and
b3,
probably
90
of
my
career
other
than
the
years
I
spend
at
the
academy.
So
I
think
it's
a
very
different
perspective.
H
If
you
are
visited
to
the
city
of
boston,
chances
are
you'll,
be
down.
Faneuil
hall
you'll
go
down
copley,
but
you're
not
going
to
find
yourself
not
too
often
in
mattapan,
dorchester
and
roxbury,
which
for
me,
like
those
areas,
are
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
I
think,
given
the
levels
of
community
violence
that
we
see
in
those
neighborhoods
and
the
levels
of
of
poverty,
lack
of
education.
H
So
I
think
it's
important
that
you
have
that
perspective,
at
least
that
insight,
by
virtue
of
interaction
with
people
visiting
people
who
look
different,
who
speak
different
at
different
ethnic
backgrounds.
So
I
think,
if
you
grew
up
in
the
city
of
boston,
you
attended
a
boston
public
school.
I
think
you're
gonna,
you
will
inevitably
have
dealt
with.
Somebody
who
is
from
a
different
country
speaks
a
different
language
whose
family's
economic
well-being,
a
lack
of
well-being,
is
different
from
yours.
B
C
Thank
you,
council,
edwards
and
and
counselor
braden's
questions
were
we're
right
on
right
on
target,
so
sergeant
crispin.
I
I've
always
had
a
great
deal
of
respect
for
man
leo
in
in
your
mission
working
closely
with
larry
over
the
years
and
with
yourself
I'm
just
trying
to.
If
so,
if
a
high
school
student
was
able
to
get
into
the
get
into
the
program
get
into
the
the
academy
class,
what
how
would
we
prepare
them?
C
Are
we
looking
at
any
training
options
prior
to
starting
with
the
police
or
getting
into
the
police
academy,
just
so
that
we
set
them
up
for
success?
Whether
that's
you
know,
drills
on
the
weekends
or
informal
classes
or
on-the-job
assistance,
or
just
want
to
see
what
your
thoughts
might
be
on
that
on
that
on
that
issue,.
H
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
initiated
over
the
last
few
years
is
a
mentorship
program
through
leo
jacob
boston,
which
is
a
latino
law.
Enforcement
group
of
boston,
also
runs
a
pre-academy
training.
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
the
city
is
very
serious
about
doing
this,
and
I
think
we
all
should
be
serious,
I
think
we
should
introduce
some
kind
of
program
at
the
high
school
level
that
introduces
some
of
these
young
women
and
men
to
the
notion
of
launch
enforcement.
H
What
it
entails
and
really
stops
start
to
plant
the
the
idea
of
community
policing
right
if
we
really
want
to
change
the
culture
of
policing
and
what
it
means
to
responsibly
police
people
from
different
backgrounds.
I
think
it's
best
if
we
start
the
training
at
the
high
school
level.
So
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
can,
I
would
be
more
than
willing
to
have
a
conversation
with
some
of
the
city
councilors,
the
mayor
about
what
how
that
program
may
look
and
what
role
we
could
play
in
that.
C
Yeah
that
that's
that's
great
sides,
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
an
important
part
of
it-
is
making
sure
that
you
know
the
high
schools
bps
other
high
schools
as
well
play
some
type
of
role
in
providing
some
of
these
students
and
an
overview
of
what
to
expect
or
how
to
prepare
yourself
for
physical
fitness
related
issues
or
or
how
to
study
just
just
so
that
they're
as
successful
as
they
want
to
be
as
they
can
be.
But
I
think
there
would
be
a
role.
C
A
formal
role
would
be
necessary
for
bps
working
closely
with
the
training
program
with
the
boston
police
department,
and
then
I
I
so
thank
you
sergeant
and
and
for
and
for
michael
thank
you
for
mentioning
the
disabled
veterans
as
well.
I'm
also
a
disabled
veteran,
and
I
appreciate
you
highlighting
the
important
role
they
they
play
as
well.
C
And
I
want
to
see
michael
if
I,
if
maybe
it's
unrelated
to
the
subject.
But
I'd
like
to
see
if
I
could
work
with
you
down
the
road
doing
doing
some
recruiting
of
communities
of
disabled
veterans,
making
sure
that
you
know
we
do
all
we
can
for
returning
veterans
and
disabled
veterans
from
the
communities
of
color,
letting
them
know
about
opportunities
available
in
the
police
department
and
the
fire
department
just
want
to
see
what
your
general
philosophy
is
on,
how
recruitment
would
work
for
disabled
veterans.
K
K
Excuse
me
so,
but
as
it
relates
to
our
outreach,
I
call
it
a
full
court
press.
So
again
we
have
baskets
of
applicants
and
what
we're
just
trying
to
do
is
call
the
best
and
brightest
of
each
of
each
group.
So
we
we
already
have
a
very
close
relationship
with
the
office
of
veteran
affairs
to
the
city.
I
know
gisele
recently
left.
I.
C
Yet
yeah,
thank
you
michael.
I
have
a
good
relationship
with
commissioner
santiago.
I
work
with
them
frequently,
so
maybe
if
we
could
all
talk
or
meet
sometime
in
the
future,
that
would
be.
That
would
be
helpful
and
then
my
final
comment,
maybe
it's
to
eddie
sargent
and
to
michael,
but
are
you?
Are
you
thinking
about
ways
to
include
the
bps
junior
rotc
program
in
this
discussion
as
well?
I
I
have
great
respect
for
the
rotc
program
in
what
they
do
in
the
city.
C
H
Counselor
flynn,
one
of
the
programs,
we
went
through
a
number
of
the
community
service
offices
throughout
the
cities
and
explore
programs,
and
that
pulls
in
young
folks
who
are
already
involved
in
rotc,
and
they
go
through
our
program.
The
conversations
we've
had,
I
think
I've
had
the
conversation
with
the
commissioner,
I'm
not
sure
if
I've
had
it
with.
Mr
gaskins
is
also
potentially
especially
for
the
cadet
program.
H
Since
we
don't
really
have
this
bps
preference
is
to
create
a
preference
for
those
young
people
who
have
gone
through
the
explorers
programs
or
the
team
police
academy
in
some
instances,
so
that
they
have
a
preference
in
terms
of
getting
into
the
cadet
program.
So
absolutely
I
think
that's
that's.
That
would
be
a
great
program
in
addition
to
this
bps
reference.
K
Mr
flynn
again
thank
you
for
your
service
and
sergeant.
We
have
had
that
conversation
and
we
we
absolutely
guarantee
an
interview
for
anyone.
That's
been
part
of
any
of
the
the
community
programs
that
we
have
for
the
boston
police
department,
so
they're
guaranteed
an
interview
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they'll
become
a
cadet,
but
we
also
look
to
to
work
with
them
in
terms
of
for
those
programs,
we
actually
I've
actually
done
personal
interview,
tips
and
resume
workshops
for
our
our.
K
What
I'll
call
pre-collegiate
programs
to
make
sure
that
they're,
ready
and
prepared
for
the
interview
and
then
subsequent
to
that
you
know,
hopefully
they'll
become
become
cadets.
We
also
look
to
track,
so
those
that
are
are
in
rotc
programs.
That
then
become.
You
know
they
look
at
the
military
as
a
profession
prior
to
to
their
return.
We
hope
to
plant
seeds
so
upon
their
return.
They'll
be
ready
to
step
into
a
job
in
law
enforcement.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
the
presentation
and
sergeant
you
know
you're
exactly
right.
It's
it's!
This
conversation
is
critically
important,
not
just
to
create
diversity
in
our
in
our
public
safety
agencies,
to
build
that
trust,
that's
so
critically
important
to
community
policing,
but
also
you
know,
these
are
high-paying
great
jobs
right
for
folks
in
the
city
of
boston.
A
few
questions,
one
michael.
This
is
for
you.
What
are
the
recent?
K
K
Of
the
the
overall
makeup
we
probably
had
for
that
particular
class:
well,
it
could
have
been
closer
to
60
percent
white,
american
and
then
40
percent
minority,
but
that's
60
white
american.
We
had
several
women
in
in
that
on
that
side
of
things,
so
it
was
a
well-balanced
class.
You're
aware
that
we
look
to
see
who's
represented
in
our
current
class
and
then
target
zip
codes.
K
We
do
our
outreach
and
try
to
make
sure
that
if
there's
no
one,
we
don't
have
any
cadets
for
matapan
we'll
do
a
strategic
strategic
outreach
to
look
at
candidates.
From
that
specific
zip
code
jp,
we
always
look
for
language
skills
as
well,
so
boston,
public
schools,
kids
kind
of
have
a
built-in
preference
for
the
cadet
program
because
they
do
have
to
be
a
resident
for
five
years
prior
to
prior
to
a
applying,
and
we
look
at
that.
K
D
It
would
be
great
to
to
to
get
the
demographics
of
the
last
two
years
of
cadets,
like
you
said,
because
of
the
residency
requirement
for
the
cadet
program.
Many
of
our
bps
kids
already
go
through
that
pipeline
right
now
right,
so
this
proposal
would
expand
upon
that.
But
there's
a
lot.
I
mean
we're
already
seeing
some
success
through
this
current
cadet
pipeline
right.
But
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
you
know
how
do
we
ensure
that
this
particular
proposal
will
get
at
diversity
right?
D
H
H
So
this
could
potentially
offset
that,
and
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
population,
the
boston,
public
schools,
I'm
hard
pressed
to
believe
that
families
who
are
doing
fairly
well
are
now
going
to
be
in
a
position
where
they're
pushing
their
kids
to
go
to
a
boston
public
school.
Just
for
the
purpose
of
gaming,
this
bps
preference-
I
have
a
son
who
actually
attends
boston
public
schools.
H
It
will
pull
from
the
vast
majority
of
the
boston
public
schools
versus
black
and
brown
people
and
in
the
other
piece,
even
for
those
who
are
not
black
or
brown,
they
will
be
pulling
in
people
who
have
some
level
of
cultural
competency
by
virtue
of
attending
boston,
public
schools
or
by
virtue
of
actually
living
in
the
city
and
not
just
becoming
a
visitor
for
a
year
and
joining
the
police
department.
No.
D
F
Just
quickly
respond
to
that
last
piece,
I
think
we
are
100
in
agreement
that
civil
self
civil
service
reform
is
absolutely
necessary,
which
is
why,
in
the
task
force's
recommendations,
it
was
centered
around
advocacy.
It
was
centered
around
specific
things.
The
city
could
do,
but
also
a
push
for
more
to
be
done
at
the
state
level.
We
know
that
sometimes
bills
and
homeworld
petitions
get
passed
on
the
city
level,
go
up
to
the
state
house
and
languish
there
right.
Civil
service
is
a
very
tough
thing
to
unpack.
F
I
think
we're
a
little
bit
encouraged
that
the
state
passed
their
version
of
police
reforms,
which
includes
a
commission
on
studying
civil
service,
but
I
also
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
this
isn't
a
either
or
conversation
between
the
residency
home
rule
petition
that
council
flaherty
has
championed
which
the
mayor
signed
versus
this
this
home
rule.
That's
before
you.
This
is
about
using
every
single
tool
that
we
have
to
continue
to
push
for
these
things
right
and
whether
something
goes
far
enough
or
not.
F
If
we're
not
acting
and
if
we're
not
legislating
right,
we're
stuck
in
the
current
status
quo.
So
someone
had
to
create
and
reinstate
that
cadet
program
right
every
single
year.
We
have
to
push
for
additional
diversity.
We
have
to
hire
folks
like
the
michael
gaskins,
like
the
sergeant
chris,
that
make
that
difference
right.
The
administration
is
committed
to
work.
F
This
homeworld
petition
is
a
part
of
pushing
for
reforms
and
it
is
going
to
make
a
meaningful
material
difference
in
the
outcomes
that
we
see
in
the
ways
that
these
candidate
classes
look
like.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
actually
keeping
our
eye
on
the
ball
that
we're
more
aligned
than
we
think
that
we
are
and
the
option
here
isn't
leaving
something
at
the
table,
and
it's
really
increasing
this
toolbox
to
actually
get
at
what
we
want
and
what
will
help
actual
communities.
I.
D
Don't
I
for
sake
of
time,
I
don't
disagree,
you're
exactly
right.
I
think
this
is
a
good
proposal,
anything
that
will
create
more
pipelines
to
allow
for
more
women
and
people
of
color
to
come
into
our
public
safety
agencies.
Sign
me
up.
We
know
their
hurdles.
Of
course,
when
you
get
to
the
state
house,
it's
a
whole
different
beast.
We
have
a
cadet
program
for
the
fire
department
sitting
up
there
languishing,
of
course,
but
one
of
the
things
I
do
want
to
respect.
We
respectfully
push
back
on
is
civil
service.
D
The
state
yes,
has
a
commission,
they
can
study
it,
but
the
city
of
boston
could
do
its
own
study
of
civil
service,
and
I
said
that
years
ago
we
could
hire
someone
or
do
it
internally
or
do
both
to
really
get
a
sense
of
the
effect
civil
service
has
on
our
hiring
and
promotional
process
and
then
decide
how
we
then
want
to
move
either
it's
creating
a
point
system
opting
out
or
doing
something
different.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
wait
on
the
state
to
do
that
piece.
D
E
You
know
I
want
to
kind
of
go
deeper
into
the
data
and
just
building
upon
council
campbell's
questions,
and
it's
going
to
be
really
important
for
me
to
see
actual
hard
numbers
for
me
to
want
to
move
this
forward,
and
I
definitely
want
to
move
this
forward.
I
think
focusing
on
our
students
is
a
good
way
to
go.
E
I
I
worry
that
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
explicitly
and
exclusively
focus
on
bps
kids,
that
we
will
end
up
in
the
same
problems
that
we
already
have
so
we're
going
to
see
we're
going
to
see
with
this
preference
a
bunch
of
kids
from
bc,
high,
no
offense
to
council
flaherty.
I
know
that's
his
alma
mater,
but
we're
not
going
to
see
is,
is
students
from
you
know
the
burke,
and
so
I
worry
that
this
isn't
going
far
enough.
E
Then
I
worry
that
we're
gonna
miss
the
mark.
I
I'm
all
for
a
preference
that
prioritizes
our
students,
but
I
think
if
the
goal
is-
and
I
believe
that
this
is
the
goal-
is
to
create
another
tool
that
would
lead
get
us
closer
toward
a
police
force
that
reflects
the
diversity
of
our
city.
I
just
worry
that
we'll
miss
it,
because
it's
not
exclusive
to
bps
students
and
that
will
continue
to
see
the
lack
of
diversity.
E
K
Currently,
ma'am,
we
would
be
able
to
to
provide
that
data
for
cadets
more
recently
for
since
2016.,
I'm
not
sure
I
would
be
able
to
be
able
to
go
beyond
that,
and
that
is
also
true
of
our
recruit
classes.
I
did
a
real,
quick
overlay
of
if
this
particular
bill
was
enacted
for
this
most
recent
class.
It
would
impact
the
class
by
23
right
now
so
of
110.
K
K
J
E
E
Appreciate
you,
thank
you
so
much
I
mean
that's
really
it
for
me,
madam
chair.
I
want
to
dig
deep
into
the
data
to
see
if
we
could
use
this
as
a
way
to
get
the
diversity
that
we
hope
to
get,
and
if
we're
not
seeing
that,
then
I
wonder
what
we
do
to
tweak
this.
My
suggestion
would
be
is
that
we
focus
on
boston,
public
school
graduates
solely.
F
Counselor
janie-
that
was
actually
a
really
thoughtful
point,
and
it's
come
up
several
times
from
councillor,
mejia
and
also
madam
chair
specifically
about.
Why
was
this
language
crafted
the
way
that
it
was
crafted?
So
thank
you
so
much
for
raising
that.
I
actually
want
to
ask
javier
flores
and
sergeant
crispin
to
speak
to
this,
because
the
recommendation
I.
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Obviously,
on
a
footnote
on
sort
of
on
the
previous
speaker.
I
know
just
speaking
about
my
alma
mater,
that's
gone
to
great
lengths
in
terms
of
outreach
and
recruitment
throughout
the
entire
city
of
boston
and
and
have
seen
significant
gains
in
students
of
color,
particularly
students
that
come
from
from
poverty
and
in
some
really
tough
circumstances
who
are
now
currently
enrolled
over
at
bci.
I
So
I
don't
want
to
overlook
that
that
group
of
individuals,
as
well
as
efforts
that
are
being
made
to
continue
to
foster
more
equity
involvement
in
in
those
schools.
So
it's
a
completely
different
school
today
than
it
was
10
15
20
years
ago.
So,
given
those
gains,
I
would
not
want
to
see
you
know
a
city
kid,
particularly
a
haitian
kid
from
dorchester
or
vietnamese
kids
from
fields
corner.
I
That's
currently
at
bc
high,
with
not
a
lot
of
means
in
their
respective
households,
be
able
to
potentially
compete
and
to
get
on
the
boston
police
department.
So
I
want
to
I'd,
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
say
that
clearly,
the
focus
is
on
boston,
public
schools,
but,
as
we
start
to
see,
schools
that
call
boston
their
home
continue
to
diversify
their
enrollment
and
make
efforts
to
reach
out
and
make
efforts
to
just
particularly
for
some
of
our
neediest
residents.
I
I
would
not
want
to
hamper
that
student
that
child's
ability
to
gain
access
so,
but
I
want
to
shift
gears
and
ask
I
just
need
to
get
clarity
from
from
the
panel.
What
is
your
definition,
a
description
of
a
mattress
address
because
I'm
not
explaining
the
three-year
rule
into
facia's
point
if
we
may
maybe
amend
this
current
home
rule
petition
to
go
from
one
year
to
three,
it
solves
the
problem,
the
biggest
impediment
that
we
have
currently
with
respect
to
the
civil
service
exam.
I
Is
it
takes
about
a
year
for
the
whole
process?
You
fill
out
the
application
you
sit
for
the
exam.
You
wait
for
the
exam
to
be
graded.
You
wait
for
civil
service.
The
civil
service
to
certify
the
exam
so
in
a
sense
about
a
year,
passes
the
biggest
impediment
to
a
city.
Kid
gaining
access
to
to
to
participate
in
or
to
get
the
postcard
for
employment
is
the
mattress
address
impediment
and
I
need
to
hear
from
someone
from
the
police
department
as
to
what
is
your
definition
of
a
mattress
address.
I
My
definition
is
a
kid
that
is
not
from
the
city
didn't
grow
up
in
the
city.
Didn't
go
to
school
in
the
city,
didn't
play
youth
sports
in
the
city,
but
they
have
a
grandmother
or
an
aunt
or
an
uncle
or
a
cousin
that
does
live
in
the
city,
so
they
use
their
and
they
stop
the
the
process
which
takes
about
a
year.
We
only
have
a
minimum
of
one
year,
residence
requirements
for
you
to
sit
for
the
test
and
to
be
considered
by
moving
it
from
one
year
to
three
years.
I
We
disincentivize
that
whole
loophole.
If
you
will
and
that's
the
biggest
impediment
for
non-veteran
kids
of
the
city,
because
there's
only
so
many
seats
per
class
per
academy,
a
significant
number
of
those
seats
are
being
taken
by
people
that
have
a
mattress
address,
which
is
why
it's
important
to
move
the
requirement
from
one
year
residency
to
three
years.
My
idea
of
the
three-year
residency
as
just
described
briefly
it's
not
about
who
knows
the
city
and
who
can
get
from
porter
square
to
maverick
square
to
union
square.
I
I
That's
why
we
currently
have
something
pending
up
up
at
the
beacon
hill
to
move
it
from
one
year
to
three
years,
because
that's
a
different
equation.
You
can
plop
down
for
one
year
at
your
on
sales
or
your
grandmother's
house
and
kind
of
ride
out
the
application
process.
If
you're
required
to
get
a
lease
for
three
years
or
to
move
in
for
three
years,
that's
a
different
conversation,
and
that
would
dissuade
a
lot
of
folks
from
taking
advantage
of
the
mattress
address
loophole.
I
I
So
this
isn't
a
knock
on
our
our
veterans
or
on
men
and
women
of
the
police
department,
but
we're
trying
to
get
more
city,
kids,
more
kids
that
are
born
and
raised
educated
and
played
youth
sports
and
art
and
dance
and
music
in
boston
who
know
the
neighborhoods
on
the
jog
the
biggest
hurdle
right
now.
For
that
to
happen,
is
the
mattress
address
loophole,
which
is
why
it's
important
to
go
from
one
year
to
three
years.
I
So
phaser
to
your
point,
if
we
could
include
or
amend
the
language
to
go
from
one
year
to
three
years,
it
kind
of
satisfies
both
because,
as
council
campbell
said,
I'm
on
board
with
all
of
what
helps
a
city
kid
get
on
the
job
and
the
problem
we
have
right
now
is
they're
competing
with
the
mattress
address
and
we
have
to
eliminate
the
mattress
address
one
year.
Doesn't
do
it
three
years
after
five
years
would
definitely
do
it.
Three
years
would
put
a
big
dent
in
it.
I
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
I
need
to
hear
from
someone
from
the
police
department
to
extract
to
explain
to
me
what
they
think
a
mattress
address
is
and
how
they
would
agree
that
going
from
one
year
to
three
year
would
completely
probably
eliminate
the
mattress
address
loophole
that
will
now
allow
more
kids
from
the
city
of
austin
to
participate
and
potentially
get
into
these
academy
classes.
G
And
I'll,
because
I
want
to
redirect
just
just
a
bit
if,
if
our
goal
is
to
get
more
city
kids
into
the
bpd,
then
then
this
proposal
is
the
superior
one.
And
the
reason
for
that
is
there.
There
can
be
no
mattress
addresses
if
there's
a
requirement
that
you
graduated
from
the
boston
police
or
from
the
boston,
public
schools
or
medco
in
order
to
gain
this
preference.
So
that
eliminates
that
entirely.
G
If
you
have
an
18
year
old
kid
from
a
low-income
family
who
loses
their
housing
upon
graduation
from
high
school,
maybe
can't
continue
to
live
with
with
their
parents
or
has
housing
through
some
other
means.
They
may
be
forced
to
leave
the
city
and
go
to
a
an
income
that
is
or
a
location
that
is
more.
You
know
that
they
can
afford
and
that
would
thereby
forfeit
their
residency.
I
I
They
took
the
test,
they
waited
for
the
test
to
be
graded.
They
waited
for
civil
service
to
certify
the
test,
and
then
they
got
the
postcard
with
an
offer
of
employment,
and
then
they
decided
to
move
in
to
boston,
because
there's
now
a
ten-year
residency
requirement,
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
with
wealth.
It
has
all
to
do
with.
If
you
have
access
to
someone
that
has
an
address,
it's
called
a
mattress
address
for
a
reason:
it's
a
loophole.
I
I
Same
if
you're
asking
someone
to
do
it
for
three
years,
that's
a
big
commitment
in
someone's
life.
Oh
gee,
I
can
just
suck
up
a
year,
put
down
my
cousin's
address
and
pick
a
neighborhood
and
kind
of
write
out
the
application
process,
and
if
I
get
the
postcard
great
I'll
move
in,
if
I
don't
get
the
postcard,
then
I'll
stay
in
pick
a
neighborhood,
arlington,
belmont,
newton,
weyland,
malden,
medford,
plymouth,
etc.
That's
what
happens
yeah,
so
the
men
and
women
that
you
work.
I
can
I
work
with
them.
I
I
The
solution
here
is
the
home
rule.
You
have
in
front
of
us
as
well
intentions
that
it
is.
It
only
allows
for
one
year
if
we
amend
it
to
three
years.
We
solve
both.
We
eliminate
the
mattress
address
loophole
and
then
we
obviously
allow
kids
that
went
to
boston,
public
schools
and
and
other
others
to
get
preference,
which
is
obviously
the
goal
here.
We
want
a
department
that
is
reflective
of
the
face
and
the
languages
that
are
spoken
in
boston.
I
get
it.
I
support
it,
but
the
problem
is:
is
the
mattress
address?
I
Loophole
still
exists
until
we
kill
it,
and
we
do
that
by
amending
this
home
repetition
to
move
from
one
year
to
three
years
so
that
it
joins
the
one
that's
currently
up
in
beacon
hill.
Does
it
solve
the
problem?
No
but
it
eliminates
incentivizes
the
mattress
address,
loophole
phenomenon
that
exists
on
your
department,
and
I
can
point
to
people.
I
know
personally,
that
did
not
grow
up
in
boston.
Did
not
go
to
school
in
boston
did
not
play
youth
sports
in
boston.
I
G
If
I
could
just
aspire's
graduation
from
boston
public
schools,
two
points
one
by
providing
this
preference,
you
are
mitigating
the
harm,
that's
caused
by
the
mattress
address,
because
you're
now
giving
graduates
of
bps
preference
over
those
individuals
who
may
use
a
mattress
address-
and
I
think
everyone
agrees
that
that
is
a
problem.
I
think,
but
it's
a
separate
problem
eliminating
entirely.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
through
a
separate
mechanism.
G
You
know
that's
an
issue
that
we
considered
and
we
talked
about
extensively
in
reviewing
this
and
what
we
decided
was
to
include
metco,
because
we
don't
want
to
pub.
We
don't
want
to
punish
city
residents
and
particularly
low-income
residents,
who
are
given
the
opportunity
to
attend
school
through
medco
in
a
suburban
location.
Those
individuals
should
be
given
the
same
opportunities
as
bps
graduates
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
demographics
of
medco
reflect
those
of
bps
in
that
they
have
a
high
proportion
of
black
and
brown
students.
G
Similarly,
we
didn't
want
to
punish
individuals
who
opt
to
attend
a
magnet
school
which
similarly
have
demographics
equivalent
to
bps,
based
upon
my
experience
going
to
those
schools
and
speaking
to
them
about
becoming
a
minority
attorney,
and
you
know
the
the
last
point
I
want
to
make
in
response
to
counselor
flaherty.
Is
that
the
this?
There
is?
No.
I
think
that
this
eliminates
the
mattress
address
issue
in
the
in
the
context
of
no
one,
unless
he
has
a
separate
experience
it
it's.
G
I
A
Right
but
counselor
flaherty,
because
there's
still
two
other
counselors
who
have
questions
and
I've
we've
heard
the
suggestion
to
the
administration,
which
is
just
combine
the
two.
So
that's
on
the
floor
for
the
administration
to
answer.
If
they're
going
to
do
that
or
not
or
if,
if
we're
going
to
amend
it
ourselves,
council,
clarity.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
man,
I'm
true.
I
appreciate
that
because
it's
not
just
about
high
school
students,
you
can
get
on
the
job
up
to
age
40.,
so
this
is
for
people
in
their
30s
and
in
late
20s,
early
30s,
so
not
just
about
the
high
school
kid
it's
about
the
person
that
can
slap
down
a
mattress
address
that
has
to
stop
and
it's
a
big
problem.
So
as
many
tools
in
the
tool
share,
we
can
use
and
that's
one
of
them
so
we're
not
saying
different
things.
We
want
the
same
thing.
I
I
J
So
I
I
it
would
be
helpful
to
me.
I
think
the
goal-
and
I
and
I
said
this
earlier
in
my
comments
beforehand
in
terms
of
really
who
it
is,
that
we're
trying
to
engage
right.
So
I'm
seeing
this
as
an
opportunity
to
right
the
wrong
as
an
opportunity
to
engage
more
black
and
brown
and
low-income
students
in
these
opportunities
right.
J
It
just
continues
to
remind
me
of
how
racially
segregated
the
city
of
boston
is.
So
I
feel
like
this
same
conversation
that
we're
having
about
the
police,
department
and
recruitment
is
the
same
conversation
that
I
felt
like
I
was
having
about
the
exam
schools
in
the
boston,
public
schools
and
I
feel
like
every
single
twist
and
turn
it
brings
us.
J
I
think
that
it
needs
to
be
more
than
three
years
and
it
needs
to
be
explicit
about
boston,
public
school
students
and-
and
I
and
I,
and
I
agree
with
whoever
said
I
think
it
was
eddie
you
mentioned
earlier,
like
three
years-
is
not
enough
for
you
to
know
what
it's
like
to
be
a
bostonian
right.
I
think
that
lived
experience
matters
and
I
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
go
beyond
three
years.
J
J
I
just
want
us
to
move
beyond
this
conversation
and,
let's
just
get
to
the
work
at
hand,
which
is
diversifying
our
police
force
so
that
it
could
be
more
reflective
of
the
people
who
are
living
the
realities
right
and
doing
everything
that
we
can
to
remove
those
barriers
so
that
we
have
the
representation
that
we
all
have
been
yearning
for
for
the
last
50
000
years.
Right.
Let's
just
move
on
it's
like,
I
don't
even
understand
why
we
were
having
this
conversation.
To
be
honest
with
you.
This
should
have
already
been
done
years
ago.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councillor,
mejia
really
helping
to
reset.
I
think
the
tone
and
the
focus
which
again
to
remind
all
of
us,
we
do
all
want
the
same
thing
here.
We
do
want
a
more
diverse
police
department,
reflective
of
the
city
of
boston
and
the
the
real
question
is
just
how
we're
going
to
get
there.
So
I
have
several
questions
for
the
administration.
A
A
A
A
K
A
I'm
not
I'm
not,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
that's
accurate.
I
I
don't
think
that
that's
accurate
and
you
had
a
consent
decree
you
you
were
mandated.
You
were
performing
according
to
said,
consent
decree.
It
ended.
Why
on
earth
not
extend,
I
mean
we
can't
speak
to
why
they
didn't
extend
it
or
continue
on
with
the
program,
but
also
why.
Why
has
what
I'm
hearing
and
thing
is?
I
don't
think
anyone
even
thought
about
it
to
look
at
the
consent
decree
and
bring
it
back.
A
A
I
think
it
should
be,
and
I
think
you
should
consider
that
you
have
something
that
is
not
dependent
on
a
state
house
or
vote
that
the
city
of
boston
had
to
comply
with.
I
mean
there
could
be
a
perfectly
legal
response,
saying
we
don't
want
to,
or
we
don't
think
it
would
pass
today's
constitutional
buster
under
the
now
right
right
center
right,
laning
court
system.
A
I
don't
know
what
the
hell
it
is,
but
I'm
disappointed
that
that
you
have
a
system
that
worked
that
no
one
looked
at
that
doesn't
require
all
this
political
back
and
forth.
So
that's
one
thing
for
me
to
support
that.
You
looked
at
everything
and
truly
did
due
diligence
as
to
the
best
way
to
diversify
this
police
force
that
that
you
look
at
that
and
pull
from
that
and
see
how
this
could
be
implemented
today
there
should
have
been
a
response.
We
looked
at
it.
We
decided
x,
y
and
z,
couldn't
pass
constitutional
monster.
K
A
G
A
Think
you
and
I
are
having
two
different
conversations:
no
one,
except
for
right
now.
Pontificating
on
this
zoom
call
right
now
looked
at
it.
That's
what
I
heard.
No
one
looked
at
whether
it
could
be
brought
in
so
anything
coming
now
from
the
task
force
of
administration,
or
anything
else
is
speculating
about
whether
this
or
couldn't
happen.
So
here's
it
is,
it
is
speculation
and
I
could
very
well
be.
A
There
could
be
very
well
perfectly
fine
answer
as
to
why
we
can
or
cannot
why
we
can
modify.
Will
we
like?
Well,
we
could
extend.
Are
there
examples
of
cities
out
there
saying
this
is
working
for
us
we're
going
to
continue
on
with
this
program
or
we're
going
to
bring
it
back?
None
of
that
research
was
done
or.
G
H
If
I
can
just
speak
briefly,
I
think
the
issue
of
consent
decree
has
been
discussed
at
bam
leo.
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
it
came
to
an
end
was
that
the
numbers
were
comparable
to
what
the
court
had
requested.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
manlio
has
been
pushing
this
issue
of
diversity,
probably
for
over
20
years.
Everybody,
not
everybody
who
is
here
currently
knows
about
the
battles
that
manly
us
fought,
but.
H
Have
been
very
public
and
anybody
had
the
opportunity
anybody
here
could
have
presented
the
likely
of
a
consent.
Decree
we've
had
lengthy
discussions
at
mainly
as
to
how
we
continue
to
diversify
and
push
our
agenda.
Many
of
those
conversations
have
been
attempted
on
the
part
of
manlio
to
some
of
the
members
of
this
same
council.
Here,
I
think
everybody
has
had
an
opportunity.
H
This
is
an
opportunity
that
we
could
have
taken
to
discuss
the
consent
decree,
but
this
was
not
an
opportunity
simply
reliant
that
the
members
of
the
task
force
had
to
do
anybody
here
could
have
done
it.
The
fact
that
it's
been
presented
today,
it
may
be
something
that
we
have
to
look
at
going
forward.
H
I
think
there
are
plenty
of
young
black
and
brown
kids
who
go
to
mexico
schools
who
go
to
some
of
the
private
schools,
but
also
making
a
contribution
for
me.
My
thought
process
when
I
proposed
this
idea
of
creating
a
preference
for
bps
students
was
that
I
know
the
make
up
the
bpas
students
I
know
where
they
live.
I
know
what
their
perspective
is.
I
know
what
they
walk
has
been,
and
I
know
what
they
would
bring
to
this
job.
So
for
me,
it's
really
about
well.
H
Do
we
want
to
exclude
other
people
who
are
not
necessarily
bps
students,
but
who
also
could
make
meaningful
contributions,
and
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
can,
the
city
council
is
free
to
craft
language.
That
does
all
those
things
without
substantially
excluding
some
of
these
same
kids,
who
grew
up
in
the
city
who,
by
by
luck
happenstance
by
virtue
of
some
kind
of
connection,
happens
to
get
the
opportunity
to
go
to
private
school.
I
know
I
had
the
op
that
opportunity.
A
Let's
be
honest
about
the
benefits,
the
networks
and
the
advantages
that
they
will
get
by
going
to
that
school
anyway,
so
that
this
is
not
an
exclusion
of
them,
they
could
easily
become
a
boston
police
department,
a
police
officer
as
well.
They
could,
they
still
have
an
avenue
to
it
and
whether
it's
they
can
the
many
ways
in
which
you
can
get
into
the
school.
So
so
again,
so
I'm
on
the
private
parochial
schools
entities
that
are
included
in
this
preference
that
do
not
have
the
diversity
of
bps
my.
F
And
one
quick
point
to
that,
I
do
think
it's
worth
mentioning
that
the
task
force
was
actually
when
they
released
their
initial
recommendations.
It
was
more
aligned
with
the
feedback
that
the
council
was
giving
and
after
several
listening
sessions
where
there
were
multiple
members
of
the
community
that
gave
feedback
and
gave
pushback
to
the
specific
language
about
the
specific
recommendation
that
was
amended
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
inclusive.
But
that
was
that
was
you
know
there
was
a
bunch
of
back
and
forth
about.
A
F
H
A
The
detective
union,
my
biggest
concern,
is
right.
Now
we
are
dealing
with
a
back
and
forth,
that's
pretty
with
a
lot
of
tension
at
the
state
house,
specifically
around
police
reform,
just
having
passed
the
house
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
We're
waiting
for
the
governor
to
sign
it
and
I'm,
I
feel
like
there
are
a
lot
of
officers,
a
lot
of
unions
who
have
their
kind
of
backs
up
feeling
because
they
publicly
come
out
in
opposition
to
this
to
the
reform
at
the
state
house.
So
now
we're
going
to
introduce
something
else.
A
Another
reform,
another
change
at
the
state
house
in
this
particular
moment,
with
a
lot
of
tension.
So
I'm
wondering
where
the
support
is
for
the
boston,
patrolmen's
association,
the
detectives
association
or
are
we?
Are
you
literally
launching
this
without
their
support?
Knowing
that
the
state
house
waiting
to
oppose
this.
H
You
want
me
to
speak
today.
Yes,
so
I've
had
I've
had
extensive
conversations
with
the
president
of
the
bppa
and
conversations
with
the
detectives.
United
detectives
union
does
not
necessarily
stand
against
this
they're,
not
they've
they've
not
necessarily
said
that
they're
going
to
support
it,
but
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day
for
me,
we
cannot
solely
rely
on
the
support
of
the
bppa
and
other
police
unions
to
do
some
of
this
work
that
we're
doing
so.
I
get
I
I
get.
H
I
I
get
what
you
where
you're
going
as
far
as
what's
their
support
of
this,
I
think
there
are
some
who
are
in
support,
but
as
all
things,
the
groups
that
are
against
it
are
probably
going
to
be
the
most
vocal.
I
think,
given
the
fact
that
a
substantial
number
of
the
bppa
members
of
black
and
brown
people
there
is
substantial
support
for
this
bill.
So,
of
course
there
are
going
to
be
those
members
who
stand
against
it.
H
H
A
Thank
you
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
three
years.
I
actually
think
that
javier
had
a
good
point
on
the
specific
residence
requirements
for
three
years
and
how,
if
the
look
back
is
today's
three
years
that
there
is
going
to
be
an
economic
divide
unless,
unless
those
boston
residents
are
specifically
recruited,
say
from
deed,
restricted,
housing,
public
housing
and
other
places
in
boston
where
there
are
higher
incidences
or
higher
incidents.
Excuse
me
higher
rates
of
people
of
color,
but
also
have
the
protection
of
certain
forms
of
rent
control
and
certain
forms
of
rent
stabilization.
A
So
we
there
is
that
there
is
a
kind
of
coming
to
heads
of
the
issue
of
the
residency
require
the
longer
you
make
it
based
off
of
today's
times
and
today's
rents
the
likelihood
that
we
are
going
to
be
grabbing
and
people
of
a
gentrification
class
versus
long-term
boston
residents,
who
we
know
many
of
whom
are
leaving.
I
can
tell
you
right
now,
leaving
charlestown's
housing
development
to
go
to
brockton,
because
they're
getting
section
8
vouchers
and
their
vouchers
go
further.
A
There
there's
a
lot
of
displacement,
that's
happening
in
the
city
of
boston
of
people
of
color
and
so
to
think
that
they,
you
know
so,
there's
a
there's,
a
tension
with
that.
I
I
understand
that
people
have
taken
this
one
year.
Also
is
not
helpful
in
that,
and
I
don't
know
that
this
particular
high
school
graduation
is
going
to
counter
the
amount
of
injury
and
round
of
loopholes
that
that
one
year
provides.
A
So
is
there
a
way
to
craft
the
language,
regardless
of
the
year
to
have
the
years
limited
to
either?
Is
there
a
way
to
have
a
residency
requirement
based
off
of
three
years?
Consensus
consecutively
lived
in
boston
at
any
point
in
their
life
or
if
you
could
say
that
they've
been
here
for
10
years
at
any
point
in
their
life,
is
there?
Is
there
a
way
to
craft
the
residency
requirement
in
a
way
that
doesn't
favor
folks
who
are
able
to
afford
today's
rents
right?
Does
it
hurt
folks
who
had
to
leave?
Is
there?
A
So
that's
that's
literally
my
my
my
intellectual
headache.
How
do
you
craft
this
so
that
you
are
not
hurting
people
today?
Who
don't
have
the
money
people
are
leaving
because
they
don't
have
the
money
to
stay
here?
They
cannot
afford
to
stay
here.
So
how
do
how
do
we
craft
that
and
does
anyone?
Do
you
guys
understand
my
my
headache
around
this.
H
We
do
I
do.
I
know
we
had
some
of
those
same
discussions
and
in
the
process
of
discussing
how
we're
going
to
craft
a
language
around
this.
So
to
the
extent
that
I
know
I'm
not
an
expert
legislator,
I
think
that's
something
that
we
all
could
sit
down
and
figure
out
how
best
to
craft
it.
We
had
those
same
just
that
very
same
discussion
around
residency
if
somebody
just
moves
into
the
city
and
they
graduate
a
year
later,
we
had
all
discussions.
H
We
were
at
this
for
a
long
time.
The
we
had
lengthy
discussions
around
this
very
same
issue,
so
I'm
open
to
the
extent
that
anybody
here
has
an
idea
that
addresses
all
those
concerns
we
have
as
it
relates
to
the
three-year
residency
up
to
the
bps
preference.
For
me,
I
think
my
end
goal
is
always
this
idea
of
diversifying
the
police
department,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
do
that,
we
can
all
be
part
of
conversation,
I'm
open
to
it.
H
G
G
There's.
Also
the
administrative
burden
that
this
places
upon,
making
that
determination,
ensuring
that
someone
meets
those
qualifications,
as
well
as
the
burden
that
it
places
upon
the
applicant
and,
in
the
end,
we
felt
that
being
a
resident
of
boston.
At
the
time
that
you
graduate
from
you
know
a
boston,
public,
school,
medco,
parochial
school,
etc.
Was
the
the
best
compromise
to
achieve
our
objectives
and
with
consideration
of
all
those
issues.
A
Do
you
think,
do
you
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
the
that
that
graduate
of
one
of
those
schools
as
a
kind
of
done
and
then
or
three
years
consecutive
living,
so
that
you're
you're?
Not
so
it's
an
and
it's
not
an
and
these
two
things
it's
more
of
an
or
so
you
have
to
prove
that
you
graduated
from
boston
high
school,
to
hit
the
residency
to
hit
this,
to
hit
whatever
to
prove
that
you
have
have
roots
that
you
have
been
here
and
that
you
are
likely
you
it
would
also
hit.
A
I
think
the
recruitment
pools
that
we're
trying
to
do
or
three
to
five
years.
I
think
it's
three
years
now
pending
and
I
also
say
this
kind
of
with
the
irony
that
you
know
the
mayor
did
support
this
and
signed
it
and
it's
pending
right.
So
he
has
signed
legislation
with
three
years
on
it.
Then
you
come
back
with
another
form
of
legislation
with
one
year
on
it,
like
the
mayor's
kind
of
gotta,
not
speak
out
of
both
sides
of
you
can't
do
it
both
way.
H
If
I
could
again,
I
I
think
both
these
suggestions
have
the
same
effect.
So
for
me,
the
idea
of
having
somebody
not
just
live
in
a
city
for
a
year
become
a
police
officer
is
good
because
three
years
it
doesn't
make
you
an
expert,
it
puts
you
in
a
better
place
than
you
would
have
been
for
a
year.
I
think
the
bps
preference,
I
think
for
me,
is
an
ideal.
H
F
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
that's
it
for
me!
I
don't
know
if
any
of
my
colleagues
have
another
round.
Specifically,
I
kind
of
just
would
prefer
you
raise
your
blue
hands
and
then
otherwise
I'll
just
call
on
you
for
concluding
remarks.
So
I
see
counselor,
oh,
oh,
all
of
them
have
raised
their
hands,
never
mind
we'll
just
go
back
in
order,
raise
their
hands
all
right,
so
just
go
back
in
order,
then
so
counselor
braden.
Thank
you.
B
I've
been
googling
the
consent
degree.
It
said
that
the
consent
degree
faced
several
legal
challenges
and
in
20
2004
after
several
white
can
white
candidates
sued
the
department
for
discrimination.
Judge
patty
cyrus
found
that
the
department
had
achieved
racial
parity
and
ruled
the
provision
that
mandated
at
hiring
one
minority
candidate
for
every
white
recruit
as
unconstitutional.
B
Given
that
they've
achieved
parity,
but
it's
it's
a
pity
that
they
didn't
write
in
some
sort
of
a
requirement
that,
if,
if
it
started
to
slide
that
we
could
continue
to
redress
the
problem,
but
it
just
was
gone
back
down
to
to
I
I
I'm
curious.
I
I
think
the
boston
public
schools,
career
paths
like
the
legal
and
protective
service
studies
is,
is
a
really.
B
You
know
when
you're
judging
high
school
candidates,
thinking
about
their
field
of
study,
if
they
have
committed
to
doing
a
field
of
study
in
legal
and
protective
studies,
and
maybe
have
language
skills
that
those
sort
of
boston,
public
high
school
students
are
schools
from
a
pr
students
from
a
private
school,
private
or
parochial
school
that
they
would
definitely
be
more
prime
candidates
for
entry
into
the
police
department.
You
know
some
some
other
criteria
that
would
add
to
your
selection.
B
You
know,
just
as
you
would,
if
you're
a
pre-nursing
core
track
or
a
you
know,
so
that
that
that
that
the
career
in
the
police
force
becomes
a
an
obvious
and
desirable
track
within
the
boston
public
schools,
and
that
you
know
that's
where
they
would
differentiate
themselves
from
parochial
schools
and
metco,
because
those
other
schools
will
necessarily
have
have
a
career
path.
That's
that
would
follow
into
legal
and
protective
studies,
so
protective
services.
So
it's
just
a
thought.
Thank
you
for,
and
this
is
a
very
good
discussion.
A
C
Thank
you,
council
edwards,
informative
discussion.
It's
been
helpful
in
my
district
in
the
heart
of
my
district.
Is
cathedral
high
school.
It's
an
excellent
school.
It's
mostly
students.
It's
a
it's
a
private
school,
it's
mostly
students
from
the
south
end
in
roxbury,
and
most
of
the
students
are
communities
of
color.
C
I
have
a
good
relationship
with
them.
Their
parents
don't
make
all
that
much
money,
but
what
the
parents
do
is
they
just
work
as
hard
as
they
can
to
pay
the
bill
pay
the
tuition
bill?
Most
of
the
students
are
on
financial
aid,
but
I
would
not
want
to
see
a
student
such
as
the
cathedral.
High
school
students
be
excluded.
C
C
So
I
want
to
just
stress
that
that
there's
a
lot
of
parents
that
have
children
in
the
private
schools
that
live,
live
in
poverty
as
well,
especially
in
communities
of
color
in
my
district,
which
extends
from
south
south
end
into
chinatown
a
lot
of
water
public
housing.
But
I
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
a
critical
part
of
the
discussion
to
include
private
schools.
There's
a
there's
several
others,
there's
christo
ray
over
in
dorchester,
it's
a
private
school
in
savant
hill.
C
C
You
know
it's
important
that
we
try
our
best
to
include
everybody
and
to
not
exclude
anybody,
but
I
I
would
not
want
to
see
my
constituents
or
boston
constituents
residents
excluded
because
they
went
to
a
private
school
based
on
the
fact
that
their
parents
thought
it
was
the
best
opportunity
for
them,
even
though
they're
make
very
very
little
money.
So
that's
that's
my
final
comment
but
again
thank
you,
council,
edwards
and
looking
forward
to
a
follow-up
on
this
important
discussion.
A
C
Yeah,
that's
some!
That's
that's
right!
Counselor
edwards!
I
I
I
know
from
expert
from
talking
to
people
a
lot
of
parents
that
do
send
their
kids
to
private
schools
such
as
the
cathedral
cathedral.
There
they
don't
have
any
money
in
most
of
the
students
there
are
on
financial
aid
and
they
just
the
the
school
itself,
tries
to
get
money
from
the
business
community
from
whoever
they
can
to
pay
the
bills
and
the
parents
pay
little
money,
even
though
it's
a
private
school.
A
I
You,
madam
chair,
obviously
thank
you
for
your
support
of
the
current
home
rule
petition
up
at
up
at
beacon
hill
with
a
three-year,
and
if
there's
a
way,
we
can
combine
the
two.
I
think
we're
saying
we're
we're
all
saying
the
same
things.
We
want
more
opportunity
for
city
kids
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
enhance
the
ranks
of
the
department
that
have
a
department
that
reflects
the
the
faces
and
the
languages
that
are
spoken
here
so
totally
get
it
and
want
to
be
supportive
of
that.
I
You
know
young
men
at
over
at
150
morrissey
boulevard
in
dorchester,
but
they've
gone
to
great
lanes,
and
there
are
a
number
of
students
very,
very
similarly
situated
like
cathedral
and
crystal
ray
that
are
worthy
and
want,
and
obviously
need
opportunities
like
these.
So
hopefully,
that
into
council
braden's
point
I
mean
sometimes
less
is
better.
With
this
type
of
legislation,
it
goes
up
to
beacon
hill.
If
it's
amenable,
then
they'll
just
take
their
hacks
at
it.
I
But
more
importantly,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we're
doing
here,
that's
in
the
best
into
the
city
is
not
right
for
challenge
and
because
this
is
a
highly
competitive
situation,
a
seat
in
the
academy
at
the
boston
police
department,
highly
sought
after
and
folks
will
go
to
great
lengths
to
sort
of
protect.
You
know
their
their
rights
and
their
access
to
to
that
opportunity.
So
I
think
sometimes
less
is
better.
I
The
more
we
put
in
indoor
the
more
that
it
broadens
the
the
the
wider
and
the
more
susceptible
it
is
to
a
legal
challenge,
and-
and
I
think
that
that
needs
to
to
be
taken
into
consideration
here,
because
we
want
what's
best
for
the
residents
of
our
city.
We
want
to
sort
of
accomplish
our
goals,
but
I
think
if
we
push
in
one
particular
direction
or
another
particular
direction,
or
if
we
continue
to
add
stuff,
then
not
only
does
you
know,
I
guess
it
gets
tweaked
up
at
beacon
hill
anyways.
I
But
you
know,
particularly
if
it
goes
up
as
an
amendable
document,
and
then
we
lose
sort
of
control
over
it
as
the
municipality.
But
nonetheless
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
put
forth,
it's
it's
tight
and
not.
It
doesn't
have
its
nose,
sticking
out
there
and
be
ripe
for
challenge
and
just.
I
But
I
just
want
to
see
if
anyone
has
the
latest
civil
service
list,
particularly
the
breakdown
from
the
last
recruiting
classes,
in
terms
of
how
many
disabled
veterans,
how
many
veterans,
how
many
sort
of
widows
or
sons
and
daughters
killed
in
the
line
of
duty
you
know
and
then
obviously
then
residents
that
don't
have
those
preferences.
I'd
like
to
kind
of
get
a
sense
as
to
the
breakdown.
I
I
think
the
last
couple
of
classes
that
were
put
on,
I
think
they've
been
close
to
100,
recruits
100
candidates,
but
I'd
like
to
get
a
sense
of
a
breakdown
to
to
see
because
that
breakdown's
going
to
continue,
if
not
it
may
even
exacerbate.
And
the
chair
recognized
that
given
kovid
and
the
economy
now
going
to
be
lagging
and
oftentimes.
Those
are
situations
where
people
either
lose
their
job
or
get
laid
off.
I
And
then
they
tend
to
turn
towards
you
know
their
local
municipality
and
or
civil
service
position,
and
in
those
instances
we
do
see
an
uptick
when
the
economy
dips
down.
We
do
see
an
uptick
in
in
applications
for
for
police
officer
firefighter
in
the
city,
and
that
has
been
the
case
over
the
years.
I
With
non-civil
service
preference,
because,
ultimately
that's
what
we're
looking
to
do,
we're
looking
to
find
a
way
to
connect
that
sort
of
non.
I
guess
the
the
non-civil
service
preference
individual
to
an
opportunity
on
the
police
department
and
we're
basically
creating
a
new
preference
for
them
to
be
able
to
compete,
and
I'd
really
like
to
see
the
breakdown
just
to
see
exactly
how
many
slots
we're
potentially
talking
about
that
that
this
preference,
that's
in
front
of
us,
this
home
rule,
would
would
allow
you
know
young
men
and
women
in
boston
to
compete.
I
J
J
I
think
that
the
city
of
boston
is
being
presented
with
an
amazing
opportunity
to
really
rethink
and
reimagine
how
we
include
and
how
to
how
do
we
recruit
and
engage
and
create
a
real
pipeline
that
reflects
the
diversity
of
the
city
of
boston
and
councilor.
Edwards
said
something
that
really
struck
with
me
earlier
about
the
fact
that
the
changing
demographics
here
in
the
city
of
boston
are
changing
fast
and
furious.
J
If
that's
the
goal,
the
goal
is
to
be
more
equitable
for
low-income
people
of
color.
To
have
an
opportunity
to
get
to
this
point,
then
I
think
that
that
feels
right
in
terms
of
getting
to
that
space,
and
then
I
do
agree
with
president
council
jamie
his
earlier
question
in
terms
of
the
data
in
terms
of
who
have
who
worked,
who
has
taken
advantage
of
of
this
in
prior
years,
because
that
will
be
really
telling.
J
I
think
that
that
data
is
in
for
is
important
information
to
have,
and
then
you
know
the
the
last
piece
I
know
I
talked
about
we've
been
to
having
this
conversation
for
50
000
years.
I
I
know
that
sounds
a
little
bit
sassy,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
we
can't
keep
having
the
same
conversation
and
expecting
different
results
right
like
if
we're
really
serious
about
changing
how
we
do
business
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
J
J
J
So
I
think
that
that
really
shows
the
experience
of
living
in
the
city
of
boston.
So
if
we're
gonna
go,
we
might
as
well
go
as
hard
as
we
can
and
be
as
bold
as
we
can,
and
why
should
we
just
settle
for
whatever
little
crumbs?
We
get
we're
tired
of
that
and
I
don't
have
any
questions.
I
just
have
lots
of
comments
and
I'm
gonna
shut
up
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
council
mejia,
but
for
those
of
us
who
did
not
grow
up
in
boston
and
did
not
go
to
boston
public
schools,
their
our
entire
lives,
those
of
us
like
me,
I
still
feel
I
serve
my
community.
I'm
boston
by
choice,
maybe
not
boston
by
birth,
and
so
I
do.
I
do
appreciate
everyone's
comments,
but
speaking,
I
think
on
behalf
of
majority
of
now
bostonians,
who
did
not
grow
up
here
and
the
majority
of
the
folks
that
we
serve.
A
Actually,
this
is
boston
right,
and
so
I
do
think
that
there's
there's
a
balance
balance
that
we
need
to
strike
about
what
it
means
to
know
to
serve
and
to
love
a
community,
and
I
think
the
three
years
helps
to
strike
that
balance
because
well
not
not.
All
of
us
were
privileged
enough
to
be
born
in
boston.
Okay,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
put
that
out
there.
A
It's
not
a
not
a
knock
or
anything
like
that,
but
just
just
as
we
talk
about
you
know
what
it
means
to
serve
who
who
it
means
to
be
here
and
then,
let's,
let's
not
forget
about
them.
I
think
25
percent
of
bostonians
are
immigrants
in
any
way
and
didn't
grow
up
here
and
didn't
speak
english
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So,
let's
just
let's
just
remember
the
context
that
we're
talking
about
this
beautiful,
diverse
city.
A
So
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
I
do
think
that
there's
there
seems
to
be
some
some
violence,
striking
that
we
can
on
the
residency
also
because,
let's
be
clear,
the
mayor
supported
legislation
that
does
something
different.
So
that's
pending
right
now
three
years
is
pending
supported
by
the
mayor.
This
one
does
not
have
that,
so
I
I
would
think
even
just
to
be
consistent
with
what
he
signed
before.
A
We
might
want
to
do
that
now.
If
we're
going
to
do
something
and
then
I
I
don't
hear
agreement
actually
amongst
my
colleagues
about
private
versus
not
or
excluding
private
schools
versus
including
them,
there
is
a
there's,
a
split
and
just
for
my
sake,
and
it
makes
more
sense
than
to
be
bigger
than
to
be
narrower
in
what
we
include
in
the
language,
because
I
I
hear
outright,
people
will
not
support
this
if
it
does
exclude
private
schools,
and
so
I
leave
this
back
to
the
administration.
F
One
thing
that
I
made
I'm
sure
thank
you
so
much
also
for
all
of
the
time
that
you've
allotted
to
this
and
for
all
the
consideration-
and
it's
very
clear
from
just
this
conversation
between
the
council
themselves.
You
guys
are
also
feeling
the
tensions
that
the
task
force
felt
of
trying
to
strike
balance
between
all
of
these
competing
and
very
valid
interests
right.
F
I
think
that
we
are
definitely
not
walking
away
from
that
language
related
to
the
residency
that
the
mayor
had
previously
signed,
and
so
we're
more
than
happy
to
amend
that.
One
thing
I
want
to
make
very
clear,
though,
is
our
goal
would
be
to
get
this
passed
by
the
council
this
year
to
continue
to
move
with
this
expeditiously
and
to
be
able
to
refile
this
in
the
new
year
and
to
be
able
to
push
as
hard
as
possible
in
the
state
legislature.